Jax With The Facts: Thursday, March 16th, 2023

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Thursday.

Happy Thursday, everyone.

Hey, Jax.

How are you?

I'm good.

Knowing that it's Thursday, knowing that we're cruising downhill into the latter half of the week, it's encouraging.

It's encouraging.

Ask me how I am.

How are you?

I'm amazing.

I'm

inclab.

Would you like to share why?

I would.

After months of uncertainty, weeks of agony, your girl has finally secured Taylor Swift tickets for one of the shows.

I said I wanted to go in Nashville because Nashville is iconic.

It's the weekend of Margo's birthday.

We want it to go big.

As of this morning, this morning, we got our tickets.

Now I'm still...

Got nothing for MetLife.

And my MetLife seats are the seats I want to be like really close and see everything.

The Nashville, I don't really care.

But I'm, oh,

living on a prayer.

Take my hand and we'll make it our three.

Yeah, it's very exciting.

We got our ticks.

The fam is going.

The fam is going.

I need to, you know, plan my weekend, plan my outfits.

Oh my God, same.

I thought I was going to be just coming with one outfit, let alone two.

Oh, well, yeah, for your second excursion.

But no, I just need one.

But I'm not going to get too hung up on it.

Like, we're going to be in a box with our girlies.

Yeah.

It's a judgment-free zone.

No, and like, I wasn't sure everyone would be down.

Like, when we started the group chat this morning, I'm like, are we really doing this?

And everyone was like, yes, yes.

Can I bring my husband?

Can I bring my best friend?

I'm like, yeah, the more people, the merrier.

Like, it brings the cost down.

Like, please invite, invite your neighbor, invite your accountant, invite literally the man who works at the bodega.

Like, anyone can come.

As long as they're paying.

Oh, yeah.

No, this isn't in a a charity oh no

no like i'm so excited i cannot believe like i just i'm always having these big ideas you know and then like they never happen and then like i'm sitting at home and i'm like oh yeah this was supposed to be the weekend i was gonna go to nashville but it's the year of yes and we got it done yeah so now we just got a plan Now we got a plan like weekend in Nashville.

That's also just like baseline, even without the concert.

So exciting.

I love a girls' weekend in Nashville and the husbands are coming.

Like it's exciting.

Yeah.

The husbands are coming.

We We were just talking about that.

Like, we're not sure.

I'm not sure.

Because we don't have space for everyone's husband.

No, not everyone's husband.

No, it's going to be like a first.

Hopefully, hopefully we're overwhelmed with people who want to bring their, you know, friends and husbands so that we really fill every seat in the box and then everyone's cost goes down.

And I feel like maybe this would be a good opportunity to punish Ben for what he did to you.

Oh my God, that would be so mean.

Actions have consequences.

I have been like the planner.

I secured, like, I did everything and my husband doesn't come.

That's so mean.

I would never do that actions have consequences how will he learn i would never he wouldn't even learn like he would just hate me how are you gonna teach him everybody saw the photo you posted it in the reel we did we posted the meets it was jarring and people are not okay

it's not sitting well and we need a plan of action we cannot let this go unpunished turdy but i will have more fun i would also be punishing myself like i would not be like be having so much fun if like everyone's there with their husband and like ben's at home because i'm being like treating him like a child For sure, but we could also keep it a girly weekend.

We could.

We should discuss it in the chat.

We should discuss it in the chat, like most things.

It's a democracy.

Jackie, take it to the chat.

The box is a democracy.

It's a debacracy.

It's a box.

Yeah.

So that's just like a major update in our lives, which is the point of the show.

Yeah.

And considering all of the

turmoil about tickets in the past,

it's good to share the good news as well.

Yeah, and that, you know, the Swifty community could be happy for us.

I don't know that they'll be happy because

the toaster community will be happy for us, but the Swifty community, they'll start, you know, with like, well,

they're not really deserving.

They're not real fans.

Jackie said this one time on the show.

It's every Swifty for themselves in this life.

And you know what?

I subscribe to that.

Like, you know, I'm always looking out for number one.

Yeah, the other Swifties didn't get you tickets.

So true.

They weren't really.

Actually, your place.

I had too.

The Toaster Swifties.

Every time I talk about, you know,

my lack of seats, I've gotten a million DMs from people like, I have an extra seat in Houston, Tampa.

It's never been like a city I plan to go to.

If somebody literally said MetLife, like, I'm there.

Yeah, I was invited to Tampa.

Oh, you, by the way, I was actually thinking you should go to Tampa.

It's far.

It's really far.

And the drive from like Tampa to South Florida is one long, dark highway.

I think they call it like Crocodile Alley or something.

I drove it in the middle of the night and I almost ran out of gas.

And then

when I was in Clearwater for my show and then heading to Fort Lauderdale after my show, I was like, oh, it's a three hour drive.

Let's not spend the night in Clearwater.

Let's just drive.

She was wrong.

Literally, we had no gas left.

We're driving on this forlorn, endless, pitch black highway.

Nothing in sight.

Nothing in sight.

It's

a reservation like land.

So it's just these miles and miles of forest.

Like that's it.

It's like a little scary.

It's dark.

There's no civilization.

Thank God.

Literally, like, I think we had maybe like 10 or 20 miles left in our gas tank that there was actually quite lovely, gorgeous, brand new gas station with like snacks.

And we got gas.

And I felt, you know, it's like a mirage.

I'm like, this isn't a real gas station.

It's, it's my eyes playing tricks on me.

But if I didn't see that gas station, like, I might not be here today.

No, you would just like have parked on the side of the road.

Wait until morning, triple-A would come.

You'd still be here.

That's just like the beginning of every cautionary tale they ran out of gas you were with a big group no it was just me and one other person really i thought that that was the show that family went to no no no they came to fort lauderdale but nobody made the trip to clearwater so it was me and lizzie one other woman uh-oh on the side of the road that's what i have given

that's how every story starts they pulled over for help never seen again yeah goodbye turdy lou goodbye turdy lou thank you good day turdy lou no like every i feel like this happens to everyone.

Like, they have a few stories in their life where, like, in hindsight, they realize like how close they were to potential danger.

That happens to me a lot.

And like, those stories keep me up at night, like, how I could be so irresponsible and not get gas.

But I didn't know that we were about to embark on this.

It's like a famous highway.

It never ends and there's nothing on it.

Right.

So I won't be going to the Tampa show is what you're saying.

So if you're making the journey to Tampa from South Florida, like Miami, Fort Lauderdale, you have to take that highway.

And just know, be prepared.

Bring snacks.

Have a full tank.

Yeah.

Do it during the day.

Like, it was good.

Those are just good tips for a road trip anyway.

Yeah, I guess.

But like, with road trips, it's like getting gas is all part of the fun, you know, except when you drive with me and I flush our keys down the toilet by accident.

We end up stranded in Connecticut.

But that was just like a me thing.

There's worse places to be than Connecticut, but still.

No, it was broad daylight.

Still.

It was broad daylight.

We are at like a very busy highway and a very busy rest stop.

Like, I didn't feel scared.

I felt fucking annoyed.

Annoyed.

Oh, my God.

Like, that was one of the worst days of my life.

Just be

so grateful that the car was unlocked and we could get our stuff.

I just also, another like added layer of that story is when we woke up that morning in Rhode Island to make our journey home, my like throat was starting to hurt.

And I might have just been like hungover and tired.

But like, you know, it was during those times when you just like felt like you had COVID.

And I was like sitting there just like, let me get home.

Like I feel like I might have COVID and like I'm getting everyone sick.

I didn't have COVID, but that one, I was like already not feeling well.

And then we're making such good time.

Oh man, I'm driving like an animal, like so fast.

It's like a four or five hour drive.

I was was getting us there in literally three and a half.

I was making sickening time.

We stopped to take a piss, get a snack.

I'm peeing.

The car keys fall in the toilet.

I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to have to stick my hand in this toilet.

Next thing I know, automatic flush.

My day was fucking ruined.

That, we have an episode, a podcast episode about it.

I think the podcast episode was called Extremely Hasty Flush.

If you're new here, it's one of our best episodes telling the story.

Go enjoy it.

Check that out.

It's a crazy story.

Oh, look at you rubbing your belly.

I know it's a big belly.

Me too, but at least you have like a reason.

Yours isn't so big.

No, actually, I still have like a pretty big belly.

And like I'm not.

Not really.

We all saw that olive shirt yesterday.

Thanks, Selena.

Yeah, I was wearing like a skin-tight shirt yesterday, which I do not do.

And some of you might notice my arms were in front of my stomach the entire time and my legs were crossed.

My knee was so high up just to cover my stomach.

Lady tings.

No, just like life things.

Oh my god.

And that's why you look like a lady.

I I am a lady.

You're a lad.

Oh, so true.

She read me to filth, but like, can you be mad when it's true?

No.

No, no.

Or when it's just like so punchy.

You can't be mad.

Yeah, you can't.

No, you can't be mad when somebody like makes a joke at your expense, but it's such a good joke.

It's like you want to be offended, but you're overwhelmed by the feeling of respect

for the person's joke.

Yeah.

That's the way to do it.

That's so true.

That's the way to do it.

You have to respect women in comedy.

That's the truth.

So we've got a good show because last night was Vanderpump Rolls and I have never really seen an episode of TV that made me feel so many things.

And you would think it would be because of what's, you know, gone on in the last couple of weeks with Scandival, but like, honestly, it has, my feelings have nothing to do with Scandal.

No, we have to judge the episode on its face.

And it's actually surprising what conclusions you come away with.

It's surprising what conclusions you come away with.

And I actually can't recall in recent memory an episode of any show, reality, where a person came off as bad as Lala Kent did in last night's episode.

It might be one of the worst episodes for any reality star in history.

I concur.

And, you know, I'm a huge Lala girly, but I know.

Like, this is not a great season for her.

No, I can't wait to dive into it.

And I'm sure we have some Vanderpump news too because Ariana final.

And then the final story, Vanderpump, we'll go into TV recap, rewatch what what happens live.

Also,

so without further ado, let's get into the fast five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story.

Eyebrow gate explained.

Kylie Cosmetics announced this morning that they have their new Kylash mascara dropping imminently, which answers a lot of people's dumb fucking questions about why Kylie and Haley were showing their eyebrows.

Were they making fun of Selena?

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, is that the end of the story?

That's the news.

The Kylashes are dropping.

Oh, and I fucking told you.

Yeah, I feel really good about where we landed on this.

You had the inclination that she was launching a mascara.

I did not.

But, you know, even if you didn't know that, like, I just think it's so important not to assume the worst in people.

There is a Bible verse.

Have Dan lecha Schut.

Always give people the benefit of the doubt.

So if your natural like inclination is just to be like, oh, they were making fun of Selena.

Like Selena's a victim.

Like I need to defend Selena.

I need to bully Haley and Kylie.

Like maybe you should look inward in this moment because you were wrong.

You look like clowns.

And let's just not always like jump to conclusions.

Now, a lot of people who have seen this are offering rebuttals just to kind of justify their bullying of these young women.

They say, one, Kylie and Chris definitely just decided to launch a mascara.

And that's how big business works.

They just decided to launch a mascara to prove that there was something just to save face.

Now, formulating a product packaging takes months.

Getting a trademark, what's the name of the mascara?

Kylash.

Right.

I believe you could look it up.

She's had the mascara for the trademark, excuse me, for a very long time.

So that line of thinking is just ill-informed and silly.

And again, you look like clowns.

No, and also one month ago, Kylie posted, before the things with Haley, she posted a carousel on her Instagram of her eyes where she's wearing heavy mascara.

She literally has a mascara wand on her eyelash and the caption is new Kylie cosmetics coming soon.

Like, I'm sorry, it doesn't take Albert Einstein to put together that she's dropping a mascara.

But even Albert Einstein would know that she is dropping a mascara.

Of course.

He's not masculine.

And then the other.

The other, you know, line of thinking, people rebutting this saying, well, you know, this is actually, I don't believe that they were promoting the mascara because this FaceTime photo, like Haley's lashes look bad and she doesn't even look like she's wearing mascara.

I don't think they were trying to show that Hailey was wearing the mascara.

They're just trying to show like eyes.

Like something's coming for the eyes.

Was it a FaceTime photo that made the

it was like, yeah, it was a screenshot of a FaceTime where they're both showing their eyes.

So Kylie's

up close with her eyes.

She's definitely wearing mascara and Haley is not.

You can go to my Instagram.

I have the screenshot right there.

Oh, you do?

Okay.

I want to see exactly what was posted.

Oh, I see.

Cause I thought that maybe Kylie and Haley were doing one of their videos together for Kylie's YouTube channel or for Haley's bathroom.

I mean, or both.

I thought that that's what they were doing.

I thought they were together and

that Kylie and Haley were filming one of Kylie's like, get ready with me using our new Kylash.

And that's why they were posting it.

Also, maybe they should.

That's a great idea.

I hope that they do do that.

Yeah.

They should run and do one now and also a.

in my bathroom with Haley.

I just think like we really as a society need to take a look inward into how, you know, you all acted these last couple of weeks.

Like the relentless, they really let up on Kylie because Selena commented like, no, I love Kylie.

No, because they live for Kylie.

They only are interested in Haley and Selena.

Right.

So

they really.

And it's still, I still see all over my TikTok and my Twitter and my Instagram, relentless bullying, saying Hailey Bieber looks like an ear, like making fun of her, her business, her looks, her family.

Like, my God, all for what?

A mascara now.

That's what you all did.

Like, I seriously, I think this is a teachable moment for people.

I, and I know they won't because the internet never learns, but everyone who engaged in this type of, you know, online harassment and bullying, like, I really hope you take a look inward to see how fucking stupid and mean you are.

They won't, especially if they're still justifying it.

So let me get this shit.

Share things that were posted that meant that Haley and Kylie were making fun of Selena.

The eyes, FaceTime.

Reducing.

And then Kylie had done a TikTok.

Selena had done a TikTok like a week before, like showing her makeup.

And she was like zoomed in on her eyebrows.

She overly laminated her eyebrows and said, I accidentally overlay laminated.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they had their eyes just at Haley Bieber.

And then a picture of Kylie close up that says, this was an accident.

So between the word accident and the fact that there was an eye and an eyebrow, this is, you know, bullying.

But the reason why I thought they were making a video is because when Kylie posted this is an accident question mark, it's in front of her pink yeah

youtube videos maybe there is a video coming to support the launch of this mascara yeah and maybe haley is lending her celebrity to kylie's cause we don't know but even still these these people are crazy and they will never concede that they were wrong no and they're crazy and it's easy to just you know

dismiss them but when you think about like the real implications like look haley bieber has definitely seen all of what people are saying about her like this is a human being.

And it went beyond just like funny meme internet culture.

Like, it went to really dark, mean places.

And

I think it's wrong.

And I don't, I don't, you know,

what's the word I'm looking for?

I don't, um,

hmm, what's the word I'm looking here for?

What are you trying to say?

It's not associate, but like, I don't relate to my generation.

and of the internet in this way at all.

Yeah.

And, you know, when you think about who the Jelena stands are, like, these are people our age because we were, we were young.

Yes.

So we think Jelena stands are like 12, but we were 12 when they were Jelena.

And now we're all grown up.

So these are grown-ass women.

No, Jelena stanhood is definitely a mental illness, but I agree.

There's also like the people who just like keep talking about this story, like even, you know, commentators and I'm sure like on TikTok, it's like explainer channels where they like gossip.

Where they give credence to these actual

conspiracy theories.

Hallucinations.

Hallucinations.

Yes.

There's that.

And then there's also Selena, who fed into this thing the entire time.

And if the entire time she never said a peep about instead of playing a victim, it wouldn't have, that's just like gasoline on the fire for the people who will do anything to help Selena.

And to get attention from Selena.

Yeah.

Oh, Selena will comment on my video if I'm really feeling sorry for her.

And like destroying two other women.

Yeah, no, I like there is

she bears responsibility, and I, she does.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, she does.

This is so, this got so out of control, and it's still going on.

It's not even like a motherfucker.

So, man, Justin Bieber performed at a festival and they were chanting like fuck Haley in the crowds.

It's like, oh, you're taking this shit into real life.

You're not embarrassed.

Another level of mental illness.

Yeah.

This was such a terrible.

Honestly, it gives me a pit.

Such a, look what the internet can do so fast with no proof, no nothing.

My God, imagine if people put their energy toward worthy causes.

We would be a perfect society.

Or toward their own lives.

Maybe they would be healed.

Toward their own lives.

Maybe they would be healed, Turdy Lou.

Maybe they would be healed, Turdy Lou.

But maybe not.

Maybe not.

This is just like a very upsetting saga series of events.

Yeah, but I do hope, like, I'm never, even if, even if it is, you know, people feel justified and rightfully so, I'm just never going to be the type of person to like hop on a bandwagon and like start destroying people.

Like even with this Raquel thing, it's crazy and I'm like eating it up.

But like people are calling her, like even Chloe Feynman called her a filthy whore on Watch Rappin's Live.

Like it was kind of crazy.

And you know, she, she's in the wrong Raquel.

Like there is justifiable anger towards her.

I'm just personally never going to be the type of person to like hop on a bandwagon of internet culture.

And now

to see how wrong everyone was.

Like there's no repercussions for that sort of behavior because it's anonymous internet activity.

Yeah.

It's terrible.

Yeah.

No, you have to.

It's like Ariel Charnis.

You have to like keep it in mind that these are people.

And I know this Raquel thing, it's just like on another level.

Yeah.

And what she did was so wrong.

So people really do feel so justified because it's like, well, I'm, she's in the wrong and I'm in the right.

But it's like, get your own life.

I know.

Like, I, like,

it reminds me a lot of the Ariel Charnis thing, like how Everyone got so bent out of shape.

People literally saying, I was at Polo Bar.

I saw Brandon Charnis getting arrested.

There's no accountability when shit like that ends up being completely untrue.

That's different.

But yeah.

Yeah.

It's just like the whole message of like internet culture having no accountability.

And these things just happen and they have real life repercussions.

And then things just move on and people never get their justice.

Yeah.

It's like, it's so unfair.

No, they get their justice like 15 years later when we look back on old clips, you know, just like with like all those old interviews of like Lindsay Lowe and saying, I can't believe that's the way we treated young girls.

Look how you're treating Haley Haley Bieber.

Like, what's the difference?

She's so right.

She's so right.

What's the difference?

It's just, you know, new clothes.

Yeah.

Same message.

New clothes.

So true.

Are you ready for our next story?

Someone who's always trying to better themselves and is always being knocked down along the way, though we'll never stop her.

Who?

Gwyneth Paltrow.

Oh, I have so many thoughts on her.

Reveal

the weirdest wellness trends she's tried, and she is getting a lot of

backlash for her habits.

Gwyneth has done some of the wackiest things in the name of wellness, but the weirdest one, according to her, apparently involved her rectum.

During an appearance on the Art of Being Well podcast, she revealed

a dear media podcast making waves.

She revealed that she has used ozone therapy rectally.

It's pretty weird, but it's been very helpful.

According to Healthline, ozone therapy refers to the process of administering ozone gas into your body to treat a disease or wound.

However, the process is not regulated, and in 2019, the FDA claimed it was a toxic gas with no known useful medical application.

The FDA also claimed that Oxycontin was not addictive.

Less than 1% of patients get addicted, which is important to know.

The FDA claims a lot of stuff.

No motherfucking lies were motherfucking told, bitch.

How can we trust the FDA after

we've seen dope sick?

No, and it's not just the one thing.

Like, oh,

oh, oh.

Got him.

Got him.

Gwynneth went on to break down her wellness routine with the host Will Cole, all while

administering herself an IV.

She said, I love an IV.

I'm an early IV adopter, noting that she specifically loves two types of IV drips.

I can't pronounce them.

So she said they're quite hard to find and those make me feel so good.

Aside from that, she said she practices intermittent fasting until around noon when she finally eats something that won't spike her blood sugar, like soup or bone broth.

Then she gets in one hour of movement from Pilates or walking before starting her post-workout routine.

After dry brushing in her infrared sauna for 30 minutes, she has a paleo dinner with lots of vegetables to support her detox.

So the backlash she's receiving is not really about the ozone therapy.

It's about eating bone broth as a meal.

Yes.

It's about doing Tracy Anderson and paleo, following paleo restrictions.

No, and basically they say starving herself.

What are you detoxing if you're only having ever like bone broth and veggies?

Right.

And the backlash has basically been, this isn't wellness.

This is toxic diet culture.

So I just want to know, and I'm ready for everyone to disagree with me.

This is going to be a hot take, unpopular opinion.

Why the fuck do you care?

Sure, let's say some of the stuff she's doing is toxic diet culture, even though I don't think

because she chooses to do Tracy Anderson, like that makes it toxic diet culture.

Like doing a soul cycle is not toxic diagram.

What's going on with Tracy Anderson?

In the Zen.

No, it's just, it's just like a trendy, you know, workout.

Like, it's considered toxic diet culture.

Isn't she just like gossiping around?

Yeah, no, because it's a workout.

Oh, because working out is toxic.

Yeah.

Like,

who fucking cares?

Gwyneth Poucher did not get on this podcast and say, this is what everyone should do, and you're all fat slobs if you don't.

She was asked what she does, and this is what she does.

You don't like it?

Don't do it.

Don't listen to the podcast.

Like, the way this has blown up, and you know who actually had a very good take, and I don't think I've said these words in a while?

Bethany Frankel.

She's, you know, she's always making takes on TikTok and they're making waves.

She was like, literally, who fucking cares?

Yeah.

And then there's the argument, like, what is this saying for girls?

So you know what?

You have a daughter.

Tell her not to watch this.

You teach her differently.

It's not Gwyneth Paltrow's job to teach your children anything.

It's your job, bitch.

Yours.

Yeah.

I would also say that one Gwyneth Paltrow is is like a guinea pig for wellness I think she tries all these things that she can be an expert on them for her site I'm sure she's tried a lot of stuff that didn't work or do anything and doesn't write about but then she's done things that she then espouses like vaginal steaming and some of the other quirkier things but like that's her business and that's her brand i also would say the proof is in the pudding like this woman looks amazing and she's one of the few people in hollywood who's letting herself age naturally And the only thing that she's doing that's anti-aging are these natural remedies that, yes, seem extreme to you, but like what you'd rather just having her injecting herself full of chemicals, that's not extreme.

Like it's all everyone does has some sort of regimen that they follow.

I think Gwyneth looks amazing.

She's clearly extremely healthy.

Like I'm not saying this is for everyone.

Also, not everyone can afford to do this, has the time to spend their whole day worried about wellness, what they're putting into their body and how their body is like physically moving.

But that is actually her job.

Her business.

Yeah.

By the way, you are just like straight facts today, Jax.

Jax with the facts.

Jack's with the facts.

And like, there are all different kinds of lifestyles that are promoted on podcasts, on TikTok, on Instagram.

Everybody finds their beat.

Like, there are people for whom this is for.

By the way, that's so true.

I feel like there's a lot of discourse around like body positivity and like, you know, accepting all

sizes.

And I love that, but it's obviously on the heavier spectrum.

Yes.

But really at its core, body positivity is accepting all bodies and all lifestyles.

So why is, while yes, you know, she's extreme on the other end, why is that not acceptable?

Right.

No, that's a good point.

And even if you just take like one, I mean, not that you need to take anything from her interview, but even if you were just like, hmm, maybe I've been

intermittent fasting.

Maybe I should then break my fast with something that won't spike my blood sugar.

I would never have thought.

I would have been like, bagel.

You know?

Yeah, right.

Like sugar.

You don't have to then spend your whole day intermittent fast, bone broth, Tracy Anderson, paleo dinner.

Like, she's doing all these things to give recommendations to her audience, which by the way, there is an audience for this.

Tend to it.

Do it the way you will.

If you follow Gwyneth Paltrow on social media, which I do, and it's one of my favorite pastimes,

she is always cooking.

Like, she eats.

And it's obviously not anything I would ever eat.

It's like grains and veggies and eggs.

cooks and eats a lot.

Like, I don't think this is a malnourished human being.

Yes, it sounds extreme, but she was literally asked, what are things that you do for this?

Was the question.

And again, she didn't endorse anything for anyone else.

It's just, that's, it's just so crazy to, like, ask someone a question and then, like, attack them for their own.

They're not hurting anyone.

Yeah.

Well, it's not like the interview attacked her.

No, your habits are wrong, but.

But you tuned into it.

No, and like, if

she clearly has such a big following, she has such a big business.

She was just on Shark Tank.

Like, to act like she doesn't know a little bit what she's talking about and that she's just like this fringe person starving herself and that's just not the case.

Yeah, no, I think everybody really needs to relax.

I'm not into this attack on on people's lifestyle when it comes to diet and I'm not a person who's ever been particularly fond of diets, but like it's people's choice.

Like everyone is just trying to better themselves and no one has all the answers really.

Everyone, even if someone's not trying to better themselves, okay, like you want to go like shoot up crack?

I don't care.

Like what is this mentality of people being so obsessed with other people's choices?

Like, that's never going to be me, ever.

Like, that's my philosophy for everything.

Like, you're doing something to yourself, and I would never do it.

Live your life, bestie.

Like, I am never going to get so bent out of shape about what someone else is doing, what someone else's choice that doesn't affect me.

Yeah.

I will never care.

Of course.

I will never care.

Of course.

Get a life.

Yeah.

Focus on you.

She also winds up being really on the cutting edge of stuff.

So I would maybe take heed.

But no, like even like the, I mean, vaginal steaming, I don't know where that's gone.

But I remember like she had her show on Netflix and she was talking about like the Wim Hoff method where it's like a cold plunge.

Do you see everyone with a fucking ice bath in their backyard now that they get at home depot?

100%.

100%.

No, and she talked about this on Char Tank.

She was like years, maybe 10 years ago, like they were writing on the blog about gluten-free and people were like, that's so crazy.

That's so crazy.

That's so crazy.

Now you literally can't walk into a grocery store without being attacked by gluten-free products.

I know.

And now it's all about grain-free, she said.

And by the way, that's not to say everything she talks about is going to be that next thing.

But we have to give her a little bit of respect.

For sure.

And I just don't feel like, like, I don't understand why if I don't have a gluten intolerance, I need to be gluten-free.

No.

And no one's properly explained that to me.

No, I also feel like people who are gluten-free, like are fine.

Like, they're actually not like, man, some people make it for health choices.

Like, sure, I love that.

But people are saying they have a gluten intolerance when like their whole life they were completely fine.

I'm suspicious.

Yeah, grew up on like peanut butter jelly sandwiches.

Right.

Celiac Celiac is different.

Like you have an actual medical like

intolerance.

Like I get that.

But people who just like make up that they're gluten-free, like, okay, I just feel like it's people trying to be interesting.

Yeah, or a healthy, but I don't, I don't understand.

Maybe there are health benefits.

They haven't been communicated to me well enough in order for me to be convinced.

Cause, you know, I'm always open to bettering myself.

I am Turtle Lou.

You are.

I am.

And why can't I have a grain?

What's wrong with grains?

You know what, actually?

I, you know, obviously I feel like for a lot of us, like the millennial kind of Gwyneth Paltrow vibe is Lauren Bostic.

Like she's always sharing wellness.

And I took a wellness tip from her and it has changed my life.

Actually,

it's like so dumb and it's not like anything actually.

Like, I don't even know if you could be considered wellness, but I bought a tongue scraper.

That sounds wellness.

Jackie, you have to get one.

Wait, why?

What does it do?

When I brush my teeth in the morning, I also just scrape my tongue.

With a toothbrush?

No, with a tongue scraper.

Okay.

And I have brushed my tongue with a toothbrush many, many times over my life.

You would die if you saw the stuff that comes out of my tongue in the morning.

It's like so much phlegm.

Where do you get it?

Amazon?

Amazon.

It's,

I'm telling you, I feel different.

And you know, I'm always telling you, like, I'm waking up with a sore throat, like whatever.

I feel different.

I scrape my tongue before bed and after I wake up.

Changed my life.

Shout out Lauren Bostick.

Like legitimately.

Was there a specific brand?

Amazon.

Like it's a metal, like,

looks like the letter U.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

I see.

I'll go with the best seller.

And I'll be here tomorrow.

I'm fucking hard, Jackie.

You will die.

The ones at night aren't that crazy.

In the morning, I cannot get over.

And I feel like I've noticed a big difference in my breath.

That's what the title says.

Bad breath reduced

scrape girls.

And how much is it?

It's like 10 bucks on Amazon.

It's not expensive.

Yeah, it's already ordered one second.

It is, I think it was like nine.

Guys, scrape your motherfucking tongues.

Like it's disgusting.

$9.97.

Especially if you've had like breath problems, scrape your tongue.

It's the best thing I ever did.

That's wellness for sure.

Yeah, no.

And so now I'm like, maybe I need to get into wellness.

I feel weller.

Maybe I should be taping my mouth.

I should be taping my mouth.

I've also started to take magnesium before bed.

I take magnesium every day as well.

That's like a Ben Soffer thing that he's, Ben's very into wellness, weirdly.

And I'm always like branding him out.

My tongues are extremely well.

No, Ben is like always looking into like Eastern medicine, like things he could do to like.

But I feel like he's also, Ben loves a quick fix.

Yes, but weirdly, no, when it comes to his body, like he's always looking for like alternatives and he's been like on my ass about magnesium.

When I tell you I've taken magnesium before bed every day this week.

What's it doing for you?

First of all, I'm having a much more restful sleep.

I am waking up on my own

and I find my thoughts to be slightly calmed before bed.

You know, I'm always thinking about like crazy shit before bed.

Interesting.

I take it for pregnancy migraines and it's

good for,

I think, leg cramps.

Yeah.

Well, I've been told to take magnesium for my leg cramps.

And I've gotten magnesium when I've done IVs for like hangovers.

I've gotten ones with magnesium and it makes me so tired.

And the nurse one time actually told me magnesium can make you tired.

So it's also good to take before bed.

Well, I do happen to take my vitamins before bed.

So I'm just like kind of on a wellness journey.

On a wellness journey.

I mean, I'm on a wellness journey too.

And part two of my video collab with Flave City is up today.

We went shopping together for baby food and I just like picked out what I would buy at the store and he told me what was wrong with it and what to get instead or if I was making the right choices.

They're on my Instagram and Flav Cities Instagram and people are quaking.

Like I'm a Bobby approved girly.

Well, I would also like to know 20% of the time.

For me, like the wellness things I've been doing are like very low lift.

Like I'm not going to get a cold plunge.

I'm not going to get a dry brush.

So if anyone has any like a bunch of stuff.

A dry brush sounds low lift.

I don't know.

Hovered over naked in the shower sounds like a lot of back work.

I think you could like, you could just dry brush your face.

Okay, well, if anybody has like low lift wellness things that like have really made an impact.

Like for me, like the toothbrushing, toothbrushing scraping has made a real impact and it's three seconds of my day and it was like a ten dollar thing on amazon any low lift wellness tips that'll just make me feel better especially like during the week in the mornings let me know okay i'm kind of like loving this journey i know we're we're just constantly evolving turdy lou i know because if like a year ago me heard me talking like this she would slap me in the face i know add wellness to the list downton reading wellness what was the other thing wearing your hair hair up hair up.

That's a wellness tip.

It is.

Are you ready for our next story?

A little drama, a little movie set drama, because Cameron Diaz is working on her comeback film and allegedly Jamie Fox is throwing it into chaos as he sacked four crew members and is just having a total, quote, meltdown.

Well, this is the first time hearing of a Cameron Diaz comeback and for that, I'm excited.

Exactly.

Cameron Diaz's first film in nine years has reportedly been thrown into chaos after co-star Jamie Foxx's onset meltdown.

It's been reported that the actor has become so unhappy with production on the London set of Back in Action, that's the movie, that four people have been sacked.

The Netflix comedy will mark Cameron's return to acting after previously

stepping away from the spotlight to raise her son.

According to The Sun, the Oscar winner, Jamie Foxx, has axed an executive producer, two directors, and even his own driver, becoming pretty unpopular in the process.

A source told the publication there have been some major issues on set, and and Jamie has had a major meltdown over it all.

By the way, just like Cameron Diaz and Jamie Foxx working together again after Annie.

Again after Annie.

They also worked together in 1999 for the movie Any Given Sunday.

So they obviously like working together.

Yeah.

And I feel like Cameron Diaz is like really down to earth and she wouldn't like gravitate towards someone who's like mean and difficult to work with.

So I don't know.

There's something about the story sound adding up for me.

Yeah.

He, I don't know.

I don't know what's going on, on, but I need this movie and I need it now.

So everyone's going to find a way to work together.

Do we have a synopsis?

Is it like a rom-com?

Jamie and Cameron Fall in Love?

Back in Action sounds like an action movie.

Like, it kind of is.

So it will be directed by Horrible Boss's director and written by the neighbor's screenwriter.

It's been filming in London since December.

Little is known about the plot, but the actors have been

spotted filming stunts.

So that gives it action on the River Thames alongside their co-star, Glenn Close.

Oh, wow.

Yes.

This doesn't sound like a classic Cameron film.

No, but she's always switching it up.

I know, and she's always right.

She has a good picker.

Even though I do think that like a lot of celebrities make bad movies when they work with Netflix, just because Netflix pays them a lot of money.

Yeah, but she is not coming out of retirement to embarrass herself.

Yeah, and she doesn't need the money.

Let's be not forget she made $100 million on Shrek.

Yeah, but I think that it's possible to make good movies with Netflix.

It's possible.

I think they start to get bad when you have like a multi-movie deal.

And then by like movie four, we're like, what are we saying now?

Yeah.

A first movie back in nine years, there's a lot of story to tell.

There is.

Whenever I hear that Netflix is making a movie, even with the Nancy Meyers thing we were talking about yesterday, I'm always just like certain it's not going to be good.

Netflix like original movies are really not known to be amazing.

Some of them have been great.

Yeah, of course.

But some of them, I'm like...

with big stars, I feel like they're always getting like Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Hart, The Rock, like, and they're like, I couldn't even tell you the names.

Yeah, they're all pretty forgettable.

They're not bad.

I watch them, I enjoy them, and I look forward that they're coming to Netflix, but they don't stick with you.

They're almost like Hallmark, but with like bigger budgets and celebrities.

They make like the same movies.

Yeah, they're like rom-coms.

It used to just be like the stuff that we would go to the movies and see, like crappy movies.

But I guess there's just more of them now.

Yeah.

Well, I will be watching this movie because I'm a Cameron Diaz girly, and I think her and Jamie Foxx have great on-screen chemistry.

Mm-hmm.

Of course.

But I don't know if I'm buying this drama.

Like maybe it's just, I don't know.

It just doesn't sound,

just doesn't sound right to me.

Yeah, there's got to be more to the story.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Is it our fifth and final?

No, it's our fourth.

Okay.

One of your favorite, least favorite people.

I could give you a million guesses and you never would guess.

One of my favorite, least favorite?

Yeah.

Okay.

I'll give you a few.

I'll give you a few clues.

Reality TV,

a show on Netflix.

Crochet.

No, close.

Your least favorite person on that show.

Mary.

Mary Fitzgerald was worried when Brie Tsi joined Selling Sunset.

So Nick Cannon's baby mama, Brie T.

S.

C, is joining the new season of Selling Sunset.

Mary spoke to Design Scene in an interview and said, I was a little worried when she first came.

I was like, I can't do any more drama.

Please don't give me any more drama.

Oh, she said,

Mary, right?

Like, that's literally the fucking

job.

That's your job.

She said that Brie ended up being nice and that she likes her a lot.

And there will be a very interesting dynamic on the forthcoming season.

I kind of love that they have like another celebrity adjacent person, like Chris was Justin Hartley's ex.

Yeah.

I kind of like that.

I did see also an article that was, you know, unverified sources that, you know, Christina's obviously off the show and Chris is the new villain.

Huh.

In my eyes, she always was the villain.

Agreed.

So for everyone to see what I see, if that's, you know, potentially happening, I'm on board.

I too am on board.

I don't think I have the patience to catch up on the show because it's really bad and slow.

I didn't even finish the most recent season.

It was really bad.

I didn't start the most recent season.

And you will watch like 10 hours of content to just find out that, like, you know, Christine and Emma dated the same guy 20 years ago.

I'm good on that.

So unfortunately, it's not for me, but I'm glad that, you know,

they're keeping it interesting.

Yeah, this is a good casting.

If I was still into the show, I would watch, but it got really bad.

The first season was amazing.

The second season was great.

And then after that, it was just bad.

And I'm sorry, there is no show without Christine.

No.

Like try as you might, May, you can do the most constantly, but she was the show.

And I loved her, but whether you hated her or loved her, you can admit she was the show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So they're just going to have to, you know, they've made their bed.

Now they lie in it.

Mary.

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Our fifth and final story, the latest Scandoval news, Ariana Maddox has finally spoken out about the...

Scandival.

Let me pull up my notes.

I literally had notes from yesterday's episode.

Okay, well, first we're going to do Scandival updates and then an episode recap because there's two things I want to talk about quickly.

She put out a gorgeous picture of herself saying, hi, where to begin.

I want to express my most sincere gratitude for the outpouring of love and support I've received from friends, family, and people I've never met in the last two weeks.

When I have felt like I couldn't even stand, you have all given me strength to continue and see through my darkest hours.

To say I have been devastated and broken is an understatement.

However, I know that I am not in this alone.

So many of my closest friends are also grieving this loss right now.

I'm so fucking lucky to have the best support system in the world and I hope I can repay every single person for the love you have shown me.

What doesn't kill me, better run.

Oh my God, I was obsessed beyond like that final line.

I was just reading it.

I'm like, I was like, oh, what doesn't kill me makes you stronger.

And then I'm like, wait, what doesn't kill me, better run.

I'm using that in perpetuity.

It's so true.

It's so good.

It's so good.

So she's doing well.

She looks amazing.

I think she was at this wedding in Mexico this weekend.

I think that's where this picture is from.

Katie also said on Watch What I've been live that she's doing remarkably well.

I think, you know, I'm sure it's highs and lows and

the whole world rallying around her definitely doesn't hurt.

Yeah.

But I'm glad that she, I wasn't even waiting for her to say anything, but it's like nice to hear from her, you know?

Agreed.

I wasn't expecting to hear anything from her.

I just honestly, I wish her well.

Like I hope she's just doing well, taking care of herself.

She doesn't owe us, you know, social media content, but appreciative.

Appreciative.

Then also I wanted to share, Kristen Dodie went on the violence.

Yes.

And she said she can see why Tom Sandoval went for, quote, fucking dumb Raquel Levis.

She did not hold back.

All these podcasts that are coming out, there's so much.

I have a lot of thoughts, but first, she called Raquel dumb with no personality and said that she can see why Tom cheated on Ariana with her.

Ariana has a backbone.

Raquel does not.

Raquel validates everything that Tom needs to be validated.

She claims that Raquel makes Sandoval, Raquel 28, makes Sandoval 40.

important,

feel cool and talented.

Meanwhile, she shaded her ex-boyfriend's, quote, stupid band and his sequin pants and his mail polish and his dumb haircuts and the pedophile mustache for fuck's sake.

She told no lies in that statement.

No lies were told.

And I think that

that tracks, like, you can understand why Sandoval, like, he needs this validation.

He's, he's having a midlife crisis.

And so choosing Raquel, people are like, so random, Raquel.

No, it really does make sense.

She's very young.

That would make him feel young.

She's not, she doesn't have like a crazy backbone.

She's not going to like stand up to him.

He's just very go with the flow.

And he wants someone who thinks the world of him.

And Ariana's like constantly bringing him down to reality.

Weirdly, Ariana thought the world of him and supported him blindly, which is so shocking to me.

And I can't understand it.

But I also was thinking about like Tom and Kristen's relationship.

And I felt like, you know, I'm sure they started out in like a normal relationship.

And Kristen said, like, they should have broken up after two years.

And then, like, they were in the relationship like two years too long.

And I feel like he likes his

partners when they're girls

in the not in a physical sense but like in a mental sense and then like you become a woman and like you're sure of yourself and you stand up for yourself and you don't see him through these rose color colored glasses anymore so it's on to the next and so Ariana's like a few years younger than Kristen and she was very like girlish about the way that she liked him and now like Ariana's like a full woman with a business and all these things and like it's you are less impressive No, it's so, you're so right.

Like once in his eyes, once they become equals, he's out.

No, like you are smaller when you are standing next to someone who is bigger.

But if you like when they are small, it makes you feel big.

No, that's a really

fat, 40 going after a 28-year-old, especially at this stage in his life where he really is looking for, like, especially as he's getting older.

Like, I'm sure maybe when he was younger, he really drank, believed his own, own, and drank his own Kool-Aid.

Like, it does make sense why, not make sense, but.

You can see a pattern of like why this person is the way that they are.

And also, I could see like Raquel, she's finding her feet even in the episode last night.

I mean, I don't know how she went from that to making the worst decisions of a person's life.

But like in a few years, she will

come into her own too.

And honestly, it will happen again.

Yeah, no, you're 100% right.

The episode last night was so interesting.

And I think it's important to know, we don't know for sure.

And Katie Maloney was on Watch Oppens Live last night.

And to be honest, either she was like gatekeeping a lot of information or she knows nothing.

There's no way that she knows nothing.

She was definitely gatekeeping.

And

the word on the street, because Sheena's friend did a podcast with another one of Raquel's friends.

And they said that Raquel and Sandoval started to gravitate towards each other on Guy's night.

She was like, right after Vegas.

And then when Katie was asked, She said like she didn't know if in the show.

She said it was possible.

It's almost like she didn't want to say, she didn't want to say no, because then that makes her look, her and Lala look even worse on tonight's episode.

I agree.

And it's like, how do I feel like I know when the affair started and you don't?

And like, you have access to every single person in the relationship.

Yeah.

So I really do believe as of last night's episode, they hadn't started hooking up yet.

And so I'm gonna, I am gonna judge last night's episode on its own and then also through the lens of what I already know.

But just watching last night's episode, I was floored.

And actually Ben watched with me and Ben, I was trying to explain to Ben the dynamics that he didn't really understand how like what Raquel did is like such a betrayal.

And he was like, I'm Team Raquel, justice for Raquel.

Like if you just watch the episode.

So that's somebody who has no

alliances.

And you know what?

My, I have so many takeaways, but my major takeaway is Christina Kelly.

is the fucking worst.

She's such a follower and she's such a mean girl.

And I feel like my only memories of her, and Andy actually brought it up on Watch Robins Live, which I was grateful for, was like dragging Sheena's wedding dress crop top, making so much fun of her because she wasn't invited to the wedding.

It was like such a mean girl thing to do.

And even last night, she like runs into the room.

She started like everyone, everyone was responsible, but like Christina Kelly was just like eating it up.

She was like so excited to be part of the cool girl crew.

And she sees Raquel bought her own nightlight and she runs back into the room and is like, she has a nightlight.

And these girls are so hypocritical.

Literally.

Lala's laying there with her blanket she brought from home.

No, and I saw a tweet that was like, this girl is going to clown on Raquel bringing a nightlight.

And it was Lala in bed with her blanket and her bottle from when they went to Mexico a few years ago.

Which was, yeah, but no, I'm saying on this actual trip, Lala is laying in bed with Christina Kelly with her leopard blanket.

She brings it to the house and have a soup.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'm like, these are hunchbacks who can't see their own

episode.

She's full of hunchbacks saying, Lala saying, I respect relationships.

She doesn't feel like Raquel respects relationships.

When Lala was with Randall when he was married, and it's like, okay, maybe Lala didn't believe that he was married, but every single person around you knew he was married, but you're the closest one to it and you don't see that he's married and slept with James while he was with Raquel.

Like, I, I, I feel like all those things are in the past and we can move on from them, but then that doesn't make you the expert

on relationship respect, you know?

Yeah.

So let's go through the episode because they're in Vegas.

They get back from this night.

Raquel is drunk, which is quite literally what they went on the trip to do.

No, literally.

And it made me sad, even though, like, on a...

drinking level, I do relate more to Lala.

And I think Christina Kelly, she's very pregnant now.

So I think she's pregnant on the trip because she didn't drink at all.

Everything was like a club soda.

So we have two sober people.

Katie drinks, but like she's clearly, you know, manages it.

And Raquel is like in Vegas, single, in the prime of her life, drinking.

And like, she wasn't even like that.

crazy for like what she came in and with a plate of food and this is like the craziest thing you've ever seen.

So dramatic everyone was being and so mean.

And I didn't even think what she said to Lala was that mean, especially given they kept, Lala kept like telling everyone the story of what Raquel said and she's just glazing over what Lala said like I told her I wouldn't be comfortable like you know around my man which is such a mean thing to say right it ended up being true but still in that moment it's not true and so they're like and isn't that so crazy what Raquel responded it's like well what you said was also like kind of crazy yeah and it all stems from like Raquel being over all over Oliver which is like Lala did you give Did you give her express permission or did you not?

Right.

Right.

Are you upset that she hooked up with Oliver or are you not?

You can't be like somewhere in the middle.

You literally told her to go and do it and then you're like treating her poorly because she did it.

No, last night's episode was literally Raquel's villain origin story.

Like she's standing outside that hotel.

Oh my god, that literally

is so sad.

Ben was like bereft.

He was like, that is so sad.

It was so sad.

And honestly, she should have left the next day.

I'm so surprised that she didn't, but it's almost like she had drunk anxiety and she believed them about what they were saying.

But they were like gaslighting her into saying she was crazy.

She took her heels off in the hallway.

Literally, who hasn't done that in Vegas?

She ate food and she went to bed.

Like she made out with one guy who she knows.

Like they work at the same facility.

Like, what's the big fucking deal?

No, there's what was I missing that was so embarrassing and crazy.

And no wonder she had a panic attack with her drunk anxiety, but that panic attack scene was so fucking real.

Part of me thought for a moment that she had maybe already slept with Sanival.

And so like all of this anxiety, drunk anxiety, and then this big secret caused her to have the panic attack.

But I really don't believe they had slept together yet.

But that was a real fucking scene.

And they literally gaslit her into a panic attack.

And I think when they all saw she started to freak out, they decided to like let up a little bit.

Then they go to dinner that night.

And the whole conversation, again, with Charlie, Charlie is a real one.

She's a real friend.

She's so funny.

She has.

brass balls that she knows she speaks facts she wants to take on la la katie and christina kelly like and she's not even a cast member and she she's not doing it in like an attention attention-seeking way.

And I was just glad in that moment, this episode, isolating it and just

I was glad that Raquel had someone in her corner because, like, Lala just, and Jane, I was really glad that James said this in his interview because it's true.

Lala just doesn't like Raquel.

And so, it's just not fair to invite someone on this really intimate girls' trip and then be with your two best friends who you're literally going to be giggling with and slumber partying and showering with, and having this one person that you're treating other.

It's not nice.

You know what the trip really needed?

sheena yeah well sheena is the worst oh my god she was being the woatiest woat last night like so cringe first of all it really wasn't a divorce celebration party no when she said that i was like what the but then no so she's then it was such a no it was like a single girl's trip so another way of

schwartz piñata

Yeah, I guess you're right.

You're right.

But Sheena was just being like a shit starting pot stirring.

She's starting.

If she says, get your Schwartz back one more time, I'm going to vomit.

Cringe.

I'm going to vomit.

And I'm going to put it in a box.

I'm going to send it to herb house.

I feel like vomiting.

I literally was cringing, but she clenched.

I can't hear it again, Turdy Lou.

Hold on.

I'm just reading my notes because I had a lot.

Oh, and so the overall, you know, takeaway from the episode was like, Lala, my God, is this hunchback who can't see her own hunch?

So she's allowed to fuck

Raquel's boyfriend.

And I know she doesn't want anyone to say it, but she was a mistress.

She's allowed to do both of those things.

Nobody's allowed to be affected by it.

Nobody's allowed to talk about it, but she's afraid of Raquel being around someone's man.

And I know how that sounds given what we know, but I'm just saying isolated episode in this moment.

Like, Lala was being insane last night.

And I feel like this whole time she's kind of been like so real.

That's why we really love her.

It's like, yeah, she doesn't have these crazy alliances to people.

Like, she just says what she feels.

No, and like she speaks the facts.

And like, she even says like a hard truth sometimes.

But then last night she was saying, I hate the label mistress because it doesn't get like put any accountability on him.

Right.

Like, no, no, he should be accountable, but like you.

No, by the way, the word mistress doesn't put any accountability on Randall, but it doesn't change the fact that she was a mistress.

Right.

Like, it kind of does.

It means that Randall had a mistress, which is like a fucked up thing to do.

No, and like Lala speaking for women, like you don't speak for me, like, cause you were being crazy.

No, and like, I just, it really bothered me.

It's like, okay, well, Randall's not on the show.

How, how, how do you want us to hold his feet to the fire right now?

Like, you're the one having this conversation.

Like, right.

Like, it somehow became a fight between Raquel and Lala.

and Lala has no legitimate gripes against Raquel.

Katie does, and I actually do agree.

Like, Katie has been pretty gracious, like, inviting her on the trip, and I do feel like they could work it out and get to a place, but like, this whole Lala thing just like blew up and separated Raquel from this group, and it's so random.

Yeah, like in the battle between Katie and Raquel, Raquel is in the wrong.

In the battle between Lala and Raquel, Lala is in the wrong, but then Lala uses Katie's arguments against Raquel, and it's like, that's not what we're talking about right now.

Not fair.

And then Christina Kelly is just there, like, eating it all up, being a mean girl.

Yeah.

It was such a hard episode to watch.

And I was so grateful for Charlie.

And I've never really particularly likened to Charlie.

Like, I just, I didn't think she was right for the show.

But you know what?

She spoke fucking facts last night.

I feel like when she first came on the show, she tried a little too hard and it read wrong.

And now that she's not a full-time cast member, she comes to the things because she's either friends with these people or she's not there because she's not.

Like, she's just being herself and she has nothing to lose and only things to gain by saying stuff that's like funny and true.

And I think that's a good position to be in.

When Raquel and Charlie came out and said that they were leaving and they were like, we're going to go see Schwartz, that was like the dagger of the century.

Like that's the only thing that's going to be.

Do you not value your life?

No, I know, but you know what?

It's like this group has really

like mocked her endlessly this whole weekend.

And yes, in the Raquel and Katie scenario, Raquel is wrong, but like it was just such a good way to go.

It's like, oh, you've been like up my ass non-stop attacking attacking me this whole trip.

Schwartz, dagger.

Like it was kind of the perfect exit.

And she, she had some good lines last night, but she's not sure of herself.

So she like shakes when she delivers her supposed jabs.

Yeah, it's hard, but I'm glad to at least see her in this instance, like standing up for herself.

And even.

if she's not the most eloquent, like she's saying what we're all thinking, which is like, Lala, how dare you say this about me?

Like she's stepping away from her.

But she's getting.

It took her 24 hours.

She should have said it in bed in Vegas, but she was drunk.

And she took herself 24 hours.

You know the feeling.

It's like, I'm just so sorry.

Like, okay, yeah, I'm a little miffed about this, but I'd rather you not be mad at me than me be mad at you right now.

But it was like this elephant in the room.

Yeah.

I don't, I wouldn't trust you with my man.

Well, I shouldn't have trusted you with my man.

And by the way, you're right.

Lala just doesn't like Raquel.

And she really was just like extra pissed about the Oliver thing because when you stem, when you like follow that

storyline, it's like James chose Raquel all those years ago.

Like James and Rocket, James and Lala like have something weird.

They do, but don't you think if Lala ever called James one day and said, like, I want to be your girlfriend, he would break up with whoever he was dating?

Yeah, yeah.

But I just think like she feels this like protectiveness over James in a weird way.

She does.

They are ride or die for each other.

They came on the show together.

Like they.

And that's like a different alliance that throws another wrench.

Like, cause when then Raquel went to Boise Night, and it's like, in this instance, we are on Raquel's side, but it's like Raquel has an enemy there, James, who's an ally of Lala.

I was like, oh shit, Raquel, there's just traps everywhere.

So then Boise Night comes.

Nothing really happens.

Sheena's just being like, pick me energy.

And then the girls show up and the episode ends.

And people are like trying to glean, like, oh my God, Sandoval knew she was coming.

Look at his smile and look at the way he's looking at her.

I didn't really see anything like that was that telling.

However, now looking at the episode through the lens of what we currently know, a lot of it is, you know, eerily foreshadowing.

Yes.

But I don't know, at that time, I really don't know if I would have said, Raquel, I wouldn't trust you with my man.

Like, I just think that was like a low blow of Lala that happened to be true, you know?

Yes, agreed on Lala, but Katie said in her interview, and this wasn't, this was before she knew anything about it.

Not at all.

She's only, Raquel's only interested in like people her friends are interested in or people her friends have dated.

So that was a pretty astute observation.

But also, you guys are like just swimming in the same fish tank all the time like where else is she supposed to go not saying that she should go to sandval but like um

you know even like so they're filming at this like forlorn empty club and oliver's there and they're single and he's cute like and he's also like a part of the bravo universe like yeah like

like She's not the type that's just gonna, I guess that's because she's not the type that she's outgoing.

Like the way that Lala went up to those guys, Raquel could never.

No, could never.

But then I also felt like Raquel, like Lala going up to these guys, like she was just like working so hard to try and prove something because she got called out like two hours earlier for not being able to like land a man and honestly like I found her her behavior to be like a little desperate yeah it's true and then like they were at this like kind of weird fucking bar and they're like this is so fun like it wasn't no they did their best because the episode could have turned into like okay the two fun girls left and like the three boring ladies are like alone in Lake Havasu like what are they doing in Lake Havasu the three of them, they really did their best to look like they were having fun, even though I wasn't buying it.

Two of them are sober.

Right.

What is going on?

And Christina McKelly is like in a relationship, so it's only two single girls.

They did a good job.

You know, they swam.

Yeah, yeah.

They got on the float.

You know, they had like a group combo.

Like, we can't come off looking like losers.

Everybody get in the lake.

Yeah.

And then they went to that bar that night.

I'm sure that's the last place they wanted to go on Earth.

Right.

No.

And then they like hung out with the guys on the boat next to them who were like forlorn as well.

Like it was

a trip, it could have been a lot sadder.

Even when Charlie and Raquel were there, the trip felt bare bones and like random and weird.

And then once they left and they're doing the pinata, it was even worse.

Even worse.

And when Charlie and Raquel were there, they only went to dinner.

Well, Charlie and Raquel went out, which I loved for them.

Right, right.

That was cute.

It's so crazy because like the scandal notwithstanding, like I would weirdly be like riding for Raquel.

Like I actually thought she really held her own in last night's episode.

and she was unequivocally wronged by these girls.

Like, they were bullies, they were hypocrites.

But now, knowing what we know, how do we move forward for real?

Cause I'm like, I am not on everyone else's team.

Yeah, I agree.

I'm just gonna let the season play out.

I don't know how I could ever get to a place.

I couldn't ever get to a place where it's like we went from this to seven-month affair with Sandoval that I would ever possibly understand.

I know.

But

I said last week, like, I have no idea who Raquel is.

We all just thought she was a dumb bitch.

Like, maybe she's just like this evil plotting person.

I don't know who she is still.

She doesn't know who she is.

She literally said the same thing in the episode.

It was so sad.

It was so sad.

Oh, my God.

And the stuff about like James.

And her parents.

And it made me really sad because I feel like it finally made sense like why they broke up and why she was still so devastated that they broke up because it's like she would have wanted to be with James and marry him like she got engaged to him, but you cannot stay with someone who would say such things about your parents.

She broke up with him because she had to, not because she wanted to.

Right.

And like that's heartbreaking.

And then that person is in another relationship in six weeks.

Yeah, no, it's, that was shocking.

Your dad is miserable because he's married to your fat mom.

Like I, my jaw hit the floor.

James is the fucking.

I know.

And then it's like, that's the James whose ends like delivering like, you know, bang fires.

Yeah, I know.

Later in the episode, like he is the worst.

a lot of human being.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just been a crazy, like this episode.

Last day's episode was a wrench.

It was.

I enjoyed it, though.

I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed the conflicting feelings.

I thought I would like die.

Because you know what?

Sometimes things aren't, and never will I condone what they did, by the way.

But sometimes things are not so linear.

Black and white, yeah.

I thought last night's Watch Robins Live was going to be like tea spilled because every time one of them goes on a podcast, it's like TTT.

Katie gave nothing.

I was like, and she, someone asked her a question that was like really good.

She was like, we'll have to wait till the reunion.

Like Andy asked her.

And it's like, if Andy's asking you, it means you're allowed to to say.

I feel like Danny Pellegrino was like, this is bullshit.

Yeah, there was nothing, not a drop.

Honestly, I stayed up so late to watch because I got home late because I was out.

And I was pissed.

I was like 30 minutes of sleep that I didn't get.

Yeah, it was useless.

There was nothing.

If you haven't seen it yet, you don't need to watch it.

Like it was really giving nothing.

Yeah.

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