S5 Ep85: Toast Tunes with Jill Zarin: Wednesday, June 29th, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast and happy Wednesday.

Hope everyone's having an amazing hump day.

Let's get the Strice Brothers out to celebrate hump day.

We have our pillows.

The Strice Bros are here in spirit.

They're actually extremely busy today packing for an amazing weekend out east.

They are so excited because they're such Hamptons girlies.

Brassen Streison, Brass and Streison, Brass and Stratson, Bratson Streison, Brats and Stratson, Bras and Streisen, Brison Streison, Brison Stratson.

You know, Bryson Streisen is kind of the song that never ends.

I was just singing that.

When do you end it?

The thing about me is like when I learned that song, I never unlearned it and I will never you.

I will be singing that song well into my 90s.

This is the

people who know that song, okay.

I think everybody knows that song.

I think everyone is really hoping that you don't start it because I don't think there's a more annoying song or anything out there.

And I really think it would be

harmful for your brand if you start singing that song.

I just feel like there might be people who don't know what song I'm talking about.

I'll sing it once, okay?

No, no, no.

I personally, like, I'm boycotting this.

This is the song that never ends.

It just goes on and on, my friend.

Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was.

But they'll continue singing it forever just because this is the song that, and then it goes on and on and on.

And don't lie, I saw your shoulder shaking a little.

That song has a way with working.

I can't, I like this.

I can't talk about this song.

Like,

I just, I hate it so much.

Oh, my God, I love it.

You did a nice rendition.

I'll give that to you.

But, like, I need to move on from this song.

I think I have trauma.

Why?

Because it's so annoying.

It's gorgeous.

Like, for me, the concept of a song that doesn't end, heaven.

Let us know what you think.

Are you pro or con?

Yeah, everyone's going to be con, but that's because they don't know anything.

They don't know shit about fuck, as you would say.

Put it in the swear jar.

No, bitch, that's your thing.

You owe me like $1.25.

Okay.

No, I owe baby to baby a dollar $25.

I'll send it.

Don't worry.

I'll make sure the money gets there.

Oh, sure.

She's going to run a Ponzi scheme through my swear jar.

Buy a purse.

Today is Wednesday, which means a multitude of things.

The first thing it means is that our live show, Breaking Bread, our Spotify original, has a new episode coming out tonight.

We will be live from 7 p.m.

Eastern Time to 8 p.m.

Eastern Time.

You can listen live on the Spotify app, or if you want to download the Spotify Live app, make a username, join the chat, get pulled on stage.

That'll be really fun.

It also means that we have dear toasters today, which I'm super excited about because I read through them.

And the last one is truly a doozy.

Like, I don't know if we're going to be able to give proper guidance because it's truly a conundrum.

I think you need to make that the first one because sometimes by the third one, I'm still thinking about the first two, and I can't wrap my head around.

That's just a little secret, a trick of the trade.

Done.

Wow.

You're so

efficient.

What's the word?

Accommodating.

It's a pleasure.

Today's episode is also really special because at the end of the podcast, we have an interview with Jill Zaron, Talking Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip.

The video is also on YouTube.

So check that out and just sit back, relax, and enjoy the power of the toast.

You know, by the time you're done listening to this episode, it's basically July 4th weekend for you guys.

100%.

Would you you say that we have a great show for them today?

Do you want me to say that?

Like, are you ready to start?

No, no, I feel like there's so much more to be said.

Actually, I literally, every day, it's like when we do this show, but just my days in general, like when I'm done with the day, I never think about it again.

Like, I don't know what I did yesterday.

Every day I like sit here.

I'm like, what did I do that I wanted to share?

IDK.

You know, I think that's part of survival.

Like...

Leaving things in the past.

Yeah.

But yesterday we did record the Redheads episode about girls with bright futures and Claudia joined.

I did.

Jackie, we were FaceTiming.

She was like, I'm going to go record the Redheads.

Like she was sitting at her desk with her microphone and I'm like, should I make this about me?

And I definitely did.

You know, I think that four people is the most amount of people you really can and should have on a podcast.

You've got a fifth who's no wallflower.

Right.

Like, definitely, I think Dana was, you know, most affected by my presence because she probably gets like sidelined most of the time because she's like, not shy, but she's not as like loud as everyone else.

Yeah.

I definitely think it was a really fun thing that like I shouldn't do again because it is too many people.

Yeah, it was, but we had a really good time and you know one more opinion and Claudia actually took a stance that no one else had so I'm glad you added value to the conversation.

Yeah, justice for Kelly.

Justice for Kelly.

Also, what's crazy is that this is already my sixth podcast I'm doing this week and it's only Wednesday morning.

Wow that's insane.

Isn't that insane?

I wait to do one more after the same for you because you did Redheads.

Yes.

And we're yeah, by tonight it'll be seven.

No, no, no.

Tonight we have seven and eight.

Seven we're recording after this for Patreon.

And then breaking bread.

And then breaking bread is eight.

Eight podcasts in three days.

podcast podcast podcast they never sleep we're giving you content all weekend you guys so you if you're on a trip in a share house with people that you don't know because you're with your partner's friends like listen to the toast we're here for you that's why like whenever i see like any people i follow have podcasts and most podcasts are weekly and they're like oh i have to actually do it tomorrow like what

Like if they're always saying I'm gonna do it on Monday and it's like actually I'm gonna come out on Tuesday this week.

What were you doing?

And that's not to say like recording a 60-minute podcast isn't a lot of work.

It is, but like literally, what are you doing?

When a person has seven days and they need an eighth day.

Yeah, no, like you're, you're always doing, people always are like, I'm going to do every Monday, every Monday.

But more often than not, they're like, actually, this week, I'm going to do Tuesday.

Yeah.

It's like, girly, we're doing eight podcasts in three days.

But then again, that's why we're Titans in our industry.

Right.

That's why we're number five on the comedy charts right now.

And we have two episodes in the top 10.

Yes.

I saw that this morning.

I actually screenshotted it.

I was like, I'm going to post it to my story because I was feeling hashtag proud.

As you should, bitch.

As you should.

I think I will.

I like never brag on myself unless it's like I'm reposting someone else, you know?

Unless someone else is doing it for you.

Right.

But like even the number two on Spotify thing, I didn't see until someone put it in Toast After Dark.

Though I do look at the charts, I just, I never even thought we're never on the Spotify charts ever because like most people listen on Apple podcasts.

So I don't even go there because it's a little depressing and it feels like we're being shot.

Irrelevant, irrelevant girlies, right?

No, but we're just irrelevant.

Yeah, no, but and that's, you know, there is comfort in being irrelevant.

100%.

So, you know, I think part of this job is like it comes in waves.

Like a lot of people are talking about you and then like there's a lull.

And when you're in a lull, you're like, oh my God, like my life is over.

like I'm at least for me like that's how I feel I'm like I'm depressed no one's talking about me um and then like a peak will come and even if people are talking about you it's always gonna be good and bad of course so then I'm in a peak and I'm like shit like I would long for the days of being irrelevant right right right like just quiet out the noise right that's just like the mental health roller coaster of being a podcaster and an influencer and we speak on behalf of influencers like every kind of the voice for the influencers so it's actually so funny I said after Monday's episode I got so many messages from influencers like thanking me for my tirade justice for influencers Yesterday, I got so many messages from Tuesday's episode being like, why do I feel like the influencer you were talking about who you like hate follow is me?

I'm like, no.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

I'm like, girly, if I follow you, like, I love you.

I don't follow people I hate.

Right.

Can you tell us like who thought it was them?

Just some talkers, some like people like that I'm friends with.

I think they were like joking, but like.

Oh, they?

I think they were messaging me to find out who the influencer was, but I will take the secret to my grave.

I love that for you.

To my grave.

And as will I.

I know.

Steel trap.

And that's what's so important about being in business with your sister.

Yeah.

Because if you were just like my friend, you wouldn't really like,

you would keep the secret, but like if someone pressed you and like you were drinking, like you would say it.

But you're bound by blood by that secret.

And I don't have a lot of people.

I don't drink.

Right.

And I don't have a lot of secrets.

Do you?

No.

No, I think like secrets,

for one, it's tough to have, it's important to have like personal like things and thoughts, whatever.

But it's like they say secrets keep you sick.

And if you can talk about something, like it already unds the burden.

That's true.

So that's my philosophy.

I like that.

And I try to like, if there's something going on, that's maybe a secret.

Like, I definitely tell, like, you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Mom and like our family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't have secrets from like my close, close circle.

Yeah, you don't.

You don't.

No, I don't.

I'm really like an open book.

I should probably keep more secrets.

Close it up.

Close your likes to married men.

Close my book to married men.

Well, we have a great show.

And I'm ready to start if you are.

I guess so.

Hmm.

How's Harry?

He's good.

Thank you for asking.

He's just a sweet little nugget.

Dreaming of Auntie?

Dreaming of Auntie.

You know, he really loves you so much.

You know what I'm dreaming of?

Like spending like four days uninterrupted in the same house as Harry.

Like that is going to be like so special.

You know, when he like got all of these clothes for the 4th of July, he's such a patriot.

Like he loves his country.

And he's really going to be in theme all weekend.

It's going to be really special.

You guys, like, I cannot wait.

And I've spent like uninterrupted.

time, not to like pit niece against nephew.

Like my only experience.

Here I go.

But my only experience like with children is of course Michaela.

Like my first everything was with Michaela.

And it it was amazing you never forget your first you never forget your first but michaela like did and does hate me with like a deep fiery passion and i get it like i'm super annoying like and i guess she doesn't want to be like entertained all the time like she'd rather hang out with her friends or like watch tv or play with her toys um but there's something about harry that he is like obsessed with my annoying energy and to have that energy received is so fulfilling like i really can't put into words like what that's like like harry would love the song that never ends done he would love it he's like it never ends.

Sign me up.

Sign me up.

And Harry, like, I swear, like, I always sing to children because that's, like, my talent.

Most kids, like Michaela, would just, like, look the other way.

Harry, eye contact, smile, giggle, thinks it's the best thing.

Like, he's obviously like a true.

I feel like he's going to grow up to be a teacher.

He's going to be the art.

I think he's going to grow up to be a talent agent.

Like, he sees talent.

He knows what's good.

That's so true.

We should get him a job.

He should also be like a film critic, like Ebert and Roper.

Oh, my God.

I could totally see him on the back of taxi TV Sandy Kenyan with the Eyewitness News movie Minute.

But he would just think everything was so amazing.

No, no.

What are you trying to say?

No, like he loves everything.

He loves entertainment.

No, I think if someone was singing poorly, he wouldn't smile.

Why I sing and he loves it.

But you're his mom.

Like he heard you.

That's true.

He heard your voice in utero.

Like he knows you.

That's true.

Me, actually, you know, somebody did say something in our Toast After Dark Patreon group that I thought was really poignant.

Because we were talking maybe on a Patreon just about how, like, obviously I'm Harry's favorite auntie, truly by default, because I spend the most time with him.

But we definitely have this connection and someone was like you know you sat here for nine months pregnant sitting with me for an hour every day I talk like 75% of the time like Harry definitely knows my voice and I saw that then when he came out of the womb He was like, oh, that's that bitch.

That's my bitch.

Yeah.

That's my morning toast girly.

I like that theory.

Me too.

And I think it's totally possible.

I think so too.

Hmm.

Makes you think.

Makes you think.

Maybe I got to go like sing around all the pregnant people I know just so when their babies come out, we have a connection.

We find favor in there.

Yes, I do.

Definitely.

You know those machines that like you put like two things on the belly and then there's wires connected to a microphone?

Yeah.

First of all, when I'm pregnant, I will be purchasing one of those.

And second of all, I'm going to purchase one now to go around to all the pregnant people I know and just like serenade their children.

Love that for you.

You're welcome.

Thanks for watching.

I just realized I haven't eaten a thing like all day.

My stomach was making crazy noise all day.

It's not 4 p.m.

It's literally 9 a.m.

When you wake up early, it's like late in the day.

Would you like some of my fiber one bar?

No, because we're doing so well on the charts and I don't want to ruin things.

Yeah, no, no chewing.

So I'll starve.

Yeah, that's fine.

Yeah.

Should we dive in?

Now I feel ready to dive in.

So without further ado, do do do to do.

Where are you?

Come back to the toes.

Do it again.

Do to do to do,

where are you?

Wait, why are you changing the melody?

Why can't I improv?

It's only okay when you do it.

Yes.

Do it do to do,

where are you?

Come back to your dante.

Come back to yada.

Come back to yada.

Welcome.

Come back to Brasenstrasse.

Brasenstrassen, Brasenstrasse, Brasenstrasn.

We need to release an EP.

Like of all the toast jingles.

And by the way, like, that would be an amazing album for kids.

Okay, so let's say, how many songs?

Maybe like six to eight of them to be on an EP.

Bryce is Trison, obviously.

Do to do.

Dora.

Dora the Explorer.

Perfect angel Dora.

Love of my life, Dora.

Sweet kisses, Dora.

Crunchy lips, Dora.

Sweetest fur, Dora.

That's actually the song that ever ends.

Oh, that is.

Okay.

Final story.

Yes.

Wait, we have more.

Well, we have some other ones.

Snitch on the toast.

Oh, snitch on the toast, but I'm bum.

You were singing, like, we have some personal songs that we sing.

I don't know if we would include those, like, when you sang, like, Iroxen,

Lil Harry, Lil Harry.

That's such a good song.

So we can maybe add that, like in the bonus Patreon edition.

Oh, welcome to the morning toast.

Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the morning toast.

We probably have to get like copyright licensing for that from She's the Man.

Yeah, but there's one other song.

Oh, and then also sometimes, what was the new Bryce one?

Bryce and Strasin, Bryce and Stras.

No, there was one member.

You got it.

Oh, first of all, Bruna.

Bruna, Bruna, Bruna.

Bruna, Bruna, Bruna.

And also, Thumma.

Thumma, Thumma, Thumma.

No, that would be one song.

Like one verse Bruna, one verse Thuma.

Yeah.

But there was the one.

Bruna Brian, O'Brien, no Bruna Bruno Brian.

No Brianna, Brunza Bruno.

You know who we need to tap for this?

First of all, like we actually, if we do it, like we need serious people.

And you know who?

So, you know, Jackie Schimmel's husband.

He's in the studio.

I could see that.

No, Brian, no Brian, no Bruno.

I think Jackie Schimmel's husband is like a big music producer.

He worked on like one of my favorite One Direction songs.

She told me once.

And whenever she does anything like musically, he does it for her in their office.

Like we need that.

We do.

Like my God, if Ben could just work in music.

We need to go to the studio, lay down some tracks and like upload that.

We also are in the studio.

Yeah, no, but this is not the right, as someone who's recorded two flop songs, you need like a real studio.

And if anyone out here is like friendly with, or you yourselves are like a music producer, be like, dude, I don't want like a producer.

I need everyone to do the whole thing, you know?

Lay the tracks.

We can write the lyrics and of course perform them.

But like, I think if we came out with like a children's EP, it would be so popular.

Agreed.

And now that we're saying this, like people are going to come out of the woodwork with more songs that we have.

Like we also have, I just took like for

DNA tests turns out.

I'm 100%.

Russian.

Even when I'm fleeing countries.

Yeah, I've got heart problems.

That's a puppy in me.

Bling bling, then I solve them.

That's a doctor in me.

Should have had a bad tigs, just a little.

We'll work on it.

Yeah, we'll, yeah.

They'll be like the rap.

This is kids bop.

What is the EP going to be called?

Toast tunes.

Oh my god, bitch.

I was literally going to say that.

It's just writing itself.

Okay, we need, we're always like saying things we're going to do and never do them.

Literally, kids bop.

It should be called Toast Bop.

And the thing is, is like, it's fun for all ages.

Moms and kids alike.

Kid tested, mother-approved.

I think people are going to love this.

Yeah, we just have to like do it.

Yeah.

Wow.

I love that for us.

Yeah, me too.

And we have a relationship with Spotify, so they have to put on the new releases page on New Music Friday.

Obviously.

We need Bryce and Starson on New Music Friday, and I won't settle for anything less.

For every Friday in perpetuity.

Yeah.

Because it's Strati.

Stratty.

Got to get down on Stratton.

Very good.

Okay, now without further ado, it is time for the fast-star stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Thank you so much.

Our first story, a little justice news, but it's lacking in justice as well.

Okay.

Ghalain Maxwell, the accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein, has been sentenced to 20 years in prison for sex trafficking.

Bye.

Peace out.

What's the injustice?

The injustice is that she's sentenced for sex trafficking, but who was she trafficking to?

Right.

How can you be like sentenced for a crime of like, you know, helping facilitate sex trafficking and rape and abuse but who were the accusers and the rapists yeah no i think there's something like that feels unfulfilling about this ghillene maxwell story like we've been so focused on it and now that we got the verdict it's like that's great not

one client she's the one person who went down like it's so bizarre but like how can you

Be like on a solo mission of sex trafficking like was she the one doing like trafficking them for herself?

Well, maybe she didn't sing for her supper and that's why she got a heavy sentence.

Like if she had given names, she probably could have have gotten like four or five years.

No, uh,

I don't know if it's that or it's just like the media covering up like these big wigs.

No, it would have worked.

It would have come out.

It would have come out.

Why?

Her trial was like...

No, if she had said...

It wasn't in the trial.

No, and then those people would be prosecuted.

We would know if she said any names.

And her sentence would be much less.

I don't think it was because she's a good friend.

I think she's...

I don't think she's a good friend.

I think probably like her family will be taken care of something, you know?

Yeah.

it's just it's like sometimes i hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but when it comes to ghelaine and jeffrey like there's no way you can't be a conspiracy theorist like it's not conspiracy this is straight facts you she did this whole sex trafficking ring who was on the plane who was at the island like those people are right need to go down like even the

what's his name prince andrews yeah like where's the justice that's so true no it feels incomplete this story and while we love queen ghelane feels like like theater you know it's like here performative.

But yeah, like this person, it's over, done with.

Clays is closed.

Justice has been served.

And it's like, but what about the whole ring?

Yeah.

This was a major operation.

That's a real thing.

And what about the fact that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself?

Like, what about all that?

I know.

And

I know we've all moved on, like, from that time period where literally the word out of everyone's mouth was Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

The name on everyone's mouth.

Right.

But we need to get back to that because like, literally, he didn't kill himself.

Question mark.

Yeah.

Question mark.

So every time like the story resurfaces, they could be telling me like Glene Maxwell will be paying for the rest of her life for what she did, but it's like, it's just not enough.

And I just want to say if Glene Maxwell turns up quote unquote dead in prison, meaning she like fled the country and is living the life of Riley in like Antarctica,

I will have questions.

Antarctica is beautiful this time of year.

And it's really the place where you go to live the life of Riley.

Well, it has to be one of those countries that doesn't have extradition, right?

Is that the word?

Yes.

Like where a criminal can live and they don't have to send them back to the States.

Yes, but that would mean that like we know that that's where they they are.

Yeah.

You know, I think if she fled, it wouldn't be like send her back.

If she did protect the most powerful people in the world, like in exchange, they could get her out of prison into a safe house.

Like she could live in a palace in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah, by the sea.

By the sea.

Yeah.

Sounds nice.

So they could rebuy the island for her and she can go live there.

It's on sale.

Literally.

So Ghulani, from the bottom of my toes to the top of my fucking scalp.

Fuck you.

Is that a TikTok sound?

Yeah, Tanamocho.

Gotta get Tana on the the podcast got to there's like a couple people who i just feel like if we say their names like we'll get them on i but like people i really do want to interview tana mocho being one of them yeah so many questions i've become such a big fan of hers over the years so funny and like i don't really watch her content or anything but like i do like her and i do think like as a big-time loser move i did like slide into her dms recently and just like respond to one of her stories like lol ha you know Maybe it made you lol ha ha.

It did.

That's why I'm a genuine person.

I sometimes do that to people because like you should know that I, that it was lol ha ha.

Yeah.

When someone like reached out to me and it was like lol, and it's like, you know, fellow influencer, I'm like, I made you laugh.

Yeah, no.

And then if, like, I message someone who I've never spoken to before and I see that they've messaged me previously, like, responding to a story or something, I'm like, oh my God, we are friends.

Right.

Does she follow you, Tan?

No.

Oh.

Yeah.

So we got to work on that.

That was sad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

I am.

Some very scary news.

Travis Barker was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance with Courtney by his side.

On Tuesday afternoon, Travis Barker was rushed to the hospital.

The drummer was photographed lying on a stretcher outside Cedar Sinai Medical Center in L.A., while the Kardashian star followed on foot.

The musician was seen being wheeled out of the ambulance while holding his right hand up, which showed his unmistakable skull tattoo.

Courtney, for her part, was seen only from the back.

She was in an all-black ensemble and had her hoodie up over her head.

The Reality Star security team followed closely behind in a black Range Rover, tailing the ambulance as they arrived at the hospital.

Both vehicles apparently entered through the wrong area and were redirected by hospital personnel to a different entrance.

Right after the story made headlines, Travis's 16-year-old daughter posted, please send your prayers.

And also in the midst of this medical emergency, Travis tweeted, God Save Me at 10.45 a.m.

It also is worth noting, it is the name of his song with Machine Gun California.

Yeah, and I thought it was before.

But the timing is eerie.

I thought it was before he was photographed.

It was at 10.45 a.m.

And I think, well, that's...

It was the afternoon he was rushed.

Okay, so maybe it's just just like weird.

Coincidence.

Yeah.

And then he was, I think, supposed to perform with MGK, and his son Landon stepped in.

Wow.

Which is cool.

Obviously, not under these circumstances.

And they haven't told us what's going on.

I just feel like if you go to the hospital in an ambulance, like there's something really bad.

Yeah.

Because a lot of people, like, if you go to the hospital, like someone can drive you.

And I think, obviously, not for the Kardashians, but most people don't go to the hospital in an ambulance because it's so expensive.

But like, if you're in an ambulance, that's like dire need of care immediately.

Yeah.

So I'm like really concerned.

Me too.

And obviously, like, they don't owe us an explanation.

Like medical privacy is a thing, but like I am beyond curious, like what's going on.

Of course.

I agree.

Curious, respect their privacy.

Yeah.

Hope he's okay.

Like hopefully it's just, you know, appendix.

Also like Alabama saying please send your prayers cry emoji is like really sad.

Scary.

Yeah.

I wonder what's going on.

You think it has anything to do with his arm?

If his arm was like up in the photographs, even though that could mean nothing.

I don't think so.

It looks like he, like, it looks like an okay arm.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know what, like,

maybe they make you keep your arms up.

Right, but they're like so healthy, you know, like the cleanses and they're vegan.

Right.

So I wonder.

Yeah.

Sending prayers, truly, that's so scary.

Yeah.

Courtney must be bugging.

I feel like she doesn't do well under like in a crisis.

You think?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I could see that.

So

you never know until you're tested.

Yeah, yeah.

That's true, actually.

Do you think you do well in a crisis?

I'm like full fucking panic.

The world is burning.

Yeah.

Shred the files.

Like

I am the worst in a panic situation.

If the, if the crisis is about me.

If it's about someone else.

I think I'm extremely rational, honestly.

I think I'm really good.

Because I don't care.

I'm really good in a crisis.

One, because that's just like my nature.

But two, I don't realize something's a big deal until way after it happens.

Yeah.

Whether it's good or bad, you know?

Yes, I agree with that.

So that way, so I see something, I'm like, okay.

And then it's like later, I'm like, girl.

Yeah, no, I'll see something and always think it's a bigger deal than it is.

Oh, yeah.

Like a drama queen.

Yeah, like, yeah, that's.

You know who the worst person in a crisis is?

Ben Suffer.

The worst person in a crisis.

Like, you think I'm bad?

He's so dramatic.

Like, let's go to the greatest lengths.

Like, the thing you would do is the last resort.

He's like, yeah, let's do it first.

He's just not good in a crisis.

That's so funny.

Yeah.

And he should be because he's the oldest kid in his family.

And like, you have to have like a sense of like calm.

And, you know, like Olivia's very...

Yeah, Olivia's a little drama.

yeah.

Olivia's not drama, but Olivia just like talks in hyperbole exclusively, yeah, yeah, and she'll admit that to you, yeah,

but I wouldn't say, like, no, and you, some Olivia is someone that you want to go to like when you have to clean up your mess, and like she'll help you, like, she'll get the shovel and she'll help you bury the body, and she'll never say a word about it.

No, but she will be very exaggerated.

Yeah, she was like, so we were in this forest, yeah, it was literally a thousand degrees.

We had to walk 200 meters.

Olivia loves to exaggerate with like numbers.

Yeah, 200 packs of gum.

That's what I was just going to say.

Can you remind me of that story?

That's, by the way, so in our family, Olivia probably hates it, but we're always saying like she's an exaggerator.

And it started with this one story.

No, it's just like this story was emblematic of how she exaggerates.

I don't remember the details, but loosely, I remember that, like, we were on vacation.

We were on vacation.

We were going to Walgreens.

We were old enough to like go to the pharmacy for ourselves.

And we bought like what we wanted.

Maybe you bought a pack of gum and I bought a pack of gum.

And somehow when we got home, like we were all fighting and she was like, well, you guys were the ones who needed to go and buy 200 packs of gum.

And she ratted us out.

Like, yeah.

She was like, they literally bought 200 packs of gum.

We're like, what?

And back, like, as the oldest, like, Olivia's word is gospel.

Right.

Like, we could fight and argue and have proof.

Look, there's just two packs.

Doesn't matter because Olivia is the oldest.

Even if we chewed 190 on the way home.

So it's like, Olivia's word is gospel.

And like, it was so frustrating as a kid because you can't argue because Olivia is the oldest.

When we went to the Walgreens, she was in charge.

Right.

So maybe we didn't get something that we needed to get because we spent the money on it.

Buying 200 packs of gum.

Like, oh my God, I totally forgot about that.

And she fucking ratted us out.

Like, we didn't even do anything.

We just wanted gum.

Yeah.

200 packs, though.

Yeah.

I can't.

That's so Olivia.

She's going to kill us.

Kill us.

Okay.

Our next story.

The ships are sinking, you guys.

Anna Kendrick and Bill Hayter have broken up.

We should add them to our list.

Maybe not Anna Kendrick, but Bill Hayter for sure.

Yeah, Bill Hayter for sure.

And Anna Kendrick, who did she used to date?

You know who she always reminds me of?

Who?

Rachel Bill.

Kat Dennings.

Oh, Kat Dennings used to date Josh Groban.

That's why you love Kat Dennings.

Add Josh Groban to the list.

Kat Dennings?

I can't think of anyone more eligible.

Kat Dennings unfollowed me on Instagram, even though we've like had DM'd a couple times, like exchanging like replies.

I thought it was incredibly hurtful.

Damn.

Let's see if she ever.

I mean, I unfollowed her.

Once I realized it, I unfollowed her back immediately.

What about Josh Groban and Chloe Kardashian?

I knew you were going to say that.

That to me, like, I think I could retire.

Yeah, she unfolded.

I could retire peacefully knowing that Chloe Kardashian was sleeping in the arms of Josh Groban.

Or Bill Hayter.

He's like a funny guy.

I think it's age-appropriate.

Yeah.

I could see him vibing with the Kardashian.

I could see now that Kim is with Pete, like the SL.

Yeah, like Chloe being open to someone of that nature.

Yeah.

And Bill coming across her desk.

Yeah.

Honestly, even though I'm not like an annekendrick girly, I did think this was like a nice couple because they were like really low-key and quiet and they've kind of been together for a while.

So those are the types of relationships you don't really expect to break up.

Yeah, these to me, like if you had told me they've been married for 20 years, I would have been like, yeah, I knew that.

Yeah.

But he also briefly dated Rachel Bill Smith.

And I miss them already.

That was like an iconic.

And you know, I just didn't see for Bill Hater like becoming like this bachelor man about town.

No, I could see it because in Train Reds, he was everything.

I think he owes all of his like A-list star relationships to Amy Schumer because we can, I think we can all agree that we were not looking at Bill Hayter like that until his role in Trainwreck.

135%.

We were just like plus 200 packs of rounds.

We were just like that funny guy from SNL.

He's in some of our favorite films and shows.

But we are now seeing him in a whole new light.

And it started the second I walked out of the theater watching Train Wreck.

Yeah.

And that's on telling the truth.

Mm-hmm.

I'm sad for him and Anna, though.

I'm not going to remember this because I barely remember that they were together.

And when we announced that they were together, I was like, wait, he broke up with Rachel Bilson.

And when they announced he was with Rachel Bilson, I was like, wait, he's dating Rachel Bilson.

Yeah, no, it's shocking.

It's really shocking to keep all of this apart.

But if he were to date Chloe, I would never forget it.

Never, ever forget.

Or Josh Corbin.

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Get your Ed and Lops.

Yeah, get your fucking ass up and cook.

Yeah, and you shouldn't have to tell people, this is a Camber Pro situation.

100%.

100%.

Stop letting your food stick on your pan.

You know, before I released my Grammy winning song, 100%, we had like a few different iterations of the chorus.

Yeah, what was one of them?

And sometimes when I say 100%, I say it like the old chorus.

It was supposed to be like, 100%.

Dun dun dun dun.

Tell the DJ that I'm here tonight.

Kind of sounds good.

Wait.

That's really good.

Yeah.

So when I say 100%,

that's from like my old one of the demos, you know, as they say in the industry.

It must be so hard for you artists to keep apart the final version.

No, there's sometimes like I think of my old demo for Toast, it stunk.

I'm so glad we didn't go with it.

It was like, how does that song start?

Honey Down Weanna Have a Good Time.

It's been a while I've been waiting.

And it was.

That's 100%.

Oh, fuck.

Wait.

How does the verse of Toast start?

Hunting down, we gonna have a good time.

That's a good thing.

A thousand hands up to this.

Can't let it fade.

So it was supposed to be like, can't let it fade.

We got a sparkle in our eyes.

Can't let it wade.

Disney songs.

I'm counting down until we start.

We're renegades.

We come to play.

Put that on Toast Choose.

Play hard.

Unreleased demos.

Yeah.

It sounds good when I sing it, but I have like videos from a studio and it was like, turn.

Damn.

But you won't know until you get in the studio.

You know, us musicians know that.

Obviously, that's why we have to get in in the studio.

If I were to put out an album on Spotify, I would just go to show you anyone can do anything.

Anything is possible if you just believe.

No, and you should work really hard and force people to listen to your voice.

No, of course.

Like, we would, once we got you in the studio, like, we would show you like how to sing the right pitch in the right key, and then like a little auto-tune.

Star.

Star.

I love that.

Okay, our next story.

Speaking of stars, Lizzo teaches James Cordon about time dance on Carpool Karaoke and shares how Beyonce inspired her career.

So last week, Claudia was saying that James Corden was teasing the biggest artist on the world, was going to be in karaoke.

Carpool Karaoke.

She's the biggest artist in music right now.

And I and she thought it was going to be Tyler Swift, and I said, no, who did I say it was going to be?

I feel like I guess like Doja Cat.

Oh, yeah.

And it's Lizzo.

And I like

to stand by what I said, which was like he was being extremely literal.

Yeah, in music right now.

So obviously I'm disappointed it wasn't Taylor, but I love to just see Lizzo doing her thing.

She got a flute and she was just like being flutey out.

Oh, that looks cute.

Yeah.

Her flute is like one of my flute.

Her fluting abilities are one of my favorite things about her.

Yeah, no, it's really cool.

And it definitely sets her apart.

And she's so good at it.

And, you know, I feel like she's just making like band geeks everywhere crowd.

Even though I'm not saying like if you're in a band, you're a geek.

It's just like a trope.

Leave me alone.

And I feel like James Gordon hasn't done karaoke, carpool karaoke in a while.

At first, it was like strictly legends.

And then he got like a little desperate and was like throwing like random people in there who like I didn't think had reached the mark yet.

And then he like stopped doing it.

yeah they needed a break yeah but Taylor's never done it Beyonce's never done it

Adele has done it Celine Deanna has done it

who else

like legends wise pink has done it has she

I think so she

has Miley yeah her whole family had a show on Apple TV yeah that doesn't count I'm talking about like the James Corden version she definitely did yeah pink did carpool karaoke has Kelly Clarkson for sure

I need to watch that if she did.

You know, the Super Bowl.

Kanye did airplane karaoke.

Oh, that was so good.

Madonna.

You know, the Super Bowl should go through the YouTube playlist of who's been on Carpool Karaoke to see who's big enough for the halftime show.

Kelly's been on Carpool Karaoke.

Okay, good.

It should have been Carpool Kelly Karaoke.

Ari has been on.

Ari, yes, Selina.

The Jonas Brothers with Demi.

And then they started doing, like, oh, you're not famous enough to be a legend.

Let's put two, like, Demi Lovato and the Jonas Brothers.

Yeah.

But, like, we need Taylor.

We need Beyonce.

Yeah.

Katy Perry?

I'm sure she has.

Yes.

And then we need to move on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's done it.

So he's like really hit all of that.

Maybe that's why he hasn't done it because like he's ran out of legends.

But I'm glad Lizzo did one.

It's like a badge of honor.

I feel like it officially means like you have staying power in the industry, you know?

And she looked great.

She sang great.

I feel like every time I learn more about Lizzo, like not from her music, but like on a conversational level, I like what I see.

Yeah.

She's like funny and like self-deprecating and like good sense of humor.

For sure.

Yeah, and her music is great.

So great.

Yeah.

Wait a minute.

I'm anita.

Sentimental.

Man or woman.

To pump me up.

Feeling fussy.

Walking in my Valencia.

Valencia is so funny.

You know, it's like a TikTok thing to put like ussy.

Like when you do something really good, people are like, wow, Zendaya put her whole Zendussie in this.

Oh.

In this.

Euphoria.

Like when somebody does a really good job, it's like they put their whole Jackie Ussy into, like your whole pussy into something.

Jackie Ussy.

I like that.

Jack Hussy.

I don't know what it would be.

No, I like Jackie Yussy.

Yeah.

And so I like that she, and she also loves TikTok, a fellow TikTok stand.

So she's constantly, you know, using TikTok language in everyday life.

Love it.

Which you love to see.

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Jackie put her whole whole Jackie Sea into that song.

And that's a magic number.

Fifth and final story.

Sorry for partying.

Airbnb makes its party ban permanent.

Airbnb announced a global temporary ban on parties and events nearly two years ago.

Now the home sharing company is putting the ban in place permanently.

Airbnb will continue to bar disruptive parties and events, including open invite gatherings.

Party houses, which people book for a large event for one night, will also stay banned.

Don't you feel like this should be up to the homeowner?

Yeah.

Because let's say, of course, like, you know, if you have a super nice house, you want families to come, you don't want people like trashing, and I get that, and parties mean mess.

But I think some people would be okay with like having their customers pay a premium to rent the house for one night, throw a party that includes like cleaning fees.

They pay a little bit more.

I don't know why,

like, Airbnb wants to speak on behalf of all of their

right.

And also maybe

they just like like the BNB format but like you should be able to like book an Airbnb for one night and like have your wedding there you know yeah that's a whole other business model for them there should be like Airbnb biz like corporate retreats yeah yeah that's like a it's like so weird it's kind of like on cameo you can book a cameo as a business but everyone has a personal rate and a business rate because you'd obviously pay more to be like I love LaCroix it's delicious and bubbly interesting yeah so like if if somebody wants to do it as like an official venue with like a party as like a venue for a party venue for a corporate retreat venue for family reunion like no actually family reunion could go in the personal one, but there should be like like the the homeowner should have the option to make more money if they want to also what constitutes a party you know right is a dinner party like oh i'm renting an airbnb um three couples are coming over for dinner you know yeah how many people is a party what level of noise is a party i think more than 20 people is a party what if you had like 25 people and it's a silent disco

That sounds so fun.

What if you have 30 people?

It's a silent disco of sober people.

No, that's definitely interesting.

I just feel like it should be up to the, like, so many people make their living exclusively on Airbnb, and I just don't think Airbnb should be restricting how homeowners want to use their house.

Like, if they're, if the owner's up to it,

like, you have to take, okay, let's say the house is, let's say a house is $500 a night, but if you want to throw a party, it's $1,500 and you owe me a $3,000 deposit just in case you break stuff

and a cleaning fee.

Like, what homeowner wouldn't want that?

Like, the option.

The option.

But wouldn't most people just like pretend to try and get away with having a party and paying lesser rate?

Like, yes, but that's fucked up.

Like, that's not cool.

No.

No.

Airbnb is a crazy concept.

And they're always like making crazy rules.

You know, like, they're very

heavy-handed in their management.

Yeah.

But just this idea that like people are

renting out their homes.

But the thing is, with Airbnb, it's usually not people's primary homes.

No, but a lot of people like sometimes, like, it's both.

Yeah, but I think like the way that a lot of people turn it into like a full-fledged business is by renting out properties that they don't like.

Yeah, and have no intention of ever living in.

Right.

Like when you go to Nashville, you really see like how Airbnb has taken over so much of like the real estate economy.

Every fucking house, townhouse, condo, is like a full flip.

No one lives there permanently, and they make huge income every year just by renting it out to like bachelorette parties.

It's very cool.

Visitors.

And it's changed.

Like now, there's also like Airbnb for cars, you know?

Is there?

It's called Turo.

Oh, but it's not Airbnb.

No, no, no, no.

But it's like, you know, they need a car for three days.

It's like Uber for blank.

Like, it became its own industry.

Yeah.

I think it's great.

I just think like,

and maybe they're doing this to protect the homeowners, but I just think like give people the option.

Yeah.

And they really should get into like venues.

Don't be a narc.

They should get into like

business.

Like there should be two.

Yes, but sometimes it's like you like I learned on Shark Tank, like you can't do everything and you need to focus on your business model and like also being, you know, a wedding planning destination, it's too much.

They also recently went public.

So like they're obviously doing something right.

Yeah.

So like who the fuck am I to say with my private company, you know?

Very private.

We're so private.

So private.

Should we dive into deer toasters?

That was a fast five.

Let's, please.

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And if you want to submit, it's deartoasters at gmail.com.

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Do not worry about that.

If you want to submit, please do.

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So if you've submitted and we haven't read it yet, it might be because yours is too long or it just sucks.

But just deartoasters at gmail.com.

We need some fresh submissions.

Okay, I need to put my thinking cap on for this first one.

Here's a little bit.

Here's a little bit of background.

My friend's dad walked out on her mom six years ago.

Since then, my friend's mom has dated around and she recently fell in love again and married her second husband in June 2021 after they'd been dating for about a year and a half.

I've spent time with my friend, her mom, and her new husband, gone out to dinner, hung out at their house.

This past weekend, I was back in my hometown for the weekend.

And I, oh, sorry, this was also written by a man, a gay man, I just think, because we're used to straight women.

So this past weekend, I was back in my hometown, and I opened up my grinder, as I usually do.

An older man messaged me.

My grinder profile does not show my face, so people don't know who exactly they're talking to, just a 26-year-old with nice abs, lol

so i'm scrolling and an anonymous older man messages me and says are you into older question mark want to play today question mark his profile only showed his smile but it looked vaguely familiar and i had a hunch of who it may be so even though i had no interest in meeting up with him i replied yeah do you have a face pic sure enough it's him my friend's new stepdad my friend is out of the country at a wedding with her mom right now so it makes complete sense that this would be an opportune time for him to cheat now i'm struggling to decide if I should tell my friend or her mom.

I don't want my friend to have to bear that burden after recently having her parents getting divorced, And I also don't want to spoil my friend's mom's happiness.

After all, they could have some sort of open arrangement that is frankly none of my business.

What should I do, if anything at all?

I promise to provide updates if there are any.

So I think

there's a few.

The thing is, like,

honestly, I'm torn.

I do think, like, it's very possible that they have an open like thing, but it's also very possible that like her husband's gay and cheating on her.

Like, and that's a real reality.

And I do think, like, and I agree with you, like, like telling your friend is like just passing the burden onto her.

Yeah.

Honestly, like, if you're like a,

I don't know, gay men have a way of like telling you straight in a way that's like non-offensive.

And I could see a way like of you, if you're close with her mom, just like going straight to her and being like, listen, I just want you to know no judgment.

This is what I found.

We never have to talk about it ever again.

But I couldn't like really sleep at night if I didn't just show this to you.

And then we're done.

We'll never talk about it.

I swear to God, nothing will change.

Yeah.

I think that's a good way.

I don't think you should tell your friend.

I guess that's true.

I think that's a good idea.

Right?

And I do feel like, you know,

straight women really feel like they can trust gay men.

There's like this unspoken bond and allyship.

So I do feel like if you went up to her and they had some sort of arrangement and you were like, I don't know what this is.

I promise I'll never bring it up again.

She would trust you to like not tell her daughter and like really keep it between and not make things weird.

Yeah.

I like that better than telling the daughter and making it her problem because then also like the daughter will eventually tell her mom and like her mom will, whatever her mom chooses to do, like if she decides to stay with him or maybe this was something that she knew about, like she'll always know that her daughter knows and like.

Yeah, and telling the daughter doesn't fix anything.

It just adds a another person to the mix.

And then if the daughter then tells her mom, her mom will feel embarrassed that like her daughter's friend has known for a few months.

But like if this were you,

like in practice,

in theory, in practice, I would not do a thing.

You know?

Yeah, let me think of like a friend of mine whose parents I know.

I would make myself forget it.

You would go to a friend's parent and tell them that they're part.

Like, no, I would just.

It sounds like they're close.

I would just

pretend like I never saw it.

I know, but it's so big.

In practice.

But in theory, I like what you're saying.

It's so big.

Like,

not only is he cheating, but he might be gay.

Like,

it's such a big secret to keep.

It's really tough.

It's a horrible situation to be in.

Yeah.

I think if you think the right thing is to not do anything, then don't do anything.

But if you do feel like you want to do something, I'm not saying it's the right thing to not do anything.

I'm not saying you.

I'm saying to the person who wrote in.

Yeah, no, but I'm not saying I would do nothing because it's the right thing to do, because I'm like,

like, if you can live with that, like, I would be like shaking in my boots, like, trying to tell her.

You know, this might be a situation where an anonymous letter comes into play.

You know, the first night at bed, Ron put his head between a cocktail waitress's breasts.

Right.

Even though that makes the whole situation more creepy and weird.

Right, because then it's also she has to figure out her relationship, but but then also who's

to me.

A stranger knows.

Yeah, no, that's scary.

That's scarier.

Either do nothing or go direct to the mom.

Yeah.

Depending on your personality, like if you have that sort of a relationship, if you, you know, are very courageous.

Yeah.

But that's the thing with Grindr culture.

I think,

you know, most, I would say like nine out of 10 people on Grindr don't have their faces in it because it's really just like an app for physical connection.

And sometimes you will run into someone you know.

And like I have gay friends who've told me about it.

And like, it's literally the worst thing in the world.

That's true.

Especially if you're newly out.

A lot of people use the app to experiment.

And since you don't have to show your face, it's like you're not really, you know, there's no risk.

But then if you like message someone and it's always people in your area and then you end up messaging someone who you know or like like maybe like your cousin, like it can it can get really murky because people don't say their names or their faces.

They just have usernames and like usually the chin down and it's usually like a sexy abs pic.

So this is the dark side of Grinder that they don't tell you about.

Yeah.

So we've given you two options.

You know yourself and you know this woman and do what you think is best.

But I'm sorry that this is, that this burden has fallen into your lap.

Yeah, but I do feel like you're equipped to handle it.

Like I really do.

I think so too.

I don't know why.

Like.

You're just speaking like very matter-of-factly.

No, and because

not like emotion, like just what do I do?

I think if it was like one of the girls' girlfriends, it would be a totally different situation.

But the fact that he's like a gay guy just makes me think like the mom will be more open to what he's saying.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

I don't know why.

I just feel like that's the case.

Yeah.

All right, next up.

Hey, Jackson Claude, iconic duo.

Hey, I added the iconic duo.

It wasn't written.

I was going to be like, she sounds wonderful.

How you doing?

I'm an English toaster in desperate need of advice.

Chris Camper?

A few weeks ago?

A few weeks ago, my boyfriend went on vacation with his friends to Portugal.

All the boys that went have girlfriends.

We're a big group of friends.

Today, my boyfriend let it slip one night that they went to a strip club and one of the boys, Maverick, got a hand job and a shower from a stripper.

First of all, ew.

Second of all, what do I do with this information?

Do I tell Maverick's girlfriend?

My boyfriend has sworn me to secrecy, but I just don't know whether I have a duty to tell her.

Although I'm also aware that if I do tell her, then it would literally ruin her life.

Any advice you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Oh my God, you guys have really had me stumped today.

Yeah, that's a tough thing.

You know, I did go through something similar, but it was like with a couple that like I don't know.

I went through something similar to with a couple that I like

with a friend that had no personal stake in the matter.

Yeah, I was talking to a friend of mine who went on a bachelor party and he was telling me like one of the guys there who was engaged like did something bad, but I'm like, I don't know these people.

So like I just have this information, but I'll never like do anything about it because I don't even know these people.

Literally sane.

So, but imagine if you were really close to the situation and the couple.

If I was really

your boyfriend put you in a horrible position.

Yeah.

And I love him for being honest with you.

Sounds like you guys have a great relationship.

No, I don't like that he told you because why do you need to know?

And it makes me feel like not to like, you know, cast doubt, but it just like makes me feel like he told you this thing about him, about this other guy, because like to get your focus on that.

And like maybe he did something.

Okay, let's not make it more.

This is what I'm feeling like.

Because like, why throw Fred under the bus?

Maverick, sorry.

Yeah.

No, I really don't know what to do here.

Like, I would need to know more about your friendship with this girl.

Yeah.

But you know what?

And like, there's a lot of people.

Sounds like a time for an anonymous letter.

Also, there are showers at the strip club that you can.

That's what I'm confused about for sure.

Unless, like, they took a stripper back.

That's that's different than like getting handsy at the strip club.

Yeah, but still, like, getting handsy at the strip club is also different than a fucking hand job.

Like, everyone gets handsy at a strip club, right?

Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

Actually, that's not what you're supposed to do, but like, you always cross a line when you go to a strip club.

No, but like, to adjust.

Taking strip club tings out of the strip club is another line.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But even like physical skin-to-skin contact with an orifice is also crossing a line.

Yeah, and it's like you can't pay to get a hand job at a strip club, right?

I mean, it depends on the type of strip club, but like, I think you probably can.

But isn't that illegal?

Well, first of all, they were in Portugal, so I don't know the laws there.

I don't know the laws.

But like, yeah, no, a lot of strip clubs, like, you know, in the back, have, you know, blurred lines.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, if you want to make an extra chip, so if it was, I would say, if it was in the back, maybe

don't tell her.

But if they left together and took a shower and like,

that's a little more serious, don't you think?

Like, yeah, but I still think the hand job in the back is bad.

But couldn't you chalk it up to like bachelor party tings, not your business?

I feel like strip clubs on the side.

I'm not even in a bachelor party.

Second of all, bachelor party gone wild is like

getting a lap dance, like maybe putting your hands like.

on her boob for a second.

Let me ask you a question.

If Ben got, if you found out that he got a hand job at a strip club, I would burn the place down.

Like, ejaculating.

I'm like, bitch, literally, I could do that, you could do that.

Why do you have to have some random girl do it?

Yeah, in the shower.

That's unacceptable.

Would it make it worse if they went back to the hotel and it happened?

Of course.

That's what I'm saying.

Because you have all this time, like on the cab ride, up the elevator.

Like, I think there's a difference between getting carried away at the strip club versus taking it home with you.

But I don't think getting a hand job is considered getting carried away.

I think it's further than that.

I think it's really carried away.

No, I think it's cheating.

so would you want to know yeah but the thing about me is like i don't if this if i was this girl in the situation like i don't feel bad about like doing the right thing and pissing off like a guy like you literally

it's not about pissing off that guy it's about disrupting the it's about disrupting her equilibrium and getting your boyfriend in trouble yeah but it's like

I don't know, but maybe this is just the tip of the iceberg, you know?

Yeah, if you're so easily carried away on a boys trip, it's like not going to be hard for you to cheat again, or that doesn't mean you haven't done it before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think you should tell her, but like before you do, like, you have to get her solemn sweartitude that you won't tell him that you heard from this girl, because then that gets her boyfriend in trouble.

And then her boyfriend looks like a loser, like, you're not, like, gonna be like broke code.

Like, so this is a mess.

If there's a way you can guarantee the girl won't rat you out, I do think you should tell her.

Okay.

Or an anonymous note.

No, because then she also has to worry about who knows.

This is a um,

this is a case for form spring.

Remember that anonymous form like you used to have in high school?

And it was like, ask me anything.

People would be like, you're fat.

And I'm like, why the fuck did I put this up?

Yeah.

Form spring, tell her, be like, we should get back into form spring, girly.

And then write, be like the first one.

Like,

when your boyfriend went to Portugal, he got a handjob from a stripper in the back of a shower.

Yeah.

Unclear where the shower was.

Sometimes form spring is the only answer.

And I mean that.

I'm sorry, we couldn't be more helpful.

I thought I was helpful.

I think you should tell her.

But like, make sure you don't get your boyfriend in trouble because then he's like going to to hate you and like his friends will think he's a loser.

Next up, and the final one.

But maybe the friends are a losery group of friends that they need to disband because they're going to Portugal and getting hand jobs.

Right.

And like, this is the sign that like maybe you

are growing apart.

And they're have girlfriends yet.

They're not doing a couple's trip, but it was also no one's bachelor party.

Right.

Right.

Like if you're going to a strip club on a bachelor party, that's more understandable.

But like just a trip with your friends to go to a strip club.

No, I'm sorry.

Strip clubs for people in relationships are extenuating circumstances like a bachelor party.

All right, final one.

Hey, girlies, I've been listening for about a year now, and I love your podcast.

And I need some advice about my current boyfriend.

We've been doing long distance for three years.

I noticed he was following some random girls on Instagram.

I asked him if he was friends with these girls, and he said, No, he was not.

So, of course, I said, So, why are you adding them on Instagram?

He then proceeded to say I was controlling since I was checking his Instagram followers.

I just think, in a committed relationship, you shouldn't feel the need to look at and follow random girls that you don't know.

Do you guys think I'm justified, or am I actually crazy?

Lol, thank you.

Are they famous girls?

Or it sounds like

random girls, like with 300 followers.

And he's one of them.

And I like how you write, do you girls think I'm justified or am I actually crazy?

Because you are fully meeting gaslight.

Like and he's making you think this is like a crazy thing for you to think when it's completely rational.

Yeah, no, I think following like Instagram thoughts is just like fine and something we all have to accept, unfortunately.

Yeah.

But following girls, the difference is like the Instagram

model or you know bikini model whatever is never gonna see your husband notice him whatever but like when a girl who's not, who doesn't have a big following, like sees this guy, it's like he has visibility with her.

And I think that is weird.

It's very weird.

And honestly, what I find even weirder than the fact that he follows these girls was his reaction to your question.

Like, it's full gaslighting.

You're controlling.

Like, this guy sounds like a walking fucking red flag.

Like, I really think you ought to go, honestly.

Yeah, I think that's really weird.

I've never had to think about like following random.

Lay people.

Yeah, but it's weird like he could DM her and like start a relationship and he's making you feel like you're being unreasonable and crazy and controlling and you're literally not.

And that's just like the beginning of the mind games, honestly.

I don't see this ending well.

I think you should get out.

I know that's like not the answer you were looking for.

Somebody's giving extreme takes and I'm feeling very conflicted today.

Sometimes like people show you who they are and like you have to believe in.

Like that's a crazy fucking response.

And like even the way she was writing to us, like she thinks she might be acting crazy.

You're not.

He's literally gaslighting you.

Yeah.

Goodbye.

Goodbye.

Deuces.

Thank you for writing in though.

Sorry about the three years.

And thank you to everyone who wrote in.

Again, that's deartoasters at gmail.com every Wednesday.

So if you didn't get read this week, there's always next week.

And it's a long distance relationship.

So if these are like local girls that he's following who he has the ability to get in touch with, like, it's nefarious.

Yeah, this is not it at all.

But that was it because that was our show, but it's not over yet because if you're listening as a podcast, Jill Zaron interview coming up right now.

And if you're watching on YouTube, head over to the previous video on our channel.

The Jill interview lives there rent-free.

So thank you so much.

Oh, tomorrow's episode will be podcast only.

We're not going to be in the studio.

We're We're going to be recording from the Hamptons.

So, we'll get like a fresh, bucolic energy.

Yeah, we'll just be like out East girlies.

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Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

We are so excited because Jackie and I run in a fabulous circle of people, and we are honored and humbled to be joined with the OG fabulous woman, Jill Zarin.

Welcome to the toad.

Thank you for having me.

We have an audience.

You've brought me everyone in their mother's on Toronto.

Thank you so much for being here.

Well, thank you for having me.

So, the girl with no job has a really good job.

I never heard that before.

Work class jobs.

Oh, you've heard that every single time.

Every day of my life.

Every day.

Yeah, no.

We love you.

Like, we think you, I mean, I re-watched Railhouses of New York during the pandemic, and I always knew I was a jail girly.

Like I was team jail till I died, all that.

But re-watching it, I was watching it in high school.

What the fuck did I know?

Rewatching it over the pandemic, like I had such a new respect for you.

I loved you on the show and now you're here.

Obviously, you're promoting Real House Wives Ultimate Girls Trip.

And I'm so happy that you're back on TV because you are really and truly made for it.

Well, I'm really here promoting Jill and Allen.

Ultimate Girls Trip is just a vehicle, as we've seen on the show, to promote my shit.

Yep.

And that's all good.

You, there's like a trope that you are always like hawking something new, right?

Oh, well, if you've seen, if you, I don't want to have a spoiler alert, but if you've watched episodes one, two, and actually two and three,

you know, the girls learn right away that I have a lot of stuff going on.

I've got a lot of products I'm selling and I give a lot of stuff to the girls.

And I, I don't, you know what?

It's so part of my DNA that.

I was wearing a shirt that I never made.

It was just a sample.

And I'm like, oh, it was, it was, um, it was a tennis sweatshirt.

And it said, I think it's a Camp Zarin Hamptons or something.

It's a Hampton shirt.

And I said, oh, you know what?

This is mine because I was wearing it.

And then they did on the TV, you know, cha-cha-cha-ching.

And then they made a logo, Jay-Z-TV, like QVC, Jay-Z TV, which I actually now made a t-shirt on my website, jillzarin.com in my merch.

Yes.

And of course, I brought all my swag to give you as gifts.

Oh, we're so excited.

We love it.

Don't you love swag?

We also like have so much shop Jill and Alley stuff.

Like I have everything, the phone charms, the jewelry, things like that.

And we'll take more, but your stuff is really premium.

Yeah.

Do you have anything?

Where's my Diet Coke?

I have the sweatshirt that says, Where's my Diet Coke?

She wears it all the time.

If you drink it, we'll give you one of these.

Yes!

You know, I'm always with my Diet Coke.

Is there Diet Coke in there?

What do you think?

Yes.

I'll have to drink her.

What are your thoughts on Diet Pepsi?

Nope.

Really?

Nope.

Not unless they pay me a lot of money.

I actually love Diet Pepsi, I think, more than Diet Coke.

Do you really?

I know.

It's like a weird thing I recently discovered about myself.

And I've had fights with people and restaurants' owners about it, where they tried to slide it in and tell me it's Diet Coke, and I know it's not, and we have to fight about it.

Zach on Main Street in the Hamptons, you know, he's got a new show serving.

Yes.

He and I got into a big time a couple years ago and I won.

He actually called me up one day and said it wasn't a Pepsi Diet Coke thing.

It was a Coke Diet Coke thing.

They served me

Diet Coke, but it was Coke and I knew it was Coke.

I'm like, this is not diet.

Don't even try.

And I'm like, take me downstairs.

He takes me downstairs.

He shows me all the boxes that it's because I first I said it's fake Coke.

Or it's Coke Coke.

It's zero.

Whatever.

He shows me the box.

It's actually, it's a brown box and it has the label on it.

I mean, you'd have to work really hard to fake that stuff.

So I go downstairs, everything is right, but I said to him, listen, they must have switched it.

There's a switch in the lines.

He's like, Jill, they just put it in last week.

I said, I'm telling you, do what you want.

I'm telling you.

A month later, he calls me up.

He goes, I have to tell you.

The guy came in to service to fill us up.

You're right.

There was a mistake.

They switched it.

No, a true Diet Coke.

kind of sore nose when it's not Diet Coke.

Don't even try.

And I could tell fountain from can.

Yeah, that's what I was just saying.

Can from bottle.

I mean, I I go deep.

What is your preferred method of Diet Coke?

Is it fountain?

Is it bottle?

Is it can?

Is it glass bottle?

No bottle, plastic bottle, the big ones, is the best because

you lose the least amount of fuzz in it because there's only this much air at the top.

It's like champagne kind of thing.

I'm a real connoisseur.

But it's really about the ice, people.

Agreed, what's your favorite ice?

You know, I like the cube.

I do, but I have two ice makers, one in each house.

Like I have one that's cube and one that's small.

I like them both.

I like the little nuggets.

The nugget.

Yeah, the nugget maker is actually the more expensive ice makers.

Yes, I know.

We're waiting for Prime Day to get one.

You see?

What was the ice situation at Dorinda's house?

There was no ice situation.

There was a lot of no situation.

Well, we were just talking about that without

a food.

Right.

Like, so, you know, Ultimate Girls trip, first time they went to Turks and Caicos, gorgeous villa.

I hear the next one is somewhere really fancy, like Bali or something.

Yes, it is.

Not Bali, but yes, it is.

You went to someone's house in the Berkshires, and it's a gorgeous, gorgeous home.

Gorgeous, gorgeous.

But did you feel like a little like

slighted?

Did you watch the episode?

I said I did.

I think they used, actually, you know, we all get interviewed, we all get asked a lot of the same questions, and of course, they had to use mine.

So, Dorinda probably hates me.

Right.

No, I don't think she hates me.

But, yeah, I said, and I'm sure she, by the way, Dorinda would say the same thing: like, why my house?

Why couldn't I go to Turks and Cape?

Why'd I have to work so hard?

She did work hard.

She worked.

Let me, okay.

Tonight's episode, tomorrow night's episode is

according to the executive producer of All Housewife Shows in All Cities, told

one of the producers on our particular, in our company who makes it, that it's the best episode she's ever seen of all housewife shows.

What?

Which I think is overstated, to be honest.

I don't think that.

I don't know that because I haven't seen every episode of every show.

And I was in it.

But it's a lot of me.

It's definitely circles around my storyline with Dorinda of how I met her and kind of like the evolution.

And it's, Allie, what did you think?

Allie saw it.

It's kind of must-watch.

Yeah, no, I thought it was great.

Right.

Allie thinks it's great.

Deeper look into you.

To you and Dorinda.

All of us, too.

Did you have anything to do with Dorinda getting on the show originally?

Like, no, no.

No, I definitely brought her to the event with the mindset that I would love her to be on the show, but nothing ever happened from that.

And then years later, Ramona actually brought her on.

Got it.

Yeah.

What does it feel like to do it again?

Like, there's been such a long time since you were on.

It sounds like I never left.

Really?

Well, you know, I'm still friends with the girls.

And I never, you know, in spite of what you hear from people, and a lot of it's like, you know, haters, rumors, whatever, you know, I never self-produced myself.

I mean, sure, I would come up with ideas for scenes and things like that.

You have to, otherwise you don't have a show.

But I kind of just never see the cameras.

I just let it rip

one way or the other.

I think I'm actually probably, if anything, more edited now than I was back then.

Why do you think that I'm more?

Well, because I don't want to hurt people's feelings.

I think I'm a little bit more.

It's a different time, too.

It's just a different time.

No, but not even that.

I probably would say something that's inappropriate if I thought it was inappropriate.

It's more that I'm sensitive to other people's feelings.

Yeah.

You know, a little bit more.

So I don't think I'm as hardcore.

And that's what you're going to see on the episode

tomorrow night.

Tomorrow night.

When you were constantly being brought up on the New York franchise long after you were gone,

did that bother you in the sense that you couldn't respond or like defend yourself or just give your input?

Well, if it was something that I would want to, yes.

But most of the time I was flattered.

Yeah.

You know, that they didn't forget me.

I mean, a lot of housewives have come and gone, but

I feel like I never, I think people who don't watch the show on a regular basis still think I'm on

Yeah, I mean if they don't watch on a regular basis, right?

So you know, I kind of kept myself relevant.

Definitely.

I really wanted like I don't think you ever spoke about it on social media, but there was a huge storyline that Bethany used Bobby's funeral for a photo op and they really kind of went after her.

And I would be beyond curious to hear what your thoughts on that were.

You know, I don't want to go there, to be honest.

It's, it's, it's, it's done.

Yeah.

Um, I don't want to rehash it again.

I can just say that

I don't blame Bethany, really.

I mean, I think it was nice that she came.

I was happy to see her.

I was definitely caught off guard with the filming.

What I would like to say, that's important, is because people don't know this, I was not paid

to be on that episode.

I was never offered to be on the episode.

I was never given a release to be on the episode.

I was never told I would be on television that season.

It was a big surprise to me when I was on the commercial every day.

Wow.

Outside the funeral home with Bethany talking I had no idea but I'm happy that Bobby was honored yeah he was definitely a big part of the show huge I think part of it was maybe a misunderstanding but once there was a misunderstanding they still didn't like make a donation make it right and make it right with me or with the family or whatever but you know what I'm back on television I'm in a great place with Bravo I don't hold any grudges good I think I've evolved to that place where I just like keep moving keep it going forward that's really mature like it is

have said that.

And I'm not even saying it like I'm saying it just to say it.

I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it.

You know, I couldn't say it if you didn't mean it.

No, just wait.

You know, I'm lying.

You're not a very good liar.

Yeah.

I'm not a good liar.

I can't keep, you know what it is?

I can't lie because I don't remember.

That's me.

Like, literally.

Yeah.

And people think I'm lying.

I'm like, I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

It's your truth.

It's my truth.

Like, what are you talking about?

And people rest around it.

Every day, like, when I go back on the show, I'm like, every single day, and no one believes me.

First of all, I hate the word Thursday.

I've just saw I'm hungry.

I'm not thirsty, and I'm hungry.

So everyone has to stop telling me I'm thirsty because I'm starving.

Do people call you thirsty frequently?

Some people do.

They like to just, Dorinda liked to poke me with that word.

Like, you're thirsty to be back on the show.

Yeah, and it really bothers me.

And I don't know why it really bothers me.

It hits a nerve.

I guess because it's not true.

Right.

And you're very fulfilling.

I have a really great life.

And just because, and I say, you know, you can't,

you know, don't, you're projecting yourself on me.

You know, like thou doth protest too much, that kind kind of thing.

Like, stop calling me thirsty.

You're thirsty.

You know what I mean?

Like, I'm good.

And, you know, people ask me if I want to go back on the show.

When I give an answer, it's always the answer I feel today.

Sometimes I say, be great.

Sometimes I say, I can never go back.

Sometimes I say, it really depends.

It depends on who's on.

It depends on when it is.

It depends on how much money they're willing to pay.

You know, I never made a lot of money on the show.

This will be the time to make money.

And if it's not, why do it?

I saw a clip of you on a podcast where you shared, like, back then you were making, what, $7,000?

I made $7,000 to $7,500 the first season, then $5,000 for the reunion.

That's insane.

And then, like, the second season, it was, you know, more, but not much more.

I really didn't start to make some money until the fourth season.

Then I was, you know, gone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, speaking of the Roni Legacy that's coming out, have you spoken to anyone about doing that?

Do you know who's going to be participating?

I have.

I know as much as you do.

What do you think about the show?

You probably mean more.

What do you think about doing the two shows, like as a concept solution to what happened?

Well, I think they're playing it safe.

I think they're making a backup plan yeah yeah rather than be off the air four years then start with it or two years and then start with a new crew by the time it gets filmed and out now you've lost another year from when you saw the ogs and if it fails you have to wait another year to recast and do it again i think that they don't want to lose the audience completely and never get them back so i think that they're kind of hedging their bet however I don't know if that's a done deal.

It's not done for me.

So if they, you know, it's not done for me.

It's not done for Bethany for sure.

Alex and simon are living their life in australia can we talk about that because when i was re-watching um the early seasons of housewives during the pandemic i remember in high school like thinking oh my god alex and simon are like not okay they're insane and then seeing it again as an adult like i very much had the same sentiment um but i really actually do feel like they're really nice people and that's what i gather like even though they're On the show, they were like a little off.

I gather that they're nice people.

And now they have this like totally different life in Australia.

She's like a psychologist.

She became, she got her MD, not MD, she got a PhD in psychology and he became a lawyer.

It's a different

education.

It doesn't, it's not the traditional United States, but it's definitely still a lawyer.

And the kids have grown up and they're tall and like amazing.

And,

you know, it was such a different time then.

I was shocked that they fired them.

I think it was a huge mistake.

Me too.

I think they ruined the show at the time.

I did.

I thought it then, I still think now that it never recovered, never recovered its glory.

Yeah, because why do you want to go back and watch it?

Because you only have four years of us together, really, three with Bethany, and then she left.

But I thought it was great when she left.

Not great when she left, but meaning that the show was still great without her.

And then they just destroyed it for no reason.

For no reason.

The ratings were great.

They were making tons of money.

And I never, I still don't have a straight answer why, but I was with Kristen Tateman last night for dinner, and she was on it.

She was one of the people who came on after I left.

And she said that

they actually took, I don't remember this, she says they took like a year off at some point after she was on or before she was on because the show had done so badly when it came back with all these new people that it never really recovered.

And what are Alex and Simon's feelings about their time on the show?

Did they love it?

Did they hate it?

Did they regret it?

I think they regret it.

Yeah.

I think they regret they had to move to, they had to leave the country.

Right.

But I think their life is great now.

Me too.

I think that's the only thing that's great.

But I don't think that the circumstances that they had to leave were great at all.

Yeah.

He couldn't get a job here.

Wow.

Yeah, it was really hard.

But I have to say, you know, Simon was like a monster to me.

For no reason.

Honest to God, Allie was there.

No reason.

No reason.

I didn't do it.

It was,

you know what?

It just infiltrated all our lives and we just all became full of ourselves and didn't have a handle being famous.

And nobody was telling us what to do.

Nobody had, you know, it was just a, there was no other celebrities to talk to that did what we did.

There was no other housewives or husbands to talk to.

We were the first.

Yeah.

And we paid a big price for that in a lot of ways.

But there's some great things that come with being the OG.

Of course.

And it's before everything is like formulaic, where it is now.

It's like Instagram.

Yeah.

Right.

We had to do blogs to talk to people.

We had to do vlogs to hear from them.

Right.

You know?

Yeah.

It was crazy.

Personally, I think why I've always felt connected to you is because New York is such a Jewish city, and there aren't that many Jewish housewives of New York.

If I don't think you're in the middle of the day, you and Heather, right?

Is Heather Jewish or half Jewish?

Heather is Jewish, but I don't think

I don't think Bethany's Jewish.

Your mic is fine.

Yeah.

It's fine.

Okay.

And when you were introduced on Ultimate Girls trip, they're like, Jill's not here.

She's doing a Jewish holiday, which just like made me so happy.

And I said, I'm a Jew.

Yeah, like it's.

And I'm proud to be a Jew.

We love that.

We love that.

And there's really not a lot of Jewish.

Yeah, claps for Jews.

Good for the Jews.

Good for the Jews.

Oh, I don't know.

Go ahead.

But like, there's really not a lot of New York Jews or like Jewish representation on the real house size of New York, which I find to be so bizarre because it's such a Jewish city.

And they don't care, right?

No, they don't.

It's so weird to me.

It is what it is.

Well, now Leah's a Jew, too.

Well, Leah, yeah, Leah just converted.

Do you know Leah?

I met her like once or twice.

She's nice.

I think she might stay on the show.

I think she's going to end up on the

new.

I do.

I think they're going to hold on to one person.

I think that would work.

I do.

If she brings on a cool crowd.

Even though she was here saying she wanted to go to legacy, like with her friends.

Oh.

I don't know if all her friends are going to legacy.

I mean, and the other thing about legacy, it's like, what is a legacy?

Is legacy only the original four years where the four of us were together, meaning Kelly and Sonia and whatever?

Or is legacy anybody who's been on more than two years?

Is legacy, I don't know.

You know, that's a good question.

I do think Sonia would qualify as a legacy.

I do too.

And I think Kelly does too.

Yeah.

I forgot about Kelly.

Oh, how could you forget about Kelly?

Oh, are you kidding me?

We've got to erase this and do that again.

Like, who is she talking about?

Of course, I follow Kelly Benson on TikTok.

I was with her this weekend.

That's so nice.

I'm still friends with a lot.

Luann, right?

Oh, my God.

Yes, Kelly, Luanne, Sonia.

Ramona lives in my building.

I live in her old apartment.

What?

Yes, I found out.

She came over last week and she told me that she used to live in that apartment.

Wow.

Before she married Mario, I think they were living together before they got married.

Oh.

Yeah.

Isn't that crazy?

It is crazy.

Yeah, it is.

I mean, so it's just crazy.

And, you know, we're in a good place and we're not in a great place.

And we're in a good place.

It's just nothing changes.

That's what's so great.

Yeah.

Not much has changed in the 15 years as far as the relationships between us.

No, but it's like everything in the world changes, but Ramona and Jill are forever.

I know.

And that's, you know, so it's unfortunate.

Everything works out the way it's supposed to.

The truth is now I'm so fulfilled.

I work with my beautiful daughter, Allie, who's a friend of yours.

Scrap and a fan of yours.

Well, you like made a lot of waves during the pandemic because you started your own business.

And at first, it was like scrappy in your living room, and now it's like a full-fledged.

Can Allie come in?

Can you talk to me?

Come on.

Come.

Yeah, I want to show you guys what we've been doing.

And you brought gifts, which we

is a great way to get invited back.

We are the swag queens.

Swag queens.

That's important.

Allie, can you do it?

Because I'm kind of sunk in here.

And with the dog and the mic, can you show us?

Oh, show us.

Yeah, show us.

You show Jill Talk.

Whose is whose?

Yeah, that's good.

Whoever are you guys going to create.

This will show you.

I'm making all that snuggle.

That's a swag line that I thought would be good for the baby.

Oh, my God.

You're a baby.

Yeah, I just shouted for the baby.

A baby?

You are a baby.

No, I know.

How old?

29.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, I had Allie.

I was at 29.

She went to cool.

You look like a baby.

You look like a baby, though.

I'm launched Beauty Tools.

Congratulations.

Oh, my God.

Did you have a girl a boy?

A boy.

Oh, my God.

Mom's a little bit more.

So cute.

I love the name of the baby.

I hate him after Harry Dublin.

Harry Dubin.

I knew it.

You were going to say Harry Dubin.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

So you do beauty now?

You have candy.

Look how great these are.

Here, show them.

Prince Harry.

That is so cute.

Thank you so much.

I've never had enough jade rollers.

Oh, honestly.

Ice rollers.

And then obviously more phone charms for yourself.

Oh, phone charm.

Look at this.

I wore a dress the other night.

I literally was.

Oh, my God.

I love that.

That's a great beach bag.

Is this a great little bag?

So cute.

So, do I have a crop beach bag in other colors?

Yeah, you do.

Oh, I have some of your candles in my house.

I have sweatshirts.

Manifestation candles.

That's a great thing.

By the way, we have the best Bravo swag.

Yes, you do.

Better than shop by Bravo Docs.

100%.

I mean, come on.

Our New York, which is established, Beverly Hills established.

And then, you know, we did a tagline for each of the girls from the Ultimate Girls trip, and I gave each one of them a sweatshirt with their tagline.

And some of them wore it around the house.

We'll see if it shows up.

And it even had, like, we went, you know, most of the time, you can get a printed sweatshirt, whatever.

We embroidered the apple or the diamond or the peach on the sleeve.

We embroidered it, so it gave it a little bit of special.

Some of them even have the episode it came from on the sleeve.

So,

you know, people ask us a lot, like, how do you guys work together?

You don't kill each other.

I can never work with my sister, but you guys are in business together now.

And I'm curious if you prefer it to being in business with strangers, or it's better or worse.

Would you you like to answer that?

Sure.

Can you hear me?

Yeah.

Yeah, you're just talking.

I think,

you know, I worked in corporate before COVID.

And because of circumstances, I was like, oh, for my job, like a lot of other people.

And we never would have probably planned for this.

And I always distanced myself from the housewise and from reality TV to like do my own career, my own path, like on my own.

Like I never brought up,

you know,

was it hard?

Like being a kid?

No, this is what I want to know.

Was it hard being a kid in the city, going to high school with your mom on the show before it was like universally accepted as cool?

Back when it was like guilty pleasure.

It was really hard.

It was really embarrassing.

Really?

You guys were in the city.

I'm sure you heard rumors.

And when NYC Prep started,

it was embarrassing.

I could have seen you on NYC Prep.

I did

a few episodes.

Agreed.

Because they wanted this fantasy of gossip girl IRL.

Right.

But you can't do that.

It's not how it is.

You know, kids drinking.

Yeah.

Right.

But yeah, it was embarrassing.

I mean, Instagram didn't exist, which probably would have made it it worse if Instagram and TikTok existed when we were in high school.

Yeah.

But I think, and even now still, it's a guilty pleasure.

People are embarrassed to still talk about that, I watch the housewives.

It's like guilty pleasure.

Like, it's our secret for the girls' night.

So I still think there's a stigma around it.

But now that everyone is their own boss and has their own platform, it's definitely more normalized and more common.

What happened to those girls from New York City Prep?

Do we now have?

We're looking into them.

There's a deep dive on it.

Some of them got married.

Some of them are off the grid.

It's very unclear because they don't.

She got married.

They don't have huge social media and if they do, they're private.

Wow.

Yeah.

Kelly got married.

Kelly got married.

Sebastian got married.

Oh, Kelly.

Wow.

She got married.

Sebastian.

That was such a crazy time.

But you guys like working together.

Yes.

Was the original question that I asked?

I think that we both bring stuff to the table that's very different.

Like, I lean on her more for being the yes or no person, the final answer.

And I kind of like

do everything else, like the

actual groundwork, the dirty work.

Like I get in, you know, really, really dirty.

Allie does the dirty work.

And then Allie on her to be like, is it approved or not approved?

Like, yes or no.

You do the big phone calls, the big accounts, like you're, you come in as

I'm sales, right?

Face of, in a lot of ways.

And then Allie digs in.

So like, we'll have a big meeting with a corporate, with a big customer and their president or whatever, and we'll have a conversation.

And then when it gets trickled down to the buyer or whatever, then Allie goes to work and Allie gets involved and does the details, writes the orders, makes sure it follows the shipping and all that.

But I source the goods, I place the orders,

finances, I pay for everything.

So I have to have three other jobs to do that.

Right, right, right.

And then, you know, we have a great team.

Alyssa and Bailey are here.

And we've got our team in

a warehouse in New Jersey and Connecticut.

I'm based in Boca, so that's where I am most of the time.

So, you know, we're busy.

And you're doing this full-time now, Allie.

Full-time.

And that's Jill and Allie.

Then I have my rugs, which I have two in my house.

I have to say, nothing is easier to clean up, dog piss than, and it vacuums so well.

There's not a single stain on it.

I've had it for four years

from Wayfair.

It is one of my favorite rugs, and I probably will never buy another rug that's not Jill's Aaron.

I swear to God.

And I have now coming.

I've got to write the Testament.

Thank you.

We're working on our next line for next year.

I'm working on a Hamptons collection.

Amazing.

We need one in the studio.

We need to add that print to the collection.

I think we have it already in the Printed Tonk collection.

Well, we have some more collections coming out.

I just came out.

So we have our cleanable rugs indoor and outdoor that are dog and and pee and everything.

But I also have a higher end, a little bit of wool.

Do not have an animal if you want wool rugs.

I could put it here because you don't really have animals here, do you?

Well, we do.

We do.

But I have a pink and white rug that's perfect for this.

We'll send it.

We'll be right back.

I'm sending it.

We need a new rug.

Right, you need to, you definitely need a new rug.

I'm telling you.

I don't care.

It's not my rug.

It's a new rug.

It's a white rug.

White rugs with shoes.

Don't know.

Well, this is our fourth one.

We cycle through them after.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

But it's time for a new rug.

And I make this in white, by the way.

I do have this colour.

Oh, fabulous.

And it's stain-proof.

So it sounds like you are, like us, a moguls yeah allie i'm i i'm pitching her to be 39 to 30 for forbes i'm so bad that's the bucket list i don't have much but that's got it that's the bucket list did you guys never we've never done that

how old are you 29.

oh saying with time's running out time's running out this is it

so if anybody from forbes is listening

what do we ask her to do she deserves it she does deserve it a little bit well she did a lot of charity during the pandemic our lot you know just so you guys love the masks you guys yeah no that's that's true actually i could say we We gave away millions of

masks.

They love stuff like that.

It was a good run.

So, where can everyone shop, shop, Jill and Alley?

Shopjill and Alley.com.

JillZillandAlley.com.

Jill and Alley.com.

JillZarin.com for the rugs, the swag.

But they're both at the top of the website.

You can toggle, but you can toggle.

Oh, I love that.

On the website.

Toggle.

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She knows.

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O-S-H-R-Y.

Thank you for the gifts.

That was literally so nice and unnecessary.

And thank you for coming.

We love watching you on the new show.

It's so nice.

It's like peace has been restored in the universe.

Jill Zarin is going to be awesome.

Nature is seeing you.

Nature is calming.

You may want me back one more time.

I haven't seen the next two.

I saw tomorrow.

It's a must-watch tomorrow.

Really?

Yeah.

It's going to just expose a lot of things.

Oh, wow.

We love expose to you.

It's going to love an expose.

A lot of questions are going to get answered tomorrow, I think.

Okay.

For people who might be curious about certain things.

Oh, I'm ready for that.

On my way.

Thank you guys so much for listening.

If you're listening to this podcast, we are back tomorrow with a remote episode.

So, thank you so much for listening.

Have an amazing day.

Have a great day.

And we'll see you tomorrow.

Bye, guys.