S4 Ep216: Is Doody Funny?: Wednesday, December 15th, 2021
- Mason Disick advises Kim Kardashian not to let North West go live again (Page Six)
- Ben Affleck Says He's 'Probably Still Be Drinking' If He Stayed Married to Jennifer Garner (PEOPLE)
- The Voice Crowns a New Champion! Found Out Who Won Season 21 (PEOPLE)
- Kathy Hilton reportedly returning to 'RHOBH' after getting more cash (Page Six)
- Stephen Curry Makes History, Breaks the NBA's All-Time 3-Point Record: 'Officially the Greatest' (PEOPLE)
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to the morning toast and happy hump day.
We made it to the middle of the week.
Congratulations.
Pat yourselves on the back.
You did it.
You deserve it.
Woohoo.
Happy hump day, everyone.
What an exciting day.
We're cruising down the hill of the week.
We are getting over the hump, and that's really exciting.
It's really exciting.
And you know what?
I didn't even realize it was hump day.
That's why I love my job.
Let me tell you why.
Because at 10.30 every morning, I know what day it is.
You know, I didn't even think about what day it was at all while I was getting dressed.
Only when I, when the words came out of my mouth, did I realize it was Wednesday, and now I've just been given like a burst of joy.
Yeah, I realized it was Wednesday, but I never realized it's hump day until we're sitting here talking about how we're gonna hump someone we love today.
Until I come into the studio and wrap my legs around you,
I'm looking for you.
So, yes, by the way, we only have three more shows left in the year 2021.
Including this one.
Speaking of 2021, we actually recorded such a fun podcast episode yesterday, reviewing and recapping all of our favorite things of the year.
TV shows, books, songs, stories, music, etc.
And it was a great way to round up the year and move forward into the next one.
Yeah, I feel like I kind of unburdened myself in the podcast episode.
Like, this is what I liked.
I'm ready for new things.
And it's important to just like take stock of your year, where you're at.
Of course, like you need to, you know, look in the rear view in order to see where you're going.
And I feel as though that's what we did.
You know, I feel as though that is.
I love year-end reviews.
I honestly, I wish there were more like in the stories and stuff.
There haven't been like a ton of like best of
recaps.
And I always just love them.
Me too.
What would you say was besides like for what we enjoyed?
Like what was the TV show of the year?
Because last year it was like so Queen's Gambit.
Oh.
What do you feel like the biggest show of the year?
So it would have to be something something that was like a one season
like the first season of something.
Like I feel like it might be like White Lotus.
Oh my god, yeah.
I forgot about White Lotus.
White Lotus, I don't want to spoil anything, but it didn't make my top five best TV shows list.
Only because while it was like probably one of the biggest shows of the year, I didn't find myself enjoying it.
Like, the show was so fucking slow.
But that was, I think, the show everyone kind of like gathered around and like became obsessed with briefly.
Yes, I completely forgot about White Lotus.
I wonder if I would have remembered if it would have been on my tops.
Probably not, because I didn't like it until the end.
Of course.
And then, like, I had to watch a man take a dump.
Everything.
That was so funny.
Even though it was so uncalled for and unnecessary, it was genuinely funny.
It was original.
And like, I don't find duty funny.
No, you don't.
But they made it really funny.
No, like you read, you know, Frannie and Zoe.
You don't find duty funny.
No, I don't find duty funny, but it was a funny duty.
I'm not going to lie.
Like I have, you know.
I have found duty funny.
It's okay.
I wouldn't say I frequently find duty funny, but I'm not going to lie to my audience and say I've never found duty funny.
You know.
There's two types of people in this world.
People who find duty funny and people who don't.
And I'm sorry, like sometimes duty is funny.
Like, that's the name of today's episode, 100%.
Is duty funny?
Question mark.
We've got a great show for you guys today.
Fast five.
We've got a little TV recap.
Vanner Pump Rules was on last night, and my blood was boiling.
My blood was truly boiling over.
My blood was boiling, but you know what I did this morning?
I finally took our advice from a few weeks ago of listening to a podcast
while I got ready because there's been one episode I've been dying to listen to and that's Give Them Lala with Sophia with an F.
Oh.
I thought you were going to say the one where she like talks about.
No, no, no.
I feel like, so there's been a few where people are like, she's talking about it.
Listen here.
Right.
And it's still been pretty vague.
And I actually felt like in her interview with Sophia, she talked about it more than she does when she's like sitting down to talk about it.
Did you?
I need to let everyone know Lala and Grandler are not getting back together.
No, of course not.
Like not even close.
Do you know that Lala filmed the reunion remotely while everyone else was there?
And Katie did too, because Katie got sick that morning.
I saw it on her Instagram.
I didn't say whether or not it was COVID, but I guess if like you're running a fever and not feeling well, like don't go into the office.
Yeah, of course.
And that's just a good lesson that everybody should learn.
Beyond COVID, like I think, yeah.
Like the fact that people were like just going in sick before.
Well, the fact that you get like a certain number of sick days, like I can't control my body.
Yeah.
No, that was just a crazy thing that I hope does not come back.
Like, so eat if you're sick, even if it's not COVID.
Stay the fuck home.
Totally.
I completely agree.
That's sick.
Okay, so we'll talk about Vanna Prump Rolls in the TV recap segment.
But how was your day?
How was your Tuesday?
It was, it was good.
You You know, it was another Brews day.
We actually were really bonded yesterday and things were going well.
Our heated blanket finally arrived.
And even though it wasn't exactly what I thought it was going to be from QBC,
it still has been really special and I think Brew is enjoying it.
I'm so loud.
So that's what matters most to me.
What matters most to me is the fact that I was alone last night watching the Knicks game because Ben was like, turn it on, I think you could see me.
And like, of course I couldn't see him.
But then, I guess it was like some big deal next game.
Actually, we'll be talking about it in the stories.
You're lying.
It was some big sports news.
Wow, was it a really bleak day for stories?
Yeah, and I told you that.
But I didn't realize it was that bleak.
You looked, you knew.
I did look, yeah, but I figured you had all the bases covered.
No, and I love a little sports news.
And this seems like a big deal.
And because Ben was there, it's a bigger deal.
And you know what?
Let's not...
Lest we not forget that last time we spoke about sports news, we literally predicted who would win the Super Bowl because it wasn't the San Francisco 49ers time.
It wasn't.
No, it really wasn't.
Who was your pick again for who's going to be in the Super Bowl this this year?
I don't fucking remember.
For some reason, I thought it was the Bills versus the Bucs.
I did say something like that.
Everyone was like, honestly, that's a really good call.
But I swear to God, I was watching TV on Sunday.
Like, Zach was watching a game on Sunday, and it was the Bills versus the Bucs.
So does that mean my thing's not possible?
Maybe it was,
maybe it wasn't that.
I don't know.
You know what?
Bills versus Bucs sounds good.
Yeah, no, the Bills are really having a great season.
Are they?
That's what I've been hearing from the chatter.
From, you know, when I go to make a snack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I think of the Bills, I think of all those videos of people throwing themselves onto folding tables.
Okay.
And then I also think of O.J.
Simpson.
Because he played for the Bills, did he?
Yeah, like that's, I think, how he got famous.
I always think about, I just remember seeing a video of like when the team returned, they like got really far and like the whole, like all the fans in Buffalo like went to the airfield and were standing outside the fences like so excited to see them.
You know what else I think about?
Chasing Tardick, because he's like obsessed with the Bills.
And then now I think of Josh Allen, who's the quarterback, who I watched this, you know, this promotional package about, and he just seems like a really great guy.
Oh, got it.
You know what I think about when I think about Josh Allen?
I think I relate to this man because he was like the number one pick in the draft and somebody exposed his tweets and he went from being number one to being like number a thousand.
Really?
But he's still, then he got like on the Browns, which is like the worst team of all time because like he was, you know, dropped.
But then he picked himself back up, you know?
Got it.
Sounds like draft day, honestly, especially if the Browns drafted him.
And you know what?
What do they say about draft day?
You never know what could happen.
You never know what could happen on draft day.
And that's the sports segment from Jackie and Claudia.
The first one of many.
Yes.
So let's just fucking do it.
Let's jump right into the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.
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Our first story is some really, really cute sweet news about the campers in the Kardashian family.
The fucking Kardashian campers are going to make me cry.
Mason Disick advises Kim Kardashian not to let Northwest go live again.
So last night
Kim posted to her stories a screenshot of text messages from Mason that he's giving North some advice.
And I think it's just like great advice in general.
Well, if you didn't see before, this clip went viral.
I guess North has an Instagram now or something.
She went, she was sitting in her house and she went live on Instagram for like a minute.
And obviously it got screen recorded and, you know, sent out nationwide.
And she runs into Kim's room and it's just cool to see Kim, like, you know, after hours, she's just laying in bed scrolling her phone by herself.
And North comes in.
She's like, mom, I'm live.
And Kim's like, no, you're not.
She's like, yeah, I am.
And Kim is like, you know, you're not supposed to do that.
And then North, the phone gets shut down.
So it was just like a gorgeous insight into, you know, I'm appreciative to North for giving me that moment.
Yes.
So then Mason texted Kim.
He obviously heard about this.
And said, hi, I don't want to disrespect North, but I don't think she should do the lives unless someone is with her because people are always screen recording and she might tell information that isn't correct and stuff like that that she will regret.
I did the exact same thing as she did.
I would do the lives and now I regret saying one of the things that I said, just in case, for safety.
And then Kim wrote, I appreciate you looking out, Mason, and I agree.
She felt bad and I don't think she will do it again, but it could be good if you talk to her about it.
Stop, I'm going to cry.
He said, I'd love to talk to her about it.
Next time I come over, maybe.
And then Kim said, I would love that.
Thank you.
Sleepover.
Sure.
So I, okay, we all remember the time where Mason was wild,
letting us know that Straps and Kylie are not together.
And I actually think that that's the thing that he regrets.
I mean, I didn't watch all of his lives.
I don't know what he said, what information was the one.
But that was the big headline.
No, also there was the drama with Jeffree Star.
What did he say?
Like he was going on about Jeffree Star or something.
Oh, but did he say anything not factual?
No, I think he just started beef and Jeffree Star was like, what?
Anyways, it's just like that is the cutest text message.
And I've never been
like such a like a
Mason stan fan or like really kept up with him.
And I just always think of him as like a mini Scott.
I feel like they have the exact same personality.
They talk the same, they dress the same.
And then so to see a bit of like his insightful personality coming through, I'm just like, is Mason the number one camper in this group?
Right.
I mean, the reason why I love this story so much is because it's layered.
First of all, love to see a king who, you know, learns from his mistakes.
Like, you know, and not only is he learning from those mistakes, he's trying to spread the good word to other campers so that the other campers don't make the same mistakes that he did.
I thought the way he texted Kim was so respectful.
Like, I don't want to disrespect North.
Like, because North is obviously like an intimidating bitch.
Like, you know, like, no one's queen of the bugs.
Right.
Like, nobody fucks with North.
Like, so I think for Mason to kind of step up, like, that took balls.
It really did.
And he did it in a really respectful way.
I thought it was just the cutest exchange of all time.
And I just, like, I could literally dissect these text messages for two hours.
I know.
And I know people are like feeling weird that Kim posted them.
And I guess she didn't need to post them but the way that I read that like I'm so glad that she posted them because it really gave us a window into you know the lives of these campers and the dynamics between aunts and nephews and that they clearly have like really good heads on their shoulders the only thing is like it's a little bit sad that the kids can't just be kids you know yes I mean yes I thought the same thing like the fact that like Mason is leading a life of regret because he went live and said something untruthful which I'm sure the kids at his in his school do all the time every single day yeah so like the fact that they all have these phones that could, like, literally, like, show us everything that goes on behind the scenes, and we're expecting children to like understand those boundaries is a little not normal, for sure.
But that's, there's also a lot of benefits.
It's not normal that they've never flown commercial.
Like,
of course, no, there's pros and cons.
Yeah, for sure.
And I'm sure even their parents, like, when they do mess up with stuff like this, like, probably aren't...
don't make it as big of a deal as it actually is because they're just trying to punish them like normal kids who like stepped outside of the bounds as opposed to like oh my god you just created headlines around the world on north's live like kim wasn't like screaming like if that was me i would literally like if ben came in the room and i was like sleeping and he was on live i would literally slice his neck out like so kim was very imagining it was theo though right
i would probably have a little bit more teaching you'd be like we don't do that kim was very patient and the whole exchange afterwards especially because it was mason's birthday so i think she was trying to show everyone like how mason is so like mature and he really grew up and she called him a respectful king um an insightful king.
I think she just wanted to show the world like this is Mason.
And you know what?
I really appreciated that because I don't really feel like I knew Mason before this.
No, I agree or any like ideas that I had about him were just not the Mason that he actually is.
Like I feel like I know North's personality.
I feel like I know Penelope too from her TikTok.
Yeah, but to see this side of Mason and he is the oldest camper in the bunk and there are so many campers these days and more are coming and to know that he is like just looking out for the bunk, it's a beautiful thing.
You know, what I got from this is that the bunk is in under amazing counseling.
Like they are, their fearless leader is not too proud to own up to his mistakes, to learn from them, to grow from them, and to share those lessons.
Like
it's, I'm gonna cry.
You know, and it's also beautiful.
The lesson learned, it's not even
unique to just this bunk.
Like these are universal lessons.
Yeah, sharing social media when you're young.
Hello.
Yeah, just what you got to watch out.
Yeah.
You got to watch your back.
And I'm just really grateful that the kids, they have Mason to look up to because he's clearly like turning himself into some sort of role model.
Some like guru.
Literally.
Yeah, I agree.
This was a beautiful story.
I think we could all learn from it.
And overall, I'm really glad that Kim posted these text messages, even though I know that other people are like, why would she post this and put Mason on blast?
Now, do you think that Kim got permission from Courtney to post the text messages?
Me too.
I do.
I think that would have...
That she should have gotten permission.
And you know what?
It goes without saying because I think a lot of people are really hard on Courtney for some of her like parenting decisions, which is no one's business this is a testament to the way he was raised and it's a testament to courtney and you know if i was courtney i would want these text messages shared too yeah i agree okay our next story someone else speaking out ben affleck says he'd probably still be drinking if he stayed married to jennifer gardner
that's nice
Ben Affleck is speaking candidly about his relationship with alcohol.
During an appearance on the Howard Stern show on Monday, he got candid about his struggles with drinking while married to Jennifer Gardner, with whom he shares three children.
He said, quote, I'd probably still be drinking.
It's part of why I started drinking because I was trapped.
I was like, I can't leave because of my kids, but I'm not happy.
What do I do?
What I did was drink a bottle of scotch and fall asleep on the couch, which turned out not to be the solution.
Yeah, I mean, I guess his headline is misleading.
He wasn't saying like Jennifer Gardner trapped him.
Like he trapped himself in his own mind because he wanted to like stay with the kids.
Yeah, the headline, but that's a harsh quote.
Like she drove me to drink and I'd still be drinking and married to her was making me drink.
Yeah, like justice for Jennifer Gardner.
I know, but I feel like Jennifer Gardner like couldn't care less about Ben Affleck.
Yeah, and when these stories, like I do feel like in their relationship narrative, it's like always like Ben Affleck, you know, he was with the nanny and stuff, and he was always like the SNL writer.
And like even when they were still married, it was like he was the villain and she's just like this sweet, innocent lady, like being a mom and like how can you do this to America's sweetheart?
It's true.
And this just like firmly ensconces them in these roles.
And so I don't think this is doing any damage to to like her personal brand.
She's just like, oh, you know, like,
yeah, that's my crazy ex-husband.
Yeah, I don't think she's bothered by it because you're right.
And she's, she's in a relationship, right?
She's like super happy.
She's so moved on.
She's so moved on.
Like, I don't even think she literally could shed one tear for Ben Affleck.
So I honestly, and you know, I don't even think she cares that he's back with the woman that he was with before her.
Like, that's normally something like a woman would care about.
I think Jennifer Gardner, like, so, is so ambivalent about Ben Affleck, like, it doesn't bother her.
I agree with everything up until I think that probably deep down she is very bothered.
Really?
Yeah, I don't think we'll ever see a glimmer of it, but I imagine that's quite bothersome.
I don't know.
She doesn't seem like the type of gal to be bothered.
That's just how I perceive it.
I
think
it's too big not to, you know.
But it's so much time, like.
But still.
It's like 20 years, right?
The history, it's too, it's not just like an ex, you know, they were supposed to get married, like, and then he totally flipped the script and married Jen and like had all these kids and like that was the happy ending.
And like, then the plot twisted again.
I know, but by the time like Jen was finally able to get rid of him, like, I just, I really don't know.
I don't think she's like RDH and like, oh my god, what about me?
But it's like,
it almost like, I mean, of course they have these kids together.
Yeah, it just like wipes clean.
It's like, oh, he was, you know, this feeling that I had.
I was thinking about her the whole time.
Like, he was in love with her all along.
I thought I was the winner.
I don't know.
I see Jen garner a little differently than that, but I could see your side of it as well.
Yeah.
Anyways, I don't think, I think that this, you know, just kind of makes Ben sound like an assistant.
A dick.
But he was also probably just being honest, like about how he got to the place where he was at and drinking.
And sometimes the honest truth is ugly.
It's hard, yeah.
You know?
You know, Howard brings that out in people.
Yeah.
So, and I'm sure he's regretting saying it because it's like no, it's being picked up everywhere.
Yeah, and it looks really bad.
And it's a fucking slow news day.
So like this, this literally the only thing the Morning Toast is talking about.
Yeah, no, it was like number one story everywhere.
Also, probably one of my favorite facts about Jen and Ben Gardner is that their daughter's name is Serafina.
Yeah, because they have respect for a delicious restaurant.
For the McDonald's of Italian cuisine.
Yeah.
So good.
I think I'll have that for lunch today.
Oh, it's been a while for me.
It's also kind of heavy for lunch, but you know what?
It's the Wednesday before winter break.
Like, fuck it.
If you're not having pasta for lunch, what are you doing?
Fuck it.
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great our next story the voice has crowned a new winner spoiler alert the winner of season 21 of the voice is the band girl named tom which is a win for team kelly which is really why what i care most about i don't know what like if most people care like which judge which oh i care i feel like it's such a big deal for the judges yeah and the only like the finalists were from team Team Kelly, Team Blake, and Team John.
Yeah, Ari was out first.
Which is really sad for Ari.
Which is surprising, too, because I saw this cover of Ari and the two remaining acts on her team.
This woman who had the most amazing voice and this father-son duo.
And they did a cover of four or five seconds by Kanye Palmer.
And Ariana did the cover, too.
They're sitting around this campfire jacket.
You have to watch it.
It's the most premium content I've ever seen.
They're harmonizing to perfection.
And I was like, oh, the girl sitting on Ariana's right is obviously going to win the show, but she didn't.
Damn.
I mean, there's a lot of talent over there at the voice.
Totally.
Even though I just saw a tweet that went viral that was like, you know, I actually want to quote it 100%.
Verbatim.
Yeah.
Give me a second.
Okay.
But you read the details.
Girl named Tom's win marks a fourth victory for Coach Kelly, who also won last season with her contestant, Jake Hoot, earlier in the night.
She's won a lot because she also won with that girl, Britton.
Four.
Four times?
Yeah.
Earlier in the night, girl named Tom performed the Jonas Brothers Love Before You Leave Me with Kelly, and they beat out out team uh fellow team kelly contestant Haley Mia
and Blake and John's finalists as well
okay I can't find the tweet but it was basically just like nobody from the voice who has won like ever becomes famous it's basically just a talent joe 1000 but there are a lot of people who are extremely famous who like didn't win the voice but were on the voice like Morgan Wallen started out the voice Ray Lynn it's really in country because like Blake Sheldon like does the work um but people who have won I don't know one person who's even remotely famous.
No, I totally agree.
It seems like a really fun time.
It is a talent show and whether or not you win has no bearing on whether or not you will have success.
Yeah, but same with like American Idol.
I would say since the Resurgence, the most famous person to come out of American Idol is Gabby Barrett and she did not win.
Yeah,
since the Resurgence.
I haven't been
following since the Resurgence.
Oh, I have because it was it was pretty good.
Like Gabby Barrett's season was actually very good.
Yeah, but that was the first season back.
Yes.
And then since then, they did like COVID seasons, as we know from last night's VPR, where Lao.
Lee's assistant was a digital producer.
Yeah.
But back to the story.
So yes, I'm very interested in which, I'm actually more interested in which coach wins than which artist wins.
Because they really like use it as bragging rights when they do their banter all season long.
And so now like Kelly's sitting pretty.
This is two seasons in a row.
And you know what?
With Ari, like I hope this doesn't discourage her.
And I really hope, I don't know what her contract was, but I hope she stays on.
I think, first of all, it's great for her commercial appeal.
And I think she did wonders for the voice.
Like, I've never seen so much voice content being, like, targeted towards me on social media because she really just raised the bar for everyone.
And I think it made her friendship with Kelly so cute.
And I really,
I really hope she comes back.
Yeah, I hope so too.
I mean, I'm sure the contract was more than one season, and it was a big
shuffle people in and out.
Like, Nick Jonas is on the voice for 30 seconds.
Yeah, but
they're just different, you know?
And also someone, sometimes people come in as a judge and like you just know in your bones it's a temporary situation.
Yeah, it's not permanent.
Like they're sitting in someone else's chair.
I feel like they let you know that, you know?
Yeah, Nick Jonas definitely felt temporary.
But Ari doesn't, Ari doesn't feel like forever.
She's not Blake Shelton, but I feel like she could be like a Gwen Stefani who was there for a good amount of time.
Yeah.
But she's just like, she needs to stay like for the show.
I'm telling you, like the show will not be good without her.
Well, once she was going back on tour and stuff, but I think for just this time in her life, and she's newly married, so she's staying like
local.
I think it's great for her.
She's always like has looks and now her Instagram's like popping off because she's dressed up every day.
She used to just like take selfies and turn them upside down and post that and be the most followed woman on Instagram.
So true.
But now it's really interesting.
Yeah, yeah, no.
I'm telling you, like, I really hope that she's enjoyed it as much as we have enjoyed watching her
welcoming her into our homes.
Agreed.
And I'm so happy for Kelly.
Like, we were just saying this yesterday, like, it's all coming up, Kelly.
It's all coming up, Kelly.
And this is further proof.
Happy for her.
And I haven't heard this band, but it sounds like
a name that was thrown out for Tom Sandoval and his cover band, but they decided to go with Tom Sandoval and the most extras.
But it could have been Tom and the Girls or whatever this band's.
They're all named Tom.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story, which is a little more TV contract news?
Is it the more TV contract news?
No, it's not.
Okay.
No, I don't think it is.
Okay, okay.
It's that Kathy Hilton is reportedly returning to Real Houses of Beverly Hills after getting more cash.
So rumors have been swirling that Kathy Hilton was asking for a big payday to return to the Real Houses of Beverly Hills.
And now they have made a deal.
So, she will be signing on as a friend of for the upcoming season.
Is that what she was last time?
Yeah, if even that.
She wasn't like holding a diamond or anything.
And she will be joining the girls, even though production has been halted because of
a bunch of the women got COVID.
Oh, again.
Garcelle, not the same.
Oh, I saw Garcelle on Twitter saying.
And Rina and one other person.
Interecant.
Yeah, very interesting.
Anyways, she felt like she was being undervalued on the show, and now they have reached a
triestess.
Good.
Do they say how much she got paid now?
No.
I'm curious.
It's definitely not above, like the highest paid ever was obviously Denise Two Seasons, $4 million.
Yeah, but also it couldn't, it can't be more than what Kyle's making because that would just be like so upsetting.
And if I were Kyle, like that, I'm sure it's already frustrating.
Like Kathy literally comes on the season for
two minutes, like does nothing, and is like America's sweetheart.
Whereas Kyle's been working at this for 10 years, whatever.
But I'm sure, like, it's fun to be able to do it together.
But to come in then the next season and make more than her, I think, I don't think she would stand for that.
Also, as someone who's not even a full-time castmate.
Right, right.
But also, contracts are secret.
Like, they, Kyle would only know if Kathy's making more than her, if Kathy's sharing what she's making with Kyle.
Yeah, no, but if Kathy got like a blockbuster contract to be a housewife, like, I do think that might be in the news or yeah.
And so I think she would have to talk about it with Kyle beforehand.
Oh, my God.
That would be so crazy.
If she ever does become a full-time housewife, she probably could and would get paid more than Kyle because, like, Denise got paid more than Kyle.
Denise is a household famous person.
Kathy Hilton.
Of course, but it's, it's, you agree that it's different because they're sisters.
Like, that would.
I don't think that, yeah, but I don't think that she should get paid less because her sister's been on the show for 10 years.
Or like Kyle should get paid.
If they want to pay Kathy, like, say it was whatever, $2 million for a season and that's not what Kyle's making, then they need to up what Kyle's making.
I just feel like that would be like so.
Yeah, but that's, you're a righteous person, but that's not how business works.
No, but even I remember like Lisa Renna said this once kind of, I don't know if it was on an episode or a reunion or just off air where it's like, for the women who are making that much more,
you need to bring that much more.
She said it on radio Andy.
I remember what about like Vanderpump, like who was making the most out of all of them.
Then like earn your check.
Yeah.
And the rest of us like, and I mean, I don't think that it should always be that literal, but there is some truth to it.
And so if Kathy's going to be the highest paid housewife, then she needs to be working the hardest yeah but the thing about Kathy is like when she does the least it's what gives us the most like it's this weird dynamic I know but I just think it would it would cause
issues in the group if she really just like floated her way in was making more than all of them
it ain't right I hear you but I see her the same way I see like Denise Richards is an A-lister Kathy Hildon on her own outside of the show is an A-lister like that's what A-listers get paid right but Denise I think came in like ready to get her hands dirty and like be a housewife, and that's exactly what she did.
And she really, you know, went through it.
I'm sure if Kathy was a full-time castnate, like she would make more of an effort, but she's a friend of, like, she can phone it in.
Yeah, but I don't think that she, like, why should she even really want to make more of an effort, do more than she's doing, or like get really in the weeds on the drama?
She's not a dramatic person.
She also has the perfect setup.
She's literally, I've never seen a friend of sit for the whole reunion.
Right.
She's a unique butterfly.
She didn't sit the whole reunion, did she?
Literally.
I actually think she did.
They brought her out and then it was squishy, but she didn't leave.
She was there like, if she wasn't there 100% of the time, she was there 95%.
Yeah.
And that's never happened.
A scala was there for a flash.
Yeah.
Kim D?
Kim G?
Yeah, one sec.
I have heartburn.
Ooh.
Do you want me to get you a tum or something?
No, I took my heartburn medication.
I actually think I have a tum in my purse, though.
No, it'll kick in soon.
Are you sure?
Why not?
I have a tum.
No, I have tums too.
But like, if I already took medication, I don't want to take more.
A tum is not medication.
It's like a sucking sucking candy.
A gross one.
Are you sure?
I'm sure.
Thank you, girl.
Thank you for your concern.
I just love tums.
Like, I would never leave my house without tums.
Anyways, I'm just concerned about Kyle because I just hope, you know, that would be really...
And I would understand Kyle's frustration.
Kyle has put this show on her back.
Kyle built this show from the ground up.
And for the other women, it's like an honor to have Kathy Helton.
When it's your sister, it's like...
Annoying.
No, it's just...
It's different.
No, and Auntie did ask at the reunion, like, is there any jealousy?
And she said no, but the only, and I actually didn't, I believed her, but the only time I thought there was like a little bit of jealousy was when Kathy and Kyle were on Watch What Happens Live.
It was just like the Kathy show, you know?
Yeah, and it's just like, it's so easy.
Like, everybody loves Kathy.
It's so easy for her.
Like, yeah, and she didn't have the first seat.
And, like, she didn't even care.
Do you know what I mean?
She was like still the star in the second chair on Watch What Happens Live.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, I'm sure it's been that way, like, their whole lives, maybe, you know, where it's like one, people are just different people.
Drawn drawn to different people.
Some people just have to work harder.
But you know, it's sister dynamics.
It is.
And you know what?
Andy said it best, I think.
I think learning more about Kathy really made me understand Kim.
I agree with that.
Like, and I actually wouldn't mind seeing Kim back, like the three gals back together, even though I don't think this show was good for her sobriety.
I'm good.
You are?
I like Kim.
She's extremely good.
Oh, I enjoy her.
I think she's good.
Like, now I do feel like I have a better sense of her, but I still don't need her on the show.
Yeah.
So I agree with half of what you said.
Okay.
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Our fifth and final story: a little sports news.
Steph Curry makes history, breaking the NBA's all-time three-point record.
He's officially the greatest.
So, Steph Curry made history in front of a Madison Square Garden crowd, which included Ben Soffer, on Tuesday night by setting an NBA record for the most career three-point shots made.
The Golden State Warriors scorer faced the Knicks, needing just two three-point shots to pass the former NBA player Ray Allen's career three-point record of 2,973.
Curry broke the record with seven minutes and 34 seconds left in the game.
Who won the game?
Probably not the Knicks, honestly.
But I would assume.
Who would even know?
Yeah.
Everyone's only talking about this.
And also, the former record holder was in the crowd.
Yes, Ray Allen.
I saw that on TV.
I was watching and I literally tuned in at the perfect time.
Ben was like, put it on.
I'm like, I'm eating.
And then like, I moseyed my way over to my bed, put it on the second Steph Curry like took the shot, and everyone was freaking out.
I'm like, what is going on?
Well, I saw Steph Curry take the shot because Ben got it on Instagram.
Ben got it on Instagram and Ben is like floating on Cloud9 because, like,
the, you know, there at every game, there's a million photographers, a million videographers, but you know, always the best picture of like an iconic moment, like lasts forever in history.
And the photo that, like, you know, the sports universe decided to use is literally Steph Curry and Ben.
Like, it's actually the craziest picture.
It's being posted everywhere.
And Ben is wearing his not like other girls merch with my face on it, which basically, like, I was there too.
It's you, Steph, and Ben.
Right.
And it was just like kind of an iconic moment for toasters.
Always.
And I love when there's a toasty influence in an iconic moment.
Me too.
And I think Ben was excited because he was also wearing a Spritz hat.
He's like a walking billboard.
Like, he's like, oh, I'm going to the next game.
What should I market today?
Yeah.
No.
And I think he knew he was going to have good seats and this could be a history-making game.
And he played it well, this marketing man.
No, it was iconic, like really, truly iconic.
I didn't hear much about the game afterwards because Ben was just like so obsessed with this photo of himself.
He's like, everyone's texting me.
Stop.
I'm happy for him.
I'm happy for him too.
That's like for him, that's like us being like, that's like you being in the background of Kim Kardashian's paparazzi picture.
Yeah, I mean, I wasn't, Margo was, but yeah.
No, you were once, remember?
After
the end of life, of course, just my leg, but it was good.
But then also, Margo was too once.
Yeah.
So, no, I understand that the power of this moment for Ben, and I'm thrilled for him.
I really, really am.
Yeah, that's really all I can say.
And I'm thrilled for Steph, obviously.
Obviously.
You love to see records being set, you know, greatness achieved.
And like the baton passing, you know, from one generation.
Ray Allen is retired, so like from one generation to the other.
Yeah.
And then the guy on CBS or TNT who was, you know,
emceeing the show, the game.
The announcer.
The announcer, yeah.
He held the record before Ray Allen.
And he was like, when I had it, there was no fanfare.
Like, we didn't keep these records.
Like, you know, I didn't even know I
broke the record.
Interesting.
Yeah, so it was like three generations of recording.
Reggie Miller, is that who that is?
Sure.
Three generations of record breaking.
It was quite beautiful.
Wow.
That is beautiful.
You know, you love to see it.
It was a star-studded game.
Ben said he saw Pete Davidson.
Oh.
And Pete Davidson is also in like all the iconic pictures from last night because he's wearing a neon pink hoodie and you just like can't not notice him.
Who was he with?
I didn't really see anyone and I forgot to ask Ben.
But like Ben's not.
He probably wasn't with like, obviously not Kim or anything.
I feel like, you know, his sister or something.
Yeah, well, that's nice.
We would have known if it was Kim.
Obviously.
Yeah.
That's very cool.
I'm happy for Ben.
I'm happy for, you know,
Steph, the Golden State Warriors, the Knicks, that, you know, something that they did, people cared about.
No, that's huge for a New York Knicks fan.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
And also, what was really sweet is that, like, the second he made the shot, he, like, you know, got subbed out and like ran to the crowd and hugged his mom.
It was really sweet.
That's really cute.
Yeah.
Got to love an iconic sports moment, you know, historic.
Yeah.
No, it's cool to have big moments.
Who do you think is like the best basketball player of all time?
That's a really controversial question because it's LeBron versus Jordan.
Michael Jordan.
No, it's LeBron versus Kobe.
No, it's LeBron versus Michael Jordan.
I've seen bad teachers so many times they argue.
I feel like it's LeBron versus Kobe.
No, Jason Siegel's always arguing with the campers over LeBron.
It's LeBron versus Jordan.
Would you know Artem?
I think it's more Jordan.
More Jordan.
More Jordan.
Though it seems as though none of us are experts.
No, but like, what about Kobe?
Kobe is a great player, but it's LeBron versus Jordan.
I'm going to call Ben.
Okay.
Hopefully he's Lord.
And then also get his take
on
LeBron or Jordan.
Everybody who cares about these things has a really strong opinion about it.
But Ben is obsessed with Kobe.
Maybe that's why it's in my brain.
Yeah.
No, but it's like, I think also, depends on the position that you play.
Because even though Steph Curry just beat this record, it's not LeBron versus Steph.
That's true.
So it's like how much.
Of course, this motherfucker is always calling me in the way he literally calls her during the show every day every day
I could try my husband yeah why not I don't have anywhere to me
no he didn't pick up pick up
I'm telling you I feel like I'm right like I just know okay like I wow straight to voicemail wow oh my god are they cheating on us maybe they're together being like oh and my phone's broken oh my god okay do you know any more men that you could call uh
Zach Shapiro Oh, Shapiro.
No, he's more football.
Okay.
All right, I guess we'll never know.
No, they'll let us know.
It's LeBron erupts Jordan.
And so who do you think is the best player then?
Like,
I don't know.
I like don't know a lot, but just some of the information that I gather is like, I don't really get the vibe that like LeBron is like a team player.
And I feel like that's an integral part of being the greatest of all time.
Interesting.
What makes you think that?
I don't know.
I just like remember when I used to like actually care like about what Ben was watching.
He was like a ball hog when he was like in Miami Heat, you know?
Yeah, and also I think for a lot of people, I don't know if people feel this way, but just this is just like how I remember it.
Like when he left the King Charles Cavaliers to go to the Heat just to like, you know, win
down there and like live in South Beach and all that stuff.
It just.
Like he was not in it for the right reasons.
Yeah.
And then he came back to Cleveland, which was nice because that's his hometown and he cares so much about Akron like he is the school.
But could you imagine living in Cleveland and leaving?
No.
Actually.
No, heck.
I couldn't.
I couldn't.
I can't.
So, yeah, I'm going to go with Jordan.
I'm going to go with Jordan too.
Like, he's the classic.
Yeah, maybe it's easier for us to choose Jordan because, like, he doesn't play anymore.
It's hard to say that the person playing right now is the greatest to ever do it, you know?
But there are like a lot of stats that people use to compare and contrast in these arguments that happen every day.
Should we just take it to Google?
I don't know.
You know, I'm having phone problems, so I can't even do it.
Like, my keyboard's not popping up.
They're trying to stop you from finding out the truth.
it's true because it's Kobe
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All right, Vanderpump Rules was like unbelievably infuriating because
I was feeling a lot of different emotions.
Like I just actually, you know, it was really, really grown on me, like 10x.
Raquel?
No.
James?
No.
Ariana?
Yes.
Okay.
She's just like funny and light, and she really does not get involved in this whole drama.
Like, and you know, she stands up for Katie more than her fucking husband does.
So I actually really like her, aside from the fact that, like, you know, I have sympathy for her.
She has to live with sandoval you know like i know like when okay so when he was flat ironing his hair and she came into the bathroom he started singing a song about flat ironing his hair and it was like really painful um
what did you think about that i thought that i wonder if like he's this annoying on tv because I have this whole thing in my head.
Like Sandoval saw what Stasi did and how successful Stasi was with her brand.
She like created this like basic bitch thing and it was basic bitch book, basic bitch this, basic bitch this.
It was very seamlessly integrated over the last seven years on the show.
And that's why he was so successful.
And I think he saw that, realized he's really not done anything even remotely similar and wants to replicate it.
And he's trying to jam in what Stasi did in seven years into one season of Vanderpump Rules.
By being extra.
By being extra in the bathroom, extra with his band, extra in the restaurant, extra in the new restaurant, extra with his outfit, extra with the vagina candle, extra with the basket he brings, extra at Tom's house.
Like he's just trying to do the most so that like he too can be successful outside of the show.
Now he has his cover band, Tom, and the most extras.
Like, it's so obvious to me what he's doing.
So, perhaps Ariana, like, sees him at work being extra and is like, okay, I can tune this out because he's working right now.
I have to imagine he's not that annoying.
No one could live with someone that annoying 24-7.
Like, I don't believe that.
Yeah, I totally agree.
I also just have a logistical question because it looks like everyone was doing their own hair and makeup for Ariana's party, which is fine.
But then she said, I need your help with my hair.
I need your help with my hair.
But her hair was like...
Sickening.
Sickening, best hair I've ever seen.
No, someone did it.
But why would she she say that?
I don't know.
Someone did it.
Why would she say that?
I don't know.
Somebody did it.
I was trying to figure out how they could have done that together.
Yeah.
So I feel like what was interesting is that this is the first episode where Ariana and Stasi are not fighting for like birthday things.
And like Ariana was like very
light.
Like she had a really good time.
I was like happy for her.
Like happy to see her that way.
Katie Maloney made me cackle so many times during the episode.
She was being so funny.
She is like literally my queen.
No, she was like, her role on this show this season is just to give a voice to everything that that we're feeling about Tom Sandoval.
And, like, I know Tom Sandoval has a lot of fans, and people just like love what he brings to the show.
And, but there are also people who, like,
they're in pain watching this.
And she is there to represent us.
And, like, when she said, I would rather lick Tom Schwartz's foot after a day at Disneyland in slides than have dinner with Tom Sandoval.
That spoke to my soul.
She's giving a voice to the voiceless.
Like, she's just like literally a queen.
Like, i just agree with everything she says like off the bat it's just such a delight to like have someone you can really get behind yeah and i'm and i haven't felt this way about katie every single season a lot of times like i just went i've disagreed with her especially when you know if she was like going at it with her friends or whatever but like this season just everything she's saying is speaking to me and just because she didn't give a fuck her attitude towards all of it is very relatable.
I just, the only thing I want to push Katie to do is like, somebody needs to give Tom Schwartz like an ass whooping.
Like, if that was my husband and he was out here, like, embarrassing me, not defending me, taking up with someone who's speaking to me in that derogatory of a way, like,
the talking to that my husband would get at home would, you could feel the earth shatter.
Like, I would
never accept that.
And I know she does her best, but I think she could go harder on Tom Schwartz.
I don't think so.
I think she, I'm sure she's given him so many talking to's and he sits there and quakes.
And then when it comes time to talk to Tom Sandoval, he sits there and quakes.
Like he just like can't.
The truckers for Tom.
Trucker's for Katie.
Maloney.
Okay, yeah.
But like he really is quite infuriating, Tom Schwartz.
And I just felt like when Katie was crying outside of Tom, Tom, because once again, like, you know.
Tom said that every all the money in her house came from him.
Which is insane.
And also the way that he was talking about branding them as a duo, I did find to be like creepy and weird.
And also.
And predatory, because you know what?
Like, yes.
So
you're saying like since the sidecar days, you've been trying to make you and Tom a brand.
And you've always been doing it in a way that like makes Tom look stupid like you make him like your side bitch and you know what everyone Rihanna loves Tom Everyone loves Tom.
So I think Tom Schwartz knows that like Tom, no, sorry, Tom Sandoval knows that Tom Schwartz is like an asset publicly and made it his mission to like be a duo with him without Tom Schwartz really knowing because who the fuck thinks like that?
Right.
And also like Tom Schwartz does has a have a wife and if she's not down for this and if she doesn't like you then that's a problem.
And I was actually so glad when Lisa said that was my idea because it was.
Tom and Tom were never, like, they were always, you know, really good friends, but they also, it was Tom, Tom, and Jack's.
Like, Tom and Tom became like this duo brand.
With the restaurant.
With the restaurant, and that was Lisa's idea.
And when she said it, even, I feel like a lot of the viewers were like, wait, why would you give a restaurant to Tom and Tom?
Like, when there's, what about like the witches of Weehoo or like there's Tom never worked at the restaurant?
There were so many avenues she could have gone down and she chose this one and that was really her idea.
And like Sandoval trying to take credit for it and Lisa calling him out was a beautiful thing.
Yeah, no, he just took credit for it.
That conversation was so infuriating.
I couldn't have sat there and like let someone take credit for everything
my husband had done, especially when you really look at it now, like from like a bird's eye view.
He like kind of manipulated Tom into this partnership where like Tom is never thinking like, oh, how do I make my next business move?
Tom Schwartz is never thinking that.
And like Tom Sandoval consciously like sought out this partnership, making Tom Schwartz like the, you know, the dumb to his dumber, like, and and then like wanting to be praised for it when nobody asked you to do that.
Right.
Also, based on what I've seen this season I think that Tom Sandoval is a bit fiscally irresponsible when it comes to his personal finances and also the business like all of these loans that are being taken out on a restaurant that is a risky risky gamble like this isn't the time to enter the restaurant industry they already have a restaurant now they're splitting up their time the show's on its way down things aren't it's not really a good it feels like it's a last-ditch effort for them to like make something happen and it's far too late and i hope like when we go to get to the reunion we find out that this restaurant idea has been kaput if either of them actually get those loans like i will cry yeah it's like whitney rose but at least whitney rose has more potential than a second restaurant from tom tom i would say so yeah i would say this beauty brand in covid is very a good idea and like she's on her way up this show is on its way up like this is a really bad idea on all counts and I just, anyways, when Katie was crying and she was just like, I'm just so tired.
I just felt like she was like, maybe she did feel sleepy in the moment, but the way that I read it was like, I'm tired of this shit and like this show and this dynamic and like fucking Sandoval.
And like having to force you to do what's right.
Like for just, I mean, yes, but like I think, like, I think that's so much of what Katie ultimately loves about Tom is like his good naturedness and it's a sword that cuts both ways because he's not able to stand up to people.
But I think she's just like tired of having to play in the sandbox with fucking Tom Sandoval.
Yeah, no, I think you're 100% right.
I just don't really see how this show can go on.
Can go on.
And when I was listening to Give Them Lala,
she was saying that there's like some, I forget her exact words, but like, there's a chance that she doesn't come back next season, pretty much.
She felt like completely on an island at the reunion.
No one has texted her since about like the
breakup and stuff except for Raquel.
And she was saying, like, that she might not be back next season.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a sinking ship.
Like, no one wants to be the last one on it.
Yeah.
And she has the least, like, of the OG castmates, like, she has the least invested and tied it into the show.
Because we we don't even see like give them Lala Beauty stuff or any of her like professional endeavors.
But like, I mean, Tom and Tom are completely beholden to the show.
Tied to Lisa.
Which ties Katie and Ariana.
And I mean, Sheena as well.
Still works at Sarah.
Yeah.
Does she?
No, not currently.
Like they pretend to.
Yeah, but I think.
But she hasn't been fired.
Yeah.
No, but Sheena's always been like...
kind of like a floater in the space.
Yeah.
And it works for her.
Yeah.
So it wasn't, it was actually a pretty good episode just because it like got me thinking.
yeah it got me thinking too of course i my you know there wasn't enough la la which was frustrating yeah and it like was making me sad like seeing like randall helping her with her assistant like knowing like we'll never see that again she posted a tick tock like you know every day for a week she's walking out of her front door in like a sickening new look and the caption was like i didn't know when i was filming this it would be i'd be preparing for my final exit like i guess she doesn't go live in the house anymore like and she doesn't plan on it Which sucks because that's such a nice house.
Yeah, I wonder where she's living right now.
I know.
I like worry.
I know she was like, the whole time they were together, she was like very much understanding that like it's a possibility that he'll do this again.
I can't be financially dependent on him.
So I'm glad that she did the books.
She does the podcast.
She does La La Beauty.
Like I am worried about her financially like because Randall was obviously you know covering a lot of it.
Yeah.
But she has systems in place I think and she's a smart cookie.
Yeah.
So and her podcast was really good.
I was really enjoying
just like listening to it girl talk while I was getting ready.
It was a good vibe.
So the reunion should be good.
Also, like with the Raquel and James stuff.
Yeah.
And then did you watch Katie and Sheena and Brock on Watch What Happens Live?
No, how was it?
It wasn't good because it was virtual.
And so Andy was like out the door.
I'm surprised he was even sitting in the chair and not standing by the door.
Like, couldn't give two shits what they were saying.
Ask them.
They would literally give like an answer and then like they would say one word and then like launch into a sentence and he would cut them off before the sentence.
Like it was quite painful.
That's the tough thing.
Like
the whole Watch Robins Live is so, like, dependent on Andy's mood.
And no human being can be in a good mood all the time.
And especially Andy just is prone to, I think, being in bad moods.
It makes the show extremely volatile.
And it's worse when it's virtual because he cuts them off less in person because you know when they're about to say something else, but like with the delay, it's just like
pretty painful.
Yeah.
So, and I was just like, I didn't understand why Brock was in frame too.
I feel like he was supposed to bartend and then for sure.
He is so thirsty.
He's so thirsty.
And then it didn't work out, like like him going, them going to New York.
And so he was like, but I still want to be on.
That's really what I feel like happened.
And so they actually had an audience member bartending, which was funny.
That's cute.
He was just like a random guy from Ohio.
That must have been like the best day of his life.
Andy was like, how is it over there?
And he was like, the same as over there.
Oh, wow.
That's actually funny.
Yeah, Brock is like so thirsty, it's actually uncomfortable.
Like his intent, he doesn't even try and like be subtle with his intentions.
Like we know exactly why he's with Sheena.
Yeah, no, and him saying, like, saying, you you know, I asked you to post on Instagram, not give me a kidney.
It's like,
that's, like, just not what.
Don't, but, like, it's still a big deal.
It's, it's a big deal for these people.
Yes.
And he doesn't get that because I guess it's not a big deal for him.
Yeah.
Um, so that's a better bump rules recap.
That's our show.
Anything else you want to talk about before we wrap it up?
Nope.
I think I feel wrapped up.
I just started the new season of Great British Bake Off, and so that's been
quite soothing.
I have like this roaring hunger pain in my stomach.
Like, can we go have lunch?
Sure.
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Oh, my God Ben's calling me back.
Hold on, hold on.
You guys, we're going to get to the bottom of it.
Okay, Ben, we're podcasting and I'm going to record you.
So don't say anything crazy and I'm putting you on speaker, okay?
We were having a basketball debate.
You know, who do you think are the two best basketball players of all time?
That people are always debating.
Like, who are people always comparing?
They're always comparing Michael Jordan and LeBron.
Fuck.
Okay, I was wrong.
And what about Kobe?
No, by the way, real ones know that the debate should be between Kobe and Michael Jordan.
Oh, I'm a real one.
And so not LeBron?
That being status.
Oh, wait, Michael and Kobe?
Michael and Kobe.
What about LeBron?
Michael, there's a reason Michael Jordan Jordan has a $12 billion shoe empire.
Michael Jordan is the goat of goats.
Then there are two other people that you can consider when discussing greatest of all time.
And you're either a Kobe fan or you're a LeBron fan.
I personally have always been a Kobe fan, and I will say real ones are Kobe fans.
But you can't be both a LeBron fan and a Kobe fan.
Okay, but then who do you think is best?
Michael, LeBron, or Kobe?
Michael.
Thank you.
Have a great day.
I'll see you at home.
Love you.
Wait, Jack, you said that LeBron James was the greatest of all time?
No, no, no, no.
We were arguing.
You'll have to listen to the episode.
You'll have to listen to the episode.
We were arguing over what the debate is.
Do people say it's, Claudia said, people argue between Kobe and Jordan.
Nope, Kobe and LeBron.
And I said, no, people argue between Michael Jordan and LeBron.
And Jackie was right.
Jackie was right.
Thank you for settling that.
I love you.
Love you.
Bye.
Have a fun.
Okay, I'm so glad we got that settled.
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