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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast happy.

Oh, shit, I haven't fucked that up in a while.

Sorry.

Welcome back to the Toast Happy Monday.

Hope everyone had a fabulous weekend.

Hey, Jax, how are you, Dern?

I'm dern good, but you know exactly how I'm dern since we've been together every minute of every day since you arrived.

We had the exact same weekend.

We had the exact same morning.

Every night we had the exact same night's sleep.

It's true.

So we are incredibly sympathico, hymnatico, erotico.

So I would say we are dern pretty good.

You know, we had a great weekend.

We're just tired.

Okay, so let's talk.

I have like a list of things I want to talk about.

And the first thing on my list says stay-at-home moms.

So this has been a really eye-opening weekend for me because Zach was out of town for a wedding.

So it was like me and you with Rolled.

Margo was here too, but like, let's be honest with one another.

She was totally useless.

As stated, she doesn't do divers.

She doesn't do divers.

So it was like really me and you just like making sure, you know, Harry was taken care of.

And it was truly like an eye-opening experience to me.

Obviously, I don't have any children.

And I, and of course, I respect moms.

I respect stay-at-home moms.

Whenever anyone says, like, stay-at-home mom, hardest job in the world, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like, I feel like that's just something you say.

However, I

have a whole new outlook on life.

And I actually know we have so many listeners who are stay-at-home moms.

And I just want to speak directly to them because like the way you have my utmost respect and let's lay it out.

Like of all the things that are like required to take care of Harry from the time he wakes up to the time he goes to bed, I probably contributed 15%.

Would you say that's accurate?

Sure.

If that's how you feel.

Like if that's what you is that an underestimation or an overestation?

I think that's accurate.

Yeah, like I like, I didn't feed him, but like I was there when you fed him.

And like, okay I changed three diapers over the course of like two days So how many diapers?

It's probably like 10 total

I would have to count maybe more so it's like yeah 20%

um so whatever like I'm saying I didn't even do half like a like a parent 50% I did less way less than half um and after the first day we were like sitting on the couch and I was literally not okay.

I'm like my legs hurt, my back hurts, I'm so tired.

I could fall asleep for a month.

The way like you, especially because Harry's at the age where like he can't walk or crawl.

So like he needs to be transported everywhere and he still like could you know climb off the couch So like you need to just like constantly be watching constantly be holding him like your hands are constantly being used and like the way I'm literally not okay like I feel like on this Monday how I would feel after the longest week of my life like I'm so deceased and again I didn't even do like the brunt of the work like you were the one giving him the baths and feeding him and like doing most of the work but like I was being helpful.

You are.

I'm so tired.

And like the way I've just been thinking now about how like being a stay-at-home mom and I feel like people look at being a stay-at-home mom as a privilege which it is because you have to have a partner who makes enough money for you to be a stay-at-home mom because you don't get paid for being a stay-at-home mom which is something we should talk about 100% um

so like it is a luxury but it's I'm telling you like there's no job harder there's no job harder the coal miners could never the coal miners really could never because like the coal miners get to get out there they get to have me time you know they get to go socially on things outside of just like being a little baby no and then beyond the baby uh the laundry the cleaning the dishes, the non-stop just like house tings, like

non-stop on your feet.

I'm just, I'm blown away.

Like I'm truly blown away.

I'm so glad that now you understand like why when you have been saying in the past, like stay-at-home moms like deserve and I always believe that, but like

until you experience it, you really don't know exactly what they're doing.

And I wasn't

never stopped 100%.

I wasn't even doing 50%.

Right.

You guys, like stay-at-home moms, you have all my love, all my respect.

Like I'm, I'm I'm shook.

It was really an eye-opening weekend for me.

Today's episode goes out to the stay-at-home moms.

Yeah, because I've never been here where Zach wasn't here.

So, like, with Zach, it's like Zach, you, me.

Like,

but it was just me and you and like really you, because I was doing like the bare minimum.

Let me just say that.

I bore witness to it.

I bore witness.

And for like the 15% that I did, like, I'm deceased.

Yeah.

I'm not okay.

I know.

And everyone says, like, even though right now it's hard to like be carrying him all the time, to be always be holding him, like, once they start crawling and walking, like, it's even more physical you gotta chase them yeah you gotta chase them but that's why those playstations when you can just like pop them into something let's talk about that let's like you just hope that he likes it for more than 20 minutes but really he's a 20 minute at a time kind of guy no the way i love those what do you call those little things you put them in and they like they can't walk yet but like their feet dangle and they can like run around so there's a few things like there are the walkers which they walkers they say that they shouldn't spend like more than 15 minutes at a time in the walkers it could make their legs what whatever you know what sometimes a walker saves a life just put them in no because i've been been thinking like, you know, when I have children, there will be a walker in every room in my house.

What I, what he was in outside is not a walker.

He can't move in it.

It's a bouncy thing.

They say those are really good.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

But I call them, I don't know what the technical term, I call them PlayStations because they sit, they could go 360 and there's toys all around.

Yeah, okay, okay.

Well, they're like heaven on earth because like, like sometimes I just need to get this kid out of my arm.

Like, yeah.

Oh my God, you guys, I just really wanted to start off the show on that sentiment.

Like I wouldn't, stay-at-home moms deserve to be respected.

And you know what?

Like, check in on your local stay-at-home mom.

She's probably not okay.

Totally.

And they're doing the most important job in the world, which is raising humans.

So you're not just like changing diapers, doing chores.

You're also like responsible for

so much.

You guys, well, you're responsible for what kind of people they are that are entering the world.

Right.

No, I'm telling you, like.

It's the most important work.

I'm a different girl than I was on Friday.

Like, I thought it would be like a chill weekend.

No.

There was nothing chill about it.

Like, nary a moment.

I've never been more excited to be locked in the studio.

I'm so excited to sit here and talk for an hour.

No, and like adult things.

The way I

adore Harry, this is no slight against Harry.

Like I would literally take several, several bullets for him.

The way I need to get away from him is not normal.

Like, but then it's that, it's that gravitational pull, you know.

Then you get away from him and then you miss him.

Because he went down last night.

I was like, honestly, thank God.

Like, for real, I needed a night.

And then this morning, like, the first thing I was like, where's Harold?

So there is this like gravitational pull, but there's also this gravitational push.

And I just got moms can relate.

It was just very interesting, the pull and the push.

Yeah.

The push and the pull of it all.

I have like a list of things I want to talk about.

I have a list of things in my head.

Okay.

So this one crosses.

I'll show you a little bit more list and then I'll see if I missed anything.

So there's two like business tings I want to talk about.

Okay.

The first is a special Not Like Other Girls announcement.

You guys know there's three shows left.

Like the tour is over.

But up until this point, I have not filmed any of my shows and I would like to release a special.

So I've added two shows shows in New York at the Grammarcy Theater at the beginning of December, December 5th and 6th.

It's a really small venue.

It's much smaller than I'm used to because, you know, I like sell out like stadiums now.

It's the Grammarcy Theater.

And, you know, when you film, you have to like cut a bunch of seats.

So there is really limited seating and there is a Patreon pre-sale.

I do imagine that it'll sell out in Patreon pre-sale.

But you could be a part of it today if you went to patreon.com slash the toast.

That's what I was saying.

And then I'm also adding a show in Delaware because I need like a practice show before my New York shows that I film and I wanted it to be local.

I'm like, where is a local hotspot that I have not infiltrated yet?

And justice for the Delaware girlies.

So Wilmington, Delaware, and then two shows in New York.

General on sale starts on Friday.

If you're a Patreon member, it'll be Wednesday at 10 a.m.

Eastern Time.

It's never too late to become a Patreon member, patreon.com slash the toast.

And we have new content up on the Patreon.

I was...

I literally before bed last night watching our vlog.

We told you guys on Friday that we created this like turnt ass vlog and we hadn't watched it yet.

And then Friday night, we actually watched it and it is literally the most unhinged piece of content we've ever released.

It is a vlog of us baking cookies, which sounds, you know, rather pleasant.

Yeah.

Spoiler alert, it was not pleasant.

Like nary a moment was pleasant.

I never felt pleased.

We couldn't stop fighting, first of all.

Yeah.

We knew we were making mistakes as we were doing it.

Nevertheless, we persisted.

And nevertheless, it turned out we made mistakes we didn't even know we were making.

Everyone let us know all the things that we did wrong.

I will be getting a KitchenAid mixering bowl.

I was shopping for one last night.

They're really expensive, but they're kind of gorgeous.

It's like the thing that everyone puts on their registry.

And like, that's the thing.

Did you not not put one on your registry?

No, why would I know that I needed that?

I had never baked a day in my life.

And also, it would have just like sat in all my apartments until now.

And like, it's fine.

I'll get one now.

And now I, I know what color I want.

Then I probably would have gotten like a weird color.

Now I'm going to get the cream one.

And I'm really excited.

And I'm really glad for this vlog, even though we were clowns and I think we should be embarrassed about everything that we did.

It was a learning.

And the way we looked, like, let's be real, at least myself.

I looked good until I showered in the final scene.

I looked atrocious.

I hadn't even showered.

And it was right when I I got off the plane and I was just looking like a big beast.

It was a learning moment and now I know so many new things about baking.

I'm going to have this new contraption.

So I'm going to bake even more.

I will never melt butter again.

Otherwise you guys will come for my throat.

Yeah, apparently that's like a cardinal sin of baking.

It makes sense.

It totally changes the texture.

Like you go from having this like thick thing to like butter melted.

But you're like literally mushing it anyway.

I know.

But baking is a science, really.

You can't like lessons in chemistry.

The different elements matter.

I guess.

But nevertheless, the vlog is really being lauded as some of our best work.

So

you can get access to the pre-sale and that vlog and like literally 300 other episodes on patreon.com/slash a toast.

$7.99 every month for five extra episodes, podcasts, vlogs from your girls, and access to things before everyone else, like tickets for my New York and Delaware shows.

The other thing I want to talk about is what you're wearing.

What I'm wearing.

So everyone knows the sweatshirt.

We originally launched it almost four four years ago, and it's our best-selling item of all time.

We wear them all the time.

People always ask when they're coming back.

A few years ago, we made them again, but still, so many people are new toasters or didn't get them then, and people always ask about them.

And so, we are relaunching these sweatshirts on Thursday, and I'm so excited because I can get even more, even though I have all of them.

I just want one in every size.

You never know what the vibe is.

So, today I'm wearing size medium.

This is the new, this is the totally new one.

So, you could see like it's all fresh and nice.

New color.

No stains.

And I do think it'll probably be our last restock with that exact design.

Because it is the TMT, but I still think the toast of it as TMT.

Me too.

And I'm not going to be so strict.

I'm not going to be so strict, but this is really vintage merch.

And it's like the cutest, comfiest thing ever.

So

Thursday morning, 10 a.m.

Eastern time, you'll be able to get these sweatshirts.

So get them while they're hot because they're literally the cutest thing we've ever made.

And everyone has been like asking for a restock.

So like alert all your friends that like the restock is happening.

And like that's why it's Monday.

We're letting you know.

Thursday, we'll remind you all week, but set your alarms.

Set your alarms.

Now the other thing I wanted to talk about was on Saturday night, me, you and Snitch watched the Crawdads movie.

We did.

Which I did.

Where the Crawdads sing.

I did not read the book.

I was like, didn't want to read the book.

And then you were like, you probably wouldn't even like it.

So I didn't read it.

And then I didn't see the movie because like, who cares?

And then when we were all out to dinner, everyone was talking about it.

And I was like, kind of feeling left out.

I'm like, what is this book even about?

And then you were like, would you want me to tell you like the whole thing?

And I was like, yeah, I'm like never going to read the book or see the movie.

Then you gave me like a brief synopsis and it sounded like the, like I was so mad.

Like I was, I wish that I had read it or seen it.

Like the way you described it and just like the story in general, so not what I imagined like at all that it would be.

So then I was really lit to see the movie, even though I knew like the ending and like, you know, the whole thing.

So we watched the movie.

And I have to say, I know there was mixed reviews, especially from a lot of the people who watched the movie after they had read the book.

They like hated it and they're wrong and stupid because the movie was literally the best movie I've seen in years.

I thought it was incredible.

And I just want to know like where Reese Witherspoon found all these hot male actors.

Like every man in the movie was hotter than the next.

I mean, Tate, obsessed.

Even that like freak Chase, so hot.

Like even the dad.

The dad.

He was like fake Josh Jumel.

He was giving daddy.

You're right.

I totally forgot he was hot, even though he was like a fucking prick.

Psychotic.

Oh my God, you're right.

He was hot.

Agreed.

I don't know where this narrative came from that the Cardads movie was not good, not worth seeing, and that especially if you read the book, you wouldn't like it.

I love the book five out of five.

It's an amazing book.

There's a reason why it was on the New York Times bestseller list for over 100 weeks.

Probably still is there.

The movie was incredible.

It was the book to a T.

It was exactly how you picture the book.

There was nothing that the movie did or didn't do that should make fans of the book upset or like felt like the movie strayed from the integrity of the book.

It was incredible.

I don't know why everybody isn't talking about this movie, watching this movie, like justice for everyone involved in the movie, justice for Reese, justice for Delia Owens, the author, like justice for Daisy Jones, who like put her whole heart and soul into the movie.

She's incredible.

For the little actress who played Kaya, who deserves an Oscar.

The little actress who played Kaya, everyone keep an eye on her.

Keep an eye on her.

It was amazing.

It was a perfect movie.

What's wrong with everyone that there was even like this conversation that it wasn't good enough?

I literally don't know.

Like it was.

It was so good.

It was so good.

And then like, it was as good as the book.

And Taylor had written a song for it.

And like, obviously I knew nothing about the book.

So when I heard this song, I'm like, this song is fucking weird.

And then when it came out on the credits, I'm like, this song is perfect.

It's literal perfection, Caroline.

Perfection.

And like, honestly, I kind of want to live in the marsh.

So simple.

But so complicated.

It's so complicated.

And it was like, it was emotional.

It was like.

a love story.

It was so.

And if you've never read the book and no one told you the plot over dinner, like you will thoroughly enjoy it.

Yeah, Margo didn't read the book and didn't know the plot.

And when she had seen it, she actually had seen it already before we sat down and watched it and she loved it.

So she agreed to watch it again.

She was like shook the first time she saw it.

Like, I wish I had had that experience.

I like love to ruin things for myself.

I'm such like a fucking turd.

Like, you know what?

If I never described it to you, you never would have wanted to watch it.

We could have never gotten you to watch, you know, something 1950s in the marsh.

No, it's so true.

Like the way my stubbornness is like really affecting my life,

I won't change because I am stubborn, but I'm at least self-aware enough to acknowledge like it's one of my worst qualities for sure.

Yeah, but I'll keep pushing you.

Yeah, well, that's the thing.

Like when you have a sister as great and fabulous and such a good mom and such a beautiful woman,

she's pushing you out of your comfort zone.

And you would think like, oh, she's a mom now.

She doesn't have time to deal with her stubborn, grown-ass sister.

But here's the thing.

She does.

She finds the time.

Yeah.

And I find the cases that are worthy causes because I know you so well.

Yeah, you do.

And they've really never pushed you to do something that you didn't enjoy or except for We Are the Brennans.

I never told you to read that.

That was a religious choice.

One of of the worst books I've literally ever come across in my life.

Yes.

And we'll finish it.

Really unremarkable.

What's so funny is that month she was choosing between It Happen One Summer and We Are the Brennans.

And we were actually really glad she chose We Are the Brennans at the time because like It Happen One Summer would have been a little awkward to talk about, I guess.

No,

in hindsight, it would have been an iconic episode.

Like everyone else, everyone's right ahead of your time.

Like everyone read the book.

They would have listened to the episode.

Like who the fuck cares about We Are the Brennans?

And then We Are the Brennans, like wasn't even a decent book.

It was literal trash.

Trash.

So if you're looking for, oh, and the thing I liked about We Are the Crawdads, We Are?

No, We Are the Crawdowns.

Oh.

We're the Crawdads thing is that it's the perfect movie to watch if you're like with a group of people and like, well, maybe it's like your family and someone's older and younger.

Like

everyone will like it.

Like it's a perfect movie to watch when you're in a big group and like everyone can't agree.

Put it on your list for the holidays.

When you're with your whole family, what to watch, that's what you should watch.

And maybe then it will get.

the shine that it deserves.

Right.

And it's not like awkward.

There's no like, there are sex scenes, but there's not like sex parts.

There's no uncomfortable.

Yeah.

Like it is the perfect movie to watch when you are with a group and like nobody can decide.

Everyone will like it.

Yeah.

So it was really a great weekend, very busy, but we got, you know, World is still, you know, kicking.

So that's good because if it was up to me, like I'm literally, you know what also I realized?

I'm low-key.

So like there are so many things you don't think about.

So I'm changing him.

All right.

I didn't even tell you this.

Nothing happened, by the way.

He seems fine.

I'm changing him.

Big duty.

Huge.

And I

flipped around to go get something.

I forget what it was.

And like, I left him on the table.

No can do.

And then when I came back, I'm like, was that like a crazy thing?

Nothing happened, but I'm like, he could have, I guess, like rolled off.

It's the thing is, you really like, you're just coming in at month eight, but like when they're newborn, you're, you

typically experience everything in stages.

When they're newborn, you would never leave them on the changing table because you're so like scared, even though they can't really move.

But then you start to see how they can move.

and it's like oh i can never leave so like you never had made that connection yeah i guess i did and i also like always tell people when they are changing him i used to like be really like a helicopter parent be like don't leave him on don't leave him unattended and people are like are you crazy i would never do that so i stopped it's like an innocent thing i guess that like i totally missed yeah i was like yeah you'll be fine bye

yeah but he was fine he was totally fine and then like another thing like his neck is just so crazy so like when i put him down one night like it's hard to like lean over the crib especially when you're a big-breasted woman um so i like plopped him down like his head

but onto the mattress and i was like i guess that was like a little rough it's onto the mattress so it's fine yeah his head is just wild he like when i woke when i picked him up one morning he literally like threw his head into my nose i'm marsha brady like oh crap my nose like literally i thought i broke my nose you know he bangs his head into like everyone so the mattress is nothing yeah okay no so he's totally fine like for sure yeah it wasn't my fault but like but typically everything happens in stages So you start to like use when he's a newborn, you're always holding new heads.

And then, you know, as he gets older and more grown, you realize the changes that are happening.

So like, and I can't stress how much I love Roald, but like, I need a break today, like, for real.

Like, I need to go out to lunch and like, maybe we're going to the mall.

Like, I need a minute, you know?

But I love him endlessly, even more every day.

No, and like, if we go to the mall, like, we're going to miss him.

Yeah.

But, like, Zach is here.

And, like, thank God.

Yeah.

So it was a great weekend.

Hope everyone listening had a great weekend, whether it was filled with Bebez or liquor, whatever.

Happy for you.

Happy for you.

We also watched House of the Dragon, which we'll be recapping at the end of the episode.

You want to know how busy the weekend was?

I didn't even get to finish my show.

I have two episodes left, same as I had last week, and I didn't get a moment to watch because when I got into bed at like 10.30, deceased, I could go to sleep.

Yeah, no, that's tough.

I didn't watch a lot of TV because my room doesn't have a TV.

Until last night.

Until last night,

Zach finally got home and I made him bring this TV from like one of the guest rooms upstairs.

I couldn't carry it by myself, but I also ordered myself a TV because I don't want to be like I spend a lot of time here.

I don't want to be like an imposition.

I've been meaning to bring that TV down for you, but the times that you spend here, you actually thought it was nice that you didn't have a TV because you read so much.

Yeah.

You must not be enjoying your book.

I'm not.

So that's why he needed a TV.

No, also like I just like, I need a TV.

Like it's time.

Okay, but I just want you to know in the past, you actually remarked about how you kind of liked not having one.

Oh, I don't remember.

Otherwise, in the last three months, I could have brought it down at any point for you.

It's funny.

It doesn't sound like something I would say, but.

That's why it was so shocking that you said it.

So I was just like, I hit my limit and and like I needed a fucking TV.

So we got that TV down and I also ordered myself a new TV because like I don't want to be stealing TVs from your other rooms.

No one's in there.

So when my new TV and also like I want the new one like not to be a brat.

So when the new one comes, I'll give Margo because Margo's room also doesn't have I'll give Margo this TV and she'll be grateful.

She better be.

So

now I'm feeling like I'll probably never leave.

Like now I have a TV.

Yeah.

Like

I've got everything I need.

You never need to leave.

Like Bryce and Thrace are having the time of their life and Miss Nolia.

And Ben finally got here last night.

Right.

And the boys were all playing outside yesterday.

It was the cutest thing.

It was a great weekend, really beautiful weather.

Now that it's October, I have to say, like, I can see how someone lives here because when my ass was here for two weeks in August, I swear to God, like I, it was actually the pits of hell.

I agree.

It was so motherfucking hot just to do anything.

Like walking Theo was horrendous.

Like I'd have to shower every time I walked him.

And now it's simply delightful.

Like there's a cool breeze.

I've been wearing leggings and a sweater every day.

And like, yeah, I'm a little warm, but my legs just aren't like ready for, you know.

You know what you haven't done yet?

Swim.

That's how busy you've been.

Now you see how I've never been in my pool without you.

100%.

100%.

So

I'm ready.

Are you?

Oh, now you're ready.

Okay.

Yeah.

I feel like we spoke about everything.

Like I was creating a list all weekend because like I was just having these like, you know, existential thoughts about life and motherhood.

Look at you.

I'm a mother.

Is this like no drama?

Is this not

helping like you feel like that's something I want to do even sooner?

It's not drawing me in, even though like there are moments, you know, like when I put him down where I'm literally sobbing like into his, you know, cookie onesie.

It definitely doesn't make me want to do it sooner.

If anything, it's making me more motivated to

work really hard and have success so that I can hire a lot of help.

Honestly, like I'm just going to acknowledge like that's the mom I'm going to be.

Like it's, I have a low threshold and you have like a very high threshold for like torture.

I do not.

like once like

I reached my limit, like I had to walk out of the room like with Harry and like you obviously can't do that.

So I just, I need to

like have enormous success so I can have a staff of people.

The thing is you really build up to the threshold of torture.

Like when I think about how I used to be, I used to be the laziest bitch alive, especially on the weekends.

I could sleep till two and then lay in bed all day and watch TV and be too tired to go out to dinner.

Yeah.

You know, but now like I'm up and then even when he takes a nap, like there's dishes, there's laundry, there's that, and like you just,

you build up to it.

Yeah.

I don't really want to.

So I'm going to be hiring staff.

Like that.

I'm going to be that.

I'm saying you're capable of more than you think.

No, I know.

I mean, especially if I'm like shove a kid out of my vagine, like I know I'm going to be like super mom and like I'm going to watch this bag and be like, haha.

And I'm going to be doing everything myself.

I'm going to be scrubbing the floors.

Big care veneers.

Yeah.

I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like a mom of four with big new veneers and like literally no, I won't let anyone help.

I'm like, Ben, get out.

I'll no staff, no nanny.

Like, no, I know.

Like, like you say things and then you become a mom and like you do things differently.

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Are you ready for our first story?

We've got some good stories today.

Yeah.

Okay, first up, the nanny is still speaking out about

Olivia and Jason.

And though we're ignoring most of the stuff, especially as it pertains to the children and the marriage and then the...

Because we don't do that.

Like after spending the weekend with Harry, like you think, like one thing about me, I respect children.

But the nanny said that Flo was sleeping with Harry Stiles before Olivia and Harry got together.

And suddenly I'm...

I'm back in.

I'm back in.

Yeah.

You know that nanny?

She has a way of pulling you in.

And I will say, though, there was like a lot of stuff that allegedly like Olivia and Jason did to her.

And like she's disgruntled for a reason, whether it was about like docking her pay or firing her without, you know, notice and being like really inappropriate, like with just like getting her involved in their family stuff.

And like none of that is okay.

None of that for me is justifiable in exploiting someone's personal life, someone that you worked for, someone that you probably signed an NDA for and somebody who you were in charge of taking care of their kids.

But it is important to admit, like she's, she has a grudge, like for a good reason.

For sure.

But I agree that it's it's that's it's not enough how you retaliate is going to the press and sharing people's private details yeah but in the final part of her exclusive interview with the daily mail olivia wild's former nanny reveals the extraordinary claim of the romance between florence pew and harry styles she said olivia told jason sudekis about floe allegedly sleeping with the singer and then jason told the nanny just before the premiere of don't worry darling the nanny told Flo about the claim.

The exchange set off a falling out between the two women and finally explained the notoriously frosty premiere of the film in Venice.

So

I mean, that was my first guess, you know?

Like she was having this moment with him and

then Olivia Wilde swooped in.

Yeah, I don't know either.

Oh, totally random.

It just reminded me of this.

You know that book, The Idea of You, that you were just telling me to read?

You know, they're making it into a movie with Ann Hathaway.

I told you that when I told you to read it.

And the pictures that came out like a few days ago, and I didn't read the book, but based on what I know about the book, it looks really good.

Right.

The book is written off of a fan fiction of somebody who like started fanfiction online about Harry Styles about this like older woman who goes to a Harry Styles concert and Harry like falls in love with her.

And everybody's been saying like Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles is that book.

Oh, have they been saying that?

Yeah, I think.

Okay, because I was thinking that too.

I thought maybe I had like an original idea for once.

Nah.

No, because it's literally about Harry Styles.

Right.

Okay.

And Harry Mild Styles.

I don't know if I necessarily, I don't know, for some reason, and I know nothing about Florence Pugh.

Like, I'm not even like a huge fan of her work.

I didn't really know her before, don't worry, darling i just don't get the vibe that she's like the kind of girl like let's say this did happen like i don't think she's the kind of girl who would sacrifice like her working reputation over a boy do you know what i mean like not showing up to premieres and like making drama i don't know i feel like a lot of the other things we've heard about why florence is disgruntled and like mad at olivia i feel like that is more in line with the character i believe she has, but I don't know her character.

I obviously don't know her personally.

And I'm not even like a huge follower.

I think that she wouldn't do all of that just because of a boy, but I think that the way Olivia acted, like being unprofessional, not showing up to set, like Florence feeling like she had to be the director at times.

Florence is probably acting the way that she's acting because of that part, you know, but if Olivia and Harry had gotten together and Olivia, you would never have known the difference and everything was really professional and above board, then I don't think Florence would have cared or would act like this.

Like maybe she would be heartbroken a little bit.

Right.

But I think she would have been professional.

But I think she feels that Olivia Wilde started the unprofessionalism.

I do feel that way.

And like, I don't know, I just, I feel like like over the years, there's been like, I just remember like as a kid, like looking at all those tabloid magazines, like nanny's always speaking out.

There's like every couple of years, there's like a crazy nanny situation.

Um, and if you would have told me that the next nanny situation is going to be Olivia Wild and Jason Sudeikas, like when they were together, I would not have believed you because they were like anything but messy.

They were like so solid for so long.

Yeah.

And I'm still having a hard time adjusting to like putting them in my like messy category.

Yeah.

You know, because for me, they're like, they've kind of been like staples.

Like, no, and it's weird because like now Harry's falling falling into the messy category and like we know nothing about his his personal life and he's like so above this like it's really they all are honestly yeah this is like some reality TV trash yeah also the nanny said that she brought uh olivia's daughter to set because she's apparently in the movie and or like has a little cameo and that's when she saw that like Olivia acting like she had never seen her act.

She said, Olivia told Jason a couple weeks after Harry started that Flo was fucking Harry and she had a boyfriend, but was fucking Harry.

then olivia started seeing harry herself it was all very quick a lot of people don't know that she said that the seemingly jealous olivia was giddy around harry styles on set in october 2020 saying the first time i noticed anything was when i took her daughter out to be in the movie olivia was acting giddy and she was putting her face in her hands and saying she couldn't believe he was so young I didn't know who Harry Styles was at that time.

And I thought, wow, I've never seen her like that.

Okay, well,

the lie detector has determined that that's a lie.

You don't know who Harry Styles is, but you literally work for like a celebrity couple.

So you're familiar with celebrity culture.

It's not like you live under a rock.

Like you live in LA.

I actually don't think there's like a single

living, breathing human person who lives in LA who doesn't know who Harry Styles is.

In October 2020.

Right.

No,

I'm suspicious of her.

That my radar just went off.

Yeah.

That's fucking weird.

But that's what she's saying.

Okay.

Well,

I don't know.

Either you have to believe everything this nanny says or none of it.

Right.

And I'm kind of leaning towards everything.

Well, it's just because Olivia kind of validated it with the salad dressing thing.

Like there was a thing about salad and then she posted the recipe as a joke, but it's like, okay, so there was a salad.

So there's truth to it.

Yeah.

No, by the way, amazing call.

Okay.

Well, I guess we're believing it all then.

No, I don't know.

I'm not believing any of it, but I just do,

I'll keep it.

on file.

Yeah, but I'm not, the narrative for me isn't that Flo is upset because she was hooking up with Harry.

It's like maybe she wasn't Let's not make Flo like the villain in all this like being like a caddy like teenager.

I just I really want to wash my hands of this situation.

It's making me hate every single person involved except for Flo, but it's like it's definitely making me be like Harry like come on.

Yeah, and it's just I don't there's so many things going on.

I don't know what to believe and I don't like being in this place of like having to choose sides and based on nothing.

Based on people I don't fucking know whose word am I gonna take.

He said she's my truth is truth.

My truth is truth.

That's the truth.

Wishing everyone the best, truly.

Like, I've had enough.

Truly.

Speaking of my truth, his truth, Travis Scott is denying cheating on Kylie Jenner with rumored ex Rogian Carr.

Travis Scott picked up the phone to shut down claims he hung out with his rumored ex amid his relationship with Kylie.

In response to the Instagram model's alleged proof that the two were recently on the same set of one of his productions, the rapper took to his Instagram story late Saturday to address the, quote, weird shit going on.

Quote, an uninvited person was sneaking photos on what was supposed to be a closed set while I was directing a video.

I don't know this person.

I've never been with this person.

He then seemingly asked Carr directly to stop with the continuous cyber games and the fictional storytelling.

Right, like she's out here sharing like photos that she deems as proof that she not only has had a relationship with Travis in the past, but like it's still going on and that like they're together and in love and he's pretending he doesn't know her and it's all like to protect Kylie.

Um,

and like for some reason, this is just like a pop culture story, especially one related to the Kardashians.

That like I um

like don't care.

Like first of all, Kylie's relationship with Travis is like so private and so weird and so on and so off.

Like I never know what's going on with them.

And like honestly, like I truly don't care.

Like sometimes I forget that Kylie has a man.

I'm always sitting here thinking like who should Kylie date?

And meanwhile she's married.

Right.

Like it's so

they're like to me, they're like a non-couple.

Like I can't explain it.

Yeah.

I actually think I agree with that in general.

And I don't know what Travis does in his life.

I don't think that he was hooking up with this person when she said that he was because I don't think he would address it because you draw attention to it.

Nobody cares.

And I feel like nobody was talking about it.

I didn't know this person before.

And I feel like he felt good about coming out and being like, this person's lying because he's telling the truth.

Right.

I mean, also, I think it must be nice for Travis to be involved in some sort of tabloid drama that's not about, you know, the death of his fans.

Like for real.

Cause that's, for me, like, that's, you know, top of mind constantly.

Cause I'm the type of girl who doesn't forget.

No, I don't forget the lawsuits are ongoing and it hasn't even been a year.

And so, yeah, if you were with this girl or that girl.

Like, I don't care.

Like, to me, there's more pressing matters when it comes to the topic of conversation of travis scott and i also feel like kylie whatever however it comes to their relationship if he was dating this girl at that time like

i feel like either that means him and kylie were together or him and kylie have an understanding some sort of understanding but i also feel like him and kylie are actually solid and he wasn't with this girl yeah

it's so it's like the weirdest part of kylie's like brand that like She like has this like non-boyfriend, boyfriend, husband, man.

One of the biggest stars in in the world.

Yeah.

No, it's like, I always, I'm out here forgetting.

And they operate like so separately.

Separately.

I'm always out here forgetting that Kylie's in a relationship.

Like

I have to be reminded of it constantly.

And she's always posting like loved up stuff.

Right.

Always.

No, but like it doesn't register for me.

No, me neither.

Isn't that weird?

Like,

it's not real in my mind.

No, it's pretty real.

They have two kids together.

No, I know.

Like, I get it, but like in my mind, it's just, it doesn't seem kind of how the word stanshin doesn't register ever for you.

Like this relationship, like does not get cemented in my brain.

I feel that way about other celebrities too, where it's like you could tell me again and again that they're together and I'll, it'll be news to me every time.

Yeah, it's like, no, it's just like, oh, right, right, right, right, right.

Like totally forgot.

Yeah.

Like, I'm just not thinking about these two ever.

And like, she has proof, he has proof.

I agree that like the fact that he's addressing it makes me just inclined to believe him.

Especially because it was like a nothing burger.

Like, I don't know if he would have even heard about it.

I think girls all the time claim that they're this person or that person.

Right.

And I just think like, you know

celebrities are like now like super

um

like careful I feel like there was like a time period like with social media and texting like people were getting really messy and like all this proof was coming out because people would like fuck celebrities and then just like use it for clout.

I mean now I feel like celebrities like are much more careful, much more like I know most celebrities don't have even

like their iCloud turned on because they're like so paranoid of like people finding whatever it is that they're up to.

So people are much, you know, tighter about that now.

So none of the proof that I saw was like

fool like 100% convincing to me.

Yeah, the only thing that's weird is like this girl's his rumored ex, but he says he's never met her, doesn't know her.

Merriam-Webster, define stalker forming.

Define ex.

You have to know him.

Right.

No, like, what is the history with this girl?

That's a good place to start.

Yeah.

But again,

again, like, I truly, like, like, truly in my bones, like, I don't care.

Like, I don't care.

Like, I would rather talk about Kylie Cosmetics.

What do you want to say?

Kylie Cosmetics is not doing enough.

No, I agree.

Even though I love, like, I just use a lip liner today.

Aside from the lip products, like, I feel like Kylie Cosmetics, and I definitely feel like Kylie Cosmetics is in an unfair position because they're just like, people will make videos and like reviews, like, dragging it just because, like, that shit gets traction.

So, like, it has more negative reviews than I think a typical brand.

I'm not worried about the reviews but i'm just talking about like from uh innovation yeah the beauty industry is so interesting like it's actually like a a unique time like i feel like a lot of beauty brands are like actually closing down like becca just closed down bite beauty is closing down like i feel like there's it's becoming really oversaturated and with all these like big celebrity brands that are really doing very well there's not enough space for everyone like eventually like brands are gonna have to shut down and i feel like once kylie sold like 51 of the company to cody like everyone kind of stopped trying um and like she does these collections like at first it was really cool like the gringe Christmas one, but now it's just like the same thing over and over.

She's like a Batman one now.

And it's like just basically licensing like a popular brand, like making an eyeshadow palette out of it.

And like it's not very innovative.

And the products like are fine, but they're like at a higher price point because you're paying for like the Kylie name.

And I don't know.

I just feel like.

There was a time where like every time they dropped, it was like, what is it?

What is it?

Like what's a new product?

What is the aesthetic?

What brand is she collaborating with?

And now it's just like, oh, great.

Like another Marvel.

Like, it's just like, meh.

Yeah, I feel that.

For me, like, I don't need novelty products from kylie cosmetics it's weirdly like where i go for like my staple lip colors and i think that she should spend more time

on that front like putting together collections of like everyday not just these like kitschy collectibles yeah like because i do need some new fresh lip colors i love the ones that i have from her but i don't know what i need next and i need kylie to tell me because i trust her for lips period agreed and i haven't left yet and maybe if i find like a different brand that's answering my lip needs, then I would be gone.

Yeah.

But I'm still here and I'm still, I'm waiting and I'm willing.

Yeah, I think they just need to step it up a little bit.

And I think that they need to invest more in everyday staple type things.

Not these like collections that are like kind of outrageous.

Yeah, I feel like everybody's moved on from that a little bit.

You know, it's like a very 2008.

It's like Jeffrey Starr.

Yeah, like it's very like YouTube era where like Kit Kat did a collab with Wet n Wild or like Care Bears ex colour pop.

Like it's just like, I feel like people are over it.

And I feel like makeup's changing a little bit.

Like make sure that you're gonna be able to do that.

It's much more Charlotte Tilbury, like dewy, natural.

Aesthetic.

Exactly.

exactly natural exactly not like we're putting you know purple picasso starry nights on our eyelids no it's true like we like the the beauty standard is actually like really much more toned down now it's like very natural very dewy that's why charlotte tilbury has become like overnight the biggest makeup brand period because like they don't do crazy colors like all their eyeshadows are very natural and nude and they're just like contour and dewy skin and sparkles so kylie feels like a little stuck in the past with the cosmetics and what the hell is going on with kkw beauty I know.

And like, what about those of us who have come to rely so heavily on the body foundation?

Like, where are we supposed to get it?

I feel like the body foundations like really could be like skikin.

I agree.

Cause it's like a skakin product.

I just think whatever happens with KKW Beauty, fine, but we need body foundation.

Yeah.

No, and like people, especially makeup artists, like loved, loved, loved the KKW lipsticks and lip liners like way more than Kylie's.

Like it was like a real staple in the beauty community.

And people are really mad.

Especially if they come back, they might not have the same shade or the same formula.

Yeah.

So people are really nervous.

And it's been a long time.

Yeah.

I don't know what's going on.

I don't think she needs to bring it back, actually.

Period.

Period.

Wow.

She's got a lot going on.

But also, she's not KKW.

So that is the big thing.

Yeah.

But like,

I feel like it was, I don't know.

I just, I feel like she could move on.

And she has skakin.

Right.

And she has a million other things.

Yep.

Okay.

Next story.

Ellen DeGeneres show star Sophia Grace reveals that she's pregnant, expecting her first baby.

And if that doesn't make you feel old, I don't know what will but what might make you feel younger is that she is 19 okay so like this is the thing like I think everyone had their own reaction to this like especially people of our generation being like damn I feel old for me I was like shit because I'm already feeling like you know against the clock like I'm 28 like I don't have kids and like I want to have kids but literally not right now like it's something that like plagues me when I go to bed every night and it's like this motherfucking Sophia Grace is out here having kids showing me up like for me not to make everything about me but like this was really hard for me I'm so sorry for you it was tough but I'm happy for Sophia because she revealed and discussed her pregnancy in a YouTube vlog where she admitted that she thought some of her fans were going to be very shocked at the news and that she had four months left to go in her pregnancy journey.

Oh, so she waited a long time to tell everyone.

Yeah, she said, I'm here to tell you guys that I'm pregnant, so I'm 21 weeks today.

And the reason why I left it so long is because I always want to make sure that everything is completely fine and that everything's safe.

She said that everything was fine following her recent 20-week ultrasound and that she was too shocked when she first found out about her pregnancy.

And now she's used to it and she's super, super happy about it.

Is she in a relationship?

It's not clear from what i've seen but i feel like yes i could probably just look at her instagram i was genuinely shocked by this like

well it's nice that her sister is going to be an auntie rosie cousin so antiants are moved rosie's her cousin what they're not sisters no

the like for me like yeah of course this makes me feel old but like when i saw a picture of the two of them growing up and being like thoughts like that was the more shocking and like more making me feel old than the pregnancy honestly yes i agree especially just because once you find out she's 19 it's like oh we already digested that i'm okay with that yeah it's been 10 years it feels like 10 years there's this word on tick tock i cannot remember oh it's really bothering me like the it's like a word in britain like uk culture that they describe um

like a certain look and like sophia grace like has that look I think it's called like chaz.

And there's like a TikTok sound associated.

If you don't know me, I'm to the B.

Watching, make you better watch it, Sophie.

You think you're only girl out here doing gram?

It's like a makeup look, like thick eyebrows, lots of bronzer, like poofy hair.

I don't know what the word is.

Does anybody know what I'm talking about?

You have to if you're like a TikTok girly.

It's like chaz.

Chav.

Chav, chav, yes.

Chav.

Like, she's a chav.

Like, I don't know anything about British culture.

And like, I might be wrong, but like, I think she's a chav.

Okay, so good.

And so when I first saw a picture of her growing up, like, looking like a chav, I was like, oh my God, like, that made me feel old a little bit more than this.

because once i realized she was 19 i'm like oh it's not like she's at like a classic age for having children like 19 is a little young yeah um so it didn't make me feel that old honestly like i felt good about it like at first i was like shit is she like 24 kill me right but she's 19 so right and i'm happy for her and she seems really happy she seems really like happy and confident in her choice and like we respect

choices you know and we respect mothers right and we expect expecting mamas we expect expecting we respect expecting we that's how mouthful we respect expecting mamas so wishing her the best in her pregnancy and a lifetime of happiness with her and her future child, truly.

Always.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

A little controversy for Megan Markle.

Yeah.

So former brief.

We've been telling you so much about Megan Markle.

She's been like in the press a lot.

Yeah.

Well, she's always in the press now once a week from her new show where she's addressing archetypes.

And she did like two back-to-back big interviews, variety.

This controversy is from variety.

No, this so there's two con this deal or no deal is from bimbo, which was Paris Hilton's episode.

Yeah, but what we're talking about is from variety.

We're about to talk about bimbo first, and then you're gonna tell me about that video.

Oh, oh, I thought we were talking about the variety.

Okay, we'll get to it because so everybody.

What is she mad for getting in trouble for now?

So the former briefcase models from Deal or No Deal are ripping her claims of being

objectified.

Oh, the other women have spoken.

The other women have spoken.

Megan Markle is receiving criticism for her claims of feeling objectified during her time as a briefcase model on Deal or No Deal.

In addition to media backlash, former models of the popular game show are slamming the Duchess for arguing that they were treated like bimbos.

One former dealer no deal model, Patricia Cara, said, quote, everyone on the show knew their role, knew the image, auditioned, volunteered, and accepted the job.

I do not share her experience at all.

I never felt objectified.

Also, during her episode, she revealed that there had been different beauty stations to prepare for the game show, including a section where you can add padding in your bra.

The former dealer, no deal model, Patricia Cara, said, there is no truth to the padding station.

In all the years I worked on the show, that never existed.

um another deal or no deal model said instead of ever feeling like a bimbo i knew working alongside such wonderful people like howie mandel would only lead to bigger and better things for me and uh that former model said that it hasn't just been her looks that landed her the job but her positive nature personality and overall work ethic you know what i feel like um

honestly i feel like everyone and not to sound like crystal kong binkoff like everyone when it comes to this deal or no deal thing, like, is telling their truth.

Like, I think, you know, you're going to take that that job and i think it's very clear when you audition and sign up like you are there because you're a beautiful woman like you're not your brain isn't opening the suitcase uh your hands and your body is so it sounds like some of those women like went into it with like realistic expectations and like wanted to get the good out of it and like have a positive attitude and it sounds like megan went into it like

a little blind even though like that's like becoming a stripper and being mad that people are looking at your boobs like it's part of the job so to be to be objectified in a sense so megan coming away with that experience, like, okay, it's very possible that she felt objectified, but like, that's literally the job.

And I think that's what these women are saying.

Like, you can look at it.

Like, we all went into it knowing like we were being used because we're beautiful women.

So you can look at it from a negative space, but like we chose that.

And like, there were really good things that happened from it too, like being in that industry.

If you're a model, I think it's like a great platform for you.

So I think this is all about like attitude.

Yeah.

And it sounds like these women are like toxically positive.

And, and Regan is looking at it from like a, like a toxic and negative point of view.

I think yeah, it's also about perspective like you're standing up there opening briefcases.

Are you happy to be doing that or that's not the work that you want to be doing and you want more?

Right.

Like I think maybe some women are just like really grateful for the job and like

to have their bills paid.

And now like Megan obviously became a princess afterwards.

So like it's easy to look down on it.

when you've come so far, but I didn't recognize any of those people's names.

Like I think for them, it was a job and like they're just grateful for the job.

For sure.

Especially as like a woman in Hollywood, Hollywood, like you could have a job that's so fucking toxic and bad.

So the fact that like there are women who come forward and say like, yeah, we were all wearing little dresses, but like we felt respected.

There was no nefarious, there was no, it's Hollywood.

Like you know what can happen.

So honestly, I think they're probably just grateful that they got like a paying job that puts you in sag that you get benefits for that

you're not fucking traumatized by.

I don't think a lot of women can say that.

Right.

So it sounds like it's just about perspective.

You're right.

Yes, but there either was a padding station or there wasn't.

Right.

No, that's that's true.

Yeah.

I'll need to speak to some more models before I come to a decision.

Well, the thing that I thought we were going to talk about is this TikTok that's gone viral of Megan.

Like,

so she did this big interview with Variety and they did like video content.

And of course, I started clipping it for TikTok because, you know, if you want to be anyone, you need vertical video.

That's why The Toast is the biggest podcast on the planet.

And this clip, like, that was pretty,

like, you would watch it.

It's like pretty innocuous, but like it's been dissected to filth on TikTok because she was asked, like, what do you and Harry, what TV are you guys watching?

The question is, what do you guys watch?

What's the TV that you're watching?

We get like the most long-winded answer.

And it's just like, it's full of, like, it's, it's giving, it's giving cringe.

Like, she goes, you know, after we put the kids down and after we've played a little wordle

and maybe, you know, done 10 or 15 minutes of my Duolingo, because, you know, I took French.

I've decided to relearn it because I took four years of it in high school, but it's just completely left my brain and I want to relearn it.

So I'm doing Duolingo.

After all that,

we'll turn

it on.

If we turn the TV on, which is such a rare occurrence, like it's not like a frequent thing, but if we turn the TV on, we like really love to watch, you know, really compelling storytelling.

And, you know, White Lotus is a great example of that.

So all of that, just to say they're watching White Lotus.

And like, I just hate, like, I hate to like really be like a negative nitpicker when it comes to Megan Marco because she gets a lot of that.

But like people who like look down on people who watch TV a lot, like if it was giving like a little like holier than now, like we never watch TV.

I'm going to do my word games.

It's such a humble brag.

Like they asked you what TV shows you like and you're talking about your high school French experience.

Like.

Answer the point.

Just say White Lotus.

It was a very long way of saying the white lotus.

It was word salad.

It was a long way of saying the white lotus.

And it was like, like, you know, so humble braggy about all the other things that you do.

Right, like being an intellect, learning a new language never watching tv

appreciate storytelling yeah like it was just re-watching yeah it was very it was patronizing and so people are picking it apart on tick tock which honestly has been like funny like sorry it has been yeah also um so you're watching the white lotus okay cool

Our fifth story is actually about White Lotus, but speaking of TikTok clips that we were watching this weekend, that we meant to watch the full interview, I think we should talk about what we saw.

No, for sure, but like we, okay, so for some reason, I ended up on this like weird side of TikTok.

I think there was like a we the thing is I'm not really familiar with Joe Rogan culture and like I'm not I don't listen to his podcast every day to know like what the like the tea is but he did an episode with Eliza Schlesinger who was out promoting her new book and her new Netflix special.

She's a female comic.

I don't have to say like female comic.

She's a comic.

And it's like she.

So right.

I ended up on this like weird side of TikTok where people were like breaking down her interview with Joe Rogan and like clipping out some of like the cringy shit that she said and like

analyzing like whether Joe liked her and like neither one of them promoted the episode.

So then I fell down this fucking rabbit hole of like wanting to know what's going on between Eliza Schlesinger and Joe Rogan.

And I then of course had to get Jackie involved.

And at first she was like, who cares?

But then like once you started watching, you saw that there's something there.

There's something there.

So so many times this weekend, we sat down to watch the whole episode so we could judge for ourselves.

People were saying that like Joe was like visibly annoyed with Eliza.

And like, well, some of the clips that we saw, like some of the stuff she was saying was like positively dreadful.

Yeah.

So reductive and

uninformed.

Yeah, no, she was like literally like make like this video.

She was out here being like you know i was getting um medical treatment in sweden or something like a place where they have universaliz socialized health care so like everyone is in the like you're you if beyonce walks in it doesn't matter like we're all the same so she was saying like i'm a celebrity like i want special treatment

her husband was waiting a really really long time and they like weren't giving him any attention and so she was like well she asked the person like what if like beyonce came in here like what would you do there's obviously a way to get better treatment to get to pay for it if i I want to pay for it.

She said, I'm a celebrity.

She did say that.

And so then Joe was like, you asked them?

It was, she was just like bragging.

It was so cringe.

It was like, she, they were just

treating things.

We wanted to watch it.

But we sat down 45 times and then Harry, like, we literally never watched past the first two minutes.

So it's not, I don't want to dive in, but like, I, and then I was reading things on Twitter that you were sending me.

Like, there is something weird going on because neither Joe didn't promote the episode, which is like kind of crazy.

And neither did Eliza.

Like, for Joe, like, you're not going to promote your own podcast.

And for Eliza, it's like, you're going on the biggest podcast in the the world and you're not going to promote.

There's, there's something like that.

They both had a terrible time.

They both had a terrible time.

Like towards the end, it was like, he was like, I cannot talk to this woman anymore.

And she was like feeling so uncomfortable.

Like, Joe obviously doesn't want to talk to me anymore.

Like, I, I need to watch the episode before I can give like a full decree.

But I, that's the rabbit hole we went down this week.

I think it's going to be painful to watch.

I know.

Cause like there's

comedians to watch an awkward interview of two people.

It's not just like, you know, 10 minutes on Jimmy Kimmel.

Like, I think it's two hours.

two hours and by the way that's short for him which goes to show that he was done not having fun but it was like the clips that i've seen so again this is only coming from the pov of someone who's seen probably a collective eight minutes in clips like every time she was what they were talking about like political or social issues and it's clear like they are not agreeing on much but i think joe wanted to give her the space to speak she was um like every time she would like talk about like a statistic or a specific story like he would have his guy you know like be googling it right like he was like not believing anything she was saying i need to watch it in full something as innocuous as dwayne johnson's cheat meals.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She was talking about how, like, I think she was trying to make it like a funny bit, which just like, it was kind of like a, like a, like, not super funny.

And she was just like trying to say like a funny thing.

Um, he was like, oh, really?

Jamie, pull it up.

And they're like pulling up some of the rocks Instagram posts of his cheat day meals.

And she was just basically making a joke.

It's like, your cheat day, like, you're still having like protein powder pancakes.

It's not like, you know, chocolate chip pancakes.

It was just like a, like a really offhand, like not that funny thing.

And he like made it a 45-minute conversation.

Like it was, I need to watch the full, the full episode, but if anybody knows like what we're talking about, like you have extra insight, like please share a sound off in the comments because we're so curious, like, what is going on between Eliza Schleshinger and Joe Rogan?

Yeah, no, I think it just was, I mean, not every, he does so many episodes as we saw when we were trying to find this episode was from four days ago.

We, we go to his thing.

There's already five episodes, five new episodes from like maybe

so many different people.

You're not going to click with everyone.

No, you're not going to click on it.

And like in two comics, like, I don't know.

I'm sure that's why he had her to begin with.

It's like, okay, she's a comedian.

And she's been on before.

She's been on before.

Yeah, episode like 400, and now he's up to like almost 2,000.

So like, it must have been two years ago.

Yeah.

So it's just

like a funny thing that we're like kind of now obsessed with.

So if anyone has any good like insight or memes they want to share, like let us know.

And I do hope we find the time to dive in to watch the episode.

Fifth and final story.

White Lotus premiered to

is it HBO Max or HBO?

HBO is HBO Max.

No, like, are they putting on the whole season or is it episode by episode?

Episode by episode.

I don't remember because last time I watched, I think, like.

It was episode by episode.

No, no, no, but I'm saying, did they ever put a whole season?

Yeah.

When I watched Sex Lives of College Girls, it was HBO Max.

Was it done?

I don't think so, because I was relatively early.

I didn't think there was a difference.

Oh, that's a good question.

I think HBO Max is where you can watch all HBO on demand and not have to have the channel.

But I feel like there are some shows that are exclusively HBO Max.

Like what?

I thought Sex Lives Lives of College Girls.

Maybe we were just late to watching it.

Right.

No, that's, I think I'm late to a lot of shit, so all the episodes are already out.

Okay.

Well, White Lotus premieres on HBO on October 30th and takes place in Sicily, Italy, and follows a new cast of well-heeled characters at the fictional luxury resort.

Jennifer Coolidge is the only cast member to reprise her role from season one, but we got some new cast member information on our show.

Megan Fahey.

Megan Fahey, who is Sutton on the bold place.

The bold type.

Who is a toaster?

Like, that's so important, you know?

Like, I've actually hung out with her twice.

She's the funnest girl.

Like, I'm obsessed.

I actually have her phone number.

Like, not me having someone like on the White Lotus's phone number, you know?

It's like me having Jennifer Coolidge's phone number.

Not you.

I'm so excited.

Like, I miss Sutton every day.

And she's a really good actress.

She's such a good actress.

She was such a great TV character.

The show ended prematurely, too.

Such a great show.

It's White Lotus season two.

I'm excited for her.

Sorry, I was talking about the bold type.

No, I know.

And then I'm saying, comma.

Yeah.

And to be honest.

And this is a great like next step for her in her career.

Like, I feel like she's on her way now to being like major, major actress, major star.

She deserves all of it.

Who else is in it?

Aubrey Plaza, which I believe we reported on.

Yeah, she's like, I'm not like an Aubrey Plaza girl.

I feel like this will be the thing.

I feel like people love her from that show that she was on.

Was it Parks and Rack?

Yeah.

And I obviously never got into that.

So I just feel like she popped up and like, I don't know her.

Theo James, so we obviously love.

F.

Murray Abraham.

I'm more of an F.

Scott Fitzgerald girl.

Adam DeMarco.

I don't know any of these people.

Me neither.

Maybe you would know their Foches.

Yeah, Adam DeMarco sounds like a Foch.

I might remember.

Let me see.

No,

you don't know him.

I mean, you don't know my brain, so let me say.

I know your brain.

Of course, I know that guy.

What's he from?

Comic-Con.

You don't know him.

No, I don't know him.

I'm kidding.

Well, hopefully, this will make a star.

You know, Sidney Sweeney was on it when, like, not that many people knew her.

Like, Euphoria hadn't blown up in the way that it has now.

So, like, she was still relevant.

She was from something else, though, because people already really liked her.

What was her breakout role?

Is it not Euphoria?

I don't think it's Euphoria.

I feel like she was in like We Are the Millers or something.

She's in like a, she was in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Oh, but I don't think in a big enough role that people fell in love with her.

But I just remember Zach knew who she was, and I don't think he watches Euphoria.

Well, she just got cast in a big Marvel thing, by the way.

So like, she's really, she's on her way to being like Megan Fox.

Madam Webb.

Got it.

I never saw it.

No, that's the Marvel thing.

She got crazy.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, so it was just announced.

And it's like a Michael Bay movie.

So it's literally Megan.

She's like following Megan Fox's.

Michael Bay was Transformers and that was Megan Fox's like thing.

Yeah, that's exciting.

So she's, I feel like, who do you think is...

Zendaya was like already famous.

So like obviously Zendaya is the most famous one from Euphoria.

But who would you say is a breakout star of Euphoria?

Sidney Sweeney?

Yeah, because I don't watch Euphoria and I only know her, Zendaya, Jacob Alordi are in it.

And Jacob Alordi and Zendaya were famous before.

Yeah.

And I know there's other people and you talk about them sometimes, but like Maude Appetow.

Oh, I didn't know.

She was on it.

Oh, yeah.

I I think

Judd yeah Judd's daughter you know I know who she is but I didn't really realize she was on it and she was famous before and yeah no it doesn't count like the nepotism that's saying that's an is that a nepotism that bothers you

no i never thought about it no because like they're just like family business i know and like i feel like her and her sister are both actors um and anytime i've seen them and stuff it's like they're dad's movies so it's like yeah you want to like sure that's your dad like he's obviously going to put you in your movie and they're both extremely talented and i feel like they they actually like did really good jobs in their dad's films.

Like they were both in this is 40.

Yeah.

Um, that it doesn't bother me.

Nepotism for me is like so, like, I'm so choosy with who I'm going to get all bent out of shape over.

Agree, but then it also

is about, are they good at the job?

You know, like maybe they have more doors open for them, but like,

is it a pleasure to watch?

And I just want to say there's like a lot of celebrity offspring and like a lot of them don't go on to do what Gwyneth Paltrow did.

Right.

Win Oscars create billion-dollar companies.

Right.

And even like, look at, you know, look at the Baldwins.

Like Haley is arguably the most famous offspring, but like for a while, like we all knew Ireland and like Ireland's on TikTok now.

Haley doesn't come from the most famous parents.

Right.

But like, and it's not for lack of trying that Ireland is not as famous as, and Ireland's mom is Kim Basinger.

Yeah.

So like she had like the most, the biggest platform to begin with.

And like still Haley.

So you're right.

Like just because you have it doesn't mean you have it.

Right.

It doesn't mean you have it in the bag.

Yeah, you still have to work, obviously not as hard as everyone else, but still pretty good.

Yeah, but then I'm sure they'll say, I I have to work even harder to prove myself, that I'm worthy of being here.

I don't agree with that.

I can't say, you know, same, but I don't think that's the truth.

That's not a good rebuttal to nepotism.

It's like, no, for sure, but like, once I got there, I had to work even harder.

Like the door was open for me.

But then once I got through the door, like, I had to work even harder to prove myself.

I really don't like that line of thinking.

I think people who are like benefit benefactors of nepotism should stop saying it.

Because nepotism doesn't bother me that much.

But if you're going to come over here and like start explaining yourself and like be a little delusional, like, come on, like, let's be real.

Yeah.

It's not happening.

So those are the fast five.

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All right, Season Minalee was like a little lackluster, especially compared to episode nine.

Like, I thought at least, you know, we knew that there was going to be a war, you know, it's beginning, civil war for the crown.

I actually think it was the exact same as episode nine.

It was all just the maneuvering.

Episode nine was about how the high towers maneuvered in the wake of the king's death.

It was very exciting.

Like, they actually did stuff.

Like, the

Dragonstone people didn't start maneuvering until 45 minutes in, and then nothing happened because that kid died.

Right.

Like both had a big ending, and without those big endings, really nothing major would have happened in the episodes.

Right.

Chase died.

That was like obviously what it was.

And it was so sad.

Oh, sorry.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

Lucera.

Luceris.

Luceris died.

He was eaten.

He was eaten.

He was like a little young to be like out doing some tasks.

Like he wasn't ready.

He wasn't ready.

Especially, I mean, we didn't know that, you know, Amond, the one-eyed mulligan, was going to be.

And I didn't realize there was such a big difference in the size of their dragons.

Me neither.

And I was curious about that.

I mean, I know that Amon stole his dragon from Damon's first wife.

Yeah.

Second wife.

Second wife.

Yeah.

Once she died, he like snuck down and stole her.

But why was hers so much bigger?

Because she's older.

And that's

a dragon.

Yeah.

Oh, they grow with you.

As they said in the war room that they have three adult dragons.

So the

dragon

I just thought like adult meant like better training.

They don't grow like with you necessarily, but like if she started with him as a baby and then she's a grown woman, he grew too.

Yeah, no, that makes sense.

There's fewer dragons that the kids have.

Got it.

The scene of her giving birth, I feel like, was like so triggering.

It was terrible.

It was so horrible.

So it was like a stillbirth, right?

Yeah.

Like that was really upsetting.

I don't know why that had to happen.

No, I know.

And like even if it did have to happen, like I don't feel like they really had to show like that graphic.

Like I actually think like if you've been through something like that, like it's immensely triggering.

Like it was, it was a lot.

Like, and I'm not, like, I have no like experience tied to that and like i was triggered you know yeah no it was a lot they're obsessed with the house of dragon like having traumatic birth scenes no i know and like as as a woman like it's a lot and like i've never even given birth like i need them to stop yeah um

and so and then rainier lost two children in one episode right

let's talk about the choke because that was really hard for me I was when I saw it, I was thinking of you because you have been a demon apologist this whole time.

There was nothing that he could do that you couldn't explain away.

And then he came literally for for Nick Rainier's throat.

And I was just like, what do you think about Damon now?

So I am still searching for an excuse.

So I'm like, I'm searching for like a just, like, I, like, there's a reason, obviously, because Damon would like never do that.

So, um, I am out here making excuses for the violence.

And that's wrong of me, but I'm, that's what I'm doing.

So if someone could sound off in the comments and provide a good, a good reason why I shouldn't be mad, like I would, I'm desperately searching for that.

Yeah.

Rainiera should have sent Damon with Luke.

Yeah, of course.

Like, and I think like he was, you know, in the beginning of the episode, like expressing some of his insecurities.

So she thought this would like empower him.

Little did she know it killed him.

And so I think she was just like eager to give him like some sort of courage and purpose.

And it ended up being the thing that killed him.

It was horrible.

And they couldn't have known, known Amond was there.

I fucking hate Amond.

Like,

and

they were at Baratheon, right?

Is that who that was?

The guy who couldn't read?

Yeah.

Love that.

Lee and Michelle.

Lee Michelle.

Like, I just feel like Baratheans honor their oaths.

Like, I feel that, but I'm thinking about the Baratheans of, you know.

Right.

Robert was a literal usurper.

Oh, right.

But Stannis, wasn't he a good guy?

No?

Stannis

was, I don't know, about a good guy.

I just consider like Baratheans to be like really close with the Starks.

And like, the Starks honor their word, of course.

Yeah, but also this is 200 years before.

But it runs in their blood, in my opinion.

I don't know.

Baratheans, I think, can go either way.

And like Robert Baratheon, like sat on a throne that really wasn't his to sit on.

Why was he the king?

Why did Lannister, Starks, and Targaryens go to war and big old Robert sat on the throne?

And

after all that, we're going to end up with Robert.

Right.

No, and like Robert brought down the house of the dragon, like this big dope.

That does, yeah, someone's not adding up.

Like, just like his ancestor before him on the throne who couldn't read.

Right, right, right.

I mean, he did look like Robert, so I thought that was a good.

I thought that was good casting too.

So like, to be honest, I feel like nothing really happened.

Except Rainier is now activated.

Yeah, of course.

Cause like when Amond killed Lucerus, like he started the war officially.

And he knew it when he flew away.

And he wasn't like super pleased with himself.

That wasn't the outcome he was looking for.

He wanted to fuck around and then he found out.

And that's what happens.

It was really sad because like

her kids are like P-JOMs.

Like they're so sweet and like they're not evil and they don't look for problems.

Like he was just doing what his mom said, messenger.

And of course, Amond had to follow him into the sky.

Like that was so upsetting.

Yeah.

How did they find out so quick that their son had died?

Well, one, he doesn't come home and it's a quick trip to wherever.

Yeah, but like, that doesn't assume that he's dead.

And I don't know, maybe Aamon told someone.

Yeah.

Or like.

And maybe it wasn't so quick.

Maybe it was a few days.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's true.

Maybe they were looking for him and they found like.

Do you want to hear something crazy like you're really not going to like?

Like we get season two in 2024.

I heard.

Like that's insane.

I know.

How the fuck are we supposed to remember what happened?

I know they do previously on, but like we're going to have to rewatch.

No, I think we'll be able to remember this season.

It's just like now everyone's activated for battle.

It's a battle for the throne.

Yeah, but like it's hard to remember like who's who, who's related to who, whose fucking name is.

I'm going to probably recast more shit while we're gone.

Totally.

Totally.

So it was.

Let's look at it at a glance.

You know, this first new season of the prequel.

I thought it was excellent.

Excellent.

And it really is the lead up to what this show is about, which is the Civil War in House Targaryen.

Yeah, it was excellent.

And now we see how we got from A to Z.

Right.

And like how Rainier, like, really would be best fit as queen.

And like, up in so annoying, cause like when he choked her, like, up until then, he was being such a P-John, like really taking control, like, maybe a little bit too much control, but like, she was giving birth.

And he does have like a proclivity towards violence.

Right.

But like, he was the one who, like, he started the coronation.

Like, I love that guy who came with the crown.

Like, obsessed with

him.

Obsessed with that guy.

And, like, you know, some men might be intimidated by being married to the queen of the seven kingdoms.

Like, no, he was like down.

He got on his knee first.

He was Prince Philip.

He could do it again.

He was Prince, but Prince, oh,

he literally was.

I thought you were like Megan.

Like, he's like Prince Philip.

No, no, he played Prince Philip.

So he knows what it's like.

Yeah, to be second fiddle.

Love that.

Yeah, but he has, I don't think he wants, I mean, sure, everyone wants to be king, but I think now he's very assured in his role of like getting Rainier on the throne and he can

protect her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was good stuff.

And I was was just happy to see Damon because we didn't even see him last episode.

If maybe for five seconds, he didn't even say a word.

Oh, and Rainy is and Lord Corliss is back.

And Lord Corliss, like, they're good peeps.

Like, they are.

They take their time, but they get, they always do the right thing.

Yeah, as you should.

Yeah.

They are good peeps.

I also understand them.

Like, this is not our fucking problem.

Like, leave us alone.

In their heart of hearts, they know that those boys aren't

related to them.

And so now who sits on the Driftmark throne?

No.

Right.

And who marries their daughter, their granddaughter?

She has more sons, but at at least now they have like a

pawn almost, because like having a kid to marry off when you have like a sufficient

inheritance is a pawn.

Like you can make a good marriage, make an ally.

So at least they have that.

Like it's a positive thing.

Yeah.

But yeah, and they were like all into each other.

So that was sad because he's betrothed.

It was sad.

They were all so excited.

It's like, oh, he's walking over to see next to the other.

It was sad.

At least Jace and the older one are still going to get it.

We think.

I hope.

Yeah.

Maybe like Jace.

Well, no, Jace is the heir after Rhaniera.

But she still has three more kids.

Yeah.

But like, they're super young.

Yeah.

But still, they always are making inappropriate matches.

And it's for one day.

Right.

Okay.

Sure.

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