S4 Ep148: The Anti-Bucolic Nature of Our Lives: Thursday, August 19th, 2021

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Thursday.

We are officially over the hump.

Hey, Claude, how you doing?

Hey, Jax.

Darn well.

Sitting at home.

Yeah, we're back at home, you guys.

Another audio-only episode because we were having a bit of studio issues today.

So we were like, yesterday's audio was just so premium.

So premium.

So we are back doing it from home, which means two things.

It means one, it's another day that Brew did not come into the office.

And honestly, I think that you started all the drama at the studio today just because you did not want to bring Brew because you are now a week overdue.

So add that to the list.

Brew.

We're now six days without Brew.

So keep count.

But the second thing that it means is that technically Brew is here with me.

He's laying on my bed on my heating pad like an angel and just giving me the joie de vie that I need to deliver you this this episode.

Sure, that's a loophole.

I mean, you should see this man.

He's literally gorgeous.

Gorgeous.

How's Dew?

Stunning, beautiful, smart, all of the above.

What's he up to?

What's he getting into today?

Just got back from his walk.

Feeling, you know, today I'm podcasting in the bedroom and I had to lock him out because sometimes if I lock him in, he'll spend the whole time we're podcasting scratching on the door and then like, I won't get my deposit back.

You know, he has to stop scratching the door.

So he's probably feeling abandoned by his mother.

Got it.

And why can't the door just remain open?

Because Ben is outside being loud.

So like, it would be, I don't think the microphone would pick it up, but like, it would be very distracting for me.

And then I couldn't deliver the fast five with the joie de viv that I usually do.

No, that is very, very fair.

I lack brew in tech.

I never even thought about it.

But yes, my door is shut and brew is locked in.

Yeah, and so after years of research, I've decided that the best thing to do when podcasting from home is locking him out, which is just so sad.

That is so sad.

Damn, it's a bad day for do.

It's a bad day for do that do.

Do that door.

Yeah, by the way, you can't do that like little singing voice around the boys because they like think it's their calling.

Like it's time for dinner or something.

Yeah.

So like when we're on the phone, we'll just FaceTime each other and we'll be like, what's up?

And then the other person will be like, boo, ta-doo.

And like the dogs go wild.

We them boys.

We making noise.

So I brought your gift home and it's sitting right here next to my vanity, just perched up.

And that's what happens when you bring gifts home from the studio.

Oh, I thought you meant the gift that you had for me that you said is coming.

I thought you like brought it to the studio and then had to bring it home.

Oh, no.

It still hasn't arrived.

That's how custom it is.

I don't know when it's coming.

It probably will be here in like September, honestly.

For real?

That's how custom and special it is.

September?

Yeah, I mean, I know.

You know what?

I'll check in on it, but I just, it'll get here when it gets here.

Nothing could take longer than the Maverick t-shirt.

Oh, really?

Does Logan Paul not have good shipping?

Well, no, he's just so in demand.

I ordered it the night of his fight,

and then you guys saw when I gave it to you.

Like, it was six weeks later.

So probably, like,

the

advertising on the fight, like, was so successful.

Like, he probably ran out of stock.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, it was madness, but I was patient.

It was worth waiting for.

It was worth the wait.

Speaking of things worth waiting for, the second episode for Patreon is up.

I put it up yesterday.

It's a vlog, and it's kind of a vlog all about Spritz.

I obviously vlogged the party and, you know, tried to get as many famous people in it as possible, but also like the days leading up, like some of the work we were doing.

And people.

Honestly, it's a really cute video.

Like you and Ben getting like so excited about all that like you like with the website.

And it's just really cute to watch.

It's always fun when I get to watch like a vlog that you made or vice versa.

And I'm just like enjoying the entertainment value.

Yeah.

and it's really cool and really sweet.

And you do get more behind-the-scenes info about Spritz and how it all came about.

And it's been really awesome.

Speaking of Spritz, don't forget to head over to spritzsociety.com/slash toast or just use the discount code toast to get a discounted variety pack so you can try all flavors of Spritz.

By the way, like people's orders will be arriving today.

Like, if you live near one of the warehouses, because most of them shipped out yesterday.

And I was saying in the vlog, like, isn't it so crazy that we like started this brand?

It's kind of how like Kim sells perfumes on the internet.

Like, nobody's tried Spritz.

They're just like, you know,

in good faith, like, we are women of taste.

Like, if we like it, they'll like it too.

And I just can't believe, like, literally, people are finally going to try it.

Like, we've literally sold this thing and nobody even tried it.

No, I'm so excited for people to try it because they're going to love it even more.

And it's just going to be so fantastic.

Everyone can have like spritz up their weekends.

It's going to be.

a spritzy weekend.

No, and honestly, like the toasters make amazing content.

I'm like, we literally are going to have so much content for days yeah it's really true what are you doing this weekend you know i don't know that's a really good question i'm kind of like teetering between like

wanting to do nothing and just wanting to like throw caution to the wind and jump off a cliff but i just have no i don't know which cliff i would go to

interesting no one's invited you to their cliff yeah if you have a cliff or like a house on the beach like let me know

yeah No, I totally feel that.

I think it's going to be another weekend in bed with Brew.

Which is really nice, but like when we podcast from home,

I pretty much work for my bed.

Like I don't even make my bed because I get out of my bed.

Yesterday was a disgusting day for me.

Yeah, like I get out of bed, I podcast, and then I get back in bed, I upload the podcast, I edit Patreons, I answer emails.

So like it really is like a weekend.

So I don't know, I've had like a relaxing two days and I might be ready.

No, I feel that.

I get really badge focused when I'm actually just in bed.

And so even when I have a weekend where I'm in bed Saturday, Sunday, by Monday, I'm like ready to go.

So, after like these days of doing podcasting from home, I could feel like I would be ready to go.

I really need to take Brew to the country.

He keeps looking at me like, Mom, can we please go to a bucolic vibe?

And I'm like, Brew, who taught you to speak like this?

Well, you know what?

He's a victim of circumstance.

He had to get in the dictionary and find a word that so accurately describes what he's looking for.

And until I learned the word bucolic, which was it was in an article we were reading.

Do you remember what article it was?

I'd be so curious to remember.

No.

No.

Well, anyways, that word has like really changed my life.

Yeah, it really, really has.

And it's just, it's changed my life probably for the negative because I'm now like always seeking out something that I don't have.

No, and like the anti-bucolic nature of our current lives has never been more apparent.

It's disgusting.

It's disgusting.

That sounded like a sentence that would be in like someone's dissertation.

The anti-what did I say?

The anti-bucolic nature of our lives has never been more apparent.

Of our current lives.

That is literally the theme of my life.

Yes, the anti-becolic nature of it all.

And by the way, I want to tell everyone, like, I was,

I'm still searching for apartments because I will see the snow by Christmas.

And last night, I actually found an apartment that doesn't have everything I want, but it's pretty fucking close.

And it was like, oh, you should blog.

You should blog this journey.

No, so that's not a good thing.

It's too depressing.

So, no, but like, listen, just hear me out on the vision, on the directorial debut.

It's like a little Hallmark movie.

Like, will Claudia see the snow at christmas and it ends hopefully with you watching the snowfall in your new apartment or it's like me on the first snowfall in new york like in my current bedroom like crying yeah no it'll be a tragedy in that case but like still you should be taking us on the journey so that if there is a happy ending to this story like we have a major major motion picture okay but the thing is is that this would be a very boring vlog because literally all I do is lay in bed on Street Easy.

And then last night, I found one that I actually liked.

It was on the the market, joined yesterday.

I emailed, like, can I please come tour?

And literally, as we're sitting here, I got a notification that the apartment has been rented.

Damn.

And it was like a good price.

It was too good to be true.

But I do think that these sort of hurdles are going to be really good for the movie because it's.

For the plot.

She was so for the plot.

Like, these are plot devices.

You have to look at it that way.

No, I can't.

Like, I'm so upset.

But also, like, I need to be a little patient because everyone knows, like, the summer is the worst time to look for an apartment because all these post-grads moving to new york like it's i just want to say okay wait i just want to say one thing because that is like the the narrative but you are no longer looking for the same apartments as post-grads of course not like i'm a lady of course of course but still it's just the worst it really is especially now with covid like It is, I think, the worst rental market in history for renters, not for people who own apartments.

Like, I should rent, I should buy an apartment and rent it because that's the only way I'll be able to afford what I really want.

Okay.

So you actually, but with the eviction moratorium, you might not get your rent paid.

Okay, whatever.

Okay, you're taking this too seriously.

All I'm saying is that I do think I should be a little bit more patient and wait like about a month, but I'll still be checking, but I'm not getting anywhere before October, and that's something I'm going to have to just kind of live with.

Okay, well, hopefully it doesn't snow in October.

Shit.

It's not going to be cold.

Is it going to be unseasonably cold in October?

No, I mean, snowfall in the city in October is really unheard of because remember when it snowed in November for the divine diversion and like the city couldn't handle it because the trees got too heavy.

Like, and that was crazy.

And that was like November 13th-ish.

You know, I have actually blocked out that night from our, from my memory, because it was such a terrible time.

It was a deeply, deeply terrible time.

And I, when I was on my

rerouted journey through Tennessee and we got to Nashville and like Nashville was like our, you know, when we got there, it was like haven't,

yeah, it was, you know,

we were so stoked to be there.

But then we passed the gate that we sat at for the divine diversion.

I was like, I was like, this is an imperfect airport.

Like, I know we're putting all of our eggs in this Nashville basket, but I have trauma.

Okay, first of all, if you're new here and you don't know what the divine diversion is, I really implore you to go find our episode of The Divine Diversion.

But secondly, okay,

it's 2019 and it's like November.

Like I said, November 12th, 13th-ish.

So literally, I cannot fly in and out of the Nashville airport without passing that gate where we were diverted.

And it's right next to the Delta Sky Lounge.

It is so filled with trauma.

And for some reason, I guess because I always fly Delta into Nashville because it's so easy, LaGuardia to Nashville.

I cannot enter that airport without walking past it.

And it is so triggering.

I'm so glad you brought that up.

Yeah, so I like didn't want to tell the group like Nashville might not be our Satan grace like we could end up in Pittsburgh,

But I didn't want to bring the group down.

And luckily everything worked out in Nashville came through for us.

When we were in Pittsburgh, is there a moment that stands out to you?

Because like for me, when we took the escalator down and we headed to our Uber and this like, it was a, I remember like bright, bright red car.

And I see him like pulling, first of all, it took like 20 minutes to get an Uber and we're standing in the snow and I see him approaching and he opens his trunk and we're putting our bags in and I just like turn around at this blizzard in this random city that I've never been to and I I've never felt lower in my life like that moment like was so

Transformative for me.

Is there a moment that sticks out for you?

There is and it's when we got to the hotel which was really beautiful and it was a really nice hotel and so I'm not gonna put them on blast or anything.

They were great

They were great.

Um there was a jazz trio in the lobby There was and it was all decorated for Christmas and I guess like I've never been to Pittsburgh that I think that I think I haven't and it was all decorated for Christmas.

It was like very hallmark and they made us feel very welcomed.

And so we were riding a small high.

Are you talking about

when we got into our rooms and we ordered room service and I ordered spaghetti and it had a hair in it?

And for me,

for me,

that was a low point.

No, I feel that.

That'll do it.

That'll do it.

Oh my God, that's so funny.

I had forgotten about that.

Because like I said, I blocked this night out in my head.

And if I ever, if we, if I ever go to like my camera roll, oh my god, I'm sure it's just full of trauma.

Yeah, no, it's it's really bad.

So if you guys aren't familiar with our divine diversion experience, and I mean, I guess we didn't keep in touch with anyone from the flight, but I do wonder if anyone fell in love.

Wait, also,

the real trauma of the whole day

was the next morning.

Like we got diverted to Pittsburgh and we had to stay in a random hotel and then we finally, like, it were the first flight out.

It was like 8 a.m.

We woke up so early we get to the gate and i guess like delta forgot to staff the flight because nobody had told like flight attendants or a pilot like that we needed to get to new york so we're sitting there with they're like oh we don't have any staff and we're like what how did oh my god and then we stood we sat at that airport for like another six hours waiting for flight attendants yeah like sitting there with our morning breath i remember that it was the day It was the day that the Greatest Showman Reimagined album came out.

And I thought that listening to it would cheer me up, but now it's just like full of negative associations

you know oh my god that was that was the craziest day and I guess it's like not that crazy like people get diverted all the time no like to have to go to a city you've never been to and like get a hotel you know when you're just like two young steens like we were just and we didn't have like Olivia there like if Olivia was there it would have been better like she would have fixed everything No, she,

no offense to Olivia, but like there was nothing that could have been done even by her.

No, but like Jackie, when we literally were in the sky, and they're like, ma'am, we're going to Pittsburgh, and we were like, well, where do we sleep?

Like, it was traumatizing.

I had to find a hotel.

Like, if Olivia would have just done it all for us, and she would have gotten us to a hotel that didn't have hair in the food.

Okay.

We went to the nicest hotel in Pittsburgh.

We like, there's Uber.

We did everything.

And at that point, you had a manager who was also like helping manage you in terms of

logistics.

Like, give us a little credit.

We really did the best that we could.

Yeah, so it's sounding like I made all the plans and that's why you felt safe.

And what I'm saying is, like, I wish Olivia was there just to have done that for me.

Um, sure, I guess.

I just feel like, you know, in the age of technology, like, you're never really stranded as long as you have sell service.

That's actually hella true.

But you know what's the other thing I learned?

Because, like, I really,

I guess I travel a lot, but like, very, I don't take a lot of like one-stop, two-stop flights.

Like, I don't find myself in airports a lot at random hours.

And I guess I never realized like the airports close.

yeah what the fuck like from midnight to like 6 a.m.

so like when we landed diverted in Pittsburgh it was like no man's land it was actually scary

yeah honestly can we stop talking about this like I'm actually having drama

yeah okay let's get into the fast eye stories so that we can talk about real housewives at Beverly Hills yes

without for oh and also I watched Siesta Key so oh

You guys, I'm so upset.

I don't want to talk about it.

Okay.

Well, we have to,

but we're going to have to.

No, because CSTQ was fine because Sam and Juliet were together, but like knowing what comes next, it was foreboding.

Yeah.

It was foreboding.

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Are you ready for our first story?

It's a pleasure.

First up, Scarlett Johansson and husband Colin Jost welcome their first baby together.

It's baby Joe Sorry, it's baby Joy for Scar Joe and Kojo.

The Tony winner and her SNL star husband recently welcomed their first baby together.

Her rep exclusively confirms to people

and Colin posted on Instagram saying it's a boy.

Yeah, okay, okay, we had a baby.

It's a boy.

We named him Cosmo.

Okay, I have three things to say.

Well, two, actually.

But three.

One, I'm very happy for them.

Two.

Odd parents, fairly odd parents, Vina, Vitana, Tanana.

Hot noose, rubber noose, green noose, trapped juice, dry steak, birthday cake, march fries, chocolate, fries, chocolate shake!

Cosmo, okay, like cute, but like literally the fairly odd parents.

So let's just get that out there.

That's what people were saying.

That song has no business going that hard, by the way.

No fucking business.

Honestly, Diplo or like some DJ needs to take that and make it into a banger because if they play that in the club, like, hop noose, rubber goose, green moose, dry juice, diet jay, I would fucking lose my mind.

No, I know.

Have you seen that TikTok about that song?

Yes, of course.

You sent it to me.

Oh my gosh.

Back when you you had TikTok.

Back when I had TikTok, those were the sort of artists I enjoyed.

Yeah.

I like the name.

I saw in the comments on Morning Toast, like everyone was like Cosmo if they were the eye parents, but I actually think it's a really cute name.

Yeah, what do you think they'll call the kid like for short?

Cosmo?

I mean, Cosie?

Yeah.

Sorry.

No, but what's wrong with calling it Cosmo?

Well, everyone needs it.

Everyone needs like a nickname.

And is Cosmo short for Cosmopolitan?

Like.

I don't know.

but why can't you just call someone like their two-syllable name?

Okay, like, okay, we have a child, Michaela.

Let's call her Michaela.

Have we ever called her Michaela?

Her name is

Kayla Swift.

That's three syllables.

Three syllables.

Kayla.

Like, we

just call her Kayla.

I'm just saying kids get nicknames.

Now, when they're two-syllable names, Lilibet.

Three syllables.

I wanted to say two other things.

Scarlett

has a daughter already whose name is Rose.

She does?

Yeah, from her previous marriage.

Rose is seven.

Who's Rose's father?

Rose's father is.

Is it Ryan Reynolds?

No, it's not Ryan Reynolds.

That's what I was looking to find out.

Roman Doriak.

Oh, okay, nobody.

Or Romaine.

Is it nobody?

Okay, wait, I have two more things to say.

One, like, I do appreciate how they're, like, very low-key, like, no big announcement, but they also don't keep people in the dark.

I just like hate, okay, like, I get that he's a funny guy, and I'm a funny gal.

Like, I appreciate being funny, but like, I hate when people, like, have to make everything a joke.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke.

And so he posted this, like, carousel in the second image was like, please reach out to our publicist, Michael Che.

Like, funny, funny, funny.

It's just like, do we have to make a joke now?

Like,

jokes are funny like most of the time, but like always a joke.

I mean, imagine how Scarlett feels.

Oh my god, she probably thinks it's so annoying.

Yeah, that's probably like something that they fight about, like totally take anything seriously.

And then the last thing I wanted to say was, like, ever since they announced their birth, like on my TikTok, I guess people are just like interested in Scarjo.

And this clip from his audiobook was like being just like went viral.

Someone posted it where he's talking about Scarlett.

And this is just like the 10th time I've been like, I really want to read Colin Joe's book.

And I actually think that is what I might do today.

Oh my gosh, that would be so lovely if you picked up your Kindle again.

I know.

I feel like a work from home day is perfect for a Kindle.

It really is.

I actually started a new book last night.

I've been having such a hard time like figuring out what to read next.

Why are you having fallen down any rap?

Okay.

I haven't fallen down any rabbit holes in a while.

And I just started The Personal Librarian.

It's historical fiction and I saw it at every airport I was at last week and it has 4.12 on Goodreads.

So And it's about JP Morgan's personnel librarian.

Oh, that is interesting.

You think Sony's in the book?

No, but maybe we'll get to like his grandson who is Sonia's husband.

Yeah.

By the way, this is totally random, but like I was thinking,

because I think last week they were talking about, she was talking about JP, obviously.

And she was like, I knew he was old, but he's like in his late 70s, maybe even early 80s.

And maybe it's the son?

No, but I'm just thinking, like,

if he passes away,

does Sonia's life change at all?

Like, does she get any money?

I know her daughter probably gets a ton of money.

She probably doesn't.

But her daughter will definitely, like, help her out, right?

Yeah.

Maybe that's, like, something she's banking on.

I was just thinking about that because she never talks about that.

But, like, when she said his age, I'm like, oh, my God.

It could be like, you know, in the next five years.

Yeah, but he also could be a sprightly 77.

So true.

He could be be like a Joan River 77.

He could be like Prince Philip.

Right.

Oh my God, totally.

Did you ever finish The Prince?

No, I didn't.

I was actually thinking about that.

That's why I don't like starting stuff unless I like know I can finish it.

I like started it on a whim and now I'm like just halfway through and I have to finish it.

It's so good.

Yeah, I know.

There's a musical number.

Wow, who's singing?

Everyone.

It's so good.

It's called like when will I find my happy ever after.

It's actually like a gorgeous medley.

That's so beautiful.

Yeah.

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

Only if it's about chocolate shake.

It's not, but it is about justice.

What does that have to do with chocolate shake?

It doesn't.

I said, it's not.

No, you said, but it is.

Like as if like it's some sort of like consolation.

It is a consolation because I think justice is sweeter than a chocolate shake.

Wow, those are fighting words.

Do you disagree?

Let's Let's hear the story.

Who's getting justice?

Years in the making, the R.

Kelly sex abuse trial gets underway in New York.

RB star R.

Kelly, who is a predator who lured girls, boys, and young women with his fame and dominated them physically, sexually, and psychologically, a prosecutor said Wednesday, while a defense lawyer warned jurors they'll have to sift through lies from accusers with agendas to find the truth.

The differing perspectives came as the long-anticipated trial began unfolding in a Brooklyn courtroom where several accusers were scheduled to testify in the next month about the Grammy-winning multi-platinum selling singer whose career has been derailed by charges that have left him jailed as he goes broke.

So.

Okay, wait, because I have watched all of the documentaries and I was under the assumption all of this was taking place in Chicago.

It's here now.

Isn't it?

It might be a different trial.

Okay.

Yeah, I agree with you because it was all like happening in Cooks County.

But it's taking place in New York and I think we are on our way to Justice for the Girls.

Right, because I remember when the documentary came out, they had gotten some sort of delay, which was supposed to help R.

Kelly.

Like they, his lawyers got him like a seven-month push or something.

And I guess now is the actual start time.

So we, he may be like, you know, less of a hot topic.

You know, when the, when the documentary came out, everyone was like all a buzz.

And now obviously like, the news cycle washes out.

But like, I have never stopped thinking about R.

Kelly and Justice for the Girls.

And so today or yesterday, whenever this was, is a great day.

That's what I'm saying.

You are totally right.

This is a better story than chocolate chicken.

This is sweet.

This is sweeter.

Yeah.

I do feel like, you know, some of the

buzz around all of this has died down, you know, because the documentary made such a big splash.

But it's important to remember that things are happening.

This trial is underway and we might be seeing some justice for the girls.

I know.

And, you know, I have so much like excitement and hope that like justice will be served.

I just like really pray that the justice system does not fail the girls.

You never know.

Again,

remember the last time.

Yeah, so like we just can't get too excited.

We cannot count our chickens before they hatch.

That's true.

That's true.

But the trial's underway, and I wanted you guys to know.

Thank you for letting us know.

I actually did not even see that

when I was

reading, you know, as I do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, it's it's weird.

It's been pretty like low-key.

Quiet.

Yeah, low-key.

Switching gears are you ready for our next story sure

Courtney Kardashian calls out Kim Kardashian over this wild college memory so the Kardashian girls are fighting over on Instagram over like what happened when Kim visited Courtney in college where the hell have I been I didn't see any of this okay Kim posted a picture of her and Courtney from when Courtney went to the University of Arizona and Kim wrote college years baby University of Arizona single-handedly stopped me from turning into a wild party girl i remember visiting court on campus and being her designated driver i hated all of the wild parties so much that i stayed home and never wanted to drink or party ever so thank you u of a i was never a student there but you shaped my life more than you know and then oh my god so i saw that post and i was like oh that's really funny and it's just like crazy to think about like the girls like going to college and all that stuff and it's crazy to think about that like Courtney is the only one who graduated college.

I believe Rob went but did not graduate from Southern Methodist University.

Courtney graduated.

I thought Rob went to USC.

I thought Courtney went to Southern Methodist University.

Somebody went to SMU.

No, I think it's USC and you're just getting your letters.

No, I'm telling you, just give me one second.

I know, like, that is like a Kardashian fact that I know.

No, I feel really strongly that Rob went to USC.

Like, but maybe I'm wrong.

Okay, Courtney went to Southern Methodist University and the University of Arizona.

Okay, so we're we're all right.

Yeah.

We all know where Courtney went.

Okay, however, Courtney commented on Kim's picture that she remembers things a little differently.

She said, I remember feeding you jungle juice and someone else was driving, I won't name names, and blasting rough riders.

She said, maybe I was partying too hard to remember correctly.

Anyone else who was there want to chime in?

Then

Chloe chimes in saying, I was there too.

She said,

I was there that night too, bitch.

And then she posted a picture from the same night that she's in.

I guess like like everyone forgot that she was there.

And then Courtney commented, the night of the Clo-Motion party where we put jungle juice in the water cooler.

This is just like so.

I can't imagine the Kardashians drinking jungle juice.

No, this is just like, this was a wild ride.

Well, honestly, this is such like a sisterly thing because we all, I think we all, we all have like, you know, memories that we share and we recall them so differently.

And like in my mind and like in your mind, it 100% happened that way like nobody's lying but you remember things differently than other people

it's true that's the thing about memory it's relative

it actually is which is really messed up um I just like I actually I can't believe I didn't see this I need to go look at their Instagrams because pictures of them in college it just like doesn't it just doesn't make sense no like it's literally so crazy like It just takes you back.

Remember when you used to visit me in college?

I mean, I think it had the opposite effect where like it definitely made you just like want to get out there i was activated like i because i went to nyu i went to nyu i had like no social life i had like just met ben so like all we did was hang out together i literally was the biggest loser in college and the first time i visited you i was in high school

and it was like fun but you were a freshman it wasn't like that crazy but it was like cool to be at parties and like take pictures for facebook albums Yeah, for sure, but I wasn't like so plumped in.

No, no, not at all.

Then I visited you when you were in the townhouse.

Remember?

So, yeah, so when you were a freshman?

I was a freshman.

You had, like, were in your, you know, group, your sorority, and, like, things were, were getting more lit than usual.

Yeah.

Then there was the time of all times.

Senior year.

You were senior.

You were very, like, all of your friends lived on like the same hallway in this apartment building.

It was like so fun.

We like all stayed in all of their rooms.

And we went to that party that like literally will go down in history.

Oh, wait, but I was also there for another time.

Oh, where we took all those pictures that used to be the Toast after Dark Facebook Facebook cover photo where Gibson got married.

Oh, yeah, that was...

I think you visited me like three times senior year.

Wait, and then there was also the time we did Keg Stamps.

You came in the spring.

Where I wore that blue sweater.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, wait, I'm sorry.

And then Beta Beach, where

that was the townhouse year.

Where I smoked a cigarette and literally had to go home for the night.

I had the worst fucking headache of all time.

And then everyone was like drunk and I was sober and I like took someone's Jeep and picked you guys up because like.

Wait.

And you visited me sophomore year when we went to that 80s party that's what I was saying by the way 80s parties was also the wedding

okay okay so yeah no and like no no it wasn't no it wasn't because you visited me sophomore year and Gibson wouldn't have been getting married until we were seniors Okay, it wasn't a real wedding you guys.

It was like some stupid fraternity thing.

It was like a theme.

That was a theme.

Okay, whatever.

Like I couldn't get enough.

And like from my boring life in New York, like to go to parties with alcohol, like it was, I was activated.

Like literally, and I never in my life really regretted like not going to a real school like unless like when I was visiting you I was like oh my god this could be my life like this is so fun and I guess like I really justified the years after college where I like partied a lot I'm like this is my college years and like I'm still in there you're still doing this 100%

and when people are like people are like you go out a lot I'm like I didn't go to college

yeah no it's it's really true you have a lot of making up to do

but our next story actually is completely related and it's gonna be a bit of Claudia explains it All because we need to talk about Bama Rush.

Oh, yeah, of course.

Please explain to us what's going on.

I mean, I can put together the details that like girls who are rushing at Alabama are going viral for like their

Bama rush stuff.

So basically,

maybe like two weeks ago, I was on TikTok and I was getting like all these girls who were with southern accents, like doing like my OOTD, like my jewelry is from Kendra Scott.

And like, for some reason, they just kept populating on my, on my for you page.

and then all these other people were making content like is anyone else getting like all these Alabama students like on their for you page and then like that created more momentum and then we all just started like you know what are they gonna wear today and then they were all at school early for rush week and a lot of schools participated but Alabama was the one like people were super invested in there were a couple girls who got like huge followings from sharing their OOTDs and like their dorms and it was like so southern and like sweet and we were like oh my god we like we love these girls like I wonder which sorority they're gonna get into So once it started to blow up, all the girls who were rushing at University of Alabama like started making TikToks because they wanted, you know, the cloud and we needed the content.

And so like girls who were rushing, girls who were already in sororities, doing the rush, you know, making up dances, like people were just getting so invested.

Then everyone was sharing like their own experience at college sororities.

And so at University of Alabama, there were a few girls who like really were the first to do the OOTDs and like became like influencers in the space.

And one one of them was this girl, Michaela, who was so sweet and like she had such a southern accent.

Kayla?

Kayler.

And she had such like a southern accent.

So she was saying like, my dress is from normal.

And we're like, what, we're like, what are these stores?

Like, my, my skirt is from the pants store.

We're like, what is that?

So then she's giving us like a tour of the pants stores.

Like she was really letting us in on this cultural moment.

And

then it was like bid day.

I don't know all the words like pref day whatever like all the words are the words.

Okay.

So she's showing us her OOTDs D's and we're really rooting for her and what we're learning about this whole thing is that

and I knew this but not to the extent that I know it now like Alabama sororities are fucking serious like legit like you need to have good grades you need to have a referral you can't be you know posting on social media with red cups like you have to it's literally like getting into college again so it's really prestigious and this girl Michaela was a triple legacy I forget which sorority triple legacy at this one sorority and she had like amazing you know she was just like everything of the sort and

literally in the middle of rush there's a rumor going around that michaela got dropped from every sorority and i don't know how the rumor got started i think and then also at the same time for some reason her tick tock got suspended which happens all the time like you just can't post you're like banned for a few days So we're like, what the fuck is going on?

Like there was so much tension and like she left a comment somewhere or she liked a comment saying that she was dropped, thus confirming the dropping.

So now all the content's coming out, like justice for Michaela, justice for Michaela.

And as we're waiting waiting to hear from her, somebody finds a video on Old Row, which is like one of those like college bar stool things, a video of her and her friend and her friend's like really drunk in the bathroom and her friend like falls over the garbage can and it's like funny haha

and this is like a direct violation of Alabama protocol you know

excuse me so we're all sharing the video and we're like is this the video is this why she's not been dropped I mean that's why it said that she has been dropped finally a few days later her account comes back she does like a live.

She makes a couple of TikToks and she basically says, like,

yes, it's all true.

Like, I am moving on with my life.

I'm so grateful.

Now she has like 150,000 followers.

She doesn't need the fucking sorority.

She's like going to like, you know, she could drop out of college.

Like, she's grateful for the platform, the opportunity.

You know, it wasn't meant to be.

But like, it was a really huge blow because like we were all rooting for Michaela.

And Michaela, I believe she's

biracial or I believe she's biracial.

So a lot of people were like, you know, you know, and by the way, there's so much history in the University of Alabama sororities, like as early as 2013, where like they were segregated.

Like it was, it was national news.

And I do believe, I have to do more research, Karen Huger was involved in the movement.

So now we're all like, well, Michaela didn't get in the sorority.

Like this is suspicious.

So it was just like.

It was a journey for everyone involved.

And we're on the other side.

I still get like a lot of sorority content.

Now I'm getting like, you know, tours of people's dorm rooms and like their, their rooms in the houses of these mansions.

And honestly, like that makes me want to go to like a big school with sororities because you see these girls like they're having so much fun they're like living with their best friends but they have like queen beds in their own room and they like share a bathroom it's like so delta new

yeah and it's really been a wild ride

so everyone is situated in their sororities they got their bids and

And then like bid day was just like the craziest day because like at University of Alabama, they like literally take the football stadium and like all the girls fill it up and they have assigned seats and there's like folders on their seats and they can't open the folder until like the person on the stage says like 10, 9, and then 3, 2, 1.

And then they open it and like they all film themselves and they like, you would think it's like they're opening, you know, a paternity test.

Like it's like, it's like Maury.

They're like, ha!

Like, it's just nuts.

It's like a culture.

It's like a, it's such a weird culture that like I knew nothing about.

Of course, like from Sidney White, like that, that's my frame of reference.

No, like we get like sorority stereotypes for movies, but like it actually sounds like even crazier than what we see in the movies.

These girls don't sleep.

They don't eat for a week.

Like it's actually like I'm trying to like stay positive, but like when I think about it, it's like really toxic.

But like I just want to enjoy it like from my perspective, but it's definitely like, it's definitely not great for the for the gal's mental health.

Oh, no, probably not.

And like when you want to bid a sorority, like basically like all the girls who are already in it like sit in this room, like really how it was in Sydney White.

And they just like go through a PowerPoint and it's like ugly fat big nose you know like they really do that like because I got a lot of DMs from people who like graduated obviously and who were like parts of you know the team I don't know whatever it's called in the sorority and they're like it's horrible

that's so horrible it's so crazy how like the cycle just continues because like at one point you're the person going through it and you're like you know this is so wrong but then eventually you're the person doing it and it's like can some people just break the cycle and be like we didn't like how this felt when we were on the other end let's not do it to other people no totally And I guess there's like some good things, because I got some messages from people.

And like the good thing is that like being a part of, it's at some of these schools where it's like really fucking rigorous.

You have to have amazing grades like in high school and like in your first semester.

So it does keep the girls like on track.

But like they control your social media.

Like you can get fined.

Like it's just so like, it's crazy.

Yeah, that is really crazy.

Yeah.

So that's where I've been for like the last couple weeks.

Well, thank you for explaining it to us.

This has just been like a fun trip down memory lane.

And just

never forget

justice for Michaela.

A hundred percent.

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Aunt Anstead is gushing about his really lovely girlfriend, Renee Zellweger.

Oh my God, this story is just too thirsty for me.

But it's not because it includes Renee Zellweger.

It's just so weird.

The British TV host gushed about his, quote, really lovely girlfriend in a new interview with Extra, joking that he owes Discovery for introducing them as they met on his new series, Celebrity IOU.

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Oh, he's a comedian.

So, like, he's

not that we ever thought that they weren't a couple, even though, like,

even though it couldn't possibly be.

I don't know of any stranger thing that's happened um but he's confirming it well also there is um a few updates in the Anstead hack Summer Ray El Musa

circle one is that

not Summer Ray Heather Ray sorry Heather Ray

Summer Ray is like an Instagrammer right right.

I was like I didn't hear that part.

No, sorry, sorry.

Okay, the first piece of news is that Christina Hack bought a $10 million house and it's like sickening and just crazy that like she had $10 million.

The other piece of news is that a lot of people think that Christina Hack and her new man, whose name is so unremarkable that I don't know it, but he's like a businessman, people think they're engaged because they put up like a couple Instagram stories and like him and like people close to them posted like a boomerang of them popping champagne was like so happy for you, but we haven't heard anything about it and it's been a week and I feel like they're too thirsty to like let that opportunity go.

So I don't think it's true, but there is a major conspiracy that she would be engaged again which would just be so crazy that would be so crazy but i'm just saying it's conjecture okay i do think she would tell us did you i don't know if we ever followed up you watched that tiktok of the whole circle right

you know it was a little long okay basically christina hack's new boyfriend his sister used to host a podcast with heather ray

Got it.

And that, and of course, like the whole Renee thing, like that's that part you know.

Of course.

Yeah, no, it's so fucking crazy.

It's just like my mind hurts.

I know.

This is like the most weirdest and significant love rhombus ever.

It's literally a pentagram.

No.

I guess so, because there's crisscrosses and stuff.

It's a hexagon.

Honestly,

it's like an octagon.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's eight players for sure.

Okay, well, those are the fast five.

Definitely feel as though you needed to know them, but let's just get to the reason we're all here to talk about last night's Real House sides of Beverly Hills, which was very awkward.

Yeah, so the whole episode was pretty much the dinner, but let's just take it from the top where the women finished their conversation, you know, at Sutton's request to talk about how they were feeling about stuff.

And I felt like what everyone said, whether they were like, you know, as hard as Sutton or like somewhere in the middle, like I felt like everyone.

Right, you could understand how they're feeling that way.

And I do feel like in other circumstances, like, you know, get all getting all the women together and talking about if we want to stand by our friend, like, would be

kind of shady.

But, like, in this situation, like, it's so much bigger than them.

And what I do feel like Sutton isn't, maybe she doesn't feel this way, but what I would feel if I were Sutton is like,

obviously, there's legal implications and, like, all this stuff that they need to worry about.

And as we saw, you know, the Beverly Hills producers, casting crew, including them, are being like deposited.

Subpened on.

So, like, she wasn't wrong.

She wasn't wrong.

But I feel like they are being used

in order to sell a story

to sell a story

and so they are that that like

so they play a role in that you know of course and someone's like sitting here like are we being like manipulated to like have this story that erica is saying which is basically like tom was a good guy until three years ago he got into a car accident had a head injury and now has dementia and he's never been the same and in the last three years he destroyed his firm and destroyed people's lives when the la times article crystal so accurately pointed out, predates three years.

It's like 12 years ago.

The first one is the burn victim, which was in the early 2000s.

Like, so you're kind of selling this story.

Your lawyers are aligned with it.

Tom's lawyers are aligned with it.

And you're using the show to do that.

And Sutton's like, no, I'm a part of the show, too.

I don't support this Sharad.

Yeah.

So

I understood what Sutton was saying.

Of course, when Erica comes and sits down, it's like, wow, are we really going to go and say all of this again?

And who thought it was a good idea to put them next to each other?

They should have been sitting across from each other.

Kyle said I did the seating.

Yeah, no.

He said there's place cards.

No, but like if Kyle wants to start shit, that's fine.

But like when you're fighting with someone, you don't sit next to them.

You sit across from them.

Yeah, and also this whole dinner was about talking to Erica and Sutton was really the ringleader for that.

Why is Sutton on the end?

No, it was the worst seating ever.

And like Dorit was in the seat that

Sutton should have been in.

And I didn't kind of agree.

The thing was, like, at Dorit's house, like, no one was really agreeing with Sutton at first.

And then I think Sutton just started to convey her points, and everyone was like, you know, like they were being assuaged by

she was making valid points, and then Dorit kind of got like a little

into it.

And I think Sutton thought she was going into that dinner with Darit by her side.

But Doreet, like, Erica is scary.

So the fact that Sutton was even able to get across most of her points, like I had a lot of respect for, Doreen, like, crumbled in the under the pressure.

Like, she did not do a good job of

saying how she felt.

Yeah, I do think for me, like, still, it's a matter of do we believe Erica or do we not?

Like, you know, if you have a really long-standing friendship with her, like, you're gonna believe the best in her.

And so, you're gonna be by her side because that's like what friends do.

But the fact that there really is no anger against Tom, and it's like, and Garcell was the one who said that, like, fuck Tom.

Why doesn't Erica say, like, this man ruined her life, ruined all of these other like vulnerable innocent people's lives?

Where is the energy for Tom?

And then everyone's like, well, of course we feel like that.

It's like, but you didn't ever said it.

You know, and they're like, and of course it's really about the victims, really?

Because until Garcell brought it up, no one was talking about the victims.

Dari had said it once or twice, but still, like, that's the whole thing here.

Like,

and I do, I don't understand why Erica isn't taking a, like, she was already divorcing the man, so it's not like this love of her life is now in in a hard spot.

Yeah, she like refuses to like speak ill of him.

And honestly, the most shocking part of the episode was that

Garcelle's sister has like had an experience with like a shisty settlement lawyer.

Yeah.

Which is just so crazy.

And like I totally understand her position.

But honestly, like the episode was infuriating for two reasons.

One, because like Erica was like.

So offended by these questions when they're such rational things to ask.

Like we're around a person who very possibly could have ruined the lives of widows and orphans and we're not allowed to ask questions.

And if we do, we're the bad guy.

She was so defensive and like so outraged that these questions were even coming her way when they're so valid.

So I just thought her attitude sucked.

Yeah.

And by the way, there's no way Lisa Rena did not tell Erica Jane what she was walking into.

She 100% knew when she was driving up in the car.

She took a deep breath.

Like she fucking knew.

100%.

I had the same thought.

And also, I've read like from people sending me and stuff that Erica is an investor in Rinna Beauty.

Yes, I heard that too.

That that's just like, I haven't looked into it myself, but that's not people's theory.

They say that this is just fact and it's known and you can go find it out.

But again, I have to check for myself.

So, like, it's possible that like some of the widows in orchestra.

Lisa Rinna has a lot to lose if Erica goes down.

So, it behooves Rina

to

maintain Erica's innocence.

Of course, but she was being so fucking annoying, chiming in.

Like, we all love Erica.

Like, I love how garcel was like it's not a competition like right garcel is so fucking on point and honestly like i respect like crystal for not saying literally anything at the meal because like and the thing is like the fact that erica's so

offended by like sutton and garcel questioning her when like they don't know her they've known her for one year what do they owe you like all these atrocious arguments are coming out i've known you for a year and i'm just supposed to like stand by you without asking a single question

yeah it's just preposterous lisa rando was bothering me so much.

Like, and as always, of course, she is like an Erica stand.

So we knew she was going to take Eric aside.

I have seen that Rinna Beauty thing.

And like, it's crazy to think about like, oh, and so the real question here is

where did the $20 million come from?

What was it supposed to be for?

And that's what Satan said.

Like, at the end of the day, like, the thing linking you to all of this is this $20 million deposit.

Like, where's it from?

And she's like, I know.

That's the question.

No, it's like, no, answer.

We need you to answer it.

The question is for you.

No, I guess her argument is that she had no,

she didn't go into her own LLC.

She doesn't run the money there, like that Tom ran all of that stuff.

See, I don't really buy that.

If he was moving money from one account to the other, like, she wouldn't know.

I don't really buy that, that he started her LLC for her.

No, but I just really appreciate Sutton because I, one, I feel like, you know, she's up to speed.

Someone has to be, you know, the fact that Kyle didn't even read the article, like, what are you supposed to do?

Come on.

Like, like

it's really whatever the fact that Sutton is so up to speed and

has the right questions to ask but also is like and she said the same thing that we said which which is like it's possible that Erica didn't know anything it's very possible but Erica is so smart clug you know she's the smartest girl in that cast I think yep So how can you be so in the dark?

So of course Sutton is skeptical.

We are all skeptical.

Right.

But I do think Kyle kind of verbalized it perfectly because she had this conversation with Erica where Erica was like, you know, it's crazy how fast people leave your lives, like when things get hard.

And Kyle was like,

that's not me.

I'm here for you.

And of course that was before they knew

the real,

like the depth of the allegations, the widows and orphans.

And Kyle was like, of course, I don't want to be that type of person.

But like, that's if you're getting divorced or if you're...

being sued.

Yeah.

Like, it's not about widows and orphans.

Like, that's where it takes on.

And all these women want to be here for Erica unless she knew.

And she didn't even outright say, like, she wasn't even convincing.

Like, I didn't know, you know,

right.

So, I left the episode like with a kind of like bad taste in my mouth about Erica.

And I just,

even if she didn't know, I think that her getting like so visibly offended and upset at the women questioning her is so unreasonable because they were not asking anything that was really that crazy.

Yeah, and also, like, the fact that there's this weird protection of Tom.

Yes.

I find to be extremely sus.

I also was just disappointed in Duri.

Like take aside.

Don't be like flapping your mouth to Sutton and then like be spineless in front of Erica.

And also Lisa Rina, she's so annoying.

I know what you're going to say when she said that Sutton left her spine at home.

Right, which is actually the opposite.

Sutton was standing up to Erica, who's just like a heavy hitter in the cast.

She's very popular in the cast.

She's been on for longer.

People loved her before all this.

Like, she's scary.

Like, so Sutton actually.

Sutton is the weak link of the she's so awkward i thought sudden did a great job i actually thought she had a very spineful

very very spineful i totally agree and also i sent you the funniest tweet where it's like uh someone said like lisa rinner really thought she did something when she said princesses worry about their reputations queens don't what the does that mean it means nothing um

and by the way

sudden is from the south She's on all these like fancy boards and charities.

Like, of course, that's the type of thing like you get kicked off of one of those fancy things for, like, being involved in something like this.

And I don't think she's being selfish at all for worrying about her reputation.

Like, she's a public figure now.

She's involved in all these causes.

Like, who the fuck would want to be attached to widows and orphans?

Yeah, like, the allegations are so atrocious.

It's not just like, we don't want to be a part of this stain.

Like, right.

Like, when, I mean, I don't even not to like

even think about which one, which allegation is the worst.

right but like

i mean you think of each one individually and it's so bad

so

i just there's really no energy for that though it seems yeah no like they're all just like worried about the wrong thing they're all worried about like offending erica when it's like it's not about

if they're gonna come off as good friends or not right and like let's say all this you know blows past and erica for the for a time was the most successful from this show like she was in vogue she was doing the men and markets partnership she had her her own cosmetic line, her own shoe line.

So I think they're thinking like long-term, like she'll probably bounce back to that.

And if she's the most famous, most popular, she's DJ and Coachella, everyone loves her.

And she hates me because she remembers that I wasn't there for her.

Like,

is that something I want to do?

So I just feel like they all have their priorities all fucked up.

Yeah, I agree with that, but not Sutton Garcelle or Crystal.

No, and

I wish Kathy would have chimed in more because she's just so interesting.

No, or Kathy.

She's so interesting.

Like, I love everything that, no, no, no.

I was just echoing what you said.

She's so interesting.

And they said or Kathy, I'm like,

everything that she said was so on point.

Like, she, um,

she really added a lot of value.

She's very wise, and people respect what she says.

Yeah, yes.

And you can tell she's got her eye on Erica.

And she's having a gorilla.

No, when she was like last week, she's like, everyone's like, I've known her five years.

I've known her three years.

Kathy's like, I don't know her.

Dead.

like no Kathy's very like she's like silly hungy dory but there's pearls of wisdom in there she's shrewd yes

so that's okay well my air pods are gonna die so that's that on that okay well did you want to talk about Santa King

I need to do I need to have I need full air pods for her okay well we'll recap it tomorrow or I guess I could like keep talking until my air pods aren't go you just know

I haven't well I'm so behind so you catch me okay so so I just watched the last two episodes, Season Finale, the launch of JMP, the label, and then they had a reunion, like a housewife-style reunion.

Oh, Rachel Lindsay.

Rachel Lindsay.

Yeah.

So in general, I liked the fact that there was a reunion.

It was nice to see the game back together, like talking in real time.

But I thought that the format like wasn't great.

And the questions, like they were treating it more like therapy than a reunion.

And everything was like, and how did that make you feel?

And where do you feel now?

And it was just like,

the questions were a little random but

we got to you know they asked about the big stuff so Kelsey and Juliet like still not friends but I think they're like on their way to something better Sam and Juliet were like fine of the reunion she walked off for a second because she was like really emotional and he went with her and like she was like I'm gonna quit the show and she said at one point she was like it she said something really interesting that of course like nobody followed up on but she was like when they were talking about when she hit Kelsey and like how she got to that place whatever she was just like crying she got really upset she's like it's so hard to be on a TV show and And I'm sure like everyone was playing tiny violins for her.

She was like, it's so hard being on a TV show.

And sometimes I can't say no.

And I was just thinking, like, say no to what?

And I feel like she's talking about alcohol

in addition to like producer involvement.

And like, but I really feel like, yeah, and of course no one wants to blame their behavior on being drunk.

But like she was so drunk that night.

And I don't know.

I just, if I ever got a chance to speak with her, I would definitely follow up on what she was doing.

Yeah, and then like she got really upset after that and walked off and was like, I want to quit this show.

And I really think like the show,

it's such a blessing and a curse for all for everyone who does reality TV.

But like it must be so, it must be such a mindfulness.

Especially when it's one of these shows, like kind of like Vanderpump Rules.

It's like so drinking is such an integral part of it.

Like you're really not interesting unless you're getting fucked up and doing something crazy.

Yeah.

Other notable highlights,

Cara was there looking so sick.

I mean, everybody looked so stunning, but Cara,

I followed her on Instagram last night.

I guess,

like, the look was that good.

And I was like, I've got to see what else she turns out on the daily, you know?

And she's just like so, she's such a good head on her shoulders.

And like, I, she's back in with the group now, which I'm happy about.

So I'm looking forward to like a season where she can just be herself and not be apologizing the whole time.

And it's just like crazy that she used to date Garrett, who's like, I couldn't think of way more opposite.

I couldn't think of two more opposite people.

What else happened?

Madison and Ish are pregnant, which we had spoke about, which is really, really cute.

It's crazy.

Like the turn Madison's life took is just not what I would have expected at all.

No, I know, but she's really like such a queen.

And she's like always the one who's like always friends with everyone and just the voice of reason.

And

she's really great.

So she's pregnant on the show or no?

Okay, so at the season finale, the last five minutes, like she brings Ish a cake that says we're pregnant, but I think that was filmed like months after everything else.

and then she told them she brought it up at the reunion and I like everyone was so excited she told them for the first time at the reunion unclear got it got it they made it seem like it was the first time it definitely wasn't well you know what I just feel good that like this was the first season without Alex Campo and I think everyone thought like the show revolved around him when like it so did not

Yeah, and so I just like really right now.

I'm thinking of Sam and Juliet and I just need to know what happened.

So

if anybody knows anything, just like, please let me know for like my own peace peace of mind.

Is this for the best?

Maybe it's for the best and I can, I can live with that.

But I just feel like he was so cute.

He was always so supportive.

Oh my God.

Juliet had her bikini launch party and she gave a speech and Sam put on the whole party like with all these cool activations and everything.

And she gave like the worst speech ever where she

cringeily congratulated Kelsey.

They were like not speaking.

They were not, they were in bad place.

And Juliet was like so excited to launch her label.

She's like, I also like, I know how hard it is to launch a bikini brand.

Like Kelsey, like just want to congratulate you too for doing it.

Like, you know, and I, I believe her heart was in the right place, but like Kelsey was like really like offended by it because like she barely wanted to be like seen at the party.

She was just like trying to like slip into the background.

And then like Madison was like, look around, like, look what you built.

And like, you're,

it feels like you're like,

you like, I think Juliette thought she was being magnanimous, but it just looks like she was sort of gloating.

Yeah.

You know?

And then in her speech, she didn't even thank Sam who put on the whole party.

Oh my gosh.

And then afterwards, she was like, oh my God, Sam, I forgot to thank you.

Like, I thank you so much.

And he was like, I don't do it for thanks.

It's okay.

And they were so cute.

I was just like, how are they not together?

Maybe they'll get back together.

I don't know.

Like, crazier things have happened.

It's not a different thing.

Crazier things have happened.

But like, they've been a little messy on social media.

And I do feel like that's, you can't.

It's a terrible sign.

You can't take it back is the problem.

Yeah.

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