Fly Eagles Fly: Friday, January 6th, 2023
The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
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Good morning, Millennials.
Welcome back to the toast and happy.
Friday, Friday.
Gotta get down on Friday.
It doesn't feel like a Friday because the banks gave us Monday.
It really does not feel like a Friday.
Because the week was so short and so full of joy and excitement to be back in the saddle with my girl, Jex.
It's true, but it is Friday nonetheless.
The days of the week continue on, and that's really exciting.
We made it through the first week of the new year, I think pretty painlessly.
It felt like a good week.
I'm really excited for everyone that we've reached this milestone.
Congrats.
Congratulations.
It doesn't really feel like a Friday for me because right after this, like I'm not headed into the weekend.
Like I'm headed into straight travel mode.
I'm going to LA right after this.
I actually have like a huge update on like my West Coast trip.
But you're like going to party in LA.
Like I feel like that's exactly a weekend feeling.
Like, you're hopping on a flight, you're going to a new city, like, you're going to parties.
No, for sure.
But, like, getting on a plane for six hours is not like weekend relaxation, Friday afternoon vibes, you know?
It's getting you to your fun-filled weekend.
Yeah, no, and my weekend, like, of course, everything being planned so last minute.
Um,
but I've made a, I've made a decision and I, I need the toasters' help.
I need your help.
What is it?
So, you know, I was telling everyone that's why I'm wearing red today, um, just show support for my favorite team, the 49ers.
I'm headed to the West Coast, and I've been meaning to get out to a 49ers game just to see, see my guys, you know, I sound like one of those girls.
And so there's a game this Sunday and me and Ben were planning on going.
And then me and Ben were talking yesterday.
And this game on Sunday is the last game before the playoffs.
The 49ers have already cinched a seat.
So whether they win or lose this game, it doesn't matter.
The next week is a playoff game.
So I'm still going to be on the West Coast next week.
And me and Ben were like, we should really just go next week.
So we've made the decision to not go to the 49ers game this Sunday, but next weekend.
But there's a chance, because I was learning so much about football last night.
So there's a chance that based on the games that happen this weekend, that there might not be a 49ers game next weekend.
It's called a bye weekend.
The person who's in the number one seat, seed, seat, I don't know.
gets a break.
It's called a bye week before the playoffs.
So if the Eagles lose to the Cowboys this Sunday, then I will have missed my opportunity to go to a game.
Now, I discussed with a couple football experts and they said the likelihood of the Eagles losing to the Cowboys is extremely unlikely, but
that's the nature of the game.
It's like you never know what's going to happen.
Yeah.
That's why there is a game to find out.
Right.
Right.
So I'm taking a risk for sure.
Are you asking me my opinion?
I wasn't, but I would accept it nonetheless.
You literally said, like, I need everyone's help.
Jax, I need your help.
That's what you said at the beginning.
Yeah.
In help, I was more so just like sending out positive vibes to the Eagles.
Oh, I can't, though.
I'm like, because I'm a Cowboys fan.
I'm a Cowboys fan.
But they're playing the Giants.
You just have been saying the Cowboys this entire time.
Hmm.
That's interesting.
It's the Giants.
But the reason I said the Cowboys, because if the Cowboys do something else,
it affects it as well.
But as long as the Eagles win, I'm good.
Okay.
I just don't.
You didn't ask for my opinion, so I'm going to keep.
No, I know what you're going to say, negative queen, but go say it.
I would say, like, one, you should go to the guaranteed game that actually works out better for your schedule, which is this week.
No, and it doesn't.
It doesn't.
Sure, it's not like the Super Bowl of games, but everyone will be relaxed.
It's kind of just like, you know, a scrimmage.
You know that even if they lose, they'll be happy.
If they win, they'll be happy.
And you're going there to hang out with happy people.
Like, what if the game next week, God forbid, the Niners lose and like nobody wants to to party with you after?
I would go to the bird in the hand is where to do the bush.
Like, seriously, shut up.
Like, okay, first of all, it doesn't work with my schedule this weekend.
Like, it was going to be really difficult for me to get to San Francisco.
So, if I can do, like, next week is so much easier for me.
And it's a playoff game.
Like, I'm going all the way.
Like, I should go.
I should stand for something.
For sure.
If you are like the biggest football fan of all time, but to us, a football game, a football game is a football game.
No, honestly like seriously shut up like stop like for real like because the decision's already been made i'm going next weekend so i know like you know like everyone who plays for the 49ers was like expecting to see me this weekend so i just wanted to come on the podcast and know and like let them know like i will be at the next game not this one got it okay
okay cool
And I feel good about my decision.
Like I'm traveling cross country.
Like I need to, like I want to go to something major.
And even if we're going to win, because the the 49ers really at this point have never let me down
and I do believe it's their time to win the playoffs.
I do.
It's 100% their time.
100%.
But even if they don't,
I still will feel like I showed support for my team at a time that mattered.
When they needed you.
When they needed me.
The worst case scenario here is that there's no game.
Then I'll be so fucking annoyed that like I missed.
But you know what?
Then it wasn't meant to be.
But then I have to wait till next season to go to a game.
I support your decision.
I feel like the Eagles are going to pull it out.
So, like, when your mans are watching
football this weekend, just make sure you're root for the Eagles, like positive energy for the Eagles.
And now that I've told you all this, be like, wow, it would be so crazy if the Eagles lose because then you know, the 49ers get a bye weekend.
Like, you could use all this jargon that I've learned.
I did it for you guys.
And where do the Cowboys come in?
Such important questions um
i'm i'm not sure
but there's an element of the cowboys but if the if the eagles win like we're good we're good we're good if the eagles win the 49ers will be playing the eagles
no no it had i i thought the same thing by the way i was on the coach no because that would make sense no yeah no because honestly like i get it I can't explain it to you.
It's one of those things.
Like, I understand it.
I couldn't verbalize it if I wanted to.
Who will the 49ers be playing if there's a game next weekend?
Another incredible question that I have no answers to.
I want to say the Jaguars.
The Jaguars.
It's my home state.
Don't talk shit.
Right.
No, I wasn't talking shit.
I'm such a Jaguars girly.
No, Sinville Claude.
Jackson Claude.
Sinville Claude.
Jackson Claudeville is better.
Jackson Claudeville Jaggers.
We could literally make any team our team.
Well, that's the unique ability that we have to make anything about us.
Yeah, because we're just really flexible and open-minded.
The New England,
the Patriots?
Yeah.
We're Patriots.
We're literally Patriots.
I thought we were like literally putting our names in teams.
No, no, we're just finding like an association and a kinship with the team.
Yeah, personally, I like the
Arizona Curdinos.
The McClernals?
The McCerdinals.
That's kind of like my favorite team, you know?
Yeah, there are so many great teams.
So true.
I also like the White Jocks.
The White Jocks and Claude.
The White Jocks and Claude.
They're really good.
But also, the Boston Red Jocks and Claude are so good, too.
They're good too.
And we do like red because we're also 49ers fans.
Right.
And that's why I'm wearing my cherry red today, ready to get my Brock on.
So just send me positive vibes because if I fuck this up and like fumble the ball and never like actually get to go to a game this season after learning like literally everyone who plays for the the 49ers, works for the 49ers, is obsessed with the toast.
And, I don't even get to go to a place where everyone's obsessed with me.
Like, I'll be devastato.
I think it will work in your favor.
You're just, it's a little risky, but you know, you got to risk it to get the toast.
No, I, and maybe adding to my list of resolutions, like, I'm also taking risks.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Because, you know, I'm a very conservative girly.
Like, I'm usually just like, you know, go with the safe option, one in the hand, two in the bush, the whole thing.
But, like, why?
Let's fuck up the bush.
Until the bush fucks you up.
Until you burn the bush down.
Until you wish you took the one in the hand.
That's a lesson you got to learn the hard way.
I feel like I'm.
Hopefully not this weekend.
Yeah, I've got too much to lose.
We could learn it another time.
100%.
Yeah, plus we need our toast representative to go and show face, you know, shake hands, kiss babies, let the 49ers know and the people of San Francisco that we are here for them.
Okay, now you're understanding like what I've been dealing with for the last 24 hours.
Okay.
No, I do understand what you're dealing with your weekend.
It sounds so, so fun, but for me, like the first scrimmage fake game sounds just as fun because it's just a game.
No, and I guess what I'm trying to say is like, I feel like, you know, people look at us, they look at me and they think, oh, such an easy life.
I'm making this look easy.
Like, I am actively making it look easy.
Like, this is like these decisions that weigh on me.
Oh my God, I could just get emotional talking about it.
It's exhausting.
Choices, man.
Choices.
It's just like Audrina Patridge's book.
Is that what it was called?
I think so.
Choices.
Choices.
Better than spare.
Better than no choices.
So true, actually.
Like, love a queen who makes choices.
Yeah, but I disagree about better than spare.
You know, I think it's a strong title.
I know we, there were, you told me this morning that, like, every single story on every single website is more excerpts, more drama.
I have respectfully asked that we not discuss.
I know we won't, but just take it, like, go to page six.
You don't even have to click on, not you, Claudia, listener.
Yeah.
You don't even have to click on an article, even though headlines are often misleading.
Just the volume of these headlines and also the minutiae.
Like, Harry had frostbite on his dick at his wedding.
Like, it's he's sharing
everything that's ever happened to him in his life, every feeling.
It's insane.
Yeah, it's a little
TMI
a hundred percent.
I'm just I'm fatigued by it also because yesterday I had the pristine honor of being a guest on the Good Guys podcast, which will come out next week.
And they wanted to do like a little pop culture.
So, of course, like everyone, they were asking me about Harry and Megan.
I had to explain it because they like, they don't get, they don't know the level that we know.
And I was just, I'm exhausted by these two.
Like, I, I feel like I'm just constantly learning things about them unwillingly, like against my will.
I just, I think this book is a mistake.
I think everything else they've put forward, it's been like, there's two sides and two camps of people who like have their back and people who don't.
But like, this has like crossed a line.
For sure.
It's more level of detail than I ever need to know about anyone's life.
Period.
Period.
I'm so, if he was a woman, he'd be telling us his period cycles.
That's how in-depth that is.
He'd be the kind of influer that's like, ugh, not feeling the best today.
I have my peer.
He'd be the kind of influer?
Influer, yeah.
You just dropped the C?
Yeah, I dropped the C because you're the C.
My God.
So we aren't going to be discussing that today, thankfully.
We do have five stories.
We're hoping that while we record, we're recording a little early today because of my flight.
We're hoping that we will get the sentencing from Jen Shaw because if not, we have to wait till Monday, which is so annoying.
I actually have a friend down at the courthouse, boots on the ground.
I'll be getting, you know, information as it comes in, even though she had to turn her phone off.
But still, I'm really hoping that by the time we get to the fifth story.
That it'll be there.
But
are you going to be actually getting it from her?
No.
Oh, okay, cool.
She's just there.
It's just a fun fact.
No, she said there's a lot of cameras outside.
It's crazy.
The cameras will capture it.
Yeah, no, but
even if she could text me as it was going on, literally the press would get it first.
The people notification would already be in your inbox.
Yeah.
So I'm waiting for my people notification.
This is a crazy, it's a stark day, honestly, in the Bravo universe.
This is really crazy.
Yeah.
And meanwhile, we're all sitting here talking about Heather's black eye.
I can't.
I'm not.
I feel good.
No, I'm not.
But like the culture.
Like you guys are.
You guys are.
And that's on you, because in the words of Kim Kardashian, you look like fucking clowns.
We're talking about the playoffs, which is just exciting to behold.
It's exciting.
I'm kind of loving this like sports girl tomboy era that we're in.
I feel like a real sports influencer.
Like people are now flocking flocking to our podcast and my Instagram being like, what does they think is going to happen with the Eagles?
Like, it's just, it's kind of cool to be an expert in my field.
You already are, but to be an expert in another field.
In another field, an additional field.
A literal field.
Literally.
Literally.
Literally.
Literally.
So it's our final show of the week.
What are your plans this weekend, Jax?
Obviously, I'm going to be out gallivanting, but you're doing more important work, like raising the child of Christ.
Yeah, just we'll be home chilling, mom tings, you know, maybe some crafts, some fun activities.
I do want to try and get to a car dealership maybe today.
Oh, exciting.
Yeah, because I want to get a car.
I don't like, so I can start just like doing the things that I need to do.
And I have some appointments coming up and I don't want to like be worried that Zach's going to have the car.
So two questions for you.
One, you know, people have been super helpful in giving you feedback for like good mom cars.
Have you decided like a brand?
Okay, so I spoke to the car mom extensively and I told her, I told her my thoughts and concerns, even though we're like,
oh, yeah, car mom and I, best friends.
We go way back.
We had already spoken when Zach was getting his car.
So now I just told her like what I was looking for.
And we came up with like two good choices for me.
And one of them is Lexis and the other is Volvo.
So I'm going to go
Ariel Charnis has a Volvo.
Yeah, I'm going to go to both dealerships i think and test drive them like get prices you know see how they feel on the inside do my own like car mom test for like my lifestyle and i think it will be between the two of those okay let me i'm really not like i'm not someone who needs to see every car on the market in order to make a choice When it comes to cars, like I'm very much a label whore.
So let me tell you what the label says about, about you, if you, if you're interested in knowing what people are going to be thinking.
Lexus, it's a little older it's elegant it's old money Lexus is definitely old money like I like I don't care you know yeah um
Volvo is so like I have brand association Volvo Ariel Charnis Volvo for me is like fucking classy rich mom and that's what I'm saying for me is new new young mama safe driving mama
so Are you looking for a mom car?
Because I thought you were looking for like a punch buggy and a punch bag.
No, I'm not looking for a punch buggy.
I am looking,
I wasn't necessarily looking for a mom car, even though it will turn into if I'm a mom.
Because then Zach's car is your mom car.
Right, but I don't want to use it as the mom car.
Like, I don't like it.
So I just have to say, I like Zach's car.
I really don't.
So it's turned into a mom car.
Plus, I do need something heavy.
Like, I was saying how I wanted to be in like some sort of mid-size sedan,
which I could, like, the cars that I'm choosing are
mid-size sedan mom cars that are heavy.
Got it, got it, got it.
That are over 3,000 pounds.
Well, as your passenger princess, I have some requirements for what I need.
Okay.
Seat heaters and coolers.
Okay.
A bevy, bevy
of cup holders.
Honestly, I love a captain's seat in the back.
Like, I really do.
Even though, like, you want to have a lot of kids, it's not helpful.
Is it really not helpful at all.
Like, we're always lapping up Zach's car as captain seats.
Like, it's nice when you're like in a car service and they have captain seats.
Yeah.
Like for your actual, and sometimes like you want to sit next to the car seat.
You want to sit in the middle seat and like lean over the car seat.
No, but like you want to play, like have access to the car seat and play with your baby.
And I'm kind of like,
I think captain seats are so elegant, but they're really not.
convenient.
I'm not functional.
I'm not attached to them.
Okay.
I think it's so classy and elegant, but I totally agree.
It's not realistic.
It's not functional.
It's not necessary.
A brilliant sound system so that my 100% and toast can play for Harry on his way to school or wherever he's going.
You know, he's so busy.
I think that's it.
Okay.
I will let the dealer know.
Are you leaning towards a color?
Like black?
White is so chic and very Florida.
I'm less concerned about the color of the outside and more concerned about the color of the inside.
Yeah, if you're going to be making content from your car, like you want like a nice espresso or like a beige.
100%.
i want a nice espresso
yeah i mean you're being very restrained because like i don't have a car i've never had a car and if the day ever came like i'm getting a rolls royce right like i'm getting the best of the best yes and i understand that for you the only reason why it's not that for me is because i'm a new driver so like why would i just like take money and maybe be flushing it down the toilet No, that's that's a good point.
I need something one like safe and reliable, kid tested, you know, everything.
but also like
it's my first car
so true so okay i'm hoping to get
to get that um to get that happen this week and i'm hoping that when i go to the dealership and they know that i'm like going to be getting a car they like give me one for you know a few days until like i get before yours and then i just have a car starting the day i go to the dealership you know because sometimes they're like that No, for sure.
Like I feel as though, you know, even though I've never bought a car, I do feel like when you walk into the dealership, like, if you agree to buy the car from them, like, they're going to take care of you until you get the car.
Right.
And I will have a, I'll have wheels.
You'll have wheels on the bus going round and round, round, round and round, round.
Oh my god, I forgot to tell you.
What
I forgot to tell you.
Remember,
we have made
communication with Miss Rach.
In what forum?
She messaged us on Instagram
on the toast.
I responded last night.
That's why I called you last night.
And I couldn't remember why I called you.
Work on your memory.
Work on your memory.
I know.
It's so bad.
I just need to start leaving a pen and paper by my nightstand.
You did.
She wrote, thank you guys with like a hundred hearts and smiley emojis.
I guess she heard us discussing her work earlier this week on the toast.
And now that, you know, contact has been made, I feel like we're one step closer to getting Miss Rach on the toast, which would be such an an iconic episode.
We'd have to sing a song with her, right?
Yeah.
No, that's a dream guess because I think that's who our listeners want to hear from.
And we all have so many questions for her.
And it's like, what podcast is going to be the best place for Miss Rach to tell her truth other than the toast?
Nowhere.
You couldn't have a better match.
You couldn't dream up a better collab.
You really couldn't.
You really couldn't.
Oh, I just saw the message.
That's so, so exciting.
Yeah, so kind of like big things happening at the toast, not to brag or anything.
Big things for littles.
Dead.
So we've got a great show.
Should we dive in?
Sure.
Still no update on Miss Jennifer Shaw, just keeping everyone in the loop.
Thank you so much.
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Now I can spend my time like in the car doing something fun, like perhaps getting a manicure for the first time in three months.
Oh, I got a manicure yesterday.
You know, I've noticed like with your new life and being a mom and like having actually important things to do,
you have definitely stopped your, your manicure cycle.
And I find the manicure cycle so toxic.
Like let me tell you how that's a part of motherhood I'm looking forward to.
Like not giving a fuck about my name.
Just getting off the ride and just making sure that they just like look nice i stopped cleaning the air like i used to try and get a manicure down here like try and get a ride i couldn't really find like a manicure place that i loved then i i went back to like doing it myself just like how i was doing during covet but like still they would chip and i just don't have the time to like be constantly thinking about like my chipped nails and so now i'm just going bare
and i like it stunning i could like stand to clip my nails right now but Just keep them clean.
Just keep them clean.
You and I got pedicures together when we were in Florida and I thought that was a great nail salon.
What was that place?
It was just a little far, but I agree.
Yeah.
That's where I'm like dreaming of going when I'm going to get a manicure.
One day.
And I got a gel pedicure that time, so I won't be getting a pedicure again for one whole year.
Yeah, no, I completely agree.
Like with pedicures, I will not be getting a new pedicure until my white pedicure looks like a French manicure.
No, until the bottom of it is at the top.
Exactly.
Except.
You do need to clip your toenails if you're not going to get a pedicure.
Otherwise, you'll get ingrown and your shoes won't fit.
For sure.
Life hack.
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Okay, our first story.
Some big housewives news, though not the news that you're thinking of.
Lisa Rina is, quote, grateful as she announces her exit from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after eight seasons.
After eight seasons of delivering sassy one-liners, drama-filled moments, social media messiness, and self-deprecating lip humor, Rina is departing the beloved franchise people can exclusively confirm.
She told people in a statement, quote, this is the longest job I have held in my 35-year career, and I am grateful to everyone at Bravo and all those involved in the series.
It has been a fun eight-year run, and I am excited for what's to come.
The decision was made as Rena's contract expired at the end of last season.
After weighing her options and business obligations, she and Bravo mutually decided that she would not return to Beverly Hills.
Fired.
Not asked back.
Not asked back.
This is crazy.
You know, Kathy, we did it, Joe.
We did it, Kathy.
I think the decision for the network to like move forward, Kathy's made it abundantly clear publicly and I'm sure privately too, she will not have any sort of involvement on the show if Lisa Rinna is still around after what went down with the whole Aspen thing.
And it's clear that the network is investing in Kathy.
So I'm curious if now, like
if they're going to get rid of Lisa Rinna, who love her or hate her is like really a staple of the show and moves things around and creates drama, Kathy's going to have to give us more.
I wonder if Kathy's now a full-time housewife.
Yeah, I also feel like there's a chance that it wasn't just Kathy's ultimatum that
made Vina not be ass back.
Like the fans really were kind of at the end of their rope with her.
And I don't think it's fair to put like all the pressure.
Now Kathy has to be the new Rena and stir the pot and keep the show moving forward.
No,
first of all, I didn't mean that.
I just mean like she can't, you know, get by doing the bare minimum anymore if they, if they really did let go of Lisa or her.
I agree.
That's how like it looks like, okay, this, you want the job.
Now you got it.
Like step up to the plate.
Right.
But the thing is, like, what Kathy's bare minimum that she was bringing to the table, like, that's what people wanted from her want from Kathy.
Like, I actually think if we start to get more of her, though, I do think at this point, she should be a full-time housewife, but I don't think that her role within the girls should change other than being just like herself, because that's what people love about her.
Yeah, I also, I actually don't think that like the fans' rage and booing her at BravoCon had anything to do with her being fired.
Like, of course, it's not ideal, but I think at the end of the day, if I worked in like television production, like I would ultimately see that as a benefit, like people getting like emotional invested.
And everyone, every show needs a villain.
And I think probably Lisa Rinna's villainhood was
perhaps like a, she reached new levels for Bravo.
Like, I don't think anyone's ever gotten booed at BravoCon.
It's only happened like for three years.
But I still think it's good for the show.
Yes, I agree.
Like, that inspires passion.
But I do think like when you write yourself as the villain,
it's kind of a dead end.
I also think what, what's so interesting about this is like how it affects the group dynamic in terms of Erica.
I feel like Erica over the last two, three years has like really kind of pigeonholed herself with Lisa.
There used to be like that core group, Kyle, Dariet, Lisa, Erica.
And I feel like that's very much like dissolved.
And I wonder what this means for Erica, like and her relationships with the other women, because she doesn't have this crutch anymore.
Yeah.
She's going to have to forge new friendships, which ultimately might be good for her because they were kind of siloed, the two of them.
They're like miserable together.
Yeah.
So it could ultimately be good.
Now, Lisa Vanderpum tweeted ding dong.
And I think people think it's because like ding dong, the witch is dead.
Yeah.
But when I first read it, I thought it was like ding dong, like she's ringing the doorbell, like she's showing up.
No.
Okay.
I was open to different interpretations, but I don't see that at all.
Like ding dong, I'm ready to come back.
No.
really?
That's, I don't know why that's where my head went, but now that it's there, I'm like, maybe it's time to bring back Lisa Vanderpump.
I'm ready.
As a former hater, I'm ready.
I also think it's worth noting that I don't think Lisa's relationship with the network is done.
Like, I do think she'll still be at events, Bravo kind of thing.
She'll be on Watch Rapids Live as just like a celebrity.
I think like they, they keep, they weirdly keep some people like close.
Like Teddy Mellencamp was just on Watch Robins Live.
Granted, she came with her dad, John Cougar Mellencamp.
But still, like she is, she's been on since multiple times since she was let go.
So they keep certain people like in the fold, like even how all the Shahs of Sunset were at BravoCon and their show was canceled.
Like I think Lisa will still be like a friend of the network
in a way that not everyone is.
But that's also because she's just a celebrity.
Right, but also now it's interesting, like, where does Lisa Rina's career go from here?
Because, you know, Housewives, I think, really gave her like a new wave in her career.
She was this like
kind of
like a relevant, like, I don't like to use the term washed up, but like in terms of her acting career, yeah, like it wasn't paying the bills and keeping the mansion in Malibu afloat.
And I think Housewives, money-wise and fame-wise, like really reinvigorated her career.
And I'm curious what she does with that now.
I think she might manage her daughters.
And just be like a professional momager club.
Yeah, and she'll like go to all the, yeah, just be like Chris.
Yeah.
And then like an influencer.
Go to everything with them.
That's interesting.
I like that.
I think that'd be good for her.
Yeah.
That's my guess.
Interesting.
But your guess is as good as mine.
But she'll do something because she's a worker bee.
Yeah, she's a hustle, hustle, hustle.
In terms of ding-dong, I am open to the interpretation that perhaps it's a ding-dong, like a bell.
I didn't think about a doorbell, but I don't know.
I'm not getting behind the meaning of like her ready to come back.
Like if it was a doorbell, what else could it mean?
Like, ding-dong.
No, I'm sorry.
It's totally ding-dong.
The witch is dead.
Like, let's not waste our time.
I'm just saying, that's where my head went.
And I just thought I would share her.
No, I'm glad you did because my, like, literally, it didn't even go there.
And that's definitely like an obvious reference.
Yeah.
So.
It's bittersweet, the news.
No, I know.
Like, even though I was so anti-Rinna and I was like, very much here for, like, Kathy winning.
I've cooled off.
No, and something about her leaving, it's like, well, like, she's the worst, but she makes the show great.
Yeah.
And I had cool, like, something about it.
Is nice is that satiating.
My strong feelings had cooled off.
I didn't need this news now.
I could have gone into another season and with, you know, Tabula Rasa.
I completely agree.
Like, it's too much time has passed.
Now she kind of looks like the victim.
Damn.
How the tables have turned.
It's so true.
Are you ready for our next story?
Because it's some really wonderful news after news that we shared earlier this week about DeMar Hamlin.
He has begun to awaken.
He's moving his hands and feet, doctors say.
Buffalo Bill safety DeMar Hamlin is beginning to awaken as he shows, quote, substantial improvement in his recovery from going into cardiac arrest and collapsing on the field during Monday's game, doctors at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center said on Thursday.
One of the doctors said Hamlin is still considered critically ill and that significant progress is needed.
Hamlin's neurological condition appears to be intact, the doctor said.
Fabulous.
He said he's able to move his hands and feet and he is unable to speak, but was able to communicate in writing.
They said that...
I wonder why he can't speak.
I don't know.
Maybe because of some of the stuff they've got
going on.
Like maybe he has like a tube.
I don't know.
It could be just like logistic like that.
It is said that he asked whether the Bills won Monday night's game against the Bengals.
And then the doctor responded, quote, the answer is yes, Damar.
You won.
You won the game of life.
So everyone is like sharing this.
Like, so cute.
I just want to say, like, I'm so happy DeMar Hamlin hopefully will be okay, that he's awake.
It was so, I was talking about it on Good Guys, and Josh was like really putting into perspective, like, the odds of this happening, like for this sort of condition to happen.
It's like your your heart has to be pumping at the exact moment that it hit something.
Like it was so
rare.
We don't know what the exact thing that happened was.
Like, people are speculating.
There's this like really rare heart disease that starts with a C that people are saying, like, that's what it was.
Something
like comocorditis.
Yeah, but no doctor has confirmed that.
Oh, I thought it was like confirmed.
That's what it was.
I haven't seen a confirmation.
I'm just seeing people speculating.
So I'm so, and like, I feel like people in sports sports and pop culture and just all of the world have like really come together to rally around him.
The money that was raised is incredible.
But I am not 100% believing that the first thing he said was, did we win the game?
I'm sure eventually once he came to and what happened and where's my mom?
Like I'm sure after that he's like, oh wait, did we win that game?
But this like the first thing he said, I don't believe.
I know.
I feel like it's just a really nice story.
And this is something I think the whole country has just been on edge the last few days.
And so it's a nice anecdote, especially the doctor saying you run the game of life.
It's giving Hallmark movie.
Yeah, but it's giving like a little.
Not believable.
Yeah, no, like it's sweet.
And I love that they're giving us like a storybook ending.
And I'm sure at one point after he woke up, he asked, whatever happened with the game?
Yeah.
It's natural.
But when you
experience like a major medical trauma and you're in a coma, like you're resuscitated, like you don't remember certain things.
I just don't believe the first thing he wrote down, did we win?
Yeah, they didn't say it was the first thing.
They said that he woke up and he asked, Did we win?
That doesn't mean that it was the first, but they're definitely pushing forth this like really sweet story that I just don't find entirely true.
Like believable in the way that they've shared it.
Because here are a list of things that he probably said before he asked, Where am I?
What happened?
What happened?
Who are you?
Why does my chest hurt?
Where's my family?
What day is it?
Yeah.
A million things.
Yeah.
So it's nice, and it is nice.
And I'm not trying to be negative.
And I, and I just want to say, like, DeMar Hamlin has my full love and support.
Like, I didn't, the way I, the way I didn't know who this man was before and now, like, I will be following him.
And, like, I love the bills.
But let's be real with one another.
He said it maybe a couple hours later.
Yeah.
Also, it's not like he's the one who's telling the press and the media that this was the conversation.
Like someone else is like writing this story.
No, this like PR department for the bills.
Yeah.
They really, I think they want to inspire people and uplift people.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful, but I think it's only half true.
I agree.
I'm so glad that he is up.
I hope he makes like a speedy, fast, easy recovery.
And I'm just wishing him the best.
I really am.
Agree, but I do think he has a long road ahead of him because they're still saying critically ill.
But the fact that I think neurologically it seems as though he is doing well is it's extremely important huge yeah
so that is some great news to add into the weekend after what was really a harrowing week and a harrowing star
week and the new year agreed agreed so you agree or no
i would say i'm kind of in agreement with you you know i'm not sure though we'll circle back
We'll circle back for sure.
I'm in agreement there as well.
Are you ready for our next story?
I'm so agreeable today.
You are.
You're always agreeable.
Oh, yeah, that's what people say about me.
They say that Claudia, she's so agreeable.
Never talks back.
Never.
Never is a contrarian.
Never is contentious.
No, not McClurdia.
Not my McClurdia Liturdia Schaherdia.
Not the Arizona McClurdials.
I'm wishing them the best in their game this week.
Are they a football team or a baseball team?
Such good questions you ask.
I'm fairly certain it's the St.
Louis Cardinals.
St.
Louis?
No, St.
Louis.
Cardinals.
And I only know that because it's Andy Cohen's favorite team.
The word, I'm sorry, the name Louis Lewis is literally going to be the death of you.
It's so true.
Louis from One Direction.
No, Louis.
Nope.
Louie?
Louis.
Louis Judice.
Yep.
Saint Saint Louis.
Nope.
No.
He means St.
Louis.
No, the movie Sex in the City fucked up that movie.
Louis from St.
Louis.
Louis.
Is it ever pronounced Louis?
I feel like when it's spelled L-E-W-I-S.
Wait, what do you mean?
It's always pronounced Louis.
Louis.
Louis Vuitton?
You ever call it Louis Vuitton?
No, but Louis Vuitton is Italian.
I live in America, bitch, okay?
It's Louis.
For what, St.
Louis?
St.
Louis.
Stop saying St.
Louis.
Let's just Google it.
And also, like,
a lot of American places are named after European places.
But maybe we change the pronunciation with our accents.
How to say St.
Louis?
It's St.
Louis.
I've been there.
St.
Louis.
Louis.
Missouri.
Why is he French?
That's going to confuse me more.
It's St.
Louis.
It's Louis Tomlinson.
And it's
Louis Capaldi.
Louis Capaldi, my fave.
I think we.
But Louis Capaldi is E-W-I-S.
My brain can't handle this conversation.
Moving on.
Yeah, that's just going to be one of those things that is never solved for me.
What story is this number?
Three.
Okay, we still have time.
Still no Gen Shaw.
I keep checking.
Okay, well, we have a fifth story back up just in case.
Okay.
Victoria Beckham is defending her son Brooklyn after his cooking video is dividing fans.
Oh my God.
Not like the way the chokehold that Brooklyn Beckham's fake culinary career has on our culture is something that brings me immense joy.
Yeah, so Brooklyn is under fire again for some of his cooking.
He showed cosplaying and appropriating as a chef.
No, that's not why.
He did a video where he was joined by Michelin, former Michelin chef Kevin Lee, and they took on the traditional British Sunday roast, but with a twist.
He showed fancy ingredients used to create the meal, and he treated fans to a sneak peek of the end result.
But to his surprise, the video didn't go over too well with fans who said the meat looked raw and undone.
One critic joked that the meat, a good vet, could bring the meat back to life.
Like he's holding a slab of meat that looks looks completely raw, and he says, He says, That's the finished product.
Yeah, that's the finished product.
So, Jackie, maybe it was that technique people are doing where they like have like huge errors in their videos in order to create engagement.
Like, how you always say, when your mic flag is turned upside down, we get so many comments that it's upside down.
And engagement is engagement.
Right.
People, that's what people do, especially on the talk.
No, and I've been seeing, ever since you pointed it out for me, I've been seeing it everywhere.
Like, you know, the luggage company base.
Yes.
Over the holidays, they had this, um,
it was a paid ad.
So, like, when you would scroll through TikTok, you would see base, and it was like showing you how to wrap the base travel bag, like the stuffle bag for the holidays.
If you got it for someone, and they wrapped it like shit, like literally, like the ugliest fucking wrapping of all time, but like it looked like it was serious up until the end.
And the comments were like, oh, someone's getting fired.
And I think it was on purpose.
Yeah, no, I've seen that a lot recently.
Like, we were talking about, I guess, Emily Marico made a pie that was like really jiggly.
Disgusting.
And then one of my friends was saying that they think that she did it like to provoke people and get engagement.
Also,
then I fell for this like for literally years, but Abby Hebert and how she says on her Instagram that she's cousins with Noah Beck.
I literally thought until last week that they were cousins.
That's the thing people do on TikTok.
They're like, oh, I'm here with my stepbrother.
And then it's like another TikToker and all the comments are like, wait, I missed a chapter.
But it's just a way to create engagement.
I just took it at face value.
And then also, she also calls her daughter.
You're too honest for this life.
She calls her daughter.
She's like, my 20-month-old daughter on TikTok or on Reels.
And, you know, that like really bothers people when people talk about their kids like that.
So for that one, I actually don't think she's like fucking with us.
No, but now that you told me that she said no Beck's her cousin and he's not, like, I know she's fucking with us.
Like, there is a girl on TikTok.
I don't follow her, but she does like mom content, like breastfeeding.
She like always comes up and she talks about her kid and she says her kid's name is Poot.
Yeah, that's Abby.
No, it's a different girl.
She calls her daughter Poot.
Maybe I'm getting my mom talkers confused.
Okay, she does Poot, but then another girl like says her daughter's name is like Robert or something.
Just, and I think she doesn't want to share her kid's name, but like also to create like fodder for people to discuss.
It's really smart.
We got to start doing wacky shit.
Like every time you pronounce like the car company Hyundai, don't correct me.
No, correct you.
No, yeah, don't correct me.
Don't Yeah.
Yeah.
We got to start being more clickbaity.
Like, I'm sorry.
We have built a brand off of honesty and authenticity, and look where it's gotten us.
Not where we should be.
Agree.
Except we're number three in comedy.
So mature honesty.
Yeah.
Yeah, our first episode back hit number three on the comedy podcast charts.
And usually we peak at like five or six.
So every time we like, if we even hit four, we're like, oh my God.
So three was like really big, especially considering it's not like, wasn't our first episode ever.
No, and it would have, we really should, should have been in number two, but I guess people found the episode about the tragic murder of someone named Pamela so funny that they were number two.
And I'm glad people are finding murder funny.
True crime girlies are not fucking okay.
No, they're not.
I have so many things to say about that, but the first thing I will say is that you can't judge that until
you have to listen to it.
I know.
I just think optically for their brand, they should be removed from the comedy section.
One, because then we would move up in the charts.
And two, like, I don't think that's what they would want to put forward.
People thinking that these girls think crime is funny.
There's nothing funny about crime.
Just ask Jen Shaw.
Okay, that's not even a good reference because there's a difference between like, you know, swindling people and murder.
Jackie, forgive me for just trying to be topical.
Like, murder.
No, for sure.
There's nothing funny about crime.
Just ask, you know, a victim of any crime.
That's really poignant.
Powerful.
But you have to listen to the podcast to understand what they're doing there and how it could be in comedy.
No, I'm sure I would giggle.
But I just still think
if you're going to get into the true crime space and you're going to be the leader of it, like you definitely have like an ethical responsibility to not commercialize it and like still be respectful.
And I'm sure that they do.
And I've heard that like a lot of the big true crime podcasts, you know, give back, they work with the families, yada, yada.
I just think like, you know, this shouldn't be in comedy.
It's a little disrespectful.
That's all I'm saying.
Even if it is a funny show.
Yeah, but maybe they have a reason for being in comedy.
That's like, you know.
I think the reason is probably that they're funny girls, and I love funny girls.
Okay.
But it reminded me because in the book, the it.
But I'm just, sorry, I'm also just selfishly like, get out of the
comedy genre so I can move my ass up.
That's why I just want to be perfectly clear about my intentions.
Yeah.
But in the book we just read for the Redheads, The It Girl, it's like about a crime, obviously.
And she's one of, she was like the best friend of the person who was murdered.
And she talks about like the impact all these podcasts have and how she like fucking hates them.
Of course.
Yeah, they're just like so invasive, and they just like require you to live through it again and again.
Again, it's just one fictional girl's perspective.
So true, but not doesn't make it any less important that she doesn't exist.
This would actually be a great segue into our next story, except that we didn't finish talking about this story.
What was the story?
Victoria Beckham is defending Brooklyn.
Oh, so what did she say?
So she said, it's rare people, not raw.
Okay, go off, Queen.
The way this is so
inconsequential to like the things going on in the world.
And
I can't even muster up a response.
Like, I don't, like, I don't fucking care.
Like, I mean, Brooklyn, there's people that are
Brooklyn didn't do this.
You know, it's the people who are constantly coming for him.
He kind of like really puts himself in these unfortunate situations.
Yeah.
With the cooking.
With the cooking, he's also like textbook Nepo Baby.
I was just, you literally took the words out of my mouth.
And now I'm realizing we did it on the Patreon.
So if you guys haven't listened, we recapped that whole Nepo Baby article.
I don't believe the Beckhams were included in that.
Yeah.
And so, but I also feel like it's bad.
I also feel like they weren't included in that that because aside from him like cosplaying as a chef, like it's not like he's tried to work in the industry and got jobs because of who his parents were.
Like we're just following him because he's a kid of David and Victoria.
That's actually so true.
And if it weren't for him trying to like break into the culinary field, like he really isn't a Nepo baby.
Like he doesn't, he's famous because his parents are famous, but you're right.
He's not in the industry at all.
Nicola is a nepo, but she's in the industry.
She like directs and acts.
Yes.
And she has no, she has no right to, like you know yeah so then when they have kids what's that nepo to the third
it's grand nepotism grand yeah but it's like not just your grandparents being stars your parents being
right you're a second generation nepo baby yeah
yeah that's like um billy lord
exactly
and
from what I learned from the article was like a lot of people had like grandparents.
Yeah, because their parents, like it just keeps keeps going, you know, yeah, the offspring of nepo babies are still nepo babies, and they're like the parents were successful because of their nepo, then they can't have the kid, yeah, blah blah blah.
It's a vicious cycle,
anyways.
Um,
it was raw and rare, not raw.
Do it that way, you will.
But I'm just glad to see that Victoria is still like defending him, even though there's so much
trouble in paradise.
A mother's love, mother's love knows no bounds, nothing like a toxic mother-in-law.
So true.
She's got,
she's got my respect.
I would pay big bucks to really know what's going on with that family.
Like, it intrigues me to the nth degree.
Yeah.
I'm sure you could.
And we'll never know.
Maybe you could find out.
Maybe someone will like DM you something.
You could ask Jumois what she knows.
Maybe I'll ask around when I'm in LA, like just people on the street.
I'll be one of those street interviewers.
What do you know about Nicola and the Peltz family?
Yeah.
Peltz Beckham.
Okay.
Peltz Beckham.
Our next story, something that we haven't.
Is this fourth?
This is the fourth.
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Great.
Thank you so much, McLaurin.
You're welcome.
Okay, our next story is something that is...
taking the nation by storm.
We have not spoken about this yet, but you know, it's a Friday, so we have the time to delve into this.
And things are really, we're starting starting to get information.
So the Idaho murders that took place late last year,
the suspected killer had been arrested on December 30th and charged with four counts of murder in connection with the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho students.
And yesterday, the affidavit was made public of what evidence they had to arrest this guy.
So the shocking killings of four University of Idaho students left the town of Moscow, Idaho on edge for nearly seven weeks while authorities searched for a killer.
On Friday, after remaining tight-lipped over the course of the initial investigation, authorities announced that Brian Koberger, 28, was arrested in Pennsylvania and charged with four counts of murder and one count of felony burglary in connection with the stabbing deaths of Madison Mogan, Tale Gunclavis, Zana Kernadle, and Ethan Chapin.
On January 3rd, Koberger waived his extradition and he was transported to Idaho on January 4th.
His preliminary hearing, where he will enter a plea to the charges against him, is scheduled for January January 12th.
Now that he is back in Idaho, the probable cause affidavit has been released, shedding light on what led investigators to arrest Koberger.
So this is so interesting because for literally seven weeks, actually until they arrested him, like it felt like they had nothing.
I was following this.
Oh, well,
the detectives on TikTok had solved it already.
That's part of the reason I haven't really spoken about this.
And this is my general sentiment towards true crime, especially as it happens in real time, like Gabby Petito.
The way people are so fucking out of control on social media, like it's so disrespectful.
Like when you see pictures of these like four young kids who died, it's like, it's so sad.
These are college kids who are just regular kids.
And I think the way the internet handles like true crime is so inappropriate and so disrespectful.
And like, that's why a lot of times like I don't keep up with these cases because it's very difficult to see people being so blatantly disrespectful when like literally a young person has died.
four.
Yeah, agreed.
I think that the sheriffs, what it seemed like for seven weeks that they didn't really have any leads.
I feel like they were being extremely tight-lipped.
This is just some of the theories that I've seen so that like nothing leaked and that he had no idea that they were onto him.
I even think that, so there was, we know now what led to his arrest.
According to the affidavit, which has been reviewed by People magazine, a sheath of the knife, so like the cover.
of the like an when you have a knife like you put a cover on it yeah a sheath of the knife used in the stabbings was left at the scene in the bed where mogan and goncalves were found deceased this is where detectives found dna linking koberger according to the affidavit.
Agents took trash from his parents' home in Pennsylvania to test for a DNA match, the documents allege.
Also, according to the affidavit, one of the surviving roommates said they saw the killer dressed in the affidavit as, quote, a figure clad in black clothing and a mask who walked past her as he left the crime scene and she heard crying on the night of the killings.
He was linked to the crime scene from DNA and cell phone pings, the affidavit alleged.
So, alleged.
So, they also had this car that was like seen leaving the area of the crime scene that night.
And they like traced camera footage to get the license plate.
So I think that's what started it.
They traced the license plate to him.
Then they got trash from his parents' house.
And you can collect DNA off of trash because it's forfeited property.
I just,
I, this is so baller the way the the Idaho police department handled this like with not a peep being leaked to the media going to Pennsylvania going through the trash like this is is such good police work.
Like,
Yeshar Kawach
to the police.
Like, this is like really incredible in getting like a fucking delirious psychotic killer.
Psychotic, violent killer.
Like, not shooting, stabbing, like, violent, evil, fucking twisted shithead.
This is Yeshar Kawach.
I don't know what the English translation for Yeshar Kawach is.
Java Dem, but like hardier than that.
He also was a student studying criminal justice and criminology.
It's also still unclear what the connection is, if any, between him and these students.
And I'm sure more will come out over the trial and as we learn more.
This is just like the first bit of information that we've received.
But also, did you see that?
So he was driving with his dad in the car to Pennsylvania and he was stopped twice on the way, like traffic stops.
I saw body cab footage.
And those, I,
at first, I think people, we all thought like, oh, what a coincidence.
And they have like this stuff where he was on the run.
But those were like coordinated to get images of his hands from the traffic stops.
So they were like tailing him until they had the evidence that they needed to arrest him.
This is,
it's just amazing police work.
Like it's so, it's like, you know, you see CSI in SVU and then you learn from actual law enforcement.
Like it's never like that.
You know, it takes, it takes months to get a fingerprint.
And this is some real like CSI magic.
Like it's so, it's so brilliant.
It's so amazing.
And they're doing such a like a service to the families of these kids.
I do have questions.
Like I don't understand the connection between Brian and these kids and nobody does.
But how do you go into a house with six people with the intent to stab four of them and then he left?
Did he not see the other two?
Yeah, so two were still alive.
One of them saw him.
It's unclear if he saw her and left her alive.
And if he did, why did he do that?
Also, that other student roommate who saw him, like, didn't call the police for several several hours.
I think people are really confused by that too.
I'm sure we'll learn more.
Yeah.
And I don't want to, and I don't want to jump to any conclusions.
I'm sure this person is traumatized beyond belief.
Beyond.
No, I.
Definitely, I saw the, I think it was like eight hours, like a long time was wait before the police was called.
And I was definitely like, oh, that's interesting.
My gut, my initial reaction is not to blame her.
Her, literally, her entire house of friends was just stabbed.
Like, I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation and I look forward to hearing it yeah also then they have like cell phone pings that they like now that once he became the prime suspect like then other things started to fall into line so like he turned his phone off at the time of the murder so that his phone couldn't be traced to cell phone towers which is like something a criminal justice student would probably need to do.
But then his phone was seen in the area again that next morning, like five hours later at 9 a.m.
I don't know if he like left something.
He went back to the scene of the crime.
And then he probably wanted to see like what?
I also, I like started following an Instagram account that's just like updating us on the story.
Abbott Davids are typically like pretty all of the like basic evidence that was needed to arrest this person.
But then like there will be more because now that they they are looking, then they can look into his social media.
They can look into, they can do a whole thing.
But this is the big stuff of how they led to him, which I do think is pretty incredible.
It's incredible.
This is such a terrible story.
And I think
I always just get like so
like grossed out when certain cases, I don't know what it is about like Gabby Petito, because stuff like this happens all the time, but like certain cases like catch the attention of the nation.
And I think the way people behave is like sometimes really abhorrent and disrespectful.
So
It's just like a really, it's a terrible story just for, you know, college kids, like young kids who are like, their whole lives are ahead of them, stabbed in their house in their sleep.
Like, it's, it's fucking terrible.
And I literally, I wish the worst for this man.
I,
I hate this man.
Yeah.
It's horrible for their families.
I think I, it's terrible.
It's very difficult to go through like, obviously, a tragedy, grief, and then the added element of like people on social media like literally coming to your house, like stop.
Yeah, of course.
But I think also now being able to have a suspect and there's less of just like what happened here because for so many weeks it felt like there was no leads.
I think it's it's huge.
And I just majorly hope that justice is served.
Me too.
Fuck this man, like every which way.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is looking like it won't be Jen Cha sentencing?
Nope, nothing.
Okay.
Well, the same, but different.
Nicole Kidman is set to star in Yellowstone Creators' upcoming CIA drama, Lioness.
So, Nicole Kidman.
Okay, wait, that was a mouthful.
Nicole Kidman is working with Tyler Sheridan.
Taylor?
Tyler?
On Paramount Plus' upcoming CIA drama called Lioness.
So it's not part of the Yellowstone family.
Okay.
But we love ourselves a little, Taylor Sheridan, and so does Nicole Kidman, apparently.
She is going to be producing on the project, which she was to begin with, but now she's also set to star in the series.
I feel like this came about because like her and Keith Urban probably just like really like Yellowstone.
Yeah, so she just like was probably at a dinner party with the man that she respected, how we worked together.
First, it was like, oh, we'll produce.
And then maybe they needed a lead character.
And it's like, well, you're the kind of the greatest actress I know.
Totally.
And then you play Caitlin Mead, the veteran CIA senior supervisor who struggles with her personal and professional life balance, as well as mentoring someone who is eerily following in her same steps.
And now maybe like next season, like Keith Urban has like a very brief stint on Yellowstone.
You know, this season they had Lainey Wilson and Zach Bryan, more like not unknown, but like still up-and-comers.
But if they had Keith Urban, like that'd be pretty sick.
Yeah.
That would be really sick.
Let's hold out.
Hope.
Just an idea.
But in the meantime, I love this.
Yeah, I feel like everything thus far we have seen from Taylor Sheridan is nothing less than gorgeous.
And Nicole Kidman putting her stamp of approval on something like, you know, her last couple of shows, The Undoing.
I didn't like it, Nine Perfect Strangers, but people did.
Big Little Lies.
Like, she really, she kills it in the TV space.
Yeah.
Did you finish Nine Perfect Strangers?
No.
I couldn't even make it past episode one.
Once her accent.
Nasha.
Maybe, I think, I think episode two is when we actually meet Nicole Kidman.
And the second I heard her accent, I turned it off.
It was so bad.
No, thank you.
No, thank you.
But what I'm saying is like these two are pretty much like guaranteed to make good shit.
Yeah, he has a really cult following.
So does she.
I mean, I'm i'm in the venn diagram i'll be watching this
yeah no it's definitely not the collab you would have expected yeah
but it's the one we got and nonetheless i'm thrilled ditto and then i don't know that any of his shows really get nominated for the big accolades yellowstone never not in the way that you would think maybe they finally got nominated but they've never swept like it's the show the whole country's watching and like they The award shows don't reflect that.
But I feel like with her, they love her.
Maybe this is his way of like kind of getting his foot in the door with like Hollywood Elite.
Yeah,
because he's like a downhome country boy, yeah.
But this could be the show that gets him those nominations.
What's Taylor Sheridan's like personal life like?
I think that he is a cowboy.
I don't, no, I'm sorry.
Is he married?
He's married.
And that, and his wife is who Beth is based on.
Apparently, she's like a fast-talking queen like Beth.
Stop.
That's so cute.
It's really cute.
What's his wife's name?
I think her name is Nicole.
Yeah, Nicole.
Nicole Meerbrook.
They're married since 2013, and she's absolutely gorgeous.
And what does she do for work?
Like, is she
in the industry?
She has an impressive career of her own, says Hollywood Life.
And that career is that
she is a model and an actress.
Nice.
Has she ever been in Yellowstone?
No, I don't think so.
Her first gig was on How I Met Your Mother.
She also played a role in the film The Human Contract.
She was in the TV.
Did she have like a big role on How I Met Your Mother, or like an extra?
They don't say.
Hollywood Life didn't say.
Interesting.
Well, seems as though, you know, your wife is an actress.
You have a number one show in the country.
You put yourself on your show all the time, Travis.
Right.
She's also an equestrian and competes in
cutting competitions, including the 2020 Carity Foundation Celebrity Cutting Event, where she received top honors.
So she is a cowgirl, too.
No, it's so authentic.
That's why the show is so good.
So I think he's immensely inspired by her, and that's why Beth is so awesome.
That's great.
I love that.
Me too.
Art imitating life.
Well, we are at the end of the show.
Still no Gen Shaw news.
So I'm sure the verdict will come the moment the show ends.
But that just means we have someone to talk about on Monday when I'm in LA.
I love LA.
So reminder, if you're on the West Coast, perfect, because we're going to be recording on West Coast time.
If you're on the East Coast, episodes will be out later next week.
That's the price you pay when you're a fabulous starlet in Hollywood, you know, young Hollywood queen.
Totally.
They'll probably be out an hour later than usual.
So not, we're still recording earlier.
I'm waking up recording earlier than usual, but like within, you know.
Reason for McClured.
Girls got to sleep.
So just bear with us.
So it'll probably be an hour, an hour and a half half later than it's usually up.
But it's been a great week.
It's been so good to be back.
I have enjoyed this immensely.
Thank you guys for being so excited about the toast coming back.
It feels good to, you know, not
to be missing, to not feel like, you know, it's like an echo chamber.
You know, there are people listening.
It's nice.
They are.
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