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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Monday.

Oh my God, it's Monday and I would be forlorn, but I ain't because I'm sitting down with my girl.

Jax.

Hey, Jax, how you dern?

Hey, Claired, I'm good.

I do have to acknowledge that this is our first full week of the new year, which seems daunting, I'm sure, to everyone, but I know that we can make it through.

I just know it.

Well, I'm about to kind of change your life because we actually don't have an episode scheduled for Friday.

Oh,

yeah.

Sorry.

I meant like the world's first full week of.

Yeah, no.

And we still, we're still figuring out Friday, but it is the full week back in January, but it's exciting nonetheless because even though we should be forlorn, we're not.

It's a very exciting week here at the Toast.

I'm in Los Angeles.

Like you probably could tell if you're watching as a video, like, oh my god, he looks like a star.

Like, what's happened?

She got lip filler.

Yeah, no, I've been in LA since Friday, and I'm definitely different.

What are you thinking?

I know you're really tough on L.A.

I am really tough on LA.

I've been having a nice time.

Actually, I had a thought this morning as to why, you know, I'm trying to be positive in the new year.

I don't know if I've told that about you, told you that yet.

I'm just kind of like a different girl now.

Here's one thing I do like about la first of all it's like raining the weather is forlorn which is annoying but um i thought you would like that

i thought you would like that i do but i'm running around town like looking gorgeous i curled my hair this morning and then just to walk out of my hotel with like a soppy mop it's not good it doesn't look moppy but continue on so you're being positive i'm being positive so here is something positive that i noticed about los angeles today I was ordering breakfast at the hotel and I was ordering like really weird, because you know, I like just eat weird shit.

And the guy who was taking my order, like, didn't even blink.

Like, usually, when I order my weird things, I'm like, no, cheese, no, this, no, that.

He's like, okay, are you sure?

Like, you don't want the cheese?

Um, but he was just nodding along.

And I just realized, like, I guess everyone in LA is on some sort of weird diet.

Like, I'm not special.

Yeah, everyone in LA is picky.

It's actually weird to just say, like, I'll have the chicken sandwich, period.

Nobody says that.

Sorry.

End of sorry.

Nobody says that in LA.

And so I was feeling like really kind of just like a Los Angeles.

I feel like whenever we go to LA, I love LA.

I think it's so exciting.

I think it's so cool.

The weather is so nice, the lighting, you know, and we're never there for long periods of time.

So I never start to hate it.

And I just, you are never really so into it, but I feel like you're going to get into it this week.

Well, can I tell you also like how coming to LA is kind of different now that we're with Dear Media?

Like to be honest, I feel like when we used to come to LA, do like a week of shows, it was so much work.

Like, and we were doing everything ourselves.

And now I'm just like rolling into Dear Media.

Like, look at my microphone.

Like, I didn't set any of this up.

I have this like gorgeous studio.

I have a buccal chair.

I didn't even request the buccal chair and I got the buccal chair.

So it's like kind of like everything being done for me.

And I do like that part of it.

I'm not going to lie.

I just want to say like you sitting there with your legs crossed and your dear media mic flag with like your dear media studio background.

Like you're such a dear media girly.

I know, I'm literally the chubby confidential.

Like, I could just see you on like a reels on my feed, you know, where Claudia starts talking about like why she started juicing and how it changed her life.

No, and the thing about wellness is like, once you get into wellness, it's definitely a really hard space to crack into.

And then, like, once you do become well, your life will change.

You'll be more intentional and more attentive.

And I find wellness to be already like seeping into my, my daily life here.

I saw because you actually were juicing this morning with an orange juice.

I did.

I had, well, I got to the breakfast and there was like a whole menu for juices.

I was like, oh my God, these people are not okay.

And I was like, I'll have the Tropicana orange, no pulp.

And

so good.

Orange juice is a beverage that not enough people talk about.

I've been getting into it recently too, because I've had to make some freshly squeezed OJ for Harry a few times.

Like whenever he's feeling a little under the weather, I'll do that.

And of course, mommy has to try it, make sure she's not poisoning her angels.

And mommy likes what she sees.

It's so good.

I feel like everyone drinks orange juice when they're a kid and then they forget about it as an adult.

But when you're hungover, I swear to God, it's like sucking from the teat of Mother Earth.

It's so delicious.

It is so delicious.

So now you're a juicer.

You're a juice check.

I'm a juice check.

Okay, so let's also talk about like meat your update from the weekend.

I just need to to say, I know yesterday was a big day for football in general, but it was, it felt bigger like for us because of our pre-week recap.

Like we were pretty much like ESPN last week.

And I had so much invested in every game.

Like I was looking at the Eagles game.

I was looking at the Cowboys game.

I was looking at the 49ers game, of course, because like that's my favorite team.

And then also I was looking at the Packers game.

has nothing to do with your weekend.

So I'm sure it didn't cross your mind, but like they were playing the Lions.

It was, it was the Sunday night football game, so I was just like sitting down catching up with Zach and Carrie Underwood came on, and I was quaking the house down.

It was so good, Claudia.

I don't know if you've watched like this year's yet, and if you've watched it in full recently, but like, it's so good.

I had chills, chills.

You're talking about the game or Carrie Underwood's performance?

Carrie Underwood's song.

I haven't seen the new version.

She ushered me into the game, which I was like interested in because I like Green Bay Packers and the Lions, I like Aaron Rogers, I do.

And then the Lions had a quarterback that I had never seen before and he was looking mighty handsome.

So that's the thing about football.

There's like a lot of hot guys.

So I was interested and then they were explaining the stakes of the game.

That was a high stakes game because if the Packers win, they go to the playoffs.

And if the Lions win, then the Seahawks go to the playoffs, which makes no fucking sense.

Oh.

Oh, okay.

Right.

And then the announcers were saying, like, this is a high-stakes game for both teams because, you know, the Lions want to finish out their season strong.

Like, either way, they're not going to the playoffs.

Like, for the Packers, this is make or break.

I wouldn't say the stakes were high for both teams.

I would say you guys are trying to, like, make this an interesting game.

Yeah, no, I wouldn't say it's the same either.

Right.

Anyways, spoiler alert.

The Packers lost.

Very sad.

Oh.

And the Seahawks are going to be a lot of fun.

That was spoiler alert.

I didn't know that.

The Seahawks are going to the playoffs.

So I have no

Seahawks girls.

I'm happy for the Seattle Toasters.

First of all, you should be a Seahawks girl because of your favorite movie, Draft Day, first of all.

What do they have to do with it?

Isn't it the Seahawks?

Doesn't that take place in Seattle?

No, it's the Browns, Cleveland.

Duh.

Oh.

Right?

Okay, I need to see that movie again.

But here, okay, so here's where we come in, like to make everything about us.

Now that the Seahawks have made the playoffs, they're playing the 49ers this weekend.

So that is the game I am going to.

Thank you to the Eagles for winning, thus confirming there is a 49ers game this weekend that I can go to while I am in LA, well, West Coast.

I want to thank everyone for sending positive vibes to the Eagles.

I'd like to thank the Eagles for their great work, but more importantly, I'd like to thank the Giants for doing abysmally.

Like it wasn't even, I didn't even have a pit.

Like I turned the game on from the second I watched, I was like, oh my God, this is like...

the worst team in the world playing the best team.

It wasn't even a question.

So grateful to the Giants, grateful to everyone.

And I'm grateful to myself because I took a risk and it paid off.

And there was one in the hand and there was two in the bush.

And I got the two in the bush, bitch.

And that's exciting.

I'm excited for you.

Oh, so I guess that the Packers game was relevant to our discussion because you could have been seeing Aaron Rodgers play this weekend.

Thang or not.

Oh, shit.

Yeah, sorry.

Okay.

Well, nevertheless, I'm going to the game this weekend.

Thank God.

You know, there's so much like sports energy.

I didn't even realize.

Again, not to make everything about me, but I'm here in LA and everyone's like, are you here for the game?

I'm like, the 49ers game this weekend?

Yeah, I am.

Like, how did you know that?

No, tonight is college football championship and it happens to be in LA.

I'm just wrapping my head around Georgia.

I'm just wrapping my head around the AFC and the NFC.

And so the colleges are going to have to take a back seat.

Yeah, no.

It's just like, it's kind of furthering my point

that everything really is about us.

Because they had a game where you are currently?

Yeah.

It's just like kind of a crazy coincidence.

Yeah, when it rains, it pours.

So who are you rooting for?

TCU or Georgia?

It's so hard when you don't care, you know?

Yeah.

I feel like we have more Georgia.

Oh, it's the dogs with a D-A-W.

It's the dogs.

It's the dogs.

Yeah.

Why does it have to be like that?

Why does it have to be spelled like that?

Like, that.

No, yeah.

Is the school on Long Island?

no dogs

why did they spell it like that if they didn't spell it like that i would be like oh the dogs the bryson the strice but not the zorgs

the zorgs like if i was at the game today and i'd be like go dogs yeah let's get some coffee and root for the dogs i love water

so for that reason i'm reading for tcu

okay what does tcu stand for texas

christian texas christian university a question i asked last weekend when I saw them playing, so I have the answer.

I would have thought it stood for the Christian University.

I

would have thought it would be like Tennessee Central University.

I wouldn't have assumed the C was a religion.

I would have assumed it's like a region.

Yeah.

A region versus religion.

Tennessee Central didn't make it to the playoffs.

No, and they were so heartbroken that they didn't make it, but there's always next year, Tennessee Central University.

Go dogs.

Go dogs.

So that was like a major part of my weekend.

And then like another part of my weekend was kind of like the most probably full circle moment that's ever happened to me.

Please tell us because you went to a big soiree this weekend, star-studded.

I think I saw you in TMZ, was it?

Claudiasha.

Yeah, your girl.

TMZ.

Yeah, I was in TMZ.

I don't know how they knew I was there, but I was.

That's what I came to town for.

One of my friends, Kate, it was his birthday party.

And then I was like, if I'm going to fly all the way out, we'll make a whole week of it.

So that's what we're doing.

But I flew in for his birthday party on Saturday night.

And it was fabulous.

It was so fun, star-studded.

There was like performances.

I saw Kelsey Ballerino, man.

She was amazing.

Jeff Frost, Tiffany Haddish.

Like, it was really, it was stunning.

But most notably.

Kind of like someone from my former life was there.

And I just, I was shocked.

And I had a really

like surprising interaction with him.

It was Billie Eichner.

He had no answer.

No, it wasn't Maverick.

Maverick actually had texted me that he couldn't make it.

But he said, my friend Billy's going.

Make sure you like talk to him.

So I saw Billie Eichner.

Now, if you've been listening to the show for a while, if you read my book, you know like a huge part of my

rise to fame.

had to do with my cameo on Billy on the Street.

When I was in college, I was on my way to a class.

It was called writing the essay.

It was the worst fucking class if you went to NYU.

You had to take it.

Everyone knows, oh my God, the worst class ever.

And

I was ambushed on the street by Billy and his crew.

And I,

there's this segment.

It's horrifying.

It's not.

It's not.

It's totally fine.

You're so cute.

You're so much a college student.

Okay, but like you had a big distracting hat on and you played the game and you're just being cute.

And I feel like as much as you get like, say yes to the dress people in your DMs, like you also get like, is this you?

I'm Billy on the street.

So true.

I get so many DMs.

It's like my thing.

And it was really my first time ever being on camera.

And like I became obsessed.

I hadn't even known what the show was.

It was just very exciting.

And so I was at the party and I saw Billie Eichner.

I was like, oh my God, Ben was like, you have to tell me you were on the street.

And I was like, no, I would like didn't want to be like embarrassing.

But then the person that Billy was with, I don't know if it was like a boyfriend, I think it was just a friend.

He was a really nice guy.

He like had said something to me.

And so I thought that was like my opportunity to like start a combo with Billy.

And I was like, Billy,

hi, I'm Claudia.

And I was actually on the street.

Now, I don't know why I had like a preconceived notion of how Billy Eichner would be, you know,

as a person, not as a celebrity, but I kind of assumed he would be like kind of bitchy.

I was so wrong.

He was so nice.

First of all, when I told him I was on the street, he was like giddy.

He was like, no way.

He was like interested in what I was saying.

And he was like, You were on the street when?

I'm like, season two, episode three.

I think that's what it is.

Um, I was wearing a hat, and he was like, Oh my God, did I make fun of you?

Like, were you mad?

I'm like, You read me to filth, you made fun of my outfit, and I deserved it.

And it was so funny.

And like, I lived for every moment of it.

It was my first time on camera.

It like gave me this thirst for fame.

I literally said, I'm like, that literally started my whole career.

I would not be sitting on this chair at this party if it weren't for our interaction.

So, for that, I'm grateful.

He was so nice.

He actually told me he like doesn't meet a lot of people who have been on the street and he doesn't meet them.

Like maybe like someone will come up to him like at a restaurant.

Maybe they can get in social settings.

Yeah.

He

was so nice.

It was like such a positive interaction.

And it was like, it left me feeling really

like, it warmed my heart.

I, I, I really, I, I kind of like love Billie Eichner now.

So you're two for two on positive interactions with Billie Eichner.

I'm two for two on positive interactions with Billie Eichner.

Yes, Jackie, I am.

That's so wonderful to hear.

You love to hear when a celebrity is really nice and sweet and genuine.

No, and then we like had this whole conversation about like street interviewing.

It's like such a thing now on TikTok.

Everyone's like always running up to people on the street.

And like Billy really invented that.

I feel like a lot of people forget.

Like he was really the first person to do like man on the street, like ambush comedy.

And he's really so impressive.

And I said, you have to bring Billy on the street back.

It was iconic.

Yeah, it really was.

Did you have any other positive celebrity social interactions that you would like to share with the class that we need to know, like, who's a good person out there?

I feel like everyone was pretty nice, honestly.

Like,

I saw my girly Paris,

Kelsey Mallerini, she performed.

Oh my God.

She is so like breathtakingly talented.

Everyone in the room was shook up, like, by her talent.

It was, it's an intimidating room, you know, lots of celebs, Hollywood peeps, and she's, you know, just a girl from Nashville.

And she just got up there with her guitar and sang two songs.

She sang, If You Go Down, I'm Going Down Two, from her new album.

And then she sang Peter Peter,

which was, yeah, perfect song

for a birthday.

Perfect song.

Next level.

It was really just a great event.

A lot of people were messaging me asking if I saw Britney Spears, who was at the party.

And when I tell you, when I woke up the next morning and found out she was there, I was shocked because I didn't even see her.

Now, that's not that crazy because I'm like always, you know, thinking about me and like looking at me in the mirror and like just minding my own business, drinking a lot.

So I didn't see her.

But i heard she was there that's exciting yeah we were in the presence huge we're in the presence of greatness um tell me about your weekend jax make a chili

my weekend no i did not make a chili and that's like hurtful that you would suggest that after everything i've been through

after i was after my chili yeah yeah it's like used as a weapon against me even though people are still making chilies in solidarity and i see all your tags and it's really beautiful how we've all come together but my weekend was great it was a little bit different from your weekend, just the smallest bit of difference.

I was just home with my boys, all my boys.

We hung out with the Shapiros and we had some good times, you know?

I did not go car shopping.

I did not go car shopping.

And actually, I think it might be easier for me to go on a weekday, especially now that our schedule is a little different.

So hopefully this week I will go.

And now I'm leaning towards Volvo.

Like last week, I was leaning towards Lexis, but a lot of people have weighed in.

One, I think the biggest factor in in bringing me towards Volvo is Edward Cullen.

Like, when you think about what a car represents and what kind of vibe you're putting forth, like, I want to be putting forth Cullen vibes.

And of course, that really, like, and it's, if it's good enough for Edward, and you know that, like, Stephanie Meyer researched and researched what car she should choose for Edward.

And she came up with that.

Like, why do I need to do more research?

If that's about us.

100%.

When I was,

when we were talking last week about like car associations, like where you associate associate different brands with, I had totally forgotten that the Volvos were an exclusively Cullen car.

And that changes everything.

It really changes everything.

So I'm fully on board.

I'm in support.

As long as I get like my seat heater in the passenger seat, you know, not lights, like lots of legroom, Apple CarPlay, all that stuff.

I'm okay with that.

I'm great.

I think that's wonderful.

Yeah, so I think that's where I'll be headed first.

And it's like for the Cullins and for the mamas for real.

So I feel like that's going to be what's best for me.

So hopefully I'll have an update about that this week.

But other than that, just relaxing weekend at home, not much to report.

And it's like kind of like discussing not much to report when you literally live in the same house as my

king, Roldy.

What's new with him?

Well, he got a car this weekend.

So that was exciting for him.

Harry got a car before his mom.

He did.

He has one of his like little toy cars.

We put it together this weekend.

He was driving around his new whip, and he was obsessed-like, obsessed beyond.

We played with it all weekend.

He never got tired of it, we never got tired of seeing him in it.

It was so much fun.

I feel like I could see Harry just like picking up bitches in that car, bitches being me.

Yeah, no, it's a convertible, and like it plays music.

He was just like driving in it, and it literally looks like he was in Miami, like cruising down the side of the beach.

I'm in Miami, bitch.

That's literally Harry, like

imagine Harry in the pubs.

Like, he picked up Bruno, and the two of them were just like cruising for girls, and it was really

two of them picking up bitches.

Yeah, they wouldn't refer to women that way, but

they were looking for nice young ladies.

No, I think that Harry would never refer to like a woman as a bitch, but I could see Bruno fucking up some bitches, you know?

Only with Anolia on her worst day.

She needs it.

She does.

Don't tell Snitch, even though everyone's about to DM her.

They said Nolia needs to be fucked up.

All right, well, we have a fabulous show today.

We've got Sturries, we've got Heart, we've got Charisma, and I feel like there's no better time than the present to dive into Fast V.

What do you think, Jux?

I think it is time without further ado

about sports, which we just like can't stop talking about these days.

Like, I can't.

We don't have any sports stories, but you know know us will find a way to make it about sports.

And then, in turn, find a way to make it about us.

Because sports is about us.

Sports is about us.

Sports is life, bro.

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Now, I meant to ask you this before we dove into the podcast, but now it's too late.

Like, cause I was also looking this morning for stories and it's impossible to open your phone without being inundated by something Prince Harry has said.

Are we discussing any Prince Harry nonsense today?

No, like I can take a fucking hint with you yelling at me saying you don't want to talk about it.

So I kind of read between the lines on that and I I didn't choose any more Megan and Harry stories.

No, I'm glad because like I'm so subtle.

I didn't know if you had like picked up on that.

Yeah.

No, I'm like pretty with it, I would say.

Like I can really like understand people and I felt like that's what you were trying to tell me, but you couldn't find the words.

No, and you definitely understand people really well, but you really understand me.

And I'm not the type of person to just like kind of say how I feel outright.

I'll just kind of skirt around the issue.

And what I love about you and just working with you as my sister is like, you know, you get me.

Yeah, because you really are like passive aggressive and you just like want people to read your mind.

And that's what I do, though.

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So true.

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So no, we will not be discussing any of the craziness that's going on.

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Like if If this were a one-woman show, like we would be talking about it every single day because the craziness continues to unfold.

Like he doesn't stop sitting down for interviews, but we won't be talking about any of that.

Instead, we'll be talking about the other big news from the weekend, which is that Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Jen Shaw has been sentenced to six and a half years in prison for fraud.

The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Jen Shaw has been sentenced to six and a half years or 78 months in prison for wire fraud.

Her attorney told Page 6 on Friday that, quote, Jen is deeply regrets the mistakes that she has made and is profoundly sorry to the people she has hurt.

Jen has faith in our justice system, understands that anyone who breaks the law will be punished, and accepts this sentence sentence as just.

Jen will pay her debt to society, and when she's a free woman again, she vows to pay her debt to the victims harmed by her mistakes.

Okay, I was really shocked.

Of course, on Friday's episode, we were waiting with bated breath, refreshing our phones every 10 seconds, waiting to see what the verdict would be.

And then it came out literally 20 minutes after our episode dropped.

But I'm actually glad that it did because I had like a lot of questions.

about it and I was able to read up on her sentencing.

And I said before, like I know their crimes were not similar, but I am comparing this almost just instinctively to the Christley case because the Christleys were sentenced to 12 years in prison like a month ago.

So it's just in my mind, like reality star, you know, finance crimes.

And I found her sentence to be so much lower, especially because when that big thing came out, when she was arrested, the attorney general, she was facing up to 30 years.

So I just.

Six and a half years is obviously a long time to like not seek your family and stay in prison.

But like based on what she was up against, it doesn't, doesn't, it feels like she, she got a good sentence.

Yeah, I don't know why I thought she was going away for like 50 years, right?

Because that's how they made it seem when the whole thing happened, like the FBI, attorney general, U.S.

federal government.

Like it was definitely, and I think her taking her, the plea deal and

what's the word?

Like admitting guilt.

Pleading, pleading guilty was huge for her.

And so that's what I learned when I was just like looking into the Christley thing is like the Christleys went to trial.

They like wasted, like, when you waste the government's like time and energy and money when you are guilty, I think you get a harsher sentence than like just admitting your guilt, saving the court, the judge, the jurors time, and they'll give you leniency for that.

So she at first wasn't pleading guilty.

She was going to go to trial.

And then a few weeks ago or months ago, I forgot how long, she said, yeah, I did that shit.

And that was smart because that's how she ended up with six and a half years.

I don't know what she would have gotten if they had went through the whole trial.

Yeah, or she could have been proven innocent if she felt that she was innocent.

That's why you go to trial if you think you're innocent.

Yeah, well, I guess she wasn't.

So

it's not that, I mean, six and a half years is a long time, but like, I feel like by the time she comes out, like, housewives will still be on the air and like she'll be back.

I just thought that like she would get a sentence that was so long that like whenever she comes back, like there's no more housewives.

Like we've moved on, like you and I will be 50 years old.

The aliens have inhabited the planet.

I know what you mean.

But no.

And then Dumois posted something, which of course you take with a grain of salt, that Real Houses of Salt Lake City is going on hiatus.

Like they're kind of going to like

clean with the cast.

It's really bad, the show.

And they're going to take some time off, like maybe pull a Dallas, not cancel it, but like it won't be around for a while.

And so it kind of makes sense.

Like maybe they take off like six and a half years.

Like I feel like at this point, Dallas has been off the air for at least three years.

And it doesn't feel like it's been that long.

So another three, and then if it were to come back in another three, that would be like Salt Lake City waiting for jen it's not inconceivable no it's not inconceivable especially i don't know how it works with federal crimes but like people get sentenced to like 10 years and they get out in six for good behavior or whatever like she she i don't know i don't know if with federal crimes like you i think you have to serve i think i read somewhere like 80 of your sentence so i don't know what the minimum amount of time that she could serve is but yeah and i just i really feel like

even if the dumois thing's not true but like the way the real house size of salt lake city were given this like gem like they they

they could have made these last two seasons into like historically good seasons.

But the way that like this gen thing happened, which is like the craziest, most global historic news in Housewives history, and then they're going on hiatus because they flopped so much, like it's so crazy to me.

I feel like I know I can't stop talking about it, but it should have been

huge and it wasn't.

Yeah.

Well, they weren't equipped.

And all of this happened after the first season of Housewives.

So maybe they just like were not up to the challenge.

They weren't seasoned enough housewives.

Yeah.

They didn't know how to do

it.

How to do the job.

That's definitely what it was.

And so when I compare it again, like to the Christleys, first of all, it's double the time.

They're going away for 12 years.

The Christleys are older.

And it's like by the time you get out, like six years is a long time, but like it's not like you'll, you know, you see Mr.

Kids growing up.

Like

it does feel like a very lenient sentence.

It really does.

Yes, it does in the the grand scheme of what could have been.

And in the grand scheme of what she did.

And it's like the Christleys defrauded like the government and banks.

And even though I will say what I also read and discovered was like they weren't, you know, defrauding Citibank.

It was these like smaller southern like mom and pop banks, still like big institutions, but not, you know, chase.

So it's still fucked up for sure, but I think what Jensha did is like 45 times worse.

Yes, I would agree.

So, this saga, which like I feel like it all happened kind of quickly.

Like, when she, from when she got arrested, like, when we read about it, it doesn't feel like it's been that long, even though it has been what, like, two years?

Two, three years, maybe.

It does feel like the whole process was pretty quick.

Yeah,

in hindsight, but not what it felt like for so long.

It was like, we'll see, innocent till proven guilty.

Now she's pled guilty.

What's the sentence, though?

Like, now it's really over for now until whenever she starts serving.

And then I'm sure we'll see her on Real House Eyes in six and a half years.

Yeah, no, and I also probably would assume it didn't feel like it went by really quickly for Jen Shah.

But also, I think that

do you want it to go by quickly or do you want to drag it out because then you get more time before you have to go?

Yeah, but then you're also just delaying the inevitable.

Like, yeah, you want to push back what you go into prison, but you're going to have to go anyway, so you might as well just get it over with.

Yes, maybe at this stage, now that she knows what her sentence is, but like along the way, you can kind of delude yourself into thinking, like, well, maybe I'll be proven innocent.

Okay, well, maybe the sentence won't be that long.

Like, I think now that she's gotten her sentence, I think a lot of people do want to go and start it as soon as possible.

But over the last few years,

dragging out might not have been like the worst thing for her.

And it bought her more time on the show.

That's true.

And like more opportunities to make money because I'm sure she also owes some sort of restitution to her victims.

Yes, she should.

As she should.

And I I don't know what federal prison is like.

I don't know what, you know, is it,

I think I read she was going away to a minimum security prison in Texas.

Yeah, she's going to Texas.

I don't know.

Are federal prisons like worse, better?

Is it like, you know, the Lori Lachlan type of prison?

Like, is it like chill?

Is it camp?

I don't know.

I don't know either.

Wishing her best, you know, wishing her the best.

Wishing her victims, you know, a speedy recovery because

it's so fucked up.

Like, it's beyond.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, ready for our next story?

Yeah, I am.

A little Nepo Baby news because Haley Bieber is weighing in on the discourse with a fashion statement.

Haley Bieber is not afraid to make a fashion statement.

The Road Skid founder stepped out in LA on Friday and was photographed in a parking garage wearing a baby tee with the words Nepo Baby printed across the front.

She obviously like styled it in her classic way: jeans, some stomper boots, little purse, little bag.

And people are quaking.

She's really embracing the controversy.

Some celebrities like Gwyneth commented being like, I'm going to need a bunch of these shirts.

And I'm kind of loving her approach to this.

I agree.

I think a lot of people thought this was like a major serve for her.

Like, like, because on the Nepo baby topic, like, we want to hear from everyone except the Nepo babies.

And like, I think a lot of Nepo babies during the discourse have come on and like responded and just kind of defended themselves, being like, I've worked really hard.

And there's no doubting that, but like, shut up.

Like, it's just kind of like,

it's not, it's not illegal to be a Nepo baby, but like, don't talk.

Like, seriously, shut up.

And Hailey Bieber just kind of owning it with the t-shirt is so like iconically iconic.

And it's just, it's exactly what we needed.

Cause like, we don't want to hear from them.

Like, yep, I'm a Nepo baby, period.

End of story.

And that's what she did.

And like, Gwyneth getting involved and like commenting.

It's like, it's, this was such a sleigh.

It was a sleigh and a half.

It was.

And it shows like, you know, a level of self-deprecation, like humor and personality, which I think underscores the point that Nepo Babies are trying to make when they do try and speak about it, which is like, I have more to offer than just my birthright.

And also the fact that she is.

very famous for being very stylish and then she's like taking the the the title and putting her spin on it.

I think it's really a beautiful moment in celebrity Nepo babies taking back back their power.

I completely agree.

Like, and honestly, I didn't see Hailey Bieber as like someone who would do this.

I feel like she like avoids all certain types of like controversy or conflict or even just like, you know, sticky subjects.

So I feel like she would have just let this conversation happen around her.

She's obviously a Nepo baby.

She's not going to speak out on it.

She's not going to defend herself.

She's not going to defend Nepo Baby.

She's not going to attack Nepo Babies.

I feel like she's very conflict diverse.

So this is kind of like a big deal.

Yeah, I agree.

I didn't see this for her.

But also, I feel like when we talk about the biggest Nepo babies, like who comes to mind, weirdly, I don't think we've talked about her once, even though, of course, she is a Nepo baby, period.

But like when we were going back and forth with names, I feel like there are some that get the most credit

attention and backlash, probably.

And I feel like she inserted herself into this conversation when really she wasn't getting that much heat over it.

Actually, I'm not in her DMs and in her comments.

Like, I don't know what people say to her.

But, and it's just like, I could say, the Jelena stands don't ever say anything about Haley, but like she experiences it differently.

But I do feel like she's not even top 10 of who you think of when you think of Nepo Abbey.

That's true.

And I think it's mostly because like her dad's kind of like a flop.

Like he's certainly like a an actor, but when you think of the Baldwin family, you think of Alec.

So I think part of it has to do with her being like the niece of Alec and her dad, like definitely being like an accomplished actor, but not like a big Hollywood wheeling and dealing power.

Like he's not that famous.

So, I think mostly it's because of that.

Yeah.

And also, I don't know, maybe it's also because, like, at this point, she's also married to someone who's so big.

So, what's the word for that person?

Right now, that's an amazing call.

Married and like NEPA wife.

I feel like if everything in the world made sense, like Haley Bieber would have been Alec Baldwin's daughter, and Ireland Baldwin would have been Stephen Baldwin's daughter.

Do you know what I mean?

I do, but

I do and I don't.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

On the surface level.

Like a fame,

on a surface lyrics level.

Yes, which we love lyrics that go beyond the surface sometimes, but sometimes we just need to stay on the surface.

And I know we have so many new listeners and it's so annoying when like we always reference old inside jokes, but like I'm genuinely begging you to go find the reference of surface lyrics.

It is probably one of my favorite stories ever told.

I don't know what episode it is.

You don't tell it often.

You haven't told it more than once, so just tell it.

I was in Nashville in maybe like 2018.

Ben and I used to have like this big partnership with Diageo Spirits.

So we would travel mostly with like Captain Morgan and some of their like, you know, millennial-y brands.

Um, and we became really friendly with the people who worked there.

Like, I still am friends with a lot of them, and they knew we loved country music and Nashville.

And so, I had never been to Nashville, and they were planning a it wasn't an influencer trip, it was a um

like taste makers, blog,

Food writers, like

they were going to the George Dickell distillery in Nashville.

It was going to be, it wasn't an influencer trip.

It was just like this press trip.

And they were like, if you guys want to come, like, you can come.

Like, it's not like an influencer fancy trip.

Like, you've never been to Nashville and like you love country music.

And Dustin Lynch was performing.

So we just like hopped along like on this influence, on this writer's trip full of like writers from around the world who write about like.

liquor, like cocktails and food.

And so it was a kind of like an older, kind of like weird crowd, but like me and Ben were just happy to be there.

And we were doing like a day of activities.

We went to the distillery and then we went to like,

what's it called?

Hattie B's hot chicken.

So we're in this car with a bunch of like fancy older writers and we're talking about Nashville and it's me and Ben's first time

and how I was like, I said, I'm like, I love country music.

They're like, really?

That's so weird.

You're from New York, yada, yada.

And we were talking about why we like country music.

And Ben like

answered for us, which is just weird because like Ben doesn't even like country music as much as I do.

And he goes, he gave like probably the weirdest answer anyone could ever give as to why they like country music.

Ben goes, yeah, no, it's just like, if you listen to the lyrics, they're so not like surface lyrics.

And the car was just silent.

Like nobody responded because one, like, what the fuck does that even mean?

And two, like,

okay, surface lyrics?

Like, what?

When we got out of the car, I roasted Ben to fucking filth.

I'm like, what the fuck did you just say?

He was like, so embarrassed.

Like, nobody answered him.

Nobody even made a sound.

Like, the conversation died at that moment.

Nobody said anything until we got out of the car.

And now I can't say the word surface, whether I'm talking about like a surface cleaner or, you know, on the surface, it has to be surface lyrics.

And he said lyrics, not lyrics.

Which is just another

wrong.

Yeah.

Wrong.

So that's where surface lyrics come from, in case you were wondering.

Yeah, and that's why on the surface lyrics, it would seem like a Hilly Bieber should be Alec's child.

Oh, speaking of Alec Baldwin, I'm sure this isn't a story because it's moronic, but I wanted to share.

Did you see Alec Baldwin is being mocked endlessly for his most recent Instagram post?

I saw he was being mocked, something to do with a million followers.

So he made this video, like, begging his followers to follow Ilaria, or as I like to call her, Hillary from Boston.

He was begging people to follow her.

Her birthday's coming up and he wants to help her reach a million followers.

And it was just like kind of like something I would do, you know?

And like, why is Alec Baldwin this like major actor, you know, doing this?

It was kind of beneath him.

And he got roasted.

And that's just what happened with Talon Haldin this weekend.

When you fuck around, you find out.

Yeah, no, that's happens when you act out and like act embarrassing on social media.

Sorry.

Especially when you're Alec Baldwin and like you've just like bigger things you should be worried about no especially when you're alec baldwin who like in you know recent years has really become like not

like not taken seriously i think not

favorite the hillary of it all had a lot to do with it and i think him urging people like begging for followers and then it being his scam artist and a delve wife it just wasn't it wasn't the vibe Right.

I would say also the shooting has a lot to do with it.

Of course, I didn't want to bring that up, but yeah.

That's why the fuck do you have to bring that up?

By the way, you have to get on TikTok.

I'm on TikTok because I talk to you every day.

So true.

I'm kind of like the personification of TikTok.

You really are.

Why the fuck do you have to bring that up?

I don't know.

It's germane to Alec Noben.

It is germane, and it's still, in my mind, one of the craziest things that's probably ever happened in the history of Hollywood.

And it's so sad.

It is so sad.

Like this woman, this mom, this young, talented woman died.

It is so sad.

That's why, like, I, that's honestly why I didn't bring it up because, like, at the end of the day, it's like this crazy Alec Baldwin thing, but it's also like literally somebody died.

So, it, it, to me, it's one of the craziest and saddest things that's ever happened.

Yeah, but I think it would be like sadder to not forget about it and just kind of like let it pass without just like, you're right, constantly being like remembering her

aggrave

Are you ready for our next story?

Switching gears in a major way to a little beauty business news.

Oh my God.

Yes.

I'm so glad you chose this story.

Morphe Cosmetics is closing all U.S.

retail stores.

Employees say they were left in the dark for weeks.

Morphe Cosmetics, a makeup brand once synonymous with YouTube Beauty Culture, confirmed Thursday it was shutting down all its U.S.

stores.

A move that shocked its employees, outreached customers, and left some experts questioning the brand's future.

Well, it sounds like the future is bleak if if they just close down all their stores, but okay.

The news comes out.

Yeah, I feel like there's actually nothing questionable about the future.

I don't think that's

about the future.

I have questions about the past.

Right.

Like, how the fuck, why the fuck do you have to bring that up?

No, like, how did they fumble the ball so big?

Well, I think it's more of a statement on YouTube beauty culture than it is on Morphe because Morphe was just an extension of YouTube beauty culture.

I feel like they didn't expand.

Right now, I mean, based on what you tell me, like beauty culture is is really popping off on TikTok.

So like Michaela should have a line at Morphe, Alex Earl, based on, and this is just me, you know, getting my information from my favorite trusted news source, McLurdia Laturgia.

And that's.

Just how you know, like I genuinely, um, like I'm right about everything because you're a hundred percent right.

I think it's, I think a lot of people are shocked because beauty is, is a space that's so impacted by influencer culture.

So a brand that like dove headfirst into influencer culture failing like this, it's like, well, is this a statement on influencer, you know, like the value of influencers?

And no, actually, I think maybe like two years ago when TikTok started popping off is really when Morphe started dying off in my mind.

Like, they were so in YouTube culture and that was great for a while.

But you're right, like the epicenter of beauty trends is TikTok right now.

And I feel like when they launched Morphe 2, they made Charlie and Dixie the face.

And then that was the last thing they ever did with TikTok.

And I don't know why they didn't lean in more.

You're right, like Michaela and even so many of those big YouTube people are now huge on TikTok.

And I think they value it just as much as they value their YouTube channels.

Like Nikki Tutorials is huge.

Jackie Ina.

Like, I don't know why Morphe didn't keep up that energy past the YouTube era.

Yeah.

I mean, maybe there's more, you know, behind the scenes where it's like they couldn't afford to invest more in like these new people.

And I understand like going so hard on influencer culture.

And I don't think that that's a bad business model.

But if you're going to do that, you have to be aware that like influencer culture changes every five minutes and you have to change with that.

And like, I wouldn't give every influencer like their whole ass line.

Like, I'd be like, let's clap on a product.

Like, oh, Alex Earl's always wearing the white eyeliner.

Like, let's turn Alex Earl eyes.

How do you know that?

Because I

don't know.

I really don't.

Well, I follow Alex Earl on Instagram.

So I get bits and pieces of Miss Earl.

What do you think about her?

She's kind of everything of the sort.

She's really fabulous.

She's just like, you could tell she, and I know from you that she's just like in college and being a college girl,

so much of her content, she's just like going to party.

She like posts with her friends.

And then she also does like influency type things.

But it does feel like following someone who's in college who's just like famous at their college, which is fun.

Yeah.

It must be exciting for her to like go to college parties with just like people she's hung out with for the last four years, but then also like go to LA and meet Selena Gomez.

Like really best, how to Montana.

Yeah.

And also to like post from like her regular life stuff.

And it must be so fun for her friends to be like, oh my God, this is crazy.

No, I feel like when we like years ago had Danielle Carolan on the toast, you spoke to her a lot about that because she was in college at the time and she was like blowing up on YouTube.

And it's like so cool to have these like two different like worlds, but then be like kind of famous in college.

Yeah, famous in college.

So it also is important to note about the Morphe thing.

They're closing their retail stores.

I think they're still going to be.

They still are a beauty brand.

So I think also this is probably just a statement on retail in general.

I think there's a lot of successful makeup brands and they don't have their own stores.

I would argue that most, most don't.

Yes, but I actually think that retail is pretty important for beauty.

Like I think for a lot of other categories, you can pretty much write out retail completely, but like to go to the store and to see the colors in person and like to swab it, like that's something that you can't get online.

And so I don't think that like retail needs to be dead for the beauty industry in general.

Like I do think that I sometimes order my makeup online, but I really do prefer to go to the store.

Yeah, of course.

But like if you're going to go to a makeup store, you're going to go to Sephora that sells 50 brands or are you going to go to Morphe that sells one brand?

Well, it depends what you're looking for.

I'm saying these individual brands having their own stores, like that's really difficult to maintain.

I feel like the only brand who continues to do that and is still killing it is Mac.

And that's because Mac is like the original beauty brand ever, like the first one ever made.

But that's not why they're still killing it.

Then why why do you think they are i have no idea what like i don't really shop there i don't know what their secret sauce is but just because they were the first honestly sometimes when you're the first you're also the last to like yeah but like they're they're so at the epicenter of like makeup artist like i feel like if you want to be a makeup artist you have to have worked at mac it's like this really prestigious which is so crazy because i actually don't think i use a single mac product

at one time yes and i think for a long time that sustained their business but like why they are still in business today i would love to know

because

the whole industry has changed.

They're not really like TikTok-y, and but sometimes just like quality is quality.

Like, I don't care what's going on on TikTok, like I want good shit, and I know that Mac has it.

That's it, but they have major, like, quality,

major quality, period.

I'm gonna end the sentence.

They have the major quality,

major quality.

That's how I feel about a lot of the brands that I use because I don't really switch up my makeup ever, but like some of my favorite cosmetic brands like nars they're not doing anything crazy they're not going viral there's just major cosmetics actually

they they do have like some some virality and they

go viral for i mean their most recent launch of foundation i'm actually wearing it today nars light reflecting foundation is like a tick tock top five um

product it is one of the best foundations like i use it every day

I've been using their foundation for like four or five years.

Yeah, and the old one, the version that you use, the taller, skinnier bottle is also like a staple, but the new one, like Michaela Naguera is on this journey to finding her wedding foundation and she's like narrowed it down to five of the best and the NARS Light Reflecting Foundation is on that list.

I also have the Light Reflecting Foundation because I'm on their PR list.

So I use that one when I can't find my tall, skinny one.

And I love it too.

I love it.

But they're both really great.

That's also the other thing about this Morphe situation is like in the last few years, there's a million new brands some pop off some don't and there really isn't space for an unlimited amount of brands in the beauty space So it's like Fenty and Selena Gomez like all these celebrity ones taking off and then these ones going viral becoming huge beauty brands Jones Road Bobby Brown like there's so many brands like eventually we were just reported recently Becca is going out bite beauty is going out like there's not enough space for everyone so eventually somebody and so just Morphe being one to like scale down is a really big deal because they were so big Yeah, they were so big.

So, in addition to scaling down, a handful of the company's employees took to TikTok to over the holidays to call out the company's lack of transparency during the layoffs, with many using the hashtag hashtag justice for Morphe retail employees.

Viewers quickly responded in support, blasting the brand for allegedly leaving its employees in the dark while stores ran out of inventory.

Some Beauty experts said the news was not surprising, given that the company had reportedly experienced years of financial and legal troubles and reputational damage.

The brand's treatment of employees during the shutdown could further hurt its reputation among Gen Z consumers who have already demonstrated their aversion towards Morphe.

No, like, I mean, I don't keep, like, I'm into beauty, but I'm not that into beauty that I was like keeping up with Morphe's sales and

scandals.

But if you are, then you might have heard that.

I hadn't heard any of that.

Like, as far as I knew, it definitely just felt like from a consumer POV, like, and someone who's on TikTok and watches a lot of social media, like Morphe was just becoming irrelevant.

Yeah, because I think that the people that they invested in were less relevant than, not only less relevant than they once were, but also like controversial now, like James Charles and Jeffy Starr.

And like, that's really, I think, where they probably put the most money into.

And so then there's like not really money for other tings.

Yeah, but what's so crazy is like, no matter how controversial, that James Charles palette with Morphe, I think is the best-selling eyeshadow palette in the history of beauty.

Like it, it was the biggest, baddest thing.

Yeah, no, and and it was, but it's like, what did you do today?

You know, and that's what's sad.

Like, you can't just like cruise on that one palette.

No, and that's what, like, if you're going to get into any space that's like, even like what we do, like influencing or podcasting, it's so,

you can't be stagnant for one minute.

You can't rest.

You cannot.

You can't rest.

So, and beauty is like now weirdly like such a tech influence space that you have to keep doing, be doing the most.

It's exhausting, like the amount of launches, the amount of companies, the amount of new products.

And like, also with beauty, like everybody wants everyone to invent like the newest thing.

It's not just about coming out of cool colors of existing products, but it's like, did you transform my face today with one lip gloss?

Or no?

Right.

Is this lip gloss also a blush that changes the pH of your face?

Then I don't want it.

Exactly.

It's like, it's very competitive, which is good for the consumer because I feel like there's so much good makeup out there.

No matter what your price range is, your budget is, whatever you're looking for.

I feel like the crazy boom in the makeup makeup industry has actually been great for us.

Like, I feel like I love

all the makeup I've, you know, gotten over the last few years.

And like, I now use like my core products.

I feel like makeup is like kind of like killing it.

Yeah, no, for sure it is.

It's definitely a fun industry for, to be in.

I'm not speaking from experience.

I'm just saying like it seems like a fun place.

It also has really high margins.

So there's a lot of room for big success, but you've got to constantly be innovating, not just like with colors, like with products.

Like you you literally need to be an inventor.

So good luck to you on that.

I personally, I like the classics.

I don't really get caught up in these trends.

Like everyone's always like, do an updated makeup tutorial.

And it's like, I totally could, I'd be happy to, but it's the same one that you saw four years ago.

It's tried and true.

And you, you experienced it when I did your makeup because it's true.

I do TikTok makeup, but I do like back in the day, contour makeup, like just like angles.

And you were like, yeah, there's something to this.

100%.

Like it's a staple for a reason.

So don't feel bad if you're not caught up with these trends.

Cause I'm

probably not.

Don't feel bad.

I know some people might be feeling bad.

I know, like, they're probably listening to this podcast crying.

Like, don't cry.

It's okay.

It's okay if you don't have a lipstick.

That's also a blush that changes the pH of your skin.

Yeah.

I mean, it's fine.

It's not like okay, but it's fine.

Totally.

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All right, Jacks, what's the

Our next story is a little Bravo news.

Railhouse Eyes of Potomac star Ashley Darby confirms that she and Summerhouse alum Luke Goldbergson have split.

It's a wrap on the romance for Ashley and Luke.

The Bravo Lebrides have called it quits after less than three months of dating, Ashley confirmed on Sunday night's episode of Watch What Happens Live.

She said, quote, Luke and I are not romantically involved anymore.

She went on to explain that her ongoing divorce with her estranged husband, Michael Darby, is to blame for their split.

She said, quote, it was my situation with Michael that affected Luke and I.

She said that she and Michael are having a really hard time with co-parenting and separating.

She said, really, my life is very complicated.

As you guys can imagine, I'm going through a very difficult situation.

That doesn't mean Luke didn't try his best, though.

She said, quote, Luke was a trooper.

Believe me, he went through some things.

She also said that she met his family during their time together and that, quote, they were amazing.

I fell in love with them.

So great.

She said, she isn't worried about jumping back into the dating pool again.

I'm newly single.

This is my first relationship after.

And it's nice to be reminded that I am a girl and that I love to love and I love to be loved.

Give me all the love.

So I would say this is the definition of like a rebound relationship that's that's totally positive, didn't work out.

I don't think anyone expected these two to get married, but like gave Ashley her groove back and like showed her what she deserves.

And I think that's a beautiful storybook ending.

No, like as much as this was like a cute couple, I'm not surprised and I'm not sad.

I feel like actually we got out of these two like more than I thought we were going to get.

I really thought it was like a Bravo con, like drawn cookup and like they were living for like the social media attention.

I didn't think it was going to be anything real.

And the fact that she actually experienced like a nice three-month relationship with somebody who probably treated her so much better and so different than her previous relationship and like showed her like the possibilities of what's out there i feel like she's probably really grateful to luke i'm grateful to luke and like you know what it's okay i feel like it's okay

i feel like it's okay too every day of these three months was a blessing for all of us and more than we deserved and i

i think this is all good and

you know some people come into your life for a reason or a season no it's so true and i feel like i follow ashley darby on tiktok and she's like like really get like feeling herself, like getting her groove back.

I think she's like, you know, reached this just like kind of peaceful place.

She's always dancing.

She's always with her friends.

And so I feel like Luke probably helped get her there a little bit, like showing, showing her, you know, it doesn't always have to be that hard in a relationship.

And I feel like he probably kept it like simple and fun and he's young.

And it was good.

And it was a fun moment for the Bravo fans, a little crossover.

And it was good.

It was good.

It's enough.

It was good.

I don't really know Luke that well because I didn't watch Summerhouse when he was on.

I only know him from like that one season of Winter where he was just like kind of like being a lumberjack.

And while like, I'm really happy for Ashley Arby and I feel like the narrative here is like, good for Ashley.

This was good for Ashley.

Like, you know, he did was everything she needed him to be.

But it's like, what about Luke?

Like, when's it going to be Luke's turn?

He seems like a good guy, you know, and he's not just like here to be like

used.

I know what you mean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I know what you're saying.

It's like, yeah, thanks, Luke.

But it's like, what about Luke?

Like, when is it Luke's turn?

I totally hear what you're saying.

I feel like

I watched him on Summerhouse.

He went through a little bit of a rough patch, kind of like giving fuckboy energy.

But at the end of the day, he's like a nice guy.

He's not a bad guy.

He's not like Austin level.

I just think maybe he was bad at communicating and got himself a little bit of a bad reputation because he literally couldn't talk to people.

I think Luke gets on fine.

Honestly, I think Luke is taking care of Luke for real.

Do you think it will be Luke's turn soon?

No.

Because you know what?

Like, this is just a fact of life.

Like, some people are main characters and some people are not.

And you don't think he's a main character?

No, he gives very like supportive energy, like supportive character energy.

Wow.

Okay.

That's like really, really harsh.

Is it?

I think it's harsh.

Yeah, I think everybody, if you're not the main character of your own life, like I didn't say that.

What are you doing?

No, but he's a main character of his own life for sure.

Just not like everyone else's.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

But I guess for you, you're...

No, no, no.

No, it's not when you say it like that.

Like, but you are the main character of everyone's life that you're in.

We can say that.

Duh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But Luke is.

So are you, Brett?

So are you.

Thank you.

You are definitely like main character.

You're like, you have charisma.

Like you walk into a room and like the room changes.

You know what I mean?

Oh my God.

Thank you.

I need to bring up Luke more if these are the compliments.

Yeah, no, I guess I could see, I could see how like you saying that what I said was mean.

I could see how that's definitely true.

What I was saying is just like, I really honestly don't know what I was saying.

And now I feel like a bully.

I think I get what I

get what you're saying more.

So.

Okay.

But like in the movie of Luke's life, where he is the main character, as you say,

like when will it be his turn?

And what does his turn even look like?

Okay, so I feel like it's been his turn.

Like he got on the show.

People really like him.

He's very handsome.

I think he was like, you know, trying to become become an actor before.

Now he probably makes a good living.

He gets a lot of girls.

I think Luke is fine.

You think Luke's fine?

Yeah, I think Luke is like totally fucking fine.

Totally fine.

Okay.

Okay.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Oh my God, already?

Yeah.

But

I'm ready for our fifth and final story.

Go dogs.

Go, dogs, go.

It is some twisted fucking news, Bravo adjacent, because at the end of last last week, Randall Emmett's ex-wife, Amber Childers, claimed that the FBI is investigating Randall for pedophilia.

Wait, Amber Childers.

Wait.

Did we report on Friday about Lisa Rena?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

I don't remember.

Sorry.

Continue.

I thought that was the story.

It wasn't very memorable other than to say, yeah, remember we talked about ding-dong, what could it mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

Amber Childers claimed in a court filing that the FBI is investigating her ex-husband, Randall Emmett, for suspected child exploitation and pedophilia.

Also, Randall Emmett is the former partner of Lala Kent, who is our queen on Vanderpump Rules, Mother of Ocean.

Randall is also like a Hollywood producer.

What?

Randall is also like a Hollywood producer.

A Hollywood producer, yes.

Childers, who shares two minor children with Emmett, made the explosive allegation in a signed declaration she

submitted as part of a domestic violence restraining order request filed in the L.A.

Superior Court in late December.

In the court documents obtained by page six, the actress alleged that the movie producer is, quote, being investigated by the FBI for suspected child exploitation and or pedophilia.

Emmett, by the way, Randall, has denied the allegation, telling Page 6, I am not being investigated by the FBI nor anyone else, and the notion that I am is beyond absurd.

He said, anyone can say whatever they want in a pleading that doesn't make it true.

There is zero evidence that I'm being investigated for anything, and we will still share 50-50 custody of our children.

I am shocked and in utter disbelief that Amber Amber would even hint at something so disgusting and untrue.

And then he also posted a video to his Instagram where he even slams these, quote, lies as well.

At this point, the lies have been stretched so far.

We spent today getting confirmation because we knew there was no truthfulness to any of this, that the FBI has never been investigating me and isn't investigating me because there's nothing to investigate.

So that's

inside.

Well, the good thing about this is like, it's not he said, she said.

Like either there's an FBI investigation or there ain't.

So we'll just have to wait and see what the verdict of that is because that's it's a huge huge allegation it's a huge allegation and I

often like you know divorces can be messy and and people say stuff and I feel like typically I would be like

we kind of have to wait and see like you can't just like slander you're innocent until you're proven guilty but like Randall is a liar like he lied to us he lied to Lala like he's yeah so I'm inclined to disbelieve him also people have been referencing the fact that over the last year since Lala left him, like she's been alluding to stuff about Randall that she said, that is so disgusting, so depraved.

She can't even say, like, we know some of the stuff that he did during their relationship and like some of the lies, you know, the brown.

fake diamond ring that she was wearing for two years.

But then she was also saying that there's more that she found out that is just like so awful, so gross.

And people are now thinking that this might be that.

So it kind of seems like there's a track a little here.

It tracks a little bit.

It doesn't seem like it's so inconceivable.

But yes, you are innocent until proven guilty.

And I guess technically anyone can plead anything, but to write it in a sworn statement in a judicial document seems like kind of crazy if it's not true.

I also am curious about the relationship between Amber and Lala.

Do we know?

Obviously, at first, it's good.

It's good.

They started getting along when Lala was still with Randall.

Yes, co-parenting.

And now that Lala's, yeah, Lala's not with him, like, I think they have a good relationship.

I think Lala has like so much respect for her.

And I think everything's fine between the two of them.

Okay, good.

Yeah, but what's twisted is like, so say their FBI is investigating Randall.

He still has custody of his daughters.

He has three daughters between the two women.

And so that's fucking weird if these allegations are true.

Right.

And how do we just find out if they're true?

I feel like, can the FBI release a statement?

I'm curious.

I know.

The FBI, like, really should weigh in, but they won't do that.

Well,

hopefully it's not true, but if it is, like, that's actually disgusting and vile.

And he deserves jail.

So we'll wait and see.

And perhaps he will get jail once the investigation is concluded.

Those were the past five.

You certainly needed to know.

I would argue most of them.

And that was our first LA show.

Like, how did you feel?

I felt good.

I'm really excited that you're in LA bringing some LA energy, which we could always use considering, like, we are a podcast, we're influencers.

So, like, we are inherently thirsty and we need some of that LA

energy.

And you know what we always say?

I love LA.

We do always say it.

So, we've got more episodes coming out this week.

I'm recording two interviews while I'm here, just trying to like do the most with my time here, you know?

Can't wait for for these interviews.

Interviews.

So that's our show.

We're gonna wrap, correct?

Anything else you want to chit chat about, girl from?

No, that is all from me.

I will see you tomorrow for another Hollywood episode.

We've gotten Hollywood now, so you really can't even talk to us.

Oh, wait, Jaggie, do you hear that?

You should pick up your phone.

Hollywood is calling.

My phone is in use, but I'll just text back that I'll call you later.

Send a voicemail.

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Until then, goodbye.

No, Jackie.

Jackie.

No.

Arriva Derci.

Au revoir.

Yes.

I like that.

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We got that from Babel, you guys.

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