Grandma Is A Wench: Monday, July 31st, 2023

55m
  1. Cardi B Throws Microphone at Concertgoer Who Tossed a Drink at Her While Performing in Las Vegas (People) (11:14)
  2. Lisa Hochstein Slams Estranged Husband Lenny For Getting Engaged to ‘Mistress’ While Still Married (Page Six) (17:00)
  3. Harry Styles Flashes New Tattoo Seemingly Dedicated to Ex Olivia Wilde (Page Six) (24:05)
  4. Teresa Giudice Calls Sofia Vergara The ‘Rudest’ Celebrity She’s Ever Met (Page Six) (31:35)
  5. Musk Explains Why He’s Rebranding Twitter to X (CNBC) (40:16)


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morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

Happy Monday.

Hope everybody had an amazing weekend.

Today is such a special day.

I am still down here in Florida and I needed a co-host and honestly, there's nobody better, nobody greater.

Our older sister Olivia, is here joining me.

Hey, Liv.

Hi.

Thank you so much for having me.

You know what's so funny?

It's like people don't know me.

Yes.

Well, we have so many new toasters.

Yeah.

And you haven't been on the toast in quite a minute.

The last time you were on the toast, I don't even think you were a mom of two yet.

Were you?

So the last time I was on the toast was audio when you were at Stagecoach.

Yes.

So I don't like know how much that counts, even though I know you have a significant amount of podcast listeners.

So it definitely counts.

It counts.

But the last time I was video, you were still, both of you were still in the New York studio.

I was still still living in New York.

Yep, I remember that.

That was great.

We have that one photo of you and me, which will be like, we'll take another one today and it'll be the only photo used for the next like two years.

Yeah, that's the thing with Olivia's birthday.

I can never find a photo that either I don't hate or she doesn't hate.

Yeah.

So we have that one photo from the last time and today's, we'll take a photo after this and hopefully we both love it.

Yes.

However, we did decide yesterday in the car that we're over that like toxic.

We did.

We had that conversation.

I used to be absolutely crazy about it.

Like I was one of the first people like when Facebook came out that like I had to approve my tag photos.

And I just want to say like I'm done with that.

Like if I look bad in a photo, you can go fuck yourselves for talking about me behind my back, you know?

We used to be so crazy.

Like when we would take family photos, all four of us, we would have to like pass the phone around to edit it.

We were so mean.

And you know what?

Like, I think that's part of growing up.

Like, just fuck it.

Like, it's so exhausting to care so much.

You care so much.

And I just like, I don't care anymore.

No, I'm like, I do.

I do, but not at the scale that I did.

You know, I care, but like, really, not as much as I used to.

I'm sorry.

I just feel like I talk so loud, you know?

By the way, so this is a problem we have at the toast.

I talk so fucking loud.

Yeah.

And Jackie talks it like a normal person because she's like a quiet little girl.

She's lovely.

So my audio is always louder than Jackie's, but you're loud too.

So today we're just going to bust the speakers.

Bust the windows out your car, you know?

I bust my windows.

Are you a Glee fan?

I am, but you know, I, I watched Glee like when it was on

and then I stopped like when I went to college because it was like.

You were too old.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm, I never stopped.

You know, what's so funny?

Like you, I feel like we talk about this every time you come on the toast because we end up talking about Bravo and you really invented Bravo in the family.

Of course.

I remember when we were really young, you were watching like Jill's Aaron and that's how I started getting into it.

But now I know you don't watch it anymore, but like, what are you obsessed with pop culture wise?

Like I, I'm a gleek, you know, I'm a 20.

I love Twilight.

Like I have my things.

What are your things?

I know you're like a mom of two now.

So you obviously have, you know, like priorities beyond Twilight.

I

am Alex Earl all obsessed you are yeah i just love like i live for her tell me why because you want to like even though she's like the most like gorgeous creature with the sickest body like i really just resonate with that like

going out, getting drunk, like like just like that vibe.

Like I was that person.

And when you're in it, you feel like you're never not going to be it.

But now I'm so not it that it just like, it gives me like beautiful nostalgia for it.

You know, that's a really good way of pointing it.

That's like when they say, you know, you don't know that those are the days until the days are over.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm really like obsessed with her.

And like, I'm just not like into things that people are obsessed with.

Like, I do not watch Fanner Pump Rules.

I am like personally boycotting the new Rahoni for so many reasons.

Like, I just cannot get behind this stuff.

But there will be select things that you'll be like, Oliby, I think you'd really like this.

Like the first season of Salt Lake.

Real Housewives.

I really enjoyed that.

And I think it's because like I just really love the state of Utah.

Like we've always had wonderful times being there.

And I just liked that newness vibe um but yeah no I'm I'm into wait I'm sorry you said like you trust my opinion if I say like Olivia okay I will watch young children okay you guys Olivia will not fucking watch young children put it on and I was watching it like I was enjoying it but it's just like here's the thing is like I'm not like sitcom girly like I don't watch friends I don't watch the office like what I'm looking for is not something with like 12 seasons that's like syndicated and on for forever I'm looking for like murder mystery gonna find out in the last episode after eight was was part of this limited series that like the whodunit done it.

No, I get it.

I get it.

But will you trust me that like I'm your sister?

I love you.

I know you and I know what's good for you and young shell.

But by the way, I'm not resisting.

It's just not the priority for probably like today or this week, but that doesn't necessarily mean like next month starts August.

So like it could be the priority for the month, you know?

Okay.

I just, I just know you and Zach will love it and it's family friendly.

Kayla can watch it too.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

Listen, like I'm not, not down, you know?

Yeah.

So for anyone who's who's new here olivia is our older sister she's the you know she's in charge of us she always has been in charge of us um except some of us just can't be managed but she tries um you're a mom of two i am michaela and levi like the absolute apples of my eye and i really wanted to give everyone an update because whenever i come down here i pretty much sit on the podcast and like talk about how michaela will not acknowledge me i like give her so much love i'm obsessed with her and i just want her to reciprocate that and she's like the sweetest little girl to everyone except for me now i because you guys are the same person yes we are like we have a lot of like toxic, chaotic energy.

Totally.

So I wanted to give everyone an update because I've been here now for like five days and it's, it's a different girl.

Michaela is, you agree, like obsessed with me.

She's obsessed with you.

Yeah.

And she kind of like always was, but like you guys like to toy with each other, you know, like Antiquia, no, is like because she loves the attention from Antiquia.

I know.

But it was not, she was not like playing with me.

She just really didn't like me.

And I don't know what it was.

Maybe she's just grown up a little bit.

Maybe I'm a little bit more calm.

I I mean, I'm not, but we have had such a fabulous, like, I don't know when I'm leaving, but when I do, like, I will.

I never leave.

I will cry.

I will cry.

I know.

Michaela and I were so connected and we never were.

And it's just.

I mean, like you fully got in her bed.

I got in her bed and she didn't like cry.

She let me lay in her bed with her.

Yeah.

She lets me take pictures of her.

We have like little photo shoots on my camera when she dresses up.

Like it's just.

It's been such a delight.

And I just honestly wanted to bring you on here to say thank you for giving birth to literally the queeniest queen who ever queened.

Thank you so much.

Yeah, she's pretty epic.

She's such like I think everybody got a little glimpse of her in your TikTok when you're like, I want to address something.

And she's like, I want to dress too.

She's so girly.

She loves dress.

She loves bells.

She literally hysterically cried this morning because I would not put her back in her bell costume.

I'm like, it's Monday morning.

Like you cannot wear a bell costume.

She also cried last night when I got her ready for bed.

She wanted to sleep in her bell costume.

Yeah.

I think maybe we have to get her more costumes because she's only wearing the bell one.

Oh, by the way, she does have other costumes.

Like she has an Elsa and then she has like this other one that's kind of like garden fairy vibes.

And like when she's into something, like she's into it, like there's just no other way.

We're so similar.

Like when she becomes obsessed with something, I know thanks to me, I got her obsessed with high school musical.

You did, but it like that kind of ship has sailed right now.

No, when I got here, she got in bed with me.

I'm like, what do you want to watch?

She said, high school musical.

Well, because I think that's like your thing now.

But she's like, actually, my kids are super, like Levi especially.

He's the cutest little muffin man in the world.

Obsessed with like 1950s musicals.

So like we're really having like a bye-bye birdie moment right now, singing in the rain.

Like we listen to Bye Bye Birdie in the car.

Kayla's like, we love you, Conrad.

Like my bedroom wall, I share a wall with Kayla's bedroom and we put her to bed.

And I'm like, well, I'm laying in bed with Ben, like turning down for the night.

And this is what I hear.

We love you, Conrad.

Oh, yes, we do.

She like sings herself to sleep at like the highest decibel possible.

Also similar to you.

We're simpatico.

You are, you are.

So Olivia's going to join me for the fast five today.

We've got actually very good stories.

I threw a little business news in there because Olivia is our resident marketing girl.

Like Olivia knows everything about like, you know, business.

So she's going to give us some advice.

Actually, she's going to give Elon Musk some advice.

So I think without further ado, do that do,

it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know.

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I saw the news and then I kept seeing like different TikToks of different angles of this incident and I keep learning more information about it, but I really want to talk about it.

Cardi B throws a microphone at a concertgoer who tossed a drink at her while performing in Las Vegas.

So I feel like we all saw the clip, but if you didn't, during an outdoor set at a beach club in Vegas, the Grammy winner became the latest musician to be targeted with items thrown at them during a performance.

So in a now viral video of the incident, Cardi can be seen wearing an orange dress during the performance and looking surprised when a drink is thrown in her direction while performing Bodak Yellow.

In response, Cardi threw her microphone at the front row attendee whose security seemingly escorted away.

After the incident, the rapper tweeted a different video of the angle, which shows a clearer view of the fan attempting to throw their cup at Cardi B, who reportedly continued to her performance after the mic toss.

So

many thoughts.

So many thoughts.

Okay, my initial thought, I was like, you know what?

Good.

Fuck around and find out, bitch.

Like, we live in this age where people are so entitled when it comes to celebrities, BB Rexa, Kelsey Ballarini.

Like we see it all the time.

And I feel like as a performer, you're, you know, you're taught, of course, to never respond.

The customer is always right, bullshit like that.

And you know what?

No.

You're going to throw something at me, bitch.

I'm going to throw something at you.

Now, of course, Cardi's, you know, weapon was a lot heavier and more painful, I think, than a cup, a liquid.

But you know what?

Like.

The other girl started it.

So at first I was like, you know what?

Cardi B.

Well, there's a lot of things to unpack here because I watched like 45,000 different videos of this last night and I learned a couple of things that I think it's important to share.

Yep.

Number one, apparently at some point during the season.

Earlier.

Earlier, was it earlier?

Yes.

Okay.

She said, like, spray me, basically.

Like, you know, like, she, she told people to like, uh, splash her.

I think

splash she said.

She said to splash her pussy.

Like, yes.

Yeah.

I think it was in the middle of the day.

And by the way, there's a big difference between hair and face and pussy.

I just want to say that.

Yes, of course.

Yeah.

But when I saw that, I'm like, oh, come on.

Like, then you're opening the door for people to throw stuff at you

And I feel like when you're a performer in this day and age like that's just a big no-no like I would never you know I think all performers would agree like never encourage that because okay someone throws a cup next thing they throw their shoe like yes, you're opening the door So once I saw that I was like a little less on Cardi's side.

I'm like oh yikes because yeah, the girl was doing pretty much exactly what Cardi asked her to do.

Yeah, I think you know, it's a classic case of it's uh Teresa Judice like flip switch.

Okay.

Like I just think actually like something happened and she reacted like and and that's almost why, like, I feel right in the middle of this.

Like, I feel like I can really identify with both sides, but I feel like it's something, it reminds me of that time when you, me and Ben, I think we were in AC and like you splashed the milk at me.

And like, you thought it was so funny, but it's like, my God, do you know, Olivia, how you react?

Like, you just react because like something happened and like you, your brain can't process it fast enough.

Olivia, you just unpacked like the craziest memory I have to tell this.

I can't wait till you gas like the fuck out of me and tell the story.

That's not what it was.

I think I would tell it accurately.

We were in Atlantic City.

I think we were in the hotel room, right?

We were in the hotel room.

And, you know, they had like that coffee machine with those little creamers that are in those little tiny cup things.

And I was thinking, like, if I just squeeze the bottom of this cup, like all the creamer will explode.

And I was like, I'm going to do it.

And you were like, don't do it.

And I was like, I'm going to do it.

And you said, don't do it.

And I did it.

I got creamer in your hair.

And you.

Well, the creamer was expired and it smelled like donkey.

Okay.

And I literally.

She flipped.

I flipped.

But by the way, and it's like, you just react because something happened, you know?

By the way, I totally understand.

Like the most, that wasn't even

to talk about the real part of the story.

That's the hilarious part.

Like she was lip-syncing because the music kept going.

So there was like a, but that's what a lot of people aren't talking about is like the second she threw the microphone, she obviously couldn't sing anymore and the track kept going.

Although I do think that's actually a very common thing for rappers to do is to sing to rap over their tracks because there's like background.

I don't know.

I saw some people talking about that too.

Honestly, I don't really care.

I don't care either.

I'm just trying to, like, I watched so many different videos of this that I was just trying.

Cause like, you know, when she threw the microphone, she didn't actually hit the girl who threw

the cup.

Like, she hit somebody else.

So then that's another level of like Cardi kind of being in the wrong because she hit the wrong girl and then this innocent girl gets a big ass microphone thrown at her.

Yeah.

And somebody said she has a single coming out, so she's just looking for headline.

Like I saw that too.

It's really a lot, a lot.

TikTok is where you get the news.

And the girl who threw the cup, like the second she released it, saw Cardi get mad and said, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I know.

I told you.

So like it wasn't malicious.

Cardi like I'm sorry Cardi did open the door so like I was ready to come on here and be like love this yeah because I think like what I would love to do to the guy who threw his phone at BB Rexa like right choke right so like finally someone else getting it in return but like I don't think this girl was the one to get

who deserved it I know I agree with that and I think also yeah

I know it's the more we learn the more we learn like and you have to keep learning that's the thing you have to keep learning you have to keep learning because like you can't just take the video at face value like even when you read it you're you're like, I'm sure we all saw the video now, but like the video, would that video even stand up in court?

No.

No, it would not.

Let me know it.

Cause it's circumstantial.

Right?

Sure.

It's circumstantial.

Yeah.

So yeah, I think, you know, I'm not on Team Cardi, even though like, and I'm not not on Team Cardi.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, because like I totally understand.

Because I want to see a video of when she said splash my pussy.

I think I just wanted to say pussy on the toast.

I just say pussy on the toast all the time.

I think we need to go back and see that then.

And like, did people splash?

Like, what happened?

People did splash when she asked them to okay and like that part of the show was over and the girl didn't get the memo but but but cardi opened the door like i know i know i'm saying like sound off in the comments are you team cardi or team girl

let us know um okay next story i know you're obsessed with this story i probably would have chosen it anyway but i specifically chose it for you thank you lisa hofstein

she is slamming her estranged husband lenny for getting engaged to his mistress while still married.

So Lisa Hofstein sarcastically congratulated her estranged husband, Lenny Hochstein, and his mistress, Katerina Mazepa, on their engagement.

So Lenny revealed that he popped the question to his girlfriend of one year.

He is 57.

She is 27,

despite being legally married to Lisa still.

And Lisa then took to Instagram, shared his post and wrote, congrats to my current husband and his mistress on their engagement.

Then she also slammed Lenny's mom.

So Lenny's mom had left a comment on his engagement post and wrote, I will be very happy that this time you are getting a woman who loves and respects you.

You certainly did not have that in your previous marriage.

Good luck.

Congratulations.

That's what Lisa's mother-in-law, Lenny's mom, had commented.

And Lisa shared her comment and wrote, what a wonderful mother-in-law and grandmother.

How disgusting.

Yeah, and that's, that's the thing about this that I do not like, which is like, there are kids involved.

And yeah.

You know, like, it's like they have two young kids.

The dad, the parents are still married.

They're having a very contentious divorce.

The dad obviously he had an affair, correct?

And this is the woman he had an affair with.

Right.

And then you just like run off into the sunset before like you have, you know.

Settled.

And it's just 1,000% wrong.

It's so.

And it's like, what's the rush?

What's the, well, he is 57 and she's 27.

So maybe there's that.

Two.

But like they can still have a baby and like not get, do you know what I mean?

Like it's just so disrespectful

to get engaged while you're still married and you have kids.

And then grandma, fuck off, grandma.

What are you doing?

Grandma's a bitch.

Because that lives on forever.

And the kids grow up.

It's now a news story.

They see it.

Their Their last name is Hoxteen.

They Google themselves.

It's like, what the fuck are you doing?

No, it's so true.

Grandma was being a wench.

Yeah.

And no, they were just like looking for headlines.

And I just hate people like that.

No, like, by the way, I actually understand people who are looking for headlines.

I hope to be one of those people myself one day.

Yeah, but for doing something possible.

At the expense of your own family.

Like, that's where I draw the line.

Like, that's so like evil.

And that's just the crazy thing about divorce is that like.

Yeah, you really see sides of people that you didn't even know could possibly exist.

Not only that, but like you will find yourself doing like the lowest of the low things to somebody who you would have at one point taken a bullet for.

Yeah.

You know, I think the thing that is really interesting about this and one of the things that is interesting about reality TV, although I don't always partake, I do love Love is Blind.

That is the one I usually do.

I just felt like I needed to be.

You're such a Bartiste girl.

How dare you?

How dare you?

I'm actually like not a fan of anybody that's ever been on the show.

I think they're all actually on the show.

What about the Hamiltons?

Except for them.

And what about Amber and Barnett?

I feel like you love them.

I just can't believe that they're still together, but they're weird to me.

Yeah, because you want to know why.

Like, love wins.

Like, they loved each other.

Yeah, they did.

They did.

Except he also, like, loved another girl or two.

No, he didn't.

Like, she was crazy.

Yeah.

I don't know if we as a like country will ever be as unified as we were during season one of Love is Blind.

No, 100%.

I can't remember.

And those are the one, the relationships that I think are the strongest.

Yeah, of course.

I also just can't remember a time where like everyone was talking about this one thing more than we were during season one of Love is Blind.

Maybe White Lotus, but that's it.

Yeah, but there were even people who like didn't watch white lotus like yeah i don't know a single person who didn't watch love is blind totally shapiro is obsessed obsessed beyond belief because it's like a circus it's a freak show it's a freak show and it's the best and the people that are going on now just want to get famous and my favorite thing about it is like they don't get that famous like that chicago crew is the worst all those girls went on because they wanted to be famous and now they all like have fake podcasts together and like nobody cares about them and it's like

if you go on the show like the first one was such a true experiment and nobody really knew what was happening and And now the rest of these people just try to play the game.

Nobody knew that it was going to turn into like this global phenomenon and that the people who were like the stars of season one would end up becoming like actually famous.

Yeah.

And there's a lot of talk about Lauren and Cameron maybe

taking

Vanessa Lachey's job.

I'd be here for that.

Me too.

They're like true celebrities.

And now that people know that that's a possibility, the amount of the group of people you're going to get applying for the show is just different.

Different, totally.

But you were making a point about Lisa and Lenny.

You said.

The point that I was making was and we we learned this with the richard sisters is like

anything that is going to be uncovered is uncovered when you're on reality tv right

and like lisa and lenny i did not watch but from what i read in the daily mail like

Their divorce played out on the show and everybody, I think, unanimously took Lisa's side, right?

Like people saw what was happening.

So I mean,

he was caught on a hot mic during the season, like right before they announced their divorce.

And he was just like talking shit.

He was like, oh, I'm getting the fuck out of here.

Like I'm seeing someone.

He brought his mistress into the house while Lisa was wearing a microphone.

Like

actually the footage they got on Miami Housewives was crazy.

Crazy.

So like, so that, and then he takes it a step further to get engaged while they're still married.

And it's like.

the mom his mom is then going to go and try do you know what i mean like we've now seen that lisa is a stand-up galley right she puts the kids first she did the right thing in her marriage no skeletons have come out about lisa and what she did behind behind the scenes and then y'all are going to keep doing this it's you know what i mean like it's like if she did something negative in the relationship if she was cheating on him if she was nasty to him if she didn't put the kids like all of this would feel like he has something to be mad like he would have it would have come out it would have come out and he would like he's doing all of this why

because he doesn't want to be married to lisa anymore okay you can still act with dignity like

you're right and then give her a proper divorce and move on nothing has been uncovered about them you're so about her yeah so it's like why are you doing all this just because you're mean?

Like, it's giving mean girl.

Yeah, it's giving mean girl.

And grandma really girls.

It's giving mean grandma.

Because grandma should know her privileges.

Like, I don't know.

How do you keep your kids around someone toxic like that?

Yeah.

No, grandma should know better too.

Like, you're supposed to be older and wiser.

And she was, I mean, I watched the first season of Miami because, you know, I'm OG bravo when they did the live reunion.

The best.

And if you've never seen it, you should just go watch it because Adriana DeMora is a clue of her mind.

But Olivia, she's still on now and she's so fucking insufferable.

It was crazy.

I could see that.

The OG seasons, she was my favorite.

Yeah.

She's horrible.

Yeah, well, people change.

People change.

Lenny Hoxteen.

Right.

So net net team Lisa all the way.

And honestly, I just, in situations like this, I just feel so terrible for the kids.

Of course.

And that's how I'm feeling.

No, and divorce is bad.

I think, you know, no matter what.

Especially because the kids are young and divorce is bad and they live in my, I don't, you know, like Miami is such a tight-knit community.

I feel like the kids going to school, like it's just all drama.

And why do young kids need that?

No, I mean, divorce is terrible for kids, I think, at any age, but when there's the element of like things being on the internet, living, like existing forever, it's just really sad.

And you need to, when you're in the spotlight, like you need to do better for your kids and you need to act right.

And Lenny and his mom are acting wrong.

They're acting 100% wrong.

And grandma's a wench.

All right.

Our next story is kind of about our co-host, which is really crazy.

Harry Styles flashes a new tattoo and it says Olivia.

And I just want to know, like, when are you going to tell Shapiro about your man?

Like, really uncool of you.

Harry Styles has been spotted with a tattoo believed to be a dedication to his ex-girlfriend, Olivia Wilde.

In photos obtained by Page 6, the former 1D singer can be seen flashing the tattoo on a boat in Italy on Friday.

So he shows off what appears to be the word Olivia inked in italic on his thigh.

The word collazione, which is Italian for breakfast, also appeared to be inked on his leg.

It's unclear if there's any connection between the tattoos, but it literally says Olivia, and then like underneath it, it says

calazione.

But there's like six inches

um there's like six inches of space i don't believe that they are related related well so i have a couple questions on this like have we ever seen this part of his thigh before to like know that this is super nail that's a good question he is wearing the tiniest bathing suit anyone's ever seen like yeah it's like i could see his penis bones and then i could see like his pubes it's a really tiny bathing suit very european very um so i don't know i i'm sure that historically like in the summer he's been on vacation he's always getting paparazzied on yachts.

We would have noticed if this was there before.

It's definitely not.

Well, because they have that song, 1D, something about Olivia.

So it's like maybe they're not.

No, that's the John Mayer song.

No, there's a lot of different things.

So they have a different song.

Yeah, yeah, but something about Olivia is John Mayer.

Okay, one of the 1D.

I live for you, I long for you, Olivia.

Hey.

Okay, so maybe there's an Olivia's life that we don't know about.

It's a testament to that.

Okay.

And it's me.

They didn't write their own songs back in the day.

Like those 1D songs actually don't have any meaning to any of the guys.

Like they were part of a machine, you know?

It's horrible.

Do you ever see their documentary?

i don't think so but honestly i would enjoy watching that it's one of the best don't get me started on my celebrity documentary tyrant everybody's heard it enough but like that's a really good one it's a really good one i actually i i love a documentary so what's your favorite celebrity documentary um

i don't know actually i feel like you liked amy I loved Amy.

Yeah, and I love her.

I feel like I can't, it's too much pressure right now to like think right off the top of my head.

That's not a thing you have.

But I heard the jelly roll one is really good.

Did you see it?

No.

It's on Hulu.

I actually would watch that.

Yeah.

His story's very interesting.

Very interesting.

And I like his wife.

Yeah.

She's a podcaster.

Is she?

They've been together for like before he was famous.

Yeah, no, I know.

He was like in jail.

And I believe he was homeless and he had a kid and they met and she like got him an apartment and was like, listen, I don't know if we're going to be together forever.

So we're watching tonight?

Yeah, but totally.

100%.

Jelly roll.

We'll let you know tomorrow.

Jelly roll on the toast.

Yeah.

So

Harry Styles has a tattoo.

The girl who clearly represents the tattoo is no longer in his life.

Do you remove the tattoo?

Do you remove the tattoo?

No, I think a lot, I mean, I don't have any tattoos, so tattoo community don't come for me, but I feel like people get tattoos, and even if it's no longer representative of them at that moment in time, it was at one point.

And tattoos are almost like, it's like memorializing elements of your life that it doesn't have to be.

Like, does Pete Davidson still have Kim as my lawyer?

No.

Oh.

Well, that's

Kim as my lawyer.

That doesn't make my point, but.

And he doesn't have, remember he got kid, the kids' letters.

He got like N.

I think if you're like going to get a tattoo and you're not like committed to going all the way, despite the fact that like it might not be your future forever, you should probably not get a dot dot.

No, but that's the thing with tattoo culture now.

It's like when you have a bunch of tattoos, like you can get them changed.

He changed the Kim as my lawyer one.

You can cover it.

You can change it.

You can add different letters.

That's like La La Kent had Rand.

Forever, Randall Emmett.

And then he ended up being like.

The horriblest human.

And she changed it to brand new.

Love that for her.

Yeah.

So it was like, there are ways.

So now I feel like tattoos, also with tattoo removal, like it's not as like crazy to do.

Like I believe, you know, remember when Ariana got like Pete Davidson's dad's FDNY like shield on her foot?

No, but okay.

I believe it's long gone.

It's either been covered or remote.

What's up with like people, the Pete Davidson tattoo community is its own little orb.

It's so true.

But I agree that I think some people use their bodies as like storyboards for their life.

And so you don't have to get a remote.

100%.

And maybe they ended amicably and he can acknowledge that that was like an important relationship in his life.

And I think that's very mature of him and it seems like something that would like, that seems like his personality.

Yeah.

He's like so like, you know, emotive.

Yeah.

Like he's not a like bitter Lenny Hoxtina.

Like so Harry would never.

Never.

Now, we don't have any tattoos because we're two Jewish queens, but if you were to get a tattoo, do you ever think about like what you would get?

Like, no, but I guess we could like think about it here, you know?

I've thought about it.

Yeah.

And I would get the word because I feel like you would say I get my kids, but like you could have more kids than you have to update the tattoo.

Right.

So it would need to be something all-encompassing, like, and what's so important to us, family.

I would get mishbacha.

Cute.

Maybe on my forehead.

I was just going to say, where would you put maybe connecting my eyebrows to give me one long eyebrow?

And I would support that.

And what would you get?

Have you thought about like what you would get for a tattoo?

No, but like, I think placement is so interesting.

You know, you get it above your ass crack, obviously.

Obviously.

And then like.

I don't know.

I feel like people do like, sorry, I don't, I don't want to show my feet.

What, you want to get it on your feet?

No, you know like people do like a little like ankle or toe or like here's the new thing is doing like tiny micro tattoos on your fingers that's what like all like hilly bieber has i have a friend that instead of wearing like a wedding ring he has like a ring tattooed and i think that that's very lovely yeah his name is shingy he like people know him and you can never take it off yeah and so you have to be married for life i think men should do that yeah i i really think it's actually very sweet that is a sweet one yeah um so i highly recommend going to look at these photos of harry styles not because of the tattoo because honestly who cares but it's such a teeny tiny bathing suit like Like, look at that.

I mean, he was not interested in having tan lines.

And I respect that.

And I just think everybody should go take a look at that because it's definitely important, you know, for society.

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Our next story is a little bit more celebrity drama.

Teresa Judice is calling Sophia Regara the rudest celebrity she's ever met.

So she said that Sophia Regara is the rudest rudest celebrity she ever met during a latest podcast episode of hers.

She was chatting with her co-host and she recalled an incident from 2017 where Vergara allegedly appeared reluctant to take a picture with the reality star backstage at a talk show.

And Teresa argued that Vergara should be nice because she's a

jackie in that.

Teresa argued that Sophia Vergara should be nice because she's quote an immigrant.

What?

Yeah.

So Sophia Vergara, this is what she said, quote, Sophia Vergara's PR person and my PRson spoke together and I guess the two of them said, let's get a picture of Teresa and Sophia together.

I didn't want to take a picture with her.

I've never asked to take a picture with anybody.

She's the rudest woman I've ever met.

She goes on.

I saw her whole demeanor and then I heard her say to her PR person, why are you making me take a picture with that lady?

I was like, excuse me.

I did not want to take a picture with you.

I never asked to take a picture with you.

She further claimed.

I was like, how rude.

You're so not humble.

You're not a humble person.

You forgot where you came from.

It's not like she started out like being on the top.

She forgot where she came from.

She's so not a down-to-earth person.

that's what she said

um and i just have a question about i have so many questions about this yeah like of course everyone should be nice and let's say for argument's sake sophia virgar was not nice you know immigrants can be whatever they want like i don't know why she had to bring immigration into this a hundred percent and like isn't she an immigrant too from italy her and her husband ex-husband no i think she was born here actually that's a good question because he got deported

can you not

can you only only get deported if you're not from here?

I would, I guess.

Like, because you can't get deported.

Why not?

Where would you be deported to?

No, you're right.

You can't, you can only get deported if you're not from here.

Yeah.

So her husband, her ex-husband, father of her children, and then she's talking about her.

And by the way, I think the amount of people who have, you know, negative interactions with Teresa Judice, like...

Well, so this is what I was going to say.

I have like a decent amount of experience with like talent, right?

And I think in situations like that, like where the PR people are just like pushing you around to take photos, this and that, like you don't actually know what's going on.

No, and Sophia's so fine to be like, Why are you making me take a picture with that lady?

I'm sure Sophia Vergara has no fucking idea, no idea.

And maybe she wanted the context, right?

Like, so that's not a crazy thing to ask.

No, and I think also this is a classic case of like perception not being reality, right?

So, like, did Teresa hear her say that, or did she like see her mouth move and then like assume that she said that?

Like, this is like a non-situation that she's making seem like Sophia Vergara wasn't nice to her, and like, maybe she was cold, but like, it's not like I don't know, she splashed water on her at a concert, like it's not the same.

It's literally the,

it's ego.

I didn't want a picture with you, but you wanted a picture with me.

It's like, I'm like, why are these two even in the same room?

Like, where were they in the same room?

They were both appearing on a talk show.

And so they were both backstage in different green rooms.

And the PR people like communicated with one another.

It was like, oh, my client, we should get a picture.

PR people need to stop.

This is the fault of the PR people.

Because honestly, like, why does the world need a picture of Teresa Judice and Sophia Vergaro?

We don't.

We don't.

We absolutely do not.

And there's like, you know, with a lot of people, there's like a six degrees of separation.

There's not here.

You cannot bring these two together in any way, shape, or form.

There's no connection.

None.

None of that.

And what's the rudest celebrity you've ever met?

That's a really interesting question.

There's this one podcaster, actually.

I'm kidding.

I was going to say you.

Oh, I'm like, wait, what podcasters are you doing?

I've had really pleasant experiences with talent, actually.

I am a person that likes to focus on the positive.

Okay.

You're really not, but okay.

I like to focus on the positive.

You're actually one of the most negative people I've ever ever met.

Am I?

Including myself.

Like, I'm negative too.

How am I negative?

You just are.

Like, if I came back, I'm like, if you went somewhere, I'm like, oh, how was your day?

Like, the first thing you would say would be the bad thing.

That's not true.

That's not true.

All this weekend I said, this is the most glorious day.

You're by the way.

You were the one that's like, oh, torch, I got to lay down.

I am admittedly like a very negative person.

Yeah, I don't think that's a bad thing.

I don't think I'm that negative.

But honestly, like, if you think I am, I will digest.

I will digest the feedback, accept it, and move on.

I think you are definitely like an extremely like negative person.

i think extremely is i i could be negative i don't think i'm extremely okay here's my barometer is me like i am a negative person and i pale in comparison to you i think that that's absolutely false i think you should ask some of our sisters i absolutely will and i think that they would say that you're more negative than i am no 100 okay i'm putting it in the scenes chat go and hopefully they'll answer while we are live these are lies i came on here who would you say is a more negative person question mark me or olivia question mark oh none of that went through Who would you say is a more negative person question mark?

Me or Olivia?

I'm still trying to think about my most negative celebrity encounter.

Okay, I really,

I think you should just type it.

Totally honest.

No, I sent it.

All right, I'll let you know if they respond.

Who's your most

negative celebrity encounter?

My one I always say, but like I've really moved on from Hillary Duck.

Hillary Duff.

I heard she's awesome.

Ben said she's so great.

I know.

And I think maybe like my experience with her was like truly.

Maybe you were the teresa judice and she was the sophia vergara i mean i was literally 16 and all i wanted was a photo with her and she told me like stop following her around yeah i was never the type of person that i'm like if i saw a celebrity i'm like i need a photo with you or i need your autograph you know who's the first celebrity you ever met in person

Oh my God, I don't even know.

Oh, I know who it was.

We tell the story all the time.

The Veronicas?

The Veronicas, yeah.

But they like weren't even celebrities.

But

exhaust they were, yeah.

I think they were shocked that like anybody cared about them.

Yeah.

Two people came up and asked me.

And there were four of us Yeah.

Came up and asked for a photo.

I don't know.

I really don't know.

That's such a great question.

I know.

So many of my memories are like so deeply buried, you know, it would really like take, I don't know.

It's like trauma repression.

It's trauma repression.

I don't remember anything.

Nothing.

When I was an intern, though,

one of my jobs was like.

basically being like a butler for talent.

Like I would just come in and be like, do you want drinks?

Whatever.

And there were like really famous people

there.

Like you were, you worked there too.

Who did we meet then?

We met everyone, like, from reality stars to A-list actors.

Yeah,

I don't even know.

But, like, every day it was like somebody hella famous, Salmahayek.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I was.

I think even before that, I worked.

Um, I feel like people don't even know this.

When I was at NYU, I interned for Nanette Lapore for one semester.

Do you know what that is?

Wait, they answered me.

What'd they say?

I'm in shock.

Yeah, it's you.

I mean, they both said me.

Thank you.

Margot said you, and Jackie said, Oh, that's tough.

You.

What?

Thank you.

You're delusional.

You need a reality cheer.

I'm in shock.

I'm in shock.

Yeah.

You're the one that actually needs to get up.

Oh my God.

You are so negative.

I'll stand by that.

Okay.

And by the way, nobody's saying that I'm not negative.

You're just very much more.

And I said that the word extremely was the wrong word to use.

I just negative.

I feel like I'm such a ray of light.

Like, what are you guys talking about?

Like, I think that your negativity is a ray of light because it's comedy.

It's funny.

Yeah.

No, but like, I'm always thinking about how much I wish I was someone else just so I could hang out with me.

Like, I'm a ray of light.

I'm a delight.

I'm a joy.

I'm a saying that you're obsessed with yourself doesn't mean that you're not negative.

That's not what I'm, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm obsessed with myself.

I say, like, I always make every situation fun.

I'm always.

That doesn't mean that you're not negative, though.

No, it does.

Like, I'm a literal ray of light.

Because people who are like uber positive can be like super fucking annoying to be around.

Toxic positivity is a real thing.

Yeah.

You and your like verbs for things like trauma repression.

No, toxic positivity.

It's actually an amazing point.

You need like a dictionary of like these words that you like describe them.

I'm like a woke internet user.

Like I have a word for everything.

Okay.

Trauma repression is real.

I know it is.

Are you trying to silence the victims of trauma repression?

I can't even respond to that.

I am a victim of trauma repression.

I can't believe everybody said I'm negative.

Like I'm honestly not feeling so vindicated.

I wish my phone was in my hand too.

So I could just say big thank you to Claudia, to Jackie and Margo.

I'm in shock.

They both said me.

Why are you in shock?

Because you're so negative.

I know, but like, I'm second to you.

You don't even, you can't even see your own shadow, girlfriend.

No, but like, okay, maybe that's something I need to work on because.

Right.

And I said I would accept and digest the feedback from you, and now you should accept and digest the feedback from your sisters.

I can't.

Like, I refuse to accept it.

I'm not believing.

What is that called?

Being like denial.

Negative dancing.

No, it's like denialism superioristically.

Okay, should we go into the final story?

Called being like a denial supremacist.

No, it's a hunchback who can't see his own hunch.

Totally, totally.

All right, our next one.

What was this story even about?

Oh, Teresa Judice.

Oh, yeah.

So I'm just saying, I'm Team Sophia.

Obviously.

And why you got to bring immigration into it?

Yeah.

And, you know, I'm just, I said it at the top of the show because it really, like, there is something called like the Teresa Judice flip switch.

And nobody flip switches more than her.

It's true.

Like, if you watch Housewives, like, you know that Teresa's perception of reality is so warped.

Warped.

She can't, like, so I have a feeling this entire interaction went a totally different way, but this is how she received it.

So, while I'm here, and just to like get educated, what is going on with Teresa and Melissa?

And, like, how are they both going to be on the same show?

Well, so that's the thing.

It got really bad at the end of last season, like, fighting about everything.

Teresa's new man, he went into business with Joe, then it got bad.

And then Joe hired him,

Louie, the boy, and the new man hired a private investigator, Bo Didle.

Like, it was really, really bad.

And they were like, Teresa was like, I will never film with you again, blah, blah.

So everyone's like, all right, Melissa is obviously going to get fired.

And now they're, I think they're about to start picking up.

And I believe they're all back.

So I don't know.

And this is really sad.

Talking about with like, you can't go on reality TV and like keep anything under the covers.

Like it just doesn't stay there.

Yeah.

Because these people need to make a living and they make a living by exposing theirs and other people's secrets.

So Team Lisa to bring it up.

Team Lisa.

All right.

Our fifth and final story is a little tech biz news.

You know, last week, Elon Musk was tweeting and explaining that Twitter is going to be rebranded.

It's going to be called X.

The logo is going to change.

The name is going to change.

And honestly, like people were freaking, but I'm like, this is just Elon being Elon.

Like, I didn't think like for a second that this was actually going to happen.

But on my phone now, I have X.

Yeah.

It really went through and he is explaining himself to CNBC.

He said Twitter was acquired by X Corp, both to ensure freedom of speech and as an accelerant for X, the everything app.

So this is not simply a company renaming itself, but it's doing the same thing.

The Twitter name made sense when it was just 140 character messages going back and forth like birds tweeting.

But now you can post almost anything, including several hours of video.

In the months to come, we will add a comprehensive communication and the ability to conduct your entire financial world.

The Twitter name does not make sense in that context, so we must a bid adieu to the bird.

So let me just say, like, his explanation actually makes sense.

Like, the platform isn't tweet anymore.

Like, you're not saying dumb dumb little thoughts.

It's much more concise.

You can write essays.

I totally get it.

You can live stream, whatever.

Having said that, like, I just think this is bad marketing.

Like, to get your, your, the name of your product to be so integrated into culture, like, tweet, like, everyone, it's just so

pervasive.

Yeah, but what's the word I'm looking for?

Ubiquitous.

Ubiquitous.

Thank you.

So I just feel like to give that up is so dumb.

Yeah.

What do you think?

I have a couple thoughts because I agree.

Like when I first heard it, I'm like, hmm.

And there were a couple of things that like from me from like more of like a marketing communications background, I just think the rollout was so shitty, you know, where it's like, okay, if you saw, like, I saw a bunch of tweets about this where the main Twitter logo changed to X, but all their other official Twitter accounts, like Twitter Sports, oh, still the bird.

So it's like, they should have like really

Twitter sports, right?

Yeah.

Like they, they didn't change everything all at once.

Like, and if you're saying that you're going to build this super app, which like, that's what I want to get into, it's like, and the financial of it all wouldn't have made sense.

Well, then like launch a new feature or a new product where like Twitter in that context wouldn't have made sense and then do the rebrand there.

Like, I don't necessarily agree with the meta rebrand of it all, but like they really went deep into Web3 when they did the meta announcement.

So like it was combined together.

I think the one thing that everybody's trying to sell for, which I think Facebook originally tried to do and they weren't doing successfully is like pretty much like in China.

like there's one app and everybody uses like one app for everything, right?

Oh, a super app instead of of having like a million apps like we have here.

And I think what Elon is trying to do is he's trying to recreate that here.

And I feel like other people have tried to do it and tried to, it's, and Amazon, I think to some extent has some elements of it because like they have Whole Foods.

They're launching healthcare.

You can buy anything in the world.

They have home shopping.

They have home shopping.

You can be a seller on there and run a business, right?

Like,

but there's an element of social media that's missing from Amazon, which is the core part of the super app in China.

Isn't that what Instagram's been been trying to do though since day one?

Because every time, like they had a good idea, it became popular for posting photos.

And then Snapchat stories were a thing, so they became Snapchat stories.

Then TikTok became a thing.

So then they just started doing reels.

They like stole everyone's idea in the hopes that like anything.

But just in the context of social media, not in other content.

I'm saying just social media.

Yeah.

I would say Instagram is definitely like a super media.

So like a social media super app.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like a tongue twister.

I didn't know super approaching.

But they didn't like combine everything else together.

Like Facebook owns so many different things, plus with their Web3 investments, Oculus, WhatsApp.

Like if they brought WhatsApp and Instagram to

all in one, like that starts to create the vibe of a super app.

So I think that's what Elon is trying to do.

I just don't know if here in the US, like we're going to operate that way.

We're just like not those sort of people.

Like people are very brand loyal.

They feel like very definitively about the things that they care about.

They use this app.

They use this streaming service.

Like think about how many streamers we have.

15,000, you know, it's not like one super streamer app.

And Americans are also like very passionate.

Like, yes.

like they know who owns certain apps and they don't want to support Zuckerberg or they don't want to support Elon.

So like they'll stop themselves from using apps just because of their own like principles.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.

So I think like, I feel like that's not a thing.

It's a long-term move that it was done short-sightedly because it needed a full comms plan and it needed a rollout that included elements of a super app.

Because, by the way, on X, I was playing around.

Yeah.

And it's like your, your thought now called an X.

Do you know?

So when you go to send it to

on x now i'm typing something the button to publish is still called tweet let's this is what i'm talking about it's half ass you're right half baked

i'm all down for a rebrand and it needs to be very well thought out i don't like the name like oh check x or have you seen what's on x today i know it's it's hard to fathom but then like once it happens it happens and you like can't imagine life without it you know now that we're like a month or two i forget how you think when they created like go puff they were like go puff it like somebody in a room was probably like that sounds really fucking weird but now that's what people say that's actually a good point and now that we're like a month out um what are your thoughts on threads because i was really excited about it like week up and then probably three days in i completely forgot about it i haven't checked it since same same i think that's i read somewhere that everyone was freaking like 100 million people signed up the day i read that after week one they had a 70 drop yeah Yeah, because like been there, done that.

Like it exists in another way.

So if it's like, I understand like trying to bring all those things together, but that's not how people use Instagram today.

So it's such a big like consumer behavior shift.

And so like people get on it because like they want to see what it's all about, but it's not natural.

It's not normal for us.

So like we're not really going to partake in it.

So unless the exact same way, my tweets were my tweets.

My threads were all about like being a hater of theirs.

Yeah, no.

And then everyone was like so excited about it.

And I genuinely cannot remember the last time I checked it.

Yeah.

But I, and I was so excited too, because I loved that it would just import from Instagram.

So I didn't have to like build a whole new following.

I already had like 200,000 followers.

I just, I think if they had built the functionality into Instagram, so in the feed, you were seeing people's thoughts.

Like, again, nobody wants another app.

By the way, that's kind of what they tried to do.

Remember when they had like status updates?

Yeah, but like the way that

you said that was bad.

Yeah.

And by the way, that lasted for actually all of two minutes.

By the way, it still exists.

You have people who put.

I don't want to call them out, but there's two people who I like them both.

So they're always fucking doing it.

I'm like, who are you talking to?

It's time for you to unfollow those people.

No, but I like them, but I'm literally like, who are you talking to?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nobody's looking here.

You know, there needed to, it needed to be integrated in a better way.

Yeah.

And also like the fact that it was like not threads.com.

Like you have all the money in the world, Instagram, like go relieve that business of their.

What do you mean threads.com?

It was an app.

No, I know, but like when you went to go like online, like they did.

Did you access threads on a website?

I don't know if you could access it on a website or if it was just like the download the app button here, but like they didn't own threads.com.

That's a big mistake.

Big mistake.

And if you can't, some random company that had to put a thing on their site that said, we are not Instagram.

Really?

Yeah, go look.

Oh my God, I didn't see any of this.

Hold on.

That's so funny.

If you were threading about threads, you would be in the threads.

Threading about threads okay wait threads.com

a slack replacement you see the button oh my god yes okay so it's it's a it's a it's a service for businesses it's basically like um

slack yeah g chat and it literally has a button on their website we are not associated with instagram that is so but it's this business could have like literally probably made like 20 million dollars by selling their dot com right right and they should have just done it yeah

they could have just changed like chatthreads.com or whatever.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah, no, you know, the thing is, is like we in the U.S., I think, like, behave differently than other, you know,

than other countries.

And

yeah, I don't know.

I'm a fan of rebrands, even as like unnecessary as they may be sometimes.

Yeah.

But it has to be well thought out.

This just like kind of felt like a rush.

Like, and that's the thing about Elon a little bit, which I like appreciate also.

Like he has an idea and it's like, okay, the next day is fine.

You know?

It's a little erratic.

But I think like having been part of a couple of rebrands, like the, you have to really turn over every stone.

And if you're not doing that, it's just not going to be a successful rebrand.

Like people need to understand, like, the way that he has to go on CNBC and explain themselves, like, you should have just wrote a letter of like, here, do you know what I mean?

Like, there should have been like a brand positioning that went out with it.

No, that's actually really true.

So what, as a professional marketer yourself, what were your thoughts on the toast rebrand?

Absolutely loved it.

Any notes, like things we did incorrectly?

No.

Like, again, you did it.

You, there was an announcement behind it.

All the assets changed at the same time.

It was well thought out.

It was because you were ever evolving with your community and the way that they referred to you.

Like, right?

You didn't just go and call it

the fart.

We should have called it the fart.

That's a great name.

Oh, no.

We went from the breath to the fart.

That's like too much.

Actually, fun fact for anyone who's new here is Jackie and I first started doing a podcast.

It was called The Morning Breath.

Yep.

And Olivia was our showrunner, producer, literally booker, everything.

Yep.

Those were the days.

Everything.

Those were the days.

Do you miss working with us ever?

I do.

I do.

But you guys are like so successful, awesome, and killing it on your own.

Like, it's so great to just kind of be a fly on the wall and stuff.

That's so nice.

I think that sometimes we miss you.

I miss you guys.

You're just like very organized.

And like, you're a great businesswoman and you're really smart.

And we're definitely missing that.

Thank you.

Yeah, no, but in the beginning, when we like, you guys have such a well-run operation now.

People don't realize like in the beginning, I mean, what it started at was me and my janky hands holding two phones.

One was Facebook Live, one was Instagram Live.

And I was like, we couldn't, we didn't even buy a tripod.

It was like me.

So true.

The first episode ever of Jackson Claude, we were literally using Olivia's arms as tripods.

And honestly, I don't know how they didn't break.

Me either.

Me either.

And like, honestly, for everybody that was there, because people always comment and they're like, I've been here since day one.

It's like, have you been here since that day?

Yes.

I have.

Yeah, which is like, I'm sorry.

Like, you probably got a seizure, you know?

I would absolutely love to go find episode one of the tripods.

We just like found a room and like did, and there's so many learnings that have happened along the way.

Like, look at this setup now.

Like, like you know how to like hdmi into the us right

and then export to abcdefg you know like i don't know how to do that stuff but i think like you really kind of

you guys did this all on your own like it's amazing not really because you were there i was there i was there in the beginning it was it was great times thank you for joining the toast and thanks for killing it over already yeah we killed those fast five and then look sad well we don't have to be done what else do you want to talk about girlfriend i know i don't necessarily have anything else to talk about it's just been so lovely being here with you i just love having you here i I know.

It's so crazy how I'm really like a Patreon girly.

Yeah.

The Patreon community knows me really well.

Thank you so much for bringing that up.

You're so welcome.

I meant to promote this at the beginning of the episode, but we put a vlog up on our Patreon yesterday that people are calling

Academy Award winning.

They're calling it.

Literally Nobel Peace Prize worthy.

We went to Costco.

I'm not a Costco girl, but Olivia's husband like literally wants to be buried at Costco.

And he goes, you know, a couple times a month and we joined him on the trip.

Oh my God.

It was fun at first.

I was like into it.

I was impressed.

And then it slowly like devolved into like the most insanely torturous, exhausting day.

I'm not trying to be negative.

So the showing your true color.

The vlog is available at patreon.com slash Satosh.

People are obsessed with it.

I hope you guys enjoy it.

I'm going to try and make a little bit more content while I'm down here.

And if anybody was wondering where I was, I was taking a two-hour nap and it was glorious.

And somebody had to watch the kids.

Yeah.

And I came home and there was like a beautiful Diet Coke for me in the fridge.

Like it was just absolutely gorgeous.

Yeah.

That is the kind of the one fatal flaw of the vlog though is that you're not in it.

I know, but I'm spoken about a lot.

Like, it's really interesting that you guys think, like, I would like blueberry muffins.

Do you like blueberry muffins?

Like, they're okay, but that crumb cake one definitely looked much better.

What a mistake.

When I rewatched the vlog, I'm like, why did we not get the crumb cake?

Yeah, there was something else that you guys said that I liked.

It was just like making me laugh.

Wine.

Oh, the wine stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you actually didn't buy any wine yesterday because we don't need refolios.

So it's a great vlog.

Olivia's husband, Zach, is featured in it quite a bit.

I've been heard.

I've been heard.

I've been told that he's a star.

The star.

Yeah.

He is the star he's so funny he's so serious he's so literally i couldn't even get him to talk on the vlog because he was so focused at costco like it's kind of like a military operation for him yeah no

you guys like kind of threw off his vibe like the way that you went in and you're like okay let's go to get the meat first and like he doesn't do that like he starts at the produce you know like he has this whole we were being toxic for sure he has this whole like path forward um

And it was definitely an experience for him.

I think like he kind of loved like being on camera.

Like he pretended like he didn't, but he loved it.

You could tell.

That's the thing with vlogging.

Like it's addicting.

It's addicting, you know, when he was like filling up the gas and being interviewed, like he really thought that he was a star.

Also, if you want to hear more from Olivia, you have to go to her Instagram at Olivia Australia O-S-H-R-Y.

She posts fabulous mom content, cooking content.

You're really an amazing cook.

What are you making us for dinner tonight?

I don't know.

What do the kids want?

I don't think I would like hate like a chicken stir-fry.

Okay.

I like to make things that people ask for, you know?

I don't think I would mind like an Asian fusion, like a rice and a stir-fry kind of moment.

Maybe a fried rice.

Done, done, and done.

I feel like the last time you were here, I made something like that too.

Because that's what you like.

That's what I like.

I like what I like.

So make sure to follow Olivia on Instagram at

the end of the day.

I could use a few more followers.

Yeah, you could never have enough.

It's like, how does my sister have 3 million and I don't even have 100,000?

You know, you're fine.

Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast.

Thank you.

Thank you for being here.

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You didn't even say anything there.

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