Growth and Roots with Olivia Culpo: Friday, December 16th, 2022

1h 28m
  • Khloe Kardashian Won’t Let Daughter True Sleep At Sister Kourtney’s House (Page Six) (18:30)
  • Prince Harry Pictured in Stunned Silence at Brother Williams’ Text Following Explosive Oprah Expose (NY Post) (25:24)
  • Todd Chrisley: Chloe’s Biological Mom Has ‘No Rights’ To 10-Year-Old (Page Six) (43:23)
  • ‘Sister Wives’ Meridian Brown Confirms her 32-Year-Marriage To Kody Is Over (People) (50:52)
  • ‘Where The Crawdads Sing’ Star Daisy Edgar-Jones to Play Carole King in ‘Beautiful’ Movie (People) (55:16)
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    Good morning, Millennials.

    Welcome back to The Toast, the final episode of the year.

    Hey, Jax,

    how do you dern?

    I'm doing great because we're together and the brethren are here and it's all hands on deck for the last show of the year.

    I think it was Janet Jackson who once said, I know we'll be together again because

    everywhere I go, every smile I see, I I know you are there, Marshall Anthony.

    That's how me and Brian sing it because Brian's dog's name is Marshall.

    And I don't know why we call him Marshall Anthony, but that's so cute.

    It's like literally, actually, Brian does what you do, like stride.

    He puts Marshall Anthony in everything.

    I love that for him.

    Yeah, I bet now he'll do Dean Kelly Anthony.

    Um, even though Anthony's not his middle or last name, it's just I don't actually don't know why Brian is obsessed with the name Anthony.

    He puts Anthony in everything.

    That's like Joey Camasta puts Marie.

    Yeah, yeah.

    Is it Marie or Trish?

    No, he like, I think that's two separate things.

    Like he gives everyone the middle name Marie.

    That's funny.

    So yeah, you heard it right.

    Final episode of the year.

    I had to come down for it.

    Let's take a look at the year at a glance.

    At a glance.

    We shall.

    And I just want to say, because it's the final episode of the year, I'm wearing this sweater that I've actually had for a while and I completely forgot about or else I would have worn it on the day that she passed.

    But it's this fabulous Libertine sweater.

    So if you don't like it, blame Libertine, not me, with images of of the queen and i thought that you were coming in here because you have watched harry and megan i have not because i had the longest day and i'm like not jackie making a statement no i didn't think we were talking about harry and megan today because you didn't watch so then i thought we would talk about it together but you're like you know what i don't know when i'm gonna watch why don't you just like recap your thoughts on the show if i knew i was talking about harry and megan today i would not have worn this sweater because

    like imagine just watching like a clip of whatever my thoughts are on harry and megan it's like where does she stand yeah no and it's like i wonder if this girl's on team royal or team harry and megan is this girl biased so i didn't have time to watch it obviously i was on the plane yesterday um and i've been seeing so much coming out of it and like i actually really enjoyed parts one two and three

    keep the magic in tactic i know i'm like i'm seeing so much and it's like i feel like it's really gonna upset me and i think i'm just gonna stay where i'm at It was so bad as far as reasons why they left.

    We have some reasons.

    I don't feel like we have the reason.

    A lot of it didn't make sense to me.

    There was like so much propaganda and just like confusing stuff and like just like big buzzwords, you know, like misinformation is a global humanitarian crisis.

    That's literally what Harry said.

    Yeah.

    I was like, what are you talking about?

    Totally.

    So I'll talk about my thoughts.

    But anyways, the sweatshirt isn't, the sweater is an aside.

    And actually, Snitch picked it out.

    She came to my closet this morning because I was asking her what to wear.

    And she saw the sweater.

    She's like, why don't you wear that?

    And I was like, why don't I wear that?

    Because 2022 for 2022 for me was the year of the queen.

    2022 for me was the year of the toast.

    I feel like this was such

    a not to make

    everything about us,

    but I feel like you know, this was a really important year for us.

    I feel like it was a very transitional year.

    Yes, I the flamingos joined us.

    Jackie and I were actually invited on

    this power women's summit to talk about like the business of podcasting.

    And it's on YouTube if you want to watch it.

    It's like a lot of like business podcasting stuff.

    And we talked a lot about our rebrand and more importantly, like your move.

    And I thought that this was going to be the year that like the toast like didn't end, but it was the slow march to the end.

    Yeah, like the official beginning of the the end yeah um but i supported you in your decision of course to move and this move has just been so revitalizing for our brand it's a podcast larr's party new beginnings new beginnings and i just feel like this was a really good year for the toast i feel like we got so many new toasters we blew up on tick tock i i mean what more can you ask for than blowing up on tick tock i lost weight i mean oh my god like

    What more could you ask for?

    I had a baby.

    Oh, right.

    That's great.

    I moved.

    Yeah.

    You would have thought that this year would have been like

    we're working on some other stuff.

    So the toast, like, kind of would have taken a back seat, but no.

    No, no.

    No.

    So I made the journey down.

    I'm so happy to be here.

    I slept amazing last night.

    Woke up literally.

    You cannot pull me out of bed in New York.

    Like I will take a full hour before getting out of bed.

    I hopped out of bed.

    I'm like, Harry's awake.

    And my room is right next to his.

    Yeah, but that's the thing about motherhood.

    Like, even though I used to hate waking up, like couldn't couldn't catch me doing it.

    I would always be tired.

    Like, no matter what time I woke up, always miserable.

    Like, now when I wake up, I'm tired.

    I like pee and brush my teeth, like, with my eyes closed.

    And then once I get into his room, like, I'm up.

    And it's a pleasant experience.

    He's so fucking gorgeous.

    Like, I just love living with him.

    I said, I'm like, Jackie, I think

    it would be kind of cool of you.

    And it's actually kind of not cool that you haven't.

    I think like, obviously, I talk about a lot.

    Like, having kids is definitely something I want to do.

    in theory in theory but like the act of doing it is just so not on like my list of things that I want to do like I'm just I would like the child to be here

    and there's literally a child downstairs and I just think the fact that you haven't even even offered to like I don't know maybe we could do joint custody like I think it's kind of rude um he could be your ward because like you're gonna have more kids and I feel like you don't like hate the idea of being pregnant like you should do that.

    No, but it's like not fair.

    Of course, like I've just accepted it, but it's not fair.

    Like you get to be on your snatcheler journey.

    Right.

    And you're my surrogate.

    No.

    I'm nice.

    I'm a good sister.

    I'm not that good.

    I know.

    Actually, I was reading this book and this guy, I wouldn't say the book, but like they're in love and she has a lot of fertility issues and like.

    He really wants to have kids.

    And so she literally can't.

    And so she like leaves him and it's so painful.

    And he comes back with this whole plan.

    And he said, my sister actually, she offered to be a surrogate.

    And I was like, oh my man, it couldn't be me.

    That would literally never be you.

    I mean, actually, let's be real.

    Let's be real.

    Never.

    You don't even want to do it for yourself.

    No, for sure.

    But let's say like years from now, I've done it for myself.

    And like somebody in the family like needs a surrogate.

    Like I would, like I would do it.

    I would do anything for my family.

    Years from now, my stuff is done.

    Yeah.

    Yes, I agree with that.

    Yeah.

    Like hopefully nobody asks.

    Yeah.

    No, I would be open to it.

    Yeah.

    At that time.

    So, oh my God, we haven't even spoken.

    spoken about how it's our final episode of the year.

    We're looking at the toast at a glance.

    And we're ending the year with such a sickening guest, someone who we've spoke so highly of on this show.

    Over the years.

    Over the years.

    She's never wavered.

    Never wavered.

    We've been talking about her a lot with her new reality show.

    Olivia Culpo joined us.

    She will be joining this.

    If you're listening to this podcast, just keep listening.

    It'll be at the end of the episode.

    If you're watching on YouTube, Olivia joined us via satellite as well.

    So there's another video on our channel right after this one with the Olivia interview.

    And she looks so stunning.

    It's just Jackson, Claude, and Olivia.

    Like nothing, nothing new there.

    No, and we spoke about snitch the whole time, so we had all four sisters represented.

    Yeah, we'd love a sister who works with and respects other sisters.

    It was a really good interview, so be sure to check that out.

    And we're just going out on a high.

    And I know everyone's sad.

    The toast is over.

    What am I going to do?

    And that's why Patreon exists.

    I can't stress that point enough.

    Yeah.

    I actually am filming a vlog today with the snatcher because she's doing her snatchler thing and going to steal all of my clothes.

    Like we're going to go through my closet and give her stuff that's just like too young for me and that I probably won't ever wear again, like in this new phase of my life.

    And you guys can come along and watch me get pillaged by the snatcher.

    Pillaged.

    And then one of my favorite things to do is like Margo's like, oh, I got some new clothes.

    Can I try them on for you?

    Oh yeah.

    And then there will be a try on.

    Watching like a young person with a near-perfect body just try on clothing is such a delight.

    You would think like it would make me like,

    what's the word I'm looking for?

    You think watching Margo try on clothes would like make me depressed and like hate myself, but it's actually like the funnest thing.

    I agree.

    It's just like, she's really like a fit model.

    Yeah.

    No, it's also fun because like you love the snatcher and it's exciting when people you love like try on clothes that you love.

    Yeah, but it's more so like from an aesthetic POV.

    Like she's so perfect.

    Snatcher, she's just in the other room.

    We should go get her.

    Snatchler, Snatchler.

    Also, speaking of perfect, yesterday we announced our collab with Spritz Society, our toast holiday pack, which is a variety pack, two grapefruit cans, two blood orange cans, two pineapple cans, two lemon cans in a toasty package with.

    a toasty poem is available at spritsociety.com.

    I know a bunch of you got them yesterday.

    I'm so glad to hear that, but just wanted to remind you, if you go to spritzociety.com, the toast holiday packs are available.

    They make a great gift for someone.

    And it's a five more, save more event.

    So if you get two packs, you get free shipping and 10% off.

    If you get three or more packs, you still get that free shipping, but you guys are getting 25% off.

    So for the toaster in your life, that's a great gift.

    You don't even have to wrap it because it's already wrapped.

    With a little bow and everything.

    And it has all the content that you need to get through the holidays, a playlist that you can scan on the bottom.

    A little poem by the Strice Brethren.

    Oh, and by the way, we didn't even acknowledge.

    We're like looking at our monitor in front of us.

    There's like 400 people in this tiny little frame because Bryce, Streis, Jackson and McClured, Leterd are here.

    And there's really no better way to send off into the holiday season and wrap up.

    And what has otherwise been an amazing year?

    Yeah.

    It's been strong.

    It's been good.

    I'm ready for 23, ready to take it on.

    Yeah.

    But I want to sit in 22 and appreciate the good times.

    We had asked Olivia Culpo this, and I think we should ask ourselves the same question.

    What are we toasting to in the new year?

    What are some things we want to bring into the new year?

    Olivia had a great answer.

    What was hers again?

    Well, I don't want to spoil it.

    Oh, okay, okay.

    What was it?

    But remember, I was like, couldn't be me?

    Oh, right, right, right, right.

    That's what we say every year.

    2023.

    I'm pretty happy where I'm at, honestly.

    I know.

    Like, that's the thing about resolutions.

    It's like, if you work on yourself all year long, which I try to,

    what's a resolution like more of the same i guess the resolution should be like to continue to work on myself yeah to continue the good work that you're doing 100

    100 yeah

    go viral on tick tock more keep keep on keeping on keep on keeping on 100

    yeah i agree it may be like visiting your sister even more even though you visit her so much it's just so fun when you're here I feel like I visit you so much.

    Like I, I think what in the time that I've moved, I've visited you, visited visited you equal amounts that you have visited me but it's like different because when i visit you i live with you you know i know but it's easier for one it's easier like you don't have to like get a hotel no it's true you're in a house you're coming to

    hotel harry it's it's horrible so the fact that i visited you as much no it's true you should be visiting me more and i'm not like trying to put pressure i just love having you i love being here come more i feel like i come as much as i can Especially given like this, that the latter half of the year was the busiest six months of my life, like between toast and tour and just work in general, I feel like I made as much time as possible.

    And now like in the new year, I've pretty much got nothing going on except toast and I can do that even better from here.

    I'll definitely be here quite a lot.

    Now that there's three nieces and nephews.

    It's the winter, so it's the best time to be here and not there.

    That's true.

    So I feel like that's the resolution.

    Spend as much time together as we can.

    It works for me.

    Great.

    And we've got a great show.

    I'm doing stories again.

    I'm doing ads again.

    We're going to talk, we'll recap a little bit of Harry and Megan because honestly, like I said, said I don't know if I have the stomach for it I know you already watched it.

    I don't think that you should I think you should stay where you are with like how much you like them This is like blissful ignorance.

    Yeah, there's like positives and negatives to my overall thoughts about them like and the positives are still that like their relationship is Rock solid and these two people and I feel like a lot of people are like well if you didn't want to be a princess you shouldn't have married a prince and

    they were never not getting like they are meant to be together so they had to figure out a way to be together.

    I'll talk about all of it in the and we have a story about it i mean great we have got some good stories

    oh my god excuse me i'm getting sick my body's shutting down because it's like please don't end the toast you want to go more my body's like oh my god i'm gonna wake up tomorrow and we're not gonna toast my body

    my shut up my body is protesting your body's just a workaholic i speaking of protests i don't know how that's a segue but i did make it to season five last night of yellowstone so i'm officially like caught up oh cool.

    So you can watch this weekend.

    Uh-huh.

    And in the new year, we'll have a great big recap.

    Then you should watch 1883.

    I plan on it.

    I need to finish 1883, so then I can watch 1923.

    And then you said, what did you tell me last night?

    That this is a good thing.

    Oh, this, this is crazy.

    Because I remember she said she really loved Jimmy, even though to me, he's like so irrelevant, whatever.

    And I was like, oh, so season five, Jimmy went to the sixes.

    She was like, yeah.

    And I was like, it's going to be a show.

    And she was like, huh.

    So the sixes is their own show.

    And I like that.

    Yeah.

    So that's what they were doing there.

    And I just realized that that horse wrangler guy, Travis, is Taylor.

    Sheridan.

    Cute.

    Because like this guy looks so like familiar.

    And I just Googled him and it was like, his name is Taylor Sheridan.

    I'm like, oh my God.

    Love that.

    From the commercials.

    Like he's always in, you don't watch with commercials, but he's always in the commercials, like talking about Yellowstone.

    Oh, oh, oh.

    I'm like, he does commercials.

    How did he get this job?

    So it's been a really fun journey.

    And so is this year.

    And I think there's no time like the present, honestly, to just

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    i mean have you heard of a trash bin it's hard it's in the other room I'm just,

    everything serves a purpose.

    No, I'm sure of that, but I was just genuinely shocked walking in this room.

    And that tissue with the lipstick is yours, yeah?

    Yes.

    Okay, that's the only thing that looks like outright garbage.

    Not that big pile of ads?

    No, pile of, what is that?

    Those are holiday lights from my, like, these are my work supplies.

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    When I did my holiday toes shoot, everything serves a purpose.

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    Sorry that my studio is not as big as yours.

    I'm just, I was shocked.

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    I'm hard-working queer.

    I was shocked.

    I was in tears almost.

    I'm a hardworking queen.

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    So our first story of the day is the video that everyone's talking about is Courtney Kardashian and Chloe Kardashian sat down for this Vanity Fair interview, and it was full of interesting information.

    I actually took notes on a few things that shocked me.

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    Came out around this time that Dumois released this blind about two sisters from an iconic family who are not speaking.

    So this video just like spiraled people into thinking about what's going on.

    But the story that everyone's talking about the moment from this Vanity Fair interview is that Chloe Kardashian will not let her daughter True sleep at her sister Courtney's house.

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    The Poosh founder asked, are you ever going to let True sleep over at my house?

    And Chloe responded, probably not.

    Courtney replied by asking if it was because they have too much fun over there.

    And Chloe said, no, I don't think we have enough time on this show for what the reason is.

    But then there was another interview where she said something like about True being too young for sleepovers, which I get.

    Sleepovers at your sister's house?

    I don't know.

    She has like older kids.

    Like she might not be able to keep up with them.

    Well, no, I think.

    And it's like a rite of passage to have your first sleepover.

    I don't think True is there yet, but there's something beyond that because she said she would never, never allow.

    So I had two thoughts.

    The first was like, maybe Chloe from her own childhood has like sleepover trauma.

    Like some people really didn't like sleepovers.

    They had bad experiences.

    Like maybe she doesn't want to pass that on to True.

    Or, and we've spoken about this a lot and i feel like their kardashians have spoken about it too a lot of the girls having like just fundamental issues with the way courtney parents and like maybe they just don't i don't know how much could happen in one night i know but and they have staff around yeah i thought that was interesting yeah but i also i had written i think it's i think it's two things i think like if True could go on any sleepover in the world, like Chloe wouldn't send her to Courtney's for whatever reason.

    Maybe she doesn't like the snacks that she has, a bunch of stuff.

    And two, I think Chloe is like anti-sleepover in general.

    Yeah.

    I mean, like, if it's

    kind of like children, like, they will sleep at your house like all the time.

    So I can just sleep in.

    Like, that's totally

    like your house, Olivia's house, Margaret's house.

    That's not a sleepover.

    A sleepover is with, you know, strangers.

    Yeah, I agree.

    And when it comes to strangers, like they can all sleep here.

    By the way, I agree.

    They can all sleep here.

    I'll get some bunk beds.

    I used to low up mattresses.

    I used to have sleepovers.

    And I couldn't imagine.

    Like, I know there were friends of mine who like weren't allowed.

    And I was like, oh my God, that sucks.

    But now I'm like, no, like crazy.

    I actually saw um this woman on tick tock who investigates she's a police detective like

    children's crimes and she was like here are things i will never do as a mom as a police detective who's been investigating children's crimes and she was like i will never let my kids out of sleep over

    I thought it was really interesting.

    Okay.

    And maybe the, and maybe Chloe saw that TikTok.

    Maybe.

    And she's just taking it really seriously.

    Some other takeaways I had from this video.

    The first was that I had literally no idea Chloe's middle name was Alexandra.

    Did you know that?

    No.

    The other thing that i found interesting is that courtney watches yellowstone yes and that um chloe did not like her dress courtney's wedding dress which like

    i appreciated her honesty but it's also then like i kind of respect her decision more because like for me like i will literally not pick a dress for the opening of an envelope without sending a picture to you guys and being like are sure are sure

    and courtney was like so into it that like even if her sister said they didn't like it like she still moved forward with it so at least she felt pretty yeah apparently they're like critical of her style right now i feel like her style is pretty like mellow Fine.

    It's like she got really like travesty, but now she's like found a blend of like, yeah, you know, being like rocker.

    Even when it was really travesty, it wasn't that bad.

    It's just like, it's not my personal style.

    It's just like more etchy.

    Yeah.

    Like, I don't know what the problem is with that.

    No, me neither.

    I thought the video was really cute.

    I like seeing the sisters do sister things.

    I don't know why they did it.

    Like, what are they?

    promoting.

    Chloe was definitely out here promoting Nurtech OTD, the over-the-counter.

    I know the prescription migraine medication commercials that she's on because the YouTube video stopped four times with the Nurtech OTD commercial before, during, and after i should ask my doctor about it you should and get the tea on nurtech otd i don't know why they did it either and i was curious if anyone felt like this just kind of like weird vibe like chloe's usually very um

    i don't know she felt like like she was feeling like defensive and like a little standoffish no they it was just that chloe's usually like very warm and i felt like it was a little um stilted

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    What's the opposite of warm?

    Cold?

    Yes, that's, yeah, that's the opposite.

    That's like the vibe.

    I feel like she wasn't being like classic Chloe, like how she would with like Chris or Kim.

    Yeah, because I think that's just her and Courtney's relationship right now.

    But I think that they are fine.

    And honestly, if they really had a problem, they would not be doing this video.

    And I thought it was fun that they were able to laugh at themselves.

    I thought that they actually asked some like real questions, not just like stupid stuff.

    Yeah.

    But then speaking of what you just said, this is the blind item that went viral.

    And I feel like it's, if we learned anything last week from like the Ariel Charnas drama, it's like, just take anonymous gossip on the surface.

    Like it's not that deep.

    If If at all.

    If at all.

    But the du moi blind was two sisters of this iconic family are not even in contact with each other anymore.

    You may see them in pictures, but it's purely for show.

    A reconciliation is highly unlikely.

    The older one has basically confirmed the falling out as well.

    It makes you think that it's Courtney and Kim.

    Kim, yeah.

    Yeah.

    Just because they've always, they, I just feel like they are very different.

    They're so different.

    And I haven't seen them together in a while, but we also haven't seen them all together.

    I guess since Thanksgiving, they were all together.

    No, and they did just have this Kardashian brands like holiday dinner.

    Did you see?

    Like the Good American Teams, the skin.

    I saw a little bit.

    Yeah, but I didn't see who like Eval was there.

    Yeah.

    But then other people were saying it could be Kathy Hilton and Kyle.

    But something about that didn't feel like it.

    I wouldn't call it iconic family.

    Iconic with two Ks.

    Oh.

    Duh.

    I was like, why did the person spell it like that?

    I'm not okay.

    They need to go to the spelling B.

    Literally, Aquila.

    Somebody get Aquila.

    No, it's definitely not.

    It has.

    Okay.

    By the way, I didn't even think about the K thing.

    It's obviously about the kardashians but that still doesn't mean that it's true right um but i could see it being kim and courtney but i do feel like courtney i feel like it could be kim and courtney like because i feel like courtney would get really um defensive of like

    child exploitation and be like upset with kim that she didn't take a harder stance oh my god you're so right also i don't know if you saw but alexa demi officially like i saw what was that two months yeah it took a long time took a long time I don't know her, so I don't like, I don't follow her.

    It's not on me to like hold her accountable because I never never held her anywhere else.

    No, by the way, you're so right.

    I could definitely see that being like a thing.

    That was just the only thought I had.

    Because you know what?

    Say what you want about Courtney, but like she is scrupled.

    Oh, beyond.

    Like a little too scrupled.

    No, and it's just like random, some of the like hills she'll die on.

    Yeah.

    This isn't a one worth pursuing.

    Amazing, you're 100% right.

    I don't know.

    That's just like, that's my

    working theory, but I'm not saying that that's what it is.

    Our next story is the Prince Harry and Megan of it all.

    One of the pieces that they spoke about that's really gone viral is Harry being pictured in stunned silence as his brother William's text following the explosive Oprah interview.

    So a stunned Prince Harry was filmed holding an apparently grim text message from an older brother, Prince William, whom Harry portrayed as a screaming bully who forced him out of the family.

    The final episode of Harry and Megan caught the explosive aftermath of Harry's damning 2021 Oprah Winfrey interview, after which the heir to the throne, William, told a reporter, I haven't spoken to him yet, but I will do.

    The Netflix cameras were rolling when William sent that text message while Megan Markle was on the phone with celebrity pal Tyler Perry.

    While Markle finished reading out the response of Queen Elizabeth II to their Winfrey interview, the camera cut to her husband standing over her, wordlessly holding out his phone for her to read.

    What am I looking at?

    She asked, and seconds later gasped, wow.

    He just got a text from his brother, she explains to.

    Tyler Perry, before hugging her overwhelmed husband, who laments, I wish I knew what to do.

    The docuseries did not detail what was in the text.

    William was the focus of many of the most...

    William was the focus of many of Harry's most explosive allegations of mistreatment in the final three episodes.

    The acrimony started with William apparently breaking a pact not to let their teams trade negative press stories about each other, which Harry called heartbreaking.

    Okay, let me get into it because I felt like the whole storyline was fraught with contradictions and missing pieces.

    So the big question that I've always had is like, what was so bad that they had to leave?

    Why did they leave and why did they do it the way that they did it?

    So the documentary pretty much says this.

    there was a period of time before they left um and it was a period where megan was pregnant they were on a tour it was a lot of work and the media had started being it was weird it was contradictory the media was like really hard on her but at the same time they were saying that megan was so beloved on the tour it was like giving diana they had this event at buckingham palace the whole family was there Megan and Harry even slept over at the palace that night.

    They were having breakfast together the next morning, just the two of them.

    And the paper comes out and Megan's on the cover.

    Like she shined the brightest out of everyone.

    and

    the they were like and so you know that the family doesn't like that so it's like

    is it the media doesn't like the media is too hard on you but they put you on the cover you're the darling of the media which one is it and i also felt like at any given time you could find in on any day positive headlines about megan and harry and negative headlines about megan and harry and on the same like day you could find positive man on the street interviews about megan and harry negative you could find positive reporters talking about them and they just like kept inserting clips and headlines to like fit whatever they were saying at the time.

    And it just felt like there was always so much positive and so much negative that it's like

    it was hard to tell what was what.

    Anyway, so the media was like really, really hard on her.

    And when she's pregnant, it's, she became extremely depressed.

    And so I think it was a combination of things based on what they said.

    A lot of things they spoke very vaguely about, but I think it was like the media scrutiny, scrutiny,

    the job itself.

    When they were living at their first cottage, it was like small.

    Like it was not fabulous.

    Like the ceilings were like this high.

    She said, Oprah came for tea.

    And she was like, if people only knew.

    Yeah, that's actually funny.

    Very unfabulous, I think.

    And it caused, and then all the stuff like that was going on in the media with her dad.

    And then she said she was doing one of her walkabouts.

    And one of the women was like, it's terrible the way you're treating your dad.

    And then that made her realize, like, oh, people are really believing some of this stuff.

    So it sent her like into a

    very deep depression.

    Then she gave birth to Archie and they didn't do the royal birth protocol the same way that it's been done in the past.

    I don't think that she said at no point did anyone say like, you can't do it this way.

    But I guess maybe like the media felt a little burned that they didn't get those steps pictures.

    I mean, those steps pictures are fucking insane.

    I know, but I feel like, I mean, they did have like Princess Anne, was it?

    Or maybe it was Margaret.

    Like, so someone who's not in direct line on the steps.

    But other than that, it's Diana, it's Kate, and it's Queenie herself.

    Like, it's not people.

    there it yeah like they can do it from the throne room two days later right that's fine by me anyways they at the end of 2019 they're going they went to vancouver to like take a break because like megan needed a break and also

    after archie's born after archie yeah archie must be six months at this point because he's born in may

    and already like the house is being swarmed and

    There's people like it's an island and there's like boats outside and it's like crazy madness.

    So Harry says like they want to for years they've been talking about moving outside of the UK, being like half in, half out.

    There was a plan for them to move to New Zealand that never took off.

    There was a plan for them to move to South Africa, but then it got leaked.

    And once things get leaked, like it's never going to go through.

    So they wanted to move to Canada, which is still in the Commonwealth.

    And they still want to work for the Queen.

    So he writes a letter to his dad, like saying, we want to move to Canada.

    Like, this is our plan.

    If it doesn't work.

    we will relinquish our titles.

    And

    then that letter gets leaked.

    And it's like, so that I think that was the first, I'm trying to like also follow it in the way that I remember it.

    That was like the first thing of like Megan and Harry are stepping down from the family.

    They're half in, half out.

    So then they go to the UK.

    They have this meeting with the queen and everyone.

    I think only Harry was there.

    And they offered five options.

    One option being like everything stays as it is, like you stay in the family.

    Five being like, you have nothing.

    So like a spectrum.

    A spectrum.

    And he chose number three.

    Oh, so somewhere in the middle.

    Then after that meeting, there was a report in the press that the brothers, that William had bullied Harry out of the family.

    And up until in the documentary, they never mentioned anything about William and Kate, their treatment in the family, and that being a reason why Megan was like so unhappy and why they had to leave ever, not once.

    So I'm here sitting here being like, oh, so that report is like very untrue.

    And the royal family is like in a tailspin right now.

    Like two members are like leaving.

    There's a report that the brothers are fighting.

    So they immediately issue a statement from their joint office without consulting Harry Harry saying these reports are untrue.

    Like there's no bad blood between the brothers.

    And that's when Harry says, wow, they were willing to lie for William, but they never were willing to tell the truth to protect us.

    So it's like, I understand that frustration.

    It's like all this time with all the stories about Tom, it's like Megan could never say anything.

    They could never tell their friends.

    Right.

    No, that's frustrating.

    But in five seconds, they'll put out this quote unquote lie to protect William.

    But that's.

    But it's not to protect William.

    It's to protect everyone.

    It's protect everyone.

    Like they're in free fault right now.

    And according to what I've been watching this whole time, william was never willing to bully you out of the family you've never spoken about him you know what so if the reason why you guys were so unhappy if part of that had to do with like william and kate's treatment and you're sitting down to do a documentary like say it because then don't say that them putting out that statement was a lie because i'm saying they were saying where's the lie no the only thing they said even in the first part is like the first time they met it was like a little formal yes that's all they said it So then after they put out that statement, like Megan and Harry were flabbergasted that they would run so quickly to William's defense.

    It's a kind of an overreaction, and they went away all.

    Like, they, oh, that was that was it, like, that's what sent them over the edge.

    And yep, that was what sent them over the edge.

    And they said, We're leaving the family.

    Um, they, you know, they were in Canada, they're packing up their things.

    Can I say something?

    I feel like when they were in it, and like they had a baby, and they were like very anxious, and she was dealing with, you know, mental health.

    Like, I feel like

    perhaps

    they

    not overreacted but like

    maybe overreacted and now they're like trying to justify but like now when you look back in hindsight you think like oh was it that bad but like when you're in it it's like oh my god we have to get out of this situation right because you never like i think for harry and everything really is i think harry's doing doing um because he's the only one really who has the

    like he's the only one who could make these decisions like i think he would never have done it without megan like she showed him that he could do it but it really kind of now looking back like feels like he always had one foot out the door and i never realized like like how much trauma he has from childhood.

    Everything comes from Diana, like really.

    And I think with everything, every day with Megan and everything that happens to her, he just sees it through the lens of like how it can end up like Diana.

    And so he, when he sees like something's like going badly and Megan's not doing well, he's like, I'm removing my family from this.

    No, and you know what?

    Megan not always like, like, you know, I'm sure the psychiatrist would diagnose it, but he's trying to be the person that like his mom.

    He wishes his mom had.

    Yes.

    No.

    And honestly, Megan's mental health and like her depression, and I know she had suicidal thoughts, like that's reason enough.

    Like they should have left.

    Yeah.

    But I don't know why on the way out and now even they feel the need to burn everything to the ground.

    So here's the thing.

    So they left, remember?

    And I feel like everyone was pretty, I mean, obviously there's always people who are not, but on the whole, pretty respectful.

    I feel the queen was still like, they're doing what's best for them.

    I'm sure that, you know, everyone, the family behind their door, behind closed doors were pissed, but like everyone was still acting right.

    And like, this is a okay, happy family thing.

    Things went south at the Oprah interview.

    That's what changed everything.

    And they spoke about it a little bit, but I think,

    and I think that they should, I think they have regret.

    Also, the Oprah interview talked about a lot of things.

    And Megan said, she was like, I thought the big takeaway from the Oprah interview would be like my mental health.

    Right.

    No, it wasn't.

    It was the race.

    Yeah.

    And then in this documentary, they didn't mention that comment again.

    They didn't mention like any

    racist actions or feelings from the family.

    Like there was nothing about the family.

    So it was a very good idea.

    Except the brooch, but that was an irrelevant application.

    From the family.

    Yeah, the core.

    Yeah.

    So

    it kind of was telling a different story than the Oprah interview.

    And it kind of.

    felt like they were backtracking a little bit.

    I think that the Oprah interview, like that severed things.

    And that's when William sent that text.

    And I think if they had just left and did what was best for themselves and their family and their mental health, which at that point, like I understand.

    Of course.

    Because they were being like swarmed.

    And it's just not easy and you have a new baby and you're so anxious.

    Like, if we're never going to sit on the throne, then for what?

    What are we working for?

    What for what?

    I agree.

    Like, I get it now.

    And the Oprah interview changed everything.

    Yeah, of course.

    And I just feel like this story is actually really emblematic.

    This New York Post story I just read is very emblematic of like their vibe.

    It's like throwing out like a grenade, like, look at this text.

    And then not telling us what it is.

    So it's like, we have to imagine.

    I just feel like they're kind of always like saying big things and not backing it up.

    Like even again, you watch this whole six-part documentary and you are not entirely sure what the reason was that they left.

    Yes.

    Also, a big reason of why they left was

    this suit with the Daily Mail.

    So the Daily Mail printed a letter that Megan wrote to Thomas Markle at the advice of the queen and Prince Charles.

    Like she, she went to the queen, like, what should I do?

    Everyone said, write him a letter.

    She wrote him a letter.

    She sent it to her agent in LLLA, made sure the agent got it to him, and he gave it to the press.

    Of course, she said that the signature on delivery was not Thomas's signature.

    So it was obviously someone else.

    And then the Daily Mail published a letter.

    A lot of it is redacted.

    And

    they showed us one redacted line.

    And it's just, I wish for nothing but peace and for you to be well.

    I think that was a nice letter.

    It was a nice letter.

    But it's such an invasion of privacy.

    I would love to have seen all the other redactions, but they're saying like anything that they redacted was things that would have made Megan look better.

    Anyways, you're not allowed to publish a letter like that.

    So Megan sued.

    Good.

    But for a while, she went to the first, the lawyer at within the palace and she was like, we're going to sue.

    And they were like, great.

    And like, nothing happened.

    And then eventually they went and sought outside counsel and they sued.

    And I think they said it too.

    Like, that was the first time that they stepped outside the bounds of the firm.

    Right.

    Like, once you're starting to get your own lawyers, like, then, what about in our own house?

    No.

    Totally, totally.

    So.

    She never had support in her suit.

    The suit like went on for years.

    She eventually won and she won on appeal.

    Did

    Camilla and Charles sue the publication that ran that phone call of theirs?

    Because to me, that's where mind mind goes.

    And it sounds like her letter made her look good.

    It's still an invasion of privacy.

    I don't think that they did.

    And that's what everyone said.

    It's like, well, we didn't even sue when this happened.

    We don't, we don't.

    Yeah, we didn't.

    We don't because this they have this relationship.

    No, it's, it's the relationship, but it's also this thinking that like, we pay for your life and this is the price that you pay us, which is like

    a,

    you open up your whole world to us.

    That's why we want to see our baby when it's born.

    That's the right that we have.

    Yeah.

    No, I get it.

    I think it's a little extreme.

    Like, I do think, you know, they're not like animals at the zoo.

    No, and even public people whose lives are paid for by the tax are entitled to a modicum of privacy.

    Like, I don't, I don't subscribe to that notion.

    And you know what?

    It's not my tax dollars, but if it was, I would say, you know what?

    I'll see your baby in two weeks.

    Go take a nap.

    Yeah.

    Totally.

    So I think it's become a little extreme.

    But I also think for centuries, the Crown has had a relationship with the media.

    Yeah.

    But the media has never been as pervasive as it is now.

    You know, every, it used to be there was a newspaper and we have to fill the pages.

    There was one.

    Now it's like we have unlimited pages on our website.

    We have unlimited places for ads.

    Unlimited publications.

    As many stories and then there's social media and like there's just it never ends.

    Yeah, no, it never ends.

    So the contract like isn't working.

    No, it's in the modern era.

    No, and it's, it doesn't make sense why they have this like toxic relationship.

    Yeah.

    with the British tabloids.

    And it's like, not even like, okay, you want to have like, okay, be you and British Vogue, sure.

    But like the sun?

    Yeah.

    It's like so tacky.

    Yeah.

    I do think that the family like should probably rethink, but I would love to hear from them on

    the what the value is.

    I'm sure they've, they've evaluated.

    I also would love to know how much of taxpayer money goes towards the royal family in a year and how much money the royal family brings in in revenue in a year.

    So they bring in more than they spend, which is why they're still around, because if the country was like losing hundreds of millions of dollars every year, they bring in a shit ton of money.

    All the palaces, the tours, the tourism.

    I don't know the numbers exactly, but I do believe they're in the green.

    That's great.

    So maybe since like,

    I mean, this is for them to decide, but I wonder why they don't go private.

    They say like, you keep your taxpayer money.

    We'll pay for our life, but we're also going to keep all the money that we bring in.

    But then are they still royals?

    Yeah, I think.

    Then they're just like a rich family.

    Yeah, then it like downgrades them one step further.

    Right.

    But I think they're still royals, but it's like, you know, don't worry, don't pay for us.

    Right.

    I mean, they have a lot of money.

    They have a lot of money and they bring bring in a lot of money.

    And then if they didn't have to like rely on the taxpayers, they could write books, right?

    Yeah.

    They could bring in more money.

    Right.

    Then they're not like civil servants.

    No, but they could still be civil servants.

    But then it's like they're, it's like a charity.

    No, but I think like the actual term civil servant means like like a politician is a civil servant because his salary is paid for by taxpayers.

    Yeah.

    Well, they could have a salary by like, you know what I mean?

    I just, yeah.

    I wonder what that the argument is against that.

    I just think like sound up in the comments, please.

    They think it's like a step down.

    Yes.

    And it would be like one step further towards the end of the 100% monarchy, but like this is not sustainable.

    It ain't.

    Yet William and Kate and Charles and Camilla like seem okay with it.

    Yeah.

    I mean Charles like and Camilla like went through it.

    No, I think they're just like nobody cares.

    It's a matter of hiding it better.

    I think the job is really hard no matter who you are.

    Yeah.

    And there are really fun parts of it and there are really horrible parts of it.

    So it'll be really interesting when like George gets married.

    Right.

    Right.

    So

    I thought that it was confusing still.

    And I think the Oprah interview, while when it first came out, was a bombshell.

    Was a bombshell.

    And everybody, Beyonce texted her.

    I think it caused irreparable damage with the family.

    I don't know how much it changed hearts and minds.

    I think that.

    they did it.

    She said they did it because of everything that had happened that year.

    And I think she meant more so about what everyone was saying about about them that year.

    Like they left the family.

    And so she wanted to like clear the air.

    But I think it just gave more air to, you know, if you want to go and be private and live your life,

    go for it.

    But

    it's,

    it's uncouth to trash the whole family.

    Agreed.

    And the whole country and the whole system.

    No, honestly, I don't think I'm going to watch it.

    And also, I feel like I just watched it.

    And then they had this whole thing about like hate, the trolling and the hate that Megan was getting.

    And it was so confusing.

    They had this agency that like evaluated 114,000 of the tweets about Megan, like just a pool of tweets.

    70% of them were hate tweets.

    And of that 70%, they were only coming from 80 accounts, like 80 troll accounts.

    And then they said that it's all like house, like white housewives, these 80 women.

    And one of them is Samantha Markle.

    Dead.

    And it's just like, okay, so.

    Out of all the hate that Megan gets, like, it's 80 people.

    Fabulous.

    But I didn't understand what, what point they were talking about.

    Why they're sharing that.

    I think that that's good news.

    Yeah.

    And then you can like block those 80 accounts.

    And they were like troll bots.

    Right, right, right.

    Why is Megan worried about bots?

    Like, no, that's weird.

    It was really, there was like a whole section of that.

    It was really fucking weird.

    And it was like this weird

    data agency that polices like misinformation.

    I'm just like, the fuck is this?

    No, that's beyond confusing.

    Well, thank you for your thoughts.

    I appreciate you.

    And let's move on to some Christly news.

    Overall, they seem so happy.

    Yeah.

    And

    they just are home in Montecito with Megan, Harry, Megan's mom, and the kids, and the two kids and the two dogs.

    And

    it seems like that's all they've ever wanted.

    So

    I hope they're happy.

    It's what you got.

    Yeah, I hope they're happy.

    It looks like just a peaceful, idyllic, idyllic family life.

    It's a ton of.

    So I guess that's that on that.

    So there's a lot of like custody drama going on with the Christleys because Chloe's biological mom has entered the chat.

    So do you know who Chloe is?

    Okay, so the Christleys have a bunch of kids and their oldest son has a daughter.

    Her name is Chloe.

    And for the last couple of years, Todd and Julie have been raising her.

    The mother has like really never been in the picture, but now she's wanting in because Todd and Julia, Julie are going to prison.

    So prison-bound Todd Christley emphasized that his adopted daughter, oh, so they adopted her.

    His adopted daughter, Chloe's biological mother, surrendered her rights to the 10-year-old and should not regain custody.

    He said, it's ironic that her biological mother would come forward now that she has not been in her life since 2015 and Angela Johnson surrendered her parental rights in March of 2017 and we never heard from her again.

    He said that on a podcast.

    The former Christley knows best star explained that he and his wife, Julie Christley, legally adopted Chloe, so it's up to them to decide who gets custody of Chloe after they begin their collective 19-year prison sentences.

    He continued, we're not going to discuss who that's going to be because we don't owe that to the world and that's our private matter.

    At the end of the day, Chloe's family is who Chloe has been raised with.

    Her life is going to be as unaltered as it is, as it possibly can be on what Julie and I have the ability to control.

    Todd continued to go off on Johnson for legally giving up her parental rights to the child, asserting that she has no more rights to Chloe than a stranger on the street does.

    Angela Johnson literally surrendered her rights to the child.

    She did this in front of a judge.

    The judge explained to her, you understand what you're doing.

    You understand that you're surrendering the rights to your child.

    Todd recalled, adding that Johnson denied in court that anyone promised her anything financial, nor had anyone threatened her.

    Just so the record is very, very clear, Angela Johnson has no rights to Chloe.

    Her rights were terminated.

    She has been legally adopted.

    But ever since

    the sentencing came out, she now wants custody back.

    But like, who will get custody of Chloe?

    What about the dad?

    He has, he's troubled.

    Their eldest son has...

    was on the show in the beginning, then

    went MIA.

    He's definitely troubled.

    I think he struggles with like some substance abuse.

    Do you think that the Christleys could serve separately since they are parents, technically?

    I mean, technically they can, but then they'll never see each other again.

    Yeah.

    You know?

    Yeah.

    I mean, Savannah is somewhat of age.

    Chase is somewhat, somewhat of age.

    And their eldest daughter, who has children, probably sounds like the best option, but like she has a very complicated relationship with the family.

    She's like spoken out about them and then they were on good terms and then she's spoken out again.

    So she seems like the perfect person because she actually seems like she has her head screwed on straight.

    Um, but I don't know, like, what do you, what do you do with

    Chloe?

    I don't know.

    It's really sad.

    Yeah.

    Hopefully, like, someone, I mean, it sounds like her mom is stepping up, but it's not that easy.

    No, and I don't even know if I would like feel good about leaving, even it is her biological mom, but like, she literally gave her up.

    Yeah.

    How old is Chloe again?

    She is

    she's mad cute.

    She is, I think, 10.

    Damn.

    Hopefully, like one of her siblings or like half siblings, you know.

    Yeah.

    I think Chase,

    if I recall, I think maybe he's engaged.

    So like someone who's like settling down.

    Savannah is settled.

    I think there's like a decent amount of options, but they're young.

    Lindsay, the daughter, is the best option, but I don't know what her relationship is currently like because who lives the closest to the Christ, like where the Christleys live that way?

    She doesn't always go to same school and stuff.

    Yeah, I don't know.

    This is really sad.

    The Christley thing, like the more I think about it, is like so crazy.

    So it's like a really long sentence for a non-violent crime.

    Yeah.

    That's really sad.

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    Okay.

    So earlier in the week, we were talking about the crazy news that Janelle from Sister Wives left

    the family.

    Yes, we were.

    And then yesterday, Mary Brown confirms her 32-year marriage to Cody is over.

    She says he made the decision.

    It's over for Mary and Cody Brown.

    In people's exclusive look at the first Sister Wives one-on-one episode airing Sunday, Mary confirms that her 32-year 32-year marriage to Cody53 has ended.

    During her conversation with host Sukanya Krishnan, Mary watches a clip of Cody saying he doesn't consider himself married to her.

    He said, if she wanted to move on and marry another, she wouldn't get an argument with me, he tells Camera's in a confessional.

    Sukanya then asks Mary how it makes her feel to hear those words from her husband.

    She said, it just doesn't make sense to me that he would be so frustrated with Christine and be like, she made this decision.

    We didn't consult.

    We didn't talk.

    She just made the decision to leave.

    And then he says, no, I don't consider myself married to Mary.

    Like he just made the decision.

    I've never heard him say that to me.

    Christine and Cody announced their split.

    in November of 2021.

    So there's a lot of interesting things going on here.

    The first is that

    one, there's only one wife left.

    And I literally

    and I feel like every time we talk about them, I say how he's totally in love with Robin.

    And it feels like everything he's done in this last year has been to just be alone with Robin, the crazy COVID protocols, like pushing people away, pushing Mary away.

    And Mary, like he was, you know that he had to legally, Mary was his first wife.

    And I always say, whenever I'm talking about them, like she's the most desperate.

    And he was the only one who he was, she was the only one who he was legally married to.

    Like they were married in faith to the others, but you can only be married to one person in this country.

    And he divorced Mary so that he could legally marry Robin, the new one.

    So it was like, he's just like time after time treated Mary so poorly.

    Mary also went through this like weird scandal where she was like cat-fishing someone.

    Like she was a unique girlie.

    She was going through a lot.

    So after all of that, he's still the one divorcing her or like leaving her because they weren't even technically married.

    Yeah.

    And now he's alone with Robin, which is all that he wanted.

    And my question is, where do we go from here on the show?

    Sister wife?

    Maybe, I mean, it sounds to me like this man can't be happy with one woman.

    And so he's going to get sick of Robin.

    He's going to have a new hot thing.

    Yeah.

    And then the cycle begins again.

    Robin will be the new Mary.

    Robin will do.

    That's so well put.

    Also, I didn't watch, I don't watch any anymore, but this most recent season, like apparently, he was awful to her, like saying the most mean things about her in his confessionals to the other wives.

    And so I think a lot of people saw this divorce and was like, oh, good.

    She saw what he said this season and left.

    Like she still didn't leave.

    He left her.

    Oh my God.

    Like it's so

    sorry.

    It's it's pathetic,

    yeah.

    But regardless, she's out, everyone's out, divorce her.

    What's so crazy, though, is that like they're this big blended family, they have a million kids, and like them breaking up, like because they're not legally married, like all the women, like it literally takes a day.

    Like, marriages end in years because of divorce and

    divorce, right?

    And like when they liked each other.

    I don't know how you split up a house or anything like that when you're not legally married.

    And he's not legally married to any of them now, except for Robin.

    It's whoever's name the house is in.

    I bet it's in his.

    He's a prick.

    It's just, it's an interesting type of divorce when literally none of these people are actually married.

    I'm sure that's what would be on the show.

    Oh, I would like to see a show with the new ladies like re-adjusting to normal life.

    I wonder if they're going to enter into,

    like, obviously they're going to date and stuff, but do they plan on entering into polygamous marriages again?

    Like, I wonder what their POV on this experience was, like, would recommend or would not recommend?

    Depends on the man.

    Cody is the man, and I don't think anyone would ever want to be married to him ever again.

    I just can't believe, like, I started watching Sister Wives in high school, and the second I saw Robin, I knew, I knew.

    I hate to be right, you know?

    It's like the time I saw Little Mix perform, and I literally said, they're going to break up.

    It's going to be Jesse.

    It's listening to stories.

    And it's in my list of stories because I saw them perform in like a really small intimate concert.

    I was like an intern.

    And I said, I literally said it to you.

    I said, Jesse's going to be the problem and this band is going to break up.

    And that's exactly what happened.

    Sometimes I'm clairvoyant and then sometimes I'm totally off.

    Totally.

    Where's the story?

    Claudia's repeated stories there.

    Little mix.

    That's definitely one of them.

    Oh, my God.

    There are so many.

    So many there are.

    If there's so many, maybe there are none.

    Because how can you be so repetitive

    stories?

    Sorry, I'm a storyteller.

    It's what I do for a living.

    I'm a storyteller.

    Our fifth and final story is some casting news because Where the Crawdad sings star Daisy Edgar Jones has been cast to play Carol King in the adaptation of the Broadway play about Carol King called Beautiful.

    And people are like a little like upset about it.

    So Daisy Edgar Jones is going from where the crowd dad sing to singing as Carol King.

    That is a mouthful.

    The actress who's 24.

    Oh my God, I don't know why I thought she was older.

    Has been cast to play Carol King in an upcoming film adaptation of the Broadway musical Beautiful from Sony.

    Variety Reported Thursday.

    It'll be directed by Lisa Cholodenko, who made 2010's, the 2010 movie, Kids Are All Right.

    So people are upset because

    Daisy Edgar Jones is not Jewish and Carol King is like notably Jewish.

    Is she?

    I didn't know she was Jewish, but I also like don't know her.

    By the way, check the words right out of my mouth.

    Like, I believe that she's Jewish, and I believe she's like an iconic Jewish woman.

    When I tell you, I have literally no idea who she is.

    Like, there's that song, you gotta get

    from the commercials.

    Like,

    I don't know it well enough.

    No, the one that I think I know is, I think, and tell me if I'm wrong, but I think Taylor Swift performed at her Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony and sang, Will You Still Love Me

    tomorrow?

    That sounds like Carol King from what I've seen from the lame piano vibes.

    No, it's like, you gotta get on off your feet.

    That's the one.

    Okay, you know what?

    Carol King's song.

    I'll go to Spotify.

    Like, what does she sing?

    That's an amazing question.

    Maybe then.

    You've got a friend in me.

    Okay, also, where you lead.

    I think that's the one I just sang by Taylor Swift.

    Okay.

    Oh, no.

    You got to get

    on off the, or is that get on your feet?

    Will you love me tomorrow?

    That's the one that Taylor sang.

    I think she's also really famous as being a songwriter, not even a performer, because she wrote Chains, which Chains, excuse me, which is a Fleetwood Mac song.

    Got it.

    Okay, the song that I'm singing is, I feel the earth move.

    And that's from the beautiful commercials for the play.

    Yeah, and then gotta get on off the earth.

    That's from that.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    So she's definitely a legend.

    She's just not anything like...

    That we're super familiar with.

    And so even though I typically am like a Jewess, should play a Jewess, considering I did not know she was a Jewess, I can't be that mad.

    Considering she didn't know she was a Jewess, I don't fucking care about that.

    Let me, but now my thing is, do they fucking look alike?

    No.

    Well, actually, what did a young Carol King look like?

    The thing is, it's like, I want to know who is managing Daisy Edgar Jones.

    And I would like to become a client of theirs because she's undeniably talented, but I feel like she popped on the scene and she got like three times in a row, like the most sought after roles.

    She got normal people, which like the book had such a cult following.

    Then she got crawdads.

    The book had such a cult following.

    Now she got beautiful Carol King, which is definitely like a really prestigious role.

    Definitely a role a lot of people want, especially actors.

    I can see it.

    I can see it.

    Especially girls who sing.

    So I just feel like...

    Does she sing?

    Right.

    I don't know how she keeps getting these roles, but like I need her manager.

    I actually think she looks like her with like when she has a wig on.

    I'm sure she'll do a great job.

    And I also just get confused because her name is Daisy Edgar Jones and she keeps playing the characters from books, but she's not playing

    Daisy Jones in in the adaptation, correct?

    Yes.

    It's Riley.

    Keo.

    And we actually just got the first trailer for Daisy Jones in the Six.

    Did you see it?

    No, we also got a trailer for Barbie officially.

    I didn't see it.

    It just came out today, but I hate making a story a trailer.

    Yeah, no, I know.

    But Daisy Jones and the Six is like on its way.

    Yeah.

    It's a TV show, though, not a movie, correct?

    Mm-hmm.

    Yeah, we were talking about that at book club like things that have been adapted into movies like how they take so long because

    We we have it ends with us take longer we have it happened one summer oh we were talking about eliza starts a rumor at my book club because it's really the perfect just got picked up for a show just got picked up for a show on peacock which i actually think it's the perfect book for a tv show agreed um but these things take so long yeah

    reese gets them out pretty quickly though reese is a machine yeah machine

    I don't want to end the episode like it's over.

    Those are the fast five.

    I know.

    I could share some more of my thoughts about Harry and Megan because I only talked about the part where they left it.

    I just saw when I was looking at my notes for your stories that I had more notes about the show, which was that they started to say that the brothers' offices split up right before Christmas.

    Like they had a Christmas party planned and that day it turned into two parties because that day the office split.

    But why did their household split right before Christmas?

    Like what happened?

    We need context.

    Like this episode, this whole show alludes to the fact that like something must have happened with the brothers because

    they say the lie.

    It's like a tell-all where they tell nothing.

    Right.

    That's that's even emblematic of that story we wrote.

    Here's this text, but it doesn't say what the text is.

    also the weirdest thing that you're gonna find so crazy.

    So Megan was getting like a lot of really bad press and she was really struggling and her friends were really worried about her.

    So five of her friends went to People magazine and did like a whole interview tell-all about like how amazing Megan is.

    It wound up coming to bite her in the ass during the Daily Mail.

    I could have told you that.

    No, like when it came out, it was fine, whatever.

    That's like cringe.

    It was so cringe.

    I don't know if they even told her they were doing it.

    I imagine that they did because like if If she found that you can't fuck around like that, she can't fuck around like that.

    But then in the Daily Mail suit, it became a problem because in that article,

    they talked about that she wrote a letter to her dad and that just became like some sort of like press thing,

    like making it like public.

    Right, right, right.

    Oh my God.

    But I was like, these fucking friends.

    Like, how is that going to help anything?

    You know what I did wonder?

    I wondered what their relationship, and I'm curious if they mentioned it, is like now with Eugenie and Jack because I felt like they were really close.

    They never mentioned them.

    I'm curious, especially at the beginning, I feel like they really helped them.

    I'm curious too.

    And I feel like they have a lot of mutual friends and like this to do the same stuff.

    And I feel like

    Eugenie and Jack's level of like royal is exactly what Harry and Megan needed.

    And I feel like they're royals, but they also live in the real world.

    So they get invited to like all the cool stuff, but they don't have to like do a lot of the bullshit.

    And like they very much can operate like in regular society.

    And I feel like that's actually like an ideal.

    And I think like growing up, they probably felt like, you know, like ugly stepsisters.

    They were like the cousins who like didn't get to come to this and this.

    And now that they like have kids, it's like, it's so much more normal.

    It's still far from normal, but like it's more balanced.

    Yeah.

    I wonder if they can still be friends, even though like,

    you know, Eugenie is still tied to the ground.

    A work round.

    Yeah.

    No, and it's like you insulted Gran.

    You made Gran's a few last years hard.

    Tough.

    No, I think they all probably feel very defensive of Gran.

    Team Gran.

    Yeah.

    But Eugenie's like fabulous.

    I actually really like her.

    Yeah.

    Same.

    The two sisters.

    Yeah.

    What's the other one's name?

    Beatrice.

    Beatrice.

    Actually, which one do I think?

    I guess in the views, they look exactly alike.

    I think they look nothing alike.

    No, no, they're twins.

    They're literally twins.

    Except the the crazy thing about them is that their dad is Prince Andrew.

    Like we just don't talk about that, you know?

    Yeah.

    But like they didn't do it.

    No.

    100%.

    So the episode is not over.

    If you're listening to this podcast, enjoy our interview with Olivia Culpo.

    And if you're watching on YouTube, just head over to our channel and it's right underneath this video.

    Any final words for the year?

    Oh, you know what?

    Megan.

    In the documentary talks about how each year she like has a word for her year.

    Okay.

    And like one year it was truth and then it was peace.

    Okay.

    What's your word for

    23?

    I feel like this was, oh, for 23.

    Yeah.

    I thought we should give our year a word.

    Oh, no, it's like an aspirational for 23, but you could sum up 22.

    Because I would sum up 22 as growth.

    Oh, I have a good one.

    That's good.

    Because I feel like I'm actually like the person I am now is actually quite different than the person I was at the beginning of the year.

    I like that.

    Okay.

    My word for 22 would be roots.

    Roots bloom where you plant them.

    I'm putting down roots.

    I like that.

    Like physically, emotionally.

    Yeah, I love that.

    Yep.

    And then for 2023, what do we want our word to be?

    Yeah.

    What are we aspiring towards?

    What are we looking to bring in?

    That's a good question.

    It's a hard question.

    I don't know.

    I know.

    I don't know if I continued growth.

    Um, well, this has been a great year for the toast.

    We couldn't have done it without all the listeners.

    Everyone who watches on YouTube or listens as a podcast, follows us on Instagram.

    We really appreciate your continued support.

    We hope the toast has been an important part of your year, whether you just listen to it while you get ready, on your walks, on your way to work, or it's something you really look forward to when you get home.

    Whatever it is, we loved being a part of your year.

    We loved having you be a part of our year.

    This show would be absolutely nothing without you.

    We love all you guys and we hope you have an amazing break.

    Everyone, whatever days you're taking off, enjoy them, relax, find

    you deserve it.

    Be with your family.

    Have a couple cocktails.

    Just reset, rejuvenate for the new year.

    We love you.

    We love you.

    Thank you all for being toasters and for watching along with us for the great episodes, the good episodes, and the sprinkle of

    bad ones.

    I can't even think of a bad one, but some are just less good than others, you know?

    So for the last time.

    I really can't think of a bad one, but I'm sure you guys can.

    So for the last time this year.

    Oh, no.

    Strey so much.

    Do it.

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    Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.

    We'll see you next year.

    See you in a year.

    Goodbye, Strice.

    Goodbye.

    Goodbibity.

    Bye.

    And

    that's a rat toast 2022.

    We did it.

    Congratulations, class of 2022.

    We did it.

    Streisand, Streisand.

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    I would have noticed a gold wedding band, Streisand.

    I'd rather you hate me than not understand.

    Oh, streising.

    Okay, we're done.

    We're done.

    And you know what?

    You're done.

    Welcome back to the toast, the final episode of the year, being made even more special as if it wasn't special enough.

    We are joined by honestly someone who's had such an impact on this show.

    You recognize me?

    It is the one, the only Olivia Culpo.

    Welcome to the show, Olivia.

    Oh my gosh, thank you guys.

    First of all, I can't believe that I've had an impact on this show.

    I told everybody that I was doing this and they were peeing their pants.

    They are, everybody adores you guys.

    So thank you for having me.

    And I adore you, obviously, personally, but.

    No, but we're so excited.

    I can't believe we haven't had you on the show yet, but I do feel like now is the perfect time.

    You have so much going on.

    We have spoken about your new show a lot here at the Toast because I'm obsessed with it.

    And I don't just say that like to be up your butt and stuff.

    Like I think it's such a wonderful, joyful, positive show that the world needs more of.

    And I think that you and your sisters are such great role models as individuals, but also like your sisterly bond.

    We are obsessed with sisters and being sisters and watching you and yours.

    I just, I feel like I know what your answer is going to be because I work with my sisters, but what is it like working with your sisters in such an official capacity now?

    It's, oh my gosh, I can't imagine you guys.

    You've been doing it for so much longer.

    It's

    really hard.

    Like, it's hard.

    It's equal parts hard, but equal parts rewarding.

    Obviously, there's no love that you have with, you know, anybody else in the world that's like the love you have for your sister.

    You would die for them, but equal parts, you're going to call them out on every single piece of bullshit that they throw your way.

    So, yeah, it's like, it really is both bad and good.

    And how are they, like, this is not so new for you.

    Like, you've been around the block, you've been around for a long time.

    And I feel like being on TV is a level up.

    And for your sisters, I feel like it's much more of a jump.

    How are they dealing with it?

    Because people can be like, you know, when you open up your lives, you're opening yourself up to like some really awful people saying awful things about you and your sisters.

    How are they dealing with it?

    I think they're they're good at it, honestly.

    They're good at being the bullshit.

    I think that it's because we're insulated by each other in a lot of ways, because it's not even just us.

    We also have my two brothers and my parents.

    Like, we're one of five, so there's, they, they help as well.

    Like, there's really no rock bottom when you know at least you're gonna have each other at the end.

    So, when you are dealing with the bullshit, when people are being horrible because they feel horrible themselves,

    you just have to remember and keep that in mind.

    And we help each other.

    And you guys know because you face it too, you've been doing this for so long.

    It's like some days you wake up and you're and you can take on the world and other days you wake up and somebody can tell you that like you have a dead end on your hair and you like want to cry you know so it really depends on the day i know so the three of us and i'm sure it's the same with you guys like every day somebody's having a good day or a bad day and the people the person having a good day will lift up the others and It really is like that, this weird cycle of I'll call my sister and I'll be in a really bad place about some things that I'm reading or doing or not getting and she'll be in a really good place and she'll remind me of the truth.

    And then other times she'll be in the dark and I'll remind her of the truth, which is just that, you know, you have to just be happy to be here

    and doing what you have set out to do.

    And like, it's like the man in the arena quote.

    I have it on the back of my phone, but the Theodore Roosevelt.

    quote, but also in general, it's like if you can't handle the heat, you have to get out in the kitchen and you have to remember that at at the end of the day, it's a privilege to be able to take chances in the way that we are in any capacity.

    And you should just be proud of that and really try to think about that.

    And the haters are going to hate no matter what.

    That's a really good way of looking at it.

    You have had such an amazing career.

    I feel like sometimes we have to remind ourselves that you came from Miss USA to start.

    And then you've been an influencer for so many years and an actress.

    And even though you, for the last few years, have been sharing your life on Instagram.

    And I feel like we get to know you so well.

    Now being on a reality show, you are sharing so much more.

    How has that transition been for you to open up yourself like that?

    It's been challenging, but mostly challenging because I have a lot of, well, for the people in my life who are not willing, who don't want to be on a reality show, like my boyfriend, for example, like things like that have been challenging because I don't want to exploit the privacy of people that I care about

    when I'm sharing my point of view.

    So just walking that very fine line.

    But as far as myself, I am an open book and I think this has been an opportunity that has scared me because of the vulnerability involved in it and having to take everything up a level in the in the storytelling of my life but I like that I actually feel like I've always been an open book in that way and I do I have to say I enjoy it it's scary We enjoy it too.

    And I feel like when you think about like your favorite influencer and thinking about them being on a reality show, oftentimes it would wind up being disappointing.

    But your life and your family life, and I feel like your interior life too, it's just, it's not just entertaining, but it's really like, I don't know how to describe it, other than like joyful and real.

    Like that's how real sisters are with each other.

    Like you guys are so hardworking, but you also know how to have fun and like enjoy all of the things that you've earned for yourselves.

    Thanks.

    I feel like that's a very, that's a very, very, very nice compliment.

    And where I came from is so different from my life now.

    I mean, I think for, I'm sure for everyone it is, right?

    But it's, um, it's cool to be able to share people.

    It's cool to be able to share that with people, especially my parents.

    They're just so out of this world.

    They're so sweet.

    They're really sweet.

    I love when they're on the show.

    They give like really great advice and also they offer such a great perspective because it's like this really grounding, these two really grounding people who like come into your LA world and kind of you realize how it's so dissimilar to the real world for some people.

    But I think having them there is, it's a perfect formula.

    I know, it's true.

    They really are, they really are grounding.

    They will humble you very quickly.

    They always have a way of reframing everything to make you feel like, oh yeah, this really isn't a big deal.

    Like my problems are not as big as I think they are.

    And

    it's helpful.

    It is.

    Yeah.

    Well, I'm really glad you brought up your boyfriend because I don't know if you know like a fun fact about the toast is that we fully support the 49ers.

    And that's because Kyle Juszczek and his wife are toasters and we just like love to see toasters out on the field doing their thing and now that your man's placed for the 49ers and like you're spending a lot of time in San Fran it's just it's so much better like it's fabulous and I want to know like what your thoughts are on San Fran I know it's easier for you to get there now from LA yeah I love that you use the word fabulous football is fabulous

    it is

    I have to say I love it I love the 49ers I love the bang bang niner gang

    it's fun we had a team that's winning.

    I have to say.

    I mean, it's not true.

    Yeah.

    Winning is better than losing, and they've been doing that lately.

    So I'm so grateful.

    I'm so, so happy.

    And the flight, the flight is so much easier for me.

    The weather's easier.

    Everything about it is easier.

    People lately have been like, you look so like rested and something's different about you.

    It's like, oh yeah, because I'm not getting on a five and a half hour flight every week to go to Charlotte.

    That was, I lit, that truly took years off my life.

    Like, I had to to do that for three years.

    I love Charlotte dearly, and I love everybody there so much, but that five and a half hours, it's so bad.

    That's love.

    I know.

    That's love.

    When you get there, your whole day is gone.

    Like, I would leave at eight and I would get there at like four because the time change.

    Yeah, because when you fly west to east, it sucks.

    You like lose your whole day.

    You lose the whole day.

    I would leave my house when it's dark out and I would get there when it's dark.

    So that

    sucked.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    New beginnings.

    Do you feel like the reception to the show and like how

    well everyone is like loving it is going to make some of the more reticent people in your life or even like maybe people that you work with feel more comfortable joining the show?

    I feel like we always hear that about like Real Housewives, how like in the beginning they weren't allowed to film here or there.

    But then like once you see how much support it has and how beloved it is, now like everybody wants in on it.

    I know.

    That's so true.

    I absolutely think so.

    I think my boyfriend's mom will want to be on it.

    That would be really funny.

    My boyfriend will will your content with her is so premium oh my god one of the craziest things about you is that you quarantined with your boyfriend's family for like a hundred days right with and with your sister and that you guys didn't and that there wasn't a murder and i think that's amazing huge

    there wasn't a murder that was an interesting time to be honest with you there was a lot of uh

    There was a lot of surviving.

    Not driving.

    But no, I love them.

    We got so close.

    I feel like if you can go through a pandemic with someone, you can get through anything.

    Like going to the grocery store and feeling like, okay, that's it.

    I'm going to die now.

    Like literally, remember going out and just being like, this is really fucking scary.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    No, your content with your boyfriend's mom is so premium.

    And I feel like not a lot of people have that.

    So it's really nice.

    Oh, thanks.

    Yes.

    She's a character.

    I feel like she would be the star of the show.

    So I would love to see her.

    I would love

    to see more of Christian.

    I think that maybe,

    I agree.

    Everybody was really scared scared at the beginning when this show was about to come out.

    And I was so grateful that they actually had,

    they were pleasantly surprised.

    That doesn't always happen.

    And I don't see the episodes before they air.

    So I have no idea what's going to get out there and how it's going to be portrayed.

    And they can spin things in a bunch of different ways.

    So anyway, it was overall a good experience.

    And I definitely think that if there are enough, maybe I can even get, you know, some of the other 49ers on the show, imagine.

    I feel like, do you know Kristen Juice check?

    I feel like she would love it.

    I, maybe.

    She would love it.

    Right?

    I think so.

    The toast brings people together.

    So we could arrange it, honestly.

    Really?

    Oh, 100%.

    But we would obviously have to be there.

    Like, we would want to be on the show, too.

    You know?

    Yeah.

    Like, we arranged this mission.

    People would share their brand.

    Wait, can I ask you a question, like, more in general about your career?

    I feel like it's been so interesting to follow.

    Like Jackie said, I feel like a lot of people don't even remember that you really got your start in your platform from the pageant circuit.

    And then you got more into influencing and now Reality Star.

    And I feel like I remember a shift in your content a few years ago where you were really actively including your sisters in your content.

    And of course, we loved it because we found it so relatable.

    And I'm curious if that was like a conscious decision for you.

    Or it was just like naturally, like, I'm with my sisters, so I might as well make them film with me.

    After the question.

    Right.

    Like, oh, I should probably include them.

    My extras in the back.

    I'm just kidding.

    Literally.

    It was 100%

    organic.

    So my older sister, Aurora, she actually was private until like three or four years ago.

    So at that point, before that point, there was actually a lot of tension between us because she thought that what I was doing was face senseless and vain and vapid.

    And she was going through this whole like yogi guru, I don't know, this weird Buddha face.

    Yeah, you know, like one of those.

    And she was like, my sister only wears crop-tops and she's so internet.

    All she does is take pictures.

    It's like, okay, well, anyway, anyway, she gets it now.

    It's not just taking pictures.

    It's, you know, building a relationship with people.

    And you guys understand that situation.

    But

    so I ended up, when she got the stick out of her ass, I started doing more content around her.

    And like, I would just be more comfortable.

    So since she was in the content.

    And then with my younger sister, she was in college not that long ago.

    So I was living in LA.

    She was living in in Boston at college.

    And then when she finally got out of college, she moved in with me.

    So that was around the same time.

    So it all kind of happened very organically because we've always been equally close.

    We've always been, I've always considered them to be like my best friends in the world.

    But I think, I guess in some ways, Instagram has brought us together because we were all having so much fun sharing with people.

    Because if one of them were like, I don't want to be on your Instagram, then I don't know if, you know, this obviously wouldn't have happened the way that it did.

    But we ended ended up having a ton of fun together and just being I don't know stupid

    I kind of would have loved to see the show though like back when Aurora you said your words not mine had the stick up her ass like I think that would have been hilarious I know like every time I would go over to be like oh my god you're in another crop top why are you in another crop and now all she wears is crop top that's one example of when she has the stick up her ass era which She's very, she might not admit it, but she will.

    She should.

    Not her launching a war on crop tops, even though I fully support that movement.

    I'm so over crop tops.

    Like, some of us have big tits.

    We can't just wear crop tops, you know?

    Right, right.

    Like, you have a perfect ass and you're wearing a crop top.

    Get out of here.

    Right.

    I don't have a perfect ass, by the way, though.

    Some of us have jugs.

    Like, we can't just be walking around in a bra, you know?

    Kind of funny.

    The show is really so good.

    I feel like this has been like a great era for you.

    And it's just nice to see, like, we've met you.

    Actually, we have like a running joke on the toast the first time we met you what year was it Jackie at Coachella it was coachella it was our first time maybe so maybe that was 2017 Claude and we met at the Porter Potties right we did

    classic us so on brand and we obviously were like loved your Instagram and we loved you and you came over and said hi and we could we walked away and we were like Jackie like she came up to you like really she recognized you recognize you and we just kept saying it on the show and now it's like a running joke on the show.

    You recognize me?

    Oh, my God.

    And it started with you.

    That's

    started with you.

    I remember that day.

    I remember the shirt I was wearing.

    That's so weird.

    Coachella!

    I remember the shirt I was wearing, too.

    Are you still on the Coachella train?

    Are you over it?

    Honestly, I never really fully got on the train, but I...

    Sure.

    It gives me a lot of anxiety.

    I like to do puzzles like at my house.

    I'm that kind of a person.

    I love it.

    And, you know, I know I'm like a, I am such a homebody, but I,

    when I'm there, I have fun, but it's like the leading up to it where I just, I fear a lot.

    Like I fear the hangovers, I fear the walking, I fear the

    little hitchhiking that I'll have to do to leave.

    The, you know, like you just never know.

    But I don't know.

    I like it.

    I like it.

    I'm trying to.

    to like it more so that I can appear and feel cooler.

    It's also like an important part of your job.

    Yeah.

    And I have to say I brought my sisters this last year and it was the best coachelle I've ever had.

    So that is also the other part of having them around that I really like.

    It's like a security blanket.

    I like having them with me wherever I go.

    And that's another reason why we did the show together.

    I love being with them.

    It's my favorite.

    They're my favorite people to be with.

    Besides my dog.

    We actually just had that conversation on the toast yesterday talking about how like we have the privilege of like going to like events and stuff and our plus ones being other influencers who are also our sisters.

    And it almost feels like you cheat the system when you don't have to go to those events alone and like,

    like be so, those events can be so awkward when everyone's there by themselves and you're just like, hey, I'm Claudia.

    Like it's painful.

    So being able to have a built-in plus one who's also very much like in the scene and in the industry is like, I feel like I'm cheating.

    I know, we are kind of cheating.

    And, but why?

    I know.

    I don't know.

    I've gone to so many events that have like ruined events for me because people have been rude.

    And I just, and then you and then you're scared.

    You're scared.

    They ruined it.

    so maybe yeah no it's like intimidating

    totally yeah that's a good takeaway in general

    um and i think the the most relatable um storyline on the show is the stealing of clothing oh my god oh yeah

    like like we two are as sisters we actually don't fight We really don't fight for sisters.

    Like, it's crazy.

    That's the only thing that like gets us so fired up.

    It's so crazy.

    What is it about stealing clothes?

    For me, I would let them borrow anything.

    It's the, first of all, ask.

    Of course, of course.

    They don't ask.

    And then also they,

    or if they wear something before I've worn it, because that's, I have to wear it.

    So like you have to wear it.

    It was insane.

    Oh, my God.

    She's done the craziest shit.

    She's photoshopped photos so that I don't know that it's my bag.

    That was crazy.

    She took a picture of Olivia's bag and she photoshopped it, but like it's clear that she got like it was

    not

    the hustle, the creativity.

    She's brazen.

    She's creative.

    Well, you know what?

    The thing is, if she texted me, I would have absolutely let her wear it.

    Of course.

    The lack of confrontations.

    Anybody listening who's like extremely non-confrontational would probably go that route, but you could just send a text.

    Yeah.

    You could.

    No, why?

    Why would you?

    She's such a little sister.

    She actually reminds me of our little sister so much.

    And one thing I noticed on the show is: I feel like when she's with you guys, she's like in little sister mode.

    And then when you see her in her scenes, like on her own and with her boyfriend, like she really is a different person.

    And I feel like that's how I would describe our little sister.

    Like with us, she's just like constantly like getting picked on.

    And then she goes out into the world.

    And it's like, who's that?

    Yes.

    So true.

    True.

    And then you feel bad because you feel like, oh, they don't want to be with me right now.

    Maybe that's because I am.

    am stifling.

    I'm stifling them.

    That's exactly it.

    That's exactly it.

    Truly.

    I know.

    I've noticed that too.

    And I do feel bad about that.

    But I agree.

    I feel like as somebody that's just her sister watching her life, it is very interesting.

    And she's in the thick of it.

    It's like the ugly part where she doesn't know what she's doing and why she's doing it.

    And she hasn't figured out.

    She hasn't figured out her confidence is not there yet.

    You know, that takes so much time.

    And also, she's doing so many new things.

    so I feel like I'm really excited to see where this all how this all irons out for her because I know it's gonna be really cool to watch and I'm gonna be proud of her and to have it all on camera is cool because other people will be able to see a little bit of themselves and it you're right it is such a little sister thing

    she's the snitch she's the snitch yeah we call our little sister the snitch and she's not that little either she's like 26.

    yeah every time we talk about her people think we're talking about like an eight-year-old um and then we like show them a picture they're like that's literally a 25 year old woman that's a grown-ass woman.

    Well, they're Bratty, like, the little sisters are Bratty, right?

    Yeah, and by the way, Olivia, we had Emma Chamberlain on our show, and Margo, our little sister, loves Emma Chamberlain.

    So, when we wrapped the interview, we were like, Emma, like, our little sister is obsessed with you.

    Like, do you mind just like if she pops on the Zoom and says hi?

    And Emma was like, Of course.

    And she was actually expecting like a toddler to come out the way we were talking about her.

    And it's like Margo, who's at the time she was like 24, she was like wearing like a blazer.

    And she's like,

    She's taller than both of us.

    That's so funny.

    I love to meet her.

    You do.

    She's so funny.

    Literally, she's a giant.

    She's a perfect body.

    Compared to us.

    So, congrats on the show.

    It's so good.

    We love to see just like you thriving out there.

    We can't wait for season two.

    And thank you for coming on the show.

    So this is actually like a huge deal for us, like a real, feel full circle moment.

    Totally.

    They say don't podcast with your heroes, but they're lying.

    They do say that.

    They never met Olivia Culpo.

    Ever.

    I'm so proud of you guys being able to watch where, how big you've blown this thing up.

    I mean, that made no sense, but you've blown this shit up.

    You're standing there.

    We got

    the beginning.

    So I'm very, very proud of you guys.

    I love your podcast.

    I don't understand how you talk so fast, both of you.

    I know.

    But you, like, it's great.

    It's something we're actively working on.

    But the thing is, if we talked any slower, the episodes would be two and a half hours instead of one and a half.

    No, I'm genuinely, I love how fast you guys talk.

    It's a superpower.

    Well, the good thing about podcasting is that you can make your speed like half, you could double it.

    So there's something for everyone.

    Yeah, if it's really a problem.

    I literally love it.

    It like gets me excited and it wakes me up.

    I mean, it's more information in a smaller amount of time.

    Who doesn't want to do it?

    That's true.

    Right.

    So double.

    That's what we're trying to do.

    Sorry, we're efficient.

    We're efficient.

    Like, sue us.

    Yeah.

    Thank you again so much for coming on.

    Everyone, check out the Copo Sisters show.

    It's so good.

    It's on TLC.

    And thank you so much for being here.

    It's a pleasure.

    Thank you.

    Hi, everyone.

    This is our final episode.

    Wait, Olivia, before we let you go, our final episode of the year, we are going to have you make a toast with us.

    What are you toasting to in the new year?

    Oh my gosh, I have to think about it.

    I have a wish jar that I usually write thinking and put it.

    I actually,

    I really want to work on

    not bad mouthing.

    Like, I'm actually, all my friends are like, you never talk shit about anybody.

    But I want to be even better.

    I don't want to have any bad thoughts about anything and anyone.

    I just want to, I want to minimize my negativity.

    Could never be me, but I wish you the best of luck.

    And that sounds amazing.

    And you're better than all of us, but we already knew that.

    Thank you guys for an amazing year.

    We love you and we will see you in 2023.

    We'll see you next year.

    Bye.

    Bye.