Don't Yelly at Kelly: Monday, May 15th, 2023

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    Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

    Happy Monday.

    Hope everybody had a blessed weekend, a gorgeous Mother's Day, and hope everyone's doing great.

    Speaking of mothers, hey, mother.

    Hi.

    How you darn?

    I'm good, thank you.

    I did have a really great weekend.

    Fabulous.

    Great Mother's Day.

    Fabulous.

    It was a really just lovely.

    family-filled weekend.

    It was so important to celebrate the mothers.

    Yes, thank you.

    100%.

    You sound a little disingenuous.

    Do you not want to be celebrating?

    Oh, wow.

    Do you not want to be celebrating me?

    Not right now.

    Not right fucking now, bitch.

    Accusing me of not respecting mothers?

    I don't know.

    It was not disingenuine at all.

    Okay.

    Because I didn't feel like you were disingenuine yesterday when you were showing me.

    When I was showering you and our mother, the woman who gave us life, showering with love and adoration.

    What would make you think?

    I don't know.

    I don't know.

    It was just like the vibe I was getting.

    So toxic already.

    Oh my God.

    No, but we seriously had a great day.

    So let's not ruin it.

    You, what are you preaching to me?

    Preaching to me.

    You!

    I was continuing the celebration of mothers.

    Right.

    Well, we had a great, great Mother's Day and a great weekend.

    I spent a lot of time with my turdie.

    Yes, you did.

    And usually after a long weekend, especially because we weren't in studio Thursday, Friday, usually I like, if I don't see you over the weekend, like we have so much to catch chopped on on Monday and we really miss each other.

    Maybe the thing is that today we don't miss each other.

    Maybe we've like had enough of each other.

    I didn't feel that way.

    You sounded like you did.

    We've been in the studio for like 15 minutes and we were having a good time.

    We were giggling and cackling.

    And then you just kind of like came at me.

    And then the camera comes on and the attacks begin.

    You came at me with this like disingenuous like Mother's Day.

    Yeah.

    Salutation.

    Sure.

    Sure, Jax.

    God.

    Well, we do have a lot to catch up on.

    There wasn't a show on Friday because I was traveling.

    Let's catch up on so many things.

    First of all, speaking of Mother's Day, I don't know why you just can't say that.

    Maybe it's the way that you keep saying it that way.

    No, because when I kept seeing you guys yesterday, like when everybody kept showing up to the restaurant, I was like, happy Mother's Day.

    And now it's just, it's Mother's Day.

    Got it.

    That's why.

    But speaking of Mother's Day, since we both love and respect mothers, we decided to drop a little, little small, little surprise Mother's Day merch collection at toastmerch.com.

    We've got kids' clothes with the onesies.

    We've got mama's clothes with the crew necks.

    They're really cute and really sweet.

    Perfect for the mother in your life if you're an auntie, you know, whether it's blood or or spiritual.

    Yeah.

    So much for everyone at Toastmerch.com.

    So much for everyone.

    We've never done a surprise drop like that.

    Like no

    lead up.

    Just like, here's the collection.

    Go shop now.

    It's the cutest things

    for your little one.

    We have like infant onesies that go up to two years, 24 months.

    But then we also have t-shirts for the Todd lure in your life.

    2T, 3T, 14.

    I love the Todd lure in my life.

    Yeah, I was like an abbreviated.

    I'm like, that's not a word.

    I have so many toddlers in my life who I love.

    Yeah.

    So Terry a toddler?

    You know what?

    That's a great question.

    I think so.

    No,

    no.

    Or he's an infant.

    No way.

    I need to look up the exact age because sometimes I like will Google like infant cough, toddler cough.

    Like, well, which one is he?

    Baby cough.

    He really ain't an infant.

    And you know what?

    He ain't a toddler.

    No, he's not a toddler.

    You know what I think he is?

    Rolled.

    Rolled.

    One of one.

    Yeah.

    No, but sound off in the comments.

    Like, so he's one.

    Oh, he's like 15 months.

    Yeah.

    What is that?

    IDK.

    Yeah.

    I don't know.

    So there's that.

    But he could actually, it's, you know what?

    It's all making sense because he could fit into either the onesie or the t-shirt.

    Transitional.

    I buy him like 24 months.

    We have the onesie for that.

    Or I could get him two tea.

    That's 24 months.

    The toast.

    We've got a onesie for that.

    We've got a onesie for everything.

    And then we have the cutest mama merch for yourselves.

    Yourselves.

    I'm so excited to literally wear everything all at once.

    We have really cute designs for this merch.

    That bear.

    That bear, it's so cute.

    It really brings a bear.

    It brings a tear to even the most cynical of eyes.

    The bear, the podcasting bear, is on our Instagram.

    You could see the merch designs.

    And I'm just obsessed with him.

    Yeah, I know you are.

    Like, he's my new obsession.

    Obsessed.

    Obsessed beyond.

    And you know who loves him?

    Streisand.

    Streisand.

    I promise I didn't know he was Streisand.

    I didn't know.

    Now you know, though.

    So So there's no more excuses.

    The more you know.

    So we haven't done an episode since Thursday.

    And I will say our podcast only episode on Thursday might have been one of my favorites.

    It was like so next level, like more on it.

    It was so crazy.

    I didn't remember anything that was discussed until people were messaging me yesterday being like four.

    Yeah, right.

    Can you remind me like where four comes from?

    So it was just great.

    We were both like delirious because we recorded it Wednesday night.

    But it's been a while since we've seen you guys.

    Back in studio feels so good.

    And, you know, I've been traveling a lot these last three weeks.

    Like, I'm good now.

    My travels are done.

    And I'm just, like, back to Jackson Claude OG recipe in the studio.

    Yeah.

    And what's better than that?

    Same for me.

    Like, I've been here and there and everything.

    All over.

    And I'm ready to settle down.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    So I was in Frisco on Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for the ACM Awards Academy of Country Music.

    I vlogged the whole experience.

    So if you want to head over to patreon.com slash toast, it's already up.

    You can see

    that's why I feel fully recapped on it and debriefed because the vlog went up on Friday.

    Went up on Friday.

    It covers the gamut of the weekend and it was so good.

    And really, your vlogging skills are improving every day.

    You know, I was proud of this one.

    And I'm feeling my turnaround time lately for the vlogs has been like, if I don't, like, do something the second it needs to be done, it'll be months.

    100%.

    If I don't answer a text right when I get it, years.

    So that's why on both my plane ride home from Nashville and my plane ride home from Dallas, I edited the vlogs.

    So they've been really timely.

    Pat me on the back.

    Thank you.

    And the whole recap is there, but I just want to say me and Margo had the best time at the ACM Awards.

    The vlog vlog covers like red carpet glam, actual interviews on the red carpet, all of our interview

    footage, which we usually do, our live stream, which like lives on YouTube forever, which is so fun, was on the Amazon Fashion Snapchat.

    So for those who caught it, I hope you enjoyed it.

    It was so much fun.

    And I'm so happy to be home.

    We're happy to have you.

    But it was really fabulous.

    And I liked the way that I looked, you know, which is so.

    So risky, you know, it's such a gap, like 50-50, not only when you're just, you know, a human being putting on clothes, but also you're a human being wearing an up-do.

    And you're Claudia Oshray wearing updo.

    Updo.

    Claudia Ashray stepping out of her box.

    Updo Gate, which we spoke about at length leading up to the actual award shows.

    Updo Gate was kind of the whole chronicle, the whole journey was chronicled in the vlog.

    So you'll see the highs, the lows, you know, the hair cut.

    I cut my hair like with scissors.

    Well, I did it.

    Anna, the gorgeous Patreon member stylist did.

    Who loves Toast Radio.

    She loves Toast Radio.

    She said she loved it.

    It's one of her favorite episodes.

    And her husband loved it too.

    They listened to it on a long car ride.

    So we're just just like bringing couples together.

    Literally.

    So yeah, I won't spoil too much of the vlog, but it was just a great weekend.

    Thanks for giving me the day off on Friday, Jax.

    I was not fucking okay.

    And I don't even know when I would have vlogged because I don't know the plane.

    And I also think after this vlog, like I might end up on a no-fly list.

    Yeah, for sure.

    There's a breakdown in the airport bathroom.

    If anybody

    airplane bathroom.

    If anyone was standing outside the door, like you would have ended up

    a watch list.

    I was concerned that like my screaming was

    going to alert people.

    Imagine you were waiting for the bathroom and you heard a girl screaming in there, and she's by herself.

    And she's vlogging.

    But, like, you don't know, she's vlogging.

    So,

    she walks out.

    You've just heard her screaming.

    Like, maybe she got into a fight with someone and she's by herself.

    Yeah, no, it was just one of those days where like everything was bothering me.

    Like, even like the clothes on my back were like itching my skin.

    Like, I was just so irritable.

    And I just had to document it for the vlog because I'm such an authentic content creator.

    And that's what you guys saw.

    On the vlogs, you're going to see highs and lows.

    You're going to see breakdowns in airplane bathrooms, and you're just seeing glamorous curls on the red carpet.

    It's true.

    You can't have one without the other.

    And that's called being dynamic and being authentic.

    Authentic.

    I think you are extremely authentic.

    Thank you so much, Jackie.

    That was kind of your takeaway from the vlog from watching it.

    Yeah, I didn't feel like there was things that you weren't telling us or things that you were holding back.

    You didn't feel like there were any inauthentic moments.

    No, I didn't feel like you were putting on airs.

    Yeah.

    I felt like we were there with you.

    That's good.

    Yeah, I felt just like the satchel.

    Right.

    Just along for the ride.

    It was a satchel-filled weekend.

    It was.

    We got so much satch this weekend.

    So much satchel time.

    And I were so grateful.

    Oh, and then I got home on Friday and I went to Stasi Shorter's live show.

    You did.

    Busy.

    She's busy.

    I was so busy.

    Oh my God.

    I'm so tired.

    She is on tour doing like a live podcast live show with her husband and Taylor Strecker.

    So their show was in New York.

    I met so many toasters.

    It was fabulous.

    And it was so much fun.

    So I really just had like a crazy, busy weekend.

    You did.

    Crazy girl.

    And I watched Ted Lasso.

    I was watching it and I just like am not pulled enough to keep like I will I will keep watching it

    It's just like I'm not obsessed that like oh my god I have to go home and finish it No, it's not the type of show that like keeps you on your toes No, but like you just want to keep watching more and more because you love the characters I found this season to be like kind of womp womp and I've loved it in the past.

    I don't know what it I really I already said this on the show because I was saying like I don't know if the show has changed a little or like I've changed, but

    it's just not like doing for me what it used to do.

    It's certainly this season is not as good as seasons past, but it's still a great show that's like fun and easy to watch and doesn't give you a pit, you know?

    Yeah, yeah, but there's just like a lot of extra verbiage.

    There's a lot of also Nate.

    Nate, but at least he's like interesting.

    You never know what he's going to do.

    But like, I feel like the dialogue is getting really verbose.

    Wording.

    Yeah, with all their like jokes that they don't stop making.

    And it's like, it's not that funny.

    Like, I feel that.

    Like, some of honestly, like, Ted.

    Like, he's so.

    Yeah, yeah.

    He's just like, for something that could be a one-word answer, it's a word salad from him, like, like every time.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    I do like that they've brought in some of our like favorite characters and made them even bigger

    like staples, like Trent Krim the Independent.

    He's now like works for the team or whatever, he's like shadowing the team.

    Um, and he was like my me and Ben's like favorite character.

    Like, every time he would stand up and say Trent Krim the Independent, still he doesn't say Trent Krim the Independent, no, but is he still your favorite character?

    Yeah, you learn more about him, and he like develops a friendship with someone on the team, and like it's really sweet.

    Okay, cute, yeah, no, it's still good, yeah, but also like with Keely and

    Jack.

    No.

    Oh.

    Roy.

    Breaking up.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    There's more that happens.

    It's just wrong.

    I agree.

    It's like, why?

    So like, what are we watching for?

    What are we doing here?

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    And then I also started the new season of the other two, which is that show I've been telling you to watch.

    And they like, they skip three years in the future.

    I don't know why, because I think maybe I discovered the show.

    I think that a new season hasn't come out since before COVID.

    So they like skip over COVID, but they like do flashbacks because like Carrie was filming a movie.

    It was actually very funny, like COVID stuff.

    But I was like so confused.

    Okay.

    Yeah.

    I'm sorry.

    It didn't even say three years later.

    I'm sorry, you were confused.

    Me and Beth were just confused.

    I'm sorry.

    It's okay.

    I've been watching Working Moms 2.

    So good, right?

    It's good, but it's like a little dark.

    What part?

    What season are you on?

    Still first season.

    Oh, like.

    It's real, Jax.

    It's real.

    It is real, but like, there's, it's a little, like, I expect it to be a little more like lighthearted.

    And they're just, it's like, like, Jenny is like,

    oh, that Jenny.

    That storyline.

    By the way, she goes away for a while.

    Okay.

    And then

    Kate like takes a job in Montreal.

    She's running back and forth.

    Well, she just had her first day and she already flew home to like be with her son in the hospital.

    And it was just like dark.

    And then Anne.

    Anne is the best.

    Oh, yeah.

    I think she's probably my favorite character, but like she was pregnant and like then she didn't want another kid.

    Oh, yeah.

    And it's just like.

    Yeah, I will say I forgot about that because there's like so many people.

    And then of course crazy pants.

    Frankie.

    Obsessed.

    Sold her house.

    Obsessed.

    No, I can't.

    But yeah, she stabilizes.

    Like she becomes like the most stable.

    Like I forgot that the early seasons of the show, I guess they are like kind of crazy because it does level out and just become like a show about working moms, you know?

    Yeah.

    Yeah, but I forgot about crazy ass pants, Zoe.

    Jenny.

    Whatever.

    Her kid's name is Zoe.

    She hates her kid.

    Yeah, yeah.

    So I don't know.

    It's...

    Stick with it, though.

    I will.

    I will.

    It's so, it's like so cute.

    And I think at like certain points, once it levels out, like, you'll find it extremely relatable.

    There are moments, like, there are certain like niche things

    that

    you could only like really

    never have appreciated, like, until I was a mom.

    Um, so I enjoy that, but I'm just like, these storylines, man.

    Like, darkness.

    Darkness.

    Okay, that's such a fair criticism.

    For a show, it's like a lighthearted comedy.

    Totally.

    Right, right.

    So it was a great weekend.

    It's going to be a great episode.

    There's lots to discuss.

    Let's talk about, you know,

    the attempted cancellation of Miss Kelly Clarkson.

    We'll, we'll get into it in depth.

    Not on my watch.

    But just know, like a little teaser for what's about to come.

    Like, we are not here for it.

    Not on my watch.

    What we're not going to do is bring down America's sweetheart, the loveliest woman in daytime.

    That's what we're not going to do.

    Via the actions of someone else completely.

    Yeah.

    By proxy.

    But we keep putting Kelly's face in the article.

    And Kelly's name in the headline.

    Wrong.

    We're going to talk about it.

    We're going to talk about lots of going on in the Taylor Schwift universe this weekend.

    Yeah.

    It's like every day there's just like something to talk about with Taylor.

    And it's like, I just can't tell you how much joy that brings me.

    Like, I will not tire.

    There was like definitely like a year, maybe like a few months ago where like, not a year.

    There was like a few months, like maybe a year ago, where we like could not stop talking about the Kardashians.

    Yes.

    It comes and goes with celebrities.

    Like we're in our Taylor press era and I couldn't be happier.

    And this week, you know, what's been so interesting, especially now that she's hitting up the New England, you know, Eastern Seaborg, between every weekend, she's in New York and she's hitting up the fabulous spots.

    She's loving a member's club.

    She's gone to Costa Tripriani.

    She's gone to Zerobond.

    I have plans every night this week because I will see Taylor.

    Like, I'm going to Carbone.

    Like, I'm going to see Taylor.

    You think that's where she'll go?

    I don't know.

    Maybe she'll go back to the clubs.

    Yeah, I know.

    I know.

    I just, I got to go.

    You kind of just need to like get dressed and stay on alert and then just like have people like DM you tips.

    I honestly, you just described like the worst night of my life.

    Like, yeah, Get dressed and stay on alert.

    Like no, I'd rather

    just like let you know if she gets a sighting so you can run down.

    Because like an ideal night for me is to get undressed and stay on alert, you know, and like with my eyes closed.

    But for tailored?

    For tailored, I would do it.

    I'm going out every night this week for tailored.

    What are you doing?

    I just got plans, you know?

    Yeah.

    Cool.

    Well, thanks for the invite.

    I couldn't make it, but I would have loved to be there.

    Okay, like, I don't really have that many plans.

    I have like one night.

    I have like one dinner and I'm just like hoping that she'll be there.

    What is it?

    Just dinner.

    You can't say.

    Well,

    was that Carbone?

    Yeah.

    You're hoping she'll be at the restaurant, not like at your dinner table.

    I know she won't be at my table.

    Maybe we're invited to an event that you think she might go to.

    Okay, wait.

    Wait, wait, wait.

    I just thought of something.

    The person who I'm having dinner with is actually like a close personal friend of Taylor Swift.

    Who?

    Oh.

    Oh, yeah.

    So if she ate, let's just say, let's just say she was at the restaurant, like, she would come up to my table.

    100%.

    But like that person might also be like meeting up in New York if they're both in New York.

    Oh, wait, wait.

    Like that person might know what maybe I should have dinner with this person every night of the week.

    Yeah.

    Hmm.

    Makes you think.

    Yeah, get to work.

    Stay alert.

    Stay alert and get dressed.

    Get dressed.

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    Are you ready for our first story?

    No, actually, I'm not.

    You're not.

    I just don't feel like contributing to this, you know, toxic narrative around Kelly Clarkson.

    It's actually not gonna be our first story because that's just, I don't wanna give it that air.

    Like, I want to start with

    the most important story.

    I agree.

    I would say the big story of this morning are the Sports Illustrated cover models dropped.

    Four cover girls we have.

    Martha Stewart at 81 becomes the oldest woman to cover Sports Illustrated.

    Megan Fox, Brooks Nader, and Kim Petrus each have their own cover.

    So I have to say, I like I'm guffawed that Martha Stewart's 81.

    Like she, you know, she has like the body, her body's amazing, and she looks like an older woman.

    She does not look 81.

    Yeah.

    She really looked so fabulous.

    Like they really styled her to perfection, just like rich older woman.

    She has like big sunglasses and diamonds in the water.

    It's very on-brand for Martha.

    I really love this selection.

    It never would have even crossed my mind, honestly.

    No.

    But Martha's such a queen.

    Like name a woman who has a better reputation.

    Name a woman who's gone to prison who has a better reputation than Martha Stewart.

    I'll wait.

    I don't think I can.

    Right.

    I don't think I can.

    She's an inspiration.

    She is.

    She is.

    Looking so great.

    I love her the cover photo the best for her.

    Me too.

    But I also love the one when she's in the water with like this big, obviously like a million dollar necklace.

    Yeah, but the ones without the glasses I like better.

    Oh, okay.

    She looks fabulous.

    And I'm here for it.

    Now, how do you feel about four cover girls?

    This is like a new thing they do.

    It's not my favorite thing that they're doing.

    No, it's fan.

    Like everyone's a winner.

    I make a choice.

    Yeah, no, I do long for the days.

    I don't know if you have people from becoming like the sports illustrated girly who like then a career is catapulted.

    Cause also it's like Brooks Nader is the only like model, like model who by trade, by trade.

    Everyone else is a celebrity, yeah.

    So it's like it's not gonna do anything crazy for their careers, it's just like cool.

    Yeah, I do long for the days.

    Like there were a few years where like they would select an not unknown, but like a very much on the rise.

    We hadn't heard of them, but like if you were a modeling scout, you might have.

    Where they would choose one girl and it would like change the trajectory of the girl's life.

    Um, that's how we got Kate Upton, that's how that's how we got Hannah Davis Jeter.

    There was like, you know, it was really like a big honor and it would change your life.

    And then slowly, like, then they they had that Chrissy Tegan, Nina Agdow.

    They had three girls on the cold cover.

    But that was so cool.

    It was good.

    And now it's, it gives like, you know, participation energy.

    And it's not going to change the life of one girl and make that girl like the next big it model.

    Um, I love all these covers, so like, I don't have a problem with any of these participants.

    But I do, like, I liked when they would just like kind of like put their, you know, like how the queen would knight someone, they would just knight, like, you're the next big thing.

    And it would be exciting to see who they chose.

    Yeah.

    I still enjoy all their content.

    and they really do a good job of like choosing people from the internet.

    They don't like shy away from like Instagram model-y energy.

    Um,

    but yeah, I do, I do long for those days.

    Yeah, it was a cool thing.

    Yeah.

    And this is a different cool thing.

    Martha Stewart on the cover of the sports sales show.

    She's fabulous.

    It's very cool.

    Like Kim was on the cover last year.

    Yeah.

    And also then all these covers become so unmemorable.

    It's like we remember all those covers probably up until Hannah Jeter.

    No, Kate, remember when Kate Upton got three covers?

    Yep.

    But like they were so like crazy and sexy.

    And like her tits were just, not to be, like, disgusting, but like, they were just like voluptuous.

    And she was here.

    Like, she was really out here representing the big titty committee.

    And like, and then Hannah Jeter wear her bathing suit like was almost off of her vagina.

    Like they are memorable.

    And I remember the three girls.

    And I've definitely forgotten.

    Some are memorable, but I've forgotten a lot.

    I don't even remember what Kim's looked like.

    Yeah, it looks like her Instagram.

    Ever since we've had a hodgepodge mania over at Sports Illustrated covers, I can't think of the last iconic one that I've seen.

    But I will say I think Megan Fox's

    is the best of this year.

    Yeah.

    She looks insane.

    I love the bathing suit or outfit.

    Whatever it is.

    I think she looks great.

    Yeah, no, there's, I don't have a critique of any of the selects or any of the photos.

    But it does seem like a little

    meh.

    Yeah.

    You know?

    Yeah.

    But like, if they are going to do four,

    it's a great four.

    Great four, four, but let's like the four.

    But I'm team one.

    I'm team one as well.

    But if I have to play on team four, okay, great.

    Yeah, I want to be like GBT, make a prediction.

    Okay.

    Actually, no, that's a bad prediction.

    I take it back.

    Because I was going to say, like, honestly, Sierra from Summerhouse is like in her modeling era.

    Like, she should be next year.

    But she just signed a thing with Victoria's Secret.

    That's why it was like in my brain.

    And she would never, she can't do both.

    Got it.

    I also am curious to see who's going to be on the inside of the magazine.

    Anyway.

    Who the rookies are for next year?

    Yeah.

    And I don't think they're going to go back to one.

    No, no, no.

    If anything, there'll be six.

    There'll be six.

    Because for a while, it was like three.

    Yeah.

    Then four.

    And you know what happens after four?

    What?

    Five.

    Mind-blowing.

    I know.

    Yeah.

    I told you four is a tricky number.

    I know.

    I know.

    But it's when they chose, and it's the one they got, and it's one we got.

    And they all look great.

    Should have been us, but you know, how frightening would that be?

    Four frightening.

    Yeah.

    yeah trust and believe nobody needs to see that yeah and then I wonder or does everybody need to see that no I think they're good yeah if they shot me from like the breasts up I would do it yeah I want to see the inside of like the rest I'm not gonna get the magazine and I also wonder like how sales are when it's four do they actually care who sells the most or it's just like I totally forgot that this was like a print initiative

    because also I just I now I'm realizing I've been seeing some people people post sports Illustrated, like announcements all year long.

    Yeah.

    And I never know, like, when the cover is coming.

    Right, no, because I follow Melissa Wood, and she was a rookie or something.

    She's included this year.

    So I've been like following her journey for like literally months.

    I follow Nicole Williams English from Wags.

    She's a model and she was pregnant this year and she did Sports Illustrated pregnant.

    And the pictures were awesome.

    It didn't dawn on me that like, oh, when we're waiting for the cover.

    Right, right, right.

    Because when there's, it's like a little bit of a letdown when there's like so much hoopla all year.

    So it's like, it's not this big reveal.

    And there's four.

    And then also you have the people posting their old pictures.

    So I'm like, what's new?

    This is current.

    Like, but here it is.

    That's like a storyline on the other two.

    So he gets like one movie.

    Okay.

    And he posts happy one month since Night Nurse came out.

    Literally.

    And he has like all these drafts scheduled to like the one year anniversary.

    And he's like losing followers like mad.

    And his mom literally has to sit him down and be like, you have to stop posting.

    Like for all the cast mates, happy birthday, Beanie Feltine.

    Love working with you on Night Nurse.

    That's so funny.

    Molly Shannon sits him down and is like, you have to make me a promise.

    Like you, she gives him $100,000 because he's being blackmailed.

    She's like, I'll give you this money, but you had to stop posting about night nurse.

    And that's like, that's, it's so real.

    That's what people do who have like one thing.

    And they wish every cast man a happy birthday or somebody gets married and they're like, congratulations, Benny Feltstein.

    Loved working with you on Night Nurse.

    Yeah.

    It's so funny.

    That is really funny.

    You watch his followers like drop every time he posts.

    It's so funny.

    Well, congrats to all the models and celebrities.

    And the grads.

    And the grads.

    They're still graduating.

    They are.

    That they are.

    What are your thoughts on like college graduation weekends being over Mother's Day?

    I mean, I can understand there's only so many weekends and all the colleges have to split them.

    But as a mother now, like it's wrong.

    But it's also like...

    You're celebrating your kid.

    It forces the family to be together.

    To be together.

    It's actually like, I was thinking about that this weekend because I saw people, I followed Jessica Seinfeld and she was out at Duke with her daughter celebrating.

    There's two birds, one stone.

    Yeah, I was like, oh, that's interesting that, you know, graduation is on Mother's Day, but is it so bad the family's all together?

    Taking a trip to North Carolina or wherever it is.

    As long as the ceremony is not on Sunday.

    As long as the ceremony is not on Sunday, yes.

    Let's talk about worse human experiences than sitting through the calling of the names.

    Sitting through a graduation period.

    Unless it's like a middle school, that seems like cute to me.

    Oh, adsorby.

    Adsorbo.

    I feel like even high school, I feel like just college graduations, because like your family hasn't been around for any of it, it's like, where are we?

    Who are these people?

    Yeah.

    Like, what is it?

    And you get like four four tickets and like everyone's grandma, aunts, uncles, and third cousin comes in and like waits outside.

    Yeah.

    No, for your graduation was far and away the worst one because Olivia, Margo, and I all went to NYU and they do it by school.

    So it's like, it's much smaller.

    And at least like, we don't have to travel anywhere.

    Like, it was just like a torturous afternoon.

    Yours was a torturous weekend.

    And the actual graduation was like thousands and thousands of people.

    It was like a real college graduation.

    For sure, but it's actually a small school.

    Compared to, yes, University of Michigan, but like compared to NYU, it's enormous.

    Because

    it would be done by school in NYU.

    Like, we went to the Beacon Theater.

    Beacon Theater only seats like a thousand people.

    Okay.

    Your thing was in like a massive,

    I think it was at the lawn, you know?

    No, it was in

    like the sports center.

    It was fucking huge.

    And did they call the names?

    Yeah, they called the names.

    They called the names.

    So we waited till mine and then we.

    And God forbid, you know, our name was spelled Ashri.

    No, it's Oshri with an O.

    At least it's not Zoshri, okay?

    It might as well have been, honestly, to wait till O.

    I thank God you weren't married.

    Wine rub.

    Oh, my God.

    But it was a fun weekend.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    We got lit.

    Yeah, I agree.

    The ceremony is just.

    Dreadful.

    Dreadful.

    Never ending.

    Dreadful.

    I'm so glad we're like out of that phase of our lives.

    Like we're all graduated from college.

    Yeah.

    Well, happy, happy graduation, grads.

    Yeah, I hope you enjoy your ceremonies.

    Now that we've ruined it.

    Are you ready for our next story?

    No, because I will not participate in the tearing down of a successful woman.

    So over the weekend.

    Well, not today, I won't.

    Over the weekend, or was it?

    Yeah, like Friday.

    Friday, an article dropped that the Kelly Clarkson show is a traumatizing workplace run by monster.

    One monster.

    Right.

    And so when you read that headline, who would you assume is the monster at the top of the Kelly Clarkson show?

    Who would you assume?

    Knowing not what you know about Kelly?

    Kelly.

    Right.

    And also, who would you assume given like everything we've learned about some problematic daytime talk show hosts over the last few years?

    Right.

    So I was actually thinking last night, like, I will go back and watch our dissection of the Ellen report and compare it to our dissection of the Kelly report.

    But the thing is, like, Ellen being like a mean person is like the most believable narrative.

    Kelly being evil is quite literally unbelievable.

    Kelly would have to walk up to me and punch me in the face.

    Even then, I'd be like, even though I'd say,

    it was involuntary spasm.

    No, even then, I would say, I probably needed it.

    Yeah.

    No, like, for real.

    But anyways, Rolling Stone, like, dropped an expose about the Kelly Clarkson show.

    It's toxic behind the scenes staffers say.

    They're overworked and underpaid.

    According to 11 current and former employees, the talk show host is fantastic, but a number of the show's producers make employees' lives hell.

    So they reiterate a few times throughout the article that

    the staffers think that Kelly has no idea about like...

    people being unhappy in her workplace, but that there is like a top producer who's just known for making the workplace miserable.

    She's worked on other shows and done this, like, and the staffers are sometimes like crying on the stairwell or on the roof or something.

    On the roof, right?

    They said on the roof.

    I did read the stairwell, but perhaps the roof as well.

    There are only so many places that you can get.

    Oh, wait, I remember going up on the roof of the stage to cry, being like, oh my gosh, what am I doing?

    Why am I putting myself through this?

    I just want to say, for that particular anecdote, they didn't share what sent her to the roof to cry.

    So there's just like a lot of

    broad, sweeping accusations.

    I didn't get a lot of in like exact instances of what

    the crimes were.

    When you compare it to Ellen, there were like so many instances of like the exact, she made fun of my nail polish, like people sharing the anecdotes with so many details.

    Yeah.

    So Kelly.

    And I just don't buy it.

    Kelly has an executive producer whose name is Alex Dutta.

    And the staffers are like kind of attributing all of it to her while Kelly's face is on the article and her name is in the headline.

    Right.

    And God forbid they put Alex Dutta in the headline.

    They said, former employees say the toxic behavior behind the scenes starts with Dutta, who shields Clarkson from what staffers say they're enduring because of the climate Dutta created.

    The former employee says, quote, I think Dutta's a monster.

    I have a really hard to like read this article, Dutta.

    I have a friend who's an executive producer who warned me about taking this job, but apparently she has done this on every show that she's worked on.

    So it sounds like the article is more an analysis on the Dutta workplace as opposed to the Clarkson workplace.

    And I don't appreciate, you know, anyone using Kelly's good name to boost their article.

    I don't.

    No, I don't.

    But here's some more quotes because this former employee says, Kelly is fantastic.

    She's a person who never treats anyone with anything but dignity and is incredibly appreciative.

    I would be shocked if she knew.

    I'd be floored if she knew the staff wasn't getting paid for two weeks of Christmas hiatus.

    Oh, damn.

    The Kelly that I interacted with and everyone knows would probably be aghast to learn that.

    Yeah.

    One former employee says they recently quit working at the show because a producer who reports to Dutta yelled and cursed at them multiple times on stage.

    They say they developed so much anxiety from the the way they were treated at work that they would regularly vomit and exhibit physical signs of sickness.

    They say the job deteriorated my mental health.

    Well, it's good that she quit.

    It's not okay.

    But like

    a second former employee says they took a leave of absence because their mental health was also suffering.

    They say they were bullied and intimidated by producers who went out of their way to make staffers feel scared to ask questions and get their work done.

    According to the staffer, this prompted them to take a month away from the job and see a psychiatrist for the first time in their life because they truly couldn't handle it mentally.

    Then you you also have to think about like what work they're doing at the Kelly Clarkson show.

    It seems like they're in the Marines with

    the yelling and the screaming.

    And it's like, girl, we're just singing in the middle of the day.

    We're kellaokeing our way to final.

    In the middle of the day, like stop yelling.

    Yeah, no.

    People need to calm down.

    I think like everyone really needs to like constantly be reminding themselves, no matter what it is, like it's not that deep.

    Like why are you yelling?

    Like why is this such a high-pressure work environment?

    Right.

    This is a joyful daytime talk show hosted by America's sweetheart.

    Like, calm down, producers.

    Calm down, that's such a good point.

    And why are you yelling?

    Like, I'm sure there's a lot of work that goes into a show and so much behind the scenes.

    But, like, Kelly gets on and she lights up and a conversation takes place.

    Like, let the chips fall where they're meant.

    You don't need to, like, micromanage Kelly.

    Micromanage people and like yell at them on their fucking power trip about your little singing show.

    No, that's the thing with like human nature, but also I think people who like work in entertainment, it's like the first taste of power like they turn into monsters well that's kind of people in general yeah but I also think that like what they think that they're doing on these shows is

    so important and like we have to make this this it's like everyone just calm down yeah the show will go on the show yeah because Kelly's a pro right and as long as we have Kelly like we need not be yelling We need not be yelling.

    Yelly Clarkson.

    No.

    So I feel bad for Kelly.

    I woke up on Saturday.

    She released a statement.

    She put out like some text on font.

    right and said like that she had no idea and obviously like that she doesn't stand for any of this of course we knew that she didn't we didn't think that she did I never once would think oh yeah this is like a Kelly approved environment no

    but I just I you know what I really I don't take lightly the usage of Kelly's name and likeness to generate clicks for this story.

    But I also feel like it's the only way for these people to be heard.

    To be heard, because they did lodge tons of complaints with HR that didn't change the tone of the workplace.

    And like, how does that happen?

    Are HR agencies like in place so things like this don't happen?

    And NBC, this is like the most corporate ass shit.

    Like you can't, you know, everything is on record.

    What's the point?

    Right.

    Like HR, like do your, literally do your job.

    Yeah.

    So I guess if there was an article that came out, like Alex

    Dutta is a mean boss, we'd be like, who fucking?

    We wouldn't make it to the fast five.

    So they have to use Kelly's name and invisibility.

    I get it, but I don't appreciate it.

    No, I don't appreciate it either.

    Because I will not, I will not join this bandwagon.

    Like I will not, because people who just read this article, just read this headline, like move on with their lives and then see it posted everywhere else.

    It gets picked up.

    It was a Rolling Stone exclusive, but it gets picked up everywhere.

    We'll just now move forward like thinking Kelly Clarkson is a mean woman.

    Yeah.

    And I don't take that lightly.

    And I know that that's not true.

    Same.

    I just know it in my bones.

    I know what it is.

    And also, like, they're literally saying that she's not.

    And you know what?

    They're literally saying in the article, Kelly is the nicest, sweetest person.

    She's exactly who you think she is.

    She has no idea this is going on.

    But let me tell you something.

    Like, I love Kelly.

    And, like, I didn't even read the article.

    Like, no one reads the article.

    No, I read the article so that I could know.

    So I could have

    so that I could have Kelly's back.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Like, I read it, ready to defend Kelly.

    We just wrote, defending.

    And thankfully, there was nothing in there that made me question my stanhood, even the smallest, but if anything, we stand harder than we did before because they're saying she's an amazing person.

    And this is a transitional time for Kelly.

    We reported last week her show is permanently moving to 30 Rock in New York.

    And I think it's a great time to shake things up, shake it up Chicago, get rid of Alex, hire us,

    and we'll get that place running like a well-oiled machine.

    For sure, but I also feel like this Alex woman, I mean, she's not a public figure.

    She didn't respond to their questions for comment, but like,

    if Kelly's talking to all her producers, like, it's a conversation, like what the fuck's going on?

    Like she might be like, these people were literally so terrible at the top.

    They couldn't get like one plus one equals sock done.

    Like someone has to move and shake them.

    Right.

    Give her a chance.

    Like I would, I would like to hear her side of the story.

    I would like to too, but it also sounds like this is just like, this is her M.O.

    and perhaps why she's so successful that she got this job and she's done this at other places.

    It's like her thing.

    Yeah.

    Like she's like a wench monster.

    Yeah.

    Sometimes it takes a wench monster.

    To get a show, all the Emmys and all the success and accolades that Kelly has had thus far.

    yeah but for me i'm just like nope kelly's the reason for the season obviously because there are some shows that are like it feels more like um ensemble you know like

    but this is like this show is a success because of kelly's heart and soul agree and voice and i would argue that

    So much of the success of Kelly's show has to do with their presence on social media.

    Like whoever's running that department is clearly like a young, like with it person.

    They absolutely crush it.

    You should hear from that person.

    They're the reason why like Kelly's so relevant on TikTok now, why people like flock to her covers and like her, the videos of her like covering her Kelly Oakie go so viral.

    I want to hear from that person because they work for the workplace, but they're very good at their job.

    What's their experience been like?

    I would love to hear from them as well.

    I'll find them on LinkedIn.

    Care to comment for the toast?

    Do it.

    I've done it already.

    It's been done.

    If you know the person who does Kelly social, reach out to us.

    We'll keep it private.

    We're just curious.

    Yeah.

    We're just nosy.

    Yeah, we are curious.

    We have to get to the bottom of this in order to clear our girl's name.

    Right.

    You're not going to drag her through the mud and we're going to sit back and not ask questions.

    Right.

    Leave Kelly alone.

    Yeah.

    I just like can't believe she had to like wake up and post that.

    I know she's like at a really unique place in her life where she's so unbelievably successful and famous and she's never had to post like a words note app like statement screenshot.

    And I hate that we've gotten to this place.

    Yeah.

    And I think it's it's more of a statement on society that we got to a place where Kelly Clarkson had to do that and act at such like a lowbrow like disgusting level of behavior um it's just it's it's it's a stunning indictment on the culture it is it is it is

    oh are you ready for our next story yeah Taylor Swift puts a pause on bad blood to tell a security guard to lay off a fan at a Philadelphia show.

    Well, actually, I think the whole point of why the story went so viral is that she didn't pause.

    Because baby, now we got bad blood.

    Hey, you know, we used to get mad love.

    Hey, stop.

    She wasn't doing anything.

    She literally didn't stop.

    She didn't pause.

    So Taylor's going viral.

    She goes viral every weekend for some cute moment or this or that at the show.

    She gave the hat to bejeweled.

    Yeah.

    Yep.

    Oh, and by the way, we got more information because you and I were talking about like, what does it mean if he like used her choreography, she used his choreography?

    Like, and

    he was making a lot of TikToks this weekend saying, you know, as a part of, you know, him using her dance, he got free tickets.

    But he also said that they had Taylor Nation, which is Taylor's management company, had reached out to him before the Eris tour began and asked for his approval to use his choreography, to which he said emphatically yes.

    That's very sweet.

    Yeah.

    So they, you know, crossed all their I's and doubted all their T's.

    Totally.

    Crossed all their T.

    Crossed all their T's and dotted all their I's.

    Yeah.

    So she went viral this weekend because she was performing Bad Blood and she saw something off stage, I guess, what a fan was being.

    Like like harassed yeah just getting in trouble with the security guard and taylor was like seeing the situation and seeing that the fan did nothing right she did nothing wrong right and um by the way that was a perfect um reenactment so so like she literally is talking to the security guard yelling at him in the middle of bad blood in between the lyrics and then the security guard was escorted out and then the girl spoke out what did she say she let everyone know that of course taylor gives her her tickets for the following night which was last night to relive the experience because it was ruined and she just said like we were just like living living like we were jumping and screaming and dancing and we were touching like the barricade and like every time we would come within an inch like this guy was just like he had it like out for us and was just like harassing us like we were just being joyful and lovely and everyone around us was like what the fuck like he just had it out for us and then he was being a stickler he was being a stickler like for nothing for yeah and she was like shook it when taylor noticed you know like there's it's crazy 70 000 people in a stadium I mean, this weekend was like so crazy for Taylor.

    She did three shows, which some weekends she does two.

    She did three in Philly.

    Obviously, Pennsylvania is her home state.

    So like maybe there's more fanfare for her there.

    And each night, there was like between 10 and 20,000 people standing outside the stadium just listening.

    That's crazy.

    That is crazy.

    She probably could have done like 10 shows.

    I read somewhere, I don't know if this is true, like if she actually met the demand for every single person who wanted a ticket, she would have had to do 900 stadium shows.

    That's crazy.

    That's crazy.

    But Philly in particular this weekend was nuts.

    I think that's also just because Philly's like a little nuts, you know, grease the polls.

    Yeah, no, and they like

    hard for something that they're passionate about.

    It's true, they do.

    They feel strongly about their passions and passionately about their passions.

    Right.

    And they take their passion projects seriously, which is something we relate to.

    Right.

    On a deep level.

    Right.

    So it was like a

    great, it wound up being a good moment for Taylor, but you can actually see she was like pissed.

    And I felt like it like threw her.

    It would have thrown me like to see to like be like, and I don't think she thought.

    I mean, everything she does in every show, like literally every burp, like goes viral.

    But it's become, it's not just going viral in the Swift universe.

    Like Like, it's national news.

    And I think it's national news because the way she did it was like low-key funny.

    Like, she's so professional.

    Like, she did not stop the song, but she was like, she stayed on beat.

    She likes the beat.

    And now it's become, you know, it used to be mad love.

    Hey, stop.

    She wasn't doing anything.

    Like, it was musical.

    Yeah, it was.

    It had a nice ring to it.

    It did.

    I wonder if people now at the following shows are going to start singing.

    There are certain things in the Swifty community where like

    if you're in the know, like when she sings delicate, at a certain point everybody you know chants one two three let's go bitch what is that oh it's I've seen some captions it was very my caption someone else too someone else in your group it was a very organic thing I don't know how it exactly started I think somebody just filmed a video of themselves at the reputation concert and she was like is it cool that I said all that is it because you know that it's delicate and the guy was just like one two three let's go bitch and then it started to spread so much that people just started saying it themselves and now it's like at the concert at at that point in delicate you just say it in bad blood it's just become a thing where she's like band-aids don't fix bullet holes you say sorry just for show if you live like that you live with ghosts and then she did a remix um with kendrick lamar and so everybody always sings you forgive you forget but you never let it go out to the whole crowd now it's just like a thing people do

    there's just like and now it's going to become a thing where she's like, baby, now we got bad blood.

    Stop, she wasn't doing anything.

    Yeah.

    I'm calling it.

    People are going to start doing that.

    They should.

    100%.

    It's hilarious.

    They should.

    But also, Taylor's making, just, she's all over the headlines.

    She was with Matt Healy in New York all weekend.

    Like, these two are dating.

    It's not AI generated.

    They're dating.

    Go with it.

    And he was at the shows.

    He was sitting in a suite, actually, with her parents.

    You know, there's like that VIP tent on the floor.

    Jennifer Lawrence was there this weekend.

    Nicole Kidman.

    Nicole Kidman, Keith Urban.

    Gigi, I think, went again.

    Bo Burnham was there, just, you know, fueling even more rumors that he's dating Phoebe Bridgers.

    Blake Lively and the kids.

    So it was like a star-studded affair.

    Got it.

    And he was not in the 10, he was in a suite.

    Yeah.

    Oh, that was my point.

    Yeah, he went up to a suite.

    Maybe he wanted to sit down.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    And her mom was there too.

    And, you know, so many good songs came out of this weekend.

    I was particularly crushed.

    Forever and always.

    That's like one of my favorites.

    But, you know, I love Forever and Always, but I really love Forever and Always, the piano version.

    And with the secret song, she does one guitar and one piano.

    And I think she did Forever and Always on the guitar, which I would have loved the piano version, but whatever.

    I wasn't even there.

    Weren't even there.

    She did Gold Rush, which there were a couple songs that I had

    that people could have guessed.

    Gold Rush was one of them with my Eagles t-shirt hanging from your door.

    And people were never sure if she meant Eagles football team or Eagles the band, but this pretty much confirmed she meant football team.

    And yesterday was Mother's Day.

    And you know, Taylor is obsessed with her mom.

    And she wrote the best date for her mom.

    And she's saying, she's saying it, and she cried.

    And like, honestly, I got like choked up.

    Oh, my God.

    I haven't seen the video.

    You'll get choked up, too.

    I would get so choked up.

    Especially yesterday was the best day.

    I know.

    It's such a great Mother's Day song, but it's too, it's too good.

    It's too raw when she got choked up when she was like, daddy's smart.

    Oh no.

    And you're the, why can't I remember it?

    You're the prettiest lady in the whole wide world.

    It was so freaking cute.

    And, you know, she like loves her mom and like it was just.

    That's really cute.

    I'm sure there were a lot of mothers and daughters there together.

    Like Bethany and her daughter went.

    Yes, Bethany was making so much content.

    She enjoyed herself.

    I'm glad.

    Which is like hard for her these days.

    She has to criticize everything, but she didn't have anything bad to say.

    Oh, Brian, the points guy, was at the show on

    Saturday, hard launching his new boyfriend.

    I don't know if everybody saw it on Instagram.

    I was shook.

    I was like, okay, we're just hard launching.

    And he was like, what does that mean?

    Everyone's saying it to me.

    I'm like, oh, God, I'll call you later.

    And he was, I spoke to him yesterday.

    He was like, I went deaf.

    Like, he, and I guess like when we were in the suite, like we missed like maybe a lot of the noise.

    He was like, there was one point after champagne problems where like everyone was cheering.

    He was like, I thought my eardrum was going to burst.

    He was like, I was plugging my ears.

    It was the craziest thing.

    And Brian was just like, it was so crazy to see someone have like 60,000 people in the palm of their hands.

    He was like, if she had said, everyone, turn to the person next to you and kill them, like they would have.

    That's like Kingsman.

    Yeah.

    He was like, it was so crazy.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    Well, great weekend for Taylor.

    Great weekend for everyone.

    For mothers.

    For everyone.

    I agree.

    It was a good weekend.

    I feel like karmically.

    Karmically.

    For everyone.

    Except for these next two people who you're going to

    explain for us.

    In the story, that is numbered number four.

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    Next story.

    Jeremy Allen White's wife, Addison Timlin, files for divorce after more than three years of marriage.

    Now, I just want to say, I've never heard of either of these people until this morning.

    But Claudia tells me this is a big deal for people who have.

    It's a very niche story, but like, if you care, you care.

    Let me tell you why.

    And those are some of the best stories.

    Yes.

    Okay.

    The try guys.

    Exactly.

    It's giving try guys.

    For anyone who's watched Shameless, Jeremy Allen White is like the older brother.

    He's so hot.

    Like if you watch a show, like you're just in love with him, okay?

    Okay.

    But like in a very, you know, tortured artist kind of way.

    And everyone was just kind of like, who's Jeremy Allen gonna like date?

    You know, and then like a few years ago, it was like, oh, he's actually gonna marry this girl.

    They have a baby.

    And it's like, it's not that exciting.

    They're very private.

    And it's like, you know, hearts were breaking everywhere when Jeremy Allen White announced this.

    But, you know, people were into it.

    They have like a very artsy life.

    They're always like taking artsy photos and they're very private, but they give people a little bit.

    And people started to stand.

    It was really sweet.

    They just like had a baby, fell in love, and like he wasn't going to, you know, play the Hollywood dating game.

    And we were crushed, but we were happy for him.

    And then yesterday, his wife posted on Instagram for Mother's Day like talking about being a single mom and we're like wait what you're married no you're not he commented like supportive you know but they're not together anymore they're not together anymore it was a very hard launch of a divorce she filed for a divorce people has confirmed she filed on Thursday according to court documents which is like a little crazy that then she posted to Instagram on Sunday well yeah because if you file on Thursday like

    are you a single mom no

    that was a different question that you had but I'm just saying like they got away with their filing nobody was looking for it so like they could have they wanted people to look offended unless they've been separated for so long they're like how did you bitches not figure it out here we go right right right but they do have two uh daughters Ezra and Dolores

    so I just can't hear the name Dolores without thinking of Katania like she owns that name um this is you know this is sad it's always sad when a family breaks up you know

    he commented so it's clear that they're not, you know, any bad blood or anything.

    Hey, stop.

    She wasn't doing anything.

    Now it obviously just like opens the door for, you know, who does Jeremy Allen White date next?

    Taylor Swift.

    Okay, he's like, I think way shorter than her.

    He's like not that tall.

    Taylor's so tall.

    So underrated.

    She might even be like a little taller than Matt Healy, but it doesn't really matter because he's still tall.

    Jeremy Allen White is like a short king, but he's like really hot.

    Okay.

    And he's like, I think he's also like.

    He's 32.

    Oh, okay.

    She's what, 30, like for your 32, yeah.

    1989.

    Right.

    Do the math, do the math.

    Depending on her birthday, it's December.

    33.

    33.

    It's still,

    it's not a match.

    Okay.

    He's very artsy.

    Like his Instagram is all black and white.

    She likes artists.

    Yeah, but like, I think he might consider her like too mainstream, you know?

    He sounds like, he gives me like toxic NYU student vibes, you know?

    Okay.

    Like the kids in my class.

    Let me check my list.

    I don't know if I have any art girls.

    We also do need to update the list.

    Do you know who's art girl that's single?

    Who?

    This is so random, but just because it's art.

    John Mulaney's ex-wife.

    Anna Marie Tenler.

    Okay, like, I don't know if she...

    Is it too much art?

    I don't know.

    She gives me, like, older vibes.

    How old is she?

    Google.

    Maybe she just gives me that vibe because she was like married for a while.

    Yeah, she is 37.

    Okay.

    So we can add her to the list, too.

    She's short.

    We love that.

    We could add her to the list.

    Okay, girls.

    Jeremy Allen White and Chloe.

    No.

    Aza Gonzalez.

    No.

    Selena Gomez.

    No.

    Lori Harvey.

    Hmm.

    I don't hate it, but continue.

    Minka Kelly is dating someone, right?

    She was last seen with the Imagine Dragons singer, Dan, and they were like, we haven't heard anything.

    Okay.

    Question mark next to her name.

    Apparently, she just came out with a memoir that is so good.

    Really?

    I saw that it's the best celebrity memoir of the year.

    Whoa.

    Yeah.

    Got to add it to my.

    I love her.

    By the way, when I was driving through Frisco, basically all there is in Frisco is car dealerships.

    I have Jeremy Allen's girlfriend.

    And I just want to say I felt like Lila Garrity.

    Continue.

    Florence Pugh.

    Florence Pugh.

    So it's settled.

    He'll marry Florence.

    Case closed.

    The end.

    I'll put him on the list just in case, because it's nice to know who's not.

    Even if she starts dating someone, he's not wifed up.

    Yeah, no, he's like an interesting fellow.

    You only get off the list really like when you get engaged.

    I agree.

    So speaking of the list and eligible people, our fifth and final story are kind of like the two most eligible bachelor's matchup getting together and being together in a very real way.

    Who?

    Kendall, Jenner, and Vad Boy sit courtside at the Lakers playoff game amid rumored romance.

    Stop calling it a rumored romance.

    Like, no, they literally like made out on the horse.

    They were hanging out on the court.

    It's not a rumor.

    They went to Coachella.

    They've been spot on like 11 dates.

    Amid romance.

    They literally are like always leaving a party together.

    Like they're...

    They couldn't have been more clear with us.

    And we're all sitting here being like, well, are they?

    It's a rumor that they're together.

    Oh my gosh.

    Why do they keep calling it that?

    Seriously.

    I don't know.

    I need to understand.

    It's infuriating.

    So they were photographed side by side in high spirits at the Lakers versus Golden State Warriors playoff game on Friday.

    Oh, I guess that's who's also in the playoffs.

    Oh, but they have a good matchup.

    California.

    Yeah.

    It's been like very buzzy.

    Yeah, because the Kardashians were there.

    That's why.

    But also because it's like LA.

    Yeah.

    And the Lakers.

    Like, they have so many suffering fans.

    On the other team.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    Oh, and I think LeBron is on the Lakers, right?

    Yeah, that sounds right.

    So it's like very buzzy.

    Very buzzy.

    Yeah.

    Hard to get tickets.

    Kendall and Bad were both wearing snakeskin boots.

    What does it mean?

    What does it mean?

    I wonder if they coordinated that.

    Like, it's kind of cool.

    Or are just like snake skin boots like so in right now that like...

    Do you think when you're in a celebrity couple

    that your stylists like might talk about what you guys are wearing at this level of dating?

    Maybe.

    I would be shocked if they do at this level of dating.

    I understand if you're like a couple.

    A solidified couple engaged, certainly married.

    Yeah.

    But like to be in a rumored romance and like we're going to coordinate outfits, I kind of think it's just a coincidence.

    Yeah, that's fair.

    But this just whole week or like two, the Kardashians have been at like every game, like with North and they're like rooting for Tristan.

    Yeah, so Kim and North went to the Lakers game and North had a sign.

    Yeah.

    That said Tristan.

    And I guess it's like cute because like

    he's like kind of her uncle in like a weird way, like like not, but like, yeah.

    Yeah, and true's dad.

    It's and it's her cousin's dad.

    But do you think that this means anything like in terms of Chloe and Tristan?

    I'm gonna say no.

    Okay.

    Because Chloe would have been there and like, why not Chloe go to one game?

    Right.

    Actually, I don't think she could deal with the pressure.

    When she used to go to Lamar's games, she would say like every time that she went, people would be like, they lost.

    Chloe's a curse.

    And she would talk on the show about how it really made her feel bad.

    That's one thing, but another is just Chloe doesn't like being in the public eye anymore.

    Like when you watch new kardashians like she has so much anxiety around red carpets even when they like went to miami just like walking from the car to the restaurant like those pictures give her so she's not going to sit courtside and be evaluated for three hours yeah and but north is like taking a front you know

    approaching stance she's no she's taking like a main character role in the family these days between like her tick tock and like kim takes her everywhere now maybe she kim thinks she's like old enough for it but like she's kind of like putting the family on her back yeah she would say so for sure for sure so would nori's black book.

    Yeah.

    But it feels like an intentional shift.

    Like Kim has like put North now like very forward-facing.

    Oh

    she brought her to that award that

    she stole the show.

    Yeah, and they had that like high fashion week in Milan late last year.

    Yeah.

    It's like maybe it's like a like a coming of age, like like about myths.

    She's like nine.

    No, I know.

    I don't know.

    I just think it's like these are North's interests and then everything that like North and Kim do attracts attention.

    Maybe, maybe.

    You know?

    Yeah.

    Because then she's also just a kid going to Katy Perry with her friends.

    So true.

    On a private jet and going on stage.

    Now, you know, Taylor's tour takes LA.

    Like, she, I think she's doing like seven shows, maybe six.

    And it's just been so interesting because there are so many celebrities who like outwardly love Taylor, but there are so many celebrities who have like been very outspoken in their dislike for her, had beef with her.

    Who have beef with her, who she has beef with.

    Right, right.

    Like Katy Perry's been resolved.

    Like she has beef with Kim.

    She has beefed with like Demi Lovato.

    She's like beefed with the most random people.

    She has beefed with Pink, which is like so weird.

    Like, Pink just went off on her on Watch Observation one year.

    And LA is like this, obviously, this hub of celebrity.

    And I'm so curious to see like which celebrities will be at the LA shows.

    Like, Kim has been like posting videos over the last like two years where she's like working out or getting glam.

    And in the background, there's like Taylor Swift music playing, like, almost feeling like intentional.

    Yeah.

    I feel like the only way that any of the Kardashians like go to Taylor Swift is like if Khloe takes some of the girls.

    Because I feel like Chloe listens to her the most just based on like what I've seen.

    Okay.

    And also like her vibe.

    Like Chloe's vibe is very like lover.

    Taylor, yeah.

    You know.

    So true.

    And so I don't think Kim, Kim cannot go.

    Kim could not.

    And I don't think they could go.

    Like they're, they could be patrons of SoFi Stadium.

    They could buy a box.

    And the Azoffs like own the stadium, right?

    And that's got their friends.

    They're family friends.

    Yeah.

    So yeah, they could just like get a box, like buy tickets.

    It doesn't have to be like a coordinated.

    They don't have to talk to Taylor's camp, Tree Payne.

    It's not like Taylor's camp and Kim's camp got, you know, together.

    Tree and Tracy don't have to talk.

    Right, right, right.

    I would love if they did, but I don't think that they will.

    So they can go and it can mean nothing.

    Yeah, just like the girls like Taylor Swift.

    Right.

    We're not going to deny them because of the parents' draw.

    Like, there's no way none of the grandkids, most of them are girls, don't, like, there's not one of them who's not a super fan.

    Yeah.

    Like, I could so see Penelope being like a super fan.

    No, Penelope seems more.

    Is that she's in a reputation era.

    Yeah.

    Totally.

    But I feel like she's, yeah, she's more like into like Travis's music than than she would be.

    Yeah.

    Maybe like Dream.

    No, or

    True, Chicago.

    Yeah.

    Even North.

    If North likes Kitty Perry, like,

    how would she not like Taylor unless she's not allowed to listen to it?

    Right.

    Is there like an embargo in the house?

    I don't think they would do that.

    Me neither, because Kim listens.

    Yeah.

    I just don't know how you could be like a fan of things and not be a fan of Taylor Swift.

    Yeah.

    No, I think if it's going to happen, Chloe takes some of the kids.

    That's a good prediction.

    Yeah.

    Maybe one other, maybe like maybe Courtney.

    Honestly, like Courtney's like such a mom.

    She doesn't care about anything other than her kids' happiness.

    I know, but I don't think, I think Chloe's more of a Taylor fan than Courtney would be.

    And maybe Chloe goes with like...

    Malika.

    Do Kendall and Taylor have beef?

    Well, Kendall and Taylor were

    friends at one point.

    Like via Gigi.

    Yeah, but she went on stage at 19.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Which is so crazy.

    So maybe like Chloe and Kendall take the girls.

    Or Chloe and Kendall.

    But I feel like Shirtstormalieu loves her.

    For sure.

    I think actually, in terms of all the girls who have like the weirdest relationship with Kendall, like, I mean, with Taylor, Kendall's is probably the weirdest, like up there with Kim, because they were friends.

    Because they were friends.

    And, you know, in Paris, the song on Midnights, I, like, feel like that opening line, your ex-friend's sister met someone at a club and he kissed her.

    Turns out it was that guy you hooked up with ages ago, some wannabe sea lister.

    I just feel like that's your ex-friend's sister.

    Okay.

    Oh, so she, it's...

    Taylor is your.

    Yeah, your ex-friend's sister.

    By the way, the context of the song is like somebody saying this to Taylor.

    Okay.

    She's like, did you hear?

    And then Taylor's like, no, I didn't, but thanks, though.

    Okay, so.

    Your ex-friend's sister, Kendall.

    Kendall's sister.

    No, your ex-friend is Kim.

    Oh, no, sorry.

    Yeah, your ex-friend is Kendall.

    Sister, any of them.

    Any of them.

    Was at a club.

    Yeah.

    And made out with some wannabes lister.

    Kylie?

    I don't know.

    It could be anyone.

    Yeah.

    Maybe.

    I just feel like there's a lot of weirdness.

    I feel like an underrated weird relationship is Kendall and Taylor.

    Everyone says Kim and Taylor, but Kendall was friends with her when that whole thing went down.

    Yeah.

    And then Gigi's friends.

    And they weren't the best of friends.

    No, but then Gigi's in this like weird ass place where like she's really good friends with Kendall, but of course like sisters with Taylor.

    Same with her and Selena because Selena was spotted out like a few times with Zane.

    Yeah.

    But like Kendall and Gigi are like so ride.

    No, sorry.

    I can't keep these people's names.

    Gigi and Taylor are like sisters.

    Like there's no breaking them up.

    Yeah, but there is a lot of crossover.

    Then like Kendall and Haley are such good friends, but

    Haley, Selena, Taylor.

    Selena, Taylor.

    There's like Young Hollywood is so.

    Gigi, Kendall, Selena, Haley.

    Right.

    Gigi.

    And then there's the other layer of the weekend.

    Haley.

    No.

    Selena Taylor Bella.

    Like, it just, it never ends.

    Yeah.

    Incestuous.

    Yeah.

    But Taylor's just kind of like.

    Like out of it, you know?

    Yeah, I mean, she's 33.

    I think she knows who her real friends are.

    Right.

    I think she doesn't,

    she's she's probably like most people.

    Like, I don't care to make more friends.

    Like, I, and she has a really big group and circle of friends, and so many people can't get it.

    And it's gotten smaller, like, right, like, I'm good, but I don't think that keeps her up.

    Like, how am I going to win Kendall's friendship?

    You know, every time, like, she's seen out with a celeb or like someone has come to the show, she doesn't like do that girl gang thing anymore.

    So I don't really know, like, who she's on good terms with.

    So it's like, I was so happy to see Jennifer Lawrence and her good.

    She hangs out within her time off.

    Like, when she was walking down the street with Hames and you know, those people are obvious, but like Jennifer Lawrence, like,

    no, but like, she was at the show this weekend, like, they're good it's nice to see because there was like the breakup of that girl group you know was jennifer lawrence in it no she's kind of irrelevant and actually she's hugely close with the kardashians right right i guess you're like you could have friends who don't get along i think that's extremely mature yeah as long as they don't bother you about it right like at you involved oh leave me alone yeah so toxic um

    So that's for your fast five.

    I feel like all of them were, you needed to know all of them, except that bullshit about Kelly, those lies were just.

    Yeah, you didn't need to know the lies, but you do need to know that people are telling lies about Kelly and that so that you can be in a position to defend her.

    Lying on her name.

    Yeah.

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