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morning, Millennials.

How you doing?

Hi guys, I'm here with Olivia today.

I don't know if we explicitly told the toasters that you were going to be Wednesday's episode in studio with me, because you know this week is a bag of of randomness.

A bag of fun.

No, I just posted on my Instagram story that I was on the toast.

So mostly to share that I'm wearing my natural curly hair on the toast, which is literally the first time I've ever publicly done anything with my natural hair.

Talk to us about this decision.

Well, because I woke up this morning, I had so much to do.

I didn't really have that much time.

I showered and like, obviously, if you have curly hair, or just in general, you know, like when you start blow-drying your hair and then ironing it, you start sweating.

Like I wasn't in the mood to come here sweating.

And I was was like you know what I'm just I'm going for gold like I'm just gonna embrace who I am no but do I don't think we've ever done the toast together in studio not here not ever no like maybe maybe a long time ago yeah like in the you know pink background first toast studio.

We definitely did it together when Claudia was on tour, but definitely not in the last five years and certainly not in this studio.

And the only reason why I fully know that is because I get to sit in Claudia's seat, which is more my side.

And so like when I replace you and I sit over there, like I'm always 100% more uncomfortable because like my body doesn't turn that way, you know?

Yeah.

Claudia got the good side when we started a show seven years ago.

And it's fine.

I've made this side my own and now I like it.

Yeah, no, you can rock anything.

So you're good.

No, I, I, yeah, it is what it is.

If I had, like, if I had my drothers seven years ago, I would have chosen that side, but it was more important to her.

Everyone knows.

Yeah, there's something about this side.

Like, if you ever look, people actually notice it sometimes.

I've gotten like a few comments about it, but like, you'll never catch me in a photo on that side.

I'm either in the middle or like on this side.

Got it.

I just, it does, it's not comfortable.

You don't have a reason for that?

I'm telling you, it's because my body only turns this way.

You're like Zoolander.

I just like, I can't.

I don't know.

It's just always been my thing.

And it is what it is.

It is what it is.

Well, I'm so glad that you're here.

We haven't podcast.

We actually podcasted together a few months ago, but it was audio only.

So now we're in my studio, Flamingos, which is just a fun treat.

Claudia's in LA podcasting from Gear Media Studios.

And and we're just having a nice random week.

Yeah, you know, like I also never wear pink and like only when I come on the toast I'll wear pink to like match the vibe.

I feel like I have to like get into character.

Yeah, no, pink is very toasty.

I'm wearing green, which is also toasty.

It's crazy that like you're wearing pink and I'm not.

No, I know.

And if you know, like the last time I was on the toast with Claudia, I wore pink too.

And those are probably the last two times that I've worn pink.

What do you think?

Are you feeling like you want to wear more pink?

It's such a great color.

It is such a great color.

I just also really love this sweatshirt.

So I made sure to wash it last night, but like with these, you can't really dry them.

So it had to be like washed and hang dried.

So it was like a whole thing of once they dry, they lose their magic.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I need to like not wash them at all, but like I get spit up on them.

Oh, I'm disgusting.

Yeah.

So it doesn't work out.

Every time I leave the house, I look down and I'm like, how does this have a fucking stain on it?

Like every, every, everything I own has stain on it.

Permanent stain, stain that happening this minute.

Honestly, like I'm shocked that I don't have like coffee all over me right now, you know?

Yeah, it's still the morning is still young.

This is actually my second coffee today already.

Oh, but I rated your fridge for some coffee because you need coffee.

You need coffee to do the toast.

And that's what we're going to do today.

We have a great show for you guys today.

We have five stories, you know, a lot of similar stories in the news this week, which is going to be more fun to talk about today because I want to get your take on a few of the most popular stories.

And we're going to do Dear Toasters.

And I feel like everybody needs Olivia's advice in their life.

I couldn't think of a better host to accompany me for for deer toaster.

I'm so excited.

And I wish that's a lot of pressure, you know?

It is, but I feel like, I wonder if we're going to give the same advice, because if we don't, then it's less pressure.

Cause it's like, you got both

paths.

Now you choose.

So I wonder if we're going to be the same.

The thing about deer toasters is like when you initially hear a story, I feel like, or a situation, you have like an instant reaction.

And then like the more you ruminate on it, like you can talk it through.

Yeah.

That's like talking with a friend.

100%.

You got to talk things through.

That's what we're here to do.

Yeah.

I mean, talk away, girly.

I will.

So we're going to get into all that.

But before we do, let's catch up with Altivia.

How are you doing?

What's new with you?

I'm hanging out.

I always saw you.

Well, today is actually a very special day because today is my Levi's birthday.

Happy birthday, Lee.

My baby is one.

And honestly, like I could cry talking about it only because like it's gone by so fast.

And I think I've said this before, but everybody's always like, you know, enjoy it, soak it all in.

It goes by so fast.

And it is like such annoying advice.

but then when you really think about it it goes by so fast and i'm just like where did the time go you know yeah and i feel like for me both and any child baby born period is a miracle but like my two pregnancies were so different and for their own you know reasons had their own situations and so like when i just

can't believe it's a year already and I'm so excited to celebrate.

I'm excited to celebrate too.

I'm excited to give Levi his gift.

I'm not going to spoil it, but I'll let everyone know

later on.

Yeah, I know what it is.

I told you?

No.

How do you know?

Because I brought your packages in and it was so obvious.

Oh, I know.

That's so annoying.

I wanted to surprise you.

I know.

It's sick.

It's actually the most epic gift ever.

Like, you're so creative, you know?

Darn, darn, darn.

I know.

Okay.

Like, literally when I roll it up, I'm like, what the hell is this?

And I'm like, it could only be a birthday present for Levi.

But you saw that I have it.

Oh, wait, no.

No, no, no.

What you think you saw, it was not Levi's birthday present.

Really?

Yeah, because I know what you think.

There was like a Vespa.

Yeah.

That's not his.

Oh, okay.

I don't know.

That was a baby gift for Charlie.

I don't know who sent it.

It wasn't on my registry.

It's a very cool gift.

So I need to find out who sent that.

That is not Levi's present.

Okay.

Surprise, surprise.

But you did bring in Levi's present.

And I don't know what it is.

And okay, I'm so excited.

You don't know what it is.

We'll tell the people later what you got.

Yeah, because now the surprise is intact.

Yeah, it's intact.

But that Vespa was sick.

I was like, this is so cool.

Yeah, I mean, Levi's welcome to play with it.

I'm sure he will.

I mean, Kayla, I'm sure, actually will take it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But that's so funny.

I took Michaela to the store yesterday to go buy a birthday present for Levi and she picked out a book for him and she picked out

this like kind of like wooden laptop desk situation, which was super cute.

And so she gave it to him this morning.

And when we opened it up, she grabbed the book and she's like, this is mine.

And I'm like, well, she picked it out.

Girly pop, it ain't yours.

But like, she picked it out because she liked it.

Yeah.

And so now it's like, wait, but it was for someone else.

That's a hard concept to wrap your head around.

It is.

It is.

Like gift giving.

I know.

And I probably like did it all wrong because I also let her pick out a gift for herself that I bought her yesterday.

And I was like, this one's yours.

And these are for Levi.

She only saw a gift and she saw her.

And that's it.

Everything she thinks is hers, you know, even Harry's thing.

It's mine.

That's her favorite.

Yeah, literally.

So yeah, it's a special day, 1018.

And obviously, I feel like, you know, when I...

shared that Levi was born last year.

I never told anybody I was pregnant.

So it was like crazy town.

And like, can you believe we're a year from that?

Yeah.

It does feel like a year, though.

Does it?

Yeah, for me.

Oh, that's cool.

It does not for me.

But I also feel like the reason why it does is because I was actually thinking about this this morning.

The first year of your baby's life is shorter than the nine months that you're pregnant with them.

Like the pregnancy just feels so long.

And I feel like because you really like got pregnant like the month after Levi was born, I feel like that's why it feels like long.

A year because it's been a long year for me.

Right.

Yeah.

A hundred percent.

So yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, I'm excited to celebrate.

Yeah.

Me too.

Happy birthday.

Happy one year of motherhood, like of, you know, of being a boy mom.

No, one, like the first year of baby's life, whether it's your first, second, or whatever, like is a milestone for mama too.

100%.

So it's a celebration for you getting through year one, which is a crazy year.

It is a crazy year.

But I feel like right after kind of like six, seven months, which for Levi was when he started like sleeping through the night.

That's when the tide turned.

The first six months are so hard.

Even if you get your kid to sleep at like three months, like it is very difficult just in general.

And

when you're in it, it feels like it's so much.

And then it goes so fast.

And you're like, how did I even get through it?

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

So yeah, we're through it.

One year, baby.

Yay.

Okay, so let's get into the stories.

I'm so.

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Yeah, you know, I am like an adjacent pop culture girly.

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Okay, the first two stories like have the world by the balls today.

Okay.

Pop culture world, actually.

I should state.

Yes.

Because there are other things going on.

But first, Maren Morris files for divorce from Ryan Heard after five years of marriage.

So documents obtained by people confirm that she filed on October 2nd in Tennessee, citing irreconcilable differences as the reason for the divorce.

This is like shocking to me.

Yeah.

Documents state that the pair who share a three and a half year year old son, Hayes, have been separated since the filing date, which is like

two weeks ago.

Yeah.

A parenting seminar was ordered by a judge on July 25th and indicated that Morris and Heard would have 60 days from the date of their filing

to filing their complaint to complete this seminar.

But on July 25th, documents indicate that Morris successfully completed a four-hour parenting skills seminar on October 14th.

That's weird.

That is weird.

On July 25th, what is that?

The seminar, it's a requirement for all divorce cases involving children in this county that they filed in.

Got it.

Okay, so maybe there was another filing?

No, but like, if, so it started, things were moving on July 25th.

Got it.

But then the divorce filing happened on October 2nd.

The official papers.

Yeah, I mean, I think one of the reasons I obviously saw this news, and then so I started to try to sleuth around.

So neither of them have made a statement yet.

This is like purely just in the news.

They found the docs.

Exactly, number one.

They got away with it for two weeks.

Yeah, but also Ryan Hurd had posted something, I think like September 20th, like this almost like love letter to Marin and her new music that was like really supportive and loving, husband-esque.

So again, based on the information that you're sharing, if things had gone awry like come July, like it's so interesting that he did that in September.

Yeah.

Well, I feel like, you know, things take a while to deteriorate, especially if you have a child.

Like I'm sure you're trying to make it work, trying to make it work.

And like even if they filed on October 2nd, like things were probably bad for a while.

Yeah.

But I could imagine a world where like he respects her so much as a musician and like as a person because they both are musicians where it's like, okay, maybe you didn't work out as my wife, but like I support what you're doing.

And, you know, she made this big statement with her music and with herself, like saying she's leaving country music.

And so he must have very much agreed with everything she was saying and like wanted to come out and speak out for her.

Yeah.

I mean, I think my take on the situation having absolutely zero context, so I obviously say that up front,

I think it's probably very hard to be in a relationship where you both kind of started here together.

Like they met writing a song together where they were both really unknown.

And then like her like star rose really fast and like he just didn't take off in the way that she did.

I actually personally like a lot of his music.

And

he's a great musician, but obviously like he never, you know, he's not like Luke Hombs level of country, right?

Or of just music in general.

He's kind of, I would say, you know, doing his own thing and maybe more of a, I think he's a songwriter also.

Like he's, I know he's also written some lady A songs, i think um not 100 sure of that but i'm i'm almost positive on that um so i would just imagine it's really hard to be in a relationship like that where someone is like so much more famous than the other but you both kind of started at the same place and both wanting that you know because yeah like she was on tour and like he was just kind of following along and i think you know I think he probably did as good of a job as he could supporting her for as long as like his heart could take, but there has to be some level of jealousy there.

You know, how do you really deal with that?

Yeah, well, they're the last of a couple of three country couples that were in this position.

So first was Casey Musgraves and Rustin Kelly, and it was the exact same thing.

Like she's more successful, but they both do the same thing.

Kelsey Ballerini and Morgan Evans, who also bit the dust last year.

And now Marin and Ryan.

And I feel like when the other couples, you know,

divorced, we compared them to the other ones in this situation.

And then Claudia and I, like always said, you know, who does such a good job of like, even though it's not equal in terms of success, they support and they love each other and they're having a successful.

Also, Carly Parse Michael Ray.

Oh, yeah, but that was like, that crashed and burned like really fast.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But then, and then her star really took over.

Yeah, but that wasn't like a success.

That's not a successful marriage.

And also they got married at all like the same time and they were all, it was just very similar situations.

So I hate to like, you know, generalize and be like, you know, the men can't handle the women's success.

I do think that plays a part in it, but I really felt like Marin and Ryan,

I'm on first same basis with both of them.

I really, I felt it was different.

In this situation, like, I don't think that's it.

Okay.

Okay.

That's super fair.

That's the only thing that I can do.

No, I mean, I'm sure it doesn't help things.

Like, it can never be helpful when two people are trying to do the same thing and one of them is having more success than the other.

Like, that's hard.

But I don't think that's the only reason.

Like, it was in some of those other ones.

I think the other thing that's different about this one than the others is that they do have a child together.

True.

Yeah.

They have a son.

And maybe that's also why they held on longer.

Right.

100%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, honestly, I hope that, you know, I hope that they navigate this as amicably as possible and that ultimately they are both happy.

Yeah.

And based on, you know, the statement he put out when they were clearly getting a divorce, he has love and respect for her and it's not nasty as of now.

Yeah, sometimes people just don't work out, but that doesn't mean that they absolutely hate each other, you know?

Yeah.

It's very rare, but I think that, you know, some people are capable of that, which kudos to them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, um,

damn, damn, rip.

I mean, I think that on both sides, there'll be some new music coming out about it.

No, oh, yeah.

You know, yeah, for sure.

So we wait and see.

Yes, another bit of relationship news that kind of has the world shook because Sophia Bush is in a new relationship with Ashlyn Harris.

They both had their first date a few weeks ago and they're both beginning new chapters because they're both recently divorced.

So a few weeks ago, Sophia Bush like made waves because she was getting divorced.

It didn't really like mean anything to me because I'm not like a follower of hers and I didn't watch that show she was on.

Yeah.

One Tree Hill.

Yeah.

I only know her.

I think she's on one of the Chicago, Chicago Med or something like that.

Cause you know that's more my vibe is like the dramas, you know?

Yeah, no, but like for some people, like Sophia Bush is there.

Beverly Mitchell.

No, stop.

That's so funny.

Did you watch yesterday's episode of The Toast?

No.

Oh my God, Jackie Schimmel was on and there was literally a five-minute conversation about Beverly Mitchell because Jackie Schimmel had just run into her at Erwan.

Oh, and when she brought Claudia the smoothie, which like that clip I did see and it was absolutely hilarious.

No, I was going to say like Rachel Bilson, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bishop, like that vibe, 100%.

So Beverly Mitchell is just like maybe five years prior.

No, no, Beverly, some people's Beverly Mitchell

is Sophia Bush.

And honestly, for Jackie Schimmel, it was.

So people were really shook about the news about her divorce.

And now they're shook once again because she is spending time with professional soccer player Ashlyn Harris.

So a source told people that after being friends for years and running in the same circles, Sophia and Ashlyn went out on their first dinner date a couple weeks ago.

This is so recent and they are both beginning new chapters.

It's also worth noting that Ashlyn Harris is a female soccer player from the women's soccer national team and she made waves of her own because she was married to one of her teammates.

Right, right, right.

And they and they got divorced.

It began a few months ago and they've been living apart since the summer.

So on both sides, fans of both parties are like, you know,

shook by the news.

Yeah.

No, this would be another one where I would be interested.

I don't know if you have the data, but like on the timeline, because I think I saw that Sophia Bush, she announced her divorce like in the last like 10 days or so.

Um, and she had only been married for 13 months, I think, or something like that.

Okay.

Um, and then when was the other divorce announced and how long were they married for?

I guess it doesn't really matter.

I think this is great.

Listen, ultimately, it kind of goes back to the Marin of it all, which is like,

if you're not happy in your relationship, go find your happiness.

Like seriously.

I mean, it doesn't go back to Marin.

That would like just be.

No, no, I'm just saying you're trying to tie it together to the first story that goes for everybody everywhere.

Like, if you're not happy in your relationship, go find your happiness.

Yeah.

Also, um,

Ashlyn has two kids with her ex.

So there's a lot going on here.

Yeah, there is.

Um, the source said that Sophia and Ashlyn were friends for 10 years and bonded during

Hold on.

There's so many.

Yeah, yeah.

There's so many intricacies because the story that I saw was that they they went to dinner with Stacey London.

Oh, and is that in that article?

This was about Sophia and her husband were friends for 10 years and bonded during COVID through their love of community service.

So I guess okay, and then they got married.

Then they got married, then they got divorced.

Got it.

Yeah.

Sometimes people are better off being friends.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I'm interested to see how this all unfolds, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, I feel like the U.S.

women's soccer team, we were like such soccer girlies as kids.

You guys ever talk about that on the toes?

Like we did travel soccer every weekend.

We were so because like we all played soccer but i feel like when i think of soccer like i i don't soccer is us not claudia yeah yeah yeah even though she played two and margo played too but like we played together yeah and we played a long time yeah we played until high until we went to high school and then we played in high school yeah true yeah and we played on the same team yeah so that's why it's like our thing not yeah it's claudia margo yeah but then i went to tennis No, but tennis was also our thing.

Was it a different season?

No, no, but we played both throughout growing up.

Yeah, no, no, I know.

I'm just saying like in high school sports, like like my high school sports memories are me playing tennis.

Yeah.

But I guess I played soccer too, but I don't know.

It's not, it's not as at the forefront of my mind.

Playing tennis in high school isn't as, I think we had to choose.

You probably chose tennis and I chose soccer.

I think that's exactly right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look at us.

Sports.

We're so sporty.

Sporty.

Oh, boys.

Don't like, I feel like, you know, also people like say that, but I, yeah.

And we don't talk about it that much, but we were so sporty.

We were such tomboys.

We were such tomboys.

We were like sweatbands.

And you you would just never believe it.

You would never believe it.

Because also it's not like where the sporty is now.

But even still, like if I'm, you know, in an intramural league, when that happens, like I'm crushing it.

Everyone's always so shocked at how athletic I am.

Yeah, even when we were at AOL, we played

football, kickball?

Both.

Both.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, totally.

I think that.

I met Zach because I was in the intramural corporate league.

100%.

Yeah, we have really always been sports girlies.

And also, just not to like tie it and make it full circle, but it really is.

When you're talking about like intramural leagues, like that just made me think of camp.

Like we were so athletic at camp, you know, always playing sports and running and doing things like kids naturally do at camp.

So it all ties together.

Camp.

But we were also like the top of the heap.

Like, yeah, sure, everybody has to play sports and like go to sports activities, but like we were, you know, starters.

We were captains.

Like we were those girls.

A hundred percent.

And that's worth clarifying.

I think that that we were like riding the bench.

No, we were not riding the bench.

We, I was first singles all four years of high school that's why like tennis is so at the forefront of my mind and now that i'm trying to get back into it it's like really disappointing how bad i am because i didn't play for 10 years that's something that goes quickly yeah i mean honestly we did a lot of things as kids that we kind of gave up and i truly regret it you know like piano we played the piano forever i can like i can play heart and soul yeah but we were playing like concertos like people don't know that you were like a like cello teen phenomenon you know i don't know about phenomenon but you were phenomenon cello but you were so good at it i don't remember being like so good at it.

I was bigger than you.

Yeah, but I just remember like playing, you know, I did my lessons and I was

really good.

You were really good.

That's really nice.

No, you were.

I think also.

Oh, you played the clarinet.

Okay, I played the clarinet for one year.

I played the violin for like two years.

I played the guitar for five years.

And I played the piano for like nine or ten.

Who's counting?

No, because I think about it a lot now where it's like, oh my God.

I wish I still had those skills.

And even if I just like kept up with it once a month, like I'd be better than than the zero i am now you know yeah and i that's it's also at the forefront of my mind now that i think about like what my kids are going to get into and like how can i just really prove to them if you do something like just kind of make it part of your personality and don't just do it and then like drop it when you're 15 because by the time you get to be 32 like you'll regret it you know yeah

life lessons Life lessons.

Well, our next story is about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, but I have a lot of things to say because Travis,

Travis, they went out.

You saw their weekend in New York City, right?

Some of it, yeah.

So Saturday night, they went to dinner at Nobu, then they both guested on SNL for a second, then they went to the after party.

On Sunday, he went to the Jets game to see his brother play.

He left her apartment and then they went out to dinner again.

Is he wearing an outfit similar to what you were wearing now when he left her apartment?

Yeah.

Oh my god.

This is like Jets.

What did I say?

Jets coated.

Yeah.

AK, it's Jets colors.

Yeah.

No, honestly, there's so much it's hard to keep up with that's why i'm like some and now that you're repeating everything i'm like okay yes i i saw no boo i saw i heard about snl i didn't see it i saw him coming out of her apartment in a green kind of like tracksuit vibe i think um

So you're, it's like hard to keep up because it's everywhere, but I don't even like effing know what's going on.

Well, what's the craziest thing about it?

Like, of course, he's the best tight end in the league, but he's also a podcaster.

And so every week he has to do a podcast with his brother and like talk about their lives.

So like every week he is like addressing things that are happening.

And so he talked about he's denying pushing her security guard because in the videos of them walking, like he lightly taps the security guard.

He said, I didn't push him.

I placed my hand on the gentleman's back to let him know I was behind him.

And also like to let him know, like, bro, I'm taking the lead here.

He said, if I would have pushed him, he probably would have turned around and tased me a hundred percent.

Yeah.

No, can we go back to the podcast for a second?

Yes.

And I also just want to talk about the brothers Kelsey because I just started the documentary, Kelsey, which you watch and that you love.

Loved.

Yeah.

And I also want to get your layperson's opinion of this couple.

Yeah.

Okay.

So much to unpack there.

So let me start.

I'll start with the brothers Kelsey because truthfully, the funny thing, and I don't know how far you are in the documentary, so just let me speak freely.

Okay.

That's fine.

It's not really going to be spoiled.

They really started the documentary.

About Jason.

About Jason, the brother, because he was like going to retire.

Yeah.

And so the documentary is really about him like figuring out, you know, his post-retirement life strategy.

So they started the podcast thinking that the podcast was going to be like something for him to do after he wasn't going to play.

So it's like, it's just so funny how like life happens that way because now I think they're more in the spotlight than ever before and they have this platform, which I think is great because you get to hear from them directly, first person wise on everything that's going on instead of all the media speculation with like fake information.

My real question on this entire situation though, getting back to Travis is like, really?

It makes me think that they've been together a lot longer than people think.

Because they're being so public now?

It just happens so fast, you know?

There's just like, you know, and you know, like when you're dating somebody new, like you try to keep it under wraps because you don't know where it's going to go.

Like, I just feel like for both of them, you know, obviously he had his own e-show and has been very open about like dating in his life, but like she is the complete freaking opposite.

So something to me makes me feel like they have been hanging out for a while.

And when he put his tweet out, I think it was a tweet about, you know, wanting to see her on tour,

like that kind of got the way.

They were hanging out before that?

Yes, I do.

Oh, I do.

I don't think so.

And typically I would agree with you.

Like they need to be together and like, you know, very solid for a long time before they're going to go public.

That's how I feel about like Kylie and Timothy.

Like they, but I don't feel that way about this.

Like I feel like they had a few dates.

They really enjoyed each other, and there's no really keeping this under wraps, especially if she like wants to go to his games and like try and have like a normalish relationship and support her boyfriend.

Right.

And I think that they're both also, I think they're so into each other and just like in this like honeymoon phase.

And they're also loving how much people are loving.

And it's like, you know what?

Why not date publicly?

Even if it ends badly.

It's funny.

It was fun while it lasted.

It was so much fun.

Yeah.

It's fun for everyone.

I don't, yeah.

No, listen, I see both sides.

I think that it could be 100% both.

That is just like one conspiracy, I guess, that I, that I feel could be true because of just the way that it absolutely happened so overnight.

And it's, it's not even that, yes, it's so public.

It's her Taylor being with his mom in the box.

You know what I mean?

Like, you know, you don't really meet someone's parents a week after dating them or a month even, you know, like it's, it's so fast on so many levels.

Yeah.

But I do think it's really fun.

I think it's like exciting.

I think, listen, I'm not from the Swifties.

Like I like her music, but I'm just not,

you know, I didn't go to her concert and I think like what she does is great.

Like, don't get me wrong.

Like, I like her music.

I'm, but my personality is like, I'm not super fan dummy, you know?

So, like, I'm just not like unless I'm a Swifty.

No, I just like sync.

I like some, unless it's in sync.

I, if they, are they going back on tour?

Did I?

So I think they're feeling, they're putting out feelers.

Like, they put out this song.

I will be in the front row.

You will.

Jackie.

Miss Stanhood lives on.

I will get a game time tickets and I will fucking be there.

Wow.

Okay.

Well, you know what?

That's actually a great segue to our next story.

If we've put Taylor and Travis to bed.

Yeah, no, the one thing I wanted to address about Taylor and Travis is I love that the Beckham documentary came out as this is going on because it's literally the equivalent 20 years ago without social media.

And it's just so interesting.

I had the same thought without

bleed out.

without like with just like the traditional media amplifying it versus like today is day and age and like social media helping to amplify it.

But I remember like I was ride or die Spice Girls also.

I was like, what, you know, seven or eight when they were dating.

And like, I, I remember where I was, like, I remember the feeling, but like, you, there was no access to news.

It was like you're like reading the newspaper.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

It was just something that you knew was happening and it was felt like epic and awesome because really, and it's so funny because the documentary is so much about him, but like, she was like the star for all of us, you know?

Yeah, we're all like watching for her, us girlies.

yeah a hundred percent so we can also talk about the beckham documentary another one that i absolutely love i just finished it it was so good i had the same thought that like posh and becks are like taylor and travis and so it would be the equivalent of taylor and travis getting married having four children and being together for over 20 years like That's fucking crazy.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

No, it's absolutely crazy.

My gut is that that's not going to happen, but I would love to be wrong about that.

100%.

100%.

Well, and the reason why is because you can actually see what a good marriage that David and Victoria have, despite the highs and lows that they've had, which, and honestly, I thought that the documentary did a really good job of like,

I think that Victoria Beckham is like such an incredible woman and mom, like what she like put up with so that her husband could live his dream, even though she was a huge star.

And then also, I felt like the documentary actually didn't really give her a chance to talk about how she's like built this incredible fashion line and is still like, you know, just as big, a very big name on her own.

But, you know, it all also goes, all the stories are tied together because it goes back to soccer.

I feel like David Beckham coming here and playing soccer just made like soccer cool all around, you know?

Yeah.

Because that's like not really our sport in America.

No, it's so crazy how the whole world, like, and I was reading a lot of the experts who were on Beckham, like if you read their titles, it's like they wrote books like about the history of soccer, how soccer explains the world, like how soccer is a part of world wars.

Like they stop

wars to play their soccer game.

yeah and like for us here in the u.s it's just like in irrelevant ugly literally we're like football and we're obsessed with football yeah do you think that they will ever be a successful u.s part like

soccer endeavor there's trying in miami right now like they're trying in so like that's how the documentary ends david is a part of the miami team they have lionel messi he just won the world cup he's the biggest but he's leaving in 2025 like he already said he's done he's retired and he's out

no i just think not resigning okay he's just going like back to Europe.

Okay.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I feel like there's a lot of excitement for it.

You know, the pink jerseys and stuff.

Yeah.

No, they've done a really good job branding wise.

It's like electric.

But you just can't get people to care.

Like getting people to care about things that they don't care about is really impossible.

Yeah.

But that's why I think it's so funny because growing up, like soccer is such a core sport for kids to play.

Yeah.

You know?

I mean, that's also like lacrosse.

Like talking about the dead end.

Right.

The professional leagues are not a, but I actually think whereas, I don't know about lacrosse, but like soccer feels like it has an opportunity right now.

Right now, but also in general, like there is, you know, soccer at the Olympics, like you can have a professional career in soccer.

I do think like professional lacrosse players also have other jobs.

Oh, they do.

I think that they make more of their money from their job than they do paying.

Yeah, it's like a hobby.

But it's like growing up, like it's the most competitive sport and then it just.

peters out.

Even in college, it's pretty competitive, like depending on where you go to school.

100%.

Yeah.

No, it's weird.

I don't know.

There's nothing waiting for you.

Yeah.

And I feel like people have tried like i think there's a pl is that like the professional lacrosse league yeah but that's also like when david beckham went to the galaxy and he was playing with guys who like this is their part-time job and they also you know clean pools 100

and they were saying like david beckham's like playing with the pool cleaner yeah but i think that's where you have to get like brands and fans you have to build like Sports is such a business, you know, and it's not just because they were talking a lot about like even a salary cap.

Like they didn't have money to play, to pay people.

You have to get brands involved.

They have to sponsor the stadiums.

You have to get people to buy tickets.

Like, it's got to be like a whole organization.

I feel like all of that business stuff is easier than getting fans to care.

I would say.

Because you can't pay for that.

Yeah.

It reminds me of that episode of Mad Men when that guy

hired like the Don and the boys to do advertising because he wanted, he was like trying to make a sports league of his like dumb sports game.

Do you remember that?

No.

Hold on.

I want, it was like.

I need to re-watch Mad Men.

I really love it.

Oh my God.

It's so good.

It's such a good re-watch.

I watched it like just so long ago.

I watched it probably six years ago, so I'm not ready for a rewatch.

But

it's so good.

The suitcase.

Well, anyways, well,

it was just a random sport.

Say it was like pickleball and like someone was literally wanting to pay them like millions of dollars to like advertise for their sport to like make people care.

Yeah, well pickleball is another really interesting one because that's actually like people care about it, but there's no business around it.

Yeah.

You know, there's no like official leads.

It's not an Olympic sport, is it?

I don't think so.

I feel like it actually might become one.

They added a bunch of sports recently, like skateboarding.

Oh, did they?

Yeah.

And I feel like you actually have a better shot of like becoming an Olympic sport.

Yeah.

They'll really give you anything over at the Olympics.

There's another Olympics.

Except La Crosse.

That's so exciting.

I know, in Paris.

I think lacrosse might be an Olympic sport.

I don't.

Well, is lacrosse very much an American sport?

The thing about the Olympics is that it has to be a global sport.

Like, we don't play croquet here, you know?

Like, there has, there, it has to be a clear sport.

And there's, like, football football is not an olympic sport right because like we only play it here and they're still trying to make fetch happen in london and it's just not happening 10 years later yeah yeah

in general i don't even know if it's been 10 years but there's always a london game yeah because like as a girly with a husband that ride or dies for football like you know that your sundays from september through february are shot to hell but really Eastern Standard Time, it doesn't start until one.

So you can have your morning.

But with these fucking London games, now the 9 a.m.

start or 10 a.m.

start and it's like, give us a fucking break.

Yeah.

Sundays and Mondays and Thursdays.

And then with college football, you have Fridays and Saturdays.

And it's like, when are we supposed to watch Love is Blind?

It's so true.

Even though now that

Claudia and I watched this season, I watched in the background of Zach, so I know some of the storylines.

Cause like I would, he was always watching.

And I would like sometimes tune in, tune out.

But also now that Claudia and I are like football fans, it's kind of like not enough football.

Like so many nights we're like, is football on tonight?

No.

Ugh.

Oh my God.

Like, I'm really, not only have sports just.

There's only like two nights right now that football isn't on.

I think it's like Tuesday.

And we're craving it.

Honestly, I find football to right now,

like, first of all, the sports teams have just been like so solidly standing with Israel.

And so I stand with anyone who does that.

But even before that, I just, it's very like kind of mind-numbing, like to just watch it.

And maybe that's why the men like it.

And it's like, almost like therapeutic.

Like, there's, it's just,

it's very very American no it's like I don't know it's just it was calming weird really yeah that's so interesting yeah because usually everyone's like

you know like

get them not for me I'm like oh you know do your thing boys you play beautiful ball

now are you ready for our next story which I need to get your take on

number four okay great Justin Timberlake is all over the news as Britney Spears' memoir bombshells continued to be revealed yesterday it was revealed I know Claudia and Jackie S.

spoke about it.

She talked about why she shaved her head.

She talked about the fact that she had an abortion when she was dating Justin Timberlake.

And now she's accusing him of cheating on her with another celebrity in her explosive memoir after revealing that she had an abortion with the singer at 19.

So Brittany has accused Justin of cheating on her during their three-year relationship.

The singer made the claims in the upcoming memoir, The Woman in Me, which will be published on October 24th.

Brittany, who dated Justin from 1999 to 2002, didn't name the person he cheated on her with, referring to her as another celebrity.

According to TMZ, the star also said in her book, she did not wish to name the woman because they have a family and she doesn't want to embarrass them.

That's nice.

That is so nice.

Not so much grace for him, though.

No, no.

So this, you know, I think we all knew that Justin Dimmerlake would be running and hiding when this memoir came out.

So far, it's really not good for him.

Also,

I haven't read like the whole excerpt or nor the whole book, obviously, because it's not out yet.

But when she talked about the abortion, like she said that like Justin didn't want to have a baby and that's right.

I said that we're not ready for parents.

I don't know how she felt about it.

Right.

But like that's not a great look for him.

And then also like cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

Yeah.

He's I think the reason why, you know,

I think that that relationship, obviously, I don't know, Brittany, but I think it did a lot of damage for her, you know, and like she was so young and thrown into the limelight in such a major way.

And I honestly really feel for her deeply.

Like, I just think that I can't wait to read her book.

I love a celebrity memoir.

I don't read much, but I read the book 100%.

I will read it.

This is making me, when

it was all coming out that she was writing a book and really, it was like her talking to a therapist and like someone recording everything because she's not really writing it, admittedly.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm not interested.

But now I'm becoming more interested in hearing like her story and the circumstances that led her.

to where she is right now.

Yeah, 100%.

And I think for us, you know,

when we were kids, she was the biggest, she was like the Taylor Swift.

She was the biggest star on the planet.

And so it's interesting to hear about, and it was the same with the Jessica Simpson memoir, because some of the things that she talked about, like I remember being, you know, nine, 10 years old.

And like, you know, what I, what I saw versus what she actually experienced and all of those things.

So I definitely will be reading it.

And I honestly just really feel for Brittany.

And I think that I'm glad that she's getting the opportunity to tell her story.

Listen, if she says Justin, wasn't, didn't Justin Timberlake cheat on

Jessica Beale?

Yeah, he was holding another woman's hand on a movie.

Yeah.

Something in New Orleans.

I feel like they were like out.

So I don't know.

Where there's smoke, there's fire, maybe.

Obviously, I'm not going to say whether he's a cheater or not because I don't know.

But I am ultimately glad that Brittany is able.

to tell her story, her experience, how she viewed it.

I think it's going to be, you know, very cathartic for her.

And I think that she, she feels like she hasn't been able to have a voice for a very long time.

So I'm glad that she's getting the opportunity to do so.

And I would imagine, you know, there were a lot of crazy things that happened in that timeframe that there must be a lot of crazy stories behind the scenes because of it.

Right.

Yeah.

So no, I actually, I'm changing my tune.

I, I am going to read this book and I'm taken back to how I felt like Jessica Simpson's book.

When it was announced, she was writing a book.

Like I didn't have a thought one way or the other, but in the weeks leading up to the book coming out, we had stories every day about things that were coming out from the book and it was so interesting.

Yeah.

And I read the book and it was one of the best books I've ever read.

So I'm going to give Britt that same chance.

Like they've pulled me in.

Congratulations.

100%.

VR Machine.

You did it.

You did it.

How does this make you feel about Justin being an in-sync stan and the stanhood, as you said, still lives?

Like, where does this fit into that?

Well, one thing interesting to know about me is that I'm not a Justin Timberlake in Sync ride or die girly.

I am a JC Shazé all the way.

That's a handsome man.

Yeah.

I don't know.

He was always like my favorite.

Like my school binder folders, it was just like photos of him.

And who was your favorite from Backstreet Boys?

Jackie, I was not a Backstreet Boys fan.

But if I had to pick someone, it would have been Brian.

Okay, Jackie, do you just want me to admit that?

That's what I was waiting for.

Thank you.

But yeah, no, I love JC.

I didn't, Justin wasn't my favorite.

And it's so funny, like when I think about NSYNC, like I actually don't think about him.

Like I think about JC, I think about Lance.

I think about Joey Fatone.

Like they're killer amazing people.

And Justin Timberlake is just not really on the radar for me as much as like you would think just knowing that, of course, in the band, he was the star, but I wasn't into the star.

That's so funny.

I also just wonder, though, the nature of his relationship with the other guys, you know?

Well, I feel like they're all still friendly.

They are, and they're working together again.

I think they're like kind of putting feelers out to see if people are interested about it.

People are interested.

People are interested.

And I also think him like kind of hiding behind his bandmates right now at a time when like he's about to become very unpopular, but then the nostalgia of in sync like kind of will buoy that negative press that he's going to get from this memoir.

I think it's a little calculated and it's not the worst idea.

It's definitely calculated.

I mean, I also,

I don't know, who can, who even knows what he was going through then, just being, you know, 19, 20 years old, like thrown into the limelight as well.

Factual, he should write a memoir.

Were they in Mickey Mouse Club together?

Yes.

Yeah.

So, like, God knows what they've been through, you know?

Yeah, he should be through.

JC, Jose, who can you look up all the people that were in Mickey Mouse Club together?

It's such a wild, interesting list.

Yeah, it's like Ryan Gosling, Ryan Gosling, Jessica Simpson.

Yep.

Obviously, Brittany.

Brittany Justin.

There's some other people that are big names that you would never know.

I think Christina Aguilera.

Yeah.

But

this is either going to be 100% wrong or 100% right.

Carrie Russell.

Yep.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Which is so interesting because you would never think about her in like a song or dance sort of way.

Right.

She's just a straight up serious actress, Felicity.

you know yeah and americans which is a good show yeah so far we've got everyone

um

Now the rest of these people, I don't know them.

Yeah, I think I looked it up recently.

I think Carrie Russell was like the shocker.

Yeah, she's, she was.

Yeah.

Can you imagine you know each other since what, you're like 12, 13?

Then you're hoisted into the limelight.

Then you're in a relationship.

You have all these people like controlling your every move.

You know, you just don't even know the mental state of any of these people at that moment in time.

But I think that it obviously greatly impacted Brittany and rightfully so.

And I'm glad that I'm excited to read the story from her perspective.

Yeah, agreed.

Yeah.

now it's time for our fifth and final story some more relationship news oh wow real houses of new york alum tinsley mortimer is engaged

to robert bovard and she's getting married next month

tins the tins is engaged and she's getting married in less than a month sources close to the socialite tell page six that she's betrothed to one robert bovard and they'll getting they'll be getting hitched in palm beach mortimer um was the center of the celebrity social scene in the early 2000s and she went on to star in bravo's real houses of new york city which is how you know we've been talking about her recently.

Obviously, there was Tinsley and Scott.

She was engaged to him.

We really thought she found her happy ending.

She did not, but now it seems that she has.

Is it a business van Bo?

It is because he seems to be pretty low-key.

He's somewhat of a mystery.

He proposed with an emerald engagement ring, but it's unclear how long they've been dating or even exactly when he proposed.

But they're getting married in a month.

And I'm just really happy for Tinsley to get married.

Me too.

Now, let me ask you a question.

Is her, is she Tinsley Mortimer?

Mortimer is a married name, right?

Mortimer's her married name.

Is she going to be Tinsley Bovard?

I think so.

I think that would be the most respectful to her new husband, like instead of keeping her old husband's name.

Maybe she'll be like Tinsley Mortimer Bovard.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because we know her as Tinsley Mortimer.

Right.

That's what I'm saying.

But also the name Tinsley is unique enough that she could change her last name and we know who they were talking about.

100%.

Yeah.

She's like one-name wonder vibes for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, I, I, I wasn't really, and I still don't keep up with real housewives of New York, but um, I'm, again, just happy for anybody finding their happiness.

You're so like.

I am.

Listen, it's like,

you know, it's hard out here, especially she's really been through it.

Like, you know, the saga of her and Scott.

He was a businessman, Bo.

I don't know.

They met while she was on the show.

Carol introduced him.

We actually saw their first date on the show.

They were such a cute couple.

Like, he seemed so into her.

And she was, like, so into him.

Yeah.

And he like wouldn't really commit to her, but then he, like, finally did.

And then they like broke up because he like lives in Chicago.

And then they got back together and she was like fuck it I'm moving to Chicago she left your house I was in New York she got he he proposed to her like she's living in his penthouse in Chicago like the fairy tale come true you know she's the exception not the rule uh and then like they split again oh no yeah

so she's really like been through it yeah yeah yeah for sure so yes I'm very happy for her yeah

yeah happy for tins yeah okay so now it is time for deer toasters our weekly advice segment I've got trout skin here to help give advice before

people want want to know why you call me Trout Skin, by the way.

Oh, this is an easy one.

When we were younger, like her name is Olivia, obviously.

So I called her Oliver.

And then I thought the orphan Oliver Twist, like I thought it was Oliver Trout for a second.

So I was just like calling her Trout.

I realized quickly that it was Oliver Twist, but like Trout stuck.

And then we watched a lot of Hannah Montana at that time and she was prattling on about Trout Skin.

That's so Miley Stewart.

So once I heard Trout Skin on Hannah Montana, I started calling her Trout Skin.

The nickname laid dormant for about 15 years, but then when I moved back, when I moved down here and we're like spending all this time together, like I just got back into calling you Trout.

Yeah.

And it's really been a blessing and a joy.

Totally.

Yeah.

No, people are like, it's disgusting.

I'm like, you don't even know the origin story.

Okay, I call my sisters Trout Skin, Snitch, and Turdy.

Like take your pick.

Yeah.

Each one is worse than the next.

I think Trout Skin is actually the best of them all.

No, Turdy really is.

But Turdy is a turd.

Yeah.

I think Turdy's the worst.

I know, but it's just.

She loves it.

Yeah.

so cute

it's so funny i wonder what i would call myself if i was in charge of my i feel like yeah like you i just call you jujur like you don't really have i don't have a nickname because i make the nickname yeah you do you're the nickname girl so i wonder what my nickname would be yeah if someone else was the nickname person

Makes you think.

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Dear Toasters is our advice segment where we take your advice questions and we give our advice on your advice questions.

You can submit to deartoas at gmail.com or at the toastpodcast.com.

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Yep.

First up, hi, Jackson McClured, asterisk, Troutskin.

Let's bust the elephant in the room.

How many girlies are out here on NFL Sunday having a day of football watching with their friends slash P joms and have absolutely no idea what the fuck is going on?

I'm like not a girl to be like, I'm not like other girls, of course.

I mean, I like football, have been around it, grown up watching it with my dad my whole entire life, but I could not explain anything to you beyond the basic logistics of the game to save my life.

Am I stupid?

Also, how do men memorize the name, draft year, college, asshole, color of every player?

I don't get it.

I'm stressed.

I'm insecure in a social football setting because I have nothing intelligent to contribute.

I guess I'm just asking for a gauge here from the toasters across the nation.

How much of watching football is knowing what's going on for real and how much is pretending to know?

Also, bonus advice, how do you play it well at pretending to know?

What a great dear toasters.

I feel like I'm the perfect person to answer this because there are a lot of questions in there.

So I want to make sure we address them all.

So

field,

right?

Basically, what football is about is you're trying to get from one end of the field to the other.

I think she'll summarize that.

Okay, starting from the beginning, okay.

And you have two different ways you can score.

You can score a touchdown, which is six points, and then you kick for an extra point, seven, or you could just kick a field goal and you get three points.

Essentially, the way to get down the field is you have four downs or four tries to go 10 yards.

So, first down or first in 10 is your first try to get to 10.

If you then get a second down, second and five, that means it's your second try within the four trying to get the rest of that five.

So everything is about you have four tries to get 10 yards and you're just trying to get 10, 10, 10, 10, 10 all the way down to get to the other end of the field to score.

Now,

sometimes you will be at third and seven or third and and long, right?

And essentially, if you don't get to the marker that you need to get to, you will be at fourth down.

And what happens most time on fourth down is the team doesn't take their fourth chance.

They just then kick the ball to the other team because if you go on four and you don't get the yardage that you need, so let's say it's fourth and three and you need three yards, but you you don't get it, then the team gets the other, team gets the ball from exactly where you left off.

So what you're always trying to think about is the position of the other team to score.

And then you're taking basically three or four attempts to get all the way down the field.

Now, the one thing that I'll say about football is it is very confusing.

And it's like, who came up with that?

I always think about that when I'm watching football.

I'm like, who came up with these rules and these attempts and all these things?

You know what's confusing to me?

So on the TV, they show you the line of like what they need to get past.

Yeah.

But like, how do the players know where it is?

Because like they're always fighting on the line.

That's like CGI.

You know what?

It's so funny.

I actually, I asked Zach that, and I think like, that's just what makes you good at the game.

It's the same way when you play tennis and you know like exactly how hard to hit it so that it stays in the baseline.

It's like they know where the marker is in their mind.

They like know how the yard, they basically know where they need to get to.

Okay.

Cool.

But I think the more you watch, the more you learn.

You know, I think ultimately a lot of people don't really understand the nuances of everything that's going on and i most certainly don't but again no i really appreciate your was that your stab at explaining i kind of got lost in the middle but also i'm not so interested in learning so for this girl one like listen to olivia's recap and maybe that will help i hope it was helpful it's it's hard to explain it i mean it's so confusing like i have a basic understanding but when it comes to the first and tens and downs i don't that's where they lose me but i don't really like care to know more i'll just let the announcers explain but what i will say a good piece of advice like so often Zach has his sports shows, like commentary shows playing like in, you know, in the background of our lives.

He likes Colin Cowherd, which I don't like.

He also watches PTI every day.

And I'm not saying you need to go and watch those shows, but like I get so many talking points like for this show from overhearing it from those shows.

Or even if you're watching the game, they have like, you know, the commentators like just chiming in about what's going on with the players.

And like, I get a lot of information that way.

So that's a good way to fake it because then you could be like, oh, I heard,

you know, Christian McCaffrey, like I did hear Christian McCaffrey said that like Kyle Justice is the fixer of the game.

Like he'll see the whole field and the whole team and he'll figure out a way to like fix what's fucked up in their lineup.

Like good to know.

Also, like I remember, you know, you can make interesting trade news based on like real estate acquisitions.

Like I remember it was like rumored someone was going to one team because he bought a house there.

Like it's just, I would pick up on that.

And then of course, Churdy and I always love the celebrity element.

Like you can just watch the game who's dating a celeb, start chatting.

Well, I think what's also that the thing that I wanted to say that I thought was really interesting is like, how do they know every player, what team they played on, what team they previously played on, what freaking college they went to.

And just like, think about it in the terms of the bachelor, right?

Like, think about how many literally dozens of bachelor contestants you know, you know, how far they got.

Like, and we only watch them like for three months and one season.

Yeah.

And like, because they're watching every single week, they're reading news about it.

They're read seeing, listening to podcasts about it, they're watching, you know, sports commentator programs about it.

Like this is basically, not to make like an even comparison, but this is basically like their bachelor.

So they know the ins and outs of it.

And that's why they're able to memorize all the information.

Real housewives is also a good touch point.

And it's also like, we know the bachelor, real housewives, Van Pump Rules, Every Love is Blindcast member, like all these shows that we watch and like you can name the person, how many Instagram followers, what they're on.

That's what they do with

and they've been doing it since they were young and they actually watch like way more hours of their people than we watch of ours.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Also, it will be helpful that now that the toast is a sports broadcast, like you can get some information here.

It's football is really like, it is difficult to explain.

I think the more that you watch it, the more that you will learn.

But there's always like, there's a lot of things that are so unclear.

Safety, this.

I just feel like you don't have to get into the weeds of the game.

There are so many like ancillary things about football that you could be contributing to, like a football chili.

Maybe you bring your chili and it's about your chili.

Yeah.

But but maybe not person really wants to like understand football like she wants to be a football girly you know yeah but i just feel like there are other ways to like fudge it and get involved in the game without like knowing the transaction

you know yeah so like bring the spritzes to the game watching party talk about the celebrity connections you know regurgitate something that you heard on a sports broadcast you know Barstool has a lot of sports shows, and I think those guys are funny.

So that's like a good, funny thing.

My husband listens to part of my take every day.

That's like his.

Do you hear it?

Because he's listening to it where he's not.

Yes, he listenes.

he is very respectful.

Like when we get in the car and his phone automatically plays, he has to change it to either the little mermaid or beauty and the beast in order to, you know, be a functioning member of our car.

No, I'm always having like Colin Cowherd in my head.

I've never even heard of that person.

Yes, you have.

No, I haven't.

He's such a huge sports guy.

Really?

And Zach always watches him.

And I just like really, I don't know why I do not like him.

And I think his takes stink, honestly.

I mean, honestly, respect.

Like, I feel you.

I don't even know him, but yeah.

He does a segment that I, um, that I respect.

And it's like, you know, sports people, they make all their predictions and sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong.

And he does a segment called Where Colin Was Right and Where Colin Was Wrong.

Like just, oh, I love the self-awareness.

Yeah, me too.

Yeah.

You definitely know this guy.

He does the show, The Herd, with Colin Cowherd.

I'm going to show you a picture.

I don't.

Show me a picture.

He's nice looking.

And I know Scott Hansen from NFL Red Zone.

Never seen him in my life.

Wow.

What channel?

ESPN?

Yeah, I think so.

It's like one of the biggest shows.

My husband will be disappointed in me, but it is what it is.

Okay, next one.

Dear Jackson Claude, asterisk, live.

I live for dear toasters and I'm actually in a situation where I need to write in for help.

My dad has always told me that he'll pay for my wedding as long as I don't live with my fiancé before we get married.

Well, I got engaged in August and my lease for my apartment ends in November.

We don't get married until June 2024, and he never fails to remind us that we can't live together until we're married.

So I have two choices.

One, respect my dad's wishes and move in with a friend or my brother for seven months so I can still go stay with my fiancé whenever I want.

Or two, don't tell my dad to to fuck off and move in with my fiancé since he already gave me the wedding money.

I want my wedding paid for, but I want to be an independent as a 27-year-old and live my life without feeling like my parents still control my life.

Please help.

I think like both options are totally fine.

Personally, like when I

was engaged and did it, wasn't going to like, you know, get into a new solo apartment, but wasn't going to move in with Zach until we were married, I moved home.

So that would be the equivalent of like you living with your brother or a friend.

And it was nice.

I spent all my time.

Actually, no, I'm sorry.

Zach and I were living together when you got engaged, but we couldn't live together until we got engaged.

So until we got engaged, I lived at home because I wasn't going to get another apartment on my own.

Right.

So this is just like a little bit further down the road.

But I think it's like, I think if you, if you already have the wedding money, like, sure, you could shirk what your dad says, but.

Yeah, but like, do you really want to have like drama with your dad?

No, especially not around your wedding, which is a happy time.

I think, listen, if it's so beyond important to you to live with your fiancé before you're married then you should just really sit down with your dad and just lay out your points like this is why it's important to me and I think just being really respectful and say I really respect why you feel the way that you do and I don't I just want to explain my side of like why this is important to me or why I feel strong

fruitless like her dad feels this way he's felt this way forever it's always been the rule like trying to change his mind I I know but sometimes there's nuance there right because like if your dad really likes the guy that she's with you know what I mean like he's a good guy.

Like, I wouldn't just take the money and run because I just don't think that that's going to have you let you have a good relationship with your dad in the future.

Personally, I would play by the rules.

I would wait to seven months.

I'd move in with a friend or a brother, spend all my time at my fiancé's.

The one other thing here is like, do you need your dad's money for the wedding?

You know, even if she could do it on her own, it's super helpful to have.

I mean, of course, I'm just saying, like, you know, weigh all the options.

Yeah, I would, I would play by the rules.

It's seven months.

It's not a big deal and it'll mean a lot to your dad.

I think you could do it.

I think so too.

I'm also a fan of sit down with your dad and just give it one last hoorah, you know?

Yeah.

Even if it's fruitless, you know, I just think sometimes just having like a face-to-face conversation, like, this is important to me.

I understand your point.

I, you know, I think people just like want to be understood and heard.

And then obviously everybody can go and make their own decisions, but

keep us posted.

Yeah, they, they do sometimes.

Next one.

Jackson, Turdy Lou, Asteric, Troutskin, Lou.

Longtime listener, I truly think of you, girl, is as part of my family.

I listen so often.

Thank you.

I need your help.

My husband is an engineer and tells these very technical stories that seem to never end.

How do I respectfully tell him to shut the fuck up and not discuss at length these granular, detailed, horrifically specific and boring stories about work without being a bitch of a wife?

We've been married five years, together for 10.

He's a P jom in all other aspects of life.

Oh.

I think you just have to like grin and bear it.

I don't know how you could say that.

Like one, without hurting his feelings, and two, with being effective.

Like people are the way that they are.

I was just going to say men are horrific at like telling stories.

The thing is, I have the opposite issue.

Like I only get like, if I'm like, what, what's the T, what happened?

Like, I get one word.

So, you know, we all have our crosses to bear.

He was telling me a story literally yesterday about work and like both of the women like had the same name and he like wasn't distinguishing between them and I was like what the fuck are you talking about you know like I just feel like men are really shitty communicators whether they over communicate or under communicate and I think maybe it might be helpful for you to like just tell your husband like I really like feel free to tell me all these stories all the time but like I don't actually understand what you're talking about that's not what she like I don't think it's that understanding it's like she's bored to tears no i know but like and also if he takes more time to explain like that's a longer that's worse yeah yeah i feel like you could i

some like i think you could say something you just have to accept but sometimes it could be like what's the gist or like what's about tldr t ldr me it's kind of like those friends that you have and i know you know exactly who i'm talking about when like you call them and you straight up just leave the phone and put it on mute and walk away you know but i'll see you never done that Oh my God.

Oh my God.

What are you doing?

I've never, I, well, I'm not super close with people who like tell dreadful stories because like that is a puffy game bit of mine.

I'll tell you who I do that with because like I just cannot, but that's besides the point.

Point is, um, if you have an amazing husband and this is his fatal flaw, then you probably girly have to suck it up because it could be 10,000 times worse.

I agree.

And I think it's actually very sweet that he wants to tell you every nitty-gritty shitty detail of his.

Ultimately, it's a sweet trait and that he wants to like explain these technical things so that like you understand and that you maybe even like have these conversations like while you're cooking or like doing laundry so like you can pretend you're listening, but you're not.

And you could also like be being productive.

It's not like you just like lost all these, this time.

Right.

Just sitting there on the couch like listening to granularity about engineering.

Yeah.

I mean, it would bore me to tears too.

I get it.

I would be like, shut the fuck up.

Yeah.

No, but he sounds like such a great guy.

Listen, like, would you rather this be his fatal flaw or something else?

It's true.

You know, it's so, it's, there's boring is wonderful.

You know, it is.

It's a, it's a luxury.

It is a luxury.

So, best of luck to you, too.

But, like, hang on to this one.

He sounds like a good guy.

He does, but I'm sure, you know,

it can be.

Maybe you kind of hook up with the girl who initially wrote in about football and her husband can give a granular discussion.

They can talk to each other about,

you know, all the details.

No, I'm kidding.

Yes.

Well, thank you so much, Troutskin.

It's over.

So

let everyone know where they can follow you, engage with your life if you want more trout.

I hope you do.

It would be at Olivia Ashre on Instagram.

I am not on TikTok because I am too old and I don't know how to use it.

Do you scroll on?

Do you have it like a TikTok that you consume?

Yeah, user1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10.

Yep, that's me.

100%.

But, you know, I still see the same content on Reels like two weeks later.

So is it really two weeks as someone who like does both?

I would say it's probably, it's like eight days.

And the reason why I know that is because my husband then sends me stuff and I'm like, I saw this already, you know, and it's really just usually a little over a week out.

Okay.

Yeah.

But yeah, no, Adela Biasre, like follow me if you like me.

And if you don't, you don't have to follow me.

And that's very cool.

And I respect your wishes to follow whoever you wish.

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