Horizontal Girls with Paige DeSorbo: Friday, April 14th, 2023

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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Friday.

Friday.

Gotta get down on Friday.

We are capping off Toast Friends and Family Week with such a delightful, gorgeous, stunning guest that everyone loves.

And I can't lie, I have to be honest like I hate when you come here thank you so much because you stunt on these hoes like look at your shoes look at your whole outfit and I took so long to get ready today to the point where it's almost embarrassing when you see I'm just wearing like a sweater and pants you look nice I got new comes rich

Wow I always say that to Taylor Strucker and that's her favorite combo that is her aesthetic she like dresses like a rich woman but like she only shops at Zara I'm like you are such an upper east side rich woman thank you I got new culottes all for paige culottes out for paige you look stunning tell us about your outfit Thank you.

Okay, there's this website called Source Unknown.

It's not, it's like if Zara had not expensive prices, but like a little bit

more scale.

Zara's getting a little out of control with their prices.

Um, did you see like the jackets for like $300?

I was like, why don't you come down?

It used to be like, all right, crazy pricing there.

Like you would get somebody expensive.

It was like $50.

Right.

And now it's like everything baseline $79.

And

sometimes I'll be like, okay, it's a nice jacket.

It's $150.

Maybe I'll get...

It's well made.

But when I see like $3.99, I'm like, I'll have a word with the manager.

That's how you know these dark economic times are really taking a hit onto everything.

Like Zara too.

You say Zara or Zara.

I say Zara.

I don't know what I say, but whenever I say it, I say it differently and I always get yelled at.

Like, I think I say Zara.

I know a lot of my girlfriends from Long Island, they say Zara.

Uh-huh.

And so I like hearing it.

It makes me feel like I really do live in New York.

What?

Where are you from originally?

I'm from Albany.

Like Albany.

You have like a a Long Island-ish accent.

Everybody says that.

Everyone actually always thinks I'm from Jersey.

Yeah, you have like a very tri-state area, like similar to me.

I'm a tri-state.

But you're from Albany.

Yeah.

The nation's capital.

No, the state capital.

Beautiful part of town.

No, it really is.

I've spent some time there.

Have you?

What are you doing?

On tour.

I spent like one night there.

Okay.

Where did you go?

My tickets didn't sell well, so I never went back.

But I went to, I played The Egg.

Oh, okay.

You know, The Egg?

I went to a prom at the Egg.

I got an egg.

My prom is at the Latin Quarter in New York.

And I stayed at the Renaissance Hotel.

Okay.

And I want to shout out the Renaissance in Albany.

It was a gorgeous facility.

Wow, I've never stayed.

And they had Netflix.

And this was like on the first tour.

It was like four or five years ago.

It was kind of like crazy that they had Netflix.

Don't you love when a TV at a hotel is a smart TV?

Yes, but let's talk about Chromecast because I don't fuck with Chromecast.

So a lot of these TVs, some of them have built-in Netflix.

Like on the remote, it says Netflix.

And I feel

so privileged, the 1%.

And then sometimes they're like, you can stream.

And I'm like, oh, great.

And it's like, you have to download Chromecast on your phone and then you have to download Netflix on your phone and Chromecast Netflix.

And then you can't use your phone while you're watching TV.

I went out to LA and I was like, I am going to treat myself.

I am going to pretend I'm Morgan Stewart and stay at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Oh, my God.

Okay, rich.

Amazon Live paying well.

You have to Chromecast at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

I don't believe you.

I was like, um.

Pardon?

That's disgusting.

Isn't it disgusting?

You know what's something I started to do?

It's like kind of crazy.

But like you travel a lot, you do Giggly Squad tour.

When I'm on tour, I had a Roku fire, like a stick that I brought with me that had all my login already.

Wow.

And I would like get behind the TV and plug it in.

Sometimes the TV was like stuck to the wall and I couldn't get my arm back there, but a lot of the times it worked.

You're living in 2050 and we're all just mere mortals.

It was kind of like really smart.

Yeah, that is actually very smart.

How's the Giggly Squad tour going?

I have not been to a show and I want to come.

So we're going next week.

We start in Nashville and we're doing like all of Texas.

So fun.

So, I'm very excited for like a Western vibe.

What are you going to wear?

I have a couple sets picked out that are very like, if I were to go to Coachella.

Or like Stagecoach.

Stagecoach, that's what I'm thinking of.

You should go to Stagecoach.

I'm going this year.

It's really where is it?

It's the same exact grounds as Coachella.

I've never been to Coachella.

That's like makes you so cool.

Everything too is like effortlessly cool.

Yeah.

Me and Remy was on the podcast.

I thought it made me like an introvert.

No.

No.

I like fell into societal pressures two years in a row and like I'm like a loser and I just like am desperate for fame and like acceptance.

And I think

in order to do that, like you have to go to Coachella.

It's literally why we're here.

I just feel like Coachelle is a part of that toxic cycle.

And I will say like I had such preconceived notions.

It was

something I like hated, mostly because I'd never been invited.

Yeah.

And the first year I went, me and Jackie were like haters and we had such a good time.

It was so like, we got the hype.

And then the year after that, we like went fully prepared and it was more fun, but stagecoach is so much more fun Not enough people talk about stagecoach, but I think that's fine.

It's not like thirsty Well, I have the outfit So maybe I will go and I do like country music a lot of people like hate on country music I like it.

I actually like do have an extra ticket if you wanted to come like shannon.

I do like Shannon's coming with us my sister Mark What are the dates?

Literally in two weeks like April 26th to May 1st like that weekend.

I can't because we have summer house reunion Okay, well, let's talk about summer house.

Okay.

It's kind of like a crazy season in the sense that like nothing crazy is happening, but people are having like a lot of discourse like serious combos people are very mad there seems to be and i just watched the episode last night where we're celebrating kyle's 40th and like i'm all about you know age is just a number but like it is really crazy that there's actually a 40 year old man on this show and how old are the new girls like gabby and sam like 22 okay so sam is 25 and gabby is i want to say gabby's 32.

okay i thought gabby was younger but like sam is 25 and like dancing on the kitchen table at four in the morning and like so is kyle and it's like

there seems seems to be a disconnect that a lot of people are like can't get past.

Okay, so you know when Vanderpump, we were like, oh, they're silver at Vanderpump.

They don't even work there anymore.

They've grown out of it.

I feel like we have hit that point where there's nowhere else for us to go.

Yeah.

That we're like

we're like because to be honest, like when you go out to the Hamptons, I don't want to drink the way I did when I was 25.

Of course.

And also physically cannot.

Of course.

Like I will be vomiting.

And everyone's always like, Paige is always in the bed.

Yes, and I'll never apologize for being horizontal.

Here's the thing.

You don't know who you're talking to.

Like you quite literally never have to explain yourself.

I would, I would spend more time in the bed than you.

Like it's exhausting social battery wise.

I get depleted.

Like I hit my socializing limit and I'm like, gotta go.

Gotta go.

See ya.

That's so fair.

And also like I am drinking on the weekend.

So like I'm hungover.

And I'm sorry that they don't show on TV like me vomiting.

Yeah.

But like it happens.

Yeah.

No, I totally, I don't, I don't find fault in anything that you guys are doing.

And you have always spent time in the bed.

And so you're nothing if not consistent.

Yeah.

Exactly.

But we're at this like impasse, definitely, where I feel like a lot of, I love the new girls.

Like I love Gabby, even though like I'm so anti-horoscope to my core.

Are you?

Well, what's your sign?

Oh, God.

Shut up.

My sign is cancer.

Don't ask me about my moonrise.

I want to know what that is like one of the only signs that my sign like fucks with.

What's your sign?

I'm a Scorpio.

Is that November?

Yeah.

You've seen Birthday is Jackie, right?

I'm November 4th.

Oh, she's the 6th.

Okay.

Same thing.

It's like a queeny kind of week.

Yeah.

Sally Fields is also November 6th.

Who's your birthday buddy?

Matthew McConaughey.

Nice.

Bethany Frankl.

And I think that's up.

Remember when like birthday buddies were such like a thing?

Like my birthday buddy is Jessica Simpson.

And when we were like growing up, for you, like was birthday buddy a thing?

Like whatever celebrity?

I've literally never heard the term birthday buddy.

Maybe it's like a niche family thing that me and Jackie are like always.

I feel like that is very niche.

Oh my God.

My sister Olivia's was Michelle Kwan.

Like we were obsessed with birthday buddies.

Go back to Michelle Kwan.

I agree.

And we were in the mall in Florida like when we were all really young and we saw Michelle Kwan and like it was a big deal because she was Michelle Kwan and at the time it was iconic.

But for our family, it was like another layer because it was Olivia's birthday buddy.

And I was, we were not okay.

Do you do birthday buddies?

I mean, I've done like, oh, what famous person has your same birthday?

But I've never heard it referred to as birthday buddies.

But from this day moving forward, I will say, who's your birthday buddy?

But it wasn't like a form of social currency, like where you grew up.

Maybe it's like not an Albany thing.

No.

Guys, let me know in the comments.

Like, yeah.

Am I wrong here?

Like, I knew, but it wasn't talked about as much as I feel like it was talked about.

And it wasn't like a level, like, it didn't add to your popularity or anything.

Damn.

Well, that's why I feel like a deep connection to Jessica Simpson.

Yeah.

To explain.

Do you feel a deep connection?

I do.

I do.

I've always loved her, especially because she's my birthday buddy.

Yep.

And I felt like so connected to her in a weird way because of that, but also because I loved her music.

And I was just like,

I grew up during that time.

I wish she would have like a resurgence.

Did you read her book?

No, I didn't.

Do you read?

I'm not a reader.

I listened to you and Jackie, and I'm not a reader.

That's fair.

I was so anti, so I can totally understand.

Like when Jackie used to read, I used to like mock her endlessly.

And that's kind of the theme at the toast: Jackie does things to better herself.

And like, I make fun of her, and then three years later, I do them.

And I'm like, you were so right, you know, like watching Downtown Abbey.

So I'm sad because every time I come here, it's because Jackie Jackie camped I know and I've still like never really I know out with her and me and Hannah were talking about this on Tuesday like in the giggly squad like you're very much a Jackie and Hannah's very much a Claudia and Jackie's totally a page and I'm totally a Hannah but literally Jackie has never podcasts with you I don't think she's ever met you no we've never met but she loves you we've only ever talked on like we're Instagram friends and I obviously keep up with everything she does yeah it counts we were sending back a clip of you guys the other day cracking up Paggy yes omara can you tell that story you told this funniest story on your podcast.

For those who don't know, she hosts podcasts with Hannah from Tuesday's episode called Giggly Squad.

And you were talking about how Uber drivers always pronounce your name incorrectly, but they always call it the same thing.

Yes, Paggy.

So it started when I was in college and I had this one professor that just could never get my name right and he called me Paggy.

So like.

But your name isn't even like complex.

It's a one syllable.

It's one syllable and it's like also a common word.

Word as in like a page of pages.

I just happened to throw an I in there right in the middle.

But a lot of people do.

Right.

Does anybody spell it without the I?

I've seen it like a few times where girls have spelt it without the I.

Okay, but it's common to have an I.

Okay.

So in college, this professor, I was Paggy, and that's what I went by.

And who was I to correct this smart, smart man?

But a professor?

Like, he should even know, like, linguistically.

I think I did say, like, on the first day, like, oh, it's Paige.

Right.

And he was like, we don't know what's we're going to call you Paggy.

And I was like, cool.

I was the catty heron.

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

So just do my favorite room microphone a little closer to your mouth.

Sorry, no, you're good.

So then when Uber started, I got into like my first Uber, and they were like Paggy.

And I was just like, Yeah, that's for me.

And so, ever since, I've just never, it's like being at the nail salon.

Like, I'm not going to correct them when I hate the color.

I'm not going to correct them in my name.

I'm never going to correct them when I hate the color.

I'm just going to go home and cry.

Like, I know I'm not going to become friends with the Uber driver, so I'm not worried that he thinks I'm Paggy.

Yeah, that's just so funny that, like, their brain, a lot, like, all of them, like, collectively go to Paggy.

I would never even think of that pronunciation.

I think the E, maybe the E at the end is really throwing them.

I don't know.

Like, even your professor, he would know phonetically, if he's he's like an educated person that Y would be Paggy.

Right.

For me, everyone can pronounce Claudia, right?

And a lot of people just assume I'm Latin.

Okay.

So they'll start talking to me in Spanish.

Stop.

And I actually do speak Spanish.

Oh, okay.

But I'll say, I'm like, not really.

I'm not Latin.

I'm actually Eastern European Jew.

But it's, it's, it's odd for sure.

Yeah, it's just like you don't know what to say.

Yeah.

So I'm just, I just go with it.

Are you like a big converser in Uber?

No.

I weirdly am.

If they start talking, if I get like a really nice guy who like is starting to talk to me about like, oh, like what's the weather?

Oh, what's like, where are you going?

I'm taking you to the airport.

Yeah.

Then I will talk back, but I've never started it.

Oh, I have.

What's your first question?

How long have you been driving Uber?

Or like, have you been really busy today?

Because I always find it like interesting based on the weather.

I have, I've asked that.

Because New York, randomly, you're like, where is all this traffic coming from?

What's going on?

And they do know a lot of insights.

Well, Well, that's the other thing.

I find that, like, Uber drivers and taxi drivers are the eyes and ears of this city.

Yes.

And I find, like, I always want to take the temperature, like, especially when it comes to the mayors.

And I've been living in the city since I was in middle school.

Right.

So I've been through Mayor Bloomberg, Mayor de Blasio, now Mayor Adams, and they always hate the mayor.

American government.

Literally.

You are a diplomat.

A woman of the people.

And I always want to know, I'm like, do you hate the mayor?

And they loved Bloomberg.

Okay.

Hated de Blasio with a fiery passion.

And they're pretty much hating Eric Adams too.

And I just like to, I want to know what the people are saying.

Yeah, you're getting temperature.

Put my finger on the polls.

When Uber first started, I did actively ask, like, what's the deal with the taxi drivers?

Like, do you guys beef?

It was an interesting dynamic.

They had a lot to say.

That's good.

So I was very in on that gossip.

Yellow taxi drivers want nothing to do with you.

Nothing.

But I appreciate it.

I live for it.

I mean, they put a wall up.

Quite literally.

And you know, it's bad when you get in and then they close the partition.

Like, it was open.

Maybe they wanted to talk to the person before, but not fucking you, bitch.

But I do appreciate in some taxis when they have that really long metal thing to do the air.

Yes.

That's very niche.

Okay, so in the summer, you guys, if you've never been in a New York City yellow taxi, the front seat with this like the driver's seat and the passenger seat, right behind it, there's a plastic partition.

So it's like nobody can come up and like fuck with the driver.

There's like a little hole you put the money through.

There's a TV.

But it makes it really difficult in the summer because it's so fucking hot.

And the air conditioning, usually in the older ones, comes from the front.

Right.

So a lot of really generous and thoughtful drivers will take this like it's like duct.

You know, it's like that

silver

tube.

And they'll funnel the air from the front to the window in the back and I will sit with my head up that thing.

I try and get inside of it.

I want to live.

I'm like thinking about sitting in the front seat in the summer.

It gets so fucking hot.

Why you just like open like a deep recess of my mind?

Those things are amazing.

It's so thoughtful.

Yeah, it really is.

So I tip them a lot.

Yeah, of course.

Because I'm like, thank you.

But you know, the new thing in yellow taxis, and I think why a lot of them are disliking the current mayor, is the base fare.

It's like before you go anywhere, the base fare now is like $7.

Really?

And that pushes people to tip less, which sucks because that base fare doesn't go to the driver.

It's like taxes, congestion fee.

And say, well, that should be going to the driver.

Right.

But it doesn't.

I went out on a date one time with this guy and he asked me, when you're in a taxi and it says like 10, 20, 30%,

what do you click?

That's a very good question.

And I said, well, I usually click 20.

And he said, stop doing that.

Click 30.

Their lives are so hard and they take so much money from taxi drivers.

So I don't even remember who the guy was.

But from that day on, I started clicking 30.

Isn't it funny what sticks with you?

Like random things people have said to you that are like, this guy's inconsequential to your life.

Like you never like loved him.

Yeah.

But weirdly, like things people say stick with you forever.

Do you ever think about like people that you went to middle school with and like how you think of them and then like from one instance that they probably don't remember and what's their one instance that they think of you?

I often think about like what people who knew me in former lives think about me now, especially given what I do for a living and I'm sure you.

I think about it.

all the time.

I'm like how to sometimes.

But I really want to know like who hates me?

I know.

Like from middle school that I don't know hates me.

I think about that a lot.

I wouldn't be surprised if like a lot of people hate me.

I was so deeply insecure as a little girl that I think I projected that as like being mean.

Like I think I, I don't think I was like a really friendly girl.

Like I had friends and I was like not interested in making more.

See, I was like just really shy and quiet.

Oh, I was like loud and annoying.

So I think I gave bitchy vibes because I was like nervous to be anywhere but my bed.

And that's me as like an adult now, you know?

How many hours a week would you say you spend in your bed?

And be honest, because it's a very safe space.

Oh,

more than half.

No, like I

am a couch girl too, but it hits, it hits a point in the night where I'm like, I'm moving it to the bed.

Yeah.

Where Craig is a full couch guy.

Oh my God, I hate my couch.

So he'll make me stay on the couch till like midnight.

Oh.

And then we'll go to the bed.

Where like at my house, it's like 10.30.

We're moving it to the bed.

Oh, 10.30.

I'm quite literally in bed at four o'clock for the night.

Yeah.

It's the best.

Yeah, like, like, I go home to, when I go home after this, I don't have anything to, anywhere to be after.

I'll put my comfies on and I'll be in and out of the bed.

A hundred percent?

But like, doesn't everyone do that?

Doesn't, but like, no, they don't.

That's crazy.

I can't relate.

I, my couch, actually, I've had my couch for four years.

It is in pristine condition.

I've never sat on it.

And I had like, um, you know, the carpet cleaning, couch cleaning.

Yes.

The companies.

Oh, that was a very satisfying story that you were pretty much.

I know.

He was great.

And literally my couch was so clean.

And you, so you don't ever like watch TV on your couch?

Unless it's like a big event, not like the Super Bowl, but if everyone's like watching something, I might watch it on the couch just because it's like, I don't know, I try to make it like a big affair.

Okay.

Okay.

No.

Very interesting.

Okay, back to Summerhouse because like I keep getting off TV.

Okay.

Runion's coming up.

Reunion's coming up.

You're very much like in a safe space, I feel.

You're not like majorly a part of like Danielle or Lindsay.

I feel like I don't really have much to answer for.

Yeah.

But I find this Lindsay thing so interesting because I've been waiting for like the trial of Lindsay Hubbard for many seasons and I don't feel like this one's it.

Like I don't know why Danielle's like so butthurt about her being in a relationship with Carl.

It gives like weird vibes to me.

And like last season, oh my god, I was like so not teen Lindsay.

And this time I'm like, well, I don't really see like what everyone's all butthurt about.

Yeah, I think, Dan, yeah, I think here's the thing that with Summerhouse, I don't think they ever properly showed really how close Lindsay and Danielle truly are.

Like they have been best friends for six years.

And I remember like the first summer I was on the show and they had gotten into like a fight about something.

And I was like, oh my God, I feel like they never fight.

Like they're best friends.

This is so crazy.

I remember looking at Hannah being like, what do we say?

And Hannah was like, just shut your mouth.

And I was like, okay.

So, and that like never, that fight never aired.

And then like another summer, they got into like a little snafu about something.

Like stupid things, but it's like friends are fighting.

Yeah.

And I just always felt like, wow, if me and Amanda had that, they would immediately show it.

So I don't think like the viewers know how close they really were and like certain things that are underlying history.

Yeah.

So I don't know if Danielle was like mad that she's certainly not mad she was dating Carl.

Right.

But I think there were like so many deeper things that they just couldn't explain this season because they hadn't in the past.

Do you think you will be invited to Carl and Lindsay's wedding?

I have no idea because, well, one, I have no idea if they're planning.

I don't know if she's a bride that's like, oh, I'm going to be engaged for a little or if I'm a bride that's like immediately planning.

So I have no idea.

You haven't been told either way.

Like,

interesting.

Yeah.

I feel like you will be if it's going to be televised.

That's what I think, too.

Like, if it will.

If it's during summer house, I would assume, but also like.

Or you'll like be in the bed while you're getting married.

Don't tell me with a good time.

Yeah, just like, why don't they bring the bed to the wedding?

That would be good.

Like, I would lay in it the whole time.

I don't want to bring this up because I imagine when people bring it up, it's the same way I feel.

Like, when people ask me when I'm having kids.

Okay.

But last night, not last night.

I watched it last night.

Sunday's episode, there was like a big conversation about you moving to Charleston and you like kind of got anxiety moving away from your family, so fucking relatable.

When you started to cry, I'm like, Yeah, me too.

Yeah, um, but I asked the toasters for questions for you, and people could not get past what you said on Watch Rapids Live about Craig.

Like, I think you said he's 7.5, or like

everyone, please explain yourself.

Okay, first of all, people don't understand when Andy is even talking to you, I immediately freeze.

Yeah, so like every question, I'm like, oh, and then I just say something.

Yeah.

Right when 7.5 came out of my mouth, I was was like, oh my God, Craig is going to be so sad.

If Craig said 7.5, I would have immediately broken up with him.

What was that question?

It was

like, how like, he also, there were so many words in that question.

It was like, how likely is Craig the person you're going to marry?

Is he the one for you?

One to 10.

And I was like, I went middle.

I was like, 7.5.

I don't know.

It is a tough question, like word-wise.

And then after, I think it was Sierra.

Sierra said, like, oh, like, you're going to have to answer to Craig.

And so then I immediately called Craig.

He didn't watch it.

And I was like, watch what I said.

And he was like, I know.

Basically, he was like, I know you're stupid.

Yeah.

Right.

I know you got confused.

And I know your humor.

Yeah.

Like, good.

So, like, nothing happened between me and Craig, but I.

people got very upset.

Well, I think people feel really like so invested in your relationship, like to another level that I think you like scared everyone, Paige.

Like, Paggy, come on.

I know.

I was like, I'm so sorry to do that.

Okay, everyone's nerves.

But like, that was good.

yeah but no we're fine but the question I didn't want to ask but it's literally the number one question we got for you was like status on you moving to Charleston

so here's the thing too like growing up obviously I didn't grow up in New York City but growing up in New York and then I've lived in the city for 10 years now the south is so different beyond and i don't mean just like oh everyone's married and everyone has kids like cert like they just think differently culturally yeah yeah and it is a big not only a big change in that but it's also the thought of having to get on a plane every time I want to see my mom is terrifying.

And when I have children, I want my parents

to be around and be able to be there.

So like, obviously, people haven't seen this on the show, but I've talked to my parents about it.

Like, okay, if I move to Charleston, what are you guys going to do?

And my mom was like, I would have no problem getting a house in Charleston, wherever you are, coming down for a few months.

Like, do not worry about us.

We will come to you.

We will make sure that you don't feel like we're away.

That's so sweet.

Are you an only child?

No, but I act like one.

I have an older brother, but he acts like an only child.

Got it.

Well, that's so sweet of your mom.

Isn't that so cute?

That's so nice.

So it really put me at ease.

Good.

But I'm also not ready to move.

I love New York and I love, like, we can't do what we do really not in New York sometimes.

Well, you could technically still be on Summer House, correct?

You could just spend your summers in New York.

Yes, I could

technically still do that.

But I could also always just switch over to Southern Charles.

Well, that was a question we got for you when I was curious, too.

Like, if you did move there, like, being a member, a cast member on that show is an option, correct?

For sure.

Got it.

Is Craig moving to New York, which I know is like not really.

I don't, he said, I think he said that in the moment because I freaked him out and started crying.

Right.

And he was like, I love you more.

And I was like, okay, all better.

Great.

But I don't think he would ever like sell his house in Charleston.

If I said to him, like, hey, I want to spend half the year in New York, half the year in Charleston, he would totally do that.

But he travels a ton too.

And I can say, out of all the things we fight about, our long distance really has never been one of them.

Like we've never felt like one person makes the effort more.

Like we do, like he's flown to New York for lunch before because like he hasn't seen me and then whole like flyback.

Right.

So I'm not that, I'm not as worried as other people.

Oh, that other people are making me worried.

Yeah, of course.

But I'm not, I'm not that worried about it.

Okay, that's good.

Literally, when we got questions, I'm looking at them now.

How could we help you?

Let's help Fred.

Let's move us to New York.

Like, people are going to literally pack up your apartment for you.

That's how invested people feel.

It's crazy.

Wow, I love that I have free movers.

Thank you.

Literally.

And the other question

that I thought was interesting is because you're very much like a style.

like icon for a lot of people and wedding style is so

specific.

People want to know what your wedding style is.

Are you classic?

Are you traditional?

What are you?

I actually, actually, it's the one thing that I have no idea.

I actually brought up getting married in Italy to Craig's family.

And his mom was like, no.

Why don't you get married in Delaware?

And I was like, where am I getting married in Delaware?

So her and I had a little, we went back and forth.

And I said, I promise that I will make your experience so lovely.

And she said, fine.

Okay.

But I have no idea.

Craig really doesn't want to get married in Charleston.

Yeah.

And I don't really want to get married in New York City.

I mean, they do say that Delaware is the Italy of the Northeast.

So it's kind of similar.

I don't know if anyone's ever said that.

I feel like they've said that.

Could you see me with like a Pinterest barn

wedding?

Right.

Like, no.

And that's the vibe I'd have to do in Delaware.

Like, I feel like, you know, Gen Z now says weddings are chewy.

I know.

And that's because they're not.

Hannah always says that's because they're not old enough to get married.

But I think the wedding style they're talking about is that, you know, barn, twinkly light.

Yeah.

More, you know, millennially aesthetic.

I've never been that aesthetic.

I've always thought like, I would get married in Italy and have this, like, very

1960s, like, famous vibe.

That's so chic.

Like, I love that.

I feel like Jackie would also love it.

Love.

Love.

Like, that's so you.

You guys can come for sure.

I was literally just thinking, like.

I feel like maybe I can be my next one.

No, you would absolutely be.

Yeah, I would invite you for sure.

Craig is obsessed with you.

No, we're obsessed with Craig.

Like, Jackie specifically, I think Jackie feels so almost like, almost like an early, like an investor in Craig.

Because in the beginning seasons, the Southern Charm, people just used to rag on Craig, and Jackie was like, they're wrong about him.

They're wrong about him.

And she was really passionate that he was one of the only ones who was good to Catherine when they were so

terrible to her with the Thomas stuff.

And Jackie just feels very

right about him.

And now it's like everything's coming up, Craig.

He passed the bar and he's got a big business and he's got this gorgeous girlfriend.

And it's like Jackie saw in him what we all see in him now, but she saw it years ago.

Wow.

Sometimes he will say something stupid and I'll be like, it's so funny that you're like a legitimate lawyer.

It's Craig your lawyer.

Like if you ever got arrested for something, like would you call him?

Can I tell you a funny story?

Please.

I got this random email one time.

Craig and I were at this like golf charity event.

I get this email that I'm being sued first.

So flattered.

I was like, oh my God.

By the way, we just got sued.

I love that for you guys.

So I was like, oh my God, I think I'm being sued.

Who?

This guy saying that like I posted a picture that I didn't have the rights to the picture.

That's quite literally what happened to us.

No way.

Yeah, it was, our whole Instagram got shut down.

Stop.

For like a month.

Oh my God.

Okay.

It's real.

You have to be so careful.

So I was like, what is going on?

So Craig read the email and he was like, this is fake.

Don't respond to it.

Like, don't respond to this email.

But I couldn't get it out of my head.

So I texted my agents and like sent it all over.

And they were like, okay, this is in fact you are getting sued.

Like, let us deal with it.

And I looked at him and I go, I would be in jail.

I would literally be in jail if you were my lawyer listen to you like keep practicing your golf swing because i don't need you anymore what ended up happening i had to pay so do we because i was like i tried to do it as long as i could so that like the statue of limitations was up literally same but then they they wanted to take me to court and i was like right what would i wear they had deactivated our instagram account so it we kept trying to drag it out but that was as that was um worst for you right the longer we didn't have an instagram account and it was like 11 photos

so mine was only one what was it of

sophie Turner pregnant.

I had posted it in 2020 when it like her first paparazzi picture of her pregnant.

I'm fairly certain that was perhaps one of our 11 as well.

It was probably the same

agency that owns the photos.

Yes, and I was like, what a like random.

Yeah.

So there are like these companies that like scour Instagram for photos that are owned by like different agencies, like paparazzi agencies, and then sues the, and they file claims with Instagram and then they sue the person and they just like make money for these paparazzi agencies agencies and they take a fee off the top to get these photos taken down and to get their clients paid.

My agents actually really humbled me during it because they were like, we can't believe this is happening to you.

And I was like, I know, it's so crazy.

And they were like, no, no, like this only happens to legitimately famous people.

And I said, thank you so much.

So it was kind of like an,

you having to pay them was like an investment in your career.

Yeah, I felt like that lawyer was like manifesting like

super.

Craig needs that energy.

You know, he could be a little bit more supportive.

Oh man, that's so crazy that that happened to you too.

That was like like a crazy thing that happened to us.

But didn't you feel like so an adult that you were getting sued?

No, I felt so panicked.

Yeah.

Because it was so many photos.

And if they, they didn't want to go to court and neither did we, we were going to settle.

But technically, like the highest extent that they could have charged us per photo, like would have bankrupted us.

Stop it.

It was crazy.

I wanted, I wish you went to court and did like full Gwyneth Palcho at kind of like legally blonde.

Yes.

We would have had Craig represent us.

That could have, that could be its own TV show.

I I know, and we would have gotten like so much press.

It almost might have been worth it.

Yeah.

Like, not only is Craig our lawyer, we're like walking in there, pages in the background, like crying, like dotting on.

I'm just so worried.

I'm like looking over at the guy drawing your pictures.

I'm like, that's not right.

Double chin, erase, erase.

She has a very structured jaw.

She's so rude of you.

She has a structured jaw, sir.

They always do you dirty in those court drawings.

That's why I can never get that.

I would love to see.

I don't think they do court drawings when your thing is televised.

Like the drawings are for people who are like reading about the trial but can't watch it.

I think.

I got it.

Okay.

I think that would make more sense.

Yeah.

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Some like hella dramatic news yesterday, but like very much boy who cried wolf energy.

Drake Bell has addressed his disappearance and just claims he left his phone in his car.

Okay, I immediately thought someone could not find their man.

Oh,

like he left his phone in his car, went missing, like didn't come home.

Like there's a story there.

Right.

And like the local police department had put out an alert.

Like we are looking for Jared Bell date of birth 6279.

Did you know his name was Jared?

No fucking clue.

Yeah.

So where did Drake come from?

I don't know.

Whatever there was like all this hoopla and then like hours later it's like he's been found and everyone's like thank God.

And then he tweeted, let me read it for Batam.

He said, you leave your phone in the car and don't answer for the night.

And then this crying emoji.

Who leaves their phone in the car?

Psychotic energy.

Like that's like having no social media.

Drake Bell like is psychotic energy.

He has like crazy allegations against him for like 16, 15 year olds.

I didn't particularly care when he was missing because I think he's gross.

Yeah.

And I don't keep up with him.

I wonder what the endangered part was.

I don't know, but he has like crazy fanatic, like fans.

Oh, really?

Wait, for what?

For just like, I think the Drake and Josh era.

And then he had like a small music career.

He's like a really niche audience of like diet music.

I didn't know he had a small music career.

Yeah.

I mean, he sang the song for Drake and Josh theme song.

I've met him.

What?

Oh, my God.

Wait.

Hannah interviewed him on our first season of Summerhouse for Burning in Hell, and it was him, and I came and like met her.

There is a scene of the three of us.

Drake Bell is on Summerhouse?

Yes.

Third season.

Mine and Hannah's first season.

That's the thing about like life and pop culture.

It all comes back to Bravo.

It really does.

I just remembered that.

I also have a really horrible memory.

So I like that really.

People say it's from anxiety.

We block things out.

I heard that it's from childhood trauma.

Like, even though I don't know, I can't think of any track.

No, because like, as I'm like, like, did I?

That was your instinct.

Yeah, I'm like, did I shoot it out?

To block things out.

And now you're bringing that into adulthood.

I tried asking my mom if I had any, and she goes, I'll give you some right now.

Are you?

I did everything I could for you.

She's not wrong.

Okay, these are what his crazy fans had said because they were like desperate for answers.

I was so worried.

I felt physically sick when I read the news this morning.

People love and care about you more than you know.

A second person added,

we were really scared, but it means we care a lot for you.

No, like, I'm telling you, he has like these crazy ass fans.

I love niche fans, me too, and like toxic fans.

Yeah, like the whole like Selena Haley thing, some of those fans were nutty, deeply unwell human beings.

Yeah, that was that was almost infuriating.

What side were you on?

Where were you when Selena versus Haley happened?

Okay, I had an unpopular opinion.

So did we.

Everyone being like, Haley is such a mean girl.

And like, how do you know that though?

Why?

Because she's like tall and pretty.

You think she's so mean?

Right.

I felt really bad for Haley that everyone was coming at her.

I do like Selena.

Me too.

But

I also felt like Selena's documentary was just not what I was expecting.

Oh, okay.

We recapped it too.

I'm trying to remember what my thoughts were because it was kind of forgettable.

But what did you think about it?

I just felt like it skipped a lot of things.

And like, we were watching it because we wanted to know about the breakup with her and Justin.

Yeah, of course.

And they never touched on it, but which I get from a PR stance.

But they kind of like teased that they would.

Right.

Like, it was just, it was during that time period.

So, like, when she was sitting there, like, disheveling a lot of people, like, well, why are you crying?

Yeah, well, tell us about it.

Yeah.

So, I just can't believe we're still talking about this.

Me and Jackie felt the exact same.

Like, we were very much like, where is all this energy coming for Haley?

She quite literally did nothing this time around.

I don't, I don't know whatever.

I also didn't feel like that TikTok was about Selena.

No, and we really felt like we love Selena, but like, she kind of fanned the flames a little bit, like, encouraging her fans to be like, she was commenting on people's stuff.

Yeah.

Like, you know, I try not to let this stuff bother you yeah and it's like that you're giving people permission to right to go exactly so it was just so crazy how every we got like attacked for saying that really yeah no i have the same opinion yeah i just felt it was weird you're kind of like the haley beeper of bravo wow yeah cute very much like morgan stewart to e like you to bravo i would die for morgan stewart i just like love her persona also on instagram because i feel like she doesn't care but she's like effortlessly cool she doesn't give a fuck she also stole my baby name but that's here.

Which one?

Ro.

Do you have a relationship with Morgan?

Do you know her?

I never met her.

Oh, really?

I feel like you guys would get along like so.

We never met her.

But I just think she's cool.

I mean, I think every, I don't know a person out there who doesn't think she's cool.

Like, Craig interviewed her husband because he had a, I think, an album coming out.

And he, he loved him.

What did he interview him for?

He interviewed him on Pillows and Beer.

Podcast.

I don't think Austin was there.

It was just Craig.

And he was either going and like doing a concert or like had a song coming out or a song just came out, something like that.

Yeah, no, we, I just met him for the first time because I've been friends with Morgan for a while and I went to dinner with her when I was in LA and she brought her husband, so I brought Ben and they like love to golf.

So if Craig golfs, that's like a really good point of entry.

Craig loves golf.

So you should like get them to golf together and then be like, maybe Morgan, like we should get lunch.

I feel like I'm a crazy niche fan.

No, no, no, no.

I feel like she would love it.

I feel like she knows that like people adore her and she like loves for it.

I also think she's so funny.

She's hysterical.

Like I think her not being on a red carpet for Oscars is like a crime.

What is E doing?

I know.

What are they doing?

I don't know how like everyone everywhere managed to fumble the ball with Morgan Stewart.

Right.

Like, I don't think E ever really put her where she was like meant to be doing.

They really do need to bring back Fashion Police with her as the Joan.

And I feel like she could do that for the next 20, 30 years.

I would love it.

But I feel like E is so scared to like offend.

Say anything.

Right.

Even though it's like literally dresses.

Watching the Oscars was painful.

Beyond.

Everyone looks beautiful.

She looks beautiful beautiful for her.

What's the story with your outfit?

What's the story?

Yeah, like, tell us the story you're telling with the outfit.

It's just like,

no, red carpet coverage has gotten turned.

It's so weird.

It's not right.

But I look forward to seeing Drake Bell on a red carpet coming soon because he is not missing.

Time 100, our next story, have released their influential list.

And guess who's number one?

Who?

What do you guess?

I love guessing.

Wait, I actually...

Is it,

oh my God, now I can't think of her name from White Lotus?

Yes.

She's number one.

Jennifer Coolidge.

So she topped the list.

She can't get over that she got this like esteemed honor.

And she was interviewed by Mia Farrow, which seems like so fucking random, but whatever.

She cannot believe that she is having this like moment of resurgence.

She spoke to Mia Farrow.

She said, so many of the qualities that have made everyone fall in love Mia Farrow said, so many of the qualities that have made everyone fall in love with Jennifer Coolidge are outside of what mainstream is expected.

Her eccentric mannerisms, hilarious improv, and most of all, her aching vulnerability.

She is uncompromisingly, exquisitely herself.

It's actually so true.

And I can't get over like the journey that Jennifer Coolidge has been on.

To me, she will always be.

I hope we're going to say the same thing.

Three, two, one.

A Cinderella story.

No.

Oh, legally blonde.

Also, you look like the fourth of July.

I actually forgot she was in a Cinderella story.

She's the evil stepmom.

Yeah, she's amazing in that.

She's amazing in that.

And there was like an era, I would say early 2000s, where she was really popular, legally blonde.

Of course, Stiffler's mom, which was her big thing.

And then there was like kind of this dead period for her where I don't think she ever thought she would come back.

And a lot of people don't know this, and I always feel like I want to say it.

Her resurgence, and she gives a lot of credit, it has a lot to do with Ariana Grande.

Yes.

When Ariana Grande was on Jimmy Fallon.

Yes.

Yep.

She was like, I'm obsessed with Jennifer Coolidge.

I think they brought Jennifer Coolidge out at one point.

She did her Jennifer Coolidge impersonation.

And Ariana just brought Jennifer Coolidge to this like young audience who didn't know her.

And Jennifer has spoken publicly about how like so much of what's happening to her right now was kind of like the spark was started by Ariana Grande.

I love that.

I know.

How nice of Ariana Grande.

I wonder if they like our friends now.

I have to assume that they are.

Yeah.

And so this is what she had to say about like her.

resurgence as a 61-year-old.

It's like I was sleeping beauty where I was locked in this box under the bed or something.

And now I'm out.

And it's like, well, I'm sure glad they let me out of that box because this is way better.

Oh my God.

She's so good.

I'm so happy for her.

I know.

Is she married?

I don't know.

I don't know a lot about her personal life.

Let me look it up.

I don't even know, does she have kids?

Right.

Like, I would love to like see paparazzi photos of her out on the town in LA, like out to dinner.

Okay.

She is,

I don't believe.

She doesn't have kids and she is single.

Okay.

Wow.

I kind of love that we could get like a single era.

Yes.

I would love to know like who

she's in.

Yeah, what's her type and who has their eye on her?

I also love that they chose her because it's kind of not so obvious.

They chose Michael B.

Jordan, Doja Cat, Bob Iger, King of Disney.

And I feel like a lot of these are like kind of obvious, but Jennifer Coolidge isn't who you would think so immediately.

Yeah, I love her.

I love that too.

The other people included on the list are Austin Butler, Zoe Saldana, Angela Bassett, because she did the thing.

Aubrey Plaza, Colin Farrell, Drew Barrymore.

This is like very kind of generic.

Allie Wong, Salma Hayek, Patrick Mahomes, Lionel Messi, Brittany Griner, Beyonce.

They put Brittany Griner here twice.

I'm usually uninspired by the Time 100 list.

Yeah.

And I don't see any influencers when it's literally the most influential people.

I was just going to say, I'm surprised like Alex Earl isn't on there.

Oh my God.

Would you say that Alex Earl is the most influential person right now?

That,

her or the octopus guy.

What are your thoughts on him?

I love him.

I love him.

I really do.

They did something where the caption was like when the popular girl and the class clown get married together and that is their energy.

That is their energy.

Alex Earl is such an anomaly to me.

It's so crazy.

It's so fun to watch.

I'm looking at this list by the way and I do not see any influence.

She also managed in all the fame she's just gotten in the past couple of months, managed to give the same content she did from before.

See, that's like the toxic cycle of influence.

It's like you blow up because you're so relatable.

And so much about Alex, just being a college girl who like wore crop tops and did her makeup, living in a house with six girls and they have tiny bedrooms was so relatable.

But then your relatability causes you to become rich and famous.

And being rich and famous is not relatable.

So then people start to hate you.

Whenever I post something that's even a little bit expensive, I get nervous.

Yeah.

But I'm like, but I want to show you what I bought.

No, I know.

And it's like, you're proud, but that cycle, like, it doesn't work.

Right.

So Alex Earl has actually done an amazing job.

I agree.

Her content has remained totally the same.

And even now she's on her way to Coachella and the brand guest flew her private.

And she gets off this private plane.

And there's an element, of course, to flying private that's so unrelatable and unattainable.

But she made this hilarious TikTok from the scene from Hannah Montana when she gets off off the private plane hello new york and then she's actually in tennessee so she's actually i don't even know she's doing it on purpose but she's very smart about like the angle at which she's sharing her life i feel like she's not even doing it on purpose like she's just being her and i feel like that's what people are loving i know it's so fascinating to watch for her me too and i've met her and she's so nice oh good she's not like a ditch bitch diva like she's so down to earth so normal and like almost i want to say like shy because sometimes i don't trust a blonde so true

sometimes you got to be be a little weird.

Did you ever go blonde?

Yes, I would.

You would?

Yeah.

I've always wanted, okay, in high school, I wanted to be a redhead so bad.

Then, like, redheads are having a moment.

Hannah just like kind of dyed her hair a little bit red.

I have always wanted to be like a bleach, bleach blonde,

but I feel like I would ruin my real color.

And I do like my real color.

You would ruin your real color.

I also feel like that's so not you.

Yeah.

I feel like it's so easy to be blonde.

I wore a wig for Halloween one year and I just immediately started acting different.

I was different.

I know.

This is, they're right.

They have more fun.

Like, it's different.

They do have more fun other than that.

Yeah.

Alex Earl definitely looks like she's having a blast.

Yeah.

She has way more fun than I do.

Same.

But I think that's because she's literally 19.

Oh, yeah.

And she's like perfect looking.

She's just literally perfect looking.

It's just not fair.

Yeah.

I can't compare myself like to Alex Earl.

I'll get it.

Yeah, no, I feel like a mom.

I so depress myself to her.

I'm like, oh, I remember when I went out in college back in the day.

I know.

Doesn't it like make you so sad?

Yeah.

Something about, I think, the, I think turning 30 and like approaching 30 for everyone is really difficult.

But being in the digital space where it's like the younger you are, the cooler you are.

Yeah.

I'm struggling with it so much.

Like it's killing me.

I had a real hard time turning 30.

And all of my friends who had turned 30 were like, you're being so dramatic.

Like it's, it's fine.

It's the same thing as 29.

I did not think it was the same.

I still hate it.

I do not like being 30.

No, I'm, I'm approaching.

Like I'm having a tough time.

But the one thing my one girlfriend said is she had a hard time turning 30, but she said 30 to 33 is the same.

So you like have a little reprieve for the next year.

You're so old.

Like

the year is so old.

I know.

I swear to God, I just turned 21.

I just turned 21.

How old do you feel if you didn't know you were 29?

That's a good question.

I feel 25, 26, and that's because that's how old I was when the pandemic started.

Oh, interesting.

And I had such good years taken for me.

I entered the pandemic at 25, and by the time it was truly over, I was 28.

Okay, that's interesting.

I would say that I feel 27.

You'd look 27.

Thank you.

Talking about age,

that's like a trigger for me.

Me too.

I don't like that.

I'm so glad you're on the same page because I'm not one of these people.

It's like, age is just over.

It's not.

No, it's not.

It's so old.

Don't you feel like Gen Z like comes way harder at us than we ever came for?

Like, no, I think we came for them too, and now we're getting our comeuppance.

I don't know.

I feel like Gen Z is like really mean.

The way Gen Z like kind of judges, and I don't really like to call myself a millennial.

Yeah.

Because in a way, now I'm not saying I'm

at the very end of millennials.

I'm really close to like being a border.

Okay.

And I'm still not on the border, but I'm just close to the border.

So I don't really like to call myself a millennial.

Like, and I don't, I don't identify with millennials at all I heard someone refer to us as the

spice girl generation and I will now be going by that works for me I love a platform shoe you see spice world the moving

a thousand times did you have nightmares growing up that you would open the toilet and someone's head would pop out yeah I never understood that part like why were they ever at that house no no what was that boot camp

made no fucking sense but I will say I did a um a project in the 10th grade in my physics class about how you had to take a scene from a movie where they do like stunts and like project the velocity based like and see if they if it could actually happen in real life.

Okay.

So you know the scene where they're driving on their big double-decker bus and the London bridge is opening and they jump over the bridge?

I did in my physics class.

Could that actually velocity wise based on the mass of what a typical bus weighs?

Right.

And it obviously could not be done and I got an A.

Wow.

So I had never really gotten an A in anything.

Thank you, posh spice.

Thank you.

So even though the movie made no fucking sense, it did kind of save me in a way.

It also like set the tone of our generation.

it definitely did and there was like iconic luke's and the inside of the bus oh my god all i wanted was that bus all i wanted was that bus with like their little bunk beds and like the fire pole like i wanted that bus so bad yes i love them today's episode is brought to you by top golf Top golf is everything because it's golf, it's not golf, it's top golf.

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okay i'm sure you're keeping abreast with scandival yes As a bravo liberty yourself, do you have any like established relationships with any of the major parties in this saga?

So I texted Ariana.

Oh,

I really like Ariana.

I'm actually, I talk to her best friend a lot.

His name is Logan.

He's like randomly sometimes on the show.

Yeah.

So when it like first happened, I didn't reach out to her because I was just like, that just seems rude.

Overwhelming.

Of course, I texted Logan first.

I was like, what's happening?

Tell me everything.

And it was just, everyone was just so shocked and sad.

And then I did text her and I was like, they did you a favor.

I am so sorry.

Like, I can't imagine.

Did she respond?

Yeah.

And she was like, thank you so much.

That means a lot.

Like, it's just shocking.

Yeah.

And I talked to Sheena a little bit.

She was giving me like a little gossip just how she lived in Sheena's house.

I didn't know that.

Who?

Raquel.

What?

Lived in Sheena's house for a little bit.

That's crazy.

And she was like, she was staying with me, but like having this affair with Tom, like that's just so

insane.

I don't know if there will ever be a day where I get over this.

It's just, okay, then I did hit a point where where I started to feel bad for Raquel because the internet was vicious

because it was, you know, when something happens in Bravo and it's, it's Bravo people.

It's insular.

Yes.

And sometimes I, like, if something happens to me or Craig, Craig will always be like, we, this is niche.

Not everyone knows Bravo.

Like, you got to get out of it.

You have to have perspective.

But then this happened.

I was like, this was on CNN.

Global.

Global news.

Everybody knows about it.

100%.

And so I started having like secondhand anxiety for Raquel.

Yeah.

I was like, how are you even, how could you even be on your phone?

I actually sent her a DM being like, if you need help, like you need to be okay to ask for it.

Like this is not a normal thing people should go through.

No, that's fair.

On social media.

She didn't respond, but I just felt like this overwhelming feeling of like, what if she scared for her?

Yeah, I know.

You know?

The internet.

so fast and so furious.

Yes.

And to be on the receiving end of it, which obviously I don't think anybody's been on the receiving end of what probably Raquel is receiving, but I've been on the receiving end of much smaller versions of it.

It's crippling.

Yeah.

Crippling.

Especially if you're a person, and I assume she is because she's a reality star.

Like you put stock in what other people think about you.

Some people really don't give a shit.

Genuinely.

Yes.

I am not that person.

I am not that person.

I don't think if you go on a reality show, you really are that person.

No.

I don't know if I've heard people like that exist.

I haven't met anyone.

I don't think that that is a real thing.

I think people can have this like really intense false confidence.

Mine like caps at a certain level.

No, I 100%.

And like when people are like, don't look at the comments, I'm like, how?

But I basically have.

I have an Instagram.

I see them.

Like, I

don't know how not see them.

So the story that everyone's talking about, you know, Lala was on

Watch Ravens Live.

Yes.

And she, she, she's one of those people that I feel like really doesn't give a shit.

No, actually, I agree, like, about what people think of her.

But is it false confidence?

I don't know.

I think she, I've been in rooms with her.

I really do feel like she doesn't care.

She walks the walk and she talks the talk.

Yeah, I get that vibe too.

But you never know.

I'm like, how do you do that?

You really never know someone.

No, that's true.

Well, she's teasing like this big conversation that apparently happens in the finale.

She says, you guys are going to die.

There's one conversation in the final episode.

She's sick.

Andy said, confirming, yeah, it's really upsetting.

And apparently what I've read is that at the end, Ariana is having a conversation with Raquel, just kind of confiding in her that like things with Tom are like not good.

And she's like really anxious that he's cheating on her.

And Raquel like sits there and pats her back and is like, no, you're fine.

That's what I read.

I don't know if that's what they're.

teasing.

Wait, that's crazy.

I know.

I feel like, okay, I've met Raquel, I would say maybe

two, three times, always very lovely, always very nice.

I always chalked it up to like, oh, she's a very LA girly.

Like, she does, like, she's very, a little bit air effect.

Yeah, like, she doesn't.

Yeah.

She's very like flower child.

Like, yeah, like, oh my god, hey.

Hippie.

So I actually don't know

if she like gets it.

Like I don't know if she like people are like she has to be a sociopath.

I don't think she's a sociopath.

I think she doesn't know what's happening.

I also think she doesn't really know how to pick up on like any sort of social cues or like I don't think she has any sense of like social decorum and like how things work.

And I've been around people like that and you get mad and then you have to like feel bad because you're like, oh, you don't know what's going on.

You quite literally can't participate in this scenario.

You have no idea what's like at a top level, like what's really going on.

And there's a lot of people on reality TV that are like that.

And honestly, I feel like in a way, maybe it's not on purpose, but it definitely is like a form of protection when you don't really know what the fuck is happening.

That's what I think.

You can't really ever get hurt.

Like, I don't think she's really that hurt by like social media because she doesn't really know.

Yeah.

And I...

I'm sure people around her are instructing her to actually stay off her phone.

Yes.

Even though it's so hard.

Like leave it in the car for the night, take a no from her.

From Drake Bell.

100%.

So random, but this just reminded me.

What are your thoughts on BravoCon now being in Vegas?

They just announced that, right?

Yes.

I, at first, was like, oh, man.

Yeah, that's a lot.

But it's probably good because that's like what Vegas does.

They do conventions.

Like, they know how to do that for thousands and thousands of people.

I felt very claustrophobic having it in New York.

Yeah, I think they...

tapped out in terms of capacity it being in New York.

Like just even in terms of like hotels and stuff.

Yeah, I don't think it was really feasible to go any longer.

And that Saturday night of BravoCon is oh wait did they say the dates oh I don't know okay maybe don't spoil it then what is it I really want to know my birthday oh that sucks then people would know the dates but I guess like being in there are worse places to be than Vegas for your birthday absolutely and Craig gets to be there because he's on Bravo it's actually kind of fun It's like a working day.

It will be fun because I also refused to do anything for my 30th birthday.

Oh, right.

Because it was dark shoes.

You're anxious.

So this will be like my 30th.

Your 29th.

Yeah, this is my 29th birthday.

Happy 29th birthday, cage

okay a little moronic news but i feel like i need to talk about it even though i don't believe it kylie jenner's car has been spotted at timothy chalamay's house after like it was announced on jumois that they were dating yeah so they're adding rumors about their supposed romance her car was in the driveway of his beverly hills home her black range rover pulled up to timothy's sprawling estate on thursday afternoon the internet is going crazy about it her car pulled in from the road it drove straight up the winding driveway basically to his house.

And now people are going back and like looking at footage.

They were both at Paris Fashion Week and nobody thought anything of it, but they appear to be like smiling at each other.

I don't know how everyone knows that like this particular Range Rover belongs to Kylie Jenner, but this does have Chris Jenner written all over it.

So she wants us to know like this is happening.

Yes.

You know, there are like friends that you have where you're like, I just can't picture you ever having sex.

Yes.

Timothy Chalamet or Kylie?

Them together.

I need Timothy Chalamet because he quite literally looks 11.

I can't picture him like behind her.

Like it really throws me for a loop.

Or like I can't really picture him like taking charge.

Yeah, like I can't picture him grabbing her face and making out with her.

Yeah, and I can't imagine like Kylie enjoying that.

I just don't, I don't see it.

Well, Jackie and I talk a lot on the toast about how Kardashians are very much in this flop era.

Yeah.

They're kind of like irrelevant.

And I think very slowly they're doing small things to get back on top.

I think part of that was Kylie, Kendall Jenner and Bad Bunny, which I think was like actually a great, I was really here for her.

I don't know if they're still.

And I think this is a little bit part of that too, like getting associated with like very well-liked people like Ved Money, like Timothy Chalamay.

I'm sorry, I don't know.

There's something so not believable about this.

I think North has like two more years of being a child before Chris Jenner pulls her in for a meeting.

Yeah, no, I think like once her sweet 16 happens, she's officially on the books.

Like she's on the clock.

Like you're Gen Z, you better be reigning Gen Z queen.

And you know, they're kind of setting the scene for North on TikTok.

And Penelope.

Because North and Penelope are similar ages.

They're both like young adults.

No, not young adults.

They're like preteens.

They're like pretty 39.

They're preteens.

They're so fucking advanced.

They're so mature.

Like, when Penelope does her skincare routine, it's 45 steps.

But have you watched North's with like a saint and

Chicago?

Yes.

She's so, I wasn't expecting her to be so nice and like calming and like.

She's a sweetie.

She's so cute.

She's like, okay, Chicago, it's your turn now.

Like, that's so cute.

I feel like she has like kind of a diva.

What's the word I'm looking for?

Persona.

no like people think reputation yeah just because she was like the first for Kim yeah she's like I don't know I just all Kanye yeah right I would just think she's like gonna be a diva and like she doesn't went all black to Easter I know I'm like that's Kanye must but when she speaks I'm like oh man you're not what yeah I thought you would be you're just like a really caring older sister I do feel like Kim not that I know her or anything, but I do feel like she's a good mom.

I know, me too.

Like, I do get those vibes.

I feel like it's all she cares about.

Yeah, and I feel like Chloe is too.

I feel like Courtney's kind of like, do whatever.

Yeah, like, like, there's always like that one cousin that, like, their mom lets them do whatever they want.

Totally.

That's like Mason and Penelope.

Did you watch their Hulu wedding special?

I didn't.

Me neither.

I just didn't care.

But I did think it was really interesting.

I want to pull this up because everyone was like, oh, the girl who's been complaining for years about filming and, you know, having to put her personal life out there is now

doing a spin-off.

I think people were like, and I, that was my reaction on the show.

So I was like, this just seems like a little inauthentic.

I'm also terrified of Alabama Barker.

Oh, yeah.

Like, if she wanted to punch me in the face, I'd say, go for it.

But then yesterday, Courtney posted to promote the wedding thing.

And look at her caption.

It was so long.

She was kind of explaining herself.

So she said, all the footage used in our documentary, Till Death Drew Us Part, is our personal footage that we later decided to edit into a perfect little mini film.

Our Vegas wedding was shot on this.

Our Santa Barbara wedding was shot by our friend.

So when we were asked about filming our wedding.

in Italy, our decision was that we didn't want the show's cameras there.

And I'm so happy with that decision.

We had the iconic Ellen von Unworth Unworth in Italy to help us capture moments.

She's just basically explaining there were no show cameras there, it was just standard wedding videographers that they then turned into some sort of wedding special.

Okay, so she had to explain herself.

Yeah, they must have

read the wrong caption.

Me neither.

I'm not reading that whole thing, and I didn't read the whole thing the first time around either.

I just can't.

If you can't say it in like 400 characters or less, then maybe it's not worth saying.

No, literally, it's not worth saying.

People that like write

who has the time, like, oh my my God, this is our like two-year anniversary.

And like all these things.

If Craig ever wrote a caption that was more than two sentences about me, I would send a breakup text.

Okay, I will say there is only one instance where you can write as long as you want and that's when you're commemorating a death.

Okay, I agree with you.

Because they're really upset.

I mean, a person can only cannot be limited to a caption.

I'm not coming for that.

No, so if you died, Craig could write however long.

For sure.

But until then, as long as you're kicking, two sentences or less.

But if he also did R.I.P.

dude, I'd be fine.

That's also what me and Jackie are always saying, like, social media has kind of made like commemorating the deaths of people so weird because people will just be like, rip.

Yeah, like that.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Yeah.

No.

No, that's really beautiful.

Thank you for taking the time.

You don't even capitalize all the I and the P, it's just rip.

It's kind of just.

It makes me uncomfy.

I know.

Okay, Fifth and Final Story is kind of probably like the most boronic thing you've ever heard in your life.

Another fire festival is happening, says con artist and convicted felon Billy McFarland.

Oh my god.

He is promising that there's going gonna be a fire festival too.

He tweeted, Fire Festival 2 is finally happening.

Tell me why you should be invited.

Do you want him to date Anna Delvey?

I mean, it's too obvious.

Like, it's too perfect.

I mean, now that is a reality show I would watch.

Yeah, but she can't leave her house, so he's gonna have to spend a lot of time.

Yeah, have you been invited to any of her like socialite dinner parties at her house?

She's been doing this thing.

No.

She's been doing like underground like supper club where she can't leave her house, so she has people come to her house.

And it's like, you know, interesting, influential people people in different in the arts and sports or whatever if you got in have you been invited if you got invited would you go a hundred percent you would yeah and i believe you can't film but like i will be wearing spywear all over my office see i don't know i can't even go to like influencer events unless i know at least two people going totally so like i don't think i could go to that by myself but it's a once-in-a-lifetime chance like it's something you would tell your grandchildren about you'd have to go i mean her vogue photo shoot on her roof was iconic yeah i was surprised they let her go to the roof i thought you couldn't really leave like the perimeter of your building building apartment.

I'm just very fascinated by her.

Yeah.

Did you watch Inventing Anna?

Yeah, of course.

Oh, the reason I brought up this Fire Festival thing is because like as an influencer, it's very possible that like the first go-around, you could have been asked and paid to have promoted it.

Yes.

First of all, that was before you were on Bravo, right?

I can't remember.

How long ago was it?

2000.

It was a while ago.

I want to say it was before.

It was the, or I had like done my first summer.

Yeah, like I had been.

Like I wasn't getting invited anyway.

Well, I had been influencing at the time and I was like, now I look back and I'm like, thank God, like I, if somebody would have offered to pay me, I would have been like, yeah, sure, promote a music festival.

Like, I had a group of friends who legitimately bought tickets and went away.

Really?

And we're stuck in the Bahamas.

No.

Yeah.

And we're trying to get like private planes.

Like,

were they a part of like the class action lawsuit?

I don't think they like did anything.

I know someone, actually, it's like someone Ben knows who was a part of the class.

He was like one of like the actual like victims.

And he was a part of the class action.

And he does not talk about it.

I think he got a shit ton of money.

He doesn't talk about it, but it's because it's private.

Wow.

I know.

Where's Ja Rule?

What's he think?

The thing is about Ja Rule, in his words, he was hoodwinked and bamboozled.

And we've all been there.

Yeah, no, we really have.

No, and like for me, especially with some things like work-wise, I'm just like, yeah, I don't read it.

I'm like, yeah, sure.

So I could totally, like, I can understand Ja Rule's position.

I really can.

Yeah, I can too.

I cannot understand Billy McFarlane's position.

I can't believe there's anyone that's like teaming up with him to do it again.

To me, like, and this is how the world is so small.

One of my favorite things is like Mike the Situation was actually in prison with Billy McFarlane.

He met him.

Like, that's just why being a fan of pop culture is so incredible.

I know.

I love that.

I know.

Nobody gives Jersey Shore the credit they deserve for being on television for almost 20 years.

The toast does.

Do they?

Oh, I'm just doing it.

Thank you for doing the Lord's work.

I rewatch a show.

Every couple of years.

It's the best show ever.

Like, those early seasons are.

Yes.

I'm sorry.

No reality show can compare.

I was a senior in high school when it first came out, and it shaped everything about my college years.

Yep, it was my whole personality.

It was my entire.

We had a famous people party in a senior year in high school, and I went as Snookie and I made my boyfriend go as Mike the Situation.

It was the best night of my life.

I still think about it.

So, similarly, I mean, I went to a Jewish day school and it came out when I was in the 10th grade.

So, for Purim, I dressed up as Snookie.

Yep.

And I also ran for student government.

I did lose, but my campaign was GTL, gym, Torah, and learning.

And I made posters with my face like cropped into snookies.

I was obsessed.

That's amazing.

I've always loved her.

Like she is the show for me.

She is, she will go down in history as one of the most legendary reality stars.

And no one gives her credit that she's still married to Gianni.

And they all doubted.

Doubters, none of them.

They're like, you're being crazy, whatever.

You messed up.

He broke up with you.

And then them getting married.

I just, I love that.

I mean, that Florence season when he was so fucking toxic and she was just running home from the club every night to get on that duck phone like remember when Mike banged his head into the wall.

I mean the concrete wall like these people were not fucking normal and they're still on TV.

I know they have the reunion show.

I don't watch it but people like it.

I haven't watched it since they left

the shore.

No, but did you ever watch Stunky and Jay Wow's spin-off?

Yes.

Where they lived in that firehouse?

You know what?

Oh my God, that was just a core memory for me.

It got renewed.

It's coming back.

And they're moving in together?

I don't think they're going to be moving in together, but they got their own spin-off again.

Okay.

I think they should have one.

That was the, and they were pregnant.

She was, one of them was pregnant when they were living in the firehouse.

Yes.

Yes.

And they went to some restaurant where the people would scare you.

And that's like all I remember from one of the episodes.

And it was just like this random firehouse in New Jersey.

I feel connected to them because I feel like they met on the show and became really good friends.

And that's how I feel with Hannah.

Yeah.

Like.

Something you're doing this very weird thing that no one can really relate to like you're my lifeline and then there's no like breaking that bond who is the snookie and who is the jaywow between you and hannah i think

i would say that i'm probably the jaywow and she's the snookie i would agree yeah because i can get more mad than hannah

like will

jaywow is fucking scary like i will i would never cross her is from where i'm from she's from albany she's from um like a town over i think and she went to a high school called columbia high school Oh my god, that's iconic.

And I was like, oh.

Icons only coming from Albany.

Who's like a famous alumni from your high school?

Besides you?

No one from my high school, but Jimmy Fallon went to my college, which was in Albany.

Where did you go to college?

It was called the College of St.

Rose.

Yeah, if I went to NYU, and like every famous person went to NYU, so like, doesn't count.

But Natasha Leone did go to my high school.

Who is that?

She's obviously not really famous.

Did you ever watch Orange is a New Black?

Yes.

The blonde girl.

Oh, okay.

crazy hair.

Yes.

And Man Repeller.

I don't see her as a Natasha.

I know.

I don't see her as a Jew.

Yeah.

I went to a Jewish school.

I didn't know that she was Jewish.

Yeah.

And Man Rappeller.

Okay.

She went to my high school as well.

She's kind of like, and a few people who now, like, I don't know, like work in politics.

I troll the like famous alumni portion of my school's Wikipedia page.

Yeah.

Nobody has added me, and it's devastating.

Oh my God.

I just went and had to talk at my college.

That's so exciting.

It was so exciting, but I was so nervous because I was like, this is like a very professional setting.

Did you speak to a class?

They set up like a little stage and like

classes would come and random people would come and I was so nervous.

Just like my time in college and like how I went from like that to being on reality TV, which I like.

I lied about it.

Was it a moderated?

It's so important to constantly be lying.

Was it a moderated conversation?

Yes, there was a professor like asking me questions and he had to listen to giggly squad episodes.

Oh, that's a good one.

And this is like a, I mean, this man was like in his 50s.

He was like a true.

Not your target demo.

Yeah, not my target demo.

And he was like, I am a giggler.

Thank you.

And I was like, I love you.

Deceased.

Oh, my God.

Well, Paggy,

it's been absolutely delightful having you.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you

for breaking down the stories with passion and vigor.

And it just, it's exciting to talk to somebody who is as excited about like nothing as I am, you know?

And the bad.

So where can everyone follow you?

They want to to keep up.

Paige underscore Disorbo is my Instagram.

Does somebody own Paige Disorbo without the underscore?

I don't know.

But I liked having the space.

Oh, okay.

So that was a personal choice.

Same as my Instagram or same as my TikTok.

And then Giggly Squad is every Tuesday.

Every Tuesday.

And the clips are killing it.

I'm cackling at the clips.

Well, we were watching your clip, your guys' clips, and we were like, they're so good.

Like, we need to be more clips.

Clips are everything.

Clips are everything.

I love clips.

I'll clip some stuff.

Maybe I'll clip this.

Sometimes that's our show, you guys.

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We are.

Hope you guys have a great weekend.

Stay safe, and we'll see you on Monday.

Bye.

Have you ever done an auction?

Bye for you.

No, I haven't, but I really should.

I know.

No, you really could.

That could be your talent.