S4 Ep166: Simpatico with Erin Gilfoy and Carly Incontro: Tuesday, September 21st, 2021

Good morning millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Tuesday.

Hope everyone's having an amazing day.

Amazing.

So far, no good, you guys.

The UN is my personal cryptonite

and it's just, it's, it's only, I can't believe it's just the beginning of the week.

Okay, but here's a good sign.

This is me, my new positivity.

I see you've cracked out your official boots for winter.

I did.

And that's a sign that we are truly falling into fall.

That's true.

And also, um, I was kind of regretting it because I had to walk this morning because just like traffic is really crazy in New York.

So, don't come here this week if you were thinking about it.

And they were like too heavy for the walking.

You have to think about these things when you're pregnant because everything tires you out.

Jack, you have to think about those things when you're pregnant and when you're fat.

You have no idea.

Like, we are so simpatico right now.

I think about everything before I leave the house.

And I actually cracked out yesterday my like Zara knock off of your boots.

And this is what happens when you buy Zara.

I love these boots.

I really wore them like to the bone last winter and there's no more.

It's like I couldn't get a new pair.

I got home yesterday and like the boot fell off the sole.

Like it's just split right down the middle.

Don't worry.

I'm literally taking them to the shoemaker, having to spend more than what I actually spent on the cheap ass boots.

Why don't you just get whatever the designer version is of them?

Because you clearly love them and then they'll last you many years.

Well, because I have to say I love the Zara ones.

I really have no complaints other than like the terrible quality because they're so comfortable.

And last year, I remember I spent the whole day like ready to spend the money on like the real boots that I was knocking off.

I couldn't even find them.

And everywhere I went, they were giving me like stumpy little like

cankles.

Yeah, it was cankle season.

So I found boots that I like, and I'm gonna spend every dollar I have to maintain their integrity.

Okay, that's you know, everyone has their own journey.

Speaking of maintaining integrity, this is a downtown Abbey spoiler, and it's a really big one.

So I'm giving you 10 seconds, okay?

10,

9, 18, 8, 6 o'clock.

We are Simpatico.

Simpatico.

One.

Okay.

Last night I finished season three.

And to be quite honest, I'm shocked.

Spoiler alert,

Matthew dies,

which is so unnecessary.

Like, I can't even begin to explain.

Because with Sybil, it was like the perfect death.

Like, nobody actually cared, but like, it was a big deal for the family.

And it was like shocking.

But like, it didn't affect the integrity of the show from here on out.

Yeah.

Now I only watched like 10 minutes of the next episode because I was so like, I was so defeated.

Like I just I mean and you know they had to do it in the most painful way.

Like they had the baby.

It's an air.

They're so happy.

He's driving home.

The sun's in his eyes.

He's laughing.

He's smiling.

He

dead.

Splat concrete.

Splat.

And

to be honest, I'm not really interested in watching a show without Matthew.

And I don't know how that's going to affect the rest of the seasons.

I understand.

I mean, sitting here and listening to you going through Downton Abbey, it's been hard for me to know what's coming for you.

And even still, like, there's so much coming, good and bad.

And it's just a journey.

And it's okay.

It's okay.

You know what?

It turns out to be okay.

No, here's the other thing.

Here's the other thing.

With Sybil, it was like, all right, she wasn't even like a character like I really liked.

But with Matthew, he was like, I feel like as the show goes on, everyone's getting worse and worse.

I used to love the dad, Robert.

He's actually the worst character on the show.

He's so stubborn and just like he's the worst.

And Mary, now that she's in mourning, is like a bitch to everyone.

And she gets really bitchy sometimes.

And now she's like in a permanent state of bitchiness.

Edith is pathetic.

The mom is sweet.

And all we have is the Dowager because Matthew's mom for like the last two seasons is really starting to piss me off with her self-righteousness.

Yeah.

So now I feel like I'm left with literally like just the dowager with characters who I stab.

No, but then you still have like Carson and everyone downstairs.

True.

But still, the family is sort of disintegrating.

Just

give it a beat.

You know, Downton never

stays down for long.

Stays down for long.

It's true.

And by the way, those three words that I was thinking of for people who have watched Downton, Claudia finally closed the chapter on Thomas's scandal and whether or not he was going to be fired or not.

The three little words were her little words.

Ladieship's soap.

Which was sent a chill down my spine.

Right?

I never forgot it.

I never forgot it either because, honestly, I thought that was a secret that I was going to die with Miss O'Brien.

Oh, and Miss o'brien just literally bounced yeah

for um

their cousin who like wants to move to bombay and do her hair with o'brien i don't know right so that's good news at least yeah but like she was bothering me less and less and you know what the woman who comes in to replace o'brien is a really good casting Like she adds a lot of value.

Well, I'm just like, I need a minute like before I just dive back in because I was like riding such a high last night.

Like the baby.

And I was like, yeah.

Oh, man.

And Lily lily james was a real surprise i haven't seen any actress did i bring this up yesterday no no i haven't seen any actress on downtown abbey that i really um have recognized from anywhere else like i couldn't even play stan stevens so to see someone you know like dominic west's lover rolling into downton it was very jarring and i didn't like it and i also just don't like her character Agreed.

She will stop bothering you so much.

It was definitely jarring the first time I saw her too, but now she's just like a part of the

fabric.

Yeah.

And her character is like, has so much energy and it's like just just like relaxed, relax.

But what's also crazy, which you didn't care about when I first told you, but in the downtown, in the next downton movie, downtown sequel, Dominic West is in it.

What?

Yeah, I saw that on the bill.

He is just out here ruining things that I don't know like what his role would be.

Ugh.

Hopefully he's like a PA, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

Well, that's my downtown journey.

I will keep you abreast on all things downtown, but just know I'm currently grieving.

and I'm just gonna have to figure a way out of this, but

I have no choice.

And we have a great show for you guys today because it's Tuesday, so we're doing deer toasters.

And we also yesterday recorded a fabulous interview finally with Aaron Guilfoy and Carly Incontro from the vlog squad, from their podcast.

You guys follow them on YouTube, you know them.

Um, I sat down with them and we did a great little interview that'll be at the end of this podcast episode.

And if you're watching on YouTube, we also filmed it, so it'll just be um on our channel, a separate video with the three of us.

So fun, fun.

So fun.

Like such girly girls, toasters.

So, you know, it's really nice to talk to people with similar interests, you know?

100%.

And they're so interesting.

You know, like they got started on Vine.

Like, that's how they launched their careers.

Oh, that's so cool.

Yeah.

I can't wait to watch.

Yeah, it was really good.

I am trepidatiously watching Outlander because you guys have really scared me because so many people have messaged me, stop.

They say, stop right now.

Do not watch.

Trauma everywhere you go.

And I narrowed it down to one specific episode, and I've tried to get a sense of what it could be that's so,

so terrible.

And I've also heard, like, someone said, like, don't watch this scene because, like, you're pregnant.

And, like, apparently it's just really, you know, traumatizing.

Are you easily traumatized?

I'm not.

It just depends.

Some things, like, really, like, I think some things that would bother other people.

Wouldn't bother me, but then sometimes things live in my mind red free for the rest of time.

That is such a good call.

Like, but and you know what?

I think this is compared to not in the act itself, but the way that it lives red-free in your mind and like when you think about it, you just your day is ruined.

The pig.

The pig.

Yeah.

I have a few things that live red and free in my mind.

The pig is obviously one of them.

The trundle.

The trundle.

Yeah, then there's like some episodes of SVU that like comparatively, because SVU airs on cable, it can never be that crazy.

But there's that episode I've brought it up before where Liv goes undercover because there is a guard who's abusing the women and you know the undercover op gets like fucked and she ends up like locked in a basement with this man and

that's like pretty tame compared to what we see on streaming services like but it's still like if I ever think about it I can't go to sleep

everyone has their things right so I think my plan is I'm gonna everyone said it's the last episode of season one so I'm gonna watch up until that if I'm really enjoying the show still I'll just skip the episode launch into season two and then someone could maybe brief me on what I miss I just can't even fathom what it could be that has everyone being like do not watch this show yeah like like now i'm kind of curious like right you want me to go watch it because i don't watch the show i don't watch the show okay or you guys just dm claudia and tell her what it is okay fine right yeah or like i'll just go watch it okay vlog it for the patreon

so but it's been fun i mean if i can't if i have to stop watching the show because of it though i wouldn't be that obsessed like obsessed no but it's it's nice and it's a good hardy show i just don't know where it's going like does she ever get back into time to Frank?

It's no downton.

Or does Frank come to her?

Like,

it's no downtime, but nothing can be downtown.

Nothing.

So, yeah, we have a great show.

It's going to be nice and long.

And I feel like we should just dive in.

You think we should dive in?

Yeah, I mean, I have literally nothing else to share.

I spent the whole day like waiting for Ben to be done working so we could watch Downton.

And honestly, today I'm not going to be as generous.

Like, because you know what?

I waited for him all night.

He got home so late from a meeting, eight o'clock, and we started watching, and he's like on his phone.

So it's like he doesn't value it as much as I do.

And I waited all day to day.

Say no more.

Say no more.

So fucking disrespectful.

Do you want to talk about the vest in the room?

Because you're just like sitting here looking so cool.

Yes, I'm wearing a vest, you guys, because it's officially in the 60s.

It hasn't been in the 60s yet.

So I've been waiting to take out my 818 vest that unfortunately I did not get for free and I did pay for, but

still cool.

No matter how you slice it.

I love a vest.

It's really cool.

Look at me.

So free because it's a vest.

No, it really is a vest season.

And it's such a cool vest.

So yeah, I got it for free.

Super cool.

Thank you.

Thanks for pointing it out so I could talk about it.

You're welcome.

And my look, it's all from ASOS Maternity today, so I'm just feeling super comfortable.

By the way, want to hear just how simpatico we are.

Sure.

I place like a, I actually have so many, like, engagement parties, bridal showers, weddings, and, like, I just need dresses.

And honestly, everything at Revolve is on pre-order, especially if you're looking for a size extra large.

Like, best of luck, maybe you could try Sears.

Like, but, so I went on other places, and I haven't chopped on ASOS in a while, and I got a bunch of dresses, and it was like this really cute dress for a wedding, and it was maternity.

I'm like I got a big belly so you got it for sure okay great I'll borrow it yeah and I'll see if it fits great yeah I can't wait to show me what it is I need dresses too ASOS maternity ASOS in general is just like catering to all of us the petite the tall the curved the maternity and I just want to say ASOS we see you for seeing us and we are grateful it's really true because all ladies are not built the same All pregnant ladies are not built the same.

And ASOS sees us.

And I love it.

And when I'm shopping maternity clothes, I just go by my size like of not maternity.

Like I'm a small

people were asking me, like, what size do you get in maternity clothes?

Like, small, because they're taking care of the maternity, the belly.

Yeah, right.

Right?

Okay, now without further ado, do, do, do, do, where are you right here being so beautiful, stunning, and smart?

It is time for the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

I'm sorry.

My RDH just like attacked me.

Jake, I'm trying to be creative and inventive.

Could you at least like be supportive?

I just want you to know if I did that, like scared you, you would have had to take like three minutes off of the show.

Of course, because I know you don't scare easily, like, and I do, so that would be rude of you, but it's fine for if I do it.

Okay, cool.

And I'm sorry that I just got so scared because the looming sense of RDH was like so spooky.

Okay, well, why don't you get it off your chest?

Let us know what you need us to know.

Thank you for indulging me.

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Okay.

First story, little real estate news.

Kanye has reportedly bought a $57.3 million Malibu escape amid his divorce.

And I just have to say,

this is

true

thievery.

I well, open this TMZ article.

$57 million on a Malibu beach house.

When I think that, I think something, you know, double, triple the size size of Yolanda's home in Malibu.

Right.

It's literally a townhouse on the ocean.

I was shocked.

It's like one of those houses where it's like the houses are all next to each other.

Yeah, when you drive on Pacific Coast and they're beautiful and they look out, but literally $57 million to be living on top of your neighbors.

No, I know.

In a townhouse?

That's that's beachfront in California.

And that's robbery.

It's highway robbery.

I agree.

And I actually am shocked that Kanye would be into this home.

I mean, obviously the style of home everyone's making fun of.

It's very like concrete.

They're saying parking garage.

No, and like that, with those homes in Malibu, like the front of the home faces the ocean.

So the only thing you see is the back.

You see, like the garage, and literally, you pull up to it.

I swear, it looks like a one-story home.

Like

it could be anywhere.

Like, it could be

in Long Island.

It could be in Queens.

Like, it's, there's literally nothing unique about it.

Well, I'm like, the interior is cool, and it's very modern, and clearly, he wants a little beach access, and he's willing to pay $57 million for it.

I can't get over that.

Like, this is robbery.

And next question.

Are the beaches that it's on public beach?

No.

I have no idea, but I can't imagine.

Okay.

But just like, okay, so that's like one home.

It's literally a townhome surrounded by like 15 others.

All of them are like $50, $60 million homes.

Right.

It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

I know.

And it just really seems like not Kanye.

He seems to like personal space.

Like, you know, Wyoming.

Wyoming.

And even their house in...

Calabasas or wherever it is is like expansive and there's no one around.

They have so much property.

It's like he's living living in manhattan in a walk-up yeah it's and 57 million dollars like i cannot get over it yeah if i had 57 million dollars i'm taking it to

i'm splitting it up i'm getting a farm like i'm getting

10 million here 10 million 500

or like a penthouse penthouses are actually very secluded like you get your space like i'm I'm not doing this.

That's what I'm saying.

Like literally, this is the opposite of what I'm doing.

I agree.

I would split it up.

up for sure.

Because, honestly, no beach house, really, even like, you can get the nicest possible beach house for like $11 million.

Like, you don't need to spend clearly not.

No, and also, like,

I've only been to one beach in Malibu, and this is a hot take.

I didn't think it was that great.

The beach itself, yeah, like the sand, like, the sand and the atmosphere, and just, like, the vibe.

I was like,

I don't know.

I'm going to disagree with you.

I don't think there's any better vibe on earth than like Nobu Malibu.

I was just saying the actual beach, like the sand, the ocean.

Like the beach.

Nobu Malibu is everything.

No, it's gorgeous.

I'm saying texture-wise.

The beach.

Yeah.

Okay.

Like, if I had $57 million to stand on a beach house, my beach house is going to be an island off the coast of Turks and Caicos.

Like,

this is nuts.

No one else agreeing with me?

Like, it's nuts.

No, this is, I think everybody agrees with you.

Plus, they don't like the style of the house, which.

It's not.

Okay, by the way, if it was like this unique style of households, even if Rach Parcel designed it.

No, no, but like even if it was like this really, a design that I thought was heinous, let's say I do think farmhouse is heinous.

But do you modern farmhouse?

Hate.

What's to hate?

Oh my God, it's so overdone.

Like the tufted couches, like I just, I

hate.

So like Dorit's house you don't like?

That's not modern farmhouse.

Oh, by the way, that's like the, or the outside is modern farmhouse.

I'm talking about inside decor.

Like,

like,

hold on, give me a second.

Okay, show me some pictures.

Yeah.

That's such a hot take.

Farmhouse interior design here.

Like,

yeah, like, let me see.

It's so,

it's so, like, basic.

It's nice to, I mean, it's pleasant.

No, it's pleasant, not for me.

Okay.

But, uh, interior.

The inside of Dorit's house is actually like very contemporary, but the outside is like farmhouse vibes.

Modern farmhouse.

Yeah, but like these types of like

lighting units, like I I don't like farmhouse interior, modern farmhouse.

Okay.

Um

but wait back to no, so what I was saying was like, okay, even if I don't like the interior, but it's like a palace, I'm like, I can respect that it's not my style, but it's a palace.

This is literally like a garage that's also ugly.

Yeah.

If you know what I'm saying.

It's very harsh.

That it is.

That's very Kanye.

But it's also not,

I'm so confused.

No, but you know, Chrissy Teigen and John, what's his face, had a beach house that they were always posting at.

And I do believe they recently sold it, and it was sickening, like a Malibu beach house.

It was like so many stories.

It was gorgeous.

And I think it was like 20 million.

So I just feel like Kanye got a bad deal.

I'm telling you, maybe it's like on a different stretch of beach.

Like, maybe this is prime location.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It just doesn't seem like a good investment.

And I know nothing about money.

I agree, but Kanye knows a lot.

So I'm just going to trust him on this one.

Or maybe he has a plan.

Maybe he's going to buy up the block.

Oh, that makes sense.

Like literally $1 billion later.

Yeah, literally.

Okay, our next story, you guys, a little update from yesterday.

I know everybody's been like shaking in their boots.

Waiting with bated breath, but Christina Hack has confirmed her engagement to Joshua Hall and Tarek has already congratulated her.

Is it a people exclusive?

So she announced her engagement on Instagram.

Tarek went to people to tell them that they just saw congratulations.

My Tarek is so thirsty.

And a lot of sleuths on the internet realize that Christina's ring was made by the same jeweler that Tarek had Heather's made from.

None of this surprises me whatsoever.

No, it's the most incestual.

I'm just waiting to hear what Renee Zalweger thinks about Christina's engagement.

Like, I don't think she cares.

Honestly, the fact that we're all so wrapped up in this circle, but like Renee Zellweger is like so A-list, so like cut off from reality.

I'm sure she doesn't even know like who Aunt Anne said used to date.

She has no idea who these people are.

Oh, but you know, Aunt, they have kids together, right?

Aunt and Christina.

Do they?

I do believe they have one child.

Oh.

Yeah.

Can you just say that?

Are you

If they do, then Renee is going to be forced to be in Christina's life, which is insane.

But if they don't, it's a clean break.

But I'm pretty sure they have a child.

Okay, I'm just going to go to the last time she was pregnant, which was in 2021.

Yeah.

Huh.

This is so crazy.

Like, this group of people just moves incredibly fast.

There's so much toxicity.

There's so much incest.

There's so much weirdness.

Like, the fact that Heather Ray Young used to host a podcast with Christina Hack's fiancé sister.

Like, so much weirdness.

It's like there's 11 people in Orange County, and they're all like just getting married and remarried and engaged and having babies.

And Tarek and Christina are at the center of it.

And so is their atrocious HGTV show.

Like, you want to talk about something with people with no style?

You have to watch one fucking episode of their show.

They do the same thing in every home, and it's white subway tile, marble quartz counters.

Like, it's so basic.

They redo

every fireplace with just like white subway tile, white brick white everything you know linen floors it's so basic tarik does like the layout and christina does the style and honestly i don't know who has like less taste interesting i'm gonna say christina never watched an episode honestly it's so boring literally they go to like a shithole house that's like been you know foreclosed or like hoarders it's disgusting and they either flip it or they flop it yeah and like they never really flop it because like sometimes what they consider a flop like it just hasn't sold yet like but it's done and it will sell and like the episode just ended you know and then christina has her own show now like christina by the ocean yeah christina takes the beach or whatever because they're so toxic together they can't even be in the same room um but i really would love for you to watch one episode of flipper flop like it's

it's torture like it's just and you know once you've seen one you've seen them all they walk into a dirty home christina's like ew tarik tarek's like oh should i watch one from when they were married or not married same literally the same like it doesn't matter but watch when they were married just so you could really see like the underlying issues.

Um, and then, like, Tarek demos it.

Christina takes the kid, goes to the marble store, and is like, Should we do this one or this one?

I like this one, but it's more expensive.

But, like, what will daddy say?

She obviously goes to the more expensive one.

She comes back, Tarek is like, Oh my god, we're so over budget.

And he tries to find like other ways to like cheap out and you know, like justice for whoever you know buys the house because Tarek cut like 1,000 corners.

Then their

contractor comes in and is like, We found a pipe.

You know, it's always like something like termites, mold, something, and they have to counter that into the budget.

Then they have this fake open house where like actual paid actors come to be like, oh, what a great master bedroom.

Is that a wood-burning fireplace?

And then at the end, they like pretend someone buys it.

Once you honestly, you know, I just did such a good idea.

I feel like I was there.

Every episode is the exact same.

Nothing unique ever happens.

Ever.

Okay.

Okay.

But it's so good.

Is it?

No, it's atrocious.

Especially like when you're watching reruns on HGTV and you just happen to catch like a fabulous old episode of Fix Her Upper and you see the love between Chip and Joe and the home style.

Even though it's not always my style, it's so unique and so thoughtful.

Like every corner of the home is built with love for the family.

And literally, like then you go to Target and Christina who can't stop fighting.

And literally the home is just a factory.

Like there's no thought, nothing.

It's just like literal like model homes.

I'm dying.

Okay.

Thank you for that.

I could literally give a TED talk like on the intricacies of like being a couple on HGTV.

And then there's that couple from hometown.

Have you ever watched Hometown?

No.

What's that?

They're like a poor man's Chip and Joe, but they're so sweet and they care so much about their neighborhood.

That's why they're like successful similar to Chip and Joe.

I think they live in like some random town in Minneapolis, but they preserve the old homes in their neighborhood and it's just like everything in the house comes, you know, like, oh, this wood burner, this, you know, this wood table, like, you know, the pilgrims ate here.

Like, there's always something.

Like, and then she, like, does a watercolor of the house and frames it for the people.

Like, it's so cute.

That's cute.

Sounds like it has a historical touch to it.

By the way,

it's literally historical fiction.

Like, you have to watch it.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

You've given me a lot of homework.

Yeah.

I mean, you've watched Fixer Upper before, right?

Yes.

And also, I like their stuff on Magnolia.

I watched her.

You got to get on the Magnolia channel.

Her cooking show.

No, not the.

Home shows don't really do it for me.

Really?

Yeah, I don't watch any HGTV, but

like I like her cooking show on Magnolia Network.

And I watched all the episodes that were out when, like, I was watching them.

I went through a phase where I watched every single fixer-upper.

It was all on Netflix.

Like, one summer, I just watched every single one, and I'm obsessed.

And then, like, I just HGTV really was born out of necessity for me because me and Ben went on vacation in Aruba, and the TV was like not working, and there was nothing on except HGTV, and I never watched it before.

Chip and Joe were on, and my life was forever changed.

That's beautiful.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Sure.

Dancing with the Stars season 30 premiered last night and they finally revealed which pros the celebs are paired with.

And I know you guys were on the edge of your seats wondering who is going to be paired with who.

Don't be condescending.

Like some people were.

No.

No, by the way, people who are obsessed with Dancing with the Stars go on the tour and are obsessed, not even with the stars, but with the pros.

Like they couldn't wait.

Like this was like a huge, this is like finding out who the next bachelor is for people.

Okay.

I'm dead serious.

But like, what does it mean?

Like, there are just some fan favorites, like Val Kulimurkowski.

And there's also, like, some people who are always like thrown into like okay now are they dating and then there's also people who just take one for the team every single time like I feel like Cheryl is that her name uh we'll go through okay but JoJo Siba made history with the same-sex dancing partner Jenna Johnson Trimkovsky Very cute very cute very exciting Amanda Klutz and Alan Burston oh Alan Burston was the one who danced with Hannah and won okay um I found him on I only watched it seems like he keeps getting the professional dancers I found him to be so annoying.

And I felt like Hannah found him to be so annoying too.

He's just always glomming onto her.

But I feel like they also had to pretend like, are they, aren't they?

Yeah.

Because it's good for ratings.

I don't, I actually don't particularly like him.

Like, he just has a face I don't like.

Nothing against him.

Just his face.

Just his face.

Sunny Lee and Sasha Farber.

I don't know who that is.

Mel C and Gleb Savchenko.

Who dated Lisa Vanderbum?

He dated her.

That's like, there was a rumor rumor that she dated Lisa Vanderbum, but also there was a rumor that he actually was one of Erica Jane's mistresses.

Because

misters, he was Erica's partner.

That I remember about him.

Malora Hardin and Ardem, Nikki's husband.

Okay, I heard Malora Hardin like killed it.

I watched a few of the performances.

Yeah, we want to get your thoughts.

It's just one of those shows, like it's an ABC thing.

Like they have to waste as much of your time as you can.

Especially in the first episode, like they're going to let you, everyone, they're going to let you know what these stars have been up to since the day they were born.

It's so annoying.

Like it's just one of those shows that has no respect respect from your time.

And whoever is ahead of time management at ABC, like, fired.

Kenya Moore and Brandon Armstrong.

I don't know who Brandon is.

Me neither.

Christine Chu and Pasha Pashkov.

No.

Brian Austin Green and Sharna Burgess.

Oh, that's cute.

Oh, I didn't put this together that this would be happening.

Oh, I'm going to watch your performance because I would like to see the chemistry.

That's actually really cool.

Okay, that makes him being on the show more sense.

Cuter.

This is cute.

If they were to win, like, which they won't, they won't.

But I don't, I didn't watch, so who am I to say?

Maybe he's super talented.

Okay.

Something not losery from Brian Austin Green.

Shocking.

Cody Rigsby and Cheryl Burke.

Oh, she did not take one for the team.

That's who I was saying.

Cheryl is, by the way, this could be a winning duo.

I actually think, I've done a lot of thinking about this, and I think that the top two are going to be Cody Rigsby and JoJo Siwa.

That's just my thought.

You think?

Okay, I'm not.

Because they're both really good dancers and have huge platforms.

Okay, how many?

And they're not riddled by scandal at all.

Like, they are perfect, like, brand safe people.

Okay, I'm going to go through your list and then I'll give you my prediction.

Matt James and Lindsey Arnold.

Okay, so I watched their performance, and I have to say, Matt James was excellent.

There are so many guys, especially really tall guys, like former athletes, who have no rhythm.

Like, it's so painful to watch, and it's just a matter of days before they get sent home.

Matt was excellent i have to say it's so much easier for a boy to be good because in like these

women carry the dance in these traditional dances like the man just like stands there and like twirls while she goes the twirling right and so if your partner's a girl it's actually much easier to like show her off no but he was very good easier to make the dance look good but i think it's harder to stand out yes that's true he was very good like i was super surprised okay cool i feel like even if he's really good, I don't think we're going to have another bachelor winner.

Me neither.

And

they're back the power of bachelor nation is not behind matt james because they like hold him and rachel kirkonnell responsible for chris harrison and they like justice for chris harrison and they like don't like matt and rachel oh so i don't think they're gonna i don't think he's gonna make it very far for that reason alone like most bachelor people make it like a couple weeks in just like even if they're not that great all both on abc the people who watch a bachelor watch dancing with the stars it's like you know the next channel the next night but like the bachelor nation that like got caitlin and got hannah to win they do I do, I just think, I do not think they stand behind matching.

You don't think the energy is there?

No.

Okay.

The Miz and Whitney Carson.

She's one of my favorite pros.

Me too.

And Wiz, what's his name?

Miz.

Miz.

Like, I just personally, it's like one of those things.

I cannot.

You can't?

No, I can't.

Okay.

I can't.

Okay.

Well,

you know.

And I won't.

Hopefully for Whitney, they do pretty good.

I love Whitney too.

Olivia Jade and Val Chermkovsky.

So he's like the most popular, most famous, most followed.

So like this was a very

good pairing for Olivia Jade.

And I did watch her and she was excellent.

Like her footwork was there.

She like looked a little unsure of herself, but it's the first week.

I'm telling you in three weeks, like she's going to be the best dancer.

Like she was so good.

I was shocked.

Wow.

Like, and she like, she was hesitant at times, but like she could do every single move.

So like once she gets more comfortable like being on TV and

with her dancing, like I'm telling you, she was really good.

Oh, that's exciting.

She's making me like want to watch, but I can't sit down and watch.

Literally, what you have to do is, like, every Tuesday morning before the toast, like, just watch your performances on YouTube.

There's no need to watch the other 55.

No, sorry, an hour and 55 minutes because

the packages, the scoring, everything is so fucking drawn out.

Yeah.

And honestly, I have no respect for the people who give scores because they're so inconsistent and they choose favorites and there's no real structure to the scores.

Yeah.

Okay, next we have Jimmy Allen and Emma Slater.

That's cute.

Is Jimmy Allen single?

I don't know.

That's a cute couple.

I wonder, out of everyone here, like, which couple is comprised of two single people?

You know?

Valet Komurakovsky is not, right?

He's.

Yeah, I don't think so.

But I think Olivia Jade is single.

I don't think so.

I think she is.

Oh, you think so?

I think, like, recently.

You think so?

I don't know where I know that from, but I think she is.

Okay.

I don't know.

Is Malora Harden married?

Because I kind of like, I'm living for this moment for her.

Well, she's with Ardem, who's married to Nikki.

Right, right.

Yeah, so they have to be both single.

But I do feel like Dancing with the Stars would pair the two single people, like, who are age-appropriate

with Alan?

Let me go back to the topic.

Sorry.

No, no, no.

Because I do believe Alan's single.

Oh, Amanda Clutes.

Oh, that.

No, she could do better.

Okay.

Yeah,

so

it's one of those shows like I'm very interested in, but like cannot watch.

But I do watch on YouTube.

Yeah, and like I like knowing like what happens.

Sometimes like people share a personal story that's like, you know, touching.

Touching.

So we'll see.

Iman Shumpert and Daniella Kargak.

I don't know who that Daniella is.

Oh, she looks familiar.

Mm-hmm.

Then Martin Cove and Britt Stewart.

Don't know who either of those people are.

Same.

He'll be the first one to go home.

That's the cast.

Very exciting.

It's a really good cast.

So I don't really, like, with Dancing with the Stars, I'm very, like, anxious and excited to hear about the people who get cast.

I don't really care about the partners because I'm not involved in like the Dancing with the Stars universe, but so many people are.

And like, it means the world to them.

Like, who gets paired?

And they think it means a lot.

But I'm putting my money out there.

Like, Cody Rigsby and JoJo Siwa are making it extremely far.

And I think one of them is going to win.

What about Amanda Clutz?

I don't think.

You don't think she has the platform in the sense that she's really famous and she's on the talk and like everyone knows who she is.

I don't think she has hordes of teenagers, you know, waiting up all night and voting 10 times.

Okay.

That's just my opinion.

But I do think she'll make it far.

Okay.

What about you?

I don't know.

Whatever I guess is going to be wrong.

So

I would say Cody Rigsby.

I would agree with that one.

Yeah, JoJosia, was her dance good?

Did you see it?

Yeah, and she's an Abbe Lee dance girl.

Like, she's a good dancer.

Right, right, right, right, right.

I feel like everyone here is a good dancer.

Everyone has some dancing back.

And there's also going to have to be someone who's like not

what you like, not the typical, like, who's like sort of like an underdog song.

It's going to be Malora Hardin, I think.

Which, by the way, if she wins, like I'm 1,000% here for that.

Like, we stand Malora Hardin, Jacqueline from The Bold Type.

The Bold Type.

What was her last name?

Jaclyn.

I don't know.

Carlisle.

Yeah, that sounds right.

I don't know.

Okay, are you ready for our next story, which is a little game that, a little trivia, not trivia, like, well, I'll just explain it.

People's Sexiest Man Alive is open for voting.

And I...

It's about time.

I'm going to.

So we're voting in all the like cringy categories.

Best feet.

There's 20 of them.

Let's go.

Let's get through as many as we can.

Okay.

Because I want to know, and we'll place our votes.

Do they have nominees?

Are we just nominated?

They have not.

Okay, they have nominees.

Sorry.

Oh, this is fun.

Yeah.

Who is the sexiest TV star?

We have Paul Wellesley from Vampire Diaries.

Oh, that's true.

That's still on.

It's not.

And I thought you were talking about Paul Mezcal from Normal People, and he wins.

Right.

So why is he nominated?

Is this article from 2013?

Or is it fresh?

It was fresh.

It was trending this morning that's so weird okay okay jensen accles the boys we i don't know kikoa kikumanu from the white lotus uh he played oh the jewel thief the jewel thief okay so far he has my vote me too jared padalecki from walker and shamar moore from criminal minds

oh flip it around i think i just want to make sure shamar moore 100 really jackie have you ever seen criminal minds baby girl

i'm airdropping you this link so you can place your own votes and I can place my votes.

Shamar Moore is so hot.

And by the way, have you ever seen him on Watch Chapman's Live?

I've never seen Criminal Minds.

Have you ever seen him on Watch Tapping's Live with Phaedra Parks and like literally shipping so hard?

It was the cutest episode.

Shamar Moore.

And by the way, he is the voice behind that TikTok sound.

I'm sorry.

I'm just in a silly, goofy mood.

That's really funny.

Okay, so you'll vote for

who you want.

I voted for Kikoa.

Okay, who had the sexiest song of the summer?

Silk Sonic, Leave the Door Open, Justin Bieber Peaches, Call Me By Your Your Name, Lil Nas X, BTS Butter, and Rao Alejandro Todo de T.

It's going to be Justin Bieber for me or Leave the Door Open.

Okay, so you could vote for Justin Bieber and I'll vote for Silk Sonic Leave the Door Open.

Yeah, because it's more about the song and not the person, right?

Like, which song did I like better?

I liked Peaches.

They said who.

Oh.

No, who had the sexiest song?

Not which sexy person had a song.

It's about the song, and I'm going Peaches.

Okay, I just can't vote for Pete.

I don't even need to swipe through this next one.

Sexiest Summer Olympian.

Caleb Dressel.

Caleb Dressel.

But also Tom Daly, Bobby Fink, Noah Lyles, and Nigel Haustin are nominated, but no.

Sexiest First Time Dad.

I'm crying.

Colin.

Derek Blasberg.

Colin Jost, Joshua Jackson, Henry Golding, Derek Blasberg, Jason Derulo.

Okay, I just want to say I'm really happy for Derek Blasberg for getting nominated, and I just know like this means a lot to him, you know?

Yeah, but you're voting for Colin Jost, obviously.

Of course.

Yeah.

So hot.

I'm voting for for Jason Derulo.

I was thinking about also voting for Joshua Jackson because I think he's so hot.

Yeah, I agree, but I stand by my decision.

I stand by my decision, too.

Who's the sexiest Marvel hottie?

And we don't really fuck with Marvel.

No, so we'll have to know them from something else.

Daniel Kaluya, Black Panther, Tom Holland, Spider-Man, Chris Evans, Avengers.

Good thing they have pictures.

Otherwise, we'd be like, Chris is which, yeah.

Simu Liu, Shang-Chi, and Sebastian Stan, the Falcon and Winter Soldier.

Hmm.

I just feel like like I don't want to vote here.

Like, I don't really know.

I feel like it's not fair for me to vote.

I agree.

I agree.

Sexiest newlywed, not Justin Hartley.

Derek Fisher, Blake Shelton, Alexander Ludwig, or G-Z.

It's going to be like Shelton for me.

Me too.

Remember when he got nominated?

No, he was the sexiest man alive, and it was like the biggest controversy in our country to date.

Literally, here to date.

Like the biggest.

Were the days?

It was bigger than Meg's it.

Who is the sexiest newly single guy?

Simon Baker, Tyler Cameron, Blair Underwood, A-Rod, Bill Gates.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Bill Gates, like...

They're trolling us.

People's gut jokes.

Yeah, like this is not.

Okay, Simon Baker is also the man from Devil Wears Prada who

I think is Billy Bush.

Right.

It's between Tyler Cameron and Blair Underwood.

It's obviously Tyler Cameron because

he's a friend of the Toast.

Because he's a friend of Theo's best friend.

And Theo would actually like literally knock me out if I couldn't.

Oh my God.

I am triggered by the next one.

Next question.

Who is the sexiest real estate king?

Drew Scott, Chip Gaines, Tarik El Musa, Jonathan Scott, Jason Oppenheim, you guys.

Chip Gaines.

Chip Gaines.

There's only one choice.

I'm offended by every other choice.

There's only one choice.

Oh, and this next one is the easiest question I've ever had to answer.

Sexiest TV chef, Ludacris, Gordon Ramsey, Guy Fieri, Eddie Jackson, Anthony from Queer Eye.

Guys,

he's so fucking sexy.

He should be on the cover.

Who took the sexiest vaccine selfie?

This is so stupid.

Everyone's wearing a mask.

Oh, my God.

Sorry, I changed my mind.

It's my mom.

I'm voting for Maluma because he's not wearing a mask.

Oh, yeah.

And he understood the assignment because honestly, everyone looks ugly in their masks, if I'm being honest.

But here's who's nominated.

Hugh Jackman, Aaron Paul, The Rock, Prince William, and Maluma.

Honestly, like all.

Oh, I accidentally voted for The Rock.

I'm voting for Maluma.

I have to say, this next one is insane.

Who's the sexiest housewife's husband?

Harry Hamlin, Todd Tucker, who's married to Candy Burris, Juan Dixon, married to Robin, Bill Aiden, ooh, that's a good one.

Or Mauricio Yumanski.

Mauricio always gets it.

I'm voting for Bill Aiden.

But the thing is,

I'm voting for Bill Aiden.

Like when we're in the middle of the

shows, we're always remarking on how Bill is just

a wonderful husband.

But when I think, like, if I had to steal the husband of any housewife, I tend to, mostly because he's like one of the few Jewish ones, but like, it's it's always Mauricio, like successful real estate agent, like supportive husband, knows lots of celebrities.

She wins them.

I don't know.

Harry Hamlin's really growing on me this season with all of his like

farm to table cooking.

But I voted for Bill Aiden.

Oh, this is a good one.

Who's the sexiest teen soap dream boat?

Jacob Alorty, Cole Sprouse, Darren Barnett, Michael Evans Belling, or Evan Mock from Godsup Girl.

I honestly don't know these many, but it's obviously Jacob Alorty.

Agreed.

Oh, I'm sorry.

No, I totally take it back.

Darren Barnett.

I didn't recognize him at first.

Paxton Hall Yeshida from Never Have I Ever.

I know you don't watch a show.

I told you you would love it.

He's so cute.

Paxton Hall Yashida gets my vote.

Okay, next one.

This is so fun.

Who's the sexiest Peloton instructor?

Dennis, Alex, Ben, Cody, or Matt.

Obviously, you got to go Cody because I've never taken the other people's classes.

I don't really know these people.

Oh, no, Alex.

And I'm just going by looks, and it's going to be like Dennis or Alex for me because I don't know.

I don't know Alex.

He's an amazing instructor.

Fabulous.

Who has the sexiest accent?

Christo Fernandez.

Okay, I don't know any of these people.

Claudia, you know, Aunt Anstead.

And I'm skipping this question.

I refuse.

Okay, you don't want to participate.

Oh, who's the sexiest internet boyfriend?

Now I feel like we're getting to the dumb question.

Okay, but this is a good category.

Timothy Chalamay, Harry Styles, Winston Duke, Keanu Reeves, Pete Davidson.

Those are the internet's boyfriends.

Pete Davidson.

Really?

More than Harry Styles for you?

Yeah.

Huh.

I'm going to.

Because also, I don't really feel like Harry Styles is the internet's boyfriend.

Honestly, it's Noah Centennio who's nominated in the next category.

That's so true.

And it's also Reggie Gene Page.

Yeah.

Who has the sexiest eyes?

Oh, no, sorry.

My skipped one.

Sexiest smile.

Dev Patel, Michael B.

Jordan, Omar Sai, Randall Park, Noah Centennio.

I'm voting for Michael B.

Jodin.

He actually has a great smile.

He does have a great smile.

He's the hottest one in the first one.

Michael B.

Jordan.

Sexiest eyes, Oscar Isaac, Hassan Minaj.

Paul Mezcal voted Chris Hemsworth or Patrick Dempsey.

I feel like I'm taking a teen bop quiz.

Like, what does your crush think of you?

Like, this is so stupid.

I told you it was a stupid story.

Oh, wait, sorry.

Here's a good one.

Sexiest TikToker.

Noah Back, William White, Santaya, Frankie Jonas, oh, Brett Manrock, but I'm going with Noah Back.

Noah Back.

We all saw the D'Amelio show.

Because he is beautiful on the inside and out.

Who had the sexiest silver thirst trap?

Peter.

Oh, it's done.

I'm sorry.

Peter.

Sometimes on it.

Jeff Goldblum, Mark Wahlberg, Chris Maloney, Mark Unsuelos, John Samos.

It's Chris Maloney.

But Dr.

Carlisle, Carlisle Cullen isn't on this, and he posted some sexy silver straps.

And he should have won.

And so I'm submitting my vote for Chris Maloney, and I'm submitted.

Oh, I have to enter my email.

Oh, my God.

I want my vote to matter.

Yeah.

Okay.

Done.

Did I do it?

Yeah.

Okay, that was fun.

Hopefully we'll get to see some results soon.

And I would like to see my.

You know, our votes make a difference.

Fabulous.

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Tuesday and we have dear sisters of Carly and Aaron.

Yeah

sounds so much better with the ponytail.

I know but it's hard to control it.

Yeah, oh yeah the the triangle goes through one of our literally one of my life's big okay, so I have a list of life's regrets not getting into the cop car.

Okay,

what was the other one that you reminded me of?

I need these lists that we make, we need to start a clipboard like keeping them.

We do.

Stories I always repeat like that's my favorite Katie.

But what are my biggest regrets?

I said,

whatever.

I don't even know where I was going with the saw it.

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We thought they didn't matter.

So when we opened our triangles from Amazon, we threw away all the other shit in the box.

But there was actually something really important in there.

And it was a piece of technology in which to hold your triangle.

And we fucked it up.

And we fucked it up.

One of my biggest regrets added to the list.

Okay, our fifth and final story.

Speaking of a piece of technology, some exciting news for Kindle users.

Amazon unveils three new Kindles with bigger screens and longer battery life, even though the battery life lasts like six months.

I don't like a bigger screen.

The Kindle's perfect.

The Kindle is really perfect for my hand size, but I do wonder if there's like a better Kindle out there.

I mean, the one that we're using is like a really old version.

Yeah, we so we use the paper white e-reader, but they announced three new versions of the paper white e-reader, so that's what we like.

It's the paper white, paper white kids edition, and paper white signature edition.

All models get a new processor, a larger 6.8-inch screen, so it's like less stuff on the sides, you know, but maybe it's the same.

No, I'm so happy with my kids.

10 weeks of battery life.

Oh my God, that's crazy.

Warm light support and new USB charging.

10 weeks.

But it looks huge.

It looks like an iPad.

Does it come in multiple sizes?

Can I get the kids one?

I don't know.

Yeah, I wish there was an Amazon store, but I could try them out.

There is, but do they sell Kindles at the Amazon bookstores?

There's one in

Union Square.

There's one in Columbus Circle.

I signed a couple books there back when I was a New York Times best-selling author.

So, yeah, I would like to.

I do believe you can go in and I don't know if they carry the Kindles, but you just call and ask.

I know.

For me, it's just like if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

But, you know, I always want the best and the brightest.

I know, me too.

But I'm like, so.

Which is the new paperwhite.

It looks like ours, but they're saying it's better.

But it looks huge, too.

Or is that just the picture?

No, that's just the picture.

Okay.

Yeah, interesting.

So if you were like on the fence about getting a Kindle, I was just convincing someone to get a Kindle the other day.

When's Prime?

Oh, we were.

We were talking at Christy's bridal shower.

Yeah, and I think I made the sale, but she should wait for the new ones.

When is Prime Day?

Just passed in July.

Oh, fuck.

All right, well, there's always next year.

All right, those are the fast five stories.

It feels though you moderately needed to know them, but I had fun while doing it.

So that's truly all that matters.

It is all that matters.

And now it's time for Dear Toasters because there was no TV on last night that we're going to recap, correct?

Nope.

All right, Dear Toasters, our advice segment.

We do it every week.

And if you ever want to write in, the email is deartoasters gmail.com.

We will always keep you anonymous.

You can change people's names, certain facts to keep those people safe.

First up, dear Jackie and Claudia.

Oh, sorry, Claudia and Jackie.

Oh, I'm not.

I'm not.

You're not helping her.

You're not helping.

So last year during the pandemic, my husband and I decided that we would move ourselves and our three kids to a slightly bigger house with more amenities.

How fabulous.

So we bought a home in a beautiful country club community in Florida in September of last year.

So we just moved in and met a few of our neighbors at a block party earlier this year.

A few weeks ago, one of the neighbors said something to my husband in passing about a barbecue for Labor Day, and my husband says, it sounds good.

We'll be there.

It's like beginning of a Leanne Moriarty book.

Or like a lifetime movie.

Like it was a barbecue.

But the only thing being grilled were the children, you know?

Well, then our neighbor messages me on Facebook a few days later and sends me the invite.

And the party is actually on the Sunday before Labor Day when my son and my husband were flying back in from going to the Georgia game in North Carolina.

So I knew my husband wasn't going to want to go, but I messaged a neighbor and said, okay, we'll try and make it.

The day comes and I feel like laying around in my pool, reading and drinking and not socializing.

So I decided we're not going to go, but I didn't message them.

The next day I get a Facebook message from my neighbor kind of scolding me for not coming to the barbecue that they invited the entire neighborhood to, basically saying that they made all this food and did all this planning and that we didn't show up.

I apologize.

Then he kept laying it on saying how his wife made it nice, et cetera.

Dude, it's a barbecue.

I didn't miss your wedding.

Like, let it go.

Should I say something or just ignore it and make nice the next time we see them?

Also, they live like

catty corner to my house, so we see them often.

I don't know what that means.

Signed in annoyed toaster.

I just want to say, I am on your side, but RCPing to an event and then not going like is rude.

And without like, not saying, like, hey, we can't make it because people do prepare for a certain amount of people.

And as someone who throws events quite often, like, saying you're coming and then not coming is rude.

Yeah, and I mean, personally, I wouldn't follow up and like let someone know I was offended.

And assuming the party was fun, I probably wouldn't have noticed the people who weren't there, but that's just like

that's just on seeing the glass half full.

No, and that's on like having some integrity.

But like, this is a small community.

You're new.

You don't want enemies across the street, catty corner.

So I would maybe like just send a little something.

Just like something that's, because you don't need to do that, but it would just make her feel, you know, special and maybe smooth things over.

You don't want issues.

No,

the more true crime documentaries I watch, the more I realize like you need your neighbors on your side.

Like that was my biggest takeaway from the Chris Watts documentary.

Like that neighbor.

uncovered the whole thing.

Yeah, and the neighbor who was like, Chris has never spoken so much in his life.

Yeah, like neighbors are important.

In a fire, I'm always seeing things on TikTok, like neighbors, like this person's house was on fire, their whole family was asleep inside.

The neighbor came and like literally busted down the door.

This old woman was like, wake the fuck up.

You need your neighbors on your side.

Yeah.

So make nice and don't be too proud.

It's like a neighbor thing.

And like, you do want to be invited to the next one.

And I'm sorry, you were in the wrong.

You don't want to be the outcast neighbor.

No.

Not so early on.

Right.

And like, maybe you'll make friends in other neighborhoods, but you want to be on good terms with the neighborhood.

Like, neighbors look out for each other.

And I think you should make it right.

Send a nice candle or something.

Yeah.

I like Veluspa.

That's my favorite brand of candle.

They have really nice ones in different sizes.

I like

what's it called?

Nest.

Thank you.

She likes the grapefruit flavor.

I like Mokara from Veluspa.

I mean, if I'm just like, you know.

I can't pronounce them right now.

It's like, I think it's Voluspa.

Veluspa.

Veluspa.

If I'm not paying for a candle, I love the one that starts with an F

for Niceti.

Oh, I don't know that one.

And people also like Dipteak, and the best-selling flavor is base, B-A-I-E-S.

Yes, but it's

$1,000.

It's really expensive.

And then you get like a tiny candle.

Yeah.

Anyways, so I'm just

candle's always such a nice thing to send.

By the way, little life hack.

One time years ago, somebody got me a Diptyque linen spray.

So it's the fragrance of the best-selling candle, but it's like a huge bottle of you're supposed to spray it on your linens, but like when I have company, I spray it all through my house and in the hallway.

So like my house smells nice.

And it's lasted me for years.

It's like so much better than a candle, and it's really fragrant.

That's a good hack for yourself.

Oh, yeah, I'm just sharing, but not for gifts.

No, no, I'm just sharing.

That's nice.

Thanks.

I also, my favorite nest flavor is ocean spray and sea salt.

Not mine, grapefruit.

Cool.

Next up, dear toasters, one of my college best friends is getting married this winter.

We're super close throughout college.

We had all the same friends, we're on the same sports team, were roommates one year, hung out in the summers, etc.

Senior year, things got a little weird when she started dating a creepy, over-religious, overly religious older guy who kind of drove a wedge between us.

After college, I moved to Arizona and she moved back to our Midwest home state.

We stayed in touch, but we are definitely less close and just busy with our own lives.

She invited me to her bacherette and I went, assuming I wasn't in the bridal party since she hadn't said anything, thinking maybe it was just going to be like a small party or she was going to have her sisters stand up with her, etc.

I only found out mid-bacherette weekend that she is having seven girls, including two girls from college who I barely remember her even speaking to.

My feelings are hurt and I'm a bit confused.

Do I say something or ask why I wasn't included?

Do I even go to the wedding?

Other people close to the situation have commented on how weird it is that they think I'm not in it as well.

To add insult to injury, she didn't give me a plus one because I'm not engaged or married, even though I've been dating my boyfriend for two years, for two years.

And I'd be traveling to the wedding.

Love the show.

You guys kill me.

Please advise.

This is tough because, like, I don't know.

Because you're not going to like what we have to say.

I know, because like it's her wedding and it's just like not about you.

And like, if I would thought I was close to someone and they didn't make me a bridesmaid when like I really thought I would have been, then that's the message received.

Like, okay, we're not as close as I thought I am.

Like, I'll just come to your wedding as a guest.

But that's what, like, you said yourself that you guys aren't that close.

Like, you drifted away starting senior year, and now you don't even live near each other.

And you said, like, you went on the bachelorette party, assuming you're not a bridesmaid.

The only thing that's now bothering you is that there are other people who she wasn't close with in college who are in the bachelorette party.

But you don't know that they might be keeping in touch.

Yeah.

I would just say message received.

Yeah.

And when you're not in the bridal party and like most people institute a no-ring, no bring policy, like no ring no bring i did yeah you have to and it's hard it's really hard but you have to like be consistent about it you can't say this person oh they're two years this person is a year and a half right but they seem closer and they're having trouble like and at this point you're not in the bridal party you're just a guest like you're just following guest rules like It probably sucks.

And, but maybe you're also just a guest.

You're not in the bridal party.

You don't have to go.

You apparently have to travel.

Like, she said, she sent you a message.

You've received it.

You don't have to go.

You know where you stand.

You don't have to go.

That's the silver lining for you.

But is this like if you don't go, then like you're officially taking your friendship like down like two notches.

So, or do you want to do that?

But yeah, I don't think the whole boyfriend thing is a big deal, even though it sucks.

A lot of, especially in COVID, like we have so many like capacity, you know, time limits.

Yeah.

No ring, no bring is a rule that is tough, but I did have it at my wedding and I stand by it like 100%.

It's there for a reason.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

You just need some sort of standard to apply to everybody's relationship.

Or else it's just like a free free.

In some instances, it definitely is harsh.

You know, some people have been together for so long and whatever, but you know.

No, that's also the crazy thing.

Like in movies, when it's like, I have a wedding, would you be my plus one?

It's like, how free Willie is the bride?

Like, I always think that.

Like, oh, I went as a date with someone to a wedding.

What?

Yeah, no, like, or I met the day for the wedding, like, on Tinder.

Like, I'm.

It's like, who.

Was this a 600-person wedding?

No, I totally agree.

I always think that's so weird.

So weird.

And especially if you're a bridesmaid.

Sometimes all the bridal party gets plus ones, even if they're not in a relationship.

But then it's like, if you're a bridesmaid, you're busy the whole time.

You can't deal with

Tinder date.

Yeah, totally.

I agree.

That's a plot hole.

Totally.

All right, next one is the final one, and it's a little long.

Hi, Claude and Jack.

First of all, everyone just wants to disrespect me today.

No, they said, congrats on the Bebe news, Jackie.

I'm so excited for you in the family, sending you best wishes for an easy pregnancy.

Thank you so dearly.

Okay, I've been married for almost two years to my PGM husband that I've been with for 12 years since high school.

Before we got married, we talked about changing my name to his and initially I wanted to hyphenate my name.

For some background, I have two sisters and we're all really close to my dad and we're a close-knit family in general.

So needless to say, I'm proud of my last name and it means a lot to me.

After talking to my then fiancé, I could tell that he really wanted me to fully take on his last name and drop mine.

I'm a bit of a people pleaser, so I did just that and I moved my last name and added it to my middle name.

Ever since I did that, I've always felt weird about my new last name.

When I see packages or go to the doctor and have to say my new last name, it just feels like a part of me is missing.

It also doesn't help that my dad and my family gave me a hard time for completely dropping my last name.

I've recently looked into what I could do to change my name yet again so I can add back my last name and hyphenate it.

And basically I'd have to file a petition with the court, get it approved, and then update all my shit, like a driver's license, social security, passport.

I talked to my husband about it and to be honest, and I talked to my husband about it, to be honest, about how I was feeling, and he obviously was not thrilled.

He said he ultimately wants me to do whatever is going to make me feel like me, but that he's also bummed because he thought I had taken his name and was proud of it.

My question is, what the hell should I do?

If I could go back in time and 100% hyphenate my name, if there's any way I can change it now, should I?

Should my thoughts, should my husband's thoughts about it upset me?

Would love to know your thoughts, a confused toaster.

I'm confused.

No, I'm not confused.

I don't know what to tell you, honestly, because it's clearly very personal decision.

And like, I

did not change my name, and I feel weirdly weirdly about it because in so many ways like I'm very traditional but with the whole last name thing I'm just like not into it at all.

It just takes so much paperwork.

And I am who I am and like we're all girls and like we have on our dad's side like we have boy cousins and we have a half brother but I don't know I just feel like it's

my responsibility to carry on the Austrian name.

Like I'm in no rush.

I think where it becomes and I think where most people get comfortable with their married name is when they have kids because then you're like we are the Kleinbergs or whatever, you know?

Yes.

No, I agree.

I haven't made moves on changing my name, but my plan was always, you know, move my last name to my middle name, take my husband's last name.

And

I will do that eventually.

I'm just lazy.

But I understand how you might be feeling.

I don't know that like doing a hyphen,

like why can't you just why do you have to do it legally?

Why can't you just have everyone call you

your middle and last name?

Like yeah, that's true because there's two things going on here.

Legally changing your name and socially changing your name are two very different things.

Like, if it's your Facebook name and your Instagram name and, you know, like the name you've signed on forms, like,

that's pretty good.

Yeah.

Like, for a while, I was going around like Claudia Ashre Saffer, but, like,

I don't know.

I'm struggling with the same thing.

I don't feel like I can give advice here.

I'm struggling with the same thing, too, but also because, like, art, like

Jackie O, that's like my it's a branding thing too.

Like, when what I've literally worked for the last 10 years, like, get people to know my name, I'm not about to just change it.

Yeah, but I actually have so much respect for influencers who change it like pretty immediately.

Well, sometimes and then you really do everyone comes around.

Sometimes it is best for your brand.

Like Lauren Lane, Lauren Bushnell was fabulous too, but Lauren Lane is like meant to be an influencer.

But like I was following

Arielle, what was Nahmani when she got married and she went charness immediately and it took, I was like, this is so weird.

And now I couldn't even remember almost her last name.

No, like Rach Parcell, like she, her and her sisters, her sister.

Scala.

Her sisters are in Parcell.

Oh, my God.

That's so true.

I always think of them as the Parcell family, but they're not.

No, they're not.

So it's actually like.

I feel like either, like, my friend Ana changed her name right after, like, immediately Facebook legally.

And now to me, she's Ana Am Slam.

Like, I don't think anything of it.

Yeah.

But I feel like if you teeter, like, I don't know, what should I do?

Like, then it makes it harder.

Yeah.

So like, you gotta rip the band-aid off.

Or not, if you don't want to do it.

Yeah.

But I don't feel like we have to do it anymore.

Like, it's the 21st century.

Like, I'm not.

You don't have to do anything, but like, you know, clearly your husband feels some type of way about it.

And

I don't know, just

I wouldn't go through the process of changing it again because that's just a lot of work.

I know, I just feel like legally, like, it doesn't matter what your name is.

Like, Legal Nazis' name is Montero.

Like, nobody knows that.

If they, like, do the hyphen, then I guess the kids will have that name, the hyphen name.

Got it.

Got it, got it, got it.

But the hyphen doesn't make me feel any better about anything.

And also, like, this is what I'm really struggling with.

Like, kids who had hyphen and names in school, like, were weird.

I'm sorry.

Like, why do you have three names?

Like, it is weird.

I'm sorry.

And I know that's mean.

And now, as an adult, I understand exactly why the parents did what they did.

100%.

But that doesn't mean that their life as children is going to be easy.

It's an identity crisis.

Yeah, no, I totally get it now, but like, as a kid, I'm like, ha ha, you have three names.

Like, that was just what it was.

Like, hyphenated kids were weird.

I'm like, sorry, I don't make the rules.

It still doesn't make your name go more than another 20 years.

Like, you still won't pass down your name.

It's just, okay, we have 20, 30 years till it expires.

Yeah.

Until that kid gets married.

Yeah.

It's not like a wife is taking the hyphen.

Right, right.

So next grandkids take the hyphen.

I feel like the name of it, like the naming industry, it's a problem.

I think a lot of modern women are facing.

I think about it all the time.

Yeah.

Because like I want to be the software family like when we have kids, but like I'm Claudia Ashray and I'm sorry, that's not changing.

Claude, I feel you.

Does that make me like a bad wife?

Like, because I love being Claudia Ashray.

Like, she's the best.

Her Google search results may not be great, but she's a really good person.

She has a good heart.

She does.

And like, I don't know.

I just want to be her.

I'm sorry.

I don't think Claudia Soffer has those things.

I don't know.

It's not.

I just don't know her.

I know.

I don't want to say anything negative about Claudia Soffer.

I'm sure she's a great person, too.

I just personally feel so attached to Claudia Ashray.

Like, I don't think I'll honestly, if I'm being honest, like, ever change it.

Okay.

So I can't give advice here.

I'm just commiserating with your girlfriend.

I feel you.

I'm like, I really can't give advice.

I'm in no position to give advice either because I'm still in like this limbo.

Right.

No.

And it's like you're, I think you're in a limbo.

If you don't change your name immediately after you get married, you're in this limbo till you have kids.

But like people who change their Instagrams like the day after they get married, like I'm like, it's smart.

I'm sorry.

Like for brand building.

It's smart.

Like you already start to associate the name.

Even when I'm watching a TV show and like someone gets married and you know, they like, by the way, you should watch A Place to Call Home when you finish downtown.

It will.

I started it.

I didn't think it was that great.

But now it's so fucking good.

Okay.

Anyways, she was like Sarah Nordman, Sarah Bly, and I was just, you know, it sticks.

It doesn't take that long before it sticks.

Yeah.

Okay.

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Welcome back to the morning toast.

I am so excited to be sitting down with two iconic queens, iconic toasters, and an iconic moment happening right now, you guys.

It's Carly and Aaron.

Hello, Carly and Erin.

Hi.

Welcome to New York.

Or as Taylor Swift says, welcome to New York.

Welcome to New York.

Honestly, incredible.

You guys are so LA.

Like,

I cannot picture you in New York.

I mean, in what sense?

Well, just that you live there.

Just that you live there.

Like, you're always like, you know, there.

Yeah.

Okay, okay, I get it.

Not like your vibe at all.

Like, I haven't gone to fake boobs yet.

No, but I just associate you guys with LA.

Neither of you are actually from there.

No.

No.

Full transplants.

Is anyone actually from LA?

I don't know.

I hate LA.

I don't know how you guys live there.

Like, it's like kind of the vibe.

Is it?

Yeah.

Did you meet your fiancé in LA?

Yeah.

Oh, that's nice.

Yeah, it's crazy, though, because his parents actually grew up in the town next to me.

In Massachusetts.

Yeah.

We were like rival towns.

That's crazy.

So Friday nightlights, East Hill and West Hill.

I know.

But then when he was like 10 months old, they moved him to Park City.

So he grew up in Utah.

So you are from Massachusetts and you are from Nebraska.

I'm from Nebraska, yes.

My little corn husker.

Every corn husker.

Do you eat a lot of corn?

Honestly, not really.

Corn is so good.

Yeah, I mean, like, it's fine if it's around, but I'm not like requesting corn.

You're not?

I am.

I think corn is like the best.

It honestly is.

It's so good.

It's actually elote.

It's really good in LA, too.

Yeah.

They have like street corn.

That's why I moved there.

Oh, you know, I'm more of like a very basic on-the-cop girl.

Like grilled, little butter, salt.

Like, I don't like, people are making like a whole meal out of corn when it's really a side dish.

Yeah, elote is really yummy.

Canned corn is also like a little sweet green.

It's so good.

Yeah.

Really delish.

Okay, so can you guys tell me, I mean, I know so much about you guys because like I watch your vlogs and I listen to your podcast, but

you guys have like been in the game for a while.

How old are you guys?

30.

Okay, I'm 27.

It's fine.

I'm like, we're so old.

Like,

kill us.

But how did you guys get, how did you guys meet each other?

We met because of Vine.

So when Vine was around back in our day.

Vine girlies.

Yeah, we are Viners.

Oh, my God.

I was obsessed with Vime.

Oh, my God.

It wasn't.

It was the best.

It was the best.

Do you think it's better than TikTok?

No.

I think TikTok is so much better.

Obviously, my heart will always be with Vine because I'm not sure.

TikTok is so much better.

But yeah, we met through Vine.

And you guys grew platforms on Vine first.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then I don't even remember exactly how we met.

I think it was because we, okay, so on Vine, even like with TikTok, you kind of like form little communities of people.

We didn't form like a hype house or anything.

Right.

On a smaller scale.

Yeah.

We were just forming friendships.

And I think that we had mutual friends.

And and then Carly started like watching like we started following each other

and I started following her because at the time she had like bright pink hair and looked like Haley Williams.

Oh my god you do look like Haley Williams.

Thank you so much.

That's such a compliment and honestly so on brand for you guys like emo night we need to talk about

yes we do and she would like make like cute little like paramore vines I was like oh I like this you did I'm sure I saw them like you don't understand I was obsessed with vine and I'm obsessed with TikTok too.

Oh yeah.

Do you guys talk?

Like you're you're always coming up on my for you pages.

She's like a talker.

A talker.

Oh, oh, yes.

I was like, I can talk sometimes.

I'm kind of nervous right now.

Yeah, I love making TikTok.

It's literally like the greatest.

I don't really like making them.

I like watching them.

Yeah.

Same.

Because none of mine get good engagement.

Like, everyone thinks I'm annoying on TikTok.

I can't get out of it.

Like, I just can't find success.

It's hard.

I mean, it's weird because sometimes something you don't even care about will blow up on the For You page.

You spent no time on.

No.

Yeah.

Well, I think the one sometimes you come up on my For You page, but the one one that made me really lol was the Reba one you did with Theo.

Yeah, that was that actually one did do very well for me.

If you just knew like how much I thought about TikTok like every second of every day and like for only me like 120,000 followers isn't nothing, but it's not a lot.

And like for that to be my legacy on this earth, like that's so upsetting.

It is.

Like it's nothing.

Are you someone who watches it for like hours before bed?

Hours.

I look up, it's noon.

I open my eyes, it's midnight.

Like it's crazy.

Like the time just flies.

I know.

It's actually set aside to do it.

It's a problem.

Well, we now, we're like, okay, should we lay on the couch and watch another show or should we get in bed and watch TikTok?

By the way, that's a really, really good point.

Yeah.

It's hard for me to watch shows because I want halfway through.

I'm like, I wonder what's happening back to the show.

It's so bad.

Totally.

It's so bad.

It's so good.

Okay, so you were Viners, you met on Vine, and then like when the day that Vine like ended,

literally happened in like two days.

What were you guys thinking?

Because was that your full-time jobs at the time?

Well, we had kind of stopped posting on the platform before it died because it just kind of shifted and it started getting more really bad humor.

Like so bad.

Oh, popular.

Page Vines.

Do you remember?

Lily Ponds and Oh yeah yeah yeah I do like just kind of like the fake

girlfriend.

Yeah totally.

Yeah.

Fake girlfriend.

Yeah.

We're like this is just like not for too weird now.

Yeah.

And at that point we had already lived in LA and we had started making YouTube videos.

We did a series called Vining and Driving where we would like

fake interview other vine friends, but we played these like

narcissists that like would just like make people do stuff for us.

I don't really know if we were playing characters, but at the time, probably not, honestly.

Yeah,

so that's kind of how we got into YouTube, but so we had already like kind of shifted and then we were like, oh, well, Vine kind of sucks.

Now, I also was still working like a full nine-to-five job.

Oh, you were?

Yeah.

Where?

I worked for my best friend's dad.

I did like accounting stuff.

And I was able to keep the job remote when I moved to California.

Oh, that's so interesting.

So I just went through it when I was able to like pay rent.

So did all the vlog squad members meet pretty much from the Vine days?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That is so interesting.

We'd be out filming with friends and Aaron's boss would call and she'd be like, I'm just at the grocery store.

I'll be back.

Hustling, baby.

And like, how old were you when you officially quit your job and did this full-time?

24, I want to say.

Oh, wow.

Maybe.

It was in 2017.

So however old I was then.

Got it.

It's like four years ago.

Yeah.

I don't have that long ago.

I think it was 2017.

Yeah.

I think so.

That's crazy.

I could not tell you.

You could have told me.

In 2012, I'd be like, sure.

I quit wearing one of those t-shirts that has like the bathing suit printed on it.

Oh, yeah.

Like, you have like the fake body.

Yeah, I had like a full bone panic.

Oh, yeah, it was the worst.

I was just watching her.

I was like, good job.

Because it's always so hard, like, leaving jobs when you're connected to the people so closely.

And, like, when you're taking a risk.

Like, I'm sure everyone is like, when I graduated college and like didn't get a job, everyone was like, she's a delinquent.

Like, no.

And, like, because when you're doing something new, like, people don't understand it.

And then you're like the crazy girl who's taking a risk and everyone in your hometown's talking about you.

That was like literally Vine.

We'd like vine meetups and people are like, what the fuck are you talking about?

You're meeting people online meeting strangers.

Oh, girl, 100%.

And we're like, yeah, it's normal.

Honestly, whenever I think about you two, like I cannot believe that you work together and you're not related.

Because like for me and Jackie, like no matter what, like at the end of the day, we're family and like we have to work things out.

We'll never like break up, you know, because we're sisters and we'll make, we'll figure it out in the end.

And we don't really get sick of each other because we're sisters and like that's just what like family does.

Hold on.

So I'm in awe of people who work together successfully and don't break up and don't like want to kill each other.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's really interesting.

I feel like we're just so similar in a way where we're both kind of go with the flow.

Yeah.

Neither one of us is like causing an issue ever.

It's funny too because we'll do like Q ⁇ A sometimes.

People are like, what's your biggest fight?

And we're like, I don't know.

Do you fight?

No.

Okay, that's good.

Not really.

I mean, we'll like.

We both also hate confrontation.

Just ignore it.

The construction workers are obsessed with us.

Like, they're constantly trying to get us our attention.

And we won't give in.

We will not give in.

I'll wave if they need me to give in.

Yeah, show a titty.

Whatever you got to do.

I will, if they do.

If it comes to that.

Okay, yeah.

Okay, so back to you guys working together.

Yeah.

It's like, I feel like it's pretty easy.

I handle most of like the business stuff and Carly likes doing all the editing and like those kinds of things.

It's important to delegate.

Like

everyone has their responsibilities.

And just to kind of know your roles.

Yeah.

And then if like someone's doing like all the work, like the other person's like feeling real, like this, it just gets really bad when the responsibilities are not delegated properly.

Has that happened to you ever um no in the beginning though like when we first started like we we didn't have good footing like i think that we were all of us like we were either one of us was doing all of it at one time then the other one was doing all of it at one time and now we have like like a clear delineation like what the responsibilities are and like we like wrote it out when we launched a toast after the morning breath was canceled and we were like this is your job this is my job and it's been the same ever since because you just don't want to feel like you're doing more than the other person right you don't want to feel like you're not being valued and so like it's important to communicate but it's also so awkward yeah totally there's definitely times where it's like, well, I don't know.

I never feel like that's like, no, I don't either.

I feel like we just know what we're doing in terms of working.

No, you've got to like downpath too.

So you do the podcast, you do YouTube.

What do you like better?

It's so hard to do.

It's so hard to say because we've been doing YouTube for so long now.

And I think over the pandemic.

Here's a better question.

What makes more money?

Depends.

It depends.

I mean, we make most of our money with brand deals, I would say, on YouTube.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's a big part of it.

Right now I like our podcast over YouTube, I think, because it's not on makeup.

What'd you say?

Because you don't have to put on makeup?

Well, we don't.

Well,

I don't really wear makeup ever anymore.

I feel like it's so beautiful.

Yeah, just naturally.

Not everyone has perfect freckles and eyebrows.

Got it.

I know it's so annoying.

It's so annoying.

I think that's what was like kind of like our

strong thing in the beginning of YouTube is people were like, oh, they're not like all done up.

And like, right.

Like, we were literally just like relatable trash girls.

Right.

More authentic.

And I feel like it was.

Yeah, and it was kind of before the Emma Chamberlains,

who were just like perfect regardless.

Or yeah, or just being completely themselves and just being messy and whatever.

And I feel like most YouTubers at the time were very done up and like, here's my beauty routine.

Yeah, yeah.

Which is fine, but we're just not.

It's not it.

Yeah.

So I know you are like super into the emo scene.

Obviously, we're going to talk about emo night.

And I know your husband's like a big into it.

Did you guys connect initially as emo girls?

Like, are you an emo girly at heart?

Oh, a hundred percent.

That's what I was like, my character's micro energy.

Like, it's crazy.

Wait, really?

Yes.

But do you think it's because you know that about us?

No, I'm telling you.

Like, you're just, like, I can't explain it.

And I can't put my finger on it, but you are emo girlies.

But, like, in a good way?

Of course.

Okay.

Like, an embarrassing way?

No, in, like, a Haley Williams way.

You really, now that, now that you said it, like, I cannot look at you and like now.

Oh, my God.

Thank you so much.

She's so everything that.

I know.

Of course.

It's funny because I don't feel like I look like her at all.

I just feel like my hair did at the time.

And now we're both blonde.

Well, I think she's blonde anymore.

No, it's, you really do look alike.

Oh, my God, thank you.

No, it's a compliment.

She's so pretty.

Okay.

Have you seen Carly with pink hair?

No.

I'll have to show you after.

Because you'll be like, what?

Have you ever dyed your hair a crazy color?

Yeah, I did.

Well, I went like platinum blonde.

You did.

The worst decision of my life.

Fried my hair, and then I went purple.

Oh, wow.

Overtone has like this.

I don't know if you've ever heard of this.

She's like, oh, wow.

I know.

Purple is brave.

I know.

Luckily, it wasn't like super bright, so that was good.

Is this your natural hair color?

Yes, I toned the last time I toned it was last November.

Is that a rude question to ask?

I feel like like it is.

To asking someone how old they are.

No, I think I'm the same where like I don't really have a filter and like no, out of control.

Yeah.

Out of control.

But I always ask people questions.

You guys like, you get it, right?

Like I'm not going to be able to do that.

I don't care.

Okay, so we need to talk about emo night because I swear to God, it was the best night of my life.

And I was like so unwell, like lurid tripping around the stage.

Like I was just like so excited, full of adrenaline.

Ben, honestly, like he won't even look at me.

Like he thinks he's too good for me because he's like, because he's like.

He's a world famous DJ now.

Okay, so just to give people some context, it's your fiancé's like event, event, right?

Yes.

So he throws, it's called Emo Night LA, but you do it all over.

Yeah, he does it all over the country.

I want to say it's like 20 plus cities now.

They've also done some festivals overseas, like in London and stuff.

And so the night is just like scheduled full of awesomeness.

Like you guys did a set, Ben did a set.

There was a performer afterwards.

And it's just like a real celebration of the emo-ness in all of us.

Yeah.

Genre.

And it's like Avro Levine.

It's not even like particularly 90s.

It's like really all emo music.

Totally.

But they really like keeping it current too.

Like at the LA shows, like they have lots of

what is it called?

Like hip-hop, like emo, you know, like little peep, like his.

Like Machine Gun Kelly.

Yes.

He really like keeps, it's like current emo.

Yeah.

So like they try to keep the genre like going and I feel like a lot of like elder emos don't really appreciate that because they're like that's not emo, but it's elder emo.

I actually that's a really good point because I think that like the

one artist like responsible for ushering emo into the 21st century and they don't get enough credit is five seconds of summer.

Okay, are you back heart?

I agree.

Jet back heart, I agree.

Cause I've got a jet black.

It's hard.

I literally rock out with my cock out.

It's so good.

And you know, me and Ben.

We've been to emo night.

You're lying.

No, I don't

understand.

I'm obsessed.

They're so emo.

They're so emo.

They're so emo.

You'll have to come to LA.

I have to.

That's why you'll see all the like emos like come out.

Oh my God.

Okay, because me and Ben,

me and Ben drove two hours, like 10 years ago, to go see Five Seconds of Summer.

And this was like when they opened for One Direction, and they're like, they were like really like for teenagers.

And so me and Ben get to the concert.

It's like people with their parents.

Like it's me and Ben are the oldest people there.

And like the tickets were so cheap because it was all kids.

We were like sitting in the first row.

It was the best night of our lives.

They're so talented.

Yeah, I agree.

It's so nice to talk to people who like can appreciate Five Seconds of Summer.

Did you like One Direction too?

Obsessed.

Okay, good.

Because they're like the pop-punk version of One Direction, basically.

Well, one of like my kind of reasons why I feel like I'm better than everyone else is because when I was in college, I went to MetLife Stadium and I saw Five Seconds of Summer open up for One Direction and it was

pretty iconic.

There were no words, like honestly.

Better than words.

Better than words.

That was beautiful, Erin.

Thank you so much.

So Ianite was just like, I can't really even explain.

And that's like becoming really popular now.

I'm seeing all over TikTok these like themed nights out, like Taylor Swift night.

And I think it's so brilliant.

It's such a good idea, like, I can't believe I didn't think of it first.

It's like the best business idea ever.

I'm like, I can't, I don't ever want to go out again if it's not email themed night.

Yeah, I know you just have to go to every city

You can do like a bucket list Yes,

but I would say like New York is always so fun.

It's particularly hard to get artists right now just because like everyone's starting to get back on the road and like COVID and all of those things But they've done some really cool stuff at Webster before it was the best night ever.

And you guys did a set.

Yeah.

And like how many times a year do you do a set?

Like seeing you guys up there, there, I was like, you guys are just killing.

You guys look so cool.

Thank you so much.

I was just like, this is like everything.

Like, you guys look sick.

You dress the part lately.

Thank you so much.

It's funny because, well, I don't know if you know, but she met TJ.

Like, we went to Emo Night before she even knew TJ.

Oh, my God.

Is that where you met?

Sort of.

So TJ's her fiancé.

Yeah.

She's a COVID bride.

She doesn't want to talk about him.

I don't.

So we had gone to like one emo night and then obsessed by the first one.

Yeah, of course.

So friends, well because friends were like oh you guys will love this night you have to come you're so emo so it was like our friends who already lived in LA and the party had been happening I want to say for like six months so it had like kind of just started and so we went we had like the best time it was actually funny because we had just gone to the Taylor Swift

1989 tour like the night before and Harley still had on her like glow wristband wait I don't remember this story you had on your glow wristband and TJ had actually gone we obviously didn't know this at the time but he had gone the night before we went.

I love a man who respects Taylor Swift.

Oh, I know.

So important.

Why do you think I married him?

The only reason.

Are you guys married?

We legally married just because we thought like the handmaid's tale was going to happen.

That was the best thing.

Yeah.

And our wedding is in a few months.

So, also, your drink was very strong.

I started inviting literally everyone I saw to the wedding.

I invited Ben actually.

You did?

You guys are booked though.

I'll be there.

So you've already got vocal.

Also, you have to officiate here.

I hope that's okay.

Sure.

Do you need me to sing an a cappella acoustic version of toast?

Yes.

Okay.

Oh,

Do you guys sing?

No.

You don't?

I feel like you would.

No.

Every

YouTuber can sing, so it's like fine.

They can figure it out.

James Charles can do it.

Yes.

I mean, every YouTuber literally has.

You guys, I feel like have met so many famous people like through the vlog squad.

Like, who's the most famous person you've met?

Probably Justin Bieber.

Were you in the car for that segment?

Yeah.

It's so funny because we got like paparazzi'd after.

And like, we don't really think about it like that, but then like, I didn't even know that happened.

And then I had friends sending me pictures every day.

happening what is the selection process like obviously there's so many members in the vlog squad like but you know only three people can find the Tesla if someone's sitting in the front seat totally who what's a selection process like it depends on the bit like I feel like a lot of the times like there's some people who can be like very overwhelming if it like around Justin Bieber like it could be really overwhelming where like we're just kind of like chill.

Yeah, you guys are like, in my opinion, the most low-key members.

Thank you.

Honestly, I want to say I'm a Carly, I'm an Aaron, but like, I'm kind of a Zane.

That's fair.

I feel that too.

I just like am.

I'm always just like the drunkest.

Oh, yes.

And like center of attention.

Yeah.

If I had to put a finger on like which one I am.

But I'm also like a Carly and Aaron like fusion.

Carly Eren like Zane fusion.

Well probably like Zane is your age.

Actually Zane is 28.

Okay, same thing.

Turning 29, I think, in November.

I'm still 27, I guess.

So I feel like to me like when you get a little older.

Yeah.

I think we went out of our Zane phase.

Well, you were.

I was a Zane at one point.

Actually, I was

all I think we're all a Zane.

Yeah, at some point, yes.

I know, I know.

It's like everyone goes through like a Zane phase.

Yeah, so you guys have been on the internet for like ever now.

Do you feel like you go back and watch some of your old content and like want to die?

Every day.

Okay.

Kind of.

I don't.

Well, sometimes.

Even like videos we film, like, I don't want to watch that one.

Like a full Johnny Depp.

Current ones.

Yes, you mean.

Especially over the pandemic, because we filmed separately and we posted at the time three videos a week.

I remember that.

I watched that.

Oh my God, please don't watch that.

By the way, me and Jackie, like, we cannot talk about Zoom toast.

Like, it's filled with trauma.

Yes.

And we just, we don't even acknowledge.

Like, if she knows I brought it up, she'll be mad.

Like, we don't talk about it.

Would you rather so bad?

Is it like, you'd rather just not even do it if it's over Zoom?

Well, so the thing is, is like, we, so our episodes are video and audio, but most of the people listen as podcasts.

So like, the video is always just like an added bonus for us because we like to like, you know, be on camera.

Yeah.

And so during the pandemic, at first we were just recording audio, which is easy from home.

We have great whatever.

Totally.

And everyone's like, we want to see your face.

And we're like, you know what?

Like, we have to make the most of the pandemic.

So we're like, we'll record on Zoom.

Yeah.

And like, I don't know, I can't explain why just like everything about it was like disgusting.

No, it is.

I fucking hate Zoom.

I have so much trauma from that time.

Like, I don't, I will not hop on a Zoom call.

Like, I'm a Skype girl now.

Like, I just can't.

Call me on the phone, please.

You know, like, FaceTime me.

Like, I cannot go on Zoom.

I can't talk to the platform.

It just seems to me that so many people are still having to use it.

yeah but you guys also did a really good job like with the editing and all that

with the zoom episodes we kind of had to figure it out i feel like we did zoom for like a few months and then we're like okay we can actually just like be on zoom but then film it with a different camera so that way it doesn't look like we're right that's the key it's the key it was like such a i became a producer we both became producers

how do you guys continue to come up with new ideas for your pod for for your um youtube videos i don't know i think that's why we are enjoying the podcast more because we have been doing it for so long long.

We posted three times a week.

Like it's always so easy when we're just like around our group of friends because the content happens itself.

And that's kind of what our videos have always been.

I feel like during the pandemic, they shifted to more of like a traditional YouTube like,

what is my boy?

My boyfriend styles me like those kind of like cheesier videos.

So that was kind of traumatic.

But now it's really, really hard, especially because during the pandemic, we did that for like a year plus.

Right.

And we're just like, we wound up dropping a video.

So now we only post two times a week.

You know, sometimes it's better, like

quantity over quantity.

Yeah, agreed.

It's just tough on YouTube, though, because I feel like if you don't post for maybe even like two weeks, no, you're irrelevant.

People just don't care.

Yeah.

I don't know how true that is, but it just feels like that.

I just feel, well, that's like the thing.

It's like a rat race in the space.

It's like we podcast every day.

I'm like, I think we should move to twice a day.

Like, because you just want to be like the most current.

Oh yeah, please do.

I want to know how like you.

It's actually like so toxic on your mental health to like constantly be keeping up and you see everyone else doing more videos and they hire editors and they have a whole team.

So you want to do that too.

But it's like, when can I live?

I know.

I know.

Can I live?

I know.

It's also people being like, YouTube isn't relevant anymore.

Instagram is relevant.

Oh, that's moronic.

That shit doesn't bother me because those people are so jealous of us.

I know.

It's really funny too because everyday comments.

What are you going to do when this ends?

Like, why don't you get a real job?

People have been asking that since I graduated college.

Oh, yeah.

I think we're here to stay.

Oh, yeah.

No, you guys are good.

It's like, do you ask people when their job is going to be over?

No, it's moronic.

Like, when are you getting fired for being lazy, Susan?

Yeah.

Do you guys keep up with YouTuber drama at all?

Because you're like YouTubers and like you, I feel like you're always like filming with other YouTubers.

We 100% keep up with YouTuber drama.

Okay, so like, what are your thoughts on this like frenemies thing?

Because that's like the biggest thing.

Oh, my God, here we go.

And also, like, you guys, like, have met and hung out with Trish because she used to date someone in the vlog squad, right?

Yes.

Yes.

I guess.

I'm just not surprised that it happened.

Yeah, I guess it's a lot of fun.

I think it was kind of a thing for us where we were like,

this is going to go wrong at some point.

Yeah.

And

we were kind of just waiting for that to happen.

Do you know Ethan?

No.

Like, we comes out of nowhere.

Like, who is he?

I never heard of him.

Well, Carly, you had, like, watched their podcast.

Yeah, I used to really like H3.

I just, and they always

had him and his wife, Ela, yes.

And they did interviews with like Bo Burnham and comedian, like, Bill Burr and stuff like that.

So I always really liked them, but yeah, I don't really know him at all.

No, it's just watching some podcasts.

That was the craziest drama.

Oh, my God.

Totally.

it was really mind-blowing no i was like living for every single moment of it

what are you guys' thoughts on jeffree star

i don't know i don't really understand has jeffree ever filmed the vlog squad um i think yeah david and jason filmed with him a little bit they wanted it was just like a vlog i think is that when he was with trisha because i remember seeing that vlog yeah they were still friends and jason was dating trisha and they went to jeffree's i don't know if they ever I think they filmed, but like they never posted it.

I think they posted like a little bit in his video, but I remember they did like a bit more, I thought.

Maybe, but I don't, we never met him.

And then, like, the Shane Dawson of it all.

Like, were you guys watching that documentary that they were doing?

Like, Shane and Jeffrey?

Yes.

Oh, so good.

Makeup, the makeup.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that was iconic.

It was literally like, I can't believe I was alive for that.

And then now, like, both of them are like, I never hear about Jeffrey anymore.

I never hear about Shane.

Like, Jeffrey's like living in Wyoming.

And like, Shane moved home.

Oh, yeah, they moved to Colorado.

Right.

To like Ryland.

Yeah, to Ryland's family.

And so it's like, I don't know, I feel like three years ago was like the golden age of YouTube.

Like, where would all those people go?

I know.

I know.

They're so low-key now.

I know.

I guess that's what happens when you make a lot of money.

I guess, which is probably nice for them.

Yeah, totally.

I think it's.

You got to make a lot of money.

It's like that and like cancellation.

Of course.

I mean, can't get, don't want to get canceled again.

Like, please not manifesting that for us or anyone here.

We are nice people.

Please, we are good.

Leave us alone.

But definitely need to buy a ranch in Wyoming.

It's on my bucket list.

A thousand percent.

Wait, I wanted to ask, maybe

I shouldn't, but you mentioned that you guys go to Utah every year.

What part?

We stay all over.

Like we've been to Park City.

Oh my gosh.

We went to Deer Valley, like usually in that area, like within like an hour from the airport, pretty much.

But I just love it.

It's the best.

Oh my God.

I'm literally going to start an OnlyFans so that I can make money to buy property.

No, no.

If I cannot get like a ranch in Utah in the next 10 years, like I don't want, I don't want to be here anymore.

Like, I'm absolutely.

I'll kids myself.

So is that literally?

Is that what all our fiancé is from?

Is that what you said?

Yeah, so he grew up in Park Park City.

So you get to go back?

Yeah, but it's so sad because his parents, he had like the most stunning house.

And then in 2017, they sold it.

And then they bought a house on Cape Cod.

Oh, nice.

And then they spend the winters in Utah.

So it's like nice because we get to go back all the time.

It's probably like close to, do you know Ogden at all?

No.

Yeah, it's like the outskirts.

Yeah.

But it's like small towns.

And so they have like a condo at the top of a ski resort that's like from the 80s.

It's literally ski in, ski out.

It's so nice.

So we go like every winter.

It was really nice.

Yeah, but I learned.

Oh, I can't.

While I

went

to ski, like to learn.

That's so funny.

And I have to say, like, I can't actually recall a worse day of my life.

I love TJ Teachu.

He's really good and patient.

And like, I honestly was like, this will probably make her break our relationship.

And it, okay, but the thing is, it wasn't even about the teacher.

It wasn't about the circumstance.

It's just like my body.

Like, my legs were killing me.

Yeah.

Like, my shins, like, from the the boots were on so tight and all my weight is like on my shins.

And I was like, who enjoys this?

Like I like to snowmobile.

It's, oh, oh my god, so fun.

Yeah, you just get to sit.

Sit.

Sounds like a skin.

It's like a jet skate.

So much better.

Yeah.

And actually, you do engage your core quite a bit.

Oh, do you?

You do, because it's like there's tension.

And like, actually, like,

I'm not even making this up.

Like, your stomach does hurt afterwards.

There is like something.

It looks like, what is that?

Like, cool sculpting?

Exactly.

Just like doing this the whole time.

So now that you've been in New York for three days, like, would you ever live live here?

Well, I have like, we've always wanted to probably relocate here and be bi-coastal just because like I can't do winter anymore.

I grew up with winters and like I'm just not here for it unless it's going to Park City or like Montana.

Right.

Like the Hallmark Channel vibes.

Yeah.

It's like I'll go there for a few weeks and then it's done.

I don't have to worry about cleaning off my car and like schlopping all over the place.

I'm just not here for that.

Yeah.

Like I literally left Massachusetts the year.

We had like 106 inches of snow and I was like, I'm done.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

So so I feel like it's like I would love to live here during like the summer, fall and then go back to LA for like

winter.

Do you guys live in apartments or houses in LA?

I just bought a house in January, actually.

You did?

Yeah, I just bought a condo.

We bought it at, it sounds so good.

Homeowners.

Look at you.

Yeah, it's no big deal.

Yeah, we'll get a real job.

It's no big deal.

We'll get a real job.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, when the internet's like done with us.

Oh my God.

You guys bought houses.

That's crazy.

Are you ever afraid like someone's just my own thing?

I've always lived in an apartment and like my thing with a house is like someone could just like walk in the the door like do you ever feel my biggest fear literally my biggest fear

like cameras on every available entrance like but even still at night i'm like lock the door that would like kill me it's yeah yeah it's nice though because we're in like where we are we lived in like hollywood ish area for like three and a half years and i was like i'm done yeah moving to the suburbs um the suburbs so we moved to the valley the suburbs that's where the vanderpromp rules kids live it's yeah we live so close to all do you see them i've never seen that but they've also been to emo night You're lying.

I swear to God.

I've got to go to Emonite.

When's the Emo Night LA next one?

It's the first Friday of every month.

They used to do it on my shit.

It's like the first Monday in May, the first Friday of every month.

Yeah.

I'll be there, seriously.

Every month.

Every month.

Every single month.

Where is it at?

Where is it at?

It's in Echo Park.

Okay, whatever.

Lincoln Park After Dark.

That's my go-to nail polish.

Stop.

This is literally the first time I switched.

This is going to be my wedding nail color.

Which is black nails for your wedding.

So, no, this is Guys and Galaxies, but typically always, I only, so instead of like the purple undertone of Lincoln Park After Dark, this is like a maroon.

Okay, it's black.

That's all I'm like.

I'm like, it's black.

Yeah, for sure, it's black.

Thank you for showing me your black nails.

Thank you both so much for being here.

Everyone, make sure to check out their podcast, OnlyFriends, which is such a good name for a podcast.

I can't wait to get it myself first.

Amazing YouTube channel.

Follow them on Instagram.

It's just at Aaron Gilfoy and at Carly and Contro, right?

Yes, yeah.

Thank you guys so much for being here who are dolls and a half.

I hope I didn't talk over you too much.

Oh my god, no.

That's like my thing.

My thing, too.

I always talk over Carly and everyone else.

You know, literally, like, then you're Jackie and you're me.

Like, I'm an animal, and I'm trying to be conscious of it, and I'm incapable of being.

It's hard, yeah.

It's so hard, but I love you guys.

Thank you so much for being here.

Thank you.

Thank you guys for watching, and we'll see you tomorrow.

Bye.

Bye.