Down with Carrie with Stassi Schroeder: Tuesday, June 20th, 2023

Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast to a very special, gorgeous, delightful,

stunning episode with somebody we love here at the toast, somebody who's kind of like so in the news right now, like Scandival, it's Daucy.

I know, I'm in the news right now because of Scandival.

And it's so weird.

It's like all of the

outside players that technically have nothing to do with it.

Like, I have nothing to do with it.

You, that's not true because you are responsible for the most pointed, the most iconic line.

You selfish, egotistical piece of shit because that's literally exactly what it was i feel like proud of myself i've been knowing i knew sandoval was what he is like i knew but like some people like thought he was cute and like some people of the show who fans of the show like liked to watch him like i've been knowing forever and i feel like you have too no i always got so frustrated watching the show because i'm like god he seems like such a hero when i watch it but like no i know you know and so to be honest, ever since you left the show, I haven't really craved your presence there because the show was not good, like for a considerable amount of time until obviously this whole thing happened.

And I did kind of crave someone who was on the right side of history for so many years.

And that was you.

Wait, do you know how good that feels to be on the right side of history?

I feel like so often I'm not.

Same, literally.

Same.

Oh, that feels amazing.

Yeah, no, I do keep saying that, like, what a wasted opportunity this was.

You know, if there was one season I would have liked to have been in, duh.

It probably would have been this one.

So I could have just given like a big old, I told you so.

100%.

And I asked asked Jax this when he was on the podcast, and he was actually pretty honest.

I said, like, is there any sort of FOMO with not FOMO or even like a little resentment about like the show becoming literally the biggest thing in pop culture?

And the show was built off the backs of people like you and Jax.

Yeah.

Is there any sort of like,

of course, there are moments where it's like, oh, wow, like seeing how big it's gotten.

It's like.

when we're not there.

I think that that's human nature.

Of course.

I mean, I would be so not okay.

A little bit.

Then you get insecure about like, was I not good enough?

Did I not do, like, it's a weird, it's, it's a weird convoluted kind of nuanced feeling because it's like, I'm happy that I'm not in that.

In that.

But at the same time, oh, it makes you miss it a little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I feel like.

I don't know.

I feel like just based as like an outsider watching your life on social media, like you really look like you're thriving, you're pregnant again.

You look so beautiful that like you don't, I feel like for a while, like like the show was like really the center of your universe and now you have such a full life outside of it yeah no like because when i think about like what would that be like to film again

my life is so different where yes vanner pump rules used to be the center of my world i i i organized my life around the show yeah so and now i i just i i couldn't imagine going to the places and doing the things that would be required from being on a show like Vanderpump Rules.

Yeah, I have to imagine at like the height of it when you guys were so young and like really just like drinking all the time.

Like it was so toxic.

I totally miss drinking all the time.

I know.

You know, we only have a little while left.

How far long are you?

Seven months.

And you're having a boy.

Yeah.

And are you so excited?

No, ridiculously excited because I am not the favorite in the house.

Bo is Hartford's favorite.

Daddy's girl.

And it's about time I am number one.

That's hurtful.

I'm not going to lie.

No, wait, really?

I've cried multiple, multiple times.

I mean sobbing, dry, heaving, crying, because I feel left out in my own house.

I mean, you literally gave birth to her.

No, it's like she doesn't understand.

She doesn't realize.

She will.

One day I'm going to slap the sense into her.

She will understand one day.

And I feel like that's like a huge part of growing up.

It's like you actually end up like having so much gratitude and respect for your parents, like dealing with you.

I'm looking forward to that.

Yeah, no, your time is coming, Sassy.

Well, you look great.

You're just like doing the most.

Honestly, you exhaust me.

Like, I'm a deeply lazy person.

No, you're not, and I'm not even pregnant.

No, Claudia, you're not.

No, no, I really am like at my core, I'm like a lazy slob, and I love that about myself.

It's like a cornerstone of my personality.

You are doing the most, and you're so pregnant.

Okay, this is the thing.

My first pregnancy was during COVID.

I was not allowed to leave my house.

All I could do was sit around and watch Outlander, the great British bake-off show, and bake sweets and eat them all day long.

Sounds like heaven.

I didn't get to put on outfits.

I didn't do anything.

So that was one of the reasons I was scared to get pregnant for a second time because I have all of this.

It's like I feel like a little triggered.

Like, yeah.

Oh my God, does that mean that I'm going to be confined to my house again?

And so I am trying to do the most because the first time I did nothing.

That's a good explanation.

You know.

And now you're like dressing up your bump, which you never got to do because you were probably in pajamas all day.

Yes.

And you look so good on tour.

Like I came to see your show.

It was so good.

You looked like I wanted to kill you.

Like, look at you.

So beautiful.

And you wear shoes that like I could never wear and you're pregnant.

Well, that is because they make me feel so much better about myself.

Like when I put a heel on, I mean, I instantly, my, my self-esteem just rises so immensely.

So does mine because like then my legs look longer.

Like I can't really see the cellulite.

Like that I get.

And there's nothing worse than when you're on tour and then you see everyone posting the videos of you and they're all from down low and you're like, I'm a troll.

I'm a beast.

I hate myself.

So yeah, the higher the heel.

That is such a niche reference, and I could not agree more.

That is probably one of my least favorite things about being a performer is the fact that I'm up on an elevated surface and everybody taking a photo of me is below me.

Yeah.

Like, and I don't even wear dresses or skirts.

If I did, that would probably bring like another element of panic.

But like the chin, the

ankle, it's horrible.

Horrible.

It's offensive.

Yeah.

Well, I haven't noticed.

You've just been looking truly radio.

Well, I'm only reposting the ones that I look good in.

I understand and I respect that.

I really, truly do.

Well, I saw the show.

It was so good.

I have to ask you something because I feel like we're actually in like a similar position with our husbands.

Like, okay.

When your husband came out on stage, oh my God, like the girlies in the audience were losing their minds.

Like they're obsessed.

And he's hysterical, don't get me wrong, but like he wasn't like doing anything crazy and they were like loving it.

And that's how I feel about my husband.

Like when he comes on the podcast and stuff, it's like he doesn't even do anything.

And everyone's like, that was the best episode ever.

Like we need Ben on every episode.

I'm like, really?

Like I'm sitting right here.

I'm sitting right here.

Like, what did I?

I was like doing the most.

Yeah.

And nobody even noticed.

I'm carrying this.

yeah no literally and it's like it's kind of hard not to become resentful do you agree you know what I think of it as this I feel like because our husbands are really good people and people sense that I actually genuinely think that so they could do the least and people

still yes and people would still love it because I think that you can just sense and see that like wow those are really good men yeah Bo really is the best no he is he is the best person that I know how did you guys meet

Kristen and Katie introduced us.

Oh, damn.

Everything comes back to Vanner Pump Rolls.

Everything always fucking comes back to Vanna Prolum.

How did they know him?

How did they know him?

Just mutual friends.

Like, he would hang out in some of the circles that Kristen would hang out with other groups of friends that she had.

And I remember she showed me his Instagram and I was like, oh, he's hot.

And he looks different than anyone else I've ever dated before.

And that's how that happened.

You know, one of the great crimes of the last few years is we never really really got so much Bo on Vanderprump Rolls.

It was like one or two seasons, but he was, you guys weren't engaged yet.

Like, oh, you actually, you got engaged on the show.

But, like, there was just like not enough.

Like, we really never got to, like, live with you and Bo.

But, like, how amazing is that to be the history of it?

For you.

But, like, but also we're living in people's heads where we stopped, where it's, you know, we weren't on it long enough for the producers to be like, you know what, we really need to give you a bad season.

Yeah.

Let's, like, dig.

Let's dig deep.

It's so true.

We never got a bow bad season.

So he just lives.

He's like permanently frozen in everyone's mind at the age of like whatever he was back then.

Yeah.

That's gorgeous.

Now the age-old question, you know, I'm sure everyone asks like return to reality TV question mark.

I think that if there was something that, again, I didn't feel like I had to change my life to be involved in,

then I would.

Like I really do miss it.

I love it, but I just don't want to disrupt my life.

Yeah.

Like it really does actually, like, like, it gives me anxiety when I think about, because I really try and imagine what it would be like to film again.

And if I were to change my life, that then affects your relationship.

It affects your children.

It just, it affects family members.

Would you put your kids on the show?

It depends on the show.

Yeah, that's fair.

That's fair.

Yeah.

By the way, I don't know if you want to respond, but Jax had a lot to say about you when he came on the toad.

I heard, because I'm a toaster.

So obviously I listened.

So I was like, oh, you know.

Yeah, I honestly, I didn't think he said anything like incriminating or bad.

He didn't say anything bad.

He just didn't say the truth.

That's right.

So he basically said like he really doesn't know why you're upset with him.

And you know, it was, if it's about the wedding, it was just, you know, like his kids' passport last minute, like, didn't come through.

This is the thing.

I would understand that.

It's the fact that, you know, me and Bo had texted him and Brittany weeks prior saying, we hear you're talking a little shit

about how you're not going to be coming to our wedding, which is interesting because

you're RCP'd and I'm you're our closest, some of our closest friends.

So I, what the fuck is that?

And they denied and denied, denied.

I gave them the opportunity to back out to back out, yes.

And they didn't.

And then as I was getting on the plane, the day I left for the airport to fly to Italy, I got a text from Brittany.

So like,

that feels

way more hurtful.

Yes.

There are lots of friends that couldn't make it to my wedding.

And you all couldn't make it to my wedding.

You're such a small wedding.

Yes.

And I think that was a huge part of why it hurt even more because i had to cut so many family members so many people that i would have loved to have been there so they took up two spaces right and then we're just you know jax was doing what jax does yeah and texting talking well that's that's really hurtful to talk shit about someone's wedding

and for him to say my what really bothers me is when it feels weird to even be talking about because it's like a year later and i understand people are like get over it i'm like i am over it but that doesn't mean that i have to go be besties.

With people again.

I think what hurts the most too is that he's like, Weirder went to their first wedding.

And I'm like, oh, he did say that.

We didn't get to have one.

We literally just signed papers

in your backyard, right?

In Katie's backyard during my baby shower during COVID with less than 10 people.

And I had specifically said, you guys are just witnessing us signing these papers.

This is not our wedding.

We're still hoping we can get married in Italy.

Like they knew that it wasn't a wedding.

It's not a fucking wedding.

That's so funny because the way he said it at first, I was like, wait, Stassi's been married before?

No, I know.

He's like her first wedding.

I was like, wait.

What am I saying?

I thought Bo was her first husband.

Yeah.

Listen, like, I, I do.

I miss them at times.

And, like, I, I love catching, like, I follow them still and see what they're up to in their lives.

And Cruz is so cute and all of that.

But, like, they hurt me.

Yep.

They really did.

And it feels like I don't, I can't trust them.

Yeah.

You're totally entitled to like be upset.

And I had a feeling, I love Jax, but like, you know, and I relate to Jax in this way.

Like, I see things through my own lens.

And sometimes like when somebody else will recount a story to me, I'm like, no, that's literally not how it happened.

You know what I mean?

I'm like, I'm telling you, I was there.

And I'm not a reliable witness.

You know, Jackie always says that.

Like, if I tell Jackie a story, she has to like hear it from someone else, like, make sure I'm not lying.

And I'm not lying.

I just like, that's how I experienced it.

I swear.

100%.

No, there are times Bo and I joke all the time because like Bo will remember something and I'm like, you're remembering that I told you this story.

You weren't even there.

No.

He's like, yes, I was there.

I'm like, you're not there.

You were not there.

That's so funny.

That was a girl's night, Bo.

Oh, speaking of girls' night, we got some gorgeous

Instagram story footage from you about the new sandwich shop.

Can you give us an update?

Like, when is that?

It looked ready to go.

I feel like it's going to open

this summer.

I feel like it's like not far off.

It's so beautiful.

It's like Parisian chic meets like Montecito.

Jackie and I both said when when you posted those instagram stories aesthetically it reminded me a lot of you like very parisian and there's like blue and white yeah yeah yeah it was very stopping gold touchy it was beautiful no i i mean i'm so happy for them and i'm happy for myself because i feel like there aren't that many good sandwich shops in los angeles so i'm like y'all are gonna be on post meets right right you know uber eats i i just you think you'll get free sandwiches or you're gonna support local female owned businesses i'm gonna support yeah for you couldn't be me if i know someone with a restaurant i'm like yeah i'll I'll be there at 10 o'clock.

Sir doesn't even give me free food.

Really?

I have bled out for sir.

That's if

I were to go in to dinner, I'd get a bill.

I would get it 100%.

Yeah.

That's like disgusting.

It's a little wild, but it's okay.

Two things.

One, can you pull your mic a little bit closer to your mouth?

Yes.

I'm so sorry.

Normally I have headphones on.

So you can hear yourself.

So I can hear when I'm.

Yeah.

And my second thing is, what is your current relationship status with LVP?

Every time I see her, she has been so lovely and so nice.

I think the last time I saw her, we went to her house for Pandora's son's birthday.

And I'm great.

Good.

Great.

Okay, good.

Yeah.

Now, you are a big pop culture girly, which is why you're one of.

Fuck you.

Yeah, yeah.

Let's do this.

You're one of my favorite people to co-host with because there's no like.

You know, with Ben, sometimes I have to like be like, so then this happened.

And then she's from that movie.

You remember her watched it on the plane?

Like, he, you don't require any sort of

backstory explaining.

Now, before we dive in, I do have one Sex in the City story.

And when I have a co-host on, I always like to ask them their thoughts on the Sex in the City characters because I feel like it sets a good, because I have like there, I have a hot, I have hot takes.

Oh, no, we have hot takes, although I don't think my takes are hot anymore.

I think that we've all collectively agreed that Carrie is the fucking worst.

Okay, so

pretty much I just wanted to make sure that you agreed with that.

Yeah.

Because like I hate.

No, if when I tell you, like when I meet women who are like, no, Carrie's the best, I'm like, you need to be weeded out of the world.

No, you obviously haven't re-watched the show as like an adult

with responsibilities and friends because as a kid, sure, yes, she's the most fabulous and she's like the main character.

So you're like, oh, she's the best.

Then you re-watch as you get older.

You're like, wait, this bitch is the fucking worst.

So selfish.

So selfish.

So financially irresponsible.

Yes.

That could never be me.

Like literally, has.

That episode where she, I always bring this up.

I'm asking her like Charlotte to give her ring.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Yeah.

No, it's like, if that episode were to happen nowadays, no, no.

That show would no cancel growing up is realizing Carrie was the villain of that show.

Yeah.

And honestly, we grow up thinking like Miranda's the worst.

No, Miranda's the best.

Yep.

I know whenever I say that, people are like, you're just trying to be a contrarian.

I'm like, no, I'm not.

No, I'm sorry.

Miranda's so funny.

She's such, she's so cynical, which

makes her funny.

And I feel like that's very New Yorker of her.

And I think we all just judged her because she had like weird outfits and like a weird haircut.

And like, that wasn't the vibe.

We were more into like the fabulosity of the show.

And she doesn't really contribute in terms of like fabulousness.

Yeah.

But she is, and I'm not talking about the new show because the new show is horrible i'm talking about like the og show she was the best her and samantha no i mean i honestly i love charlotte too me too me too but she's not my favorite but she's not my least favorite i mean i don't have a favorite honestly i'm thinking about it i don't have i mean besides least favorite yeah but yeah no carrie sucks okay i just wanted to like down with carry because like i can't i can't with people who are like carrie i'm such a carrie i'm like okay so you're the worst

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And the first one, we haven't had a show since Friday, so there was like so much news.

Jackie was so jealous that you were coming in today.

I know, wait, this is so annoying because last last time I was here, Jackie wasn't here.

I've wanted to have this, like, the three of us

really just do the damn thing.

Maybe me and Jackie were actually talking like after she gives birth.

We need to do like an LA week.

Yes.

So you would be a perfect LA week person.

Please, please.

Don't leave me out.

I promise.

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All right, Courtney Kardashian has debuted her baby bump days after announcing her pregnancy at Travis Barker's concert.

So Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian are welcoming a baby two days after announcing they're expecting their first child together, the Kardashian star gave fans a closer look at her pregnancy.

She took to Instagram on June 18th and she bared her bump in a series of photos taken at Travis's Blink 182 concert where she made the big reveal.

So there was like a lot of chatter about the big reveal because at first everyone was like, oh my God, Courtney's pregnant.

Let's unpack that.

Then everybody wanted to unpack the announcement.

I think a lot of people...

didn't understand like the pop culture reference and thought that she was just standing there

that she was telling Travis for the first time in front of all these people which is not her vibe

that is not their vibe i mean he's so fucking up her ass.

Like, you think there's one thing that goes on in her body that he doesn't know about?

100%.

He probably could, like, sense her ovulating just like from her aura.

Like, they're so connected.

There's no way, like, there's no way.

And I don't think people understood that, like, it's a reference from his old music video where some girl's like standing outside his concert holding a sign that says, Travis, I'm pregnant.

So, once you understand that, like, you know for sure that it's not

his finding out why.

I think that was her equivalent to like someone like me being a basic bitch and posting a sonogram photo on Instagram.

100%.

I thought hers was so creative and so cute.

Yeah.

I loved it.

At first, I didn't understand the reference immediately.

So I also was like, wait, is she telling him?

And then some people were like accusing them of being fraud jumping.

Like, he actually knew this is fake.

Like, people are so dumb.

No, stop.

But now that, now looking at it at a glance, having all the information, I thought it was so cute.

What do they think?

Do do people really think that she's going to keep that secret and announce, announce to the world the same time she she announces to her husband no that's so impersonal yeah and they're so like you know they're so connected yes

and by the way she's pretty far along she has like a bump i think once i saw the bump i was like what do you think she's like five months I don't know months.

I like think in terms of weeks.

Okay.

I want to say like she's giving like 17 week energy.

So it's between like four and five, right?

Right.

I think so.

Isn't that what it is?

Pregnancy math makes sense.

No, it fucking sucks.

Literally no sentence to me.

And what makes less sense to me is toddler math.

Oh, no.

I'm good at that.

Like, how old is Hartford?

When people ask, oh, I don't do that anymore.

She's two and a half.

Okay, she's

turned two.

Once they turn two, I don't do that anymore.

Okay, but she was like 18.

She was 23 months.

You were saying that?

Yeah.

That confuses me.

But like, I guess there really is such a difference between like a 20-month and a 22-month.

There is.

Like,

in terms of milestone.

You should know because you have so many nieces and nephews.

Yeah.

So like it is different.

They're so different.

But like, I see.

Once you turn two, I feel like it, you're like a kid now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or the terrible two is a real thing

the way i was so excited for this trip the way i was so excited to break

she's in new york i'm like i she's gonna be like hartford at the carlisle you know like eloise at the plaza but like yep she's just like i'm i can't wait i planned so many things for her so many gorgeous fun

activities the way she has channeled the brattiest version of herself and had tantrum after tantrum.

We've had to leave every dinner and lunch early.

I am just like, I get so, my blood has run cold in public so many times because I'm just so embarrassed.

Do you think she's like jet lagged?

I don't know.

Maybe.

I just like, or it's just like jokes that like, you know, we did go to the plaza for tea and he's like the ghost.

You know when like in the conjuring, when like a ghost latches onto a family, it's like Eloise latched onto Hartford.

And you need to have an exorcism.

100%.

But it has been so nice having her here.

But yeah, she is, we keep just looking at each other and being like, it's a phase.

Like, we'll survive.

We'll survive.

Terrible twos.

That's why they say terrible twos.

And I'm sure when you travel without her, it's like so devastating.

And then she's here and she's veteran it.

Like, you can't win.

No, I know.

Seriously.

Damn.

Well, I find this news like so cute and shocking.

Look, because on this show, the Kardashians,

they had spoken about how they did like intensive IVF, IUI.

Like she got her eggs retrieved and it just wasn't in the cards.

And it was really hard on her.

And she was like, you know what?

It's in God's plan now.

So to see somebody who tried so hard and like it didn't work out and then just like kind of, you know, let go of the idea and be like, what happens, happens, for it to happen for her, like I actually think is so sweet.

I think that the Kardashians can do anything they put their mind to.

I know.

Like, I really, what do you think?

Can I ask you something about the Kardashians?

Have you been on the TikTok

like path where people are talking about how the Kardashians are on their way out?

I have.

And Jackie and I.

I try and swipe out of it because I don't like that content.

Jackie and I have spoken about it.

I don't think that they're on their way out.

I think they're definitely experiencing like some sort of like flop era.

But that's good.

Yeah, and I think it's natural.

It's just, they haven't really had one this like monumental.

I think it was a series of unfortunate events.

But the only way to have an epic comeback

or to show any growth or change is to have a flop era.

So like everyone needs a flop era every now and then.

And I think something like this, where it's like so wholesome, this this pregnancy, so wholesome, the announcement was not like, you know,

tacky or it was just like really sweet.

I think things like this really endear people to the Kardashians because at the end of the day, like they are a family.

And the things that are important to them are really the things that are important to most people.

Like, you know, loyalty and they're very, you know, they're religious, like faith.

I think a lot of people connect to like a lot of their core values.

And so something like this, I think, reminds people, like, they're really at the end of the day, they're just like a family.

Yes.

You know, Courtney wanted to get pregnant, and that was something she struggled with.

That so many people struggle with.

So, like, this, something like this, I think, is really good for the family.

And they have had like a hard year in terms of like public perception, I think.

But I don't think they're out.

No, I don't think they're ever going to be out.

No, no.

What do you think about Kylie Jenner dressing like Sophia Regina?

I love it.

Jackie had a really interesting take on it that like totally changed my perception of, I think for a really long time, like the cool way of dressing was like very provocative and thoughty.

And that's just not a trend I'll ever participate in.

One, because my body limits me in that.

But also, it's just like not my style.

No, I could be the hottest bitch out there.

I could look like Lala Kent.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

And I would never dress.

I can't.

Like it's just, I feel uncomfortable.

Same.

It's not who I am.

And that's not judging other people who do.

It's just not who I am.

And so for Sophia Ritchie to make dressing modest cool is such a powerful thing because now all these girls who used to like run around with their tits out are now like wearing blazers and slacks.

It's actually amazing what she's done for the culture.

Okay.

I

have a hot take.

Let's hear it.

I don't like it because I feel like that's already the style that I've had for so long.

And now that it's popular, everyone's dressing like me.

And now it's going to become unpopular.

And I'm still going to be here left dressing granny chic.

And then I'm going to look like I'm just behind on the trend.

But that is the most you thing ever because you are.

proudly a basic bitch.

And now the thing that you love the most, your style, has become the most kind of common borderline basic.

Yeah, I guess you're right.

Now, actually, another, whenever I do like co-hosts, I'm always like, Jackie and I think this, and Jack, but Jackie and I were just talking about this.

How we really feel like strongly that you are not basic.

Wow.

You are like so different.

Like, I feel like you march to the beat of your own drum.

Like, you don't give a fuck what anyone thinks.

And, like, yes, some of your interests, like, ranch.

Yeah, it's like basic.

But you really, at your core, like, you're not a basic person.

You're like deeply original.

Okay.

Well, I think it all depends on your definition of basic.

That's true.

Because my definition of basic is just really like being unafraid to lean into the things that you really love.

And it's like about being like passionate and excited about things.

It's like Taylor Swift energy.

Yes, I know it.

I know exactly what I'm saying.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like that's my definition.

I'm not embarrassed to be excited about something.

Correct.

Like that's my definition of basic.

Okay.

So when it comes to that, I feel like I'm truly basic.

That I agree with.

But when I think it comes to like style and just like aesthetic and your home, like your home is so I've never walked well I've never been in your house, but I've never seen a house that was styled like that by like a young millennial woman.

Wait, thank you.

That is one of the best compliments.

Like right under like, wow, Sassy, you're a really good mom.

Like telling me that like my home

and the style of it is so different.

Even the house that you bought is like an older, more charming home.

I feel like all the houses in LA like look like mental institutions.

They're all made of cement and windows.

Like

you are so different in that sense and you're so not basic in that.

Thank you.

But I understand your definition of basic, and I agree.

And I love that, that Taylor Swift quote: Like, people, there's nothing worse than somebody who makes fun of someone for being excited about something

who are like, why don't you just like lower your voice?

Like, excuse me?

I haven't heard that one.

No, like, people who like tell you, like, calm down when you're excited about something.

Yeah, totally.

Yeah.

Um, okay, the next story is, I know something you are, it's like so

you, like, it's so something you would be obsessed with.

And I think a lot of people are really kind of quaking about the search and rescue operation

that is underway for a submersive, submersible touring the wreck of the Titanic.

Basically, a submarine.

So officials are in a race against time to find a civilian submarine.

They keep calling it a submersible, and I'm not calling it that.

A submarine that had five people aboard after it went missing on Sunday in the North Atlantic while voyaging to the wreckage of the Titanic.

The 21-foot vessel has four days of emergency capability, the leader of the search and rescue effort said Monday.

afternoon as crews with the U.S.

and Canadian Coast Guards continued scouring the ocean surface about 900 miles east of of Cape Cod and used sonar to listen for sounds far below the surface, which is up to 13,000 feet deep in the area.

So there are five people on board the vessel, which was an expedition to view the wreckage of the Titanic.

It was comprised of one pilot and four mission specialists.

They haven't identified the five people, but...

They have figured out who one of the people is based on social media.

A British businessman based in the United Arab

Emirates, his name is Hamish Harding, is one one of the people on the submarine, according to a social media post by the company he owns.

So there's also today this morning, I saw one of the people in there is a father and son, and the son is 19 years old.

When I tell you, I could not sleep last night.

I know.

I could not sleep.

I just wanted to look at these videos, these TikToks, everything.

Did you see that it's...

They did a tour of the submarine.

It's not big.

No, it's the smallest.

And there's one little round window.

And the controller that they they use to control it is a PS3.

Excuse me?

I'm not fucking joking.

I didn't make this up.

It's in multiple TikToks, like in

an interview that they did.

Here's what I don't understand because I saw a picture of the submarine.

I saw that little window.

So if you're going to go all the way down to view the wreckage, and there's one tiny little window for five people.

I don't understand.

I don't.

Oh, and Jackie also told me a crazy statistic.

So they have four days of emergency supplies.

I think I saw last night that like they have like probably 96 hours to find it.

But Jackie had said like if they wanted wanted to build a submarine that was powerful enough to go down and like find to use for search and rescue, it would take 30 years for that submarine to be built.

Like

the equipment in order to properly like find these people actually doesn't exist, which is what's so scary.

Oh my God.

Well, also, I read that the most dangerous rescue mission they've ever done was 11,000 feet higher than what this is.

So if they were able to find them, this will be the deepest rescue mission.

Right.

Like I'm the way like this is, if I choose, if I allow myself to think about it too much, it will be the only thing I think about.

Like, what are they doing right now?

No.

All I can.

Yeah, yeah.

What are they doing?

They're in there right now.

Do you think that they're at the point where they've lost hope?

Do you think that they're playing

games?

Like, do you, do you think that?

I don't know, but like also, and I didn't want to get too dark.

Okay, so they say they have four days of emergency supplies.

So that obviously means like food, right?

And oxygen.

Oxygen.

So what does that mean?

And we're all, i think we're on like 60 hours now so but what does that mean does that mean like i don't what is what happens when you run out of oxygen like you just pass out and die well i don't know exactly like the pain is it like you do you suffocate

but like there's also but see there's also like still air they're like in do you know what i mean no but it's not oxy it's not what you can breathe it's not what you can breathe but i also read that right now they could be getting hypothermia Oh, because they're so far down and it's so cold down there.

Yeah.

And like, oh my God, there are so many videos on TikTok.

Like someone was doing an interview and they're like, he just had lost hope.

He, the way that he was interviewing was like, he was this Titanic expert or submarine Titanic expert.

And he's just like, I think that something went wrong immediately and they're not even here anymore.

Oh.

Yeah.

Like what, like the pressure, the water pressure like crushed it or something like that.

Something went wrong.

But also the submarine being 21 feet, that's like not big at all.

So you're literally looking for a needle in a haystack because you're so far down.

It's what?

But they're supposed to be be by the Titanic.

It's not like they're scanning a whole lot.

I'm like, you, you, we know where they went.

By the way, if somebody would have asked me where the wreck of the Titanic was, I would not have said 900 miles off the coast of Cape Cod.

I literally thought it was like in London.

I don't know.

Like,

I saw.

I was saw it from.

It was from London to New York.

They were back to New York.

But they were like pretty close or to Boston, I think.

But they were like pretty close to Boston.

Okay.

I didn't realize.

So they were like...

They were more than halfway there, I think.

That's unless the wreckage I kind of floated, but I I just was shocked at the map

I'm just shocked at the whole thing.

I feel like I can't believe we're living in a time where this is happening.

Like, I know.

It is, and to know that they're, if something hasn't gone wrong, like if they're still there, like right now, as we're talking about this,

they're

working with each other on all like I'm trying to figure out they're going through all of the emotions and all the like phases of like accepting right and like you can't just like disembark like and start swimming because you're literally so far down right yeah no you are just stuck in there and i think if you even like went swimming like not swimming but like if you if they had like press the water the water pressure would kill you like yeah it's like freezing it's so like the sea level is crazy shot out into space right right

So, and this is a private mission.

Oh my God, the bathroom.

No, I was thinking about that.

There is like a little toilet on that one.

Right.

But it's, you're in there with it.

And there's five people yeah

oh my god like i'm i it's my worst nightmare like

but this isn't like an official government it was like a private company doing this 250 000 a ticket that's insane to see through one little window and taylor had a really good point because i was i asked her about it last night and she was like taylor strecker and she was like you know, these billionaires, like really wealthy people, it's like normal activities.

Thrill seeking things.

Yeah, it's a thrill-seeking thing.

Like they're, they get to experience so much of life that it's like, what can we push?

Push.

That's like everyone go into space.

That's also like 250 grand a ticket.

I would never.

I would never.

I would never.

I have zero desire.

Honestly, I have zero desire to leave my house on a Friday night.

100%.

And do you know how uncomfortable that rocket ship is?

Let's say something happened.

We had to like chill in space for a while.

Like there's no bed.

There's no TV.

I am so content here on Earth.

Earth has everything I need.

I agree.

Uber, seamless, close.

Like, there's really, there's nothing I don't need that it doesn't exist for me here on Earth.

No, I agree.

I agree.

So I will never be, and maybe it's just that I'm not rich enough, but I don't need to go to space.

No, it's not about being rich enough.

It's, no.

It's about being happy in your life.

Like,

these people who pay a quarter of a million dollars to go to space for 30 seconds, like, seriously?

What's the point?

Wild.

This story is so sad.

It's so scary.

And it's just like, if you think about it too long, like, if, like it's not.

No, that's what I mean.

Like if I allow my brain to really go there and really think about it, I fully spiral.

And like, I really do recommend everyone looking up, like.

searching on TikTok and seeing all these videos.

Also, everyone in the comment section is like really savage and funny.

And I'm like,

this is not the time.

This is not the time.

Like, I'm not one to be like inappropriate.

I never out of pets.

I never feel that way.

But like,

you guys, they're dying.

Yeah.

I know.

And do you think, think, like, I mean, then you also have to think about like the human nature element of it.

It's, it could, it could very quickly turn like Lord of the Flies, you know?

Once you know that, like, things are

not going to end.

Yeah, you know that the oxygen is going to run out.

So maybe you kill the other four so that you can have more oxygen.

Right.

Until people find you.

Oh my God.

No, like, it's, that's what happens.

Like, you're kind of.

Claudia, you know, the way that my brain did not go there.

You're like, survivor's instinct kicks in.

You know, there's only so much food, so much oxygen.

Like,

yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

Totally separate.

I have to tell you the craziest thing that happened to me last night.

People need to know what happened to me.

Okay.

Now let me set the scene.

Okay.

I read the spookiest thriller book before bed last night.

It was so good.

Good.

It was called Never Lie by Frida McFadden.

I highly recommend.

So I'm just like feeling on edge like before bed.

I shouldn't have read it before bed, but it was so good.

So Ben gets home.

He had been to dinner.

We like hang out, whatever.

We're going to sleep.

It's really early.

It's like 10.30, but we have a long day today because we're driving to boston so i was like you know what

let's go to bed early 10 30 my husband like one of the things i hate most about him 10 seconds he could fall asleep yeah no i he has nothing

to i know i have to take like massive amounts of melatonin and like unisome don't worry it's pregnancy safe my daughter

yeah so i'm just like annoyed and it's like 10 30 it's 11 it's 11 30 it's 12.

And at about like 1230, Ben has passed out.

I'm like, like, I'm not asleep, but I'm like, feel, I'm starting to get tired, but I'm like, you know, let me pee.

So I don't turn on any of the lights and I'm sitting in the pitch black on the toilet and I'm peeing and I'm just kind of like looking down and I look up and in the doorway of the bathroom is there's a man.

Okay.

There's a man standing there.

Okay.

And I let out the most

blood-curdling scream.

It was actually, you know, I've never been in like, think, you know, knockwood, thank God, like immense danger before, but that's, I never knew, I never knew what sound my voice would make if I was ever in in like fight or flight.

Right.

I, I can't, I don't even remember.

It was blood curl.

Like scream.

And as I'm screaming, I realize that the man in front of me is Ben.

And

it's pitch black.

So Ben doesn't see me on the toilet.

He's

he's trying to pee, but he's in there.

He didn't know you were in there.

He didn't know I was in there and I didn't know he was in there.

So he's trying to go pee and he he hears this like, by the lung fire, crazy scream.

And then lets out, like, he was just trying to pee and it's pitch black.

He just hears a woman screaming.

He starts screaming like his kind of danger, like danger, danger, scream.

What does his sound like?

Honestly, I was so triggered, I don't even remember.

We just both, I'm sitting on the toilet.

He's standing in the doorway of the bathroom.

We're We're both just screaming.

And, you know, after a few seconds, we both realize we're not in danger and that the person, the woman screaming in the bathroom is me and the man standing in the doorway is Ben.

But when I tell you, like, it took me 25 seconds to like realize what was going on to calm down.

I literally called my doorman because I'm like, our neighbors are going to think it was like an actual, if somebody had, if you had woken up in the middle of the night with a knife over you, that's the sounds we were making.

Correct.

Okay.

I called the doorman and I was like, if anybody calls you about a scream, like it was me.

We're fine.

It was just like a misunderstanding.

but i'm like i couldn't decide whose fault it was and i also couldn't decide whose experience was more scary it was clearly ben's fault like he didn't realize getting out of bed that i wasn't in the bed

but i can imagine for ben it's pitch black he's just going to pee and all of a sudden he hears like the most insane like

high you had like samara vibes with your hair What's Samara?

Is that the woman's ring?

The ring, yeah.

Yeah.

But I am a firm believer.

Like, I believe my experience was more scary.

Like to just look up and see the shadow of a man standing in your, in your bathroom in the middle of the night when you've already read this book.

I don't feel like it's a competition.

It's just very equal.

No, I feel it.

I feel very equal.

Whose fault was it?

Well, it definitely wasn't your fault.

Yes.

Like, it definitely wasn't your fault.

Whether it was anyone's fault is questionable.

That's up for debate.

But, like, it wasn't yours.

And the most insane thing, like, I'm shaking, Stasi.

Like, I'm like on the verge of tears.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry because the whole thing is so absurd, but I'm like, I'm actually like shaking.

I'm like, Ben, like, we get back in bed.

I'm like, he's passed out.

I'm like, you don't want to talk about what just happened?

He's like, so tired.

I'm like, are you good?

I'm like, are you okay?

Like, you're asleep right now.

How can you sleep at a time like this?

Oh, man.

Passed out.

And then this morning he woke up.

I'm like, we need to talk about last night.

He's like, what happened?

I'm like, what?

Wait, like, it's a fight that you guys got in?

No, that were like, that you, you went to bed angry.

After 10 seconds, we need to discuss it.

after 10 seconds he's like oh yeah that was crazy i'm like crazy

that was psychotic oh my god i totally forgot about that until this morning thank you for letting me like it was the craziest i have to stop reading thrillers before bed don't you get nervous or like embarrassed that like your neighbors might think that like you're having a domestic like something dispute like yeah the thing is people in my building are so um like not nosy.

Like they keep to themselves, but then I'm like,

I wish you would be nosy because I'm screaming in the middle of the night.

Good point.

Good point.

Yeah.

And the next, I did find out this morning, somebody did call, which like made me, I was like, oh, thank God, because something actually happened.

I want, you know, everyone calling once I scream.

Yeah.

So it made me feel good.

But the second we stopped screaming, my first instinct was like so New York.

I was like, I have to call the doorman because like it's such a crazy, it was such a crazy sound that I made.

And I was worried about my neighbors.

Sounds like it was like a wild animal screech.

It was, it was not human.

I'm sorry that that happened to you.

Isn't that a crazy story?

Sorry.

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Speaking of a crazy story, just trying to segue here, Bibi Rexa was hospitalized.

Actually, the craziest thing, and the whole thing was caught on camera.

I saw.

So she says she's good after being hit in the face with a phone on stage, which doesn't sound as bad as it actually is.

So Bibi Rexa was struck in the face and injured by a cell phone during a concert in New York City, and the man who threw it has been arrested.

So she was knocked to the ground during her Sunday night show at the rooftop at Pier 17 in lower Manhattan.

The phone hit Bibi on the forehead in the middle of a song, splitting her eyebrow and requiring stitches.

She was escorted immediately off the stage and treated by a medical team at the venue as seen in footage on TikTok.

So the guy who threw the phone, his name is Nicholas Malvagna.

He's 27.

He's from Manalapan, New Jersey, and he is accused of throwing the phone.

He was arrested at the venue, charged with felony assault for using his cell phone phone as a weapon.

The NYPD confirmed to People magazine.

He will be arraigned later Monday.

Police confirmed that Bibi Rexa was taken to a nearby hospital in stable condition.

She posted on Instagram sharing what appeared to be like a brutal wound.

Yeah.

I'm saying, I'm good in a nod to her latest hit song.

So she's handling it like a champ, but the footage is like really upsetting.

I know, it's wild.

Like, I hate this guy.

Yes.

At first, I couldn't tell if it was like an accident, because, you know, a lot of artists will be like, give me your phone.

And like maybe, you know, she wanted to like record something and he tossed it.

But it was very, like, I wasn't sure, but then it looked like

it was a phone flying through the air.

Overhand, not underhand.

But like, who, so who's going to pay money to go to a show?

Yep.

A show where they're going to use their own phone.

to hurt so it it makes no sense it makes no sense i know and it's like it's not like even something you can do anonymously it's your phone we just open it up and see who's in the background, and we know it's you.

Yeah.

You can't get away with this sort of crime.

Like, I want to know, like, was this fully premeditated and how long?

Like, we're deplaning it for weeks, days.

That's what's people are so deeply unwell.

No, 100%.

And

as somebody who toured, yeah, I know.

It's my worst nightmare.

Wait, the other night when we were on stage, all of the sudden there was this deep,

giant, ominous scream

from someone in the audience.

We thought it was,

we thought it was it.

Yeah.

We thought, like, and all of a sudden they were going, um,

you're just a

worm with a mustache.

But I tell you, I thought, no, I thought it was, it was over.

It was like the great and powerful Oz sounding in this, in the audience.

And me, Bo, and Taylor froze.

And I thought, this is it.

Like, this is fully it.

I, I, I couldn't even like get the words out to be like, everybody, get under your seat, get under your seat.

And it was somebody saying, you're just a worm with a mustache.

So I totally know what you're talking about it's like the the littlest things when you're on stage you're so vulnerable like yeah the littlest things like a footstep or somebody getting up to go to the bathroom yeah that freaks me out like sometimes i'll i'll hear people like walking just to like go to the bar or go to the bathroom but it sounds because of like the echo on the stage it sounds like they're coming from behind me and it freaks me out i'm like always like on edge and it's hard because you're like trying to perform and like you know entertain people but you're so on edge that i know exactly like sometimes just the tone of someone's voice at the very beginning can just set you you off

and make you think you're in danger.

Yes.

So, for something like this to actually happen,

oh my God, it's my worst nightmare.

I feel so bad for it.

And she's like having such a good attitude about the whole thing.

But how does she ever go and perform again?

I don't know.

I'd be like, that's it for me.

I know.

That's it.

I mean, music concerts are more

like high-energy, and I feel like crazier things happen at music concerts.

But still, like, how do you even prevent this from happening?

You sound like you can take

phones.

I don't know.

I'm like, I'm so, this is like such an upsetting story.

Yeah.

And I, her, her face looks like brutal.

It's like a full-blown black eye.

Stitches.

Yeah.

Her eye is purple.

It's like bulging.

It's like a major, you just think a phone is a phone, but a phone is very heavy.

Yes.

And when

it's being thrown

and when you least expect it, you're singing and your cute outfits.

Yeah.

I feel so bad for her.

Yeah.

It's really upsetting.

And I really hope she's okay.

And like, honestly, I hope this man gets what's coming to him so that it like discourages anyone else from doing this.

Completely.

Because if people think they can get away with stuff like this,

people are not well.

Yes, I know.

People are insane.

I'm like, I have three shows left.

Now I'm fucking scared.

I know.

I have to, I can't lie.

Like, I can't wait for your tour to be over.

Like, you've took away like my friend.

I don't have a lot.

I'm sorry.

Literally only three days left.

Three shows left.

Where are the remaining shows?

Are there tickets available?

I don't.

I don't know that there's tickets available.

It's L.A.

Oh, that's a big one.

Poor.

Is that your birthday?

It's my birthday.

That's exciting.

Well, I'm scared about that one because I feel like if there are people that don't like me, they're going to be in LA.

And like, if they wanted to show up and throw a phone at me, that would be the location.

Not to like be so self-promotional, but did you ever read my book?

It's okay if you didn't.

I did not.

That's totally fine.

So there is a,

by the way, I'm literally not offended.

I'm not in all fairness.

You didn't send me one?

I didn't.

No.

So if, so.

I need to go.

I'll send you home with my copy.

I need to go and put it in.

But I'm not offended in the slightest.

Like, I swear to God, I don't take it personally.

Like, my husband, like, I had to literally hold it onto his head for him to read my book.

I know, but it's fine.

But there is a story in there actually that has to deal with Taylor Strecker.

When I got canceled,

I had like no work and I had no money coming in.

So like the only thing I could really do to like generate revenue and just like get out of my house was to do live shows, which is like the scariest thing.

Yeah.

Because you just think, you know, you always think your situation is worse than it is, but like mine was pretty bad.

And I was like, everyone hates me, everyone hates me.

And Taylor Strecker called me like the day of my show and she was like, I do not want to give you a pit.

Like I don't want to give you anxiety.

But I just heard this thing and I just,

I didn't know what to do with this information.

So like I have to give it to you.

She's like, somebody, I forget who it was, but it was somebody like a reputable who like works in the industry had told Taylor Strecker that there were people were planning to protest outside my show.

And she was like,

I don't know what you want to do, but like, I just thought I should tell you.

And I'm like, oh my God, thank you.

I was so panicky.

I mean, I had no choice.

It was literally the day of the show.

It ended up raining really bad that night and nobody ever protested.

And I don't know if that's because the rumor was a lie or because, you know, my sense of self-importance was just like, you know, way blown out of proportion or because it was raining.

But it was the scariest night of my life.

Claudio, the way I would have probably canceled, I know, I thought about it.

Like that is, that's terrifying, especially I know what that feels like.

Yeah.

When you're in a situation where you're canceled.

And, but it's like canceled, but people get so invested that like they become maniacal.

Yes.

And you fear, you literally do fear for your life at times.

The thought of somebody like doing something crazy and like bringing a knife or something is not that far fetched.

It's not far-fetched.

Like it happens to people.

Yep.

Quite often.

Yeah.

Yes.

Far more than you would think that it does.

So that just reminded me of, yes, to have that panic.

But no, your LA show is going to be amazing.

And you're doing the wheel turn?

No, we did the wheel turn.

I'm doing the Ace Hotel.

I've done it.

It's literally the most beautiful.

It's insanely gorgeous.

That's what everyone says.

All the photos that I keep looking at, I'm like, oh, it looks like the Gilded Age.

So you.

Yeah.

By the way, whatever happened to the show, The Gilded Age?

I feel like it was coming.

It's coming back.

Is it?

Yeah.

When?

I just know that it is.

Like, because I researched to be able to get it.

And you know it wasn't canceled.

I know for a fact it was not canceled.

It was not as good as I wanted it to be, but it still fed my soul.

And it got much better.

Like, I do think the second season will be very good.

Yeah, I think so, too.

Like the first, the first few episodes where they were like setting the scene, I was like, my God, this is so fucking boring.

I think that like what made it kind of like not what I thought is like you look at something like Downton Abbey and they have like the real locations.

Yeah.

It's like you're seeing the you're seeing the actual place.

You're seeing the grounds.

Yep.

Whereas on um Gilded Age, there was so much like CGI and sets that like

that to to me, it like kind of took us out of it.

And actually, a good segue into our next story is: I think one of the things that ruined it was Cynthia Nixon being in it.

I agree with you.

Not because she's a bad actress, I love Cynthia Nixon, but I think she's too famous to play anything other than Miranda.

I completely agree with you.

Which is a great segue into our next story.

Sarah Jessica Parker and Kristen Davis are both speaking out about Kim Cottrell's big return.

We heard from Kim.

We did not hear from the other ladies, and now we have.

So she spoke to Page Six and said,

according to uh i mean after kim cottrell's return she says it's been a lot of joy okay

that's what she had to say about kim cottrell's brief appearance she also said it was really fun and exciting and certainly nostalgic

okay that the follow-up is better yeah

but

in no way has it been a lot of joy for sjp no i have like a theory and i don't think it's like that far-fetched because it's been made it like clear that like the narrative is is that Kim Cottrell is the one who's difficult.

None of the other ladies got along with her.

So it's like when three people say you're difficult, you're difficult, you know?

So I understand that's how it works, but I can totally see a world in which Sarah Jessica Parker is the villain of this story and like Kim Cottrell is the victim.

I know I sound crazy.

Maybe I'm just biased.

Maybe I'm also don't sound crazy.

This is like a little more popular of an opinion than you would think.

But maybe I'm also just seeing the situation through the lens of their characters, which is not fair.

I know, I think it's because Sarah Jessica Parker gives like, um,

like trying,

it's like she's always trying to look like the goody two-shoes one.

You know what I mean?

It's nobody's like that.

Sorry.

No one's like that all the time.

Especially like a big Hollywood star.

Yes, like it's okay.

Like we want to see a little bit of realness.

We want to see a little bit of cattyness.

Like

it's, it's real.

No one is that good all the time.

All the time.

I agree.

And I think that's what.

So people like start to see through it.

Yes.

I think it's like the same thing that like the same problem that people have with Megan Markle.

yeah is that like they're like where's the relatability you're just trying to be so perfect and perfect that's actually a really good comparison what do you think about her podcast drama it's wild it's wild no it's like it's like really wild and that that guy what's his name bill simmons or oh from the ringer yes yeah who is now a spotify executive coming out what are you calling them fucking grifters well I mean, I don't think it can be considered a grift because I don't think they got paid their full contract because they didn't deliver what you don't just get paid immediately.

You get paid once you deliver and finish certain requirements of you.

So I think they maybe got like five or six or seven million, but they definitely didn't get the full 20.

I mean, I, but I also feel like when you sign a contract, it was Bill Simmons who said that.

Yeah, he started the ringer.

Yes, which they got acquired by Spotify.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just think that when they signed that contract, they had to have talked about the fact that, okay, we're going to do 12 episodes.

Like, I don't think that that was news to anyone.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I

do think, I mean, I I listened to the podcast and I'm a huge Megan Marco fan, so I wanted to like it so bad.

I know.

I really, I tried so hard, but I think what she's missing is that relatability.

I think she's scared to be honest.

To really be honest and to really like let her flaws show.

Because people just pounce anytime she does anything.

Exactly.

And I understand that she's in that position.

I understand why she doesn't want to show any weakness or anything that...

that she feels people could criticize, but that is what we want to see.

No, and that's what really, like, that's what podcasting is it was so overproduced and so scripted and like so it felt like a like a tv show yeah that's not what podcasting is podcasting is sitting here and me being like pull your mic closer like it's so yeah it's like feeling like you are in the room with them and you're friends with them you're talking or you're a fly on the wall yeah and it was not that and now it's also coming out that like you know her voice was actually like added in later like i knew that i could tell by listening to it i'm like oh she didn't interview a lot of these people some of them she did yeah but like some of them no like did you read andy cohen's recent book no i think think you would like it.

Well, I feel like it's like weird because you have like a thing with Andy.

Like you obviously know him, but it's actually a really good book.

It's a lot about parenthood.

So I feel like you would like that.

Okay.

But there's a thing about Megan Markle in it that I found so interesting.

Tell me.

So he did her podcast.

Yes.

And he had said, they did this really long interview.

And he brought up,

he said, were you silent?

Or were you silenced?

And he was like really proud of himself for just like putting that in.

And then they get to the podcast.

It actually comes out and and they cut out his Oprah thing.

He was really upset about that.

But then before they aired his interview on the podcast, Megan gives, you know, one of her like pre-recorded spiels.

Right.

Basically saying how she was like kind of nervous to interview Andy because she feels like podcast, not podcasts, excuse me, housewives and Bravo like hasn't been great for women and like feminism.

And he was like, what the fuck?

Like you never said that to me in the interview.

And like maybe if you did, we would have had a much more complex and dynamic and interesting conversation.

And the podcast wouldn't have been so fucking boring.

Right.

But like to say that as like a precursor to the interview and then not bring it up is like so tacky.

And maybe there is a conversation to be had.

I actually, I hate that.

I hate that sentiment that people say housewives is bad for women.

Like I don't agree with that.

But like to say it and then not say it to my face is like so cowardly.

I didn't know that.

I know.

It was so interesting.

I know.

I feel like she just keeps making like all the wrong decisions.

Yes.

And like I will forever root for her.

I really, because I feel like she's in an impossible

situation and she's backed herself into this corner.

But like I think deep down she like what she really wants is to do good for the world she wants to live a good life a peaceful life i'm sure she loves wealth and and nice things and that's fine all the rest of us like that stuff too there's nothing wrong with that

i just wish like um i could be her publicist and i could be like listen my strategy for you is to like just you need to like reel it up you need to just like or show people who you are or don't or pull back or pull back like don't be doing docuseries books but they have to make money i know that's what they have in order to make money is their dream and their stories.

Like that's that's what it is.

No, you're 100% right.

It's like a it's honestly a terrible position to be in.

I just wish more people would have compassion for them because like yes, they are incredibly fucking privileged, but we have no idea what it's like to be Harry or Megan.

Or to be a royal.

And then if they were to go, if she was to go and try and act right now, she'd be criticized and made fun of.

And that was, that was what she knew.

So what do we expect her to do?

No, that's fair.

That's fair.

But if she won't kind of break down that fourth wall and like be like an honest,

vulnerable person, which is easier said than done, then I don't think these projects are the right projects for her.

Correct.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, but that's a good point.

And then just lastly, Charlotte from Sex in the City, this is what she said.

She told the Telegraph last week that while she understands fans are upset, Kim Cottrell doesn't have a bigger role in the spin-off, she doesn't have any strong feelings about it.

She said, I'm not going to waste energy on it.

I can't change anybody.

I do understand the fans' feelings, that they're upset.

I wish I could fix it, but I can't.

It's not in my power.

You know, I just, I don't know.

Like, I

just, it reminds me all of like Vanner Pump rules.

And like, when I'm like not friends with someone, I feel like I relate to Kim Control in this situation.

That's very interesting.

Comparing myself to Kim Control,

to the great Kim Control.

But like,

I have felt on the outside so many times, but I feel like the reasons why are valid.

Like, I'm hurt by certain things.

I'm choosing to be on the outside.

And then the people that are,

I guess I'm against or

opposing

with, I don't know, arguing this.

Their argument is like, well, we can all get along.

We're all friends.

So if you're the one with the problem, and it's like, no, each of you guys has hurt me.

I'm deciding to not

be a part of that anymore.

Like, I choose to have people in my life that I feel like I can trust and bring happiness and good and enrich it instead of take from it.

But like, so if that means, but I'm the only one on the outside, so therefore I must be the bad guy.

No, by the way, it's totally giving Venner Prump rules.

And I don't think it's so crazy to say that like Venner Prump rules, especially in like the early days with like Jax, Kristen, you, Tom, like, I don't think it's crazy to say that like Venner Prump Rules was the sex and city of our generation.

Like, I don't think that's the craziest thing to say.

Do you?

Oh my God, you can say it.

I can't.

Yeah, no, you can't.

But like, I am going to start thinking it.

Like, you are definitely...

There's something there.

There's, there's a, oh my God, was I the carry?

Oh, no.

Well, maybe, because if you look back, I was the the absolute worst.

No, like I was in the moment.

They loved to hate me.

No, actually, you were like always acting like an animal, but like everyone, like nobody cared.

Like they just like loved you no matter what you did.

You know, like it kind of is giving carry.

I think it is.

Oh my God.

And then you grew up into a Samantha slash Miranda hybrid.

I think that's, I think that's a good place to leave it, you know?

Our fifth and final story is some Barbie movie news.

I'm obsessed with the Barbie movie.

I would love to to get your take on it.

And they did like a really cute, smart little promo thing for it with Architectural Digest.

So the Barbie Dream House has opened its doors.

Margo Robbie hosted a tour of Barbie's iconic home in a new video for Architectural Digest ahead of the theatrical release of the live-action Barbie film.

Um, and kind of how they do those like celebrity home tours, they did one for Barbie's house.

I think it's so cute.

So they showed off the over-the-top dream house, which features a pool, a bold pink kitchen, a peek-a-view, peek-a-boo view, peek-a-boo view of Barbie's neighbors on the set of the film while she was dressed in character in a light pink and blue checkered cropped jacket, high-waisted miniskirt, and a hat.

She looked so cute.

Her kitchen

has a pink fridge, a round pink breakfast table.

She said, not super practical, but nothing is for Barbie.

I'm just obsessed with this.

I think this was like the smartest promo.

I thought it was so smart on AD's part.

I thought it was so smart on Barbie's part.

I cannot wait to see this.

Oh, I'm so excited.

And everybody who criticized that, because I feel like I've already heard criticism mainly about Ryan Gosling.

Yeah.

I am not understanding.

First of all, did Ken have an age that I was unaware of?

Okay, so I feel like you're talking directly to me because I was very critical of Ryan Gosling and I'll explain.

Ken didn't have an age.

Exactly.

But Ken was flawless.

And I'm sorry.

Ryan Gosling is extremely hot.

He's not flawless.

Who would you cast?

I forget who said this and I don't want to take credit for it, but I thought it was an amazing call.

Austin Butler.

He's not flawless.

No, he literally doesn't have a wrinkle insight.

Like, not to be aegist or anything, but like, sorry, he, I don't know what you're doing old.

Ryan Gosling, you don't think Austin Butler's that hot?

Not really.

I mean, I think he was hot recently when he got like a spray tan for the Oscars.

And I'm like, oh, I love a spray tan.

But you might have loved him as Ken.

Like, I'm just saying, somebody with a perfect face.

Like, no,

that's what Jacob Alordi do.

I was thinking that too.

He has like a really nice, like...

Ken-looking face.

Yeah.

But not to be mean, but like, when you look at Margot Robbie, her face is perfection.

There's not a thing out of place.

Like, she literally looks like a Barbie doll.

Ryan Gosling, like, was just giving, like, not, like, perfection.

And I know perfection is like an unattainable standard, but Margot Robbie did it flawlessly.

Correct.

Okay.

No, I'm just, I love Ryan Gosling so much.

Same, same.

That's...

Oh, it's like, you know, it's like when you complain about Blake Lively in the new.

Yes, it ends with us.

It's just, yeah, you can still love Blake Lively, but just think it's like the wrong fit.

What do you think about that casting?

Did you read the book?

I didn't read the book, but like I've now.

It's interesting because you're such a big reader.

Well, I've fallen off a little bit.

I haven't read a book in four months.

Really?

Get me back on it.

Okay.

I need to get back on it.

I wanted to read weird things, right?

Like historical fiction.

Yeah, but I also like you guys recommended a lot of shit that wasn't historical fiction that I ended up reading and really loved.

Like, honestly, most of the books that I was reading, I found through you guys or your fans.

Well, then I have a list for you.

Please.

What's your favorite type of book?

Well, historical fiction.

Oh, well, duh.

Like, do you like thrillers?

I do.

I love thrillers.

Do you like smut, like romance books?

I'm not really into that.

Big mistake.

Huge.

I mean, I could, like, try and get there.

I'll send you a list.

Okay.

I'll send you a list.

Yeah, I need to, like, get on the wagon again.

Yeah, I feel like pregnancy is such a perfect time for reading, no?

I've been busy.

Yeah, you have.

But you've also been traveling a lot, and travel is the perfect time for

reading.

Yeah, no, good point.

Missed opportunity there.

Missed opportunity.

Okay, it's fine.

Do you ever read The Rose Code?

The Rose Code.

I don't think I heard of it.

It's like a popular historical fiction book that I have to read for my book club, and I'm like dreading it because I hate historical fiction.

So I was wondering if you had read it.

Oh, that sucks that you hate historical fiction.

I know.

I mean, I don't hate it.

I just never choose it.

But I've read quite a few that I loved, but it's just never what I reach for.

I always reach for like a thriller.

Well, like television shows, what do you reach for?

Everything.

Like,

I have a wide spectrum.

Like, I do love like downton guilt, gilded age, but I love, you know.

Unscripted.

I love, I'm watching Shrinking now.

I love it.

I love Ted Lasso.

I watch everything.

No, literally, historical fiction is the only thing I reach for in like all categories of it.

In TV, too.

Yeah.

Movies, everything.

Like you love Bridgerton.

Yes.

It's like the only thing that makes me feel like I, I, I truly am excited about the content that I'm, even my TikTok algorithm.

Yeah.

I can imagine darkness everywhere.

Um, well, what are your thoughts on the Barbie movie in terms of like the trailer we've gotten?

Like what, do you think it's gonna be good?

Oh, yes.

No, I think it's gonna be fucking perfect.

Margaret Robbie doesn't make bad movies.

I mean, well,

I don't know.

Lately, I feel like her movies aren't.

They're a little artsy.

They're a little artsy.

They're not, like, hitting with like the rest of us basic

bitches.

You know what I mean?

But I feel like her big-budget blockbuster movies are always good.

Like, Itanya, like, when she's doing the most for a movie.

Yeah.

No, you know, I just, I don't see how Barbie could be a flop.

I know.

I just, I don't see a world where, especially because they've been trying to get this movie made in so many different ways for so long that that like they're not gonna half-ass it no and visually it looks so beautiful yeah i mean is it really true that like they had a paint a pink paint shortage in the world because of the barbie movie did you read this i didn't they said that there was a pink paint shortage in the world because of the Barbie movie because they wanted everything the pink to be so vibrant right i mean i believe that but i also feel like for the last few years there's just been like shortages of everything and they're like covid china you know like like there was literally a shortage of glitter remember like there's a short, there's a shortage of, there was a shortage of glitter.

There was a shortage of like washing machines and cars because of like the microchips that have to go in it.

Like, there was a shortage of everything.

Isn't that weird that we lived through COVID?

No, I know.

If you like, think about it, like, sometimes, like, I'll sit back and think about, like, people were so tense and so like high strung and like fighting about everything online.

And, like, you know, when I think about some of the shit like people used to like like riot over on the internet, like, if that happened to him, like, you guys, like, people were so deeply unwell.

Like, it's humiliating.

No, it's literally like we lived through the bubonic blade.

No, literally.

Like, by the way, wilds.

I literally had dinner after being quarantined in May.

I had dinner with my family outside.

We sat outside.

I remember listening.

We all referenced this on the toes.

We all walked.

We sat outside.

We had been quarantined for 60 days, not seeing another human.

We had a meal outside.

You would have thought.

We committed genocide the way people came for us.

And now in hindsight, you all look so stupid.

And I'm like humiliated for the people who did that.

But like, it was terrifying.

Like, people came.

And we weren't taking it lightly.

Like, Olivia was nine months pregnant.

Like, we were doing the most.

Like

the way people came for us, I was like, and now in hindsight, I'm like, oh, my God.

Like, people were, like, COVID was obviously like an illness, but it was also a mental illness.

The way, the way.

quarantine made people fucking nuts.

Nuts.

Nuts.

I completely agree.

Like, and now in hindsight, we realize how crazy it was.

But like, I'm fully, I'm waiting for my apology.

I think I'll be waiting quite a while.

Um, well, Stasi, I just love chatting with you.

I hate that this is over.

I know.

I mean, if there's anything else you want to chat about, like, we don't have to be done.

I mean, I can't like think off the top of my head, but I just love doing this with you.

You are welcome back anytime.

You know that.

Thank you.

If you liked what you heard here, Stasi's like a huge podcast.

By the way, I don't know if you've been, the last time you were on the show, you were pronouncing your book was Straight Up with Stasi.

Straight Up with Stasi has made kind of a triumphant return.

How does it feel?

You were one of the first podcasters, not like the first ever, but like in this space.

Honestly, it feels like I just like am new.

Really?

I do appreciate when people like you are like, give me that, that credit.

Yeah, you're an OG.

You guys are so amazing and so talented and so successful.

And I think like because I didn't have my podcast for two years, like I've, I feel like I'm just new and starting out again.

Like I'm starting this new business.

There's no way.

First of all, it's like riding a bike.

It is, but like it.

I forget that I have been doing it for a long time.

Yeah.

Also, podcasting has changed so much since the last time you did it.

100%.

I feel like when you were like really starting out, you would always go into a studio.

Like there was no podcasting from home.

I know.

But like COVID really like expedited, like everybody has like full fancy podcast setups.

You film in your house, right?

Yeah.

Like so much changed during that time because of COVID.

But no, you're like an OG podcaster straight up with Stasi.

How many happens?

You do one a week?

One a week, yeah.

And it's so good.

And I personally like the pop culture hour because I'm obsessed with Telestraker.

But check it out, straight up with Stasi.

You also have a Patreon, which we love.

Patreon over here.

It's patreon.com slash Stasi.

Oh, that's such a good link.

Yeah, right?

Straight into the Stasi is just so easy.

It's so easy.

How do you feel about not being the only famous Stasi?

And have you met the other famous Stasi?

No.

What's it called?

Stasi Baby?

Yes.

Well, she doesn't go by Stasi Baby anymore.

She doesn't?

No, she like changed all of her.

Doesn't she go by Stas?

Yes.

Yes.

Do you think that's because of me?

I like to think so.

I want to think it is too.

But like, she's like, well, there's already a Stasi, so I'm just going to.

Have you ever met?

No, I've never met her, but I get confused for her.

Yeah.

Like when I'm going in to like renew my car lease or whatever, like the guy at a dealership would be like, so you're famous.

And I think that he's a banner talking about banner members.

And he'll start being like, so Kylie Jenner.

I'm like,

that's not me.

That's not me.

You can just roll with it.

Maybe you'll get, you know, you'll cut the line or something.

Like, it is so annoying having another person.

Like, the way that I name my babies is like their name has to be like outside of the 5,000 list.

I don't want them to have to share a name with anyone.

And it's just, it's not.

Do you have a name for your baby oh yeah that's done it's done that's done how did you find it done um it was actually the last time i was in new york here it was like the day before i saw you for taylor's birthday we came i came up with it and did you find it like in a book or something or um it just kind of floated into your mind through a list we had we had cut there was a street that i saw oh that i'm like i like this name but we already knew someone who was named that so then we like changed it interestingly changed it so let me let me guess is it seventh avenue

seventh Avenue.

7th actually is a cool name.

It is actually a cool name.

But it's like a little too out there, I think.

Well, it reminds me of Harper 7.

It reminds me of 7 by Taylor Swift.

A beautiful song.

Wait, can you tell me how you keep getting tickets to Taylor Swift?

The way I've tried, I've gone through.

I'll tell you.

I've gone through my agency.

I've gone through everyone.

Well, let me tell you.

The first time I got a box in Nashville with like 20 of my friends, and we each paid what we would pay for like a regular ticket, and we all just ended up getting our own box.

I literally contacted like a salesperson for the Nissan Stadium.

Like I like went through just like the regular channels.

The second time I bought them on StubHub three hours before

it was still very pricey.

The third time a brand went and they a brand called tangle teaser they had purchased a box and filled it with influencers and content creators.

So that was that.

And I think I will be going one more time.

I'm not sure when.

What the fuck?

I know.

No, the thing is with the tailor tickets, like you can't cut any lines.

Like you just have to pay for it.

Well, no, that's fine.

I'm just like, I don't, I didn't want to just like have a regular seat i wanted to like i want to i want to purchase yep the best experience yes yes and i actually purchased the best experience on step hub okay that's i would say my best tickets so you're saying that when she when she's in la

i should day off yeah so like not the day before it's like no just get dressed like i was i knew i was gonna go no no and then as i'm doing my makeup we bought the tickets we were monitoring all day but what if you couldn't find the tickets and you got ready for nothing and like that's such a letdown Like, I would have found it.

Like, one thing about me, like, I would have found the tickets.

Can't you do it for me?

You'll give me credit card info.

For sure, as long as I can buy one for myself.

Like, sure.

No, real talk, that would be my payment to you.

By the way, done.

Come to California.

We are thinking, me and Margo, just depending on what happens with Jackie's, like, birth schedule, we are really hoping to be in L.A.

for the August shows.

Great.

For Taylor.

Yeah.

Great.

So maybe I'll see you there.

So maybe you literally will be there.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm hoping to be.

Let's work on that.

We'll coordinate.

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