S5 Ep122: Self Improvement AND Self Acceptance: Tuesday, August 30th, 2022

1h 5m
  • Jennifer Lopez Serenaded Ben Affleck at Their Georgia Wedding with New Song: 'Can't Get Enough' (PEOPLE) (18:11) 
  • Demi Lovato regrets making her documentaries: I wish I would have waited (Page Six) (27:34) 
  • Irina Shayk Poses with Ex Bradley Cooper on Tropical Vacation Getaway in Rare Instagram Photo (PEOPLE) (37:13) 
  • Chris Rock says he was asked to host the 2023 Oscars (NY Post) (48:54) 
  • Lisa Rinna archives post supporting Garcelle Beauvais' son: It 'did nothing' (Page Six) (57:48) 

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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Tuesday.

Hope everyone's having a great Tuesday.

Hey, Jax.

How you doing?

I'm during good.

A couple things off the bat.

One, you really put your foot in that GMM this morning.

Yeah.

And then also I heard you in my headphones being like a little like, you almost, you had a little skepticism in your, in your voice.

So

because you popped off so hard.

I was just like, oh, okay.

Because my GMM every morning is the same.

I feel like I feel like yours is fluctuates based on what's going on in that mind of yours.

For sure.

But one thing about me, when it comes to a tune, I am going to pop off.

So I just, I don't want you to ever be surprised about that ever again.

Yeah.

And now one question before we start.

Is that a Simla I see?

Oh my God.

No.

Like get your eyes checked, girly.

Two days in a row.

This angle where my camera is where I see.

I like come from the side.

So I don't know what's going on betwixt your legs.

It's

bad for you.

And it looks like a gorgeous little Simla.

It's my favorite set from Amazon.

Oh my God.

Wow.

It's really not a Simla.

It's really not a dress.

Yesterday I could understand.

Romper dress.

You don't see the little thing between my thighs.

Today I'm wearing a full blouse and shorts.

Oh, okay.

Well, you look gorgeous as usual.

Thank you.

You look stunning.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Doing my best, you know.

Mama Tings.

Mama Tings.

It's been a busy morning.

I have such a busy day filled with content galore.

Speaking of content galore, I recorded a Patreon episode yesterday.

It's a vlog.

It's up already.

It is long overdue, but it's all of my favorite baby nursery mama tings.

You know, our favorite onesies, our favorite gear, our favorite pacifiers, our favorite gifts, gift suggestions.

If you're just, you know, not interested in baby tings for yourself, but maybe, you know, someone that you know is.

So it's a really great vlog.

It's honestly, it's over 30 minutes of me just like talking about the best items that I've, and I've been through so much trial and error over the last six months that I feel really good about sharing my recs.

Plus, there's links to everything.

So it's there's just like sneak peeks of your house and Rold's voice.

Yes, whoever.

We

rolled how did you know

yes so it's really i i've been meaning to do it for a while i'm so glad that it's out there because i do i get a lot of questions about my favorite baby products and the thing is and i went on like a whole tirade about this and i but i can't not say it it's like there are so many products out there there's almost almost too much information it's not like there aren't enough places that explain what's what but it's like i don't have time to read a megilla about like different stroller converters So I found so many of the processes for picking out sort of the bigger equipment to be so overwhelming But now that I've chosen you know I got what I wanted and it's the one I got

I'm really happy to share you know what actually was good for us and what's really not

just like tangent kind of I want to really talk about

Rold

and

I want to talk about

the nickname that I just want like full credit.

Like I fully came up with it, right?

Well, actually, I'm kidding.

I'm even kidding.

In our family, like with certain things we all do, like years later, we're like, well, how did we get into Casey Musgraves?

And literally nobody in this family will acknowledge that it was me.

Literally nobody, but it's fine.

It was me.

And so now that it's like, you know, only six months, like I feel like we're going to be calling him Rold for a while.

And I just want to put it out there, everyone listening, it was me.

It was Claudia.

And that is also because

i usually come up with the nicknames yeah but it's like i can't nickname myself that's why i don't really have a great nickname because

and i think the same goes for him you know i just call him bug and different variations of bugsy tugsy bugsy

tugsy is what we're calling him these days but that's a very like affectionate nickname like rold is really um

More of a distinguished nickname.

No, for sure.

And for anyone who might be confused as to why his name is Rold, is because obviously his name is Harry his you know birth name is Harrison which honestly like I don't know Harrison like who the fuck is Harrison like obviously when people got you gifts they put Harrison on like a chair I'm like whose chair is that?

I do not know Harrison, but he was named for our grandfather, Harold.

It's a more modern version.

But he was so much more of a Harold when I first met him.

So he honestly is such a Harold.

Like, is it too late to change?

Like, his birth name should be Harold.

I know, but I just didn't didn't want to like send him to school with the name Harold.

No, for sure.

But I agree with all that you're saying and I would also say if you are

actually never mind.

Well I was gonna say like I feel as though when parents are thinking of naming their kids, they're always thinking about like elementary school, how kids can be so mean.

And it's a really good like thing to have in mind to filter out names, but there's so much more to life than middle school, you know?

I agree.

No, I totally agree with that.

You really can't get too hung up on it.

Right.

But I mean, Harold is a very antiquated name, and I just wanted like a modern version of it.

And I love the name.

It was always going to be Harry.

So it's really not like it mattered as much.

But love

wound up just being such a Harold.

And we also called him a lot in the beginning Haroldson because he's a mixed colour.

You know, kids are unexpected because obviously you would think, okay, the kid whose name is like Gaylord would get, you know, nicknamed and all these things.

But kids, like, you can't predict.

Like, Ben has the most regular name, Ben Soffer.

You know what the kids used?

Like, they came up with a nickname for that, Ben Soccer.

It was like, oh, soccer.

Like, and it honestly

plagued Ben.

Like, when we talk about it, I could tell there's some deep trauma there.

That's so.

And he just has a regular ass name.

Like, you really can't, you can't predict what's going to get kids like made fun of.

Yeah.

All of these things go into naming a person, but there's not like, you shouldn't do it just because of like middle school or whatever.

You should go with the best name for the man, but calling him Harold did lead to us calling him Rold.

Which also is Roldini, which is a personal favorite of mine.

Roldini, Roldini.

He thinks I'm crazy, but he like loves the chaos.

No, he loves it.

That's the sort of energy.

He just wants entertainment.

And there's literally no one more entertaining than you.

Also, I'm just only saying this because I'm literally sinking into this couch.

Tomorrow, finally, I get my Bucal chair that you have.

So we'll have matching chairs.

This couch,

I, you know, I definitely exceeded the weight limit fluctuating through the years.

And she's served me well, but her time has come.

And I'm excited.

When,

what about when we have guests?

I think you're keeping the couch.

No, I'm not, I'm not getting rid of it.

I'm definitely keeping it.

But for your solos endeavors, I think you're really going to love this chair.

And if I have a guest here and you're not here and it's just like a one-on-one, which which i think we plan on doing you know like you doing some interviews that you want to do me doing some interviews i'm so excited yeah i will be using your chair because mine like is broken the chair that you used to sit in is not nearly as sunken as mine got it okay i love that for you uh Yeah, I'm excited because we are now that we're separated like you'll do some in-person interviews just like you did with TPG that I can't be there for and if we're ever doing remote interviews like we're kind of gonna start doing them solo which is something that I've been like itching to do for a while.

yeah because whenever anyone we get like a pitch one of us is always like fuck yes and the other one's like meh like i don't really care because we really do cover a wide range of interests between the two of us so i actually think it's probably going to be better we've been i've been getting asked a lot like what are you guys going to do about guests um and some of them if it's like a really big interview i'm sure you'll fly up yes but for you know the regular ones i actually think it's going to be better it's easier to do a one-on-one interview and there's always one of us who's more interested in it than the other Yeah, no, I'm so into it.

Me too.

See how it goes.

I think this is a good call by us.

Yeah, we shall see.

New era, you guys.

New era.

So, yes, we have a new Patreon.

I'm also on tour, girlwithnojob.com/slash tour.

Excited to be in the Pacific Northwest in a few weekends.

Oh, you know what?

I have a dilemma because I have an appointment with Dr.

Geezy today.

I'm sorry.

And jealous.

I know, but obviously, I only go like maybe once or twice a year for like a little lip filler and some Botox.

But I really like shouldn't be getting Botox while I'm on tour, especially because I'm going to film a special at one of these remaining shows.

And so much of my comedy is like physical, like my eye.

Like I need to be able to move my face.

I think I have to say no to Botox.

Yeah, just say no because you probably still have some leftover.

It's not like you're like me just raw dogging it through life right now.

And you, I think better error on the side of caution.

Plus like you have a young, sprightly, gorgeous foch, and you don't want to, like, do a special.

And it's like, girl can't move her face.

And that's all anyone's talking about.

No, I know, but it's like, okay, I'm recording a special.

I want to look my best.

What do I do?

Botox.

But I honestly

impact the company.

Right, right.

It would impact the comedy.

It would impact the comedy.

No, you have to say no.

But what about lip filler?

You know, I love when you get lip filler.

Oh, no, I'm definitely open to it.

Even though I have to, I have to sit down with her, have her take a look.

She's really good about not making me look crazy.

And the last time I did it, which I don't know how long ago it was, she gave me a a new type of formula that lasts way longer.

And I still might have it in my lips.

And if that's the case, then I don't think I should be getting more because I really am very conscious of not looking nuts.

You definitely have something in your lips because you don't look like

the girl that you used to look like.

And thank God for that because I'm about to destroy my phone with the app Time Hop.

I really,

I just cannot believe how many years I walked around looking the way that I did, like with no regard for my face, my looks, my clothing, my body.

It's really, it's astonishing.

Like the morning breath was probably the ugliest year of my life, which is so crazy because it was such a great year for me personally, professionally.

Like I got married that year.

This is 2017.

And I just feel like it really goes to show like.

What you look like really doesn't matter, you know?

Even though now in hindsight, I'm like, ugh.

But I was having all this wonderful success in my personal life.

We got this brand new show.

Like all these great things were happening for me, even though I was like an ugly beast.

Yeah.

And I think that's the takeaway, honestly.

I'm just trying to be positive.

I think that's a really good lesson.

But you know what I've realized recently?

I feel like up until recently, I would look back at old photos like where I was beastly and be like, you're a beast.

Miranda Beastly.

Yeah, but now maybe it's because like I'm a mom or maybe just because I'm a beast now.

I look back at even the former beastly moments and I'm just like, you're so cute.

You know, I know.

Like you have like a protectiveness over your younger self.

Like, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know which

one it is.

If it's just because I'm bigger than now than all those times where I thought I was big or if it's just because like I have mama eyes and it's like you're a sweet young thing.

Stop being so hard on yourself.

No, I think becoming a mom like definitely makes you realize like, you know, the woman, you look back at those pictures, you can't hate that woman because that woman is a part of role being here today.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's all meant to happen.

You were meant to be in the place, you know?

Yeah.

yeah no and i just think like if you're not looking back on old photos and wanting to die immediately like you're not living the true human experience no and you're not growing you're not that would mean that you look the same then as now and it's like so we've learned nothing we're learning nothing and i just think we're not learning how to you know fill in our eyebrows in a way that we do like that's not too much but that is enough i feel like there might be someone out there who's contemplating you know whether or not to get the mole removed and this might be the sign that you need to get the mole removed like Like you won't regret it and it'll change your life.

Yeah.

Or

Botox.

For me, that's pretty much always the takeaway.

Yeah.

Or Botox or fillers.

Yeah.

Like if you want to.

We're on the fence.

We've only had positive experiences, but you know what?

I actually know some people who have not.

So do your research.

She's allergic, remember?

Right.

Or just the good thing about it is that it is all temporary.

So if you don't like how it is for you, you don't have to do it again.

But

I love it and I miss it.

And I'll be back soon.

I'll be back.

And this is back.

This is not to say like everyone needs to get plastic surgery.

I just think

normalize disliking things about yourself and not just having to accept them.

You know, like you can change things.

Like, and if it'll make you feel better inside and you're doing it for yourself, like do it.

Yes, but also normalize, like nobody's perfect.

Love yourself the way you love it.

Of course.

It's such a hard line to walk where it's like normalize, normalize self-improvement and self-acceptance.

Oh, Jackie.

What?

That's it.

Because I strongly believe like in just loving who you are, like the person that you were born.

But then I'm also like, the second something arises about my body or my face or anything that I don't like, removing it immediately, you know?

Yeah.

I mean, it's just like balance.

It's both.

It's just like most things in life.

It's somewhere in the middle.

Layered.

Layered.

It's a little bit of both.

Not everything is all one thing.

Not everything is all one thing.

Yeah.

I think that's a great lesson to get into today's episode with.

I agree.

So without further ado,

it is time for the prospects.

Where are you?

Where are the boys?

Theo's just busy as fuck.

Like, honestly, no time for Auntie, no time for mom, building his empire, going on walks, being sexy.

It's a tough life.

Also, what's going on with the doggy crew now that Bryce is gone?

Like, is it the same?

Are they forlorn?

Completely disbanded.

I have not seen mystery.

I have not seen butters.

I have not seen a single member of the gang since Bryce's departure.

He was the glue.

He was the glue.

Literally, Bryce is Rascal Flats.

Me and my gang.

We live to walk.

We walk to live.

Okay, wow.

I mean, I wasn't expecting that this morning, but Bryce will be happy to know that he doesn't have to have FOMO.

Nothing's going on without him.

Right.

Now, without further ado, do to do, here are the fast-five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

Did we hit the crunch?

Apparently yesterday

too.

Oh, there was rumors starting.

There was a lot of rumors starting.

I'm tired of rumors starting.

I'm sick of being.

We hit the crunch on our soundboard yesterday, and I never thought to like

check on before I uploaded the audio that like it was there because it's always there, but it wasn't there.

So I'll double check today.

Oh, okay.

Oh, I thought that.

Got it.

The soundboard here at HQ.

Sorry.

And we hit it.

So the people who said that it wasn't there, like, they weren't lying.

No, no, no.

Got it.

I thought for a second when you were like, we hit it.

I was like, where are these rumors coming from?

No, we physically hit it, but I don't believe it made it to the final cut.

It might be because of the new way.

Yeah, yeah.

But I can always add it in in a post.

So

I'm glad we know about this now.

Obviously, you know, remote things,

always in flux, always getting better.

I mean, my chair arrives tomorrow after tomorrow's episode, which is so annoying, but

constantly evolving, constantly shifting, working on it constantly.

Love it.

Okay, now let's get into, I'm ready.

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Our first story: a little lovely news.

Jennifer Lopez serenaded Ben Affleck at their Georgia wedding with a new song.

Past the mic, the bride is ready to sing.

In a video obtained by TMZ, J-Lo is shown singing a never-before-heard song for her new husband, Ben Affleck, at their Georgia wedding celebrations last weekend.

In the clip, the actress and singer croons directly to Affleck, who is seated in a chair directly across from her, smiling and enjoying the performance, before holding the mic out to the crowd to have them join in on the catchy refrain, which was, can't get enough.

The lyrics go, all night, I can feel the passion in your eyes.

I'm still in love with you.

She sang as she was surrounded by backup dancers.

Now, before I get your thoughts on all of this, I just want you also to know that JLo has slammed this leaked video of her serenading Ben at the wedding.

She brought it to me.

But it wasn't a J-Lo-approved video that they put out on.

No, it didn't come out through the newsletter.

It was taken by a guest and then leaked and sold to TMZ.

So she commented on an Instagram video saying, this was taken without permission, period.

And whoever did it took advantage of our private moment.

i don't know where you all are getting it from because we had ndas and asked everyone to not share anything from our wedding that is our choice to share anything i put out is private on the jlo and it's to share with my fans which i will do when i am ready to this was stolen without our consent and sold for money thank you for caring i love you guys okay so it sounds like she's more upset that she didn't get the exclusive for onthejlo.com than she is about the fact that it's a huge invasion of privacy and i do agree with her like that she should be mad if the point of having like a really small low-key wedding like that when you're a celebrity is that shit doesn't get leaked and so that means that either you know someone they invited friends and family leaked it or someone who was working at the event because those are the only people who would be inside Yeah, and that's fucked up.

It is fucked up.

I feel like someone who was a guest I'm sure guests could take pictures and videos, but just like not share anything Maybe someone like took a video and then like went home and their like kids saw it on their phone and like sent it to themselves and then you know sold it to TMZ.

You're being really optimistic.

I just don't think one of her 100 close personal friends who like got the invite is selling.

Like that would be so tricky.

It's fucked up.

Yeah.

It really is.

It's a betrayal.

But that doesn't sound like the reason as to why she's upset over it.

Like she's missing out on the engagement, the likes.

Yeah, and the subscribers.

And we are doing it all for on the J-Lo.

Right.

But let's talk about the actual contents of the video because you have strong feelings on this concept.

I do.

And I actually think I'm going to really surprise you.

So

she's getting roasted.

People are like, this is so cringy.

And there's definitely an element of cringe to it.

And for the most part, like, I think it's really touch and go when

the bride or the groom is going to sing or dance, like whatever their, you know, talent is.

I think it's more often than not going to be weird.

I happen to think that like this video was really cute.

I mean, she's J-Lo, for God's sakes.

Like, why, why get a performer to perform at your wedding when literally J-Lo is the bride?

And like we said a couple weeks ago, like they're extremely chugging.

And this is a really chugging thing to do.

It's very live, laugh, love.

I think it's really on brand for them.

And I kind of found myself like finding it really cute.

Actually, not finding it like incredibly cringy.

It was definitely cringy a little, but that's them.

Yeah.

I also think what makes it cuter is the fact that like she didn't share that she was doing this.

There's not like or maybe she was going to but the way that we're finding out about it is like they really intended for it to be a private sweet moment.

It wasn't like her like putting out a new song with like the music video from her wedding on the J, like it wasn't a whole machine.

Maybe that was the plan though.

So I'm, you know, it was stymied, but the way that we're seeing it, it seems very genuine and sweet.

And I agree, like J-Lo is getting married.

Who else are you going to have perform at your wedding?

An original song.

Like it's very.

It's cute.

It's cute.

And they're just so, she's such a romantic, you know?

Right.

Almost in a choogy way.

Yeah.

And

I'm never gonna,

I'm never gonna knock that.

No, and it wasn't like this big stage with tons of backup singers dancers it was literally j-lo on the dance floor him sitting in a chair right in front of her and like three backup dancers like it was kind of low-key and i don't know i wasn't bothered by it but people like on the internet were just like dying over like the cringe factor and i do think something like that when done at a wedding always has the possibility to be cringy and more often than not it does but on this particular occasion i actually found it cute And I also feel like there are certain people who, when they get married, like they should be singing at their wedding, you know?

right like who is andrea bocelli gonna you know sing down the aisle to if not himself right you know even i know you have harsh feelings michael bublay should be singing at his own wedding the way michael boble's image in my mind never recovered from that instagram live with his wife is so astonishing to me because you know i forget everything and i actually like i've been to a michael booblay concert at barclay center with ben like i actually am like a big fan um

and the way i was never never able to look at him the same, I don't know whether it was a, you know, a one-time thing or it was really just, you know, a bad look and that's not how he really is.

But I saw something in him in that Instagram live.

And if you don't know what I'm talking about, just Google it.

Like, I

like do not fuck with Michael Booble

whatsoever.

Yeah, he has a new song out, though.

That's really good.

And that's why I feel like if he sang himself down the aisle at his own wedding, I would be like, oh, you would hate him.

Egotist, egotist, like, because I saw like a really like dark side of him in that Instagram live.

I know.

So that's not a good example.

But like let me, like, Adele.

Like, I don't know.

That's what I was going to say.

Yeah, if Adele's getting married, she should be singing

someone like you.

And I definitely

have regrets about not singing myself down the aisle at my wedding.

But remember,

not down the aisle.

No, I literally, instead of a bouquet, give me a microphone.

So you have regrets that I didn't sing you down the aisle with my rendition of Camp Help Falling in Love?

But the thing is, we both had modern Orthodox weddings and Khalisha is a real thing.

So actually you can't sing in front of a rabbi.

And that's why I personally didn't sing.

Right.

That's why.

That was the only reason.

Otherwise it would have been a no-brainer.

No-brainer.

But I did think it was extremely, and I feel like I've said this to you before, but it's worth mentioning again.

I do feel as though it was extremely gracious and extremely generous and really, honestly, I'm not even being sarcastic.

It's indicative of the type of person you are, like in a positive way, that you let me sing at your wedding reception because first of all like you know me

had to find a way to make it about myself and like you just handed me the opportunity right on a platter you let me sing probably the song i'm best at singing of the like my top five in my repertoire coming home from country strong and it was so meaningful but it was also like

she gets me you know She gets me.

She really gets me.

You know, I actually forgot in this conversation that you sang at my wedding.

Right.

Not in the ceremony, in the reception, but I just think like that's something something most, I don't think most brides would do.

And by the way, you know what it reminds me of?

Like when brides throw their bouquet, but instead of throwing it, they go up to like a bridesmaid and hand it over and the bridesmaid turns around and their boyfriend is on one knee, which is like fucking psychotic.

Oh my God, I just got chills.

I didn't know that's what people do.

Oh my god.

So it's like a trend.

You know, videos from weddings always go viral on the internet.

And there's this thing where like at the end of one girl's wedding, she'll toss the bouquet and it's like, oh, the next girl who's going to get married.

Let's see.

But instead of tossing it, she just walks right over to like her maid of honor and gives it to her.

And the maid of honor is like, what?

And then they turn her around and the maid of honor's boyfriend is on one knee.

That's so funny.

So it's like the official.

And people in the comments, like people on the internet, think it's fucking psychotic.

Like, this is your day.

You paid so much money.

These are your friends and family.

And like, you're going to let some other girl make it about herself.

Honestly,

all the brides who have done that are bigger women than me.

I could never.

Yeah, I would never.

I would never be either of the people in those, that situation, but I had never heard of this.

And I actually think if not overdone and in the right circumstance and at the right time in the wedding like literally at last call yeah i think it's cute yeah but it's giving sheena and brock like using someone else's wedding budget for your engagement budget like i don't like it it's tacky yes but like if it's your maid of honor And it's, you know, Sheena and Brock, it's like, these people are coworkers and we know that they're close friends, but it's like you're glomming onto James and Markel.

Like, what?

Where's your family?

Where's your friends?

Like, if it was someone who's like, their family, friends are there.

This girl, you know, know, she's all dressed up for the wedding.

Like, it's kind of sweet.

If it's the bride's sister.

Yeah, if it's like you.

Speaking of Sheena and Brock, there's been a lot of footage coming out at their wedding and it was beautiful, like really, really gorgeous.

I know, I was telling you.

That Dream Hotel in Mexico, great advertising because they did a bang-up job.

Yeah.

Did you see their first dance?

Yeah, it was really cute.

I wonder if Sheena sang at this wedding.

Oh, good as gold.

I hope so.

Because we're good as gold.

I got to add that to my playlist.

Yeah, so JLo saying herself, not down the aisle.

There's a difference between down the aisle and performing at your wedding for your man.

And we approve this message.

We approve.

We do.

Shocking.

Shockingly.

Yeah.

Great.

I'm glad that we fleshed that out.

Me too.

I feel good.

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Yep.

Demi Lovato regrets making her documentaries.

She says, I wish I would have shown.

I was tweeted.

Yep, Demi Lovato won't be gracing the small screen anytime soon.

The singer who uses she, they pronouns revealed in an interview with Alternative Press that she doesn't.

I like how page six put that in there so they didn't get like hate for using the wrong pronouns because Demi recently went and changed her pronouns from they them to she they.

So she prefers, she doesn't care like if you're gonna do she or they.

So like to ward off any backlash, they put that sentence in there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She doesn't plan on making any more documentaries about her life.

Quote, honestly, I'm really sick of watching myself and I think other people are too.

And if they aren't, they can watch my music videos.

Over the past decade, she has released three different documentaries outlining her struggles with addiction and its impact on her career.

Quote, I wish I would have waited until I had my shit figured out more because now it's cemented.

Sobriety is what works for me and nothing else.

Her most recent documentary, Demi Lovato Dancing with the Devil, detailed her near-fatal drug overdose in 2018.

Following the incident, she revealed that she was California sober, meaning she still smoked weed and drank alcohol in moderation.

However, a year later, she gave up substances completely and went into treatment.

However, her dislike for documentaries doesn't mean she wants to stop sharing her story with fans.

She's just planning on waiting until she's figured out what she wants.

She said, quote, my story is not done, so I want to be able to say by the time I've written a book, okay, this is me grown up.

Yeah, I mean, I agree with her

point, but I think

her saying, you know, I think people are sick of hearing from me.

I don't think that's why she needs to stop making documentaries.

And I don't think we're sick of her documentaries.

No, I think, right, that's not, that's not it.

It just seems really confusing and inauthentic for every couple of years to release a documentary and be like, forget what I said in the previous one.

This is how I feel and this is who I am.

So it's like, what do we watch the other one for?

Yeah, I agree.

I think that documentaries are often like memoirs where

it's like,

figure out what exactly that you want to say that like even though you will continue to grow and change over the years that you will not negate what you said in all of that but just like that was your truth up until that point so I feel like

with her documentaries in them she wasn't always completely honest with herself and therefore honest with us so it's like right they no longer are relevant and not even the California sober thing but I feel like even her first documentary she was talking about you know her struggles as if they were over.

But even then we find out in the next documentary that she was like between takes engaging in some of the behavior that she was talking about as if it was in the past.

So there's no pressure for anyone, especially people who are struggling to do these documentaries.

Like

we will hear from you when you're good and ready.

And like if that's when you're 50 years old, like then there will still be your audience is there.

Like don't be doing these things for us when you need to heal first.

And I think it's just become really trendy to do celebrity documentaries, no matter how long you've been famous for or no matter how old you are.

And I do feel like documentaries should be reserved for, you know, and when it comes to celebrities, people who have been in the business a really, really long time.

Like I think one of the better documentaries I've seen recently was the Shania Twain one.

And it's like, it was her journey at a glance.

Her career is not over, but.

What she had to say, like now was the time.

And it's like Taylor Swift's first documentary was like literally 15 years after she got famous.

Like I think you need to wait a certain amount of time.

Like I think, and I always use this example, like I think Sean Mendez's documentary was one of the worst pieces of content I've ever seen.

I was just about to say, like, Sean Mendez doesn't need a documentary.

No, it had only been like six years since he got famous from Vine, and it was just, it was not good.

And the whole documentary was about Camilla when they literally broke up six months later.

So then it invalidates, it's like, oh, irrelevant, we don't care.

Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of pressure for people who are not.

That's difficult to say, though, that your life can't change as a celebrity after you release a documentary.

That's not what I'm saying.

No, I don't think that's what you were saying.

I think there's a lot of pressure for people to do documentaries.

I think there's a lot of interest in documentaries on all different subjects.

And these streaming services are constantly looking for content and they're just like giving out documentaries.

But one, I think a lot of times they're premature.

And two, I think it can be really invasive for people who are not ready.

But like, who's going to turn down an opportunity to share?

Not even the money, but to like someone comes to you and says like, and especially if someone, you know, a celebrity who's maybe struggling with something and wanting to share and it's a really good medium to tell your story, but it's not always the right time.

So I think it can be really attractive to do a documentary because you feel like it's the perfect forum to talk about what you're going through.

But I think it also puts a lot of pressure on you to be healed and have it all figured out.

And then you don't.

Okay, so premature is the perfect word to use for it.

Also, I think another really good example of someone who waited an extremely long time is Paris Hilton's documentary that was on YouTube recently.

One, it totally changed how I think a lot of people saw her.

I think they ended up having a lot of respect for her hustle and her business acumen and her brain.

And, you know, she's in her 40s now.

We've known her since she was 17.

I think it was a really good documentary and the time was right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm just like thinking about documentaries in general.

Or if the documentary is going to document, you know, a milestone, halftime by J-Lo, 5'2, Lady Gaga, both of those documentaries were like, here's the process.

This isn't my whole life story.

This isn't my e-true Hollywood story because the story's not even close to over.

This This is the six months I spent preparing for the Super Bowl.

Also, Katy Perry.

That was a good one because it wasn't, you know, here's who I am and what I know.

Here is, you know, me being on a historically large tour, you know, being the first woman to do so many things.

And, you know, at the same time, my personal life.

Like it was a moment in time, not like, this is who I am.

I also think with Demi,

this feeling of like she's constantly

acting as if like the story's over is not just in the documentaries.

Like it's in her music.

It's in her interviews, it's in her song lyrics, it's everything.

And that's something that I feel like maybe she feels the need, like she has to constantly be saying, like, okay, now I have it figured out, but she needs to release herself from that.

And it's just, it's not just the documentaries.

I totally agree.

Like her overall voice.

And it's,

and Miley, too.

That's what I was going to say.

But Miley's is less serious in the sense that like, I think Miley just struggles identity-wise when it comes to her music, not who she is as a person.

Like, I think Miley probably has a strong sense of self, but when it comes to her music, it's like every couple of years, she'll go to a different genre and be like, this is what I've always wanted to do.

It's like, well, you said that last time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Even though I do feel like the rock era she recently entered into is actually the genre she, and that's actually just indicative of her talent.

Cause when she released Malibu and that whole album, I'm like, this is the real Miley.

Yeah.

Because she's really good at what she does, no matter the genre.

I agree.

And then now I wonder if like there is a correlation between them them being child stars

and not just Disney, just child stars and like

having to one, like figure themselves out in the spotlight and then having to constantly prove that I figured myself out.

And just, you know, like that's what most people go through privately.

But I think a lot of people arrive maybe at that conclusion sooner because they don't have all these external factors.

Yes.

And, you know, kids who get famous really young are a lot of the time stunted at the age that they got famous at.

So perhaps, you know, Demi Lovato, who I think is almost 30, is having these, you know, revelations when other people her age had them maybe 10 years ago.

Yeah.

So no more documentaries from Demi for now.

I think that's probably, you know, for the best for everyone.

Yeah.

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Irina Shake poses with ex-Bradley Cooper on a tropical vacation getaway in a rare Instagram photo.

Irina Shake and ex-Bradley Cooper are having fun in the sun.

On Sunday, the supermodel uploaded a post on Instagram featuring various photographs of herself on a tropical getaway with Bradley Cooper.

Some of them, she can be seen wearing a floral bikini and mesh leggings while resting her head on the actor's shoulder.

In other images, she's posing beside some pigs on a beach and she's lying in the center of a heart drawn in the sand.

Now, people are saying, you know, this is co-parenting at its finest.

They're obviously on a trip with their daughter, Leah.

But these, like, I'm sorry, this just looks like a romantic trip that they're on.

Yeah, I don't think like even the best of co-parents would go on like a trip, the three of them, to a romantic island.

And post, no, maybe, maybe the best of co-parents would, but post these pictures, like they're staring us in the face.

Like, these are couple pictures.

Yeah, no, I definitely

together.

Who drew the heart?

And what does the heart signify?

And it wasn't Leah, the kid, drawing the heart.

So no, and it's like, if they weren't romantically involved at all, she wouldn't post this carousel.

Yeah.

Unless like she's trying to make it seem like they are.

But

I don't know her.

I just don't think that she would.

I think that they're telling us that they're together.

And why is everyone like, oh, here's a romantic picture of the two of them on a romantic vacation?

It's like, co-parents.

Yeah, like, what aren't people seeing?

I agree.

I think this is pretty much like a confirmation that they're back together.

And, you know, since they have a a kid together, like, I love that.

You know, I think that's, you know,

children of divorce's dream.

You know, like mommy and daddy are getting back together.

It's wonderful.

But just as, you know, like a celebrity obsessed girly, I do not ship these two, like, whatsoever.

I think they're hella toxic.

I didn't really ship them either, but I'm shipping these photos.

And if they really, you know, did separate and come back together, like, I love that story for them.

So I'm shipping from here on out.

Yeah.

The vibe that I've always gotten from the relationship.

I know Wimbledon, we know.

I actually was not going to say Wimbledon.

Really?

But those pictures of them from Wimbledon are one of my favorite things about this job.

Like just the fact that I get to talk about that.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, Google it.

Relatable.

The vibe that I've always gotten from their relationship was that she was like so much more into him than he was into her.

And I think that's like really not

a, you know,

if it's true, I don't think that's like a sign of a healthy relationship.

And if anybody in a relationship is going to like the other more in a hetero relationship, like it has to be the man.

Sorry, in order for things to work.

Yes.

Okay.

So with that, looking at these pictures, again,

it could be more of what you're saying, where it's like, first of all, in the picture of the two of them, like if I'm just looking at body language, like his arms are just like down.

I feel like, and also he's been rumored to be seeing Huma Abedin.

So if like he has a girlfriend,

if he has a girlfriend and like he knows Irena's like going to try and like make it seem like something like his arms are down He's kind of stiff.

It could be because he was like giving water to the pigs.

I also feel like he doesn't like photos.

Do you know what I mean?

No, but like now through the lens of like she likes him more like she's trying to look like yeah, we're together.

Haha.

And by the way, I have no proof of that.

It's just a vibe that I've always felt.

And it was really highlighted with the Lady Gaga stuff because she just looked honestly like pathetic.

They made her look dumb.

And if I were her, I would never fucking forgive him for that.

Yeah, they did.

They did.

They made her look stupid at the Oscars, like his date.

He's googling-eyed, you know, Lady Gaga, giving her a hug and a kiss.

And she's just sitting there.

So that's just always how I felt.

Like, she is so desperate to be in a relationship with him.

And he, like, couldn't be bothered to give a shit.

And I have no proof of that.

Like, that's just the vibe that I get.

Yeah.

Well, through that lens, these pictures tell a different story.

And who drew, who drew the heart?

She did.

Irena.

Who took the picture?

Self-time.

Irina.

She brought her tripod.

So that's just how I feel.

So I'm not like dying for these two to get back together.

I will say, though, I was appreciative to Irina because I don't feel like we get very like many candid shots of Bradley Cooper.

He's like very private and we certainly don't get shirtless ones.

And he looks so hot.

He does.

And he is just like

beyond handsome.

And the other day, I actually went on a Bradley Cooper totally random.

I saw a clip on TikTok.

You know, I'm always seeing like them show.

Oh,

I'm so annoyed.

What?

I just remembered something.

What?

And I, okay, I could not sleep last night because right before bed,

I, so what I was going to say before that reminded me is I'm always ending up on TikTok where like they'll show you a random movie and like they'll explain to you the whole plot in like 60 seconds and it makes you want to see the movie even though you already know what happened.

And so I saw one from American Sniper and that sent me on a rabbit hole just like googling pictures of Bradley Cooper when he was, you know, dressed up and in character as chris kyle because he was so fucking hot and ripped so fucking hot but yesterday before bed i saw

a clip 60 seconds and i couldn't peel my eyes away once i had seen it and i have always heard always heard about the human centipede and people are like it's so disgusting like don't ever look it up and i never looked up what is that and if i had it's a movie okay and if i had to have guessed what it was it was i thought like they were you know taking people and like removing their limbs and like sewing them to other people, and they create like a chain of humans.

Because I knew it was a chain of humans.

Yeah, but I thought it's just like people wrapping their arms around each other.

But I didn't even know it's a movie.

But if you said a human centipede, I would think it was like a hundred people just holding each other in a line.

Right.

It's just a connection.

It's like a long chain of people being connected.

And I thought people were like, it's so gross.

I'm like, oh, I'm sure they were like stapling body parts.

That's really what I thought a human centipede was.

And I never bothered to look into it.

I've never thought

about it.

What I found out that the human centipede was last night.

Please don't.

I'm not going to tell you.

Okay.

I'm not.

And if you don't know what it is, like, I really encourage you, like, this is not something you want to be curious about.

Like, it will ruin your life.

Oh, my God.

I couldn't sleep.

I'm going to vomit.

It was a movie.

Is this a real thing?

I don't know the backstory.

I just know it's a movie.

And I'm going to look it up.

A gory movie with a gory concept.

It's not gory.

It's so disgusting.

It's very similar in a sense to the feeling that you get from Black Mirror Pig Prime Minister episode.

Okay.

Okay.

So it's a disturbing movie with the disturbing plot

about this warden of a prison who does something so disturbing to all the prisoners.

Is Bradley Cooper in it?

No, but I saw a clip on TikTok from the same account that I saw the American Sniper one on.

I don't know.

It's not about who's in it, you know?

Yeah.

And I don't know if the human centipede was like a concept biblically that turned into a movie.

I don't know what the origins is, but I know there's a movie and I know there's a thing like the human centipede.

I don't know where it comes from, but I finally found out what it was.

Okay.

I have no desire to know.

No, Jackie, protect your heart.

I'm going to.

Do not.

And if you're watching on YouTube, do not write it in the comments, like for real.

Like, if you don't know what it is, protect other people.

I hope nobody ever has to find out what it was.

I wish it was what I thought it was, which was just like, you know, murderers

putting shoulders on butt cheeks.

I don't know.

Okay.

I never thought about this, honestly.

I don't even really.

I'm so sorry to have changed the tone.

I just forgot that I was literally, it was a night full of terror for me.

Okay.

Okay, let's just move on.

So, do you think Irena Shake and Bradley Cooper are back together After everything we've discussed.

No.

Me neither anymore.

Now I know why everyone's just like, go parents.

Right.

No, I don't think so.

Those arms tell a different story.

Yeah, the body language.

And I think that if they actually were romantically involved, Bradley wouldn't want that shit posted.

He's never been public about his life.

But, you know.

Showing the world healthy co-parenting, that's probably something he wouldn't mind.

Yes.

And if Irvina is not his girlfriend, like he can't tell her what to post.

Not even if she was his girlfriend, that she could tell he could tell her what to pose, but she would want to be mindful of what he wants because you're in a relationship and you don't want to start a fight.

100%.

What you just said, 100%.

100%.

Irina went rogue.

Irina went rogue.

Iroga.

Okay, I'm glad we got to the bottom of that.

They're not back together.

Ships.

Back to port.

Back to port.

I think like when he dated

who?

Suki Waterhouse.

Oh, yeah.

Like, if I could come back in this life as anyone, it would be Suki Waterhouse.

So I could date Bradley Cooper and Robert Pattinson.

Yeah, and you'd be in some really good movies, too.

What is she in?

She's in like everything.

She was in something we just watched, that Woody Allen movie.

She was in Rainy Day in New York.

Yeah, she was the girlfriend who comes back.

She's always like the girlfriend who's out of town who comes back.

And so it's like she only has to do like one day on set.

She's in the credits.

She's at the film festival.

She's on the red carpet.

But Jackie

totally.

She's just his girlfriend in the movie.

I don't even remember.

Remember when Elle Fanning is with that director?

Yeah.

And she goes to his apartment.

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

And then he like shoves her out the door.

She's also in, she's in something that we love.

Sorry.

I'm just,

I'm going to her IMDb.

She's like, she's just one of those girls who I feel like was born under a lucky star.

Again, I know nothing about her or her life.

Just that's the way it seems.

Like she literally released a song, even though I don't think she has any experience.

And like the song went so viral on TikTok, like the type of virality artists only dream of.

The skyline falls and I try to make sense of it all.

Yeah.

Wait, why isn't she in anything else that I see?

We're the same.

If you guys like know that song from TikTok, you would die if you found out.

Oh, you know, that Suki Waterhouse sings it.

She's going to be in Daisy Jones and the Six, which I know you didn't love the book, but there's a series coming out of it.

And now that we're Elvis girlies, Elvis's granddaughter is playing Daisy Jones, Riley Keogh, which I knew that when the news broke, but now I didn't have like a care so much about Elvis.

So Elvis's granddaughter, Lisa Marie, had a baby with who?

She's had, I think she has four kids that are half-siblings.

And Riley Keo, I don't know who Riley's father is.

Interesting

Very interesting.

And Suki Waterhouse is playing Karen, who I think is the female drummer in the band.

Oh, yeah.

She was honestly, she was cool.

I like the drummer.

Yeah.

Low-key, you know?

I think it will be a very good TV show.

It was a, I liked the book, but you

made me.

I did not like the book.

I did not like the book.

And there were a lot of people who agreed with me.

And a lot of people said that the audiobook was amazing.

So I think, you know, book, audio book, TV show.

Like, it might be the type of story that needs to be told visually if it's so much better audibly with different people.

It was like a play.

Yeah.

I heard the audiobook was.

Yes.

Okay, our next story.

Chris Rock says he was asked to host the 2023 Oscars and his response was a no.

For Chris Rock, returning to the 2023 Oscars would be like returning to the scene of a crime.

The comedian told a Phoenix comedy show audience on Sunday that he was asked to MC next year's event, but declined the opportunity.

According to the Arizona Republic, the star told the crowd that going back to the Oscars would be like asking Nicole Brown Simpson to go back to the restaurant where she left her eyeglasses before she was killed in a reference to the murder trial of O.J.

Simpson, who was acquitted in the case.

He rejected hosting duties.

His rejected hosting duties would have come a year after Will Smith slapped him at the Academy Awards.

Okay, that Nicole Brown joke was like hella unnecessary.

Very unnecessary.

Like it's a joke.

So you by the way,

do you know that the Nicole Brown, when she left her sunglasses at the restaurant and then Ron Goldman came, you know, the restaurant was Craig's?

No,

I feel, yeah, it was, and I feel like everyone knows that, but they don't really put together that it's also like currently still celeb hotspot Craigs.

Got it.

Well, anyway, think of that a restaurant like that, like, it wouldn't survive a scandal like that.

They didn't do anything.

No, I know, but why should Craig suffer?

Totally, a local business.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, I don't think it's the same as that, but it's a joke.

So, no, it's a joke.

I don't know who thought it would be a good idea to ask him.

I love that Chris Rock said no.

And I don't know what his reasonings were, but mine would be: I literally got slapped.

You didn't even kick this man out.

Why the fuck would I work with you?

And like, give you the ratings because, of course, everyone would tune in, see what he said.

It would be like a big moment.

And why the fuck would Chris Rock do that

for the Academy when the Academy was just like-carried on with the show show and then gave him an Oscar, right?

And let him speak.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I understand why they asked him.

That feels the Academy has his best interests.

No, I understand why they asked him.

Like, it would be amazing.

And that's really all everyone was talking about from last year.

And whenever there's a moment that everyone's talking about, or even like a host or presenter, then you know, they try and capitalize it on it for the next year.

It would be great television if he hosted the Oscars because now you can't really talk about the Oscars without like just thinking of Will Smith and Chris Rock,

the slap.

But yeah, decline.

It's also a thankless job.

And even if this slap hadn't happened, like, a lot of people don't want to do it.

And so you end up like always getting like backlash or people saying you didn't do a good job.

It's a thankless fucking job.

Yep.

It's hard work.

And Chris Rock doesn't need the work.

Like he's literally one of the best-selling comedians of all time.

Like he's just fine.

Yeah.

So I think it was a no on all fronts.

I wonder who will host.

But it's like, I don't know what the reasoning is why Kevin Hart has never done it since, you know, that whole thing.

Is it that he hasn't been asked or he's just over it?

He was asked, I think.

I think he's over it.

And

I think he was,

I don't know if pissed is the right word, but I think the piss was like taken out of it for him.

And the fun was, you know, it's just like, for sure.

It was his dream.

Then it became just like this whole thing.

And it just, I think he moved on.

But, you know, and another great example for a celebrity documentary that was done well was the Kevin Hart one.

It wasn't, you know, Kevin Hart was born in New York.

It was the

year after the Oscars thing, like the journey he went on, what he learned, et cetera.

And in the documentary, he was like, I'm so sorry.

Like, it didn't seem like he was pissed at all.

It seemed like he was like groveling almost.

Like, he was so apologetic.

Right, right.

For something he literally said 15 years ago.

I actually never watched the documentary, so I'm still like, I only know.

Right.

So in the documentary, his tune completely changed.

Then, you know, when he wouldn't apologize when it was announced um he was like i've apologized a million times like i'm not gonna let this keep following me he was very you know strong in his stance and a year later or maybe a year and a half later when that documentary came out his stance was completely different he's like i understand why i hurt people so that kind of defiance he had was gone and i don't know if that was just something he was saying so that he could move on from it press-wise or if that's how he genuinely felt but i felt like he was already moved on like he's the one who went back.

Yes.

So I don't know if he wants to do it or not, honestly, but he would be great.

Even though, like, I don't think it's really a job worth getting.

No, I don't think so either.

And they can try as they may, just give it to Ricky Gervais.

Yeah.

He's really the only person that does a good job.

Yeah, I would.

And that's not to say other people aren't talented, but it's a very specific job that not everyone is cut out for.

You have to be ballsy as fuck and not a part of like the Hollywood core.

Like Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, James Corden.

Like they're never going to really say something outlandish because they're a part of the problem.

Like, they're part of like the Hollywood elite.

Whereas, like, what the fuck does Ricky Gervais care?

He lives in London.

Give it to Andrew Schultz.

Right.

Like, somebody on the total outs.

To really be able to poke fun at

like the elephant in the room, which is like, this is so dumb.

Yeah.

It's got to be somebody.

It's a master.

I would love it.

They're the only ones with the courage.

100%.

And I'm not saying like you were.

I really.

No, we're not suggesting ourselves.

Honestly.

I don't want it.

No, no, I don't want it either, but I want to see some of my favorite comedic podcasters out there roasting.

Roasting, like Tim Dylan.

Tim Dylan.

That was my nomination last year.

I wasn't?

Yeah, when we had this conversation last year and we decided it needs to be a podcaster.

We were talking like Bill Burr,

Tim Dylan.

We just watched Andrew Schultz's special.

He was

really dark.

It was wild.

It was wild, honestly.

It was a wild ride.

It was so funny, though.

And, you know, part of the reason I was interested in watching it was because there was like this big scandal with him where Netflix bought his special and they had requested he take out so many jokes that for the sake of his art, he didn't want to do it anymore.

And he bought back his special.

I'm sure that put him honestly in enormous debt.

So I wanted to see like what was too crazy for Netflix.

And I assumed it was too offensive in terms of like not politically correct enough,

too crass too you know

out there but i think

the reason why it was pulled from netflix which i was shocked by was it was too dirty like it was really sexual and that's not what i was anticipating i was ready to hear him say some like crazy controversial

there was there was all of that yeah

But it was also really dirty.

It was sexual.

I don't, the way that we were able to watch it, because it's kind of hard to find because it's like a...

Yeah, it's this, it's like a, it's a service that you can purchase on, on a website.

But then like, once you get it, you have to airdrop, like airplay it to your.

We airplayed it from our iPad to a TV.

It's not a, wasn't a premium experience.

No, the watching it was premium, but I feel like trying to go and find it was hard.

But maybe that's just because we were unfamiliar with the platform.

But anyways, it was really, it was a wild ride.

It was wild, honestly.

Yeah, it was funny, though.

So don't watch it with like literally anyone you respect.

No, yeah, don't watch it with your parents.

No, do not watch it with your parents.

Watch it with like your husband, boyfriend, girlfriend, something like that.

Yeah, that's what you had.

Or by yourself.

Yeah, it was funny, though.

It was funny, but like, I definitely felt like a little awkward.

Like, your husband sat in for like 30 minutes, and I was like, please leave.

Well, Ben was there the whole time.

Yeah, no, I know.

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Our fifth and final story, a little housewives news.

Lisa Rinna has archived her post about supporting Garcelle's son.

She said, quote, it did nothing.

So Rinna posted to her Instagram a screenshot of messages with a fan who asked why her post she had posted the Bravo statement.

A lot of other housewives had posted it too about...

From different franchises.

Right.

She reposted it, like, you know, in defense of Garcelle's son.

And then she was asked what happened to the statement on her Instagram.

And this was her reply.

I archived it, that's all.

I've been keeping my social media page very edited, if you notice.

I'm keeping it very positive, non-negative, and fashion and fun.

I don't want anything negative on my grid.

And since my own children are being threatened as we speak, I felt it best to archive it.

The statement did nothing, so why keep it up?

Our children are getting death threats, all of our children.

It's gone beyond, and I need to keep my family safe now.

I will no longer be saying or posting anything about the show.

Okay, like I get what she's saying.

It definitely has gone beyond, and I'm sure that everyone's kids are getting harassed.

I don't think to the level that Garcelle's kids were getting harassed.

One, because Garcelle's kids, like their harassment was like a coordinated attack, like by bots.

Like it was really, and it was like race, racially motivated.

It was like really bad.

I get what she's saying, but

I do think deleting it or archiving it, whatever she said, like

makes me think there's more to it, you know?

And like, of course, yeah, things like that do nothing.

That's so performative.

That's literally like the basis of social media like everything is performative like everything you post like it just is so I agree with that concept But the posting and then archiving of it makes me think it's like there's something more nefarious going on Yeah, it makes it like you know drama filled but what's I what's

I Like I'm not caught up on the show, so I don't know like what's changed why all the kids are now getting death threats when the show has been airing for more than 10 years.

Every other franchise, like this hasn't been an issue until this this season.

And it's just making me think of like what you theorized,

where you theorized the bots were coming from.

Like, what's new about this season that's different from other seasons?

Diana.

Yeah.

So, um,

there's really not even that much going on on Beverly Hills right now.

Garcelle's son, especially her younger one, like, was involved in a brief storyline with Erica.

Erica was like, wasted, and she yelled at him, like, get the fuck out of here.

And Garcelle was like, do not talk to my kids like that.

Right.

And it wasn't really a big season.

And that was weeks ago.

Right.

So I don't know why

this is happening when it's never happened.

It does make you think.

There also are a lot of people who think that Lisa Rinna was behind the bots, but Lisa Rinna's been on this show for many years and it's never happened.

So I agree.

Like the new factor has to have something to do with it.

Not has to, but now that you told me that theory, like, that's all I can do.

It makes sense.

Because like the fact that all the kids are getting, this, they were never in play before.

Like this was not ever happening.

And that's always been a line that I feel like the housewives never cross.

Most of the fans really don't cross it unless

unless the kid is doing confessionals, you know, like, and then Jolie.

What about Jolie?

Like, remember when people were messaging her, like, disgusting things about her mom and it was on the show?

Yeah.

Yeah.

See, but I also think that this is a lesson to housewives and reality TV stars everywhere.

Like, it's, especially for your kids, if you,

if they are on public, like, I just think that

that's something you should rethink.

I think kids are totally off limits, but you know how disgusting the internet is.

You know how fucking crazy Bravo fans are to the point where, like, I'm actually worried about the network, and I think that their crazy fucking fans are making them look really bad and having a negative impact on like their overall image.

So, I would just keep that in mind.

Like, I do think if you're gonna be a housewife, like, your kids' social media should be on private, which makes it tough because then you look at like Gigi Hadid and you see what it did for her.

And then you look at Delilah and Amelia, and it's like wow there's so many opportunities and and I get it but you have to weigh you know the pros and the cons.

Yeah 100% I think that the cons really outweigh the pros.

It depends like where you

what you're looking for but

yeah and it's definitely never gotten to this level now but now that it has I think it probably makes all the other women on different franchises who have kids on the show it makes them you know second take a second and think.

Yeah.

It's just wild.

It's wild.

And then everyone was freaking out because Lisa Rinna took Real Housewives at Beverly Hills out of all of her social media, out of all of her bios, thinking that she's been fired.

But I feel like she pretty much just explained why she did that in that Instagram story.

She said, I'm not going to mention the show on my socials anymore.

So yeah, I think for,

I mean, I think that's kind of silly.

It's like, you're on the show.

What are you trying to pretend like you're not on social media for these bots?

Like they know that you are.

But I think for Rinna, because she really, you know, she's like a celebrity before.

She's a housewife.

And so I think she's just trying to like separate between like, here's me, Lisa Ryna as a celebrity.

And then like, I also am on this TV show.

It's a little too late for that.

She used to be a celebrity before she was a city.

Yes, no, no, no.

I know.

Now,

it's a little too late for that.

Like, all of her.

Her followers are Bravo fans.

Like.

She's so enmeshed with that.

But I think she's like trying to separate it.

Like, even like maybe like Erica Jane and Erica Girardi.

But there's nothing to separate.

There's nothing to sell.

There's nothing to separate.

And I do think her taking it out of her bios and stuff is very like dramatic dramatic and it's only gonna cause people to talk and

and don't get me wrong I would love for her to be fired but I don't think that that's what happened no not at all and I do think it's a possibility

but it hasn't happened

no but I think like based on this season, I think that it's a possibility that she might not return.

She's very, everything she does is like kind of low budget.

And I don't think she can keep up with this group of women.

Honestly, I feel that way.

Yeah,

I have to watch to see for myself, but those reasons don't sound like fireable,

especially for someone who like not fired, but like not asked to be back.

Yeah, no, but no, not sorry, not fired, but those just seem like personal preferences of yours.

Oh, she's constantly bringing the drama, like constantly letting someone else know what someone else said.

Like, she's

she's doing what she's supposed to be doing.

Like, I guess.

Um,

so yeah, period.

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