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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy

Friday, Friday.

Gotta get down on Friday.

Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend, Friday, Friday, getting down to Friday.

Fun, fun, fun, fun.

Looking forward to the weekend.

You know, she was really onto something when she said, fun, fun, fun, fun.

Four times the fun.

And that's exactly what I'm looking forward to this weekend.

Hey, Turtleoo, how you dern?

I'm dern well.

You look gorgeous.

Do I?

Finally wearing the birthday gift that I got got you years and years ago, perhaps the most money I've ever spent on a birthday gift and one that she wears the least.

Less than a year ago.

It's a shirt from the gap.

You got it for me

for my last birthday, so it's been less than a year.

I love this necklace and I always like think to wear it.

I always like try to wear it, but I don't know, something always comes up.

The last time I wore it on the show was like one day my video was out of focus and like no one could see it.

Kind of cursed.

So hopefully, everything goes well today.

What did you say about a shirt from the gap?

That's what you're going to do next year.

Oh, I thought you were like saying something about my shirt today.

Like, no, you look so gorgeous.

Your hair is up.

It's a Friday, and Jackson Clerd are back together.

I mean, what's better than that?

Especially coming out of like a sickening week for the toast, in my opinion.

Sickening week for the toast.

All of our favorite things.

One, short week.

Two, Cody Rigsby.

Three,

Teja Sorbo.

Four, Jack's twice original recipe on the show.

What could be better?

No, literally nothing.

I have glowing reviews, tens, tens, tens across the board for everyone who showed up this week.

Cody Rigsby was a dream.

Like, I was obsessed with him, like, actually, like, like a friend crush.

I, like, at the end, I was like, let me know if you ever want to get drinks.

He was like, yeah, like, sure.

I've met you once, sure.

And then Paige, I feel like I called you yesterday, just raving about Paige.

And this is what I've learned through just the maternity leave process and just having guest co-hosts.

It's like, I'm really hesitant now moving forward to have someone on who's not a podcaster because, you know, people are going to say this is like a crazy thing to say.

Podcasting is a skill.

It is a talent and it needs to be honed.

And Paige is the perfect example of that.

I feel that way about Hannah too.

She's just the perfect podcaster.

She's so good at talking and listening and creating new conversations, going on tangents, making good points.

Like it's a skill and I stand by that.

And it's not a slight at anyone who's ever come on the toast who doesn't have a podcast, but I feel like it's a guaranteed good episode when i'm podcasting with a podcaster yeah and also there is a very big difference between like being a co-host filling in for me and being a guest on the show like when you are a co-host you're here to work kind of it's not just like all about you and your answer question and answer and you don't have to like give

yeah but i do feel like the line is blurred when it's someone who is would be a guest, a great guest, but they're also coming to do the fast five.

Yeah, no, and what I've learned and maybe gotten a a little comfortable with is like the idea of having, because I'm going to LA in a few weeks

when you're still on maternity leave.

And I want to get some people on who are obviously like guest co-hosts.

But I also am comfortable with the idea of like, maybe if I get someone who's not like a podcaster, but who's like promoting something and is like a celebrity, maybe not making them do the fast five with me, but just doing like what everyone else does, like a podcast interview.

Yeah.

Kind of how I did with like Jay Shetty and Taylor Lautner last time I was in LA.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

It depends on the person.

I understand that.

So I'm excited to be here back with you after such a great week.

I was kind of like out on a school night last night.

I got dressed and stayed alert.

And even though you did not find what you were looking for.

Yeah, I really thought I was going to see Taylor Swift out and about last night.

I just, I feel like she's in New York.

The city has like this energy to it where you could tell she's landed.

And I went to, you know, a local hotspot of hers.

She was not there, but it didn't diminish from the amazing time I had finally meeting.

I can't believe I never met.

We talk about Rach Parcel literally all the time on this podcast.

I just feel like, and we talk all the time, like we DM and we text.

I just didn't, like, I didn't think I put together that I've never actually met her and her sisters until I was on my way to dinner.

I'm like, oh my God, this is so crazy.

We had the best time.

I'm so jealous.

I know.

I'm sorry.

It's okay.

I'm glad you had a great time and you recapped me of all the fun.

Yeah, I called Jackie from the cab home.

It was me, Margo, Emily, Rach, and Amy.

Amy.

And it was just fabulous.

And it's so funny because I feel like I sat down and I had like so many questions for them about just like Mormon culture living in Utah.

And they also came with a thousand questions about like Jewish culture living in New York.

They're like, you grew up here?

Like so many different questions.

And it was really honestly an exchange of information, which is my favorite type of conversation.

Yep.

It's an exchange of information.

Nothing more nefarious than that.

Is Bruno barking?

Is someone breaking into your home?

No, I think I heard the doorbell, but you'll hear the barking, but I don't think the podcast, the listeners will hear it.

That's because I use a sure microphone that is sure to only pick up what I'm saying, hopefully.

Hopefully.

Sometimes it picks up the trucks.

So I was just like, and Bruno has a Bruno has a bark that's unlike, he's not like other dogs.

No, Bruno has a bark that's like four times his size.

Yeah, it's, it'll go to the center of your brain.

But that's mommy's angel, Stry Sams.

Roo, roo, roo, roo, roo, roo.

Well, sometimes he gets into like his cute baby bark where he's like,

I'm so small, tiny, and scared.

Yeah, he's kind of looking for attention.

And then sometimes he's like,

He's like, don't you come knocking down my door.

He's giving guard dog.

He's giving guard dog.

He has like so many loved ones that he needs to protect.

That I understand.

Mm-hmm.

So it was just amazing getting to meet, you know, they say never meet your heroes, but I did and I survived and it was amazing.

Yeah, a lot I get to meet a lot of heroes through this line of work.

Yeah.

And most of the time, it's great.

Yeah,

I agree.

So I wonder why they say that.

I wonder who their heroes were.

Obviously, not the sisters Parcel.

No, like who were they talking to?

Obviously not Frank Itanya.

Obviously not Frank.

Actually, thank you for reminding me.

Frank Itanya was in my dream.

What was he up to?

I think there, okay, do you remember, guys?

Remember that episode, my big fat gypsy wedding?

The episode?

On TLC?

No, no, do you remember that TV show on TLC?

My big fat gypsy wedding?

Basically, it was about gypsy culture, which I was unfamiliar with, and how their weddings are like these crazy spectacles.

They wear like 400-pound dresses, and their hair like Teresa's at her wedding, but times five.

But almost without fail, every single episode, an enormous brawl breaks out on the street about with like a cousin and an in-law, and it ends up into like a beatdown.

That's how it ends up.

And there was a beatdown on the side of the street with like the cast of Real House Size of New Jersey, and Frank and I were there just kind of like breaking it up.

That's so you guys.

I feel like that could happen.

Yeah.

Was it a gypsy wedding or you're just like making that comparison?

No, it wasn't a gypsy wedding, but visually it was very similar to the art of a brawl at a gypsy wedding.

Got it.

Okay, cool.

I'm actually been very interested in gypsy culture because really?

Yes, because I was watching

Fury Family.

I forget what their show is called.

At Home with the Furies.

And they're gypsies.

And he calls himself the Gypsy King.

It's like his whole thing.

Oh my God.

So the like Tommy's family is Gypsy.

Tommy's family is Gypsy.

And his older brother, who's the big wrestler, Tyson Fury, he's the Gypsy King.

Wrestling Jackie, that's really offensive.

It's like boxing.

Oh,

that's really offensive.

Sorry.

I'm still learning a lot about the sport, obviously.

And

I'm open to listening and learning and doing better.

Doing better.

Yeah.

I really am.

So he's the big boxer and him and his wife are gypsies.

They have like a big gypsy family.

His dad and you learn a lot about their culture from the show.

So that's very interesting.

I should watch My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.

You 100% should.

There was a time in my life where that was my favorite show.

It's so crazy and it's so good.

And so interesting.

I did not know they were gypsies.

Yeah, I didn't know either.

And so Tommy is gypsy.

And so him and Molly, like, we're talking about some of the gypsy things that they will incorporate into their life, some of the things that they won't.

And you know what's even more interesting?

The band, the Gypsy Kings,

I don't think they're gypsy.

And does Tyson Fury have an beef?

Or, you know, a warm spot in his heart?

Or do they have like trademark issues?

And gypsy is one of those words that, like, when you say too many times, garage, it starts to sound weird.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This makes me feel like you're.

Bambooleo.

Bamboo.

Gypsy toasters.

Comment below.

LMK, let us know about your culture.

Let us know about gypsy representation in popular media.

What do you think about Tyson?

What do you think about the Gypsy kings?

I'm sure they like Tyson, and I'm sure they don't like my big fat gypsy wedding.

I'm sure.

That's what also we were talking about at dinner last night.

There really are so many similarities in just like Mormon culture and Jewish culture, like family.

They were like, what do you do at temple?

I'm like, it's exactly what you do at Shul.

I mean, at church.

And Rachel's like, I know so much about Judaism from the toast because I listen every day.

I'm like, I know so much about Mormonism because I'm a stamp.

Yeah.

And and you guys also have like things in the culture that

like you frown upon and you think like reflects your religion poorly.

Yes, yes, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like there are things that's what, yeah, we were talking about like things in media.

Like I think shows on Netflix like Unorthodox and My Unorthodox life are like so damaging and like a really poor representation of my culture.

And I don't, I don't

claim those shows.

Like I think they're full of lies.

And I'm sure, you know, like they have the things of their own like that too yeah did they mention anything about real housewives of salt lake city um they did they were like

it's good they they love bravo so like they enjoyed the show i don't think they would ever be on it and i think like their take was that when the show came out like Those weren't like, it's really good and all those women are really interesting, but those weren't like the obvious choices for people being selected

in the landscape of socialites in Utah.

Understood.

They were like surprised.

They had never heard of most of the women.

Understood.

Yeah.

Cool.

Well, what a fun night out in the city.

It really was.

We missed you dearly.

I miss you guys.

But I'll be seeing you soon.

You guys, next week, the week after next,

I'm coming to New York.

Camper and Counselor is coming out on Tuesday, October 10th.

Hey, Jack, sorry, what's Camper and Counselor?

The Camper and the Counselor is a children's book that I have written.

It's my first stab in the literary world, and I think it's a really, really good one.

No, and like you're making waves in the literary world.

Making waves in the literary world, making waves amongst the children.

You can pre-order the book now.

It comes out October 10th and it is so good.

I was reading it last night to Harry and I just kept getting more, more.

That's like more.

That's my equivalent of a standing ovation.

More.

More, more.

I was like, really?

Me?

No.

No, I'm shy.

All I have to do is close my eyes and I can read the whole book, you know?

Yeah.

And it's really a a visual experience.

It is a visual experience.

The illustrations are so beautiful, colorful.

They're really a feast for the child's eyes and the caretaker reading the book.

The rhyming is on point.

There's no almost rhymes.

That was something when I was writing the book, like the first draft had a lot of almost rhymes where it was like

words that sound really similar, but they're not like 100% rhymes or even like friends rhymed with end.

No, it's got to be friend and end.

I agree.

And there are no almost rhymes.

Every rhyme is a 100% fit.

The iambic pientameter,

not a beat is missed.

No, if you have like a little bit of OCD, some children's books can be fucking infuriating.

Like just rhyme, bitch.

Yeah.

And your book scratches the itch perfectly.

Thank you.

There are some children's books where there's always like, there's one sentence that I always kind of like.

Edit can't either edit or I like can't figure out the beat.

Yeah, no, the beat in a children's book is such an important factor that I don't think enough authors, not to like come for other children's authors, but I don't think they take it seriously enough.

And you did.

Yeah, because we're so musically inclined.

The beat is so important to us.

No, and music, and I'm being like actually serious now, like music and rhythm and beats are so like such a huge part of like kid culture.

Like they're, every toy has a song.

Every show has a song.

Like music and kids is like really an important friendship.

And I think the literary world has forgotten that.

Music and children go together like Jackson Claude.

Like peanut butter and jelly.

That's so us.

I literally love a peanut butter and jelly sandwich right now.

That's like one thing I'll never stop eating.

I've been eating it since I was a kid and I'll be eating it till the day I die.

Yeah.

It's like I go through phases with formula.

It is.

Like I go through phases with food.

You know, there's a lot of shit I ate as a kid I would never eat now.

But like peanut butter stands the test of time.

peanut butter and jelly and like i could see myself in the nursing home like kicking it with a pbj yeah

okay i'll make sure to bring you one

so you won't be in a nursing home with me where the hell will you be

i don't know i've got like plans big plans if i go down you're going down too honestly i feel like nursing homes are like frowned upon it's like kind of like the last

resort for a lot of people.

No, not me.

If my sisters are coming with me, like we're lighting the place up, bitch.

It has to be a nice one, not one where like, you know, the nurses like are

elder abuse is so real.

And I get that's why like why nursing homes have a bad rap.

But like, a nice facility, perhaps in like a warm, you know, Florida suburb, like, sign me up, bitch.

Like, we could do pickleball.

Like, our days are so, our days are our own.

Yeah.

Well, I think that what you're describing sounds like a senior living.

Yeah, more, more like a retirement community.

You're right.

Cause a nursing home, I guess, is more like bedpan.

More like bedpan.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah, no, okay.

A retirement facility, I would love.

Only if all you guys came with me.

Yeah, I'm down.

We could still podcast from the retirement community.

And we will.

Even if it's just for the community.

And you know, like, I feel like

the

crux of a retirement facility is like they plan a million activities a day.

It's like, there's bingo, there's tennis, there's singles night.

Like, I love activities.

It's kind of like camp.

It is.

It is camp.

I wonder if they have bonfires.

I wonder if they have the camera and the counselor.

They should.

For the grandkids who come to visit.

The grandkids.

So if you have grandkids and you're listening, you've got to get camper and counselor.

Pre-order it today.

Amazon, Talk Shop Live, Barnes and Noble, Books a Million, Indiebound, Trulia, wherever you pre-order your books, it's going to be amazing.

I'm so excited for people to read it.

Like, that's what I'm so excited for.

It's like the way I felt when I like read it for the first time when it was like complete.

I'm so excited for people to have that feeling and to like get that feedback.

I seriously can't wait.

Yeah, when you were done with it, you FaceTimed me.

I'm like, not me literally getting teary-eyed on FaceTime over a children's book.

I was like, this is, it's magic in a book.

Yeah.

And now that I've read it probably 3,000 times, I like forget that initial feeling, you know?

Yeah, it's worn off a little bit.

But then every few days if I like come back to it, I'm like, oh my God, this is so precious.

And not to make everything about

me,

but I really, obviously, I want this book to be successful because I want you to have success.

I love you.

But mostly because it creates an opportunity for you to write a second one that's not inspired by Snitch, but inspired by me.

Yeah.

And so if you guys love Claudia and you want to see her get everything she wants in this world, please pre-order my book because the chances of then me writing a sequel about Turdi's Great Adventures.

Like if the book flops, you're not going to do it again.

Yeah.

I guess that's how that works.

Yeah.

So we need it not to flop so I can get what I want.

Yeah.

yeah and so would you want like a total new world like turdy's great adventures or do you want to join the bunk no bitch i'm on my own and i wanted to do better than counselors like if it comes to the point where you do write a second book and it is inspired by me and like the character's name is like trudy or turdy like we'll figure out we'll figure out semantics

i know unless it's a book about potty training even still like i don't I think that's a bit of a stretch.

Even choosing to keep her name Counselor Snitch was a choice.

Yeah.

Okay, maybe Trudy Lou.

I want that.

Thankfully, we have that voicemail and now you're Trudy Lou.

Yes.

So I want Trudy Lou's Adventures to be like its own thing and it has to outsell the camper and the counselor, even though like a second book never outsells a first.

I don't know.

They've never seen Trudy Lou.

They haven't.

By the way, I wanted to ask you, are there any stories that I spoke about with Cody or Paige that you want to give your take on?

Like that you weren't able to?

Question.

I was actually looking at all the stories that you guys discussed.

I haven't actually, it's right here.

Are you gonna visit the airbnb of shrek swamp i would love to where is it located scotland

in the rolling hills of scotland sounds beautiful magical yeah i i saw such a funny tweet being like

i really don't appreciate them glamorizing his swamp when he was led to live in a swamp because of bigotry

Like it's it's not cool.

It's actually a fire point.

Yeah, but it's also giving you

giving bloom where you're planted

that's exactly what shrek did that's exactly what shrek did he made the most like he was driven out he was forced to live in a swamp now we're glamorizing it but let's not forget like what a swamp truly is and he made the most and he bloomed where he was planted and it became like the hottest spot in town yeah

it's beautiful we could all learn a little something from shrek

There's so many lessons.

That's just one of them.

Yeah.

So that is really exciting.

I don't have the bandwidth to go to Scotland, but if I did, I would go.

That would be your first stop.

And, oh, what's the Courtney's baby name that they're saying is the name?

They're saying it's going to be like they think that they accidentally slipped it on social media and that the baby's name is Rocky.

So cute.

I hope it is.

So cute.

I kind of like it.

Rocky Bart.

Also,

by the way, do we have any Kardashian stories today?

We do not.

Okay, did you watch the first episode?

No, did you?

I did.

I'm desperate to watch it, but I am plowing through the new Redheads book.

We're reading The Fourth Wing, and I just want to say, quick Redheads plug, this is the buzziest book of the year, The Fourth Wing.

I'm sure you've heard of it, Rebecca Yaros.

It's like fantasy.

Snitch chose it.

And we were so curious to be like, what is this book that's capturing the nation?

Especially it's about like dungeons and dragons, you know?

Right.

So good.

And it's smut.

I haven't gotten to the smut yet, but apparently

the smut is smutting.

I feel like I'm about to hit smut because like I got a kiss, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

but i did watch kardashians and there while there was a lot to talk about it was truly so boring like i was in shock they how could those two things be true because it all happened in the beginning maybe like the first 10 minutes well that's better than all at the end jackie the rest of the episode like they spent maybe 20 minutes having a guacamole making competition kendall and kylie versus kim and courtney

That's unfortunate.

Then they did like another 10 minutes because they go to Mexico and it's like whale season.

So they're whale watching from the house.

Like they're looking at the ocean from inside of the house.

Chloe screaming.

She's petrified of whales goes on this whole thing.

Like Jackie, it was really bad.

Wow.

Do you think that they felt like they could put all that crap in because they gave you 10 juicy minutes?

Like maybe and those 10 juicy minutes like were worth it.

I had seen it already on TikTok because I wanted to be prepared for the toast yesterday.

But then I'm like, oh, well, if that happened at the beginning, like let's see what else the episode was about.

Ben was watching it with me.

He was like, I cannot believe this.

Like, it was so bad, like, for real.

And honestly, like reading a bunch of stories about the episode to prepare for the toast and then like seeing clips on TikTok, it was enough.

Like, I didn't, like, moving forward, if something cheesy happens, like, I think that's enough for me.

Um,

but I ended up on this uh side of TikTok.

Everyone was like debunking it.

I had the, I watched his video of like a therapist breaking down the whole conversation.

She's like a family therapist and she made a bunch of good points.

For For the most part, like everyone's on Team Courtney, which is so crazy because I feel like that's never the case.

But they're now just all, everyone's so interested in how did we get here with Kim and Courtney?

Like, what's really going on?

And I had heard a lot of people like rumors.

They thought like at one point Travis and Kim had hooked up.

And I'm like, they definitely didn't.

But I had known that there was stuff in his memoir about Kim.

And I watched it.

I watched this video where she broke down like everything he wrote about Kim.

And like, honestly, it's weird.

That's weird.

he he says like he was in love with her and he was dating Paris Hilton and they took a trip together to Amsterdam and Paris brought Kim who was like her friend at the time and he was immediately just taken by Kim he went out of his way to see her would follow her around and he was like you know I thought and her sex tape had just come out and he wrote in the book he's like I mean I thought because of her tape like maybe we would whatever but it was so different.

I controlled myself.

I was such a gentleman.

I saw something in her.

Like it was, it wasn't just a mention.

It was like a whole thing.

And he really wanted to date her, but he ended up trying one last time with Shanna Moekler to like get back together for their family and how it just like wasn't meant to be with him and Kim, but he was fully in love with her.

And they hung out a bunch.

Like when they got back from Amsterdam, they spent Fourth of July together.

They like did a million things together.

It was, it's weird.

That's weird.

And it's like, if they hung out a bunch like that, then they've at least smooched.

And Jackie, he wrote that book.

So he wrote exactly what I just regurgitated 10 years, maybe eight years after that trip to Amsterdam.

So it's like something he still was holding on to in 2015.

Okay.

And the book came out in 2015.

That was my next question.

Cause now it's like, then he got together with Courtney five years after that.

It's a, it's enough time.

Yeah.

And I do think like

people

change.

And I don't think that he like still holds a candle for Kim, but that is

weird.

I'm holding a lot of tension in my jaw.

I just wanted to know if anybody saw like what I just did on camera, they're going to be like, oh my God, Claudia's on Adderall.

Like, I'm not.

My jaw is fucking killing me.

I think it's the weather.

Weather like affects my tension.

Why so tense?

I don't know.

I'm feeling good.

It's a Jackson Clerd episode.

We're about to rock this bitch.

We're about to rock the stage at Arrowhead.

So I don't know.

And it's Friday.

I know.

Hmm.

What do you got going on this weekend?

Oh, you're going to the Jets game?

I'm going to the Jets game.

And given the weather, I don't know if anybody knows.

It's like crazy weather in New York.

I almost didn't even come in today.

Like flash flood warning, they closed all the trains into the city.

Like the streets are flooded.

So I'm wearing my moon boots and I'm running home after this.

I don't plan on leaving the house or doing anything until Sunday and hopefully the weather clears up by Sunday.

Oh yeah, what if the field is like Shrek swamp?

Because I got to see Travis rock the stage at MetLife.

You actually do?

You know what it sounds like?

A chili.

A chili.

I'm so mad at myself.

I made a chili on Saturday with Ben.

We ate it together.

No, I sat in bed and he did the whole thing.

Saturday we ate it.

Sunday, I had leftovers again.

And then Monday was Yom Kippur.

And then like Tuesday, what, like the rest of the week, I was just kind of bouncing back from Yom Kippur and eating everything I could to acknowledge my free will.

And I have this huge tub of chili that I didn't freeze.

And I'm going to have to throw it out.

It's so wasteful.

I'm so annoyed.

It was like an amazing chili.

That's upsetting.

I think I might try for a chili this weekend too.

Chili's a great thing with, you know, because I can't really like dedicate that I'm going to have how much time to cook, but it's like I could chop and then an hour later I could come back and

see her.

And then decide to do your own.

Yeah, it's, it's, you can do it on your own timeline.

Chili is very understanding and very forgiving.

Understanding and forgiving.

And because a chili, like you just throw everything in, and if it's not good, just add more cumin, like you're fine.

Yeah.

And how bad could it be?

It really can't be bad unless like your meat is spoiled or something.

You know what I mean?

Like those flavors together, they're harmony.

It'll take you to Flavor Town.

It will.

So that's my goal for the weekend.

Make a chili.

Take a a trip to Flavor Town, USA.

Aye aye.

Should we dive in, girl?

I think that we should dive in, too.

I agree.

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Our first story is a little update on Joe and Sophie.

A couple things have come out.

One, the name of their second daughter has been revealed through this process,

which I'm always interested in celebrity baby names.

We knew that their first daughter's name is Willa and their second daughter is named Delphine, we've just learned.

It's they're like, I think branding wise, because Sophie's like queen of the north, UK queen, like they're so on brand and they jive well together, like Willa and Delphine.

Like they sound like, you know, mystical fairies in a far-off land.

Like I actually think those are both really excellent names.

Excellent names.

I love them both, and I love them together.

And they're very unique, but they're still names, which I think is so important in celebrity culture.

You need this.

This is important, but sometimes we're just making things up.

You need to name your child a name.

It's only fair to the child.

To give them a name.

That is a name.

Kids can be cruel.

Yeah, these are beautiful names.

And that was like, you know, a fun tidbit.

Though I'm sure I guess it came out from the documents.

Yeah, which is like a terrible way for everyone to know.

Especially since they didn't want us to know, so I do feel bad, like, knowing.

I also don't think I like fully put together that we didn't know the name of their second child.

I did, just because I'm like hung up on kid names.

Yes.

So hard.

So hard.

This was a success.

And then also, um,

reports are coming out about what Joe heard Sophie say on the ring camera.

I almost chose that as a story on Thursday, but it was like this big bombshell.

We know what Joe saw on the ring.

And then it was just like not giving.

It was not.

It's what, it just is that she was bad-mouthing him, which is like half of an answer, but it shows that like, if it's true, that it's not like he saw her cheating on him or doing something crazy.

He just allegedly heard her talking shit about him, which is so fucking awkward.

It is,

but like,

I'm sure Ben talks shit about me.

Like, I talk shit about him.

Have he, have you ever listened to this podcast?

No, that's that's true, but like, I'm sure it was, it was not good.

I'm sure it was bad and

like gave him an indication of like how she feels.

I'm sure it was bad, you know?

I have such mixed feelings on ring cameras.

Like, I've seen so many, so much amazing footage of like,

you know, people getting proposed to, it catching just like life moments that are amazing, it being so helpful, of course, in a time of need.

But then there's like,

I saw, you know someone in who lives in travis kelsey's neighborhood got a like a moment of taylor leaving travis's house and entering a car on the curb heading to the game and it was just like so intimate and like honestly an invasion of privacy because they like posted it everywhere and i feel like it can it can be a little bit invasive yeah when it's not your property like when and it's not your family but you know how many times like i've walked to a party at someone's house like knocked on the door and said to ben like oh we better get out of here in like 10 minutes Like, what if there was a ring?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, that.

I don't live in the suburbs, so I'm not accustomed to being like, Ben, let's shut our mouths while we're walking up to the house.

But you have to.

I'm sure that you would get accustomed to that.

And that's fair game because, like, you're at the person's house.

So, like, you have to pay attention.

But it's like when a neighbor catches someone doing something and it's like, that's not your business.

It's not your business.

But also on the flip side, like, they could catch something.

I remember that documentary about that asshole who killed his wife and two kids.

What was it called?

Like America's sweethearts or something.

Yeah, Chris.

Chris, something.

Yes, the neighbor and the footage that they had on their home cameras was instrumental in figuring out that it was Chris.

Yeah, I think based on what I see go around, like the benefits of.

The rewards outweigh the risk.

Yeah, especially in your own personal life,

having...

cameras, you capture things that you need to capture, but also like the neighbor capturing you.

Like I think in general, it would be helpful, not harmful.

Right.

I mean, how would you have known you had a possum issue had it not been for your stellar home cameras?

Is it a possum?

I don't know.

I can't look at a picture of it.

Like oversized rodent.

I mean, even like mice.

Oversized rodents, like that.

It's genuinely too much for me.

There is a critter that's always at the front of my house.

I don't know what it is.

And it like triggers your alarms.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know if it's a possum.

I can't even Google pictures because like

this animal is the ugliest, nastiest thing I've ever seen in my life.

I thought it was an armadillo.

I was going to say it was giving armadillo.

It's not of this world.

It's so disgusting.

He doesn't get every night, but when he does,

it sends a shiver down my spine.

Armadillos are truly not for this world.

Okay, let me describe what, and maybe someone could tell me.

Ugh, I can't even think about him.

I'm sorry.

He has like a cone-shaped face.

And then his body is like that of a wiener dog.

Oh.

Like low and long and cylinder.

Cylindrical.

Cylindrical.

And the cylindrical goes all the way up to the face where it turns into a cone.

And does he have a tail?

The tail, I've not like gotten up close and personal, but I do think it's like a rat tail.

Hairless.

Oh my God.

Like a hairless, fleshy tail.

Actually becoming like dizzy, for real.

Like, I'm woozy.

Imagine how I feel.

He walks among us.

Jackie, not me, like, ripping Chloe Kardashian for like her fear of whales, but like

this is different from being like, you know, 20 feet away.

You're like a thousand miles away.

Corey Gamble was like, calm down.

He's not coming in the pool.

Like.

Yeah, calm down.

He's not coming in your house.

But I know you're

dangerously close to your home.

You have just like sympathy pangs for me.

100%.

That's so.

How did we get here?

How did we get here?

Ring camera.

Ring camera.

How did we get here?

How did we get out?

We need like a little button on our soundboard where like we go on such a crazy tangent and like while we're talking about it, one of us realizes how far we've steered from the conversation.

We press the button.

I love that.

Can we actually do it?

We say that all the time about stuff.

Also like Hannah Montana transitions.

Like can we do stuff like that?

Why can't we use stuff like that?

Why not us?

We completely can.

I just believe

we have had this, like the sound system we use, we've had for a a couple of years, and we programmed like the crunch

on it so many years ago.

I have no idea how to program sounds on it.

I'm sure

Google search.

Okay, if any, it's a simple search.

If anybody knows how to upload pre-recorded sounds to a roadcaster, let me know, and I'll do it.

We could also do those things in post, but that's so not.

It doesn't hit the same.

Yeah, we need to be able to dance to it.

How do we get here?

How do we get out?

We used to give them something to see.

Oh, baby, look at us now.

Oh, she's getting groovy.

She's getting groovy.

She's swimming.

How do we get here?

How do we get out?

We used to give them something to see.

Baby, look at us now.

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right now speaking of celebrities doing things carrie washington calls out shaq for sliding into her dms so andy cohen had um carrie washington on watch what happens live and he asked who's the most famous person to slide into your dms wanting to connect as a friend or otherwise and she said shaquille o'neal no by the way a ship she said he's a big scandal fan that's why because i do think shaq is married she was on the show to promote her new memoir, Thicker Than Water, and she shared that.

Oh, Shaq would read her memoir.

Yeah, she shared that Shaq likes to make jokes referencing the plot of her show Scandal, which ran for seven seasons.

He's always like, quote, I'll do anything for command.

Oh, that's funny.

Really funny.

Then she also shared that the most famous person on her phone is Oprah, and the most recent celebrity to text her was Jennifer Anniston.

But I feel like Carrie Washington is like that famous that you like, duh, duh.

She hangs out with Oprah and Jennifer Aniston.

Yeah, no, neither of those things are shocking to me.

You know, I don't watch scandal, but they have like a huge fan base.

And I sometimes end up on like scandal talk where they just like relive moments between Tony Goldwyn, the president, and Olivia Pope.

But one of my favorite, like, viral moments from the scandal fandom that I don't, like, I'm not even a part of, they did like an Instagram live, I think, during COVID, just to like give people something to do.

And they were talking all about the show, and it was like so cute, everyone was dying for it.

And she goes, Tony, like, what was your favorite season?

Or no, she said it exactly like this.

What's your favorite season?

And he goes, probably fall.

And they're like dying of laughing, like, can't stop.

And she's like, no, of this show.

And they're like, it's literally silent laughter for 30 seconds.

It's honestly one of the funniest clips on the internet.

That's good stuff.

Yeah, it's good.

It's giving mug.

It's giving mug, people answering questions improperly.

It's giving April 25th all you need is a light jacket.

No, that's like one of my favorite comedic tropes.

Yeah.

It's so innocent.

But it has to be accidental.

Of course.

Yeah.

What is your favorite season?

Probably fall.

Honestly, says.

Certainly fall.

Chilly season.

You have the anticipation of the holidays, but it's not over yet.

My birthday, sweater weather, fall fashion.

There's nothing better.

Okay, tell me if this is like correct rankings of the seasons because honestly, I have to like 100%.

Although I will say the last two are interchangeable if you want.

Fall,

spring,

summer, winter.

I think fall, spring.

I'm a winter girl.

Winter.

I said that.

I said the last two are interchangeable.

Yeah, the first two are certain.

I also think it depends on your body type.

Yeah, but

like, you know?

100%.

Like, I'm not looking forward to summer.

No, by the way, it depends on where you're at in your health journey, whether summer will be third or fourth.

Yeah, and whether honestly fall would be first or second, because if you're like, you just got snatched, you can't wait for spring to sprung.

No, so I will say, like, third and fourth are obviously interchangeable, but like, so are first and second.

Yeah, but with each other, not with the others.

Yes.

But that's also because third and fourth are both the extremes.

And first and second are both the pleasant.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Like the median vibes.

Median vibes.

But you're right.

I guess it can't be universal truths because we're all on different journeys.

And we all weigh different amounts.

It's true.

Yeah.

And we all weigh different amounts throughout the year.

Because it's letting me say this.

It's not just like me comparing myself to others.

It's me comparing myself to myself and like where I'm at in my life.

But let me say this.

As like a former fat person and like temporarily thin person, emphasis on the temporary.

I still don't have warm feelings towards summer.

Like I don't like to sweat.

I don't like to bare my legs.

I don't like to shave my legs.

I don't even really have like skinny legs.

I have like jelly cellulite.

Like I don't know if maybe it's a weight thing.

Maybe it's like a confidence thing.

Maybe, but you do like to swim.

I love to swim, but I find like during the summer, and I stand by this.

Summer, like as an adult, like you're still working, it's not all that fun.

I find maybe I swim more in the winter because I'm more conscious to like plan trips.

Yeah, but I feel like maybe you would feel differently if you had a summer house, if you had somewhere to be.

But summer in the city,

I should only be so lucky.

Summer in the city, dreadful, dreadful.

So dreadful.

But other people have places places to go and they look forward to that, but not us.

Yeah.

Like a goal of mine, like I don't really have like aspirations when it comes to like being a homeowner for my primary residence.

Like I don't, I actually love renting.

It's not like, I think a lot of people's goals is like to eventually own a home one day.

I, a goal of mine is to have a second home, but without having a first.

Yeah.

To have a vacation house.

Yeah.

Which we've talked about endlessly.

But we just can't ever make a decision.

like where would it even be?

We can't even get that far.

We can't even get that far, but no offense.

It's your fault because you moved.

But we could do somewhere equidistant.

Where?

North Carolina.

No, like I'm, I've never been more down for anything in my life.

Okay, so location settled.

Okay, you guys, where do people vacation in North Carolina?

That would be good for us.

Yeah, like where we can get a pool, but there's also like a cute town.

A cute town because we don't want to be like in an actual like residential neighborhood where those people live for the summer.

No,

where's the montauk of North Carolina?

Is it Myrtle Beach?

That's South Carolina.

No, but like maybe there's a lake.

I would do a lake town.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I need a pool.

Okay.

Yeah.

Let us know like what is what's the Jersey shore of North Carolina.

But by the way, because even if it's like a lake town, we could still go there in the winter.

Like

wintertime, snowy lake vibes, count me in.

Winter, spring, summer, or fall.

And if you're like a leading real estate agent in the region, please, we just need someone to do the work for us.

Opportunity, Knox.

We love working with people.

This happens after every summer.

We're like, next summer, we're doing something.

Let's do it.

Yeah.

Maybe something mountainous, smoky mountains.

Sure, but also somewhere easily accessible, like with direct flights and like no more than an hour from the airport.

Agreed.

Tennessee?

I mean, twist my arm.

Tennessee.

It's not like a summer house kind of state, you know?

But why not?

It's beautiful in the summer, according to what I see when people travel there on my Instagram.

I actually am really looking forward to the comment section on our YouTube.

So please drop a comment.

Let us know.

Where should you get a second home that we can both enjoy?

Please let us know.

Where should we summer?

Are you ready for our next story?

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You're like, you will never be ready for this story because you're never going to care.

But I think there's people out there, Olivia Ashre, who care.

In sync, reunite with a pop banger called Better Place, their first song together in over 20 years.

By the way, I care.

You do?

Like,

to an extent.

Okay, InSync is back.

They've released a song called Better Place.

The new song is off the soundtrack for the upcoming movie Trolls Band Together, which dropped on Friday after the group began teasing it.

So it's like not like In Sync is Back Together.

Justin Timberlake's big movie, Trolls.

I guess they have a new movie coming out about a band.

So Justin Timberlake's band put out a song.

It makes a lot of sense.

No, it makes a ton of sense.

And let's not forget the last song Justin Timberlake did for the movie Trolls.

I got that sunshine in my pocket.

Got that good song in my feet.

Get you waku wedo bap it.

So don't stop.

Oh, like, honestly, this is something to be excited about.

Yeah, if it's going to be that quality of music.

Right.

I didn't realize Justin Timberlake is the star of trolls, which makes perfect sense.

No, but also Kelly's in it.

and the song she released is so good it's broken and it's beautiful oh

no they kind of kill it soundtrack wise in terms of the trolls franchise and i expect nothing less from in sync yeah i didn't listen to the song this morning you know i was on my um spotify release radar and i scrolled right past it But I'm glad that all of this hype led to something real.

Yeah, people thought it was going to be a tour and I think they were like enormously let down.

I feel like if this song does well

and Justin, you know, kind of falls back into favor with the public, because he's a little out of favor.

A little.

Oh, right, a lot.

And not even just because I don't like him, but between

Britney and the hand-holding.

Janet Jackson.

Janet Jackson.

It hasn't been a good few years for Justin Timber, like with all these documentaries about the 90s.

Somebody in Hollywood decided like we're going to release a bunch of documentaries that all make Justin Timber like look bad about various topics like where Justin isn't even the subject the Super Bowl Janet Jackson won of course the Britney one they just they did a bunch of documentaries about a certain period of time and Justin Timberlake it was a bad few years for him yeah

so this yeah they couldn't they couldn't like just launch a tour out of nowhere like that's kind of reckless unclear if there's like a crazy demand for it so I think this is them dipping their toe in the idea of like potentially working together in the future I think they look at Backstreet Boys and I don't think you know they thought backstreet boys would be killing it in their reunion era for as long as they are.

They had the Vegas residency.

They have a tour that's like really popular.

They really, Backstreet Boys, everybody put their egos aside and they decided, listen, let's make a living for our families.

And that's what they're doing.

Yeah.

I don't think that Justin could do what the Backstreet Boys are doing.

No, because they really, they did all put their egos aside.

Humble pie was eaten.

Humble pie, like.

Especially Nick Carter.

But what else do they have going on, honestly?

Exactly.

They, no, they did the work because they realized options were limited.

Yeah.

But so I think they'll, they'll take the temperature of

this song, maybe another one, maybe a tour.

That's what I, what I hope to happen if there is like an in-sync renaissance.

Like, I hope the energy we all collectively had for Justin Timberlake, we have for JC Shize.

Like, I feel as though he was grossly underrated in his prime.

I think vocally, you know, choreographically, he's a star.

Like, he really, I was surprised when like Justin took off in the way.

I think it really could have been JC and he's so hot.

Yeah.

But I think Justin was just more of a political animal.

100%.

And just one of my favorite things, like facts of life, is that JC Shize and Yva Longoria dated.

And I think that it was like the one true loves of both of their lives, even though I think they went on like four dates.

Yeah.

And she's like really happily married.

I know to a businessman, Bo Mogul edition.

Right.

I think he owns like L'Oreal.

Amongst other things.

Yeah.

So she's okay.

Yeah.

And also, you know, who else kind of crushed it in the businessman Bo field?

Who?

Selma Hayek.

Her husband is like owner of L VMH.

Oh,

the world.

The world.

Like, that's asked.

Like, that's goals.

Like, that's really a role model we could and should all look up to.

I completely agree.

No, that actually, like,

that is the most businessman bow of them all.

There's no bigger businessman.

Salma Hayek is a big man on earth.

Yes, it's true.

Salma Hayek and Yvonne Goria are in the Businessman Bo Hall of Fame.

Hall of Fame.

So is Miranda Kerr.

Yeah.

You know what?

Let me start a list.

Hold on.

Yes.

Because this is important.

Yeah.

Okay, good.

And I'm going to look up, like, I feel like I'm forgetting a couple major players in the business.

No, but we're going to figure it out.

And there's a lot of people who are like businessmen, whatever, but it's not the Hall of Fame.

No, no, no.

I'm talking Hall of Fame.

Salma Hayek.

Who was the second one you just said?

Oh, Elon Goria and Miranda Kerr.

Yeah, okay, wait.

There's literally a list.

South China Morning Post.

Six celebrities who married billionaire businessmen.

Oh, well, they're divorced now, but Janet Jackson married that prince who gave her $100 million to have a baby.

Oh, that's nice, but that doesn't like resonate with me.

Okay, I don't know who Jamie Gertz is.

And is the prince a businessman?

No, but it counts.

Yeah.

Miranda Kerr is on this list.

Wow, I've never heard of some of these celebrities they're referring to.

Now, would you say Grimes is on this list?

No.

You wouldn't say Elon is a businessman, but oh, Hall of Fame?

They're not married or even like together.

They're separate together.

They just have children together while being separate.

They just have children together once a year.

Okay, here.

17 celebrities who married into serious money.

Salma Hayek is number one.

Miranda Kerr is number two.

Oh, you know who, but they're not married yet.

Ashley Benson is engaged to that oil heir.

Which one?

Party boy.

Brandon Davis.

Oh, right.

But I don't think of him as like a businessman.

There's the difference in marrying someone wealthy and like marrying a businessman.

No, he's an heir.

Same with a lot of people on this list.

Oh, we could have, but they're divorced now.

Killy Cuoco was married to Carl Cook.

But actually, he's also an heir.

His father invented Intuit.

A lot of these people are.

We can make a list for heirs, but that's a different list.

No, you're right.

All of these people thus thus far are heirs.

Hmm.

Janet Jackson.

Oh my God, I didn't know this.

Elle McPherson, you know, her 90s queen model, was married to billionaire real estate developer Jeffrey Soffer, who everybody for a point thought was Ben's uncle, even though Ben does have an uncle named Jeffree Soffer, not the same one, who owns like the Fountain Blue Hotel, a huge real estate mobile, but they are no longer married.

They got divorced in 2017.

Jeffree Soffer came up on the show recently.

Why?

Ben always tells the story of the time.

No, he was in the news for something.

Oh, yes.

He was rumored to be dating Giselle.

He was rumored to be dating Giselle.

Thank you.

No, there are a punch of people on this list who might have been eligible, but they're divorced.

So the list is actually very small.

The list is small, but you know what?

All good lists are succinct.

It's so true.

Succinct.

Like there wasn't a lot on Google.

You know, it's an accomplishment to make it to this list.

It's not any old schlub.

What story were we talking about?

In sync?

How did we get here?

Justin Timberlake, JC, Eva.

Great.

Great.

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All right, what's our next story, Jax?

Our next story, a bit of a throwback.

Gypsy Rose Blanchard will be released from prison early.

So just to jog your memory, Gypsy Rose Blanchard, who was serving time in prison for her role in the murder of her mother, has been granted parole and is scheduled to be released in December, December, said Ozark's first on Thursday.

In July.

By the way, is it like a crazy take that Gypsy Rose like shouldn't be in prison?

No,

I don't think it's crazy take.

I think, you know, oh, some people feel sh she might have been justified in what she did, but like, murder's never the answer.

Murder's murder, but like what her mother did was

like psychological terrorism.

Right.

But that also could be why she only got 10 years for murder.

And she's getting out early.

And she's getting out early for good behavior, I'm assuming.

She will have served 85% of her sentence for killing her mother, who, if you guys do not remember, Gypsy was the victim of Munchausen by proxy syndrome, which is a rare form of abuse in which a guardian exaggerates or induces illness in a child for attention and sympathy.

Gypsy's mother convinced her friends, family, and community that Gypsy was a terminally ill teenager with the mind of a seven-year-old who suffered from muscular dystrophy, leukemia, and other ailments.

Additionally, Gypsy Rose alleged her mother wouldn't allow her to speak during doctors' visits and told her that if she ever tried to escape, police wouldn't believe her.

So she didn't feel like she could escape the abuse of her mother.

So Gypsy and her boyfriend at the time plotted to kill the mother, which they did, and they both,

you know, were jailed.

Yeah, I'm not shedding over tear, any tears.

I don't know.

I'm not into big true crimes.

Like, I don't know what the, what's the take on Gypsy Rose?

Like, justice for Gypsy?

Like, or put that bitch in jail?

Like, I don't know.

But I feel like based on what I know, and I watched actually the first few episodes of Joey King, and I can only see Joey King as Gypsy Rose.

Like when I saw a picture of Gypsy Rose, I'm like, where's Joey King?

Totally.

You know what I think of when I think of Gypsy Rose?

My whole perception of the situation has been so warped by the show The Politician.

All I see is Zoe Deutsch.

Yes.

Zoe Deutsch, whose character was definitely inspired by Gypsy Rose.

Yeah.

And it's like, well, when I think about that situation, I don't remember if she kills her mother.

And I'm just like, well, Zoe Deutsch's character was kind of nuts.

So that to me has like tainted the whole Gypsy Rose situation.

That's literally my only perception of it.

That's so funny.

I forgot about the show, The Politician.

That was such a good show for like so many years.

I really enjoyed it.

But you know, I could see Gypsy Rose getting out and becoming like an influencer.

People are, it's so rare that there's like a true crime saga where people, it like captures a nation and the

person is still alive

and is coming out of jail.

I feel like we become obsessed with like certain people and they're rotting in jail or they ended up dead.

This is like

real life.

It kind of reminds me of Jordan Turpin.

Oh, right.

Who is, I follow her on TikTok.

She like dances and stuff and people love her.

Like she's kind of an influencer.

You know what?

In the politician, Zoe Deutsch's character becomes an influencer.

Oh man, Elizabeth Smart is an influencer.

Yeah, but they didn't

do murder.

Anna Delvey.

No, but they're characters in nationwide in crimes that have captured a nation.

Yeah, but I feel like with no, they're not all the same.

Elizabeth Smart is not Anna Delvey.

No, but I feel like with Elizabeth Smart and Jordan Turpin, it's like so many people want to support them.

I feel like with Anna Delvey, I don't even know.

Does she have an Instagram?

I think so.

I feel like she wouldn't even have a lot of followers.

I feel like it's the media who's like props her up and makes her like this darling.

They're like, Anna Delvey's must-haves for house arrests.

It's like nobody fucking asked.

And if they cared, like, you could follow her on Instagram and she could put link her Amazon storefront.

And you know what?

People, people will buy if they want to buy and support her.

But I feel like nobody actually like is into Anna Delvey except for like the media making her somebody.

Sounds like you're suggesting that Anna Delvey is an industry plant.

Claudia, that's exactly what I'm saying.

I love that take.

I'm obsessed with that.

And here's the thing.

When the initial story about like the grifter came out, I was so fascinated.

Like I read the story.

Oh my God, we did a whole episode on Toastabout.

You guys have to read this story.

And then I moved on with my life because, like, it's not the Roman Empire.

As any normal person should.

She's not the Roman Empire.

There's not that much there there.

But they don't stop with her.

And I'm like.

Documentaries, TV shows, events.

Events, like everything.

Interviews, articles.

Podcasts.

Her show.

They're giving her a show about having dinner guests at house arrests.

Like, I don't give a shit about this girl.

Sound off in the comments.

Do you give a shit about Anna Delvey or is she an industry plant?

It's giving industry plant, I'm telling you.

No, I love that.

You're so right.

Way to think critically, Jax.

That's my specialty.

You also put your iPad down, and if I'm not mistaken, that was only the fourth story.

Yeah, I don't know.

I need to like re-watch all the times I put my iPad down.

Like, there's something about what I've just said that makes me feel like I'm done here.

Yeah, but you're not.

Am I correct?

No, you're 100% right.

I'm like, wait, she's getting comfortable.

But I think the reason why I thought it was over is because this story is giving very fifth story energy.

It is.

Wait, what was the story?

Gypsy Rose?

Gypsy Rose.

So you know what?

I look forward to seeing what sort of opportunities wait for Gypsy upon her release from prison.

Yeah, me too.

And our fifth and final story is actually not fifth story energy, but it's kind of like how I want to lead into the weekend.

But wait, also, it must be really crazy for Gypsy Rose because not only has she been in prison for 10 years, so she like doesn't know what life on the outside is like.

She was really under like permanent house arrest before that.

Like she never had a phone or a computer.

Like she probably has no idea idea what it's like to be like a normal, however old she is, like 25-year-old.

Yeah, she probably had more exposure to culture in prison.

Yeah, honestly, it probably was like a slow way to learn about, you know, TV shows.

I'm sure she watched TV in prison, a bunch of other stuff, maybe played some games,

like met people.

Like, she didn't talk to anyone.

Yeah,

it's true.

She learned her social skills.

Yeah, she's ready.

She's ready.

She's ready.

She's ready.

Our fifth and final story, as I said, not fifth story material, just how I want to go into the weekend.

Okay.

Taylor Swift is set to be at the Jets game on Saturday to watch Travis or Sunday to watch Travis Kelsey and the Chiefs take on the Jets.

So we need to wrap up the weekend talking about what we've

experienced

this week.

What's gone on in this country?

Now, totally separately, I was thinking this morning, like, I just don't know when I got to a place in my life where I was talking about so many people named Travis, Travis Barker, Travis Kelsey, Travis Scott.

Like, I just feel like it all happened at once.

I never spoke about Travis, and now here I am talking endlessly about people.

Every time I say Travis in regards to Travis Kelsey, I'm like, is that his name?

I don't know why.

It doesn't suit him.

You know what?

I agree.

Especially when we say like Taylor and Travis,

I'm like, I don't think Kelsey.

Yeah, no, I feel that.

I feel like his...

No, and when your life is your sport and you like run around with your last name on your back, like his name is Kelsey.

His name is is Kelsey 87.

Right, right.

First name, Kelsey, middle name, 80, last name, Seven.

Yeah.

Well, sources are saying she's going to be at the big game this weekend, which is, you know, amongst the reasons why Turdy will be in attendance and letting us know what's going down.

But I am just so shook, not over the fact that they're dating, which is the craziest thing, but like the way that this country has gone wild for it.

And I've really been thinking about like, how, why, how did we get here?

How did we get out?

And I feel like the Swifties and football fans are two of like the biggest communities in our country yep millions yep and they've come together i also think that a lot of football fans not to be gendered but i'm gonna be are married to swifties and this was so exciting for so many people because you know wives are used to their husbands leaving them all day sunday and

husbands are used to their wives talking endlessly about Taylor Swift and having no idea what's going on.

So like husbands, wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, cousins, like people just all around are finding common ground with two very different communities, the Swifties and football fans.

So I think everyone's leaning in even more because it's really bringing them together.

Yeah.

It's a beautiful thing.

And I think we're a country desperate for unification, for real.

We're desperate for unity.

And this is a prime example of that.

Yeah.

It's kind of a beautiful thing.

Now, of course, it makes you worry

what happens when you know

potentially it doesn't end well but i think it will never get that serious that feelings will be hurt on either side and i think yeah hopefully they can be friends because i'm like i just know they're not lasting like that i know for sure i don't know many things Have you seen his ex-girlfriend who was the winner of Catching Kelsey?

I saw today on Twitter.

She did like Entertainment Tonight.

Like it went to her home.

She's really annoying.

Yeah.

So

there's all these articles.

Travis's ex like calls Taylor a five.

Travis's ex like says that he's like a cheater.

A cheater or whatever.

And it's not Travis's ex.

It's the girl who won catching Kelsey.

And I'm pretty sure.

Such an important distinction.

Such an important distinction.

And I remember I was a fan of the show.

I watched it, I'm pretty sure, live on E.

So when she won, I was like following their relationship and there was nothing to follow.

They like were never together.

I think they like hung out the night that she won and then moved on.

So I grain of salt.

Grain of salt.

Also,

to come out and say, I'm a girl's girl.

Like I think Taylor should know that he cheated on me.

To say that to the Daily Mail is not you being a girl's girl.

It's you being a thirst monster, which I respect for sure.

Right.

But I just, but like, be honest.

I just don't think there was ever a relationship to cheat on.

Like, I, I doubt they ever reached a period of exclusivity.

But that's just what I think.

But I feel really strongly about it.

Yeah, no, they say they dated for four months, which is, by the way, in and of itself, like a fake relationship, four months.

And especially when it's TV and you were probably required to do like a bunch of press afterwards.

Like, so perhaps you were together for four months solely because of circumstance.

And maybe he didn't take it so seriously because it was a fake dating show.

Like, let's be right.

And also, like, maybe they went on a few dates over the course of four months, but they were not like boyfriend and girlfriend for four months.

I feel strongly about that.

I agree.

And it's important to make those distinctions.

Yeah.

So I don't think Taylor's losing sleep.

No, me neither.

But the girl's really annoying me.

Yeah, but wouldn't you do the same thing?

Oh my God, I would be worse.

Right.

No, I said, I understand, but she's not owning her thirsty hood.

She's pretending to be like a girl's girl.

I feel like she's like Paige.

No, and like Paige DeSorbo said on the toast yesterday, any girl who has to say she's a girl's girl is just not because if you were, we would know it and you wouldn't have to say it.

That's so true.

I've never said it about myself.

That's what she said.

People who like call themselves down to earth, like you're the worst person I've ever met.

People who actually are down to earth don't need to say it and it doesn't need to be said about them.

It just is a fact.

So true.

Yeah, she's like the guys who I know who call themselves down to earth are literally diabolical demons.

Like yeah,

You don't say it you just are I feel like she should have played this like you know Travis and I had a great time I love Taylor I feel like they'll be such a great couple and then it would be like Travis's ex supports, you know, and it would be right anything

Anything she said would have gotten picked up so the fact that she had to be negative and like jealous It's giving bitter ones like calling Taylor a five.

Oh, but

let's no, what's that about?

Let's not lie like you know, nothing in life is, you know, universal, but like Taylor Swift is a beautiful woman.

Like, let's not lie.

And if if Taylor Swift is a five, good luck to the rest of us, okay?

Six feet tall, blonde, perfect body, gorgeous face, perfect teeth, big lips.

Like, that's a five.

Oh, God, what does that make me?

She's a beautiful woman, and she should be wearing those shoes.

Yeah, because she was qualified to own them.

And that's that on that.

So that's our final episode of the week.

Hope everybody enjoyed a fabulous week, if I do say so myself.

We have another fabulous week.

Here, let me give it a little sneak peek.

Yeah, and let me know my days, please.

Yeah, yeah, we have to figure out next week.

But I have, so you're on Monday.

Oh, no, that's last week.

You're on Monday.

Oh,

October 3rd is really good.

On October 3rd, he asked me what day it was.

On October 3rd, we have, should I say?

Yeah.

Jake Shane, the octopus lover of TikTok, who is the biggest toaster, who is so funny, like has the best personality and is also just like obsessed with pop culture.

And I just, I have so many questions for him.

Wednesday, I believe Jax is back.

Yes.

Thursday, Hannah Burner.

Amazing.

Friday, ending the week with Jax.

Perfection.

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Literally nothing.

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