S4 Ep142: Black Sabbath: Wednesday, August 11th, 2021

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy hump day.

Oh my god, I didn't even realize I feel like a reinvigorated spirit.

Happy hump day.

Hump someone you love.

I'm doing that today.

Theo's here finally on a hump day.

It's been a while.

And we're just ready to get down to let's get down to business.

I'm gonna talk as long as I can until Jackie's.

This might be a record for longish intro before I get to speak.

Theo is here, but he's on the floor, like on my blanket, just having a bone of a time.

So we're not gonna disturb him, but that's why this blanket is like messily next to me.

It's just because, like, Theo's living his best life, and who am I to disturb?

I think that maybe today I set the record for talking so long because, like, you finally mentioned it all yesterday.

I thought me mentioning it all would have the adverse effect where you're like super aware of it.

And it's like, good morning, Melanie's.

It's Wednesday.

How are you?

No, I'm just like now kind of like self-conscious, and like I find myself babbling on.

I'm like, is it too long?

Is it too short?

Should I say, should I go?

Like, you kind of made me, I don't know, like, hate myself.

Oh, I'm sorry.

That wasn't the intended effect.

It was just for you to be more mindful of it, you know?

Even I am.

We all want to say hello to the audience.

No, that's good.

I needed more things to be mindful of as it refers to like myself.

So I'm really grateful to have another thing that I should be insecure about.

I cannot thank you enough.

You are the most dramatic person alive.

That is true.

That is true.

We have an amazing show, you guys, because

Actually, not that much happened in the world yesterday, but you know, we could talk about.

Wait.

What's going down?

Theo's?

Wait, Theo?

Doo dad, doo.

Wait, Jackie, can you grab the bone?

It's red.

It looks like he's maybe like bleeding.

You see?

No, I think it's like bone stuff.

You sure?

I don't know.

Get it away from me.

Okay, let me see.

Ugh.

No, it's not bone stuff.

I feel like his gums are bleeding.

Oh, my God.

Do you have gingivitis, my boy?

I'm sorry.

I have to take this away from you.

Oh, my God.

And he's not going to be happy.

Right?

It's blood.

Yeah, and he has like red tint on his mouth.

Okay, can you keep talking?

I'm just going to toss this.

Sure.

I mean, I don't know how you segue from that.

Theo's bleeding from his mouth, but we do have a great show for you today.

I think Claudia was about to say that even though not much happened in the world yesterday, we can really talk about anything.

And most importantly, I feel as though we need to talk about Roni and Love Island.

Yeah, actually, I was going to say,

we have a really good TV recap because even though I would say both of the shows we're watching are definitely at some sort of crossroads in their entertainment value, I thought both of last night's episodes of respective shows were very thought-provoking.

And I do have some thoughts.

Finally.

I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

And with Love Island, there's been a lot of off-island drama because a lot of like the really hot contestants aren't even on the show.

Right.

So they're doing all these Instagram lives, dropping tea, speaking on conspiracy theories.

And I can't wait to get into it, honestly.

No, me too.

And so before we get into everything, so that we can get into all of that, I just want to let everyone know that we are recording The Redheads tonight, Clara and the Sun book review.

So if you have questions about the book, please email us at the Redheads Book Club at gmail.com.

And I don't know if you know this, but you can ask us anything about any book at the Redheads Book Club at gmail.com.

It doesn't matter.

I didn't know that.

It doesn't have to be Book of the Month specific.

It could be about like other books you saw us reading this month.

So I'm really excited to get back together with the girls because this episode was one week delayed.

And so it just feels like a super long time since I've seen all the gals.

The Jazzy gals are

the jazzy gals are getting back together.

And I finished the book last night and it was, it was a journey.

It really was.

And I think we're going to have some heated conversations because the snatcher made it known this morning.

She woke up and said, and wrote in the chat, this book is terrible.

She woke up and chose violence.

She woke up and chose violence.

I disagree with her personally.

I know Dana does too.

Rebecca said, I'm saving my thoughts for the episode.

So we don't even know what Rebecca thinks.

You know, I have a question because, like, when you're normally reading a book and you don't like it, you don't finish it.

As a redhead, can you not finish a book?

Like, it's part of your job.

It's never been done.

Right.

Okay.

It's never been done.

The job is to finish the book, you know?

Always.

And the thinking is that we're choosing books that are either have a good Goodreads rating, were New York Times bestsellers, were highly recommended.

So it's like someone somewhere said this book was good, just fucking finish it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know, I feel that.

I was just wondering about the logistics of what it entails to be a redhead.

And Clara and the Sun was a New York Times bestseller, and the author, Kazuo Ishiguro, is like, has Nobel Prize, laureate, all of the prizes.

So like, finish his book.

You know, and I feel like it's just really important that we respect New York Times best-selling authors around here.

I couldn't agree more, and that's what I do every day.

It's true.

You wake up and choose to respect New York Times best-selling authors.

Every day, in every way.

I had something else to say before we dive in.

Oh, yesterday was like the busiest day of my life.

We were just like busy, busy, busy with work.

And I spent every ounce of my free time looking for a new apartment.

And I actually spoke to a broker, like a very, you know, well

knowledged.

Was it Ramona Singer?

Oh my god, we have to talk about that.

But basically, I was told, like, what I want doesn't exist, you know?

Oh, really?

Why?

Which part of it?

Just all of it.

Like,

like type of building in certain location doesn't really exist.

And if it does, it's not going to have like the space that I want.

Like, it's just, I was told very firmly, like, what you want doesn't exist, especially in your budget.

Okay, so you have to let one part of the dream go.

I'm open.

Which part is going?

Okay, so, like, technically, I live in a one-bedroom right now.

And, like, it doesn't make sense to move on to another one-bedroom, but, like, I don't know, I could live without the second bedroom if I have like a little like office.

Like, you know what I mean?

A A little alcove.

Alcove.

I don't know.

I'm just, I said I'll look at anything and then everything I get sent.

Like, I just hate.

Right.

Or can't afford, which is like, what's more upsetting than looking at houses you can't afford?

Like, nothing.

No, nothing.

It's so sad.

It's like, work harder.

Do more.

Go on tour.

Okay.

You're doing it.

I know.

I'm just, I'm feeling, like, I was so disheartened.

It actually, like, after a long day of looking and searching and speaking, coming up with zero results, not that I'm going to find an apartment in a day, but just kind of being so disheartened, I felt like really sad.

I'm sorry.

It was emotional for for me.

And then I was just like looking around my stupid fucking apartment.

I'm like, you fucking bitch.

I still think we should do an apartment swap.

I think that would be hysterical.

Obviously, we'll patreon it and maybe we'll each get something out of it.

Really?

You want me sleeping in your bed?

Sure.

Okay.

Like, sure.

I don't know.

I just like have a lot to do before you come over.

Of course.

I mean, of course, I have to hide everything.

Yeah, like I just have things like that.

I need a safe.

Totally.

And there's nothing valuable in there.

No, no, no.

Just like

embarrassing personal items.

Totally, like certain pairs of underwear.

Like, just no.

Okay, I'll think about it.

Yeah, I think it could be fun.

But speaking of Patreon, we did post our first episode of the month yesterday to get ready with me.

I don't know, yesterday, I had a,

I had a certain joie de viv.

And I think I can kind of trace its origins to the Patreon because I was just feeling myself all day.

We took this picture for the toast.

I looked so cute and like.

everything of the sort.

And then like when I got home, I just like didn't take my makeup off.

I was just like walking around the house, like doing chores, feeling like a goddess.

And I think I should Patreon every morning because like I felt so good about myself.

And then this morning I woke up with nothing, no Patreon.

I was just like back to my, I felt like I feel pretty.

Like I had that one day of like ultimate energy and confidence.

And then like today, I hit my head on the solar cycle bike and I'm back to being normal.

Yeah, I feel that.

Well, I'm sorry, but I'm glad you had that yesterday.

And I did watch your Patreon video and it was very fun to watch.

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Exactly.

Okay, now I think without further ado.

Yeah, like let's

do the damn thing.

Let's jump right in.

Oh, just, I'm sure it's not a story, but I did see Michelle's trailer for the upcoming season of her bachelorette journey.

And I just have to say, like, boy, did they do Katie dirty?

Like, there's just been, like, from what I've seen, like, very low budget, very, you know, sponsored by Cole's energy in all of her assets that are coming out from her season, the premiere.

And Michelle's was just like back to that glamorous, like, I think one of the best ones was Hannah Brown.

Like, you know, she was Cinderella in a forest, you know?

Yeah.

And Michelle was giving that energy, like big ball down.

And Katie, we had that skirt.

Yeah, we had the skirt and like the swing.

She was a sweet skin.

She was a t-shirt.

And Team Katie.

Yeah, and over a dress and with purple sequins.

Yeah.

And she was just in like some studio with like a white background in studio saddle.

It was sad.

Michelle, they brought back the budget has been brought back.

It was really glamorous.

Okay, that's really nice to hear.

And I really do think that those photos...

contributed greatly to us not watching katie season like if that's the looks we're being served on day one katie team katie over over a sparkly purple dress.

No, but let's dive into the narrative there.

Who is she playing?

Like, who was she up against?

The world?

Like, I don't know Team Katie versus Team Who.

I think, I think it was like a Jesenya?

An homage to when Katie took on the girls.

Okay, but the girls were right.

Oh, actually, no, Katie was right.

Katie was right.

Therefore, Team Katie.

I can't go back to Jay.

I can't go back to Stark Place.

Let's Let's move on.

Come on.

Without further ado, to do to do, where are you?

Right here being perfect.

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First story: David Schwimmer is not dating Jennifer Anniston despite online rumors, Rep says.

So I'm sure you guys all saw the rumors yesterday that David Schwimmer and Jennifer Anniston were canoodling,

but they are not currently dating despite the rumors.

After the tabloid Closer published a report earlier this week claiming that the two stars were romantically involved, a rep for David Schwimmer told the UK outlet The Sun that there is, quote, no truth to the rumors.

So I saw the rumors, but I also followed Dumas and Dumas said like hard no.

So I never really believed them because for the most part on stuff like that, Dumas isn't always right, but for the most part, they get it right.

But

I would be remiss, devastated, and heartbroken if I didn't at least fantasize about what a world would look like with the two of them together.

Right.

And I guess at the special, they talked about how they had a crush on each other like throughout the years, but it was never at the right time.

One of them was always in a relationship.

They were kind of like passing ships.

So it kind of is like a nice,

maybe them both finding out that they were into each other at the reunion sparked, and they're both single, sparked them going out now.

Yeah.

But that didn't happen.

I think they always knew, like back when the show was on, they knew that the other had feelings for them, but like life just got in the way.

Right.

And I do agree, I would have put like a beautiful bow on this whole story if this is how it ended.

But we live.

in a sad world and we don't get happy endings like this.

So I didn't believe it, but I did kind of fantasize about what that would look like and how wonderful it would be.

One, because

obviously, just like if you're a friends fan, it's just like life imitating art and it's stunning.

But then also it just made me like kind of happy for Jen.

Like I do think that could be the one relationship that would get her out of this Brangelina endless tabloid cycle.

Like I think that could be it.

Yeah, like the one that would one up because it's very, very difficult for her to find someone who like the public will ever care more about.

And to get out of the shadow, like even when she was in that really long-term relationship with Justin Thoreau, all of the tabloids was like, well, what does Brad think?

Like it was just so toxic because he, no offense, is a nobody.

Like nobody cares.

But if she had this, you know, David David Schwimmer thing, there's so much history there.

He's so famous.

The people would chip so hard potentially more than her and Brad.

And I think we would actually, 20 years later, finally move on from that narrative.

So honestly, she should just date him for that reason alone.

She should think about it.

You know, why not?

Why not?

I don't know.

I'm sure at this point they know each other a little too well.

And it's like you can never, you can never look at someone like that in a romantic way when you've like seen them inside and out.

Well, I do want to say that one thing I thought the friends reunion was kind of missing or just like didn't really give me any insight on is it had taken them so long to all get in the same room together.

And the girls were really friendly, but there was a lot of moments where the cast had like alluded to someone not being down for a reunion, someone being difficult.

And I assumed it was always like David Schwimmer who was like toxic in the group and after the show like

kind of did his own thing.

And they never really, like they said, we haven't all been together in, you know, why not?

And I do think like David Schwimmer, and I don't know this fair fact, like is like a dick.

You think he's he's the one who wouldn't get together?

I do.

It's not any of the girls.

So three of them are best friends.

They hang out all the time.

So it's definitely one of the guys.

And I remember just like seeing interviews where

everyone was alluding to the fact that it was David Schwimmer.

Okay.

But then also, like, I want to think David Twimmer is a dick, but then, do you remember

when he trolled on the internet?

Basically, this guy, I want to say in London, was caught on security footage sitting from a grocery store and they like sent the picture out to the news outlets.

Sorry.

To news outlets being like, if you know know this guy?

And the guy was literally like David Trimmer.

Like, the guy looked so, and so David Trimmer like set up a photo shoot where he like was stealing from a grocery store and was looking at the security camera.

So then I'm like, well, if you do that, you have to be funny and like nice.

No, you might just have like good PR and indeed a sense of humor, but it still doesn't make you funny or nice.

That's true.

That's true.

Yeah.

Okay, I'm just like Tor.

I'm like, who is the real David Trimmer?

If anyone is related to him, like as your uncle, like, is he nice?

Does he come to family barbecues?

I feel like he definitely doesn't.

He definitely doesn't.

He definitely doesn't host them, but he might not even attend.

Are you ready for our next story?

Which it was just like some exciting news and something that I've been wanting to talk about.

Sure.

Addison Rae talks Courtney Kardashians cameo in He's All That.

She says we got very fortunate.

So I don't know if you have seen the He's All That trailer.

I have, of course.

You have.

And I don't know if you at home have seen it.

It's on Addison Rae's Instagram.

It looks so fucking good.

Do you agree?

Yes, it looks very cute.

I mean, I'm always skeptical of trailers, obviously.

But she looks great.

The premise, it really looks like they remained, they didn't touch the premise.

They just flipped it.

Flipped it.

She just gender swap, which is so 2021.

So I am very hopeful for sure.

Yeah.

And she looked like she was a decent actress.

I totally agree.

And fans were definitely shocked to see that Courtney Kardashian makes a cameo

in the movie.

So she opened up, Addison spoke to Access on Tuesday about...

Courtney's cameo and the project.

When asked how Courtney landed the small role in the movie, Addison said, I thought it'd be so incredible.

She's an amazing friend of mine, amazing mentor and person.

We got very fortunate that it ended up working out and I'm very thankful for her.

When asked how the two get along, Addison said she and Courtney, quote, are really similar in temperament and interests.

I think both of us are very honest people and we like a lot of the same things.

It started off with both of us just loving to work out.

We were doing that together a lot.

She's just a very real person and honest.

She's been so helpful to me in every way.

She's such a good person to lean on.

Well, honestly, now that I know that working out is the way to Courtney Kardashian's heart, I can safely say we'll never be friends.

Right.

Um, which is upsetting because I just wasn't like,

I shouldn't see that for myself learning today that I would never be friends with Courtney Kardashian.

But I do have to say, that's a first of all, that whole like speech about Courtney Kardashian is so lovely.

Like, glowing review.

I mean, like, it kind of really just speaks to the person Addison Ray is.

Like, she's really like a nice girl.

Yeah.

I hope.

Like, again, I don't know her, but I know that.

I know in my soul.

Yeah.

And honestly, so nice of Courtney to do this.

Like, Courtney's obviously too famous, like, be in a teen drama, but the synergy is so fabulous.

I'm sure it was like really fun.

Courtney acted in the first season of Dave.

She was pretty good.

Like, I actually think this will be great.

I think it's going to be great.

I think it's going to be so fun to see her.

The movie comes out pretty soon.

I'm really just excited for it.

Like, it's a reboot that looks like it's going to hold its own.

And the original, what's her name?

Rachel Lee.

Rachel Lee Cook is in it as Addison Addison.

Oh, my God.

As Addison's mom, right?

Yes.

That's like a great way to kind of come full circle.

I love that.

And it also looks like they use social media, but like, I think in a way that's not cringy.

Yeah, Netflix is very touch and go with how they refer to social media.

Like, what they did to social media in Emily and Paris, disgraceful.

But how they use like phones in like to all the boys I love before and even the kissing booth, like really cute.

It's like actually have teens communicate.

Right.

So I think that this movie is going to be really good stuff.

And I think it's just going to be the beginning of a long, beautiful career for Addison.

Me too.

I'm very excited.

And also it's worth mentioning, speaking of Netflix, you know, the kissing booth 3 dropped today.

I heard you complaining about it this morning.

Yeah, for those who have been on the journey with me, I was so in love with Kissing Booth 1.

I couldn't talk to Ben for like two days.

I was like, you're not Jacob Alordi.

Like, leave me alone.

Like, I'm 17 and I live in LA.

Like, don't talk to me.

And then I watched All the Boys I Love Before and I was like, oh my God, I didn't think The Kissing Booth could get any better.

This is the best movie I've ever seen to All the Boys I Love Before.

Then I went back to watching The Kissing Booth after kind of having my tastes elevated.

And I was like, I cannot believe I ever even finished this movie.

It's so atrocious like it's horrible it's offensive actually and then the kissing booth 2 came out and I didn't even finish it so I'm not gonna be watching the kissing booth 3 I believe they left the kissing booth 2 on a cliffhanger like she got into two schools east coast west coast east coast west coast where will she go noah's on the east coast

lee the brother are those their names noah

lee does sound familiar yeah and lee and noah for sure lee's on the west coast like whatever so dumb um

And also, like, just the sheer fact that Jacob Alorty and Joey King broke up after the first movie and then had to film two other movies together when they clearly despised each other.

There's no Twilight.

No, no, no.

And even sometimes I think that people can work together after breaking up.

It's very hard, but I think they might be...

Jacob Alorty and Joey King might be the two worst people to ever do it.

Like, they had the most tension.

They didn't even film half their scenes together, you could tell, because they couldn't be in the same room.

That's really so cool.

They're on par with filming high school music called the Musical of the Series, like season two.

Yeah.

I actually think probably Olivia Rodrigo had it worse just because like she's super young and like

it was probably really tough.

Yeah.

But that's like an interesting thing to go down.

That's why it's like great when Castmates Date, but it's also potentially.

No, but it's great because it's what sets the chemistry.

It sets the great movies from the good ones.

Have you seen any episodes of Riverdale ever since Cole Sprouse and Lily Reinhart broke up?

I think I have.

I watched last season.

I watched the seasons when they're done.

So I think I have one season to watch.

But are they still together in the show?

Spoiler alert?

When I was last watching, yeah, I think they'll always be together.

They really are endgame.

But then it fast-forwarded like five years or something.

Are they endgame?

Because I always thought that like Archie and

Betty were endgame.

In the comic books, I think Archie and Betty are endgame.

In the show.

Yeah, of course, in the comic books, for sure.

But in the show, they really like made it clear that like Betty and Jughead are endgame.

And also like Varchie is endgame.

I love Varchi so much.

I did too, but like, I don't know.

There's something about Barchi that's just

worth exploring.

Varchi is, you're, there's something about Barchi.

No, ugh, no, no, no.

He needs the edge of Veronica to make him interesting.

Well, also, can we talk about for a minute those comic books?

Yeah.

I like literally used to live and I used to read them over and over again.

Like those, they were like short little magazines.

Yeah.

I used to read them at camp, right?

So good.

So good.

I wonder if if I picked one up now.

Like, would I even be moderately interested in it?

Because it's, like, dumb.

I don't know.

But it's not dumb because it's like,

so much goes into it, you know?

No, totally.

So much character development.

So much character development, like, so much artwork.

Like, it's not.

It's actually not dumb.

Yeah.

Like, I always wanted to be Veronica.

Like, I knew I was a baddie.

No.

No, I'm not.

No, I think you're actually probably closer to Veronica.

I really wanted to be Veronica.

And I think, actually, as this, I stopped reading them like years ago, but I think as the storyline developed, Jughead came out as queer, right?

Yes.

Yes.

That was a nice development that they did.

I think

spoiler alert.

Yeah, I took a class in college that was all about, I forgot what the name of the class was, but at one point we studied comics.

And I'm pretty sure that Archie, Spoiler Alert, in the comics, diesel.

Dies.

Yeah.

Very sad.

Dramatic.

Yeah.

And just like, that is like a moment of like a time capsule of my life that I had looked back on so fondly.

Like, remember those, what were those circle stationaries that you would like collect?

Oh, what were they called?

Those circle postcards.

And they had like

cartoons on them.

And they were like valuable.

Wasn't it like David and Goliath or something?

Or were those?

David and Goliath was a camp brand, but not the postcards.

Hold on.

Circle camp postcards.

This is going to be cool.

They were collectibles.

Like, you wouldn't actually send the postcards.

Margot Lewin will know.

Yeah, for sure.

You have to text her.

Yeah.

She'll know in two seconds.

Hold on.

There was so much fun stuff like that.

I know.

That was like my favorite part of going to camp.

What were those postcards that we used to collect at camp, question mark?

They were circle postcards and they were like collectible?

I think they were circle something.

Like if I ever, oh no, I just got a text from Con Ed, heat wave in your area.

Oh, God.

If there's a blackout with the heat, like seriously, I'm moving to Alaska.

I'm going to make a gazpacho.

I didn't know what you were going to say.

Because

when it's a snow day, we make a chili.

Chili.

When there's a heat wave, we make a gazpacho.

No, that's fair.

I mean, mean, I would rather dive in eat gazpacho.

Like, I hate soup and cold soup.

It can be quite refreshing.

Maybe I'll make like an ice cream-based gazpacho.

Nice.

With a little chocolate syrup ganache.

Anyways, Addison's movie comes out August 27th.

I really am so excited.

And I also wanted to say, because on the same day, I did see the trailer for Cinderella.

Oh.

And I am, this is me walking back

to what I said because it looks really good.

Really?

And I think the article made it seem more annoying than it is.

Okay.

Okay.

Also, really quickly, just because you brought up Camille Cabello, I saw the most interesting TikTok today.

Oh my god, my mother.

Oh my God.

The disrespect.

Oh my God.

You're not disrespecting New York Times best-selling authors.

Shit, I'm so sorry.

Sorry, you're not respecting.

I saw this TikTok today that I thought was really interesting, and I had known some of the facts, but like a bunch of songs that Camilla Cabello has turned down or either backed out of.

Like, I think everyone knows that she got the middle.

The middle.

And like two weeks before it was supposed to come out, her team advised her not to because Havana was climbing the charts so that one I actually understood the reasoning behind it because Havana did end up going number one she also um

pulled out of closer halsey so baby pull me closer it's about to come out okay and she also recorded a demo of God is a woman and actually wrote a couple of the verses and then was like it's not my vibe and gave a Tariana grande so like that's like She's 0 for 3.

No, she's not.

I mean, Closer, I don't understand, but the song wound up being so good, and I actually can't imagine Camilla on it.

And I hear what she's like, God is a Woman, like, isn't my favorite song.

I have to say, when I heard the demo, Do Not Comfort Me, I just thought the style fit Camilla Cabello so much better.

It's actually, all the demos are online.

Like, you can go googling.

BB Rexa actually has a demo of the middle.

14 girls tried out for the middle.

And it's really interesting to hear their takes.

And I thought the God is a Woman Camilla Cabello version was actually really good.

Okay, interesting.

Yeah.

I'll check it out.

Are you ready for our next story?

Hold on.

I got a text from Margot Lowen about this.

I got a text.

Oh,

they're called circle cards.

That's what I said.

Circle something.

They're called circle cards.

Okay.

Maybe that's just what we called them.

Circle cards.

That just like doesn't, you know, when you're really wondering something and then you find out and it like feels so good.

Hold on.

That didn't do it.

But like when I'm gonna Google circle cards, that's not what I'm gonna get, you know?

I think that was just what we called them.

Yeah, like what's the brand?

There's a brand.

And what was the David and Goliath brand?

Was that clothing?

That was like boys Boy, singing.

Throw the rocks at them.

Violent.

Were they on pajamas?

Yes, they were on pajamas.

They probably did some other stuff too, but like it was those little cartoons that was like,

throw rocks at boys.

Oh, and floaties.

Remember those

shoes?

Yeah, you know, actually, like, I didn't have a pair of floaties, and that was kind of like my personal cross to bear.

Yeah.

Because they were like expensive.

And I remember our parents would be like, you want rubber flip-flops?

Like, it was, but everyone had them at camp.

And there was a girl in my bunk.

actually they were twins and their dad owned a store in the city that sold the floaties so he sent up like a whole box of floaties for the bank for the bunk and jackie i was like literally walking on cloud nine literally and figuratively i'm like i got fucking floaties gotta get me a pair of floaties they're kind of like styling now yeah that's they're they were cool they were always cool except they would like tear after wearing them one time right but that's also because we wore them in the shower

totally

and also like we wear them to the shower shower like and to the camp social.

Like they were just kind of like casual attire, business attire.

Give you a shoe that can do both.

Black tie.

Are you ready for our next story?

I don't know.

Walking down memory lane kind of has me feeling all nostalgic like I want to digitize some of my old photos and videos.

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This is a question for you, do you kind of envision in your head you know we have stored somewhere and like you're just dying to kind of like some definitely like

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what the critics

eBird and Roper who's that two thumbs up.

Eberten.

Okay, Ebert and Roper are critics, like theater critics.

Okay.

It's just like, but it's also from the Kanye song, like, Two Thumbs Up.

Okay, so you.

Ebert and Roper.

So what memory?

Some really award-winning performances of ours because we used to give, we used to perform in our living room like every single night.

In full like drag.

We had this chest full of like

gowns.

showas, gowns, crowns that were all from like, you know, costume stores, but like we thought they were literally like Chanel.

And we would fight over dresses.

You know, every night like after dinner, it was dinner and a show in the house.

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No, we would work.

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Next up, I usually don't like talking about hair style changes news, but Machine Gun Kelly revealed a dramatic head tattoo as he shaved his hair off.

The 31-year-old rapper posted a photo to social media on Tuesday revealing he had recently shaved off all his signature blonde locks.

This is quite the identity shift, given that his Instagram bio simply reads the blonde dawn.

The pic showed off a prominent tattoo.

The blonde domes or the grand domme?

Both.

The pic showed off a prominent tattoo on the top of his head, which can be seen in the screenshot below.

Have you seen it?

Yeah, the arrow, right?

Yeah.

Oh, no, it's not an arrow.

It's like a symbol.

It's like a triangle with a cross in the middle.

Or no, maybe like a dime.

It's like a rhombus.

I'm not going to pretend that I understand.

And I'm just really shocked by it.

I know, because

I feel like I've,

I've said this many times, like I'm very into Machine Gun Kelly, you know,

physically.

And emotionally, of course.

And of course, musically.

But artistically, creatively.

Yeah, metaphysically.

but um it's gonna be a no for me maybe it's just it's first of all it's the worst photo like it's so blurry he's like sitting in his car it's a selfie maybe if i see it stylized but the look but anyway it's giving me very

um

i didn't want to say don't say yeah but i think we all know what it's giving i think we all know what's we all know what it's giving there's a lot of people who look like that in prison.

Oh, that's not what I was thinking, but.

What were you thinking?

Like, he, yeah,

he looks fucking crazy.

Yeah.

Like, honestly.

Yeah.

I mean, hair grows back, so that's fine.

And I guess even if he gets back to those, like, blonde locks, he'll always have like the widow's peak now, part of his tattoo showing.

Oh, you're right.

You know, because it goes down the forehead.

Do you think that

the tattoo was always under the hair?

Do you think that no, okay,

I was wondering that, but then no, because like look at this picture, he doesn't have it that far down.

But now, zooming in it could be a wig it could be a

just a um oh I would love that it could be makeup and prosthetics for a music video or something because I don't think he would do this I don't but also if it is a real tattoo and he had it before his hair was super long and he's been wearing it like in front of his like hanging in front of his forehead so like don't look self-conscious about the way we say forehead now people are like

forehead is that how you're supposed to say it that sounds so wrong forehead this picture his hair is up it's with Megan, Kelly.

So either he shaved his head and got the tattoo, or this is kind of like a look for a video, a stunt.

I'm going to hope and pray on stunt.

Me too.

And I hope if it's not a stunt, he got Megan's kind of input.

Not approval, but input.

So I think when you're going to make a dramatic change to your appearance, you don't need your partner's approval necessarily because it's your...

body do whatever you want but like they have to look at you every day so it should be a little bit conversation of a collaborative decision.

I think for a man, yeah,

but like for a woman, like I'm gonna do what I want.

Like, like the first time I got Botox or lip filler, like me and Ben had like a full conversation about it.

And now, if like we go to the plastic surgeon and she has like a new technique, like I'm not talking to men about it, right?

But because at the end of the day, it doesn't really change your appearance.

And if you didn't tell Ben that you got Botox, he would never know.

If you came home with your head shaved and a tattoo on your scalp, lip filler.

It doesn't change your appearance like that much.

Well, it depends how much you you get.

But say you were going to get a pixie cut.

Would you run it by Ben?

No, I would just run off a cliff because I'm like not doing that.

No, but like say you were gonna

get a face tattoo.

Okay.

Would you run it by Ben?

Yeah, of course.

That's what I'm saying.

Unless it's like a surprise that it's like I heartban on my face.

Because it's for him.

Yeah, right.

And that's the only way he wouldn't be mad.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

It's a little TV news that I think is going to shock you because it shocked me a little bit.

The White Lotus has been renewed by HBO for a second season with a new cast of characters at a new resort,

a new premise.

It's giving me very much why women kill.

Like, season, you fall in love with the characters.

There's a whole story.

And then the next season, I'm sure there are other shows like this, but this is the one that comes to mind.

And then the next season, it's like, we don't know anyone.

It's a totally new show, new cast, new location, new house, new everything.

Yes.

So apparently, White Lotus is, you know, super buzzy and people are really liking it.

I don't know them, but some people are.

Actually, I saw it.

It's like True Detective.

Okay.

I saw on Toast After Dark that some people were really liking it.

No, a lot of people are really liking it.

I'm not disliking it.

I just like.

I just, it's so stupid.

No, I'm not disliking it either.

I just feel like I watch it all weekend and I only watch two episodes.

Like, that's the sign of a not good show.

Yeah, I started like catching up two days ago, and I don't even think I finished the episode I was watching.

I heard that episode five is like where shit starts, but like, really, I have to watch five hours just to get some, like, action.

And it's just like the whole show is so frustrating.

Like, I just want to shake some of these people.

Oh, my God.

Totally.

You know?

Totally.

Especially Connie Britton's son.

Oh, hang out.

But I feel like he's so far the only one.

Well, I guess you're a little bit behind me, but so far he's the only one who's like

having, like, allowing.

Maybe because his phone got washed away, but like

he sleeps on the beach and the tide takes his phone.

And so like, he doesn't have one.

So he has to like snorkel with his dad.

And he's like starting to get like into like just like the beautiful scenery around him.

So I feel like so far he's the only one who's like developing a little bit.

Growing.

Growing.

The daughter connie britton's daughter i think is my least favorite yeah character

she's like a really annoying yeah she's really annoying i don't know where it's going with her but i just can tell she's like a toxic friend totally you know yeah no i'm just like i probably will finish it but i've had so much on my contemplate between the olympics and love island and just like all the housewives like i just

OBX, Love is Blind after the altar.

Like there's just so much.

Like I'm choking.

And White Lotus is having to take a back seat.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

But it is nice watching a show.

Maybe after after watching all this reality TV, it's nice to watch a show that's so stunningly done, you know?

It's gotta visit the White Lotus.

Right.

And apparently they filmed it during lockdown.

They took over this whole hotel.

And while so many other productions and crews had to stop working, they were actually able to film it.

Because they created their own bubble.

Right.

That's cool.

That is cool.

But then, like, the next time they want to take over the hotel, it's probably going to cost more.

Yeah, no, probably no one was at the hotel.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, so that's exciting content news.

And

the finale of White Lotus is on Sunday.

So I think we should, if there's going to be a big drop like The Undoing, we should be caught up.

Okay.

I'll do my best, but like honestly, no promises.

I'm so overwhelmed with content.

Yeah, and I personally, and so maybe if you don't want to watch, normalize not watching because I'm over watching things that don't bring me joy, inner peace, and some sort of like,

result.

Betterment.

Yeah, but I also think that you have a very high bar for that.

Whereas like I do the same, but my bar is pretty low.

Yeah, but then it's like funny.

Like, I still have the tolerance for white lotus, and you don't.

It's so bad.

It's like, and I honestly, I'm just shocked that people are loving it.

I'm like, what am I not seeing?

I'm like, it's perfect.

I love Connie Britton.

I love Jennifer Coolidge.

Like, it should be like my show.

Yeah.

Like, Jennifer Coolidge with her massage, like, I'm just not understanding the whole thing.

Yeah, I agree.

But maybe what?

Maybe it's a slow burn with a big payoff.

We'll see.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story that's going to lead into our TV recap?

What is it?

It's the final story.

I started out too high on that one.

Yeah, and you were like a little off tempo, but I'm not judging.

Sounds like you are.

Anyways, fifth and final story that has to do with Real Houses of New York will lead into our TV recap.

Dorinda Medley lists her Berkshires estate, Bluestone Manor on Airbnb.

She was also on Watch Trappins Live last night, which I found to be appalling.

I didn't watch.

And I'm just like, they must be really struggling to get New York-based guests.

And so I'm just going to chalk it up to that.

No, I'm not going to chalk it up to that.

I'm going to chalk it up to like, she will be back on the show at some point.

But, and given this news, I think that's for the best.

Right.

I think she's

struggling financially.

The former Real House Eyes of New York City star listed her Berkshire's home on Airbnb with the proceeds benefiting the Ronald McDonald.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I take back everything I said.

I'm a bitch.

I'm a disgusting.

I didn't know that either.

I didn't know that either.

She said, Let me tell you when they first approached me.

Of course, I was like, Well, first of all, there's something magical about Bluestone Manor.

It's almost like an urban legend.

People think I'm like Cinderella in that castle you see at Disneyland.

Like, I don't think people really get it's real.

In their minds, it's a sort of stage set that was made for Bravo.

Right.

But obviously, the house is super iconic now, and it's actually a pretty good business idea.

I mean, knowing that the purses are going to charity is really nice, and now it's like, of course, you know,

the more the merrier.

But when I first saw the story, I thought this was just like a new business project for her.

But like, Bluestone Manor could be, you know, the Gracie Mansion of housewives fans touring.

No, for sure.

It's definitely like a good business idea.

Gracie Mansion, Graceland.

Oh, oh, I'm like, Gracie Mansion.

Yes, I agree, but I just don't think that's realistic, seeing as how it's her primary residence.

And it's like so

emotional, it's such like an emotional place for her.

I don't think she wants like a million strangers.

And I'm sure for the charity one, it's gonna be expensive, like not a million people, it'll probably be like a couple people who book it.

And I'm pretty sure I saw there's only like two dates that it's available.

It's like one night only.

This is like a special thing that she's doing.

But I think like just

thinking about this holistically, maybe there are some other iconic homes in the housewives community where other women could do this too.

It's like, you know, going on a real housewives tour when you go to New York City, like it could be like a little museum of sorts.

Yeah, no.

Sonia could do it with her townhouse.

A hundred percent.

What else?

Let me think.

Other, like, I mean, Heather's home in the Berkshires that has no air conditioning.

No, but like they went to the Berk, to Dorina's house every season for like five years.

They went there once.

I don't know if there's anything else like that in the Housewives franchise that they go to every year.

Yeah.

Ramona's house in the Hamptons.

Kind of stunning.

Yeah.

Not my aesthetic on the outside, but that piece of property.

If she put it up for rent on the Airbnb, she would get people who just like want to go to the Hamptons.

It wouldn't be like this iconic.

No, I have seen Ramona's house on Out East.

She does rent it out the winter months and like she probably makes a ton of money from it because it's like a mansion.

Yeah.

She probably makes like 30 grand a month, maybe more.

So I feel like maybe if this charity endeavor goes well, I could see Dorinda making this a business.

Yeah.

Even though I actually can't see see it just because it's a place that like is so near and dear to her heart.

Like Richard bought it for her.

It's like her place with Richard.

Richard, I don't know if she wants people like roaming the halls.

Yeah.

But Brian has been.

He said it's amazing.

For the right price, though?

Yeah.

Let them roam.

Let them roam.

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Okay, Real Houses of New York.

Before we get into the train wreck that was Ramona, because that's obviously worth talking about.

The sacrilegious event that took place last night.

No, that's not even what I was going to say.

My God was Leah annoying me so much on the FaceTime.

And I know like when you look at it, Ramona was being rude, like telling her to shut up.

Oh, what's rude is that like you're at this woman's house who put together this evening for you and you're all passing around around a phone talking to this girl through the phone.

First of all, I understand that it was like Leah wanted to do the blessing.

Like I really do, but like honestly, she made the whole event about her when she wasn't even there.

She was being so fucking annoying.

Ebony, can you lift me up?

Ebony, I can't hear.

Shut up.

Like this woman's talking.

You're in her house.

And it was distracting all the women who are so easily distracted.

And I saw a lot of people being like, Ramona was being mean to Leah.

I'm sorry.

I would have done the same thing.

It was bothering me so much.

I didn't think she was mean for one second.

She literally said, Leah, we love you.

We wish you were here.

We miss you, but we can't keep bringing the conversation back to you.

And like, I don't know what Leah expected.

like when you come in on zoom you're sitting you don't get a neck to turn your head or if you're gonna be FaceTime on the table yeah you're gonna be the size of the can of delta fish like what do you think was gonna happen no totally like so that was really really frustrating and I also felt like the women um attacking Ramona already for just telling Leah to kind of shut up was not that's why she was like in a weird place but oh my god like her saying about all the Jewish people right all the jewish people that were mean to her in high school and then leah was like it probably wasn't just jewish people everyone hated you in high school she was really i wanted to shake her and tell her to shut the fuck up because like she just made herself look so bad and it was more than just her usual like not wanting to talk about serious stuff it was she took it to another level and then like running away and crying and then being like i had to pee well really you didn't say you had to pee you got up and said i'm getting up because no one's listening to me so she was like gaslighting everyone she was being so insane and then that poor woman archie even though like her event was really bizarre, like with the

like the decorations on the table and there was like a cage in her living room.

Did you see that?

This, the thing behind her.

It was like a metal cage.

It looks like a classroom.

The aesthetic was very bizarre and the event turned into a very bizarre evening.

I did feel bad for her.

She was like, I want to apologize on behalf of the Jews.

Like that's really not what this event was about.

And honestly, I was actually really interested in to hear what she was about to say before everyone interrupted her.

Like, you know, the long history of the communities, the long relationship of the black community and the Jewish community, like two oppressed communities.

I was actually really interested in to hear, and we never got there.

Right.

And that's probably what I'm most mad at Ramona about, like that she couldn't just, she could have said whatever she wanted to say, like at a later date in the conversation, but she was just taking up all the oxygen.

And I mean, the whole episode, I was, I was curious about what was going to happen at the Shabbat dinner at Black Shabbat and like just what it was going to be about.

And the sorry, the Black Seder.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

For those who don't know, Seder is a meal you have on one of the holidays.

It's a Passover.

You've had it.

It's in Judaism.

Like, it's funny.

I guess you have it like at one time in the year.

If Shabbat is once a week.

By the way, also, them referring to it as Black Sabbath.

Oh, man, that's like a ban.

That was so, it's Ozzy Osborne's ban.

Right.

They were being funny, like, about the verbiage, I have to say.

So I was going into the whole evening with an open mind, like excited to see what they were going to show about Judaism and

who we were going to hear from.

And it just all was like a big failure.

on so many levels.

And

maybe if Leah had been there, it would have been better just because, like, she is converting and it is interesting.

And I thought she did do a very nice job with the prayer, yeah, of course.

But, like, oh my god, up leading up to that, I literally wanted to throw the phone.

If I was her mother, I would have thrown the phone down the toilet.

But the whole thing made no sense.

And why are we in New Jersey at Archie's?

Like, who is she?

Why are these women in New Jersey?

I literally felt like I just cut to Real Houses of New Jersey.

Like, I just didn't understand.

And I feel like Ebony didn't never got a chance, or maybe it was cut to like make clear what we're doing here.

Yeah, you know, yeah, I just think like I really do commend Ebony because she's really trying to bring a lot of her culture and other cultures into this group.

And it's, she just like is now 0 for 2.

Yeah.

Hard alumni and now this.

Like

they don't want to, they don't care, you know?

And I thought actually the most well-behaved, a lot of people aren't even talking about how like Sonia was also atrocious.

Atrocious.

The blacks.

Like she was just, sorry, I'm not PC.

And then she apparently gets drunk and peas in the driveway.

Like her behavior is so atrocious.

And like she makes every, like like Ramona is so annoying on her own, but then you have like Sonia parroting Ramona, like just attacking everything she's saying.

And it's like,

there's two annoying people in the room.

And like Sonia was, I don't know if she thought she was helping, but she really did.

She really wasn't.

And it also started, she started, like, it's so weird that Sony and Ramona are so close when like Sonia jumps down Ramona's

like the second they sat down.

Right, just about what she said to Leah, which wasn't even really bitchy or anything.

So like, of course, Ramona's already like in Ramona mode.

And And like so just like she does not, if she actually is trying to like help move the conversation forward, she's doing a terrible job.

The honestly the person who deserves an honorable mention is the most well-behaved Luanne.

Honestly, forgot she was there because she just sat like she was supposed to and shut up and like even if she didn't care about what anyone was saying, you're respectful in someone's house like of what's going on.

And then Ramona going into the kitchen to get food.

Like she's an animal.

Yeah.

She's so hard to defend sometimes, but sometimes I really feel like she does get

like an unfair treatment, but then sometimes she acts like she she did last night, and it's impossible to defend her.

Well, I will say, I watched her last week on Watch What Happens Live, and they played like a segment, like, do you regret that?

And Andy says, Do you regret how you acted at Black Shabbat?

And she really, really did.

But then they brought up all these other times that she acted kind of badly on the show, and she was like, No, I don't.

Yeah.

She actually didn't really even say that she felt bad about Black Shabbat.

Andy like coerced her.

He was like, You should.

You acted atrociously.

But she.

She understood that.

Yeah.

So, I mean, maybe we'll have to wait till the reunion because she should have been on Watch What Happens Live last night or like next week.

Totally.

but

i was just like wholly confused after the episode yeah it was so weird and honestly i was laughing at those uh two of ebony's friends i don't remember their names who were just like sitting there watching this train wreck yeah and drinking margaritas like it was so funny imagine it's like it's a circus it's a circus and it's actually crazy there's only four of them at that dinner i was just thinking i'm like this these this is the whole chaos like leah's on the phone whatever like this is it like this is as good as it gets it's crazy yeah it was honestly like like the whole episode was a train wreck.

Like, you couldn't look away.

No, I just want to say that I actually think Ramona would be a very good realtor.

Yes.

Oh, that's what we were saying.

She has such realtor energy.

She has realtor energy.

She has a million fancy friends.

And the guy was like, real estate is a really competitive business.

And she's like, I'm a really competitive person.

She really is such a hustler.

Like, she has a number of jobs right now.

Like, she doesn't need to, like, keep, keep working, but she, like, wants to work and do more and learn.

And I actually kind of enjoyed this scene.

Me too.

That apartment was stunning.

Right, so it was like on a remote, I was in a good place with Ramona at the beginning of the episode.

Watching that, um,

and then I wasn't watching that segment with the apartment, like after hunting for an apartment all day, like was an especially tough blow.

Oh, I'm sure.

It was like rubbing salt in my wound, yeah, because it was like a double-decker terrace, so sick columns outside the terrace, like standalone tub, tub with a big window, kitchen with you know, laundry and

all of these amenities, wine fridge.

if it makes you feel any better it didn't seem like the location that you would want to be in because I actually know where exactly where that building is is it where it's across the street from Bloomington's oh yeah it's pretty sick wow yeah um so that's me it was a good episode honestly it was probably the one that I thought I had the most to say about in the last couple weeks but

hey whatever ebony looked stunning um she did and the only other thing that happened was Sonia's date which I found really interesting and it's really crazy how Sonia can behave like the most normal person yes of all time like she was so fucking normal like it was crazy I felt like I was watching like a play like she was not being her she was literally like being the most she was being Sonia Morgan yeah like it and just where is that

energy at other times I have to say no when the guy was talking about his hernia it was like a jelly donut I was cracking up and then also she was like perked up when he said he had a house in Ibiza right or wherever and then in South France and then he sold it right it was so funny I actually thought that was a really interesting like her commentary about her date was just really great.

And I just, I could use some more of that, Sonia.

Yeah, it was really cute.

Is that the guy from Ebony's Matchmaker?

Yes.

Okay.

Not a bad, not a terrible match.

Not at all.

I thought he looked better in the show than he did in his picture.

But Sonia thought the opposite.

I actually thought he was the opposite.

Like, I thought he looked exactly like his photo.

And that's on Sonia for...

not seeing a photo.

Also, imagine, how old do you think he is?

And he's going on a date.

He's 65, 70.

He's going on a first date on a reality TV show.

Like,

imagine that.

I know.

Imagine having everything we've ever dreamed.

Don't you want it?

Maybe.

Can't you see it?

Kind of.

I mean, first audition after college, I get the lead.

Apart from me, well, of course, you gotta believe it.

That's how I felt.

That's how I felt.

I hope they go out again, though.

Me too.

Yeah.

He looks a little bit like Frenchie.

That old guy she used to date.

Yeah.

I missed when Song had like a boyfriend.

Me too.

Except not like the young, like children.

Yeah.

Okay.

Then Love Island was a really interesting episode, especially given the fact that ever since Cash Sinko, like all the good people left, Josh, Shannon, it has been super lackluster.

I felt really torn.

Let me tell you why.

Because the challenge was interesting in the sense that

they really live in their own bubble and it's like a smack from the real world.

Yes.

But I do think like in these times, I don't know if the show should like be giving energy to people's like toxicity on the internet.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, I felt conflicted about it because I like liked watching it, but also I'm like, think of their mental health.

Like,

Bailey was crying.

Like, I don't know.

I just feel like the boys were able to brush it off.

But I feel like I don't know if that's what we should be doing.

That's a good point.

I hadn't thought of it like that.

I feel like the tweets that they chose that were not super flattering weren't like disgusting troll tweets.

No, of course.

It was what people are thinking, like especially with Olivia and Corey, like this is a farce.

Right.

And so I wouldn't put the Olivia Emmy tweet in like a, that I think it's a fair critique of what we're watching on the show.

And like the challenge does need to be interesting.

So I would say that I was fine with, because that's what a lot of people are thinking.

That's what it looks like to us.

I would say the Will and Cure stuff needed to come out.

That's what happened last season with Johnny and Selly and like it was so bad.

But like Bailey not being genuine.

Billy note.

Jeremy is the Grim Reaper.

Yeah, like funny, true, but like mean.

Mean.

Calling Trina leftovers was

and so not true, by the way.

No, she keeps choosing.

Mark my words.

Because Trina's going to win.

People love Trina so much, and they don't really aren't invested in any of these other couples.

They're very doubtful of Olivia and Corey.

There's so much trauma with Will and Kira.

Trina is the hero of the show, FYI, and I'm telling you, she's winning with Andre.

I love her so much.

I didn't like her being called leftovers.

I would agree with that.

And I feel like for some of the people, they just needed to find something mean about them.

Like, when I watched Bailey on the show, I don't think she's not genuine.

That's like...

We never get to see her.

How would we we know that she's like, that wouldn't be my critique of her?

So I feel like they just needed to like say something.

Yeah.

But then Bailey thinks that's what L of America's thinking about her.

No, and like it makes them self-conscious, and you're already self-conscious being on a show and just like having this morsel of faith.

I think that the tweets should have been relegated to like things they've done.

Yeah.

Not personal opinions.

Or just couples.

Right.

Or not, but not like personal attacks on their character.

I do have to say, like, I did get misty-eyed with the whole Alana thing because, first of all, I think she's like literally the most gorgeous girl on the show.

And I've never in my life watched a show like this.

Bachelor in Paradise, Bachelor, are you the one where anyone's even remotely curvy?

Like it's unheard of.

And when she walked in, I was like so excited and she's just so stunning.

And I loved that they gave her that tweet and I love that she had that conversation.

She's like, of course, I was self-conscious about coming here.

Like I had the confidence like in myself, but then like to go on TV with all of you guys, like it's torture.

And I just thought that was such a refreshing conversation.

And I love Alana.

And honestly, I would vote for her to win too.

And I know people don't like Charlie because they think

he did cash wrong by like coming back from Cassandra more with her and then exploring other relationships, even though that's literally the point of the show.

I don't think he's a bad guy.

I think he's like misunderstood.

And I like him and Alana a lot.

I don't know if they have a connection at all, but separately, I like them.

I don't know.

I like them too.

I feel like they could have a connection.

It's definitely something substantial enough to warrant him moving on from cash.

Yeah.

But let's talk about the Will and Kira stuff because it's.

I had a bit of a change of heart.

I doubt, Kira.

Me too, because I feel like

I had a lot of respect for her for having enough self-awareness to be like, I have horse blinders, race blinders, horse blinders, blind, like the things on the side.

Yeah.

Horse blinders.

Blinders?

The horses wear them.

Yeah, that's a good point.

Horse blinders.

I don't think she called herself horsebinders.

No, I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, she's all in on someone.

She is so infatuated.

She cannot see red flags.

So I actually had a lot of respect for her for seeking out other people's people she trusts, like Trina and Olivia, seeking out their opinion because she's like, I'm so in it, I can't see anything.

Am I missing something?

Like, did he lie?

What do we know?

So I actually had a lot of respect for that because it takes like a really mature person to know your own flaws.

And I do think there's something really weird about Will.

I also think there's something really weird about the fact that they've been together since day one and have never had the conversation about what they want on the outside.

Like that's a red flag.

Yeah.

So I, for me, I was kind of feeling like this whole time, like, Kira, like, you're spineless, but actually, I don't feel that way.

No, I don't feel that way.

And I felt like when she sat down with the girls in the bedroom, it was like so crazy intense, like everyone waiting for them to go to sleep and like they're like having this conversation in the 11th hour.

Would you feel like Alana was being like a little bit of a snitch?

No, I feel like, well, I just assumed the best in her because I took her.

I think she went in there so that if there were no girls, they would have been like, Where are the girls?

They all got up and got the girls.

I'm having, they're having a conversation.

No, it's not serious.

Like, someone had to be the one who wasn't going to be in the conversation.

I think she actually took one for the team because, of course, you want to be in the interesting part.

Bailey really should have gone to bed too.

Yeah, she didn't get to it.

She just wanted to be in on it.

She didn't read the room.

Not at all.

But she also was actually giving pretty good advice.

Yes, I agree.

So I was grateful for for her presence.

She was like, Have you asked him if he wants a girlfriend after this?

And she was like, No.

But what's really tough is like when Olivia and Trina are talking about like Will and his weirdness away from Kira, it's like, yeah, we all get it.

We all see it.

But like when they're trying to verbalize that to Kira, it's kind of like this intangible thing.

And it's like you sound like a conspiracy theory.

Yeah, no, it's like we can't give you, like, aside from what he did in Casa Moore, like they just get weird vibes from him, but it's not based on like anything other than just like their intuition.

Yeah.

And so that's kind of hard for Kira to act on, but I do think she needs to just like press matters further and

ask hard questions.

And she needs to like get out of this like fog she's in just because she's so in love with him.

And it's like hard to have a conversation with someone who you're just obsessed with and you want to see the best in and you ask, you have to get the nerve to ask a question and they just shoot it down and you're like, okay.

But I don't really think it's about Casa Mora because

it's just about like

his character.

I think they're seeing something that like can't be translated on TV.

You're right.

It is this intangible thing.

But it's also worth mentioning that Amy, Wes, Giovanni, Cash, and Sinko did an Instagram live, and Amy is like really salty.

They were all like talking shit about Kira.

And basically, Amy and Wes, Amy and Wes are like really mad that they got booted off and they're just like jabbing at everyone.

And they were basically like, first of all, Will and Kira knew each other before.

They were like DMing.

And Will, I mean, and Kira knew everyone who was coming on.

She knew where the house was.

She was so eager.

She was like finding out all this information.

Like, they didn't say how they knew that or how she found out all that information, but everyone was like agreeing.

Like, yeah, she knew who was coming.

Yeah, she she knew where the house was.

Yeah, she knew the whole vibe.

And then, like, a lot of Kira's friends are like speaking out, being like, no, she didn't, like, stop this character assassination.

So, there's really no way to know, like, what she knew, but I just do feel like there's like this weird aura around her and Will, like, kind of untrustworthy.

Yeah.

So, I don't know who to think.

I just know for sure that they're not winning.

No.

And, which is crazy because they're literally, in my opinion, like the only actual couple.

Eligible couple.

And I think that people who are friends, like Trina and Andre, they have a better chance of winning.

That's so crazy.

And I really respect Andre for not just like faking a relationship with Trina like because he thinks like it's what America wants.

Like he's like, yeah, we're friends.

Like if something comes, they're both like, yeah, let's just like keep hanging out.

If we like each other, great.

If not, like we can always be friends.

Like I think that's so normal and healthy.

And I love them not like forcing this relationship on us just because they think it's what America wants.

Agreed.

Also, Bailey and Jeremy had a bit of a breakthrough last night.

Okay.

Jeremy's so frustrating.

It was small steps for us, but it was a big step for Jeremy.

He talked about his feelings.

His insecurity in his looks, and now he just like doesn't give a fuck.

But like, I actually feel like last night we started to see the side of Jeremy that has kept him in the house for so long.

Funny, like, funny, like, oh, he's like, America hating me makes my hair look good.

Whoa, like, he was being funny.

The guys are obsessed with him, and there's definitely something we are not seeing.

Yeah, so it just, like, I felt like finally we're back in like a decent place with him, and not just like, what is this person?

He's really bothersome sometimes.

He is, but like, and I just wish he would, like, give a little bit more to Bayley.

I like to any girl that he's with, right?

But right right now it's Bailey.

And I just want, I want love for him.

Me too, but I'm concerned he's not capable of it.

Like, Trina, Amy,

Bailey, they all say the same thing after being with Jeremy for a few days.

Like, he doesn't really treat me like a...

girl.

Like he's like friendly and he's high-fiving me and he doesn't cuddle and we don't kiss.

He's no words of affirmation.

They all say the same thing and they all

last night.

They all communicate it to him and he doesn't receive it.

I understand.

And how does he not see the pattern that literally the four girls he's been matched with here all have the same complaint?

Like, you're the problem.

He's actually been with five girls.

Who?

Florida and Jenny.

Jenny, I always forget about Jenny.

Yeah, and they all see the same thing.

Like, are we just friends?

Like, because that's the energy he gives, and he's not willing to, like, make a change.

It must be so frustrating to be in a relationship with him.

Definitely, but, like, he does things in his own way and maybe just needs a little bit more.

Someone who's gonna be more patient and be like, I see in you the person that I want to be with, and maybe it takes time.

Like, I don't know.

He's in in these like four-day relationships.

He's like, yeah, I'm not giving you a shit.

Yeah, totally.

So I don't, I don't know.

I just, I, I don't think he's a bad guy.

A couple other things that were revealed on that very salacious Instagram live with all the casts who left is that memory and cash like wasn't in an episode.

They said she was sleeping upstairs with a toothache.

She actually had to leave the villa to go get a tooth pulled.

Like she was in major tooth pain, which I feel like was right before she left and she was probably fucking ready to go.

Like when you're in pain, especially tooth pain, like you just want to be home.

I feel like everyone there is ready to go.

They keep saying we don't know if today's going to be our last, but it's like, please be our last.

I feel like ever since really like Shannon and and Josh left, everyone is like, it's not fun anymore.

Like, I want to go home.

Yeah.

Like, when is this over?

And I felt that way last night and they were all like drinking and trying to like pump each other up, especially after the tweets episode, which I also think came a little too late in the season.

I think if it had come more in the middle and maybe like the tweets episode has caused Kira to open up her eyes.

That should have happened episodes ago.

Yeah, like

right as they're about to go home.

Yeah, agreed.

I think that there's a lot of things they can and should do differently next season.

But I just have to say, I'm coming

nearing the end of my first season of watching Love Island, and I've so enjoyed it.

Like, thank you so much for opening up my eyes.

It's been so fun.

I feel like I started following so many new people, like so many good influencers.

Like I followed Cachet and Shannon.

Like,

I have to follow Trina.

Actually, she's like a top of my list.

Her Instagram is stunning.

Is it?

Okay.

Please remind me.

I've so just like had the best time.

Honestly, I thought it would be really overwhelming to watch the same thing every day, but it's like, it's actually so much better.

Yeah.

Also, I just want to say, I heard that on Love Island, UK, which everyone always says is better.

When they do a dumping ceremony, the people who had just arrived at the house don't participate at all.

They should.

And that way

they can't be sent home and you don't get stuck with the same people.

It's like, oh, geez, having to send each other home.

Yeah, that's the flaw of the U.S.

is that the only people that leave are the people that got there yesterday, so like nobody cares.

Right.

And they were watching.

And then the same five people.

And now we're in the last week, and it feels tired.

And by the way, Olivia does deserve an ME.

Actually, I don't think the acting's been even that good because it didn't convince me.

Do you think that she has real feelings for Corey?

Not even in the slightest.

Not even in the slightest.

Do you?

No, I don't know.

I actually, like, I really don't know.

I think that they're,

what I'm seeing is, like, I think that they're trying to.

It would just be disappointing if a couple won who wasn't together.

So I think that, like, it's convenient for everyone if it's Olivia and Corey already.

It's going to be Olivia and Corey.

It just can't be.

No, I'm not voting for them.

I'm either voting for Corey.

I would sooner vote for Will and Kira for having even like they have chemistry for having made it through that long yeah no i'm voting for um

trina and andre or alana even though alana just like and charlie have been there for so short it's like not fair like trina's been there since day one andre's been there for shorter yeah but trina yeah trina's been there for fucking day one and keeps getting fucked over by everyone jeremy cinco literally everyone yeah she's had honestly the worst experience on the show and she's been a good friend to everyone still the whole time every night looking so better than the next and i was looking at pictures like from behind the scenes Like she was doing everyone's makeup.

She was doing Cash's makeup.

Like she's just a good fucking friend.

Okay.

She deserves to win.

We're voting for Trina.

I don't know.

I'm like really into Alana and Charlie though.

Even though I don't know if they're into each other.

Yeah.

I just love Alana.

Like I just love what she stands for.

Yeah.

You should follow her too.

Yes.

Even though like in a year from now I'm like going through my people.

I'm like, why am I following these people?

Like because you forget.

No, but like you'll follow them for a year.

Yeah.

It'll be a fun year.

Yeah, it will.

So the finale is on Sunday.

Arielle Vandenberg did a Q ⁇ A.

Because also in tonight's episode, their family members are coming that's what I thought when like Trina was running off yeah so that always happens right before the end so they can like meet the person that they're dating and that sounds boring ask questions it's boring because no one there is dating no but also just I feel like it's boring like I actually don't like the episode of Hometown's like on the bachelor yeah no it's always sweet and they've been like so like cooped up for so long they were like so happy to see their family and it's just like it's really cute and they're like this show is one week too long

this particular season this particular yeah I agree and I need Shannon and Josh I know they're busy obviously and I respect that I just like really want them to do a live.

I need to hear from them.

Like, how are they?

How's Josh?

Are you still together?

How's the relationship?

Like, tell us about the show.

Like, I need them to be eligible to win.

I know.

You know, I was actually thinking when Trina like got up and ran last night.

I'm like, is it possible Shannon and Josh return?

But, like, there's no way.

No, no.

But, like, we should be able to vote for them on the app.

I agree.

They gave, they gave everything to, like, they put the first three weeks of the show on their back.

Like, Josh was like the center of the guys' group.

Shannon was the center of the girls' group.

Their relationship was so interesting.

Let's downsumer love.

No, it's honestly, and I hate this phrase.

It's the definition of a power couple.

It's okay if you say it about.

No, I still think it's a disgusting term.

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