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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.

I apologize for the delayed episode, but trust and believe it is worth it because your girl is home.

I am home.

I've been in Florida this last week and I love Florida, but I love my family.

And there's nothing in this world I love more than my family, except my bed.

And I have returned to my bed.

I am so happy.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I said it.

I love Olivia.

I love her house, but her bed is great.

It's not my bed.

Got it.

Well, we're happy to have you back.

I'm happy that you're.

We're happy to have you back.

Well, I mean, you kicked me off the podcast the last two episodes.

Like, I did.

Friday's episode.

I did.

You could have done it.

I was fine to do it.

I didn't have any conflict.

I couldn't do Monday's episode, and I told you that weeks ago because I had a doctor's appointment, so I didn't need a sub and then.

But you're like, Fredda, Ben, Monday, I love you.

Bye.

I was like, oh, okay.

Okay, I'm using your studio and I'm taking over your house.

Bye.

Oh, oh, let's

let's go there.

Okay, ready?

First of all, I gave you a day off.

You're welcome.

Like, no, I'm living spending time with her.

I'm not complaining, but I just want like the people to know because they probably assumed like, oh, Jackie couldn't do the episode Friday, so Claudia subbed.

Well, you obviously didn't listen to my episode with Ben where I said, you know what?

I'm in Florida.

I have

to give a studio at my students.

You gave me alarm free live.

I'm not going to give Jackie a day off.

No, I did listen to it.

So why would you say that I said anything else?

I didn't say that you said something else.

I said people might think, and even though you said I'm giving her a day off, they might have thought like, oh, because she couldn't do it.

Oh, you know what?

If you couldn't do it, you're literally the most pregnant bitch i've ever seen like that's fine it's fine if you can't do it i know but some days i really can't do it so i just wanted people to know like i got the boot from my own show you got the boot for your own show but for a moment and you know what i got the boot from a barefooted foot you did ben tooted you right out with his booted you shoeless hairy foot and he just got to stomp over everyone around with his big feet yeah he really did but then yesterday i couldn't do it olivia did it i watched your guys's episode that was so fun and i do have to to report you know i got two days off of alarm free living and i woke up earlier than ever good even today we're recording later woke up like got up way before my alarm would have gone off yeah

so you love to see that well

You're welcome.

I also, we had taken apart your Florida studio before when we like ran back to New York to get to your doctor.

We were like thinking, maybe we'll podcast from your bed.

We took everything apart.

We tried to set up a studio.

When I was going to do bed rest in Florida, I brought my studio equipment down to my bed, is what you're trying to say.

We haven't been back to your house since then, so your podcast studio was in disarray.

So I didn't take over your studio.

I put it back together, bitch.

You're welcome.

I carried all that equipment up those stairs.

By yourself?

No, with Ben.

I was going to say Ben didn't help you.

He was literally there.

He did, but like, it was a lot of stuff, and I didn't want to make two trips.

So, like, I had to carry stuff.

He had to carry stuff.

No, I appreciate it.

I love seeing the flamingos.

I love seeing you in my house.

I love seeing my house.

Oh, and I was such a good sister.

I went through

all my packages.

And honestly, when I saw how many packages you got, I'm like, you have a problem.

No, but you open them.

No.

Okay.

Finish my sentence.

You just can't

communicate.

We can't.

We can't.

I said, when I saw the amount of packages, I was like, this girl has a problem.

I'm seriously, I'm going to get a therapist and like do an intervention.

Like, this is an abnormal amount of boxes.

I know you've been gone for months, but like, my God,

how much does she order?

And when I tell you, there was probably 50 boxes, and three of them were things you actually ordered.

everything else was like PR and toast sponsors and just like product.

Yeah.

I judged you and I was wrong.

I'm sorry.

Well, it's okay because you did open my packages, keep the things that I needed and discard of the boxes, which was the kindest thing that you could do for me so I don't have to walk home and into all of it.

I, by the way, like I know the feeling.

Like I just got home.

I was gone since Wednesday.

I have so many boxes outside my front door.

And like, it's the worst thing ever.

Like all the work waiting for you.

So honestly, I know what a good deed it was.

And the way that I have taken that off your your plate like not to make everything about me like I feel good like for doing that I'm so happy that you feel good and I feel good because you raided my closet while you were in Florida I did and honestly you've never looked better Yeah, I didn't pack anything for Florida because I have like a bunch of, I have all my makeup down there.

I have all my hair products.

I have like a decent amount of clothing.

It's nothing like gorgeous, but it's good stuff for podcasting and like walking around the neighborhood.

So when we went out to dinner, I didn't have anything and I was like, there's a gorgeous closet.

Let me go see what my stylish, you know, invested investor sister has for me.

And I had such a good time, you know, scrolling down the aisles of your closet, picking things.

I looked gorgeous, I wore a very controversial pair of shoes.

Thank you for being so generous, so open with me.

I truly appreciate it.

You know, I always have, you guys are always so surprised when I literally would give you the shirt off my back and lend you my nicest things.

But I like

to see my sisters look nice.

It's true.

I'm just like always, like, I picked up a purse and I'm like, i'm gonna wear this lol and you were like no you could wear it and i'm like what i can wear this gucci bag that i don't think i've ever seen you wear like but i do wear new no i wear it it's relatively new but i wore it in the same outfit that you did that was funny you really you really are a generous queen like it's you it's i don't know why it's shocking i mean you're a nice person i don't know why it's shocking but like it is and i think it's because like you really care about like you take such good care of like your clothes and your bags and you have pieces for years and like they're important to you whereas like i I throw my clothes in a ball and it's all from Amazon.

Like,

your things are so important to you, and you have such pride in them that I wouldn't be mad or surprised if you were very territorial with them.

But whenever any sister like needs something, you're always like, Take it, no, take it.

You're so, that can never be me.

Like, you will give someone a shirt or a bag or whatever that you haven't even worn yet, which is crazy.

Yeah, if they needed it and it was like the right thing for the occasion, then my sister is gonna like step out into the world feeling and looking her best.

Yeah, but maybe it's shocking because, like, as kids, that was was pretty much the only thing we ever thought about was like somebody wearing someone's shirt without permission.

Like, clothes, we were so territorial over them.

Mm-hmm.

I wonder if

that was a change.

Yeah, maybe.

Or, like, as kids, like, we were all,

I don't know, maybe like slobs and you didn't know if you were, like, going to get your things back.

But now it's like, you want to ruin my dress?

Like, you'll go get it dry cleaned.

Slobs, that's true.

Even though I am still a slob, I do feel like maybe now is a good time to mention.

I did borrow this like green Abercrombie set.

It wasn't that crazy.

It was not expensive.

And I went to Outback Steakhouse and ate a bloom and onion.

It was so oily.

There was like two drops of oil on the shirt and like I don't know how to get rid of it.

It's fine.

It wasn't like something super fancy.

If that outfit like vanished from my closet, I don't know if I would ever notice.

Okay, it's not like one of your prized possessions.

No, but you know how sometimes like you'll think of a clothing item that you once owned and you're like, of course, I didn't ever get rid of it, but I've never, I haven't seen it in years.

There are things that come into my closet, never to be seen again.

Yeah, I wonder where those things are.

Maybe it's like your sister stained it with a bloomin' onion and just stashed it in the incinerator.

Yeah, it's like one of those mysteries of the universe.

Yeah, like I think of certain like t-shirts or something.

I'm like, I never threw that away or donated it.

So like, where the hell is it?

I know that happens.

Like, I'll wake up in the middle of the night and just like be thinking about a random piece of clothing I bought three years ago that I never wore.

Yeah.

We've got a great show today.

We've got Stories Galore, and I can't wait to talk to you about it, but I did want to mention how we kind of,

I believe, it was on Friday where Ben was on the toast and we were talking about Francia Raisa.

And I was telling Ben that Francia Reisa is actually a really good friend of Josh Peck and they should get her on the podcast.

And Ben was like, oh, let me ask.

And, you know, everything just happened so easily for Ben.

Yesterday they recorded with Francia Reisa.

That's why they usually release their episodes on Monday of the Good Guys podcast.

But today,

this week they released it on Tuesday because they wanted to squeeze in this episode with Francia.

And I actually listened in while they were recording because I just was like so interested and I wasn't doing anything else.

And you got to listen to it.

It's out now.

You can watch it on YouTube or you can listen to it as a podcast.

She was really

very open.

And I think a lot of people will enjoy the episode.

One, just like she's a cool, fun, young, funny, pretty girl.

And she's really talented and she has like an interesting background.

But then, of course, you know, they dove deep into the kidney gate.

And she's clearing some things up.

Okay.

I will be listening.

Obviously, I want to know all about her and her her story and kidney gate.

Yeah,

it was very interesting.

Leave it to Ben and Josh to like stumble into, you know, the most premium guest of the year.

Right, of course.

Only the best for the good guys.

And she also talks a lot about like the ins and outs of being a kidney donor.

One thing I learned from her episode, which I found to be so interesting, is that if you are somebody who has given someone a kidney and years later or however much time later, your remaining kidney fails or something happens and you end up needing a transplant, because you were a donor, you automatically go to the top of the list.

Wow.

I mean, I know.

It makes sense.

It makes sense because it's like you are missing a kidney because you gave one.

You gave it.

Yeah.

But

do some people just get their kidney out and then go on with one kidney?

Yeah.

Everyone does.

You only need one kidney to live.

Right.

So then this is going to sound so dumb.

The people who like need a kidney transplant, do they lose both kidneys?

No, it's a good question.

I was actually thinking about that.

Or maybe the other kidney isn't strong enough.

Yes, yes, yes.

But like a healthy person

in this life only needs one kidney to survive.

And the problem is, is like one, I think one is really essentially supposed to be a backup for the other.

Yeah, but if they're both not operating at 100%, then you do need to bring in a second kidney.

Or if you only have one because you had donated one and I'm not talking one.

I'm not talking one.

Okay, okay.

Okay, okay.

Kidneys now sounding like funny to say.

Kidney.

Garage, garage, garage, garage, garage.

Yeah.

What?

No, like, we know.

You roll your eyes at me, wench.

Like, we know you think the word garage is funny, like, over and over again.

Wow.

Oh, we know.

We know.

Yes, Jackie, it's called relating to another person in a conversation.

I know the feeling you're talking about with kidney because I get that feeling when I say the word garage a lot.

And I know that you get that feeling because you tell us all the time.

Because I'm so open and authentic and honest.

Yes, thank you for reminding everyone.

Bishop, kidney, kidney, kidney.

It sounds fine to me.

I'm like, garage.

Help.

This one.

I for help.

I'm going to miss you so much when you go on maternity leave.

Like, it's just, it's not the same when Jax isn't here.

I know.

Well, I'm going on maternity leave very soon, which I am excited about.

I'm going to miss the toast and I'm going to miss podcasting with you, but I am excited for like that.

Joie de Viv we'll have when we come back together.

That, yes, like a renewed spirit between us.

Also, I know you didn't do it on purpose, but but I'm like eternally grateful to you for planning your maternity leave in August because August is really a dead month for celebrities for podcasting.

Like our numbers, they're not great right now.

I'm not going to lie.

Like they're, they're taking a dip.

Yeah.

Well, no, they're, they're,

we were peaking, and now you could tell people are on vacation, people aren't like listening on their commute to work, they're listening to the radio while having like a beer with their friends, they're not listening

to podcasting.

It's always like a slow, low month for us.

So if we have to take time off, I'm glad it's not like, you know, February.

February is lit, you know.

January is lit.

Oh, so good.

So August, like, I'm totally fine with.

And, you know, while you're on maternity leave, like, I could take a trip.

And what's a better time to take a trip than August?

Where should I go?

Santrope, south of France?

That's where everyone goes in August.

I think I should go.

Okay.

Bye, turdy loo.

Bye, turdy loo.

Are you really going to take a trip?

I don't know.

Like, the world is my oyster, no?

It is.

Wow, I've been hanging out with Olivia too much because that is so something Olivia would say.

She loves like a, like a Hallmark hallmark card.

The world is your oyster.

Like what's it called?

Only little colloquialism.

Like a little like colloquialism.

Is that what it's called?

Like a phrase.

Like a little quote that you would see on the bottom.

She always says YOLO.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Everything.

She'll rationalize everything.

Anything.

Like you'll say, oh, why did you do this?

She'll explain why she did it.

And she was like, YOLO.

No, and she's so right.

Like, you only live once.

Yeah.

It's like facts.

So funny.

She's so funny.

The episode yesterday was really funny what's also so funny because we're just like

we are funny comedians we are funny you podcasted with olivia yesterday and then this weekend i podcasted with snitch for the patreon we did an audio only episode and it was just like so funny i can't explain why but she was just cracking me up she's so

she's so snitchy

You know, and

you've podcasted with her recently, so like you've experienced it, but it was just hysterical.

And I'm excited for everyone to hear it.

Don't you feel like there's something going on with the snitch?

Kind of like a renewal of sorts.

She's kind of giving like extra snitchy energy these days.

Yeah, no, the snitch I've gotten, I've seen her a couple times in like the last week.

She's been a wonderful snitch.

Maybe she's the type of snitch who kind of blooms in summer.

She's a summertime snitch.

She would say so.

You know what she would say, and I would roll my eyes.

Something about seasons?

She's that she's in her season, yeah.

Yeah, is that like one of the phrases phrases you hate?

No, I just like didn't think it made a lot of sense.

Interesting.

I just didn't like it.

I just feel like seasons change.

No, that's pretty much what they invented.

They don't last very long.

Like,

so what's like what happens when the season's over?

A new season begins.

But then it's not her season.

I just found it faulty.

No, you're 100% right.

The fault in our season.

It was just very limiting, I felt.

I understand that completely.

She was saying it literally a year and a half ago.

And

I feel like she's more in her season now than she was a year and a half ago.

So I feel like maybe she was saying it.

What do you hope for that?

What do you hope?

Like, you're constantly becoming even more in your season, not like less as time goes on.

Are we supposed to be more growing?

You're not in your season.

Then it's not a season.

Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're the type of person

who's like, you know, obsessed with like facts, yeah, okay, you're right.

You know, yeah, yeah, I agree.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Anyways, we do have a good show.

We've got some stories for you.

I missed commentating on some of the stories that happened Friday and Monday, but I'll be okay.

I'll be okay.

Like, Megan Fox responded to all the weirdos.

And what did you think about the tone of her response?

Honestly, I liked it.

It was like so aggressive.

She was talking literally to us.

No, I don't think she was talking to me, actually, because I

was saying, like, there's definitely more to the story.

And I felt like, even though she was being like rude and technically, she was asking for money from the people, she's also calling weirdos.

Um, so true.

I like that she did provide some context.

Like, do you guys ever consider that maybe this makeup artist doesn't want her celebrity clients like having that dynamic between them that like they paid all her bills?

She asked me to put, like, I said, the nail artist asked for her to post the link.

And, like, what do you say to that?

Yeah, yeah.

So, I was shocked that she commented on it.

I thought it was like beneath her to do so, but I'm glad that she did so in a way that had some character.

Yeah, and personally.

But it was different.

It was different.

Yeah, it was.

It wasn't just like, you know, everyone worked really hard on this movie.

The cast and the crew.

The cast and crew.

Yeah.

I'm happy she didn't throw the cast and the crew under the bus either.

Yeah, so she had something to say, and I enjoyed consuming it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, and what was your take on Cardi B?

Oh my God, I'm all over over the place.

Because at first I was like, you get her, Cardi.

Me too.

I'm like, you make an example out of her.

Fuck around and find out.

This is why context is everything.

Yep.

Everything.

Because even though she said, she said splash water on my P word.

And then, but then apparently she also said, but not on my face.

So clearly the girl splashed her and got on her face.

But you've seen the video of the girl, she does it.

And then she's like, sorry, sorry.

I think that she didn't mean to get on her face.

She probably turned around quicker than the girl was expecting.

Yeah, but also, like, how do you tell people to splash you, but not your face?

Like, you can control the level of splash.

Like, you know, she wants the doors of the floodgates.

And literally.

Given that she was the one who opened the gates, like, she doesn't get to have that reaction.

Yeah.

You know?

When I had thought it was just like a completely unprompted, unprovoked thing, I'm like, get her.

Like, she's so entitled to that sort of reaction.

But context, like, actually really made me feel bad for the girl.

Yeah.

Okay, good.

I'm glad I got your opinion.

Yeah, so not everything is so cut and dry.

Yeah.

I just hope like when an entertainer does get unfairly thrown something at, like they do have that energy.

Me too, me too.

It was a good example for like what type of energy you should have in the correct situation.

But it was not the correct situation.

Correct.

Also, I think her aim was off and she hit a different girl.

Yes.

Oh, the microphone didn't even hit the girl who threw it.

She hit someone else.

If you're going to throw something at someone, like you better get the right girl.

Yeah, a hundred percent.

Like your aim has to be on point.

Mm-hmm.

And it wasn't.

No.

So those were my thoughts.

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Arthur.

First story.

Oh, we forgot about our Hannah Montana transitions.

Oh,

yeah.

I like that.

Because I like it.

Yeah.

Our first story is actually some crazy news that just came out.

So it is

actually not the worst thing that we started this afternoon.

But a bombshell lawsuit says that Lizzo forced her dancers to eat bananas from sex workers' vaginas during an Amsterdam trip, amongst other allegations.

But I do think that is the most headline-grabbing one.

Yeah.

Three of Lizzo's former dancers are suing the good as hell performer, as well as big girl Big Touring and Shirlene Quigley, for allegedly subjecting them to endure weight-shaming, sexually denigrating behavior, and pressuring them to participate in disturbing sex shows.

The plaintiffs, Ariana Davis and Crystal Williams, claim in the lawsuit filed on Tuesday, obtained by page six, that they eventually were fired.

that they were eventually fired and the third plaintiff said that she resigned over Lizzo's stunning behavior.

While on a concert trip with the award-winning Grammy artist to Amsterdam in February 2023, the plaintiffs claim that Lizzo invited them for a night on the town, which ended in the city's red light district, the areas known for sex theaters, sex shops, and clubs and bars where nudity is on full display.

The lawsuit states, quote, things quickly got out of hand.

Lizzo began inviting cast members to take turns touching the nude performers, catching dildos launched from the performers' vaginas, and eating bananas protruding from the performer's vaginas.

No.

The suit also claims that Lizzo allegedly pressured and goaded Davis into touching one nude performer's breasts.

The plaintiffs claim that just a month later, Lizzo deceived them once again into attending a nude show, thereby robbing them of

the choice not to participate.

Davis also claims in the lawsuit that at one point, she had no choice but to soil herself on stage during an excruciating re-audition, fearing the repercussions of excusing herself to go to the bathroom.

Eventually, Lizzo allegedly fired Davis on the spot after learning Davis had recorded one of their meetings, even though though it was in order to have a copy of the notes that the artist had provided.

Rodriguez resigned shortly thereafter out of solidarity with Davis and the disrespect Lizzo allegedly showed her.

I mean, this is like so disturbing and gross.

And it just came out, so I don't think Lizzo's responded yet.

And I'm sure she won't, just because, like, again, it's like one of those things where you really can't say anything because it's like an ongoing legal matter.

Right.

I do want to say the girl who got fired for recording,

I can actually see that being, I don't know what they're suing for if it's like wrongful termination.

Like I do feel like that's like a big no-no.

And I could see like

Lizzo winning that legal argument because yeah, whatever her reasoning was, like recording and I'm sure she signed NDAs.

It's like a direct violation of a contract or whatever.

But the other stuff in this lawsuit is so deeply disturbing.

Especially as it pertains to like forcing people who work for you.

And it's not only people who work for you.

There's such a power dynamic between like celebrity and you know civilian.

There's so many different dynamics.

Forcing them to attend like really disturbing, graphic, nude, lewd, I believe the word is,

performances and like forcing them to participate is like actually really traumatizing.

And this is really disgusting.

Yeah.

So what they're suing for is general and special damages as well as punitive damages and attorneys fees.

And it also says that Lizzo and her managed team treated their performers, the way that they treated them seemed to go against everything Lizzo publicly stands for.

Privately, she weight shames her dancers and demeans them in ways that are absolutely demoralizing.

I think also

weight shaming.

Fat shaming

or skinny shaming.

Like maybe if they were losing weight, that's not a good thing.

I couldn't really can't see Lizzo fat shaming someone.

Like that's literally her whole

yeah, but they didn't say fat shaming, which makes me like they said they did say weight shaming, so I feel like it could just be the opposite.

Yeah, like maybe if some of the dancers just like from being on tour or whatever, like started to lose weight, Liz's whole aesthetic is that she wants to prove like big girls can be dancers too.

So if they're like not corroborating with that sort of image, I guess.

Or they don't have like the look that she wants.

Right.

She'll start shaming them into.

Which is like exactly what the industry has been doing for years.

The opposite, but it's still the same.

It's wrong.

It's wrong both ways.

It's a core issue.

No, I think this is shocking.

One, the allegations are shocking.

The banana and the vagina and the sex

things are wild, but also like this is so incongruous with Lizzo's public image.

Like, I think Lizzo's fans and just,

you know,

people

are, have been really, like, taken aback by this.

Even though the news just dropped, it's, it's very shocking to hear from.

So not Lizzo.

It's not that.

It's not the Lizzo we know, but again, we don't know these people.

That's so true.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I mean, this will all have its day in court.

Right.

Lizo will have an opportunity to defend herself.

And maybe make a statement.

I feel like she could say,

while this is an ongoing legal matter, like everything alleged, I feel like a lot of people would be like, this is completely untrue.

I look forward to my day in court.

Yeah.

Especially if that's what they're going to say in court.

I don't know why you couldn't put that out in a prior statement too.

Yeah, yeah.

But.

But is the story like big enough?

I also could see people like not caring.

I feel like people just like love Lizzo and like whatever.

No, I think it's big like because I saw the initial articles in page six and then like my Instagram just like random publications accounts.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, because some of the allegations are extremely

fucking gross.

Yeah.

Attention grabbing.

Yeah, because like I feel like celebrities get sued all the time like for being like horrible to work with, but the specificity of these

accusations are so

one specific and be like really disturbing once you read them yeah yeah so we always get you know like uh toxic workplace right a lot of these like vague terms which could be really bad

could be really bad or it could just be like a person's particular experience yeah and i think when they use big like those

buzzwords like toxic workplace they've kind of lost their meaning yeah because they never say what it actually was and we're like okay toxic workplace like maybe you got yelled at But this is like actually a toxic workplace.

Yes, and incredibly specific.

And also,

as stated, very different than the Lizzo that we think we know.

This is big, if true.

Because sometimes you hear about someone who's like, you know, a mean boss and you're like, yeah, they seem like a mean boss.

Well, this is like the conversation.

And that's their brain.

Or even like Miranda Lambert.

Yes.

Oh, that's who we were talking about, Miranda Lambert.

Like her situation, like it didn't affect her at all.

Like nobody pulled her music from country radio, like because she's the bad bitch of country.

Like it doesn't, it makes sense.

That's like, so Miranda, but Lizzo's kind of this queen and like kind of kind of carved out this whole space in the industry for, you know, being different, being inclusive, being kind.

So it's like, I'm trying to think of an example.

Like Ellen is the example.

Yes.

Yes.

You took the words right out of my mouth, Jackie.

Ellen is an example.

When your brand is kindness and in turn, you end up not only not being kind, but being like the nastiest bitch alive, like it's jarring.

Yeah, and it makes the fallout from the situation a lot bigger and worse than it would be if it was like, you know, I don't know, Simon Cowell is a hard cross to please.

So true.

Like, that's so Simon.

Right.

So we will definitely keep tabs on this story.

Hopefully Lizzo will speak out or the trial will start soon and we'll get more information.

But this was just crazy.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

I am.

Honestly, we have two very sad stories from yesterday.

I know.

I'm like really upset about Angus Cloud.

Yes, Angus Cloud has passed away.

His family announced yesterday after struggling, intensely struggling with grief following the loss of his father, Connor Hickey, the week before.

The 25-year-old actor was found dead in his home on Monday.

Before that, the actor and his family had reportedly traveled to Ireland last week to bury their patriarch.

The family said, it is with the heaviest heart that we have to say goodbye to an incredible human today.

As an artist, a friend, a brother, and a son, Angus was special to all of us in so many ways.

Last week, he buried his father and intensely struggled with the loss.

The only comfort we have is knowing Angus is now reunited with his dad, who was his best friend.

No, this is like so sad.

Margo sent the link in our chat, and you know, when something shocks you so much, like, you can't even read it.

Like, yes.

I knew what it said, but I'm like, wait, it was not computing logistically in my brain.

I am so sad.

And I think that, you know, any life lost, but someone's so young whose career had just started, like Euphoria is his first project, and he shot to fame, and every brand wanted to work with him.

I think he was like a face of Louis Vuitton because his character in the show, for anyone who doesn't watch, like, he is like a drug dealer, but he's kind of weirdly like the moral compass of the show.

He like looks out for his younger brother and he's like,

he knows what he's doing is wrong, but like he just needs the money and he's kind of like a therapist to a lot of people he's one of my favorite characters and he's a lot of people's favorite character and I think it was he's not an actor like he's not a trained actor this was his first job so I really feel like the character he played was really similar to the type of person he was like a very sweet soft-spoken boy and I don't know any of that to be like fact or not it's just the vibe that I get and it just I don't know I'm like a really this is one of the saddest things I've that's I've heard in a really long time yeah I don't want Euphoria so I honestly was not familiar with him but this story is is just so incredibly sad.

Like, that's how profoundly moved he was and devastated by the loss of his dad.

I mean, they didn't say cause of death, but the family

that they said the actor was open about his battle with mental health and hoped that his passing could be a reminder to others who are struggling, that they are not alone and should not fight this on their own in silence.

I feel like it's a very respectful way of saying suicide.

Yes.

And that's just so sad.

It's there's no other, there's really nothing else to say other than this is one of the saddest things.

And

it's just terrible.

Yeah.

I do

like he is an active and sort of kind of main character in Euphoria.

I know that Euphoria, I believe they said that the next season, not that this matters literally at all, but like this is what people talk about.

Yeah.

I believe they said the next season, which I don't even know when it's coming out, but it's like five years in the future.

Oh, I saw a headline that it was like not coming out for a few years.

No, no, no.

Oh,

no.

It's not coming out for a while and it's also set in like five years from now.

Oh, okay.

I probably saw something that was like New Euphoria is set in 2026 or something.

Right.

And I thought it meant it was coming back then.

Understood.

So I feel, I really hope that they like honor him because he was such an important part and like really just kind of like the soul of the show.

So I hope that they honor him.

I'm sure that they will and it'll be really sad to watch.

Yeah.

Well, our next story is also very sad because Paul Rubens, also known as Pee-Wee Herman, the actor, has died at the age of 70 after a private bout of cancer.

So Paul Rubens, the actor best known for portraying the irrepressibly, joyfully, childlike Peewee Herman, died Sunday night after a private bout of cancer.

He wrote in a statement posted to Instagram after his death, please accept my apology for not going public with what I've been facing in the last six years.

I've always felt a huge amount of love and respect for my friends, fans, and supporters.

I've loved you all so much and enjoyed making art for you.

Can I ask you a question?

Yes.

Do you know what I'm going to say?

You're going to ask about his scandal.

Yeah, like, how do you reconcile someone's death when they've done horrible things?

Okay, do you know what he did?

Child pornography.

Public masturbation.

Okay, so I looked into it because I was like, everyone's saying the nicest things about Pee Wee Herman.

But then I remember.

But then I was like, but isn't there some like stain from the past?

And I looked into it.

And the first thing was

not public masturbation.

He was caught with his like penis out at a

like a porn show, one of those porn theaters.

Like, so in a place with adults watching porn, he had his penis out, which was so shocking.

One, like it was the 90s and two, it was just incongruous with him being this child performer and like, right, you know, him in his private life doing something that was more weird than the character that we know.

But it was like a victimless crime that's, I mean, he was just attending like a legal thing and had his wiener out.

I've kind of remembered the story as him being in like a movie theater with his pecker out with other people around, but no, it was a pornhouse.

Yeah.

So in 2002, he was also charged with one misdemeanor count of possessing material depicting children engaged in sexual conduct, a charge that was later dropped with the actor pleading guilty to a charge of obscenity instead.

Okay, so then I saw that child pornography thing, and it was like cartoon, uh, images or cartoons that were like vintage, like they're from 30 years ago.

It wasn't like active child pornography, like we think about it.

And I don't even know if

you're not cartoons, like um, editorial.

Hold on, I was just reading this.

I know what you mean.

Pee Wee Herman scandal.

This is what it said.

I just want to speak correctly on it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

I feel like the first one you wouldn't get arrested for today, like having your penis out at a sex show.

Yeah, and they weren't, the charges were dropped.

Got it.

So, okay.

In 2001, police searched his home in the Hollywood Hills.

They seized boxes of materials that his spokesperson characterized as vintage erotica.

The lawyer said the charges of possessing images of child pornography were untrue and without merit, and his publicists said the handful of images came from more than 10,000 vintage magazines seized from the actor's home, some of which were three decades old.

The charges were dropped in 2004 when he pleaded guilty to a lesser obscenity charge.

So it's not like child pornography.

It's like, as we think of it today, it's like these children are exploited.

Yeah, no, I think of like Mark Saling, who had like, you know, files and files of homemade, terrible, exploitive, nude children.

Yeah.

Not that.

Not Squeaky Clean, who I don't know what the images were.

And there's all, like, there's so many things of like there's charges against him, charges dropped.

When the charges are dropped, are you not in it?

Like, can we not move on to it?

That's from a question.

That's a question.

I don't know.

It's a little dicey, and I don't know.

Actually, totally random.

Like, literally, I don't know.

This is not a good tangent, but I was just thinking about prison.

Last night, I watched

Jellyroll has a documentary on Hulu.

And I really, like, obviously, I know him because he's country, but, like, I don't really know his story at all.

And it was fascinating.

I highly recommend the documentary.

He, um,

and like, I know that he has, like, these incredibly devout, obsessed fans.

And, like, I didn't really understand why.

Um, and his whole thing is, is addiction.

He was, you know, a pretty big drug addict and drug dealer.

And he was in and out of juvie and, you know, adult prison for like, you know, the formative years of his life.

And he finally got his act together and just kind of focused everything he was focusing on drugs, putting into music.

And he talked a lot about how like he trades one vice for another and how like he talked about his weight actually really openly and how like food is definitely one of the things he traded for drugs and like it's better, but he's now obese and like his words, not mine.

And like it's healthy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But he's like, it's better than, you know, crack.

It was really an interesting documentary.

I actually think you would like it.

And now I feel like I understand because it doesn't feel like he kind of came out of left field into the music space, but like all these fans.

Yeah.

But so like addiction and recovery is so his beat.

And I think that's like those are the people who are really impacted by his music and he it was actually really amazing He likes you know spends so much time and money while he's out on the road visiting rehab facilities and juvenile like delinquent centers I don't know if they still call them that but um and he brings them food and like if they have any passions like he bought this girl a guitar just so she could like focus her energy on that instead of you know like being with the wrong crowd.

It was a really good documentary.

Okay, I'll check it out.

And he was talking about, I'm sorry, this is, I remember why I thought of it.

He was basically saying he has so much guilt for the things he did that ended him in prison, ended up in prison for him.

Like, yeah, he sold drugs, but then he had like armed robbery and like he hurt a lot of people.

And he feels like he really can't move on.

And that's why he does all these things.

I think he feels this like immense amount of guilt.

And he never lives in the present because he's so stuck in the past.

He's like, I don't know how or when like people can forgive me and like I can forgive myself for the things that I did.

And he's like clearly a good person.

He just like was a troubled.

teen who hurt people.

And that's what it reminded me of because it's like, at what point do you, you know, move on?

The P.

Maybe Herman thing is is different because I feel like when you really look into it, your rights are not like,

they're not the crazy, like they're not.

It's not like, especially considering what we see in here today, and especially out of Hollywood.

But

I was just looking more like, so he was fined $100 for the, and he did three years probation and agreed to register as a sex offender.

So,

yeah.

Okay, wait, now I want to backtrack a little bit.

I feel like being registered as a sex offender is like no small thing.

This is what he said at the time.

He said, I'm glad the prosecutors finally dismissed the child pornography charge without me or the taxpayers having to pay for a costly circumstances.

circus-like trial.

I'm disappointed any part of my collection was ever deemed inappropriate.

Taking responsibility by calling a few images in this collection obscene and paying a $100 fine seemed like the sanest way to make it end.

He said, I don't want anyone for one second to think that I am titillated by images of children.

It's not me.

You can say lots of things about me and you might.

The public may think I'm weird.

They may think I'm crazy or anything that anyone wants to think about me.

That's all fine, as long as one of the things you're not thinking about me is that I'm a pedophile, because that's not true.

Okay, but he's a sex offender.

Yeah, that was a part of a plea deal in order to not

go to trial.

Anyways, like I said,

interesting.

I'm

good.

Context is key, but him being a sex offender definitely changes my perspective a little bit.

Well, your perspective was like really negative before.

Yes, yes.

You said how do you recognize a person who's said horrible things

in the on the scale of horrible things this is bad but not even close to like some of the other things we see you're correct yeah

interesting but i i also like i don't know what the

the ball

know the images i don't want to know agent i don't want to know

rest in peace rest in peace pee wee herman

i used to fuck so hard with pee we actually but i also feel like since he's past like, not a lot of people are talking about all that stuff.

No, that's why.

It's so funny because I knew about it.

And this morning when we were on the plane, Ben was reading a newspaper weirdly.

And he was like, Peewee Herman died.

I'm like, oh my God, do you live under a rock?

And then the article also mentioned his crimes.

And Ben was like, wait, I didn't know that.

Why is nobody talking about that?

Why is everybody praising him?

And I'm like, no, it's a good question.

Yeah.

I'm not sure.

I don't have all the answers.

And now he's gone.

So let him rest in peace.

Rest in peace, sir.

Or rip, Peewee.

Rip, rip.

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Yeah, well, um.

Our next story update, Bibi Rexa confirms a breakup with her boyfriend, Kian Safari, after the body shaming text.

These two are, by the way, body shaving text is misleading.

Yeah, I agree.

Wait, I have some thoughts.

So BB Rexa reportedly gave London Concert Growers an emotional update on her relationship on Friday.

Before performing Atmosphere, she asked the audience members to help her.

She said, I just went through a breakup, so I might get a little emotional.

I can't blame myself for getting lost in the promise of you, and I can't blame you for leaving.

Later in the concert, she teared up over a fan sign telling her that she was enough.

She also detailed her plans to look for a new boyfriend at the Heaven Nightclub, the Outlet reported.

E-news reported on Monday.

I can't blame him for leaving either.

If anybody ever screenshotted my fucking personal text messages, like, you bet your ass I'm never talking to you again.

You don't think she broke up with him?

She said, I don't blame you for leaving.

Well, that was in her lyric.

Oh, oh, I'm sorry.

I thought that was like part of her monologue before the song.

Oh, no, that's her song Atmosphere.

But yeah, that is, that is confusing.

I feel like she broke up with him.

I broke up with who.

But she should have broken up with him.

But you know what?

Like, these these two are not for each other.

A relationship cannot survive that if we don't have a boundary between private and public, especially when you're a celebrity.

Good day, sir.

But I was in the car yesterday.

The radio was on and like some radio hosts were talking about this story.

And I was actually interested to hear what they were going to say because I feel like they don't ever like, you know.

Say anything.

They're probably no, they don't have hot takes.

They like regurgitate, like, you shouldn't talk about a woman's body.

And like, of course you shouldn't, but did you read the text message?

Because it's much more layered than that.

Right.

So I was like, I wonder what they're going to say.

Like, are they just going to be like corny, be like, bad, Kian?

Right.

But what one of the guys said was, like, listen, if your wife or your girlfriend ever asks you, have I put on weight?

Or how do I look?

You just lie.

You just say, you look great.

You say, no, I don't see a weight gain.

And that's like, and the female host was like, yeah, some, she's like, yeah, I love honesty, but sometimes, like, what good is it?

And I was just like, I feel like that's bad advice.

Am I crazy?

I would never ask that question unless I truly wanted to.

Could handle the answer.

So if I'm going to say that and you're going to lie to me, like I'm going to be vulnerable and you're lying, like, no, I actually, what are women stupid?

Like, I don't know.

I think this guy,

BB Rex's boyfriend was in an impossible situation.

Either he lies or he says the truth and then he's like, you know, blasted for body shaming her.

In the text, we had seen that she had asked him to.

Yes, that's the whole story.

Like, so

honestly, I understand why this guy is just like, just say they look good, like, whatever.

Right.

No, then, like, no, you need to be honest.

Like,

only if somebody asks, don't offer that information up.

Of course,

we're saying if somebody asks, or like, you know, you're getting ready for an event, like, do I look good?

You shouldn't say anything other than yes.

Yeah, I'm just at a place in my life now where, like, I know if I look good and I know if I look bad.

Like, Ben's opinion truly means nothing to me.

Like, that's true.

Sometimes I get dressed.

He's like, I don't think that looks right.

I'm I'm like, oh, cool.

You're wrong.

Like, I'm good.

Well, I guess, like, if the question was framed, like, I've gained weight, have you noticed?

That's just, why would anyone ask that question?

Yeah.

No, it's, it's never going to end well.

No, never.

So don't be just like blanketing.

I don't want to stay away from women who ask that question.

Because it's never going to end well.

I don't think like blanket lying should be your go-to.

Like, relationships are meant to be like places of honesty and vulnerability.

No, but some.

Right?

I, yeah, no, I agree.

But it doesn't work out.

No, I know.

Kian got in trouble.

And it sounded like he could, he, he couched his whole sentence with love and you're beautiful to me.

And

even though he was answering honestly, like, it's not like he said it in a mean way.

Yeah, that, like, that situation with BB kind of backfired.

I actually was really surprised at how many people on the internet were giving their takes and like were actually critically thinking and like looking into context clues because i feel like we see that and everyone's just like oh fuck this guy but like if you gave it like five minutes of thought

you were able and like you thought about it critically like i i think there was enough context in the text to like make an argument for his side and i was actually really surprised at the amount of people i saw like just giving their opinions on it not just giving that sort of regurgitated like oh man never comment on a woman's body like that's like because that's not what was happening here you shouldn't comment on a woman's body but let's not use that that doesn't apply here yeah but like if you're asked asked a question, like, don't you also have to get an answer?

It's not, it's rude not to.

Right.

So either you're commenting on a woman's body or you're a liar, which are both bad.

Or you're, or you're not answering your question.

And that's rude.

Yeah.

It's, yeah, I don't know.

It's interesting.

It's a no-win situation.

So I understand why, like, you know, the guy would just be like, I'll just say what I know she wants to hear.

By the way, I did figure that these two were broken up.

I didn't think that they could make it back after that.

So this is not news to me.

Well, it's not.

I didn't even think about it.

I was like, yeah, duh.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Is there a fifth and final story about Taylor's Lift?

No.

Did you see the news that, like, I don't know, it came out that since her U.S.

tours had to end this weekend as the last leg in LA,

that she gave out $5 million worth of bonuses to everyone who works on the tour.

Each truck driver got a bonus of $100,000.

I saw the truck drivers, but I didn't see the sum total of $5 million.

Yeah, I thought that was pretty sick like my queen continues to sleigh yeah but they did a great job and those trucks really trucked on time every time every well hopefully this last one let's not jinx it but they're by the way they're already there california to california they'll be fine right right right right no that was really cool like she's a queen yeah she is a queen um I'm gonna miss seeing all the clips and stuff, even though it's petered out and like Heim just isn't doing it for me.

So

it's okay.

I think the LA clips will be fun to watch.

I forget who I was just having this conversation with.

But now we're in our era of Beyonce clips.

Like now, my Instagram.

Remember how you were saying you were like, I feel like Beyonce's tour isn't like getting as much

hype as Taylor's.

I'm like, just wait till they switch continents.

Because now all of the people that I follow are going to see Beyonce.

I'm getting all of these like viral videos from accounts I don't follow of blue ivy and like and the outfits and everything.

And so now we're just swapping.

Yeah, me too.

Like I 100% you were totally right.

But I was just having this this conversation with someone.

I can't remember who, but, like, I find it so shocking that, like, I never really took to him

because they're three sisters.

They're Jewish sisters.

They're Jewesses.

There's so much about them that I should deeply relate to and just automatically stand for that reason.

And the fact that they're Taylor's best friends.

Maybe it's deep-rooted in jealousy that, like, it should be me.

Taylor's going to have a best friend.

That should be me holding your hand.

But I never really got on board.

I agree.

And I feel like I have the potential to like their music.

I love that one song.

The wire.

So it wasn't a fait accompli.

Yeah.

But I agree.

No, thank you.

No, I just, it's so bizarre to me.

And I can never.

I never vibe.

I don't, I'm not into any of it.

Maybe.

But I wish them truly the best.

They've been such good friends to Taylor.

Taylor's been very good to them.

I don't know what I'm trying to think.

I don't think it's like jealousy.

It's some sort of like projection.

Yeah.

It's like you're a bunch of Jewish sisters.

You're just like not doing what I would do.

Maybe it's like internalized anti-Semitism, honestly.

I don't know what the fuck it is.

Why don't I stand?

I don't think it is because I don't associate them with Judaism necessarily.

Maybe that's the problem.

Maybe they're not Jewish enough.

No, they're so proudly Jewish.

I know you don't follow them, but they're like, I follow them on TikTok.

They do this little Hanukkah series.

Like they're proud proud Jewesses.

Like, everyone knows that they're Jewish.

Their original band name was like the bagel bitches.

Like, no.

No, but also, it's like Chaim, like, Leheim.

Yeah, right.

Like, they're totally proud Jews.

I love that about them.

Okay.

I don't know what it is.

I think it's internalized anti-Semitism for real.

No, I don't think it is.

No, by the way, I don't either.

That was.

There's something there.

There's something.

Yeah.

There's a block.

We should explore that in therapy.

There's a block.

Yeah.

Okay, our fifth and final story.

I actually think this is going to be an interesting conversation starter because it's layered.

Love is blind alum, Nick Thompson.

So he was on season three.

He got engaged to Danielle.

Remember them?

She went to dance on tapers.

And he like wanted to not.

He revealed that he is on the brink of homelessness because nobody will hire him in the wake of the dating show as he's slamming the exploitative Netflix for paying him just $7.14 an hour with no residuals.

So

let me take it from the top.

Former Love is Blind star Nick Nick Thompson has revealed he's at the risk of losing his home after struggling to find a job in the wake of his 2021 appearance on Love is Blind, for which he said he was paid just $7.14 an hour when you break it down because they were working 24 hours.

24.

Because he said he was only paid $10,000 for 10 weeks of filming and that there has been zero discussion about residual pay despite the ongoing success of Love is Blind.

He said when you think about it.

You know, this is actually interesting timing with the strike.

Yes, it's a strike-related combo, and Bethany Frankel has also been getting in on this combo about reality stars and residuals.

So he said, when you think about the amount of money that's being made and the way that it's the path for future seasons and the fact that anyone can go on and watch me and I'm going to be homeless, I lost my job last November.

I'm having an incredibly hard time finding a new one, he said.

He said, I burned through my savings that cashed out my 401k.

I've got two months left in the bank to pay my mortgage.

I can't get a job because people don't take me seriously.

I was a VP in software for five years, so it's not like I don't have track record or experience or success.

He also described feeling like he was being kept prisoner during his time in the social experiment and believes that he and others

were manipulated by producers and psychologists.

He shed light on the brutal reality of filming Love is Blind.

He alleged that producers are in control of you 24 hours a day.

Quote, you are filming 18 to 20 hours a day, and that doesn't necessarily mean you're always going to be on TV, but you're milked from the moment you get there in the morning and you're milked all the way up until you leave.

Then when you go home at the end of the day, you're locked in your hotel room without a key, without your wallet, without money, without ID.

You are literally held captive like a prisoner, and there's absolutely no reason that you shouldn't be considered an employee when you're technically under the control of your employer for 24 hours a day.

Since appearing on Love is Blind, he's gone to co-launch the unscripted cast advocacy network, which helps provide mental health and legal support to past, present, and future reality stars.

His comments come just weeks after Bethany Frankel called for a reality TV reckoning amid the ongoing saga of sag, sag and sag

sag and WGA strikes she argued that reality stars should receive residuals for the shows that they appear in and that they should unionize you know what I feel like this conversation is actually really interesting and if anything seeing like the the um

the negative we know so many reality star success stories but we really don't hear about the ones that don't go as well and it really makes an argument for a union for uh reality stars and i had followed this because there's another element to this.

I had followed, he's always coming up on my TikTok, making videos about his stuff.

And he ended up, I think, having beef with Nick Vile.

Yeah.

Because Nick Vile talked about a lot of the stuff that,

what's his name?

The other, oh, his also name is Nick, right?

Nick, yeah.

Nick.

Nick Vile talked about a lot of the stuff that Nick was posting on social media and basically was like

too bad.

Okay.

I saw like months ago that they had beef about something.

And I think it was about,

oh, I think it was about like maybe mental health

exploitation of like people's

on reality TV.

Yeah.

And producers kind of controlling you and manipulating you.

And I think Nick was like, you know,

my words, not his, but like manipulation, being manipulated is like a choice.

Like, you know, you should be mentally strong enough to not, you know, which is like kind of like a crazy thing to say.

I wish I could recall better what I saw, but I feel like there was also the argument being made of like, if you have these mental health issues, you should not go on a reality show.

By the way, and you shouldn't.

And I think that they, a lot of the shows like The Bachelor, they do like fake ass psych evaluations for people because they don't, they want the crazy.

No, sorry, that's the, I'm sorry, I don't mean crazies.

I'm sorry.

That was not.

That's not what I meant.

They want the people who can be easily manipulated and can maybe have a breakdown because they think that's entertaining and it makes good TV.

So those psych evaluations are fake as hell.

Like they don't actually, they don't say, oh, this person's not stable.

Let's kid.

They say, oh, this this person's not stable, get them in.

Yeah, yeah.

They're actively seeking people who they couldn't

manipulate.

So when you think about like how reality stars don't have health insurance, reality stars don't get residuals, like the amount of people who go back and watch like old episodes of like The Bachelor, like all these things,

it is an argument for a union.

I actually think it's a good idea.

Yeah, I think it's a good argument.

And I feel like this entire time we've been talking about the strike, it's like, what about the reality TV piece?

Yeah, we've been talking about that.

And that's kind of just been like the gray area, but it's like, oh, they can still film and they can still promote and everything.

But

I think for some reality stars, they feel exploited.

Yeah, and we just are never talking about those people.

We're always talking about like current reality stars, successful reality stars.

Because they're just going on to launch their own business.

There is a lot to gain from going on reality TV, too.

Right, like you could argue someone's going back and watching this guy Nick's episode, so then they're going to follow him on Instagram, which is a form of currency that you can monetize.

Like there is an argument, but I don't think it's strong enough.

Like,

yeah, I could see how, you know, for the girls, especially, I think it's much easier to have a career afterwards.

I think I keep bringing up The Bachelor, but because it's like, it's the show that's produced the most reality stars, in my opinion.

And I think a lot of the guys really struggle money-wise afterwards.

It's not as easy.

Yeah, but also think about like the housewives.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I feel like, but that's a show of affluent people.

That's true.

But they're also jeopardizing their standing.

Yeah, they are.

But those are people who, like,

who, without the show, still have a house.

You know what I mean?

Not always.

And in a lot, and this is going to be a very like, you know, misogynistic thing, but in a lot of the situations, a lot of the housewives, it's like more traditional.

The man makes the money.

For sure, but that shouldn't dictate whether you got paid appropriately compensated.

Of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course.

But also, I think housewives are more appropriately

compensated.

First of all, I think the starting rate is like $10,000 a season, which is what they were making on Love is Blind, but you don't have to surrender your ID and your wallet

and, yeah, be in a situation like that.

But also with a show like Love is Blind, it's like you don't know who's going to

go all the way,

get does quote-unquote deserves the biggest paycheck, contributes the most to the storyline.

So everybody gets paid the same whether, you know,

you're a star or not.

But I guess if you don't get engaged and you don't go into the next phase, you probably don't get $10,000 for that.

Right.

Like your paycheck, I think, is directly correlated to the amount of time you spend on the show.

And if you don't make it out of the pods with a partner, your time is up.

Yeah, maybe it's like $1,000 an episode, actually.

Or it might be per week.

Yeah.

Because he said $10,000 for 10 weeks because he made it all the way to the end to the wedding.

But after, I think it's four weeks in the pod or maybe even two.

Yeah.

No, there's definitely like a conversation to be had here

like with residuals and also like on a 24-hour show, like you should be paid better.

But you shouldn't also expect to go on one episode, one season of reality TV and that that's gonna like cover you for the rest of your life.

You're still gonna need to work.

So he's still gonna have this issue of like people don't take you seriously and he can get residuals, but he'd be getting residuals.

Is that enough to live?

The residuals from Love is Blind, which is how many people on the show, how many people are even watching it past that big first boom.

Right.

And again, like we've said, like the streamers would have to release their numbers in order to like

figure out how much to pay people for residuals.

And the argument has been being made that those numbers aren't what people think they are.

Yeah, no, I think like if he got residuals, it would be helpful, but it wouldn't solve his problem.

No, not at all.

And the expectation that you go on a show and you get residuals for the rest of your life that are going to like keep your house for 10 episodes of a show.

Working actors who aren't like super famous, but have been, you know, working their whole lives, they get residuals.

I follow a bunch of people on TikTok who are like working actors, and they always are opening up their SAG residuals like from the mail on TikTok.

It's actually really interesting.

And they have like 20, 30, 40, 50 projects from the last however many years that keep, that's their salary residuals over, you know, for the rest of their life because it's multiple projects.

Everyone talks about the friends' residuals.

It wasn't just 10 episodes that they did.

It's, well, yeah, that's like the 1% in SAG that is really not applicable here.

I think it's like 99% of SAG members don't reach the minimum salary to get health insurance, which is $26,000 a year.

Got it.

It might not be 99%, but like it's an insane amount.

And so that's who this strike is really for.

It's not for Tom Cruise.

You know, he's fine.

No, no, I didn't think.

But the Tom Cruise, not Tom Cruise himself, but like people like Tom Cruise are standing in solidarity with the strikers.

I actually read that like Matt, because I saw like a bunch of people, like threads and stuff, people calling out certain celebrities who like haven't shown up physically at the picket line.

And then people were just like arguing in the comment section, and I was just reading it.

I think it was Matt Damon and Ben Affleck have been secretly paying the rents of a lot of SAG members, you know, who are either, you know, production coordinators, cameramen, like, you know, actual casting crew,

and secretly paying their rents, which I thought was really interesting.

That's really nice, but they haven't shown up at the picket line was the point.

Right.

And then people were arguing, like, well it's a security concern you can't leonard diaprio can't just stand in the street right and that's why you never know the whole story in context of everything it's true but i do think a reality union isn't the worst idea yeah and especially for like even shows like van der Pump rules like people really are always going back and watching those and it should be

you should be compensated.

Yeah, no, so I think it's fair and that is really sad for him.

I know, but I'm surprised we have like more people haven't come out.

If you think about how many reality shows, like, have like a blip of fame, everyone's obsessed with it for 35 seconds, like, too hot to handle, you know?

I think a lot of the girls end up becoming like social, successful social media creators, but I think that's really hard for the guys.

Yeah.

Some of them, like, do okay.

I mean, especially if you can, like, go back to your old job and do a little bit of social.

It's all good.

But.

I feel bad that he's having such a hard time.

Me too.

And I think he's got a good, he makes a good argument.

Yeah, he does.

And he's got Bethany on his side, and she's a strong force.

Yeah, no, if I want anybody on my side, like, because I'm in an argument with someone, like, I want Bethany on my side.

Totally.

Good stories, Jax.

Thanks.

Oh, nice long episode today.

Sorry it was so delayed, guys.

Thank you for your patience.

Again, love you dearly.

I don't know what that is.

We'll wrap it up so we can get it up.

Right.

Yeah, we will.

Jackie, we'll wrap it up.

Condom.

So we can get it up.

Penetration.

Condom.

Condom.

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