The Fast Foive: Tuesday, November 29th, 2022

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    Welcome back to the toast and happy

    Tuesday.

    Happy

    Hooves Day.

    Tuhoos Day.

    Hope everyone's having a great Tuesday Tuesday thus far.

    Hey, Jax, how you dern?

    I'm dern good.

    I have one thing to say.

    Howdy.

    Howdy.

    Howdy, Cloudy.

    Jax and I are both wearing sweaters today from Show Me Your Moo Moo.

    Like, not that

    they haven't, but like, they should sponsor the show because they basically do.

    No, and we talk about how much we love their stuff.

    And they actually did reach out to...

    Send us some stuff, but we still keep placing orders.

    No, like, what else am I supposed to wear?

    Yeah, and it's like, I don't have the time to like wait for the email exchange.

    Like, I just want, I want my order.

    My nose now.

    Literally.

    Literally.

    I actually just got a huge haul from them.

    I got this howdy sweater.

    Also, they have a matching sweater for babies that says howdy, and it's white with sad beige writing.

    So it's girl or boy.

    So I got one for Harry too.

    So when you come, you'll have to bring your sweater.

    We can all be matching.

    Oh my God.

    I'm going to die.

    That's so cute.

    And I got some bathing suits and trying them on was

    enlightening.

    Upsetting.

    Upsetting.

    It was enlightening to see oneself in a new bathing suit.

    I just feel like

    bathing suits are really

    like unnecessary.

    Well, not for you because you really swim.

    For me, they're really not necessary.

    I don't swim.

    I maybe swim like twice on a vacation, like the nights I'm going to wash my hair and that's it.

    That's true.

    I am a swimmer, but that's not what I meant.

    I meant like the concept that we have to swim and sunbathe in the nude is kind of like fucked.

    Like, why can't we all just be wearing like leotards like down to our ankles?

    Well, I do feel like rash guard bathing suits are kind of really in right now, like long sleeve bathing suits and also ones that have like a little short.

    Short.

    Maybe that's in the future for you.

    I just find the bathing suit industry to be like extremely triggering

    and just a really unnecessary corporate moment.

    I feel like the bathing suit industry is really missing something, and that's recognition that people have

    big titties and that you can have big titties that aren't fake.

    And so what you need is support.

    It's not that everyone either has fake titties or is flat chested.

    Like where are the bathing suit tops and even One Pieces because One Pieces have no support.

    You might as well just put an invisible string on and walk into the sea.

    But where are the bathing suits that have support?

    Like I want a bathing suit top.

    That's my bra in scuba material.

    That's it.

    That's all I want.

    I'm not asking for anything.

    No, I completely agree.

    And like, I don't know what

    world people are living in that, like, bathing suits still come with pads.

    Like, we don't need pads.

    No, we don't.

    And I just feel like there's so many different bathing suit companies that are targeted for like different body types.

    There's literally none for big-breasted women except like shout out to Miracle Swim, which is like literally bathing suits.

    Or maybe Miracle Swim.

    And not everyone wants to wear a miracle swimsuit.

    No, because like low-key, most of them are ugly and they're literally $200 for a one-piece, but like they're built really well.

    They're made of like literal like elastic.

    Like they're so tight on your boobs.

    Thank God.

    Yes, but it's also like sometimes I want to wear a bikini.

    I don't want to wear like a miracle suit that's working the whole body.

    Like I really mostly need the rest of my body can fend for itself.

    My boobs can't.

    And like they need support and I need brands.

    Even if Miracle Suit like wants to put their material into just a top and

    the rest can be like cute bathing suit material.

    Like the thing about Miracle Suit, might as well say Miracle Suit on it.

    I know.

    Because it looks like a miracle suit.

    And it's really for people in nursing homes.

    Like that is the target demo.

    And I just feel like there are girlies out here who aren't in nursing homes who need that vibe as well.

    And it's hard because with me, it's like I want support for my breasts.

    So I need it to be tight

    so that it's like sucking too.

    But like I also need it to get over my boobs.

    It's it's a very fine line.

    I feel like I have one bathing suit from every brand that works for me, but I need a line of bathing suits that are tit conscious.

    I think the brand to do it is Spanks.

    Like they really need to get into the swim category.

    Yeah.

    But it's giving miracles to.

    No, because Spanks clothing is like very trendy and cute.

    I feel like they could do it.

    Like I really do.

    I'm going to give this job to Sarah Blakely and I feel like she won't let me down.

    Yeah, they could definitely throw their hat in the ring, but I also want

    like trends.

    Not everyone.

    By the way, this isn't to say like, not everyone needs to meet bathing suits for big titty women.

    Like, I just need one or two to focus on it to say, hey, we've got your back.

    Literally,

    you don't need to have big fake titties in order to wear our swimsuits.

    And you don't need to be flat chested or have A, B, or even C cups.

    Like, let's, let's start a line called C plus.

    C plus.

    And I know everyone's going to comment, like, try this brand.

    I've tried it.

    Like it doesn't work.

    Like

    there's a difference between having boobs and having big boobs.

    Like there's a difference.

    Yeah.

    And if you know, you know.

    And if you don't, then count your blessings and stop wishing that you had big boobs.

    Yeah.

    Cause if you can throw your boob over your shoulder, like we're not the same, you know?

    Like a continental soldier.

    Right.

    Do your

    boobs hang low?

    Do they wobble to the flow?

    Can you tie them in a knot?

    Can you tie them in a bow?

    Can you throw them over your shoulder like a continental soldier?

    Do your boobs hang low.

    Hey, they do.

    I'm actually wearing a bra today.

    It's like one of those comfort bras, but it has padding and structure from a new sponsor of ours.

    Me too.

    Oh my god, look at us.

    Have we done a read for bare necessities yet?

    We have not, I think.

    Oh, they're a new sponsor of ours, and I've been living in this bra.

    I haven't washed it since I got it.

    It's a great sweater bra because I've realized I don't want to wear my

    everyday bra when I wear a sweater because it like makes my boobs look big, which they are.

    I want a bra that's going to like flatten them.

    So that's why this is a good sweater bra.

    It sounds like what you and I actually need are breast reductions.

    Yeah, we do, but we also need solutions and we need solution oriented materials and not everything can be so drastic.

    Like not everyone is in a position to have surgery.

    I know.

    And I have been

    really, really, like I've always said a breast reduction is something I'm going to do in the future, but like the day I think is coming, I have been experiencing, I've had big boobs my whole life and everyone always complains about back pain.

    And like, let me say I would complain with them, but like, I never low-key had back pain up until six months ago.

    I cannot do my makeup.

    I cannot do a show without literally like limping off stage.

    My back is not okay.

    I have like so many reservations about getting a breast reduction.

    Like, I know all the benefits.

    I'm just like nervous.

    I've never had surgery before, like the anesthesia.

    Like, I do want to breastfeed.

    I mean, who knows?

    But, like, that's something I would like to do when I have children.

    And I know that, like, that can change.

    Like, there's a lot of things like that are going against my decision, but like the back.

    I can't believe the back came for you my back didn't start hurting with my boots until I was breastfeeding well that makes sense they tripled in size no and also just labor is hard on your back and it's it's a very backward backwards experience it's so backwards so twisted

    um

    i got my show me your mu moo delivery i ordered some bathing suits half were petrifying really quite spooky and the other half were were good but they were again like high-waisted bikinis that also all the bikinis that i wear in order to have support they need to be like that athletic cut and it's like sports bra i don't have any yeah like a sports bra exactly which i love and that's my go-to but sometimes i don't want to have like an athletic vibe i want to be like beachy or something so i think maybe instead of like a bathing suit i need a butler to just walk around and hold my boobs on his forearm or her do you remember that brand from shark tank that towel that's for your boobs ta Towels.

    I have one.

    So here, like, I don't use mine really

    that often.

    I like it, though, and I love the idea, and I love the technology.

    And they need to put something about that magic where, like, your back is carrying your boobs up in a bathing suit.

    No, you're, by the way, Tata Towels is an amazing brand.

    I wish them all the best.

    I completely agree that they might be the company.

    Yeah, they should foray into swimsuits because the idea that like you need your underboob to dry, like, while you're getting ready, like, it'll dry and it's not that urgent no it's it's a decent problem not enough for me to grab my ta ta towel any more than maybe once a year i think i liked it when i was pregnant though um what is like your favorite product from shark tank

    oh i mean you obviously have your answer ready so you go first i don't actually

    i do usually ask questions though because i have an answer i need to think of what i actually own

    from

    the tank.

    Because I actually don't even have a scrub daddy.

    Me neither.

    People are obsessed There's literally like a cult on tick tock They literally change it out once a week They get new ones They do unboxings.

    They're obsessed

    I Can't imagine drawing a blank Okay, if here's a different question if you went on shark tank with a company who would you want to partner with

    I Would have to look at all their records

    Maybe Mr.

    Wonderful.

    I think you know you and him would get along we do we would because we are honest to a full.

    We're honest girls, yeah.

    I just also think that it really depends on what type of product you have.

    It's like a household item, obviously you're going to go with Lori.

    If it's something like athletics, sports, you want to go with, they all have their different niche.

    If it's wine, you definitely want to go with Mr.

    Wonderful.

    And if you're dumb, you want to go with Robert.

    So you're so wrong.

    Oh, I was with Robert in an elevator when I was in New York City last time.

    I forgot to tell anyone that.

    Yeah.

    Wait.

    With Robert and his wife.

    Did you do an elevator pitch?

    No, I didn't.

    And I literally forgot about it until this moment.

    They were in the elevator.

    Where?

    At Bergdorfs.

    Like, of course, they're so fancy.

    Well, I was there too.

    So that makes me fancy.

    So are you?

    You're literally Heather DeBrow.

    I was with Zach.

    And, like, of course, I realized who it was immediately.

    But I.

    And with Harry?

    What?

    I was with Harry, too.

    So he's, everyone's like, oh, hi.

    Conversation starter.

    And then actually, Zach said something really normal, which was that, oh, I think we all have the same wedding planner because we did.

    Oh, yeah, you did.

    And so they were like, yeah, Mikey, we love him.

    We're like, same.

    And then they got out on their floor.

    I think it was their floor, or they were running away from us.

    Right, right, right.

    These crazy wedding people.

    Yeah.

    That's actually like a good intro.

    I think we handled it so normally.

    No, that's so.

    That's the second elevator you've been in with a shark where you didn't take the opportunity to elevator pitch.

    I'm always in elevators with sharks.

    I was in the elevator with a Damon on my bachelorete party.

    Now, I know this isn't Mr.

    Wonderful, but I was once in an elevator with Howie Mandel.

    They look alike.

    Irrelevant.

    But wait, look alike.

    Jackie.

    Jackie, I too have been in an elevator with Howie Mandel.

    You were with me, right?

    No, I was in Montreal for just for laughs.

    Oh, I was at the Ritz.

    Of course you were.

    I was at like a Mario.

    You were fucking with me.

    It was an event.

    It was literally so long ago.

    It was the first time I cut my hair short.

    Where were we going?

    It was, I think it was an AGT, America's Got Talent, like little party.

    Oh my God.

    Yes.

    Memory Unlocked.

    We went to like an AGT launch party.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Yeah.

    Like when I say I was at the Ritz, Ritz, like it sounds so much more fabulous.

    I'm gonna leave it there.

    It was yeah, you weren't staying at the Ritz.

    No, not at all.

    I didn't even, I just, it was in the location of the Ritz.

    Like, okay, here's another question I have for you.

    This is just like my day of questions.

    Um, can I ask you a question?

    No, that's not the question, but there's this prompt going around on TikTok.

    It's like, who is like the most randomly famous person that you have a photo with?

    And everyone's sharing, like, Serena Kerrigan had a photo with Megan Markle.

    Oh, my God.

    Like, when she was like a blogger/slash actress.

    Yeah, yeah.

    Okay.

    I need to

    think

    because I rarely ask for a photo.

    You do.

    But I also only ask the most random people.

    Mm-hmm.

    Why?

    What's yours?

    I don't know.

    I guess like the most famous person I have.

    Oh, is Leonardo DiCaprio?

    No, random.

    No, no, sorry.

    The prompt is who's the most famous person you have a photo with.

    I don't know why I said random.

    Probably Miley Cyrus for me.

    Oh, yeah.

    Met her at Top Shop when I was in high school and I was obsessed beyond with her.

    And I have to thank Olivia because she made me get a picture.

    Also the Veronicas.

    That's like a core memory for me.

    Yeah, core memory.

    And there was someone else.

    Oh,

    Madeline Petch, I have a picture with.

    You also have a traumatizing story to go along with it.

    Different picture.

    Oh.

    Yeah.

    Oh.

    Yeah.

    No, just

    don't meet your heroes.

    Don't meet your heroes.

    No, sorry.

    Don't meet like weird fans.

    That was me.

    No, you were being nice.

    Just stop.

    Just move on.

    Okay, I'll stop.

    I'll stop.

    But no, she's nice, but we just like, I was

    just cringe.

    You weren't connecting.

    By the way, I've told this story before.

    I think on the episode, this is just random unlocked memory.

    The episode that we did with the late lady gang in the studio in the sky, I told them the story and I couldn't even get it out.

    I was laughing so hard and like cringing.

    So you guys, if you want the story, go watch it because I'll never tell it again.

    Ever.

    So that's a little bit about me.

    Yeah.

    What else is going on on TikTok?

    So much.

    I mean, we're blowing up.

    Like, it's just insane.

    Like, our last couple of clips have really performed.

    We, you know, we had a lull when we got 500,000 negative views about Miss Rach, but we're coming back bigger and better than ever.

    But here's the thing.

    Views are views.

    No, it's so true.

    Views people are views people.

    No, it's true.

    So

    I see that as a win.

    And I'm really kind of coming into my TikToker era.

    Like, I've just now gotten another brand sponsorship just for my TikTok.

    Like, I'm really out here being a TikToker.

    And if you follow me on TikTok and you see my like sponsor posts, like, make sure to engage, you know, like leave a comment.

    Okay, so what was the first one that you did?

    I've actually had like a couple in the last because you just said another.

    So what's already live

    you can tell us about.

    Oh, Amazon is already live.

    Captain Crunch is already live.

    Captain Crunch was the fairy?

    The fairy, yeah.

    I did another one.

    I can't remember, but I've got a really big one coming up.

    Ooh, exciting.

    Yeah, it's very exciting to be a TikToker.

    Like, I was so close to fading into irrelevancy, like, you know, meme girl.

    Yeah,

    now I'm like number one podcaster, number one talker.

    It's good.

    I'm happy for you.

    I guess I'm also then the number one podcaster.

    Of course.

    So I'm happy for me, too.

    And I'm number one on Reels.

    No, and you're number one in our hearts.

    Oh, and that's really what matters.

    100%.

    Sure.

    Sure.

    And I'm number one on Goodreads, which is where I like to be.

    That's so true.

    You invest in your TikTok.

    I'll invest in my Goodreads.

    And then we're covering all of our bases here at the Morning Toast.

    Yeah.

    Speaking of Goodreads, I just finished the new Kevin Wilson book.

    He wrote Nothing to See Here, which I loved.

    And so his books are nice and short and funny.

    So I read his most recent one.

    It's called Now is Not the Time to Panic.

    And it was pretty dreadful.

    2.5 stars for me.

    Claudia, don't read it.

    I'm sure Dana will like it.

    Reminded me of Tomorrow and Tomorrow, Tomorrow, just because it was like pessimistic and dreadful about the children.

    Not children, young adults and puberty people.

    You know what it sounds like, Jackie?

    That's my review.

    What does it sound like?

    It sounds like hard.

    It sounds like you're being a hater, and I'm going to put on my diff eyewear glasses to block out the haters, if that's okay.

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    I like sunglasses that like match my face and blend in.

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    Right, even though Thuma didn't pay for that.

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    Shall we dive into the fast five stories?

    Like, I guess, but it's so much more fun when we talk about ourselves.

    I know.

    Well, speaking of us, I, after I finished my terrible book last night, I decided to turn on my television.

    I was looking for a new comfort show.

    You know, I feel like we're in a lull.

    Either it's like White Lotus and like big shows or

    I don't know.

    And I didn't want to watch Real Housewives.

    So I turned on my new favorite show.

    What is it?

    The Culpo Sisters.

    Oh, right.

    There was a new episode.

    McClartia, the show is so good.

    It's so heartwarming.

    Like, I'm obsessed.

    Like, it's really my new comfort show.

    Like, it makes my heart warm.

    Like, they're such cute, funny sisters, but their fights are also like dumb but real.

    Like Sophia stealing Olivia's shoes from the box with the stuffing in them.

    The girl has nerve.

    Oh.

    Oh, she needs a good slide.

    And Olivia like needed them for a shoot and then like didn't have them.

    Oh no.

    That would have gotten in our house like a sister back of the hand to your arm.

    Like no, Olivia is literally so patient with her sisters and they are so mean to her.

    She's really like textbook middle child.

    Olivia, Aurora's, I like called her Olivia.

    Aurora is really the oldest and Sophia is really such young sister energy.

    And you want to know what's the craziest thing about Sophia, how she reminds me of Snitch.

    So when she's like with her sisters, like she's such a younger sister.

    I just want to say taking shoes from a box is literally something Margaret would do.

    Yes, but then she went to film scenes with her boyfriend in Miami, Braxtium, because he was a free agent.

    So they were like filming the two of them.

    And her personality was so different when she was not with her sisters because she got to like be her own person.

    And if that ain't Snitch, I don't know what is.

    I should tell Snitch to watch the show.

    I just want to say, like not to like correct you and be annoying, but a comfort show is a show that you've seen a million times that like you keep watching.

    I thought that's what you were going to say because I actually did recently find a new comfort show.

    Oh, okay.

    So what's a show that brings you comfort?

    Like a new show that brings you comfort?

    Like just, it would be a new show that brings you comfort.

    Okay, so I had a new show that brings me comfort and I'm really enjoying it.

    Plus, they're really opening up.

    Aurora is getting divorced on the show.

    Like she's on the phone with her parents telling them for the first time.

    And we're seeing it.

    It's really

    crazy.

    And like Olivia is talking about how she wants to have kids soon, but like she doesn't want to bring it up to Christian because she doesn't want to like,

    you know, not get the answer that she wants.

    And I just, I can't believe we're getting this insight into these girls.

    And I'm, I'm really loving it.

    I can't say enough good things about it.

    And also, there's just like this underlying positivity about the show.

    Like these are girls that like are just loving life.

    They have really wonderful opportunities and experiences and they're really enjoying them.

    And I just think it's a really great show.

    And if you haven't caught it yet, I would really, really recommend it.

    It was bringing me a lot of joy last night.

    It was giving me, it was like my new southern charm because that's how I used used to feel about southern charm like a show i just watch to enjoy

    i have been watching um for my new comfort show shit's creek i haven't watched it in so many years and it's like really literally i know everyone knows it's like such a good show yeah i guess i just don't want to re-watch shows maybe just because i have such limited time and like i always want to either be watching something that i enjoy or something that's we're going to talk about on the toast or reading a book like i can't imagine now re-watching a show No, I genuinely think, I know we're only like two years apart, but like that's the generational difference.

    Like even before you had a baby, like you never sat around and like watched Sex in the City or Friends.

    Like I watched both of you.

    I did.

    Not Friends, obviously, but like Sex in the City, even when I re-watched like Desperate Housewives, like the idea of re-watching a show, it's just about having a baby.

    And like, I just, I get a few hours to myself and like, I want them to count.

    And I feel like re-watching something that's old, like I can't talk about it on the toast.

    It's, I'm not learning anything.

    Like, I guess maybe if it brought me comfort, that would be enough, but I'd rather watch something new.

    And like, I could talk about the copos on the show if you'll give me the floor.

    I believe I did give you the floor, did I not?

    Right.

    So I'm like talking about something like relevant.

    I'm watching something relevant.

    And I feel like I'm part of

    the world.

    We're so committed to our craft, like our choices.

    Our choices, our day-to-day choices, like are always influenced by like, will this benefit my podcast?

    Right.

    Yes or no?

    Yes or no?

    Get or done.

    Yeah, like sometimes I don't want to go to like an event or something.

    I'm like, the toasters need to know what it was like.

    It's so true.

    So true.

    Like people look at us, they think it's like so easy.

    You know, it's not.

    This life is not as easy as we make it seem.

    Yeah.

    No.

    And sometimes it's like there's more shows I could watch for the toes, but no, we're not going to like take it that far.

    We could watch The Bachelor.

    I can't sacrifice my, I can't sacrifice.

    Okay.

    I can't sacrifice my piece.

    I just want to say one thing about The Bachelor because there's a storyline that I'm kind of obsessed with that has like come from the new season of Paradise, but it's like people that we know.

    So you remember Victoria Fuller from.

    I'm I'm kept up.

    I'm obsessed.

    So apparently she got engaged on paradise to someone I don't know.

    Meet you same.

    And they were like engaged after paradise.

    And I guess she called it off like pretty quickly and then quickly thereafter started dating this guy named Greg who was like the Tyler C of his season with the two bachelorettes.

    Okay, there's only one Tyler C.

    Okay, but like he was like the breakout hottie from his season, which was last season, the season with two bachelorettes.

    And then like Victoria turned around and started, and now they're dating and they're both like really nice looking and they seem to be really into each other.

    I think I've said this before, but like Victoria Fuller is the hottest girl to ever come out of the bachelor franchise.

    Like if I could choose anyone to look like, I would want to look like her.

    She's so stunning.

    McClaudia, that's random

    on Instagram.

    Because I know you're like not going to believe me, but I think you look like her.

    I think you guys have a lot of similar features.

    Maybe that's why I think she's so beautiful because I'm obsessed with myself.

    No, like I think that if you found like a picture of her as a kid and you as a kid, I feel like you would look alike because you guys have like really I there's things about your features that I think are very similar.

    So you think I'm the most beautiful girl in the world is what you're saying.

    Yeah, but you already knew that.

    So true.

    That's literally the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

    Thank you so much.

    And now I'm like, is she beautiful or does she just look like me?

    I'm

    confused.

    Two things can be true.

    So true.

    It's literally so true.

    Anyways, I'm kind of obsessed with this journey that they're on.

    I've been following her like since her season.

    And all of a sudden she's, she's, I didn't even know she was on paradise, but good, she's perfect for paradise because like she needed a, you know, a second, a boost, a boost, like a second moment in the sun.

    Obviously, people were obsessed with her.

    She got engaged.

    Then she like leveled up to the man from the most recent season.

    And then the two of them sat down there going on the vial files.

    I saw that too.

    Look at them making Bachelor Relevant again.

    No, and look at me caring, but it's only because it was like previous people.

    And Greg was the only name I learned from that show.

    And he's with like one of the few people that I still care about.

    So I was just,

    I enjoyed that.

    I enjoyed that too.

    I have also weirdly followed her like since the end of The Bachelor.

    I don't think I follow anyone bachelor-related except for like girls who are really no longer bachelor.

    Amanda, Becca.

    Yeah.

    From our heyday.

    But you also have to remember, like those girls are kind of, are our age-ish.

    Right.

    Like the new people are like Margo's age, but like they're like TD bobbers.

    Raven and I are the same age.

    Right.

    You know?

    No, and a lot of us are like, like Amanda just got engaged.

    I mean, I Amanda just got married.

    Like, we're in like a similar life stage.

    Yeah.

    Lauren just is having another baby.

    A lot of them are like podcasters who have been podcasting like for a while.

    And so it's just they're into the next phase.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Anyways, thought I would share that.

    And now without further a did it, did it do

    question mark.

    Where are you?

    Where are those fucking Strice brethren?

    Where's Thrice?

    Thrice is actually getting groomed.

    Oh, you know what?

    I should actually make sure.

    Gorgeous boy.

    He's doing gorgeous boy tings.

    He's, yeah, he's at the spa.

    Gorgeous.

    Okay, so now without further ado, to do to do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

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    Okay, our first story.

    Will Smith has sat down for his first TV interview since the slap.

    I don't know why I feel like I'm having deja vu.

    Like, I feel like he keeps doing like the first

    one.

    He went to the table, but this is his, that's not TV, that's Facebook watch.

    So this is his first TV interview with, guess who he sat down with?

    I don't think he would guess.

    Gail King.

    No.

    Okay, hold on.

    I think.

    Michael Strahan.

    No.

    Robin Roberts.

    No, these are good guesses.

    And I think actually,

    I think Gail would have been the perfect guess.

    Where he went is a weird choice.

    Okay, so let me think unconventional.

    Is it basic cable, like the first 10 channels?

    No.

    I don't know.

    Could be.

    No, I think it's.

    Wolf Blitzer.

    It's not basic cable.

    Wolf Blitzer?

    No.

    Nancy Grace.

    No, no.

    Am I getting warmer?

    No, you're getting further.

    I don't know.

    Trevor Noah daily show

    oh okay actually I don't hate it but I was literally never gonna guess that because one thing about me is I have never seen one moment of the daily show with Jon Stewart or Trevor Noah like talk about a show like that I'm not like like I'm not the target demo you know I don't think people watch the show I think it's like an industry plant show.

    I think there's like a lot of shows.

    It's regarded.

    It's regarded.

    I think there's a lot of shows like that too that are like made out to be like so famous and like such institutions.

    And then if you ever looked at the ratings, you would be surprised that your Instagram stories get more views.

    Yeah, totally.

    Also,

    Trevor Noah like runs commercials for his show where he like does some of his jokes and they are

    positively dreadful.

    Like I don't even want to call them jokes.

    Like they're horrendous.

    Even just like him reading a dinner menu would be funnier than some of the shit that he says.

    So if that's what you're leaning with, I can't imagine how dreadful the show is.

    When somebody, like for a comedy movie or comedy show, they do like a trailer or a commercial and like they obviously are going to put their best jokes in there and you don't even giggle.

    Don't you think?

    And it's like, I don't need to laugh out loud, but I need to be like, hey, that was smarter.

    Hey, that's funny.

    Like, that's an interesting line of thinking, whatever.

    Dreadful

    when I tell you.

    You know, I've never seen a moment, but I have seen Trevor Noah's ass at Soho's.

    Added to the list.

    That's added to the list.

    Added to the list.

    Claudia loves to

    talk about Trevor Noah's behind.

    We were having brunch at Soho House and Trevor Noah got up to go to the buffet.

    And like I was literally staring at his ass.

    And it was a really, really impressive ass.

    Like it was, it was, those pants were getting eaten up.

    Thank you.

    I know we could have.

    That's my Trevor Noah.

    I just need to know anytime like Trevor Noah is in the news.

    Like we're going to hear about the time you had.

    Oh, so I was there.

    Brunch.

    I was there.

    Yeah.

    You remember the ass.

    I do.

    You just see him from the front and he's sitting behind his desk at his show.

    Like you don't know like there's a big ass behind the desk.

    And now you know.

    And I think, like, big asses on men is like so funny.

    At the play we were just at, one of the characters had the biggest ass,

    and literally was all I could look at because he was also wearing really tight, light-colored pants, like khakis, and his ass was eating up those pants.

    Like, literally, stop saying that the ass is eating the pants, please.

    I could not stop looking at this boy's ass.

    Like, it was crazy.

    Thank you.

    So, that's just a little bit about me.

    Okay, let me get to the story.

    Will Smith sat down for his first interview on late night television since the headline making incident in March, admitting he had, quote, rage bottled up for a long time.

    He said, that was horrific, right?

    As you can imagine, you know, there's many nuances and complexities to it.

    But at the end of the day, I lost it, you know?

    And I guess what I would say, you just never know what somebody's going through.

    In the audience right now, you are sitting next to strangers and somebody's mother died last week.

    Somebody's child is sick.

    Somebody just lost their job.

    Somebody just found out their spouse cheated.

    You just don't know what's going on with people.

    And I was going through something that night.

    Not that that justifies my behavior at all.

    He shared that the anger bubbled up inside of him when Chris made a joke about his wife Jada Pinkett Smith's hair.

    He said, quote, it was a lot of things.

    It was the little boy that watched his father beat up his mother.

    All of that just bubbled up in that moment.

    I was gone.

    That was a rage that had been bottled for a really long time.

    That is not who I want to be.

    He also broke down when he remembered his nine-year-old nephew asking about the incident.

    He said about his nephew, he's the sweetest little boy.

    We came home and it's like he had stayed up late to see his uncle Will and we are sitting in my kitchen and he is on my lap and he is holding the Oscar and he is just like, why did you hit that man, Uncle Will?

    It's a good question.

    Yeah.

    When Trevor asked Will Smith what he had learned from the moment, the star replied, quote,

    hurt people, hurt people.

    Oh my God, it's giving like millennial

    talking points.

    Poster board, poster board that you get at HomeGoods.

    He said, You are asking, what did I learn?

    And it is that we just got to be nice to each other, man.

    And I guess the thing that was most painful for me is I took my hard and I made it hard for other people.

    The thing is, is like, I feel like this is the third time we've been like, we're first time hearing from Will Smith.

    I've actually heard from him three times.

    And I think my takeaway each time is like, I'm done hearing from Will Smith.

    Like, I need a break.

    And I want, if I want to hear from anyone, I want to hear from Chris Rock.

    Yeah.

    Also,

    we keep hearing from him, but the first time was like a video on social media the next time was a red table talk facebook watch it now this is like the first tv interview and so he's obviously had a lot of different ways to like work out what he wants to say and i'm just like it's still like giving like victim and there was like excuses and someone you were talking about what other people in the audience could be going through and that you were going through something but like don't tell us that someone else's mother died like Either tell us that you were going through something and what it was, or don't just give these like arbitrary examples of horrible things to make us assume that maybe you were going through something horrible as well.

    Maybe you were, but I don't know.

    It just feels like you want to lead us towards thinking that, but you don't want to say it.

    And maybe it wasn't anything like that,

    anything wild enough to justify anything remotely like this.

    And it's just, it's weird and it's very victim-y.

    And if you just want to own it and be like, I fucked up, period.

    No, like I hate when people say like, I don't want to make excuses and then make go and make excuses.

    Excuses.

    And also he didn't even know.

    It's like the most frustrating way of explaining yourself.

    He didn't even like make an excuse.

    He just told us what someone else's excuse could have been for someone.

    Right.

    No, he was like, it could have been this or it could have been that.

    He's like playing a game.

    Like, just tell us what the fuck happened.

    I don't think any, it'll justify anything that you did, but at least we'll get a bigger picture of what led someone to do it.

    But like using cliches, like hurt people, hurt people, meaning that you never know what someone's going through.

    Like, agreed.

    But like, okay, so why were you hurting?

    What are you doing?

    And if you don't want to share it.

    And if you don't want to tell us, don't go on TV.

    Right.

    And you don't have to share.

    You don't owe us anything and telling us about your personal life.

    If you don't want to, don't do another interview where you say a lot of nothing.

    yeah no and now it's at the point where it's like he's i think he wants to like there's so many different like pr things going on and i think when you go through something like this you want to address it like frequently so that people can't say that you never addressed it and that you can fully move on but now i'm just like starting to be even more resentful i'm like especially because we have not heard a word from chris rock like i know a few times he's like mentioned it in his stand-up to a crowd of like a thousand people and then it gets like picked up in tmc but that's not like a real statement like i want to know what his thoughts are on the entire saga Like, does he think it's a big deal?

    Is he over it?

    It's like, what's the vibe?

    Yeah.

    I just don't think this is something like, yes, you could do your interview, but it's not like you do your interview and then you get back to work.

    Like, I,

    I don't know how he really comes back from this, like in a public-facing way.

    Yeah.

    You know?

    Yeah.

    No, I can't believe we're still talking about this.

    Like, it's so crazy.

    Yeah.

    It was a crazy thing that happened.

    It hasn't even been a year.

    No, but I know, but it's like this story I've heard already.

    Like, we've we've literally had this conversation.

    I'm telling you.

    Yeah.

    I think it was on Red Table Talk.

    He's just addressed it in a lot of different places.

    And notes like every time it's like the first time, now it's the big first TV.

    He's going to go on Howard Stern.

    He sits down for his first radio interview.

    He'll come on the toast.

    He sits down for his first podcast interview.

    It's like, all right, clickbait.

    Yeah.

    So that's what's going on at the Daily Show.

    Until I hear from Chris Rock.

    And until I hear from Chris Rock, like, I'm really not interested in talking about this any longer.

    Yeah.

    Or until Will Smith says something substantial.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    Are you ready for our next story?

    Billie Eilish is saying some stuff.

    I know.

    And

    I am going to unfortunately have to quote it.

    Billie Eilish calls her boyfriend Jesse Rutherford, quote, the hottest fucking fucker alive.

    Billie Eilish can't believe she's dating Jesse Rutherford.

    She sat down for her sixth annual Vatinity Fair video interview, which was released on Monday, and she talks about her new man's Jesse Rutherford.

    She said, quote, I managed to get my way to a point in my life where I not only was known by a person that I thought was the hottest fucking fucker alive, but pulled his ass.

    She began to smile and clap while asking other people in the room to give her a round of applause.

    She said, Jesse Rutherford, everyone, I pulled his ass.

    All me.

    I did that shit.

    I locked that motherfucker down.

    She added that she's really excited and really happy about her new man.

    Everyone wants to have it noted that she is 20, he is 31.

    And she shared that her love language is physical touch.

    Okay.

    So I do understand the concept in which she is speaking to.

    Like, she must be really proud of herself.

    Like, she used to idolize and look up to someone and, like, really was attracted to them.

    And she got herself to a place in her life where not only does this person know about her, he actually likes her and respects her.

    I get it.

    Why is she fucking talking like that?

    I pulled his ass.

    Stop.

    Stop, girlie.

    Stop.

    I agree.

    It's unacceptable.

    It's giving cringe.

    It's giving millennials.

    It's giving It's giving millennials.

    When I first saw it, I was cringing

    and I'm still cringing.

    It is a sweet concept.

    This person that she respects, like, likes her too, and she snagged him.

    And that's awesome.

    But she doesn't have to talk like that.

    No, seriously.

    People are not here for the age difference.

    Okay.

    Like, maybe I'm just becoming jaded, but like in the grand scheme of Hollywood, it's like not that bad.

    Not that bad.

    I also feel like Billie Eilish.

    And even though like 20 is 20, no matter how you slice it, like 20 is 20, I do think she's a little like wise beyond her years for someone her age.

    Yes.

    I also just think it's like so funny the way people get bent out of shape over certain things and like not other things, you know, like bring this energy to Scott Tissick.

    Yeah, and who was 40 and 20?

    Oh, your book.

    Bring this energy to your book.

    Why is Imagine?

    Right.

    Like Imagine it Done.

    What's your book?

    Imagine us.

    Idea of you.

    Idea of you.

    Why is Idea of You, like, it's being made into a movie with Adam Hathaway?

    She's 40.

    He's 20.

    Oh my God.

    La la la.

    But everybody's

    Olivia Wilde.

    Yeah, but Pete.

    But I feel like they got like,

    ooh, the age.

    The age.

    No, because when the woman's older, like, people don't give a shit.

    Like, the woman is reclaiming her sexuality and the man is like, whatever.

    Actually, when the woman's, like, not to be, you know, anti-woman, but when the women's older, it's actually more fucked up because women are already more mature than men.

    Like a 20-year-old boy and a 20-year-old girl are different levels of maturity.

    And like, women should know better.

    You know, like, men men are really like dumb.

    Like we're not.

    Like you should know better.

    Yeah.

    I just think the older I've gotten and like the more kind of

    like jaded I've become like I've become so aware of selective outrage and I will not be a part of the problem.

    Like people are so dumb sometimes.

    Yeah.

    Also the older I've gotten, the more I've realized like

    how like the older you get, you're just a different person.

    And so I find when like a 35 year old guy or a 40 year old guy like really only wants to date like girls between 20 and 25, it's like, it's really sick.

    Like, because those girls are, and people in general at that age are just so much less mature than someone who's in their 30s, 40s.

    And to like serially want to date someone who's really not fully formed, obviously they're adults and, you know, they're rational, but like not formed in the way that you are.

    Like, I can't imagine dating someone that young.

    That's so uninteresting to me.

    Like, I want to be with someone that's on my level.

    So I think it's weird when people constantly want to like date people who are so much less mature than them.

    It's gross.

    Yeah, and it speaks to an immaturity on their part.

    Yeah.

    So, that's what I've realized.

    I guess it's just like the year of realizing things.

    I feel like every year is the year of realizing things.

    And that's what you realize as you get older.

    Like, it doesn't just have to be one year.

    So true.

    It's the lifetime of realizing things.

    Are you ready for our next story?

    Haley Bieber has an ovarian cyst the size an apple, she shared.

    Haley Bieber

    is dealing with another health setback.

    She revealed on Instagram on Monday that she has a large ovarian cyst.

    She wrote on her Instagram stories and she posted a picture of her belly.

    She said, I have a cyst on my ovary the size of an apple.

    I don't have endometriosis or PCOS, but I have gotten an ovarian cyst a few times and it's never fun.

    She also wrote, like, right where her belly is.

    She said, not a baby, because it does look like a little bum.

    She said, it's painful and achy and makes me feel nauseous and bloated and crampy and emotional.

    Anyways, I'm sure a lot of you can overly relate and understand.

    We got this.

    Peace signs.

    Damn, that's so scary.

    Do ovarian cysts like affect your fertility?

    I don't know much about them, but I imagine that they're related because your ovaries are a big part of

    that whole thing.

    That is, she's like, it's like problem after problem.

    Yeah, she also had a mini stroke.

    She was

    mini stroke early.

    Justin's Ramsey Hunt.

    She had surgery to close a hole in her heart.

    Right.

    And then Justin and his Ramsey Hunt.

    I feel like these two are very stressed.

    I feel like they don't like let like us see that like the pressure gets them, but like I think it does.

    I mean

    they

    their life is so crazy.

    Take the seleniators out of it.

    Take the right, no, no, no.

    Like the level that they live at, their level of fame, his level of fame, it's hers.

    It's crazy.

    No, it's crazy.

    And I feel like a lot of like

    like physical like stress can manifest itself in different ways.

    Yes.

    Like you can really make yourself sick.

    Not that I'm saying that's, this is what happened.

    I'm just saying like, I think, um, I'm not sure what I'm saying, but no, I think what you're saying is like a separate issue.

    I think that they do.

    I think this is also a separate thing.

    I don't know if their ailments are caused by stress, but stress doesn't help anything, does it?

    Right, right.

    No, that's not what I was saying.

    I'm just saying like these two, I just feel like they, like you look at them and you're like, oh, perfect life.

    But like when you really look, like, I feel like they actually, like, they don't have a lot of peace.

    Like, they're always like fighting something yeah but even just like when they're not fighting a hater this or that like that level of fame like people are not meant to be that famous like the human brain is not wired to process all of that

    no and it's

    I feel like they've only gotten more famous.

    Like at first, it was like Haley was like a model and like Justin was this big star and like together, you know, she would become so much more famous because of him.

    But like now she's like just as, if not more famous than him.

    Like she's literally like a cultural icon also because I feel like she leaves the house more than him yes a hundred percent she's always like she's always

    like step out street style inspire the youth he can like

    stay in the house work in the studio keep to himself but she's really like for her brand she really has to be out there that is true and I do find it very um impressive that she's like always going to these events by herself and like really out here like holding her own yeah I wonder if it would be more those events are really no, I mean, those events are really like hard.

    And like, I think having like your husband there would, even if your husband is so famous, like, would ease the burden.

    Like, you, you have your partner there.

    Yeah.

    But, like, she's literally never photographed with him except at the Metgella.

    That's true.

    I never thought about it.

    I always just think, I never think about that.

    Even though she is at events, I always just think of her like walking to her car.

    Well, because those like paparazzi, she's literally like the, by the way, I'm going to make the craziest, craziest comparison right now.

    Haley Bieber is the Princess Diana of our generation.

    Only in the style sense.

    So she's a style icon.

    Yeah.

    But like when I think of her car photos, like I think of the Princess Diana ones, like the very, like not even a crazy outfit, like biker shorts and a crew neck.

    And like then it becomes like

    agreed.

    Like very minimalist.

    It's not like crazy, Kardashian, big.

    No, it's just like so minimal.

    And like every little tiny thing she does is a style trend.

    Her earrings, her nails, her rings.

    Right.

    Yeah.

    I agree.

    And her nails are literally shiny white.

    It's not the craziest thing.

    It's not ugly.

    Like, I think a lot of trends, like you don't get it, but you just copy it because it's trendy.

    But like everything she does and wears like it's truly beautiful.

    And even if you wouldn't have thought of it to do it first, like you see it and you want to emulate it.

    It's not like ugly clothes.

    Totally.

    No, that's a really gorgeous way of putting it.

    Thank you.

    Timeless.

    Yeah.

    No, just like genuinely nice look.

    Same with Diana.

    Like

    stylish and classic.

    Yeah, not just like different and unique.

    Yeah.

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    Okay, our next story, a little beef between Howard Stern and Oprah.

    Howard Stern calls out.

    Jackie, the moguls are fighting?

    The moguls, there's infighting amongst moguls.

    I mean, obviously we stay above it.

    These two just, no, I'm sorry, just Howard can't help himself.

    I don't know what Oprah did to trigger this, and I don't think she's done anything or even responded, but here's what she said.

    Here's what Howard said.

    He's calling out Oprah for showing off her lavish lifestyle.

    Howard Stern accused Oprah of of showing off her wealth on social media.

    He said, quote, Oprah's not embarrassed by her wealth at all.

    He said during his radio show on Monday.

    Why should she be?

    Adding that she loves showing it off.

    He said, it's fucking mind-blowing when you follow her on Instagram.

    You see her estates, her gardens, the people who service her, and you know, then his co-host Robin said, service her.

    She's not a car.

    And Howard said, well, she kind of is.

    She's got servants and like people cooking and it's fucking wild.

    Everyone does, like who's rich.

    He said that the talk show host knows how to be rich and like, quote, likes to show it off.

    He said, which is not something I'm comfortable with.

    I don't think that people should show off their wealth.

    Robin Quivers disagreed, arguing she's just giving fans a peek inside her life using social media.

    She said, Robin's just showing you her life.

    She's not showing off.

    And Howard said, well, you got to be a little self-aware and know that there are people struggling out there, Robin.

    You got to.

    You got to kind of think about people who don't have to eat.

    You know what I'm saying?

    I mean, come on.

    You got to be a little aware of this.

    Okay.

    That's actually an interesting point because there's something going on on TikTok right now that I want to tell you about.

    Cause I don't really, I don't live in the UK.

    So I don't know how I ended up on the side of UK.

    I mean, of TikTok.

    So there is this TikToker.

    Her name is Lydia.

    And she's like, she's kind of like the something Navy of the UK, London.

    Her name is Lydia.

    She's so glamorous.

    I think so.

    She's so glamorous.

    Her videos have come up on my furry page all the time.

    She's like at her country house.

    She's going riding.

    She's showing you what she's wearing, a Burberry coat.

    Here's my fragrance.

    She'll show her husband.

    Like she's, she's literally like something navy on crack.

    She's like Royal Something Navy.

    Okay.

    And it's all very like

    affluent.

    It's very, what's the word with an N?

    Aspiration.

    Aspirational.

    Like it's very rich.

    But then, you know, at the same time, there's this crisis going on in the UK, the cost of living crisis.

    Like people can't afford to like turn their heat on in the winter.

    Like it's really,

    it's bad.

    Like there's no hot water.

    So she made this video and this video like literally like is going to be the end of her.

    So she was like, she always starts her videos off with a clap.

    And she is

    talking about how there's no hot water in her apartment.

    So her and her husband are going to go stay at the Savoy

    and just enjoy all the luxurious spas and, you know, whatever.

    And she got like the Savoy sponsored, whatever.

    She basically didn't have any hot water and she left.

    And people are taking this one particular video and just like comparing it to what's going on in the UK,

    being like, this is so out of touch, yada, yada.

    But like, this is also why everyone followed her.

    So I feel like in these certain situations, same with Oprah.

    Like we all live for Oprah.

    Like, yeah, show us the garden.

    And like, yeah, it is out of touch.

    Like, people lost their jobs.

    Like, people can't afford health insurance.

    Like, there's all all these terrible things, but like that's why we love Oprah.

    That's why everyone loves Lydia up until they didn't.

    No, but it's like, is Lydia responsible for the cost of living crisis?

    Why don't you bring your outrage to the people who caused it and maybe the people who can affect some change?

    Like it doesn't need to be like that.

    So it just feels like misplaced.

    And it's not like this isn't what she's been doing this whole time.

    So obviously this sparks something in people.

    And also it goes viral and then it reaches people who weren't following her before.

    And they're just like, this person's out of touch when it's like, oh, but she's been out of touch the whole time.

    Right.

    And that was like really why it reminded me so much of the Summing Navy thing.

    Like everyone was mad at Summing Navy when she got COVID and she was like able to go to the Hamptons and get herself a test.

    But like you didn't mind that energy when she was like being fabulous and you were loving the content before.

    So it's like you build people up because everyone was following Summing Navy because she's fabulous and she has this gorgeous life that everyone wants.

    Everyone was following Lydia because it's like, oh, it's escapism.

    And then when like you're something else goes on in the world, like you get mad at the person for being the thing that you actually built them up for.

    So same with Oprah.

    Like Oprah's a living legend now because she's this like rich billionaire who like just bought Weight Watchers because she wants to and she like has a garden and she has like staff.

    Like that's why we love Oprah.

    So it's like to get mad at her for that reason is kind of like fucked.

    Right.

    Also.

    Coming from Howard, I just, I don't think he even realizes how not self-aware he is.

    We had just reported a story that he went to a restaurant for the first time in three years.

    He has not left his house since March 2020.

    And I can't even explain to you how much privilege that requires to not have to leave your house, to not have to grocery shop.

    Other people are delivering your food.

    Other people have to go out into the world.

    Other people who might be as germaphobic as Howard, but can't just stay home for three years.

    Like

    you're not self-aware.

    So it's just the

    calling the kettle black.

    So it's just rich coming from him.

    I also think with Oprah, it is different in a lot of ways.

    And also people love Oprah.

    And that's what we love aspirational content.

    But like when she's gardening, like she's teaching people.

    I think like if she's cooking,

    she's showing people.

    And so, yes, not all all of our gardens or our kitchens look like Oprah's, but like, I could learn something from her Instagram content and like, I can maybe have a meal like Oprah's having.

    I cooked it myself.

    I didn't have my chef cook it, but like, there's things that you can take from it.

    No, and like, why is he going after Oprah specifically?

    I feel like Martha Stewart does like really similar content to Oprah.

    Like, I would say they're really the same.

    They're always in the garden.

    They're always starting like fabulous dinners.

    Like, it's giving, you know, barefoot Contessa energy.

    So, like, what's why Oprah?

    Yeah.

    And another thing, and another thing.

    I do feel like there is one argument worth making when it comes to like

    being, you know, rich on social media.

    I think it makes you a target.

    I think it actually can put your safety at risk a lot of the times.

    Like Kim is the perfect example of that, like being so show-off-y, so materialistic.

    Like people are evil and people are hateful and people are jealous.

    And like,

    I think like whenever, especially with influencers who don't have like high level security that like Oprah has, I think people like who show off like so many of like their houses and bags and like, I think it's really dangerous.

    And like I'm always surprised when I see like people who are influencers who definitely have a lot of money, but not enough to have like 24-7 round-the-clock security being so frivolous and like flamboyant with their money on social media.

    I feel like that

    is a good argument.

    Well, it's not even close to the argument that he's making.

    No, no, no.

    No, no, I'm just saying, like, when we're talking about this, I think that is literally like the only

    rational argument against like being rich on social media.

    Because if you're rich like you're rich it's your life and like social media is meant to portray your life so what would you rather them cosplay as poor to make you feel better right i only have an issue with people like oprah who are extremely wealthy who are living large and showing it off when they are trying to get other people to live smaller You know, like when they're trying to get you to conserve more and to be less wasteful and to not fly and not to use gas and not to have carbon emissions when like you are taking a private jet to go meet your friend who took a private jet to go meet a group of people who each took their own jets and you guys are also getting on a yacht.

    That bothers me.

    So if you want to live large, live large and don't preach to me and don't preach to other people who will emit less carbon emissions in their whole lifetime than you will on one vacation.

    That's the only thing that bothers me about people who live big and showy.

    Beautifully said.

    Beautifully said.

    Yeah.

    I just think like maybe there's a conversation to be had here, but like why you started with Oprah?

    Like she's like a national.

    Maybe they were having, I don't know the context for how

    they started talking about Oprah.

    They must have just been talking about her, but I also think, like, I mean, Oprah is really, really wealthy.

    She's like worth $2.5 billion.

    She's a billionaire.

    And most people who are billionaires are not celebrities.

    So there's only a few people who show us their billions on social media.

    That's actually a really good call.

    Which celebrities are billionaires?

    Kim?

    Kim.

    Oprah.

    Beyonce and Jay-Z combined.

    Yeah.

    You know what?

    Sounds like a job for Google.

    You know who I feel like is a billionaire?

    Who?

    Ashton Kutcher.

    Oh, that's interesting.

    Because he's always like invest, invest, you know, shark tank.

    He doesn't even really act anymore, and he's like always making money.

    Yeah.

    Kanye.

    Rihanna.

    But then there's a difference.

    Oh, Rihanna.

    Then there's a difference with people who are billionaires and then become famous for being billionaires.

    Mark Cuban.

    Yeah.

    Michael Jordan.

    Sir Paul McCartney.

    Wow.

    Tyler Perry.

    I love that for him.

    I love Tyler Perry.

    Highly.

    Of course.

    And that was the list for my heart.

    Wow, that's a really short list.

    Oh, so wait, there's more.

    LeBron.

    Wow.

    Right?

    This is a celebrities who are billionaires.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Peter Jackson.

    He's a Lord of the Rings director.

    I would say that's a businessman.

    I wouldn't say that's a celebrity.

    I just wouldn't say that's a celebrity.

    So true.

    I don't know this man.

    I'm sorry to this.

    Then there's Jeff Bezos, as stated.

    Not the same.

    Jeff Bezos' ex-wife, as stated, not the same.

    Not the same.

    Michael Bloomberg, as stated, not the same.

    Not the same.

    Evan Spiegel, as stated, not the same.

    Famous for being rich is not the same as being rich for being famous.

    Right.

    George Lucas, so he's Star Wars.

    He's always Lord of the Rings.

    He's famous.

    He can go with Lord of the Rings.

    Yeah, in the gray era.

    Mark Cuban, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, not the same.

    Doesn't count.

    Steven Spielberg

    counts.

    Yeah, that does count.

    Cheryl Sandberg, not the same.

    Warren Buffett, not the same.

    Kylie.

    Okay, so that's really the ones that we said are the ones.

    Really short.

    Yeah.

    That's so interesting.

    And it's really, except that's why I was surprised by LeBron, because it's really all people who like started companies, not like who got famous.

    Like they're not billionaires from the reality show, The Kardashians.

    You know what I mean?

    No, you have to be able to do that.

    I don't think Jay's in your business.

    You're not a billionaire from his music.

    It's because of Rock and Age.

    So you'll never become a billionaire just by not

    working for someone else.

    Exactly.

    It's interesting.

    It is interesting.

    Yeah, no one on there works for someone else, really.

    Yeah.

    You could also divorce into billions.

    Right.

    That's how I plan to make my billions, even though I'm never getting divorced.

    That was a joke.

    Ben, I love you.

    Oh, okay.

    Well, that's the fast foiv.

    I mean, we could go there if you wanted to.

    Like, about the way

    you can become a female billionaire if you get a divorce.

    Yeah, because

    one.

    Yeah, like, I do believe that, like, she deserved half.

    And, like, you know, she was at home.

    Like, she, like, they both, it wouldn't have been able to make Amazon what it was had she not, you know, been there and done her part.

    Well, there's this thing, like, most of the richest women in the world are rich

    or heiresses.

    Or divorcees.

    Yeah, heiresses too.

    We got to do better.

    in the sense of like you need to

    uh marry a billionaire women or we need no we need to become more self-starter self-starters yeah I am pledging to become you know a female billionaire who didn't get her money from divorce or from an heiress and I um I'm gonna need your guys's help so don't forget to share this podcast If anyone wants to buy my comedy special, like, come on.

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