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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Thursday.

No, no, no.

Oh, fuck.

Should I start over?

Or I need to

hold myself

accountable.

I need to hold myself accountable.

Well, maybe let's just let me do it.

Oh, okay.

Usually when we do remote episodes, which is what I was about to say,

I always intro us, but why don't you take a stab at it?

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast.

Happy

Thursday.

Hope everyone's having a fantabulous Thursday thus far.

Jax and I are recording a podcast-only episode as I am in Nashville, one of my favorite places in the entire world because I have a show tonight.

So, hey, Jax, how you doing?

That was good.

I'm doing

very good.

It's been

nice morning.

All's well on the home front.

I actually, my friend Sam slept over last night.

She came over for dinner last night.

And then we had a sleepover, an adult sleepover in separate rooms, of course, which was just like a really fun treat.

She was in town visiting family.

So it's so nice hosting people in your house when like you have things in which to host with.

Well, let's discuss.

Let's discuss the fact that your friend Sam slept in my bed.

Yeah.

And Sam listens to this podcast.

So if you have anything that you want to say to her about this,

now would be your time.

Okay.

Here's what I want to say.

Am I hurt?

No, I'm not hurt.

I'm actually like, I don't really care, but it's just like, you have so many like different rooms.

Like,

you know, you have a guest that could sleep in any of them.

Of all the people in the world who could sleep in my bedroom, Sam is extremely clean and extremely nice.

So this time i'll allow it um mostly because sam listens to this podcast no i'm totally kidding i actually don't mind but like i just want to i want to like kind of level with you and let you know like that room in your house that is my room it's not really a guest room you know it's like harry's room would you let sam sleep in harry's room

no well i'm fine with that i'm fine with it being your room and i can usher my guests elsewhere but you're gonna have to come more

you're kidding you're motherfucking kidding me you're gonna you haven't been here in a while i know you're about to come soon and then you're going to be

a long time but until that time comes like the room is lonely

you're kidding like the way that i've actually been in your house for 50 of the time that you've lived there like please no that was true two months ago you haven't been here since august you haven't been here since august

Oh, that's what happens when she confronts facts.

You haven't been here since August.

I'm sorry, I'm really motherfucking cranky.

I had a day and a half yesterday.

It was supposed to be a stunning day.

Do the toast, head to the airport, quick flight to Nashville, land, relax, maybe get a massage or a manicure,

head out to dinner with Shannon Ford.

It was supposed to be a gorgeous day.

And it was, we were on our way to having a gorgeous day.

Initial descent.

Oh, I'm ready on time to Nashville.

And then Shannon texts me and she's like, have you landed yet?

Don't leave the airport.

There's a tornado hitting the ground.

And I'm like, excuse me, pardon me, Channon.

I'm still in the air.

And she was like, oh shit, sorry, I didn't mean to scare you.

Then things got bumpy.

They really got bumpy.

And I'm like, oh, this is,

this is some special weather.

And the pilot came on and he was like, don't worry, we just have to chill up here for 40 minutes because there is a tornado hitting the ground in Nashville.

And as much as I was annoyed, I was grateful to not be, you know, flying into the eye of a tornado.

After the 40 minutes, he comes back and he's like, I'm sorry to be annoying.

And I'm like, oh my God, he's going to say we have to wait another hour.

He was like, we are at the, you know, they're all backed up because of this tornado and we don't have enough fuel to wait for our landing time.

So we got to go land in Cincinnati.

I'm like, you're kidding me.

You're kidding me.

Divinely.

Why does the flight from New York to Nashville never have enough fuel?

That is a good question because that's what happened to us.

I feel like there's like certain fuel tank sizes, let's say small, medium, and large.

Yeah.

And for most flights, like you get a large and then you have extra, but the flight from New York to Nashville must be like

just under a medium.

So they have small.

And they can't do one extra mile or else you're going to Pittsburgh.

So then we landed in Cincinnati and they just like had no information and it was already like six or seven o'clock.

So I'm like, am I going to have to spend the night here?

Cincinnati.

Alone?

Like I was a little freaked out.

Like I just, I'm not good at doing stuff like that alone.

And I, for tour, I usually travel with like a few people, but this time I happened to be by myself because I came early to be with Shannon.

And thankfully they refueled us, took their sweet time getting us back out, but we did eventually make it to Nashville and I did eventually see Shannon for dinner, low-key dinner, just girlies chit-chatting, catching up.

And then I went to bed, but it was just like such a long day that I slept through my alarm today.

And I'm just feeling all out of sorts.

So I apologize for lashing out.

Sam, if you're listening to this, it's totally fine that you slept in my room.

I hope you didn't like rifle through my things, but like it's fine.

Thank you for the apology.

Like I don't deserve a lash out.

I'm not immature enough to like not acknowledge when I've attacked someone.

That's you.

Here we go again.

Here we go again.

But that also does mean I was not able to watch the Real House Lives of Beverly Hills Part 1 reunion last night because I was in Cincinnati and I feel like that's a fair excuse.

We will get back on track next week with our TV recaps.

Right.

And I knew Claudia wasn't watching, so I didn't watch.

Instead, I watched the new episode of Tell Me Lies, which is really dragging its feet.

Really?

Yeah, like it's still good.

Actually, I didn't really enjoy last night's episode.

Really, nothing happened.

And I don't know how many episodes are in the season, but like, let's get to the point.

And to me, I think the point is, I'm moving on.

I think that not only, this is a spoiler if it winds up being true, but here's my theory.

Nothing based on last night's episode, by the way.

So I'm not spoiling it.

But like, you're always right.

So even your, like, your predictions are so annoying because it's just basically a spoiler.

Okay, but I already gave you one prediction and you were like happy with it.

I think not only it was Steven responsible for Macy's death, like easily, I think knowing that eventually Drew dies, I think Stephen's responsible for his death too.

Yes, I'm waiting for because they're making it seem like Drew's death is like suicide or depression related because he really seems to be struggling.

Right, but in these new episodes, he's doing better.

Okay.

He's on the men.

Like at the lake, he was doing better.

Yeah.

In this episode, he's not like his best, but he's on the up.

So I don't know if it's that anymore.

Okay.

Well, I personally just.

I wouldn't be surprised if Steven stages a suicide.

That's my call.

Oh my God.

Well, I'm really watching the show now for Evan and whatever that girl's name is.

Bree, they're hot and heavy.

Briefly.

I love it.

And I know that they end up getting married.

And like, that's heavenly.

Right.

Well, we know they get engaged.

Who knows what happens eight years from now at the engagement party?

What truths come to light?

Love that.

Love that.

Because up until now, he's been telling her lies.

Totally.

Like, I don't often think.

Oh, I started lessons in chemistry.

Oh, my God.

Please tell everyone.

This is, this was the highlight of my day.

Okay, Jackie told me to start this book, and Snitch said I would like it too.

And something happens in like the way beginning of the book, and it really upset me, like trigger warning.

It was a like, I, and it's not the first time I've read a book that has like a rape, but it was like so particularly graphic and so infuriating.

Like maybe it was like the way she wrote it.

So just like trigger a warning for that.

It was in infuriating.

No.

I mean all those situations are, but like the way she wrote it like really got under my fucking skin.

And I'm texting you.

I'm like, this book is sick.

Like it really made me very upset.

And I wasn't going to keep reading, but I'm glad that I was like, I was loving it up until that.

Well, no, no, no.

I was loving it after that.

Got it.

It happens right at the beginning.

Yeah, when you started, you said that you were loving it.

I was so excited.

i was like one page in like i'm like yeah cute um

i did continue to read and it does get very good and it's much lighter um

and i am enjoying it immensely and it's just like this is concrete proof that it's never too late to become a redhead look at me never this was our last month's book lessons in chemistry which really most people love not every there's no one book out there that i think every single person on earth loves which is just so crazy books are more personal than comedy more personal than food but let me think this book was beloved and there aren't a lot of redheads books that all four of us like there's always it usually is two and two a lot of times it's three and one there's always a hater but everybody liked it so i was like i think claudia would like it too and now the best part of it is that when you finish the book you're not alone because you can go listen to the redheads and like unpack all your thoughts

um totally is when when you say there's always i know you're so excited i know you're so excited to do that when you say that there's always an A-sayer, is it always Margo?

When it's like a Dana's book, yes, it's always Margo.

When it's a Margo's book, it's always Rebecca.

Rebecca and Snitch go at it the most.

If I was a Redhead, I'd probably enjoy Snitch's choices the most.

You would.

You would.

And my own.

What would be your genre?

I mean, I guess I couldn't pick like the same Lucy Score Colleen Hoover book every week.

I'd try to expand my horizons.

So I'd probably pick

short, like when I'm like, like stuff like the love hypothesis, a friend zone, like those covers with cartoons on them.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't choose that for every single book.

Like I'd have to change it up.

Have you read The Love Hypothesis?

Yeah.

Did you like it?

Yeah, it's fun.

Yeah, I did.

Because I just saw it's up for Book of the Month's book of the year.

There's like Book of the Month's.

That's insane.

Right.

And so was A Flicker in the Dark, which was another Redheads book that was amazing.

So I was like, if Love Hypothesis is up against a Flicker in the Dark, like maybe that's a good book.

No, like it's, it's one of my books.

Like

any different.

Maybe it got nominated to top five because it won in its category.

For sure.

Like it was one of those books that's like always being pushed by Goodreads, so much to the point that it made me not want to read it.

But then it makes it a bit more.

It's the Tori Kelly of books.

Yeah.

It's literally an industry plant.

There are so many books like that.

I know what it makes.

The Spanish Love Deception.

I was deceived into reading that.

Thanks.

Good reads.

Thanks a lot.

Thanks a lot, you idiot.

So we've got a fab show, fab stories.

And I have a fab show tonight.

I can't wait to see everyone in Nashville.

It's just, you know what a pleasure it is to, you know, I have Nashville coming up.

I have Durham, North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina, and

Birmingham, Alabama.

And like, you will not catch me promoting.

Every single show is 100% max sold.

Like, that's crazy.

I feel like that's actually even though that's the goal I feel like that's actually hard for you to not have something to promote I mean I guess you could go to girlwithnojob.com slash book if you wanted to what about and I don't I don't know if I can say these words like stub hub

oh you know what like I

I don't know I'm like the worst like it makes no difference to you if people

I think you can buy my tickets on stub hub like and you can also buy like resell on ticketmaster on for some of the shows, resell like in Facebook groups.

I don't know like the validity.

That's why I don't really like promote right, no, but secondhand.

If you were desperate for a seat, maybe you could find one, is what I'm saying.

If you were totally desperate for a seat, people are because of COVID, like people are always like dropping out.

I think like when I first started touring, like after COVID, they were like, We expect six, like at different venues, the general rule was 65% of people who buy tickets show up.

And is that what you've seen?

A while, like at the beginning of the tour, yes.

Now, no, no, now everyone's fat now it's a hundred percent

hundred percent um so we can dive in to the fast five if you are ready to do so i guess i feel ready i was also just gonna share that i cooked a lovely recipe from ina garden's cooking book last night it was a something something roasted salmon it was really good And then I also made these butternut squash, just butternut squash that I've made from her before.

I took them out and they were so salty, like inedible.

And I'm someone who just follows the recipe.

So like, I don't know what's going to happen.

And then I was like, there couldn't have been that much salt.

And I looked at it and I accidentally did two tablespoons of salt instead of two teaspoons.

So I like salty things.

Like that doesn't bother me.

It was, I couldn't eat them.

Sam was enjoying them, but everyone agreed that they were far too salty.

But that's like the problem with my cooking.

It's like, I should have realized as I'm putting two tablespoons of salt in the bowl that that is too much salt.

But that feels like a lot.

That's where it becomes problematic that I'm just like so to the letter.

You know, that was like the first time I did an Aina recipe.

I made an arrabiata sauce because in the picture it looked really good.

And then I made it just like she said and I tasted it and I was like, ew, this is so spicy.

But it's like, girl,

you put the spices in.

You are there.

Arbiata is spicy.

That I didn't know, but it's like you put the pepper flakes in.

What did you think was going to happen?

100%.

I have to say, when I landed in Cincinnati, which was a particular low point of my life, and I opened my phone to see you just like having a nice home-cooked meal, salmon and aina and salmon, potatoes, like I did want to reach to the phone and choke you.

Like, I was so, like, this fucking sucks.

I'm so sorry.

I'll cook it for you when you come.

Don't make me salmon, please.

What could I make for you?

Chili.

But you know where I went for dinner last night?

Where?

The 1230 Club, I think is what it's called, like Supper Club.

It's that place on Broadway

that Justin Timberlake owns.

Oh, and we like went there, but it was like snooze hour.

They were like, yes, and we went to the first floor.

The top floor has like a rooftop, a live band.

Shannon obviously knew like the cool places to go.

The food was incredible.

They had this live band, not playing like country, but playing like mellow, like Matt Nathanson, John Mayer.

It was a fabulous energy.

Like, I loved it.

I wish that I could have like stayed and listened to music and like had a few cocktails, but I went to bed early.

It was really good.

What was it like being in Nashville with Shannon?

I imagine that's like being in, you know, New York City with

Leighton Meester.

No, who's like a, I don't know, there's so many New York people.

I know who.

Who?

Annie Leibowitz.

Fran Leibowitz.

What's her name?

Annie Fran, Fran.

Fran.

It was fabulous.

I mean, Shannon is fabulous no matter where she is.

Like, and she knows all the cool places.

And like, I told her, like, today I need to get like a manicure.

like i need a certain things and she's like i'll pick you up tell me when you're done podcasting so like after this that's why you want to hurry this along yeah yeah yeah no i have to get in shannon's car like i'm very excited about that i understand

i like need a like i looked in the mirror last night and i literally i can't remember a time in my life when i've been so pale like my skin is literally translucent so i'm like shannon like um when we go get our nails done tomorrow can we go to sephora like i need she's like we'll take you to my house i have a spray tan machine i'll spray tan your face i'm like oh my god vab oh my god she's a spray tan queen, and she's just taking care of everything I need.

Like, I feel extremely well taken care of here.

Wow, that's beautiful.

Now you feel like how James felt

literally.

And of course, like at dinner, I was like, so James, James, James, James, James, James.

Like, what did James do here?

And what did James think of that?

And what did James think of this person?

Um, and what did we think?

I know we need to.

I'll tell you afterwards.

Okay, cool.

I'm ready to dive in.

If you are without further ado, did it do to do?

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I did not like that.

I keep forgetting that I need to change it until the last trope, you know?

Here are the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of the toast.

Yeah, I just keep, every time I embark on saying it, I forget that we, it's been changed and then it's too late for me to change my tune, literally.

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Our first story is some very sad couple news.

Cynthia Bailey of Real Houses of Atlanta and Mike Hill have split.

The couple broke their silence on the split with a joint statement saying, Love is a beautiful thing.

While we both will always have love for one another, we have decided to go our separate ways.

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Okay, like I was really shook by this because first of all, it seems like literally yesterday we were watching the whole saga unfold of their romance and their engagement and their wedding on Housewise of Atlanta.

It's also just like annoying because Cynthia's not on Housewise of Atlanta anymore.

So this is something I would like more information on, but she's not a reality star anymore and we no longer get that

intimacy

access.

Yeah, it's shocking because I thought they were such a great pair, and I'm saddened to know that my ships have to come back into port.

But also, it's like when people put out statements like this, and it's like, we love each other, we respect each other, we're such good friends, like we'll always be sweet to each other.

It's like that sounds like a pretty good marriage, you know?

No, it sounds like the makings of a great foundation, right?

Like, these two should date.

No, 100%.

Like, and so I, well, I.

Oh, by the way, you need to add to your list of single people Taylor Kinney.

Like, I

feel like we never got him on a ship after him and Lady Gaga, and it ain't right.

Okay, I'm on it.

Taylor Kinney.

And I guess we could put Lady Gaga on there.

Is she dating anyone?

No, she's dating someone, that normal man.

Love that for her.

The lay person.

I'm like, actually, I was so surprised by this Mike Hill, Cynthia Bailey thing.

Like, I also thought that they were OTP.

We met Mike Hill when we were doing Access Hollywood like two years ago and he was going to propose to Cynthia and he was like so excited about it.

I hope it wasn't that he ended up being like a fuckboy who cheated on her.

Like I'll be so mad.

But

I was surprised and saddened.

Saddened is a perfect word.

We met them both and they were together.

Not in LA.

No, not at Access Hollywood, but at a charity event.

Yeah, yeah.

We went to a party and they were together.

It was when they were engaged and they were so sweet and nice and cute together.

And like beautiful, like a really beautiful couple.

Yeah.

So for all of those reasons, this comes as a major shock.

Obviously, I want only the best for Cynthia.

It's not our business to know what really happened, but this statement, you know, is not enough story because if it was, then they should remain married, you know, forever.

The statement is giving, it's giving nothing.

Yeah.

Glad to know they're not bitter enemies.

Yes, that's true.

But something happened, clearly.

Because when you get divorced and you don't have kids with the person, like, it's no holds bar.

Like, you can fucking go low and if you guys really hate each other but like if you have kids together like that is kind of the one thing that stops you from like taking that very low blow publicly yes but i also feel like if you get divorced and you don't have kids together it's like bye see you never oh it's basically it literally doesn't matter like i don't even think you care enough to

slam them or anything because it's like you can literally move on in two seconds there's nothing tying you to this person you never need to see them again so it doesn't like hurt as much not hurt as much I don't want to diminish like divorce.

It doesn't

matter like the fact that you can't get rid of this person.

They will be in your life for 18 years.

So that makes

it more difficult.

Last night at dinner, me and Shannon were talking about this.

We were talking about how like there's really three types of divorces.

The first is like no kids and like it's basically just a breakup.

Like it's sad, but it's not, there's no like connection for life.

Yes.

The second is like the really messy divorce when like kids are growing up and it like that I think is the worst one like

Kids are in the middle of just like their life and their parents end up getting divorced and it's like really messy Then there's the one when like adults your kids are adults and Your parents get divorced and they just like want a new life and they and honestly I would consider that marriage a successful marriage you're married for 20 years you raised three kids like that's a successful marriage like that is totally fine.

And then like parents get to have like, you know, a second wind, like a renaissance

in their 50s.

And that one I feel like is really fun.

Oh, I feel like it depends on the person.

I think that it also depends on the kids, because I think sometimes kids just want the best for their parents.

So they're like, do your thing, whether that means together or separately, like I'm grown and I want you guys to be happy.

But other times, as we've talked about this before, like it rocks the very foundation that that person's premise has been built on that child.

And it's, it's even harder for children than divorce number two, as you that you shared yeah that's true but i also feel like for grown once say you're in your 50s you get divorced and you're gonna have like this new season of your life i feel like sometimes it's not what you pictured and it could be really hard and it can also be really lonely to be alone when for the last 30 years you have had chaos in your house yes but i think in a positive way sometimes it's even better than you imagined yes i feel like we've seen we've seen it all you know what it's also a really good

picture of all of the different kinds of divorces, real housewives.

Yeah, literally.

Because when I think of like someone in their 50s who's living a second season, I think of like Sutton.

When I think of somebody who's probably going to have like a rough road ahead, I think of Ashley Darby.

Oh, I don't think so.

Like right in the middle, like she now has to raise her kids for like...

their whole life, like they're just born while navigating the co-parenting situation.

Like she has a lot of time that she's going to be connected to Mr.

Michael.

You know what?

The more that I think about it, I think it depends less on the situation, the kids, the number of kids, the age of the kids, the years married.

And I feel like it really just depends on like the woman, you know?

Like, is this someone, like some people don't like being alone.

Some people love being alone.

Some people are very independent.

Some people are very dependent.

I feel like for Ashley Darby, like she

is gonna, she's so independent.

And like, I feel like she's just gonna be out there doing her thing.

Yeah.

And it's not like she ever got used to to Michael being a solid person next to her.

That's true.

That is true.

Well, I think Cynthia Bailey's the type of person who wants to be in a relationship.

I feel like that's what we've seen from her over the last year.

So I think she might be having a bad week.

Yeah.

It just made me sad.

So I hope she finds love

in her own time.

In her own time.

Next up, a little docuseries news for the Gleeks.

A Glee docuseries will be exploring the controversies of the show in a Discovery Plus series from Ample Entertainment.

Oh my God, Leah Michelle is vomiting, vomiting, vomiting.

You never know.

I feel like we've all heard the negative stories about Leah Michelle.

Like all of the stories about her, I don't know that there's anything that wasn't shared about her.

I feel like it could only be,

it would either be the same of what we've already heard.

Or maybe someone comes in and says, Leah was a darling.

No.

No.

I mean, like, you saw yesterday Chris Culver was talking about right, if he wanted to be traumatized, he would stay home, right?

Because he was on Michelle Collins's radio show, and she was like, You should come with me, I'm going to see funny girl.

And he was like, Well, if I wanted to be triggered, I could just be triggered at home.

Um,

so I don't know if they're, you know, like the narrative is necessarily shifting quite yet.

I don't, I mean, what else there's so much that could be spoken about.

To be honest, there's so much to talk about about glee.

Like, um,

multiple members of the cast have passed away at a young age.

The stories of each of those people are so

deep and layered and worth exploring that I do hope that they focus more on that and not just like Leah Michelle being a diva.

Like, when you compare, like, how Mark Saling was involved in this, like, child pedophilia ring, the very tragic, untimely death of Corey Monty, like when you compare that to like Leah Michelle being, like, probably, like, like a see you next Tuesday, like

apples and oranges.

Right.

And who knows what was going on with the other people in the cast, what they saw.

And all the intra-cast dating.

Like Leah Michelle did date Matthew Morrison at one point.

She also obviously dated Corey Monteith.

There was like a lot, I'm sure with the guests, like people who just came in and did cameos, I'm sure there was a lot of, these were like young, horny kids.

Yeah, you know what?

I actually do agree with what you said initially now, like mostly because Leah is having such an upswing in her her career like this could there couldn't be a worse time for this no she's finally like leaning into the whole reading thing she got funny girl the reviews are so fucking rave even people who don't like her have to acknowledge how stellar and talented she is like she's finally on the up and now i think we're going to be talking about like

you know she you know her traumatizing people on set yeah

But there's also just like so much like

like here's like okay you don't even think about you know what another kind of crazy ass glee thing that I think a lot of people don't realize is, is Melissa Benoist marrying Blake Jenner.

That's his name, right?

And then coming out years later, like

acknowledging how it was literally the most physically abusive relationship she's ever been in in her entire life.

And, and like, how it was the most traumatizing and chaotic relationship.

Like, and they met on the set of glee.

Like, there's so much,

like, there's so much shit and scandal and drama that comes from Glee.

Even not even like the main ones you think about.

Obviously, like Mark Saling is what everyone thinks about.

So everyone has a story and there are so many people in the cast over the years.

I also think the show will talk about, much like the Barney docuseries that's coming out, the impact of Glee.

Like,

there are very few shows that come out to the reception that Glee did and also that.

captured the moment the Zeitgeist and are the really the voice of that generation.

100%.

And Glee was that show.

So I think it'll talk, like even the Glee Project, like everything about there just, its impact was insane for so many years.

I think that will be focus of the docuseries too.

This is what Deadline says.

The series will have access to key cast and crew members who will share firsthand stories of their time on the comedy drama series that ran for over 100 episodes between 2009 and 2015.

It will lift the curtain to reveal the highs and lows of the production and the onset community, and will also feature testimonials of close family and friends with never-before-heard stories.

The series will address the controversies surrounding the stars, including the case of Mark Saling, who played Puck, who was arrested and pleaded guilty to possessing images of child abuse and killed himself while awaiting sentence.

Then there's the death of Corey Monteith

and Naya Rivera as well.

So it sounds like

it sounds like it's really not a Leah thing.

No, that's what I think.

It shouldn't be.

Like, I feel like there's much bigger things there.

And I feel like we've exhausted the Leah thing.

You know, everyone's said their piece.

I feel like everyone really has shared their story, their Leah story, you know?

And I don't know how interesting it is, like, for it, from like an entertainment perspective to hear about like the mean bitch on set.

Like, I think there's more

entertainment, as fucked up as that sounds to say, there's more, there's more there with the Mark Saling, Corey Monteith.

Yeah.

I agree.

Regardless.

This is a a documentary that needs to be made.

And also, like, how it became the most cursed show on television.

Like, there's just,

we have to talk about it.

The glee curse.

Yeah.

I wonder if Becca Tobin's going to be involved.

She should be.

And she's a friend.

She's friends with Leah.

Right.

So, we shall see.

Are you ready for our next story?

Anne Hathaway says her devil wears Prada look at New York Fashion Week was was an accident, but it was kind of nuts.

I see

on the TV show.

She didn't mean to have a modern-day Devil Wears Prada moment during an appearance on Today.

On Wednesday, the Emmy winner opened up about her look for the Michael Kors show, which broke headlines for its uncanny resemblance to

what her character Andrea Sachs would have worn in the 2006 film.

Plus, she's sitting next to Anna Wintour, who is the inspiration for Miranda's

things.

Plus, she had, no, the whole outfit was Andy.

She was in Andy cosplay sitting next to Anna Wintour.

It was art imitating, life imitating art.

No, it was shocking.

And what she said on the Today Show was like, when she wasn't supposed to wear that outfit, like the shoes for the other outfit she was supposed to wear did not fit.

So this was the second option.

And she like looked in the mirror and was thinking like, oh my God, LOL, this looks like Andy Sachs.

Like, I wonder if anyone will notice.

Probably not.

And then it became like this huge thing.

But you know what I find really interesting about this?

Because I never really sat down to think about how

I would have just thought that that Anna Wintour would have Ann Hathaway and like Meryl Streep like banned from ever being in close proximity to her you know do you think that she hates the movie I mean I don't think she loves it it's written by a former employee who's like out here exposing her disgruntled but it solidifies that movie is so iconic and it solidifies Anna as an iconic figure i don't think anna expects to be liked by everyone i think she knows who she is And I think in like the canon of her life,

Devil Wears Proud is ultimately

an iconic thing for her.

I would imagine that like the first couple of years after the film came out, like Anna was definitely bitter.

But now seeing how it's aged as like this iconic film and really put her in some sort of like hall of fame, I have to imagine that now it bothers her way less.

If anything, she probably embraces it.

But I just would have assumed that like, isn't that awkward?

Like, it's not like Anna was involved in the movie, you know?

Yeah, that's true.

But also the movie, even though we see Anna slash Miranda Priestley being extremely harsh with different people, she does have humane moments too.

And by the end, like, she wrote Andy a glowing recommendation and did everything for her that she said that she would.

So she's not like 100%

evil.

No, I mean, the scene where she literally like ruins that other guy's life in Paris to save her own job, Jacqueline Folet, like

that was not a great moment.

Not her finest moment.

Jacqueline Folet.

Yeah.

Anyways, it is funny that she talked about it.

I'm glad that Susannah asked her the question so that we could like put an answer to the meme, which was that she didn't know that, if anyone would notice, but that she thought it was funny too.

But don't you also feel like something I did not expect to see this year was like Anne Hathaway becoming like an it girl of fashion?

I just feel like she just started showing up in the last year at like events and fashion shows and just like different press opportunities looking like a glamazon when she was always like beautiful and stunning and like well dressed but like really like fashion girl

i feel like she's always

fashion girl i just i think that she comes in waves and hathaway like when she's really busy working she's really busy promoting but then she also goes away you know and is quiet and i don't know what she's doing in her personal life so i feel like we just get these like resurgences of ann hathaway and it's like oh where has she been I feel like Anne Hathaway actually does that extremely intentionally because there was like a two-year period where she didn't go anywhere and she was up everyone's ass and everyone started to hate her for no reason.

And she became like the most most hated woman in America and she didn't know what she did because she didn't really do anything except be annoying and like alive.

And I think that time like really traumatized her.

So she's like super

intentional with how much public work she does.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

I will continue to use this as a weapon against self-doubt.

Like when she won her Oscar, like girl, shut the fuck up.

Like,

just take the Oscar and go home.

Like, you don't need to use it as a weapon.

That's so funny.

For some reason, reminds me of Taylor Swift, whose album's coming out tonight.

Are you excited?

It's not tonight, Jackie.

It's in October 21st.

Why did I think it was tomorrow?

I don't know, but like, I did only come to the realization like yesterday or the day before that the album is coming out so soon.

It's next week.

Sorry.

I don't know why I thought it was tomorrow.

I mean,

I wish that were true.

That was just like the vibe I was getting.

She's been doing a lot of pre-promo.

Do you watch all those videos?

No, I actually don't.

I watch the ones with like the song title releases, but I just can't.

Like, I just, give me the music.

Like, stop.

Give me the music.

It's not my favorite promotional tool that I've ever seen.

Me neither.

It's very TikTok heavy, but like in a boring way.

And I love Taylor, so don't fucking come for me.

I'm just bored.

Yeah, you're allowed to be.

Also, like, give us a single.

Well, maybe we'll be getting a single tonight at midnight.

That's what people think because it's very unlike Taylor.

I mean, I guess she did that.

No, even she released.

Did she release a single?

Yeah, she released Cardigan for folklore.

And it was like a win before.

Willow or Ivy for

Evermore.

Like, give us a single, girly.

Yeah, what's going on?

Just a week.

There's a song on Evermore.

There's a song on Evermore that's like the sequel to Cardigan.

The thread continues.

I feel like that was the music video.

Yeah,

it's Willow.

Evermore.

You don't have to look it up.

You're like the queen of Googling things.

I am DB, here I come.

Oh, my why.

Oh, okay.

Willow.

All right.

Okay.

Confirmed.

Confirmed.

Cool, cool, cool.

So we have that to look forward to.

We do.

Finally, something to live for.

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Our next story

curious to get your take on this next story Heidi Klum and her daughter Lenny, 18, are slammed for quote, weird and disturbing lingerie ad.

So here are the details and then I'll show you the pictures.

Heidi Klum and her newly 18-year-old daughter, Lenny, are facing some backlash for appearing together in a lingerie, in lingerie, in a new ad for Intimacy, which is the Italian intimate wear brand, a job they hailed as joyful, but some are calling it kind of disturbing.

Right.

Like some pictures on my computer so I can read it.

Okay, let me read the story and then the pictures are gorgeous, like models.

Honestly, there's nothing weird about these photos.

The photos are really cute.

They're not like sexual No, they're not sexual but like lingerie connotes Sex sex and so I feel like if this these were pictures in them in their bathing suits bikinis like would be the same amount of skin So it's not like the skin that's weird, but it's like it's the connotation the connotation of lingerie, you know, I guess it's it's weird the photos themselves are not weird, but when you sit down and think about the photos, okay, yes, you'll find some weirdness when you sit right if I just saw the photos, I'd be like, oh my God, so cute, so stunning.

They posted the picture saying a story of self-confidence, joy, life, and love between a mother and a daughter.

Together, Heidi Klum and Lenny Klum celebrate the art of Italian lingerie.

Like mother, like daughter, every woman has a special place in her heart for her favorite lingerie.

However, some people,

yeah, some people are commenting.

I'd like to think I'm progressive in these things, but mom and daughter and lingerie in the same video shoot is just a bit ick.

Someone said the photo was weird and the caption makes it weirder.

would you think it was weird if it was two sisters

um i was thinking about that too i think it i would think it's less weird but still weird

a little bit but i don't know that i don't think it would get

maybe it would get some backlash but not this much no okay i've i've made my official decree it's weird It is like if they were an ad for like skims, that's just like underwear.

Undergarments.

Undergarments are different than lingerie.

Right.

And even though you're, it's not about the amount of skin that's shown.

And the company is called Intimacy.

Yeah.

It's, and they do lingerie, be like doing like la pearla.

Um, it's about the

connotation of lingerie.

I don't know.

I'm going back and forth on whether or not this is weird.

By the way, Lenny, her daughter, is absolutely stunning.

Absolutely stunning.

That's the real takeaway from this story.

Gorgeous, gorgeous girl.

It's weird, but it's also not.

Honestly, every time I flip to a photo, I'm like, it's weird.

And then I'm like, no, it's not weird.

It's cute.

Like, they're just being mom and daughter.

Like, it's weird if you make it weird, but it's also weird.

Another person said, beautiful and very classy.

More skin is shown in bathing suits.

Her daughter is 18, legal.

They're both gorgeous.

And the only reason for the negative comments is 100% pure jealousy.

Well, ain't that the truth?

Oh, who is that?

She just read everyone to filth.

Just a Twitter user.

It's weird.

I'm definitely jealous for sure.

Oh, for Duh.

I mean, look at that daughter's body's nice.

Gorgeousness.

But there's a weirdness element for sure.

An element of weirdness.

Agreed.

It doesn't need to be like the biggest deal.

I would just say like other lingerie companies shouldn't follow suit.

This isn't a trend that I want to see.

100%.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I am.

The Cancer Institute has slammed Lisa Rinna over her comments in the Real House Eyes of Beverly Hills finale.

Kathy Hilton isn't the only person upset with Lisa Rinna.

The American Institute for Cancer Research has slammed the star after they claim she used the specter of cancer as emotional blackmail to justify airing her grievances.

During the finale of season 12, Rinna told her castmates she would, quote, get sick and get cancer if she didn't get the gossip about Hilton's alleged breakdown off her chest.

In response, an AICR spokesperson told TMZ that Rinna was co-opting the disease to justify emotional blackmail.

They also noted there was no strong evidence to support stress being the cause of cancer, and that Rinna has taken a popular but likely false concept and regurgitated it to the show's millions of viewers.

Let me say how, like, Lisa Rina is the worst person in the world.

Um, and what she said was incredibly stupid.

Um, but I would like to think that the AICR has more important things to do than talk to TMZ about a real, a real housewife.

Like, this is incredibly stupid.

Yeah, it's incredibly bizarre that they are speaking to TMZ about what was just a comment on a show.

But there is like this conception that they're saying is not true that someone who holds something in, not one story about one person for one week, you're not like that you can't bring up, but a person who like lives a lifetime of not speaking.

You're only as sick as your secrets

might develop a form of like throat cancer or something.

Really?

But as the AICR rep

yeah.

People think that

I mean, it's not proven, but there are people who think that

based on people that they know.

This is just like not speaking their truth and

proof how you know people are really so fucking stupid and they're not okay.

Let me look up and see if you can.

Oh my god, you with the looking up enough

connection to

I can't when you like look things up like

yeah, no, I'm not getting what I need here.

Sorry.

Okay.

Well, um search later, but

I love people coming out of the woodwork.

I don't think that.

Yeah, I know, I know.

I love people coming out of the woodwork to like slam dumb things Lisa Rina says, but like this kind of makes the American Cancer Institute like look stupid.

Like go back to work, bitch.

Yeah, and I don't think it's really having an impact on what people think about how cancer spreads.

No, I don't think people are getting medical advice from Lisa Rina.

Right.

But it was a crazy thing for her to say, just within the scope of housing.

I was shocked when I heard it.

And very little shocks me.

Like, I just, of all the things that she could have said, I was not expecting that to be the thing that came out of her mouth.

Like, I was surprised.

Right.

Right.

It was shocking.

So

that's

add the American Institute of Cancer Research to the long list of people coming for Lisa Rena.

Yeah.

And that's something I thought I'd never say.

We'll see at the reunion what's going to happen.

I also don't even feel that bad that we miss part one because, like, part one's not going to have the juice that we need.

No, but it did have Jamie Lee Curtis who came on and said that, like, when her episode aired, it was like the biggest day for her charity.

And she was so thankful to Doreet for like her genuine enthusiasm, like, not in a mocking way, like her true unbridled joy and excitement about her products that she renamed the wind chime to like the Doreet chic wind chime or something.

And Dorit was like so moved and she was crying.

That is so cute.

That's one of my favorite things about Dareed, how she like is a fangirl of so many people.

She, and one, she doesn't hide it.

And two, she's in the rooms with so many people that she loves.

And it's like, that's how most of us would act.

And I think it's actually a very sweet trait of hers.

No, it's like a really genuine, like, she's like a little kid sometimes.

It's really sweet.

Yeah, and everyone in Hollywood is so jaded, but it's cool to like, and we see like them doing cool stuff all the time on, especially Beverly, Beverly Hills, but it's cool to have someone there who like like recognizes how cool it is agreed it's like she really represents us

she's an everyday woman she's a housewife for all

um so those are the fast life stories you definitely needed to know absolutely every single one of them and i'm so glad that we were able to be that kind of guiding light and guiding force for you guys you're welcome um and this was our last show of the week because

you're welcome This was our last show of the week.

There's no show tomorrow, obviously, because I have a show tonight and I'm going to be in Nashville traveling home.

So we're back on Monday.

Thank you guys for a fabulous week of being fabulous girlies.

We hope you enjoyed it, these, enjoyed it, these fabulous shows.

Anything else you want to say, Jax, to the peeps before we wrap up for the week?

Ooh, interesting.

What could I say?

What could I say?

No, I think I'm all good.

I'm excited for everyone who gets to go to your show tomorrow.

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