S4 Ep188: Spooky Scary Skeletons: Thursday, October 28th, 2021

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast, day two of Toast from Home, TFH.

Hey, Claude, how are you doing?

Hello, Jacqueline.

I'm doing wonderful.

How are you?

I'm doing well as well, you know, as well as can be.

I am so proud to say that today is Bra Anniversary.

Oh, my God, I forgot.

Today is a one-year anniversary of Bruno coming home.

to me and we are just we're on cloud nine here.

Like, we definitely woke up with a pep in our step.

Like, I am just so excited to celebrate this day with Bruno to make him feel really special.

Maybe I'll make him like a special dinner of something, like, with chicken or carrots instead of kibble.

Ooh, carrots.

But I'm just really enjoying, looking forward to enjoying the day with Brew and just reminiscing on the last year and really just going through my camera roll and seeing the evolution of Brew.

It's Brutadu Day.

It's Brukadu Day.

Yeah, I'm spending the day like on my time hop for real.

For real.

Oh my God, what a special day.

We did a vlog for Patreon when we got Brew, our first week with Brew.

So I'm definitely going to be re-watching that.

He was so tiny, tiny, and now he's a big, strong man.

Hi, Mr.

Bruce.

Tiny little Bruno, little tiny man.

And of course, he's watching me podcast as he does every single day.

He's so supportive of my dreams, and I'm so supportive of his dreams.

Whatever he wants, mom's going to make it happen.

Like a good son should.

Yeah, no, we're an unstoppable duo.

Like,

humble person.

Truly.

Sonny and Chair.

We have an amazing show for you guys today.

It is Thursday.

We've got some bleak stories that, you know, nothing a good tangent can't turn around.

Don't fret.

We've got you covered.

We also have a pretty chunky, juicy TV recap because last night was part three of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion.

And it was also the second episode of Winter which I did watch and I watched the first episode.

And I think we could do a nice little recap on this Bravo experiment.

What are your initial thoughts about the experiment?

Just give us the gist of what you're feeling.

Because I'm feeling, honestly, I'm feeling sad.

Okay, so I feel like in terms of casting, they did a good job and a bad job.

I like that they wanted to bring in more people, but it does feel like these other people are really

like slipping through the cracks just in terms of the group.

Like they don't feel like this unified unit.

It feels kind of separate, like new people

and old castmates.

No, and honestly, they're so irrelevant that they're actually just taking up space in this house that is not big enough for this group.

No, the house is not big enough.

It's giving me like crazy fucking anxiety, like watching them all like share rooms and bathrooms and closets.

It just doesn't look like a premium experience, which is weird because Summer House pretty much always has like a really nice house.

Yeah.

No, I agree.

I just want to know the gist.

Like, do you like the show so far or no?

Yeah.

We'll talk.

I don't think there's anything not to like.

Oh, I think, I think there is.

We'll get into it.

Can't wait.

Other than that, how was your day yesterday before we jump right into everything?

I don't know.

I'm feeling back to like OG, quarantine.

I don't really remember what I did yesterday.

Chili, and I watched a lot of TikTok.

Not to call you out, but you are wearing the same shirt that you were wearing yesterday when we recorded.

Oh, and also the day before.

Is there a point to

say?

Is there a point to what you're saying?

I'm just, I'm saying it might, you know, maybe things are a little roughery right now, but you are wearing

your shirt is

festive.

I don't want to skip past what you just said.

I don't want to skip past what you just said.

I don't know.

Okay, so I'll say it again.

I'll say it.

I'll say it in plainer terms.

If you're wearing the same shirt three days in a row, maybe, you know, things aren't going so well.

I just don't agree, like at all.

Okay.

I would actually argue things are going splendiferously.

Wow, you haven't had to leave your house in three days.

That's awesome for you.

We can agree to disagree on this one then.

I mean, you're just insulting the foundation of my entire like belief system and brand, Dirty Jeans.

Yeah, dirty jeans.

Fine.

No, agree to disagree.

And I will give it a pass because I do love seeing that shirt every single day on FaceTime because it is so festive.

She's wearing her spooky, scary skeleton shirt with shivers down your spine.

And it's the only thing in my life that's actually Halloween-themed is looking at this shirt for an hour every day.

I'm sorry, I just want to keep going on this point.

How do you know that I don't, first of all, only put on a shirt for you when we're podcasting and I wash it in between podcast days?

You don't know that.

No, that's not the case.

But you don't know.

I do know that because you have a few shirts that you like to wear during podcasting.

We also have, you know, your cold shoulder shirt.

I've seen them all.

And you would rotate them because who really wants to like do the wash every single day?

That's also just like not

economical.

All I'm saying is that you don't know.

You don't know what you don't know.

And all I'm saying is fine.

I said what I said.

We can agree to disagree.

I won't press it, especially because you are bringing, you know, all of the

flavors of Halloween.

Spooky vibes.

Toast and ween is, you know, temporarily postponed.

We have nothing to live for except for my stupid Target skeleton spooky pajamas.

that nothing to live except for that shirt i literally wear them year round i get so much shit when i'm like posting on them on instagram like those are not seasonal and i'm like you know what now it's so seasonal and i've never been more relevant with my pajamas that i really have to milk it

fine see that's a good answer Well, that's a good answer.

You know what?

I don't dress for the male gaze or the female gaze, okay?

Do you just but you dress for the sisterly gaze?

No, I dress for the self-gaze.

I don't care what any of you hookers think.

Okay, so we'll take the shirt.

Love to see it.

And we can jump right in.

Are you ready?

Do you feel appropriately attacked?

Ready, come and find me.

I'm not gonna hack out the sun on my side.

It's heavy, come and find me.

Open for the one, and I'm ready, ready.

I'm ready.

Thank you for that.

I don't know how I would have gotten on with my dad.

You know what?

As I was singing it, two things came to mind.

One,

we used to make up so many dances to that song.

Like, it was our favorite song as kids.

100%.

Then it also really is like such a good morning show song.

Like, I could just see them like playing it on the Today Show when like Hoda and Jenna are like drinking their coffee.

It's really a great song.

It is a great song.

That is a good point.

It does sound like, you know, know, the theme song to Good Morning America or.

So I'm sorry for trying to legitimize our brand, Jackie.

I won't do it again.

It's okay.

Please just don't do it again.

Such a bitch.

Okay, without further ado to do to do.

Oh, I didn't even get a due update.

How is the man?

The man's just living his best life.

He ate my Ritz crackers last night, so he's in trouble.

But other than he's in heaven.

Yeah, he's like sleeping off the snack peacefully at my feet right now.

At least it was half asleep.

I did watch your story.

You know, someone sent me a message, was like, Do you ever go to the grocery store?

They have sold those mini Ritz cracker sleeves for years.

And it's true.

I never go to the grocery store.

I don't live near a grocery store and I always do delivery.

Like, sorry, I'm a working woman who has, you know, a thriving business who doesn't always have time to go to the grocery store.

But I guess everyone already knew that Ritz manufactures mini sleeves.

It's about half the size of a regular sleeve, which is the perfect snack on the go.

I didn't know that.

So yes, I'm the last person to know.

And no, I never go to the grocery store.

I didn't know that either.

And just I want to say in your defense, if I may,

even though you don't go to the grocery store, even if you did, in New York City, the grocery stores are not the supermarket.

They have one, if they have Ritzcrackers, great.

Then that's amazing because they have those.

They really have one kind of everything.

They do have like multiple brands, but you don't get like, it's not like we get all those Oreo flavors that you guys get at Target.

We get regular Oreo, we get double stuffed, and we get golden, and we don't get anything else.

And we only get golden if we're really lucky.

Right.

So there's a difference between the grocery store and the supermarket.

And

I want to say that those mini writs can be found in a supermarket, not the grocery store, because we don't really have space for that in New York City.

That's actually a really good point.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Wow.

Oh, my God.

That song gets stuck in my head anytime I watch Moana with the Miss.

Jackie, me too.

Please, I can't even get into it because I won't be able to get out of it for two weeks.

All I can say is that.

Oh, Oh, guys, I'm taking out my AirPods.

I'm taking out my AirPods.

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It's a pleasure.

Now, our first story is the the 2021 american music awards nominations are here and the headline is i feel old and irrelevant jackie you weren't lying when you said the stories were bleak american music award nominations

that's dark and it's and it's in the top spot

But I always do like going through nominees for award for the big award shows.

And by the way, American Music Awards, we actually wind up watching because it's usually a pretty good show.

Yes.

And it just like gives you a sense of, you know, taking a pulse on the culture.

On the culture, for sure.

I, I was like, you know what?

I think Claudia and I could have a lively discussion about this.

And I would like to know what was trending this year because it wasn't me.

Okay.

It wasn't me that was trending.

No, I could have told you that, though.

Okay.

Calm down.

It wasn't you either.

Fair, fair.

Okay.

The artist of the year.

Ariana Grande, BTS, Drake, Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift, the weekend.

I'm feeling relevant.

I know these people.

This is either Olivia Rodrigo or Taylor Swift.

Does this year include folklore?

I don't think so.

It's probably Olivia Rodrigo.

Yeah.

And so, by the way, Olivia Rodrigo and The Weekend were leading in nominations, which is pretty cool.

Oh, that is cool.

New artist of the year, 24K Golden, Gibbon, Masked Wolf, Olivia Rodrigo, or The Kid Leroy.

Ooh, okay.

Obviously, it's Olivia Rodrigo with LaKid Leroy.

LaKid, I made him French.

LaKid Leroy in second place.

But by the way, have you heard about LaKid?

Why do I keep calling him LaKid?

The Kid Leroy?

You know, he left Scooter Braun.

No.

Yeah, I thought that was really weird.

Interesting.

That's very interesting because he has that song with Justin Bieber.

Right, like they scooped him up when he had that one song, so there you go.

Oh, can't make a wife out of a hoe.

Which was like really popular on TikTok.

And they really like made him into like a star.

And the Justin Bieber song obviously helped a lot.

And now he's not with Scooter Braun.

I'm so curious what happened.

That is an interesting factoid.

Yeah.

The collaboration of the year, 24k Golden featuring Indior, Mood, Bad Bunny and Jay Cortez, Dakiti, Chris Brown and Young Thug Go Crazy, Doja Cat and Sizza, Kiss Me More, Justin Bieber and Daniel Caesar on Peaches.

Oh, that was a big song.

Peaches or Sciza.

I just can't believe we're still giving award nominations to Chris Brown.

Yeah.

Like in the day and age of social media cancellations, like how did that one slip through the crack?

Such a big one.

Such a big one.

Continues to slip through.

I'm not sure.

Remember when Kendall Jenner was in his music video?

That was like a really weird thing for her to do.

Mm-hmm.

I couldn't tell you.

That was weird.

Favorite trending song.

Erica Banks, Busset, Mainskin, Beggin, Megan the Stallion, Body, Olivia Rodrigo Driver's License, Pop Huna, Adderall.

Oh, I mean, anytime Olivia Rodrigo's in a category, it's just like not fair because she really dominated every moment of this year.

She really did.

So I think she'll be sweeping this year.

Yeah.

Favorite music video, Silk Sonic, Leave the Door Open, Cardi Be Up, Lil Nas, Montero, Olivia Rodrigo Driver's License, The Weekend, Save Your Tears.

Was there a driver's license music video?

Yeah, I was like, what?

I think she might not win that category.

No, I'm sure there was like a lyric video like on Vivo, but.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm not sure.

Me neither.

I don't really watch a lot of music videos.

I don't either, but they really are so, you know, buzzworthy.

It gives people like something to talk about.

No, because I never really understood the point of them because they're just like a waste of money.

Yeah, well, it depends.

I feel like people use them for different things.

Like, I know country artists, like, I've seen a lot of them.

They're very generic.

They're never like they use the same actors and the same wardrobe, the same hats.

I think that in

like in the case of Cardi B or even Lil Nas, they use it to like make a statement, be kind of outrageous, draw more attention to the song.

And then people like Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande, they use it to like share secret messages.

No, and also like as an expression of art.

Oh, there's always that too, yeah.

And to like tell the story of the song.

The song.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Agreed.

I'm not a huge music video girly.

No, but sometimes like when I'm sitting in my living room and my like Alexa is in my bedroom, I'll put music on my TV using YouTube YouTube, and it'll just go on a playlist, and I'll end up watching music videos.

And I always sit, and I'm like, you know what?

I should watch more of these.

They're little movies, they're fabulous.

What's your favorite music video of all time?

Like, you could watch a million times over.

Oh, I'm put on the spot.

I can't, I can't think through my whole life like that.

Okay, well, that's what's

like wildest dreams.

Oh, my God, Jackie, how the fuck did you know that?

Because I listen when you speak.

You do?

Oh man, I should try that.

It's first of all, a gorgeous music video where she looks so sickening.

It's set in Africa.

It's gorgeous scenery.

Scott Eastwood is like the

love interest.

And all the proceeds went to like a wildlife conservatory because she like was featuring all the animals and didn't want to exploit them.

So she really thought of everything.

And it's like this old Hollywood glamour.

But is there like a music video from your childhood that like you remember being like hella impacted by?

Of course, and it's Candy by Mandy Moore.

Oh my God, me too.

No, that was like beyond iconic.

Oh my God, like the skateboarding outside the diner, like the flip phones, that was the punch buggy.

The punch buggy.

Also, Will Afford.

Bad.

This song was an impact for me, not the music video.

Oh, I still remember the music video.

They're all wearing like underwear, and I couldn't believe like people like would walk, leave their house like that.

Yeah, now look where we're at.

Totally.

You know?

Yeah, so music videos aren't what they used to be is what I'm trying to say.

I hear you.

Do you want more nominations, or you feel like you got

the temperature?

I feel like I got the temperature, to be honest.

I feel kind of in the know because, obviously, like the Ariana Grande, Olivia Rodrigo, I know them.

And then some of those TikTok artists, like, I've definitely heard of, you know, I've heard of 24 Karat Golden.

Yeah, and you know, the song Mood.

It's actually like pretty on point.

Yeah.

Why are you always in a mood?

I'm like, yeah.

I'm like, I'm not.

I'm just being myself.

Also, the song Begging.

Yeah.

Is that the TikTok song?

Okay, ready?

Jackie, you're going to die.

Do you remember, like, during quarantine when we all got together and watched Eurovision?

Yes.

That Danish band that won is Maineskin.

Okay.

They released it.

They didn't win.

Danish didn't win.

Well, maybe not Danish.

Where were they?

Italian.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mainskin.

They're becoming like popular on TikTok, and they were just on the Kelly Clarkson show and the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon because I think they've, they had an original song.

Beggin

already a song, it's a cover.

Yes, that's what I was gonna say.

Yeah, but then they had another song that was theirs

that like went pretty viral on TikTok.

So they're like kind of blowing up in America, which never happens.

Um,

Eurovision for the last, it happened for the last song for the last Eurovision winners.

Yes, you're right.

With that really depressing song, yeah.

See, it's TikTok because TikTok's such an international platform.

Yeah, and also the girl from two years ago who won from Israel, her song went viral on TikTok too.

I said, buck up, buckum, bucka, bucko, buko boom, bye.

What?

Oh, I did not.

Cool.

She's the Israeli winner.

Cool, cool.

Okay, well, that's your pop culture update for the day.

Now we're going to get into the rest of the stories, what everyone's up to.

Next up.

I'm sorry.

They were not on the Kelly Clarkson show.

They were on the Drew Barrymore show.

I got confused.

The same, but different.

Totally.

Randall Emmett has filed to decrease child support payments to avoid bankruptcy.

Randall Emmett's personal legal woes continue to pile up before Lala ended their engagement, according to page six, still unconfirmed, but page six is like plowing through with this.

They're like, the engagement is over.

Emmett filed court documents in March requesting to decrease his child support payments to his ex-wife Amber Childers because of his significant debts.

In the legal documents obtained by page six, the movie producer asked the court to terminate its January order that mandated him to maintain a bank account with a monthly balance of at least $50,000 to fund his children's non-tuition related expenses because he has accumulated at least $500,000 in debt owed to the IRS.

If forced to continue making these deposits, Randall will fall deeper and deeper into debt and will be forced to file for bankruptcy, the documents read.

So, I mean, it's very possible that this is like a strategic financial move to stop paying child support and he's not actually in debt, but I don't think he would do that because like I want to imagine like that he loves his kids and that he actually is in financial debt because honestly, his financials never made sense to me yeah but he's also claiming that amber had been spending the money from this bank account on luxury items that weren't legitimate expenses for the kids right i mean 50 grand a month for non-tuition expenses doesn't that seem like a lot i mean i don't know i never had a kid i have to ask olivia

yeah i don't i it's I don't understand this this setup because it's not 50 grand a month.

It's like there has to be $50,000 in this bank account that she can use to spend on things for the kids.

But they said every month.

Yeah, because like it's like, I think he also pays child support.

Oh, oh, oh.

Yeah, well, because non-tuition, so he also has to pay the tuition.

Yeah.

I don't know.

This is confusing.

And I do agree that their financials definitely raise questions.

Yeah, because there's no doubt he's like a successful movie producer.

We've seen it.

He goes to Ghani.

He does all this stuff.

What was that movie called with John Sheralda?

Gotti.

Gotta.

So he definitely works.

I just think that they are like constantly spending above their means.

Like, I don't know if like a

low-level movie producer is exclusively flying private.

Yeah, and also like in order to be a movie, being a producer is an interesting thing because in order to be a producer, like you have to have money.

Like it's just really financing films.

It's not the, it's not.

directing or any or anything like that.

You're just like putting your name on it and investing in the film really.

So if most of his investments in the last few years have haven't popped off, those are bad investments.

Yeah.

and also sometimes being a producer is like in name only like margo ashre was a producer on my comedy special because like it's you can some people negotiate it into their deals like they want to be an executive producer on a film right but it means more than just like the credit on the screen i mean maybe for like the

for you and margo like that's but she produced your show no but i'm saying like when you agree to do a movie like one of the negotiation things is like okay i want x amount of money and i want to be a producer

in the credits like there's really no job to be a producer if you're like an actor.

I don't know.

Maybe you get to sit in some rooms that you wouldn't have been able to if you were just an actor.

Maybe.

But a producer's not a director.

I think there's a little more to it.

Like,

it comes with having a little more control than just being an actor, being subject to whatever they tell you.

Yeah, for sure.

I don't know.

Definitely,

it's not looking good.

No, I know, but like, you know what?

This has been like a long time coming.

But, you know, I did also think that forever about the Beermans.

They have been the people whose finances just never added up to me.

But here they are still kicking it, you know?

There's so much to be said.

There's proof in the pudding.

Yeah, no, but their finances do add up.

I feel this way about a lot of influencers, too.

It's like they're spending a lot of money, but they're also probably just making a lot of money.

It doesn't mean they're being financially wise or saving, but

they're making the money that they're spending.

With influencers, it doesn't confuse me as much because I think if you are an influencer, you know how other people make influence, how other influencers make money, whether it's like brand deals, affiliate links, like there's a million ways.

But like when you see a celebrity like Randall or even like the Beermans, how do they make money?

Well, you know how the Beermans make money.

I think your thing is like there's nowhere they're making as much money as they're spending.

Nobody.

But you know how they make money.

They're talent.

They're on shows.

They are not anymore.

No, but when you had these concerns about them.

Yeah, I just never thought it was enough to sustain a lifestyle.

And I think I'm right about that.

I don't know.

I feel like maybe they were getting paid more than you thought.

No, I'm sure they were getting paid plenty, but like for a family of seven living in a mansion, like non-stop shopping, everything, like indulging life's luxuries 100%,

it just doesn't add up.

And that's also how I feel about Randall.

Yeah.

Yeah, we shall see.

Anyways, our next story, weirdly, our next two stories are about Chris Evans.

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Thank you, Claudia.

Our first Chris Evans story, fans think Chris Evans' Instagram story holds a clue about his rumored romance with Selena Gomez.

So this has been floating around the universe and

people are speculating that Chris Evans and Selena Gomez are together.

Fans continue to comb through their social media profiles for a clue that they're dating.

And while there's no solid evidence thus far, some people think that his recent Instagram story is their most solid lead yet.

In the brief clip, it's light at best.

Okay.

It's thin.

In the brief clip captioned Rainy Day Activities, the...

Marvel star plays the piano.

It's an innocent enough Instagram story, but some noticed that there was a brunette's reflection in the lower left corner of the video.

Earlier this month, though, Chris and Selena's followers started speculating that they could be dating or hanging out after they noticed that he was following the pop star.

Okay, let's talk about this specific instance.

While I did see it, the reflection was so small and so obscure and didn't move.

Like people's hair moves.

Like, I don't think that was it, but I do think there could be some possibility of these two dating.

And I just want to say how here for it I am.

Because ever since Only Murders in the Building, like I'm a really big Selena Gomez fan.

Agreed, agreed, and agreed.

Those are my thoughts as well maybe he followed her though because he's also a big fan of only murders in the building you know

that's true very top of mind recently but if i were chris evans and i was watching a show and i was enjoying the show and the leading lady was single and cute available i would follow her i would message her and i would i would play piano for her and there is a video of um selena gomez being asked like a few years ago like who your celebrity crush is and she did say chris evans oh wow yeah it's really cute.

Okay, so so I think they're like they're married.

No, me too.

And you know what?

I'm so happy for them and their future children.

No, this is, I ship so hard.

I know it's premature.

I know I don't have a lot to to lean on, but I am, I'm buying a ship.

I think it's really cute.

Also, like, did you know it rained in LA yesterday?

Because

every fucking single person,

every person, like, oh, it's the rain.

Like, oh my God, get over it.

It rains everywhere.

Like, you think you're so fucking special?

It was everywhere.

Every time it rains in L.A.

And it's really like, I want to say twice a year where it's like a really rainy day.

Like, all the influencers have something to say about it.

It's so uninspired.

And of course, Tom Sandoval had something to say about it.

Speaking of uninspired.

Okay.

And also our next story also about Chris Evans is that he is starring as Buzz Lightyear in a toy story spin-off, a Buzz Lightyear origin story.

The trailer just dropped.

Pixar just released the first trailer for this highly anticipated spin-off with Chris Evans as Buzz Lightyear.

That's actually a really cute casting.

It's a cute casting.

It's a cute idea for a movie.

Like, obviously, you know, they, they squeezed out four toy stories just thinking.

It's like a no.

It's so successful.

No, but like they don't know, they don't know how to stop themselves.

So like until something is an abject failure, and even still they might squeeze more out of it.

But like, especially if it's a success, like they're just going to keep going.

So now we're getting a Buzz Lightyear origin story, which is cute because Buzz has a lot going on, you know, to infinity and beyond.

That's endless possibilities of things that Buzz is up to.

So fucking true.

But you know what?

When I think of Buzz, you know who I really feel like he looks like?

Who?

Chris Pratt.

Like the square head.

I don't see it.

I'm staring at Buzz right now.

Let me see.

Like, he's got a big chin.

He's not giving me Chris Pratt vibes.

He's too angular.

No, I stand by Chris Pratt, or honestly, Kevin James.

Yeah.

No, but I'm liking Chris Evans.

See, even though it's not, I don't think it's live action.

Oh, so it's just a voice?

It's just a voice.

Oh, right.

This is cartoons.

Duh.

Okay, cute.

Really cute.

Cute for the campers.

Like, this is just some good, wholesome space content for them.

And Toy Story gets to live on.

And you know what?

Toy Story is such a beautiful story.

You should talk to Ben Zoffer about it.

He'll start crying.

Like, he really really feels like those movies, like, defined him as a child.

And I think a lot of kids feel that way.

I'm not one of those kids.

No, I could have told you that.

I just want to let you guys know in case you were confused.

What Disney, like, Pixar movies do you, like, do personally resonate with you?

Well, Pixar is tough because it wasn't really a huge part of our child, like...

of our early childhood.

Do you know what I mean?

It's true.

It was a bit later in life.

So

I don't know.

Honestly, Inside Out is still more.

I didn't see it.

Jackie.

I know.

You guys always tell me, but it's just never the right time.

Well, you know what?

You're pregnant.

You're going to love it.

It's so sweet.

Oh, my God.

You have to watch it.

Okay, maybe Brew and I will watch it for Brown Anniversary.

Yes.

Would Brew like it?

Are there animals?

Yes.

The clown, the elephant.

What's his name, you guys?

With a B.

Whatever.

You'll love him.

Okay.

Okay.

I'll give it a shot.

It's a gorgeous film with a gorgeous message.

Gorgeous.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

That's a little more content news.

Sure.

Netflix has debuted Inventing Anna First Look.

Yes.

Oh my God.

This took such a long time.

I know, and I know, and everyone was tagging me in it, and I just feel like what I have to say is...

It's going to be a disappointment.

But Netflix debuted a first look at Inventing Anna, Shonda Rhimes' new limited series set to premiere in 2022.

Inspired by the New York magazine article, How Anna Delvey Tricked New York's Party People, the series follows Vivian Kent, a journalist investigating the case of Anna Delvey, who was played by Julia Gardner, the German heiress and Instagram celebrity who broke into New York's social scene to make friends and then steal their money.

Who first

dropped Julia Gardner?

Oh, I thought you played the reporter.

No, the reporter's Anna Chlumsky.

Oh, she's a family.

Oh, and she's from Veep.

From Veep, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know you're going to say, like, you're not into it.

It's been too long.

I'm sorry, this is a story that will truly never get old.

It's a tale as old as time.

So, that's what I wasn't gonna say it's been too long.

I was gonna say this story is old to me.

Like, I read all the articles, and there were so many, like, you know, little docuseries about Anna Delvey, and it just is played out.

You know, they did too much, and then this one came along too late.

I'm it's just oversaturated for me.

I totally disagree.

If it gets good reviews and stuff, I might still watch it, but I'm just like, she's not that interesting.

I didn't watch any of the, I didn't even know there were other series.

Like, I've been waiting for the Netflix one.

It's Shonda Rhines, right?

Yeah.

This is only scripted ones.

This is the first scripted one.

That looks

so good.

But that's like, if I saw, if, if a movie came out, a scripted movie came out about Fire Festival, I would say, I'm good on Fire Festival.

Like, I don't, we, we watched the two documentaries, like, we squeezed everything out of it that we could.

I don't need a show about it.

With Fire Festival, yes.

I don't feel like Anna Delvy is even close to having gotten the exposure in terms of

series.

I feel that I feel that it's the same as Fire Festival for me.

And just because maybe I saw like an episode of American Greed, and it was just like not

the story, like sounds more crazy and glamorous than it is.

I think that when they script it and film it, I think it will have that glamour, that element, that deception.

Like, I think it's going to be great.

I'm very excited.

Okay, cool.

Is that the girl from Ozark?

She, yeah, and she's from

the show that Dana really likes.

Oh, that one.

No, it's um.

And every, like, it won so many awards.

Killing Eve.

Ah.

Right?

I don't know, you guys.

I give up.

Maybe not.

She's from Ozark, though.

Yes.

And maybe not Killing Eve.

Okay.

Anyways, moving on.

Those were the fast-fact stories, and if you know them now,

you're neither better off nor worse off.

Well, you know what?

If you know them now, you know them

how true is that

beyond true constantly spinning facts over here

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Okay, part three of the Real House has a Beverly Hills Reunion.

I do feel like if there was ever a part that we didn't need, it was probably last night's.

It was just so funny how they're going in and out of the serious Erica conversation, which by the way, I said this last week when you weren't here.

I appreciate the fact that they're sprinkling in Erica stuff among the other stuff, and we don't just have to wait for part four for all of it.

So I do appreciate that, but it is so weird to like have a heavy conversation about Erica and then go into like Crystal's package of being a new housewife and how she like, you know, and stuff that usually happens in episode one of the reunion.

Well, you know what's interesting is that they did not film it in the way that we are seeing it.

It's very clear all the Erica stuff was at what was at once because you can see Garcelle's earcuff fell off and during all the Erica stuff, her earcuff is down and then during all the other stuff, which was obviously prior, her earcuff is back on.

Wow.

I mean, Carmen San Diego, did you figure that?

I did.

I didn't even see it.

I figured it all out by myself.

Because also, that just, it makes no sense how they're, if they filmed it this way, it would have made no sense because there's like fluid conversations happening.

Yes.

Okay.

So that does make me feel better for the continuity of the conversation.

Just watching it, it is a little weird that it's part three and we're just introducing Crystal.

But I'm grateful that we didn't have to sit through three episodes of torture only to get to the full.

I agree.

I agree.

So I'm here for the way that it's going.

And also, it's like every time we finish an erica conversation it's like that wasn't the whole thing where there's more to come you know and even last night i felt like you know like andy said he fired up the grill

but next week is part four i think it's even crazier so let's start with erica because you know she's really the meat and potatoes of this whole thing if last week i would have given her an a plus i would have i think this week i would give her a b plus because

Less of what she said landed.

There were a few things that didn't make sense.

That didn't, yeah, that didn't make sense, but also that she couldn't drive home.

And it's really this thing about like the victims.

It's just not landing for people.

And also this whole thing about like she has been acting like a victim, which the women said like that she was.

And she was like, no, I'm not.

But like, even at that dinner during the season, when she was like, look at me.

Look at my life.

Right.

And it's like, yes, your life is in disarray, but look at the lives of someone who lost everything and didn't even get the money that they were owed.

Right.

Like they brought up the conversation of her victimizing herself and her response was, I'm not victimizing myself and then continued to victimize herself.

She's like, my life has been turned upside down.

I'm like, is that you being a victim again?

I know, but it's also like true.

Yes.

I'm just like struggling.

So

I just, I just don't think it came off 100% like some of the other things that she buttoned up pretty nicely so far.

What's really still getting at me is this unattainable, unreasonable standard she's holding these women to.

Like, I think the fact that no one's allowed to ask a question without being lashed out at, how she's literally going to remember forever that dinner that Kyle and Dareed had.

Like, I just feel like it's so unfair.

Like, and that's what Kyle was saying.

Like, can you just for one second, like, just understand, like, we were also put in a really like weird, bad position because either like we're going to be bad friends to you, or you're a fucking criminal who ruined the lives of millions of people and stole their money.

Like, how do you know how to handle that?

And I, I, I actually agreed with what Kyle said.

And I just feel like the lack of even like flexibility, like the smallest ounce of flexibility that Erica has for these women is so frustrating.

I agree.

I think it's highly unreasonable.

I think, considering everything, they've been extremely supportive, and it's still not enough.

And, and, you know, Sutton has become like the villain in this story for Erica.

And all she did was ask a question.

She never like cast judgment, really, or said what she thought.

She just was asking questions, which I think is a very reasonable thing for the women to do, even if at the end of the day, Erica is completely innocent.

Like, yes, you are innocent and you're a good person, but you married a monster.

And that has just some consequences of some questions we're going to ask you about, like, what did you know and when did you know?

Also, the timing of your divorce filing is extremely suspicious.

Yeah.

And you have yet to explain that adequately.

But also, I think what Erica was trying to say to the women was,

obviously, there's things that she can't say on the show, and she really can't express too much sympathy for the victims because then she is

admitting that this happened, you know, and she's also named in the lawsuits with Tom.

So she is on trial.

Like, so it's, it's a tough spot for her to be in.

And I get that.

But I think when she's not filming the show and she's just talking to the women, she's able to say more.

So what she was trying to say is, like, you could come to me and ask me off camera.

But she can't say, she's just,

she's caught in a tough place, definitely.

I just.

And I think most people wouldn't be able to talk their right out of it.

But up until this point, she had been doing a good job.

I think last night was a couple.

I think it was an unflattering episode for her, for sure.

It was.

but still, overall, for the reunion, I would say for her is in the in the plus column.

She is doing a good job and she's there and she's answering questions and she's not.

And even when they said, like, why are you still doing the show?

I thought she was going to say, like, you know, I need the money.

I've got bills.

But she was like, because I have nothing to hide.

Which I do respect.

I thought that was, you know, another really good answer.

Yeah, that's true.

I mean, all in all, I just really don't know where to land because at the end of the day, do I think Erica knew about all this?

Honestly, no.

Do I hate the way she's handled this entire situation?

Yes.

And do I just feel like she's being extremely unfair to the women?

Yes.

Yep, I would agree with all of those things.

And it just makes me like

dread upcoming seasons because she's never going to have a

open heart towards Sutton ever again.

Like they can't be on the same show.

No, I feel like she's so vengeful.

I don't think she's ever going to have an open heart towards Doreen or Kyle either.

Like, I think she's so mad mad about that dinner, and especially because they were so close.

Yeah, I think she'll, I think she'll forgive them.

I think she,

I think that she bow, but I think, again, Sutton's just an easy target.

And if she can pin all of her anger on Sutton,

she's never going to forgive her.

Yeah.

And then Winter House.

So I watched the first and second episode last night.

I have to say, as a concept, I do think this is a really good idea for a show.

Like mixing, you know, the East Coast, the Charlotte,

Charleston people.

I thought they did a good job of choosing people from Summerhouse and people from

Southern Charm.

And then these new people, I actually really think it's like a good way of doing it.

Like Paige's friend, Julia, knows all these people.

She knows Gabby, she knows Jason.

But where I'm struggling with, it's maybe it's only because the second episode is like there's no cohesion in the group.

I feel like the Gabby and Jason show is like a, we're like, they're on a totally different show.

And Luke is on a planet.

Luke.

Oh, he's on another planet.

i thought that he was like him and gabby were vibing and then he's like building her the sigloo and she's like oh my god for me and he's like who so his confessional was so weird i mean i don't watch summer house so i don't know if he's like a big weirdo that is his vibe i'm assuming that he is but it's just like so random i was not here i was not here for it and also i just want to say about the casting it's like okay so paige brought julia and then julia brought three friends who paige doesn't know that's two degrees of separation it's too far it should have been Paige brought a friend, Sierra brought a friend, even like Austin and Craig could have brought one friend.

Because when Julia wasn't there the first day, like these are actual strangers and they're only in the house for 17 days total.

Now we're, it's only 12 days left.

That's not enough time to like become, you know, a Jersey Shore family.

And also the way that they're airing the show, it's like every day it's like 13 days left of vacation, 12 days.

It's like, why is this a countdown?

We're just waiting for it to be over.

It should be like day four, day five.

I just thought this is a really weird thing.

Well, you know, what really got to me was the rooming situation.

I feel like we come across this issue all the time on Bravo shows.

And I've always felt on Summer House, like, I get that Kyle and Amanda are a couple.

Like, I get it.

But it isn't fair that every summer they get the master bedroom.

And like, honestly, I would be annoyed if I was paige two.

And I don't think that Paige, like, I thought she handled it perfectly.

Like, oh, you're two people?

We'll do, we'll be two people.

Like, it's totally fair.

And I think Amanda knows that.

And I think Kyle's reaction was so insane.

So insane.

And also, he's so stupid.

There were so many nice rooms in the house.

There was actually only

two bad rooms.

And because you couldn't just take like, you, okay, you didn't get first place.

You'll get second place.

You got last place.

Totally.

He's blaming Amanda.

It's not as if Kyle and Amanda are the sort of couple that, you know, they're like grandma and grandpa.

They're going to go to bed early.

They're going to be in the room a lot.

They need their privacy.

He sleeps on the couch.

He destroys property.

He's up in the living room all night.

You know, when he kicked the box of beers and the glasses broke, I'm sorry, that person doesn't deserve the nicest room in the house.

Like the way that you treat the house also should reflect which room you get.

And for that, you get basement level.

And then when they did a little flashback to Kyle's 38th birthday party, it really put into perspective for me that this is an almost 40-year-old man who's throwing boxes of beer around the house and crying that he didn't get the room he wanted.

And that's when I started to just take like a step back at the show, like at a glance and feeling like, you you know, and that's also how I felt when I realized like Tom Sandoval's out here like acting so silly and he's almost 42.

It's like we.

Tom Sandoval's in his 40s?

He's almost 40, I believe.

Oh, I'm sorry.

You said almost 42 and I was like, oh, 40, Tommy.

Okay, thank you for the clarification.

Let me just Google how old he is.

I don't want to miss it.

No, he's definitely not 40 because I remember when, like...

Jax is.

He's 38, okay?

Right.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Perfect.

So these are two grown men who are almost 40, like acting like children.

And it was just like, that's the weird thing about Bravo.

These shows are on for so long.

Like

they age out a little bit.

And you can't really keep acting like that.

No,

Kyle's age has been glaring for me because I don't watch Summerhouse also.

And then in the first episode, they showed us like the flashback to his birthday party, did a quick math.

He's turning 40 this year.

And I was like, it's no from me, this, this behavior.

Now let's talk about the positives because I think that like Paige and Sierra are two of like the coolest girls I've ever really seen in my life.

And I'm so happy that they got the room that they wanted.

I'm so glad they're both connecting.

I'm really team Austin for Sierra, but like the, I don't even want Austin to really entertain the Lindsay thing because Sierra doesn't deserve that.

I agree.

Question for you.

Are Paige and Sierra not that close on Summerhouse?

Because they're like two peas in a pod.

Sierra's like relatively new.

And so like it was always Paige and Hannah, Paige and Hannah, Paige and Hannah, Paige and Hannah.

And obviously there's no Hannah now.

So Paige is really close with Amanda and she's really close with Sierra now, but like things are shifting.

This is a transitional period.

Okay, so this is a new dynamic, relatively, like, they were close, but not like Bestie's, let's share a bed.

Got it.

Okay, yeah, no, they're really cute, and the outfits have been so on point, but it's just like

the house is not worthy of the outfits.

And not even because the house isn't nice, the house is lovely.

The way that they treat the house, like, they're just like, she's in, they're all in like these cutest, like furry moon boot outfits, like in a puddle of beer on the wooden floor.

Like, no, it's disgusting.

It's like hurting me.

Yeah.

The house is hurting me.

The house is hurting me, too.

They're treating it like trash.

But I do love Austin and Craig.

And you know what's so interesting?

It's like, I don't even feel like Craig and Paige are going to like hook up on this trip.

I think they connect.

They do.

Yes.

That's what I was saying last week.

I really only started watching the show because I was like, oh my God, I ship Paige and Craig.

Let me see where their love story begins.

And there's no love story.

Even in, you know, you see the whole season, the previews for the season.

These two like never even talk to each other in a really funny way.

It's really funny.

i'm i'm enjoying the the southern charm of it all and i really do think that austin and sierra are a good couple i kind of i have this like love for lindsay hubbard she's so messy and she really makes like the show go around especially on some of like the the more boring moments of summer house um but i do not want her with austin like i austin is reserved for sierra in my mind Yeah, Austin and Craig are really funny and cute.

And I feel like on Southern Charm, it's always like, why are these girls always like so crazy about Austin and Craig?

And it's like, no matter where they go, like people are just drawn to them.

I think they're just, well, Andy on Watch What Happens Live had a poll last night.

Is Austin, you know, attractive because of his personality or his height?

I was going to say it's literally because he's tall.

It's because they're both tall, but all, but like.

They just get along with everyone.

I don't know.

I think it's also personality.

People just really like them.

Totally, Jackie.

Do you remember when Austin came to my song release party?

He was literally taller than everyone there.

And like, he really is this like overwhelming like presence.

That is so funny.

You were struck struck by Austin's Cupid's bow as well.

100%.

That's because I was thinking like if I was in the house, like who would I want to like be with?

And I'm like, totally Austin.

Yeah, Austin or Craig for sure.

Lindsay is very akin to Madison energy.

Yes.

You know, so I

feel like, I feel like that's why he's like.

feels this pull towards it, but he's also like thinking with his head.

And he's like, I think, you know, Sierra is a better choice for me.

and also i texted you this last night but i just need to share my call with the group um now that i've watched two episodes of winter house and i'm getting to know kyle more

kyle is the tom sandoval yes of summer house and not to the same extreme degree but just like main character doing his like own crazy thing just like extremely extra while like everyone else

yeah with like

and i just love amanda for like literally acknowledging when he's being so fucking annoying.

And she's just like, I have to get out of here.

She's not even going to talk to him about why he's being annoying.

It's just like better to leave.

It's really so true.

And she is a very good model for like, you could be in a relationship, you can be engaged and you can also be like with your friends, one of the girls, having a good time.

Like it does, it's not,

it's not the end all.

Like now that you're wifed up, you're just like no longer going to be with like your friends.

You're going to do whatever.

Like whenever he wants to go do his like snow biking and stuff, like

she does what she wants.

They're actually make a lot of sense as a couple and they're very cute.

Well, so the interesting thing is, is like when you watch Summer House, like the whole social dynamic of the group and just like the whole house is really centered around Kyle and Amanda.

That's why it's not as glaring like when they get the master bedroom.

Like it's just really like, they're the center of the show.

And I feel like that's really not happening now.

Like I think everyone, the viewers and also just like the people in the house are really drawn to like

Craig and Austin.

And I don't think Amanda's bothered by it, but I do think it's bothering Kyle.

Oh, okay.

I didn't even know that was the case.

And that is very true.

I'm like,

it's like always the Kyle show at Summerhouse.

And like now it's like, who?

Like, show me Austin.

Yeah, I agree.

And then there's the new guy.

So next week looks pretty crazy with Paige and Andrea.

Yeah.

Like the thing is, is like guys who look like Andrea, like, I couldn't be less like into.

Like, they're just, they're so like not Jewish looking.

I like like chubby, curly hair.

Like,

so like, I don't understand the Andrea appeal at all.

Yeah.

But I respect Paige's decision.

Knowing that like currently she's with Craig, this is just the journey she had to take.

Yes, I agree.

And just even when like Paige and Craig are standing next to each other in the winter house, I'm just like looking for

looking for the signs.

I totally forgot Craig was dating that girl from Southern Charm, Natalie.

Yeah, so that also makes sense as to it's not like they saw each other in the house and like were like nah, and they were just like they went and did other things and then they found each other He wasn't available.

She wasn't looking at him like that.

It all makes sense.

I just like I want the reality show of them getting together and falling in love.

Totally, but like when he said he had a girlfriend and he was like calling her, I totally forgot about that girl he went on the picnic with.

No, it was really disappointing to understand that like they're not

in this show.

Move on.

Yeah.

So all in all, it's like fun and cute.

I we're episode two and we're ready at day five of 17.

I feel like there can't be more than like six or seven episodes.

No, yeah, I would say six max.

Yeah, which is like a cute idea.

Um, Bravo,

chaos, it's chaos in there.

But if you think about it, Jackie, like all these Bravo shows, like Bravo's getting into this like really stale routine.

Like, Vanna Prump Rules, all the house size, like they're all just getting so old, so stale, like, so uninspired.

I'm like, this is something different that Bravo did, and it's good.

It's not great, but it's good.

And they need to keep doing more shit like this.

Like, different, they need to evolve.

Okay, I hear you, and I appreciate your optimism,

but I actually think it's like

I like the show.

It's fine, but it's more of the stale same stuff.

Like, what they need is new show, new good shows with, like, new people.

Yeah.

I don't know what they're doing.

You know, because this just felt like some like Jersey Shore

knockoff.

Oh, my God.

They drink

so much.

The drinking was really stressing me out.

And like, waking up and just like having a glass of wine?

it's madness over there.

It's madness.

And you saw when they opened the fridge, you saw inside the fridge?

No, I didn't.

What was in it?

Claudia, it was madness.

Like, of course, like, there's 12 people in the house, and they only have one fridge.

The kitchen's not very big.

Right.

It was like, there wasn't a pocket of air in that fridge, like, lettuce hanging from every shelf.

I'm crying.

You should go look at it.

I will.

And also, like, then, like, Tupperwares of leftovers.

I'm grateful for Julia that she's like cooking mushroom pasta, that they're getting their vegetables.

Like, I'm really worried.

I'm worried about this group.

Oh my, that's so funny.

This conversation is actually making me really hungry.

Ooh, what are you going to eat today?

I have so much leftover chili from the vat I made two nights ago, and I have to eat it before it goes bad.

I had it for lunch and dinner yesterday.

I'm going to have it for lunch and dinner again today, and I'm running out of Fritos.

Oh, I have.

I wish I could just, you know, toss them over to you.

I know.

If only we lived in the series.

I might make a chili today.

I've got some turkey defrosting, but then the the thing is, I make a chili.

Like, the recipe I follow, like, is serve six, and I don't know.

I'm never going to, like, cut it in half.

Okay, so I got, I, I, I went to the butcher.

Well, I ordered from the butcher, and I always ask them to give me ground beef packed in one pound packs.

So that's what I do, too.

Okay, so I got six pounds.

No, sorry.

12 pounds because like I like to freeze them and then I never have to do it again.

Oh, you're I get two at a time.

Okay, Jackie, they sent me two packs, six pounds each.

Wait, so how do you even defrost it?

It came.

No, I just have to do it all at once.

That's what I'm saying.

That's why I'm listening to you.

Please, I made six pounds of meat in my chili.

Stop.

That's why you made so much.

Oh my god.

Mine is one pound of meat and it serves six.

So you're serving 36 people with your chili.

Literally.

I'm going to be eating chili till I'm dead.

That is the craziest thing.

I guess like because if you're unfreezing it, you can't separate it before you unfreeze it.

That's why you have to ask for them to pack it separately.

Right, which is what I do.

But even, I don't even want to make one whole pound of chili.

That's too much for just me.

What?

So,

no, because every time I make chili, I have a lot of leftovers because, like, Zach, you know, pretends to eat it and doesn't.

It's really fucking hurtful.

Yeah.

And

except I know that it's good chili because I made it for all of my friends and there wasn't a drop left.

We believe you.

And

what?

We believe you.

You've made strides since the

oh, and by the way, I just want everyone to know there will be another chili cook-off happening by the end of the year.

So

stay tuned for that.

But I always just have way too much and I never wind up finishing it.

So I kind of want to make half of the recipe.

And maybe I could use the other half of meat for like turkey meatballs.

Yeah.

That would be, you know, a nice way to get through the day.

Yeah.

I'll think about it.

I'll think about it.

Okay, my AirPods are going to die.

Me too.

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