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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast.

Happy Wednesday, a gorgeous day here at The Toast because it's hump day.

You're halfway through the week.

How should we celebrate?

Oh, I don't know, maybe by humping someone you love, which I already did today because I woke up with Theo in my arms.

Hey, Jax, how you darn?

Darn good.

I think we should celebrate with another episode of The Toast.

I love where your head is at.

It's kind of a strategy.

It's a crazy idea, but you have to hear me out.

I feel like that's what people need to get through to the latter half of the week.

I mean, it is what we usually do, and what we usually do like is working for us.

So I say, stick to the stuff you know.

If you want to be cool, follow one simple rule.

Don't mess with the flow.

no, no.

You're 100% right.

We should stick to the status quo.

Octave change.

No, no, no.

Such a good song and such a good message.

Is it a good message?

It's actually not.

It's actually such a good point.

It's like the worst message.

No, the point of the song was like they were trying to get Gabriella to not

stay in her box and like, you know, only hang out with a certain group of people and don't even think about blending.

And we love blending.

No, and it's like Martha, you can't pop and lock and jam and break.

Like, you must stay in your lane.

Yeah, but she should.

Have you seen her jam?

Have you seen her break?

That's what she's born to do.

Have you seen her TikTok?

She's literally dancing around the world.

And if she had stuck to the status quo, we would never know dancer Martha.

We would only know nerd Martha.

Right.

So it's why they have to go and name her Martha.

Why not?

No offense to our Martha toasters.

It's just not, it's not like the most young, fabulous, fabulous, vibrant name.

Depends on the Martha.

So true.

I know a great Martha.

So do I.

Yeah.

You're right.

Like, that's the thing about names.

Like,

the person becomes the name.

But sometimes a name becomes a person and they just, they can't, you know, take back control.

Yeah, well, that's on them.

They're out of control.

Right.

They're out of control.

Personal accountability.

They're spiraling.

Personal accountability is so important.

Get a grip.

So stick to the status quo when it's working and when what you're doing is really amazing.

And that's what the title of the song should have been.

Stick to the status quo when it's really working and when it's really amazing.

I would say that the students, though, the Wildcats would have said like the status quo was working.

There was peace and harmony in the land.

Always playing devil's advocate.

But they didn't know how good it could be.

Right, right.

They were blinded.

Yeah.

By the quo.

By the quo that was status.

Can I tell you something I'm like struggling with?

You know, new conversation tangent.

Sure.

So, you know, this weekend is opening night of the Eros tour.

And like, I'm struggling with the fact that I'm not going to be there.

Like, I did think about maybe getting on a flight to Arizona.

I'm like, honestly, I need a break from travel.

But, like, so much content is already coming out on TikTok.

Like, people are standing outside State Farm Stadium.

They are filming because you can hear she has to rehearse.

And so they're filming and knowing what songs are on the set list.

Like, I already know two songs that are on the set list.

Like, I'm really annoyed.

And I don't don't know how to like preserve my experience because my show, my first show is not going to be until May.

So I don't know how to like, you know, engage with the Swifty community when they're kind of being toxic right now and like giving spoilers.

Where are you seeing the spoilers?

TikTok?

All over TikTok.

And the first show hasn't even happened.

Once the first show happens, like people are more than welcome to share.

I'm not going to judge them for that, but like, do I even want to see that?

And you can't just like limit your TikTok use until this weekend?

Or are there ways to do filters on TikTok where you can like

make sure that you're not seeing anything Taylor Swift, Swifty?

I mean, I could limit my TikTok usage.

I just think it's important to be realistic in this scenario.

Can you do filters on TikTok?

I don't know if you can block like a hashtag.

I feel like you could.

But I've also been getting like really good inspo for like what I should wear.

So it's been helpful, but it's also being toxic.

I feel like you could figure out what to wear.

Yeah, I was actually thinking about

the outfit I wore in Lisbon with

the rainbow.

That's like been a lot of people's inspo for the Eros tour.

I know.

I didn't even think about it, but that dress is so lover-era.

Yeah.

So, I don't know.

It's just something like I'm struggling with.

I feel like a lot of Swifties can probably relate to, like, what I want to know.

And there's like, once the show actually happens, like, do I watch all the videos or do I wait for it to be a surprise?

I think when I saw Reputation, like, I knew everything that was going to happen, and it didn't really make a difference in how much fun I had, you know?

Yeah, it always makes every show a little special.

That's true.

I just can't believe it's here.

Like, we've been talking about this for so long, you know?

Yeah.

And I still don't have tickets.

It's time.

Still don't have tickets.

Don't even have like a lead.

But again, I just, I'm not worried, you know?

Yeah, what's meant for you, we'll find you.

I don't chase, I attract.

So I hope that brings you peace, Turdy Lou.

Thanks, Jaqui.

Wanted to just make like a quick celebratory announcement.

Congratulate our girl, Jackie O.

This morning, she reached 300,000 followers on Instagram, which I don't know if like as a society, like we're beyond sharing like the 100,000 milestones, but like I'll never be over it.

Like it's so exciting.

It's so exciting.

We're beyond like, you know, balloons with 300 on them and then to get

to cancel that delivery I had sending to your house.

Like I'm not going to post something in feed like 300K because every time like someone does that, then they dip below.

That's always exciting.

Yeah, no.

And I do like always roll my eyes.

I'm a congrats who hears.

But I think we can orally celebrate, you know, because we were talking about it this morning.

That's what we do on the show is talk about the things that we're talking about.

And that's kind of like been big news in our world this morning is that I hit 300K and that I'm just like growing on Instagram.

And it like, it just feels exciting because like when you go to your page, there's a new number.

Like I remember when I went from 100 to 200 on TikTok, like I felt different.

Do you feel different?

No.

Oh.

Because

I like it.

Right, right.

No, I don't feel different, but it's just, it's nice.

And also as I try and grow my business, like it's always good to have more followers.

And so it's

business is good.

Business is good.

You want to know why?

Because you're sticking to the status quo.

No, I feel like I'm not sticking to the status quo.

I feel like I've been switching it up.

Yeah, you have pretty much.

And I feel like, actually, I have been switching up my content a little bit recently, just being like a little more real,

I would say, because real people are real people.

And I feel like I'm attracting new audience.

I feel like maybe I tapped out on what I was doing before.

Right now, now you have so much to say, so much to share.

So many things I'm learning every day.

I'm learning something new

every day.

Especially in my driving excursions.

Right.

And by the way, another tour starting up soon is Luke Combs, which we're definitely going to go to a shower too.

Yeah.

It's very exciting to be a fan of good music these days.

It is.

It's also exciting to be a country music fan when summer comes because there's always good tours.

And

I actually live near like a lot of different venues that I could go to.

You do.

And so I'm really excited to see Luke Combs, Morgan Wallen, Lady A.

There's also a big country music festival down here in April.

Tortuga.

Tortuga.

And so I need to look at the lineup and see if that's worth pursuing.

And I just started planning my stage coach.

You know, last year I decided last minute not to go and I gave all my tickets to Margo, which was so nice of me.

I did make her pay for them.

That was misleading.

And I had a lot of regrets, but I had MSG the next week and I just thought it would be irresponsible to be like out partying for four days before.

One of the most important nights of my life.

And now I'm going.

I'm planning to go.

I'm very excited.

I got to get my outfits ready.

It's going to be great.

I've been to stagecoach in years.

Yeah, that's going to be really fun.

I'm sorry.

I know it's hard for you to hear.

Not really.

Especially.

Let me look at the Tortuga lineup.

Yeah, Tortuga is like low-key, like a major country festival.

I feel like people don't talk about it because it's randomly in Fort Lauderdale, but it's like on the beach and it's really beautiful.

And they get like major, major line headliners.

Yeah.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

This was last year, I think.

Literally the best lineup ever.

I don't even want to look at it.

What's this year?

This year,

Eric Church, Shania Twain, Kenny Chesney.

Pretty good.

Yeah, if I'm looking for a night out with country music, like it's pretty good.

On the beach.

Yeah.

Good things.

Good things.

I love festival season for me.

Like, I don't like, you know, Coachella and stuff, but country music festivals, if you haven't been, like, I highly recommend.

Even if you don't like country music, but you can appreciate

talent.

Just a vibe.

You can appreciate good music and live music.

Excuse me.

Blessed on it.

It's true.

If you appreciate like just talent, I think, and who doesn't appreciate talent, I think you'd enjoy it.

It's a great vibe.

Yeah.

So I'm excited about those tings.

Yeah.

I'm also excited that it's Wednesday.

We have deer toasters.

We actually have so many good submissions.

I was teetering.

I almost had four because they were so good, but I'll save you the next one too.

Oh my God, Turdy Lou.

Till Turtle's got crazy pants.

No, there's one that's like really, I know people are not going to like what I have to say.

I love that for you.

Yeah.

Throwing you into the fire.

I almost didn't include it because I'm like, oh, let's just give like another thing for people to hate us about.

But you know what?

I love it.

I think it'll spark interesting debate, interesting conversation.

Obsessed.

What's the topic?

Please, you're just like teasing me now.

The topic is

the disabled.

Yeah, no, it's kind of crazy.

Okay.

I don't know how to like summarize the topic in another word other than that.

Should we just like do it right now?

Because I don't know if I could wait.

You know what?

I said I have four, so maybe I'll do the other three.

Let's just do this one right now, okay?

Like, Claudia, which is so crazy because we said we were going to stick to the status quo today and we're not.

But we're not.

But as we also said, amazing things can happen when you break free from the status quo.

We're breaking free, soaring,

flat, toasting.

Okay, ready?

Hey, Jackson Turd.

I'm a longtime listener.

Thank you both for getting me through life as a new mom and a nurse.

Oh, now that I didn't realize I kind of skimmed through the bio.

She's a nurse, so that makes sense why she's having this dilemma.

Here's the situation.

Okay.

My father-in-law passed away last December.

Prior to that, he was given a handicap hanger for his car due to his inability to walk long distances.

Fast forward to now, my mother-in-law still uses the handicap sign and parks in handicap parking all the time.

It drives me absolutely nuts.

She's not a malicious person or ill-intending, but I know that it's wrong.

How do I confront the situation?

Should I say something at all?

She has absolutely no reason other than wanting to park closer to entrances.

Please help.

I'm just a toaster trying to do the right thing and make the world a better and safer place for all people.

So what my initial thought was, like, it is unequivocally wrong to use a handicap placard when you don't need one.

It's it's for people who need it.

But I don't know.

Like this woman just lost her husband.

Like maybe this is her way of grieving.

Those things expire at some point.

Like she won't get a new one.

Like, I don't know.

Just like leave her alone.

And if her husband just passed away, she's probably not extremely young.

Like, right.

even if she's, say, 50s, 60s, like she wants to park closer to the store, let her.

And I kind of agree with you.

And

like you said, they do expire.

So eventually, like

her time will run out.

But if this is like one small silver lining to like what she's been through in the last years, like she gets to take her handicap pass out for a joyride,

I wouldn't be such a narc.

Yeah, she's not like a 16-year-old sprightly like using her grandfather's.

That's really fucked up.

That's messed up.

Yeah.

I just feel like this is a situation where I would just like mind my own business.

Yeah, it was just like, pretend like I didn't notice that.

What are you going to do about it?

Say something to her?

Like, don't be a narc.

Come on.

She's going to be a little bit more.

No, I know.

And this woman just like lost her husband.

Like, give her the last few months of the parking pass.

It'll be up soon.

Yeah.

And then she'll have to deal with what she's probably avoiding.

Yeah.

Long walks to the supermarket.

Yeah.

No, I mean, we've all been tempted, you know, to just pull into that spot, drive around the parking lot for hours and hours.

And it's wrong.

It's wrong.

But I don't know, you know, she's a little old lady.

She's alone now.

She doesn't have help to carry the groceries to the car.

I can think of so many worse people who could abuse that placard.

You know what?

A little old lady with her groceries, like, sure, you could park at the front.

Yeah, and I will say, I don't know because I obviously don't have a handicap placard, but I feel like most of the time, I don't know if there's like many, many situations situations where like a handicapped person cannot use the spot because someone else is using it.

Like, whenever I see them, they're always empty.

Like, people really do respect

the handicap parking spots, which they should.

So, I don't know.

I just feel like, you know,

it's okay.

Let it go.

Yeah, but I know I'm gonna be called ableist for that.

So, that's why I was just like talking about hot take.

Got it.

I don't know.

Maybe.

I just feel like people are like using the word ableist really fast and loose these days.

I feel like we had this conversation a few weeks ago.

Like everything can't be ableist, you know?

Yeah.

Like people on TikTok make these crazy arguments like such stretches.

Like you like,

like literally the most mundane thing.

They're like, that's ableist.

And it's actually rooted in misogyny.

No, but then like shit that's actually ableist.

Like literally atrociously vile statements.

Yeah.

So I'm not ableist.

I just think it's important to say that.

But that was like your little, your little teaser, a little palate cleanser

for Dear Toasters, which is at the end of today's episode.

I just like to like prioritize things that need to be fixed in the world.

And like the little old lady using the handicapped placard after her husband just passed away.

And it's like this one small win for her is not it.

For me.

For me.

For you.

And for you.

And this is also a great time to remind you guys, if you're dealing with something, email us, deartoasters at gmail.com.

We will always keep your prompts anonymous.

And if you're dealing dealing with something, whether it's mother-in-laws, handicap placards, whatever it is, shoot us an email, dear toasters at gmail.com.

Okay, and I think with that little teaser, we can get into the stories.

Yeah.

So without further ado, to do,

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Okay, our first story, some fashion drama.

Zendaya's stylist, Law Roach, says he's retiring due to politics and lies.

So Zendaya's stylist who has also styled many a star, but he's most famous for Zendaya because one, she has the best style, and I think they've worked together for the longest and the most events.

He's also known for like specific moments, maybe not clients like Zendaya, but I think he did a lot of Ariana Grande's music videos during her iconic music video era.

Yeah, he's also dressed Megan Thee Stallion, Hunter Schaefer, Carrie Washington, Celine Dion, Ari, Prianka Chiopa, Lindsay Lohan, Addison, more.

But Zendaya.

Also, because she's just like the most fashionable girl on the planet.

And here's the man behind it.

Anyways, he posted a picture saying, retired, with the caption, my cup is empty.

Thank you to everyone who have supported me in my career over the years.

Every person that trusted me with their image.

I'm so grateful for you all.

If this business was just about to close, I would do it for the rest of my life.

But unfortunately, it's not.

The politics, the lies, and false narratives finally got me.

You win, I'm out.

This was shocking for a multitude of reasons.

One, he's not particularly old, and he's not particularly like

washed up.

Like he's at the top of the street.

He literally like just was doing Stars at the Vanity Fair Oscars party this weekend.

And so many of his clients and just like major, major celebrities were commenting on his post, like, what?

No, you can't.

So it seemed like it was something nobody knew about.

And obviously the internet has flocked to find the reason.

And they think they found it.

There is this video going around from very recent, I think last week, Paris Fashion Week.

He went to the Louis Vuitton show with Zendaya.

They both walk out to the front row.

The person shows Zendaya her seat and Law doesn't have a seat.

And Zendaya points behind her.

There's a seat directly behind her in the second row.

She's like, oh, that's your seat.

And he looks feclemped, flustered, offended, pissed.

So, I don't know if that's the whole reason because he said the politics, that could be the seat.

The seat is politics, the lies and false narratives.

But maybe he got that seat because of lies and false narratives that are like circling.

I felt two ways about Seatgate because, on the one hand, like

who was the front row for if not the biggest stylists and the biggest stars and the people who can actually

put their clients in these clothes right i feel like so often it's like influencers or just like random people who aren't buying your clothes whose who's not followers aren't whose followers are and it's just it's very

and if i was someone who's like a veteran in the industry i would see that and be annoyed like for me as a follower of people.

I'm like, oh, I'm glad my person was in the front because I got to see front row view.

Yeah, but when you thought about it from a standpoint, it doesn't make sense.

It's someone who actually has influence in the fashion world and like can get these dresses on influential people, why that person wouldn't be in the front row.

Right.

Like when you think about it, those top stylists like are actually the most, the influencers of fashion because they're influencing the major players like Zendaya.

Yeah, and Zendaya then influences the people.

Everyone, the culture.

Yeah.

So I understood why, of course, like he should be in the front row.

And that is a bit of a slap in the face, especially if there were people in the front row who aren't A-listers and animals.

Especially because it seemed like he was told he would be sitting in the front row because he walked to the front with Sunday.

I don't think he would have just assumed that unless he knew.

Yeah, but you like, in a situation like that, when it's like bleachers, like you do walk across the floor and then like go up to your stand.

No, I feel like you walk from the back.

No, I don't think so.

Yeah.

You walk from the back?

Yeah, like depending on how the room is set up.

I've been to like two seated shows and you walk in like from like at the last row, and then you walk up to the front.

Oh, I've experienced that otherwise.

Unless they're walking from backstage,

which is impossible, too.

Yeah, no, but I think you walk everyone like walks on the floor and like, even if the like on the runway sometimes until the show starts, just to like get up to their seats.

No,

like, what when I'm thinking about the layout, I mean, I guess it just depends where the show is.

Every show is different, but you would walk in from like the door and you would enter

like the first thing you see would be the last row.

it depends whatever i mean it depends yeah um but i i just it looked like he was told that he would get a front row seat that's why he like you know no but also like some anna wintor doesn't need to be told that she's gonna get a front row seat True, also, very true.

And I know that he's not Anna Wintor, but like he is one of the most influential people in fashion.

It's not like he needs to be promised a front row seat in order to go.

Like it should be expected.

But on the other hand, it's like, it's hard for us to, and lay people in general, to like understand why you get so offended about a seat, you know?

Right.

But like, it's the front row politics.

It's a sign of respect.

Yeah.

No, like, if you're not,

if you're not front, you're last.

A hundred percent.

And I think it's like, all right, maybe when you start out, even if you're having a ton of success, you don't come to expect things like that.

But when you're like a veteran of this industry and you're at the top of your game and you walk in with Zendaya, like you expect a little respect.

Yeah.

So that definitely would put a bad taste in his mouth, but not enough to retire from the industry as a whole.

So there's there's definitely more going on.

Because if I were him and Louis Vuitton disrespected me like that, like, okay, my clients are just not wearing Louis Vuitton ever again.

But Zendaya is like a face of Louis Vuitton.

So that's the politics.

It's like, you hate Louis Vuitton because they disrespected you, but a lot of the top clients you work with are actually faces of Louis Vuitton that have contracts and have to wear.

But he could get any new clients that aren't part of Louis Vuitton.

Yeah, but like Zendaya, you don't just give up on Zendaya.

But

this can't be the, you know, the one and only reason, of course.

It maybe just was like, you know, the straw that broke the camel's back.

but it does remind me a lot of Michael Costello.

When Michael Costello posted, because for me, like when I look at Michael Costello, when I look at Law Roach, like two unequivocal talents, like

so good at what they do,

but both referencing some like petty Hollywood bullshit.

And it just reminded me a lot of that, like so sad how someone...

both of these people who are so talented and have so much potential kind of being sidelined.

What happened in the Michael Costello situation that reminds you of this?

Like, he posted

that, like, he basically was blacklisted from, and it made sense to us because we were like, he's so talented.

His dresses are so beautiful.

And he never really got to a level

that he should.

Right.

And he said, literally, I've been blacklisted in this industry by certain people.

He mentioned Chrissy Teigen.

Yeah.

But just like how it's not even about how talented you are.

It's about like the connections, the hot, the swing, and you know, who you're with.

And it should be like a meritocracy, but it's not.

yeah

yeah i don't know what this is i really hope that we get more info i also feel like he's there's no way he's actually retiring i was gonna say do you think this is like a

a legitimate retiree or no i think it's a little dramatic yeah yeah yeah because he's he's the top of his game everyone wants to work with him if you look back in the last 10 years of like the most iconic looks in pop culture he's been responsible for a lot of them so i don't think you give up something like that but it's easy to get frustrated when when again you're not being seen for your talent, it's a cacophony of other really irrelevant factors,

yeah.

And as he said, like he loves fashion, if it was just about the clothes, he would do it forever.

And so, I don't think he's literally gonna spend the rest of his life like not doing this thing that he loves.

Maybe he will pivot into doing it in a way that he doesn't have to deal with all this shit, whether that's like doing his own line, or I know he's also a judge on an HBO Max show.

Yeah, all those things to me sound even more political, but yeah, Hollywood,

what do I know um but like you know front row politics is extreme the comment section on his instagram is worth scrolling through it's crazy like the stars were shooketh yeah

yeah i saw some of that addison commented lisa rena commented

And it wasn't like, oh, you've done amazing work.

Oh, yeah, Naomi was like, no, we will not let you.

So it wasn't like everyone, oh, we'll miss you.

You did amazing work.

Bye.

It was like, no, what?

Yeah, I don't think they're going to let him quit.

I don't think that he should quit.

Even though he didn't say quit, he said retired.

Right.

But

whoever offended him has some explaining to do.

Y'all are in trouble.

Yet in trouble.

Yeah.

Do you think like he's beefing with Zendaya?

No, because he could just drop her as a client.

Yeah.

And he could give all those looks to someone else.

Right.

She really is like the it girl of fashion.

And if like, and if he really has beef with her, like he could find whoever, and he probably spends a lot of time with her, he probably knows whoever her, like

whoever she's always competing with.

I don't even know who that would be.

Right.

Give them all the looks.

So true.

I don't think it's Zendaya because she also

used a new stylist and is not a competitor, but like similar.

Sidney Sweeney.

Sidney Sweeney.

Like her lukes are always aging her.

She's always looking matronly.

I know she has a partnership with Tori Birch and I just don't think it's like a good match for her.

So if he wanted to get back, even though like Zendaya is so much bigger than Sidney Sweeney, but they're both on Euphoria, and Sidney Sweeney is going to have a very long career ahead of her.

He could go to her because she's in dire, dire straits.

She's in dire need.

Yeah.

It's also interesting.

Like to me, he seems like the number one stylist in Hollywood.

But then some of his clients, it's like, oh, how'd you get to work with him?

Like, yeah.

Maybe he's really loyal.

And like people who worked with him when he wasn't the biggest, he stuck by people who stuck by him.

Yeah.

Like he could.

I knew Lily Steinfeld for Vanity Fair.

I actually didn't really like what she wore.

I just didn't like the length of the dress.

The dress is really beautiful, but like for me, I'm a gown or a mini girl.

Like that in between, I know it's very high fashion, like teacup, like right above the ankle.

I don't like that personally, but I know I could be wrong.

I'm obviously, you know, I'm wearing the same pants for the fifth day in a row.

What the fuck do I know?

Oh, I think I see it.

No, this is 2020.

It's like a silver dress that like really cuts her off like before her heels.

I hate that.

Is it this one?

I can't see what you're showing me.

It says 2020.

There's no way.

Whatever.

That's irrelevant.

But

Hailey Steinfeld is still like really major.

She's been like quiet for a few years, but she has like a huge global following.

It's like kind of crazy.

What is she major doing right now?

Would you?

No, I just said not right now.

I'm just saying in general.

She's like an Oscar-nominated actress.

She's a pop star.

She was like the lead in, you know, pitch perfect.

She's major.

I would say she's major.

Okay.

The dress goes all the way down to the floor.

Not what I saw it.

It was a bunch of.

She's wearing a coat with it.

It's fashion for sure.

I know.

And that's one thing about me.

Like, I will critique everyone and everything.

Meanwhile, like, I'm a slalab who knows nothing.

I think that's important.

I'm crying because her dress is down to the floor covering her heels.

Next story.

Lindsay Lohan is pregnant, expecting her first baby with Bader Shamus.

Lindsay is pregnant,

expecting her

first baby with her husband, Bader Shamas.

Her rep says she's feeling great and she's thrilled.

She shared the news via Instagram on Tuesday with a photo of a baby bodysuit that said coming soon on it.

And then her rep confirmed that she is pregnant and they're expecting a Bebe.

So welcome to the pregnancy bunch.

This is a great one for the crew.

Huge for the community.

I literally forgot she was like married.

Is she married?

Yeah.

I totally forgot.

She's been married for a while now.

Like she's really very low-key.

Settled.

Settled and, you know, married,

pregnant, like very traditional.

Yeah, I didn't see that for her.

And by the way, the comments were so nice.

Like, Lacey Shaber, Gretchen Wieners, Paris Hilton, oh, all the parent trap queens.

Like, it was actually really nice to see all the people who still wish Lindsay well.

I feel like everyone who has worked with her, like, really roots for her, which is so nice to see.

But I also feel like in the last few years, I feel like we still like kind of write Lindsay off as like,

Yes, who knows what she's doing?

She's, you know, she's Lindsay.

She's Lindsay, but she's in like like working recently and going to like doing interviews and red carpets.

And she's very

just like,

for lack of a better word, like normal in the sense that like she's just working in Hollywood right now and being a wife and a future mom and like.

going about her business and not doing what she was doing before which was you know like running around the globe and instagram living yeah and the club in mykonos yeah oh right you know like she's just settled down now and i feel like she's been doing it for at least a year or two.

She was in that Netflix Christmas movie, and like, it's really sticking.

Yeah, no, I feel like she's in a good place.

There was like a rough couple of years,

but she seems really happy.

I'm so glad she's pregnant.

I think that's so cute.

And it's at the same time as Paris, which is just like so crazy, you know, like all the girls are growing up.

All the girls are growing up.

I watched a clip of an interview that she did recently, Lindsay, and like I was just struck by how sober she sounded, not in like an actual

drunk sort of way but just in like a lucid

yeah like

she's just had so many eras of her career that you just expect her to be one thing at this point but then when you actually hear her speak it's like oh she's just same old lindsay yeah i agree it's nice i'm really happy for her yeah i'm really happy for her and i'm excited dina's becoming a grandma i'm excited for the pregnancy content yeah and the love she needs like a she needs like a big cover you know yeah we need like a lindsay explainer in order for this era to feel really

relevant.

Yeah.

Like she's back and she's been back.

So like, why isn't anyone reintroducing her?

Right.

She needs like a vogue cover.

And like, honestly, being pregnant would be so beautiful.

Like she needs like this, like a reintroductory, reintroduction to society.

Or a book or a documentary.

Yeah, but I also feel like doing a book and a documentary is like really traumatizing when you have like so much trauma.

And I feel like maybe she's just at a good place and doesn't want to relive it, which I totally understand too.

Yeah.

But some sort of sit-down, like where we're just turning over a new leaf.

Yeah.

I would love to hear her talk about like all the times she was interviewed.

Like, cause now those clips go so viral, like old interviews, where people were so rude and dismissive and misogynistic about like the place she was in.

And like she's really kind of become kind of like Brittany, like

an example of like how the media really destroyed all these young women's lives.

And I would love to hear her talk about that.

So maybe she's like hesitant.

Well, she's definitely burned by the media.

So I understand why she's not desperate to like go run and do a cover.

Or like sit down with Oprah.

Cause even like some of the questions Oprah asked her have come back and been like question mark.

Yeah.

She needs a podcast.

100%.

Living Lohan.

She needs to.

Or she needs like some very open, loving, sisterly hosts.

Trusted sources.

Who

would let her speak her truth and we don't edit.

We don't edit.

We don't edit.

Unless she would ask us to.

Of course, I would do anything for Lindsay.

Do you feel like a kinship to Lindsay, like red-headed queens?

Well, she left the tribe for many years.

Yeah, but like when we were younger, like you were literally the quintessential redhead and so was she and she was like our idol.

And she was a really good redhead role model for a while.

Yeah, like she always like had good like redhead hair and makeup and like made really redheads like seem so beautiful.

And so yeah, I do.

But then I feel like I forgot how I felt about her when I was like younger because now I just think of her as like when she was blonde and when she was brunette and she was, she was so, she was not red for so many years that I kind of forget she's a redhead.

What do you think is Lindsay's most underrated film?

Hmm.

Confessions of a teenage drama queen.

I know you're going to say Georgia.

Oh, no.

Oh, my God.

I forgot.

I was going to say her be fully loaded.

Oh, not the most underrated, but she's so good in everything.

Like, if you watch her be fully loaded, it's like a dumb Disney Disney movie, whatever.

Like, she's really so good, and she's so committed to that car.

No, she's so committed to the car.

She's really, I feel like.

She's literally like acting with a car.

It's like when she did Parent Trap, she was acting with no

and then herself.

Like, I think people really forget, like, she's such a talented actress.

Like, that's why she blew up when she did.

She is a star.

She has real talent.

No, she really does.

And even when she comes back and does movies, like, she's a really great actress.

She was, didn't just like blow up because she's a celebrity and we're just cute.

She didn't care about like the tabloids.

Like she's an amazing actress.

Me and girls, obviously, Freaky Friday, Just My Lessons of

Just My Love.

Life size.

Oh my God.

Eve's great.

No matter where she goes.

She's an amazing actress.

That's why like whenever she wants to come back to the world of acting, like she'll be great.

It's in her.

She's very talented.

Thank you for bringing up Georgia Roll.

Any excuse to talk about that film.

And if you ever want to know why Rotten Tomatoes is literally a not trusted source and you should never make any decisions based on Rotten Tomato, all you need to do is look up the scores for The Lobster and Georgia Rule.

One of them has like an 100 and one of them has a 30 and one of them sucks and one of them doesn't.

And it's not what you think.

Yeah, Georgia Rule really was so good.

Oh, such a good movie.

Lynette Scabo, Jane Fonda, Garrett Hadlund,

Soldier Man.

The guy.

The guy, Jackie, with the money.

Garib Mulroy.

Yeah.

Who is like everything to everyone.

Yeah.

Oh, and then there's an older man,

right, for Jane Fonda?

And who's that?

Carrie Elwiss, which you wouldn't recognize the name, but he was just in that Christmas movie with Brooke Shields that we watched.

The Scottish Castle.

Such a bad movie.

Like, next level, bad.

It wasn't great.

It was so good.

It wasn't great.

It was so good.

It wasn't great.

No, No, it was, it was big budget, you know, Netflix Christmas movie, which is, is good, but Brookshield should really be ashamed of herself.

Like, that was, that was bad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, actually, that's a great segue into our next story, which is getting a bump up.

Okay.

Because Nancy Myers's $130 million rom-com is no longer moving forward at Netflix, and the project is looking at new buyers.

So a lot of industry info here.

Netflix has pulled the plug on Nancy Myers' next movie, a star-studded romantic comedy that would have marked the director's first film in years over budget concerns.

But don't cry into your cashmere sweater just yet, Turdy Lou.

Sources with knowledge of the project said the filmmaker is looking into other options to make the movie.

Prior to the film reportedly titled Paris Paramount being shelved, Scarlett Johansson...

What's the title?

Paris Paramount.

Not great.

Yeah.

Scarlett Johansson, Penelope Cruz, Owen Wilson, and Michael Fassbemeter were being courted for lead roles.

Pending talent availability, the project will be shopped to prospective buyers as a package, one source added.

So Netflix announced the rom-com in April 2022 and greenlit a price tag well over $100 million, a source confirmed to Variety.

Nancy wanted $150 million to produce the film, but Netflix wouldn't go over $130.

It's not clear how much of the budget is set aside for Nancy's paycheck versus, you know, like...

the kitchens.

Yeah.

The kitchens.

She was set to write, direct, and produce this movie, which is semi-autobiographical.

It's a story about Hollywood exes who end up working together.

She was married to director Charles Shire, with whom she had two children for nearly 20 years.

As a couple, they worked on several award-winning comedies, such as Private Benjamin, Baby Boom, and Father of the Bride.

Baby Boom is so fucking good.

Yeah, so then I guess they split.

And they wound up working together again.

She hasn't done a fully Nancy picture since the intern, but she did produce Home Again, which was written and directed by her daughter.

I just learned.

Oh, that's sweet.

Home Again wasn't her best.

And there wasn't hers, technically.

There were predatory undertones to the whole thing.

It was weird.

It's weird.

It wasn't good.

Honestly, I'm just, I feel like Netflix spends so much money on so much crap.

And even if this movie was not good, people would watch it anyway because it's Nancy Myers and she has such a cult following.

And I feel like this is a huge mistake.

When I first saw the headline, it made it seem like the movie was never going to, you know, see the the light of day.

It just, it's just not gonna be at Netflix, but somebody's gonna buy this.

Yeah.

Someone will buy this.

People will watch this.

She's really never flopped when it's her stamp on everything.

And this would be a situation where it's a completely Nancy production.

I don't know who wouldn't chomp it the bit over this.

What do you think is Nancy Myers' best movie?

Okay, let me pull up her catalog because I just want to make sure I'm considering all options.

And I just want to say one of the biggest mysteries of this world is the fact that because I said so is not a Nancy Myers movie.

It's so Nancy Myers.

It's Fancy Fires.

With Diane Keaton and Mandy Moore, I always feel like it's a Nancy Myers movie and it's like, low-key not.

Yeah, The Parent Trap with Lindsey Lohan is a Nancy Myers movie, which is.

Oh my God, maybe Nancy could revitalize Lindsay's acting career.

100%.

I love The Intern.

I think it's like an amazing, amazing movie with an amazing message.

Me too, but it doesn't give me quintessential Nancy, you know, coastal grandmother vibes.

No, I think her best is The Holiday.

Ooh, yeah.

Read them all one more time before I make my selection.

The intern, it's complicated.

That one you love.

I love that movie.

The holiday.

Something's gotta give.

You love.

That's it.

Sorry.

Something's gotta give is my favorite.

Father of the Bride, part one, part two, part three is coming.

No, 2020 came out.

Missed it.

Baby Boom.

Baby Boom is so good.

Private Benjamin.

Irreconcilable differences.

She worked on I Love Trouble.

So what did you select?

The holiday.

The holiday.

I'm going to go Something's Gotta Give, but the holiday and its complicated are close seconds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like it.

I want to live in a Nancy Myers film.

Like everyone just has money and they don't ever seem to be worrying about money.

They all have great style, the perfect linen pants, like, you know, always.

She should come out with a homewear line.

Yeah, but like, she's so rich.

Like, she doesn't need it.

No, she doesn't need it, but it could be like, you know, community service for her to like give

community

and that people could live in these homes.

It would be good for people to live in such relaxing ambient

environments.

She also recently had her home photographed for Architectural Digest, and people were quaking because it's like finally inside.

And it was, it was so nancy it was so stunning yeah peak nancy gotta be nancy peak nancy yeah

so good

damn well hopefully that movie gets picked up shortly gets made quickly but not too quick you know don't compromise because i'm looking forward to watching it and i like the cast options

yeah i don't love Owen Wilson in like a serious role.

It's like the rom-coms.

That's not serious.

No, no, no.

Like,

sorry, let me rephrase.

I don't love seeing Owen Wilson as like the heartthrob.

He's reading man.

To me, and when he was in Midnight in Paris, which is literally like a Scorsese?

Nope.

The other one.

The other one?

The glasses.

Bilberg?

No, glasses.

Glasses is Scorsese.

No, no, no.

Glasses.

What's his name?

Claude, he's like the one.

He's, you know, the reign in New York City with Selena.

Oh, Woody Allen.

Woody Allen, yeah.

I did not feel like he was right for that.

Like, I don't see him in this, like, Prince Charming kind of way.

Like, I really see him as like the internship wedding crusher.

Clown.

Fast clown.

Clown.

I'm sorry.

I do.

So I don't, I don't, I actually don't love that selection.

I love Penelope Cruz.

Who was the other woman?

Scarlett Johanson.

Wonderful.

Literally would take a bullet for her.

And then who was the other man?

Fast spender.

Stunning, like older Silver Fox.

That's what she's great at.

Like Silver Fox.

Like she could even, in a weird way, she could make anyone attractive.

Like, I do not, in the slightest, find Alec Baldwin even remotely attractive but like in that film i was like yeah it's complicated

yeah go jake go jake yeah i just wanted to say i disagree about owen wilson i think there's something really affable and like lovable about him and he's like

i think he's a cutie and he could be my leading man because i like that he's like

silly Affable is a good word.

I'm more of a Luke Wilson girl and I feel like nobody even thinks ever to put it about Luke Wilson.

Yeah, he would be great for this.

They're always thinking about Owen, and I'm thinking about Luke.

But they think about Luke sometimes, like he's in Legally Blonde.

Is there a better role?

Jacket, that's literally all he's in.

No, Claude, you just don't notice him when he's in stuff because he really becomes the character, you know?

Here,

let's do his movies.

I'm telling you, he doesn't got like a great.

He's underappreciated, and I think it's because of his brother.

You think that Owen is the superior Wilson?

In terms of fame?

Yeah.

I think it's not even comparable.

I wonder why, because Luke is more handsome.

So I guess like really looks don't win.

No, I think,

yeah, when you take a look at their like, you know, resumes, it's not even, we always, you know, reference Owen Wilson as Emmett from.

Legally Blonde, but beyond that, like, I could not name a single role.

And Owen Wilson has like a a few key movies that are blockbusters, blockbusters, and that's the wedding crashers, that's the internship, that's midnight in Paris.

Like, he has a lot of like major whereas, like, I couldn't name anything other than legally blonde for Owen Wilson.

I don't think they're even remotely comparable.

No, but he is also in like the Royal Ten Mounts, Anchorman, Family Stone, like a bunch of other stuff.

But to me, those movies was in the Family Stone.

To me, those movies don't measure up.

No, to

Wedding Crashers.

No, no.

Yeah.

Like, the Family Stone's like an indie, like, Christmas movie.

Like, not everyone's seen it.

Right.

Same with Royal Ten and Bombs, but that's probably like one of his most famous roles.

Yes, and I haven't seen it, but it's like on my list of things to do before I die.

Yeah, I feel like you would not like it.

Oh, really?

Because it's just like...

Is Gwyneth in it?

Gwyneth is in it, which is a plus.

Yeah.

It's very like artsy.

Oh.

But comedy, but not in a slapstick sort of way.

Okay.

I plan on seeing it at some time.

You should watch it because I'd be so curious to hear your thoughts.

It's like you would want to like it because the concept is a good one, but like, I just don't think you would like the way that it rolls out because it reminds me of, and I don't know if it is, Wes Anderson.

Oh, that's like not my vibe.

Yeah.

Is this Wes Anderson?

Yeah, it is.

Oh.

All right.

Well, I guess it makes sense why it's the vibe.

And why it's not your vibe.

Right.

No, I'm not a Wes Anderson girl, like not in the slightest.

No, but the

poster for each movie, I'm like, oh, I would love this movie.

The Grand Hotest Hotel.

Couldn't make it through five minutes.

Stunning.

Midnight.

I saw one Wes Anderson movie, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.

I went to the movies in college with my friend Abe, and he's like really artsy and into shit like that.

And I just was non-stop rolling my eyes.

It was something about like kids going camping.

Horrible.

Agreed.

Horrible.

Agreed.

Like, so bad.

But people love him.

No, and that's what's so fabulous about art and culture is there's something for everyone.

The keyword used to describe Wes Anderson's style is formalism.

That's literally not a word.

Not a word and definitely not something that's going to pique my curiosity.

No, no.

That's not even a word.

So

maybe just you don't need to receive Royal Ten and Bounds.

Okay.

But you should, because it's a good cast.

Like, anything with Gwyneth, like, I will like.

I agree.

She's just like, how funny did you see Shakespeare in love?

It's such a big cast.

I don't know if you get enough Gwyneth.

Yeah, I need to see Shakespeare in love.

I've actually never seen that, and that's her Oscar-winning role.

Yeah.

Look at you, Shakespeare.

I'm so literary.

Turdy Lou, Shakespeare.

William Turdy Lou.

Speaking of names, are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Nikki and Bri Bella are leaving WWE and announcing a name change for their next chapter.

Wait, what?

Yeah, I know.

Nikki and Brie Bella have announced their retirement from WWE as well as a major name change.

The twin sisters announced a decision Tuesday telling fans they will now be known by their birth surnames, Nikki and Brie Garcia, or the Garcia twins.

They said on the Nikki and Brie show on Cir ASXM, today we are.

officially from here on out, the Garcia twins, Brie and Nikki Garcia.

We're going to be 40 in November.

We're mothers, we're entrepreneurs, we're executive producers.

We're starring now.

We're hosting shows.

The twins explained that when their contract with WWE came to an end, the pair just knew it was time to head into this next direction.

Next chapter.

They said, I just, Brie said, I just want to thank Brie Bella, the character, the name, all of it.

I have been in the last 16, 17 years.

I'm so excited to close that chapter on Brie Bella, put that book to the side and open up a new one and see what Brie Garcia is going to do next.

It never occurred to me that that wasn't their name.

Like, even though when I think about it, like, yeah, everyone has like stage names on wwe like brie's husband is daniel brianson but he's brian danielson you know like they switched his name for like i get it um i just didn't ever expect that brie bella and nikki bella wasn't their names because i've just become so accustomed to that right and that's also become their brand like they had a show the bella swisters like right they're the bella twins yeah and they've lead into the bella twins and so i understand like you know this differentiation like i want to be miley cyrus not hand in montana anymore but they've spent so many years like

putting

money, time, effort into like the Bella brand.

It's really hard to do a rebrand.

I know, and you know what this reminds me of?

Do you like know at all what I'm going to say?

Let me think.

Like somebody who's like a really established brand just saying like, I want to change my name.

Somebody who has a really

it happened like somewhat recently and we were like, what?

And then the person like never really enforced the change, but like they legally changed it yeah yeah kelly clarkson yes what did she change it kelly brianne or something like

yeah kelly brianne of tarf right it was like so fucking random

i do no but like that's a great example because i do hope that this is like that where in a year we're gonna be like remember when they said they're the garcias but we're still they're still the bellas like in entertainment when it's when you're so famous and like your name is your brand especially with them because they're not just individuals they're like this brand this team of twins the bella twins it is so hard to get people to change i feel like even when people get married people did not say kim kardashian west for a really long time and once we got comfortable she changed it back like it's really hard to be famous and to have a name change i feel like someone who's famous who actually had a really seamless name change was when claudia ashre went from claudia to turdy lou like It happened in days.

But that's because like Claudia was really never Claudia.

She was like always Turdy Lou and people never really felt comfortable calling her Claudia.

So they were just like waiting for when she dropped the new name.

I thought you were like actually gonna say like a good example because a good example I think of and it's because I really felt like this was the way her name was meant to be is Sheena Shea.

Like that's not that's not her name will be met her.

She was Sheena Marie.

Yeah.

But her name was always meant to be Sheena Marie Shea.

But she's not Sheena Shay anymore.

Yeah, she is.

She isn't that Shay's name?

Yeah, but she was married and hold on.

And now she's married again.

Oh, she's married again.

Wait, you're totally right.

What is Sheena's last name?

No, they're actually a lot of influence.

Yes!

Sheena Shea is literally on her Instagram.

Sheena Shea.

Oh, same.

Lauren Lane.

Lauren Lane.

No, but even.

What is her real name?

Chrisnell.

Right.

No, she's Lauren Lane.

So many people that I follow on Instagram, like,

I find it actually oddly easy to switch to their married names.

Like, even I was looking at JoJo Fletcher, and I just think of her as like JoJo Rogers, just because I'm always like Jordan, Jojo, Jordan.

And then I was thinking, what is her maiden name?

Oh, I don't follow her.

So she's always JoJo Fletcher to me.

But yes, when you follow someone and they change their name, like even Dana, you're the redhead, she's like always, always, always been Dana Holes.

Like that's Dana Holes, Dana Holes, Dana Holes.

And the day she got married, literally, I think she went to the bathroom after the ceremony and changed her Instagram name, Dana Webman.

Everything down to her Venmo.

She made a new Gmail.

I thought that was crazy.

And I was like, damn.

She's always Dana Holes.

And now she's really Dana Webman.

Yeah, it can be done for a married name.

This is a little different.

One, because like we have so many years of the Bellas.

They're the Bella sisters.

And it really like, it's an entertainment name.

You know why they chose it for WWE.

It's just fun.

And it's like

very

Bella.

Yeah.

Bella.

It's global.

It's global.

It's Twilight.

It's Speeding the Bees.

Like, it's everything.

Totally random.

Speaking of Bella, I started my book for a book club, which I told you about.

It's One Italian Summer by Rebecca Searle.

The way she is painting Positano, I'm going.

Like, that's on my list.

I'm going in the summer.

I think maybe

your maternity leave, like, maybe I'll take a week and go.

Like, I have to go to Positano before I die.

You do.

And I feel like even just looking at pictures.

Even though, like, she does also describe like the way the city is built.

It's like a lot of stairs.

Italy.

Yeah.

And there's like not a lot of cars, but I'll figure it out.

I, like, I'm holding myself accountable.

I am saying I'm going to positano.

Yeah.

The thing about Positano, though, I think, is, like, once you're there, there's so many other great places around.

Then it can,

it turns into like this big

Euro trip.

And then that's like a lot to wrap your head around.

I know, but I feel like I would be okay just seeing one.

And like I would do a day trip to Capri.

It's like, if I could take a car, sure, but like trains, planes, automobiles, boat, I would love, love, love, love.

Yeah, I think you could do it by boat.

And in the book, the girl went in June and she was like, it's so much better because it's really hot, but like it's before tourist season.

So I'm just, I might be gone for a week, you guys.

I have to experience one Italian summer.

That's totally fine.

Yeah, go in July or August.

The weather is really like at its peak.

That's why it's tourist season.

Right.

No, I'm going.

Yeah.

Send me your recs.

You should go.

No, I'm going to go.

Like, this is my year of yes, and I'm doing it.

Good.

I love that for you.

Thank you.

What were we talking about?

Who are you going to go with?

Ben.

Oh, just the two of you?

Yeah.

Who else?

You want to go?

Wanna go like a swirly trip?

I will be so, God willing, so pregnant.

You can waddle down those steps.

You'll be fine.

I can't go international.

So maybe we do have to go in June.

Maybe we do have to go in June.

If we go in June, you'll come.

No, yeah, I think it's, I think it's like a romantic place too.

Like, oh, so you in Bennett's really sweet.

I know.

You don't want to be like, but it's also like a lit place and a lit time of year.

It's like, so you don't want to be with like your

crew of like, I know, of party girls.

Yeah.

I do feel like when you go on a lit trip, like it kind of ruins the experience in the sense that like you're hungover, you sleep all day.

Like you really don't get to experience like the place you're in if you're like partying all night like yes a couple nights for sure but like i don't know

that's how you felt about lisbon yeah in lisbon like i really could have done so much more sightseeing if i wasn't violently hungover sleeping through the whole day yeah

so i think i would want to take a sober trip maybe i'll maybe it'll be my birthday gift to myself i'm literally loving this for you and also i feel like positive did olivia go Not she went to Lake Como.

Also gorgeous.

Also gorgeous.

Like I feel that's what happens.

It's like there's all these gorgeous places and all of a sudden you're on a Euro trip and you're on the train.

I need a travel agent.

I can't like, I feel like it's so hard.

Yeah.

I feel like now you'll get inundated with travel agents.

No, I need like luxury travel agent who wants to help me and like I never answer emails, but like I'm really great to work with.

Yeah.

You have to know turdy Lou.

Know thy turdy.

Know thy turdy.

Like we like big rooms, big portions, big air conditioners.

Yeah, in the book, she's saying like there's no air conditioning anywhere and she's like so hot the whole time and she's like a young, healthy girl, you know?

Darn, darn, darn.

I know.

Something I've just been struggling with.

Back to the Bella Twins.

Do you like the book?

I do.

You know,

I like have been, this is my second Rebecca Searle book.

And like, I love the way she writes.

And she's Jewish.

And like, you could just tell.

And this book, honestly, if you've lost your mom, I wouldn't read this book.

It's so triggering.

It just really like highlights like how important moms are and like how no matter how old you get, like you love your mom and you're so lost without your mom.

And honestly, like I find myself getting emotional about it.

And I feel like if you lose, have lost your mom, like it will destroy you.

Honestly, like I feel that way.

So that would be my trigger warning.

Oh, wow.

But like Rebecca Searle's thing is magical realism.

And it's like both of the books that I've read, the thing that I hate about the book is the magical realism.

Yeah, but the book doesn't exist without it.

I didn't realize there was a little bit in this one.

Yeah.

The first one isn't so magical.

No, it's not.

Realistic.

It could be explained away.

this one can't yeah i'm not into magical realism like i'm i live life in reality i can do a little i don't like it i can do it that was like that book you recommended to me that i fucking hated

but the girl who like burst into pieces uh unfortunate importance of beauty the unfortunate importance of beauty amazing book so good but you liked magical realism with nothing to see here i did but that was because it was like funny Yeah, Unfortunate Importance was so funny.

So bad.

I might have to read it again.

So bad.

Is that our fourth or fifth story?

Fourth.

Oh.

Are you ready for our fifth?

I am because we also got to do Dio Toasters.

Right, right, right.

Tom Schwartz was spotted filming Winter House season three amid Scandival.

Oh, man.

Yeah, I thought this was interesting.

Tom Schwartz was spotted filming Winter House season three in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, despite being in hot water for allegedly having prior knowledge of Tom Sandoval's affair.

I don't think he's in hot water over that.

I think it's just like this, you made your bed with Tom Sandoval, so you're part of Scandival.

You are, you are who you like associate with.

Yeah, and I just don't think that I think he probably knew about it for the last few weeks, but I don't think he's known for seven months and the Brock Kell thing with him was a covered, not at all.

No, me neither.

I don't know what his real options were when he found out other than to be loyal to his friend.

So I'm not mad at him for that.

He's not a man with a backbone.

He's not the one who's going to like blow it up and be like, do the right thing.

I'm not mad at him for that.

I'm not mad at him for anything in particular.

I just think he's the worst.

Yeah, agreed.

And now it's like everything else that he's done that was like borderline over the last few years, it all, and because of how much he allowed Tom San Tom Sandoval to influence and ruin his life, it's like you're a fucking moron and schmuck and you lay with dogs and you get fleas, my brother.

This is who you put your whole stock in and look, look at who he is.

Good.

Yeah.

Good, by the way, the one you got.

Also, from our conversation yesterday about Summerhouse, I'm like now thinking, like, I feel like Winterhouse is even more unnecessary.

Like when Summerhouse was like popping off with like so much drama, so many couples like, yeah, give us Winterhouse.

But now, like, Summerhouse is like barely hanging on, like being half decent.

I really don't feel like they need Winterhouse.

Yeah, also, Winterhouse was born out of COVID when they needed show ideas and they like couldn't film.

And so it's just like, get these people quarantined in a house and film somehow.

100%.

But they've made it a little more interesting because it's cast members from all different Bravo shows.

So like now you have Tom Schwartz.

Sandoval was supposed to be on the show before Scandival.

Why wouldn't he be on the show, though?

He's old and like married.

Well, he was.

Because like the, you know, they put so much stock in Tom Tom.

No, I get it.

The Toms and like Bravo, people like that.

Tom Schwartz is another Kyle, like an older.

Tom Sandoval.

Sandoval.

So sorry, excuse me.

Is another Kyle, like someone who's too old, who's taken, doesn't really contribute to like the young party malicious vibe.

Yeah, well, I remember a year or two ago, they wanted Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz to go on Winterhouse.

And it was like, Tom Schwartz is married.

Right.

Like, and they want to go without their wives like what so weird so weird but now Tom Schwartz is single he's been single for maybe a year at this point like

uh I'm fine with him going on winter house and because he has all this drama going on like it's it's a pretty good call also Brian Benny from Family Karma is going to be on it as well as

they were spotted having a meal at Timber and Torch it was Schwartz Brian and a former Winterhouse cast member Corey Kiefer and then it was also stated that Kyle and Danielle were there having lunch with them too.

So it's going to be the old crew.

But then what I found interesting is Southern Charm is currently filming, which means Austin and Craig probably can't go.

Uh-huh.

Is Paige gonna go without Craig?

That sounds miserable.

It sounds miserable, but people love Paige.

I think, yeah, she'll be there.

Yeah.

You know, she's been very quiet this season.

Her and Sierra.

Yeah.

They have been, but like, they're just like doing their girly thing.

Yeah.

So I feel like Winter House could be good as like this like amalgamation of Bravo stars, but they've got to be single.

Hodgepodge.

They've got to be surprised.

They've got to be single.

Honestly, Ashley Darby should go.

Ashley Darby.

Oh my God.

I know like the real housewives are like kind of like the older generation and these are like the younger shows.

Kyle's 40.

Kyle's 40.

And Ashley Darby's like young.

Yeah.

She should go and she's single and she already dated Luke.

Yeah, I feel like Tom Schwartz, except now he's kind of tainted, but before that, like I feel like he could have met someone on like him and that girl,

Sammy.

Yeah, she's so cute, Sam.

They could have been cute.

Yeah.

Who said they wanted to go out with Tom Schwartz?

Taylor.

Taylor.

But they're filming Southern Charm.

They're filming Southern Charm, but did you hear the report that the rumor that Austin hooked up with Taylor Shep's ex?

I saw it not looking very credible, but when I think about it,

I could see it.

I'm kind of here for it.

There were such good friends on the show.

I feel like it would have happened in a natural way.

Like Austin was always really there for her.

She's such a sweet girl.

Shep was so

terrible.

so terrible she deserves true love and austen's always looking for a relationship and like maybe this is the one for him i would ship as long as they went about in a kosher manner which we know that they did the way i'm like still holding out hope for austin and chelsea oh my god chelsea is like so moved on no i know but like they were perfect for each other but what's so crazy is you think of austin and like all these girls and that's my issue with austin is like whenever he's with someone he acts like they're his wife and like sierra he's so committed no uh madison lacroy oh yeah they were literally like living together and now it's like done and dusted.

Same with Chelsea and now like Sierra and Lindsay or whatever.

And that's why I kind of don't want Taylor to get involved with him.

But like eventually he has to settle down.

You would think.

But he like weirdly likes being settled in a relationship.

But like doesn't want to get married?

I don't get it.

Right, right.

Right.

What was the story?

Tom Schwartz going on Winter House.

Cute.

Cute.

Yeah.

I'm still probably not going to watch because I feel like if I'm not watching Summer House, I actually am watching Summer House, but like, it's just a lot.

I agree.

And if Paige and Craig aren't on it together, no, thank you.

Agreed.

Because that's really like the only place we get them together all the time.

I know, and they're really great together.

So not for me, but I hope he, you know, makes an interesting relationship happen for himself.

Something.

Something.

Well, those were the past five.

You definitely needed to know all of them.

And we're not done yet because it's Wednesday where we do our advice segment called Deer Toasters.

You guys write into us and Jax and I do our best to give our, you know, most

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No, so it's not toxic.

It's not, I mean, it's all about perspective.

It's tough love.

It's tough love.

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All right, dear toasters, for those who want to submit for next time, it's deartoasters at gmail.com.

I already gave you guys like a little bit of a

sneak peek before, but I got two more.

Ready?

Okay.

Hey, Jax, Letcher, Bryce, and Strice.

First off, those boys.

Terribly.

Love the pod.

You guys are doing the Lord's work.

I'm in need of a little help.

In December, my husband and I moved 2,000 miles across the country to a new city where we literally knew nobody.

It was the best decision of my life.

However, my husband still has no friends.

It's been really fortunate.

I've been been really fortunate to meet a few other women through various Facebook groups and stuff, but he has nobody.

I'm starting to get exhausted being the only one he knows in the area.

Every time I bring it up, he says it's different for guys and that he's just going to join an intramural sports team in March, but he deaf seems timid.

He hasn't made much of an effort to meet anyone, and I'm growing concerned.

Should I be worried?

How do I tell him he needs friends besides me without making him feel like a loser?

For the record, he has always been a quiet guy, but I'm still just kind of over being the only person he has a relationship with outside of work.

Please send my husband a friend.

Love a toaster who wants an evening to herself herself without her husband.

I feel that.

I feel like sometimes, you know, the man is more social.

Sometimes both are very social.

But a lot of times like it's the women who are making friends.

And I just wonder if like those friends that you've made through Facebook groups have just like, do they have husbands?

Couples dinner, double dates, like that's a really easy way to get him out there.

But it also just sounds like having

a social life like isn't very important to him.

But I do think having a social life is important to having like a balanced

life.

And even if it's just like one friend that he makes, like one person that he finds that he connects with, like that would be enough for him, Dainu.

So I think, unfortunately, like most things for us women, like you're gonna have to pick up the mantle and literally make friends for your husband.

Right.

And she wants to be proactive.

So honestly, what Jackie said is a perfect call.

Like, odds are a lot of the women that you've met have partners and go out to dinner.

Like, just hopefully, you know, one of them plays golf.

Like, yeah.

Find a common ground.

Yeah, where one of them like does video games or whatever your husband likes to do.

Right.

All it takes is one.

Intramural Sports League actually sounds really good.

Yeah.

Since he is timid, like, sorry to give you more work, but maybe you could go with him.

Yeah.

And just like make sure

he's putting himself out there and not just saying he's going to do something.

So

unfortunately, it's more work for you.

Yeah, no, of course.

But she did write in like asking for things she could do.

So I think she's open to like having to put this another problem on her back.

But I also think it's a situation where it's like, you do the work now and the payoff means nights out for you going forward.

Like that he has a friend and it could be years worth of payoff for a couple months worth of finding friends for your husband.

But you know what?

That's just life.

Like you get out what you put in.

Yeah.

And this sounds like a worthy cause, especially since like you love where you live.

He does

love your husband.

You want him to have a life outside of you.

He needs a friend to complain about you too.

Right.

No, that's called

health.

It's so healthy.

So yeah, Jackie's right.

Double date,

perfection, perfect place to start.

And then stay on top of him about like joining that intramural league and like, oh, I'll come with you.

Hey, babe.

Like stay on top of that, but you also can do, can do a lot with the double dates.

Yeah, that's like easy, low-hanging fruit, and fun for you because you got to be with your galley.

Right.

Everybody wins.

All right.

Final one.

Dear Jackson, Claude, Jax, congrats on baby number two.

Claudia, Portugal looked like the trip of a lifetime.

I write to you a desperate woman.

My husband has recently become obsessed with baths.

Long, long baths.

For background, we have two kids, five years and four months old.

We both work full-time.

His job requires...

Yeah.

His job requires him to be outside in the cold in the Utah winter.

I work from home.

Needless to say, we're both very busy people.

Lately, my husband has been taking these long baths at the most inopportune times while I'm trying to cook dinner, put the kids to bed, etc.

And to top it off, he always leaves a bathroom a mess, and we only have one tub.

He occupies it when the kids need their bath.

We all need a little me time, but it feels like he's trying to skip out on chores and kid kid duty.

How do I address this without sounding like a nagging, controlling wife?

That is tough because that's like kind of, that's, that's like actually my mission in life, like how to communicate things without coming off as like a bitch wife.

But sometimes like you just have to.

And this is so clearly like him avoiding responsibility.

Unacceptable.

Honestly, cut the water supply in the house off.

Like that's disgusting.

No, this is so unacceptable.

I'm sorry.

There's no me time until the kids are all asleep.

Yep.

Like the idea that he's luxuriating in the bath while you're cooking and trying to get the kids down, like, no, no, no.

And you know what?

Like, it's, it's the stereotype for a reason.

Be a nagging bitch wife.

Like someone

in his place.

And you know what?

If he doesn't listen to you, call his mother.

Like, this cannot go on.

Jackie, that's so true.

It's a stereotype for a reason.

Like, we're always having

made it be true.

Right.

Like, if you, maybe if you actually, like, had a life that you cared about, you would know what it's like.

Yeah.

Like, we, but that's so true.

It's a stereotype for a reason.

Like, you just blew my mind.

We don't do it because like I'm a nag.

I don't nag you.

I don't nag.

I'm not a naggy bitch in my regular life.

Brave nagging.

No, I wouldn't say like naggy is part of my personality.

In fact, I'm quite the opposite.

I will actually do as much as I physically can by myself in order to not ask for help.

But like still, I'm a nagging bitch wife.

Oh my God.

And so right.

It's, you know what?

It's born out of necessity.

Guess what, Charity Lou?

I'm proud.

You know what?

Same.

Yeah.

I'm a proud bitch naggy wife.

Yeah, and to the point when, like, I say do something, you're going to fucking do it.

Oh my God, I'm proud.

Yeah, proud.

I think we need to turn this on its head.

It's like, don't be ashamed to nag.

We need to take our power back.

Yeah, oh, the house looks great and the kids are alive and well.

It's because I'm a bitch naggy wife.

You're so right.

Yeah.

Oh, oh, you like this, this comforter?

Yeah, I'm a bitch naggy wife.

Yeah.

Oh, oh, the kids made it to school today?

Yeah, it's because I'm a bitch naggy wife.

And that's the only way things are going to get done around here.

By the way, I'm such a bitch naggy wife.

And like, I don't even have kids.

I'm going to get so much worse.

It's crazy.

Like, and you'd think like the increase in bitch nagginess would result in an increase in Ben's productivity and therefore like the nagging would go down?

No.

But you have...

You're dealing with a special situation with Ben.

Should we talk about the beans?

We should because people need to know what you are up against and why your naggy level is so high because his incompetence level is what you guys have never seen before in your lives.

You guys, I had the experience of a lifetime on Wednesday.

I can't even put into words.

Every time Ben does something like kind of gross or just like lazy, I'm always blown away.

And here are some examples of things that are just like standard Ben uses a knife because he cooks a lot and which is really nice.

Thank you for cooking.

and puts the knife back in the wooden knife container with food on it so now there's like food that lives in the knife container all the time uses half avocado because that's what the recipe calls for leaves the other half of an avocado on the counter always

when he's staying at my house and and zach and i have gone on vacation and they're locking up the house after me i came home and there was an avocado avocado on my counter

toenail i toenail is extreme yeah so every now and then

extremes

so i'm making dinner the other night, and I go into my cabinet where I keep my canned goods, you know, beans and such for chili.

And I see this can of chili that's not...

Sorry, can of beans, excuse me, that's not fully sealed.

It's not open all the way, but like that, you know, the soda can flicker thing has been like lifted a little and there's an opening in the can.

I'm like, has this open can of beans been sitting out?

Now,

my next mistake wasn't just like not throwing it out, but I had to see what was inside.

And I was thinking of the last time Ben made chili, which I was talking about on the podcast right now.

I was so proud of

right before Ben went to LA.

So what was that?

A month ago?

Two weeks.

Two, three weeks.

Three weeks.

Three weeks this open can.

Three weeks ago, you were romanticizing your life.

And here's the price you have to pay.

Three weeks ago.

Ben opened a can of beans partially and left it in the cabinet.

I should have just tossed it.

Like I knew it was going to be gross, but I did open it only because like if I had to experience it, so did Ben.

When I tell you I opened up up the can and I physically leapt backwards.

I'd never seen mold like that in my fucking life.

It was green, it was yellow, it was brown, it was blue, it was all the colors of a rainbow.

It, I didn't even, I didn't even know how to dispose of it, but I did take some very high quality photos.

You know what, maybe I'll post them on my Instagram if you guys are interested.

Just because like if I needed Ben to see it, I needed, then I was like, how do I dispose of this?

I can't just toss it in the trash.

Like that's disgusting.

It'll like spill out.

I put it in a Ziploc bag and then put the Ziploc bag in the trash and took the trash out.

It was so next level inhumane.

That's what I'm living with.

And that's, hi, I'm Claudia and I'm a bitch naggy wife.

Because it's like, not only do you need to nag your husband, Ben, clean up the kitchen, Ben, do the dishes.

Ben, put the beans away.

That's the level of minutiae you need to get to or else things like this happen.

Right.

Like I have to be so controlling in order just to stop a mold infestation in my home.

I told you, you should press charges against him for emotional distress.

He deserves to be arrested and to pay for his crimes.

Like, I'm not even kidding.

Like,

how do we make this man pay for what he did?

I don't know.

And, like, oh, and by the way, he came home and I didn't even, I didn't send the pictures.

I wanted to see him in person.

So when he came home, he came home late.

He had a long day.

He made himself a sandwich.

He comes and sits on next to the bed.

I'm like, oh, I want to show you something.

And I'm like, do you know you left a can of beans open in the cabinet for a few weeks?

He's like, I did.

Oh my God, I'm so sorry.

I'm like, yeah.

And I had to dispose of it and I saw what was inside.

And I showed him the pictures and he gets up.

He's like, ew, don't show me that.

I'm eating.

I'm like, you're eating.

I had to see it in fucking person, bitch.

You're being sensitive.

Ew, don't show me.

Can you believe?

Like, literally burns down the house.

I don't want to see it.

I don't want to see it.

Oh, my God.

So sensitive.

What's so crazy about this crime is he knew he was leaving town the next day because I could see how in the world Ben is like, I use beans all the the time.

I'll use them for my lunch tomorrow.

You should still put them in the fridge, but maybe you could say he really thought he was about to use them again, but he knew he was going out of town and he left them there like that in the pantry.

No, and when we go out of town, I do, I have like a whole routine, like take the trash out.

And literally we were leaving for Lisbon and like I did my whole routine.

I clog, I close all the drains, like I do a million things.

I took the trash out.

As I'm leaving, I find like a wrapper, something plastic.

I go to put it in the trash in the kitchen.

There's an avocado sitting in there.

In the kitchen.

I'm like, in the kitchen, in the kitchen trash.

I'm like, I just took this out so that there was no smelly food.

That would come back a big, smelly garbage.

I'm like, why is there an avocado in here?

And he thinks I'm so crazy.

I'm like, I know.

I'm not crazy.

I know, because it's like, my bitch snaggy wife yelled at me for throwing away an avocado.

That's how he tells it to his friends.

Yep, yep.

But it's like, after what you just heard,

I side with Turdy Lou.

I stand with Turdy Lou.

As we all should at all times.

This is egregious.

So, anyways, they made us this this way.

Yep.

We are byproducts of our environment.

And I will stop being a bitch nag when things get done without me asking.

I will stop being a bitch nag when there are things that don't need to be nagged on.

Yeah.

It's so simple.

So simple.

Those were deer toasters.

Again, that's deer toasters.gmail.com for that ones to write in.

I feel better.

I actually do.

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