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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Monday.

Hope everybody had a splendid, refreshing, and truly glorious weekend.

And if you didn't, that's too bad because it's Monday and we got to get back to work.

We've got to get back to work.

I'm sorry to tell you guys.

I don't know if you knew already, but it is Monday.

And that just never gets easier to swallow.

No, that's such a good point.

Like, it is Monday.

And some people might have not known that until we told them.

And you guys know it is our job here to tell you what day of the week it is.

When it is that day.

When it is that day, and how we're going to make it through the week.

So that's what we're here to do.

We're here to make it through the week.

But you know what?

I actually have another amazing weekend.

I think that we're going to make it through this week.

Let me tell you why.

Just this is my, this is my guess.

Okay.

I think we're all still riding high off the announcement of my tour.

Like we all got our tickets.

Some of us missed out on tickets.

Some shows sold out.

Like we're all all freaking, it's exciting.

You know, our blood is pumping.

Tickets available at girl on their job.com slash tour.

Tomorrow, we have a big merch launch.

Like we have our insanely gorgeous.

Insanely gorgeous.

Claudia is wearing the reissued TMT sorority sweatshirt.

So last week I wore the old one that I've had for three years.

This is the new one.

So you can see how it's pigmented, how it's not been torn apart by the washing machine yet, how it's so stunning.

The pink is so pleny.

It's everything of the sort.

You need it for fall.

I actually read the cutest comment yesterday.

Someone commented on our picture where I was wearing that sweatshirt.

She said she found that sweatshirt at Goodwill.

And so she googled the morning toast, and now she's a toaster.

Don't you just love to see it?

Don't you just, I'm assuming she's a toaster because she commented, but.

Don't you love to see that?

You know, literally, that is such a crazy story.

Right?

Who the fuck sent our sweatshirt to Goodwill?

I don't know, but it's free marketing.

Thank you.

Okay.

Anyways, I am wearing this new sweatshirt that says toasty.

It's perfect for fall.

So cozy is champagne champagne glasses on the arms.

It comes with matching shorts, but since I'm a big pregnant lady, and it's freezing, those shorts were just not happening for me today.

And mostly because, not because the shorts don't fit, they fit totally fine.

It's just because I can't be bothered to shave my legs.

So it's also really cold.

Like you would be insane if you wore shorts today.

No shorts for me, but the set is so cute.

It's perfect for winter, like just for a cozy fall vibe.

You need it.

And what?

I'm also launching homewear, glassware, and iPhone accessories.

You've shown us our iPhones.

We're 13.

So we've got all the sizes, you guys.

Don't worry about it.

This is the sorority sweatshirt, but in a case.

And then we've got this tumbler that I've been secretly, not so subtly using for like the last six months.

And I'm just obsessed.

So we're finally selling these on Tuesday.

Everything is dropping at shopmorning toast.com.

We, Jackie, you wore the one of our new crew necks on Friday.

Yes.

And it's civil.

Oh, Thursday, Thursday.

Yeah.

And then tomorrow, the everything drops.

We'll be wearing more things.

Also, we have two crop t-shirts dropping that are so cute because, you know, sometimes you just need a t-shirt.

I actually need it.

I don't own like t-shirts, period.

I'm always wearing like a sweater.

So I'm very much looking forward to incorporating these t-shirts into my wardrobe.

They're like the perfect, say they say TMT and like the sorority letters on it.

They're just like perfect to wear under a blazer or something.

You know, you just need a t-shirt.

Well, what I was going to say is like, yes, we are launching two t-shirts, but unfortunately, both of the hosts refused to model them.

No, why?

Because they're cropped.

I'm going to wear it tomorrow.

I just forgot to take it home with me.

I'm cool with the crop.

I could be bumping.

Well, have you, well, you never seen friends, but towards the end of Rachel's pregnancy, she's pregnant for like literally six years, she starts walking around in a crop top.

Cute.

Yeah.

I mean, Kylie's doing it.

That's true.

They're not that crop.

They're like to the belly button.

Yeah.

So that's really exciting.

They drop at 10 a.m.

tomorrow, shopmorning toast.com.

As always, you know, there is...

We have a lot of quantity, but it is a limited lot of quantity.

So if you want something and you know that you want it, I would hop on early to make sure that you get it.

Sign alarm.

Yeah.

10 a.m.

Eastern time.

Shopmorning Toast.com.

Mm-hmm.

And then continuing on with our exciting week of exciting tings, Wednesday, we'll be in studio.

We'll be being fabulous.

But what you might not realize is that that is my last show of the week.

And don't worry, I'm not leaving you guys like I did because I already just took a week off.

But, you know, she forgot to put it in for PTO.

I forgot to put it in for PTO because I don't know if anyone else is struggling with like so many weddings.

Like, I don't know how I'm supposed to organize my calendar and like have a job when it's literally wedding, wedding, wedding, brattle shower, bachelorette, like all this COVID backup.

I'm sorry, I did drop the ball.

But you know what?

The toasters

have

ultimately benefit.

So Wednesday will be my last show.

I'm going to Rome.

But Thursday, Friday, and Monday, Ben is going to be filling in for me in studio.

So it'll be fun and exciting.

Like, Ben, yes.

So we're really like

definitely going to make it through this week.

I've never been more sure.

I guess when you think about it that way, it makes the week a little bit more exciting, more palatable from the vantage point of this Monday.

You know?

Yeah.

Because it's a Monday Monday.

It was such a nice, cozy weekend.

It's just gorgeous.

Waking up this morning, it was like still one of those like cozy, it's getting darker, like later into the morning, and you just don't want to get out of bed.

But I had a really great relaxing weekend.

So I'm here.

I'm feeling, I'm feeling as good as can be on a Monday.

Of course.

I mean, I had a hectic fucking morning.

I literally rolled over and it was 9.52 and I like ran screaming into it.

That's crazy.

I ran screaming.

I'm like, Ben, why the fuck did you wake me up?

He was just sitting in the living room.

Yeah.

It's like, oh, I thought you were like doing your makeup.

Like, check.

Like, and you know what?

Now that I think about it, it's Ben's fault.

Obviously.

Whose fault is it going to be?

Mine?

Theo's.

The thing is, is like, and what I really thought about, I used to oversleep all the time, like for like college and just like life.

But I don't think I've really overslept once in the couple years we've been doing the show.

No, I think that you have, but it's never been like so bad that like you missed the show or something.

Like, you know, it's never been after 10.30.

Oh, no, of course not.

There's been, like, and I, I, I have also, like, sometimes like missed my alarm.

And you get here on time, but you're just, like, chaotic.

No, I literally was asleep not even 30 minutes ago.

Like, I'm a zombie.

That's really crazy.

And that feeling when you're like, you roll over and meet said 9.52 and your whole body just like shakes.

It's the worst thing in the world.

And that feeling felt so far into me.

Like, I really haven't done that in years.

You needed the sleep.

I'm glad you got your Z's.

100% I needed the sleep.

As opposed to like my husband's alarm going off when it was still dark out.

And I know he he didn't get up when it was like what

you said alarms for the middle of the night.

That's what you're doing these days.

It was just fucking with my REM cycle.

Not cool.

Discutsing.

And like, think about Brew.

What if Brew heard that?

His whole day is ruined.

So obviously, we have an amazing show for you guys.

Wheelhouse has a Potomac and Salt Lake City.

We're on, and we're going to recap it at the end.

But I did want to say, I too had a relaxing weekend.

I watched an impeachment.

Okay.

I am going to file a motion.

I'm filing a message.

I'm not going to spoil anything.

No, that's not the motion.

I'm filing a motion to move all TV recaps to the end of the show for people who haven't watched yet, aren't gonna watch, don't care, spoiler alerts, etc.

Honest, etc.

You read a couple podcast reviews and you've been acting so different.

And honestly, no, I'm not giving in.

I'm not.

No, but it makes sense.

Some people don't want to hear about impeachment.

No, the thing is, like, the stuff that we put in the TV recap is very much reality-based.

And I think, like, the scripted part of the show is always at the beginning, and I think it's fine.

Okay, I just saw that comment and it made sense to me.

And I'm saying, like, we must stop living for the comments, like, we have to live for ourselves.

We're not living for the comments, but I

don't believe in like reading all comments and just dismissing them all as negative and unconstructive.

No, but

I take but I don't think that like, okay, maybe you would prefer it this way, but it's not like destructive to the show for me to talk about impeachment now versus in 40 minutes.

No, it's not, but like I also watched Younger This Week and I would like to talk about it.

Right.

And but there is a TV segment in which we can talk about it.

That TV segment is like so already built out.

Do you know what I mean?

And like, usually, by the time we're done recapping housewise, like, we don't even want to talk about the thing we wanted to talk about at the beginning.

We're just like, oh, yeah, I like watching Page Man.

It was great.

Like, you know?

Okay, I mean, you guys will obviously weigh in here and let us know what you think.

Today, you can have it your way.

I just don't, I think you really need to stop reading a podcast.

I don't read them that often.

You read them once and everything changed.

Like, we couldn't sing anymore our loud songs.

We had to move the TV recap to the back.

Like, there was something else, too.

Like, who cares?

Like, this is our show.

A lot of people.

This is our show.

A lot of people care.

You're gonna, you can talk about impeachment today, and you guys let us know.

I think it does, it makes sense in the order of things.

I think, yes, on the surface, it makes sense.

But when it comes into actually executing it, like, by the end of the show, we're like mentally exhausted.

And, like, okay, we'll just have to get through housewives.

Like, we're not thinking clearly at the end of the show.

I think it's important for people to know that before they put their input in.

Okay.

You guys?

Well, impeachment is unbelievably good.

It's so so annoying because there's six episodes out and there's going to be 10 total.

So like me and Ben were so into it.

And then we were like, what?

So that was frustrating.

Now, I have two things to say.

While I do think Beanie Feltstein did a great job, I do not think it was the role for her.

Like she's,

first of all, she doesn't really look like Monica.

She just has bangs.

And everyone else looks...

Exactly like the Linda Tripp.

I had to look up what Linda Tripp looked like.

Sarah Paulson is incredibly talented.

One, because she looks just like Linda Tripp.

And two, I didn't know Linda Tripp personally.

I don't know anything about her.

But if, like, if she is like what Sarah Paulson made her out to be, like, she's the most annoying human being on the fucking planet.

Sarah Paulson really has that effect on her characters.

100%.

Marvelous.

It's like she's perfect for it.

Yeah.

Yes.

She plays like hatable figures.

Or is she just hateable?

Good question.

I don't know.

Also, what's so crazy is like, I honestly know very, very little about the Monica Lewinsky thing because it was when I was three years old.

Yeah.

So for me, I feel like I'm watching like a totally fictional series and it's like, I'm like, what's going to happen next?

Even though most people probably know what happens next.

Like I know literally nothing.

Like I didn't even know about that guy like in the Clinton administration who like killed himself.

Like I didn't know any of this.

So it's all just like, it's all really happening for me.

But what's so crazy is like it really wasn't that long ago.

So so many of the people who they meet when they're traversing around DC like still working like Jake Tapper was like, you know, some guy she met at a bar.

Like there's so many people who are like, we still know they're like famous in politics and like they're literally in the show.

So that's just like crazy because it it feels so far away because but it's like not at all yeah um

so yes I was actually very curious like whose story are we telling you know is this Monica's story is it Linda Tripp's story is it Bill's story like whose story is it and so I did Monica's story so I did see that Monica was involved with Ryan Murphy like I I just wanted to know I'm sure you know everyone perceived experienced the thing differently like the scandal so who's and we're taking monica's side and honestly like justice for fucking Monica, it's so sad.

Like, it's okay, whatever.

The only other problem I had with the show, and I know I'm complaining a lot, but I did actually really like it, is Bill Clinton is like butt ugly.

Like, no one can deny that

in real life.

Oh my god, I don't know who the man is who's playing him, but like, he is handsome, and he's doing the whole job, like a little too well.

Cause I'm like, yes, Bill.

And, like, Bill Clinton is not hot.

Like, Bill Clinton today.

No, even when he was president.

Are you sure?

You looked up pictures from when he was president.

Of course.

And he wasn't like, you know, gorgeous, but he was,

he wasn't like heinous, but he wasn't gorgeous.

And this guy who's playing him, oh my God, he's so hot.

Like, and he's like, so presidential, you know?

Yeah.

So I do feel like that's factually inaccurate.

And I just like my shows to be more accurate historically.

And also like, where is Hillary?

Like, Edie Falco plays Hillary.

She's in.

One scene in the bathroom in the first episode.

She doesn't say one word.

She just washes her hands and walks out.

And then literally, like, last night's episode, she was like sleeping in the bed, and we didn't see her.

Like, where's Hillary?

I mean, that kind of tracks.

She, she wasn't, yeah.

No, I'm sure that, like, this is a

big stain on her life.

That's true.

I'm sure the people who are writing the show would like to keep her out of it.

Yeah, well, she's there, and Edie Falco looks just like her.

Yeah, like crazy like her.

Or maybe she pops up in the last four episodes.

I have them all recorded.

Like, I'm gonna, I'm, I don't want to experience what you experience.

I want to watch all 10, even though I feel like it might be a lot to watch all at once.

Like, I remember when I watched the last American crime story, O.J.

Simpson, and I watched every week, but it felt like the whole country was watching every week.

So, you know, that was a fun activity for all of us.

It was just like a lot to digest every week.

And you kind of needed the week to sit with it.

Like, you couldn't just like bang them out.

No, I watched OJ in one sitting.

It wasn't a bangable show.

I don't think that you did because we watched it at the same time.

I didn't watch it episodically at all.

I think I maybe started watching when like the second to last episode premiered.

Interesting.

I hate watching things weekly.

Like it just, it grinds my gears.

So the fact that I have now a whole month left of impeachment is disgusting.

Yeah.

No, I won't make that mistake.

It's a mistake for me.

For then what happens is I'm like, okay, I'll wait for it to be done.

And then I never watch it.

Oh, of course, yeah.

So if you weren't talking about it, I could see myself not watching impeachment, but I do want to watch it because, again, we were two and four years old.

So I have to do it.

We don't know anything.

We don't know anything.

It's really good.

Like, you know, Ryan Murphy is just great.

Yeah.

And you watched Younger.

I did watch Younger.

Do you want to save it for the end or you want to talk about it?

No, because you mean

you could choose.

You could watch it scripted in the beginning, unscripted at the end.

Okay.

I watched Younger because I always used to watch.

And then I remember I started the second to last season a year ago and it was far too dumb.

And I was like, I can't watch this.

And I guess, you know, the bar is lower because I enjoyed it immensely.

Things have changed.

Things have changed.

And Melanie Paris has come out.

No, like the bar has just been lowered.

And it was enjoyable it's a cute show like and there are some really funny moments like there were some times i was laughing out loud and i love like debbie mazar and lauren's character and diana trout even though she's not in the last season like the fuck was that they bumped up lauren yes and they gave her all of diana's scenes but still so it made it okay but still like justice for diana trout did she get a better job like i don't maybe she just like couldn't work because of covid like it was a very covid oh yeah zane broke up with her over face time never to be heard from again like i was just like okay covid And also, it was sad to watch this last season because, like, the world, they didn't, you know, address COVID at all.

The world that they're living in, the New York that they're living in doesn't exist.

Like, these fabulous people going into offices, just like having lunch, you know, jumping on the subway to get here.

Oh, let me come see your gallery in the middle.

Like, nobody does that shit anymore.

Like, it's just an unfabulous city.

And so, it was a little bittersweet to be watching it because it was like, damn, those were the days.

And I enjoyed it.

Like, still, some of the shit that they do on that show, like, Kelsey should have been fired 20 times over.

Same for Liz.

Like, when Kelsey sent her spoiler alert tits to her Instagram story, like, when they just got funding from an investment group in Chicago, who she all told them to follow her on social media, like,

I'm sorry.

Yeah, fired.

Fired.

She didn't even get fired, though.

She just got demoted.

And so she was like, I've lost everything.

And it's like, no, you shouldn't.

You actually still, no, like you still have your job.

Like, that's way more than most people got.

I guess it's like Jeffrey Toobin, like, just got suspended for showing his wiener, but the thing is is like with that show is the

The you like

sorry, I'm literally like having a brain fart.

Oh my god.

I didn't even know what I was gonna say.

Oh my god.

Yeah,

so I just really felt like she was just It's so crazy.

It was crazy to me that she's an publisher to begin with.

Like of course like it's just so stupid.

Okay, that's what I was gonna say.

Like you can only like go along with something something being so stupid for so long until it becomes glaringly obvious, like, how unrealistic a certain setting is.

So, so unrealistic.

Like, I just, there were so many things that were just like bothering me, but on the whole, it's, and also, like, now that I'm a reader, actually, the last time I watched Younger, I wasn't, it was pre-reading, pre-Kindle.

So, now that I'm a reader, I'm like, immensely interested in, like, the publishing aspect.

And it's like, all they would publish is like,

if this famous person's writing a book, like, what about all the other books that aren't like celebrity memoirs?

you know what i mean like i only ever took meetings with like already famous famous people well that was the point of the incubator yeah no and that's and i appreciated the incubator and i thought that was a really good idea and it was like patreon and like then i'm like okay this show hits it on the head right like they get the current digital climate yes so that like so things like that are redeeming the episode with fupa the um she was like fake greta tuneberg oh my god that was so fucking funny it was so funny So like there were so many moments where I was genuinely laughing out loud and then there was others just that are just so cringe.

Yeah.

And the fact that in the end, spoiler alert,

Liza ends up with Josh.

I mean, I'm a Chaiza stan type of thing.

Obviously.

And

they were so close.

And I just, I disagree.

My God, she was pissing me off so fucking much at the end.

Like, after all Charles did for you, like, all he wanted to do was get married.

Like, he's not asking you for the craziest thing.

Like, just fucking marry the man.

Yeah.

No, it's, it was really infuriating.

I'm, I'm sorry to say.

Like, that was really infuriating.

It's like ending up with Aiden.

And the fact that Debbie and these are Maggie, I can never remember her character.

I'm just like Debbie.

The fact that she, like, ends up with the woman who canceled her.

Um, Heather Mooney?

From real house.

From Romeo and Michelle?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, my God.

She invented the quick burning paper?

I didn't even realize that, but, like,

that she's falling in love with the woman who canceled her.

I'm just it was so thrown together at the end.

Like, yeah, I, I, it was not thoughtful in any way, no, but it was still it was good.

And for like a COVID ending, I feel like we got everything.

I didn't feel like we missed out on anything other than like Zane and Kelsey.

Yeah, and like

the fact,

the fact that Kelsey was living in a two-bedroom apartment with three people total and a baby while she was publisher

of Empirical Press.

Um, no, yeah, no, yeah, no, no, no.

And then when she finally is like, you know what, I'm gonna move out, I've been saving up, and she still won't just like move into a fucking rental.

There's a million in the city, she has to like move into this building that this guy she's been dating for two weeks owns.

Like, that's the worst idea I've ever heard.

Like, you have terrible judgment.

I mean, I literally watched this show so long ago, like, I don't even remember everything you're talking about.

No, so she, like, remember, she starts dating Claire's ex because he's a real estate developer.

So, when she needs to leave the apartment because Claire got mad at her for dating her ex, she moves into the model apartment in his building.

It's like, get your own fucking apartment.

You were a publisher.

That's like being fucking Anawintour and living with three women.

Yeah, totally.

Higher than that, because she's not even head of Condé Nast.

Totally.

I'm so like, I'm sorry.

So

that's how I feel.

So like it's over and

it was a good show.

I know.

And you know what?

I spent all day Saturday and Friday night watching it and it was like exactly what I needed.

It was always like a fun, stupid light show.

Yeah, it was just what the doctor ordered.

So that was fun.

Then I finished the book I was reading, Party Crasher by Sophie Kinsella.

You know, she's my favorite author.

It was my least favorite Sophie Kinsella book.

There has to be one.

Just the protagonist was just like, not my kind of girl.

Okay.

She was not like other girls, but not in the same way as us.

Oh.

Yeah.

Yeek.

And then I started a new book yesterday called This Tender Land by William Kent Krueger.

It's like a very, it's a novel, you know, Dana.

It's a Dana's choice recommendation.

She said it was like the best book ever.

So, and so many Redheads did too.

So I'm like 40% of the way.

And it is really good, but it's, it's a lot.

So that's been nice.

It was a good content week and for me, considering I feel like I've had a few failed, like honestly, like a failed month of

Outlander.

And I'm not going back to Outlander, you guys, because I took a little break and then I realized I didn't miss it and I didn't miss the way that it made me feel.

Yeah.

And I was planning on starting Made this weekend, but from what I'm hearing, it's like so emotionally triggering.

Like I actually don't, I'm in a good headspace.

Like I don't really want to bring myself to that level.

Wait, okay, I watched Maid, and I finished it, and it was a lot.

And as I said, it was very intense.

It's a lot to sit with.

I preferred to watch it when the sun was out because it was just too much when the sun went down.

I enjoyed it immensely.

I thought it was, it's a true story, which always, I think, makes it a better story.

And

I would recommend it.

It was productive viewing.

Margaret Qualey, such a star.

And that way, if you watch it, I wouldn't have to always be like convincing you of her star star power.

Yeah.

And she stars in it with Andy McDougal, who is her mom.

They play mother and daughter.

McDowell.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They play mother and daughter in the show, and they're mother and daughter in real life, and they're both fantastic actresses, so that was just like an acting nugget of cuteness.

I love having little nuggets, like things that you know.

Yeah.

I just don't think I can do it.

Like, I'm finally in like a positive headspace.

It's fall.

Like, why would I do that?

Okay, so you could wait, but it was, it's really, really good, really well done, and I would recommend it but just like I was watching like two episodes a day.

It's not something like that's

binge because the episodes are like fucking movies.

They're an hour impeachment.

They're all like an hour.

It's crazy.

They're making like movies.

No, I felt the same way about Downtown Abbey since like every scene was like filled with so much dialogue and sets and outfits.

I'm like, this is an hour, like sometimes an hour, 15, hour, 30 minute episode.

I'm like, you're just making movies.

Yeah, no, for Maida, I was like, I've watched 10 movies.

Right.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Okay.

And that's the content.

The scripted content.

The scripted.

Stay tuned for the unscripted coming at you soon.

Don't get it twisted.

I mean, Kravis is engaged.

Like, we just have to get to it.

We have to get to it.

Go ahead.

Without further ado.

Oh, my God.

Go ahead, me.

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First story, so exciting.

Travis engaged.

Courtney Kardashian and Travis Barker are engaged.

They got engaged last night in Montecito, California, where Travis popped the question at the Rosewood Maramar Beach Hotel surrounded by an elaborate display of red roses and white candles, followed by what seemed to be like a little parte with the family.

Okay.

So

I don't really know where we should start here.

I think let's start, first of all, okay, they've been together since the beginning of the year, like not that long, but it does feel like this like kismet, astrological, like soulmate thing.

So I don't feel like it's too soon.

I really don't.

Like I feel like they've known each other forever.

He's been on the Kardashians like a couple times in the last like 10 years.

I think that the timing is fine.

I think the timing is fine.

They've been dating about nine months.

And I think, you know, if this were my friend, I would say maybe that's fast.

But like for Courtney is so not a hasty person.

Like she was dating Scott for 20 years and still wasn't ready.

Like I think she knows herself well enough to know when she's ready and that she's ready.

I agree.

So even though I was, when I first saw they were engaged, I was like, how long has it been a year?

But I have complete and other utter faith in these two and their relationship like it's yes it's very filled with lust but they also have a blended family and they're it's so much deeper than just like the Instagram pics that they post that's true and so I believe I think this is so beautiful and I think the fact that like Courtney is so down and and for this when like we just assume she wasn't like a marriage girl forever but no it's just she was a Travis girl right and you know what's so weird because there's been so many Kardashian relationships and weddings.

Courtney's never been married.

Like, when you think of, like, Hollywood and you think someone getting married, it seems like, oh, yeah, whatever.

Like, this is Travis' third marriage.

Like, but for Courtney, like, she's never done it.

So, like, it seems so real.

But yeah, that's how you, like, you know, even more so that it's real and that you can just, you...

you can go with Courtney on this one.

So then the second element worth discussing is the Scott of it all, because Scott was very much wanting to marry Courtney, as we saw many times on the show.

And she very firmly said, like, I don't want to get married.

Maybe I don't want to get married to you, or I don't want to get married, period.

But everyone is now like, Where's Scott?

Yeah, I mean, and also because I just, for a number of reasons, one, a year ago, she was saying to him, like, you need to do these things.

And if you don't, like, if you do them, we can be together.

And he didn't do them.

So, like, I can't feel that bad for him.

I need to know what those things are before I die.

Like, I absolutely need to do that.

100%.

100%.

Two, like, knowing that him and Sophia didn't work out because he was always, you know, had one foot at Courtney's house.

And now Sophia's in like a really serious relationship.

She like moved in with her boyfriend.

They bought a house together.

And it's like, where does this leave Scott?

And he doesn't even have an Amelia to ring up in this time of need.

Well, you know what?

Like, maybe this could be a moment for him to be like, maybe I should stop dating children.

Maybe that's why it hasn't worked out.

Yeah.

So, of course, like, and I do like Scott, so, you know, I hope he's okay.

And I think he's fine because he was at SNL last week.

I'm sure someone gave him the heads up that this was happening.

Well, so, yes, that's the third thing I wanted to talk about.

Do you feel like this is so kind of out of character for Courtney?

Like,

such a public moment, first of all, like on a public beach.

Like, people, it got blown up on social media before they even got to post about it.

So public, so big, so grand.

And then, like, filming for the show, filming the dinner, I felt like it was kind of out of character for Courtney, who, you know, her boundaries.

Yes, but I just feel like when you're, like, Courtney, I believe, is so happy.

Like,

circle is complete for her.

She's feeling amazing.

So, like, sometimes your walls come down a little bit.

And maybe in those times when she had them up so high, it was because like she was wanting to keep people out.

She had stuff that she didn't want to share.

It's very personal.

But like, in her joy, I think she's just like, sure, sure.

It's just different.

And I think even though this like seems so big for us, you know, it's not Kanye proposing at the

stadium.

But even though at the stadium, that was still more private.

Yeah, but no, but it's just like a beautiful beachside at their favorite hotel proposal on like the day they got back from New York.

So she probably wasn't expecting it.

Like she might have been in her airplane clothes.

And I think it was just natural, which she is a natural girly.

So I saw a lot of people online saying this, and I agree with that more than your gorgeous theory,

that they might have been engaged in like had a private, real moment.

And then with this new show that I'm sure is paying them much more, Courtney has to participate.

Then they decided to kind of give a moment for the show, but their initial engagement was probably like a more personal, private moment.

Okay.

That's what I think.

Okay.

I mean, even still, if it was like a different Courtney, she wouldn't give it to the show.

She, and she, and she might have even been like, I think family might have even been like, okay, you know, you're,

we're not going to film your proposal.

Like, that's fine.

We'll talk about your engagement tomorrow.

Well, I actually think that with this new Hulu deal, I do think the dynamic probably has shifted quite a bit because with the e-show, it was like this burden where they weren't making that much money from it.

So like no one wanted to go out of their way to do it.

With this brand new Hulu deal, i'm sure they're making

10 times more what they were making that would mean that they're making a billion dollars for 10 seasons is it 10 is it a 10 season deal no that's what i'm saying the original deal was 10 seasons so i'm sure what they probably made sign on for one maybe two i think that what they're getting paid per episode is probably literally 10 times more what they were getting paid on eight so everyone kind of got their shit together especially courtney if you like if you want to accept that deal we're going to split the money with you like you got to work right but then when you think about it that way to me that seems like the antithesis of Courtney, like selling, like, thinking about her relationship in terms of like the what the show is paying her.

I think they're just two separation changes.

Yeah, no, like, you gotta work.

So, like, she's selling her relationship to the show.

No, because that's why I'm saying she had a private one first.

Because they're paying more.

If she had a private one first, and then this, like, kind of out-of-character, very public thing was, like, for the show.

I don't know.

I

think it's just, you know, they're in love and they're not looking around.

Like, and it is what it is.

And it's beneficial for everyone that it's filmed.

And because she's happy, like, she's letting us into her life.

I think

I believe my theory.

Well, it's not my theory.

I saw it on the internet, but I think that there was probably, because when I saw it, I'm like, there's no way.

Because it's like, it's so public.

But I guess the relationship also has been so public this far.

Like so much PDA.

Like they really have been like.

Just very public.

Doing their thing.

And the thought of them like faking a second proposal is so not Courtney to me.

Well, honestly, if that's the case, it makes me love Kravis.

Like, yes, you know that the show is important.

You're prioritizing your work.

Maybe Courtney can, you maybe Courtney will learn from that, you know?

So I, I don't know, I kind of hope because I'd just like, yes, Kravis, like, be a stage mom.

Let's go.

Yeah, Kravis.

Travis, sorry.

Okay, I'm like, the both of them?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, no, I think it's all so beautiful.

The ring is so stunning.

And that's like another thing.

I could have seen Courtney with just like a black

heart.

Yeah, totally.

Like a tattoo ring.

Right, but like she's just just going full fairy tale.

And this is what she's been waiting for.

So it kind of tracks, like just, it just was never right before, you know?

But now we're seeing a whole new woman, a woman in love, really.

No, she has had the most twisted dating history.

Like,

didn't she, like, date Justin Bieber for a minute?

Like, she

has finally landed where she was meant to land.

And you just love to see it.

Yeah.

So this is very exciting.

Of course, can't wait for the show to come out.

It's going to be like a year or so.

I know.

Oh, but Kim did say, I forget what show she was on.

She gave very little insight, but she did say, like, they're going to have a much faster turnaround time on this show.

Like, how we're always complaining, how we're watching things on the Kardashians that happened a year ago.

Like, we're on to a new scandal.

Like, that's so true.

And also, like, when you think about the D'Amelio show, which is also on Hulu, it was like just a few months in between.

Right.

So that's really exciting.

That is very exciting.

It could never.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well.

Mazzletove.

Mazleto to Kravis.

I look forward, like, Courtney as a bride.

She'll definitely wear a black wedding dress.

Like the fact that she was wearing like full black black to like her engagement is iconic.

She didn't even take her sunglasses off.

Good.

No, but like look, that's a little extra.

You gotta do what you gotta do.

I can't wait to see the photographer pictures.

Yeah.

Anyways, I really liked how they did it.

They just got engaged like normal people and it's beautiful.

Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox are like quaking because like they're like, well, we have to be the better emote couple.

Like they're gonna get engaged in like a month.

You think so?

Totally.

Shanna Moechler, like posted something on her stories, like

that she needed a break or something.

Like,

sad because you know, all of her kids are now like posting, like, Courtney Lilani, like that sucks.

Oh, okay.

I thought for a second, Shanna Moechler was

Jackie.

Me too, I get them so confused.

That's really confusing, yeah, because it's like the same thing with Megan and Brian Austin Green.

Okay, I just can't.

So, she posted-my brain can only retain so much.

All the kids, Landon and Alabama, Travis's and shh

Shauna.

Sharna?

No.

Shana.

Shanna.

Mokla.

Shanna Mokler.

Their kids were there, like with the Kardashians posting, like, where's Donald Miami?

Like, if I was Shanna Mokler, like, I would need a break, too.

Yeah, that's really just like the worst case scenario.

You know, your ex is marrying the most famous woman in the most famous family.

Your kids love her, love their kids.

They're going to like move in together.

Blended.

Blended now.

Are you glad that you watch?

Courtney, you know, she was always starting those really cute movie nights in her backyard.

Like, she needs to have a family screening of blended.

I know, but it already seems like they are blended.

They could star in the sequel.

Wow.

Okay.

It pains me, but we have to move on to our next story, which is some,

the opposite of happy couple news.

Lala and Ram.

But it's bad couple speculation, okay?

Okay.

Lala Ken removed.

I love when you go into denial mode, like for your favorite couples.

No, but I'll tell you why I'm holding out.

I'll tell you why.

Lala Ken removes Randall Emmett from Instagram, sparks breakup rumors.

Lala Ken has fans wondering whether she and Beyoncé Randall have split after she either deleted or archived all the photos she had of him from her Instagram.

The Vanderpump Rollstar also posted a video to her Instagram story of two male friends walking through a hotel, one rolling a suitcase and the other pushing her baby ocean, set to the extremely telling song Sorry by Beyoncé.

So

also there are some rumors floating that like Randall was spotted with some ladies.

In a hotel, in an elevator on multiple occasions

so

are lala and randall separated the only thing i want to say is in the past lala has deleted all pictures of randall from her instagram she's done it once maybe even twice like where it's like are they broken up what happened and she says like it's not has nothing to do with their actual relationship she just sort of gets like

spooked about just like having it all over social media.

So I just

going on here So I don't really see what's a lot of other the literal photos of Randall like walking through the the lobby of a hotel?

Yeah, walking through the lobby of a hotel with like two blonde girls, and the video of her of Lala checking into a hotel.

Like, there's more here.

Okay, well, she's at like the Beverly Hills Hotel, so maybe she has a photo shoot.

Just gonna set that one aside.

You saw photos of Randall of him walking through a hotel lobby.

Was he holding hands?

No, but he got into an elevator with the girl.

With one girl?

Yeah.

And then I think in the other one, there was two girls.

And you don't know that they were just strangers passing in the night.

They weren't.

They weren't wearing masks, so like they were in the elevator together.

So?

If they're vaccinated.

No, but like, if you're in the elevator with strangers, like, that's when you put your masks on.

Maybe not for them.

Maybe in New York.

Deny all you want, but there's something going on.

I think there's just a path here to where, you know, there's not much going on.

I don't think they're going to break up, but I do think there's something going on.

They can't break up.

What about Ocean?

I know, but like, why can't Randall just keep it in his pants?

But we don't know that he didn't.

I'm choosing to break it.

We'll take the pictures.

Where'd you see?

Oh, my God.

Okay.

I just need to see for myself.

Okay.

I mean, it's going to take me a minute.

Hang on.

Okay.

This is just not the news you want to hear this morning.

Especially as the show's airing, because then it's like we can't even enjoy the show knowing what's coming.

I think it was on Reddit.

Oh, it's okay.

If you can't find it, I'll find them later.

I can send them to you later.

But I didn't see them like floating around crazy.

You can pick on me later.

Okay.

I mean, this is obviously sad because they're a couple we stand, but I just don't think it's beneficial for anyone for us to just be in denial.

Yeah, okay.

This is what she said the last time she deleted all the pictures of him.

This makes more sense than what I said.

In a moment of feeling protective, angry, and impulsive, I deleted every photo of him, including the moment we got engaged.

I felt like what people were saying was so unfair, and I'm the one that put him out there like that.

Okay, okay,

this could be applied to this situation too.

People People are saying unfair things about him, and she's the one who put him out there like that.

People are saying unfair things about him because she deleted the pictures, so this was the catalyst.

So, make it make sense.

People are saying unfair things about him because of the pictures that were seen in Nashville.

And so, maybe it's just like, I don't know.

Honestly, I feel like the pictures of her, I don't know if it was Nashville, don't quote me on that.

I think the pictures of him in the lobby, like I only saw them after she deleted all the pictures because she made this whole kerfuffle.

Damn, okay, I'm losing.

I mean, obviously, I don't want it to be true either.

Yeah.

But, like, let's live in reality for a moment.

Yeah.

I just can't fathom it being true right now.

You know, they're just a child.

And they just had a child.

Rock solid.

They're so strong on the show.

I read her book.

Like, they're so simpatico.

Erotico.

And so it's just hard to swallow.

I'm going to hold out hope, you know, me, because I don't give up on my ships that easily.

You don't.

I will not let this ship go down without a fight.

This is literally you.

I will go down with this ship.

That is me.

I won't put my hands up and surrender.

There will be no white flag above my bones.

I'm in love

and always

will be.

That is literally you.

That is literally me.

And for the ships that I, there's a, I don't do it for every ship.

But for this one, I will go down with the ship, and I also realize that my argument is losing steam.

I do realize that.

Okay.

No, I mean, the ship is thinking faster and faster.

We've hit a nice.

We've hit a nice thing.

Now we've like switched spots.

Like, let's just wait and see what happens.

You see how, you know,

nothing is definitive.

But I'll tell you what happened.

Well, something happened.

I was the one who first said when Courtney and Travis got together that they were probably just business partners.

Like, maybe I don't have a good read on these things.

You think everyone's going into business together?

Except, wait,

the weekend and Angelina Jolie,

it came out that he's now like a UN,

like working with the UN or something, which is like so Angelina.

Wait, it's very possible they were in business together

and that they weren't dating.

That's amazing.

That's one point for me.

But still, I lost on Kravis.

Irina and Kanye are in business together.

J-Lo and Ben Affleck are in business together.

Honestly, Jerry's still out there.

Oh, totally.

No, no, no.

But I really thought they were like working on a male skincare line

called

him.

Right.

So, you know, maybe you don't, maybe you don't follow me on this one, but

I have to be able to sleep at night.

Of course, of course, of course.

I totally should.

I just am going to.

You know what?

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100%.

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I cultivated a vibe last night, by the way.

I saw that you did.

It was honestly like no time had passed.

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How is the chili?

So good.

And I ate it.

Ben.

Okay.

And I have leftover.

And I put a picture of my chili like up on my story.

And I put like a weird filter on it so I can make my house look moody.

And Emerym's like, ew, your chili looks gross.

And I'm like, shut the fuck up, bitch.

First of all, it's delicious.

And second of all, get the fuck out of here.

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And you know what?

Chili is an unphotogenic meal.

Sorry.

And you know what?

The worse it looks, probably the better it tastes.

So don't pay the haters any money.

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I'm glad you enjoyed.

Ben's home and I'm like panicking.

He's going to eat the leftover chili before I can get home to it.

Like,

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Okay, that would explain why you didn't bring me any.

I actually cooked a little something last night.

I made my own Caesar dressing, salad dressing without eggs because you know, most Caesar dressings have raw eggs, so you can't have it when you're pregnant.

Oh, no, I didn't know that.

But I had ordered Hillstone, and they have an eggless Caesar dressing, so I put it in the fridge because I was like, This is a good dressing, I'll make a salad.

Dressing disappears,

yeah, yeah.

But I already had it in my head that I was gonna make a salad.

Who the fuck?

Blame Brew, for sure.

So I wound up making my own dressing, which I just feel like is is such a mom thing.

It's such like a level, like a level up in life.

You know, it's like you get older, you settle down.

You make your own dressing.

You make your own dressing.

And it was really good.

So now I have some in the fridge, and I'll be using my own dressing.

Exciting.

Yeah, so that's a fun fact about me.

Okay, this next story, speaking about jumping to conclusions, because this really bothered me.

Olivia J.

Giungnuli is slamming a rumor that she's hooking up with Dancing with the Stars partner.

Partner.

I I was going to say pal, because his name is Val, Cherm's copy.

Pal Val.

Pal, her pal, Val.

So not here for the drama, Olivia Jade clapbacked after her TikTok user.

You know what?

Can I explain the story?

Like, I literally saw the whole thing happen in real time.

Okay, please explain.

There's this girl on TikTok who gets like anonymous, not anonymous.

Well, she gets people's experiences.

Like, I met Jackie Ashley at Starbucks and she slapped me in the face.

Yeah.

But she then goes on TikTok.

And it's funny, I don't go to Starbucks.

Right.

And you're more of a punger than a slapper.

So, and then what she'll do on TikTok is reenact them, like in little skits.

Okay.

So it's like fun and it's like

she doesn't really try to like hide the she never says like Olivia Jade, but she'll be like, girl who pretended to row.

Like she's very obvious in who she's talking about.

And in the comments, she'll like the comments of people who guess right.

So it's, she's not trying to, you know, be really anonymous at all.

Okay.

And honestly, they come up on my Free You page sometimes and it's like

kind of long-winded.

And I'm like, I can't get to the end of the story.

Like it's the longest skit ever.

So, then I saw the Olivia Jade one, and I knew immediately who she was talking about.

One, because she didn't make it difficult to guess, and two, like, people have been saying, Oh, I heard, you know, Olivia and Val are fucking like, so and also, like, he said, she said, like, his wife isn't allowed to go to his trailer, right?

And he's the only one whose wife is like working on the show right now.

There might be one more, but, like, yeah, it wasn't hard to guess.

Right.

Okay.

So, I mean, it was just like silly rumor, but like, everyone was quaking.

And this particular girl's video blew up.

And

she blocked Olivia Jade.

Right.

So, Olivia Jade like went to like duet it and be like, This is just not true.

She couldn't even duet it.

So, she had to like put a green screen up.

It was like a whole, it made the editing process for Olivia Jade probably quite treacherous.

Yes, but she just suggested straight on and said, I'm going to be super blunt and straight up and say, Val and I are not hooking up.

We've never hooked up.

This is a complete rumor.

We are genuinely good friends, and I adore his wife.

And I completely believe her.

When I saw that video, I was like, There's no way.

And it's just like, it really bothers me that people just go around like saying these things and like blind items, whatever.

And it's true unless like someone has to outright deny.

But then even still, like it's floating around there.

Like to me, that video, I didn't know that was the premise of this girl's account.

I thought that girl, the way she made it seem, I guess she was reading from the submitter's perspective, but she made it seem like she works on the set of Dancing with the Stars.

She reads people's.

And I'm sorry.

It's just one of the loseriest things.

I've ever encountered.

Yeah.

No, I mean, I love that Olivia J's outright was like, like, absolutely not.

This is not a thing.

Cause I'm, I think a lot of people were thinking it.

Like, they're very, but that's all the people at Tancy May the Stars.

You like literally grope your partner when the thing's over and you're right.

You're like, you're waiting for the results and you're grabbing each other's tits.

Like, it's fucking you.

They're like grinding up on each other and they're like, they're looking close.

Yeah.

Cause they're fucking grinding.

So I think that everyone thinks that, especially Olivia Jade's like this gorgeous girl.

Like, I think that it's a natural thing to think, but to put it out there like it's fact, when actually it's not, I agree.

Like this age we're living in where people just kind of post things on social media with absolutely not even one morsel of research.

Like, how do you know that this girl even works in Fancy with a Star?

Like,

I do not like that.

And sometimes the stuff turns out to be true, for sure, but sometimes it's just like a flat-out lie.

Yeah, that just reminds me of like the Kanye thing with

the TikToker in the hotel.

Cole something.

I don't remember who it was, but it was just lies.

Yeah, no, he said he made the whole thing up.

There's nothing loserier.

Yeah, I agree.

I hate that.

Okay, ready for our next story?

Oprah Winfey will be interviewing Adele in a one-night-only concert special.

So we're getting more tea about this.

So not Buckingham Palace.

Well, not Buckingham Palace, but it's,

you know,

I do feel like it might be a conflict of interest.

And I saw some

Oprah should just go around interviewing everyone.

I saw someone say that, like, Adele's been living in that life for COVID and she can't go back to the UK because of COVID, so there's no way she filmed at Buckingham Palace.

I saw someone say that too, but you can travel to the UK.

Yeah.

So she could have have done it.

And if like, I'm seeing people on Instagram do it, Adele can do it.

You know, I'm literally going to Rome this week.

Right, so Adele can do it.

Okay.

Oprah Winfrey is set to interview Adele as part of a two-hour special welcoming back the Grammy winner from her years-long break.

The special will feature an exclusive interview with Adele by Oprah from her Rose Garden.

Oh, I guess that's.

Oprah's Garden?

Yeah.

Or whatever.

It's a garden.

But is there a performance in the garden as well?

Well, maybe it's Performance Garden, Performance Garden.

Buckingham Garden, Buckingham Garden.

Is it the same garden where megan and harry were interviewed no because that was confirmed as not to be megan and harry's house nor oprah's house could you imagine if it was going from buckingham oh yeah garden i think that's the bridge that we need adele Adele is the bridge.

In Adele's first televised wide-ranging conversation about her new album, the stories behind the songs, life after divorce, weight loss, and raising her son, Adele One Night Only will also feature an extraordinary concert performance that includes the earliest opportunity to hear her new material in six years.

The special is being produced by James Corden and Ben Winston's Fulwell 73 and Onward Productions in association with Winfrey's Harpo Productions.

I read a funny tweet once that was

who

body did James Corden help and Hollywood executive Barry to get as far as he like he's funny for sure and definitely not everyone likes him but like his shtick is cute or whatever carpal karaoke

who what is where what did he do How did he get here?

I don't know.

He must be, I mean, aside, he either buried a body or he's just like the best guy ever.

Every person loves him.

Because Adele also like has gone on vacation with him.

Like I think people just like love being around her.

Jerry Styles loves him.

And they love burying bodies with him.

Yes.

Him and like it's so confusing.

Yeah.

Like Adele Harpo.

James Gordon?

Yeah.

No, it's it is pretty wild.

But there was a time, like now I think my biggest gripe with James Gordon is that he's just everywhere, you know?

And and then he doesn't

but before he was everywhere, like I really did, I really thought he was a talented guy.

So I think everybody had that thought and we're like, we should give him everything.

And now he's everywhere.

We hate him.

No, and the thing is, is like, I wish he would just be more selective with where he goes because so much of what he

chooses to do is like flop central cats.

Mm-hmm.

Cinderella.

Cinderella.

I feel like I can name a thousand things where he's just floppy-o.

So if you're not.

Don't bring her into this.

If you're going to be everywhere, like you have to be great.

And he's just unfortunately not.

Not always, but he has been

in the past.

Yeah.

When he was just the James Corden guy, like I was loving him.

Yeah.

Carpool karaoke that used to be everything.

Now you couldn't fucking pay me.

No, literally.

It's so crazy.

You used to like wait for the new one.

The Apple TV show they have of it.

And then

they'll put like Fifth Harmony in with a Jonas Brother.

Like it's just.

Too much of a good thing.

Yeah.

You know?

It's a good lesson.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

What was the story we just said?

Adele Oprah.

Oh, yeah.

I feel like we didn't really kind of massage it enough, but I'm excited.

I'm excited.

I think Oprah will be doing the massaging and we'll be doing the listening.

Yeah, it's going to be gorgeous.

Do you know if it's happening after or before the album release?

It sounds like before because it will be songs that we hadn't heard before.

It'll be the earliest opportunity to hear the first new material.

I kind of would have preferred it to be after just so I can like learn a few songs.

Yeah.

You could watch it at your own pace.

How much, how many times did you listen to Easy on Me this weekend?

Not that many times because I wasn't like listening to music.

I was watching younger, but I had it in my head all weekend.

But I also have found some really good Spotify playlists.

I guess it's like of like songs from, you know, Gen Z and stuff that are really, really good.

So I've just been enjoying.

James Arthur.

Yeah.

Do you know him?

Yeah.

So he was on the playlist, like Mimi Webb.

It was just like, it was called like Everyday Essentials, and it was just some good music.

And it's been a really long time since I just discovered new songs and artists.

So I was just like enjoying their curation.

Well, honestly, I know you're so against TikTok, but that's literally how I find out all my new music.

No, I know.

You know who's really like coming up as like one of the best Gen Z artists of our time?

You're going to be shocked.

Willow Smith.

And that sounds that shocking.

I mean, like, her music, Transparent Soul and Meet Me and Our Spot, blew up on TikTok, and it's like

so good.

Okay, I'll add it to my playlist.

Yeah, Meet Me at Our Spot.

Well, that's actually the perfect segue for our fifth and final story, which is about TikTok music.

Okay.

But

before

we've got to let you know that hold on, what are we going to do?

Are we going full blast?

Full blast.

The people wait in and they let us know, and

the negative reviews were overruled.

It's the final story.

Do

Where's the body?

Okay, our fifth and final story.

The Beatles have an official TikTok now, and you can use their music.

Oh my god.

And an apparent bid to infect Gen Z with Beatle Mania, the Fab Four have officially arrived on TikTok.

Their handle, at the Beatles, the iconic rock group's account, has amassed over 180,000 followers since its creation Friday as a promo for the Disney Plus documentary Get Back, as well as the Beatles' new remixed Let It Be album variety reported.

So

not only will they be on TikTok, but their most iconic tunes are now available for use on TikTok.

And I know all the TikTokers are dying to see.

I have been waiting for this moment.

And I'm really happy for them.

Hey, Jude.

Don't make it bad.

Okay, like, honestly, I don't really feel like the Beatles should be on TikTok.

Like, that's just me.

I'm not, like, gatekeeping TikTok.

I think if they wanted to upload their music, you know, organically.

Organically, so people could use the

music in different sounds and videos for sure.

But I just think there's something inherently losery about like trying to promote your documentary on TikTok when you're literally like the greatest band of the 80s or whatever.

Yeah, no, I agree.

I think you know, the Beatles, I forget who owns their catalog now, but it's a very like

business thing, you know.

Yeah, I think it's partially owned by the Michael Jackson estate.

Yes, and I maybe even Elton John, perhaps.

I was, I was just talking about that the other day, but like, so they're very choosy, you know, they do partnerships, yeah.

Like if you use their song at a commercial, like their whole catalog is like a business enterprise.

Michael Jackson purchased the publishing rights to the vast majority of the Beatles catalog for $47 million,

outbidding Paul McCartney himself.

Wow.

That's crazy.

That is crazy.

Okay, so yeah, exactly.

Like this is a whole business, Beatles enterprise.

This article says he only has it until 2026.

And then what happens?

Which is when Paul McCartney can regain the copyrights to all of his songs.

That's so weird.

So he just loses the money he spent?

Or he's made it back and

forth.

Well, maybe with this move too now.

Maybe they're getting desperate.

This is a desperate move.

A hundred percent.

Desperate losery move.

Especially like either let your songs be like free.

Let it be.

Let it be free to use on digital platforms.

Like it doesn't have to be a big special announcement.

Or like, you know, protect the history of the songs.

And also just in print.

You have to protect the integrity of the Beatles.

Yeah.

Honestly, them being on TikTok, them doing a Disney Plus special, I don't know what it's about, gorgeous.

Like that is so premium.

Like

we are in keeping the integrity of the Beatles intact.

But I don't know, pouring them out on TikTok, like,

I don't know.

I don't, it just is not what I would do.

Yeah, no, definitely not.

So, anyways, when you're talking about looking at

the Hey Jude challenge, or maybe the Eleanor Rigby challenge, I don't know.

Okay, wow, that was

intense.

Everything kind of took an emotional toll on me.

I know there were highs, there were lows.

See, aren't you glad we don't have to recap our scripted shows now?

Yeah, I'm so thankful.

Thank you, Claudia.

You're welcome.

Okay, so let's do our unscripted TV recap where we're going to talk about the real housewise of Potomac and the Salt Lake City house-wise that were on last night.

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All right, let's start with Potomac first.

Last night's episode was very good.

I have to say, I feel like the landscape around me is just changing because, like, I'm feeling like confused.

Like, honestly, if I was Robin and Giselle, I 100% would have left too.

I had actually a lot of sympathy for Robin.

Like, being on my period with all these other women and their husbands.

My husband's not here.

I'm sharing a room with my friend.

I don't have a bathroom.

Absolutely not.

Also, Giselle does have a broken toe.

I do think, like, I know Wendy doesn't like them.

She should have been slightly more gracious.

No, Wendy is so overplaying her hand.

power trip.

She's overplayed, and she's actually making Robin and Giselle look like sympathetic characters.

And so, yes, I have totally shifted in that regard.

I still see Robin and Giselle, and I'm not like giving them a pass for everything.

But in that situation, they were completely right.

I would have done the exact same thing.

It is inappropriate to be walking around the house, like going from the shower.

And also, that bathroom downstairs is the like communal bathroom for when they're all hanging downstairs.

So like it's disgusting.

And that's going to be their personal bathroom.

And Wendy, that doesn't make you look like cool, like you didn't take care of them.

It makes you look like a bad hostess with poor planning skills.

Yeah, no, Wendy was not looking her best this episode.

She looked like in every, in every situation, she's just like so stubborn.

So even in the rooms, the hosting situation, like she thinks she's a good host.

On the boat, like she can't even have a conversation with anyone.

And like, you see the way me and Candace are actually like communicating and finding resolution.

And I feel like their argument was so much deeper than whatever Wendy and Robin's issue is.

And Wendy just like can't see past herself.

She's really making herself like I'm so team monique.

So like if Wendy like is here or there, that doesn't affect like where I stand with the show.

But like for a moment, she was

not the hero that we deserve, but the hero that we got.

Yeah.

And now all of that good work is just being flipped on its head.

I completely agree.

She's like so butt hurt that Robin and Giselle are just like commenting on the way that she looks being different.

And by the way, not that I agree with them saying that, but like your reaction is so out of hand now.

Like, no, like, move on.

Like, that was literally six weeks ago.

Move on.

The way that, like, Karen handles Robin and Giselle is just like the right way.

And so, to see, like, Wendy, she's so bothered by them.

And it's like, it makes her just look bitter.

Bitter and wrong.

And in the situation, like, I would 100%,

if I hadn't left the trip completely, I would 100% have gotten a hotel.

These are

grown women to be sleeping in a twin bed with your friend on your period.

On her period with no bathroom and having to use a downstairs bathroom in a house where there's people's husbands is wrong.

No, and this house is very bizarre because when they pull up, it's so big, but like there's literally one like communal living space and like one floor of bedrooms.

Like it's really not that big.

Yeah, I wonder if production stays there and they only have so many rooms to use.

But it's just Wendy is completely wrong in this situation and Robin Giselle came off looking great.

Sympathetic.

And Wendy did that.

So I feel like the hero of the last couple episodes has actually really been Chris Bassett.

Like, I've never really thought much of him, but like, my God, I don't know how he takes being married to Candace.

She's so irrational.

And she just gets so heated so quickly.

And I feel like he does a really good job of trying to settle her and like trying to make her see outside her own bullshit.

Like, and I don't know.

I just like kind of love him.

And that conversation he had with Ashley, like, I really appreciate it.

He knows his wife is wrong.

Like, I think he just like walks around on eggshells around everyone.

Like, yeah, I know my my wife said, called you fat.

I know my wife did this to you.

I know my wife did that.

But he was just trying to like smooth everything over with everyone.

And I actually really appreciated his

candor when it came to Ashley.

And I'm sad that the conversation then at the restaurant turned so bad.

I had no idea that Candace called Michael Darby a slave driver, which is crazy.

Crazy.

So this is just like time after time below the belt, called her wide, slave driver, Mia's big hands, Mia's mom, mother's low budget, your mother's a hoe.

It's like,

It's kind of like I'm like done like I was done.

I think other people are becoming done, which is you know refreshing to see but then also I think the craziest part is in at the end of the night She's in bed with Chris and she was like or She was like that was yesterday today is fine.

Delusion.

What about everything you just burned in your wake?

Like that's the damage is still there just delusional that like oh I can behave like that one day but as long as if I don't do it the next day it's as if it didn't happen.

No and the scene where they're really kind of doing side by sides i think this is from two weeks ago side by sides of uh drag me monique and then throwing the one piece of lettuce yes mia threw the whole platter lest we not forget candace threw the first piece it's always

in a small little instigation and then obviously the person blows up because you threw food at them you put your finger in their face and so I just, I really can't with her anymore, like at all.

And I really tried.

Yeah, no, I really, I was coming, like, and in certain instances and situations, like

she doesn't bother me that much.

I think some of, like, her, the friendships that she has are nice, whatever.

But just, if she doesn't get justice rained down on her at the reunion, like, I, I can't go two for two on reunions with no justice.

Okay, also, for me, the part where I, like, completely, like, left Candace last night was when they finally all sat down in the boat.

They're talking about, like, why, you know, Mia was.

talking about why like what she said hurt her her mother has been sober for eight years she was in jail for 10 years Um, and then Candice is like, Well, when you said my music video was low-budget, and she started to cry, like, to compare what she did to Mia to what Mia did to her, which are literally not even close to being summer, she started to cry.

I'm like, Are you fucking kidding me?

Like, she, like, honestly, now I just feel like the entire time she cried at the reunion last year, like, fraudulently.

She'll just cry over anything.

Over anything, yeah.

Also, I think that Mia, I actually really like Mia because I'm the one who's like so messy and Dixie.

They can't, like, she can't carry bones.

She comes upstairs, like snitching on what Robin said and she like got it to show them.

But then she also like

in that moment, I'm just like, geez, like what?

Yeah.

And then she owns it.

I'm like, oh my God, she's like so cute.

And everybody like really likes her.

But then also, I really like how like she was so, and I admire actually that she was so hurt and offended and like

at a level 10 of like, I'm done with this person.

But she still sat down.

She still was like, I want to have a conversation.

Whenever that happens, like she had the conversation and she moved moved on from it like that's extremely mature i could never so to have like one person encompass all of those things it's really refreshing she's a great housewife like i do have to say um her husband is glad like i i'm glad that they always nip in the bud that like the game of telephone got mixed up me too otherwise it would cause all these issues you know like you know um

like I hate when it says

housewives.

It's all predicated on did you say this one word?

Yeah.

Did you call Kim an enabler or whatever?

Did you say my sister's close to death?

Yes, yes, that's one

um so also though I do love Mia but her husband like is kind of annoying and with the Ashley thing at the end of the episode like Ashley's right like leave me alone we're on the boat all day like I have to pump like I have a kid can I just fucking sleep and there's nothing that grinds my gears more than like when someone's like you're sleeping like I'm tired yeah I'm sleeping yeah I I want to like G and it's right now I do until this particular instance I also like like how Mia is just like that's not my problem no like she's not gonna like tell him how to live tell him to stop drinking tell him what to say.

They're just like, and I think that's actually a good approach.

Otherwise, she would be so fucking stressed out.

Yeah.

And it would like come between them if she was like, please stop.

Because when he's drinking, it's like when he's being annoying.

And he's just really annoying.

And he's an annoying drunk for sure.

Yeah.

Like he picks fights with people.

But he's a grown, very grown man.

Like, she's not going to tell him how to live his life.

You know?

Also, best dress this episode, a Scala.

Like, she was just looking like a

gorgeous model old Hollywood glam with the glasses and the scarf on her head.

Like she's killing it.

No, but even like her pajamas, she's been killing it.

But this episode, I think

she shined brighter than ever.

And, you know, when she sat down with Robin and was like, I actually, another thing that was a big check in Robin's thing for me, she was like, I know, like, I hate Wendy, but like, you want to be friends with her?

Like, that's fine.

Like, so fucking mature.

Especially then you go to watch Salt Lake City and it's like, exactly.

Can't even talk to each other.

Exactly.

Claudia, I had the same feelings about Robin.

And I think, not to negate everything that we've ever said about her, but I think it's like when Robin's on her own,

like in her friendships, she has a really good POV.

When she is Giselle's sidekick is when she's at her worst.

That's exactly what Karen Huger said.

She's like, Juan should come because right now she's just being like negative with Giselle.

Whereas if her and Juan were here, they could have like a good time.

Though I didn't think she was being negative with Giselle.

I thought that they were being extremely realistic.

Me too.

Like, I didn't think they were being dramatic.

No, I would have done the exact same thing.

Every single time I would have done the same thing.

Yeah.

So, yes, I had a nice moment with Robin.

Me too.

I had a lot of respect for that.

Like, I, especially when we're now watching Salt Lake City, where, like, literally the crux of every fight is like, well, you're my friend, but you're friends with Whitney and I hate Whitney.

Like, which is so immature.

And Robin was like, I had wondered if it was weird that Robin brought Ascala on the show.

And Ascala hasn't even been seen with Robin.

She's actually really good friends with like with the other side, Karen,

Wendy.

They're like a threesome, the cottage girls, you know?

So I thought, I'm like, I wonder if this is going to be a problem.

And Robin was like so mature about it.

I was honestly

impressed.

Kudos to Robin.

And kudos to Escala for bringing fashion to this show.

It does not go unnoticed.

And, you know, she's working against the odds here.

I was, you know what?

I feel like we've had other first-time housewives who brought less to the table.

And I'm curious why, they obviously filmed a lot with Escala.

She's on the trip.

Like, she was, I feel like she was supposed to be a full-time housewife and ended up as a friend of.

When I actually feel like, I want to know more about Iscala.

Her husband is very hop.

Like, I want to know more.

Yeah, maybe we'll get that next season.

I wonder why it didn't happen.

But that's happened a lot before where, like, someone's on every trip and then.

Yeah, but you kind of understand, like, Barbara Cavovet.

Like, we knew why she didn't get a full-time housewife role.

Like, I mean, we had that with Sutton.

We had that with.

But we knew why.

Sutton had legal problems.

Yeah.

We had that with that gen girl from Dallas.

But honestly, like, after seeing her, I didn't think that she would have been in an amazing housewife.

Like, I needed to see more.

But with the Scala, I'm like, give me more.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Just a thought.

Just a thought.

Anyways, I really appreciate what she's bringing to the table

from a fashion perspective.

Me too.

Yeah.

So it was a good episode, for sure.

Yeah.

I'm very much looking forward to Ray and Karen renewing their vows.

Yeah.

And then Salt Lake City was on, and it was pretty good.

Honestly, the ending was so shookworthy to me that I actually watched Watch Rapids Live because I needed to see Jenny give some sort of explanation for like, I thought her husband, when they kept showing that in the preview, he was asking for a sister wife, was kidding.

And because they're not Mormon, they're Christian or Catholic.

But I didn't realize in Vietnamese culture, it's actually pretty common to be a polygamist.

So I thought it was a joke.

And then when he was being dead serious, after just like hounding her, like, how many more times does she have to say, like, I've miscarried nine times.

I had a still birth.

Like, fuck off.

Yeah.

I don't know how many other ways she could say it.

And then I thought he was starting to like understand a little bit.

and then he brought up the sister wife comment and honestly i don't think i've ever hated a house husband more than i hate this man yeah and at first the conversation went so sideways so fast because they both have really they both had really um

deep trauma trauma but also like

like personal opinions about this like i completely understand where jenny's coming from obviously and then after speaking hearing from her husband like i i understand where he's coming from from too but jenny's perspective is more important in my opinion yes of course.

So I'm sorry, but like, fuck off.

Beyond fuck off.

When she was on Watch What Happens Live and she just summed it up as like, you know, obviously when you're young, you have these ideas, like, I want a big family, but then like life happens and, you know.

And two kids feels like a million.

No, and she has three kids, right?

Yeah, no.

So like, no, everyone says, like, yeah, I want to have a thousand kids.

No, but it's not even I want to have a thousand kids.

Like, you.

It's, you can't sometimes.

Like, that just doesn't happen for you.

And, like, he's still living in the past of like, where's my big family?

And it's like, look around.

These are, it's over.

This is the reality reality of the situation I think she's like on watch what happens live she had a very um good perspective take on it so I'm hoping that they've moved on from this sister wife comment I don't know how you do

but she seemed like she was like they've reached some sort of when she was telling Meredith and Lisa about her stillborn birth I have to say, I literally cried so hard.

And then when I had a real 180-degree moment with Lisa Barlow, when she was in her confessionals and she was like, I've actually heard this story, like I've known this about Lisa, about Jenny.

And then she started to cry.

I was like, you know what?

Lisa Barlow is a good friend.

She is an empathetic person.

I am turning around.

Lest we not forget when last season, when Meredith told her that her and Seth were separating and she started crying, like, she is a good friend.

I want to say this episode, I have.

I'm completely turned on Lisa Barlow in a positive direction.

I was until that meal.

No, no.

Okay.

Jackie, that was fraudulent.

And I'm a

Whitney dance.

Oh my gosh.

For her just calling it out being like, are you kidding me?

This is so sage.

No, it was.

I

still really like Whitney, but like

there was points in the Lisa column after last night's episode, and I didn't feel like I had points in the Whitney column.

Let me just explain, if I may.

First of all, when Lisa took her to

Whiskey and Pie, or gin and pie, which was like a really cute date, Lisa was very, I felt, direct, honest.

She didn't really like try to pretend like, I think maybe she did did try to like obfuscate you know i never had an issue with you but then eventually she gets real and is like right you know we've had issues let's move forward i i know i can be people think that they know how i'm thinking or feeling and i do feel like we always feel like we know like oh lisa's really thirsty like this or yeah and i just don't feel like we know lisa i she's just way more interesting and complex than layered than i had previously thought so i really liked her

direct take her take on reconciling with Whitney.

And also, it's like, we don't need to go through everything I ever said.

I'm sure she talked some trash.

I'm sure she thought Whitney and Heather were basic and that they weren't cool, like her and Meredith and Jen.

Sure, but you know what?

Whitney's here to stay.

Lisa gets it now.

Can we move forward?

Sorry.

And she did apologize.

Like, she wasn't just, I thought she was going to be a lot more hard-headed because also that's what the previous meeting said.

Like, she was like laughing in Whitney's face.

Yeah.

So I was like, okay, you know what?

I like how Lisa Barlow does an apology.

Pie looks great.

Jin's looking good.

I'm here for it.

Then she's such a good friend to Jenny, and I'm just like feeling her as a person.

And then in the situation at the restaurant, I don't think that it was meant to be a setup.

I think, I don't know the name of the owner, Aubrey?

It's Aubrey.

It's Angie.

Okay, then Aubrey.

An Aubrey, yeah.

Aubrey, so did you see the DMs from last week?

I did.

That, okay, after last week's episode, some DMs went, you know, on the internet from the restaurant owner saying Lisa did not tell us to cancel Angie's event.

We had already planned to film at our restaurant, like with

Bravo.

They were going to have like a cast event at our restaurant, and it was just a matter of like, we're doing this instead of that.

Not, so

I came at it from this perspective of like, they had plans to film at Aubrey's new restaurant.

Lisa's going to support her friends.

It's where her tequila is.

It's just so, like, I think it just so happens that there's, you know, not so many restaurateurs

and restaurants they're going to go to.

I thought, I'm glad that Whitney called it out, but I'm also glad that they moved on because it was too stupid.

No, and you know what?

Lisa probably did want, like, I do think, I do believe Lisa's genuine in wanting to be friends with.

Whitney, and I think that the fact that their husbands are so close is so cute, and I loved the idea of them going.

We literally saw them hang out three times in this episode.

Like, I loved it.

But I do think she probably was genuine in that, but also wanted to, like, clear her name and her friend's name.

So she's like, oh, this is my friend.

This is her restaurant.

she can you believe what angie said about me like it was so staged i love that lisa called it i mean that heather called it out but i also am glad that they got past it because i i do really stand this friendship yeah me too and also i just want to put all of it on aubrey like angie no angie oh you want to put it on the restaurant tour to put it all on the restaurant tour like she came over like you don't need to be serving the food like let them like the restaurant was getting such good press the food looks so good the drinks were so good you didn't need to come over you didn't need to bring up Angie and you ruined this beautiful night.

And so even if Lisa Barlow is complicit, I'm putting it all on Aubrey.

I mean, her acting was

Lisa, can you believe what Angie said?

She really thought she was doing auditioning for the show.

And for that reason, I'm glad Whitney called her out and put in the end to the madness.

But I just want, even if there is blame on Lisa's shoulders, I'm putting it all on Aubrey so that I can move forward with a clean conscience.

Okay.

I really do love this friendship.

I hope it stays.

And I just, I can't even tell you how much I love Salt Lake City.

Like, the fact that Whitney is going to the gym and there's just like mountains in the background.

Like, could you imagine?

No, it's so gorgeous.

It's so gorgeous.

Oh, Lisa and Heather are going to go talk about the birds and the bees.

Let's go.

Go skiing.

Yeah.

Even when Jenny had that atrocious conversation with her husband, they were skiing.

No, they were like doing cross-country.

That looked so Miz.

That's the worst part of skiing is like walking around in the skis.

The flat.

Who would make a whole sport of it?

Psychos.

Psychos.

So yeah, I feel like it was actually a very low-key episode.

Like the Whitney Heather stuff was really the main Lisa.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

But you know what?

Mary's home scenes are just getting like so sad and so dark.

Mary and Lisa playing tennis was

Meredith.

Honestly, like, why can't we get any of their names?

It's Monday.

Meredith and Mary playing tennis was just like so hysterical.

They both looked amazing.

Why is Meredith playing in a fur coat and she shows up in

boots?

Yeah.

But she looked so stunning.

Mary in her Tom Brown outfit.

Like I can't.

And I felt like...

They were having two different conversations where like Meredith thought we were just like complaining about her husband our husbands and like their weird quirks and Mary was just like I hate my husband.

No, we live in separate wings.

Like

I'm forcing my son to live with us because I don't want to be alone with him.

No, and I'm not joking.

Yeah.

Like doesn't Robert Sr.

watch the show?

Like that's the only thing I'm saying.

No, I think Mary says this shit to his face.

Like, if you change everything about you, I would be in love with you.

For sure.

So, I don't know where they go from here.

But, like, they just have one of like a marriage, just, you know, very like downtown rooms.

Like, we're just partners.

But, like, in this day and age, like, once your kid's out of the house, like, what do you do?

And that's actually when a lot of people in this day and age like do end up getting divorced.

Like, when the kids are gone, you, like, look at each other and you're like, what the fuck do we even have in common anymore?

That brings me back to a main theme in the book I just read, Party Crasher.

Which is?

Which is they had, you know, kids grown up, divorced, and then the kids were all like

everything was a lie.

And then, like, the women have this like renaissance and they find themselves again.

Like, it's like a Nancy Myers movie.

Yeah.

It's like everything.

Yeah.

No, but sometimes you think it's best for the kids to like wait, but then the kids are like, wait, so you were just lying the whole time.

Right, right, right.

And that messes with the kids, too.

So, like, do you think it's better to be children of divorce like at our age when it was we were like 11 or like when you're 27?

I actually feel like younger is better.

I think it's it just it's like

either way could be bad, and you can like blame all your issues on it.

It just depends on the kid, not the time.

No, but if you're like in the process of like dating, getting engaged, getting married, and your parents get divorced, and like it's your whole foundation for like love.

Oh, that's really messed up.

That like is very difficult to deal with.

So, like, honestly, I would prefer being 11.

Like, I remember, like, if you read in my New York Times best-selling novel, girlthnearjob.com/slash book.

Um, I really don't remember giving a shred of a shit that my parents were getting divorced.

But some people, people, it's like the thing that breaks them.

Like they never recover from it.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

But when you're all but like when you're an adult and your parents get divorced, like you have, you're, you know, in your own life and an apartment and it doesn't affect your day-to-day as much.

Whereas when you're a kid, like, it could mean moving.

That's true.

There's a lot of upheaval.

That's true.

But also, if you're like 27.

That's right.

I think you need to know your kids.

You know what?

Yeah, yeah.

Because if you're 27 and like you're dating and like you've looked up to your parents forever and like that is the foundation of what you believe a healthy relationship to be and then it just becomes comes crumbling down like

how did we get to this conversation?

Oh married mary, okay?

No, but it's an interesting conversation.

I think I would prefer to be a child of divorce at age 11, even though then it's like all the kids are like looking at you like who fucking cares?

No, and I was just reading about it and thinking about it and basically the reason why the main character in the book, like, so she's 25 maybe and her parents are getting divorced and she cannot handle it.

Oh my God, she like loses her fucking mind.

Right.

So when like honestly, I know it's very triggering for a lot of people, but like it really is not a big deal.

Like your parents are both alive, like not to rub it in, but like, come on.

No, but see, honestly, I really feel

like

I think being younger is better.

Also, because like, I'm sorry, kids, they need some things to go through in order to have a personality.

Like,

that's a really good point.

You got to build character.

Like, not everything can be easy for the kids.

The kids need adversity.

I think adversity is the best thing that ever happened to me.

A hundred percent.

I would agree.

I think, like, the the universe took it a little far with like killing my father, but before that, I think it was good.

Yeah, no, you got to crank up the adversity and things.

It shouldn't always be easy.

That's how your kid becomes like a spoiled fucking brat.

It's true, but it's like as a parent, like you just want to protect

everything in this kid should never know power.

Of course, of course, of course.

No, it's so true.

It's like a balance of like wanting them to have a really easy, wonderful, great life, but also like you don't want them to be

like interesting, well-rounded human beings.

And you have to go through things in order to be a person with something to say.

Yeah.

So that's your Real House Isolic City recap.

And that's just, you know, a little bit about being a parent.

No, I mean, you're literally about to be one.

Like, I know, it makes you think.

It does.

You need to set up, like, you should, like, set up fake obstacles so that, like, you know, the stakes aren't that high.

No, like when I think of Kayla and she's like standing up, I'm like,

just push it down so she can know what it's like to fall try again.

And is she going to get back up?

She's too successful.

She's too successful.

It's terrible.

Um, okay, that was the real housewives recap.

That was our show, and that was some parenting advice.

Yeah, god, can't wait till we're like, we're obviously going to be doing this show forever.

So, like, when we actually have kids, like, who have, like, you know, like problems and shit, like, the show is going to be so funny, hysterical.

But are we going to like really air out our kids' dirty laundry on the podcast?

100%.

It depends on the stain.

It depends on the kid.

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