A Seat At Our Table: Tuesday, November 1st, 2022

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the Toast.

Happy Tuesday post-Toasta Ween.

Hope everyone is feeling okay after the come down of Toastawen 2022.

I know I'm feeling the come down for sure.

It's a come down, but on the bright side, it's November.

It is November.

Isn't that crazy?

The weather outside is weather, but the weather is so weather.

Since of no place to go,

listen to the toast, the the toast, toast.

I have to work on that.

Yeah, you could have just said like, listen to

the toast.

But like, let it snow.

Like, snow has the same intonation as toast.

Okay.

So let it snow.

Let it toast.

Let it snow.

Yeah, something like that.

Toast.

Sometimes the simpler option is the better one.

Ain't that the truth?

Today's a big day.

Not only is it the day after toast to win, which everyone's talking about,

it is the day that Jackie hopefully gets

her learner's permit, which is the first step in a long journey to getting your license.

You have your test today.

I'll be driving you there.

And we, everyone at the chest, we are all wishing you a huge behatzlaha.

Thank you so much.

I've been cramming for my tests.

There's so much information to learn.

And I just, like a sponge, I want to absorb it.

But I only have so much time.

So I read the handbook last night.

It's 100 pages of information.

You read the whole handbook.

I read like 70 pages.

I have to do the next 30.

Okay, honestly, like I do, I feel, I don't remember taking the test, so I don't, can't say this for certainty.

I feel like you're like overthinking it.

I'm definitely overthinking it, but they really do ask like obscure questions.

No, and like dead ass, like what if you fail?

From the handbook.

No, if I, if I fail, I'm going to be heartbroken.

I will literally die if you fail.

That is the funniest thing.

Right.

I've been vlogging my journey and we'll continue the vlog today.

Speaking of Patreon content, last night we just like dropped the most amazing podcast episode with Olivia, our sister who just gave birth.

She sat down with us last week to talk about her pregnancy, her birth story, why she kept her pregnancy relatively private this time and how her experience this time around was very different from the time before.

And it was really amazing.

The reviews were during an episode.

I mean, people love Olivia even when she's, you know, talking about.

Less important things, but she's really sharing it all on this latest Patreon episode.

So once you're done listening to this and make sure to listen to the whole thing because I have a feeling it's going to be spectacular.

No, and and I have a feeling like it gets better as it goes, you know?

As it always does.

Right.

Head over to patreon.com slash the toast to listen to that.

And then you can also consume all of the content from the past five years, but also our October content was super premium.

Why do you want my coffee?

Because look.

Are you going to lay your cards again?

Okay, let me take one sip.

Oh my God, I can't do anything in this house without being monitored.

You're going to touch it on the top, which is where I put my mouth.

So great.

Perfect.

Look at that.

Yeah, I need to make space for Theo.

So I thought, thought why not create a sign you need to make a seat at the table for him yeah no because the thing about the toast is like there's a seat for everyone but mostly me and jackie yeah yeah our seats are like the most important biggest ones yeah and then we have some like uh folding chairs for anyone else who wants to join but the brethren stay on the thrones with us and the brethren stay winning they were really the stars of toastaween yesterday yesterday was a crazy day because obviously we did toastawen but yesterday was actual halloween and when you have children like halloween hits different it does um it's way worse like it's not fun like i think that it re-invigorates your joy for halloween i feel like the last few years i've only dressed up for toasta ween i didn't like go to any parties or dress in other costumes except like now that i'm thinking about it i did uh but still like it's not like how it was when you were young and i feel like once you have kids you start to see it through their eyes again and it becomes fun once more and it's literally like the best day of the year you just walk around collecting candy well i don't want to spoil anything because we did vlog our entire halloween weekend um we're like such vloggers we have so many vlogs like in the works.

Right.

In production.

In production.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Some of them are in post-production.

Yeah.

No, I was getting to editing last night.

I need just your sign-off before I can upload it.

But we, this was our first year.

Like, obviously, you're a homeowner now.

Like, we were hosting Trick-or-Treaters and we were so excited.

And like, we were incredibly let down.

I don't want to spoil anything, but like it was wild.

We were really let down.

But you know what?

I was watching Instagram stories and Olivia Culpo also was let down.

She said they got like two bags of candy from different places.

They were so excited and no one came.

Now, has that always like, is this like a problem adults have or has the culture of trick-or-treating changed in the last couple of years?

That or you over, maybe it was never that poppin' for a homeowner.

Just the kids who go sporadically to other houses.

Maybe it's never been that exciting to

open the door on Halloween.

You know, maybe that's not where the excitement is at.

And maybe I'm just like looking at it through rose-colored glasses, but like my childhood, like I just remember like when we were on the streets, like it was literally packed, like kids everywhere.

but maybe that's just like how i remember it and i'm going to choose to remember it that way because those were glorious times i literally don't remember other kids when we were triggered oh i do plus they only hung like we're with each other who needs other kids but we were like very insular like not looking for other friends like we had four friends no for sure but I do remember other kids around.

Not with us, but like in the streets.

God, on their folding chairs.

Right, right.

Exactly.

So I hope everyone had a great Halloween.

I did.

You know, first Halloween out of New York.

So hot.

It is so motherfucking hot.

I'm definitely ready to come home.

Really?

You know, I'm ready.

I miss my bed.

Coming home tomorrow.

I'm excited, but I'm not even sad because your ass is coming with me.

And that's huge.

It's huge.

It's huge.

Not your ass.

Like the fact that you're coming.

Like, that sound of misleading.

Like, that's huge.

Yeah.

I just wanted to clarify.

An insult snuck in.

No, you have a perfect shaped ass.

Like really perfection.

No.

No.

So shy.

So, yeah, we'll be doing Toast New York Thursday and and Friday.

Fabulous.

We have one more episode here with these dear flamingos, which have really been such wonderful companions.

Wonderful, wonderful companions.

Wonderful backdrop.

Backdrop.

I love the vibes.

I love the vibes as well.

And the pink of the rebrand really matches the pink of the flamingos.

It wasn't an intentional connection we made when we were sitting down with our...

team of graphic designers.

But then once we got to the new rebrand, we did notice that this pink did kind of hark back to the flamingos.

And that's how you know a rebrand is like gonna work you know but then there's hidden meaning when your brand is so authentic things constantly line up that actually is true because it's not contrived and it's who you are to your core and one thing about us is we're not fucking contrived not at all i bet some of you wish we were contrived but we're not you wish we were um

so yeah no tv recap today what's what like i think The field of TV is shifting.

The problem is that.

Right, because Beverly Hills is ending.

I have not been keeping up with Potomac is over sorry ended Potomac is on but like I just have fallen short soul like City is on and I have I've been searching for like one iota of a shit to give the thing is you guys we tried yeah I really tried really don't care so like I don't know if I'll catch up but like until they start talking about anything

No, until until they stop talking about anything other than Jen's trial, like I'm genuinely not interested.

You're genuinely not interested.

I'm gen shanguinely not interested.

Understood.

So Tell Me Lies is over.

House of the Dragon is over.

But new things are starting too.

White Lotus just started.

Yes, I need to catch up.

I think there's maybe two or three episodes out.

There's one.

Cool.

And so we could watch that week to week.

That would be fun.

Sure.

You know, it all depends on the day of the week.

Sunday.

And that would replace House of the Dragon.

Okay.

Okay.

I'm here for that.

The crown is coming back next week.

The queen is coming.

The crown.

I'm so excited.

I'm so excited to see you.

I need to like clear my schedule to make time.

You know, that's going to be like a weekend affair.

It's going to be glorious.

Absolutely glorious.

And then

what else?

Winter House is on, but we haven't picked that up.

No, I'm just like really, I'm being more selective.

I'm, I'm protecting my peace when it comes to which reality shows I'm going to watch.

It's just, I feel like for, for a while, it was a little too much.

So I'm just protecting my energy.

And I encourage all of you to protect your energies.

It comes in waves.

It really depends on like the franchise.

I feel like two weeks ago, we were recapping so many things.

Yes.

You know, when New Jersey's on, we recap it.

New Jersey's so good.

Like so good.

New Jersey stays winning.

And the thing about New Jersey is there doesn't need to be like a huge thing happening for it to be good.

Well, that's the thing.

Like I feel like in the fandom, like whenever people talk about like the crown jewelsy, like even the worst season of Beverly Hills is so good.

And that's true, but I feel like really New Jersey does not get enough credit.

I agree.

Like I cannot recall a recent season that was bad.

It's just genuinely entertaining.

Yeah.

And I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that like the group is partially family.

So like they always have to be together and it's like toxic it's really good yeah and the men oh of course the men frank and tanya jobening though yeah for sure that's really what sets it apart um

so we've got a great show today i'm so excited to talk about the glee story like some bombshell bts facts and trivia came out um from this ryan murphy interview he was just sharing lots of tidbits about glee so gleeks unite he was on the new glee rewatch podcast yeah um so that's something positive coming from a rewatch podcast.

That's true.

I so it's hosted by Jenna Ushkowitz and Kevin McHale, who played Tina and Artie.

And it's the official rewatch podcast, but they also already had a podcast together.

Yeah, but it wasn't about glee.

Yes, it was.

No, it was about duos, right?

No, because I did the podcast.

And I think you made it about glee on your episode, but it was about duos.

Jackie, I didn't make it about glee.

They gave me an episode to watch.

Like they were re-watching and recap.

It wasn't a re-watch.

It was like a recap or whatever.

Okay.

And then when I recorded my episode, it was the week that Naya Rivera passed away.

So they never released it because like there was more important things.

So my episode never came out.

So maybe I'll be asked if we go on this one.

I feel like I need to remember the name.

I feel like it was about duos, but then you went on it alone.

So that doesn't make sense.

No, it doesn't.

So I'll need to, when I pick up my iPad, do a little googling.

Yeah.

So we've got that.

We've got great stories, really.

We do.

And I think without further ado, do it do, where are you?

you right here for another amazing episode with the Strice Brethren?

And we're just counting our blessings because soon they will not be here with us while we do the toast.

Jesus Christ.

Because when we do it separately, like they don't show up to work.

They don't.

They're so bereft.

They're so competitive that they'll only work when the other is working to show the other one up.

Everyone has a coworker like that.

You know what?

Like competition

makes you thrive.

No, competition benefits the consumer.

Right.

That's the saying.

Oh, no, the saying is competition benefits the toaster.

100%.

Right, right, right.

So, without further ado, to do, here are the fast-five stories that you need to know.

Today's episode, I just want to say, like, I'm really not happy with where we landed.

It's all in flux.

No, you keep saying that, but you've been doing the same thing for like two weeks.

But when do I ever stay on one thing?

No, maybe.

When do I ever know?

Maybe you should just say, Here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

Don't do the come.

It makes no motherfucking sense.

Okay, so that's maybe we can add a new button to the soundboard, like clink, or a button with a song.

Glug in a glug.

A button with an original song.

Hot toasted all our ones.

Oh, we could put on toast.

Yeah.

Like just that one part of toast.

Or any of the songs that we've written for toast tunes.

Yeah, or just toast by Claudia Asheray.

Sure.

Sure.

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We've done that before on Patreon.

Yeah.

Oh.

We could start thinking of it now so you could keep a list.

It's hard hard for me to think of everything.

Yeah, no, I'm just sit down to do it.

I'm also not a great gift giver.

Like who on God's green diddly dally earth do I think I am giving gift guide recommendations?

I think of really good gifts for people like at the complete wrong time.

Like I just thought of such a good gift for Olivia, but it's like there's nothing coming up.

Right.

And so I need to write it down actually.

And then sometimes I do that and it really works out well, but

I come up with really good ideas just and it's not the time.

No, but you're a pretty good gift giver.

I would think so, especially for you yeah because i know you so well you do how's my birthday gift going it's going really well like really really well no i i'm sure that you're gonna head to the shops of new york and buy your girl something i don't need to you got something already i i don't really feel like you know divulging my secrets but just know it's it's

it's

i'm sure that you

haven't gotten anything yet so let me just wow have ye little faith no i know that i will have something on my birthday like however you choose to go about it i'm not offended by a last minute purchase.

It's not a last-minute purchase.

Okay, but if you needed some ideas or no?

Sure, sure, yeah.

Like just think home.

That's where my head is at, of course.

Yeah.

Like I, the KitchenAid mixer would have been great if I didn't just get it for myself.

It's just hard to buy something for someone who buys everything for themselves, you know?

Yeah, no, I'm that's true.

Self-sufficient queen, financially independent queen.

But maybe you would have been staying in my home.

There's something I didn't have.

No, don't worry.

Like seriously, don't worry.

Okay, I'm not worried.

Don't worry.

I'm really not worried.

Maybe something for Streis.

Why does it smell like a bully stick in here?

Hmm, I'm not smelling that.

Maybe it's Bruno because Thea smells great.

Maybe he just enjoyed one.

Did you see anything like that?

No, I didn't even give him one.

You were with him all morning and all evening because he's a traitor.

He's obsessed with me.

And that's why I'm sad.

Obviously, I don't want you to leave ever.

I want you to move in with me.

But I'm really sad for Bryce.

Like that I'm leaving, yeah.

And that like the party is ending because these last few weeks have been heaven for him.

They really, they've been heaven for me too, Bryce.

I love you dearly.

And, you know, there's always a place in my bed for you.

Yeah.

That's always a spot at my table.

In a folding chair.

On the floor.

Okay, our first story, some really exciting news.

Taylor Swift has announced her 2023 Eras tour of U.S.

Stadiums.

Taylor announced this morning her long-rumored return to the road with an outing dubbed as the Eras Tour, scheduled to hit U.S.

stadiums beginning in March 2023 and running into August with international dates set to be revealed later.

The supporting acts are very much all about the sisterhood with the host of acts Taylor has championed in the past.

Opening acts for the U.S.

Leg of the Tour are Paramour, Hame, Phoebe Bridgers, Be Badoobi, Girl in Red, Muna, Gail, Gracie Adams, and Owen.

Gracie Abrams.

She's JJ Abrams' daughter.

Nepo baby.

Uh-huh.

How is the music?

I don't know it, but I feel like I have some.

Margo loves her, and she's like literally the definition of an epitome baby.

But I feel like I actually know who she is.

I like know her.

I don't know a lick of her music.

And today was just a really hard day to wake up as someone who's not a Capital One cardholder.

Like it was really, really hard.

Yeah.

And I feel like when you go to TPG for all of your points and cards advice and like he kind of led you astray here because he should have known capital one.

Don't get it twisted.

Like I will be using Brian's credit card and then reimbursing him.

So he has capital one.

I don't even have to ask.

I know he has a capital one credit card.

Like I will be getting my way into presale.

Like I know I saw Capital One sponsored it.

They got like premium billing.

Yeah, because I didn't realize that that would mean Capital One cardholders.

Most of the time, it's American Express, like for, I feel like a lot of tickets.

I feel like Ticketmaster is like a big partnership.

I don't know why.

I just always think it's American Express, but Taylor has her own deals.

Like she was on those Capital One commercials a couple of years ago.

So she obviously has a big deal with Capital One.

I should have guessed, but now it's like with these things, like you can't become a cardholder and then become eligible.

It's like for pre-existing cardholders.

Darn, darn, darn.

So I feel like there's a very small chance Ben might have a Capital One credit card.

Definitely not.

I will be asking Brian as well.

I will be getting pre-sale.

Like I will be scheming the system and I don't want to hear any anything about it.

Like I'm going to do I'm going to figure it out.

Like I'm so

like,

I can't.

I'm also going to like I'm going to see multiple shows.

Okay.

Well, here are some dates and she's going to Arizona.

Vegas.

That sounds like something to see.

Texas, Arlington, Texas, Tampa, Florida, Houston, Texas, Atlanta, Georgia, Nashville, Philly, Foxborough, Massachusetts.

Oh, at Gillette Stadium, not at Foxwoods.

No, that is confusing.

East Rutherford.

East Rutherford Stadiums.

East Rutherford, New Jersey.

In New Jersey.

Taylor loves MetLife Stadium.

Well, is it the only stadium in the, like, in the New York area?

Like, it's the biggest one.

Yeah, the Jets and the Giants play there.

There aren't that many.

100,000 seat stadiums in New York.

It's about 100,000.

It's about, yeah, not for a concert, because I don't know if you sell the whole thing.

Even though people are now like guessing that because her whole theme of like midnights is like a clock, it's going to be like a rotating circular stage, which means she could sell the entire stadium.

Wow.

And maybe each era is like a different time.

Oh, yeah.

Then that makes it like hard to like know where to sit.

Now, I want to say I love the concept of the eras because, you know, Taylor Flood fans, we're so blessed that like we've gotten in the last four years, like so many different works of art, re-records, original music.

But like, I am sad that like certain eras, like especially for me, like folklore Evermore, that we're not going to get like a dedicated Evermore tour.

Like how a normal celebrity does an album and a tour, an album and a tour.

And Taylor's obviously not normal.

So this, this is really like Lover,

Folklore Evermore, Fearless Re-record, Red Re-record, Midnights.

It's six albums in one.

It's not going to be 1989.

It looks like debut, too.

No, she put all of them on there.

And like the concept of the show that she explained, it's like, it's a celebration of all of my eras.

Right.

but she could sing songs from albums she hasn't re-recorded yet right like people do covers at concerts all the time yeah no she can sing yeah yeah yeah no i do i actually do think you do pay for it really i do think so like there's a weird yeah

hmm there's something um

i just do wish like we there's so many recent you know works of hers that i wish got dedicated tours the mostly evermore Yeah, but that would have been an interesting.

It would have been different.

It would have been like a Bonivaire.

Oh, we had talked about this.

It should have been at like an amphitheater where you could sit on the grass or like a madison square garden yeah an arena as opposed to a stadium yeah because it's not a stadium vibe you just want to like

it's just such a flex that like taylor is out here um like i think now is the third time in a row because 1989 she did it with ex

maybe not 1989 exclusively stadium dates.

I think Reputation was probably the first time she did that because 1989 she played the Staple Center eight times as opposed to just like SoFi SoFi Stadium once.

And she is playing SoFi Stadium.

Twice.

Twice.

Which is so crazy.

So it's just like such a flex for her.

Like, oh, Tor, got to do just the stadiums, you know, maximize my time, maximize my profit.

Also, yesterday was a big day for Taylor because the billboard chart came out.

And not only did she get the number one song with Anti-Hero, she occupies all 10 spots on the billboard charts.

for different songs from midnights, which obviously she's the first person to ever do that.

And it's just fucking iconic.

It's literally just iconic.

And it's the first time there hasn't been a male on the top 10 billboard charts in history.

And you just, you truly love to see it.

You love to see it.

It was such a, I feel like I've seen that like infographic of the billboard charts a lot.

People are always sharing like so excited my song went number two, number two, number one.

And I've never seen it like with just the same person's name.

Yeah, it was really iconic.

She's just in this like iconic era, you know?

Mm-hmm.

I just think it's like conic.

Yeah, I love the concept of this tour.

Me too.

Especially since like eras is such a core part of her brand.

No, that word is really having a moment.

I think it's like a timeless word, but you know, people will be like, I'm in my Blair era.

And

this is real, is that.

Yeah, no, and she really, like, she's not even bandwagoning on like a trendy word because she's been doing this.

Right.

And she, every album for her is an era.

So.

So I really want to wish everyone luck on the pre-sale, the general on sale.

Like, it's going to be a bloodbath till the end.

And I will be fighting with my sword till the very end.

What city are you going to go to other than East East Rutherford?

Nashville is on Margo's birthday.

Oh, wow.

So I've already spoken to the counselor about that.

And that's what the counselor wants to do.

That's what it was the counselor's idea.

Because I was like, probably Margo doesn't want to hang out with me on her birthday.

So

maybe I'll see you like if anyone else wants to go.

But it was her idea.

And of course I'm going to be going to Met Life.

Coolio.

Coolio.

I'm so excited.

This is just, it's a thrill.

There's just like a, it feels overwhelming.

Like she has a lot of catching up to do, you know, in this tour.

She feels overwhelmed.

Beyond.

But I think this is a good way to organize it yeah it's very organized as opposed to being like what song's coming next

switching back and forth now she can really get on every outfit for each mood it's perfect i bet it's gonna be like a long i mean all of her shows are long but i bet it's gonna be like a three-hour concert yeah it could she's so much longer like she has so much to do longer but she could do like a

day

Like a festival.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, and like she could go in for like hour breaks.

Yeah.

We all go to the bathroom, get snacks.

Right, like go to some activations.

That's like what Lover Fest was initially supposed to be.

Yeah.

Also, people are quaking because on the list of openers, there's Paramore.

It's like they're only opening one show, the first one, which is so unfair.

Like, gotta go to Arizona because that's so cool.

So they're not like really an opener, you know?

Yeah.

It's just so crazy.

Like, Taylor's out here, like, humbling Phoebe Bridgers.

You know what I mean?

Like, Phoebe Bridgers is like a huge act and she's like now an opener.

Yeah, I'm trying to see where she's opening.

It doesn't look like she's doing a lot.

Oh, she's one of the East Rutherfords.

Oh.

And I'm sure they'll be special guests, do you think?

Oh, of course.

Of course, of course.

But not as much as she used to, but definitely.

Like for maybe people who she's collabed with.

Like maybe Nashville

Stapleton.

Boni Ver.

Oh, Nashville is going to be Chris Tapleton.

He'll be whispering.

Because maybe like one song per tour, she'll bring out the person that she collabed with.

Oh, I love that.

Love that.

Loving being part of the strategy team for Team Taylor.

Honestly, like, you're really good at stuff like that.

Like, I feel like you could work for Taylor Nation, you know?

I feel like I could too.

Love that for you.

you.

Except you're just like a hater to your core.

So.

That's so not true.

When it comes to Taylor.

No, no, no.

Compared to you.

Yeah.

Since I don't love her at the level that you do, I'm a hater.

Compared to a lay person, I'm obsessed.

You're like such a hater.

It's disgusting.

It's disgusting.

Well, I'm happy for everyone.

I'm happy for me.

I'm going to try and.

Is there a Florida date?

There is Tampa in April.

But like, if you guys are going to Nashville for Snitch's birthday, like, why couldn't I go?

Because you never come anywhere.

Sure, come.

You never, I'm ready.

Like, you never invite me.

Great.

I'll tell Margo she'll be thrilled to have someone else to contribute to the price of the tickets.

That's really why she's bringing us.

Of course.

She's bringing us for financial support.

But it's okay because as long as I'm included.

Yeah.

Like

you're not going to stop me from having a good time.

No, right.

Like 100%.

100%.

Can't wait, Snitch, to celebrate your big birthday with you.

Your big sisters love you.

Totally.

We love you.

We love you so much.

So much.

So all the people who write to Snitch and tell her what we say on the episodes, please share with her that her, quote, big sisters love her so much.

Just, let's all send her messages like right now.

Margo, your big sisters love you so much.

She's going to be so confused.

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

I genuinely, I truly am.

We're shifting gears because Migos rapper Takeoff has been shot dead in Houston.

Rapper Takeoff, best known as one-third of the hip-hop group Migos, was shot and killed Tuesday morning, a rep confirmed.

The hitmaker died in a shooting after a fight broke out over a dice game at a private party at a billiards and bowling establishment in downtown Houston, TMZ reported.

He was 28 years old.

A rep who was not authorized to speak publicly confirmed the rapper's death.

Houston police and fire officials arrived on the scene at 2.40 a.m.

following multiple reports of a shooting.

Footage obtained by TMZ showed Migos member Quavo and others gathered around Takeoff, who was lying on the ground.

Oh God, they were there.

The clip reportedly showed the group trying to move his body before they put him back down and shouted for help.

The man was pronounced dead at the scene.

Police said two additional victims were transported to nearby hospitals.

Police did not release the identities of those victims, but said the person killed was a man in his late 20s.

And that would be takeoff.

That is terrible.

Like such young people.

Yes, the victim's identity won't be officially released until it is verified by the county coroner.

So it hasn't been fully verified yet.

But this is what sources are saying and what TMZ is reporting.

That's terrible.

That's really horrible to be so young.

I'm sorry, excuse me.

So young and you just go out and you're dead.

Yeah.

It's terrible.

It's a terrible story.

And like I was looking, there are so many tributes already coming out.

I think this is like really shaking people up.

No, it's terrible.

Yeah.

It's terrible.

So we'll keep you posted

as they, you know, verify information that comes out.

Just a really sad news to wake up to.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

It is the story that was requested by claudia though i'm so happy to be talking about as well ryan murphy wanted justin timberlake to play will schuster and i just want to say you guys remember i said like two weeks ago on the podcast that to me will schuster is justin timberlake no no and when you said it i was like oh my god like you're a genius you said it i didn't even think i was having an original thought like they just are the same no i think that like someone writing a character for justin timberlake and then casting going out and bringing back matthew morrison is perfect casting Yeah, it really is.

So Justin Timberlake as the director of the Glee Club, that's who Ryan Murphy initially had in mind when casting the pilot for Glee, his hit dramedy on Fox.

During his appearance on the first episode of the podcast, and That's What You Really Missed.

Oh, that's a good name.

He admitted that he had someone other than Matthew Morrison in mind when he first went looking for his choir director, William Schuster.

Quote, the pilot was written for Justin Timberlake, Mr.

Shu, Ryan admitted for the first time to Kevin McHale and Jedna Ushkowitz, the hosts of the podcast.

The episode ended at that point.

So anyone who wants more details will have to listen in next week.

Okay, wait, I just want to say, like,

Justin Timberlake, like not doing the role is even better because I feel like what made Mr.

Shu like such a freak, which is really what his character was, was that like he thought he was like a Justin Timberlake type.

Right.

So if it was Justin, like maybe we would have.

We would have thought he was cool.

Like because he's Justin Timberlake, but the fact that it was like, you know, Matthew Morrison and every time he would like dance and sing, he thought he was Justin timberlike because that's like such a teacher thing like yeah it was perfect it was perfect but in hindsight i think justin timberlake if he was offered the role and he declined it i think he made a mistake like uh matthew morrison won an emmy for his role as mr shoe yeah and the the show was huge both in popularity and in critical acclaim like i don't know what he was doing in those years but not much nothing was bigger than glee at that time yeah no i mean it's never i feel like um people are always talking about this on what happens live like as an actor who you know

acts for a long time, like you're not, your radar for what's a good role and what's a bad role isn't perfect.

And sometimes you are going to pass on like the role of a lifetime because you thought it was going to be like some dumb indie project and it ends up being, you know, Superman.

Yeah.

So no one can really truly know.

It's unclear whether he turned down, was unavailable.

Right.

So there's no way of knowing that.

We'll find out next week.

I'm sure he's kicking himself.

I'm sure, probably not.

I'm sure he's like, no, it wasn't the right role for me.

Like, it wouldn't have been right still, but he's wrong.

Yeah, he's wrong.

Yeah, no, just to like make himself feel better, which I respect because like, you know, everyone has things in life.

Obviously, not on the scale of like being cast in like a major TV show, but everyone has things in life that like they wish they did at the time, like a regret, you know, for me.

The list goes on.

I have it on my phone.

Right.

So, um.

I think a good way of coping with that is like ignoring it, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just sticking to your, sticking to your guns.

Yeah, but I do appreciate I'm watching Drevins Live because Andy like plays a game.

He's like, is it true that you were almost this character?

And people who acknowledge it and like acknowledge it was like an enormous, you know, misjudgment on their part.

I actually appreciate that sort of vibe.

And I also love knowing like who was up for certain roles

versus who got it.

It makes it interesting to like see the vision, how they got to, like, see, with, with Justin Tibber, like, I can literally see it.

Literally.

You look exactly like they had the same like cringy vibe.

Also, Ryan revealed that his glee co-creator Ian Brennan wanted Shu to be a crystal meth addict in an earlier dark version of the script.

He said it was sort of like election, but the NC17 version of Show Choir with a weird protagonist who was unraveling.

What I loved was the idea of kids in high school.

It seems like shows that work or TV experiences work feature people going through first times.

That's very true.

Yeah, no, he basically said like the original idea for Glee is like not what it ended up at at all.

It was like a very dark, like weird show where like this meth head was teaching kids how to sing.

Like, honestly, it sounds so funny.

The way it ended is ended up.

Like Glee really was a perfect show.

So I have no qualms, but it is really interesting to see like what almost was, you know?

Yeah.

I want them to do like on this podcast.

I know Jenna Oshkowitz actually listens to the show.

So like Jenna, if you're hearing this, I want you to do like a whole, maybe like a couple of episodes, like a series on the cameos.

Like when it's Paltrow.

When they get to that episode, they will.

So are they going episode by episode?

Is that what those, is that what a rewatch show is?

Yeah.

They watch.

So they do it on the office.

That's that's what they do about the office.

Yeah.

And like OC.

OC one.

Laguna Beach one.

I think there are so many.

And so since this was the first episode, they probably did the pilot and then they had Ryan to talk about like what the vision was.

Also, their other podcast was called Show Mance.

Showmance, yeah.

And they did recap episodes, but I don't think in order.

Got it.

Okay.

It wasn't a rewatch podcast.

It was just like a

fun tings podcast.

And now they've been like formalized.

They have like the official.

The official rewatch podcast.

And I can't think of a more worthy show.

I mean, it's a ripe and the documentary right and also it's like because it is so recent it's like still top of mind and it's fun to like put the pieces together versus a show that was so long ago that's like

it it you forgot how you felt at the time and like the narrative and just like the the vibe from glee like is still playing itself out of course like the funny girl thing just re brought up so much of the glee plotline for so many people so even though yeah it has been however many years, like we're still talking about it literally every day.

Yeah.

Every day.

I am.

It's, and it's a show that like has so much drama and like all that stuff, but it's also a show that's never really been formally deep dived into.

Yeah.

So it's like, I'm not even getting fatigued by it, you know?

It's just, it's a perfect show.

I also feel like it's a show in a few years that could be brought back because it's just the same format.

Like, oh, you mean with totally new actors?

Yeah, like a reboot.

Right.

Like maybe even Mr.

Shu and Coach Sue and then new high high school students.

I would love that.

You know, because that to me is like a recipe for success versus like trying to recreate old shows with new characters.

Like Fuller House was a decent way of doing that.

Yeah, but also they had the same cast.

So that was a, but they phased out a lot of the older, like Bob Saget, like they weren't on.

They were on like the first episode, but then it was really just DJ, Stephanie, and the neighbor,

Kimmy Schmidt, whatever her name was.

So that's not a reboot.

That's a like reunion almost.

No, it's a reboot because

then their kids on the show became characters.

Like, right.

It's like Raven's home.

It's like Raven's on it, but it's not really about Raven.

It's about like the kids.

You know, Gossip Girl.

Is that a reboot?

Yes, but Gossip Girl, they don't have any of the old characters.

No.

So I don't know what it's called when they bring back the young people from the old show and make them the old people now.

Right.

That is something else.

It's like a continuation of the show.

Yeah.

It's a reboot.

It's a reboot.

Yeah.

Anyways, I think I'll take a glee reboot at any time as long as

Coach Sue

and Mr.

Shu.

And it's a great way to teach kids about like different musical genres, musical eras, you know, so much of what I know.

We were just talking about this, like from, you know, Fleetwood Mac.

Like I know all these songs because of Glee, Prince.

And I, when, when I, I remember sitting down for the episodes and they were like, today's lesson is like Michael Jackson.

I'm like, ugh.

Michael Jackson.

And then you end up really liking, like, having a respect.

That was a bad example because like Michael Jackson is like hella problematic, but like I can't keep using the Fleetwood Mac, but like journey.

Yeah, right.

Like you would, you would leave the episode.

It was really like educational with an enormous respect for this older band that like your parents used to listen to and you didn't really care about.

Right.

In addition to just learning many things about, you know, the world, I feel like it was really like a huge show, like had the cultural impact.

It was just, I mean, the episode on the school shooting, that was like one of like, that was a cultural reset for me.

It was the craziest episode.

I don't remember that.

Was it later episode?

Um, no, no, because they were all still in school because Brittany was there.

Maybe it actually, yes, it was some of the Glee Project characters.

And like a gun went off and all the kids like went into

drill mode, but it was like there wasn't an actual active shooter.

Like somebody brought a gun to school and it just like fired in the locker and like.

whatever.

But it was the whole time you're watching the episode, you think that there is an active shooter.

It was a very good episode.

So you were just like tackling difficult issues.

David, that jock who tried to commit suicide, like they were really, I feel like it was a very good educational show and kids could use that these days.

Yeah.

It was a great show.

It's a great show.

So I look forward to other news that comes out from the podcast.

Yeah.

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Our next story is a little more celebrity Halloween news.

Heidi Klum dressed as a worm for her annual Halloween party.

I feel like really,

I have sympathy for Heidi Klum.

Yeah.

Like she got herself into this

role.

This wormhole.

Precisely.

Maybe that's what this is signifying.

Oh, maybe it's a metaphor because it's like years and years and years ago, she had like the biggest and baddest Halloween party on the planet.

And every celebrity went, yada, yada.

And she was truly cool.

And she was truly cool.

And she always like really outdid it.

It was her party.

She did this crazy costume.

And then it became like

a corporate affair over the last like couple of years.

I've been twice.

It's one of the worst parties.

Everything is like, you want a free raiser?

Sponsored.

It's like, it's just so tacky.

It's now like, I think she makes a lot of money from it.

Good for her.

So it's not like a fun social event that a lot of of celebrities go to.

Actually, Elon Musk went this year, which is like the biggest celebrity to go in years because I was invited.

Like did he dress up as?

Something like, you know, superhero.

I don't know.

He looks, he looks

getting in shape.

He looks like kind of hot.

Bachelor.

So it's not like this fabulous event.

And I feel like now she's in a place where she has to do it every year.

And like, maybe she makes some money and that's like good for her press, but she doesn't want to do it anymore.

And she keeps out doing herself.

You know, she did the clones and then she did Jessica Rabbit and the prosthetics.

And now she's just at a place where she's tired.

No, and like the costumes are getting more extreme and stupid.

And it's like, I, it's what I'm saying.

Like, I do not know what you are.

I mean, I guess I know what a worm is, but like, what's that?

So she then, she wore like a big prosthetic worm that like attached to her face seamlessly.

So like you could really only see the slits of her eyes.

Yeah.

So it was like really well done.

It was great special effects makeup.

And then she went inside and took it off, but left the face worm on and was walking around the party with a face worm and a crystal bodysuit.

Yeah.

I just feel like she's tired.

She's tired.

And you know what?

So are we, Heidi?

It's the 21st.

It's like a Halloween party.

But I think she makes a lot of money from it.

Yeah, no, I'm sure that she does, but the costumes are just insane.

And I'm glad to know what a worm is.

So like that's good.

Right.

But usually it's just like some like obscure, obscure, not even obscure.

It's just like a bunch of prosthetics like to be something that I have no idea what that is.

Right.

So I just feel like the party's gone downhill over the last couple of years.

And I feel like she should really do one more, like go out with a bang, make it actually cool.

And I'm sorry, like doing it in New York, like no one cool lives here.

Like you really got to do it in LA if you want it to be like popping with celebs.

I think she needs to go, she needs to have a final one.

Like I think she needs to retire this.

That's just how I feel.

I don't know if she would.

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She also partnered with Trick-or-Treat UNICEF USA to help raise awareness for its annual Halloween campaign, which raises money for children in need, according to a press release.

Lovely.

It's a lot of work is what I'm hearing.

And 10 hours in the chair to be a worm.

Right.

Right.

And like you could go to spared Halloween.

Right.

Like we did.

And

we didn't look low budget at all.

No.

Us?

Low budget?

No.

Never.

Never.

It's not a possibility.

I don't even know those words.

But speaking of Halloween, we got a few more celeb Halloween costumes.

So let's just go through them.

We had Kendall Drenner.

Jenner dressed as a cucumber.

Cute.

Like

cute.

Cute.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think one of the best costumes was Clueless Star Donald Basin.

Daughter dressed up as Dion,

and he was

his character.

I, first of all, his daughter is adorable.

Her costume was perfection.

Like, literally, I could not find one thing wrong.

She literally looked like Stacey Dash did 10 years ago, 15 years ago.

Um,

winner-winner chicken dinner.

Like, I love the cultural reference.

I love, it's his own movie.

She's adorable.

I could not, best, best dressed.

Honestly, best dressed.

Agreed.

Lizzo was Miss Piggy in a new costume.

Really cute.

Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox were

a priest and a something,

like being very sacrilegious.

People, I think, were offended.

Yeah, I mean, if that was my religion, like I like, I would be fucking annoyed.

But like, I was looking at this, and it's like, I feel like they wanted to offend.

I feel like maybe

just like drum something up.

What is she dressed as?

Like, I don't know what the latex name is.

It's like dubstep fairy.

Right, no, it's like latex sexy, like

latex sexy.

Like, it's like a, it's like.

She looks like a dominatrix.

It's like a bikini.

Yeah.

And she said, um, on Sundays, we take communion.

So they're just like, oh, that's kind of rude.

Religious people.

Are they religious?

No, that's what they are.

What I'm asking, like, are they?

Or like...

Not that I've seen.

I just think when it comes to halloween i think

avoiding religion is like a general like a good general rule of thumb like don't dress as a rabbi don't dress as like an arab sheikh like don't don't dress like that but and i think sometimes people do a costume and then like they find out afterwards like oh like that i offended someone but right like when harry hamlin wore a swastika i'm sure he was really um but these people

and this costume like they want to offend yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like this, the intention was to stir up right because it's not like he even looks like a traditional priest.

No.

But I just think, like, if you have to question your costume, maybe don't.

No, but like, that, that was the point for them is what is the vibe I'm getting.

There are a lot of

Halloween like missteps in Hollywood.

Honestly, I think one of the craziest things ever, because it was not even that long ago, was when Julianne Huff did blackface.

Like, that was psychotic.

Yeah.

And of course, Prince Harry, Nazi.

You see some guy dress as a Nazi in Soho and like was being kicked out of local establishments.

Yeah.

A lot of people, I saw like a lot of videos and pictures of people dressed as Nazis this year.

And it's just not the vibe.

No.

Stop.

No.

Stop.

It's not cute.

No.

It's giving.

It's giving...

What is it giving?

It's giving moronic.

That's what it's giving.

Yeah.

Yeah, those are just a few that come to mind.

Of course, you know, Luann DeLesseps as Princess Diana.

Not Princess Diana.

Diana Ross.

Not sure if that was Blackface, but it was a little too close.

Yeah.

A little too close.

So I'm glad Halloween's over, personally.

Like I'm done.

Yeah, that's a wrap on Halloween.

And I hadn't seen Elon's costume, but now I see it.

He's looking good.

He's just dressed like.

I can't believe he went to that party.

I know.

It's like, it's such a, it really is like a low-budget party.

It's like, it's never really that.

star-studded.

It hasn't been in years.

And maybe he was just like in town in New York.

He brought his mom.

Yeah.

And they were like, he's looking for like a family fun, friendly party.

So we checked his email.

What Halloween parties have I been invited to?

I just feel like he's like, ooh, Heidi Klum.

Right.

Maybe he was like interested in Heidi.

Maybe he was.

No, Heidi has a boyfriend.

Heidi.

Or he just like didn't know yet that it's just a PR event.

Like, right.

He thought it was going to be.

Right.

Cause you hear, excuse me.

Oh, my God.

You hear like, wow,

Heidi Klum starting a Halloween party sponsored by Amazon Prime.

Like, it does sound pretty, pretty stunning.

Yeah.

But it's not.

It's not.

It's really not.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story a little behind the scenes news from andy about the real households of beverly hills reunion okay he's revealing the contents of lisa rena's untouched reunion envelopes oh yeah she brought like a yellow envelope yeah so uh andy addressed fans lingering desperation to know what was inside the untouched manila envelopes lisa rena brought with her to set that day where did he address his reunion on his radio andy show he said that the envelopes contained receipts relating to the elton john aides foundation ticket snafu he said quote we just wound up cutting it all out there were a lot of decisions made in the edit to cut down many conversations.

He said, every topic from the season was not only discussed that day, but also beat to death, informing viewers that the group filmed for a very long time and talked about a lot.

He said, we had a lot to get to in three episodes.

If the reunion had been any longer, I feel like people would have complained that it was too long, but now people are complaining, why didn't you talk about this more?

Why didn't you talk about that more?

Actually, like, I don't really care that.

that it was the Elton John stuff and that they cut it out, but we did spend so much time on that.

And like Lisa Rinna really was the villain in that story too.

Yeah.

And I think the whole point was missed of the Elton John thing, which was like, not whether or not you bought the table, who paid for it, this or that, which is that Lisa Rinna took them and they didn't say thank you in the way that Lisa was asking Garcel to say thank you about

the sauce.

No, the point was completely lost on everyone.

Completely lost.

Now it's about like this Elton John thing, who paid, who goes, who was about it.

Like who bought the table?

Not about that.

Not about that.

I'm glad that they skipped it because it's infuriating

then and it would have been infuriating now.

And they resolved it on the show.

So I really feel like when something is resolved on the show in a real way, I agree.

I don't need to dig it up again.

I completely agree.

Also, Radio Andy is like always making

noise, news.

Yeah.

So John Mayer was on Radio Andy talking about midnights.

I saw that you were watching that.

I was watching that.

He said a whole bunch of nothing, but basically

somebody brought up midnights and John was like, yeah, no, like I went and listened to it.

One, he was nice.

He was like, one, because she's like talented.

And two, you know, you're always like looking for yourself.

and he's like, I do think like we've reached a point, you know, what is it, like 10, 15 years where like it's like kind of crazy to be like still singing about that relationship, um, like beating a dead horse kind of.

He's like, but whatever.

Like he was like, he was pretending to be cool with it, but he was also like not.

And I mean, he's not wrong, but like, that's the tailor way.

Like, you're gonna, you're gonna hurt me.

Like, bet.

I'll make it your fucking problem forever, bitch.

How long were they in a relationship for?

It's, it wasn't ever formalized.

Like, we weren't, we they never publicly stepped out like like how long were they not talking

but it's so um

it's so

traumatizing for her because like like i think she sees it as like a situation where she was taken advantage of because she was so young like what happened he was she's 19 he's big and old they wrote a song together he thought she was so great and i think he just like was like like inappropriate in like his pursuit of her given the difference in their like levels of power power levels of age and in the words of taylor swift give me back my girlhood it was mine first

coulda woulda shoulda i think that's about john whenever she refers to like being 19 that's about john and how old was she with jake gylenhall 21 okay oh so he took the girlhood before jake because i was gonna say like i feel like jake so i was thinking that that maybe that song was about jake gylenhall because we know jake gylenhall took her virginity

um but i don't think she was talking talking about virginity in the word girlhood.

I think she was talking about like her innocence.

Yes.

So

I do think that could have whata shoulda is still about John Mayer because she talks about being 19 and 19.

Don't you think 19's too young to be pleased with the girl in the dress cried the whole way.

If you want to know what went on between her and John, it's like just listen to that song.

I think she was like, he took an interest in her.

She couldn't fucking believe it.

She's like this young on the new on-the-scene scene girly and he just like was mean to her and like played with her and she was like became obsessed because like when you're 19 and john mayer wants to like hang out with you of course you're gonna become obsessed so like do you think they ever kissed yeah yeah yeah i just i don't think they had sex okay okay but like it was romantic i think it was like a fling but for him but it was like one of many flings and for her right it was just like it was her whole

it was her whole world she's like newly famous she's 19 like and he's such a respected artist like so you have to think of it from the art point of view where it's like this person who's like i respect so much thinks my art is great.

And there's a video compilation.

I will find it for you.

In like the months that they like wrote Half of My Heart Together were hanging out before I think they really started.

They like did a bunch of press together.

Not press, but like events, songwriting conventions.

And he's like tapped with introducing her.

He just like speaks about her in a few different instances so.

lovingly like he's so taken by her talent and her presence and her beauty.

So somebody stitched together like all the times in that year where he like, you know, introduced her at an award show or did something and it's like glowing.

Like to hear John Mayer talk about you like that, it's, it's breathtaking.

Like I wish he would talk about me like that.

And what he was saying on the interview was like, yeah, there's a lot of assholes out there.

I don't think I'm like the biggest asshole of all of them.

Like I don't really think what I did was that like crazy.

So it's like to still be talking about it 10 or 15 years later seems excessive.

I agree with that as well.

I agree with that as well.

They're doing construction on Jackie's house.

So it's time to end the podcast.

Yeah, it sounds like we're in New York.

Yes.

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