Opposite Day: Wednesday, December 14th, 2022

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    Good morning, Millennials.

    Welcome back to the toast.

    Happy hump day.

    It is Wednesday, a glorious day, a cause of celebration here at the morning.

    Oh, at the toast.

    Hope everyone's having a fabulous day.

    Hey, Jex.

    Hey, Eddie.

    I'm dirt good.

    I woke up today feeling better than yesterday.

    God bless.

    Hallelujah.

    Hallelujah.

    Hallelujah.

    Jackie,

    isn't that all we could really ask for, you know, waking up today?

    better than the day before?

    It's all we can hope for.

    So I'm hoping that I've turned a corner on this sickness.

    I hope I can enjoy the reels of today's show without watching them and feeling like I'm about to sneeze.

    Yeah, no, you were definitely giving off that nasally vibe yesterday, but you know what?

    Nobody left any mean comments.

    So that's nice.

    I feel like unless you're sick, it wouldn't trigger you.

    But for me, like I couldn't watch because it was, it was like signaling to my sickness, it's time to sneeze.

    Jackie, I'm surprised you haven't made a comment about how stunning I look.

    Yeah, what do you have going on today that you're all dressed up?

    I am going to a rare beauty event where I think I'm going to be keeping an eye out for Selena.

    You got to keep an eye out for Selena.

    And I'm pretty sure it's like a small event.

    Like, I think I might be able to get a photo with our girl Selena and like maybe make a TikTok or something.

    And so, do you think I can ask her like to say keeping an eye out for Selena?

    Or do you think that's like a line she doesn't fuck with?

    I don't want to.

    I feel like Selena has sensitivities to certain things and I wouldn't go there.

    Okay, like obviously it like is a Justin thing, but now it's like a cultural thing and I know you're right.

    I should just avoid it.

    I don't want to make her uncomfortable.

    You just never know.

    You don't know what her relationship is like with Nikki Minaj.

    You don't know how she feels about that name in general.

    Like I just feel like she has stuff that bothers her and you don't know what it is.

    Yeah, no, you're right.

    It's best to avoid.

    But you can like do a TikTok on your own, like behind her back, like keeping an eye out for Selena.

    Yeah, no, I'm just going to, I'm definitely going to do it on my own, but I don't want to trigger her.

    You're totally right.

    So, you're just gonna go there.

    Is it a lunch?

    Is it a like a show?

    I have no idea.

    Thankfully, Counselor, it's like very small, so they were like no plus ones.

    And I was like, damn.

    And then I heard Counselor was also invited.

    I was like, thank God.

    And I just feel like it's actually not fair to the other girlies who have to show up alone, knowing like I have my sister.

    Like, it's actually not fair.

    I know, but some of those other girlies like have influencer friends who will be there and like you don't.

    So

    you have influencer friends.

    You have influencer friends but they're not they're not the rare beauty types

    I wouldn't say I think I think I'll actually well you know I'm actually kind of nervous like I don't love influencer events I don't go to them often but like this one is obviously premium and I didn't have anything else going on today so I'm gonna go and I'll definitely feel old even though me and Selena are the same age so we're just like you know you're younger than her

    Oh not me not being the oldest person in the room thank God yeah I think Selena is my age

    Yeah, no, Selena's definitely like a year or two older than me.

    She's in the 92 crew.

    Ooh, it's a good crew.

    Miley, Nick Jonas.

    So true.

    92 for life.

    So that's why it looks stunning and why I'm repeating an outfit I wore this weekend.

    It's like, if it works,

    it works, you know?

    It's really cute.

    I might actually get it and copy you.

    You know who it is?

    Someone we've actually had on this podcast, Norma Kamale.

    I literally, like, actually thought about this yesterday and hadn't thought about it in so long.

    Like, that was such a cool guest that we had.

    I know.

    And like we were online.

    She knows how to dress how to dress a woman.

    And if you're looking for some new clothes that are so versatile, that look nice, but are also comfortable.

    Like they're perfect work clothes.

    They're day to night clothes.

    They're obviously meeting Selena outfits.

    Check out Norma Kamali.

    No, and you're right.

    She like definitely knows how to like fit clothing on like a real body.

    Like I appreciate that.

    I've worn her stuff many times at different sizes.

    Yeah, me too.

    I wore her stuff when I was pregnant.

    She has like that one dress.

    She has two dresses that are similar.

    One is one-sleeved, one is long-sleeve.

    And it's great for a bridesmaid.

    It's also great for a pregnant bridesmaid.

    I have the long-sleeve one.

    She just has great stuff.

    And we had her on the podcast.

    And that's like why we're not like other podcasts.

    Not at all.

    N-lop.

    N-lop tour.

    We should go on an N-Lop tour.

    By the way, don't tease the people because you know I'll do it.

    It's all about you.

    I know, but I feel like, would you rather go on a solo tour or a podcast tour?

    Well,

    the only benefit of going on a solo tour is I don't have to split the money with you.

    Right.

    But you don't know like how harrowing it is to like be on stage by yourself and just be doing everything by yourself.

    I think like if we went on a podcast tour like you and I, first of all, it would be so it would be genuine fun.

    Yeah.

    And I wouldn't have like the pit of like, oh my God, because us podcasting, that's in my bones.

    Like I wouldn't even have to prepare.

    I would just get up there and just like make some shit up, you know?

    Yeah.

    But we do here every day.

    It would be right.

    It would be so fun.

    We'd have to make counselor come.

    She would open for us.

    She would open for us.

    And what would she do?

    I think she would give them all a stern talking too.

    It would be like QA, like advice, and she would just yell at you the whole time.

    And you'd leave in tears, but you'd be better off for it.

    You'd be glad to have had that time with counselor.

    And sometimes, like, the counselor is going to tell you the things you need to hear that nobody else in your life is going to tell you.

    That's what counselors do.

    Let me tell you how today's episode is going to be so critical.

    Today, it's not April Fools.

    It's not opposite day, but the toast is topsy-turvy today.

    Yeah.

    And

    you're just not ready for it.

    So Jackie and I have decided we're going to try it out for today.

    I think we're going to like it, but if we don't, we'll go back to the way that it is.

    We're going to switch it up.

    You know, I'm always doing the ads, reading Dear Toasters, Unburden Yourselves, et cetera.

    And Jackie reads the stories.

    And Jackie, I feel like you're like gotten fatigued with reading the stories.

    And I've definitely gotten fatigued with reading the ads.

    No, it's not so much that I've gotten fatigued reading the stories.

    It's we just get so many complaints like these stories stink.

    And I feel like I always ask you if you want stories that you want to contribute, but maybe like we just need a fresh perspective.

    Like

    you choose the stories and I know that you get fatigued reading the ads and like the few times I've had to do them in your stead, like I have the greatest time.

    The best time.

    I think it's so fun.

    So we were like, I feel like that will bring a freshness to the show if you're choosing the stories and like.

    you know, a new broom sweeps clean.

    And I'm doing the ads and reading Dear Toasters.

    I didn't realize it was Wednesday, so I I have a lot of reading to do, but that's fine.

    So it's a big day.

    Wednesday, we're obviously going to do Dear Toasters at the end of the episode.

    I have stories.

    Also, I chose a story about the Real Housewives of Miami, so we can talk a little bit.

    I watched, oh, I'm not.

    So I watched all of you caught up and I have thought, just really one thought that sums up the season.

    And our story is about Lisa, so I feel like that's the thought you probably have, right?

    Sort of.

    It's just about the season.

    How actually I love the Real Housewives of Miami, and I'm sure the season will be good on the back of of Lisa's divorce, but it's not a good season so far.

    Like, I'm

    okay.

    Cheers.

    Well, we will get your hot takes in our, I think it's our third story about Lisa Hoxha.

    And also like sipping out with a man of Lisa and Larsa beefing, like cuts me to my core.

    Okay, then you're going to love the story.

    Okay.

    Okay.

    Just trust and believe.

    Trust and believe.

    I'm trusting and I'm believing and I'm all caught up.

    So I'm really

    some very sad news.

    I'm sure everybody saw this morning.

    So we'll talk about that.

    And you guys just let us know.

    Like, how do you like the opposite day vibes?

    Because I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I can do it.

    I'm not looking for a permanent switch up, but maybe till the end of the year, maybe it's like a once-a-week thing, just like a fun way to keep the show fresh.

    That's the thing.

    Like, we're fresh.

    And we're always looking for ways to become fresher.

    I'm constantly seeking out freshness in my everyday life.

    Fresh yourself.

    Fresh yourself.

    Anyways, we could jump right in, even though a thing about you doing the stories is like you like to like give all the stories away before we start.

    I see.

    And I already know two out of five already.

    Oh, wow.

    Okay.

    See, you might call it giving away, but what I would call it is just, you know, getting everyone's, what do you call it?

    Like dipping your toe in the water.

    A taste.

    Giving them a taste.

    A taste.

    You know, so you know, it's not like a big surprise what's coming.

    But maybe you're right.

    I did just kind of spoil the whole episode.

    Should we just start over?

    No, no, no.

    But also, it's so weird for me to go into an episode like totally blind.

    I don't know what we're talking about.

    I'm not, I feel unprepared.

    I feel like I didn't do my homework is how I feel.

    But that's why you have to read the stories and explain it to me.

    No, and now I'm putting myself in an extremely vulnerable position after five years of you reading the stories and me endlessly mocking your pronunciation.

    I have to be.

    perfect.

    Yep.

    And the beauty of reading the ads is no one can mock your pronunciation for reading because like we have to be serious.

    We're doing our job.

    We're doing an ad.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    No, so I'm definitely going to be spending my nights like doing annunciation classes and like, what's it called?

    Diction.

    Dialect.

    Yeah.

    Diction classes, because I will not give you the opportunity to mock me.

    Yeah.

    Well, I'm really excited to see what you have cooked up for us today.

    Yeah, I love your take on the stories.

    It wasn't, you know, a bounty, but it wasn't like a desert day.

    There wasn't so many stories to choose from, but there also wasn't, you know, nothing.

    Okay.

    I have no idea what it's going to be.

    It's kind of crazy.

    Kind of crazy.

    So I guess we should jump in so you can head over to Selena's.

    We are the that TikTok sound.

    Crazy.

    Crazy girls.

    That's literally us today.

    No, what we're doing today is so wild.

    So I'll just say that.

    Guys, don't call the police.

    Don't go, don't call the police.

    Like, I know we're being crazy, but it's okay.

    It's okay.

    It's the end of the year.

    Like, crazy things happen.

    Like, this is our holiday party.

    You know, we're drunk in the workplace.

    I'm drinking liquid death.

    I'm literally drunk.

    We did say that this final week of episodes before the end of the year is going to be our most unhinged yet.

    And you know what?

    Sorry, we keep our promises.

    Sorry.

    You hate to see it.

    You hate to see girls living up to their word.

    You really do.

    All right.

    Well,

    I'm nervous, but are you ready?

    I'm ready.

    Without further ado, do to do.

    Where are you?

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    Here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

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    Okay, so our first story is really, really sad.

    I feel like the news broke like 20 minutes ago and everyone is talking about it because it's so shocking.

    DJ Steven Twitch boss, Ellen's DJ, is dead at 40 by suicide.

    So Steven, also known as Twitch boss, the famed DJ on the Ellen DeGeneres talk show, is dead and TMZ has learned it appears to be a suicide.

    Law enforcement sources tell us that Steven's wife, Allison Holker, ran into an LA PD station on Tuesday and she was frantic because she said Stephen had left home without his car, which is something that was not like him at all.

    We're told a short time later, police got a call to a shooting at an LA hotel and they found Stephen there, dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    Holker tells people that Stephen lit up every room he stepped into.

    He valued family, he valued friends and community, above all else.

    He was leading with love and light, and that was everything to him.

    He was the backbone backbone of our family, the best husband and father, and an inspiration to his fans.

    She continues, Stephen, we love you.

    We miss you.

    And I will always save the last dance for you.

    Everyone knows Steven.

    He was DJing on the Ellen Show since 2014.

    Up until her show ending in 2020, he got his big break in show biz on So You Think You Can Dance.

    He came as runner-up and him and his wife hosted several reality shows together.

    They got married in 2013.

    They had just celebrated their nine-year anniversary on Saturday.

    They had three kids and Stephen was 40 years old.

    Rest in peace.

    Oh my God, I have like chills.

    This is like the saddest story.

    Yeah.

    Especially because I know you don't like keep up with TikTok, but he had like,

    honestly, I think he was bigger on TikTok than he was in his TV career with Ellen.

    Like he, him and his wife, I think he has like 5 million followers.

    His wife has 2 million.

    They have like a family account.

    They're always making content that she dances to.

    So it's like dancing content with his wife, with his kids, like this really cute.

    Like honestly, picture perfect life.

    And it's just, this is such a testament to one,

    nothing is what it seems on social media.

    And it's so important to remember that.

    And two, like the very real mental health crisis going on in the country.

    And honestly, it reminds me of what you were saying when we were talking about Selena's documentary.

    I just feel like for so long now, we've been talking about mental health.

    Like, we're just talking about it.

    I don't feel like in any real way we're making like a positive impact or like really providing like helpful resources.

    I just feel like every, even at the bottom of this TMZ article, it's like if you or someone you know is struggling, it all feels like very surface.

    Yeah.

    I feel like there's not a lot of tangible

    things that we know how to do to help people aside from like talking about it, but like how do we improve the situation?

    I don't, I've not seen it being improved like in the country.

    This makes me, this is heartbreaking.

    Like,

    I know.

    Three kids.

    I, I,

    I don't have the words.

    No, it's really upsetting.

    And I feel like so many people

    were such such big fans of his.

    Like, I feel like he has like a real community that's being impacted by this.

    And, like,

    obviously, so many people, I feel like, know him from Ellen, but so many people, like, love him from his social.

    Like, him and his wife really shared a lot of like their life and their house and their kids.

    And I think social media is such a contributor to negative mental health.

    And I just feel really sad by this.

    And I feel like everyone is so shocked

    because, like, his whole brand is positive.

    Let's just get up and dance.

    Like it's get out, get healthy, get exercise, like go get out there.

    And

    you just really never know what someone's going through.

    Yeah.

    I just, I hope that soon, like I feel like if someone's in this position, not even the person who's going through it, but like the people around them, their family, their wives.

    Like, I wish that there was,

    we knew what we could do to help people, you know, and also like.

    what is causing so much of this pain that people are suffering from because it's more than ever.

    So there must be some sort of catalyst.

    And maybe it is social media.

    And the bigger you are on social media, even though it can be such a positive in your life and give you job opportunities and all of the, you know, ways to connect with people, like if it's such a negative influence and there's something that should be done because like this is horrible.

    No, and I actually was just watching the 60 Minutes segment about TikTok and it said they like surveyed

    like

    young people in this country and asked them what they want to be when they grow up.

    And the most popular answer was a social media influencer.

    Our priorities are out of

    well the the um

    the 60 minutes segment I was watching was all about um tick tock and how like

    you you're always saying this how like in China right now they took a survey what a young kids want to be and they want to the most popular answer was like an astronaut because TikTok in China is like very educational and you're you're limited into how much time you can spend on it.

    It was a good segment.

    It was like, where did I see it?

    Oh, on Instagram, Moshe.

    Literally, oh man, not me literally being the problem.

    Yeah, no, but I mean, I guess that's you do get good information and good things out of TikTok, but I think it's like the bigger picture of how much time is being spent on it, how much you're invested in other people's lives.

    Not you, but one, especially someone who's impressible.

    Like you are your own person.

    I try all the time.

    It's hard to move you into doing or feeling any other way than the way I do it.

    Your your stubbornness might help you in the battle against tick tock no but i also do think about how like yeah i always joke like that we're old and stuff but i feel so grateful that we didn't start getting like really active on social media until like late in high school when like you're

    not fully formed but you're much less

    impressionable than like a middle schooler, you know, and like now kids in the fifth grade are on Snapchat.

    Yes, but also really active on social media was so different in high school than it is now.

    For us, that meant we we came home from school and we logged on to Facebook.

    Like for the kids now, it means in school all day, every day, they're battling against this addiction to their phone.

    And it's right there in their pocket.

    Like I remember when we were in high school, like I used to spend a lot of time on Facebook and I would be like, oh, I feel like I spend like a lot of time on Facebook.

    I should go like practice the piano or something.

    Like this can't be good.

    No, but also the time we were spending on Facebook was like engaging with people we actually knew.

    Nobody was putting up like filtered photos.

    We were putting up like blurry mobile uploads.

    Like I don't think the level of toxicity was even comparable to what it is now.

    Like there wasn't this like beauty standard.

    It was really just a way of keeping in touch with like your friends from camp.

    Yes.

    It was much less harmless, but I do think this idea of being invested in your online self and how the world sees you is veering towards where we are now.

    But I think one of the biggest things is we were talking to and engaging with and looking at people who we know, not this idea of people who we have no idea who they are, what they're going through.

    Like you just see what they want you to see.

    yeah and by the way this conversation is like separate to the to what's going on with twitch i don't think necessarily that's even what happened but i just think it's i think when we're talking about like the mental health crisis like you can't ignore like social media's impact on that and this is so sad yeah

    like i i just feel a real sadness for his wife and his kids oh my be beyond

    beyond and his kids like their family's so cute i'm sure i'm sure everyone like i hope people rally around them and and they have the support that they need but this is devastating Yeah.

    So that was our first story.

    Sorry, you know, it's sad, but that's the reality of what's going on.

    Our second story is

    another story that I spoiled already.

    But Lisa Hochstein was seen canoodling with tech entrepreneur Jodi Glidden.

    So I'm not going to read the.

    Is that a man or a woman?

    Oh, sorry.

    Jodi is a man.

    Great.

    So Larsa was on Watch What Happens Live.

    It would be great if it was a woman, too.

    I just wanted.

    Of course, we just need a clarity.

    Larsa was on Watch What Happens Live and Lisa came with her.

    They had like this girl's night out in New York.

    So they're back on good terms.

    So there's no need for you to fret.

    Thankfully.

    But like, why can't I watch the good terms?

    I feel like I'm always looking at them on social media and they're always together in the clubs.

    Even before Lenny went away, like they were always friends on Instagram and now I'm watching them on TV and they're beefing.

    That's not, that doesn't work for me.

    No, that's so fair.

    So Lisa came to support and then they had like a GNO where they went out to catch steak after Watch What Happens Live.

    Lisa, they obviously call the properties on themselves, but because this article is like every single detail.

    Lisa was spotted out walking out, not holding hands, but just standing next to this guy, Jodi Gliddon.

    Um, and then Larsa was there, so it was like kind of a double date.

    Larsa was there with, you know, who she's been claiming has been her good friend, but they're holding hands.

    It's Marcus Jordan, who's Michael Jordan's 31-year-old son.

    Larsa is 48, so there's a large

    age gap.

    His friend Deloebe is developed.

    Larson maintains that her and Marcus are still friends, or just friends.

    And the same with Lisa.

    Lisa's like, I'm not in a serious relationship.

    It's only been seven months since the separation, but I'm just like having fun.

    And this guy's like a tech entrepreneur.

    Let me get, he's the CEO of Intro Hive, which is a software company.

    And how old is he?

    And what does he look like?

    Lisa is 40.

    He's very cute, like very normal looking.

    Like I couldn't describe it.

    Is he older or younger than her?

    it doesn't have his age so lisa's 40

    and he is

    unknown okay well i love this for her i was watching last night and the last scene of the most recent episode was truly heartbreaking like they have lenny's hot mic over try not to spoil it for me because i do want to spoil it already because they're getting divorced and he has a girlfriend yeah but it's lenny's hot mic he's talking to his friend about how he's going to be single soon over like lisa in the backyard They're hosting a party and like Lisa just like taking pictures with her friends, like truly fucking oblivious.

    Like talking to everyone earlier about how her and Lenny's relationship has highs and lows.

    And right now they're in a high.

    Like she is

    has no fucking clue.

    I think she knows that her relationship is strained, but it's been strained, I think, for a lot of their marriage.

    And they work through it.

    And then there are highs and lows.

    And right now, I think Lenny's being nice to her because he's so happy in his personal life, like with his girlfriend.

    True.

    But he said, his friend asked, Are you still sleeping with Lisa?

    And he was like, no, because then I'd be cheating on the person person that I really care about.

    Oh, shit.

    Yeah.

    My stomach sank.

    And it's so crazy because, like, last week, Lisa's going on, like, about her marriage on the show, like, how, you know, we're doing good.

    We had dinner together, whatever.

    And next week, like, they're in the keys and he's trying to bring the girlfriend around the house.

    And like in the, in a matter of two weeks, like, her life just completely unravels.

    And

    as much as she says, like, she does her family's finances and she's in charge of the house, like

    she is a kept woman.

    Proudly.

    Of course.

    And proudly.

    I am so this is one of the relationships where it's like, if it were to dissolve, like she's someone I would really worry about because I don't, I think she's a strong person.

    Every time she gets into a fight, I'm always surprised by how much she can stand her ground.

    But like, I,

    Lenny isn't, is responsible for their entire life, you know?

    And do they mention a prenup or anything?

    I haven't heard it.

    I don't know.

    I feel like they do have a prenup.

    Okay.

    If they don't, then obviously we have nothing to worry about.

    But the fact that when I saw this article, I can't lie, I like breathed.

    I'm like, good, like she just needs to date another rich man because she was a kept woman.

    If they had a prenup, she obviously is going to get child support and her kids are really young, but like she lives this extravagant lifestyle.

    She does have a career as a housewife, as an influencer.

    I feel like when you're so rich.

    And you become like a famous reality star at slash, you know, you get a huge amount of Instagram followers, you don't really like capitalize on it.

    Like you don't need it.

    But now I think we're going to see her, you know, slumming it with the best of them.

    Yeah, I think that she'll be able to have a career and be fine, but like not nearly at the level that she has been living.

    She lives in an 80 million dollar house.

    Her closet maybe has 40 Birkins.

    Like every outfit has a different Birkin.

    And like no amount of Instagram influencing is can get you that.

    Can get you that unless you start your own business and have a lot of success.

    But anyways, I'm just happy.

    Then I was thinking like, why can't Lisa have a boyfriend like after lenny breaks her heart and goes off with his girlfriend like lisa should fall in love lisa should have a boyfriend who loves her and cares about her and like i don't know if it's this tech guy but i i hope lenny saw those pictures this morning like and he gets a little bit of taste of his own medicine yeah no like of course you don't have to stay married to anyone but he's going about this in like the meanest way like i heard he cut her off um if they have a prenup in the show they have footage from like they teased it a little bit where it's like he's trying to get her out of the house and he was like yeah unless i go through the courts you will not leave the house.

    But like, how is she supposed to go?

    And like, that's the mother of your children.

    And where is she supposed to go?

    And is she taking her kids with you?

    And so you're going to stay alone in the 10-bedroom house when the kids are going to go look like a condo,

    right?

    Like a normal situation like this, I feel like, even with like someone who's really spiteful, like Lenny, is like, you're so happy.

    Go with your other girl.

    Leave your, at least for now, leave the mother of your children and your children in the house that they live in.

    And you can go, you know,

    gallivant around town with your new girlfriend.

    Yeah.

    I

    don't know why he has to be so spiteful towards her when he's so happy.

    And like, if he just like,

    you know, gets divorced in a normal way and is like kind to her, like, he'll get what he wants even sooner, which is to be separated.

    I also feel like this is going to negatively affect his business because I think a lot of women, and that's who he works on, is women are going to take Lisa's side and be like, you know, and his boobs aren't that much better than anyone else's, where it's like, I don't want to go to this guy who's like ethically compromised.

    For sure, but I have to believe that like

    he's a plastic surgeon but even like the great to live in an 80 million dollar house i think there are other elements to his business it's possible like i don't know i'm just making this up but like you know he owns a patent on some sort of like silicone like i don't think clients are what bought the 80 million dollar house like i think he's a really smart doctor he probably made some good investments.

    I think maybe he owns a patent.

    Like I just, I can't understand how even you know how many tits you have to do?

    I know, but I think he does that many tits.

    Like, look at Terry Dubrow.

    Look at Paul.

    Yeah, but like Terry.

    Paul's money was also Adrian's money.

    Paul's money was, I think Terry Dubrow also.

    I think like when you get to that level of plastic surgeon, you have your hand in a lot of different things.

    And like you're the best at what you do.

    So you create like inventions and shit.

    Like that's how I think it.

    Honestly, if anybody knows, I'm actually really, I might be wrong, but I think like

    the majority of Terry Dubrow's money and the majority of Lenny Hoxteen's money like come from other stuff in the medical space, not just the act of putting on new tits and noses.

    Okay.

    That's what I think.

    You're probably right.

    Terry and Lenny both do boobs.

    It might, like, if they're doing boobs, that are like, what?

    I have no idea what a boob job costs, but.

    Yeah.

    I mean, Terry also, like,

    they are very successful in their TV.

    Like, they were unbotched for like 10 years.

    Yeah, but they had the house before botched.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    No, I'm just curious.

    You're right.

    Like, he has like a skincare QVC, but that ain't it.

    Yeah, I just hope that he's not terrible towards her because

    that's just so painful.

    It's already been painful enough.

    Like, she had no idea they were getting divorced and he has a girlfriend.

    He has a whole nother life.

    And, like.

    And he acted like such an amoron with his mic on.

    Obviously, he didn't know that he was.

    No, he knew that he was mic's.

    His friend was like, are you wearing a mic?

    He's like, that's why I'm whispering.

    Like, dumb.

    Dumb.

    Yeah.

    Dumb.

    And there's another scene where he's like yelling at her when he's saying, like, I know you're not going to leave this house without the courts.

    And he looks over and sees the camera.

    Right.

    Okay.

    Then there was the scene.

    I don't know if you saw this where the nanny fell in the shower.

    Oh, God, no.

    Okay.

    They were having a romantic dinner outside and someone comes running out.

    Their nanny fell while she was taking a shower and she broke her arm or her wrist and she needs to go to the hospital.

    And so they're, they're like, Lisa's freaking out.

    And it's like, okay, I'm going to call an ambulance.

    And Lenny was.

    measured, but then became like stern.

    And he was like, you don't call an ambulance for this.

    Either call an Uber or have someone drive her.

    It's an abuse of the system.

    Like, this isn't an action.

    She doesn't need an ambulance.

    Like, that's true.

    She broke her wrist.

    We need to ice it and we need to get her to the hospital.

    And Lisa, like, asked the chef, she's like, would you call an ambulance?

    He was like, yeah.

    And so she's like, I'm going to call an ambulance.

    And Lenny like comes in and yells at her and is like, don't, do, do you understand me?

    Do not call an ambulance.

    Like, he was speaking so nastily to her, but like, I'm not sure that his point was wrong.

    No, by the way, even I know that.

    Like, that's not what you call an ambulance for.

    An ambulance is when you like, you can't afford to drive because that time is so precious.

    Right.

    And also, like, an ambulance will give you treatment in the van and you need that time of treatment.

    Whereas, like, if you have to have your wrist set or your arm surgery, like, they're not doing that in an ambulance anyway.

    Right.

    An ambulance is like bringing the hospital to you.

    Yeah.

    Temporarily.

    So, I don't think he was wrong.

    And at first, I was like, Of course, we'll call an ambulance.

    Like, she fell.

    And then it was like, oh, maybe that is an abusive system.

    Okay.

    But the way he spoke to her was so uncomfortable.

    And there were so many other people in the house, and everyone was uncomfortable.

    Yeah.

    Damn, that's rough.

    Like, no, I'm, I had to finish my book for a book club last night, which I did in my book clubs tonight.

    And I actually did not like Flicker in the Dark.

    I know.

    Which is shocking because everyone was, first of all, I knew from the second the book started, spoiler alert, who the actual character was.

    How?

    Oh my God, it was so obvious.

    I did not think so.

    The second she said her dad turned around and looked at them and said, be good.

    Mm-hmm.

    Duh.

    No, I had no idea.

    Like the spoiler, like the her fiancé thing threw me through a loop, but I don't know.

    I'm just very, and I'm not even good at guessing stuff.

    I'm actually like dumb as fuck.

    Like people are always like, you couldn't, like, honestly, when, when the end of Shutter Island, I was like, what?

    Ever guessed?

    Yeah, and you know what I mean, but like, I've never guessed something.

    Like, I'm not smart like that.

    And even I was like, damn, this is dumb.

    Um,

    and my God, if I had a knife, I would have stabbed the protagonist.

    She was being so dumb.

    Like, the thing is, and I need to this, everyone who's ever been a movie or a book main character, when you find something out about a crime, go to the police.

    Then you won't get framed.

    Okay.

    Okay.

    It was, it was whatever.

    But so I only got to watch like an episode and a half.

    And actually, I agreed with what you were saying, but I thought it would change.

    Like this whole thing of Larsa saying, I saw this Instagram account where they said hookers live in this.

    And then Kiki ran and Marisol ran and told Larsa.

    So dumb.

    I'm like, this is, we're so above this.

    Miami is really, I think when they found out they were going to be on Peacock, they thought it was like,

    but I actually think it's the best thing for them.

    Like they're really in their own league it's edited so differently it looks more like selling sunset like it's very streamer it's very elevated and i think they're better than the storyline yeah the storyline was weird and also kiki is such a snitch you could tell that lisa felt really bad about it and that she was gonna go to larsa the second she said it well she was gonna go to larsa and just like admit it and i think that kiki could have been a good friend by not saying anything at first and then if lisa never admitted it kiki could tell her but like give her a chance to just explain herself like she didn't say it maliciously she was just like being gossipy and drunk and like it's really not a big deal No, Kiki is a friend of and I think she's really vying for that full-time position and that's what that move was.

    And they all left out the concept.

    She was quoting an Instagram account.

    And yes, she misquoted, but they just said,

    Atisa said this building is full of OnlyFans and hookers.

    No, but still, even to like quote an Instagram account that would talk shit about like where you live is

    rude.

    It's not nice.

    No, for sure.

    But like it's, but it's leaving that out is intentionally misleading.

    It was, it requires context.

    But it's not a capital offense and it shouldn't be something that's so friendship ending.

    But I had to fast forward through a lot of people's scenes and i wasn't even like trying to go quickly but i i physically could not watch julia's scenes julia and adriana together julia is dreadful dreadful honestly i i can't her talking about like being i don't even know what she's talking about because i had to fast forward but i think her storyline is that she's like bored in her life because her girls went away and like martina's just like not happy with her I want to know that more about Martina.

    Like Martina should be on the show.

    By the way, I couldn't agree more.

    The most interesting thing about Julia is her wife.

    I don't care about the farm.

    I don't care about her friendship with Adriata.

    I don't care what her thoughts are on her relationships with the women.

    But when they went behind the scenes at the Miami Open and Martina, like I thought that was so interesting.

    I think Martina is actually really smart.

    And like, I think she has like this no bullshit attitude.

    And her wife is like so full of shit that I actually think it's like straining their match.

    Yeah, I totally agree.

    But Martina's everything.

    She is everything.

    I appreciate her in the show, but like she should be the, why can't she be the housewife?

    I feel like the network approached Martina and Martina was like, no, but my wife will do it because like she's more like that.

    And she thought it would be like good for her wife to like have this.

    Yeah, because Julia like needs things right now.

    She's like, I'm kind of a board housewife.

    And, but you have the show and you have your farm.

    Like, what more are you looking for?

    She's trying to get back into modeling now.

    She's positively fast forward.

    And then I also have to fast forward through Nicole's family scenes.

    You know how I feel about Nicole.

    I don't mind her in the group setting at all.

    I couldn't care less about her family, her, her parents and stuff.

    Like her kid and her husband and their house is like that, that I'll watch, but her house.

    The cars and the chefs and the boats and the planes.

    But when she's like beefing with her parents, like fast forward.

    No, like we really don't care.

    Yeah.

    So, and I'm just so steadfast in my obsession with Marisol and Alexia.

    Like I just love their friendship.

    Marisol has like the best style.

    Everything she wears is like designer and so cute.

    I agree.

    Like when she went to get her nails done at Frankie, Alexia and Frankie's, and she was wearing that Prada like um dress that's like kind of like overall straps and those Chanel like Teva like shoes.

    She looked so cute.

    Yeah.

    How does she have all this clothing?

    I don't know, but she has amazing style.

    A couple of the girls have really great style.

    And I actually would say Marisol maybe has the best style, but they all always look wonderful.

    And that's a, that's a treat too.

    Yeah.

    A lot of them look sometimes like a little gaudy, like so, like very Dorite Kemsey, like so many

    miami designers i i know i feel like marisol does it in like a really tasteful elegant mature way

    i mean marisol is also definitely an alcoholic yeah functioning but she also said she never gets hang hungover so it's like if i never got hungover yeah i drink all the time but your hangovers make you stop drinking because it's not worth it

    Right.

    Or maybe she's never hungover because she's never not drunk.

    No, but like it would, it would it would hit you at least once.

    She said she's never had a hangover.

    Yeah, no, I drink the same too.

    If life would be so much fun.

    It's so fun.

    all the pros.

    So I was happy to see Lisa out with like an eligible rich man because that is what she needs.

    Yes, it is what she needs.

    I'm so happy to see that.

    I think the rest of the season is going to be heartbreaking.

    And if it wasn't for this divorce, like there is no season, honestly.

    Agreed.

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    Our next story is some annunciation news, which I think is very appropriate here at the toast, okay?

    Brendan Frazier reveals, we have all been pronouncing his name incorrectly.

    By George, we've been pronouncing George of the Jungle star Brendan Frazier's name wrong this whole time.

    In a conversation with Adam Sandler for Variety's Actors on Actors interview series, the 54-year-old Frazier claimed that no one's ever gotten his name right, even though he's the talk of the town right now for his performance in Whale.

    So he says, instead of a similar pronunciation similar to the 90s sitcom Frazier,

    Frazier says his name actually rhymes with Razor.

    So it's Fraser.

    Okay, that's pretty similar.

    He's a little dramatic.

    No wonder he's an actor.

    He did say fuck it.

    He said, like, I don't care, but like, for the record, if anyone cares, it's Fraser.

    I feel like that reminds me of Outlander, the protagonist.

    Her name is like Claire Fraser, but it's Bel Fraser.

    They're related.

    I think.

    Well, obviously, I wanted to talk about this because Brendan Fraser is my boyfriend, but also because I will be a little bit more of a family.

    Brendan is my boyfriend.

    Brendan is a god.

    Brendan is a god.

    Brendan is a breeze in my hair on the weekend.

    Brendan's a relief.

    Brendan is a relaxing thought.

    Aren't you envious that for you, it's not.

    Very good.

    I like that.

    But mostly, I wanted to talk about this because I've been seeing a lot about this variety actors on actors series.

    I don't know if you heard anything about it.

    It's like a prime video series where they're sitting down, like two actors at the same time, and just like having conversations.

    They're like interviewing one another.

    And here's the lineup thus far: it's Kate Blanchette and Michelle Yeo, Jamie Lee Curtis and Colin Farrell, Laura Dern and Michelle Williams, Viola Davis and Jennifer Lawrence, Carrie Mulligan and Margo Robby, Robby, Brendan Fraser and Adam Sandler, and Joe Alwyn and Paul Mezcow.

    So everyone's like freaking out over the Joe Alwyn, Paul Mezcow one because they're both like, you know, streaming service, book-turned TV show hotties.

    And I think it's actually a really good concept for a show.

    It is, but some of these names, this just sounds like a big circle jerk.

    Sorry, there's more and they get better.

    Austin Butler and Janelle Monet.

    And these are all people who are currently on like the Oscars Golden Globe circuit.

    So they're all promoting their most recent project.

    Kate Hudson and Glenn Powell.

    Okay, that sounds good.

    John Boyega and Letitia Wright.

    Anna DeArmas and Eddie Redmain.

    And Paul Dano and Brian Tyree Henry.

    Sorry, I forgot like a bunch of them.

    This doesn't do it for me personally.

    I've been seeing a lot of clips on TikTok of like funny moments that have come out.

    And it does actually look good.

    I wouldn't watch every single episode.

    I would just watch the people that like I care about.

    Saving CMT Crossroads.

    Let's talk about that.

    Yeah, agreed.

    When was the last CMT Crossroads?

    I do them all the time.

    The last one I can recall that, like, I remember watching, like, as it was actively premiering, was Zach Brown band and Sean Mendez.

    Yeah.

    Why don't we just Google it?

    I got my trusty, my iPad was feeling neglected.

    LOL.

    I loved that concept of like pairing country stars for concerts with pop stars and like playing each other's music.

    Okay.

    Oh, I guess they do them a lot, but like they're not all major, major.

    Right.

    And some of them are like a bunch of people.

    So like for King and Country, just did one with Breland, Chrissy Metz, Natalie Grant.

    And then

    Robert Plan and Alison Rouse, Black Pumas and Mickey Guyton, Leanne Rhimes and Carly Parse, Ashley McBride, Mickey Guyton and Brandy Clark.

    That's pretty cool.

    Yeah, so they call them like Leanne Rhimes and Friends.

    Yeah.

    So I guess when they do like a a big like festival lineup it's with multiple people that's pretty

    i'm glad they're still doing i'm glad they're still doing it i guess not everyone can be like casey musgraves and katy perry they do smaller artists everyone can be like um

    and that's sad for everyone yeah that was a really good one i think that might be my favorite even though the sean mendez zach brown man is really good yeah

    there's also nick jonas and luke bryan

    There, oh, there's Halsey and Kelsey Ballerini, which are you hearing about the drama between them?

    No.

    You know, they were like really good friends.

    They had a song together, Graveyard, on Kelsey's last album.

    And then on Kelsey's new album, she has a song that was like, became really good friends with a pop star, even put her on track five.

    Wish I didn't do that.

    If I'd known we wouldn't be talking, I wouldn't have done it at the time.

    Something like that.

    That's great.

    That's the tea.

    I know.

    That's the tea.

    And her crossroads performance of singing, You're Just a a Lost

    Boy with Halsey went so viral.

    People were obsessed with the performance.

    I've seen it probably a hundred times, just like clipped out on TikTok.

    People were obsessed.

    You know who needs to do one?

    Let's pair her up.

    Even though, would she be a pop or a country?

    Kelly Clarkson needs to do a crossroads.

    Oh, yeah.

    I feel like she does crossroads every day.

    Her life is a crossroad.

    Kelly Clarkson.

    Would she be the country star?

    Okay, but would she be the country star?

    She would be.

    It reminds me of like Gavin DeGras did one and he did one with Chris Young.

    So it's someone who's like still more country than him.

    Yeah, she needs to do one with like, I mean, she could sing anyone's songs.

    I actually saw a TikTok yesterday that was like, I am never going to become a singer because I don't want Kelly Clarkson to ever cover one or my song.

    She's better than you.

    Because she'll literally do it better than you.

    Wait, can you think?

    Who would she be a good pair with?

    Like, we need to.

    manifesting.

    You want a girl or a boy?

    She's such a girl girl.

    Like I think she needs to be, and she's like almost like a maternal figure to so many young women and a men.

    So, what about that girl you were just talking about on the Patreon?

    Meg Maroney.

    Oh, my God.

    I would die.

    I do think they need someone slightly more established.

    Okay.

    Like,

    like Lauren Elena.

    Ingrid Audrey.

    That would be good too.

    Okay, just a thought.

    Crossroads.

    Free idea.

    We have our fourth story now, which is,

    we never spoke about how Jay Leno like literally got burned alive.

    He's sitting down with Hoda and giving everyone like an update on what happened and where he's at.

    He's breaking down the car fire that sent him to a burn unit with second and third degree burns, and he's pretty cool when talking about it.

    Comedian sat down for an interview with Hoda Kotby, told her how some mechanical work on one of his vintage cars turned ugly in the blink of an eye.

    Jay says that he was in his Burbank garage last month working on a white stream car trying to unclog a fuel line.

    He told his friend to blow some air through the fuel line when suddenly he was hit in the face with a full face of gas and it only got worse from there.

    Jay says his face caught fire when the car's pilot light ignited the fuel and he yelled to his friend, I'm on fire.

    Fortunately, his friend Dave was Johnny on the spot pulling him out of harm's way, jumping on top of him and smothering the fire.

    And he's back to business already.

    He's been pretty casual in recalling the scary situation.

    But he was cracking jokes after the incident to photographers just 10 days after.

    So he's okay, but he pretty much was lit on fire.

    That's crazy.

    That's amazing that his friend was able to save him, though.

    No, totally.

    And

    not to make everything about me, but like I did go through something similar.

    You did not.

    I was literally engulfed in flames.

    You were not.

    I was in Utah.

    We were on vacation and I was outside setting,

    trying to put the fire, outdoor fireplace on.

    What's it called?

    Like a bonfire?

    Pit, pit.

    So it's one of those pits with gas.

    So you basically just turn the gas on, you put the lighter down, and the whole thing engulfs in flames.

    But when I leaned down to light the gas, I had two strands of hair dangling in front of me and the fire went up on the strands,

    went all the way up, singed off all the front faces, a piece of my hair, and my fucking eyelashes.

    Like the tips, so scary eyelashes.

    No, I would say 50% of my eyelashes were gone.

    Like half of them in length got singed right off and all my baby hairs, which was kind of nice.

    Yeah.

    So you would say that was engulfed in flames.

    Yeah.

    Yeah, I would.

    And I'm just like kind of triggered reading this story.

    I understand.

    Well, I'm happy for Jay Leno.

    Um, we've been like seeing his, you know, recovery, and I think it's great.

    No, and he got burned, which like thankfully I did not, that's the difference.

    Like he actually like left the hospital with second and third degree burns.

    I just went inside and I was like screaming.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    And I smelled like Larry's hair.

    It looked like a cartoon.

    I had, it was like a cartoon.

    I had like a trail of smoke following me out from the house and I was like screaming and Olivia was in the kitchen.

    I'm like, help me.

    She was always screaming, though.

    But there was also nothing she could do.

    Like it was over.

    Like, the flames never caught.

    They just burned off all my hair and then, like, sit, like,

    fused out.

    But, like, Olivia was actually pretty good.

    I was like, I couldn't even put it into words.

    I was so fucking shook.

    Yeah.

    That was crazy.

    It was just like reliving the trauma, you know.

    I know.

    I'm sorry for you.

    I wouldn't have chosen that story because I wouldn't have wanted to bring that up for you.

    But see, the thing about me is I'm all about healing, about confronting my trauma and healing it.

    Yeah.

    That You're

    brave.

    I'm so brave.

    Nobody understands.

    Our fifth and final story, the final story.

    It's the final story and it's a little bit of tech news.

    It's about Instagram.

    Instagram is adding text updates with the launch of Notes.

    This should have been the first story.

    This is the big news.

    And

    they're adding other shared features.

    But the big thing going on is that amid backlash over the intrusion of the algorithmic recommended content

    into Instagram's feed, excuse me, Instagram today introduced a number of new design features that are designed to make it easier for users to keep up with their real-world friends.

    Oh, real-world friends.

    Girls.

    Interesting.

    Right.

    The company is now rolling out several significant changes, including most notably an addition called Notes, a feature that Meta has considered turning into a Twitter competitor, according to a recent news report.

    With Notes, users can update their friends using just text and emoji, adding a different format for social updates beyond the images and videos Instagram is best known for.

    Other new features are rolling out to stories and will introduce new ways to share with groups.

    So the big feature that everyone's talking about is notes.

    It's very much giving like away message.

    Yeah, I don't know why it's called notes.

    I don't feel like I can write a note there.

    I feel like I can only write like a little five-word thing like rasenstras right sell it like ebay yeah hit the sell

    hit the sell out on the town right but if you're hitting the sell why can't i be on instagram too right so basically what this means is like now when you swipe into your messages like your direct messages section on instagram at the very top people's your mutuals only mutuals well if they if they add an away message it'll be like in you know like tahoe for a week don't text or whatever yeah okay i think the fact that I was surprised I went to go do a message, leave an, like, an await message.

    And I, it told me that it would only be people who, like, I follow and follow me back.

    So

    it's already up?

    Yeah.

    Oh, my God.

    Everyone was freaking.

    Oh, my God.

    One thing about me is I'm the last person on the planet.

    If you already had this on your phone, you would have made it the first story because it's like crazy.

    I don't have it.

    Let me check.

    Sometimes the toast Instagram gets like the new features first.

    No.

    No.

    I can't believe I already have it then.

    You're so.

    Do you have upsets in your app store available?

    I'm on auto update.

    And anyone who's not on auto update is fucking psychotic Ben's offer.

    I feel like I'm on auto update, but sometimes it just hasn't updated.

    Maybe I didn't have enough Wi-Fi or something.

    Like, maybe you should check it out.

    No, I am always getting the new updates to Instagram.

    I'm the last user on the list of people.

    I'm literally the last.

    That's because they know you don't like change and they do it for you.

    I'm so appreciative.

    This is honestly really stupid.

    Like, I don't it is, but you know what?

    I'm going to say one nice thing because we were just talking about how social media used to be more so about connecting with people that you actually know.

    And I think any updates that are trying to bring real-world friends closer together, I am going to support.

    Like, I think one of the best inventions on Instagram in the last five years is close friends.

    Yeah.

    Like, I think it's so funny.

    And I think people actually feel more inclined to be real on close friends and actually keep up with people that they really know or want to know and people who want to know them.

    And I'm here for updates such as those.

    That's an interesting take.

    I agree.

    I think Close Friends was like an amazing.

    I don't know why everyone is comparing this to Twitter.

    It doesn't feel like Twitter at all.

    They're just both text.

    Yeah.

    And it's like, it's not going to be doing it.

    It's not a feeling.

    Are people going to be doing it every five minutes?

    Right.

    Like tweet.

    Tweeting is like very much a steady stream of thoughts, whereas this feels more like a

    daily update.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    I wonder if I'll use it.

    I just like, I'm now waiting for Instagram and I know they're going to take 10 years to do it, but like we really need to start to be able to use two link stickers on one

    link for top story.

    Link for pants.

    Right.

    Like so many influencers like our, well, like right now, I'm wearing a set.

    And I linked this set when I wore it a few days ago.

    And I had to do two separate stories, link for top, link for bottom.

    And if I can just do one motherfucking story with two motherfucking link stickers, that'd be saving me a lot of trouble.

    I agree.

    I've thought.

    And I think a lot of people, even with the podcast how i'm like tapped to listen or tap to watch like i would love to be able to link our podcast to youtube and to spotify at the exact same time

    if anybody with any influence hears this like please it's such a good idea yeah no-brainer they could probably roll it out in five minutes if they wanted

    no but the thing with instagram is like they'll say oh a bunch of people want us to do this okay we'll never go unless tiktok does it and then it'll be done tomorrow

    So fucking true.

    And in this article, they did mention Instagram doing this thing called Candid, which was an attempt to rip off Be Real, which TikTok has done too.

    I don't know if you know this.

    TikTok has another tab now where it's called Moments, I think, and it's just a Be Real.

    Does it come at a certain time?

    No, but you only do it once a day.

    I kind of like the idea.

    I mean, I'm not on Be Real and I'm certainly not on TikTok, but I kind of like the idea of getting to do your Be Real once a day.

    And you get to choose like what about your day you want to memorialize.

    But that's the point.

    It's like you're not being real.

    But like,

    I think it, okay, so it's not about being real, but it's about

    memorializing your best life moments and just one a day.

    We don't need a hundred selfies, just one.

    Actually, Be Real came this morning, so I'm going to take it right now.

    Smile, smile.

    I love being real.

    I feel like I'm so real.

    And I just want to show everyone how real I can be.

    I just want to say I've actually started to really dislike Be Real.

    One, I have like no friends on the platform and I wanted to keep it just like people i actually know not just like a public platform so i find myself incredibly bored by it every fucking time it comes i'm in my bed and i'm watching tv and it's like embarrassing and like you can go into your archive and see like what you've posted every day nobody else can see it just you and it's like it's actually embarrassing i'm literally like in my house all the time but so maybe that's like i think there's nothing wrong with that you know i think that that is no but i have a full life like i'm always i'm just

    why i'm saying like i actually kind of like the idea of tick tock moments because you get to chronicle like the best part of your day.

    And sure, it's a highlight reel, but okay, sue me.

    Since when is that such a bad thing?

    It's a highlight reel.

    Yeah, great.

    No, totally.

    Highlights are cool.

    No.

    I got dragged to filth on TikTok yesterday because I made a TikTok and I was laying in my bed with no makeup and I looked so ugly.

    So I put on one of these filters that kind of changes your face, but it doesn't add makeup.

    So it just made me like a little tan.

    I guess it made my lips look really big.

    And like they were dragging me.

    It's on TikTok.

    Rightfully so.

    Yeah.

    You know, I actually set TikTok on my iPad for work purposes purposes so that I can.

    I do look like a mongrel, but it's not my fault.

    So that I can

    follow our fan accounts.

    Oh, here.

    Doing my resolutions.

    Yeah.

    Okay.

    Yeah.

    You look like you're Scott Filler and you have a blush.

    But what are they saying?

    Yeah, no idea.

    They're saying

    I feel this in my soul.

    I literally don't see one negative comment.

    Oh, ready?

    Okay.

    That's a talent of mine is that I can find negative comments.

    You know what?

    This is.

    Claudia, I literally don't see one.

    Okay, maybe they deleted them, but there was a bunch.

    Ready?

    Mm-hmm.

    LMAO, this filter is wild, Claude.

    Holy lips, Batman.

    Are you using a filter?

    Yep.

    I don't see it.

    Yep.

    Maybe because you're blocking out the haters with your diff I wear sunglasses.

    So fucking true.

    Oh my gosh.

    Thank you, Diff.

    I don't have to tolerate that.

    So those, by the way, those were my Fast Five stories.

    How did you think that went?

    I thought it was really fun to be on the receiving end of them.

    It's low pressure.

    It is.

    Oh, want my thoughts on Jay Leno?

    Sure.

    Want my thoughts on Brendan Frazer?

    Sure.

    Frazzer.

    Frazer.

    Frazzer and Moderna.

    Don't

    disrespect my boyfriend.

    Frazzer is my boyfriend.

    Frazzer is God.

    Frazzer's with a breeze in my hair on the weekend.

    Frazzer's a relaxing thought.

    Are you envious that for you?

    It's not.

    Jackie, Frozer is the thunder rattling the ground.

    Frozer's on your scent like a bounty hunter.

    Frozer's gonna track you down step by step from town to town.

    He really is.

    So good.

    Are you ready for Deer Toasters, our advice segment that we do every Wednesday where you can write into deartoasters at gmail.com and get advice from your favorite girlies, and you could totally submit it anonymously?

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    Okay, I'm excited for dear toasters because usually I read them and I've read them prior.

    So now I'm getting like a blind reaction to people's problems.

    I have not read these prior either.

    So we can both.

    Oh, I see the words period blood.

    Okay.

    Yes.

    Let's jump right in to Dear Toasters, which is our weekly advice segment where you can write into us.

    We'll give you the best advice based on our personal experience and things that we feel and that we know and that we think would be the best remedy for you.

    It's just

    personal.

    Honestly, advice is more personal than comedy.

    Add it to the list.

    You know, I would.

    Except, I don't know if you've noticed, I can't find my phone.

    I've been looking for it all episodes because I keep hearing it vibrate somewhere.

    Torture.

    Usually, before the episode, I turn it on, do not disturb, but I couldn't find it before the episode, so I didn't.

    And now I'm just hearing like these vibrations that are driving me crazy.

    Unfortunately, you're being spooked.

    The list will suffer.

    Hate to see it.

    First up, dear Jackson Claude, love you, girlies, and all that, yada yada.

    So here's the sitch.

    I live with two of my best friends and we all share a bathroom.

    Whenever one of the girls goes to the bathroom, she somehow always leaves something behind on the toilet.

    Some days it's a couple pubes, others it's period blood.

    It's not massive amounts, but enough to gross a girl out.

    I've texted our group chat before as to not single her out and it still happens almost every time she leaves the bathroom.

    I'm currently writing this after seeing some sort of

    discharge on the seat I'm now sitting on.

    My question is, how do I bring it up?

    Do I bring it up all or just deal with it?

    Do I bring it up at all or just deal with it?

    Yeah, but she's wanting to fucking bring it up.

    Oh my God, disgusting.

    She's one of my best friends, but we haven't even been friends for a full year yet, so things are still a little touchy.

    Yesterday, I had to ask her not to slam the doors in the morning as it's right next to my room and wakes me up.

    She handled it well and we joked about it, but you could tell it bothered her.

    I don't want to be nitpicky.

    This isn't nitpicky because I'm sure there's annoying things I do too.

    Sure, let her tell you.

    But I'd like for there to be open communication.

    I don't want to embarrass her, but I like to like I deserve to sit on a blood-free toilet seat, right?

    Thanks for any help, smooches.

    I mean, by the way, the door thing is like actually so different because I feel like you would like in the morning close your door and not realize like the walls are thin.

    Like, being told that, like, I feel if she's offended by that, like, seriously, fuck her.

    And honestly, like, this would literally piss me off.

    Of course, you say something, and you know what?

    I'm really tired of having to like dance around other people's sensitivities.

    Like, you left your fucking discharge on the toilet seat, like, you have, and I have a problem.

    This is so nasty, and and also unhygienic, unsanitary, like, to have just like like blood laying around and where other people like put their openings like it's just not clean whatsoever like the lack of self-awareness like if i sometimes i like will be in a public setting i'll use the bathroom like i'll pee and then i will have like paranoia that i didn't flush and that's just like one time and one thing and this is like all the time there's something being left behind like no pube left behind this is horrible no and i feel like this is really like symptomatic of the culture we live in where like people are afraid to confront other people.

    You don't want to offend her.

    People are unashamed.

    Oh, well, that's another thing.

    We need to bring back shame.

    I agree.

    We need to shame everyone into submission.

    No, like a little shame is a good thing.

    Like you shouldn't feel shame like unnecessarily, but like shame will have you acting right.

    No, because I feel, I feel like, you know, a couple of years ago, especially like online, there was this movement to like normalize periods and talk about it.

    Like we shouldn't have to hide it.

    You don't have to put your tampon up your sleeve when you go to work to go change your tampon.

    And like, while I do approve the message, I actually think shit like this is a direct result of that movement.

    And why maybe things got so constricted in the first place.

    It's like, okay, if we talk about period blood, will that lead to girls leaving it on the seat?

    We can't talk about it then.

    Right, right.

    No, I'm like angry on your behalf.

    Definitely say something.

    Like maybe not like this is gross, like maybe start documenting it.

    Yeah, I would take some pictures and send them in the group chat.

    Like I would escalate the situation until she can't ignore it.

    So first you said something like and you were like tiptoeing around the situation.

    I would take a pic and say, hey, who wants to come clean this up?

    Who's on there?

    Period.

    Like start being an investigator.

    And then like once, if she doesn't claim it, then be like, I, it's you.

    Hey, hey, hey.

    Like I spoke to her.

    We know it's you.

    I don't even know you, girl.

    And like, if you don't start cleaning up after yourself, like this is so unhygienic.

    Like you're going to have to move out.

    I could not live with someone like this.

    Like, no, because that's the thing.

    It's your house too.

    And your home should be a beacon of peace for you.

    And you have

    war in your home.

    And there's, that's not okay.

    Like, fuck with, with someone's personal space.

    Like, that's not okay.

    No, some people are so irrationally angry about this.

    I'm so angry.

    It's not okay.

    Take your, take matters into your own hands and you're not even like so close with this girl.

    But honestly, even if I had a friend that I was like so close with and they did stuff like this, like I don't think we could be that close, honestly, because it speaks to a larger lack of self-awareness.

    And like I can't be

    someone consideration who just like doesn't care for people, doesn't see themselves, like just goes through life like leaving pubes and not and not like feeling self-conscious.

    No, and you know what?

    Roommates are tough and they're an interesting dynamic.

    And if somebody's really messy and they want to keep their personal space messy, like, you know what?

    That is their personal choice.

    But the communal spaces, especially a bathroom, you need to have a level of respect.

    And if you don't, like, I think you're a bad friend.

    I do.

    Yeah.

    Oh, for sure.

    And I just hate people who are like, oh, man, I'm like so busy.

    I couldn't bother to flush.

    Like, that's not a thing.

    What?

    I'm pretty sure Beyonce flushes.

    No, but.

    I'm pretty sure Her Majesty HRH the Queen flushes.

    No, that's so true.

    Flushed.

    Flushed.

    Unacceptable.

    I'm pretty sure Elon Musk flushes.

    Actually, I'm pretty sure he has auto-flush.

    So true.

    Which is problematic for a whole other list of reasons.

    But the thing is, this isn't even about flushing.

    This is about leaving, you know, a little

    party favor on the toilet seat.

    Stop.

    Are you ready for our next story?

    Yeah.

    Hi, girly pops.

    My college roommate, let's call her Lucy, helped me snag an awesome job, and her mother-in-law is now my boss.

    Okay.

    Lucy is a pretty mother-in-law.

    Her college friend is married.

    So true.

    Maybe it's her siblings.

    You know what I mean?

    Like, oh, like, would Ben's parents parents be called my mother-in-law?

    No.

    Okay, good to know.

    Or maybe they were friends in college.

    Are they currently in friends?

    Yes, yes.

    My college roommate from however many years ago.

    Okay.

    Okay.

    Lucy helped me snag an awesome job, and her mother-in-law is now my boss.

    Lucy is a pretty private person.

    And despite her and I being close, she likes to share about her personal life on her own time.

    Her mother-in-law, however, likes to spill the beans on to Lucy's life to anyone that will listen.

    A few weeks ago at a work meeting, she shared to the group of about 10 people that she was having a hard day because Lucy had a miscarriage, Something that I, as Lucy's best friend, hadn't even known yet.

    I let it go thinking maybe it was a lapse in judgment due to grief until this week she also shared to another large group that Lucy's brother was getting a divorce.

    I know Lucy would not be chill with so many people knowing these intimate details, but I also know my boss is a really kind and great person who just has a big mouth.

    What do I do?

    Do I tell Lucy her mother-in-law is spilling the beans and tattletail on my boss?

    Or do I continue to find out about my friend's life through her blabber-mouth boss?

    toastally a when she worker.

    See, that's tough because if you snitch, like you're snitching on your boss, and there's no way that like the boss wouldn't figure out that it was you who snitched once her kids start getting mad at her.

    And also like if you didn't have this job, like the mother-in-law could go about her life, like telling her friends and her coworkers like about things that are going on in her life and like Lucy would never know.

    So I kind of think you have to keep the two things separate.

    I don't think it does Lucy any service to find out.

    I think it's not going to change anything.

    except drive a wedge between Lucy and her mother-in-law.

    Like, I don't think that you need to tell her.

    I was going to say, like, you should tell Lucy.

    Just not, but be like, Lucy, like, you can't say anything, but I just want you to know that, like, your mother-in-law has the biggest mouth.

    So just be cautious of what you share with her.

    If you don't, if it's something you don't want getting out, maybe be very vague.

    Just be like, she's, you know, always like at, you know, big meetings, sharing things about her family.

    And like, if there was something you told her that you didn't want to get out, like, I would hate for you to

    confide in her and be betrayed.

    Maybe be like kind of loose about it.

    I'm not in the middle of this person's family.

    Yeah.

    You know what I mean?

    Like, it's

    just like sharing that Lucy had a miscarriage.

    Like, no, I know.

    It's, it's not good.

    It's really bad.

    But I don't think you inserting yourself into in-law drama is a solution.

    Yeah, no, you're so right about that.

    Sometimes it's truly tough to mind your own business.

    You got to keep your work stuff at your work stuff and your personal life and your personal life.

    And like, the only thing that I think is a shame is like now you know that Lucy had a miscarriage and like you can't even reach out and be like, are you okay?

    I'm here for you without giving it away.

    Yeah.

    Oh, this is a real pickle.

    Yeah.

    I would, like, I kind of want you to be able to be like, I heard, like, I, you know,

    I heard from our, like, whatever that you are going through, like a tough time.

    Like, I just want to be here for you.

    And that might signal to Lucy, like, oh,

    if that, like, was a problem for her, that her mother-in-law was spilling the beans.

    Um, that's a good idea because then you can reach out and comfort your friend while also subliminally being like, yeah, your mom told me, mother-in-law.

    Yeah.

    yeah.

    That's a good answer.

    It's a compromise because,

    yeah.

    I don't know, but then it's like, if you didn't tell someone something so personal and then they came to you and they knew about it because they want to offer their condolences.

    Like, if I wanted your condolences, I would have told you.

    So it's like you are kind of being selfish in like reaching out because you feel like you want to be there as a friend.

    I honestly don't know.

    No, I think it's okay.

    She said, like, it's not that Lucy didn't want to share with with her.

    Lucy's very like closed off.

    And maybe she'll just, like, be relieved that she didn't have to tell a person that this person already knows and she can like confide in her friend.

    I don't know.

    It's like, if I wanted you there for me, I would have told you.

    I actually think that is probably the best way to go about doing it because

    then Lucy will know her mother-in-law shared it

    while also now being able to talk about it with her friend.

    Like she said they're best friends.

    And she's just not like a really open person.

    I think that you should be like, I heard from your mother-in-law.

    Are you okay?

    Then you're spilling the beans without like being like a gossip about it.

    If you feel compelled to do something, that would be the right course of action.

    Yes.

    However, that's a good response.

    Considering all of the dynamics, if it were me,

    I don't think I would do anything.

    Yeah.

    I would just pretend like I was in the bathroom when she said that.

    I don't know anything.

    Yeah.

    Don't look at me.

    I don't know what.

    I don't know a thing.

    Totally.

    Okay.

    Are you ready for our last one?

    Yes.

    Dear Jackie and Claudia, last year my brother, we'll call him William, married a girl named Kate.

    William and Kate moved into my parents' basement after getting married.

    I am his younger sister and live there too.

    Kate and I became close sister-in-laws, but one night we were drinking wine and she spilled a secret.

    She told me before she met my brother she was engaged to a girl.

    She said they lived together and she broke off the engagement just months before meeting my brother.

    She proceeded to tell me not to tell him or anyone.

    My brother is completely in the dark dark about her past.

    What the fuck do I do?

    Do I tell him?

    Confront her about it again?

    Love a sister-in-law who is confused.

    Yeah, I don't think it's a big deal.

    They're already married, so what's gonna happen?

    Yeah, and like, you know, everyone has a past.

    It's not like she was, you know, her past is, she was on the run.

    Like, she was a little gay.

    I would say it depends on your closeness with your sibling.

    Like,

    I would fucking tell my sisters.

    Well, for sure, but like, we are the mafia.

    Right.

    But, like are you guys the mafia like do you are you i don't know but like my advice i would tell my fucking sibling anything i know about your partner yeah but like brothers and sister relationships are different like they really are okay still a sibling still your bud no it doesn't matter like what she was like if she was engaged period before like i would tell my fucking sibling i would tell them anything

    Yeah, like, I don't come to, like, the, the spouse should know, don't come to me as a safe place for your secrets because it's all going right back to to him.

    Do you think she's hiding it because he doesn't want her to know that she was engaged or she doesn't want him to know that she was engaged to a woman?

    Both?

    Hmm.

    I don't think it will change anything, but I do think that like

    partying.

    Now that I think about it, sorry, it's kind of like a crazy thing to keep from your husband that you're engaged.

    Yeah.

    Is it though?

    We all have a past.

    I don't know.

    Okay.

    Yeah.

    We all have a past, but like you share your story with your partner.

    It's not like you just meet someone and from that day forward, that really, that's all that matters truly.

    But like everyone has a history.

    And in order to know you, I need to know your history.

    Like in order to understand you.

    Yeah.

    Tell your freaking brother.

    Yeah, tell your brother.

    If you're close.

    Or like sometimes, you know, you're not that close, but like this is the sister you never had.

    Like

    decide, like, whose side do you want to take for life?

    or also you could just like be sneaky and you all get drunk on wine and you're like you're drunk and you're like and you let it slip

    like it's like you let it slip you're like where is she now and your brother's like who

    no i love that idea you're just like the crazy drunk younger sister

    the crazy drunk younger sister she gets in no trouble jackie the crazy drunk younger sister works every time

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