S5 Ep6: Cam Girls: Monday, January 10th, 2022

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Monday.

Unfortunately, I hate to be the one to tell you guys it's Monday.

Hey, Claudia, how are you dern?

You know what?

You did just ruin my day.

I didn't even realize that it was Monday.

But you know what?

Second Monday in 2022.

Let's keep up our positive attitudes.

We've got a new sickening webcam from Jackie.

Yes, my video on Friday was extremely unfortunate for a number of reasons.

First of all, I have a MacBook Air, which is so crazy because I do so much on my computer.

You don't know how many podcasts I record on my computer, how many videos are on like files that are massive.

And this computer is a really good computer, but it's just not meant for a podcasting queen.

So, as you guys know, I've been struggling to order a new computer.

I've ordered one, but it's going to be a few weeks because that's just how things go these days.

In the meantime, though, I thought my video on Friday was just unacceptable.

The sun was coming in, which also made it like foggy, but it's clear that my computer camera is inferior to yours.

So I went out there and I got a webcam and I'm loving it.

There's just something funny about the word webcam.

Like, what is this?

1997?

It's hysterical.

And I am a cam girl.

And you know what?

I'm loving every minute of it.

It's so funny.

It was an investment in your future.

Like, not only can you produce more high-tech, high-quality podcasts, you can also do like masturbation videos, pictures of your feet.

Like, you could do all these different new avenues for revenue and I just think that's what like a business should be.

I completely agree.

I'm loving the cam life and it's given me just like this new lease.

So now I do think our videos are

both very strong and now it's just like clear like I'm fuggly and my makeup is trash and like you look really nice.

Oh my God.

You know, thank you so much for saying that.

That's really, really sweet.

I too have upgraded a little bit.

I got a new ring light.

I got brand new headphones.

I'm just trying to make the most of our podcasting from home.

And I think we're fucking killing it, honestly.

No, I'm really enjoying like every day.

It's a new technological advancement.

If you saw my desk, I was just saying to Claudia, like there are so many things plugged in.

It's like, I don't use my computer microphone.

I use my external.

I use my webcam.

I use my headphones.

It all is propped up like on a puzzle and a book.

It's very Rube Goldberg.

One thing collapses and the whole show is taken down.

Mine is propped up on my Dyson Air app, which is actually an amazing, amazing.

It's not a great blow dryer, in my opinion, but it's a great elevator for your computer so that we're at eye level with the camera.

I'm not getting like a double chin moment from below.

Yeah, but also these microphones would cancel out a double chin also.

That's really why I love podcasting from home.

I very strategically place my microphone over my chin and it's just, it's face tune you really can't pay for.

Yeah, no, the podcasting from home life has just really,

you know,

evolved leaps and bounds from where it was.

And I'm feeling really good about it.

I think everyone's enjoying it.

And it's a great,

you know, solution for what's going on right now.

And I'm just glad that we can have video and have audio because I was, I actually listened to so many podcasts this weekend, but I only watch them.

I will, I'm one of those, I'm a YouTuber who boycotts the show when it's not video.

So like, it needs, I, if I, you know, I need to talk the talk, walk the walk.

And I'm glad that we have video as well.

Otherwise, if it were me, I wouldn't be watching.

I agree.

I love a video podcast.

There's just nothing like seeing and hearing.

No, like when I see that someone is going on someone else's podcast and it looks like they have like an interesting combo, the only chance I have of watching is if it's video.

Yes, especially when it's like influencers, because I just love to see what people look like in real life.

A hundred percent.

Just the way people talk, the way their face moves.

It's all so interesting.

Couldn't agree more.

But I also think we can some people try to

intentionally not show us.

what they look like.

Worse.

I mean, if I had it my way, I would, if I was like really smart, I would invent like a YouTube that like films you in FaceTune and you can FaceTune your body and your skin.

But we can't hide from the podcast.

No, no, we can hide on the podcast.

We can't hide from the video.

But you know, that's what I meant.

Sorry, sorry.

Yeah, especially like the in-studio video.

Like what you look like is what you look like.

Yeah.

How was your weekend?

My weekend was good.

I mean, it was really crazy because once Brew and I did those shrooms, like everything just went off the rails.

Fell into place.

So it was good.

I mean, I was home.

I watched a lot of TV, and

I think that's really all I did.

I didn't read that much.

I started a new book last night that so far is so good.

Our friend Kristen's husband, Pete, recommended it, and the last book he recommended to me was my number one book of 2021, Portrait of a Mirror.

So

I will take a recommendation from him anytime.

But yeah, I watched, oh, I watched 1883.

Okay.

So good.

It's like a movie.

Every episode is a movie.

And it's all about like the journey out west, which I really don't know a lot about.

So I was just so enjoying.

And then I watched Victoria.

I'm watching it again.

I'm on season two.

You need to watch.

I know it's on my list of things, but I was very busy this weekend watching the Hype House Netflix show so that I could talk about it here.

And I have so many thoughts.

Overall, positive or negative?

When I was watching it, I was like, the show's amazing.

But it went on too long for a show that's like actually about nothing.

and in the grand scheme of things like i know a lot about the tick tockers they didn't get like the good ones you know but they got hootie little

hoodie little hootie and he was kind of like the um the center of the show because he left hype house during filming so it was all about him he's like very much decided to be a musician and not a social media star and there was a lot of takeaways from the show um one of the takeaways was that like i love nikita dragon i didn't really know who she was like i knew her journey i knew she was like one of the first people to go through

gender transition on YouTube.

And that, like, made her an icon.

But what I've known about her in recent years is just like her scandals.

And just getting to like see her on a personal level.

She's so funny.

I feel like if I hung out with her, I would just love her.

I think the show actually did great things for certain of certain cast mates.

Like I think Nikita's popularity has to have gone up.

And some of the other characters like Alex and Thomas are just not coming off well on the show.

And I think they know that.

They've been making TikToks about how like Netflix produced them out.

Like, so bad.

Well, I would say that, like, anyone who came up on YouTube, even five years ago, like, so much of that is about personality.

So, so many of those influencers have like banging personalities because you have to be entertaining and keep up the conversation for long, long periods of time.

Now, with TikTok, like, that's not what it's about.

So, it makes complete sense to me that someone who, you know, came up before TikTok has more of a robust personality than someone who got famous for 15-second videos.

Yeah.

And so Nikita was the only one on the show who's like, um, not a TikToker at heart.

You know, she's a real social media personality.

All the other ones were kids who came up on TikTok and they're all living in this house and they're like fighting about money.

And they all come from kind of like, you know, difficult childhoods and they're all struggling with their mental health.

And honestly, I just didn't feel like them all living in this house together was the best thing for them.

And you could just see their mental health deteriorating and they're just like fighting about this dumb shit.

And this guy, Thomas, who started the Hype House, like, really feels, he's so bitter because he was like, we launched Charlie, Dixie, and Addison.

And it's like, well, actually, I could argue that Charlie, Dixie, and Addison launched you.

Like, the hype house was only interesting because of a couple of girls, like Avani.

And they've all left the Hype House.

They were never even a part.

When you hear them talk about it, like, they were never even a part of it.

They all like hung out and did a photo shoot in LA once.

And that like launched the hype house, but they were never officially a part of it.

They never lived in the house.

So it was really, really interesting.

I just wish that they had gotten the hype house like today like doesn't really exist in the way that it used to.

So they got the hype house TV show like a year too late.

Do they live, is the physical house the same house as the one from back in the day?

No.

So the way that I perceived it was that they moved, and this is why Lil Hootie didn't want to move in.

They recently moved into like an enormous house in Moore Park, which I believe is about an hour outside of LA and is clearly much cheaper because they're not making as much money as they used to as a, as a house.

I think individually they're all doing really well.

And so Lil Hootie, who's like wanting to work, he just got signed to a record label.

He doesn't want to move to this house that's an hour away.

He wants to be in LA, be able to work, you know, go to sessions or whatever.

So the hype house offered to pay for his house.

in you know closer to la and have some other people live there and it would be like the second the second hype house but hootie once he got into that new house he's just like not making content for the hype house he just doesn't want want, he just doesn't want it.

Yeah,

that makes sense.

Sometimes you outgrow the hype house.

Yeah,

the people that we were left with like aren't that famous.

And, oh, they're sticking around for a reason.

Do you remember when I went on this whole journey with you explaining to you these two TikTokers who were dating, Sienna Mae and Jack?

No, I only remember Nessa.

Okay.

Well, I did explain it to you.

They were like this really cute couple.

What's that from?

That's from.

I have no idea.

Wicked.

They were this like really cute couple who one day like broke up and then they were both like accusing each other of sexual assault.

It was so crazy.

And they like lived in the house or part of Hype House and they were cut from the show.

Like literally, I saw Sienna at they did this like fake wedding.

I'm like, oh man, she like when you think of the timeline, like they were together, they were in the house.

I'm sure they filmed so much because they were like two of the most popular, but they're so toxic that they were completely cut out of the show.

Damn.

So it was just really interesting if you're like an 11-year-old wannabe like myself.

And I did really enjoy it, except towards the end, I was like, the show has gone on for too long because nothing actually happened.

Okay.

Okay.

So it doesn't sound like I'm going to watch it, but you know what?

I do.

I saw it and I thought it was interesting.

Yeah.

And when I first started, me and Ben were like, this is really good.

Like it was really good.

It's so interesting to see how like their business works.

And so there's this company called Bang Energy, which is like, I know it as a TikTok brand.

It's like people are always like sipping on it and they're like sponsored videos.

So they sponsor the entire hype house and they pay for the house.

And I think in order for that brand deal to continue, they have to do like, I think they said four or eight videos a month on the hype house Instagram with the bang energy.

And no one does it.

Like if you like, none of the kids want to work on the hype house.

So I felt annoyed for Thomas that he's like running this brand.

These kids are living in the house and nobody wants to do anything for him.

But he was also like not really acknowledging like all the kids that he surrounds himself with, like they lift him up too.

100%.

And it sounds like Thomas, and I remember Thomas from back in the day.

And so he's been around this whole time.

It sounds like he's not really, people aren't really interested in him, but he like understands that like, you know, if we get all these people together together, we're interesting.

But like, he's kind of just like exploiting, not exploiting, because I don't know what practices he uses, but he's just like using them.

And then he's upset when it doesn't work out.

But it's like your intentions probably are shitty too.

No, and then like his girlfriend was on the show and like she was like a main character, even though she's relatively unknown.

And she's just like his biggest defender in the house.

And it just like didn't come off well because, well, yes, I understand your frustration, frustration Thomas that like you are running this business and no one's helping you like you're also not really talking about how you're literally like using everyone else too like everyone's using you and you're using them right right so it was a really interesting dynamic I don't know if I would recommend it definitely not for you and I don't I wouldn't say like definitely watch it but if you're interested in these types of things I thought it was interesting and just like content houses in general yeah no I'm glad that you watched it and that you gave a little recap I feel like I feel good about it I can I can move on It's not something you have to say, like you can miss it.

Okay.

I was planning on it, but I was like a little bit like what's going on over at the hype house.

So, right, so I know.

Um, we do have an official TV recap at the end of the show with Real House Size of Salt Lake City that was on last night.

But before we dive in, I have two major developments from over the weekend, okay?

Okay,

the first is that after you know, much demand, I have decided to

add a second show in Houston.

So, the tickets just went on sale.

If you go to girlwithnojob.com, girlwithnojob.com/slash tour, you can get those tickets in Houston the next day.

I'm doing a second show.

Tickets, tickets, tickets.

Tickets, tickets, tickets.

That's announcement one.

But the second announcement is more important.

Okay, I know what it is.

Okay, I agree.

So over the weekend, first of all, I had a great weekend.

On Friday night, Spritz hosted a party to celebrate Sophia LaCourt's birthday.

All the cool TikTokers were there.

I felt so old, but I was like fangirling hard for all of them.

Were you so involved?

Like, that's so exciting.

Yeah, it was like my dream.

Yeah.

No, the party looked amazing.

Sophia LaCourt is like the human embodiment of Spritz And it looked like so much fun.

It was a great party.

I had so much fun.

And my friend Gabe was there.

Now, for those who don't remember Gabe, remember, I would say maybe a month or two ago, I told you guys a story about how I went out and I fell.

And it was really, really embarrassing.

And I was like spending the whole weekend like just really trying to remember, figure out the layout of the room, who saw me.

And my friend Gabe, who was right in front of me, swore that he didn't see me fall.

So that really gave me peace.

He swore.

I don't remember them swearing.

I just remember.

He swore.

I just remember you asking him and he said no.

But he like said it so emphatically.

He's like, no, I promise.

Like, you didn't fall.

Okay.

Okay.

So, and that really gave me like reassurance because if he was convinced,

then who did?

Right.

And I was convinced everyone did.

But if he didn't, he was the closest to me.

So I don't know what compelled me when I saw him on Friday night to bring it up.

And I was like, you know, I really haven't been able to sleep since the last time I saw you when I fell.

Cause like, I know you didn't see it, but I just really felt like everyone in the room saw it.

And it's like my greatest shame.

You brought it up to him?

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, I thought he brought it up.

No, it's Jackie.

It's so ingrained in me.

Like I, when I saw him, it was the first thing I saw, I thought of.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Sorry.

I'm slowing down the story.

So I was like, I don't know what compelled me.

I was like, you really didn't see me fall.

And he was like, no, I did.

I was like, excuse me?

He's like, yeah, I don't want to make you feel bad, but like I totally saw like you on the floor on your back.

I'm like.

What?

This changes everything.

Now I like I've been spiraling with false information and now I have to spiral with correct information knowing most likely everyone at the party saw me fall.

You have to spiral even further because you were spiraling with like, you know, on a good day.

And everyone was like, you have no reason to worry.

Gabe didn't see.

Yeah.

Well, he did.

Yeah.

No, I don't think I ever said you had no reason to worry.

And I do appreciate the lie.

It was one of those lies that was like meant to protect me.

But deep down, like I knew, you know?

Yeah.

No, no, I know.

And I actually think he went about it the total right way because it's like, at the time, I don't think you could have handled the truth.

Like, you would have spiraled.

You were already spiraling and you were just like questioning everything.

But now it's like a few, like, I think that you've recovered.

And now it's like, you do need the information.

Like, the truth always comes to light.

And the truth will set you free.

Yeah.

I thought he brought it up because his friend's girlfriend heard you talking about it.

Oh, wait.

Yeah, wait.

Which is even funnier.

Yes.

Okay.

Hold on.

Wait.

No, he did say that Maya.

Yeah.

Listen to the total podcast and asked Gabe, like, did you see Claudia fall?

And he's like, yeah, of course.

Yeah.

Which is even funnier that he was

horrible until he saw you and he knew that you talked about it and that his lie made it onto the show.

Yeah.

I mean,

I don't really know where to go from here.

That's the thing.

Like,

was it too long ago to continue spiraling or does this new information like force me to spiral?

No, okay.

You need to put it behind you for sure.

You have not fallen since, correct?

Correct.

I did stumble, but I was just with Brian in the middle of of the street.

Like, no one saw.

Okay, that's fine.

The streets are shoes.

Same shoes, though.

The streets are shoes.

Same shoes.

It's not you.

It's these streets.

They were the same shoes that I fell in at the other party, but I love the shoes and I will not stop wearing them.

Okay, that's a problem because that would be like a real takeaway.

Like maybe I have to stop wearing these shoes.

But if you haven't fallen since, I think like you just need to focus on not falling going forward.

No, I think that's a really, really good takeaway for sure.

Because you can change the past and all we can do is learn from it.

Yeah.

But just the shame, like the sheer sheer shame, like every now and then, my mind will just like go to that moment and I want to die, like literally die.

Claude, in one way or another, we've all been there.

It might not be falling per se, might be saying something, might be doing something losery, like, but we have all been there.

We've all lived with the shame.

And it's a part of like, I think it really makes you stronger.

You know what?

Oh my God, this book that I was reading had the best quote at the beginning that it really sums it up.

I just like was making a lot of progress moving past it, and now I'm like back at square one.

Yeah, no, but this

quote.

I love a good inspirational quote.

Do share.

Okay, I don't know if I can get,

I would have to go to my Kindle to like get the exact quote, but it's humility comes from humiliation.

Like, I guess, but I just feel like I could get humility somewhere else.

I mean, this seems like a really fast track.

You're so humilial.

I'm so sure.

I'm so humble.

humili.

You're so humil, Claude.

And that's the important takeaway.

I just wanted to share that major life update with everyone who's been on this journey with me.

I appreciate you.

And the second thing I want, the third thing I wanted to share was that I got a message today, Jackie, from someone with the name Brandolynn.

I saw.

And she validated everything I said on Friday's episode.

She said, I just listened to Friday's episode and I'm Brandolynn, pronounced Branda Lynn.

And I cringe when people say Brandy Lynn.

So the name does exist.

It wasn't on the chalkboard, but it does exist.

Oh,

but you were saying Branlyn.

No, I think I said Brandolyn.

No, you said Branlyn, and then you said Brandy Lynn.

No, I think I said Branolin.

Okay, you know what?

You're going through a lot.

I'm going to let you have it.

Thank you.

Just let it go, okay?

Okay, okay.

Thank you.

It's gone.

It's been gone.

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How?

Yes, I am.

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Awesome.

Thank you, Claudia.

It's a pleasure.

Our first story is news from last night.

Very sad news.

Bob Sagett, the star of Full House and America's Funniest Home Videos, has died at the age of 65.

The comedian was reportedly found dead in his hotel room at the Ritz-Carlton in Orlando on Sunday afternoon following a performance in Jacksonville, Florida, Saturday night.

TMZ was the first to break the news.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office confirmed Sagett's death on Sunday after deputies were called just after 4 p.m.

local time.

The man was identified as Robert Sagett, the sheriff's office said, and pronounced deceased on the scene.

Detectives found no signs of foul play or drug use in this case, they tweeted.

Okay, this is like one of those things.

It reminds me of how I felt when I saw on Twitter when TMZ announced that Kobe Bryan had passed away.

Like, you think it's a hoax because it's just so impossible.

You know,

not an old person, not a sick person.

And I was just so in disbelief for a while until I really saw the Orange County Police Department

tweet that confirming that that it happened.

It was just really shocking and really, really sad.

And I feel like most people our age feel very connected to Bob Saggett, whether or not you've followed his work in the last 10 years.

We all grew up watching Full House, Danny Tanner, Good Morning, San Francisco.

Like it's just, he's really ingrained in so many of our childhood memories.

And this is so, so sad, so confusing.

Really shows you like

life is so crazy.

Like you could just be here one day and gone the next.

It's so short.

Yeah, it's so short.

This news was shocking.

And I think a lot of people were especially shocked, like based on his recent social media posts, like he was just having the time of his life performing and doing stand-up and this and podcasting.

Like he had a whole new like rebirth of his career.

Yeah, oh, for sure.

And like, especially his stand-up career as of recently, and then all of the tributes that have come out have really shown like how many people he impacted, both, you know, his fans and fellow comedians and how he really impacted the world of comedy.

And it's, it's such upsetting news.

You know, I did this Zoom, um, I think almost a year ago now.

It was like to celebrate Purim.

And it was like a bunch of Jewish comedians, um, like acting out the story of Purim, and Bob Sagitt was in it, and it was like such a big deal.

And he's so funny, and he just went off script a bunch of times and was just like, it was so cool.

And you see, like, every.

Every comedian who is now like sharing tributes, sharing stories, everyone says like the nicest guy, the most humble, like the genuinely funny guy.

And I think when it comes to

comedians, I think a lot of people always think like the first thought is, you know, there's so much like depression in comedy and so many people, you know, end up taking

the route of suicide.

And when you read these tributes from people, you just hear like how Bob was just like full of life and full of

he like helped other people through those moments.

Like Pete Davidson wrote some

really sweet tribute to uh to bob about so many of the times that he helped him and and pete's mom when pete was going through it right so he was just like this figure in the comedy community and it's so so sad yeah truly and i mean of course everyone like he's 65 years old which is not not old not old he was you know happy seemed to be healthy.

So I think a lot of people are questioning what happened.

Right.

No foul play, no signs of drugs.

Like, what happened?

What happened?

So, I mean, obviously, it will depend on his family and what they're willing to share.

But I think a lot of people are very confused by this.

Yeah, and he has a wife and three kids.

So it's just, it's really, really sad.

And this is just one of those things that was like all night, I just couldn't stop thinking about it.

It's just so shocking and so sad.

Yeah.

Terrible.

That's a big loss.

Yeah.

Well, pivoting to our next story, some mindless celebrity news.

Perfect.

Kaya Gerber is newly dating Austin Butler after her breakup with Jacob Alorty.

Now,

I can't remember if we've spoken about this.

I don't think so.

Okay, so Kaya is dating Elvis star Austin Butler after her breakup with Jacob Alorty.

Page six can confirm.

A source said they're newly dating.

Kaya thinks Austin is a sweetheart.

They're having a lot of fun getting to know each other.

So I just feel like I have so many thoughts.

Overall, cute, cuteness wins.

But I feel feel like there's just like this circle of young Hollywood people,

actors, et cetera, who just like keep dating each other.

So this was just like the next spoke on the wheel for both of them.

100%.

But I do really ship.

Like, I think this is so cute.

I have an extremely, extremely soft spot in my heart for Austin Mahomes.

Like, I don't know why.

I think it has a lot to do with the Carrie diaries and just like Austin Butler.

Oh my God.

Austin Mahomes.

That kid who was like fake.

Dating Camilla Cabello.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

He just came up on my TikTok like yesterday.

That's why I said his name.

Oh my God, that is so embarrassing.

Truly,

truly.

I really need to get off TikTok.

Okay.

I have an extremely special spot in my heart for Austin Butler.

I think he, and I think he's so cute and so handsome.

He really touched my soul in a really unique way when he was in the Carrie diaries.

And I stand him and Vanessa Ann for so long.

And I never thought I would get to a place where I'd be happy for him in a new relationship because to me, they were so OTP.

But I actually really like this.

And I think he has, like,

I wouldn't say he's like that famous.

Like, he hasn't acted in that much, but I think this Elvis thing,

I think he's about to be like a huge star.

Yeah, it's supposed to be the thing.

But you know what?

We've been talking about it for a really long time now.

And it's really not the time to become a movie star unless your movie is going to Netflix and it's, you know,

what's that?

Available on demand like yesterday.

Yeah, the kissing booth.

Like, I don't know that, like, even if this movie, Elvis, like, say, got to the right streamer and, like, everybody watched it,

I don't know if it's, it's not the same as it was pre-COVID or back in the day.

So I still think, like, it'll do really well for him, and he'll, but I just don't know if it's going to pop off how it would have if

this were 2019.

No, by the way, you're 100% right.

Like, there used to be movies that would, like, remember how we were all, like, quaking by

Slum Dog Millionaire?

Like, every person in the the world had seen, and there was like a movie like that a year.

Like being, you know, in the pictures was the biggest, best thing.

And now I'm thinking, I'm like, no, like there are TV shows that are so popular, launch like millions of careers to millions of people.

It's like not a thing anymore.

You're 100% right.

No, and also all of the shows that are coming out now that are like the big ones.

So I'm thinking of like 1883 specifically, like each episode is a movie.

Literally.

They're over an hour.

Some of these episodes, like Downton Abbey, some of the episodes were an hour and a half.

So, what, you did one hour and 45-minute movie, and we're supposed to care as much as a show that has taken over our whole lives, right?

Like, the first thing that comes to mind is Euphoria, even though I don't watch it.

But

the premiere was last night, and like, people are just fucking quaking.

And when you think of all the people in the show, like, yes, it didn't launch Zendaya, Zendaya launched it, but Jacob Alordi, like, well, that was huge for him, Sydney, um, Sydney Sweeney.

Like, it's just TV is like it now.

Yeah, no, the movie industry like has crashed not with a thud, but with a whimper.

And I think it's no clearer than the fact that the Golden Globes were on last night.

Not were on.

They weren't on.

Well, they weren't.

Twelve happened somewhere and the winners were announced somewhere and they're Twitter news, but like nobody cares.

Yeah, no, it's wild.

And I think it's...

I don't even think it's a generational thing because it used to be like, the way that I see it, it's like only kids watch TV, you know.

But now it's like really motion picture quality shit is happening on streaming services with TV shows.

No, it used to be like not just kids watch TV, but like there was, you know, the movie stars and TV stars.

And like being on the small screen was just like, you're, you're always going to try and be a movie star, and it's just not going to happen.

But you could have a lot of like commercial success and make a lot of money.

So that's, that's pretty sweet.

But now it's like, I would rather be in Queen's Gambit than a

two-hour movie.

No, and I think that's like so evident with Zendaya.

Like Zendaya is, in my opinion, probably one of the most sought-after actresses of our time right now.

And

five years ago, if someone was in Zendaya's position, they would not be doing television shows.

But Euphoria is like one of her most popular

gigs.

Yeah.

I don't know why I keep bringing up Euphoria, but it's a good example.

Yeah, considering you don't watch.

Never seen it, but I have been like slightly like into it just because everyone's talking about it.

you should watch it i feel like you would like it and it would connect you to the younger generation to the youth yeah i just feel like it's the type of show that would give me anxiety you know yeah i i think i tried to watch the first episode once and it was just not it was not for me and i and that's that's not to say it's not a good show because people love it no no no and i and not to say that it wasn't a good show it was not for me yeah there are plenty of things that are not good shows that are for me and plenty of things that are good shows that are not for me

speaking of uh great shows though um Snitch just let me know that there's like a rumor floating around that Victoria's season four is not going to happen because of COVID.

And I just, I need to, I'm going to try something.

I'm going to manifest.

Oh, yes.

You should do it.

Repeat after me.

Repeat after me.

Okay.

I don't chase.

I don't chase.

I attract.

I attract.

What is mine?

What is mine?

Will find me.

Will find me.

That just seems like really self-centered for like a show that probably costs like millions of dollars to put on.

They can afford it.

And like, you know, the whole.

No, people love it.

And you know what?

They will figure it out in a safe way.

They absolutely have to.

It's an incredible, incredible show.

And actually,

into our next story, which is Kate Middleton's nod to royal history, the Duchess of Cambridge's Regal Black and White 40th birthday photo shoot channeled classic portraits of the queen, Princess Margaret, and the queen mother.

So Kate Middleton is turning,

her 40th birthday was yesterday in Kensington Palace.

Oh, I didn't realize it was for her 40th.

She looks great.

Yeah, they released three portraits revealing sides of the Duchess of Cambridge, rarely seen by the public.

The pictures were taken by Italian fashion photographer Paolo Riversi in Kew Gardens.

She is wearing Alexander Merquin's.

Excuse me, she took these in Queens.

That's so true.

I didn't realize Q, K-E-W-H, K-E-W Gardens.

So she took the train to Flushing for these photos.

1,000%.

I'm shook.

A cultural icon the photos are very reminiscent of you know some earlier photos of the royal family which is really interesting it actually made me think a lot because i feel like for centuries all the royal portraits look the same because they were you know painted or

you know done with like not high definition photography but now like it would be weird to have like picture actual the pictures that they take like hanging around the palace next to like gilded photos you know painted by

michelangelo No, they have to maintain like a similar aesthetic.

Yeah, so, and I think they did a really good job on that front because this picture like reminds me of like the pictures I Google of Queen Victoria.

Yes, I think the art direction is really like on point.

I just didn't like love, I think, like, I just didn't think the photos highlighted her beauty.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Like, they weren't that flattering, and she's like the most gorgeous woman in the world.

It's like not hard.

Yeah, I would agree with you, but I mean, I'm sure she had complete editorial approval.

I'm sure they took a million photos, and these were the ones that she liked.

So,

so that's fine.

They're not bad by any means, but to me, she's like this great beauty, and it shouldn't be, you know, hard to find the right

light and angle for her.

And I just didn't feel like these were her best shots.

I hear that, but I also think that like the look, like the glam and the dresses are very timeless.

Whereas a lot of times we see her, and she looks very much like a 2020 woman.

You know, she's got

she has the beachy waves, she's wearing self-portrait, you know.

But I think that these photos really blend well into the context of royal family portraits.

Classic, timeless.

I agree.

Right.

And it was, it's cool to like see always.

But like the main one that's being sent around, like with her shoulder in front, like I literally didn't know who that was.

Is that the black and white one?

Yes.

No, she's wearing the red dress.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's not the one I've been seeing the most.

I've been seeing this black and white one the most, but yeah.

We'll share them on our Instagram.

They're beautiful.

I'm not trying to be a hater at all.

I just, I was like surprised.

Yeah, but it's always funny, like, what, like, you could take a picture and I'd be like, you look sickening.

And you're like, I look disgusting.

I like this one.

I'm like, I would never choose that for you.

A hundred percent.

Like, the way you see, the way, and I feel like this is true for like most people, the way you see yourself and the way that others see you, like, two totally different journeys.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So this was pretty cool.

I feel like it's been a while since we've gotten some iconic queeny shit.

I feel like the last time we saw like iconic photos was like Harry and Megan's wedding and like they were all together in the living room.

Yeah, and I mean like the

Kate and William put out like their family portraits at Christmas and everything, but like those aren't the sort of things that get hung up around the palace because they're very

modern, modern.

They just get framed on Queen's desk.

And they go to like Instagram for Kensington Palace.

100%.

I think I officially just followed their Instagram.

I have to say after the marketing dropped the marketing team over at Kensington and like all the different palace Instagrams is pretty, pretty good.

Yeah, I follow the royal family, their official account.

And I think I did, I think I might have pressed the follow on this one after like, you know, being there so many times.

At Kensington Royal.

At Kensington Royal.

Yeah, that's the one.

Or is it Duke and Duchess of Cambridge?

I think it's Kensington Royal.

There's so many.

So many.

But you can find the pictures on our Instagram.

Don't worry.

Thanks.

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Now, our next next story is chaotic, chaos from our chaotic queen, Claire Crawley.

A new man.

Claire Crawley is cozing up to a new man who is also a former contestant on her season of The Bachelorette, Blake Monar.

She says this is what her soul needed.

So

this is like a trend right now where the leads are going back into the pile of discards for sloppy seconds and choosing a new.

And I just, it makes a lot of sense, but it also

is confusing that, like,

someone would go for that.

You know what I mean?

Right, because in one way or another, it's just kind of like going back to your ex, but wouldn't you be kind of butthurt if like someone didn't pick you and then like it didn't work out with the person they thought was better than you so they come back like crying to you yeah but like this is even crazier I can understand like like that's like an Ari Lauren situation I can understand like in the height of the moment, you make the wrong choice based on the

and that's different than this which is like I think I don't even recognize this guy And we watched her season.

So, like, he must have went home like week one, two, or three.

Like, she didn't even

like never even give him a chance.

Got to like

any sort of level with him, didn't look twice at him.

So, that's like more surprising.

Yeah, because like what comes to mind is like when Peter, after, you know, trying to date everyone, finally ended up with

Kelly.

And like, for me, that wasn't like offensive because I do think, like, at the end of the day, they were the most well-suited for each other.

And even when they were, when we were watching the show, I was like, really surprised she went home at number four.

But yes, like kind of picking someone random from a pile of discarded men does seem weird to me.

Yeah.

And that he would go for it because, like, if someone sent me home night one, I, there's just nothing more offensive.

No, like, you didn't think I was more like beautiful enough.

You didn't think I was interesting enough.

You didn't think I was like, nothing about me stood out to you.

You didn't like my dress.

You didn't like the way that I spoke.

You didn't like my little, you know, gift at the beginning.

Like, you didn't like anything about me.

I don't know when this guy did go home, though.

It had to have been early because we would recognize him and he would have been like around for Tayshia and stuff.

That's true.

I'm like, it's just Blake Monar.

When did he go home?

I don't know.

But I'm happy for Claire that she is, you know, in a new relationship.

And I just, I wonder why this is, this seems to be happening more now.

Like, obviously, Katie Thurston is dating someone from her season that she didn't choose in the end.

but it never really used to happen.

Maybe

on social media,

yeah, because they get to like keep in contact.

Yeah,

I don't know, or maybe, like, people are really just keep making the wrong, like, maybe the show production has just gotten so off the rails that it's not conducive to people making good choices.

He was eliminated on week two.

Okay, that's night one.

Very, very sad.

I can't say, like, if that were me, I definitely am too, you know, egotistical.

I would be so fucking butthurt.

I would not, but Blake is a better man than us.

Yeah, and maybe I hope that they're meant to be.

I really hope that they get married.

Um, and then it's all good.

All I want is a happy ending for Claire.

Yeah, me too.

Do you think Dale is crying?

No.

What is Dale up to?

They collectively were the most toxic couple, I think, to ever come out of bachelor franchise.

And I don't know what he's up to.

Living his best life.

I hope so.

Best wishes.

Best wishes.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

No.

Yes.

I've been like botching them from home.

I'm like nervous.

Maybe like close your eyes.

Pretend you're in the studio.

Okay.

It's the final story.

Okay, hold on, hold on.

Yeah, I bought you.

I missed it.

I don't miss it.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Here's the thing.

I stopped singing with you because I thought there was a delay in our recording, but it's a delay in you.

Let's try it.

No, it's not.

It's on.

It's on.

No, I swear.

Listen, let's try and sing it together.

Put the mic.

Put the triangle down.

No.

Three, two, one.

It's the final story.

No, it's not working.

No, it's working for me.

Okay, three, two, one.

It is the final story.

It's the final story.

Justice for Blake.

Best of all luck with Clare.

I have to listen to that.

how we did it because for me it sounded like janky as hell.

No, for me it sounded right, but it felt like your arm was moving too slow.

No, it wasn't.

See, like, that's just the technology.

Don't doubt my rhythm, bitch.

Technology can't keep up with our musical inclinations.

And we were gonna need it.

It's just like crazy.

You know, we can send a man to the moon, but we can't sing the final story together remotely.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.

But our fifth and final story, which will lead into our TV recap, which was that Mary Cosby bailed on the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion, which likely means she is not returning for season three.

That is so disappointing.

I hate when people don't show up to reunions.

Like, it's so unfulfilling.

So, sources are saying that she didn't attend the reunion and sources being page six because she didn't.

Sandy confirmed it.

No, no, no.

Yes, everyone knows she wasn't there, but they're speculating as to why.

And they're scared that she was scared.

They said that she's scared of being grilled over her season two controversies.

The source said she was terrified of getting grilled about her racist comments made towards Jenny and Jen.

She also did not want to discuss the accusations that she runs a cult.

Right.

Like she was walking into like a true lion's den because she has not been held even remotely accountable on the show for the atrocious things she said.

And honestly, like Meredith, who was like really like a favorite of mine, like she's really just digging herself into a grave with Mary.

It's so weird.

And now like Mary left her high and dry at the reunion.

But then also like there is so much coming out on the internet about Mary and not even stuff that they've addressed on the show, like more stuff about the church.

I don't really read read it.

I can't get into it because it's like so complicated, but there's like a lot.

About the church.

Yes, and just like mishandlings, misappropriating money,

you know, manipulating people, like bad shit.

Got it.

I mean, I don't know.

I found this to be surprising.

Even though, like, she has a lot to answer for at the reunion,

if I had to guess like who wasn't showing up, I wouldn't have guessed her.

I feel like she's constantly like

she just doesn't care enough about anything to not show up.

Right.

And this like, really solidifies the fact that she won't be on the next season, which, like, really doesn't bother me that much.

She's kind of irrelevant to the storyline.

She's like, very much like a funny character and has like funny moments, but a lot of times she also takes away from whatever is going on.

So, I don't think it's like a major loss.

But I did find this surprising because, even throughout the season, especially with the church stuff, every time it comes up, she'll go there and try and explain herself.

And I feel like last season at the reunion, they did bring it up and she explained how she has all of this wealth and all of these things.

So, I don't know.

I expected more from her.

And I honestly, a part of me feels like

I saw like a funny tweet that like her assistant like forgot to tell her.

No, totally.

It was reunion day.

No, totally.

She's so messy.

Like that totally could have happened.

Right.

No, I'm disappointed in the sense that like we're investing all this time in this season, which by the way, I'll get into in the recap, is not good.

Oh my God.

Sorry, I said it.

It's not fucking good.

Oh my God.

I'm in shock over.

last night's episode.

Right.

And so we're putting all of this time into it and we're not, and the reunion is where we get our questions answered.

And the fact that we're not going to get that from Mary, even though so much of the discourse is about Mary, is really frustrating as a viewer.

It's just like, I feel let down and I'm like fucking annoyed, honestly.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't feel as annoyed about like the Mary stuff.

It seems based on what we're seeing on the show of like.

Carson, the guy's name was Carson, right?

Cameron.

Cameron, sorry.

Cameron says this.

I've heard that.

Mary says this.

It all seems very like personal, you know.

He said she said.

Yeah, he said she said, like, this is how I experienced it.

This is my truth.

And it's hard.

There's not a lot of like concrete facts.

So I just find myself like, you know, wishy-washy on the whole thing.

And

without the facts and without, you know, if she is running like a fraudulent cult, then there should be some sort of, you know, prosecution or something.

And there's nothing like that.

So it's like, no, right.

Like, Whitney is not the FBI.

Right.

But, but, but by the way, the FBI is coming for someone on your show, and we're going to.

Who you're best friends with.

But we're going to continue to talk about how Mary might think that she is God.

Like, it's moronic.

It's moronic.

So

it's disappointing that she didn't show up to the reunion.

I don't really need more discussion about the church stuff because there is nothing concrete.

Yeah.

And just to be honest, we'll dive into like a full TV recap, but like my general takeaway from all of this is like, you know, these women were kind of gifted this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be a part of an iconic, historic storyline on housewives.

And I just think at the end of the day, like, they're not experienced enough to handle it.

They only have one season under their belts.

They don't know how to navigate something like this.

And they are fucking it up so dreadfully.

Like, I was doing everything in my power last night to not scroll TikTok.

Like, it was impossible.

When they went to commercial breaks, I was like, thank the fucking heavens I can go on TikTok.

It was so bad.

And I don't know if I'm the only one who feels this way, but like, I am inclined to stop watching.

Like, I started to dread the episodes.

I am inclined to stop watching.

The conversation that took place on the bus,

first of all, in general, they have completely fumbled the ball on this Jen Shaw thing.

Like, Jen Shaw gets arrested by the feds, Homeland Security, and NYPD, and it turns into a referendum on Mary's job.

Not Jen.

That makes no fucking sense to me.

Let's do one thing at a time, ladies.

One thing at a time, but sure.

One thing at a time.

The conversation on the bus was the most illogical thing I have ever heard in my life.

Like, I, this idea that, like, when Jen said in her testimonial, who hires a private investigator unless you're hiding stuff too?

What?

Not true.

What are you talking?

Like, what are you talking about?

Also, Meredith has said repeatedly, I hired a private investigator to investigate these text messages.

That led me to Jen.

I didn't hire a private investigator on Jen herself.

Oh, and Jen stole from Meredith's store.

it's so crazy, and then Jen is like sitting there saying to Lisa, you'll stand by someone who would hire a private investigator who would dig up dirt on people, you're gonna be friends with someone like that.

That's a reflection on you, okay.

If that's by that logic, if I'm friends with Jen Shaw, um, and she has

a reflection on old people over the last

like many years.

Is that a reflection on me?

Because I would hope that it's not.

I would hope that you would argue against that sort of logic that, like, we can be friends, and you can be going through something or doing something that potentially I don't agree with, but I can be there to support you.

She's like, completely contradictory.

You can call her on it.

And the fact that everyone's just like sitting on the bus, like, and having to bad mouth Meredith.

And it's like, if Meredith's guilty of anything, it's just like not doing enough.

Right.

Like, she's done nothing controversial, really,

except her friendship with

Mary.

But like,

it's crazy how the level of conversation, like the heightened level of conversation when it's like,

it's so bizarre to me.

And the fact that they're on the bus and they're all like harking back to the last time we were on the bus.

It's like funny.

Jen got, you know, arrested by the feds.

Right.

No, it's not funny.

It's not funny.

It's, it's so crazy.

She's just getting off scot-free.

It's crazy.

Well, like, I guess we're diving into the TV recap.

Is that correct?

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So

can I tell you what really bothered me about the episode?

Sure.

Everyone like quaking, being so confused as like, there's something more going on that Meredith doesn't want to be friends with Jen.

Really?

Like, how we could all sit back and watch what Jen did and said to Meredith's child.

Like, you don't fuck with someone's child.

Of course, Meredith would never want to be friends with Jen.

And now all this information is coming out about Jen potentially being like the most horrible person on the planet.

Why the fuck would Meredith want to be friends with her?

And why does that confuse everyone?

Like, why are Heather and Whitney like sitting around stewing?

Like, what else could it be?

Nothing.

No, no, no.

Literally, nothing.

There has to be something bigger than a federal indictment into Jen that would make Meredith not want to be her friend after a whole year of her her still not wanting to be her friend.

And based on everything that Meredith has seen from Jen, I would conclude that Meredith believes that the feds have their facts straight.

It's just, of course, right.

Like if you believe that Jen did those things, you wouldn't want to be her friend.

I'm going to assume that the ladies who are standing by her

don't think that she did it, which is how they can, you know,

be there to be her friend.

Otherwise, like, how can you be friends with someone who would do like such evil things like that?

But it's also within Meredith's rights to to say, no, I think that

you might have done that.

Like Lisa Barlow was onto something.

Whitney and Heather, bad weather.

They really are having the worst second season of all time.

Like equal with Leah McSweeney.

Like she had a really bad second season.

They are so on the wrong side of history.

Everything that comes out of their mouth is so stupid.

And I just want to say that whole boob cake thing was really inappropriate, but it was also really inappropriate of like everything Seth says about Whitney's boobs.

Like good on Whitney for like making a joke out of it.

But like if that were me, like I'd literally slit my husband's husband's throat.

Yeah, no, that was, you know, every relationship is different.

And I just can't imagine, like, if my husband said that once, we would go home and I'd be like, and you never say that again.

But it's clearly that.

And you're never leaving this house ever again.

It's usually just like a running joke within the group.

I'm glad that, like, Meredith and Whitney are fine with it.

I think most people would not be.

I think the person who was really, it's so hard.

Everybody is having a bad season.

Probably, you know, shockingly, Jens isn't even in the worst.

Shockingly, completely agree.

Shocking, but someone who's really, really up there is Heather, especially considering she was such an MVP the first season.

And even last night, she said, like, she was right about something that she was wrong about.

And she was like, and I was right.

And I'm always right.

I'm like, no, you're fucking not.

No, she is literally stinking it up.

Everything that comes out of her mouth is like stupid and wrong.

And I loved her.

And I just don't know what's going on.

And I think that it's like this thing that happens when you have an amazing first season, like everyone loves you.

You think think like you could say and do whatever you want.

We've seen it happen a million times.

And I find it more interesting when like a housewife has a really bad first season.

Like Doreen, like I literally never hated someone so much in my life than Doreet and Eileen Davidson, like two of the woatiest woats ever.

And they both have come out as some of my favorite housewives of all time.

So starting strong is like the worst thing because you just get this like ego, I think, where everyone loves you.

They're turning everything you say into like memes and you think that you like you just can't get arrested when like everything you're saying sucks no and it's like you if you have a great first season you're really like on the right side of a lot of the arguments and like you're just really this like force for the voice of the audience then you just assume that like everything that you think is correct and what and what people want to hear and then you also go even harder because you have a little bit of encouragement and you don't see yourself just because you were right in the past about like 10 out of 10 things doesn't mean you're going to be right about the 11th too no a hundred percent so it's just like it's hard for me to like find any sort of interest in my soul for this show because I don't, I can't stand by a single woman.

Like I can't say like I would be on her side.

I agree with her wholeheartedly 100%.

I agree

completely.

They're all so messy and they all are so fucking over the place.

Like the fact that Whitney and Heather, especially Whitney, like Heather has always been like spineless loser, desperate friend for Jen.

But the fact that Whitney, who was like going so hard on the bus and in bail, has now now done a complete 180 and is like so up Jen's butt, it's so confusing.

Like they all stand for nothing.

It's so confusing.

I'm, so I'm trying to think of like, who do I agree with most?

Probably Meredith, but not even.

Yeah, or honestly, maybe Lisa.

I knew, I agree.

But she's like, when she's wrong, she's so wrong.

And she digs her heels in like so hard and yells.

And she definitely is like an annoying person to hang out with, like, just like very loud, very all the time.

Yeah, yeah,

and they are, they are trying to do like a thing with the husbands, like making it very New Jersey house-wise.

Like, Seth had a confessional.

I personally like it.

I love all of the husbands, and it's it can't be worse than the wives.

No, and they're getting like they're actually friends, and they have funny conversations.

I'm here for it.

If you're in a city where it works out,

I personally love to see it.

There are certain husbands I really like.

I love Whitney's husband, like love.

Okay, and is it just I tried to tell you this, but you didn't, um, you didn't see it, but maybe you see it now.

He looks like Hannah Brown.

What?

Like, google pictures of each of them.

They look alike.

I think they're related.

Jackie, what the fuck are you talking about?

Claudia, you want his name?

What?

John?

Justin.

I'll just Whitney Rose's husband.

Yeah.

Okay.

You only need to look at a picture of him to see it.

Oh, just came up.

Who is Justin Rose?

Whitney Rose's husband sued for running a pyramid scheme.

Okay, I'm like not seeing it.

You're not.

I actually like am.

Hold on.

I got to make a side-by-side collage.

Yeah,

we'll put it on the Instagram and we'll let people sound off and let us know if you see what I'm seeing.

He's so cute.

I really, really like him.

And then John, Lisa's husband, like gives me absolutely nothing.

I don't like him.

I don't dislike him.

He's just like boring and quiet.

I'm like kind of over Seth.

Said this a lot yeah he's like he thinks it's about him and it's like it's not i like him still though but but he's a lot but also like he's like the joe gorga of the group like he yes you know is a lot but he's gonna get everyone together and doing crazy stuff i would have loved to have seen roberts senior golfing with the guys but that's just like never gonna happen yeah Maybe that would be the thing to like bring Mary in because it's like as much as Whitney and Lisa fucking hate each other.

I've never seen two people who like literally get under each other's skin just by breathing more.

Like their husbands really get along and like it's not even, yes, they have to like stay tethered to each other because of the show, but also like that element makes it to like, okay, I have to like be a little more patient with you.

Yeah.

And like the Sharif of it all, I used to really respect him because he was like this man of like honor, you know, like football.

Like,

and I guess, I mean, I don't expect him to like turn on his wife, but just like buying into her lies and delusion, I'm like, I thought you were like a, you know, an honorable man.

Yeah.

And I just want to say one thing that I saw when they were doing their couple's therapy

paintings.

And then like she, Jen showed hers and then Sharif showed his.

I just want to say that both of the paintings had the same handwriting on them.

So I'm pretty sure.

So what are you suggesting?

I'm just suggesting that.

I don't know if Jen did both or like one of the assistants did both and it was just like completely fucking fake, but they were the exact same handwriting and they were painting so it's like that's really hard to do yeah so very very interesting yeah just something that stood out to me i really appreciate that it's a very detailed note you took and then it's like what so what the fuck am i watching this for like i don't want to watch couple therapy no

couple therapy There were so many skippable scenes, that being like the one that comes to mind first.

And the party was just like weird.

It's like daytime and everyone was wearing like evening gowns.

Yeah, and no dancer in the pool.

like and then everyone jumping in the pool.

Oh my god, when Heather almost fell, like, I swear to God, I felt that in my belly.

Like, I felt so much shame for her.

Like, I related to that wholeheartedly.

Like, if she had gone down any further and like actually hit the floor, she would have had my deepest sympathies.

Yeah, it's really shocking.

Like, this franchise had everything going for them.

They had an amazing first season, and then they had this major national news story,

and it's become one of my least favorite.

I mean, it's so hard because they're all so bad.

It's become really hard to watch when I was so excited about this season.

100%.

So that's 100%.

Yeah.

So we'll keep watching, but I can't confirm how much longer I'll go for.

No, I will go till the, we have to see this thing through, but

it's, it's really disappointing.

I expected so much more.

And I think like Jenny sucks.

Yeah, I would agree.

She's hanging on to the show by a thread, and that thread is named Carlin.

100%.

And even when they're like all fighting on the bus, and she's like, it's just,

it's, I can't explain how and why this, everything is so illogical, but it just is.

No, I feel that.

You know, and me trying to see like logic in understanding what's backwards about it is driving me insane.

I'm literally still laughing that you think Whitney's husband looks like that.

It's so funny.

You don't understand.

I told you this weeks ago and you and I think you wrote back like, huh?

You didn't even look into it.

I'm gonna make a collage.

Like I love a collage and that's the only way I can really see like side by side people.

He really looks like her.

Maybe they are related.

I don't think so.

You never know.

You do never know.

That's a good call.

So let us know.

You guys will let us know what you think about my call.

I usually have some pretty good calls and they're really, they're really out there.

But when I see, when I know, when I see it, like I see it.

When you know, you know.

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