Curmudgeon Critics: Thursday, October 26th, 2023

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.

I am in such a glorious mood.

Wow, to what do we owe the pleasure?

Well, so many things.

One, my move is

done.

So that stress is off my plate.

Two, I'm a naturally happy person.

So when I don't have something like so harrowing and stressful, I'm my gorgeous, glorious, delightful self.

But you said you wouldn't be able to be happy until this evening.

What sped up up your timetable?

Well, the home organizers with a good constitution, done and done, they are at my place doing all the unpacking and organizing.

So like, what's better than things like being taken care of?

I agree.

And I'm with my girl Jax and I'm just feeling good.

I'm so happy for this change of tune.

Really.

I also hate like when I come on an episode and I'm not able to like get past my own whatever shit.

Like sometimes that happens where you're just in a mood and it feels like I can't properly like

do my job.

And every single day, like I have a million things to do, but the one thing I always have to do is, you know, be myself on the toast.

And so when my personal angst starts to affect that, I get mad at myself.

And it starts to cloud, yeah.

Cloudia.

You were a cloudia yesterday.

But I came out of it and when I was done, I felt so much better.

First, you were a storm cloud, yeah.

All right, don't put me in another bad mood.

I'm doing my best.

What's a nice cloud?

You know, a nice puffy white cloud.

A summer's day.

You're a summer's day.

You're a summer's day.

Thanks.

So I vlogged the whole experience.

Right.

It is already on Patreon.

I was like, let me get the girlies what they need.

And the vlog takes a kind of a crazy turn at one point.

And I wanted to talk about this on the toast because the more I talk about it, the more I get people's experience and feedback and the better I feel.

So during the vlog, Theo was staying with Ben's parents because moving is just like stressful and there was like nowhere for Theo to hang out.

And Theo's been like acting a little weird.

He appears to have like a leg that's hurting him and we thought it would go away and then it didn't.

So Ben's mom was so generous and was like, well, I have him, I'll take him to the vet for you.

Like, oh my God, queen, because you know my ass was like never taking him.

And every time Theo goes to the vet, he gets like a checkup, of course, but because he's a King Charles Cavalier and they're, as a breed, predisposed to heart problems, they always do like an extra, you know, checkup on his heart.

And every every time we go, they say no heart murmur.

And we're like, great, great, great.

This time, of course,

busy season, we weren't even thinking about the heart.

He, at the age of six, has developed a heart murmur.

And this is something, I mean, I'm literally going to cry, but I'm really going to try not to.

This is something, you know, we grew up with a cavalier.

We know that this is a part of their life.

And that's why we're so crazy about keeping them fit and healthy.

So it's always been top of mind.

I knew this was something we were going to have to deal with at some point.

You know, my delusional dream, I thought it would be 30 years down the road.

It's a grade two out of five, which is moderate.

And what that means is that either it stays a two, he goes on meds, lives with it, not a big deal, or it's the beginning of like heart problems.

So I found out while I was in the movie, in the midst of vlogging and moving, and I didn't know if I should like include it in the vlog.

And I like recorded something and I felt so stupid, like being so upset and recording something, but I don't know, I was like alone and I didn't have anyone to talk to.

And I was like in the whole day, every 10 minutes updating the vlog about what was going on.

And like, this was what was going on.

So I wasn't sure if I was going going to include it and i ended up including it and i'm so glad that i did because so many people reached out to me who have cavaliers but who also just have dogs and was like oh my god we found out our dog had a heart murmur like same experience wanted to die and he's lived with it completely fine they told me stories of their dogs who lived to be 14.

and then i spoke to my friend shannon yesterday not ford but my friend shannon from la who is like a dog professional like she has probably a hundred dogs she's like a foster and she's like oh please i had a dog who showed up at my house 12 years old they told me he was going to live for another day and he lived lived four more years.

Like a heart murmur, you can live with.

So I feel actually really glad that I shared it because so many people shared their positive experiences.

But that was kind of a turning point in the vlog.

Yeah, I would say so.

And I think that's also contributed to your mood yesterday.

I know you weren't talking about it on the show yesterday, but you were.

you know, rightfully torn up about it.

But I know our boy is fierce.

Our boy is strong.

This dry sand, I'm looking at my CO pillow over there.

Wishing I had it here.

Wishing I had it here to give him a hug, you know?

Yeah.

I think that,

you know, they go on meds and then twice a year you take them to a cardiologist and it should be

okay unless he has some crazy.

And this is just like the beginning.

He goes a grade two, three, four, five.

Like, hopefully that's not the case.

I was prepared for news like this.

in my lifetime.

Like I knew that this was coming.

I just wasn't prepared for it to happen on like this crazy, busy day where I'm moving and he was going to the bed for something else.

Yeah.

Well, that's bad.

bad news waits for nobody.

We're with you.

And whatever you need, whatever Theo needs, he obviously gets his health insurance through the toast.

So we will provide whatever he needs.

Thank you for being like my employer has been really amazing throughout this whole situation.

That's really like all you can hope for.

No, it's true.

And like, let's talk about employers that are not

like gracious and flexible when something like actually happens to a person.

Not enough people talk about that.

Like when you work in a corporate job, they have like weird rules, like family member death.

Oh, was it immediate family?

Oh, if not, you get X.

Like, it's so weird.

Like, people are people.

Do they have that?

I've never thought about it.

Yes, because someone I know just lost someone in their immediate family.

I'm like, well, what are you doing about work?

And she was telling me that they have like, you know, well, if it's immediate family, you get X.

If it's a grand, like, you get X.

But like, some people's grandparents are their mothers, you know?

Right.

So I just think that's like a weird thing.

Not enough people talk about like grief when it comes to like, of course, we're always talking about parental and maternal leave, which is so important so important we should still keep having those conversations but like what about grief grief leave grief leave

this doesn't sound right it doesn't well you need to come up with another word for it i guess it's like personal time no i think like maybe grievance leave it's just like grief leaf is weird i got it a leave of grievance A leave of grievance.

Yeah.

Like a leave of absence.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, that sounds really nice.

Yeah.

But grief is.

It's just been a crazy few days.

Grief is personal, you know?

That's true.

Some people like want to go back to work almost immediately and then six months time like have a breakdown because they didn't properly grieve.

So maybe they need that leave of grievance in six months.

Yeah.

But I understand like the corporation's trying to put together some sort of framework, you know?

But they could do better.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You just got to leave of grief.

They could do better in everything.

Everyone could do better, I think.

What could I do?

Aside from us.

Of course.

What could I do better, Jax?

Curbing my moods?

No, because because I think that's just the ebb and flow of life.

You're still human.

I still want you to be human.

No, because I like it.

You look absolutely gorgeous and radiant today.

Did you do something different with your foch?

What are you referring to?

No, I didn't.

Your skin is glowy.

You look almost maybe like you stepped into the sun for 30 seconds.

No, still homebound.

If anything, last week I was in the sun more because I was walking more.

This week I'm not walking so much because I twisted my ankle.

Can we tell if you're running?

Oh my my God, this is the funniest story.

Jackie twisted her ankle, which like I feel like adults don't do.

And especially, I don't think, I feel like sober people don't do.

Like the feeling that I have in my ankle right now, like I'm having flashbacks to college.

I feel like there was a, I took a couple of nasty spills like in high Jeffrey Campbell heels and like, my ankle was twisted for months.

It felt this way.

So tell everyone the story about this weekend when you twisted your ankle.

So this weekend, I twisted my ankle being a moron, and it's just like completely my fault.

And like, it's something that I look back, I'm like, oh my God, like, like I feel red in the face of how stupid I was we were Jackie it sounds like you need to

unburden yourself yeah but I feel like I did in my personal life but I guess on the show so we were having a family outing and we were parked somewhere and like we there was a really long way around to get onto the sidewalk I also didn't feel like that route was the safest because it was like there was cars and everything but we could just like cross over the grass to get to the sidewalk much quicker and other people cut through a cut through and other people were cutting through the grass because I thought well maybe it's like swampy No.

Or ticks.

Or ticks.

But other people were cutting through.

So I was like, let's just cut through.

And it was much like deeper than I anticipated.

And I twisted my ankle and it was so painful.

I couldn't even go on.

I had to walk back to the car and I sat in the car with Charlie the whole time and Zach and Harry.

While the family outing.

Yeah, well, Zach and Harry went on the outing.

We like waited in the car for an hour until they were done.

Like I literally couldn't move.

I'm so sorry about your ankle.

Nothing takes a girl out like a sprained ankle.

So I had an ace bandage, which really helped.

I'd been wearing that the last few days and my ankle was feeling better, but I slept on it badly last night.

And now this morning it's hurting again.

I don't actually understand the science behind an ace bandage.

Like, how does wrapping it up help?

Like compressing it so it can't, you know, fester and sort of fall apart.

I guess.

Like kind of like putting it back together, pushing it inward.

Yeah, because you got to wrap it real tight.

Real tight.

Like the swollenness, you got to push it in.

It really, honestly, the ace bandage really did help.

And I blame Stry sand for today's pain he took up the whole bed last night i like so my ankle was just like it went wherever it could yeah i understand but i still love you stry sand i love you love you stry sand no hurt feelings i do By the way, we have an amazing show today.

Yesterday, we did not do Dear Toasters, and we're still not doing it today because when we thought, all right, we have to do Dear Toasters, should we do Thursday or Friday?

Friday's episodes always feel like a little like lacking substance because nothing ever happens on a Friday.

So now we have Friday Dear Toasters, which is fabulous.

Yeah, and I guess we could do a little TV recap today because Real House Resident Beverly Hills was on.

I didn't finish it because Charlie needed a quiet, calm environment.

And like, I had to turn the TV off.

I didn't even want to, but I had to.

He needed a quiet woman.

Yeah.

And he needed Eagle Woman and you weren't there.

Yeah.

So we'll do Real House Resident Beverly Hills recap.

I watch it and I also watch Watch Robins Live, which I have, I mean, Real House Resident Beverly Hills was so boring.

I don't know what we could possibly recap, but Watch Robins Live was full of intrasante facts.

Okay, cool.

So we'll recap that.

We've got the fast five stories.

And I think without further ado, we should get into it because I know Turdy's got a busy day.

I've got a busy day.

I'm doing another podcast after this.

Whose?

It's called

What's Wrong With Me?

I literally know what it's called.

It's called What's Wrong With Me?

That's actually a good name for a podcast.

That is a good name for a podcast.

No, I don't know.

Honestly, maybe Jackie, don't say it now because it's not.

Oh, I know what it is.

Because why?

Because now it's like rude.

I didn't know.

Yeah, don't say it.

But I know what it is.

And I'm actually really excited.

I don't do podcasts, other podcasts that often.

I'm very like choosy because, you know, it's a lot to have an hour-long conversation with someone.

It could be so awkward.

But these girls seem great.

I'm excited to chat.

I am also doing some content after this.

Who remembers last year when I met Mark Schoenwetter, the love of my life,

who was a Holocaust survivor?

We did like a Hanukkah video series.

That's how we met.

We were paired up.

And because we connected so fiercely last year, we're doing it again this year.

I actually spoke to him last week.

We did a Zoom call.

And this year's is actually really funny because Mark has been cooking all week his like favorite Jewish Eastern European dishes.

And I'm going to have to try them.

Do you know what he's making?

I do know what he's making.

I don't want to spoil it.

I also don't remember like the entire menu list.

They asked me like to approve certain things.

Like there are certain things I will just won't eat.

Like a fuck Kreplach.

Like I'm not eating it.

I actually think you'll like some of it because, like, probably some of it's stuff that we grew up with.

Like, is he going to make a cabbage soup?

No, he's not going to make a cabbage soup.

He's making a few like of his cornerstone items.

I'm not going to spoil it, but that video will be up soon.

I just, any day I get to spend with Mark, a dream.

I told Turdy this, but for Shabbat this week, I'm making something I've never made before that I'm so excited.

I don't know why I'm like craving it.

No, listen, I don't even know if I've ever had it.

That's because I think it's gross.

I don't even know if I've ever had it.

Me neither in my life, but I saw a reel, a cooking reel of it, and what I'm making is beef stew.

Now, is it chullent?

Similar.

Chullant?

Like chulant?

Chili beef stew.

Chili, beef stew

are all very similar.

So it's like a

beef cooked in like a tomato soup sort of thing.

Oh, tomato.

Are you like mine?

So chulant is like a classic Jewish dish.

It's really like a beef stew.

It's really chunky.

This is like meat chunks and broth and potatoes.

Oh, that's literally chillant.

It's not chillant.

No, potatoes, carrots, beef in like a stew.

That's chulant.

It's a stew.

A beef stew.

Also known as chilent, the stew of our people.

Well, they were making chilant in

shettle.

Schettle.

Thank you.

I couldn't think of the word.

Well, I'm going to make a beef stew because I saw it on a reel.

So first I wanted to copy the reel recipe, but the creator doesn't have like a recipe website.

So I'd have to like keep reading the caption, which

I googled beef stew recipe, but I also wanted to put it to the people.

Anyone know of a great beef stew recipe?

Do you want me to check my J.

Cohen cookbook?

You can check it.

I trust him now.

Yeah, me too.

That I'm actually the first like real meal me and Ben are going to make, maybe not this Friday, because like we're still a little chaotic, maybe next Friday for Shabbat.

I want to make the brisket.

I really also want to make the brisket again.

And also why I want to make beef stew is like something hearty and warm like that will be really good for my milk supply.

Oh.

They were onto something in that shtet.

They were onto something because a few weeks ago, my friend Sam had a baby right around when I did.

And we were like comparing, you know, pumping amounts.

And she was like, oh my God, I got so much this morning.

I had beef stew last night.

I was like, yeah, like they say like warm food is really good, like liquidy food.

So

you got to make the brisket too.

I want to make the brisket.

Maybe I'll wait till you're back.

I'm going to say that I would love the brisket by myself.

And if you don't don't know what brisket we're talking about, you have to become a Patreon member.

There are two

back-to-back vlogs for Rosh Hashanah this year.

Olivia made a brisket, Jackie made a brisket.

Jackie and I like followed this recipe from a cookbook I had just got in PR from Jake Cohen, the TikToker.

And honestly, it was the craziest thing ever, but it ended up being the most insanely delicious, amazing thing.

So between the moving vlog, the brisket, it's never a bad time to become a Patreon member.

Patreon.com slash the toast.

Yeah, good stuff over there.

We've got two more episodes coming at you this month, and they are good ones, podcast episodes for the podcast listeners.

Yeah, we had a lot of vlogs this month.

My Jackie's children's book vlog for launch week.

Oh, by the way, we didn't even talk about how like we're stars

on Entertainment Tonight?

Yeah, so last week, last week was such a crazy week because Jackie was here for her book, and then everything was happening in Israel, and like we literally didn't know how to function.

That was two weeks ago.

You were in LA last week.

Oh my God.

So

Entertainment Tonight, we had scheduled for for them to come to interview us, do like a studio tour, talk about Jackie's book, just talk about the toast.

And it was so good.

It just came out on digital.

I think it airs this weekend.

If you go to Entertainment Tonight, you should be able to find it.

We talk about everything: the book, how we started the toast, our favorite guests, our Elise's favorite guests, Ozempic, of course.

I can't leave my house without talking about it.

And actually,

the first thing in my apartment was Ozempic.

The first thing before any of the books.

You got to get right in the fridge.

Right in the fridge.

Priorities.

Yeah.

Well, if that thing drops in temperature i'm screwed no the entertainment tonight segment was so good it was fun and there's just like kind of a lot of behind the scenes stuff about your girls that you might not know i feel like everyone knows everything about us but they found like a new fresh angle to keep it fresh 100

so check that out 100 certified fresh

what's that rotten tomatoes okay that's what i thought when something's good they call it certified fresh i don't really like to talk about rotten tomatoes or give them any sort of credence because i think the entire it's rare philosophy, the philosophy of their brand is broken and flawed.

No, they're a broken people.

I mean, that's never been more clear.

It's so rigged and fraudulent and they act as if they're the voice of the people and they're the voice of nobody.

They speak for nobody except for maybe like a couple curmudgeon critics.

Curmudgeon critics.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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um our first story a bit of podcasting rumor news oh my god is it about us everyone's always starting stuff about us no not today

Not today.

Not today.

Not today.

About a similar star.

Megan Markle is thrilled as she nears a multi-million dollar make-or-break deal for her podcast.

So Megan Markle is thrilled about being on the verge of landing her first major deal since parting ways with Spotify, according to a new report.

The Duchess of Sussex is...

How do they know she's thrilled?

Right.

I mean,

if you're signing a deal, any deal, I imagine you're...

It's thrilling.

It's fair to assume.

It's fair to assume.

But the Duchess is said to be inching closer towards signing on the dotted line for a multi-million dollar contract with Amazon's podcast production partner,

Audible.

Oh,

oh, Audible.

Because Amazon's podcast, like in-house podcast studio is Wondery.

Like they own Smartless.

Yeah, but Audible is Amazon.

Yeah, but that's audiobooks.

Maybe they're combining their audio department.

Maybe Wondery is under Audible.

Maybe, maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like that.

A source close told the

closer UK that the new venture has the power to make.

Oh, the most legit publication in all of UK.

New Venture has the power to make or break her Hollywood dream.

That's a little extreme.

Okay, this article is moronic, but what we are getting away, taking away is that her podcast is not over.

And that she's talking to Amazon.

Well, that's weird to me because

the narrative with the last podcast was that they didn't want to do it anymore.

And that's why the Spotify deal ended.

Was that the narrative?

Yeah, that like she didn't fulfill her duties.

That's what people were saying.

And so like they just ended it before all the episodes were contractually, all the episodes that she was obligated to do contractually, she hadn't even done them.

That's what they said.

Interesting.

So maybe

based on, based on what I know about the Spotify podcast, I would have assumed she wouldn't be doing a podcast anymore.

Right.

Same.

But I mean, maybe she liked it.

And maybe now she knows like how many episodes she wants to do.

Like maybe now that she has her feet wet, she's prepared to like make a deal that will work better for her.

I feel like that Spotify deal was very vague.

Now, I don't know anything, but it was just like a deal.

And they had their holiday episode, and then she started a podcast, but it wasn't like, you're going to start your Megan Markle podcast.

You're going to give us 50 episodes a year.

I think it was kind of just like, here you go.

Laissez-faire.

Here you go.

And then they were upset that they didn't produce as much as they had wanted.

But I mean, obviously, I didn't see the contract, but that's the vibe I got.

Because they let them

drag no content for years.

I have to imagine that the contract said X amount of episodes.

Like, that's just bad legal.

I could just see it being really vague.

vague like because it also like that first

show wasn't even part of archetypes so it wasn't like she had a contract to do archetypes

right you know what i mean they just had a contract to have megan and harry on spotify i mean i could truly like wax poetic for hours about like the spotify exclusive podcast business model that they did for a few years.

I feel like they're not doing it anymore.

They took a lot of shows completely exclusively, but recently they released some of those shows like armchair expert is now available on a bunch of platforms i believe emma chamberlains is too and spotify still like does the distribution and like ad sales like any random i mean any ordinary podcast network would do for a podcast but they're no longer exclusive to spotify call her daddy is and joe rogan is i'm sure there are others but those are the ones that come to mind but i don't know like their business model is like being shaken up now yeah

i think they're in a period of transition a period of flux.

I look forward to seeing how it all plays out.

Well, I'm moving, so I totally relate to being in like a period of transition.

And a period of flux

and flux and also just having my period.

Well, this is interesting.

When I saw the headline, it was like her make or break Hollywood dream deal.

I thought she might go back to acting.

Okay, yeah, like that's so dramatic.

Her make or break.

If there was like a make or break Hollywood dream deal, it would have been when she got on suits.

So that's over.

And second of all, like she's already like a-list permanently.

No, I know.

I would think a make-or-break Hollywood dream deal would be like a three-movie deal with Martin Scorsese.

Yeah.

Or I think what they're maybe going to end up doing, she goes the route of like Reese Witherspoon and does like, because they just did like a book club.

They're optioning Emily Henry's book, Happy Place, which I absolutely hated.

They're optioning it into a movie.

Yeah, right.

Meet Me at the Lake.

Oh, literally same thing.

Okay.

Same thing.

Meet Me at the Lake.

Yes.

I liked that book a little bit.

I didn't hate it.

So if she like started a production company and, you know, optioned 10 books, like that's a make or break Hollywood.

You become like race.

Right.

I just, I feel like podcasting is not for her.

And when I think about like what I would see her doing, it would be more like Joanna Gainesie, Oprah, like content.

Like, we want to see you, first of all.

It's true.

You're a gorgeous lady.

We want to see you.

And like you said.

And we want to see your house.

We want to see the house.

We want to see the vibes.

Yep.

Yep, yep, yep.

That's so true.

Podcasting.

It's for hiders.

It's for ugly girls.

No kidding.

I'm completely kidding.

I agree.

She's far too beautiful to be like hidden behind a microphone.

I agree.

And

it's also, and maybe this was her experience.

It sounds like such an easy job.

And I think people underestimate the amount of like labor that's required to put out like a good piece of content, even if you have help.

So maybe, and I think that happens to a lot of people.

You start a podcast and it's just like, it was supposed to be a side thing, but it's a lot of of fucking work.

And you have to like leverage your personal relationships to ask people to come on.

Like, maybe she didn't want to do that.

It's just, it's not as like dumb and simple as I think a lot of people think it is.

And so maybe that was her experience.

She was like, you know, this is like too much work.

I'm over it.

But she's going back to it.

Right.

So that's the surprising piece, if true.

Just keep in mind, this is not a person who needs to work like imminently.

They have a good amount of money.

They have a good amount of money.

They would be okay.

I think they will, they do like need to work a bit no, they need to sustain the lifestyle, sustain the lifestyle, but I also think that they want to be

top of mind, relevant, like in the press, spoken about.

That helps their other ventures, you know.

Yeah, you got to have something going on.

That goes for anyone, that goes for the business.

That's Hollywood, baby.

That's showbiz, baby.

That's showbiz.

Um,

so let's just hope and cross our fingers it's a vodcast.

Yeah,

so the Spotify one was not, even though Spotify likes a vodcast.

Everyone loves a vodcast.

Like we want to see, bitch.

Podcasting is the new thing.

Vodcasting greater than podcasting.

We've been doing it since day one.

That's the thing about us that nobody ever like gives us credit for.

The trailblazing effect of our business.

Yeah.

But we know.

And that's like all that matters.

Not.

Not.

Are you ready for our next story?

I honestly and truly am.

Some more memoir news this week.

We've got another memoir coming out next week.

I could give you a, let me think, I could give you a million guesses, and you won't guess who's writing who wrote their memoirs.

Really?

Yeah, he's just not someone you think about.

Actually, I guess I could give you some roundabout clues.

Maybe.

Because weirdly, when I think of this guy right now, like this is what I think of, sadly.

I know there are more obvious clues, but this is what I think of.

Father of Kim's friend.

Lionel Ritchie?

No, good guess.

Rick Hilton?

No, good guess.

Okay, I'm going to get

of Lifer.

Father of Lifer.

David Foster?

No.

Father of Lifer.

You might not know this fun fact.

Maybe not.

Henry Winkler.

I knew that.

And I have a story about Henry Winkler.

I don't know.

I feel like every time he comes up on the toast, I've said it.

He's only come up like once or twice.

I had a really interesting interaction with Henry Winkler on a flight.

What happened?

Maybe it'll be in his memoir.

No, literally, because it was, I think he was really taken by me.

He gets on the plane and the seat that I was New York to LA, the seat that I was sitting in was like the seat he needed because he was like with like his family or something.

And he was like, do you mind switching?

I actually ended up getting a better seat.

So I was happy to do it.

And when I heard it was for a celebrity, I was more than happy to oblige.

He was so grateful.

Like, you would have thought I gave him like the shirt off my back.

He was so grateful.

And like, the whole flight, every time he walked by me, he was like, oh, thank you.

Such a nice guy.

And we just kind of became best friends after that.

So I look forward to reading about it from his perspective in his new memoir called Being Henry: The Fawns and Beyond.

Yeah, he has like a huge legacy that I'm so unfamiliar with.

Yeah.

What is the font?

I have no idea.

To me, it's a show.

He's like the water boy.

Yeah.

But to other people, he's the font.

And I think being described as Kim's friend's dad.

Right, Zoe, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyways, he has his memoirs coming out.

Why do people call him?

Memoirs of a Fonzie.

Memoirs of the Fonzi, that would be a better name.

But why do, when someone's written their memoirs, why is it plural, even though it's a memoir?

It's a good question.

Maybe because it's like their memories in a book, but it makes no sense.

What do you think is the best titled

memoir besides Girl with No Job, The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thursman?

Memoirs of a Shry Sand.

No, but like for real.

I would need a list.

I know you, you, what?

Because I have an answer.

It was Rez Zafarahan from Shahs of Sunset, Memoirs of a Gay Shah.

Oh, yeah.

I don't think I've ever heard a better titled book.

No, I didn't even hear that.

Honestly, like, that's the kind of book where it's like you, you have the title first and then you write the book to suit the title.

A hundred percent.

Because I cannot hear the word memoir without thinking of that film, Memoirs of a Geisha, which I've literally never seen.

I don't even know what it's about.

You know, it's a book first, and I think it's an amazing book.

I haven't read it or seen the movie, and I think that's a book that we should read.

Maybe do it for the Redheads.

I'm sure someone of the four of us has read it, but it's historical fiction.

You know what I mean?

Like, I actually should that.

Yeah, like memoirs of a, I always am saying something like that.

Memoirs of a memoir.

Oh, somebody gave me a good, uh, my friend, our friend Joe Grun.

He texted me because he listens to the toast, and I was saying, What should my next book be called?

A Tale of Two Turties.

Which two of these turties?

So he's like, You need to have kids, and like, then there's like two turties, like the new mom era, and then like the previous whack job turdy.

Okay, but you really want turdy in the title,

like, no but yes

we'll work on it just it's a starting point but speaking of his memoirs henry winkler has written his and he's opening up about rejecting the lead role in grease i love these stories i love these stories um

so it only took one word spread across three syllables for henry winkler to go down in television history in his first audition for happy days winkler dropped his iconic a which became an immediate signature for his 1950s greaser, Arthur Fonzi Fonzarelli.

I guess that's...

Oh, so it's happy days.

I guess so.

But

after his effortlessly cool character became a bedrock of the hit American sitcom across its show's tenure.

I love the word bedrock.

Bedrock.

Beans are the bedrock.

Right.

Winkler found himself paralyzed.

This is a People magazine article that's incredibly well written.

Winkler found himself paralyzed by fears of being typecast, going so far as to turn down the role of Danny Zucco in 1978's Greece, which was ultimately played by John Travolta, he writes in his memoir.

I need to look up what a young Henry Winkler looks like just so I can visualize him as Danny Zukko.

Henry said, I was dumb.

I spent so much energy, so much time.

I spent so many sleepless nights thinking, how do I not get typecast?

What would he tell actors facing a similar predicament today?

You go with the flow.

What you do is you prepare to reinvent yourself.

You do something completely different and then come back to center.

I feel like the idea of being typecast, like the predicament of being typecast is such a good problem to have, like, such a

luxury to be, like, oh, in so many things, as this, so many popular things, as the same person.

Like, okay, if you ever get to that point, like, a good problem to have.

I just looked up a picture of a young Henry Winkler.

Um, he looks literally like Danny Zucco.

His hair is jailed back, and he was wearing a leather jacket.

And I guess that might have been what his character on Happy Days was like, so we didn't want to do another like slicked back bad boy thing.

So, I get it.

And you know what?

It kind of served him well because my

sort of association of Henry Winkler is like family man, cutie, like opposite of Danny Zucco.

So it worked.

Yeah, I agree.

And honestly, that movie like made John Travolta after Saturday Night Fever.

So

that was good for John Travolta.

It was good for Scientology.

And I guess good for Henry Winkler.

It was meant to be because John Travolta is meant to be Danny Zuko.

I'm not looking for a different Danny Zucco.

I feel like whenever we hear about missed casting news, like things that almost, it's always from Watch Robins Live.

Yeah.

So I'm glad to have gotten this from another news source.

From a primary source.

From a primary source.

I don't know if I would read this book.

I don't think that I would.

I would require too much Googling for me.

And also, it's like, I don't even know how Happy Days was received.

Was it the biggest show on TV?

I don't know how many seasons.

It was.

It was.

Yeah, but like, unless you lived it or even remotely familiar with it, I don't feel like it would be interesting.

Yeah, but then like I read

a memoir last year by Carrie White.

She was a celebrity hairstylist, like, in the 70s, 80s.

And you would think, like, that wouldn't do it for me, but it was so fascinating.

Yeah, I remember.

It's called Upper Cut.

I highly recommend.

I like that name.

That's a good title.

Oh, what's Henry's title?

Being Henry.

It's a little basic.

And then subtitle, The Fawns, dot, dot, dot, and beyond.

If he had played Buzz Lightyear, that would be like better.

Did he?

Who plays Buzz Lightyear?

I'm trying to think.

I know Tom Hanks is William.

Who plays Buzz Lightyear?

Tim Allen.

Classic.

Yeah.

Classic voice.

Well, happy for the Fons.

Happy for my former seatmate.

And like, it's so good to see him out here, like, you know, doing big things.

Why is it memoir season?

That's a good question.

Well, a lot of books do come out before holiday season, October, November, because that's just good for book sales.

So I think I do believe that's why.

Another memoir that's really amazing is The Camper and the Counselor.

Yeah, a young girl's struggle.

It's beautiful.

To find herself in a whole new world.

It's kind of a coming of age story.

It is a coming-of-age story.

And I've gotten a lot of feedback from people who it's like, this is a great book, not even about camp, just about like separation, anxiety, about leaving your parents for the first time to do anything, like a sleepover.

It has Theo needs that book.

It has eternal lessons.

Yeah, it's a universal story.

It is.

It really is.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Daniel Radcliffe's Harry Potter's stunt double was paralyzed after Deathly Hollow's set accident, and now the two have teamed up for a documentary to tell his story.

So Daniel Radcliffe has boarded the upcoming HBO original documentary called David Holmes, The Boy Who Lived, as an executive producer, in addition to being prominently featured in the film as an interview subject.

The movie, which is set to debut in November, chronicles the life of Daniel's Harry Potter stunt double, who worked closely alongside Daniel from Sorcerer's Stone all the way to Deathly Hollows Part 1, when he was tragically paralyzed during a set accident.

Holmes broke his neck performing a stunt and was paralyzed from the chest down.

The official doc synopsis from HBO reads, the film is a coming-of-age story of stuntman David Holmes, a prodigious teenage gymnast from Essex, England, who was selected to play Daniel Radcliffe's stunt double in the first Harry Potter film film when Daniel is just 11.

Over the next 10 years, the two form an inextricable bond, but on the penultimate film, a tragic accident on set leaves David paralyzed with a debilitating spinal injury, turning his world upside down.

As Daniel and his closest stunt colleagues rally to support David and his family in their moment of need, it is David's extraordinary spirit of resilience that becomes their greatest source of strength and inspiration.

Oh my God, I literally have chills.

I chose this story.

I just want to get credit for it.

Because I saw it and I was like, like, this is so fabulous, you know, telling a story that would never get told.

I feel like situations like this get buried because like Hollywood doesn't want like their

practices to be called into question.

I love that Daniel Radcliffe is associated with it.

One, because it'll just get more eyeballs on it because that's how the world works.

And two, I think if he wasn't on it, depending on how the story is told, like he could come off almost like a villain.

I don't know what happened, but the fact that he's a part of it it and amplifying the story and, you know, he has a friendship with this guy, I think it's fabulous.

Yeah, I think it'll be really interesting.

I didn't even know this story.

I'm not a Harry Metter swirly,

so maybe it's known in that community.

But I also feel like

there are probably a lot of stories like this that don't get told.

Like this, I would do, I would watch a documentary on like stunt community in general.

Stunt culture.

Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a crazy job to choose.

It's for that thrill-seeking type of guy or gal.

Yeah.

It's like that's a job I could never do.

I'm like afraid of fucking everything.

Yeah, I actually saw a video recently.

You know how everyone says like Tom Cruise does his own stunts.

Like that just like never meant anything to me.

I saw the video.

I think I might have sent it to you because I was so impressed by like what it meant for him to do his own stunts.

You probably sent it to me on reels after I'd seen it a few times.

No, you sounded impressed.

And it was just like him riding a motorcycle off a cliff over and over and over again.

Yeah.

I agreed.

Like Tom Cruise does his own stunts.

Like those are words that meant nothing.

Yeah.

Just a couple of words strung together.

Especially because they never saw Mission Impossible.

Like I don't know what the stunts are, you know?

But I agree.

I saw the visual of that and also him.

There's a scene where a plane is taking off and he's like literally holding onto the plane on the on the wing.

Oh my God.

Yeah, so I saw that too.

He's a nut.

There's literally no reason for that.

Like in this day and age, like do it in a studio and get a computer.

Like

Tom Cruise is so interesting.

And you know what made me think about him?

The perfect word for him is nutty.

Like he's nutty.

I was just thinking about him because in Beckham, like when the Beckhams moved to America, they become friends with celebrities, but they keep saying Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise, Tom Truz.

Like as if...

Oh, did they?

I don't even remember.

Yeah, like he was always out with Tom Cruise.

Like as if that was like the biggest guy in the world.

And like, I guess that he is.

He was.

No, he's not.

He was.

Like back in the day, because now

with the internet, like people know things about Tom Cruise, like Scientology and

a lot of that came out after he divorced Katie Holmes.

Yeah, Katie Holmes was like who they were double dating with at the time.

But like even every time Tom Cruise comes out with a movie, it's number one.

He's like the biggest movie star still.

But he just.

He's kind of that definition of like an old school movie star.

We don't really have like movie stars anymore because everyone does a million movies on all the streaming.

But back in the day, there was a couple movies a year that were the biggest ones.

And if there was a Tom Cruise movie, like he was the star.

Like he was the definition of a quintessential movie star.

One, he still is.

And two, it's just like, it doesn't compute for me.

Just like Tom Cruise does his own sons, like Tom Cruise's new movie, like I just am not paying attention.

It's not our genre.

So it was just crazy.

Like, it's David Beckham, he's coming to America, and it's about Tom Cruise.

So who do you think is like the next Tom Cruise?

Where it's like every movie

is a success.

I think it's Miles Teller.

I feel like Top Gun was like the actual

baton.

Yeah, but I feel like Miles Teller will do and has done like more like artsy introspective movies, where it's like Tom Cruise is action.

Yeah, yeah, no, like mass appeal.

They're just action movies, good or bad, mission impossible.

Like Miles Teller, I guess like Tom Cruise doesn't get Marvel.

Tom Cruise doesn't get nominated for an Oscar.

So I guess it's like Marvel, maybe like Chris Hemsworth or Chris Pratt.

Chris Pratt.

Pratt of the Chris variety.

But no, Chris Pratt being a movie isn't a guaranteed box office success.

It kind of is.

No, it's really not.

Why?

What recently?

Even like his Super Mario

huge.

Yeah, it broke like every record.

Yeah, people didn't like it because they don't like him, but it broke every record.

That's literally Tom Cruise.

I stand by like a Chris Hemsworth.

I think it's a Chris of the Pratt variety.

Yeah, you're right.

It's not like the Oscar Archie

Jurassic World.

Yeah, Jurassic World.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's got a lot of franchises under his Guardians of the Galaxy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, Claudia, these two people are the same.

But I don't think of Chris Pratt as like so famous as a person.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, I don't think he gets hounded by paparazzi.

I think that if he wanted to, he could.

Yeah, maybe Tom Cruise wanted to.

Yeah, but now he doesn't.

No, no, no.

Interesting.

Highway

to the danger zone.

Ba-ba-da.

You know?

I do know.

Anyways, the documentary on the stunt double.

Looks fascinating.

Oh, yeah.

We took that really far.

It does look fascinating.

And it makes me really like Daniel Radcliffe, like amplifying, you know, the silenced voice of this person.

Yeah.

Daniel Radcliffe, another one.

Let's talk about it.

Let's, because I didn't die to talk about it for a fucking minute.

What do you have to say?

I don't don't know.

I don't know either.

What an interesting fella.

You think he's set for life financially?

1,000%.

And that's kind of the dream.

I know he does like other smaller projects now.

And like he does, like independent and like comedy.

He kind of can like fuck around and do whatever he wants.

I feel like he's done like some projects with Funnier Dodge.

Yeah, he has this show that's like a medieval parody show.

Okay.

But yeah, he just can fuck around.

He has mailbox money for life.

Love that.

You think Ron Weasley does?

Yeah.

And Emma?

Yeah.

But she continues to work like in mainstream.

Yeah, but she also chooses like some dogs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Some dogs.

Like she chooses unprofitable things.

Not

Beauty and the Beast.

But I feel like, I don't know why I feel like she didn't want to do it.

I'm also so glad you talked about that because I've been dying to talk about it for a fucking minute.

And I feel like maybe honestly.

Beauty and the Beast is my absolute absolute favorite recent Disney film in like the last 20 years.

It's the best hit.

It's hands down.

It's unreal.

It's perfection.

It's perfection.

We've watched it a thousand times.

We know everything about it.

We watch like the DVD extras.

And you're right.

Like Emma Watson has this

attitude where she's like clearly doing it for the money and she thinks this is too much.

No, I don't even think it's for the money.

Like maybe she was blackmailed or something, but you just get the sense that she

doesn't want to be there.

And if you watch the movie now through that lens, you will understand what we're saying.

And I think it's because she's fiercely feminist and Disney at its like, you know, basics, especially that film, you know, she marries her captor.

Like, it's not the most woke, you know, female first hurstry type of film, but that's why we love it.

Right.

So it's like, why did she take it?

And even when she like talked, when she do interviews about the role, she was like, I really wanted Belle to be like, you know,

more of like an industrial, industrial modern woman, like, you know, can take care of herself independently.

So that's why they have that scene of her doing her laundry in an innovative way.

No, and that's why I also saw this

in a DVD extra.

Something that was Emma Watson's idea was to have Belle's like dress that she wears throughout town be hiked up on the side.

a signal that she's an industrialist because she can't be walking around town in a dress.

Her dress needs to be hiked up with her boots so that she can, you know, do her laundry in an innovative way.

Yeah, so she does her laundry in an innovative way, thus, you know, know, flipping on its head the message of Stockholm Syndrome in the movie.

She's very mechanical that she learned from her father.

And I'm just like, so why'd you do it?

Yeah, like, let's get a woman in here who doesn't care.

Like, because it just kind of puts this cloud over the movie of like, Emma Watson hates this movie.

Oh, my God.

You're so right.

And like, we know Emma Watson.

We know her personality and her values and what she stands for.

And we know, honestly, like, Belle is different.

Like, Belle's not like that.

Belle is just a traditional woman who likes to read.

Yeah, and like wants to be taken care of.

Yeah, she saw that castle.

She got ideas.

She was impressed.

She had ideas.

So you're right.

I guess like the one fatal flaw is that Emma Watson's like

personality really doesn't align with the character of Belle and she doesn't do a good job of hiding it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like Emma Watson is just one of those girls and I feel like I'm talking, I always talk about them, like this new modern wave feminism who like wears t-shirts that say, you know, the future is hers, hers to re the future is female it's very like performative in my opinion like white woman's activism and doesn't actually move the needle and those people like don't actually support women um that's just like my that's just my i don't know if that's true about emo watson that's just how i receive it that's that sort of activism and it doesn't align with like the disney of your no it doesn't she tried to like make it something that it's not okay belle did her laundry cool

right belle's skirt was hiked up a little bit cool but like not in a provocative way in an industrial way.

No, and in like a signaling way, so that you,

eight-year-old viewer, know she's not like girls.

And then there's that scene where her dad is, you know, being crazy, Maurice, and he's putting together some piece of technology with gears and ships, and he can't figure it out.

And in two seconds, Belle comes over and she's like, Father, she flips the little gear, flips the switch.

Now it works.

She's brilliant, that Belle.

She's brilliant, that Belle.

So, Daniel Radcliffe doesn't have to work.

Right.

That's where, that's what we were going.

And until I experience Harry Potter, which I do believe, like, as a boy mom, that's in my future.

100%.

So that's why, like, I'm not going to clown on Harry Potter.

I just like kind of take a step back and I'm like, I don't know anything, but I look forward to entering the world because I think once I do, I'll be obsessed.

And also, ever since someone told me that I'm a Ravenclaw and explained the traits of Ravenclaw, girl, I'm a Ravenclaw.

I was told I'm a Gryffindor.

I think you are a Gryffindor.

Like, affable.

You're such a Ravenclaw, and I literally don't even know, but I know they probably read.

They're like independent thinkers, like question everything,

come to their own conclusions.

Gryffindor is like very affable is the vibe.

Yeah, I'm definitely a Gryffindor.

All I know is that if somebody calls you a Slytherin, like they hate you, and they think of you like an extremely lovely.

But do they not hate you more if they call you Hufflepuff?

I just think like, and maybe I have a lack of knowledge.

I just feel like

if you call me Hufflepuff, like you're calling me fat.

1,000%.

1,000%.

And I don't know, but it's just the vibe.

Yeah.

Like Hufflepuff is like, it's puff.

It's chubby.

And from like the few moments I have seen of Harry Potter, like I just remember like one Hufflepuff character that was chubby.

Yeah, no, that's definitely facts.

I'll need to look more into it.

I can't imagine it's a whole house of chubby people.

If I have to imagine like Hufflepuff, it's Bruce from

like, it's, yeah, it's like that more chubby, affable type of person, but who's severely underestimated intellectually.

If I had to guess.

Got it.

And Gryffindor is like that affable kind of like color war captain.

Mint vibe.

Main character energy.

Color war captain.

Yes.

Slytherin is like really smart intellectual who uses their powers for evil.

Yeah.

And blonde, or if you're blonde.

And yeah, of course.

And I think Ravenclaw is the opposite of that, like really smart intellectually, but you use your power for good and like you think critically.

That's why y'all girl is Ravenclaw.

I've seen definitely like Chamber of Commerce, whatever that first movie's called.

Chamber of Secrets, Secrets.

And I definitely saw the second one.

And that's it.

And I was shocked to find out, actually, because I never like fully kept up with it, that Robert Pattinson plays a critical role in a later film.

Twilight wasn't his first franchise.

He's done this before.

I think I've seen this film before.

And I didn't like the ending.

I've actually, I think I have seen a couple Harry Potters just because like, you know, at camp, we had to go see a movie, Harry Potter.

Yeah.

There was one.

Ben's obsession.

There was one with a tree, a big tree.

It was spooky.

Sorcerer's Stone?

I don't know.

Let me try and guess the names of the Harry Potter movies.

I know Chamber of Commerce and I know Sorcerer's Stone.

I know those are the first two, I believe.

I now know Deathly Hollows.

I guess it was part one and two because we just read this article.

That was Deathly Hollows.

Okay, so that's first two and second two.

And there's seven movies.

There are.

So we need the middle movies.

But what's also crazy is that in the UK, they're called something different.

I believe Sorcerer's Stone is called Philosopher's Stone.

Worst name.

I think so.

Like, where did I Harry Potter, Philosopher's Stone?

I feel like one of the films has the word portal in it.

Like

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, yeah.

Oh, you know, I think I saw that on like a

first edition like website where you could like buy

Harry Potter books.

Let's go through them, see if they ring a bell.

Chamber of Commerce.

Harry Potter, the complete collection on eBay,

Sorcerer's Stone, Chamber of Secrets, Prisoner of Askaban.

Yeah.

Oh,

classic Prisoner of Azkaban.

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Unfamiliar.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.

I don't know.

Unfamiliar.

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.

Oh, I know him.

I know him less.

And then Harry Potter.

I got a lot of full collection going for on eBay.

And the Deathly Hollows.

Let's see.

This one's $50.

For seven books?

Yeah, one to seven.

It's like not a bad price.

No, but why would you buy this this on eBay and not Amazon?

No, it's a good point.

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It's that time of year.

It's the greatest time of year.

And it's the time of year for a lot of things, but I feel like one thing we always talk around this time of year is the crown because it always comes out again in November.

Does it?

Yeah.

Oh, I'm excited.

So the final season, part one comes out November 16th.

Part two comes out on December 14th.

I don't know if that means like there's just two long episodes or what have you, but the wait, what?

Part one of the final season.

So is it like five episodes and five episodes, ten episodes and ten episodes, one episode and then one?

Oh, it was lattered.

That's not the point of the story.

Just because you have the iPad, I thought you liked it.

No, I mean, I, that's not the point of the story.

So they just like drop that confusing tidbit, which I, which I then had to like relay as if I understood as an But the point of the story is that the crown creator, Peter Morgan, reveals how Queen Elizabeth's death changed the show's ending.

So, Peter Morgan, the mind behind the crown, explained to Variety in the new interview that he was compelled to change direction with the hit television show as a result of the queen's death.

He said, We'd all been through the experience of the funeral, so because of how deeply everybody will have felt that, I had to try and find a way in which the final episode dealt with the character's death, even though she hadn't died yet.

So, the decision, right?

Because we're saying goodbye to her like forever and the show will end in 2005 he said it was important wow to keep the cutoff to keep it historical not journalistic so it stops almost 20 days before present time this last season 20 years

this season will delve into um prince william navigating life in the wake of his mother's death the marriage of charles and camilla the early stages of william and kate middleton's relationship and the relationship between diana and doti fayed ahead of their fatal car crash in Paris.

No, and

who just died?

Mohamed Fayed, right?

Yeah.

Dodi died in the car.

Right.

Oh, and then

Muhammad died, yeah, I guess.

Just recently, like a year ago.

Right.

I love the actor who plays him.

I don't know what Mohamed Fayed was like in real life, but he's so fucking funny.

He's so affable in the show.

No, I relate to him.

Like all he cares about is fame.

And he's like, I have...

Endless amounts of money.

Get me to the family.

No, not even just fame.

Get me to the queen.

Yeah, no, he had had big.

I'll buy this house for the queen.

Yeah, yeah, no, I'm obsessed with him.

Um,

now I love the crown

and I love royals, and I love, you know, modern royals, but I feel like the beauty of the crown for me was learning so much about a time before I was alive and the crazy things that happened in the royal family, but also in England and in the world.

So I feel like a little fatigued by modern, like the Diana years.

I feel like there's been so many documentaries and films, and I feel like we're always talking about Diana with Harry and Megan.

So, I'm a little, I'm a little Diana eroded fatigued.

I'll still watch it and love it.

But I think I'll probably end up when I re-watch the whole series in 10 years, really preferring the earlier season.

Yeah, and like the creator said, we're getting into a territory where it's like the history hasn't been written.

It's a little bit disputed.

It's a lot of like

said she said.

So, I am, I think the 90s portion will continue to be very interesting, especially like how Charles navigates being with Camilla.

I don't really know.

Even that, all that stuff about like the phone call and the tampon.

Tampon.

I didn't know any of that.

So to me, that was still like things in which I didn't know.

I do look forward to seeing the portrayal of William and Kate just because that's always fun.

Yeah.

But no, but the best part of the crown is like literally after the episode, Googling and being like, oh my God, these things really happen.

Princess Anne getting her toe sucked on the beach.

But I think like up until 2005 for me personally, so I would have been 13, like I still wasn't paying that much attention, let alone to like the royal family.

I didn't have a care in the world.

Yeah, no, that's fair.

Unless totally, they were meeting the Spice Girls.

Then I care, which they were.

I wonder if the Spice Girls would be in.

You know how sometimes they just like put.

Yeah, like Jackie Kennedy was in an episode.

Random like celebrities, real people

who met the queen.

Yeah, so I'm really excited for the final season of The Crown.

It is still my dream for the next crown to be like a crown prequel and to be about Queen Victoria.

Oh, I would like that.

They should do like

this, but just go back further.

No, I totally love.

Or different countries.

Countries.

They could do CC.

Russia.

They could do Russia for days.

Right.

That's the wait.

Don't tell me.

Romanovs.

Just wait till you get sucked into the Romanovs, Turdy.

No, it's in my future.

I would love that for you.

Yeah.

Even though there was an episode of The Crown

about the Romanovs, and it ended.

It seemed that the Romanovs ended poorly.

I can't

imagine a worse fate.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Were they Jewish?

No.

Oh, okay.

I'm conflating two historians.

Certainly not a friend to the Jews.

Oh, so I don't really care how they're fake.

Yeah, that's always like I'm obsessed with Russian history,

all the czars.

And then it's like, I'll read about them, and it's all so glamorous and interesting.

And it's like, but then, like, the way they treated their Jews is literally why we live in America now.

Like, that's where our family hails from.

As Russian girlies are still.

Yeah, so

it's hard to, you know, bounce, but I just keep it separate.

No, that's just whenever, as like a Jewish person, or even like any person who's a conscious adult who knows about the Holocaust, but especially as a Jewish person, when I get into something historical that's not like World War II, like Downtown Abbey, it starts in 1912.

I'm like, well, what were these peeps doing in 1939?

Oh, you know,

and they never get there in Downtown Abbey.

I think the show's, then the movie ends.

It's like 27 is the first movie.

Right.

So maybe we're at like 1930.

I don't think they'll they'll get there because it gets dicey.

But it does, you know, beg the question.

I always think like when we get there, Cora from Downton Abbey is Jewish.

So, you know, maybe she is a Jewish.

No, but maybe that's why engaging in like British history is enjoyable because they never became Nazis.

That's so true.

You can root for them.

They didn't become Nazis, but they experienced the war.

The world.

They fought Nazis the whole time.

Right.

They were good people.

Yeah, so you can always root for them.

So I'm not worried about, you know, what Robert Grantham was doing.

Like, he was fine.

Oh, that's true.

I guess like Cora's not going to get taken out of her house by a Nazi because the ledger says she was Jewish.

Right, because they never made it over.

They protected, yeah.

And even in Downton Abbey, Robert Grantham actually does like mention Hitler once because of Edith's husband who went to Germany.

The Marquis.

No, Edith's husband.

Oh, Michael.

Michael went to Germany and disappeared.

And they were talking about the brown shirts.

And then they were like, there are these guys.

They wear brown shirts and they're mad.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

So that was like a little Easter egg.

So, such a good point.

So

what was I saying?

So, yes.

So the Romanovs.

And it's like every tsar, some were terrible.

And then, you know, one dies and the next one's like, what's it going to be for the Jews?

Right.

You were saying, though, that the crown should do other.

generations and other countries.

Yes, other generations would love, other countries would love.

Really, someone should do something extensive on the Romanovs because there's so much there.

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

I feel like I've, I've watched everything that I can.

There's a really good documentary on Netflix, but it's not like scripted or anything.

And I know there's that one show with L.

Fanning that I didn't like.

Please don't tell me to watch it.

The Grit.

Catherine The Grit.

It's called The Grit.

Yeah.

And it's not good.

Sorry.

I watched, actually, weirdly, the first episode.

Did you like it?

No, she goes and just gets in the first episode they married off

to marry.

But it's not good.

They try to be like comedy.

It's funny.

Please don't tell me to watch it.

I've tried.

I've tried.

I know it should be something I would love.

So that's how bad it is.

Yeah.

Our fifth and final story is like a little bit of viral news.

You know us.

We love to talk about what everyone's talking about.

Yeah.

And there's a list of places going around that women refuse to go on a first date.

Okay, so this all started on TikTok.

Let me explain because I know you don't know.

This woman went viral for making a TikTok in her car about this first date she was going on.

And the guy took her to the Cheesecake Factory.

And she's like, are you fucking kidding me?

She was very funny, but it sparked a debate about like, would if someone took you to the Cheesecake Factory, would you be upset?

So here's a list of places women refuse to go on a first date.

And let's discuss.

And really, as much as I love the Cheesecake Factory, and I would love to say, like,

you know,

if someone took me there on a first date, that would not be a deal breaker.

If they took me there on a first date, like in a serious way,

I think it's so hard for like a blank to make a blanket statement on a place because first of all, where do you live?

That's the big question.

In a lot of places, like the Cheesecake Factory is the only, you know, nice sit-down restaurant for miles.

So circumstances, socioeconomics, like there are a lot of different factors.

Yeah.

So are you answering the question like broadly or as you yourself?

So, okay, let's set the scene.

I met this guy on an app.

He barely knows me.

Like, it's not someone who knows that I love the Cheesecake Factory.

Cause, like, if Ben took me there, I'd be like, fuck yes.

He barely knows you.

You live in New York City?

Or you live in like a smaller city?

I don't know.

If I live in the city, it makes no sense.

There's 1,000 restaurants before I get to a Cheesecake.

Cheesecake Factory is actually easy.

Logistically.

Yeah, it's outside of the city.

It's in Jersey City.

Okay, let's go through the list.

One Cheesecake Factory.

Two,

I would be okay with it.

They serve alcohol.

It's an like, I really would, for real.

Two Applebee's.

Okay.

It's less nice.

It's more of a neighborhood spot.

There's a lot of like sports teams, you know, after-school little leagues that go there.

Maybe not.

Where did we go after Coachella?

Was that Applebee's?

Applebee's.

It was fantastic.

Yeah, but we went at midnight.

That's true.

It was like.

So it was like a lit after, like, it's like a drunk munchy.

Got it.

Three chilies.

It's a little pedestrian.

Two at first state.

We're trying to, you know, woo

dine and dine.

But again, like, it just depends on the person.

Like, living in New York, you have elevated dining.

So, of course, a chain like chilies isn't considered fine dining.

It's not considered fancy.

But in different parts of the country, like, I just feel like this conversation isn't.

Yeah, it's like in glee when they go to Breadsticks.

Exactly.

Like, by the way, perfect example.

The next one I actually think is a hard note no matter what.

And that's Chipotle.

It's a hard no no matter what.

No, they do serve beer and

some alcohol, but like that is just not a romantic vibe.

Even.

No, and a lot of their seating is bar stool high tops with no backs.

That can be Olive Garden, which is the next one.

Like that could be more romantic.

Agreed.

Olive Garden's a.

Six, the movies.

Agreed.

No matter who you are, where you're from.

Yeah.

First date, because you're supposed to get to know someone, not sit in silence for three hours.

Seven, your house, agreed.

First date.

agreed

agreed as in yes or no no

no no you don't go to someone's house on a first date in this climate that and also like take me out

yeah yeah not i mean eight any fast food chain

yeah

nine buffalo wild wings

i don't know it's like a cute sports bar

like

i think i think it's okay too 10 wing stop i've never been

very similar to buffalo wild wings like

sports bar, energy.

I think it's fine.

11, Red Lobster.

Totally fine.

It's elevated $5.

$12, a buffet.

Like Golden Crown.

I agree.

Yeah, no.

That's not the vibe.

No, it's not romantic.

And you really can't load up like you would want to.

It's so true.

It's like a waste of money to pay for the buffet because you can't like, you know, throw dinner rolls in your purse.

13, I hop.

Only because it's breakfast.

Breakfast is not date.

Date is like, you know, the lighting is a little bit more dark.

Yeah, it's a little bridge in there.

Do they serve alcohol even?

No.

Yeah, I think you have to have a liquor license.

I agree.

14, Denny's, same thing.

Yeah.

15, the gym.

Duh.

Oh, I didn't even know that was up for debate.

16, interesting.

Church.

Say it was temple.

I think if that's your lifestyle, that's actually incredibly sweet.

I agree.

As long as we're going to get a bite

after.

No, and as long as we're on equal playing fields, like if this person's really, you know, very religious and the person, you know, going out on the date is not, like, don't take me to your church if I don't like pray or if I don't ever go.

But if these are two church-going peeps, that's lovely.

But we do have to get a bite tea after.

It's unbelievable.

Isn't it like going to the movies?

Like.

Yes, but it's a little bit different because you're connecting on a spiritual level.

Yeah, you're not talking.

You're getting to know each other.

It's different than the movies, but it's similar.

17 Starbucks agreed.

No.

18 coffee dates agreed.

Like, that's not a romantic date and certainly not a first date.

Actually, I don't know.

People do like coffee dates.

It's like a quick way.

Like, let's see if we even like connect on the smallest level and then we'll take it out for real.

I'm kind of a good.

But that's like what going for a drink is for.

And I just feel like coffee, if you're really in a place where like you're just just like grabbing coffee to see if you even like this person, like you must be going on so many dates.

Like it should be a little special thing.

It should be special.

It becomes a little kind of

coffee date is like we can't drink coffee past five o'clock.

So like we're just meeting in the middle of the day.

Like can't we have something special?

Yeah, if we're meeting in the middle of the day for 30 minutes and like, you know, it's our lunch break from work.

It's like, what, just so I could get a look at you to say yay or nay.

I feel like that's like very serial dating.

Shallow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like speed dating almost.

And I i don't think that's the way to be even though i do think you should go on a lot of dates if you're looking for a partner but like not like that

yeah ice cream dates

cute but even though it feels like a second half of a date yeah yeah you know it's like a but i don't know strolling around a small town with an ice cream cone sitting on a bench is not cute actually and that's a that's a good like low budget and also

And I don't mean low budget in a negative way.

I mean like if you're going on a lot of dates, you don't have to spend $100 every day.

They dedicated the stroll.

If they were just sitting in the ice cream shop eating their ice cream and then going home, it's not enough.

No, but there are definitely ways to do dating on a budget.

And I think, you know, walking around a park at twilight, getting ice cream, sitting like that.

That's cute.

Walking.

Yeah.

With like a little food truck, maybe.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or an ice cream truck.

Yeah, exactly.

Next family functions, agreed.

No.

Agreed.

Next movie night, Netflix Hulu.

Agreed.

No, because that also you have to be at their house.

Next, somewhere that requires a long drive, agreed.

No, yeah, uh, next bowling.

I think bowling's okay, it's like a fun activity to get to know someone.

They sell liquor there,

yeah.

I think it's, I actually, I thought that was gonna be on the list, and I would disagree.

Bowl just two people,

yeah, just not as fun.

Next, nightclub, agreed,

hookah bar,

agreed, agreed, next a bar for just drinks, disagree

Totally fine.

Next, Waffle House.

No.

Next sports events.

It's kind of like a movie.

Yeah, it's better.

I think it's okay.

That's okay.

That's kind of nice if someone takes you to a sports event.

They like care.

If both people are really into sports.

Yeah.

It's like common ground to connect on.

And it's like, that was a good story.

I thought it would spark some interesting combo.

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Nice long one today, and I feel so good about it.

This was like one of our best shows.

The bell thing.

I'm cracking up.

The bell?

B-E-L-L-E.

Cracking up.

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