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Good morning, Millennials.
Welcome back to the Toast.
Happy Tuesday.
Hope everyone's having a absolutely stunning,
stunning day.
And speaking of stunning,
it's my girl.
It's like four different accents in one.
Jackie O.
Hey, Jackie O.
How you doing?
I'm dern good.
I just became immensely depressed when I realized it's only Tuesday.
Like, so sorry.
Not okay.
No, because that's the thing about the toast, and we say this all the time.
Like, we are going to let you know what day it is.
And sometimes that's a negative.
Sometimes it's like, oh my God, it's already Wednesday.
But then sometimes you're like, oh my God, it's only Tuesday.
I feel like nobody breaks down the days of the week quite like us.
No, and that's why we are like the top tier of what we do.
Everyone else tries, but nobody will ever like break down a week harder than Jackson Claude.
No, we live for it.
I'm surprised we don't wear undies that have the day of the week on them.
That's how much like the day of the week is part of our personalities.
Oh my gosh.
Gift idea.
I know what I'm getting you for Hanukkah.
Are you excited for Hanukkah?
I am.
I did Taylor Strecker's podcast yesterday and we were just talking about like, you know, what it's like to be a Jew during Christmas time and it was really funny.
And we were also talking about how, you know, there,
we as outsiders look at Christmas as like, oh my God, you know, holiday cheer, joy.
But I think when you're actually like celebrating Christmas, there's like, you know, torturous holiday things.
Like you have to spend so much money for all the gifts for all the people in your life.
Some Some people like hate spending time with their family.
Like it is, you know, I think Christmas is better as an outsider.
I've come to that conclusion.
So true.
And like if you do get someone a gift, it's because you just really wanted to and you saw something instead of having like a list of people that you have to buy gifts for.
But
conversely, it does mean that all those people have to buy gifts for you.
Right.
So that's what I was saying.
I'm like, people think like Hanukkah presents, you really age out of Hanukkah presents when you're 12.
Like you would open up, you know, maybe a toy each night.
You don't get like, you know, a Chanel scarf every night when you're an an adult there's no real hanuka presence you don't but once you become a parent hanuka sort of picks back up i'm not doing eight days of presents but i definitely am using it as an excuse to get some gifts for the kids
100 speaking of i sent you home from new york with a bunch of gifts for all the kids in florida and i haven't heard from levi and michaela's parents thus having me believe you haven't given them my gift yet.
I have not given them your gift yet because there hasn't been a gift exchange yet.
And now now since you're coming so soon and you will be here for a hanuka like maybe you just two birds one stone it wrap them up
and give them like a gift wrap it up maybe
maybe wrap it up um
i watched so much yellowstone last night where are you at and okay so um
They are still trying to figure out who like ordered the attack on all the dunes.
And they figured out it's this random guy in prison.
And then this guy's former prison cell was the guy Jamie is technically related to.
You know, it's his biological father.
And like the way Jamie is like so desperate for like any sort of companionship, he like moved in with this guy, even though he knows that this guy killed his biological mom, spent like tons of years in prison, is like not a good guy.
John Dutton told him he was like rotten to his core, but he like bought a house with him.
He's such a loser.
But for now, it seems his
loyalties are still with the Duttons.
Oh, and that political girly just came back with their son.
So I'm so glad we got to tie that up.
The baby was born.
Yeah.
I shall say nothing.
And I figured out last night, I don't know if you know this, do you know that Beth Dutton is British?
The actress?
No, I didn't know that.
Yeah, it was shocking.
I also, because I found out last night that Cameron from White Lotus, Aubrey Plaza's husband, is British.
And I was like, shook, because he did a really good accent.
And then someone else was like, did you know Beth Dutton is?
And I'm like, it's weirder to have a British person on Yellowstone than it is to have them on White Lotus.
100%.
They were traveling to Sicily.
Like there's British people everywhere.
Yeah.
I was shocked when I learned about Beth.
And then I, I, um,
I just googled Beth Dutton, Yellowstone British, and I just stumbled upon this interview that her and Rip did.
And Rip is so handsome in real life.
That's so crazy that they do interviews together and then one of them is British.
It's, it's like seeing a teacher out of school, seeing a dog walk on its hind legs.
It's just unnatural.
Yeah.
It's just unnatural.
So I'm glad you're enjoying.
You'll probably be caught up by the end of the week back where we all are, and then we can have an honest conversation.
An honest conversation.
Other things on my content plate that I really want to watch.
Real Housewives of Miami.
I've been hearing the craziest shit is going down between Lenny and Lisa.
There's like a hot mic moment.
It's on my list of things to do, I promise.
And the Fleischman show as well.
So that's, I'm like gearing up my content list for the holiday break.
You know, I think everyone should do that.
Yeah, I have a huge content list for break.
And hopefully over the two weeks that we're not doing the toast, by the time we come back, we have like so many TV recaps to do for you guys.
I went to start one of the many shows on my content list last night.
I was like, shall it be Wednesday?
Shall it be the Fleischmann's White Lotus?
And instead, I started a new book.
I just, I can't explain, I was not in the mood to like fall into a TV rabbit hole where I'd be like up till 3 a.m.
caring about a show.
No, let's talk about this because I saw your Instagram story and you're reading a book that's 28 hours long.
Now for context, if you don't read an average book, like Kindle will tell you how long it'll probably take you to read like a 300, 400 page book.
It's usually like six, maybe five hours.
27 hours?
First of all, what fucking book?
How many pages is that?
I think it's 700 something pages.
Or it's more.
No.
Or it's more because it's more.
I'm having a hard time finding the book on Goodreads because it came out in the 60s and when it came out, it was volume one and volume two.
And I can't tell if volume one has 700 pages, but the book I'm reading now, the Kindle version, they put it together into one book.
So
volume one had 700 pages.
Volume two had like 400 something.
So maybe it is like 1,100, 1,200 pages.
Well, also speaking of books, we have a brand new episode up on our Patreon that Jackie and I recorded.
It's our annual episode.
Every year we get together and just take a look at the year at a glance, talk about our favorite books that came out, movies, TV shows, songs, albums, just like, you know, the toast wrapped, if you will.
And it was a gorgeous episode.
It's available on the Patreon.
And I think you should go check it out.
I really do.
Yeah, it was so much fun.
It was so nice to like hear what you've been up to, what you were liking, and take recommendations from like your best of the best.
And our interests were so varied, which is so surprising.
That's what I was going to say.
In past years, the episodes have been much shorter because Jackie and I I have like the same top five for everything.
Maybe we rank them differently, but for the most part, we have the same top five.
And I feel like, yeah, this year, I feel like you really matured.
Obviously, like you had a child and you had all this free time on maternity leave and free time.
Sorry.
When you were pregnant.
Free time.
No, before, like, while you were pregnant, you had like so much TV you were watching.
And so you were like doing different things.
You know, you were becoming a mother, you were nesting.
And it was, you know, I've never felt further away from you.
Oh, McClurdial.
We're so distant.
Near,
far,
wherever
you are.
I'm kind of having like a sticky shoes moment.
You're having a Phoebe Buffet flu season moment because it is a fact that when you're sick, your voice is better.
It has this very erotic, very sensual,
my sticky, sticky shows.
I believe
that the heart will
go on.
Except I'm not having a raspy voice.
I'm having an easily voice, which is actually worse than my normal voice.
It's giving Janice from friends.
I don't know her.
It's giving annoying, sick bitch.
Yeah, no.
When I like listen to really old podcast episodes of ours, I really noticed.
That's what we sounded like all the time.
Yes, I noticed how much our voices have changed over the years.
And you would think, I would have thought that like my voice a couple of of years ago was like a little bit more New York and a little more obnoxious Valley girl.
No, we were like nasally as fuck.
Yeah, I wonder if that's youth.
What is that?
I don't know.
And how can one change it?
Like, can you change your voice?
No, you can change the way that you talk.
Maybe if I talked in a lower register?
Sexy.
If I spoke in a lower register, perhaps I would get more respect.
Perhaps, yeah.
You know, I, I, um, there is like a lot of, not a lot, there's like a few women out there who have like really, really deep voices.
And then you hear them talk, like a lot of people are always surprised by how Gigi Hadid's voice is because she has like a man voice.
Yeah.
This girl I went to camp with, Gabby Dector, she had a man voice and she like made it her whole personality.
She like loved it.
She really, she literally spoke like this.
It's so crazy.
It's so crazy.
What is that?
I wonder if you could get like a voice transplant.
You can't get a voice transplant, but I know if you take hormones, like if you're transitioning, your voice changes.
Maybe I should take hormones.
Maybe.
But you don't like your voice now.
No, I actually, my voice now is fine.
Doesn't bother me except when I'm sick.
No, sometimes, like, if like you'll hear like a recording of yourself, or like there's a video and you're in the background.
And then you actually, when you hear that, what you have to do is find the nearest cliff and jump off.
Jump.
Like there are certain, like when you're just like living your life, like not caring about anything, you'll stumble upon a recording of yourself that you hear hear your voice and it's so shrill and it so like goes to the center of your brain and you're like, Jesus fucking Christ, that's what I sound like.
I actually can't listen.
Like I actually physically can't.
Well, I actually watched our episode from yesterday, last night, because I just wanted to relive the beautiful moment.
And
our voices sounded gorgeous, but I was like on one yesterday with the cutting off.
It was really fucking annoying.
I had to assume maybe it was like the way I edited it.
Like maybe I didn't line up art because I was being really fucking annoying.
Oh, interesting.
I could barely watch the clips from yesterday because I look so I look and sound so sick.
It made me want to sneeze.
Totally.
I'm like constantly on the verge of a sneeze.
That's also the worst part of being sick is like the teasing of the sneeze.
Yeah.
No, but just even like looking at my face, especially in those reels, because you crop and we get kind of close up.
And I was weirdly zoomed in yesterday.
Like, oh, I meant to remind you, did you?
Of course I did.
I moved my camera back to like, get away.
You were so when I got your video yesterday, I'm like, Jesus Christ, like, literally, you're so fucking close to the camera.
So not necessarily.
And did you?
Did you like readjust or something?
No, I must have just like accidentally zoomed in at some point.
Yeah.
Anyways, I moved her back, but like under my nose is red.
And I just, it was making me like feel sicker.
So I couldn't really relive the highlights.
But that's what you get when you don't have sick days.
I wanted to relive the highlights.
I also just wanted to, there were such heated debates in our comment section about Megan and Harry.
Oh, I saw some of them.
What's so funny is like the
people who are mad at us for
like not liking it, for not going hard enough against him.
And then there's people who are mad for not being nice enough to him.
Like with these two, you actually cannot win.
There's no like thing that you could say
that would be one, interesting and two, please everyone.
Yeah.
So just say what you think.
No, so I actually thought like our
comment section yesterday was really reflective of us doing a good job because you're right.
People were mad we didn't go hard enough and then people were mad we went too hard.
So it's like, which is it, girly?
So I felt like that means we gave like a fair and balanced conversation about it.
Yeah.
And you're right.
You are like so polarizing.
I fully expect for my thoughts and feelings to change in a 180 degree direction when I watch the second half.
But I mean,
I'm not going imbiased.
I just think that, you know, up until the wedding, like, I have no issue with them.
Why would I have an issue with what they're showing?
It's everything that happens after.
So I, we shall see.
Also, I'm pretty sure I, I know I said this when we were talking about them visiting the army base.
Like, I know Harry was in the army in the U.K.
Like, of course.
Like, but I still don't see why, like, people in the U.S.
It just still feels random.
Military members of the U.S.
like care to meet and greet the two of them.
Yeah.
So I re-watched the episode.
You looked stunning.
Don't worry about it.
And today you look even more garage.
Gargeous?
It's 24 degrees in New York.
Wow.
It's, it is also a little chilly here.
Oh, please.
No, it's like I used to, I keep my house cold, so I used to go outside to warm up.
And now,
not
happening.
Not happening.
I cooked, we have like, by the way, I cooked the most delicious meal last night.
Like, it was so good.
I made like one of the Aina chicken,
just, you know, chicken in the pot sort of things.
It was so fantastic.
I had such a a hearty dinner i was just feeling so
hashtag proud speaking of that i will be you know in your home for a variety of days um i just want to make sure you're like stocked up on things because i fully expect a home-cooked meal every night i would like ina's chicken which one
engagement you want an engagement chicken Yeah, I don't really, by the way, I don't love that lemon chicken that you make of hers because I don't like lemon chicken.
Okay, great.
That's fine.
No, like I want like a roast chicken with mashed potatoes for one meal.
Okay, and if to book your flight so I know if you'll be here, if I should have dinner ready for you on Thursday, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, I'm Ben's offer is really rubbing off on me, like not booking a flight for Thursday,
and it's Tuesday.
I actually really need to do that.
I just
so I loved the mashed potatoes that I made for Thanksgiving.
I would make them again for you.
Do you like a chunky mash?
Skin?
No, you don't like chunky mash.
No, I like creamy, I like whipped, I like buttery, garlic, deliciousness.
Whipped, buttery, and I'm guessing no skin.
Get the fucking skin out of here.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
No skin.
No skin.
Not happening.
I feel like maybe, you know, a chili would be good for the weekend.
I don't know.
What have you made recently that I thought was like really delicious looking?
Ooh.
You had my meatballs.
Were you here for chicken parm?
No, I wasn't here for chicken parm.
You want chicken parm?
I would love chicken parm.
Okay, and you know, like, I'm leaving in the middle of your stay, so I'll leave some stuff in the freezer.
Like, chili is perfect in the freezer.
You can just put it on the pot.
Yeah, no.
And then, like, I don't want to make Olivia cook for me.
You know, she has like a newborn.
Right.
Okay, I'm so tailor.
I'm so excited.
You know, it'll be a fabulous weekend, and then we'll finally be together to record.
Well, not finally, we were just together.
We will be together to record the final episode of the year.
I'm going to try not to get emocional, but I don't know if you maybe missed yesterday's episode.
Friday is our last episode of the year.
We're back in the new year, two weeks off of the toast.
So you better enjoy your girlies while you still can.
Yeah, I feel like starting with yesterday's episode, I'm beginning to wrap my head around the fact that a year is coming to an end.
Yeah.
Which is important to take stock of your year.
You know what?
I think we average about 200 episodes a year, a little more.
This is actually our year with the least amount of episodes because we took a month off for my tour maternity leave.
So I think we'll probably round out about like 180, which is still so many.
Still so many.
It's crazy.
Plus Patreon.
Plus a baby.
Plus the most important thing in the entire world.
Roldini, Roldin, nay.
Roldini, Roldin, nay.
And you know what?
Let's talk about that.
Because I don't even know if I've properly told you and like really thanked you for bringing Rold into my life.
Like, I know you did it for you.
And like, I probably wasn't even a thought, you know, like, I'm not going to have this baby for my bitch sister.
Like, I know, like, it probably wasn't even a thought.
But the way I've never been the same, the way me and this child are so connected, so inextricably linked, I can't put into words the gratitude I feel.
I know it wasn't easy.
The nine months, the labor, the weaning, the breasts, the back, the sleepless nights.
I know.
And I know you didn't do it for me.
Nonetheless, I'm grateful.
Thank you so much.
And I really do think that your guys' connection is due in part to LC hosting the toast with you side by side for nine months.
Because am I crazier?
Like whenever Harry hears my voice on FaceTime or obviously then in person, he like, he knows me.
Like he always, he's like very, and I don't see him have that connection with counts.
No, not necessarily with the counts on a voice level.
No, I wouldn't say that.
On a voice level.
I wouldn't like so the second my face comes on FaceTime He like looks to the phone.
he's like oh that's my bitch well yeah he also just likes the excitement but i do think it's your voice
i i definitely think he heard you you know every morning getting together talking for an hour you know i talk all over you i yell i scream there's no way he didn't hear me yeah no that's what they say they really they can it makes sense it does make sense and i I also think that's why when toasters bring their like children to meet and greets and stuff, they have like newborns, the child is connected to me too.
Like they feel my energy because a lot of women listen while pregnant, listen in labor.
Like there's a lot of toasty reverberations
going to the uterine wall.
Because the toast respects new and expecting mamas.
And that's why you should get your thank you mamas merch at toastmerch.com.
You should.
What a great gift.
Stocking stuffer.
Stuff it in that stocking.
Let me ask you a question as a mother.
Bitch, I'm a mother.
No drama.
When somebody gets you a gift, but like it's for Harry, does it count?
Like
I brought you a gift.
It's just like any other gift.
Like, is it a good one?
Like, if someone gets me like a cute onesie for him, like, yeah, that, that is for me, too.
So you feel like you got a present?
Yeah, like, if you got me a bunch of stuff for Harry, I'd be like, oh, Claudia just got me a gift.
Like, let's say we weren't sisters.
I was coming to your house for a dinner party.
And like, you know, instead of getting you like a gorgeous vase, I was, I got you like this cute basket full of baby tings.
Like, do you feel like you got a present?
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
And I also feel that way as a gift giver, like if I'm shopping for Olivia or something, like maybe it's for Kayla.
Yeah, because like when I go to like stay at Brian's house, I used to bring like a gift for him, but now I just bring a gift for Dean.
And it's like, is that the same?
I think also there are gifts that are for
parent and baby.
Like you could get a really nice blanket and it's like, okay, I have to be seen with this blanket and that and it's
a nice, you know, blanket that fits my vibe, then it's like part of my outfit.
And I think it's then for both of us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel that.
Yeah.
But, you know, if it's a diaper, that is what it is.
No, no, it's not like a functional gift.
It's like something like decorative.
And we're like, fabulous, a diaper bag.
That's a reflection on me as well.
So I did want to tell everyone.
You told me before we have the weirdest stories.
Yeah.
But I feel like those make for the best episodes.
There's not like any breaking celeb news.
It's holiday season.
Celebs are starting to go on vacation.
We're not going to be getting like, that's why there's no toast.
Like eventually, like the celebrities turn off their publicists for two weeks so everyone can go home and enjoy.
Yeah.
Like we have done
maybe like almost 900 episodes of the toast in total, right?
Yeah, we're almost at a thousand.
And I can say with certainty that the characters in these five stories have never been discussed in an episode together.
I'm excited.
One, because I don't know them, but two, because the one that I do know is about the sister wives.
And that's a subject I'm extremely passionate about.
You are.
It's a Claudia Explains It All moment.
And I will.
And you know what?
I was reading the article because I wanted to be, you know, brushed up.
You will die if you know what I didn't, I haven't, I don't watch the new season.
I just like watch them in high school and I feel like a weird connection to them.
One of the sister wives is leaving and the base of their divorce is over COVID protocols.
You're going to die.
Ooh, I love that.
Like someone's being a Karen.
Oh my God.
But like three years later?
No, no, you'll say, you'll say.
I'll explain it.
Can't wait.
Yeah.
So now without further ado,
the Strice brothers will be reunited and in studio.
I don't care what we have to do to bribe them in here.
We will have a Stride A Friday, all hands on deck for the last episode of the end.
We will keep them there all night.
We will keep them there till four.
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First story, Kendall and Kylie Jenner poke fun at the Lisa Renna Kathy Hilton feud in Asphin.
So Kendall and Kylie are going viral in the Real House House community because they jokingly joined in on the Tequila Gate drama between their family friends, Kathy Hilton and Lisa Rinna, that infamously led to a falling out on the Real House House of Beverly Hills.
They filmed a TikTok video at Kimo Sabe in Aspen, Colorado, the same cowboy hat store where Rinna upset Kathy Hilton by ordering Kendall's 818 tequila rather than...
Kathy Hilton's Casa del Sol, which Hilton had attempted to promote throughout a cash trip.
The audio says, I just want to try it because it's my friend friend Kendall Jenner's tequila, so I haven't tried it.
They recreated the scene in their video as a bartender poured each of them a glass of 818.
And then the bottles on the shelf now have like tags that say Kendall's tequila and Kathy's tequila.
Yeah, it was really funny, albeit, you know, a little delayed.
But
they're not going to go to Aspen to film it, but the fact that they're in that same hat store.
They could have used the sound like before.
Like Kendall could have like made a cocktail with it.
But I do appreciate the authenticity of them actually actually being in aspen at chemo sabe i recognized it immediately and when i saw that it was from kendall jenner's account i'm like what is going on it was like dystopic i loved it but i also kind of hated that like they're acknowledging lisa reda because that's like exactly what she wanted and like sorry lisa that article said lisa and kathy are both family friends say that no they're not kathy is the family friend
Yeah, Lisa's just like a thirst monster in Hollywood who maybe they run into sometimes.
Yeah, but it's crazy that Kendall's tequila was such a big storyline in Real House.
I had yet to address it.
And now I'm just glad that she knows about it and maybe they watch the show
channel maybe they watch the show maybe they don't uh
but this was like you know the not the um
sweet life of hannah mantana on deck like it was the crossover we all needed that is literally the perfect comparison
it was cute kylie um
seems to be having a really fun time in Aspen.
This is like the time of year when like all the slugs go to Aspen and it's like a hot spot.
And I feel like we'll be getting some good content.
Yeah, I feel like Kylie is never where everyone else is.
And I actually feel like her being in Aspen right now is still like not, it's not Christmas and New Year's, like it's before.
Yeah.
And I love that for her.
All the girls have been quiet.
I feel like they're going through a rough patch because
of Balenciaga gate and it's like affecting everything.
It's just, it's been like a series of unfortunate events for them.
What else?
After, no, it's just been like, you you know, Kanye doesn't reflect great on that.
Okay, but I don't.
And I don't believe in blaming, I do not believe in blaming other people for other people's actions, but it's like his, it's his family and they really never have said anything about it.
And like, it's a little, you know,
then the Balenciaga thing.
And then I just feel like it's like this general, at least for me, like it's this general fatigue.
I feel like they're sensing that and they're just like being quiet for a while.
Cause, you know, up until like maybe a month or two ago, it was a stellar year for the girlies.
Yeah.
I think they're laying low.
For me, it's only the Balenciaga thing.
And that doesn't affect the way that I see,
what's her name?
Kylie.
Kylie, Kendall,
Chloe.
Like, it's really just Kim for me.
And I just feel like Kim keeps posting like all this mindless shit, thinking that, like, that's usually a good PR strategy.
Like, it's what Ariel Tarnis did.
Like, it is.
Good, like, just keep the conversation going.
But, like, everything she posts, I'm just like,
what about Balenciaga?
Yeah, no, totally.
Um,
I think a lot of people also, like, for us, like, we're like staunch defenders.
So, I feel like I wasn't getting bothered by shit that they were doing,
but I know a lot of people were very put off by the Astra world.
Oh,
yeah,
and rightfully so.
I mean, like, I'm a Kylie defender, but like, even I was like, you know, yeah, yeah, no, but so I'm saying if we're, like, if we're feeling this way,
right, I imagine it's much worse.
And I think, I think think they're taking note.
Like, I really do feel like they're much more pulled back.
I think it's also the holiday time.
Like, they're like done working for the year.
They're on vacations.
Kim was just posting somewhere in the ocean.
So they've been quiet.
And I think that's for the best.
Sometimes, you know, you just need a break.
Yeah.
But if you're going to come out, make it with a viral TikTok that we can't deny is fantastic.
We can't ignore.
Yeah.
So that's what the girlies are up to.
My friend Kendall Janner,
are you ready for our next next story?
Captain Lee has been forced to exit below deck.
He said this has been one of the most humbling experiences of his life.
Captain Lee Rossbach is disembarking from below deck.
The Bravo personality announced his exit on Monday's episode, informing his crew that persistent health issues meant he'd need to bow out of season 10 early.
He was admittedly struggling with nerve issues when he boarded the motor yacht St.
David at the start of the charter season, but he hoped his symptoms would subside over time.
Instead, he shared in a confessional interview, quote, my injury, it's getting worse.
The left side of my body, I don't feel anything.
I expected a lot more progress than I'm experiencing, and the most frustrating part about it is I can't do a goddamn thing about it, and it's hard.
Later, he told the chef that this has probably been one of the most humbling experiences of my life.
As the episode went on, he realized he had to consider that his health concerns might have an impact on the whole boat.
Quote, the pain's getting worse, not better.
I owe it to my crew to do right by them.
They expect that out of me.
There comes a point if a captain is really really being objective, he should be putting the best interests of his crew first because that's your primary responsibility.
As soon as you step on board, check your fucking ego at the dock.
That's where you leave it.
Then he called in all hands
and made the decision to leave the boat.
And obviously, it's so much more than leaving the boat.
He's leaving the show.
And he's really the backbone of this show.
I think like so much of the success of
Below Deck has to do with like people loving Captain Lee and like his no bullshit energy.
And I remember I watched Below Deck in the very beginning, and they had another girly come after Captain Lee and she never made it.
And then they ended up with Captain Sandy, who's great, but like Captain Lee was really like the OG captain.
This is very sad.
I do think the show will suffer.
Captain Sandy is great, but she only does half of the shows, you know?
Yeah, they have to bring in someone to replace Captain Lee for the other half of the shows.
I think they have very big shoes to fill.
Hopefully, Captain Lee can recommend a fellow captain who he respects and who he also thinks, you know, America would respect.
Right, because Captain Lee is like also a really popular Bravo Liberty.
Like they loved him at BravoCon.
And I'm sure he'll actually stay involved in stuff like that.
But,
you know, the body
is an important thing to have, you know.
I don't like the way I started that sentence.
Sorry.
You know, you need to be...
healthy for a job as physical as being a boat captain.
You know, you're outside all day roping and swinging and lassoing.
So what you're saying is you need to listen to your your body.
And it appears as though Captain Lee is listening to the influencers and he's listening to his body.
And for that, we have to respect him and just be happy.
Yeah, I feel like Captain Lee 10 years ago, if you had told him like you are going to be a bravo liberty,
he would have like laughed in your face.
It's so improbable how, like, this man, he's so serious, he takes his job so seriously, which is why we love him.
But the course and he's like a yacht veteran.
No, and he's not, he's not like thirsty.
No.
The course that his career took, I'm sure, was just as unexpected for him as it seems to us.
It's a fascinating transition.
It is.
But I'm ready.
I want like a Captain Lee.
They don't need to break the mold with the next guy, like Captain Lee clone.
Carbon copy, like a really serious, someone who, like, you know.
With a soft heart.
Yeah, but someone who takes yachting very seriously.
I sometimes feel like Captain Sandy's a little too soft.
Yeah, she's always partying with the guests.
No, she's not, but like people are always getting in trouble and like, it's fine.
You know, Captain Lee, it's like you get maybe one strike.
He runs a tight fucking ship.
And also it's like, okay.
And that's why people respect him.
This is a reality show.
It's all fun and games.
But you are on this behemoth on the water and someone needs to keep you safe.
So it has to be the reality show captain.
Right.
And I do feel like Captain Lee makes sure that, of course, like the shit, the people are working and they're making content for the TV show, but like really the safety of the guests on board is his number one priority.
Like I, I believe that.
Yeah.
So I think that it's going to be hard to find, you know, a non-thirsty captain at this point, but I think that they could do it.
There are so few.
I would hope that there aren't, you know,
considering how many lives are at stake.
Yeah.
So would you ever do below deck like as a guest?
If I could take out the element of me being a bathing suit, like just set that aside.
No, no, no it's a real element not unless i lose 100 pounds no
no like for me
one what i found really interesting is we had been asked once like i have an email about it somewhere you have to pay for the
apply
yeah you have to you have to pay for the charter um and i think for like a
four day five-day charter it was like 60 grand which is still a shit ton of money but it's a major discount for a boat like that in that part of the world so you get a discount because you're going to be fucking tortured Um,
so one, I don't know if I would want to pay that amount of money to like not enjoy a vacation.
Two,
I definitely don't want to be on TV in a bathing suit, like kill me.
Three, sometimes, not all the time, the guests become a part of the storyline.
They become villainized for being difficult.
And we are not difficult.
I actually think we would come off great, like we would be fun.
And we also like, we wouldn't make them like blow up the water.
Like, we just want to lay out and like drink, eat.
Yeah, but then they make it like these guests are so boring and they're lazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I do think they would villainize us.
So that's another reason I wouldn't want to do it.
I actually, if I could be comfortable, like with how I looked, you know, if I just happened to be feeling myself and I could, you know, not be wearing, and also I'm not going to be in a bathing suit.
Like, I'll be wearing a cover-up.
Okay.
Calm down.
Cover-up.
Of course.
And then, you know, maybe we have like a mysterious benefactor who's willing to come with us and like pay for a lot of it.
And we just have to like pay what a normal vacation would cost.
Right.
TVG.
Right.
Right.
By the way, he has been asked as well.
Of course, his episode would actually be great.
He's like a travel expert.
Those two big things, like, I don't have to worry about them in a major way.
I actually think it would be great.
One, it would be great for the toast.
Of course.
Like, it would be so exciting for the toasters who love Below Deck.
And like, we would podcast on the boat and make them like film us.
Right.
Like, well, not even for that, but like for the, like, even if they never mentioned who we are and what we do, like, the toasters who watch the show really justly like would love to see us on it.
And I don't worry about coming off poorly, like, because i think we're pleasant like i will the only uh
specificity that i have is like meat you know and that's the only thing that we're uh particular about
i've thought about that too because like before every guest comes on they sit with like a full sheet of paper on like their dietary restrictions and we would probably have to like ship meat from america or from like the nearest nearest kosher butcher um and they'd be like what is this right right so they would probably make that a thing but like okay make yourself look anti-semitic Go ahead.
Yeah, no, you do you, Blowjack.
You do you.
But otherwise, like, and then if they were, if they did, like, drum up drama and make us look terrible, but like, I had no personal issue with how I behaved and I like
didn't act a fool, like, that's fine.
Make your show.
No, also, a lot.
A lot of the drama is like them complaining about food.
And as previously discussed, like, I would rather jump off the boat than ever send anything back or complain about my food.
Like, I'll just swallow it or like feed it to Theo.
So I think we're good.
Yeah, no, I think we would have, one, it would be an amazing vacation.
I think we would have a good time.
And it would be good for the business.
Like, wait, also, Jackie, you're forgetting.
You get seasick.
You can't go on a boat.
No, but I've been on boats before, and I just have a
system.
Like, I do the C-bands, I do drama mean, and then, like, if towards, if it gets worse, there are patches that you can, like, put on your neck that like are magic
and zofran and zofran.
So, I, I, I could do it.
And for the workaholic for the toes, workaholic,
totally.
So, I'm, I'm open to it, but the first piece has to just be the.
Somebody has to pay for it and they have to get liposuction.
Yeah.
Right.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
But you never know.
Never say.
Like, I don't think it's the worst idea.
I don't say either.
It actually makes sense.
And it reminds me of say yes to the dress.
Like, even though you have such negative things to say about it and you're...
you hate so many things about it, I think ultimately, like, it's amazing that you did it.
It's like this funny fact.
Also, so many people this week.
If I could go back in time, say yes to the dress.
Right.
Like, if I could go back in time, I wouldn't take it back.
Right.
But I would change a few things, like getting my mole removed.
Right.
Would you change anything about the way that you acted?
Like, no, they made a storyline.
Yeah, we acted cute.
We were fun.
We were not being difficult.
I just said, like, as any normal human being would, like, what kind of dress are you looking for?
I'm looking for long slaves.
Oh, she's looking for long sleeves.
You have to do that.
Let them do it.
Right.
You got to let them start.
And then
don't get me started on the girl from Louisiana.
Like, please.
Right, right, right.
No, but, like, see, they manufacture stuff.
So you, at a certain, as long as, like, you feel good that you were, like, you're a good person and that you treated everyone with respect, like, let them do their TV magic.
Yeah.
No, that's fair.
Are you ready for our next story?
A little posthumous drama because Leonard Cohen's kids are in a battle over the singer's $48 million estate.
Now, Claudia, for anyone who doesn't know who Leonard Cohen is, could you grace and she tied you to your kitchen chair, she broke your throat, she cut your hair, and from your lips she drew the hallelujah
hallelujah
hallelujah
hallelujah
hallelujah
Yeah.
I really should go on the Mask Singer.
You really should.
And you guys might know that song from Shrek.
It's just a beautiful
song.
Dead.
Dead.
Also, by the way, there are actually a lot of songs like I exclusively know from Shrek.
I need a hero.
I'm looking out for a hero till the end of the night.
He's got to be strong and he's got to be smart and he's got to be son of night.
Also,
hey now, you're an all-star.
Get your game on.
Go play.
So good.
So good.
Anyways, Leonard Cohen, there is a lot of drama surrounding his estate.
So he passed away
in 2016.
And in the years before his passing, he worked to secure most of his multi-million dollar estate for the benefit of his heirs.
He has two children named Lorca and Adam.
It's a battle that includes accusations of forgery, secrets, and allegations that the singer didn't trust his own offspring to run his estate.
Because before he passed, he did have a trustee
in charge of his estate.
The trustee is named Robert Corey.
The trust controls tens of millions of dollars in royalties for his music, as well as poetry, novels, photographs, and 243 journal notebooks that he had when he died, that he had started since he was a teenager and he passed away at 82.
The so-called Lennon Cohen, Leonard Cohen archive is valued.
Okay.
It's a lot of words.
Leonard Cohen archive is valued at more than $48 million.
Court filings say.
Wow.
Leonard Cohen passed away unexpectedly after a fall in his home in the middle of the night.
So if he had any loose ends to tie up with his estate, he did not have a chance to do them.
The children say that their father came to appreciate in his waning days that he had made a grave error by allowing this guy to insinuate himself into Leonard's affairs and take control over virtually every aspect of Leonard's finances and legacy, court papers say.
The kids claim that they have not been kept appraise by this trustee, Corey, of recent efforts to monetize his estate, including the posthumous publication of a Cohen novel called A Ballet of Lepers, published earlier this year, and the opening of Everybody Knows, which is an exhibit at Toronto's Art Gallery of Ontario, which opens to the public on Tuesday.
So they are, oh my God, so so who do we believe, by the way?
Like, do we believe the kids?
I'm inclined to believe the kids.
plus there are allegations that um one of the documents is forged that would that put uh this guy on the trust instead of the kids
so that needs to be looked at i would need to like go over leonard's relationship with his kids over the years you know but i feel like this is something it's giving colonel tom
parker parker from elvis like there are managers and just like biz people who take advantage of their clients especially elderly clients
and exploit the estate.
But I do want to say this case of exploiting the estate is a book and an art exhibit.
Like, sounds okay.
Right.
I don't know.
Toronto Film Festival, an exhibit called Everybody Knows.
Everybody knows.
Sounds pretty respectful.
Honestly, sounds very classy.
Right.
It's not like they're, you know, starting, he's not in Sing 3.
Leonard Cohn takes
a hologram tour, a holographic tour around the country.
Of Leonard Cohn doing slam poetry as a hologram.
Sin, the Us.
Jesus died for our sin, the Us.
No, like, there are so many more tacky ways this guy.
So at least he's in some small way respecting the legacy and not just totally destroying it.
Yeah.
Also, fun fact is that in the copious notes that are part of his archive, they have the original version of hallelujah, which is 82 verses.
It's giving god too well 10 minute version
i fucking love that song it's not a cry that you hear at night it's not someone who's seen the light it's a cold remember when carly rose son and clair sang that song on x factor and like literally nobody was okay no we were not okay
and she had like gospel choir and she wore a big white dress and it was like really moving no i need to go watch that after the episode and she did like these harmonies That's what I was just trying to do, but I fucked it up.
It was like really beautiful.
That's that's gorgeous.
I've seen your flag on the marble arch, and love is not a victory mark.
Like, what does that song even mean?
Honestly, every time I sing it, it's like one of my go-to songs of my repertoire.
The lyrics are not fucking English.
Okay, I've seen your flag on the marble arch and love is not a victory march.
It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah.
Like the fuck.
Okay, let me look up the lyrics.
Because maybe it's part of a larger story.
You have to go in order.
Baby, i've been here before i know this room i've walked this floor i used to live alone before i knew you oof that is that makes sense chilling yeah i've seen your flag on the marble arch but listen love love is not some kind of victory march no it's cold and it's ever a broken hallelujah
i'm not understanding i've seen your flag on the marble arch maybe it's like you see the flag on the arch which it would signify like the end of victory march but there's no end end with love.
Like, it's an ongoing thing.
It's a broken heart.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, it's not just like there's a finish line with love.
You know what?
I actually need like an a 10th grade English class.
Remember how we used to just sit and like decipher this dumb old shit?
Yeah.
And like, nobody cared because we were too young to appreciate it?
That's what I need with the song.
Yeah.
Beautiful stuff.
Check it out for yourselves.
Let us know what you think Halloween means in the comments.
I hope those those Cohen kids, you know, figure that out.
I do hope justice is served because I, when this sort of stuff happens, it's horrible.
Like someone's legacy, especially posthumously.
Like, he's not here to speak for himself and to take advantage.
And also, it's like his work isn't garbage.
Like, it's so meaningful.
It's like.
religious almost.
And
it's different than like someone who, you know, is singing someone else's words.
Like, this is his heart and soul.
And so for it tastes like a true artist.
Yeah, for it to be mishandled in any way is really appalling.
No, and the Colonel Tom Parker comparison is a great one.
Yeah, but like Elvis didn't write all of his own songs.
You know, he sang a lot of other people's songs.
Nothing makes it any different or whatever.
But it's like, this is like, it's also different when it's like someone's poetry.
Like, does it get more personal?
No.
Poetry.
Poetry is more personal than comedy.
And poetry is more personal than food.
I would actually say, like, right now, in thinking about it, poetry, I think, is the most personal thing I've ever thought of.
No, it's a deeply like personal thing.
We should keep a list of the most personal things in order.
Okay, because we have poetry, obviously, food, comedy, and travel.
I would go poetry,
comedy,
food,
travel.
Poetry, comedy, food, travel.
And then don't forget about reading books.
I would put that above travel.
I think travel is so personal.
Like some person might want to go hike Machu Picchu and another person might want to lay on the beach and for those two people, like the other sounds like torture.
So Jackie, everything on this list is personal, but something has to be lost.
So true.
And you know what?
They're so personal that I think even the ranking list is different.
I agree.
Personal ranking lists are more personal than comedy, travel, poetry.
And you know what else is so personal?
Podcasts.
What do you want to spend your time with?
I want to spend my time with Jax and Claude, those gorgeous girlies.
Agreed.
And you know what?
That's just a universal truth.
Ain't that the truth?
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I really hope that the sister wives story is next.
It is.
Sister Wives.
Janelle and Cody Brown split after almost 30 years of marriage.
Sister Wives stars Janelle and and Cody Brown shocked viewers following Sunday's season finale of the TLC reality series.
In a trailer for the upcoming one-on-one specials, the former spouses confirmed that they are currently separated after nearly 30 years of marriage.
They tied the knot in 1993 and share six adult children together.
The split comes after a very tense year for the Brown family in the wake of Christine Brown's divorce from Cody and her decision to move away from Flagstaff, Arizona to Utah.
The split put a strain on Janelle's marriage to Cody as she continued to spend time with Christine and her kids, but there were many other factors that that affected the pair's marriage, especially in more recent years.
So, one of the big things that affected their marriage was COVID protocols.
In February 2021, Cody told Entertainment Tronite, quote, Janelle and I, I think, are in a good place.
COVID has put a real strain on our time together, but we've survived times like this in the past.
There's no trouble in paradise.
Janelle agreed at the time, saying, Cody and I have definitely had challenges this year because we've had to spend more time apart than we ever have, probably.
So it's definitely something I've had to think about and realize I still like him and want him around.
So that was kind of nice.
We've been married almost 30 years.
More time apart than ever.
Who?
In COVID.
But anyways, that's no, because they all live in separate houses.
Got it.
But that's changed as the wives started pointing out that some of Cody's hypocrisy when it comes to his COVID protocols.
This past season of Sister Wives,
he officiated an indoor wedding without quarantining afterward, despite forcing his wives to quarantine from him if they traveled anywhere.
And Sunday's final.
Right.
So he essentially, like for his family, he's like the patriarch.
He makes all the rules.
He had these really strict COVID restrictions in place for his family that everyone had to follow, except for him.
Right, right.
So he would officiate a wedding and then not quarantine.
Cody told Janelle he didn't feel supported by her when it came to his COVID restrictions, which she took offense to.
She said, Cody's acting like I was a COVID denier.
I was not a COVID denier.
I followed all the CDC rules.
I wore a mask.
I washed my hands.
I was careful.
I'm vaccinated for crying out loud.
I don't have to stand here and defend myself.
I don't have to be beaten into submission.
Now, that's fucking
Cody,
like trying to gaslight his wife into like being a COVID denier.
Like you're literally not even following your own motherfucking rules.
Yeah, it is.
Rules for, but that's so, that's so Cody, Jackie.
Like you don't understand.
Like rules for everyone except for him.
Like that is so Cody too.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
It's so hypocritical and I like love that they're calling him out.
And obviously, that's not why you break up a marriage, but no, but I think it reveals something about a person's personality.
One, to have like such draconian restrictions like in your own house when we're almost three years up and like, that's fucking psychotic.
Yeah.
And two, to not even apply them to yourself.
Like, no, if you're going to talk the talk, you should walk the walk.
And I think this is just a glimpse into probably some other insane sort of ways to live his life.
I mean, aside from being a polygamist.
Polygamist, right.
But
I also think Christine leaving, who was the first wife who left, was like a major move.
I think like she really gave Janelle the courage.
And you know what?
I think I said this the last time.
If I
wait, did Mary also leave?
You would know.
No.
But if I would have, if I would have guessed any one of them to leave when I used to watch a show, it would have been Janelle.
That's what you said last time.
Right.
So I feel like she's probably been having like a, like, not a great time for a while, but then they got this TV show and life was good and they were making a lot lot of money from it and they're famous so
i think that definitely prolonged the marriage but then seeing christine who i never would have guessed christine i i thought christine was his favorite so seeing christine go probably gave her the courage and i won't be surprised if mary goes next i don't know why i feel like mary and him got divorced I'm not sure.
But also in a recent episode, one of the sons tearfully recounted Cody calling him on his birthday and proceeding only to discuss COVID and forgetting his son's birthday in October 21.
The son said that they haven't spoken since.
He's literally obsessed with COVID.
What the fuck is that?
And like COVID has turned into a mental illness for a lot of people, like not being able to let go of it.
Move past it.
And I don't know how you could stay married to someone like that who can't even remember his son's birthday because he's so caught up with COVID.
Okay, so now Sister Wives is just Mary, who's the OG wife, Robin, the last most recent wife, and Cody Brown.
And fans are, according to this TV show.com, fans are rejecting sister wives, just starring Mary Robin and Cody.
I mean, it's just, it's a thruple.
It's not sister wives.
Okay, but it's more than one.
Yeah.
But you know, I think that Robin was really the,
she shook up the whole family.
I don't know if all these divorces would have happened if they didn't, like years later, marry Robin.
I think she was this young, hot thing.
They had kids together.
I think it was, I think it was toxic.
Also, I saw in the article that like he didn't want to be losing Robin's house.
So, he was, like, wanted one of the other women to buy the house.
They felt like she was being used just to like secure the house.
Like, I just don't feel like they feel cared about, which is like shocking.
No, he, like, literally, like, it was really with Robin.
It was like a shiny new thing.
And they had kids together, and it was like very much newlyweds.
And the other women, they were married for 20 years at that time.
Like, it was, it was a slap in the face.
Yeah.
So.
But you know what?
Happy for Janelle.
Honestly, Christine was always my favorite.
So like, she's out.
and I'm glad Mary is
Mary was the first and honestly she was the most forgotten about and she like was so desperate for his attention and love.
It was actually sad.
And the fact that she's still there is
reigns true.
Yeah.
There's a lot that co-ops.
It's like a partner being so like financial stuff, something with an RV and a coyote changing dynamics with, you know, the way that the marriage was changing.
Just like most divorces, you know, it's not just one thing.
One thing.
No, and then they were like always on the run because they're literally like living in sin.
Yeah.
I also think in reading this, like COVID gave him an excuse to spend more time with one person than another.
Yes.
And that's probably why he kept these protocols in place.
Otherwise they would be like, well, you can go from house to house.
We're not seeing other people.
It's my night tonight, Cody.
But that doesn't work if
he doesn't tell people even about COVID.
It's not even about COVID.
He's just using like fake quarantine to manipulate
harder.
Yeah, And be like, I could spend more time with Robin.
I have to quarantine here.
Sorry.
Yeah.
And then Robin left him because she had too much fucking time with him.
She's like, get the fuck out of my face.
Robin didn't leave.
Robin didn't leave.
Robin is the one I think he likes the best.
And honestly, Mary is on her way.
Robin's the one who was spending the most time with.
Oh, so she's still around.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
He loves Robin.
Robin's the one you're the most recent addition.
Yeah.
Robin's the most recent addition.
Cool.
So now his remaining wives are Mary and Robin.
Mary was the first wife ever, and Robin was the last.
And Mary's probably like, you know, some girls are like, let him get it out of his system.
It's like 30 years of polygamy.
Let's get it out of the system.
Only one, two down, one to go.
I think Mary is honestly just happy to still be here, honestly.
Like Mary is and always was like desperately seeking attention from Cody.
Sad.
Yeah.
Okay, well, are you ready for our fifth and final story?
Yes, ma'am.
Dictionary.com has chosen their 2022 word of the year.
I hope it's better.
What was Merriam-Webster's?
We just reported on it.
Just it.
Hold on.
What was true?
We need to find it.
Webster's.
What?
Gaslight.
Wait, Jackie, stop talking.
I can't hear.
Gaslight.
Gaslight, gaslight.
Okay.
So I'm so curious which
trend you would prefer here.
Because dictionary words.
Oh, that's a trendy word.
No, actually, it's the least trendy word ever.
It is woman.
What?
Dictionary.com has selected the word woman as its word of the year for 2022.
People can exclusively reveal.
The word was selected in.
Not dictionary.com getting political.
Well, it's selected for a number of reasons.
One, because it's typical that the word of the year is something that has been searched more than normal.
And
the volume of people searching the definition of the word woman has increased exponentially.
I think doubled over the last 12 months.
So the senior director of editorial at dictionary.com said woman and its definition were both at the center of various consequential moments, discussions, and decisions in our society in 2022, leading them to the selection.
Selecting woman as our word of the year, he says, provides an acknowledgement of the gravity of the various events affecting women in 2022.
From our perspective as observers and recorders of language change, the word woman is a prime example of the many gender terms undergoing shifts in how and to whom they're applied.
okay so I think it was it's a number of things one more people searched it than ever because I think also this like question of like what is a woman has been trending all year so I think that led a lot of people to just ask dictionary.com right I think they're also
by the way what is the definition of woman you know what I actually did the same thing when I was
looking I was like what is the dictionary definition it is adult female person a female employee or representative that's like that's like using the word in a definition.
Yeah, no, a woman is a woman.
And then, so then I was like, okay, so what's a female?
Right, what's a female?
A female is relating to or being a woman or a girl.
Oh, my God.
Not them sending us in circles
of relating to or being a person with a certain combination of sex characteristics, commonly including two X chromosomes in the cell nuclei of vagina, a uterus, and ovaries, and enlarged breasts developed at puberty.
Oh, well, then I'm a woman today.
I'm real.
Enlarged breasts.
I am woman.
Hear me roar in numbers too big to ignore.
Okay, well, that's definitely different than gaslight, even though, you know, women's favorite activity is gaslighting.
That's definitely one of my favorite activities.
They are
similar, inextricably linked.
That's so funny.
And then also, you know, they're taking their stance in support of women.
You know, I appreciate that.
I am a woman, and I've actually felt like in recent years that dictionary.com didn't have my back.
And now that I kind of have concrete proof that dictionary.com does in fact have my back, I am
changes everything.
Changes everything.
Nothing will ever be the same.
No, it won't.
Do you want to hear what the runner-ups were?
Sure.
The Ukraine flag emoji.
It's not a word.
That would have been
so terrible if they chose that.
That's how you cannot choose an emoji as a word.
that would be like the end of language.
You would think that dictionary.com would know that an emoji is not a word.
And that they would be scrupled.
And I would also think that dictionary.com would be like a little anti-emoji because I do think people use emojis as like sort of a crutch in place of
language.
Yeah.
So that was disappointing.
Obviously, I'm glad they didn't choose it, but the fact that it could have been an emoji
that's literally so stupid.
I actually have a question for for you, but I'm going to give you the rest of the shortlist.
The word inflation,
facts, that is what the year was about, yeah.
Facts, quiet quitting.
Oh, that's like a thing.
It's a trend.
I'm actually not familiar with it.
Also, I don't know how to tell them this.
That's two words.
I know
they're language experts.
They're not math experts.
Can't expect them.
That's for math.com.
Can't expect them to know both.
Yes, not fair.
Another option was
Great.
Always important.
Always.
And Wordle, which was added to the dictionary in 2022.
Another one that would have been an insane disappointment, especially since Wordle was relevant for one whole month.
For one day.
One day it was a good month.
It was the last month of my maternity leave, and then I gave birth and I never played again.
I actually sometimes remember Wordle as a thing, and I just like do it.
But
I wish I kept up with it.
It's actually like a fun thing.
There's been too many, ever since the New York Times bought it, there's been too many like clerical errors where two words work or you can't get the word.
And it wasn't like that before, before he sold out.
No, also, when the New York Times bought it, it ruined all the fun.
Like at first, it was just, you know, people coming together and now there's corporate greed.
Yeah.
And it wasn't, it wasn't the vibe.
And I'm sorry, like, Wordle isn't a big enough of a thing for it to become a word.
Like, Google has now, after 30 years of dominance in the space, and it is a verb.
It is a word.
And it's a noun.
No.
Obviously.
And honestly, the fact that the New York Times bought it and didn't like immediately release an app then we would all remember if we got a notification every day like kind of like be real like it was we could it's it wasn't even world.com you would have to google wordle and then like it was just too hard yeah so i don't even think it deserves to be in the dictionary as a word it was a flea ignorant and there's just always it was a trend trying they're always everyone's so thirsty like can't anyone just like do their jobs and and take the internet out of it
yeah no they can't but i i wish they would especially fucking dictionary.com you would think no but dictionary.com is like kind of like cheesy and tacky and like poor man poor man's version of merriam website yeah and like dictionary.com doesn't have like a physical dictionary right
yeah i would actually i would expect this type of like moronic sophomoric behavior from dictionary.com but i expected better from merriam yeah or like oxford
right oxford would never
never
okay my question for you is, what would you say is your emoji of the year?
Who fucking cares?
I do.
What would was your most used emoji this year or emoji that sums up your feelings?
Honestly, it would just be like the money flying away
because I feel like I was like grinding so hard this year, but it's like I can't keep up, you know?
You can't keep up.
Yeah.
My favorite emoji, I think this is two two years running is the one that's like that that face that connotes yikes it's like a yeah like squiggly mouth squiggly mouth and like one eye red yeah
that's mine
um
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