Lizzo: Affable or Incongruous?: Wednesday, August 2nd, 2023
- Beyoncé leaves Lizzo’s name out of lyrics amid bombshell lawsuit (Page Six) (15:37)
- Taylor Swift has paid out $55 million in bonuses to workers on her The Eras Tour (Daily Mail) (27:16)
- ‘Suits’ Sets Record for Library Shows on Streaming Charts (The Hollywood Reporter) (34:12)
- Gwyneth Paltrow lists luxe Montecito guest house on Airbnb, will have dinner with occupant (Page Six) (39:27)
- Jessie J Says She Doesn’t ‘Want To Go Back’ To Pre-Baby Figure (PEOPLE) (48:04)
- Dear Toasters Advice Segment (53:01)
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Good morning, Millennials.
Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day.
That's right, it's Wednesday, a very kind of, I would say, weekly holiday here at the toast.
It is a weekly holiday.
And the words of the snitch this morning, why isn't it Thursday?
You know, this week has really been fucking me up.
Yesterday, I thought it was Wednesday.
It's so funny how that's like a universal experience, not just like a personal.
Like, yeah, my week was kind of weird because like I flew home on a Tuesday.
So like I get why my, you know, vibes are off, but how are my vibes matching everyone else's?
Yeah, my week is thrown off too.
I don't know what day of the week it is.
And then all of a sudden, it'll be the end of the week and I'll be like, that was quick.
But that's so life.
Like, how is it on the Tuesday?
And then Friday comes.
Oh, my God.
We literally have the same conversation every morning, but then Friday comes and we're like, that like wasn't so bad.
Yeah, we made it.
We did it.
And the thing is.
How crazy was this week?
What's so crazy?
what's so crazy tell me gonna blow your mind okay every single week is the same amount it's the same length but like it's not even when we have a short week like there was still a monday
no that's kind of what's so crazy about life is you know nothing in life is guaranteed and there's so much uncertainty in life but monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday sunday is really always there for us and we should kind of find peace in that instead of fighting it you know we should embrace it yeah and like it's just crazy how the weeks could feel so different but they are all exactly the same
at the end of the day I think that that's a really good message just for humanity like we could feel so different from one another but we are the same
not only that it's a good message for life like life can feel so crazy so chaotic so uncertain but Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday is always there for you.
Yeah, I don't know that they're there for you, but like you can always count on tomorrow.
Well, yeah, well, actually, you can't count on tomorrow, which is why you should live today to the fullest.
No, yeah, maybe you can't, but like, there will be a tomorrow with or without whether you're here or not.
Stop, that's funny.
Um, so it's Wednesday, to my register.
All of that to say, it is Wednesday, feeling not totally like a Wednesday, but we're going to make it feel like a Wednesday because we have deer toasters.
And even live.
Let me continue.
Even though though we wish it was Thursday and we feel like it should be, at least it's on Tuesday.
That's true.
So there's glory in all of it.
We're making our way through the week.
And you know, there's actually a lot going on pup culture-wise, like so many more updates from this Lizzo thing that to be a toaster, it's a good day because we have lots to discuss.
It's also Wednesday, which means we do our weekly advice segment, dear toasters.
So I don't feel like if you're listening to the toast, you really have anything to complain about.
Like put that in perspective.
You know, there are weeks where, you know, we're talking about like the new Wendy's collab.
Like, we have seen Yoker Times people.
Don't shit on the New Wendy's collab.
I wasn't.
Because you know what?
The Wendy's Collab is always there for us when no one else is.
Much like
days of the week.
You can always count on a good food news collab when the celebrities are doing nothing.
No, it's true.
And like for something to be popping off during August, which is a notoriously slow month for celebrities, I just think it's important that we take a moment and, you know, acknowledge that.
Yeah.
Acknowledged.
consider it acknowledged moving on how are you
i'm amazing you know after not sleeping in my own bed for like a week getting my first night back in my own bed i say this all the time but like
if there were like the world's leading sleep scientists who all got together
and studied my sleep for a year my habits, my patterns, my dreams, like they all studied everything about my sleep patterns for like, let's say 10 years.
And then they built with the world's leading engineers a bed perfectly tailored to my every sleep need.
I'm telling you, that bed wouldn't be as good as my current bed.
Like my current bed is everything to me.
What is good about your bed?
Nothing.
It's just my bed.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
You know, it's like even the world's best bed in the world.
It's not my bed.
Yeah, my bed is everything.
Bed is like
whatever size.
Yeah.
No, but like I sat on it.
It's not like there's anything crazy.
It's not like you have, you know, a duck sat on a mattress.
You're not listening.
That's not what I'm saying.
It's because it's mine by Kelly Clarkson.
It's mine by Taylor Swift.
Oh, because mine is mine by Kelly Clarkson.
Wait, I fell into like this weird Kelly Clarkson rabbit hole on TikTok last night.
You saw that she did her residence.
She started her residency in Vegas and she's like making news, singing all about her ex and her ex-man's dad.
Yeah, and she did ABC D E F you yes so her ex-man's dad of course we all know but for those who don't was um dating Reba or married I think to Reba for a really long time and he also ended up being like a
you know grifter taking things from Reba and Kelly and Reba have like solidarity with one another um but I guess like Kelly's ex-man's dad has a new girlfriend and she's been like leaving hate comments on Kelly Clarkson's Instagram she has like five followers I think she's private but like somebody found it and she was like you're really not taking the high high road kelly like no class coming for kelly
because of what kelly's been singing yeah well and she was commenting on the video abc d f you and your dad yeah she changed the lyrics and kelly's big mad Kelly's big mad and I kind of love that she's actually not taking the high road and like you know very Kim Kardashian like the father of my kids I will never say and I respect that I really really do but I also just love people you know getting what's theirs yeah but it's different when you you say it in your art versus.
Yeah, she has a talk show.
She doesn't go off about her husband.
When she did her album, Press Tour, like, she did go there.
You know, she went on Radio Andy and Howard Stern and she was being super honest.
But I still don't know what happened.
She just had to give him a lot of money.
When they divorced, but why did they divorce?
Oh, that's true.
That I don't know.
Right.
Like, she talks, and all the songs, like, she talks about, like, you know, I hope someday someone does to you, like, what you did to me.
I don't know what he did.
That's actually really true.
And I don't think I should know.
But also because as stated, like he's the product of her kids.
So I think she is trying to be artistic and talk about and work through her emotions without like spelling it out, you know, like Kelsey Ballarini on Call Her Daddy.
But Kelsey Ballarini didn't have kids with Morgan Evans.
So she was able to say all that.
Of course, but I just, I think there's something to be said for like, you know, divorce is so sad.
And I feel like people talk about that all the time.
But like the money part is like infuriating.
and that's really Kelly's focus.
Like, she keeps saying that he got half the ranch that she bought him.
Like, she talks a lot about the material items, and I feel like that's a very human response, like, especially for like a woman who's worked her ass off from being on like a talent show to being one of the biggest stars in Hollywood and you know, the highs and lows that's come with that.
Like, I really appreciate how she's really focusing on the money because, like, I don't know how people get fucking past that.
Yeah, yeah, like that's in fucking furiating.
Yeah,
relatable queen
100%.
She's a woman of the people.
She is.
I'm sad I'm not there
in Vegas to see her doing her thing.
I feel like we've truly come full circle because the first thing ever that got canceled during the pandemic that we had tickets to was Kelly's residency.
We literally got the best seats.
And now with inflation, like I actually think we had an amazing price.
Back then it felt like so much.
But in this economy, pennies on the dollar.
Mm-hmm.
And we had front row.
We had like a VIP booth with weight service and bottle service.
Oh my God.
We had like eight tickets.
We were going to bring the whole family like I'm so upset no it was a devastating loss it was huge for the community yeah
I guess we'll just have to go next next time if there is a next time Kelly's so predictable no one thing about Kelly she's just getting started and I feel like her album has like crazy legs like it did really well I think it debuted at like number eight on billboard but for like the gen z kings and queens who don't really know kelly's story, it's all over TikTok.
Like people are still talking about it.
Like I think her album like is going to get even bigger, honestly.
I love that.
Even me, I'm like a big Kelly girl.
I, like, there was so much music and so much happening in my life.
Like, I didn't really sit down and listen to it up until two weeks ago.
It's incredible.
Yeah, I've listened to it in full a few times, but I haven't like plucked out my favorite songs yet and added them to my playlist.
I have Playing Cowboy in the Wild, Wild West.
Except for
Mine and Me.
I love those two, but those were singles.
Yeah, no, it's really work of art.
And it's one of those things, and it reminds me a lot of like a Taylor Swift album.
Like, the more you listen to it, the better it gets, the deeper it gets.
It's not like these, you know, kitschy pop songs that you have to twist after a few.
Exactly.
It's not surface lyrics.
It's not giving surface whatsoever.
No, Kelly doesn't do anything at the surface.
No, and that's why, like, we waited so long for this album, and it delivered in every possible way.
Mm-hmm.
Queen.
Queen.
But yeah, so all's that to say, Reba's X-Man's new girl is starting beef with Kelly.
But like, Kelly, it's literally like fan behavior.
Kelly probably in her thousands and thousands of comments couldn't even see this irrelevant girls.
If Kelly even spends time on her Instagram, which I follow her because I love her, but it's not the sort of Instagram that feels, you know, self-run.
It's giving social team.
Yeah, it is.
As it should be.
Kelly's a busy.
She's a mother.
And you know what?
Like, not everyone needs to be an Instagram expert.
No,
not everyone needs to be like an authentic content creator.
No, not at all.
Like, her job is to make
that speaks to millions of people and she's amazing at it.
And host a talk show that's really kind of changing the landscape.
Yeah, and she's a judge on the voice sometimes.
Right.
She's so busy.
She's children.
She's got an author.
She has her furniture line.
She's got to make up for the half a fortune she gave to her ex-man.
Yeah, that was like in Jessica Simpson's book when she had to give like half of her earnings to Nicola Shea and she was like, but I'll make it back.
Give or take a billion.
Oh my God, that line gave me children.
It was the final line of a chapter, right?
Yep, yep.
Yeah, I told myself, I'll make it back.
And I did.
Give or take a billion.
Slay.
Yeah, like at that time, it probably felt like all of her money going to Nicolache, but now she literally owns a billion-dollar like merchandise empire.
Like, okay, Nick, take, it was probably, like, back then, like one or two million dollars.
No, it was probably a couple million.
Still hurts, but she made it back.
Right.
And that's what I was at to say, what I was saying about Kelly, like, it hurts.
And not enough people talk about the money.
They're always talking about like the breaking down of a family.
Yeah, I get it.
But like, money's important too.
Yeah.
Like, imagine just having to give up half.
Ugh.
What about getting half?
Oh, that's different.
That's definitely different.
Um,
and if I found myself in a situation where like I would be getting half, like you bet your ass, I'd be taking it.
I would not be like a principled queen.
I'd be like, that's literally mine.
It's, of course, also, and I know this is like people always yell at me for saying this, it's men and women.
It's different.
Like a woman taking half of a man's thing, thing, like, as you should, it is your own thing.
It is very gendered.
And also, like, typically, not every situation, but typically, the woman is the primary care provider for the children and makes the life and pays for the school and does the house and the groceries.
And, and what gives up her career to do that?
Right.
So,
it's just not the same.
No, it's not the same.
It's completely gendered.
And, like, a man taking half of a woman, yikes, like, couldn't be me.
It's disgusting.
Like, it's humiliating.
Yeah, I agree.
But, like, a woman, yes, queen.
Get your coin.
Get your coin.
You earned it.
Yeah.
You literally worked for it.
No problem with that.
You're never going to catch me finding a woman, like, judging a woman for that ever.
No, that's not even like news.
No, love that for you, Camille Grammer.
Love that for you.
Yeah.
It is what it is.
Yeah.
So we could get into the stories if you're feeling ready.
I mean, it'd truly be a pleasure.
We have so much to do today.
It's probably, it's probably best that we do.
It's for the best.
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And well, um, our first story, a little more news in the Lizzo lawsuit, including the fact that Beyonce left Lizzo's name out of the lyrics of her song at her concert last night amid this bombshell lawsuit.
So Beyonce seemingly reacted to the lawsuit brought against Lizzo at her concert on Tuesday night, leaving Lizzo's name out of her lyrics.
While singing Break My Soul in Foxborough, Massachusetts, Beyonce repeated Badu in place of Lizzo's name.
Originally, the song lyrics read Rosetta Tharpe, Santa Gold, Bessie Smith, Nina Simone, Betty Davis, Solange Knowles, Badu, Lizzo, Kelly Roll.
Instead, she said Badu, Badu, Badu, Badu.
So she left out Lizzo's name.
But also, it's worth noting that Erica Badu actually kind of like shaded Beyonce this week on Instagram.
There's two things.
One, it's Badu.
Oh.
And two, I saw people saying that, but I didn't think it was shady.
I didn't think it was like that shady.
Like, I guess they're wearing a similar hat, and then Erica tweeted, like, I guess I'm everyone's stylist now.
Right, like she's just patting herself on the back for like being an inspiration.
Like, I don't think that's crazy.
Yeah, I don't think it's crazy.
I don't think it means that, like, Beyonce should change that lyric, but it is just interesting that she actually doubled down
on that while taking out Lizzo.
But the, the statement is.
But she also took out Kelly.
She also took out Kelly Roland.
So I kind of feel like maybe she just flubbed the words.
Like, I feel like maybe there's something here and maybe there's not.
Because I feel like Beyoncé is not one to like give into public pressure or anything, you know?
I don't know.
I think it's a little deeper than that.
I don't think she flubbed the lyrics on her lead single from her most recent album.
Yeah.
The timing is suspicious, for sure.
Yeah.
But for me, the interesting thing about the Lizzo lawsuit is like so much happened yesterday after like the NBC News dropped the, you know, the whole lawsuit investigation is so many people who've worked with Lizzo kind of who aren't a part of the lawsuit posted on social media, just corroborating it.
And these are people who have like worked deeply with her on tour.
There was, you know, a costume designer, a videographer, like a filmmaker.
Yeah, someone was like supposed to direct her documentary who left after two weeks because
it was the most toxic, arrogant.
She called Lizzo out specifically.
Like she is arrogant.
It was definitely a bad day for Lizzo fans yesterday because Lizzo hasn't responded.
So now it's just all these people speaking out on their experiences with Lizzo, and all of them are negative.
Just kind of reaffirming that like classic celebrity trope where like, you know, front-facing is so different than who they truly are.
And I feel like in the age of the internet and social media, a lot of that doesn't happen anymore because you really can't get away with being a completely different person at like restaurants in your private life.
Yeah.
Because you'll get called out.
So I feel like we haven't had something like this in so long, but it really appears that like Lizzo, her public persona, is like a 180 for who she is in real life, which is just shocking.
I feel like we haven't had a situation like that in a while.
Yeah.
Also, I feel like sometimes when stuff like this happens, a lot of people come out of the woodwork and there's people speaking for both sides.
Like, no, I've worked with Lizzo.
She was amazing.
I haven't seen anything like that.
Yeah.
And we've only seen the people who clearly worked with her in a very official capacity and had a terrible experience so much so that they like took themselves out of the equation when I'm sure it was a very big job for them.
So I think
it all like just is very damning.
And another update for when we were talking yesterday about weight shaming, we were saying like there's obviously no way Lizzo was commenting on a dancer gaining weight because that's her whole brand.
And actually, it has come out that it was about a weight gain, you know, kind of berating a dancer for not being able to keep up and blaming it on the fact that she's gained 10 pounds.
So it was like a weight gain thing.
I feel like that's like the most damning thing thus far.
The banana vagina is the most scary, but that's
crazy.
Right.
And I think that's like really like heartbreaking for a lot of people who like really look up to Lizzo.
Yeah.
I wonder if Beyonce knows Lizzo or like this was just, she was just like a lyric in her song because she's an icon.
Like personally or know who she is?
No, I'm sorry, personally.
Because it's like, if you know that she's not a great gal, then why is she in your song to begin with?
If you didn't know, if you don't know her well enough to know what she's actually like, why is she in your song?
I actually think that Beyonce doesn't know Lizzo personally enough to know what she's like, but like Beyonce's a person in the world and can't deny.
And the whole point of the lyric is like listing off like iconic, influential black women.
And that is Lizzo.
So like, I feel like Beyonce just, you know, surveyed the culture and put Lizzo in there because up until yesterday, Lizzo really was like a groundbreaking,
you know, really industry-shifting queen.
Yeah.
Agreed.
I think I'm actually so surprised that she took her name out of the lyric.
No, I know.
That's like, I'm so surprised to the point where I actually believe like maybe it was a lyric flub.
Yeah, because I feel like she would, I don't know Beyonce personally either, but I just feel like she would require a little more
critical thinking, like evidence.
Like, you know, if this is just, these are claims, it's just getting started.
Like, yeah, people are saying really terrible things, but like you've seen the pendulum swing back the other way sometimes.
Like it just seemed like very quick Yes, that's what I was saying I feel like Beyonce would initially like always stand with like another woman in the business like I'm sure people have said things about Beyonce that are not true So I feel like if you know she was gonna take the lyric out It would be like when 100% confirmation not one day later or not even one day that night Yeah, but remember when Beyonce took that lyric out of her song like the day her album dropped?
I think she used the SP star Z word Was that Beyonce or was that Lizzo?
It was both.
So first it was Lizzo.
It was the big controversy with Lizzo.
Then Beyonce's album came out and that word was on a song.
And everyone was like, oh my God, I can't believe she used that word.
I didn't think for one second she was going to do anything about it.
And she changed it.
Right after she put out like this masterpiece, she tweaked it for that word.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she has like a recent track record of kind of giving into internet culture pressure.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just feel like Beyonce's on tour.
Literally, the article dropped yesterday morning.
She was probably in soundtrack all day.
Like, how the fuck is she finding out about this?
Like, she's so
kind of cut off from, she doesn't have like a cell phone.
She's not scrolling Twitter like that.
Like,
unless she knows some of the people who are
not the dancers, but maybe like the filmmaker.
You know.
Small worlds.
It is a small world.
That music bubble.
That's interesting.
It's very interesting that she changed it and it made it much bigger news because if she had kept the lyric in, I don't think anybody from the show would have been like, she kept this lyric in when Lizzo has been accused of these things because it was literally day one.
It'll be interesting to see what she does for the rest of her tour.
I think the tour's over.
Beyonce.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about Lizo.
Sorry.
No, like, what is Beyonce going to sing next weekend?
I need to know.
Yeah, no, that's a really good call, first of all.
And second of all, another update from the Lizzo thing.
I've been like, I fell into Lizzo TikTok.
So one, obviously, like, all the heat is falling on Lizzo, but you know, like, there's a lot of people, like management, who create a toxic environment like that.
And one of the people, I think it was like head of choreography or something, who was named in a lawsuit as being like one of the really toxic people working there, took to Instagram stories and just like gave a, it was like a 90-second video about how God is good.
And she's so blessed.
Like, she's like, I just got off this amazing tour.
I'm home with my family.
God is good.
God loves you.
This is the sign you need.
God loves you.
I'm like, okay.
Yeah.
And thanks to the cast and crew.
Objection, relevance?
Yeah.
Everyone worked really hard on this tour.
Thanks for watching.
But Lizzie's silence.
Lizzo's silence is definitely really loud because she's not the type of celebrity who like doesn't use social media and only she's like borderline and influencer, especially on TikTok.
She posts like five videos a day.
She's kind of like a content creator and it's been really good for her business, but she's really active on social media.
So her not saying anything yet, it's been like a whole day is kind of crazy.
Is she posting other stuff?
No, no, no, no, no.
Okay.
I don't think the silence is.
Actually, I think she might say something.
This is becoming a very big story.
Right.
I think yesterday I was questioning.
I'm like, is this?
It had just dropped.
I'm like, are people going to care?
But I think the allegations were so egregious that it has become like an enormous story.
And new things keep coming out.
People keep speaking.
So she really has no choice but to respond.
And I'm sure she's limited because it's a legal matter.
But at this point, like the court of public opinion is just as big of a deal as like an actual court.
So she has to say something.
Yeah.
I think she'll say, I'm limited in what I can say, but I love my cast and crew.
Yeah, I love my cast and crew.
Like, I would never want anyone to feel anything less than on one of my sets.
Like, I'm all about positivity, this and that.
And I hope, you know, show you guys out there at my next show.
Now, this probably is a good segue into our next story, which I assume is coming next, but a lot of people are calling this, you know, Taylor Swift.
Like, you speak against Taylor Swift and bad things happen to you.
Now, there's a lot of discourse on whether
Lizzo actually did shade Taylor Swift, and I have no doubt that she did, like, multiple multiple times.
And it's just funny.
Well, not funny, it's just ironic that like Lizzo kind of shaded Taylor Swift in defense of Beyonce, and Beyonce's out here dropping her name from the lyrics.
That is so funny.
Yes, our next story is about Taylor Swift, so we could talk about Taylor and Lizzo, and if you think this is some sort of karma.
And at the time, I was like going off of the Lizzo that I thought I knew, and I was like, you know, she definitely doesn't want beef with anyone.
She just like is like this affable person who gets along with everyone.
But now, like, if we're talking about mean girl Lizzo, if that's who she is, she was definitely shading Taylor.
By the way, even when I thought Lizzo was like queen of kindness, like it was like facts are facts.
Like she literally, she was being so clearly talking about Taylor multiple times.
And I had told you, I had a feeling that Lizzo didn't like Taylor Swift on that Sizza live stream where Sizza was just kind of like talking about how Taylor is like wonderful and they have like, you know, a lot of mutual respect for one another and they have a good relationship.
And Lizzo just sat on that Instagram, like completely silent, didn't even say, cool like she made a face like I was like oh there's something there and then these last two recent times where she like took that sign that girl's sign and signed it where it was like I didn't go to Taylor Swift so I could go to your show like of all the signs you're gonna pick up it's gonna be the one pitting two women against another like we should have known I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt you know some people do like some actions can be misconstrued and misunderstood true true but Now it feels like maybe it's Congress with who she is.
You love Congress.
And you also, honorable mention, love affable, which is such a great word.
And every time you say it, I'm like, yes, that's the perfect word.
Can you give, what's the actual definition of affable?
Likeable.
Yeah.
Gets along.
Friendly, good-natured, or easy to talk to.
Affable is such a great word.
I got to start.
I've been using Congruous.
Like, I need to start getting affable in there.
Congress is so good.
And so is incongruous.
A hundred percent.
Because some people.
What's the opposite?
Jackie, what's the opposite of affable?
Oh, it wouldn't be like non-affable.
It's a different word.
Inaffable?
Is that a word?
No.
It would just be a little bit.
Unfriendly is the synonym.
Nasty.
There are actually a ton of great words for that.
Nefarious.
How much time do you have?
Nefarious.
The best one.
The best one.
Let's get to the next story.
Affable Taylor Swift has paid out $55 million in bonuses to workers on her errors tour.
So we talked about this a little bit yesterday, but we got the number wrong.
And the real number is- I got the, that's nice of you.
It was me.
I got the number wrong.
Claude, Claude, listen,
I'll help carry your burdens and celebrate your successes.
We do it together.
We're in it together.
Except, like, next time you fuck up, don't put that shit on me.
We're a we here.
Okay, okay.
We're a wee here at the toast.
It's good.
We are.
The wins are ours and the losses are ours.
Ain't that the truth?
But the real story is actually much bigger than what we touched on yesterday and worth a mention in the fast five today.
100%.
Taylor Swift has doled out a total of $55 million in bonuses to workers on her Eras tour as the American leg of her tour winds to a close.
The songstress paid out the sum to workers on the lucrative trek, including backup dancers, rigging professionals, sound technicians, catering personnel, and truck drivers
that she paid out.
She went from top to bottom.
Yeah, to everyone involved in the ongoing tour, Insiders told people on Tuesday.
I mean, when you think about how much money this tour has generated, like over a billion dollars, like 55 sounds like so much, and it is so much.
No, it's still a lot.
She can afford it.
She can afford it.
Of course, she can afford it.
And I'm sure in some way it's a write-off, but it's a lot.
Even if the tour generated a billion dollars, like she didn't make a billion dollars from this tour.
Like, there's a lot of things that need to be paid.
This is, it's expensive, you know, there's commissions and whatnot.
It's incredibly generous.
Like, when we thought it was 5 million, like, that was really, really nice.
But, you know, like not that much to her.
This is 11fold.
It's It's a lot of money.
It's almost,
it's almost 20% of the generated money, no?
So I was trying to Google, like, how many, um,
how many people does that include, you know?
I have no idea.
Like, I would say, I would say it's like maybe a hundred.
Hundreds.
I don't know.
That includes dancers, backup singers, truck drivers,
like camera riggers, sound technicians,
sound technicians, catering, people actually building the physical stage.
That's like,
I think it's more like hundreds.
Yeah, but are there people who work for the stadium that help her?
Like who's in her like I don't think those people got these tips only
on the ring with her.
Yeah, people who work for stadiums who go to like one specific show like ushers and security.
No, no, I'm talking about, but people who work for the stadiums help set up too.
No, it's not just on the artist.
I don't think so.
I don't think so because it's such a detailed thing.
Like it's something you literally need to be trained in and do hundreds of times.
So, I think she has her own like production people who physically come and set up the stage.
Got it.
Okay, so it's hundreds of people, and then like assistance,
yeah, it's definitely hundreds, that's why the number is so high.
Yeah,
that's crazy.
And we know for a fact that she had given um
truck drivers a hundred thousand, so I think we can assume like everybody got around the same amount,
right?
I don't think so.
i guess like the the most rigorous everyone else is flying you know i guess maybe that was the top of the bonuses because i think the truck drivers are probably working the most hours but did you also see that video i'm sure you saw of how many trucks it takes to put on her show it was like
i didn't i didn't count but it looked like 30 40 trucks yeah
It's insane.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, she's coming off looking really good this week.
She's been looking really good this year, but especially in light of the Lizzo Lizzo stuff.
And no, in light of the Lizzo stuff, and then in light of just like a saint.
It's been a very good, like, two years for Taylor.
Like, so many of the people who she publicly feuded with, like, having their own downfalls, like Kanye and then, like, Scooter Braun's divorce.
Like, that's why people say, like, you know, come for Taylor, the world comes for you.
And now it seems as though Lizzo has fallen into that as well.
Well, that's why Taylor says, you know, Karma is her boyfriend.
Precisely.
Karma is a god.
And she keeps her side of the street clean.
Like, yes.
But I mean, it's natural for everyone to ebb and flow.
So I don't think it's like, you know, Taylor's hex, honestly.
Like, everyone's gonna have to have.
She had a bunch of bad years, too.
Yeah, right.
Everyone's gonna have highs and lows in their professional career and in their personal lives.
Like, considering Scooter's divorce as a win for Taylor, like, I actually don't see it that way.
I agree.
I agree because that's like a personal tragedy.
Yeah, I don't think that Taylor was hoping they would get divorced.
Me neither.
Like,
whatever.
She's not an evil person.
And these are the fans.
Like, this isn't what Taylor says.
I think Taylor.
Yeah, no, I think Taylor would want like professional retribution, not a breakup of a family.
Like, that doesn't help her.
Totally.
And Taylor herself is a child of divorce.
I don't think she would wish that on other children.
No.
So.
It's like a fun fact a lot of people don't know because her parents are like always with her and they're always together and it wasn't like it's it's something that people currently find out and are like wait her parents are divorced because they always appear like as a family unit.
And I don't think even I knew that until like years after.
It wasn't a story when it happened.
It's just like a fun fact now.
How old was she when it happened?
Let me tell you.
And does she have songs about it?
No.
She was old enough, I think, to understand.
They divorced in 2011, which was
13 years ago, which would make her like 20.
Is that like Speak Now?
Yeah, it's a year after Speak Now.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, who understands the trials and tribulations of relationships better than Taylor Swift?
Yeah.
Even though I feel like we've been having this conversation that, like, people whose parents get divorced when they're kids, it's actually like much less of a trauma than it is when they're like older.
Yeah, like, I think a lot of people, they wait to get divorced for the kids so that you don't like.
ruin their childhood, but then you kind of just like shift the axis of their world when you get divorced as it and they're adults.
They're like, oh, I thought I knew what a relationship and love was like but you guys didn't even like each other this whole time right and like when i think about our parents divorce like i don't think of it as like this earth shifting it's like tragedy it's it's not it's not like my trauma like it is some people's trauma i think it depends on a lot of factors age is one of them but i think it's also just like
you know maybe do you have siblings i think that helps like you not feel like so much pressure.
The way that your parents handle it, like if you're seeing your parents sad, that makes you sad.
If you're seeing your parents like better than ever, you're like, hey,
they say, so that's what it is.
I think the parents really set the tone.
That's true.
I think there's a lot, but age is a consideration.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
What number is this?
Number three.
Yes.
The unlikely show of the summer is Suits.
Have you seen this?
Yes, it's like killing it on Netflix.
Suits has set the record for library shows on streaming charts this week.
It has, even though this number sounds big i don't know what it means 3.14 billion minutes viewed this week minutes viewed is like the most random obscure analytic no i know and that's like just how many people are watching it i know but that's what we're saying about with the streamers and the strike and the residuals they won't tell you how many people are watching it they give you these minutes viewed yeah
but suits had The most minutes viewed this week, according to Nielsen,
easily surpassing the previous mark of minutes viewed, which was for Manifest, which before it became a Netflix original.
The bear went to number two on Minutes Viewed, but
or number three, The Witcher's number two, whatever.
But people are really shook because everyone's kind of being introduced to Suits right now, which is the show that
most of us know Megan Markle from.
And the last episode aired four years ago, but now there's kind of talk about bringing it back since it's so popular.
I'm just trying to do 3.5 billion.
How many zeros is that?
1, 2, 3, 9, 4, 5, 6, 7.
No, it would be...
Nine zeros.
It would be eight.
Because of the point.
Because of the 0.5, yeah.
So let's say, how, like, what, they're an hour long.
Let's say people watch two episodes.
Okay.
So it's like 100 minutes, right?
Why would they only watch two episodes?
Everyone watches the whole episode.
I'm just being conservative.
No, you're going to be, you're going to, the numbers are to be really big.
Okay, okay.
Okay, hold on.
35, 1, 2, 3, 4.
And also, there's like a number of seasons.
Okay, so let's say they watch a whole last season.
I'm just trying to be conservative.
Like, 3.5, because I'm saying 3.5 billion minutes actually isn't a lot.
Yeah.
How many hours?
How many watched a whole season?
How many hours is that?
Divided by 60.
It's,
I don't fucking know.
This is why they don't want they want to keep us unknowledgeable about their numbers.
How much of Megan Markle's impact do you think has to do with this?
I think it's definitely like a really good show, and I think everybody loves that guy, Harvey.
He's like hot.
But Megan Markle's impact is undeniable here.
100%.
There's a curiosity.
Like, oh, here, there's the show.
This is the one that Megan Markle was on.
I think they might start it because it's like, oh, that's interesting.
And then they get hooked because it is a good show.
And it's also the perfect kind of like bingeable show.
It has a number of seasons.
It's not too deep.
Like that's what people like to binge watch.
So but I do think that she has helped.
But now when they talk about, you know, maybe we'll bring it back because it's so popular now and there are new fans, the question is,
does Megan go back?
Never!
Literally, no.
She couldn't.
I don't think she would.
The producer had said like that it wasn't likely that she would, but.
But we know she's on good terms with a lot of the cats because they came to the wedding, yeah.
But that was like six years ago.
I love that Gabriel Macht Jewish king.
Oh, he plays Harvey, and he's in my favorite movie because I said so.
He plays that like Jason Morazzi type of musician who Mandy Moore falls in love with.
I love him.
Like, I should watch Suits.
You should watch Suits.
And I think she's just great in it because I think that's where really people came to see her Markle Sparkle.
So that when she was
announced as dating and engaged to Prince Harry, like the people who knew her from the show were not surprised.
Yeah, no, you're totally right.
I feel like Ben would like it too.
Maybe I will start soon.
You should.
I know Olivia and Margo both watched it and loved it when they watched it when it was on.
Yeah, they're the real ones.
A hundred percent.
Like they knew who Megan Markle was.
I didn't.
Yeah.
And I think overall this is good for Megan.
They've had some bad press in the last few months, but I think like people like watching her show and liking it.
And I think she is a really good actress from what I've seen her and she's a good actress.
I think it must endear more people to her.
So I think this is overall a good thing.
A win for everybody, I agree.
Yeah, and a win for content.
Uh-huh.
I don't know, in this, you know, strikey times, I don't know if we're looking for a win for the streamers, but it is.
It's true.
I can't go back down this rabbit hole of whether it's better for the strike if I watch TV or if I don't.
Yeah, I actually, I did read that it is good to support the
like watch TV, go see the movies, because it proves to Hollywood and the studios and the streamers just how valuable all the members of strike, the SAG are.
Excuse me.
But you don't think it might show, it might, they might take it as like, oh, we're fine whether or not they're promoting and working with us or not, or they're on strike.
The numbers are the same.
Okay, I don't know.
That's no point.
That's why I said I can't go down this rabbit hole again.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'll just read my Kindle.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
Gwyneth Paltrow lists her Montecito guesthouse on Airbnb, and she will have dinner with the occupant.
So it's not as exciting as it seems.
It's for one night at least.
The Goop founder announced that she is listing her Montecito, California guest house on Airbnb.
She wrote on Instagram, loneliness is a human condition, but in the past few years, increased isolation and our lack of community has made our lives even more fragmented.
In order to make the world a little less lonely, she's inviting one lucky fan and a guest of their choice the opportunity to stay on her $5 million property.
She said, while we may begin as strangers, I hope we'll find connections and commonalities over a delicious meal, lay by the pool, go on one of my favorite hikes, and of course, you'll have a bathroom stocked with my favorite goop products.
So this is a partnership with Airbnb, and it's a good one.
No, I was shocked because I follow her on Instagram and it came up like as she posted it before it became a big news story.
And I was like, what's the catch?
Yeah, honestly, I think that you should try and get it.
100%.
And I'll be your guest.
Like, okay, yeah, I'll go on a hike if Gwyneth requests me to do so.
Yeah, you play pickleball.
Yeah, I can go on a hike.
I feel like it's like a low impact, like right out of her backyard, like easy.
Yeah, I think this is so exciting, but I think you're the right person for it.
So we will rally.
I mean, this is my dream.
We'll all rally around you.
They must have paid her a lot of money.
I wonder how much it's going to go for.
So is it like a bid, like an auction?
I think so.
Right?
That's kind of crazy.
I don't know.
How else would it work?
Maybe it's like a giveaway, like everybody applies and then one person gets it.
I don't think she's gonna actually charge them to stay at her house, you know?
No, I think that she was.
I'm assuming it's going to charity for like...
Well, I feel like they would have said that.
I just feel like,
I feel like it's going to charity.
They need to give more details, but...
Yeah, is it is this a for-profit kind of thing?
There's no, it's definitely not for profit it's definitely for like goop and airbnb to you know marketing but they're not gonna be pocketing the money i think they'll probably donate it it sounds like it's giving like mental health um donation i don't think so i think a bunch of people apply it's like a sweepstakes giveaway because if it's like a bid then it's not gonna be her fans it's gonna be like really wealthy people like
which i guess are her fans but still like I think that it's going to be like a sweepstake vibe, you know?
Okay, interesting.
Yeah, if it was for charity, it certainly would have been in the caption.
Like all proceeds will be going to at whatever.
Yeah.
Okay.
You're probably right.
I think so, but I still will be applying.
You should, and you'll take me along.
Okay.
Why, why not?
Well, it sounds like it's more like date night.
You know, you get to have dinner with her and her husband.
Like, I think, you know, Ben would probably want to go.
You'd have to just fight Ben.
I'm happy with that.
I've been looking for a reason to fight Ben.
You have?
No, I haven't.
Ben and I have been getting along.
People like think that Ben and I have beef just because whenever you're talking negatively about him on the show, like complaining about him, I'm always gassing you up.
Yeah, yeah, as you should.
As I should.
But no, I do love and adore Ben.
Yeah, there's no beef here.
And he probably should go with you.
Okay, then I guess I'll have to apply for myself.
No, I think we'd have to like go together and the whole thing would clearly be like an audition for Gwyneth.
Like we'd be auditioning, like, come on the toast.
Maybe Goop acquires the toast.
Like, maybe she would be so dazzled by us, she'd want to go like into business with us.
Right.
Also, it kind of has to be me because then, like, we're in her guest house.
We bring our mics.
Gwyneth, come on the podcast.
No, not only that, we would be like podcasting, even if she doesn't come, like, podcasting the whole experience.
Yeah, and like, vlogging it, like, it's a work trip.
A hundred percent.
And that way, if it is about the highest bid, you could write it off.
Very true.
It's an expense.
Yeah, people act like writing something off makes it free.
And not people.
But it's like, that's like the way you talk about it.
It's like, you still have to pay for it.
You do.
It's not free, but it's like less.
It's like it's a beneficial.
Yeah.
But like you still have to pay for it.
But no, you just basically don't pay taxes on it.
So it's like kind of half.
No, you do pay taxes on it.
But like you might pay less taxes if you write enough things off.
Right.
Like it takes down your overall income income for the year.
Right.
So less
by that amount of money.
Right.
So less taxes, but still taxes, and you still had to pay the sum.
I think mathematically, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
It depends on like tax brackets and also what the amount is, but like.
And where you live.
But I would love some numbers on like what you actually, how many dollars you save by writing something off.
CPAs, sound off in the comments.
CPAs, do your worst.
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Our fifth and final story: a little new mama news.
Jesse J is a new mama.
She said she doesn't want to go back to her pre-baby figure.
So Jesse J is embracing her body after the birth of her son.
On Tuesday, the singer and mom to her three-month-old son, Sky, responded to people commenting on her post-baby figure in a candid note shared on her Instagram story.
She said, A couple of people have said to me, I bet you can't wait to get your body back.
My reply is, I don't want to go back.
That body is gone.
I want my body to go forward.
I'm getting my body forward.
That's the vibe, ladies.
So I actually just started following Jesse J a few weeks ago when I saw that she had her baby.
And this woman loves being a mother so much.
It is such a joy to watch.
She gets like so.
excited about every like she just has such a positive mentality.
I think she tried for a really long time to have a baby.
I think we reported some news about her in the last few years that like she was struggling.
And it is such a pleasure to watch someone who just absolutely loves being a mom.
And I love her mentality.
And like she is back in the gym, like she's working out, but she's not like trying to bounce back.
Like I just like how she is embracing everything.
Yeah, I mean, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this because I've never had a baby and like I feel like there's a lot of hate on bounce back culture, which I agree with.
But I think if somebody wants to bounce back really quickly, like that's on them.
Like everybody can make their own choices.
I don't think we need to hate on one another, but like we certainly don't need to be asking people like, when are you going to get back in the gym?
Like are you ready to get back to your pre-baby body?
Yeah, I agree.
Like we don't need to be asking people, everyone can make their own choice.
I have no issue with bounce back culture.
And also sometimes it is like very
aspirational and inspiring to see someone who who's able to bounce back really quickly.
I think it's really genetics.
It's how you carry.
It's like, you know, some people have their baby and then their body like a few weeks later looks maybe underneath their clothes, it looks different, but like to the untrained eye, it looks the same.
And that's not the truth for everyone but it is kind of nice to know that it's like not this most destructive process and that like right you can feel like yourself again relatively soon but that also might make other people feel bad
not that it doesn't make me feel bad i'm just like oh that's cool nice for her gold jealous jealous but okay
yeah no it's not like on other people to
make someone else like it's somebody's decision about their body like if that impacts you like that sucks But it's not on them to like make decisions about their life so as not to like impact another person Yeah, and like some people actively are like I'm snapping back and they're working really hard and and that's cool But there are also some people who like don't seem like they're have to work as hard and just their body kind of naturally bounces back and I just think that's genetics that's like me being upset that I wasn't born a supermodel like okay right no and that's why like comparison should like you should never compare yourself to other people because there are so many things about like bodies especially like postpartum that are truly out of your control whether it's like genetics or just the circumstances of like your situation.
Yeah.
Socioeconomic factors.
So like you really just shouldn't ever compare yourself to anyone's journey because everyone is different.
Even just like getting stretch marks, like you, there's no rhyme or a reason really for like
people who get them.
It's not like you reach a certain threshold and you have them.
Like some people say smaller, but they have them.
Some people are bigger and they don't have them.
Like it just, it is what it is.
And there's no sense in like
spending so much time harping on it.
And I just, I think it's nice to have people like Jesse J who are just like very positive about the whole thing.
She, her social media content since she's had a baby, has definitely come across my desk, and she's truly like a joy.
She sings to her baby so much, and she seems so happy.
And we spoke for years, like, she was very open about her journey
with her fertility.
And I think she tried really hard to have a baby with Channing Tatum.
Like, so to see somebody after all those years, like, be in this place, it's really a joy to watch.
Yeah.
And there is so much content now, you know, about the realities of motherhood and
the negatives and the things that are like targets,
which is also good.
But I just really like when you can see someone who's like just absolutely loving it.
And I think that that's really positive message.
Yeah, I sent you one of her videos.
She was like singing to her baby in a parking brush.
Yeah.
That's you.
Literally.
And she also has the most amazing voice.
Like it must be such a pleasure to one sing for her baby and for her baby to hear that.
No, totally.
It's like a symphony of sounds.
She's really talented.
Yeah, like sometimes I'll even be playing like with Harry's musical instruments and I have like the basics, but like, then I think about like how Luke Combs probably plays on like Texas's little guitar.
I'm like,
he's playing whole ass songs.
No, it's true.
Like the babies are so lucky.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool.
So those are the fast five stories.
Feel as though you needed to know them.
Good ones.
True, true, good ones.
And we're not done yet because it's Wednesday, Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment.
Every Wednesday, we take three submissions from you guys about things that you're going through.
And we do our best to give, you know, good, good advice, good old-fashioned advice sometimes.
If you ever want to submit, it's totally anonymous.
There are two ways to submit.
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And we're going to do our best to help the girlies through whatever it is they're going through.
Yes, we are.
We're going to do our worst, Claudia.
This one is actually perfect timing based on the conversation we had about like money, men, and Reba.
So, hey, Jackson Claude, I need some serious advice.
Back in January, I opened up a credit card and added my boyfriend as an authorized user.
Over the course of the past six months, he has racked up around $40,000 of debt on this card.
He insisted that everything was going to be taken care of every time I asked.
Last month, the card was canceled due to the outstanding debt.
After the card being canceled, my credit store took a massive hit from the delinquent balance.
My boyfriend finally came clean that he would not be able to pay it.
He has now taken out a loan to pay it.
My immediate reaction to the dishonesty was that I needed to break up with him, but I'm having a hard time doing this because everything else about our relationship has been perfect, healthy, and happy.
We're both 25.
We've recently been having serious talks about moving in together in the next year.
I'm worried that if that we stay together, the future we planned is not going to be possible because of his situation, as well as being able to build back the trust.
What should I do?
Okay, this is really tough.
And I mean, it is, it's what's done is done, but what were you doing putting your boyfriend on your credit card?
Yeah, I, I, I didn't want to like blame you at first, but like, this is some lessons you really have to be like learning the hard way.
And this is like your financial security, especially as a woman, like is so important.
And this is like something I'm sure you will never do again because you were burned so badly.
And to be honest, like of all the things that I would be mad at, like, yeah, the dishonesty is and the lying is like, is frustrating, but it's not even the number one thing here.
I feel like the number one thing is
this person is clearly like not financially literate yet.
And you're only 25 and like that, these things do take time and you have to like learn some things the hard way.
But
I just wouldn't,
it's not like, like it's
bigger than the debt.
It's like a judgment issue.
And also, it's not like a one-time purchase of $40,000.
Oops, I made a mistake.
It's like a rolling, snowballing thing that he continued to do over and over again with your name
and your money on your on your dime to me it's like yes your other the your relationship is good otherwise but this signals a whole host of issues like just disrespect
like
the fact that he would like knowingly make his problem now your problem you're the one with like collections probably calling you you're the one whose credit takes a hit like that to me is worse than the dishonesty it's the way he was so willing to throw you and your financial stability under the bus like that is not a person who like deeply cares about you honestly i agree And now he has all this debt.
You guys are talking about moving in together.
It sounds like he doesn't have his life together.
You guys might be taking steps that you are not ready for, and he might just be like getting you excited about all those things in order.
I don't know, maybe to get on your next credit card, too.
Like,
I don't trust you.
This is such a red flag to do as a boyfriend.
Like, when you are partners and committed, whether it's engaged or married, like eventually you will merge finances, but that takes time and trust.
And I don't like this.
I don't like this either.
And it's in zero way your fault, but I think there are valuable lessons that you can take from here too.
Like your financial security, whether you're in a relationship or not, is of utmost importance.
And, you know, you're obviously like a really trusting person and you probably are awesome, but sometimes being so trusting is the thing that gets you in trouble because you just love so you know because people take advantage of you.
And the fact that your partner, your boyfriend would be the one to take advantage of you, the person that's supposed to like have your back
and protect you, like that just does not bode well for the relationship.
So it's up to you.
You know your, we don't see what's going on in the day-to-day.
You know him better than we do.
I don't know what the $40,000 was spent on, but the idea that he just like was racking up charges on your credit card, not giving a care in the world about what it would mean for you would really fucking piss me off.
Yeah, and there's a litany of things that could have happened here, but I do think it's worth exploring if this person has a gambling problem, because this does kind of sound like that.
Like to open up credit cards to like, you know, to Venmo bookies, like boys love to like bet on sports and stuff.
I feel like there might be more underneath the 40K because what the hell is he doing, you know?
Like, right, what did he spend 40K on that he didn't have the money for?
And saying, saying that he's gonna, you know, pay it back, no problem.
It's like, oh yeah, I have a parlay or whatever they call it coming in and I'll be able to pay this off.
Like, let me just charge another thousand.
It does kind of sound like maybe a a little bit of like a gambling situation that's a very good point
and also like now he's taken out a loan to pay off his debt which is worse but like but you know what like fuck his financial yeah that's his thing but now you're talking about moving in together so now it becomes your thing again and and what if he can't get uh you know a line of credit or a mortgage then it you're it's all gonna fall to you because you're the one who has good credit I do worry though that like if she breaks up with him like he's like all right why the fuck would I pay this bitch back like I never have to see her again well I think you need to get your money like can you said he got he took the loan you need to get the the credit card paid off in full and then I really think you need to break up with him honestly like this is now that I've really talked it through this is not a person who cares about you like and of course as all things are like this is gendered so to like fuck up a woman's financial future is fucked like I'm mad yeah I agree.
And there's just not enough, like, I don't know how long you guys have been dating for it.
You're 25.
It can't be that long.
There's just not enough enough, like, history to try and like work through this enormous betrayal.
Like, I see you.
Thank you for the lesson.
Good day, sir.
Yeah.
Is how I feel.
I agree.
Like, this is egregious.
Yeah.
Egregious.
Our next one is different.
It's like a little funny, okay?
Okay.
Hey, Swirley girlies.
My husband has an identical twin.
When they say the twins have crazy close bonds, nothing compares to my husband and his twin brother.
We vacation together.
We live right next door to him and his family.
We are together every chance we get.
I swear they have their own language, and I wouldn't be surprised if they can hear each other's thoughts.
For the most part, it's great.
Family is so important to me.
We've been together for over a decade, and we are all extremely close.
However, a couple of weeks ago, and a couple of drinks in, we started, of course, talking about each other dying.
My husband and his twin were saying that they both would save each other before me and my sister-in-law.
And of course, I was upset.
We started arguing back, and they said we just didn't understand their bond and they would literally die without one another.
Am I being a pussy?
Since then, it's literally all I can think about, and and it's kind of hurting my feelings.
Should I bring it up again or just let it go?
She's his wife.
Yeah, no, like I understand why she's upset.
You should be your husband's number one person in the world, but like, listen, those two, they came into the world together.
They are going out together.
You, I can't, you can't even like fathom.
The problem is, is that they answered honestly when they should have just like said the right thing, but they know.
But it's like back to what's realistically, Jeggy, you're not realistically going to be in a situation where your twin brother and your wife are both hanging off the ledge of a bridge and you can only save one.
So it's like a hypothetical situation, but I know what she means.
Like you want to be your partner's number one priority.
And I can't really speak to this because I am not a twin and I don't know that.
situation like what that what's that what that's like well i think a lot of twins are very bonded but these seem like the extreme and i mean if you look at i was i get all of these videos of like babies in the womb now and i saw the cutest video of these two twins who didn't know they were born yet their heads were like underwater not their nose and mouth but they thought they were still in the ammionics hack and they're holding on.
The way that they are in the womb for 10 months, they are hugging each other the entire time.
And we've seen three identical strangers.
It is a bond that is beyond anything else.
The problem is they should have just said like, oh yeah, you're our number ones, but I know privately that your husband, his number one person in the world, is his twin.
And I do think that that is okay.
But he should have just answered the question in a way that would make you feel better.
It's like yesterday with Bibi Rexa.
Like he should have just said, you look good.
So let's say he wasn't a twin and this was his brother.
And he basically said, like, my number one priority always is going to be my brother, but you're second.
You're so close.
Like, what do you say then?
I'm a little less understanding.
No,
it depends on their relationship, honestly.
Like
the bond that they're talking about, like,
because if I look at their relationship and I'm like, wait, that's more important to you than our relationship.
I'd be like, well, then what do we have?
But if it's like...
I don't know.
by the way, I don't know if this girl has kids with him yet, because she talked about the twin has a family and kids.
But, like,
you know, a wife is so important, but a wife and who's also the mother of your children obviously takes it to another level.
So, like, maybe you would take number one spot once you have kids.
I don't know.
Maybe.
I just think that, regardless, the crime is that he didn't say you.
Yeah, of course.
What goes on in his heart is his own private thoughts and feelings.
I don't know how you reconcile this, honestly, because if, like, Ben ever said that I wasn't his number one, like, seriously, like, I would riot.
Like, I would be so mad.
Like, there's not allowed to be anything.
Wait, but that's also because
you know, Ben and you know that there's no one in his life he has a closer relationship with than you.
So, if he said one of those other people, you'd be like, what?
I like that's not even that strong of a relationship compared to what we have.
But if Ben had someone
who was like his other half,
well, one, I think it would affect your relationship.
That's true.
But it is what it is.
It sounds like they have a perfectly lovely relationship.
It would be just be shocking for Ben because, like, there's no one even comes close to number two.
It's the
you know?
Yeah.
Okay,
now that you, like, have a family, like, what is supposed to be, like, what is Zach's number one priority should be?
You or Harry?
So people argue about this.
Like, not people, um, thinkers and, you know, reals.
Because some people say it should be your partner should be your number one.
And then there are other people who say that your kids should be your number one.
What do you think?
I feel bad.
Like, I don't,
I love my, like.
No, you think the kid.
Yeah.
Of course.
Like, the kid needs you to walk.
Like, yeah.
I agree.
And I think in making our kids our priority, we're also making each other our priority.
It's our family.
Of course, of course.
And what, you shouldn't neglect the kid?
Like, no, I agree.
Yeah, no, but Pete, like, this isn't a constant debate.
There are two schools of thought.
There are two schools of thought.
Yes, because some people think if you don't prioritize your partner as number one, that that affects your kids too.
Like, then, you know,
it's best for your kids if your partner is number one.
True.
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I didn't realize I was stumbling into like such a philosophical debate.
Yeah, no, it's very layered.
As most things are.
Yeah.
All right, are you ready for a third and final?
So I would just tell her to,
you know,
he loves you.
he loves you.
Listen, go watch some videos of twins in utero, it can't be explained.
It can't be, it's, it's a, it's like a biological phenomenon.
Oh, and it was a hypothetical question, and this is why I don't like dumb fucking games.
It's true.
It, that's, we must keep in perspective.
It was a hypothetical question.
There's literally like the most point zero zero zero zero one percent chance that he's ever in a situation where he has to save either you or him, like for real.
Right.
And the good news is your husband is honest to a fault.
True.
There's the good news.
Finding the silver lining.
Yes.
All right, third and final.
Hey, girlies, longtime toast store, been a stand since the breath.
I've been seeing this guy who's a total PJOM.
Things have been going really well, except for one thing.
He doesn't like when my dog gets on the bed during sex.
He loves dogs, has his own dog, but his dog doesn't get on the furniture or the bed at all.
I have a small pooch who's a big cuddler.
She's allowed on my furniture.
She spoons with me every night in bed.
She also likes to be right next to me when I'm having sex and she just stares.
It's weird, but I've gotten used to it over the years.
She doesn't get involved, she doesn't like lick, make her, you know, but her presence is known.
This is making the guy I'm seeing really uncomfortable.
He nicely will ask if the dog can move when we're getting steamy.
I've tried putting my dog in the bathroom with treats, but she head-butts the door open and ends up jumping on the bed while the deed is happening.
What do I do to keep my dog off?
Where do the Strice Bros go during sexy time?
Do I need to move her?
Any help would be great.
Well, I feel like the difference here is that, like, with Theo and Bruno, they were, you know, brought into our family.
No, they were brought into our family
as, you know, we were already married, or Ben and I had been together for four years.
Like, this is technically like your dog, and he has his own dog.
Like, he probably doesn't feel like, you know, it's not his daughter, you know?
Theo is our son, like, hands down.
So we, and I will be honest, like, Theo is almost always in the bed when we're having.
We have a king-size bed.
Like, he doesn't really, he's sleeping.
Like, he doesn't even care.
Yeah.
You know what?
So the crate training is a good point, too.
The crate training is a good point because what for a really long, like now it just depends, but a lot of times we put Bruno in the crate.
Like we're kind of with, I'm with this girl.
Like at some times it can be disruptive and it's like weird.
And if we know that things are going that way, like we'll put Bruno in the crate and then we take him out.
But he's very, he's fine in the crate.
He's not headbutting the door.
And so he has a safe place to go.
And it's totally fine.
So I understand why your boyfriend feels this way.
I think you need to
do a little more to.
yeah, he's totally justified.
He's totally justified, and it's not like he lets his dog on the bed and not yours.
Like, it's just a no-dog thing, which I actually get.
Like, and even the times where Bruno, where we don't put him away, like
we're very aware he's there, and it's weird.
And besides sex, like, there are other things your dog, like, just might need to be put away for.
Like, when our exterminator comes and sprays, it, you know, needs to dry before so Theodore doesn't like lick up all the, you know, repellent.
There are like life situations where a crate or any sort of like confined space for a dog are actually really necessary so it might just behoove you for all different reasons to either crate train or get him like a you know a little puppy gate something yeah but it might be late in his life to start that like you kind of have to start it young but you do need to find a little bit of a solution or you need to compromise yeah because it doesn't sound like your dog is like a theo at the end of the bed like he's just like there watching yeah in the way yeah yeah yeah no but it's definitely like a thing like sometimes theo will like get up out of his sleep and like come lay next to us because he always loves to like have a warm body next to him when he's laying and it's like you actually can't do that right now theo like fuck off and we'll just like put him on the floor no it's definitely a thing and we definitely put bruno away a lot
considering like you know he's
you know, mommy's angel part of the family, sleeps in the bed with us.
But like, yeah, we're, that's just us.
I can't believe believe there are people who have dogs who don't let the dogs sleep in bed with them.
Like, that's, what's the fucking point?
Bruno didn't sleep with us until
Harry was sleep trained.
Okay, but he was like a puppy at first.
He's only two.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
His birthday's coming up.
Mommy's king.
Kill me.
No, I'm excited to celebrate him.
He deserves it.
When's his big day?
August 15th.
Oh, it's soon.
Should we throw him with like a little party?
Yeah.
A little party.
His cousins can come.
Cute.
He'll invite all the crew from the dog walking group.
Oh my God.
Yes.
I love printouts.
Yeah, no, because first he was a baby, so he was crate trained, like in, he learned to sleep in the crate.
Then Harry was a baby, so he's not going to sleep with us like with a newborn in the bed.
And then once Harry started sleeping through the night, you know, and also once we moved to Florida and we got a king bed, because first we had a queen bed, then we're like, you know what?
Because I always say like 8 a.m.
to 8 p.m.
is Harry o'clock, 8 p.m.
to 8 a.m.
is strice o'clock.
And it can't be striking if he's not sleeping with us.
100%.
And he's just become such a doll in the bed.
So our advice here is, you know, compromise.
He's not entirely wrong for asking.
Yeah, I, yeah, that is my advice.
It can be done.
And that's our show, ladies and gentlemen.
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You know, my back is broken.
I've got a pee.
Always could use a snack.
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