S4 Ep187: What Would Joan Want?: Wednesday, October 27th, 2021

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Wednesday.

Wow, it is hump day.

And this is not how we thought we would be celebrating hump day today.

Claude, I got to ask you the question that'll signal to everyone that why this is an audio-only episode.

How you dern?

I hoped to never hear those words ever again.

I just got back.

I just fucking got back to America.

I was so pumped for like a bang out week of toast episodes.

And then yesterday we found out that that there was a COVID exposure in our studio.

So we're just like staying home, hunkering down, getting tested.

And I'm like devastated, like fully devastated.

Even though like low-key, I do love being home.

I do love giving it my all to the show, you know, my gorgeous facial expressions, my gorgeous outfits that people are like constantly stopping me on the street.

Like, where is your sweater from?

Like, it's, it's just not the same, but it's fabulous.

Nonetheless.

Yeah, it's not the same.

I do love a little audio only moment.

And I did get to catch a few extra Zs this morning with Brute De Doo, but it definitely is a bummer.

So we will be on the podcast for the rest of the week just taking every precaution and

that's that on that really.

Well, it's really not that on that because Friday was supposed to be our annual toast a ween episode.

And to be honest, Jackie and I haven't even really fully discussed like what this means for toast a ween.

I think that it's still up in the air.

Like we're not going to do it Friday, but that doesn't mean like we might not do it Monday.

Oh, that's true.

Like, I just don't think we should let COVID take this away from us.

Like, another thing that they're taking away from us.

That's true.

Okay, so Tostawen is up in the air.

We're making no decisions about Tosta Wen yet, but definitely it has been compromised in some way.

It can't be this Friday, which was the initial date.

Like, we have our costumes ready, but we will, I swear, like, I will literally over my dead body will we let COVID ruin Tostawen.

Like, it is the best tradition at the toast, and we did it in the middle of the pandemic last year.

We We will not let them win.

Okay, I think that's a good plan.

We have our costumes already, so it'd be such a shame if we didn't get to wear them.

So we will.

We'll keep you posted on that.

But in the meantime, we're just going to do what we got to do from home, audio only.

Still so much to discuss.

Vanner Pump Rules was on last night.

Really crazy episode.

I'm really excited to take your temperature.

No, like literally, bombs were dropped.

I was not expecting to like have a jaw-dropping moment.

And I did see on Twitter that the ratings for Vanner Prump Rules are at like the lowest they've been.

It was like half a million.

Isn't that crazy?

That's really crazy.

I know.

Wow.

Okay, so we'll talk about all of that.

Other than, you know, the

usual, how was your day yesterday?

We were so busy being like meetings, girlies.

We were meetings, meetings, meetings, podcasts, podcasts, podcasts, just like non-stop.

But I did find the time late last night to make a chili.

And not only did I make a chili, I made a vat of chili because I'm going to be home for the foreseeable future or like, you know, hunkering down.

So I figured, if I don't have Tupperware on Tupperware full of chili, how am I going to survive?

And I did try it out yesterday slightly different with Fritos instead of Tostitos.

And I have to say, while the taste was there,

In actuality, the Fritos are not big enough to like scoop with your hand.

So then I threw them in the chili and like mixed it around, hoping to get some crunch within every bite.

But they got soggy very quickly.

It was like a soup cracker then.

No, but yeah, they were just like soggy chips in my chili.

Not cool.

So I'm not sure what to do with the leftovers.

I liked the Fritos are so salty.

Like I liked it, but I don't know how to actually eat it.

Okay, I'm sure people will let you know.

I think people like use it as a garnish.

They don't dunk them in, like, they don't go below the surface.

They just kind of sit on top, like, you know, just like a little chili crouton.

Oh, no.

I fully took the bowl, put a handful of Fritos in the bottom, chili on top, Fritos on top.

Got it.

Okay, so like a Frito sundae.

And like the ones on bottom were actual like spaghetti by the time I got there.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, no, you're definitely doing something wrong.

People will let you know the right way to do it.

I also have plans to make a chili this week, and I did buy Fritos as well.

But yesterday, I was eating Tostitos just with salsa, thinking about, you know, life.

As one does,

I realize if I, if it had been a blind taste test, like with a blind vault over my eyes, Tostitos taste exactly like Fritos.

They're just corn chips.

No, there's a slight difference, I have to say.

Fritos are slightly thicker in the chipness

and

they're saltier and there's like a corny flavor.

I think they taste extremely similar.

And Tostitos has more, you know, variety and inclusivity on their

shape.

100%.

Shape.

So, I mean, I know a lot of people like the scoops.

I personally don't.

I think that they, you know, they attack the roof of your mouth.

Agreed.

I love Tostitos minis.

They're the perfect size.

I love, I will die on the hill that Tostitos bite size are the best ones.

Bite size mini rounds are the best ones, perfect size.

The restaurant style chips are too big and those corners will come for the roof of your mouth.

No, and it's like, how do you literally put a restaurant style Tostito chip in your mouth?

I'm asking, like, for specifics, it's impossible.

You have to break it up, and then you're eating, you know, half chips, which it's like, nobody likes the half chips that come in the bag.

Why would you make your chips in it?

Nobody.

100%.

So that's just a little Tostitos philosophy for you this morning.

But I think without further ado, we can just jump right in.

Do you feel ready?

I definitely feel ready.

Aye aye, Captain.

I can hear you.

Aye aye, Captain.

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Okay, first story.

The Joan Rivers bio-series starring Catherine Hahn has been scrapped by Showtime.

This is so disappointing.

Turns out Joan Rivers won't be coming back to life in the biopic form anytime soon.

Last month, it was announced that Catherine Hahn would be portraying the late comic and talk show host in the Showtime's mini-series, The Comeback Girl.

Now those plans have been scrapped as the network does not have Jones Life Rights variety reported.

The rights are currently held by the funny woman's daughter, Melissa.

Of course.

It could have gone the unauthorized route.

Jones' jokes and trademark catchphrases could not have been used without wrinkling Melissa or the estate.

So here's what I want to say.

First of all, when I saw this headline, I knew Miss Melissa Rivers had something to do with it.

I just knew it in my bones.

And, And, you know, as much as I was really excited about this, something about the whole thing just didn't feel like it was going to be the moment.

And I think that as much as I would literally like love and die for a TV show about Joan, I don't know if that was the right way to do it.

Like, I really feel like Joan deserves like a motion picture that could be nominated for an Oscar with like a mega, mega, mega, mega star playing her.

I love Catherine Hahn, but she's not that.

And I don't know if she's really capable of being Joan.

So I don't know.

I'm like sad, we're not getting it, but I don't know if it was the right avenue to take because this is a woman whose life is very important and her story must be told in the right way.

So I don't know if this was the right way.

I feel that.

Now that thinking on it, you know, I'm sure it might have not been everything that we wanted.

Therefore, it would have been disappointing.

So I guess it's better to have nothing than to have that.

But still, you know, to have Joan back in the, in the culture and everyone would have been talking about her and like watching her old stuff, like I think Joan deserves that moment.

So I hope that, you know, Melissa and the estate can eventually find the right avenue for Joan's

life rights to be

shown in a, in a, in a great way.

And I do hope it's like

in a high-budget way.

I do.

And I'm concerned.

And I'm concerned now because like Showtime doing a mini-series, like that's pretty, that's not Oscar, you know, Martin Scorsese, but like that's pretty high-end.

And so if she could go to that, what?

It could be better.

Okay, what would be better?

Like a Netflix mini-series?

Because Because that's like Queen's Gambit style.

Like, that's really good.

Well, if it's going to be a mini-series, which I would really think like Joan deserves like Hollywood glamour, Oscar season, movies.

I know, like, one of her, before she died, like, she was super upset that her documentary, A Piece of Work, wasn't nominated for any Oscars, and it totally should have been.

So I think that stuff like that meant a lot to Joan.

And I just think if I, if I were able to choose, I would choose like a major motion picture, star-studded, big director,

big red carpet.

But if it's going to be a mini-series, Showtime is fine, but I don't know, a streaming service.

Like you want the kids to know about Joan, you know?

They deserve to know.

Yeah.

I would prefer a mini series over a movie just because that means we get more content.

Like we get 10 hours worth of content as opposed to an hour and a half.

For sure.

But I'm just thinking of what Joan would have wanted.

Her life is so,

there's so much there.

I don't think it it can fit into an hour and a half.

Well, that's the other thing.

It's like, what era of Joan's life are we focusing on?

Like, you could do 11 mini-series about different times in her life, like the whole Johnny Carson era, her own TV show getting failed, her husband's suicide, her comeback, her second comeback, her third comeback, her fourth comeback, Fashion Police.

Like, you could literally do a mini-series, a movie on one year in Joan's life, and it would be enough content for one whole season.

So, I don't even know what they were trying to focus on.

Catherine Hahn is young, so it had to be like early Joan stuff.

Well, Catherine Hahn is 48, so I think it would have been

younger than 48 and then also older.

She's actually a really great age because she like then

we could get like 30 years worth of Joan.

That's very true.

I mean, selfishly, I think her name is Jean Smart, the woman from Hacks.

I think she would be excellent as Joan.

As the

modern day Joan, yeah, but she's literally just played it.

It's too close to hacks.

Totally, totally.

I don't know.

I'm a little disappointed because I was looking forward to this and I thought, you know, Catherine Hahn Showtime, this is going to be pretty good.

But it's just not our time, you know?

And

when it's not your time, there's nothing to be done about that.

So true.

But also, wait, you said really nailed it.

Like

the loss here is that like Joan will not be in the zeitgeist.

Like if the show was out and popular, people who didn't know Joan or people who weren't alive for a lot of her work, like TikTokers, like it might have encouraged people to become obsessed with Joan.

And we don't, we're not going to get that.

And that's upsetting.

Yes, but I do think we will get it eventually.

You know, I'm sure Melissa has plans for these life rights.

Yeah.

And, you know, Melissa.

I just hope.

I just hope she has good plans.

Right.

Okay.

So so glad you brought that up because it's important to distinguish.

Because when I watched Melissa and Joan's season of Celebrity Apprentice, they kept saying that Melissa was a TV producer and to like use her skills in these various projects because she's a producer, she's a producer, she's a producer.

Now, I'm not really sure what producing she has done.

I'm really not familiar.

I know that she was involved in fashion police.

So I'm just hoping that she doesn't let ego get in the way, if that makes sense.

Like, maybe she wants to be the producer on the show, and whatever network will let her produce it is the one she's going to go with when that might not be the best idea.

Yeah, so we're going a lifetime, right?

Like, that's what, yeah,

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, I'm going to hold out hope.

And,

you know,

I feel for Catherine Hahn because she just got the part of a lifetime.

Literally.

But did you see that there was like conversation?

I mean, it was really, I only saw Sarah Silverman talking about it about this concept of like Jew face and how she doesn't like.

And I think she was using Catherine Hahn as Joan Rivers as an example.

She was.

When someone,

they're portraying the life of someone who is Jewish and is like known for being Jewish and being Jewish as part of their personality and they're played by someone who is not Jewish.

She called that Jew face.

What were your thoughts on that?

I can't speak to the Jew face thing because I don't, I had never heard that word and it sounded like, I can't speak to that.

But I will say when I watched her podcast, when I saw that Catherine Hahn was

doing the role, was I like slightly disappointed someone Jewish wasn't doing it?

Obviously, that's also how I feel about Rachel Brosnaham, like the most Jewish show, Jewish role, Jewish culture, Upper West Side, and she's not not even Jewish.

Like Alex Bornstein is Jewish.

Miss Ungermeyer, Sneaky Brown Knows her with a hidden agenda is Jewish, but Rachel Brosnahan is not.

And that bothers me every time I watch a show, but I still really like the show.

And that's not to say that Rachel Brosnahan doesn't do an absolutely amazing job learning about the culture.

With Catherine Hahn, I was disappointed, especially because Joan was such, such a proud Jew.

Her Jewishness made her funny, made her who she was.

She was always talking about it.

So, I don't know, we live in this culture where recently, like we've we place a lot of importance and value on having authentic actors and actresses whether you're playing someone from the gay community for the trans community we put a lot of emphasis and value on that and i understand that argument i fully do so i feel like it should apply to the jewish community too

yes i hear you you know you're you're making a very good case because before you started

speaking how you felt, I kind of was just like, nah, like just give it to the best person

to play Joan, you know?

But don't you think the best person to play Joan would be someone who's authentically Jewish?

Potentially, but if they tested all these people and Catherine Hahn, like, nailed it, then she nailed it.

That's true.

That's true.

And I just think, and I'm sure that's the way.

But I hear what you're saying, and I actually, you know, I don't know that I would run around saying it's Jew-faced.

No, I definitely would never fucking say that.

Like, ever.

Even if it's true, I never heard that term.

I'm not fucking saying it.

It's definitely a little disappointing yes i'm not gonna go buy it in the streets but i feel that way i felt that way when they announced catherine hahn no shade to catherine hahn at all and i also felt felt that way when i found out rachel prosnahan was was not jewish but keep in mind i found that out halfway through watching the show she was so incredible at being jewish that like it bothers me less because i thought she was jewish and that's really what acting is all about right that's what acting is all about so but it's frustrating you know, for sure.

Cause they're, you know, what, and I, I feel like, I mean, this would be something we touched on with the Dave Chappelle stuff yesterday.

Someone corrected us that why the employees were protesting was not to get the special taken down, was like for more trans representation, trans storytelling.

And it's like, when you think of like what's on Netflix for Jews, it's like, there's two shows about Jews running from evil Jewish communities, you know?

Yep, my Orthodox life and unorthodox.

Right.

It's like, that's all we get in like the worst parts and the most niche, extreme communities.

And so it's like for this Joan thing, like, this is a celebration of all that's great about Judaism.

Like, it should be, I think it should be played by a Jewish person, even if Catherine Hahn was the best person ever on the planet for the role.

I do believe that.

Okay.

Interesting discussion.

Yeah.

You make some fair points.

I'm a fair queen.

You are.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah, for sure.

It's some really sweet love news because Paris Hilton is celebrating her upcoming wedding with a new show on Peacock called Paris in Love.

The trailer dropped yesterday, and it is literally like a full-blown Paris Hilton reality show, which I feel like we've been asking for for the last 20 years.

Yeah.

So they're taking us behind the scenes of, you know, all of her wedding prep, conversations, all of the, you know, things that go into being Paris and planning a wedding.

And it drops on Peacock next month.

And I feel like Paris has had a lot of like docuseries docuseries projects come out recently.

Like she has her cooking show on Netflix.

She had, you know, This is Paris on YouTube.

And now she has like a full-blown reality show on Peacock.

I'm so excited about this show.

It looks like everything we've ever wanted.

The thing with Paris is that like, and I think that's something like her brand has leaned into in the last few years is like the more you know about her, the more you like her.

Like you think you know Paris from the iconic paparazzi pictures, her and Brittany, her and Lindsay.

But like when you actually sit down like in the documentary on YouTube and you listen to her, like there's so much there.

So actually a docuseries, a reality show is the perfect type of thing for her.

And I actually did go to her engagement party like last month

and they were filming.

So it was like full-blown, like looks like they were filming Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

And it was a star-studded affair.

Chris Jenner and Corey were there.

Amy Schumer was there.

Nikki and Kathy obviously were there and they were filming for the show.

Corey and Chris are in the trailer, as you see.

And then also, of course, like Paris, I mean, Kathy, hilton her mom nikki and kyle richards are also in it it's just like the journey to the altar for paris and it seems like it gets pretty personal like it's it's very you know it's a reality show and it's it's not just like some packaged thing which i feel like it could have been do you think she's gonna film the wedding

well the show's done

okay like i don't know if there's ongoing filming so

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

But it looks really...

What?

Kudos to Peacock.

Kudos to Peacock.

It looks so good, and I'm so excited to watch it.

And like, Paris is, you know, she's doing the damn thing.

A really quick question for you.

I didn't ask, but is one of the stories about Marlowe Hampton

getting a peach?

Yeah.

No.

Can we talk about it really quickly?

Please, let's.

So Sheree is returning to Real Housewives of Atlanta, as is Marlowe Hampton, as finally a full-time cast member.

She got her peach.

Okay, I didn't see Sheree.

That's really crazy.

And two, so Re Marlowe, I was under the impression that all these years, like the peach was hers if she wanted it.

She just couldn't accept it.

So are you saying that, you know, the walls came down in her personal life and she's now able to accept the peach?

So, I mean, as far as I know as well, it was always up for grabs if she wanted it.

I don't know if that's true or not, but that's just like as far as, you know, the blogs and everything said.

So I don't know if there was a shit.

She's been a full, she's been a cast member this whole time.

She just wasn't holding a peach.

She has been the straw that stirs the drink for the last 10 years without ever once having a tagline.

So I don't know what the circumstances are that made it possible now.

But as far as I know, yes, she was always able to become a housewife, but she had never accepted the offer.

Because of, like, you know, sometimes people have like legal stuff and

there's other people in their life who won't like allow it.

But maybe, maybe this time, and especially because of the losses of, you know, Cynthia leaving and Portia, like maybe Bravo made her an offer that she could not refuse.

Yeah, because, you know, Atlanta is one of those franchises that's dangerously, dangerously close.

They're not there yet, but they're very close to having the same fate as OC and New York.

They're almost there because the OG franchises, like, don't know how to exist anymore.

Yeah.

How do you feel about Sheree?

What are your thoughts on

obsessed beyond belief?

Sheree is one of those housewives who is so iconic.

First of all, she's been fired twice and asked back twice.

Like, that is just,

we love a queen who can come back.

And she's just like kind of delusional, which I love in a housewife because it makes for just funny moments.

Joggers.

Joggers.

Spring, summer.

Yeah.

To a degree, I'm the delusion.

It's just.

I'm personally obsessed.

Oh, well, I'm so happy for you.

I am,

I'm open.

I'm open.

I'm not convinced, but I'm open.

And I love her house, Chateau Charae.

Chateau Charae.

Yes, yes, yes.

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

Which is

the thing about Charae, I just remembered, is she was really like the catalyst in that stupid fucking storyline about everyone comparing their houses.

Like Chateau Charae, Moore Manor, the lighting fixtures, the molding on the basement.

Like that was so funny and stupid.

And like, that was really all Charae.

Like she was competing with everyone in their houses.

So you know what?

I'm actually really excited.

Yeah, I agree.

Our next story is some fun film news.

I just love like a film fun fact.

Reese Witherspoon is sharing and reacting to Stanford breaking their no-filming room rule after they rejected Legally Blonde.

So, back in the day, Reese was supposed to film Legally Blonde at Stanford, and Elle was supposed to go to Stanford, but Stanford would not let them film the movie there.

So, they took their talents to Harvard.

And now, 20 years later, Stanford has broke their rule that says that you can't film there.

Oh.

And Reese is sharing, you know, the fun fact that they wouldn't let them film Legally Blonde there.

So she went to Harvard instead.

Which, by the way, like,

I mean, both really prestigious, but like Harvard is iconic.

Cause it's not the same.

Like, you go to Stanford, what?

Like, it's hard?

That's not the same as Harvard.

Well, the thing is about Stanford is like, now that you're telling me this, I can really see that being the storyline.

She's a Malibu girl.

She loves California.

So like, obviously, Stanford seems like the easiest place for her to go.

But it being this cross-country, like different, such a different vibe, you know, waspy versus like West Coast money, it actually made it a much more interesting storyline.

And it made Elle stand out that much more.

So it really definitely was a blessing in disguise.

Like, her pulling up, if she pulled up in a pink, you know, Ferrari or whatever it was, convertible to Stanford, like maybe not that many people would have turned around.

But in, you know, Boston, all these like Connecticut wasps are so buttoned up.

Like it was, it was really more apparent how different she was.

Yeah, it was much more of a culture shock.

And you know, I think like Stanford might even be like the number one law school in the country, but it's just like Harvard is Harvard.

And so I think Elle really, I think Elle really benefited from this.

Stanford is like so shady.

Why?

Oh, because of the like the rowing thing.

Yeah, well, that college admissions Netflix dramatized.

I don't even know what to call it.

It was like a play.

They really made me hate Stanford like a lot.

Yeah.

And now, knowing that they turned down L, like sick, twisted.

Twisted.

Twisted.

But you know what?

Now I guess I never really thought about it.

Did they really film on premises of Harvard?

And I guess they did.

I think that they did.

It was so Harvard-y.

That movie just gave us like every, like they didn't, they didn't cut one corner.

Not one single corner.

But if they wanted Stanford, they also could have just like billed a set.

Yeah.

No, but like, but it felt so real.

Like, I don't think they could have achieved that with a set.

No.

You know?

Anyways, Elle's better off for it.

100%.

Harvard alum.

And would she have met Emmett if she didn't go to Harvard?

No.

No, she would have met West Coast Emmett, Luke.

The brother.

Life works in mysterious ways.

Totally.

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Okay, our next story is some fun book-to-film news, fun for the campers too, because Billy Porter will direct and star in a film adaptation of the YA novel Camp for HBO Max.

Wait.

I don't think there's any relation to the movie Camp from back in the day.

Fuck.

Okay, because Billy Porter would be amazing in that.

Right.

I thought it was going to, originally, I thought it might be like a remake of that, but it's based on a

book that is not that movie.

Billy Porter is preparing to spend a summer at camp.

The actor is set to direct and star in the upcoming film adaptation of Lev A.C.

Rosen's popular YA novel for H.B.O.

Max and Warner Brothers, According to Deadline.

So this is really exciting.

Billy will be playing the camp theater director.

Oh, that's true.

It's just

going to be spectacular.

I mean,

I don't know what this book is about, about, but I'm assuming it's about a camp.

Would you like a little synopsis?

Yeah, sure.

I don't think I've ever even heard of this book.

The story, well, it's YA, so.

I'm such a young adult, Jackie.

Don't insult me.

Unless Snitch recommended it.

The story follows Randy, a 16-year-old boy, who spends his summers at Camp Outland, a camp for

queer teens.

While there, he meets and falls in love with Hudson, who was only into straight acting guys, the opposite of who Randy is.

Randy sets out to reinvent himself into someone Hudson could fall for, only to ask himself how far he is willing to change for someone else.

Wow.

Sounds very YA.

Sounds very YA, and it's all set at camp.

Like, this honestly sounds like a great movie.

It's going to be at HBO Max.

And I love when books turn into movies.

I really do.

Me too.

Justin Baldoni and Colleen Hoover are like teasing so much on TikTok about It Ends With Us movie.

And they're giving us like nothing.

They're just teasing.

I don't even know if they've started.

Like they're really building up hype so far in advance.

I hope they don't let me down.

Damn.

It takes so long to get a book to a movie.

Like, you can't even think, get excited about it.

Like, I really try not to think about Luckiest Girl Alive, even though I know.

You know what?

At least they started filming.

Like, Justin Belgium, I think they just finished a script.

Like, that's how early the stages are.

Yikes.

Yikes.

Bikes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's rough.

Well, are you ready for a fifth and final story?

Are we going to sing about it?

Long distance singing.

Unless you want a solo.

I think you deserve the solo for putting

me.

No, I'm okay today.

I'll let you know when I need to let out my fifth and final story aggression.

I'm quite fine.

I'm fine too.

It's the final story.

No, I'm done.

Okay.

I'm fine.

It's the final story, you guys.

Yeah, now you know.

Travis Barker gets fiancé Courtney Kardashian's lips tattooed on his arm.

So Travis Travis Barker's artwork, body art, is making a lot of news.

Not only did he get Courtney's lips tattooed on his arm, he also covered up his tattoo of Shauna's name and he put a scorpion on top of it.

I think that's a scorpion at least.

Yeah, so here's the thing.

I obviously like when people who are really into tattoos, they get their, you know, partners' names, things change.

I only feel weird about this because I don't like that he covered Shanna's name,

Shanna.

I don't like that he covered her name with Courtney.

It makes it seem like Courtney's might be covered up next.

Like, I think he should have covered Shanna Moegler's name, but then also given Courtney her own premium spot, like on his neck or something.

Interesting.

Well, he covered her name with the scorpion, and then the lips are next to it.

So it's not like lips over Shanna, but they are on the same, they're all on the same upper arm of the arm.

Yeah, it's like where my fat flaps, but for him, it's like the bat wings, yeah, yeah, it's called for some of us.

But see, like, I just think, I just think it's weird.

Like, I wish that he had put Courtney elsewhere.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that he's going to be putting Courtney a lot of places in

the next few years.

I think this is just her first stop on the tattoo train.

They're being kind of like low-key post-engagement.

Do you agree?

Yeah,

sort of.

I guess low-key for them, but

I think they're just living life.

I'm just living life.

Yeah.

No.

ABCDEFG.

Hmm?

I have to go.

Yeah, I guess they're probably just enjoying, you know, post-engagement bliss.

Yeah, they're probably on a trip or something.

Yeah, they're always on a trip.

I know.

And they're also, like, always home with the kids.

Yeah.

And they're always at Disney.

You know what?

They should have their own show called Blended.

They really, they really should.

They should.

No, like, I'm actually not even kidding.

No, meaning.

By the way, speaking of things that we love, did you see these new Annie Live promo pics?

Okay, you guys.

Harry Connick Jr.

posted a picture of him, Annie, and Sandy.

And he also posted a solo shot of him, his daddy Warbucks, bald and all.

And he looks like Jeff Bezos.

Oh my God, no, he doesn't.

He looks like.

So they made him bald, which he's obviously not bald.

So he's wearing a bald cap.

And I actually think he has really, really thick hair under the bald cap that's not being hidden perfectly well.

So he actually looks like a square head.

Like he looks like a robot with like a computer for a head.

I just feel like in this situation, this is also reminding, this is reminding me of Jewface and also impeachment fat suit gate.

Yeah.

That they really could have benefited from having an actual bald person.

Or Harry Cotter Jr.

should have shaved his head.

Yeah, but you said he has a nice head of hair.

You know, so he probably might not want to give it up for just for just for one night as daddy warbucks.

Really?

Well, if he was that committed to the role, Jackie, maybe he would.

No, so I'm saying, like, do you think a real bald man should have gotten the role?

By the way, now you're really making me contradict myself because I remember when we spoke about impeachment, I was like, who fucking cares?

Like, let her wear a fat suit.

But then I'm also over here being like, you know, Jews should play Jews.

And should bald people play bald people?

You know what?

I'm really contradicting myself.

But I guess like Judaism is an identity and like a religion and like weight is fluctuating.

I don't know.

I don't know why I feel, I still, I stand by what I said about impeachment and I stand by what I said about

Brosnahan.

So that's where your line is.

I guess.

That's where you draw the line.

And I mean, I think that makes sense.

It's also a case-by-case basis, you know?

Yeah, I guess.

But then it's just like, then you're all over the place.

Have we met?

I'm Claudia, and I'm all over the place.

Yeah, so, anyways, I mean, Annie Live.

Annie looks great.

Sandy looks great.

Sandy looks gorgeous.

And actually,

so authentic to the OG Sandy.

Has anybody heard from Theo since those pictures dropped?

Like, I heard he's fucking devastated.

He didn't get the role.

Wait, he was right here.

He's literally sleeping, crying under the dining room table oh my god theo like it's not the this isn't the one you the role you want in

it's not you it's them theo it's not your time no it's not your time but annie did look unbelievably cute unbelievably cute i'm still excited because even if it goes off the rails even if it goes off the rails like it's gonna be something to watch like something worth participating in can you remind me when it's coming out

it's coming out december and I think it's December 7th.

I just, um, let me, you know what, let me get a date.

I'll send you a calendar invite.

We'll make a chili.

No, I would really love for it to be like a few weeks later while everyone's on holiday break.

Like we watch it together as a family.

December 2nd.

No, I have a show that night.

You're lying.

I swear it's the opening night of my tour, sold out in Minneapolis.

You have a show?

Are you in any line?

Wait, Claudia,

I just found a bit more of casting news that slipped through the cracks.

What?

So Lily St.

Regis, who is

Rooster's girlfriend,

is being played by Jane Krakowski.

Cold star.

It is officially an Oscar-worthy

performance.

Yeah.

I mean, it's not a big enough role for her, but

you know what?

There will never be a role big enough for Jane Lynch.

Oh, wait.

Do you think Jane Lynch or Jane Krakowski?

Jane Krakowski, Jenna Moroney.

Okay, she's good too, but I thought you were talking about Jane Lynch and I like.

Jacqueline White.

No, I understand.

She's excellent.

I adore her, but I just got excited over the possible Jane Lynch of it all.

No, if Jane Lynch were in it, she would have to be Miss Hannigan.

Oh, that's a good casting, first of all.

And actually, you know, Jane Lynch is on Broadway in Funny Girl.

So obviously everyone who watched Glee is like, lol, Rachel Berry never made it to Funny Girl, but Sue Sylvester did.

Coach Sue made it to Broadway.

It's actually pretty funny.

That's hysterical.

Yeah.

That's really funny.

Okay, well, that's your Annie Live update for the day, everyone.

You know, we'll get the official countdown going.

I think it's about 40 days till Annie Live.

Ooh.

So it's really, really exciting.

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Let's talk about bander pump rules.

I'm not gonna lie, I really

like there was a bombshell that was thrown down last night, and I didn't think they were gonna show us.

If they were, I thought they were gonna wait till next week.

But Lala really is out here moving the needle on this show because if it weren't for Lala, I don't know what the fuck we would be talking about.

Like, I can't withstand of all anymore.

He's looking creepier and creepier with his mustache and then like his sweaty, up-close workout scenes.

Like, it was just so unnecessary, so extra.

Like, I have to have a boys' night and wear a cowboy hat.

Like, there's nothing interesting, funny, or cool about it.

Sorry, but I completely agree.

Back to the show.

And the whole cast has like turned on Lala for blowing this thing wide open.

But I just want to say, if the show aired and we met Brock and we heard he didn't meet his, hasn't seen his kids in four years, like someone would have found the reasoning on like this was going to get out you were on a reality show if you have a criminal past if you have documents in the court that you have a restraining order against your ex-wife like she has friends etc like this was going to come out so for it to not come out on the show would have been asinine and also like until we had a reason to understand why you haven't seen your kids in four years like we weren't letting this go no it was like this huge bombshell that was dropped.

I have four kids and I haven't seen them in four years.

And there was no, he was kept trying to make it seem like the reason he hasn't seen them is because he moved to America.

But there are these amazing things called planes.

So it's like, why wouldn't you speak to them on FaceTime?

FaceTime.

Right.

So he dropped the bomb and he left us all curious.

There was a piece missing.

And you know what?

Lala went out and found that piece.

And I'm grateful because I was confused too.

And now that I know this information, I feel so bad for Sheena.

And like, you know, I feel like she's like stuck in this relationship.

And she's trying so hard to convince herself and everyone around her that it's going to be okay.

And I don't know what the circumstances are of Brock's domestic violence and restraining order with his ex-wife, but that's never good.

So, I'm just now, and I actually really do believe Lala when she says she's coming from a place of caring for Sheena because Sheena, I think, looks at the world through rose-colored glasses because she is like this really just sweet girl who sees the best in everyone.

And that's just not, might not be the case.

Yeah, I think Lala's coming coming from a good place.

I think for Sheena, I think right now in her relationship with Brock though, like I think Sheena is happy.

Like I think that he is a good dad to Summer, but it's like this looming thing of like, this is what this man is capable of.

But Sheena says like she knew from the, from the moment that she met him and still like she wanted to have.

children with him and she this is her partner.

So but I think what Lala was saying and first of all I thought she was so genuine and clearly she's in like a very similar place to Sheena so she really relates to her and like can just see everything through a similar lens.

But when she was saying like Sheena, you can't be stupid because like in the past, Sheena has been extremely stupid when it comes to men.

And it's always, it's actually been always less serious than in this case

in particular.

But like with Rob and like just, you know, letting people.

walk all over her and just becoming like anyone that they're looking for until like it's unit's unsustainable but now like she can't do that shit anymore she can't just like let a bad person come into her life and walk all over it because of her daughter and I think that's what Lala was trying to say.

Like, even though, and I think really, it's not so much stupidity, it's like it's just naivete and like wanting to see the best in people.

I think that's what Sheena's thing really is, especially wanting to see in the best in her boyfriends.

Yeah, but that's seen as a bad thing.

She doesn't give that same grace to her friends because she just automatically assumes Lala is coming from a nefarious placement.

I don't think Lala could have brought it up in a more respectful way.

And also, she was not, she almost didn't bring it, she didn't say it in front of the group.

Sheena told her to say it.

Well, so the thing is, is that Brock pulled Lala and Randall aside after they were off camera to tell her, basically being like, this is a situation.

Like, can you just like leave it there?

And I think that Brock was upset with himself for trusting Lala to not bring it up on camera.

He obviously doesn't want this brought up on camera.

And Lala did just that.

Yeah, I mean, I guess she shouldn't, like, technically, she shouldn't have repeatedly.

No, no, Lala's doing her job.

But yeah, Lala's doing her job.

And also, I thought it was really strange when he had his tantrum in the driveway and then said, like, life is a different game when you're not sucking dick for Range Rovers.

Ooh, that was fucking low.

I thought, I mean, yeah, it's a mean thing to say, but I thought it was so weird because it was like a direct quote from this show.

And it's like, have you watched every single episode and studied all the lines?

That's actually a really good point because the whole Range Rover was a whole storyline like three years ago.

Yeah.

And also it was, no, it was literally like four years ago that this happened.

So you don't know.

Like, if there wasn't a show about this, you wouldn't know that that's like what they say about Lala.

That's so funny.

I just thought it was such like a tell that he's like all studied up on the cast.

Jackie, you are truly a clairvoyant future teller.

That's so fucking true.

So that just struck me wrong.

And like, I just,

I hate that there's no one like, it seems like it's Lala versus the rest of the cast.

I don't think Lala gives a fuck though.

No, but it's frustrating to watch because all these people, like when they're strength in numbers, so when everybody is like

saying the same thing about someone, they just assume that they're right.

And then it takes like watching the show, even though people, I was like reading on Twitter and stuff, I think people really don't like Lala, like some fans of the show.

I feel that.

I can't relate, but no, me neither.

But it's also like those are the same people who think Tom Sandoval is like the best coolest guy.

Yeah, so like, those just are my people.

Um, I actually really

had a lot of respect, and I was very moved by Katie Maloney sharing the story of her having an abortion and feeling like that might have been a factor as to why they're having trouble conceiving.

And I was incredibly relieved when she showed her whole vagiotomy on the show, which was very cool.

And her uterus is in pristine condition, and I was very relieved.

And I thought that that before it went sour, I thought the lunch was with Lisa when she was really like genuinely wanting to meet the babies.

I thought that was a sweet moment.

And you know, I see the worst in Lisa Vanderpump.

Yeah, I thought it was sweet.

I thought the whole spread was really cute.

Like, these are all grown women now, and they're acting like it.

You know, it's not just like we're going over for cocktails, like, we can have lunch like the adults that we are.

And I also felt that in that fertility scene with Katie and Schwartz, when the doctor was asking him all those questions about his lifestyle, I felt like there was a lot of good information that came out of it just for the viewers.

Mushrooms.

You know, like the stuff, mushrooms, the stuff.

No, not even like tea, but just the stuff stuff about taking really hot baths or being like or.

Oh, you meant it was educational.

It was educational for anyone else who might be trying to get pregnant.

I thought.

Yeah, I can definitely see how marijuana would like lower your sperm count and like hot tubs, hot baths.

Yeah, and it's really funny that just four hours before like he took a scalding hot bath.

Totally.

I actually really enjoyed that storyline.

I usually find stuff like that, like doctor stuff, to be like kind of boring.

But I really do love Katie and Tom.

And the last thing I wanted to say about Vanderpump rules really quickly.

Well, while we're just talking about Katie and Tom, I just want to talk about when Tom Sandoval had another breakdown during

DF.

Oh, that's what I wanted to ask you.

What do you think about the concept of DFH?

I thought it was a really good idea.

The fact that it's not already on the market is a bit of an issue because this was filmed two years.

Yeah.

And no, there's two years' worth of drinking from home that was missed.

No, not only that, she's promoting it on the TV show now and it's not even available in real time.

I didn't even go to see if it was available, but it's like, you know, people are, bars are open.

Like, people do, there's less drinking from home that's happening.

It's a good, it, I just, I hope that the timing is still right, but I do think it's a really, really good idea, and they're the exact right people to do it.

Totally.

But when Tom Sandoval had a breakdown about, you know, he doesn't like the energy of Tom Schwartz when he's around Katie, I was like.

His wife?

Yeah, it's like

she's a new girl he's dating and it's like, I don't like who you are around her.

It's like, this is his fucking wife.

You don't like it.

You're the, you're the temporary person in this situation.

You're the one who doesn't have binding legal documents between you two.

Get the fuck out of here.

Oh, also,

Tom Schwartz's home equity loan being denied and Tom Sandoval saying he'll pay.

Like this restaurant, the more I hear about it.

I want to scream through the TV, put my hands through and shake them.

Like, this is not a good idea.

The show is on its last leg.

You already have one successful restaurant that you have to put up very little money for.

Lisa's going to run the whole thing.

It'll be a guaranteed success for a few years.

This restaurant is the dumbest fucking idea.

I'm screaming, begging, hoping, stop.

I know.

I do hope that by the end of the season, it's like they've decided not to do it.

And maybe it was just all for a storyline.

Because I don't think so.

I know.

I'm just hoping because it's extremely financially unwise.

And again, like Tom Sandoval is saying, on the one hand, he's saying he'll cover Schwartz's piece until he can pay him back, just being, you know, like the generous extra person.

Yeah, but he wants to be 67% shareholder.

Right.

But he only said that in his confessional.

Yeah.

In front of Tom, he said, I got you.

And then in his confessional, he said he's the controlling party.

No, he's the sneakiest person on the show.

Yeah.

He's all wrong.

I do think that like the,

you know, everybody else leaving the cast, especially Jax being gone, because Jax was always like the foil to Tom Sandoval and they were always fighting and Jax was always the villain.

So you just assumed Tom was like the victim.

Has really shown him being on has really shown a spotlight on how unreasonable.

Unreasonable, annoying, all like I just, I can't with Tom Sandoval.

Same.

Yeah.

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