S5 Ep80: Loser Sneeze: Wednesday, June 22nd, 2022

1h 3m
1. Luke Combs Welcomes First Child With Wife Nicole Hocking, Reveals Unique Name (Page Six) (16:46)
2. Hailey Bieber Sued For Trademark Infringement over Rhode Skincare Line (Page Six) (22:02) 
3. Harry Styles, Gucci Team Up For ‘Playful’ 1970 Inspired Collection (People) (33:00) 
4. Garcelle Beauvais Opens Up About Her Ongoing Eczema Battle (People) (40:10) 
5.Brad Pitt on Acting Career: ‘I Consider Myself on my Last Leg’ (Page Six) (46:55) 

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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Hump Day!

It is thrilling.

It is exciting because it is Jackson Claude original recipe back in the friggin friggin' studio.

Back in the studio, this week was so long and yet so short.

I feel like we were just here.

I am.

We were just doing breaking bread.

You look so different.

What's different?

Is it because you mote and growed?

Excuse me?

You mote and growed.

Met and grat.

Yeah.

Yes, I met and greeted.

Meeted and greeted.

Meeted and greeted.

So I was going to get to that.

Yeah.

I was going to.

I actually woke up and was like thinking of like a good joke for the show today, and that's what I came to.

I was coming on.

It's going to be a good episode.

Really good.

Okay, I was going to get to everything, but I was just going to say that we we have Breaking Bread tonight, Spotify Live.

And like, last we spoke, we were doing Breaking Bread, and we literally have not spoken since.

That's how busy this weekend was for both of us.

I got back from Dallas last night.

I was in town for the Spritz meet and greet at Specs.

And you guys, it was my first solo meet and greet.

And like, not only did I kill it,

but everyone who came was just so amazing, wonderful.

Like, I could have spoken to everyone for so much longer than I even did.

There were so many new mamas.

There were so many just like people who have been around for so long.

So many people brought wonderful gifts.

It was really just a pleasure.

It's a pleasure.

And I just feel like everyone who was there, like,

were just like so simpatico.

You know, they were like a vibe.

I feel like we all, right?

Does that ever happen at a meet and greet where it's like we were electric?

We were all in this together.

Like, we'll always have Dallas.

It was electric.

I know what you mean.

We'll always have Dallas, you guys.

And if you know, you know.

If you were there, like, you know.

No, it looked amazing.

I was like watching on Instagram and the content was premium, the toasters were premium, and it looked like a extravagant affair it really was I got to meet and greet so many people signing autographs I had never really signed an autograph before but my fire penmanship came like this was the role I was born to play you need to write a book because like you sign your name so many times when you write a book yeah and like if you don't have a good signature like it's actually embarrassing yeah um and like you need to do that just so you can really flex your penmanship yeah because i was signing boxes and canvas bags and it wasn't as much it wasn't the best seamless yeah yeah the pen to paper they weren't surface it wasn't perfection so yeah I would love to do that like put my John Hancock over everything yeah I remember like when I I literally practiced my signature before my book came out and I was like looking at I think it was Stasi she's such a cool signature

but also her name like the S and the S it's just not fair like I'm literally C O like they're just two ugly blocky round letters you know well actually you could make the C and the O very similar and it would look like S and S, you know?

Yeah, I guess, but it's just like being, like, people think being famous is so easy and, like, it's literally so hard, you know?

That's like when people do logos, like the Netflix logo.

Yeah.

It stands for never pause.

Can you believe that?

Claudia, I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at something you've ever made in my whole life.

It only took, what, nine years on the internet, but thank you.

No, but before that, it was something else.

Yeah.

But this made me laugh harder.

I think I watched shit 10 times and I laughed every time.

No, literally, like can we just talk about how like i'm really coming into my own on tick tock did it go viral that one no of course not but i also posted it i couldn't sleep before my flight to toronto it was literally like three in the morning it's like the worst timing um so it did fine it got like maybe like 150 views but like i could it could have done better that's premium it got a million views on reels because reels people are real people

Powerful words.

Make it a Canva Pro.

Jot it down.

Reels people are real people.

And we like good comedy.

Jackie, that's beautiful.

Thank you so much.

How are we doing on TikTok since we last spoke?

Also, I needed to let everyone know, at the meet and greet was a girl who's been a toaster for three weeks because she found us on TikTok.

It's working.

It's working.

That is what I love to hear.

And she was so toasty.

I would have never known she was so new.

So it's reaching the intended audience.

Like, are you trying to make me cry?

Like, that's literally what we set out to do, and we're doing it.

We're doing it.

Oh, that is such a relief.

Oh.

but we've got a great show.

It's Wednesday, so we have Deer Toasters.

I'm just going to jump right in, even though we've been off for like six days.

No, no, no.

I'm not saying it's time to jump in.

I was just giving everyone like a rundown of what was going on.

Is that okay?

Yeah, I'm going to call you out, though.

Every time there's a lull in conversation.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

And every time there's a lull in conversation between me and Claudia, she says, well, we have a great show.

Well, you want to know why?

One, we do have a great show.

And two, somebody's got to say something.

No, no, like conversation.

We never not have something to say.

No, but like when in the before like the crunch and before the stories and everything,

sometimes there's like a dip.

And I always think a great way to pick back up because then we don't go into the stories when I say that.

Then we think of something else to say, you know?

Sure, but I have so many other things I could have said.

Like, how was your weekend?

I could have talked about the rest of my weekend.

How was Ben on the toast yesterday?

It was good.

Obviously, you didn't watch it.

No, I didn't.

When I saw notification, like, I was so in a time warp this weekend, especially since I was supposed to leave for Dallas on Thursday.

And due to the fact that that nothing works,

I didn't get to go until Saturday.

My flight on Thursday was canceled.

All flights that day were canceled because there was some rain in the morning, and then they blame everything on weather.

The rest of the day is beautiful.

At the destination, it's beautiful.

And it's like people have been flying now for almost a century.

Like, you really want to say you can't fly in the weather?

No, they blame it on rain.

They say weather because that is like an acceptable way to cancel.

And that way they don't have to like reimburse you for all of your trouble.

If they cancel you for no reason, then like you are entitled to like a credit and all these things from the airline.

But when they say weather, because there's a drop of rain, that's them like not having to pay you.

It was so crazy.

It was thunderstorming when I woke up, but I never even left my house.

My flight was canceled.

I tried to get on any other flight they wanted to route me through Pittsburgh, and I just wasn't in the mood for a divine diversion.

No.

Like I just didn't see that for me.

You have to be in the mood for that.

There was nothing divine about it.

And also traveling with a baby, like we're not going to get to work.

That's just not going to happen.

So then I was like, you know what?

Clearly there was some rain today.

The airlines are Fakakta.

We'll go Friday.

Booked a flight for Friday.

Before I left the house, it was canceled.

Every other flight from that route was canceled.

I looked at every other airport.

There was not a nary a flight.

Like nothing works.

It was so crazy.

You, Olivia, and I all went to different airports on the same morning to go to different places.

I bought four tickets and thankfully one of them took off and then I got a refund for the other three.

Olivia sat on the plane for six hours until she was forced to go home and you never even left your house.

Never even left my house for 48 hours.

Because your flight was canceled.

And all other flights were canceled.

It was a crazy travel weekend.

I hope it was like

a moment in time.

No, it's been getting really bad since Memorial Day and then the New York Post like wrote up that day and I was, thankfully they did because I was like looking for other travelers to talk to or like

or like an article that's like Delta canceled 1500 flights today like so that I knew it wasn't just like what's going on there's no one to talk to.

There's no community when your flight gets canceled.

And it's like, I guess if I was at the airport, I could commiserate with other travelers.

Yes, I love to do that, by the way.

But I was just like, I was looking on Twitter, like, Delta canceled to see, like, if other people were having the same experience and, like, what was going on.

And New York Post wrote it up, and they said it was the worst travel day of the summer.

You guys, the summer hasn't even started.

That's true.

It's still technically spring.

Summer hasn't even started.

Wait, what day does summer start?

June 21st.

I think it started yesterday.

Oh, so it still wasn't summer on Thursday.

It still wasn't summer when they said it.

I think it's going to be really bad and continue to be bad because like Friday was a beautiful day.

And your flight was canceled.

And all flights were canceled from that route.

Yeah, so me and Ben are trying to plan a trip to Italy in July.

And honestly, part of me like doesn't even want to go.

Even though I have to say, flying back from Canada, I got to use my global entry for the first time.

And I swear to God, like I am elite.

I'm better than everyone.

It felt so good.

Like

it was worth the journey to JFK in the middle of a Wednesday.

And it was worth all the trouble.

Highly recommend getting global entry.

And I didn't have to take my shoes off.

That is nice.

I have,

in general, I don't have a desire for travel.

I'm not going anywhere ever again.

You don't wander to be lost?

I don't wander to be lost.

But, like, for people who have to travel, like, what do you do?

And it just made me realize, like, what is something that you absolutely have to go to that, like, you couldn't just, like, I had to go for the meet and greet.

Like, a funeral.

A funeral, like, to say goodbye to a loved one.

A wedding.

Anything else?

If I was going through that, I would just cancel my trip.

Like, it was like an optional affair.

And really, everything is optional.

I just don't know how people are living like this.

Like, will I go on my trip?

Who knows?

Yeah, no, it's um, it's crazy.

So, I'm so happy to be home.

Ben wanted to go visit Olivia this weekend.

I'm like, I love Olivia with every five, like, there is not, my heart is filled with love for my sister Olivia.

No one doubts it and her husband.

No one doubts it.

And Michaela, like, of course, I would take a bullet.

Three.

But not a plane.

But not a plane.

Like, so I'm like, Ben, we can't go.

Like, my mental health, like, I can't take it.

No, I can't.

It's really, really bad.

No, I know.

So I'm glad our travel weekend weekend is behind us and we can be here to give everyone the show that they deserve.

Yeah.

Back to the show.

Back to the show, but like, is anyone else shook?

No, it was shook worthy.

But it's

it happened in a vacuum.

So if you weren't traveling this weekend, like you don't give a shit.

You'll all see.

You'll all see.

Enjoy your trip.

And like, you'll just be looking for community and for people to talk to and for people who are talking about it.

So this is for the people who need to feel seen because they didn't get to their place where they were going on time.

This is for all of you because I was just like, I was, it was shook.

Okay, at least you had to experience the whole thing from your house.

You weren't sitting at La Guardia Airport for 12 hours.

If I was,

I don't even know.

Then it would have made the news.

I literally woke up at eight, flight was canceled.

Flight was canceled.

I'm like, you know what?

Let me get my ass to the airport.

I'll hop on.

And you went without a flight.

By the way, that was something I couldn't miss.

I had to work.

I know, I know, I know.

I went without a flight.

I bought three tickets.

One of them took off, canceled the other two.

Love that whole 24-hour cancellation thing.

I got my money back immediately.

Did my event.

I still haven't gotten my money back for my Friday flight.

I still haven't gotten my money back from this.

Delta.

I haven't gotten my money back for my Friday flight that never took off and there was never any other route I could have taken.

You guys didn't even tell me, hey, jump on this flight.

You guys just said, good luck.

Also, they never even sent a notification that the flight was canceled.

This was the craziest thing.

So I woke up that morning, I looked on Flight Aware, and it said canceled.

And I was like, what?

I didn't get a note.

I have the app, you know, they let me know when everything's happening.

So I went to my app, still says boarding on time.

I click boarding on time, and it says canceled.

Ooh.

And so all morning, I was also like trying to get on the phone with Delta to confirm that it's canceled.

Tried to call Delta, nine-hour wait time.

Okay, so I made it to Toronto.

I was in Toronto for approximately four hours, ran from my event in full glam.

I'm sweating in the back of this Uber.

My flight's at 10.30.

I get to the airport, literally 9.55.

Brees is security.

I run.

He took my settings break.

I said, sorry, you can keep it.

I run.

Get to the gate five minutes before boarding.

My phone starts buzzing.

I'm like, oh, it's probably Ben checking on me.

Your flight has been canceled.

As I'm literally standing at the gate, we booked you on a flight.

This was Thursday.

They said, we booked you on a flight Saturday, 6 p.m.

Thanks, guys i'm like what

we called not only did they say we have a long wait time they said you can't get on the line bye bitch yeah they gave me like a number to text instead and it was an hour to get a text back it was so psychotic and when you think about the travel industry at a glance it's like we are first of all travel is so expensive like it's more expensive than it's ever been and we are being treated like worse than we've ever been treated.

It's a scam.

It's literally a scam that we're all just okay with because like, how else are we going to get there?

When you look around the airport, it's just fill of miserable people.

And I don't blame them.

And it's like the people who you're able to talk to, like the gate agents, like they, they can't do anything.

They didn't cause this.

No.

And who can we talk to?

No, and really justice for the gate agents because airlines are so understaffed.

People are so miserable and cranky and they take it on out on the gate agent when the gate agent is just trying to like get through their shift and get home.

Of course.

And that's going to like force the gate agent to seek different employment.

Of course, that's why they're miserable.

And everyone is just miserable.

Yeah.

Period.

And not even like, it's just so unhappy and everything's so unpleasant.

You try to take a vacation with your family to have a nice weekend off.

You work hard and you can't even fucking get there.

Like, how are we supposed to get to a better place?

It ain't right.

It ain't right.

And there's no accountability in the airline.

I'm like,

who can we talk to?

And really, we need TPG to take up the mantle and fight for us.

Well, you know what?

I was actually watching this TikTok.

So I forget what the date was, but people on TikTok are trying to organize a gas strike.

So for like two days, nobody buys gas.

I think they've done it in the past and it's like, it's in, they're trying to seek the gas prices be brought down because no one can afford gas anymore.

So and people were like making fun of the guy trying to start it, but he's like, it actually worked like 50 years ago.

And like, why don't we just try?

Like two days, nobody buys gas.

I actually thought it was kind of smart.

And I know people like need to travel, but we need to go on strike.

I agree.

But also the pilots are on strike too.

Yeah, no, and Delta is like begging retired pilots to come back to work.

No one wants, it seems like nobody wants to work these days.

Yeah, but because the conditions, like they're overworked, the pilots are underpaid.

But they also fired so many employees in the aviation field who didn't get vaccinated.

Like, maybe you could bring those people back now, too.

And it's like, who were the travelers need to strike?

The pilots are striking.

I think air traffic control is striking.

That happened like in Florida a few weeks ago.

They said it was weather, but really everyone was on strike.

And who are we?

The T, who are we striking against?

I think the FAA, yeah?

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know, but like.

The Secretary of Transportation, there's someone who's in charge here.

100%.

And it's not us.

And it's not us.

And we need TPG to really bring everyone together.

He's gallivanting around Europe, but when he comes back,

this is his time.

Yeah.

This is his time.

This is his time.

Okay.

So travel rant, complete.

Don't go anywhere unless you have to.

And without further ado, if you are traveling and you're delayed and you need some girls to get you through, here we are with the fast life stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Our first story is the big news of the day.

Probably the story I care most about.

Luke Homes welcomed his first child with his wife, Nicole Hawking, and they revealed his name, baby boy, Tex Lawrence Combs, entered the world on Father's Day, and they were kind enough to share name, photo, everything with us.

Kylie take notes and warm the cockles of our hearts.

So I feel like the pressure for Luke and Nico Holmes to have like the best country name was really high because like you know we've interviewed Luke so many times

and he really and I think he knows like he embodies he always says it's like his songs are redneck imagery like he embodies country culture and his child's name like I don't even know if he knows like the amount of pressure like the suspense and he

passed with flying colors.

I hadn't thought about what they would name their son or what I expected them to name their son.

Plus, Luke and Nicole have very classic names.

Yeah.

You know, Luke is like one of the most popular boys.

Lucas, 1288.

Lucas, 1285.

Don't forget it.

Be kind to others.

But yeah, there is a lot of pressure to have like a

country kid.

Yeah.

And I love this name.

I love Tex.

And also, he's Texan.

Luke?

Texan?

I don't know.

I don't know.

He loves the Cowboys.

No, he loves Carolina.

He's from North Carolina.

Because he went to Caroline.

Sorry, Kyle.

He loves the Cowboys and they bet on every game.

Yeah.

No, Luke's from North Carolina.

And I think Nico's from Florida.

Yeah.

But Tex, and then Lawrence is a classic name.

And it's probably a family name.

Gorgeous.

Love this name.

So happy for them.

Like, this is really just like a

country fairy tale.

It's a country fairy tale.

I love them so much.

I was like screaming.

You know, being on Nico's close friends story is amazing.

Are you on it?

Yeah.

And so I think a lot of people thought she already had the baby, but she was on the close friends being like, nope, not yet.

And so I didn't think it was coming so soon.

No, I think it was imminent.

And also, I remember when she post announced her, when they announced that they were pregnant, they were like, coming spring 2022.

And people were like to them, where's the baby?

Like, it's spring.

And she was like, no, it's still spring.

I think he literally came on the last one.

June 21st.

Yeah, exactly.

So happy for them, wishing them well, love them.

And this is beautiful, Jackie.

That's beautiful.

That is beautiful.

And the early days are just so special and so chaotic.

Going crazy.

Wishing them sweet.

So sweet.

Also, the American Academy of Pediatrics just put out new guidelines for healthy baby sleep, which everyone was sending me yesterday.

Like, if you're on like mom, Instagram, like, all of your accounts are posting graphics today.

And it's really just like obvious stuff.

What does it say?

Like, baby should sleep on his back.

Baby shouldn't have anything else in the crib.

But like, this is now they say they're saying it officially.

Yeah.

You know, no weighted blankets, swaddles, or like.

Who the fuck would put a weighted blanket on a baby?

A weighted swaddle might make them feel, you know, in theory, might make them feel like

something toasty.

No incline more than 10 inches in the crib like a pillow sort of thing

anyways so check that out even though i'm sure you've heard we were all doing that already even though i'm sure you've heard it all before there was nothing that i was like oh crap i've been doing right right right crap crap crap even though sometimes i do check harry's camera and i do see like you know a stuffed animal no there's not a stuffed animal in the corner of his crib yeah the lies no there is there's not a stuffed animal in his corner there's like some shit you know no there's not not since he's been like since he reached two months oh okay yeah maybe it was like when he was born.

When he was born, yeah, they put stuff down, was in the curb to make it like a little cozier.

It was cute.

Yeah, sure.

Also

was gonna say,

also was gonna say,

take your time.

I think it was gonna be good when I said it.

We've got nowhere to be in all night to get there.

Actually, we do have somewhere to be.

We're recording an interview after this.

I know, and I need to pump in between.

So I

think my thought is just bleeding.

It has to go.

By the side of the road.

Collateral.

Oh, got it back.

I have to stop cursing.

I curse so much.

Oh.

And I need to stop now because I can't curse like this around my son.

So now when I curse, I need you to call me out.

Okay, that'll be hard for me just because for me, like the word fuck is like the word the, you know, like I don't even notice it.

These days, shoot.

Shoot, fudge.

Oh, crap.

Oh, oh, crikey.

Darn.

Darn.

Darn.

So just call me out.

Like, I'll try.

Really?

Like, I've been saying for years, but like, now I'm really working on it.

So I totally respect that.

I'll do my best to help you, but like, I am not going to be that mom.

Like, if my kids curse, like, I don't give a fuck.

Like, they could be doing meth, you know?

Yeah.

No, I need a swear jar on the show.

Okay, fine.

And what, we'll put the money towards charity.

Yeah.

We'll find a

do a swear Venmo.

Like, what are you going to bring a quarter to every show?

A swear Venmo.

That's cute.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cool.

And maybe we'll donate it to, you know, a cause that helps babies in need.

Oh, love.

Baby to baby.

Baby to baby.

Love.

Our next story.

Philanthropic queens.

Like, that just took such a great turn.

No way, I know.

Do you know what that is?

Turning a Naggy into a posi.

Our next story.

Haley Bieber is sued for a trademark infringement over Rode Skincare Line.

Haley Bieber and her new beauty brand are in hot water.

The model who launched her Rode Skincare Line on June 15th is being sued for a trademark infringement by an eight-year-old fashion brand of the the same name as first reported by TMZ.

In a statement to Page 6 Style, the latter Rhodes legal team claims Bieber tried to acquire the trademark from a design duo in 2018.

When they refused, she allegedly went forward with launching her own brand anyway.

They posted a statement to their Instagram saying, you know, they're very disheartened that Healey would do this.

Loser.

I think you should read the statement.

I have like really harsh thoughts on this.

And I just want to say,

I have bought a dress from Shop Road that was in XL, and I swear to God, I couldn't get it over my thigh.

So maybe they should focus on that instead of losery-ass statements like this.

But nevertheless, I digress.

Was that the loser sneeze?

Yeah, literally.

What's the movie?

I mean, it's in everything in the 90s.

I don't even know when

he was like, you have been doing the loser sneeze since.

Loser.

It's from Bringon.

Bring it on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And who put them in their place?

Oh, Missy's brother.

Of course.

Yeah, of course he did.

Okay, here's the statement from Shop Road.

Nine years ago, we quit our jobs and founded Rode out of our apartment, creating a fashion company from nothing.

We're two women entrepreneurs who met in college, built the Rode brand, and put years of hard work into our minority co-owned company.

Today, we were forced to file a lawsuit against Haley Pieper and her new skincare line that launched last week and that is using the brand Rode.

We didn't want to file this lawsuit, but we had to in order to protect our business.

We admire Haley.

She has worked hard and earned the ability to create her own skincare line.

We don't want to sue Haley.

We want to celebrate her.

As fellow women entrepreneurs, we we wish her every success.

Do you?

Haley could choose any brand for her skincare line.

We have only the brand name Rode that we've built.

That's why we didn't sell her our brand when she asked four years ago and why we ask her now to change her skincare line's brand.

Her using our brand is hurting our company, our employees, our customers, and our partner.

Okay, I just want to say I have been a customer and I'm not hurt by this.

No, and to be honest, like this is the best thing that could happen to their company because now they put out this statement.

Right.

Everyone's reading it.

I personally had never heard of Shop Road.

I had, and by the way, they're fancy.

They sell at sacks.

Their dresses are expensive.

Yeah.

I bought a dress that was literally expensive.

And I was like, first of all, it didn't fit.

And second of all, it was like so

not made well.

So maybe I'm just biased because.

Oh, yeah, it's cute stuff.

And now they have, and now I'm seeing stuff I wouldn't have seen.

Maybe I'll check out their brand.

I have so many thoughts.

Thanks, Haley.

The first thing is that.

It's not like the way that this

statement makes it seem, it's like Haley saw the company Rode, thought it was a cool word and stole it.

It's literally her name, first of all.

So it's like, it's not like she had, it was their creative idea that she stole it.

Like literally, she was born with this name, first of all.

Second of all, they say when she tried to buy our company four years ago, now I don't know this for a fact, but I would literally bet my entire life that she didn't want to buy their clothing company.

She probably wanted to buy like shoproad.com or the at username.

People buy usernames all the time.

I've bought usernames.

We bought the Spritz username.

I think it's intentionally misleading.

Like she's been watching us.

She wanted to buy our whole company and then she decided to do it better.

I think the wording there is very intentionally misleading.

And two,

first of all, one is a skincare brand.

One is a clothing brand.

So there's no way anyone is going to confuse, oh no, I bought the serum from Shop Road when I thought it was Rode Haley Bieber.

Like literally, you can't even buy one similar product.

Does Rode sell chapstick?

Like it's so stupid, first of all.

Second of all, things are allowed to have the same name legally in this country if they're different brands.

Yeah, that's the thing for me with all of these cases.

And I do feel like this one is the biggest reach of them all.

You know, the last one was the Skakin and it was the facial service.

But they were all skincare based.

So I think everyone in a court of law might have ground to stand on.

Lori Harvey, the facialist.

Okay, the facialist versus Kim, I actually don't think she had ground to stand on because Kim wouldn't have been able to trademark it in her field if she had ground to stand on.

And she would have gone with a different name.

But it is a little similar.

So they're all in skincare.

So there's a conversation to be had.

Sure, sure.

But is everyone, is anyone talking about how like Delta Airlines, there's also like a a faucet company named Delta?

Right.

Magnolia Bakery, Magnolia.

Right.

That's what they're doing.

Games.

And when these things happen, I really defer to the trademark office because if it was a conflict, you wouldn't be able to trademark it.

So if Haley, and I don't think Haley Bieber would launch a brand that she couldn't have trademarked, that's like the first thing you do in business.

So if she's able to trademark her products with ease, then she's not violating any laws.

I think this lawsuit is a complete waste of their time and money.

And this whole thing is thirsty and losers' fees.

And I'm getting tired of it.

No, this thing, this is like such a reach.

Like my arm is killing me.

And I felt like their statement was so like victim mentality.

Victim.

And I think it was full of lies.

Like I don't, and I don't know for this for a fact, but I would just bet anything that Haley Bieber did not try and buy their clothing company four years ago.

I think their wording was intentionally confusing because I do think she probably tried to buy some of the website domains or something else.

Like I don't think she was out here buying clothing companies.

Yeah.

So I just feel like this is like

people are seeing, like, even we were talking about before, I had no idea Lori Harvey had a

skincare line.

And Lori Harvey never even posted anything.

It was other people pointing out skin by LH versus skin by Kim.

And it was great press for her.

I thought her website was gorgeous.

Like, I'd never heard of it.

Now I'm like, maybe I need to get something.

Right.

So I think this is like a trend people are seeing.

And like, if they position themselves as the victim against a big, bad celebrity, they're going to get tons of press, tons of sales, tons of attention.

They are getting those things.

But I think it's also, like, the discourse I've seen around this particular story is not similar to the ones I've seen about, like, Kim and Skin by LH.

Why do you think that is?

Because people are seeing this and it's a reach.

It's not the same category.

Not even close.

So it has literally, I can think of a million, thrive cosmetics, thrive market.

I could think of a thousand companies in this country that are in different sectors that literally swift trucking, Taylor Swift.

Like, I could think of a thousand cross

category brands that have this similar or same or even just one word.

Right.

And at least this is her name.

It's just, this is such a reach and it's, it's giving like

loser energy.

Sorry, I don't want to be mean, but like, I just feel like this is like taking advantage of like a movement

when you really don't have a leg to stand on.

And like most things, it started in earnest.

Yeah.

And now people are really just reaching here.

Like, I was reading the comments on a, actually, they were, they were actually extreme.

A lot of our toasters are like extremely smart legal girlies.

And so people were just having conversations in our Facebook group about.

And I also want to read the comments on the post.

Yeah.

I'm sure it's like,

stay strong.

Right.

But hold on, let me find it.

Because I thought it was very

astute, you know, smart girlies doing their legal tang.

Let's see, let's see.

Road, road, road.

Oh, here.

Oh, my God.

Literally stay strong.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

Are people saying stay strong?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Okay, some people are saying they're signing with the business.

Some people said this is definitely a PR move.

It's not illegal to use the same name in different industries.

They probably asked four years ago to avoid this exact same thing, not to steal her name.

Right.

A lot of people said she also didn't ask if she could use their name.

She asked if she could buy their name, probably for domain purposes, not for trademarking.

Someone else said, Haley is not going to change the name, nor should she really, as I gather.

Road is a clothing brand, is trademarked as it is, a clothing brand.

If they were working in skincare, this would be a different story.

Haley using the name in a completely different space and market isn't wrong of her.

Also, her team asking to buy the name four years ago isn't that odd.

It would have been odd if they hadn't reached out in hopes of buying the name.

If anything, I would imagine this

would be positive for their brand, not causing them any harm.

Someone else, I basically live in trademarks for my job.

I thought I'd share what actually exists and what is currently live and active.

This is Haley's trademark filing.

I will attach the other two for the same names.

Hers is filed first out of all three.

That's interesting.

And of the other two,

are claiming both clothing and retail.

So Haley did it first, and it's in a different category.

Also, none of them were filed even close to four years ago, like this company is claiming.

I feel like it's easy for people to pretend to be mad with celebrities for made-up reasons with no substance, and this is what it feels like.

And she has screenshots.

So that's actually really interesting.

Haley's Rode Skincare was trademarked before any of the others, and they're in different categories, which is really what this whole conversation is about.

Oh, well, that's that on that then.

Yeah, I just don't like

people using a movement to like.

Of course, it's weird to get

genuine.

I don't think

victim PR, especially when I literally know for a fact this hasn't affected their business one ounce.

No, it's the complete opposite.

I personally never heard of Shop Road.

These are nice dresses.

I'll check them out.

Yeah, so it's like Haley.

And they know that.

Saying Haley's hurting our employees, our customers, our partners.

Drama.

Haley's hurting your customers?

No, we're fine.

We are literally fine.

Haley's hurting their customers.

Yeah, no.

It's crazy.

No, but this is like a trend now.

And at first it was like crazy.

And now I'm like, all right.

No, it's just, it needs to be called out.

Yeah.

And that's that.

Yeah.

On that.

On that.

More fashion news from your fashion girlies.

From your fascists.

That's a joke from Frank.

I was going to say more fashion news from your fashion girlies who wear the same thing every day and keep matching.

More fashion girlies from your Maxinistas.

Yeah.

From From Shop Amazon.

Yeah.

From Missy Empire.

Has anybody heard of this website, Missy Empire?

I saw an Instagram ad from a girl that I followed and she was wearing a set collared and shorts and that's all I've been wearing, obviously.

And I wore.

Set collared and shorts are all that fits me right now.

No, collared shirts and shorts are all that fits me right now.

And they look nice and proper and professional.

And so I was influenced by her and I went to Missy Empire and it looks just like Missguided.

The like the whole website and it's Missy, Missguided.

I Googled to see if they're related.

I didn't find anything.

No, but those Instagram ads are getting better.

It used to be like a scam.

If you ever in your life...

No, it was a girl.

It was an influencer.

Brand deal.

Well, if you ever in your life like see an ad for a website called Z Crave, don't buy their ski suits.

Don't buy it.

First of all, they don't let you return.

Don't buy their skin.

They're so expensive to guys.

That was the biggest scam I'd ever in my life.

And it made me so wary of.

That was Facebook, actually.

Yeah, Snitch and I once got matching like cool ski suits from one of those websites.

And it was like, hers was pink and mine was blue.

Mine was pink and hers was blue.

And it was like furry.

And we would have been like two snow buddies on the slopes.

Couldn't have been cuter.

They might as well have sent a hot bag of garbage

because it was crap.

Crap, yeah.

You have to be so careful these days.

We would have been so cute.

I know.

Okay, our fashion news.

Harry Styles and Gucci are teaming up for a playful 1970s inspired collection called Ha Ha Ha Collection.

And it's inspired by Harry's friendship with the

Briannes.

With the Brand.

The Brianne of Tarth.

With the brand's creative director, Alessandro Michelle.

Oh, so H and A.

Heha.

H.

Oh, Harry.

Harry and Alice.

I didn't understand the haha collection.

Me neither.

I was like, is it funny?

Are you comic?

This is cute.

Honestly, I don't know if like Harry's fans are out here buying Gucci suits because I think they're really young.

But for Harry's brand, this is great.

The stuff looks cute.

He's so like.

He's so fashion.

He's so fashion.

Fellow fascist.

Even though his fans aren't, you know, probably writing to buy this men's suits he is like an icon in the fashion world and this is really like good for his brand and he's Gucci and Gucci is him and it's perfect and he's so like 70s 70s patterned suits it's a no-brainer yeah I think this is really smart

and it just makes me think about like celebrity collabs with like major fashion houses remember Ariana Grande for

what was it Jiamanchi yeah and that was like random what did she do for that what was the collection what did they do for her I don't remember I don't know.

Obviously, there's Kim and Blenziaga, which I can visualize what that looks like, you know, long leggings over your feet and gloves.

And the bags.

Yeah, and the bags.

So I don't really,

I like that Ariana Grande collab was weird.

But what's different is like, those were like, we're going to be the face of this brand.

This is a collaboration collection.

Yes, yes, yes, that's true.

Also, the brand said the phrase, ha ha ha, is how Alessandra, Michelle, and Harry have ended their messages to each other for years since meeting.

I just feel like that's like a little personal.

No, so that's why it's called that, but it's also like Harry.

It's their initials.

It's their initials.

Yeah, this stuff is really cute.

Harry Styles is like really killing it.

I know.

With the music, with his personal life, he seems so happy.

His nail polish company is like doing so well, pleasing.

Like Harry is...

is that bitch.

Like he's really

like kind of like the biggest rock star in the world.

No, for real.

The way like...

And what's nice about it is that he really is worthy and he's so talented, you know?

It's not like everybody's just obsessed with someone who stinks.

No, and it's like this, not that they stink, but it's like, it's not confusing.

Like, and this is not me railing on BTS, but like when you, when they first came on the scene, we were like confused.

Like, how are there literally a million people at a stadium?

And now I understand it, but with Harry, it's like we've watched his progress.

And honestly, now that I've known BTS for a few years, I can say they are extremely worthy.

Oh, by the way, we never made a distory.

You know they're going on hiatus.

I did see that.

Is that crazy?

It is crazy, but you know me, holding out hope as always.

No, but hiatus is.

And I just don't think, like,

even though this is going to hurt me to say, like, Little Mix is not BTS.

Like, I don't, I guess they're like the Beatles, you know?

Yes.

And all good things must come to an end.

Because I was going to say, how do you walk away from that?

But, like, people do it every day.

No, I know.

And I wanted to get your take on something me and Ben were arguing about yesterday.

You know, Marcus Mumford is leaving Mumford and Sons.

He's going solo.

Okay.

And me and Ben were going back and forth on like whether he would be successful or not.

And Ben like didn't even know his first name.

And Ben was like, this is the worst idea ever.

He's going to flop.

And I'm like, I think he's going to be huge.

I think it's going to be the same.

But

why can't he just go solo and bring the rest of the band with him?

Isn't it him singing anyway?

And it's literally Mumford and Sons.

Like, they could just call him Mumford.

No, I know.

And.

Why does things have to be this way?

Why does everything have to be so extreme?

But the band had already started falling apart.

Like last year, one of the

one of the band members left.

So I feel like it was only a matter of time.

But like, how do you perceive Mumford and Sons?

Like, me and Ben were on two different pages.

I said, like, they're not at the same level, but they remind me similarly to like Cold Play.

That's what I thought you were going to say.

Agreed.

Just like that.

Ben thought I was crazy for saying that.

They're just such a well-respected band.

They're not like the thirstiest, but like they draw huge crowds.

Thank you.

Oh my God.

I feel so validated.

Ben thought I was crazy.

I'm like, they literally play stadiums.

I went to one of their concerts.

It was like in college, it was literally the biggest place I'd ever been.

It was an amazing show.

It was incredible.

I used to be such a crazy cryob.

And what's crazy about Mumford and Susan is you would think, and this is how you know the power of Mumford, you would think that we wouldn't like them because they're so not us.

They're not sceny.

No.

They're alternative, yet they are for everyone.

Okay, I'm so glad you agree.

I feel so validated because I'm like, am I crazy?

Or like, I literally, the clips I see like on social media from some of their concerts, they don't go on tour a lot, but when I do, it's like hundreds of thousands of people.

Okay, I feel so validated.

Thank you.

Yeah.

And by the way, you know, Marcus Bumford wrote the theme song for Ted Lasso.

It's his song.

Yes, yes.

Yeah, and it's really good.

So he's been doing like his own thing, him and Carrie Mulligan.

Are they together?

Married.

Yeah, I was trying to think who he's married to because I remembered as someone famous, which is so exciting.

No, and then Ben was like, who's Karen Mulligan?

And that's when I knew I couldn't talk to him anymore.

It can be frustrating.

Karen Mulligan, okay?

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

No.

Okay, good, because

is it hot in here today?

Yeah.

It's been like freezing in here every day, so we come in in our shorts for the summer, and now I'm sweating.

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Our next story: Garcel Bouvet is opening up about her ongoing eczema battle.

she said I wanted to crawl out of my skin so Garcelle is sitting down with People magazine to talk about her struggle with the painful skin condition of eczema

so um I saw this yesterday on social media it was like a digital cover it was a beautiful picture of Garcelle literally my queen um because I am gonna rail on her so I just want to say like I love this

respect like I she's turning out to be one of my favorite housewives in history so before okay so it was this digital cover and it it was like, you know, people is always like breaking news about, you know, my life with some, and it said, Garcel Bouvet opening up about my life with eczema.

And I was like,

oh, um,

okay,

because like eczema is extremely common.

I had it when I was a kid.

Like, it's extremely common.

It affects more than 31 million Americans.

Right.

And it's just like, it's, I didn't know it was something that you had like an article written about.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that you have to.

And I'm not, you know, doubting her journey or her trauma, but it's this, this is just like classic celeb.

Like, you need, when you get press as a celebrity, like, you need like a, something a hook.

A hook.

And, like, this is just kind of like a, like a light hook.

Extremely light hook.

I think that's a kind way of putting it.

Right.

Um, I don't know why she even like needs extra press.

She gets so much just from like

the show, her, like real.

I would just want to hear Garcelle talk about my life as Garcelle.

No, so traumatic.

that's a cover i would read and i was just like really confused by this because to me having eczema is like definitely an inconvenience but it's not like a life altering thing unless you have like the worst case of eczema ever and it's all over your face for the most part people who struggle with eczema get like especially in the winter like patches on their legs and arms yeah she said she started getting patches behind her knees right so it's definitely inconvenient to me like the equivalent is like having to wear contact lenses.

Like there's something slightly off, but it doesn't change your life.

So this to me, I was like, Garcel Bouvet, my life with glasses.

Like,

it just, it seemed like a lot.

I was confused.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But literally love, respect the fuck out of Garcel.

I was just like, mm.

But I also, I did see a TikTok about Garcelle.

It was GMN.

Garcelle's Mindless News.

Thank you.

I was looking for like the perfect way to wrap it up and you just did it.

Yeah.

I did see this TikTok of Garcelle.

Like no one putting enough respect on Garcelle's name for being like the absolute 90s style icon.

If you go and look at her red carpet photos from the 90s when she was like up and coming, she wasn't coming to America, like she's literally like everyone's always posting like, you know,

Johnny Depp and Winota.

Like she's that bitch.

Like

her little glasses and her like maxi body con dresses.

Like she's so sickening.

I'm on my way.

Here I am.

And just like look up like 90s red carpets.

90s.

That's all you need.

Yeah.

Everything of the sort.

Like she's like a Tumblr account.

Like it's so sickening.

That's what she should have done an interview on.

Yeah.

life as a 90s fashion icon.

Yeah, that's extremely interesting to me.

Yeah, wow.

Take a trip down memory lane on Google, you guys.

Like, you will die.

Because Garcelle, obviously, we know her now.

She's like very glamorous.

But she was like doing like the perfect

understated 90s glam.

Like little makeup, little glasses, little purse, little choker, little dress.

Yeah.

It was kind of everything of the sort.

Okay, I'll go down a rabbit hole at a later date.

If you're making like a 90s mood board, make sure to include Garcelle.

Yeah.

Our fifth and final story.

Are you ready for it?

Is it um

is it the final story?

It's the final story.

It's the 90s.

It's no, it's the fast five told to you by a favorite fascist

and as a manumble

She wants her dinner

People are gonna be like they really are fascists

Oh my god, I was laughing I didn't watch yesterday's episode, but I did watch the Instagram reel I know exactly are you gonna say HRH?

No, no, I got so many comments on my TikTok like in my LaGuardia rant Oh my god when I was ever telling everyone like you're so dumb You're so stupid there everyone's like you literally are giving HRH vibes.

Oh, that's amazing.

And when I was saying it, I was like, am I HRH?

I was like, you're fucking dumb.

Like,

I felt so much like her.

I thought that's what you were going to say.

No, I was going to say when you started imitating people about the restaurants, what did you say?

I was like,

well, they have such a restaurant.

Yeah, like, no, that's what everyone says.

I was at the wedding talking to people.

And like my friend Beatrice, she literally sent me the TikTok.

She was like, smell me.

I'm like, yeah, because she was like, there's an H ⁇ H bagels.

I'm like, who fucking cares?

No, and you're right.

I don't want to lounge at the airport.

I just want to get to where I'm going.

No, and then people are like, well, it's so nice that they made it so big and nice because if you're delayed, like you have somewhere to go.

Well, why don't you work on not making it delayed and stop building bagel shops?

Work on the delays, not the place where we are going to experience

the delays.

It doesn't have to be like this, you guys.

It wasn't always like this.

It wasn't.

Don't stand for it.

Don't.

Airline strike.

We're starting it.

Yeah, why not us?

We're number two on Spotify.

By the way, why not us?

Can we talk about that?

We're still number two.

You sent that to me on Sunday.

Us and Joe.

Us and Joe, like literally the top podcasters on the planet?

And we're still number two.

I know, because breaking bread is literally like breaking the charts.

That's what it should be called.

That was, and we have another one tonight, you guys.

We do.

So here are the deets in case you missed it last time.

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Yeah.

Our fifth and final story: Brad Pitt is on the cover of GQ talking about his acting career.

He said he considers himself on his last leg.

He said, This last semester or trimester, what is the section going to be?

And how do I want to design that?

That's kind of crazy.

He is 58.

So I guess if we're going in tries,

I mean, this would be the third trimester.

It's like low-key dramatic.

Yeah.

What is with everyone today in the drama?

Yeah.

Our customers, my eczema, my last act, I'm dying.

My last act at 58.

No, this is like saying, like, does he have an illness?

It sounds like he's on his way out.

Yeah, this is a quote that will speak to you.

I'm one of those creatures that speaks through art.

I just always want to make.

If I'm not making.

Sounds like you should go to the bathroom.

Who was it?

I think it was like Kristen, our friend, who said like one of her icks is like when someone says they have to make or like about a dog having to go to the bathroom.

Ew, who the fuck says that?

You say that to kids.

No, like you have to make.

That's

like not.

We're adults.

You have to go to the bathroom, take a dump.

Or even make a duty.

Piss.

You have to make.

Yeah, it's agreed, and that's what it sounds like.

So I just want to always make.

If I'm not making, I'm dying in some way.

Honestly, now that just makes me think of of like Brad Pitt sweating, crying, screaming for help on the toilet.

Yeah.

Because he's making.

I think this is hellodramatic.

I do wonder what he will do next.

But

I don't care because he's like so handsome that he could literally work until he's 100.

Yeah, he also said that he's quit cigarettes.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah.

Cigarettes are like so big in Hollywood.

People don't talk about that a lot.

Yeah, and so is vaping, especially for some people who have quit.

I wonder if he's vaping.

I wonder if he's vaping too.

But I just feel like when we were kids, like in tabloids, like the Nicole Ritchie, Paris, Lindsay era, like they were always smoking cigarettes.

And now it's like taboo.

So we think that they don't do it anymore.

They just don't do it in public.

Like whenever I've been around celebrities, they're literally chain smoking cigarettes.

That's so interesting.

Yeah.

And you know what it makes me think of?

When the Real House I was in Beverly Hills went to Dubai and like literally Lisa Vanderpump finally got called out.

She went back to her room with Ken crying.

She started chain smoking cigarettes.

And it's like she probably does smoke cigarettes, but we've never seen it on the show.

Yeah, I think it's like now how a lot of reality stars vape and hide it.

Yes, but in the early days of Vanner Pump Rolls, they were chain smoking outside.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so in the sucker dick, Diana, she had a cigarette in her mouth.

And it's funny how, like, everyone hides smoking cigarettes or even vaping, but they don't hide smoking weed.

Yeah, well, because I think, like, you know, one could argue the list of benefits from smoking weed, and I don't think there's literally one benefit from ripping a cigarette or a vape.

Looking cool.

Forgot about that.

So true.

So those are the fast five stories.

Brad Pittis quit cigarettes.

How cool is she?

Oh my God.

I'm so cool.

If you've seen the Not Like Other Girls tour, none of this is a surprise to you.

And if you haven't seen it, I do feel sorry for you, but I won't in a few weeks.

And that's me being subtle.

We love subtle.

Let's leave it at that.

I know you're dying.

I know you're dying.

No, I was going to leave it at that.

You're keep going.

Oh, sorry.

Anyways, be cool.

Smoke is safe.

Just kidding.

I'm kidding.

No, today's, okay, let me, I feel like I have to say this now.

Everything you've heard here today is a joke.

We are not fascists.

We don't think smoking cigarettes is cool.

Kind of.

And eczema is a big deal.

Should we continue on to Deer Toasters, our weekly advice segment that we do every Wednesday?

Yeah, we should.

Are you sure?

I don't know.

I just really need to pump.

We have so much to do.

I thought maybe we could do Deer Toaster.

We have time.

We have time.

We have time.

I'll make it quick.

Okay, okay.

Sorry, guys.

Sorry.

No, like.

We're actually both filming Day in the Life vlogs, me and Claudia, competing Day in the Life Vlogs, so you'll see how, like, just, you know, frantic I am today.

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P.S.

Jackie, I just had a baby boy two weeks after you and I've been on this crazy motherhood journey right along with you, sis.

Thank you.

Oh man, you're welcome.

I'm so curious to hear what you have to say.

And now I'm thinking of it through the lens of a new mama, I've got you.

Thank you for like the pertinent context.

Extremely.

Now on to my dilemma.

My husband's parents have been happily married for almost 30 years and they live out of town.

Recently, my father-in-law came to visit my husband and I by himself for a father-son golf outing.

On our way home from dinner that evening, I was seated in the back seat behind my father-in-law while my husband was driving.

Without intending to, I looked up and oversaw my father-in-law's phone screen while he was texting.

I saw a message from him saying we had just left dinner and he wanted her for dessert, along with other messages that said something about kissing.

I immediately looked away and my first thought was, how sweet that he still sends flirty text messages to his wife.

But then something

in me made me look at his phone again, and that's when I saw the name at the top of the text thread was not his wife.

Then to solidify the pit I was feeling when we got home, he announced that he hadn't heard from his wife all evening and she must have fallen asleep.

Then he appeared to be texting on our couch for the rest of the night.

What would you do with this information?

Do I tell my husband what I saw or do I continue to mind my own damn business and not worry about it?

Please help a toaster with a pip.

This is so tough.

This is so tough.

Because you don't want to be like a snitch and you do want to mind your own business, but like and like how can you even keep this like from your husband even if you both decide not to do anything of it about it like wouldn't he want to know just even if you're you're just going to

be shook together, yeah, but then also, like, you're a woman who supports other women.

Like, would you want to know?

30 years later, he wants someone else for dessert, like, have her.

No.

I would say to dump this burden on your husband and let him decide what to do with it.

Yeah.

It's his parents.

No, but like, they've been together 30 years.

His whole life is, and he just had a new baby.

And, like, he's gonna, his whole premise is going to be off if he finds out that he's.

Well, he'll have to grow up.

He's about to be a father.

I don't think he's going to be.

Oh, he's a father.

He's a father.

I think you just swallow it and let these people, let the chips fall where they may.

It feels wrong.

And like, what if down the line something happens and like your husband says, like, you didn't tell me?

Like, he wanted, I don't think you'll ever regret telling him, but I do think you might regret not telling him.

Just your husband.

Yeah.

It would be really hard to not tell your husband and like to want to keep something from him, but also like something so big.

No, and then it's like someone else's lie becomes your lie.

And like now you're becoming

implicated in this web of lies.

Dump it on him, it's his parents, not your fucking problem.

Well, you were the one snooping, just kidding.

No, no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Uh, yeah, if you can't live with it, keeping it to yourself, no, if you can't die with it,

then you got to tell someone, yeah, and you could tell your husband and make it his problem and ruin his life, sure, yeah, ruin his life.

Like everything he thought to be good and true in this world, but at least you'll feel good.

Yeah, yeah, no, this is about you, you just had a baby.

Like, keeping the secret is like, in a lot of ways, very selfless.

Yes.

But also, I just, I don't think anyone really ever regrets telling the truth.

Of course not.

That's like the real lesson.

But also no good deed goes unpunished.

So these are conflicting ideologies.

There's also the route you could take like directly directly to your father-in-law, but like that's extremely brave.

That's exactly what?

That's extremely brave.

That's not your job.

It's not your job.

So here, you have two paths.

Which one sounds more appealing to you?

What kind of person are you?

Can you live with it?

Can you die with it?

Do you want to?

Do you think your husband could handle it?

Does he think his parents' relationship is perfect and this will literally send him into a midlife crisis?

Right, that's the thing.

Like, what is his perception of his parents?

Because, like, some people, especially those elite few whose parents have been married for 30 years, like put their parents on a pedestal.

Maybe he like puts his dad on a pedestal.

So, like, if this actually would like shake the foundation of the earth in which he walks, like, you might want to second guess telling him.

But if he's like a rational human being who's like, oh, it's nice.

My parents are still married.

I wonder wonder how they do it.

Then I think he might be able to take it.

Right, right.

But some people, especially like the older you get, you think you get more mature, but the older you get and the older, like you're, the longer your parents have been married, like it gives you like a superiority complex.

Yeah.

So what kind of man is your husband?

That's on you to decide, but either keep it to yourself or just tell your husband.

Depending on all of these things.

Good luck to you, girl.

Best wishes.

Best wishes.

Hey, girlies, long time listener, first time caller.

My son has become really good friends with a kid named Maverick, and they've been hanging out all summer break.

Your son sounds awesome.

Awesome.

So does your son's friend.

I really like Maverick, and I've always treat my kids' friends to dinner, ice cream, et cetera, if they are in my home.

Recently, whenever my son goes to Maverick's, he's been asking me for money because Maverick's parents don't treat.

Personally, I would be mortified as a parent to ask a 12-year-old for money, but I just let it go.

The other day while picking up my son, I got to talking to Maverick's mother, and she asked me about some money my son owed her.

I thought this was incredibly weird, but I just promised to Venmo her.

Do you guys think it's weird?

Should I say something to her because I pay for her son?

Please help, sincerely, a confused toaster.

That's so weird.

I mean, this isn't something I've experienced yet.

Like, so, but just the idea of a grown woman saying your son owes me money is really weird.

Yeah.

And so it does just make me,

there's always a difference between cheap, between being cheap and being poor.

And I'm not sure which scenario this is, but if she's like a mom and she's busy and she needs some money, like part of me is like, just give her the money.

But then like the petty part of me is like, okay, well, you also have to start Venmoing her.

I think the concept of asking the kid for money is very weird, but asking like later on in the week like for the mom to reimburse is less weird.

Yeah, but framing it as your kid owes me money.

No, it's bizarre.

I took the kids to get ice cream, like it was this much.

No, this is really weird, but like you really never know what like someone's financial situation is.

So like, of course, like, you know, for someone like you who sounds financially stable enough to treat the kids, you think this is crazy.

But if like someone's in a different scenario than you, but they don't have to be going out for ice cream.

They could just play like you're in the middle.

In the house.

Right.

It costs $0 to ride a bike.

Right.

And have snacks at home.

And snacks at home.

Yeah.

This is so uncomfortable.

And honestly, I have not one piece of advice.

I don't know.

I literally don't know how to navigate this.

Maybe some fellow mamas could share in the YouTube comments.

What's typically done here?

Because it's not something I've ever thought about.

Because you know what?

If the situation is like, we're not going to pay for our kids' friends, then fine.

No one's paying and then we'll all reimburse each other later on.

But then it goes against this woman's principles to ask a 12-year-old for money.

No, she wouldn't be asking the 12-year-old.

She'd be asking the mom like when she came to pick up her son.

Got it.

But it can't be one way.

It can't be, I'm paying for your kid and I'm paying for my kid too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think people with kids need to

lead it, lead the chart.

I never thought about it.

Me neither.

So.

Good luck.

I'm sorry.

What's done?

This is literally horrifying.

I have nothing to add.

No, me neither.

This is our third and final one.

Okay.

Hey, Claudia and Jackie.

Just want to start off by saying, congratulations on the new Bebe.

Claudia, congratulations on your second tour.

I saw you in Chicago, and you are the highlight of my trip.

Now let's get into it.

To give you a brief background on my situation, I'm 32 years old, and I just broke up with my boyfriend of three years.

I was heartbroken, to say the least.

But because of that, I moved out of our place together, and now I'm temporarily living at home with my mom.

Since being home, whenever I need help with some things around the house that require some heavy lifting, I always call my neighbor to see if he can help.

His name is Maverick.

It's such a popular boy name.

And I just want to say, you guys, we're not changing these names.

People are writing in exclusively using Maverick.

So she calls her neighbor Maverick to help her out.

Okay, I love it.

Hallmark movie.

Well, Maverick,

who I literally used to babysit as a kid, grew up to be the hottest man.

Of course he did.

We've recently started exchanging some flirty DMs back and forth, and let's just say there's a lot of sexual tension there.

The only issue is he's 23 and I'm 32.

And my question for you is, do I just go for it?

A part of me thinks that hooking up with his old babysitter would be his wet dream, but another part of me is like, what the fuck am I doing?

These people have been my neighbors for 30 plus years, so I don't want to get into anything awkward.

But at the same time, I'm kind of in a, I don't give a fuck mood right now.

Please help.

Signed a slightly cougary toaster.

I read this book last night.

Okay.

First of all, really recommend a part of your world.

Okay.

And she's 37 and he's 28.

And like at first, she can't get over it because it's like so disgusting.

But then like it really doesn't matter.

Yeah, but also 37, 28 is different.

A 28 year old male is very different from a 23 year old male.

Those five years are critical.

Yeah.

And as much as I'm usually like throw caution to the wind, like just fucking do it.

23 is like a little young.

And that plus, like, you need the help around the house.

Like, you don't want to make things awkward.

And like, this is a 30-year neighborly friendship.

Like, is it worth all the benefit, losing those benefits if things get awkward?

Yeah, I'm thinking no.

I'm thinking no, too.

Even though I'm always like, yeah, just fucking do it.

I know people are going to be like, just do it.

YOLO, you know, caution to the wind.

And you're in this season of your life.

But like,

a handyman is really hard to come by.

No, and there are like 25-year-olds who don't live next door to you.

Yeah.

Like, if you're feeling cougary, that I'm like, yeah, fucking do it.

If not now, when it's not because he's 23, it's because, like, you have no intention of anything serious with him.

And, like, you need his help.

No, but it's also a little because he's 23.

Like, it's just a little too close.

Well, if he were older, I'd be like, well, get married.

If he's 25, something about 23 is like a little too close to college.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And there's no potential for a relationship because he's so young.

I was ready for this to be like the hallmark movie.

The happy ending end of your story.

But I'm going to say no.

I'm going to say no.

I think you'll regret doing it.

You actually might regret also not doing it.

But just if you're looking to go fuck someone else who's like young, go.

Go love that journey for you.

I'm sure there's an app for that.

Yeah.

Cougarlicious.com.

You should have meant it.

Huh?

All right, well, that's our show.

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No, actually,

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Yeah.

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