S5 Ep62: Looking For a F*ck To Give with Austen Kroll: Wednesday, May 18th, 2022

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy hump day!

It is Wednesday here at the morning toast, and you know what that means.

We're getting frisky.

We're humping some boys that we love.

Yes, if you're watching on YouTube, you are seeing, it's not a mirage, it really is Bryce and Thrice in the flesh.

In the flesh.

We have these little cute dog pillows, and they are so lifelike, and I just can't get over it.

They spark so much joy.

If you're looking for a gift for someone, like this is the gift that keeps on giving.

Every day, walk into the studio, and I have a smile on my face because the image of Bryce Bryce is among us.

100%.

Happy Wednesday, Jackson.

I'm during good.

We should actually bring Bryce and Dyson here.

They've never been here together.

Like we should do a chaotic episode.

A chaotic episode with them boys.

We're due for a chaotic episode.

Maybe like at the end of a long week when there's like not much to talk about, maybe you're hungover.

Like that's the vibe.

I mean, I'm so down.

I guess I could have a drink for the sake of our work.

For the sake of this show.

Yeah.

I'm doing good.

We have such a busy day today.

We had a very busy day yesterday.

We recorded an interview with Austin Kroll.

Let's talk about it.

And we need to talk about it.

Jackie wants to give this, our culture, a stern talking too.

I need to give the comments on our Instagram post a stern talking too.

So before you do that, let's just say.

Austin's interview was on our podcast today, but if you're a YouTube subscriber, you caught it early yesterday.

So a lot of people have seen the interview already.

If you haven't and you're listening as a podcast, feel free to just continue listening.

And if you have, you want to watch it, it's up on our YouTube channel.

When we announced it on our Instagram yesterday, the comments were ablaze.

Like we were.

Everyone's like, no, no, no.

No, like, we were literally having like Casey Anthony on our show.

Like,

so disappointed.

Like, what?

Who?

I'm like, did Austin murder someone?

Like, I didn't know that.

Who would think that he did?

It's so crazy.

So, first of all, the interview was really enjoyable.

And this was our first time having him on the show.

And I just really enjoyed our conversation.

And we talked a lot about, you know, what happened on Summerhouse.

And the more that we talked about it, I was like,

this is a TV show.

Right.

This man had a bad weekend.

He acted a fool, disrespectfully, sure, but like not the biggest steal ever.

And like the comments, you guys, like, hopefully, you're just like saying it and like not really having a like.

Like, you don't actually feel

too much, like, invested in the situation.

Like, if you do, like, put your phone down, go outside, take a walk.

It's not good for your mental health.

And honestly, it was really shocking to see.

And I think that's why, like, Austin took the interview really seriously.

I'm like, just chill.

Like, okay, you were a little rude to Sierra, but you did apologize.

And it's like, you didn't kill Sierra.

Like,

you just made out with your friend.

Like, I was like, what?

What are we missing?

I was shook at the backlash.

And that's how you know, like, backlash culture has gotten so out of control.

So out of control.

So, I think as a group, like, we just need to zoom out of the situation and take a breath.

Just relax.

And watch the interview because it's really great.

And Claudia and I spoke after the show.

We were FaceTiming.

And we have to say, like, he is not the Honda Simpson of male attractiveness.

He is a Range Rover.

He is so handsome, so tall, smells so good.

I'm sorry, like, you just don't get to where you get by being a Honda Civic.

Like, he is that.

Like, he is what people think.

Like, he is.

Yeah, he is.

He has that presence about him.

He has that, like, star quality gina sequa.

Yeah.

So it was nice to, you know, suss it out for ourselves and evaluate.

And we decided that he is a Range Rover.

He's a Range Rover for sure.

So everyone just calm down, watch the interview.

It's good.

We also got like good Southern Charm tea.

We were talking about, you know, the Patricia of it all.

So there's a lot of good stuff in there.

Again, if you're listening as a podcast, just keep listening.

And if you want to watch it as a video, head over to our YouTube channel.

And please, like, fucking subscribe, okay?

Claudia's really trying to get subscribers these days.

Because when you get a hundred thousand subscribers, you get that YouTube plaque.

You guys subscribe.

And I want it.

And we're at 80, and we've like because people just tune in, they don't subscribe because we're not like one of those channels where it's like clickbaity.

Like we just are consistent queens.

And it's like, you know, you'll get a video every day, so like, you don't need to just subscribe and like get alerted.

Get alerted.

Whereas other people, like, when are they going to drop their videos?

Who knows?

So, seriously, can you guys just fucking subscribe already so we can get our plaques?

And also,

do we get two plaques?

Like, we better, like, not just get one.

We better.

But if we only get one, I'll let you keep it.

No, we'll have it in the studio.

Yeah, we'll put it right there.

Also, if you listen to the podcast, just go subscribe.

I know everyone has a YouTube account because it's like connected to your Gmail.

So, like, they won't bother you.

Just subscribe, even if you don't watch on YouTube.

Yeah, that's why I've been like so annoying about that.

Okay, now it makes sense.

I want a plaque.

Now it makes sense because in the caption you wrote yesterday, you were being like so like Nazi.

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and now it makes sense so thank you for enlightening you think I'm gonna get backlash for that Nazi thing I just said

you never know Austin got I would say no but after the comments it's true but I'm Jewish so I feel like I can really say whatever I want in that department in some regards yes um so we've got a great show for you guys today it's Wednesday which of course means dear toasters so I also just wanted to say something um we were going through the emails this morning

of um like dear toaster submissions, and you would be surprised how many people write in and then write a follow-up, like, please don't read this, I changed my mind.

Oh, wow.

So, I just want to let you guys know: we do see your follow-up emails, and we will not read something that you have redacted.

Some cold-footed queens.

Yeah, it's typically more about like serious topics than, like, you know, my bridesmaid is annoying me.

So, I get it, but I just wanted to put everyone, I feel like there's people like who tune in every Wednesdays being like, Please don't read mine, please don't read mine.

And if you write us redacting, we will redact.

Okay, very interesting.

I had no idea.

Yeah.

Okay.

Also, we need to read Capriol Houses houses of New Jersey.

The third and final part of the reunion was last night.

The most heated part.

Lots to discuss.

Really good.

Really good.

I very much enjoyed it, and I have many thoughts.

So we will do all that with some mediocre stories, as we always do.

I'm feeling good about the stories.

There's a lot of different ways we can take them, which is all I'm looking for with stories.

They are, you know, a loose framework for us just talking about ourselves.

It's a good news kind of day.

It is a good news, good, interesting news sort of day.

Nothing pressing, nothing Kardashian, everyone.

Like, calm down.

You can take a breath.

and but I don't even want to go down this road just like everyone talking about how we talk about them too much like I'm sorry if Courtney gets married we have to talk about it if kids have a cover of SI we have to talk about it 100%

100% 100%

and I guess we could get into everything because we have tons to do I guess I don't know, you seem RDH.

No, no, no.

I'm just like, what else do I want to talk about before I am forced to talk about other people, you know?

Yeah.

I had such a crazy dream last night that like really shook the foundation of my life, you know?

I'm not going to share it.

I had a crazy dream last night too, but you know it's bottom of the barrel conversation topics when we're talking about our dreams.

No, and sometimes dreams are like extremely telling of like something you're going through.

So we really shouldn't be sharing our dreams because someone could read into our subconscious and be like, hmm.

Now I know what she's all about.

Right.

100%.

That's what I said because I was reading a book or two on like...

therapy like good morning monster and the therapist like wants to know what the patient's dreams are so she can understand what they're actually thinking and feeling and it's like oh shit i'm never telling you guys my dreams again even though I never did before because I think it's boring as fuck.

Do you have any recurring dreams like over the years?

No, not recurring dreams, but like recurring things that happen.

Themes.

Yeah, me too.

Like I'm in a car and the brakes don't work.

Oh, I'm trying to run and my legs are slow.

Oh, okay.

I have.

We're giving away too much of ourselves.

I have, like, I'm trying to like fight someone and like I physically can't land a punch.

I have that too.

Also, like this.

Also, of course, like screaming and nothing comes out.

Oh, I don't really have that much one so much.

And then also, I've told Ben about this, like for years, like ever since I was a kid, I've had like a dream every couple of years about this, like, I don't even know what it is.

It's like a hotel.

It's like a theater.

It's like this rose gold.

It's like this beautiful place.

And like, I'll see it in my dreams, like, once every five or 10 years, literally.

So interesting.

And like, all I want to do is get back there because it's like this gorgeous place.

And for some reason, there's like a childhood association.

There's like an element of nostalgia there.

I can't figure out, I can't put my finger in the dream like where I am, but it's like a a place I've known forever.

I honestly, like, I feel like, honestly, I sometimes think I'm like clairvoyant and I think that like I'm entering heaven.

Like I'm sleeping so deep I might die.

Then that's clairvoyant.

How?

Because I'm being shown the afterlife.

Oh, yeah.

And it's glorious.

It's stunning.

That's why I have to behave here on earth so I can get there.

That's really I think that's maybe like God's way of like keeping me on track, like showing me a little bit of what I could get if I continue to be a good person.

Okay, so let's be good people today.

I'll try.

It'll be easy with these stories.

No promise.

Nothing crazy.

Yeah, today will be easy.

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We're covering all stages of life here at the Morning Toast.

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Are you ready for our first story?

Some

good charity news.

Finally.

Evan Spiegel and Miranda Kerr pay off student loans for Otis College's graduating class.

Evan Spiegel, the co-founder of Snapchat and his wife Miranda Kerr, the model and entrepreneur, are paying off the student loans for Otis College of Art and Design's 2022 graduating class.

They said, we know that for most of you and your families, the shared burden of student debt is a heavy price that you pay for an exceptional Otis education.

I'm sorry, that's what the president of the school said.

We understand that this debt can compromise your future and limit your creative ambitions.

We do not want to see this happen.

He goes on to announce that the school was given the largest gift in the history of Otis College through the Spiegel Family Fund.

Their gift will enable you to repay your student loans, he said, which was met with cheers and a standing ovation.

Oh my god, the kids were quaking.

If you haven't seen the video, it's the cutest thing.

The kids at the graduation ceremony like had no idea that this was coming, so it was like sprung on them and they were like screaming.

They were all like looking around like, is this real?

That's so awesome.

So Evan and Miranda, they weren't like the keynote speakers or anything.

I don't know.

They were just, they were there.

I don't know what their...

position was but they were there for whatever reason maybe evan spoke he attended a high school program at otis college when he was 15 years old oh how cute and he said that the program was tough and it made him a better designer oh my god I love this story for a million reasons one one of my favorite like celebrity fairy tale endings is that of Miranda Kerr like so random um but I love it like she just she had such a sickening career as a model and then like one day just

had a fairy tale happy ending like

businessman Bo.

Like what literally what's better than that?

Businessman Bo.

And he is one of the more handsome billionaires.

Extremely handsome, like beyond, and like got successful really young.

So like has always been like really rich and young and handsome.

Yeah.

So I love that journey for her.

And I love this concept.

Like of course, so many celebrities do charity, but I think there's like a special, like paying off student loans is like a special type of charity because it's like, you're literally like cleaning someone's slate for their future.

That's like, just like the night, it's like such a nice financial gift, but also like the emotional

baggage that comes with student loans.

Like you're just like wiping that slate clean for people and it's so nice.

Yeah.

And and plenty of celebrities billionaires do donate to charity but it's hard when you donate to an organization say like it's hard to see the immediate impact on like individual people

and it's awesome to just see like these kids they're immediately affected and their you know current status of their lives are changing how much do you think it was

I thought you said it was, oh no, I don't know.

No, they just said it was the largest sum.

They're so classy.

They didn't say how much.

But like, let's guess.

Can you Google how many

students?

Graduated.

Okay.

From Otis.

And then then they said 90% of the students carry student loans.

Otis graduating class size.

It's like a small school, I believe.

So

Otis said it has a total undergraduate enrollment of 1,030.

So divide that by 4.

Oh.

So like

250 and then 90% of 250.

Which is what?

Like.

Let me go to 230.

Calculator app.

225.

225.

So then, what do you think the average student loan payment is?

Like $10,000, maybe more?

Well, let's go to tuition.

Well, and it compounds like over the years.

That's why people end up with so much more debt because it literally sets you up

for financial failure.

It's $50,000 to go to Otis.

Yeah, but if you're on financial aid or you have a loan, like

it might not be for the whole tuition.

Let's just say, for argument's sake, $50,000 times what?

Oh, yeah, no, it's definitely not for the whole tuition.

Right.

Times $235,

how much did I say?

225 no but if 50,000 that's one year

oh my gosh right calculator is like thirsty oh this is adding up this is adding up it's

200,000 times 225 225

45 million

but that's at assuming everybody had a hundred percent whole tuition yeah right wow wow I don't think they donated that much no let's well when we were first doing the math I was like so they donated twenty thousand dollars

Let's call it 20 mil.

That is so generous, and it's like, obviously, I said this already, but like, it's so generous money-wise, but also, like, what they're doing for this generation, it's just like it's amazing.

I love, I love these two.

Like, they're one of my favorite low-key celebrity couples, and now, like, and in the video, like, when the kids start screaming, they cut to Miranda and Evan, they just like look at each other and smile.

It is the cutest thing, and this is just a good news story all around.

I love

some good news to kick off the day.

I think that's what we all needed, you know?

Now, are you ready for our next story, which is some funny news?

Sure.

Cardi B is showing how she changes diapers with her claw-like nails.

Such a good question.

I, of course, have wondered.

Okay, so she made a video of her changing a diaper on a teddy bear.

She said, okay, girls, so I just made a whole video.

Trust me, you will get the hang of it.

However, I do feel like boys are harder to clean.

They got more crevices.

100%.

They definitely have more crevices, but it's really crazy that she's changing diapers with these nails because even my nails, like right,

this all started like in the last few weeks, like the hair loss and the nails.

The nails, they were so strong.

And so I didn't want to cut them because they were so long.

I've never had such long nails in my life.

But I'm also trying to change diapers and there's like you know decetin under my nails.

I recently did get a spatula, a diaper spatula, which like seems like one of those nonsense tools.

So it's a spatula you put the cream on and then you put the cream on the tissue?

Yeah, so your fingers like don't need to interact and it is very useful.

It's not like some useless thing.

Well, I think people probably assume that Cardi B didn't even change diapers because she's like so rich she had someone doing it for her.

So I love that she's just like still one of us.

Yeah.

And there are these girls on TikTok who have like crazy long nails and they make videos like, here's how I put in chapstick.

Here's how I open a can.

And so there is like these fecocta ways of doing things when you have really long nails.

I just don't know why he would make your life harder.

Like life is so hard.

Life is so hard and having short trimmed nails just, how do you type on your phone how do you pick your nose even when my nails are really long actually i feel like you can it depends on the nail length no if you have like a nice little like

centimeter tip it's really good for scooping out boogers for sure but i'm talking about like acrylics like seriously how do you scoop out your boogers

of course you could cause a nosebleed yeah a sinus infection and when you have so much like when you have really long nails there's so much surface area for your undernail and then it like gets like smelly yeah i'm watching this video of her do the diaper and she really has great technique she's so funny she's like one of my favorite celebs and she's always, always keeping it real.

So even in motherhood, she's just a regular girl.

A regular girl, but still those nails take a break.

No, no, I agree.

Especially like, okay, I feel like she has been doing so many.

She used to have those nails.

Yeah, but I don't have a child.

But you used to have like long ass nails.

I used to do acrylics, probably like half an inch.

Yeah, Olivia too.

Remember, Olivia used to do like the claws.

Yeah.

It's really fun.

And by the way, it makes your hand look so like sexy and skinny.

And you could talk with attitude.

It's a little annoying for like remenial things, but if you don't have a child, like, it's not

to the point where, like, you can't wipe your ass.

Those types of acrylics, but really, really long ones that are like two inches long, maybe longer, like, you, like, literally, how do you wipe your ass?

I don't know.

That's good.

This girl on TikTok showed how she wiped her ass.

Like, she was obviously using like a

she was using, she was wearing like biker shorts.

Oh, cute.

And it's just like you could do it, but it's just harder.

So, I just, I can't understand making life harder because I already have such trouble, you know, just getting out of bed.

Agreed.

Agreed.

And I think Cardi B sometimes wears ones with like charms.

So that's just like an added layer.

Like, girl, it's okay.

I feel like she's been doing a lot of public appearances.

Like, you could take your nails off.

Like, when you're in the comfort of your own home.

Yeah.

My nails are shorties right now.

I don't even want to talk about my nails.

Let me see.

Why do you have such like nail problems?

Problems.

Oh, because your local place closed.

My local nail salon closed.

And even when it was open, like I find getting a manicure to me the most

like exhausting task.

Like, I don't find it enjoyable.

I don't, it's not like a thing where I like treat myself.

It's not luxurious.

I find it just to be like exhausting and so like tedious.

So, I don't go.

And so, then I'll get a gel manicure like every couple of months because I'm literally so lazy.

And then the gel will like grow out and I'll peel it off, which ruins the quality of your nails.

And then I have an event or a show or something, a trip.

So, I put on my press-ons, which is so bad for your nails.

So, I'm in this like disgusting cycle where I just can't get healthy, clean, beautiful nails.

So, right now, like, I don't even wanna show you.

They're disgusting.

Well, I used to feel that way about getting manicares too.

Like, it's a chore, but now it's like an hour of

the day of the week that's like just for me to pamper myself.

And now I see it differently.

So maybe you should have a baby and then you'll enjoy getting manicures again.

Okay, you just can't use that for everything, Jackie.

It's just every time you complain about like something in your life, I'm like, having a child or being pregnant would solve this for you.

And it would help your nails grow.

But think about all the other problems I would have if I was pregnant.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All the other problems.

Harpburn.

Harpburn.

The heartburn for me was.

And do you have heartburn like as a normie?

No.

No.

I do.

But here's the thing.

Oh, and I meant to mention this when we did our

birth story episode.

And I don't know if I ever did.

I had really bad heartburn.

throughout my pregnancy and at the end specifically and I had horrible heartburn while I was pushing.

But you can't take like a tum?

I could, but I thought it was like, I thought that since the baby was like moving down, like it was going to, I just didn't evaluate it.

And so I wish I brought tumbs.

Oh, I did tell the story because I had to take some antacid that was.

But But you were disgusting.

I was going to say, you're literally in a hospital.

Just asking me.

Speaking of something.

It was

lighter fluid.

It was disgusting.

It was like chewable.

No, a drink.

Ew.

It was.

awful.

And then I did have a little bit of heartburn for like one to two days after, but now I'm like back to how I was before, which is heartburn is not something that I suffer from.

Oh my God.

I'm telling you, I don't know if heartburn is contagious, but I only started getting it when I met Ben.

Cause like I'll never forget, I was in Ben's car, which is like his family car, and they're just like a heartburn family.

So

Ben opens up the middle console to this tub of tums.

And I'm like, what?

I'm like, I've seen commercials for tums.

I'm like, I had no idea.

I'm like, what is that?

He's like, for heartburn.

He's like, you want one?

I'm like, no.

He's like, try it.

They're actually like, they're like smoothie flavored.

I'm like, oh, okay.

And I'm telling you, I just like took a tum randomly.

That gave me heartburn for the rest of my life.

Activated.

Now I'm like, thank God for Ben's family.

Whenever we're in the car, I'm like, where is the tub of tums?

But they also started this for you.

No, I know.

Vicious cycle.

Vicious cycle.

But like, I really get it bad when I'm hungover because I pretty much exclusively drink margaritas, which are really acidic and cause heartburn.

Makes sense.

Yep, so that's just your little fun fact about me.

Are you ready for our next story?

Sure.

Story.

Story.

Karma Electra is joining OnlyFans.

Carmen Electra has launched her OnlyFans account.

The former Baywatch Babe will provide members with exclusive access to fun, edgy, and playful content.

The 90 sex symbol was inspired to reconnect with her fan base after she turned 50 in April and is looking forward to this new celebratory chapter of her life.

Ahead of the release, she released a steamy photo of herself lying in bed and teased, Wednesday, I have a huge announcement, only for my fans.

Are you a fan?

Because it's OnlyFans.

What's wrong?

Oh, I'm just looking for a fuck to give.

Like, I literally don't fucking care.

Like, it's crazy.

I was like, when you were saying the story, I'm like, let's think of something funny to say.

And I'm like, no, you know what?

I literally don't care.

Sorry.

Savage?

Plus, I ran the story spy.

No, I know.

And like, I guess it is interesting.

Like, because this is like the new age of sex symbolism, and she was like that bitch, and now she's continuing.

And I get it.

It's like the old and the new.

Don't care.

Okay.

Yeah, no, like, I agree.

I do agree.

I probably wouldn't have been.

Like, I can't even think of something funny to say.

Like, I probably wouldn't have been as sorry.

But sure, yeah, I don't give a fuck.

Yeah, I literally don't give a flying fuck.

Do you think she'll have success?

Like, do you think all of the old people who used to have her poster on her wall are like going to be?

I don't know.

Cause like those people are now like, you know, husbands.

Like,

I don't know.

I really, I have no idea if this is going to be success.

I'm not going to be a flop, but like, I don't think she's going to be breaking records.

Cause like it's just a really weird platform.

Like, the people who make so much money are people you've never heard of.

Bad baby.

Bahad Bahabi, right?

Yeah.

Like the top creators on there, like, you've literally never heard their names before.

Yeah.

Okay.

So like love, we love women in business.

We do.

But like, I just,

I don't care.

Okay.

I think that's really fair.

Yeah.

I think it's a fair assessment of this story.

Yeah.

And we can move on to the next one, which I really care about.

Okay.

Which is that the Yellowstone prequel, 1932, has cast Helen Mirren and Harrison Ford.

So we spoke about a while ago how 1883

was not getting renewed for a second season.

That's because it was like a one-time show and now the next show is 1932.

So we're still following the Dutton family throughout history, but now we're going straight to 1932 and Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren will star as the new generation of Duttons.

Thoughts?

I don't really have any since I don't watch the show.

You don't watch Yellowstone?

No, I know.

And it's going to be one of those things in like five years.

I will leave it.

And I'm not listening.

And you're not,

and you're not allowed to recap on the show.

I will watch it and be like, Jackie, you are so right.

Like how I did with Downton Adams.

Claudia.

How I did with the Kindle.

I know.

Claudia.

I know it's in my future.

I'm just not there yet.

Okay, but I'm just letting you know, like, Because you won't listen to me right now, like, you're not allowed to like recap it in the TV recap.

Like, you have to keep it to yourself.

No, we're going to watch this in like five years.

Oh, five years for me.

Hope you're doing well.

Hope you're taking care of that rash.

And I love you.

Five years for me.

Like hope you're doing great.

Hope you've lost some of this weight and that your hair comes back.

Totally.

No, the hair loss, it's like just starting.

Like I don't even know how bad it's going to get.

No, I know.

Like I kind of feel like a bald moment for you would be sickening.

Well, if it does get really bad, I will also just cut it shorter to make it healthier.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's my answer for everything.

Just cut your hair.

Totally.

Feeling low, cut your hair.

No, don't.

Looking basic, cut your hair.

Looking basic, cut your hair for sure.

Yeah.

What are my thoughts on this?

What was the year?

1932.

You know, I feel like we spoke about this with Downton Abbey.

Like, when we do like old-timey pieces, whenever we get to like the 1930s, I'm like,

I can only think about the Holocaust, you know?

Yeah.

Oh, you, yeah, you measure like history in terms of the Holocaust.

That's how I personally measure shit.

So like in Downton Abbey, what are we up to?

Like 1921?

1927 was the first movie.

So we probably won't get there, but I'm always thinking, and like England was like, you know, in Europe.

So I'm always thinking about that.

So

1932 is like Great Depression in America.

Right.

And Dust Bowl for the Midwest.

What the fuck is Dust Bowl?

Like.

I read this book, The Four Winds, which is about it, but it's like in the Midwest, there was like all of these different like agricultural and environmental circumstances that made it.

So there was like a horrible drought and the whole like plains were incredibly dusty and they would get these horrible like they couldn't they wasn't growing crops it was like famine the land was barren and there were these horrible dust storms and why doesn't that happen anymore um because first of all they were over farming the land and really like abusing it and so it wasn't regenerating plus there was this combination of drought and now there are better like uh farming practices so that we don't you know got it and i guess like where some of those like dusty plains were like now there's like buildings on, right?

Perhaps.

I mean, I'm sure it could get dusty again, but it was just there was so much prosperous.

It was like, and it was also at the time of the depression, so there was like no resources, less resources, etc.

So, do you think 1933 will cover the Dust Bowl?

I think it should because I do believe they're in Montana.

So, this would make Harrison Ford like

Kevin Costner's what, like, great-grandfather?

Uh,

if Kevin Costner was like born in the 50s, this would be his father, then, right?

20.

Or no, no, no, maybe grandfather.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

His grandfather, probably.

Hot family.

Yeah.

I love Harrison Ford.

I love Harrison Ford.

Obviously, not for the reasons.

I can't name my son after him.

Literally.

Not for the reasons one might think, like, never seen Indiana Jones, but I have seen Indiana Joni.

But I'm much more, I'm interested in Harrison's late work, like Morning Glory.

Yeah, agreed.

No, when I was thinking about naming my son Harrison, like Harrison Ford being himself, was it definitely a motivating factor.

A pro.

A pro for you.

No, you always compare, like, when you're thinking of babies, like, to the most famous person with that name, you know?

Yeah.

And when I would see his name, I'm like, okay, this sparks joy.

Yeah.

Totally.

And Helen Mirin, always a queen.

Queen, yeah.

But like, these are some, those are two really big names.

No, for TV, like, remember back in the day, like, you.

And for, like, Paramount.

Yeah, but it's, like, literally the most watched show on TV.

It's the most watched show on TV.

Yeah, I just remember the times where like being on TV was like embarrassing if you were like a movie star.

And once you made it to the movies, you would never go back to the small screen.

And now it's like there's more money in television.

TV is just better than movies these days.

And more people are watching TV than are watching movies.

So, like, you actually want to be famous, like, get in a TV show.

Queens Gambit.

Yeah.

I miss Queen's Gambit.

I know.

That was so, like, we haven't had a show like that in so long.

I know.

You know what?

I'm waiting

up next on my content plate, but like, I, I don't want to watch when I'm like feeling flicklemp.

Like, I want to watch on like a rainy Sunday, you know,

conversations with Friends, which is like normal people, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to watch out.

Because Joe Alwyn is in it.

I didn't like normal people the show.

I didn't like normal people, the book.

I didn't read the book.

I like normal people.

I don't like Sally Rooney, the author.

I won't be watching Conversations with Friends.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

That's my thought.

She's taking a stance.

I'm taking a stance.

You know me.

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Now, our fifth and final story: Social Security Administration annually tracks the names given to boys and girls in each state.

Oh my god, I was like, since what?

We're talking about Social Security.

Since the year 1880, and now the data for the top baby names for boys and girls has emerged.

And the proof is that we are influential queens.

The headline here is that the name Theodore has entered the top 10 names for boys for the first time.

I wonder why.

I'm shocked.

I wonder why.

Okay, are you ready for the names?

Yeah.

I find this shit so interesting even before I was trying to name a baby.

I agree.

For boys, number one.

Because it's like, you know, it's kind of like how Barbara.

You know what?

I don't even want to continue my dumb sentence.

Just go.

Yeah, no, like the names, the top names of today are going to be like dated.

Right, like we're going to have like a million, whatever the equivalent of like the Barbara was, because I'm sure 15 years ago we were sitting here on our podcast, like, Barbara.

Top baby names.

Like when I was looking for baby names, I looked at top baby names through every decade of the last 100 years.

And, like, yeah, in the 70s, they're all Susan.

Right, right.

Diane.

Baby boy names.

But for boys, by the way, it does feel like there's less trends for boys.

There's some names here, but like there are, I feel like the boys' names, and especially in naming a boy versus a girl.

Bob and Will.

Yeah, like William is probably top then, top now.

It is top now.

It is?

Number one, Liam.

That's so trendy.

It's a little trendy, but it is beautiful.

Number two, Noah.

You want to be a little bit more.

Love biblical.

Biblical, yeah.

Biblical is forever.

I love the name Noah.

It's just everyone's naming their kid Noah right now.

I know.

And then your kid will have like five other Noah's in the class.

That's like how Ben was like one of like 55 Ben's in his class.

Yeah, but it's still top 10.

Three, Oliver.

So cute, sweet.

I guess it could be trendy, but like, I don't know, the Broadway play.

That's like an old play.

Oliver Twist.

He's a classic guy.

That's what I meant.

Four, Elijah.

Biblical.

Five, James.

I like James.

Yeah, it's not going anywhere.

Six, William, not going anywhere.

Gorgeous.

Seven, Benjamin.

Not going anywhere.

Eight, Lucas.

Biblical, New Testament.

Oh, interesting.

I think, I don't know, by the way, I have no clue if that's true or not, but like I'm always seeing people's Instagram bios like Lucas 27.5.

Be kind to others.

That's beautiful.

She's a Christian queen.

Nine.

That was not me mocking Christianity.

It was a joke.

Nine, Henry.

Love the name.

We were going like maybe Henry or Harry.

Yeah.

Henry, it would probably be my number one was Harry, number two was Wolf, number three was Henry.

I love the name Henry like so much.

Thank God I didn't name my kid Wolf.

And then she changed it.

No, totally.

What do you think she's naming?

We still don't know.

And honestly, like, I'm at the point now where I truly don't care.

I love this journey for her, Kylie.

Take all the time that you need.

It's so important when you name a child, and we're in no rush.

Maybe William.

Maybe William or maybe Theodore.

I would, I would simply pass away.

Theodore is such a gorgeous name.

It's like, you know, it plagues me that I gave Theo, my dog, the name Theo because he's such a Theo, don't get me wrong, and he's such a blessing.

But it's such a gorgeous human name.

Human name.

Yeah.

But he's here to go.

Is it so weird to have a dog and a son named Theo?

No, I personally would vote for it.

I think it's so cute.

Totally.

Okay, are you ready for our top baby names for girls?

More interesting, yes.

Number one, Olivia.

She's been on the top of that list.

I fucking hate Olivia.

I'm so jealous of her name.

Like, she is like, you say this all the time.

It's so true.

I've never met an Olivia who isn't just like absolutely everything of the sort, top of her field, top of her class, beautiful.

Like, Olivia is such a good name.

And I feel like in movies and books, whenever there's a character named Olivia, it's like, she's the best one.

Yeah, and it's also Shakespearean, so it's really not going anywhere.

It's a gorgeous name.

And I'm happy for my sister, Olivia, obviously, but you know, slightly jealous.

I don't love my name.

You're such a Claudia.

I am.

What does that even mean?

I like your name.

I think your name is like unique, but also

classic.

I don't know.

It just doesn't feel like me.

First of all, I'm not Latin, and like everyone thinks I'm Latin.

Oh, interesting.

Which I'm not.

So it just is not like an accurate reflection of my culture.

And like, I don't know.

I guess because there's really not a lot of famous Claudias, except for me,

which I guess is good.

I guess it's good.

Like, you know, on famousbirthdays.com, I'm probably like the third most famous Claudia, which is like being, you know, like

the

smartest person at Harvard.

Like it's like irrelevant, but you know, like it counts.

Yeah.

No, not the smartest person I've ever seen.

I know, I know, I know.

I know.

I like your name.

Now, when I think about it, like, too in-depth, now I'm like questioning this.

Like, Ben never calls me Claudia.

Like, if he ever did, I would literally look over my shoulder and be like, what does he call you?

Who are you talking to?

Claude.

Moof.

Oh.

Big mama.

Moof, bitch.

Yeah.

Get out the way.

Get out the the way.

Baby, bitch.

What does he call me?

Crunch.

Crunch.

Wait, let me think.

Hold on.

He does when he's trying to get my attention.

He calls me Claude.

Okay.

Which is just like, I feel weird.

Like, that's not me.

What do you call him?

Pops.

Like, if you're like meeting a Diet Coke.

Pops.

Got it.

Give me LaCroix.

I think my toxic trait is that I call my husband babe.

It's so.

Honestly, when I'm around you guys and you're calling each other babe, I'm like, get

me, babe.

Yes.

Well, so I probably uttered the word babe a hundred times a day, but now, and I feel like I'm always hollering, babe, babe, babe.

And then I hear myself and then I'll switch to Zach, Zach, Zach.

And now I'm calling him Zach more because babe isn't getting his attention.

I hate babe.

I'm like, in books, when it's like, hey, babe, I like cringe to death.

I just want you guys to know, I never say, hey, babe.

No, it's like, get a room.

I'm like, babe, can you just grab that?

You know what's a hey, babe?

You're like, babe, will you give me a trash bag?

Yeah, no, it's really weird and not congruent with who I am.

It's not you at all.

It's not me at all.

I think Zach started calling you babe first, so you, but there's also something like extremely cool about it.

Like if you can pull it off, like I could just see, you know, like Austin Butler calling Kyogre, hey, babe, you want to go get a green juice?

Yeah.

You know?

No, it's very odd, but I've become much more aware of it and it's starting to change.

But for the last six years, I have been calling him babe.

Yeah, you have.

Yeah.

Okay, ready for number two girl name?

Oh my god, yeah.

Used to be number one, Emma.

I didn't know it was so popular.

Pretty name.

I think I actually remember a couple years ago us talking about this story and Emma being number one.

And I honestly really believe it had to do with the fact that Ross and Rachel named their baby Emma because it was like that show was like such a big like influence on that 90s generation.

Yeah.

So I really I know that sounds crazy, but I do believe it.

No, I believe it too.

Things like that can really influence names.

Like the female name

Arya is becoming really popular.

And when Hannah Montana was on the name Miley became like so much more popular.

Yeah.

Because it's like not a name.

Yeah.

It's like, it's only her name.

Right.

Number three, Charlotte, gorgeous.

Oh my God.

I wish,

like, I could never have been named Charlotte.

Do you know what I mean?

I'm not a Charlotte.

So sad because I'm not elegant, but like, I would have loved to have been a Charlotte.

You would have loved to have been elegant, right?

Four, Amelia.

Cute.

Five, Ava.

I love the name, Ava.

That's my

mother-in-law's name.

It's a gorgeous name.

It's a gorgeous name.

It's also a pelandrum.

What's that thing called?

Yeah.

Pelandrum.

Oh,

pelindrum.

Number six, Sophia.

Not with an F, but still good.

I love that name.

Is Sophia on there?

No.

Maybe she's further down, or maybe they just put them all together.

Yeah.

Number seven, Isabella, gorgeous.

Love.

Eight, Mia.

Mia Ham.

Yeah.

Nine, Evelyn, your girly from the Laker store.

Evie.

Also, Hugo.

Cute.

Ten, Harper.

That's trendy.

Yeah.

Very interesting.

There's not a lot of biblical girl names on there.

No, because I do think that parents get trendier with girls and more traditional with boys.

Yeah.

Which is just like stereotypical gender roles reinforcing themselves.

You hate to see it.

Do you?

I don't know.

Like,

even when I was thinking of names, actually, I'm traditional all the way, but I would definitely, if I was ever going to go funky, it would be for a girl, not for a boy.

Yeah, like Sandrine.

Like Sandrine.

Yeah.

Honestly, I make so many jokes about Sandrine.

I might name my daughter it one day.

Who is she again?

She's from Friends.

They're going back and forth.

It's actually, you, okay, I know you hate Friends, but Ross and Rachel.

I hate the show, Friends, but I like the premises of the episodes.

So Ross and Rachel are having a baby, and they're like not together.

They just slept together one night.

Spoiler alert.

And they're having a baby and they're like doing it together, but they like, they like hate each other because they're like not a couple.

So they're going back and forth on names.

Ross is very like,

he wants to name his kid Darwin, like really like manly.

They don't know what they're having yet.

And Rachel is like Sandrine.

Rain.

And so the whole episode is them going back and forth.

And they end up really liking the name Ruth.

So when Ross had a baby first season, he really wanted the name.

okay it's so funny he really you know his name is Ross Geller yeah and he wanted the name Helen

got it Helen Geller yeah and then he wanted Ruth and Rachel was like oh that's disgusting but then she really came around and like after the whole episode they're like okay we're gonna go with Ruth we're gonna have ourselves a little baby Ruth

the candy yeah and then they decided not to do it you have to watch it you have to watch it okay

such a good episode such a good episode sure oh and then like Phoebe's trying to help them mediate and they keep like so Phoebe's like I'm gonna give you guys three vetos So you go back and forth and you have to veto but you only have so many vetoes and they go back and forth so many times Veto Veto Veto and Phoebe's like is the name Veto starting to sound really good to anyone else?

It's such a good episode.

Okay.

Yeah, you should watch it.

I won't.

Oh god, you're so stubborn.

No, no, no.

I tried friends.

It's not for me.

It's not for everyone.

And I think we just need to let sleeping dogs lie.

Okay.

What's next?

Should we do Real Houses in New Jersey?

Yeah.

I think Dear Toasters, for anyone who doesn't watch Housewives, you know.

Oh, you are like beyond considerate.

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Hey girls.

My husband's best friend is dating this girl.

They've been together for about four years and she's absolutely miserable to be around.

She complains, whines, bitches, argues, curses with her boyfriend about everything and anything.

She does it in front of everyone and they are constantly fighting.

They'll get in huge fights in front of all of us and then she'll pout and make awful little comments to him for the rest of the night.

This happens about

97% of the time that we are around them.

Honestly, we haven't said anything to the boyfriend because we kind of assumed that he would end it on his own terms because he would get tired of it.

However, he just bought a ring and is about to propose and we think that he's making the worst decision of his life.

We have a pretty big friend group and we've opened up to mostly everyone about how we feel and they each 100% agree with us.

They can't stand her.

What do we do?

Let him make potentially the worst mistake of his life by marrying her or say something to him and hopefully save him a lot of years of heartbreak.

P.S.

He's literally the best guy ever and we just think he deserves 100% better.

Thanks.

Well, it's not like you're telling him something that he doesn't know or like can't see with his own two eyes.

It's just your personal opinion and I don't think it's going to change anything.

Except honestly hurt your friendship with him.

Yeah, like I know, I know what you see is bad, but you really never know like what a real relationship is like behind closed doors.

No, but it's like he what you see he sees that every like she's miserable around you guys i'm sure if she's even more miserable to be around one-on-one and he's still making this decision like maybe you could have your husband talk to him and be like you sure yeah you sure like you want to talk it out how does she make you feel but it's not like you're telling him that you know that she does all these terrible things cheats on you like blah blah blah right that he doesn't know so and some guys like like bitchy women like maybe that's just his type yeah and people have to live their own lives and make their own decisions Maybe he reminds, she reminds him of his mother.

And also it's like maybe if, you know, if you're someone's sibling or a parent and you said, listen, I do not like this person that you've chosen.

I would like to let you know that before you make this big life decision.

It's your decision to make, but I just think you should know that, you know, the family doesn't like her.

It's different if a friend comes to you and says, I don't like your girlfriend.

I'd say, fuck off.

Fuck off.

Goodbye.

I agree.

Like, unfortunately, I do think like your reign ends here.

Like, you don't really have any leg to stand in.

It's not this like obligation.

I know you feel obligated, but but it's just your opinion.

Yeah, and it's not like he doesn't seem happy.

And it's not like he doesn't know like the things you don't like about her.

It's not shit she does behind his back.

She's doing it in the middle of the room.

Right.

You could maybe say if this is true, like the friend your husband could say to him, like, bro, you don't seem happy.

Are you sure that, you know, just just trying to understand how he feels more, but, you know, he's not going to call off his engagement because you guys don't like her, nor really should he.

I agree, sadly.

I'm sorry that you're now going to have to like hang out with this girl.

Yeah, because there's and I realize how beyond hypocritical it is of me to say this because I'm I don't think anybody on the planet complains more than me.

I think the worst trait in a person is like when they're non-stop complaining.

I do feel like it's okay when I do it because I'm hysterical and like I'm always making it into a joke.

Yes.

But like if people are like, oh, I'm hot, oh, it's ugly in here, like shut up.

That's like my, like, literally, I want to smack them, like, shut up.

But when I do it, it's like, oh, it is hotter than a witch's coochie in here.

You know, I'm like, hilarious.

Yeah, I agree with all of those things.

Thanks.

But it's, it's literally the most annoying quality.

Yeah, just like Debbie Downer.

Like that's skit on SNL.

Yes, like it's just like naggy.

And we can't even have fun because you're pointing out like, yeah, we know it's hot, but like,

move on.

Yeah.

Best of luck, I do suggest keeping your mouth.

And also, like, life changes.

And even though you probably see them all the time now, like in five years and when like they get married and you guys have kids, like things change and you probably will see less of her.

So this is just a phase, a stage of your life.

And if she's not someone who sparks joy, you won't be seeing her all the time.

You do sound like a nosy queen, which I definitely relate to.

And I do think like you would be overstepping.

You, for sure.

Your husband maybe can just probably.

Boys don't really do that.

Like, hey, bro, are you happy?

She complains a lot, bro.

It's just like, you could do that, but like, he would be like, what's going on?

Like, boys don't sit down and be like, bro,

talk to me about your interior life.

Yeah, like, what?

He would be like, are you dying?

Best of luck.

All right, next up.

Hey, girls, OG Breather here.

The only part I love about my hour commute is getting to listen to the toast.

So when I had the the most horrendous thing happen to me, I knew it was the time to submit.

I'm getting married next July, and I have two childhood best friends, Tiggs and Bryce.

When I was making my wedding website, I was originally planning to have Tiggs as my maid of honor and Bryce as my matron of honor.

But I later decided only to have Tiggs as my maid of honor.

Ooh, Bryce got chaffed.

Fast forward a few months, Bryce offered to help me with some of the wording on my wedding website.

I obliged and sent her the link, and much to my dismay, I got a text from her exclaiming how excited she was to be my matron of honor.

I was completely shook and so confused until I looked at the website and right there under her name, it said matron of honor in all fucking caps.

I was shook to my core.

I literally have been ignoring her and I have no idea what to do.

Do I just let her be

matron of honor even though I don't want her to?

Or do I tell her the truth and have her forever know she didn't make the cut?

Sincerely, I should have double-checked my work toaster.

I think you're stuck.

I think you're stuck too because, like, what's the big deal?

Why did you want her to be matron of honor and now you don't?

It's just like you don't want a matron of honor.

Like, it might just be easier.

But at least she was in the running.

It's not like you accidentally put like your third cousin's name.

And also, like,

what does a matron of honor even do?

It's just like a figurehead title.

Like, let Bryce think

I think it's like a disrespectful title.

It's like you're my friend, but old.

No, it's the married maid of honor.

That way, you could have too, I believe.

Because if you're a matron, you're married.

But I feel like some people make, I guess.

And then also, it's like, okay, so one more person who's taking up the mantle for a lot of your wedding things.

And she's obviously really like, you know, pumped about it.

No, and she's very hands-on she asks can i help you

what's tigs doing by the way right that's tigs working on your way on my website that's exactly does bryce get shafted huh no because the thing is when you're as beautiful stunning and smart as tigs like of course these things just happen to you and i totally i totally get the position you're in but this is for bryce in all seriousness

bryce sounds like a good-time gal and a gal who's willing to like get her hands dirty and help and that's exactly type of bitch you need in your wedding party yeah so this might have been a blessing in disguise let bryce be your matron of honor because you know what it'll mean so much to her and it really doesn't it's no sweat off your back.

And in a few years, you won't even remember these semantics.

Like it doesn't matter and it's not worth having a painful conversation with a very excited Bryce.

No, totally.

Bryce deserves better.

Bryce deserves better.

I think you just leave it.

100%.

Leave it.

Leave it.

Leave it.

Congrats, Bryce.

Ready for our third and final?

Yeah.

Hi, Jackie and Claudia.

Jackie, welcome back full time.

Thank you for all your mom content.

I love it.

So here's my situation.

At a baby last July, I bought a decent amount of maternity clothing because I work in person.

About a month or so after I delivered, I had a friend of a friend, a girl I had been decently friends with, reach out and ask to borrow some of my maternity clothes to get her through the end of her pregnancy.

I happily agreed to let her borrow some clothes as this was my first baby.

I wanted the clothes back.

And many were the high-end pieces like Lululemon, many of them were high-end pieces or Lululemon clothing that I sized up in.

Fast forward to now, her baby is seven months old and my best friend is pregnant.

I really...

want to share my clothes with my best friend and also want my freaking clothes back.

I sent this girl a text message and I've heard nothing back.

She sometimes sucks at texting back, so how long do I wait to message her again?

How do I get my clothes back?

Also, now I'm nervous and she borrowed some baby stuff from me, like an extra boppy.

Is it all lost too?

I've been more than generous during her pregnancy and after bringing gifts and meals with little to no thanks, and I'm so frustrated.

Do I involve this girl who introduced us?

I look back on our text messages.

I said borrow multiple times.

Save me from this mama drama.

I will totally share updates.

That's tough.

That's tough.

Get your shit back.

You said borrow.

Also, how magnanimous, magnanimous like to unnecessarily to lend all this stuff to a friend of a friend like

not she's taking advantage of your kindness and it's not not too early to call it back get your shit back it's very possible that like she misunderstood and thought like you were just giving it to her because you just had the baby like why do you need maternity clothes and like maybe gifted it to someone else or like donated it which might be why she's not responding okay well then you need to find that out but she can't just leave you unread that's poor manners and yeah maybe get your mutual friend involved to get to the bottom of it because and you know what maybe just call her what if you just called her

because text messaging you know as a mom i'm sure like you're fucking busy so so many times i get a text message i'm like oh yes clocking it need to respond don't have the bandwidth

no and also even before i was a mom like sometimes i just get a text message that i forget that i got yeah and then it's when like three weeks later I'm like, oh, fuck.

I never responded.

So definitely follow up, call her, get your friend involved because you need to get your stuff back.

That's not nice.

I agree 100%.

And like, just stop being so nice.

Yeah, agreed.

Like, that's like one.

Like, I would lend anything to like a best friend, but to lend like an entire wardrobe to a friend of a friend is not necessary.

Yeah, maybe this is a lesson for life.

Like, there's just no need to be so nice to everyone.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Oh, my God.

Ain't that the truth, sis?

That was Dear Toasters.

And if you ever want to write in, it's dear toasters at gmail.com.

Let's talk about the Real Houses of New Jersey, third and final part of the reunion before our Austin interview.

It was so good.

Yes.

Okay, so I just have to say, like, Ben came in and watched with me.

And when he came on, the men were on.

And then when he left, he's like, wait, they're leaving?

I'm like, yeah, he's like, why?

And he was like, so upset.

And then he wanted to watch 30 Rock before bed.

But right when Housewives ended, the House Husbands episode of Watch Rapids Live was on.

And I'm like, oh, do you want to watch this?

He's like, um, I guess.

He was cracking up, like, literally never saw something so funny in his whole life.

It was a really good episode of Watch Rapids Live.

It was.

I only watched until the first commercial break and then I went to sleep.

It was was good.

They were all like being kind of quiet, but still funny.

I think because one, I think their mics were muted if they weren't being spoken to directly because it's a lot of people.

And you know,

it's nice.

These are just like regular guys.

It's so crazy.

They're just regular guys.

They're not regular trained celebrities.

Yeah, they have like regular jobs, and as most of the husbands on Real Housewives are, but like none other are as featured as these guys.

And it's just, I'm obsessed.

I'm obsessed with that.

I can't get enough.

No, and you know what?

I thought last night's episode was really good for Louie.

Mm-hmm.

Not only finally, like, and I think it registered with him.

He's a logical person, even though like I think he definitely has a weird fucked up past.

He's not illogical like Teresa.

Like he is logical.

So the fact that on Watch Rapids Live, they did a poll.

Are you looking at Louie differently after the reunion?

And it was like 80% yes.

I think it's really registering with him.

Like Margaret was actually not trying to hurt him at all.

And if he had just gotten that ahead of it and like spoken about it, it wouldn't have been a storyline the entire season.

Like that's how this shit works.

Yeah.

And I mean, Teresa really zeroed in on Margaret, but before she did, like, when I looked back on like who's bringing up Louis stuff, like it didn't feel like it was Margaret, you know, bringing it up all the time.

Like, all the women were talking about it.

Like, Teresa just has it out for Margaret and made this whole thing like Margaret's bringing it up when it was everybody was talking about it.

And by the way, the fact that Louis lost his job is really interesting to me.

I don't know how you can lose a job at a company that you own, but that was like really sad.

And I definitely feel

Louie said Teresa didn't want me to tell everyone this.

And not because she was being a martyr, but because I think Teresa's like so toxically traditional that like a man without a job is like in the old Italian, like that would never happen.

So I found that to be like so beyond interesting.

And when Andy asked, do you blame Margaret?

He said no.

For me, I was like, you know what?

Louis's not such a bad guy.

Yeah, no, he has sense.

And maybe if Teresa allowed the story arc to continue over the season where they asked him questions and he answered just like he did at the reunion, we would have liked him.

People would have liked him and

it would have been more favorable.

And I'm not saying he wouldn't have lost his job because also that's like, I thought it weird to lose your job over something from a TV show.

But it's like, it's not from a TV show.

It's from the, he said from all the articles.

Like, right.

So if you're an employee and like all these articles start coming out about you that you're abusive, emotional.

Right, then it has nothing to do with the show.

Right, it has to do with you.

Right.

But Teresa's delusional articles only came out because he's on the show now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Teresa is so delusional.

She's so painful.

I thought Margaret did a good job of like holding her own to the best of her ability.

Even Andy got like so.

And you know, Andy really did a good job.

I think he coddles Teresa a lot, but when he literally turned her and was like, have you ever changed your mind about anything?

Like ever thought to yourself, oh, I was wrong about that.

I changed my mind.

And she was like, yeah.

And Jennifer's like, yeah, I've seen her do it.

I wish he was like, when?

Yeah.

Oh, but a really interesting development.

Melissa and Joe.

You know, Melissa has a podcast and they did an episode literally dropped yesterday or the day before.

They are turnt on Teresa.

When you could see, and Andy said on Watch what should happen inside like it feels like things are going in a different direction with you and like yeah we're on our way like there was detente for so many years but like now the gorga teresa uh judai dude is flared up again and i think i mean obviously it has to do with the fact i don't know how any human being could put up with teresa but also like melissa is so

irrelevant on the show when they were all going around things they've learned and she was like Antonia's back in cheer.

I was like, oh my God, like get Tracy out here, who was totally cut from where you were.

She was there.

Like she had a whole, she was cut.

You're lying.

She was the cast photo.

Like, she wore a gold dress and her hair was really long.

You're lying.

And you know what?

Because there was so much to discuss.

I feel like they didn't even really get to harp on Teresa's table flip that much.

Like, there was so much.

Oh, my God.

Cause I also wanted to hear from Tiki.

That's why I wanted Tracy to be there because he was one of the guys.

Who was asking questions?

And I just watched the Chris DeSeveno special where he talked about Tiki Barber.

I was crying.

So I was really waiting to hear from Tiki and like what he thought about being part of the housewives.

He was literally, I do believe, I don't know if he was there, but she was fully photographed on a couch.

They brought in a chair for her, friend F, gone.

Oh my God.

I mean, it's safe to say she won't be on next season, even though I liked her.

I didn't mind her.

I didn't, but I do feel like the six current cast members, like there's so much more ground to cover.

And I know I've said, like, I'm so upset Jackie got demoted because I, man, have I turned around on her.

But somebody did offer a unique insight to me that it's possible that part of the reason she was demoted is Bravo looking out for her health which i can totally understand even though i just don't see bravo like ever sacrifice like production companies don't sacrifice entertainment for people's mental health it's like not a thing no and also she said on the show on the reunion last night like the show saved her life so like

It could be looked at differently.

Jackie was MVP of like the whole reunion.

And when she drank the whole champagne and everyone was like, wow, she's like, I'm eating now.

So I need to drink.

It was, she's like, look, she's doing such a good job of like handling this.

And it's still so interesting.

You know me?

I fucking hate personal storylines.

like i just have no time for them i couldn't get enough of jackie's journey i'm like so upset we're not going to be seeing her it's not confirmed that she's demoted yes it is it how where where was it confirmed everywhere oh fuck it's it's confirmed i mean it's possible she gives a banger season and they actually just continued to like keep her in but for now they're treating her as a friend of while they just started filming again that's so unnecessary like keep the six women bring in a different friend of like it's working it's working even tracy like it was working Yeah, and we never say that.

We're always like, there needs to be a big overhaul.

Yeah, no, it's perfection.

And that's the thing.

Even with Teresa, like, I want to fucking shake her.

Name a bitch who's been on the show longer and is still literally the most talked about person.

Like, she, she is the show.

And, like, I get why she is the way that she is.

And

I can't even talk about like the feelings I feel when I watch her.

And that's good television, even though I literally hate her.

Yeah, no, it's good because she's really, you know, someone that...

can be a villain for a lot of people, except for like the 1% of voters who like thought that Teresa had a good reunion.

Yeah.

But so not only is she like the villain of the group, but she has close relationships with

Dolores and Jennifer and Melissa is her sister.

So it's not like this person who's constantly on the fray.

No, it's so true.

She has to be involved.

Also,

so on Melissa and Joe's podcast, what I thought was weird is like Melissa and Joe have so many legitimate gripes with Teresa.

I mean, they can literally write a novel.

And what they chose to say on the podcast was like,

Basically, that Teresa's kids would be homeless if it weren't for Teresa, for Melissa and Joe.

They really held down the the fort on the show when Teresa was in jail, which is like really not true.

So it was just like, of all the times they finally decide to speak out against Teresa, like that's what they say.

Because that's like not even something as like a Teresa hater, I can really even like agree with.

The show was not good without Teresa.

And he asked Joe about it on Watch Rapid Rapids Live, and he said that like this show has been amazing because it's centered around our family drama and without our piece of stuff.

That's true.

Who knows if Teresa would still be a housewife?

That's like not what he said on the podcast.

I listened to clips.

Like it was different.

Okay, well, that's his explanation.

On Watch Happens Live, he made sense.

So he's saying, like, Teresa's continued success is because of this dynamic.

But the same can be said for the Gore.

Teresa could say the same thing about them.

100%.

I mean, that's not, like, why I think they should be angry with Teresa.

They should be angry with Teresa for treating them like crap.

Yeah.

And always taking like her new friend's side for Melissa.

But Melissa versus Teresa, and they've started filming already and this podcast just came out.

Melissa versus Teresa like is coming.

It is a thing.

And you know what?

I'm happy for Melissa because she was on a one-way ticket to nowhere being Teresa's friend.

No, but also, I think the issue was like Teresa was always demanding like a level of loyalty from Melissa that she would not give her in return instead of just being like, listen,

we'll never go at each other like we used to, but I don't expect from you what I wouldn't give to you.

And we're different.

And those are your friends.

These are my friends.

We're family, whatever.

But like, she holds every time Margaret says something, it's like, Melissa, yeah.

Well, that would require Teresa to be a logical, reasonable person, which unfortunately she is not.

Right.

It was so good.

Like when Andy,

that was so funny.

It was just really, really good.

I loved having the men around.

They're literally the best part of the show.

They're the best part of the show.

My boy Evan Joe Benigno.

I love him embracing his eyelift.

He literally did not say one thing at the reunion.

Or I watched Jeff's Live.

Or other than his eyelift.

But he's like another one that I look at him and I laugh because it's just like, he's your average Joe and he's like on this TV show and it's so funny.

Who do you think said less on the reunion, Joe Benigno or Alex from Summerhouse?

Joe Benigno.

I think Alex from Summerhouse.

But at least Alex from Summerhouse, like, he kept getting in all the previews for the Hoden Civic of Male Attractions.

Right.

Oh, right.

That was, like, his big moment.

Yeah, Joe didn't have like a one-liner.

I know.

So true.

Bill Aiden was being really cute on Watch Robins Live.

And honestly, like, I feel like this happens at every reunion where I have a really, like, I watch it sympathetically for Jennifer.

Like, she does a good job.

And Jackie was right.

Like, I do feel like she could be really good friends with all the women, but like her toxic, loyal blindness to Teresa is just like always getting in the way during the seasons but like she comes off really like I don't know I feel like they're really deep deep deep down there is like a good gal there no there's a side of Jennifer that I love that I would want to be friends with there's also a side that just like says and does things that are beyond not defensible and you know what but also like her logic and her

thought processes as she's explaining them on the reunion like I get her yeah you know what though as much as and I do believe Margaret was like extremely sympathetic and didn't really think like it would would blow up in the way that it did for bringing up the affair.

And I do believe she was genuine.

In a way, I'm still really glad that she did because I think like she kept drilling on.

Like I wasn't saying it to hurt you.

I was saying it to point out the fact that like you are in a glass house and you throw stones.

At the end of the day, I do believe Jennifer received that message.

She was like, I'm going to try to move forward, like not be such like a nasty bitch.

Yeah.

And so if all of that.

If we get that from all of this, I will be happy.

No, and I need Jennifer and Margaret to still be cool because that was one of my favorite scenes of the entire season, like when they saw each other.

Like

Margaret saw that Jennifer was hurting and Jennifer saw that Margaret wasn't trying to hurt her.

Margaret gets this rap for being just like this villainous queen, bone-carrying queen.

And she's really not.

Like she is a good friend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That the right side of the couch is like the

logical.

It's logical and it's like real friendship versus the left side is like old Italian friendship, which means, oh, you can't ask Teresa a question.

Yeah.

What did Andy say?

Oh, yeah, like Dolores knew about the rumors, but never asked them.

Yeah.

And Andy was like, yeah, because she's Italian.

Yeah.

And then Teresa said something like, if she had asked, I would tell her.

No, she said, well, she knew not to ask because she knows I would never be with someone who was physically abusive.

Yeah.

The delusion, the thinking, I just can't follow it.

No, me neither.

So it was like an amazing, like really amazing season of Jersey.

And it's been, it's always an amazing season.

It is that show.

It is.

I'm going to miss it.

I am too.

I'm really going to miss the husbands.

Like they're so

obsessed with the husbands.

Like every single one.

No, there's not a bad husband.

No.

If there were to be a bad husband,

there's not one.

No, there's not.

Who's sitting next to Joe Gorga?

Yeah.

Evan.

No, he was in the back.

Who's in the middle?

I'm like blinking.

It was Joe Gorga, someone, Frank Catania.

No, they were all behind their women.

Oh, I'm talking about the reunions.

No, no, I'm talking about him on Choppin' Slive.

Oh, Jorgo, Joe Gorigno.

I'm like blinking.

No, so in the back was Joe Benigno, Evan, and Billy.

And Louie was in the middle.

Oh, exactly.

Yeah.

But he was girlfriend.

And also, he's not a husband yet.

Like,

I don't think of him as part of the crew yet.

It's still early days.

Yeah.

I wonder, so Teresa's wedding is soon.

I wonder if it's going to be on the show.

Margaret obviously is not invited, but like, honestly, I feel like Melissa might not be.

Like, after this podcast.

Yeah.

Like, that I'm looking forward to watching.

Yeah, wow.

We're going back so far.

No, I know.

But it has to be done.

It has to be done.

And also, after watching Ultimate Girl's trip, it's like these two do not like each other.

They can't agree on anything.

And like, it's all, it was a ceasefire, but it was never meant to last.

No, it was not meant to last.

It's such a good way of putting it.

So we will miss New Jersey, but

yeah.

That means Potomac is coming back soon, which is so exciting.

So exciting.

Beverly Hills is back.

Dubai.

June 1st.

I'm so sorry.

Southern Charm.

Southern Charm.

Charm, charm.

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Welcome back to The Morning Toast.

We are so excited to be sitting down with Austin and Kroll from Southern Charm, Winter House, and a little bit of Summer House.

He made a small appearance, huge impact.

Small but mighty.

Hi, Austin.

Hello, ladies.

So good to see you.

So good to see you.

Thank you so much for joining us here in New York.

You're here for what?

The Bravo Upfronts?

We were here for Bravo Upfronts, yeah, which I didn't know what that meant.

Do y'all know what that means?

Yeah, we used to work in the B2B world, so we are familiar with upfronts, but I also feel like as a Bravo star, if you get invited to the upfronts to like be part of the front-facing people, that's a big sign.

It's an honor.

It's an honor, because not everyone gets to go.

So that is something that I was thinking about, too.

Something that late night I was with.

Sandoval, we like would end up outside of the hotel, just chatting about everything.

You know, he's a chatter.

And like that thought, he was like, bro, we're here.

They asked for us to be here.

And that's

okay.

You know, and so with everything going on, I was like, yeah, they asked me to be here.

Yeah, that's a good sign.

Who else was there?

Who else is good for their next season?

From Charm, it was me and Shep.

I think that Craig was supposed to be there as well, but Craig had his one-year anniversary of his store on King Street on Saturday.

We're sitting on Sewing Down South pillows.

I was going to ask you

these are SDS pillows.

They're fabulous.

It's really good.

There's nothing wrong with his sewing.

I'm going to show your pillows if you're listening.

They're really nice.

A lot of support.

So you were the topic of conversation on many reality shows recently, most notably Summer House, which is crazy because you were on like two episodes total.

I was there for 48 hours.

Right.

And the whole season is about you.

Yes.

And I, look, I didn't watch any of it, but of course I have people that do and they tell me about it.

And then you see some backlash about it.

And

I was shocked.

at the repercussions or just how much that I was on it.

Right.

And like chose to use me and like take other main cast members that were very much there.

Yeah.

And make it seem like they weren't there.

Yes.

So I guess that I just didn't know because my first, so my first day there,

I was very tame.

Right.

And like intended, I was like, Austin, keep it together.

Because I was supposed to go when Craig went the first weekend.

Right.

We learned this at the reunion a little bit.

Okay.

And then

Coral you not to go because it would be thirsty to be on three shows.

No, that's not true.

I wish that he would have because

I was looking for any sign to not to go

because when Craig first went, you know, it was like we had been on Winterhouse and so they wanted like, you know, the Austin Craig package to go.

You know, him and Paige were like just beginning to talk, right?

It wasn't like a full-blown thing.

He was, you know, excited to go and see her.

And so I was like, I don't know, man.

I'm just like, my headspace is not right.

I'm really not feeling it.

I really don't know if I want to be on camera right now.

So I didn't go.

And then Lindsay, you know, we're talking, talking, talking as, I mean, we should talk all the freaking time.

And she was like, it's my birthday.

Come.

We're going to have a blast.

And I got to thinking, I was like, well, you know, it's Lindsay's birthday.

I'm going to be able to go and like have fun in the Hamptons.

Doesn't that sound like fun?

That does sound like fun with your friends.

You know, normally that sounds fun.

Yeah.

And she texted me the other day after part one of the reunion and she was like, remember when when I called you and told you it was going to be so much fun for you to come to the Hampton?

She goes, I'm so sorry that all this nonsense is happening to you.

And I was like, oh my gosh, Lindsay, it's never ending.

And she was like,

that seems like, you know, a year and a half ago because it was a year and a half ago.

Did they ask you to go to the reunion?

No.

No.

So you haven't really had a chance.

A lot has been spoken about you.

You haven't really spoken on it.

You have been, you know,

dragged quite a bit for how you handled Sierra, how you handled Lindsay, Lindsay, and just like that 48-hour time in the house.

So, I guess my question for you is, what do you feel like wasn't said?

Like, what do you feel like people are misunderstanding about you?

Because I think you feel like you've been kind of

sidelined and trashed.

It's emotional.

It's emotional.

It's emotional.

Just clearing my throat just to make sure that this is well heard.

It's just,

you know, going to a show that you're not a cast member of,

you don't get the green screen.

You don't get to show up the weekend after and like apologize.

You don't get your redemption, so to speak.

And especially couldn't go to the reunion.

And

yeah, I mean, you're right.

I haven't said much about the topic because Summerhouse was like such a trigger word for me.

And like, I hate to say it and like admit it, but it was just like, no, well, the Finnic, you don't know is

and like I, you know, am now very like, you you know what?

Like, we are moving onwards and upwards, but, you know, just like having your narrative said for you is very frustrating, right?

It's very frustrating.

And

I

guess that what it is in a nutshell is that.

So it was last summer, I was like five to six months, like officially, you know, single.

I had moved on, you know, from something that wasn't the greatest.

And I was like, I'm having fun and I'm single and I'm allowed to do, you know, this and that.

And I, you know, was I like selfish in my like, you know, hot boy summer, right?

Quote unquote.

You know, yes.

And I realized that in hindsight.

I realized that, you know, very soon thereafter,

there was like an apology, you know, where like I was able to speak to everyone.

It just wasn't, you know, used, which is.

Who did you apologize to?

Sierra.

Got it.

Okay.

I was able to, you know, pull her aside and have a combo and, you know, and

really talk to her about

I understand.

I guess I didn't realize that her and Lindsay were like

at odds.

They just don't have a good relationship.

And then to see you with her must have drove Sierra crazy.

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, so you know, Lindsay never really told me that her and Sierra weren't that tight, right?

Because, you know, Lindsay isn't like that.

You know, she's not like, you know, F that person or whatever.

Right.

You know, she was just like, so I, when I came,

yeah,

Sierra was like, okay, well, you're not going to be in her bed.

And I was like, I wasn't planning on it.

Right.

You know, I totally wasn't planning on it.

I think that I'm going to like, you know, sleep in Andrea's bed or something.

So like, I guess that I just didn't know.

And then on Lindsay's birthday, you know, all hell broke loose because I just decided to drink a bunch of tequila.

And we were sitting in Lindsay's room prior to, you know, the party and we were just talking to each other.

And I was like, and she was like fuck everything right let's just have fun and I was like yes I love that mentality and this was before Winterhouse had aired too so I didn't get to see like like what the reactions were from like me and Sierra or me and Lindsay maybe and so I was flying blind from like what had happened or what was going to be shown on Winterhouse so then it just like you know,

like, it just kept on snowballing.

Yeah.

Do you feel like you make decisions on the show, on any of the shows that you're on, based on how people react on social media?

Like, does it inform your decision making at all?

No.

And I'm going to say no in the sense, no and yes.

So like, you know, yes, in the sense that

when you see yourself get like, you know, worked up on someone, right?

And then and then you watch it and maybe see like a social media, like, oh my, you know, then you sit back and you're like, Austin,

keep it together.

Like, if someone's yelling, like, let, let, you know, them yell as much as you possibly can before you.

So, like, I try to keep my emotions in check more, right, after, like, having seen some things where I've been, you know, like emotional or whatever, because it's not an attractive quality to watch, you know, anyone, you know, yelling and huffing and puffing.

No, and that's a really jar.

But to be able to learn from yourself, like, most people can't see themselves and they don't ever get the perspective of, you know, being outside of the moment and getting to watch their reaction.

So that's like a good thing.

But as long as it's not informing like how you live your life based on like what people are gonna no no no no no i i mean look i i i couldn't if if i tried you know to be you know different like i'm not gonna show up one day and be like a buttoned up like you know james bond like right okay now i've changed yeah yeah this is not gonna happen well i think like the major takeaway from the summer house reunion between sierra and lindsay was like you know it's austin's fault pretty much like it was you know and you really never got to speak for yourself no I'm, I'm, so I didn't watch the reunion.

I was certainly shocked to like hear a bunch of things, right?

A bunch of people just like, you know, hurling my name around.

And I'm like, oh, this is interesting.

Yeah, but there's also like a lot of things that you like said or maybe influenced that had nothing to do with the Lindsay Sierra stuff, you know, more to do with like Kristen and Craig and Paige and when you told Lindsay that information and when she told it to Paige.

Oh, right.

Okay, interesting.

I just forgot about that.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

How much were we used on this season?

Yeah.

So,

you know, this is one of those things too, where Craig,

Craig says, and he's been telling everyone that, like, you know, we didn't talk for three months because of X, Y, and Z.

And I'm like, that's just not true.

You know, Craig and I were still podcasting.

You know, it was just kind of walking on eggshells.

Like, so that we weren't talking.

Right.

And

Craig thinks or thought, Craig thought that like I was like maliciously trying to like tell Lindsay some information, which I don't know if it was then

when like she was driving to the Hamptons or not, but you know, to me,

it doesn't matter.

The way that Craig said it to me was that I said to Lindsay, like, hey, if like, if you want to fuck with Craig, you know, you know, here's some info.

And I was like, Craig, I would never do that.

That is how it came off.

I was like, you're single and I want you to flourish, pal.

I really do.

It's just that a friend called me and was like, hey, is it you or is it him?

Right.

And I was like, it's not me.

We all thought it was you.

I know that.

Because, by the way, like at dinners and things, like I, like, I would like sit next to her on purpose to like throw everyone off.

And you weren't my friend.

And then I was getting the like, you know, brunt of it.

And I'm like, and then that's when I realized I was like, being like a Bravo level famous is fun.

Being like a higher level, stressful is all hell.

Like when all that was happening, I was like, oh my gosh, like, didn't realize that your level of fame was like

up here.

So do you really feel like a lot of the negative sentiments about you are due partly to your own actions, which you've taken responsibility for, but also because you really just weren't given a platform to make it right.

Like you weren't given confessionals, you weren't given an opportunity at the reunion.

And you think if you were, like...

people would have seen your side a little bit more.

And I think people might have had an easier time moving on because it's a story, it evolves, and now we're talking about next weekend.

Sure, sure.

So, so certainly not like absolved, right?

It's not like, oh man, if I would have been on there, but like,

I just like, I had, you know, remorse for it.

And I had like, look, I'm just trying to learn and grow.

And like, I'm going to learn and grow from this, but I never had the opportunity to say it.

And, you know, that's all that people kind of want to see is like taking accountability for your actions and knowing that you did something and then moving forward and what they're going to see.

And so that's what's been so interesting because I've been now on, sure, I've been overexposed.

Like I've been overexposed.

Like sometimes it's like, oh my gosh, well, now it's this show and then this, which turned into something huge.

And those have been vacation shows.

Yeah.

They haven't been shows about, you know, my real life and like what I'm doing with my business or like, you know, personal life.

Well, of course not personal life, but you know, personal life back in Charleston.

Yeah.

Or like, you know, showing me like, you know, my business and purchasing a home and things like that.

It's just been shows about purely vacation.

And relationships.

And so that's, it's tough to be painted in a positive light and not that I do myself any favors.

Right.

That's fair.

But, you know, when there's no like, okay, well, let's now see him like, you know, going to work on Monday or something

or like, you know, figuring out this or doing this or, you know, progressing in his life.

It's like, let's see Austin come in like a tornado and

rip apart the house for 48 hours.

And then leave.

And then leave.

Right.

Never to be heard from.

Never to be heard from again.

Right.

Right.

So that has been super interesting.

But I'll tell you what, Craig and I went on tour

on a podcast tour.

I know, I heard you guys spoke about me.

Somebody said April Fool's clip.

Craig believed my April Fool's joke.

I guess Dumois.

Oh my gosh, yes.

Like best prank ever.

It was Jackie's idea.

I was sitting on, like, on the plane, and Craig was across the aisle from me.

And I was like, Craig, Craig.

I was like, Claudia is Dumois.

And then his eyes kind of went wide.

And he was like, dude, it's April Fool's.

I was like, oh my gosh, I'm such an idiot.

I'm such an idiot.

I love that.

I love that.

But yes, you went on tour.

And our very first stop was DC.

And of course, we had like a loose kind of thing of what we wanted to do.

And at first, we were like, okay, so maybe at this point, we'll bring on some fans to play like a dating game.

They'll bring on fans here and they'll do like a Q ⁇ A.

And immediately when we walked out, right, because it was like a week or so after the episode had aired.

And we were like, we, you know, I don't know what to expect.

Like, we decided to go out, you know, together so that no one had any sort of opportunity to like boo me maybe.

Right?

Yeah.

And,

you know, but once again, like, it's like Bravacon, like, people are buying money to come and see you.

Say you're fans, right?

Not haters.

To pay money to come throw tomatoes is insane.

It's crazy.

People are crazy.

Trust me.

I actually thought the first

show,

I was like, what if it's Mando gets thrown at me?

I actually had that thought.

Yeah, no, of course.

But you know what?

Okay, so now I guess the better question is, like, where do you stand with Lindsay and with Sierra?

Okay.

So So with Lindsay, we

spent the whole weekend together, right?

I mean, in terms of just like, you know, seeing each other and texting each other and like, you know, having chats.

And, you know, we're, we're as good as can be.

Our relationship has certainly evolved, which it should, because now she has Carl in her life.

You know, Carl is, you know, her person.

And I couldn't be happier for him.

I could not be happier for him.

And so, so of course it has to change, right?

It, it can't be like, you know, that waking up every day and calling each other

used to.

So, you know, we're fine.

Sierra is definitely something that you're going to have to watch on because what's so interesting is that we filmed for Winterhouse and then they filmed for the Summerhouse Reunion.

And so it's just like the series of events from how she felt on summer does not match up to how she's acting on the reunion.

Got it.

Yes, but we said that you can tell even there seems to be some strife between Paige and Lindsay that is like not, they're not even mentioning it, but it was extremely tense and nothing that we saw this season on Summerhouse warrants that so you can tell that like there's this other show that happened in between because everybody's dynamics have really changed I mean yeah yeah so so that is so interesting too because there were things where it was like

uh

you know, I don't want to like divulge too much, but it's like, you know, there were things where like, you know, the cast was like, well, our reunion is, is in like, you know, two weeks, so we're not going to like dive into this here.

Right.

kind of thing

got it the schedule is like a little faca yeah i mean there's just so many things going on plus last night then at the end of the reunion we got the trailer for southern charm oh yeah which looks so good and what are you and craig fighting about

i love that fucking song it's so good it is good what's the fight

is it a real fight oh my god no but but like you know yes and no right so you know craig and i fight like brothers it's just like what we do um And at this point, you know, we're great, but we'll.

So we.

You are a complicated fella.

Okay.

So

we're literally just, you know, after dinner drunk.

And Craig and I are like, okay, so like Craig is like a wrestler, right?

And I'm more of like a, you know, I'm going to like, you know, throw you or something.

And I was like, Craig, stop it, you know, and he is tuned up.

And I'm like, get away from me, Craig.

I'm going to punch you in the face, but like, I'm not going to punch him in the face because that's just going over the line.

And so then he gets a hold of me.

we just go down and the only language that craig speaks in that moment is tapping out so i had to like got it got it you know i was like leave me alone that's good okay okay that it was a real fight you know have you ever been on the show before no right this is your first time on this show yeah i think yes yes it is okay because i ask every southern charm person this question and i will never not think it's weird and one of my main takeaways from the reunion i mean from the trailer is, you know, all these people, best friends in Charleston, dinners and trips and fights and relationships, and Patricia.

And I will just like truly never understand like how more people don't think it's weird that there's like this old sophisticated woman like hanging out with you guys.

And honestly, she was the main character of the trailer.

She was in it more than anyone else.

Really?

Yes.

And I think what bothers us most about her presence, even though these days it's better, it's like in the past and even before your time, like she's really been like on the wrong side of history about a lot of things with the cast members.

And everybody just like respects and trusts her opinion so much that it's like, I just feel for Cal.

It's like the word of God when like she was.

It's wrong.

Yeah.

But what,

like, when you guys all go out to dinner and you're like, oh, you're calling like your, your mom or something, like, yeah, hey, oh, I'm going to dinner at this like old lady's house.

Like, like, to me, it just reads so weird.

You're like a group of friends who are all of a certain age.

And like, then you all go to parties at this woman's house.

Like, it just, it's so weird to me.

Like, and it's never spoken about.

So that, my question is, like, what, what?

Wait, and also, is it because she really is that presence in all of your lives?

Or is it because like the Bravo universe loves her being this presence?

So we're going to do more of it.

Okay, so I think it's a little bit of both.

Okay.

And the fact that she was used as much as she was on shower, you know, does not surprise me at all.

In fact, like, it makes me happy because people like to see it.

You know, she wasn't in like the cast photo as she never is.

Right.

Right.

And so then when she's not in the cast photo, people start to freak out.

Like, oh my God, is she not on the show?

Right.

And it's like, no, y'all, rest assured.

Patricia's back.

You know?

Okay.

She's always back.

You know, and so I just know what happened, right?

Because, you know, you ask Whitney and he's like, it's a nightmare.

And he's like, and he's like, dude, my mother is on the show.

You know, I mean, as close as they are.

Yay.

You know, he's like, dude, imagine if your mom was on the show.

Yeah, there's something just like inherently odd about it.

I think just people really love her, so they put her in more.

And she really, she does have this way about her, and she's very iconic and Charleston.

And Charlestonian does not.

So it's like when you go to her home, the last thing that like everyone wants to be on their P's and Q's, you know, if there's a conversation that she doesn't want to talk about or have a part of, she's like, excuse me.

And like, you know, she walks away from you.

Like, literally, I remember last season.

I remember, you know, last season or two seasons ago, whenever Naomi was on it, she was like, um, Patricia, you know, can we talk?

And she was like, um, no, darling.

You know, I kind of like walked away.

Yeah.

No, she's definitely an interesting character, but like, you know, as a normal person, it's like if me and my friends were all hanging out out and then we like went to a party at some old lady's house, like it would be weird.

And she's not some old lady.

She's like an iconic South Carolinian figure.

Yeah.

I mean, I guess that I have thought of that a few times.

It's weird.

But like she,

like she embodies exactly what the show should be about.

Old Southern, you know, debonair.

But it's the same way that like Lisa Vanner Pump was like always around the Vanner Pump rules kids, but like there was a, it made sense.

Like she was their boss.

Like there was a connection.

And sometimes it just feels like, oh, we're going to Patricia's house.

Like it just feels odd.

yeah yeah I mean look she she has the old south way about her and and like you know her advice and kind of like you know you've said and I'm sorry you know Miss Patricia but many times we've talked about it and it's like she was wrong about this that this

goes yeah and then and then she was besties with Catherine right and then now not you know and it's and and so it's certainly been an interesting thing where it's like wait well you took Landon under your wing how did that work out?

Right.

You took Thomas under your wing.

And how did that work out?

Right.

That's so true.

It's certainly been that way.

But I mean,

she, she, you know what?

She's always been kind and like, you know, open arms to generous.

Well, you know, she's had some like, you know, claps on me.

Yeah.

Right.

But, you know, you'll certainly, you know, watch.

I want to switch gears really quickly because like you literally can't fart without like it being made into like a TikTok.

I saw like a rumor that you're dating Tayshia.

Do you want to clear that up?

That's so funny.

I mean, so Tayshia and I just did watch what happens Happens Live together, right?

Well, not just, but I'm saying just as

that is the extent of it, right?

And so then I see her out and Chep's girlfriend Taylor was like, Austin, I think that's Tayshia behind you.

And I was like, is it?

And I was like, hey, and so she had come to meet up with like

our crew.

And no, Tayshia and I are not dating.

You should think about it.

She's a great girl.

Oh my gosh.

So much fun.

And, you know, we had a blast that day.

But it was just like, let's take like a pic together because we did watch what happens live together.

That's what I thought, but everyone made a whole thing.

Yeah, yeah.

And, and, and, you know, the views on my, you know, IG, I was like, oh, what's going on?

Like, 200,000 views, huh?

Okay.

Damn.

All right.

Uh, what, what the hell just happened?

Um, another Southern Charm question.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Madison not in the cast photo?

I did not see her.

Is she a cast member?

She was on the trailer.

She, she is on the show.

She's on the show.

I have no idea why she's not in the poster.

That's weird.

She's Shep's cousin.

Her name is Marcy.

She,

you know, a great girl.

Also was casted, and she's not in the cast photo.

So I don't know.

I don't know what's going on there.

I have no idea.

But, you know, you obviously saw her in the trailer.

Yeah.

You know that she's around.

And she's getting married.

She's bought a house.

Yeah.

See, I don't know.

I know the engagement thing, of course.

Do you not follow her on Instagram?

No.

Well, she bought a house.

It's really nice.

Happy for her.

Are you single right now?

So,

God, what?

What about

simple question is

that?

You know what I literally, like every simple question, it's like, well, where do I begin?

Yeah, no, seriously, but where, but, but, where do I begin?

So, this whole, like, a new girl, uh, Olivia, that's on the show.

Um, we definitely, our paths are intertwined the entire time.

And it's like fresh on the heels of summer, right?

And so, what I will say is that, you know, and not that she gives a shit about what happened in summer, but what I'm saying is that in the sense where I'm like still kind of like single mode, and and and so I'm trying to like figure out this situation because she's such a wonderful girl that I'm like, how are you?

So it's like all, it's all timing.

It's all timing, and that's what's gonna happen on this show.

And it must be difficult to be on a show where they're like, you know, blasting your personal life from shit that happened over a year ago.

But right now you're living in a totally different headspace.

So like you're answering for things that like you have evolved back.

I don't know him.

Right.

Right.

But you know, that's, that's kind of always the case, right?

Because the show always always takes six, eight, eight months to kind of cut and then to come out.

And then you're like, and then it happens.

You're like, guys, that didn't happen yesterday.

Right.

A lot of things have happened since then.

You know, and...

Part of the reason that I was so happy to come here today is because it's like, I did want to like, you know, talk about those things, but then really like close the chapter on that and never speak on it again kind of thing and move forward to, you know, the new season of charm that I'm very excited for.

And I hope that everyone else is too.

well I've made peace with the summer I really have I've totally like the more we talk about it the more I'm like what are no talk

yeah totally

no and then that's you know what I thought no I'm just gonna stop there yeah I think so like it went well it went well I'll just end it last question for you how's your Trop Hop business going oh my gosh so that is certainly showcased on the show.

Good.

I'm very excited and obviously I feel blessed that I have like the platform that I do to be able to show that.

And so what I did was in a nutshell, I moved production where where it was in the upstate of South Carolina so about three hours away now it's in downtown Charleston so so I got to go there and film a bunch I come out with a couple of new beers and we kind of show the journey

which I think that a lot of people you know I like

over the years have have seen and know that

once you try to dive into like the meat and potatoes of it, you know, some people are like, boring.

It's a little boring, yeah.

Right, of course.

So it's like trying to like hit the highlights.

And it's like, you know, new beers and like a new like in a production facility.

And let's go here on like a guy's trip and see this

for this.

And

so you'll definitely see some chop op stuff and it's doing wonderfully.

So now since production's near you, when people come to Charleston, can they like do a tasting,

like a brewery excursion?

That's like great for the tourists and fans.

Yep, so I use another brewery to brew my beer and it's called Palmetto Brewing Company.

And so they have all my beer on tap and and that's where they brew it and so that is like ground zero if right if you come to charleston and it's right downtown so you want to come to charleston and then you can go to craig's store are they close to each other i've never been yeah to charleston you should come to charleston i've been i know i've heard i would love it you should certainly come to charleston everyone should come to charleston but um and everyone does come to charleston especially from new york city it is like it it was a mass exodus down there but um you know it's it's like a mile away okay

and like a charleston mile is is different than a New York mile.

Yes.

Okay, so it's like it's not a matter of time.

You can walk there like 15 minutes, not like, you know, 30 minutes in a car.

Totally.

Yeah.

Well, thank you for being vulnerable and honest with us.

We really appreciate your candor.

We appreciate you being here.

Everyone, if you want to keep up with Austin, follow him on Instagram.

Oh, also, we were talking about you before you got here.

When are you going to change your Instagram username?

Claudia doesn't like it.

You don't like it?

No, it's like you're like, I get it.

When you were like a

commoner, like you're a celebrity now.

And like, I'm trying to find your Instagram.

And I'm like, where the fuck is is Austin Kroll?

Oh my gosh, that's funny, actually.

I never thought about that.

And you know who hates it too?

Is Spencer Pratt.

He always tells me

he's like, He's like, dude, just make it at Austin Kroll.

Right, you're building a business, you're brand building.

You know what?

I kind of like it because it's like you're still that same guy.

You haven't, the theme hasn't changed.

That's true.

I just thought it was funny.

Like, Matthew McConaughey's Wiener.

I mean, right?

What?

Oh, it's from

10 Things I Hate about.

No, wait, this isn't true.

I think there's a guy in 10 days.

Wait, what's the reference when she names his penis?

She names

Princess Sophia.

Yeah.

And then he's like, what about something manly like Kroll, the warrior king?

Oh, you know what?

I do love a pop culture reference.

Why?

And so a girlfriend of mine back right before the show began was like, I'm going to change mine if you change yours to this.

And so we both kind of change it together.

And I've never changed it since.

I like that.

Me too.

After hearing the explanation,

I don't hate it as much.

Okay.

I don't.

But, you know, maybe I should, right?

Because if you don't get the reference, then it makes no sense.

No, it sounds like you're calling yourself a warrior king.

No, it just sounds like an inside joke

from like before

famous.

Like, you really like it.

Oh my God, that's funny.

Yeah.

So.

So you're a podcaster now, Pillows and Beers, right?

With Craig.

Everyone can catch up with you on the air.

Follow Crow the Warrior King on Instagram.

That eye roll.

And thank you so much for being here, Austin.

We really appreciate your presence.

Guys, thank you so much.

And thank you guys for listening.

Hope you have an amazing day.

And we'll see you tomorrow.

Bye.