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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Thursday.

Hope everyone's having a great day.

Hi, Jackie.

How are you?

Hi, Claudia.

I'm doing well.

Thank you.

And that is because it's Thursday and we're officially over the hump.

We are sliding into the weekend.

And this week for me was one of those weeks at the beginning of the week where I was like, I am so excited for this week to be over.

I have so much to do this week.

And so once it's Friday night, like all will be done.

And it's Friday night.

You're a small town town girl.

Everything is right.

And we rule the world.

I've just been like having

this joie de viv like all week.

Like I can't explain it.

Like not to be so annoying.

No.

I'm telling you, there's a correlation.

I think it's a hairstyle.

I think it's also kind of like not to blame, you know, put all my troubles on the Olympics, but like I just feel this weight lifted off of me and I just feel lighter than ever,

even though I've never weighed more.

And it's just so exciting, you know?

I feel like I've just been in a good mood all week.

I can't wait wait to like for it to run out I was due for a good mood because the two weeks before like I was on my period and sick and I was an absolute not here because like you know I have to contain my composure but like in private behind closed doors like I was an absolute monster damn so I was due for some good energy who do you think received the monstrosity the worst Ben or Theo I would literally never direct any morsel of anger towards Theo 100% to Ben.

And honestly, the fact that I stand here today making it through that two-week period, still a married woman, is

it's God.

It's really, it's all in his hands.

Wow, that's beautiful.

Thank you.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

I'm actually really excited because the new episode of The Redheads dropped to the end.

I hear it's quite divisive.

It is so divisive.

So

there are people, we read the book, all four of us.

Half the group would say one of the books, best books they ever read.

The other half would say the worst book they ever read, which is just so crazy.

So we are really getting into everything.

Like, there's a lot of strong opinions on the episode, which always makes for a great episode.

So, if you read the book, check it out.

If you didn't read the book, you can still listen to the episode because there's a summary and it's just like a really funny episode.

But it's Never Too Late to Become a Redhead.

Snitch announced her choice, and it's actually not that snitchy.

It's not a YA?

It's not a YA.

It's a novel.

A snovel?

It's a snobble.

It's called We Are the Brennans, and I read the synopsis.

It looks really good.

I'm really excited to read it.

You're telling me Snitch chose a non-young adult like love story?

Yeah, coming coming of age.

Snitch chose a book that Dana could have chosen.

So it's not a coming of age story.

It might be.

It might be a coming-of-age story, but it's not boy meets girl.

Boy.

Girl gets murdered.

Girl comes back as a ghost, literally, to have the best sex of her life.

No, it's not that, but I'm really excited to read her choice.

We also all shared the other books that we read this month, which is actually my favorite segment where we just get to talk about books.

Books.

And I really love the book, Clara and the Sun.

I thought it was such an interesting read.

I love Clara.

I don't know if I told you this, but to me, the reason why the book resonated with me so much is because.

Did you choose this one?

Dana chose it.

She was like extremely literary, won the Nobel Peace Prize.

I loved this book because to me, at the heart of it, it was about campers and counselors.

And what hurt the most was that counselor couldn't see that.

So is it possible, though, that the book was not very good, but you were blinded by the camper counselor energy?

It's not possible that the book wasn't good because this author is like,

you know,

world renowned Socrates.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's good.

It's just, I feel like if they didn't really like it, it's because they didn't get it.

But, you know, Socrates is a relative term because, like, for me, I would say, like, Colleen Hoover is a Socrates, you know?

Yeah.

She is.

So, like, if Colleen Hoover wrote a book and some people said it was really bad, you'd be like, you just don't get it.

Well, no, actually, that's the thing about books.

They're so subjective.

They are, which is so crazy.

Even in the comments section, I'm waiting to hear what the redhead readers thought about the book because I need more opinions.

But even in the comment section on our post, the comments are, this was the best book I ever read or I couldn't finish it.

The worst book.

I couldn't finish it.

I feel like that's always the case, you know?

Yeah, that is true.

Nothing's universal.

Is there one book out there that everyone can agree is so amazing?

Probably like Romeo and Juliet.

I don't know.

If you had to sit down and read Romeo and Juliet right now, you wouldn't be able to finish it.

I feel like one of the

451.

One of the most popular books of the last like two, three years was Where the Crawdads Sing, but there are some people who couldn't finish it.

Well, of course, like we're all humans and we all have different interests.

So, like, no one, not everyone is going to love one book, even though I have heard that, um, I actually haven't heard anyone who didn't like Girls No Job, the Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster.

Yeah, I haven't heard anyone either.

Just read my Amazon reviews because they've all been taken out.

No, I'm not kidding.

They've all been murdered.

No, actually, I haven't silenced.

I haven't heard anyone who didn't like It Ends With Us by Colleen Hoover, which we talked about on the episode because I read it this month.

Yeah, I guess the only thing I've heard about that book is that, like, because it's so hyped up, was that, like, I mean, the ending is really crazy, but like, when you hype something up so much, you can really only go down.

Yeah.

So, the only kind of complaint I've heard from people who read it after the hype is like

so much hype.

But, like, if they had just read it because they stumbled upon it, it would have been like a life-changing book.

It was a life-changing book for me.

Yeah, do you want to know something crazy?

Like, there are people who don't like Evelyn Hugo who didn't like it.

Who?

Like, Rebecca didn't like it.

Rebecca?

Mm-hmm.

Hold on.

I'm allergic to the disgusting nature of this conversation.

I didn't like Evelyn Hugo.

Isn't that crazy?

There are people who didn't like Evelyn Hugo.

So that just goes to show.

I've actually been on this journey that I want to explain to you, and like you, I feel like you can help me figure it out.

Okay.

So

whenever, I've actually been really diving into Taylor Swift's Evermore album.

And I was just having a conversation with my friend Abe about how, like, I think it's better than vocal art.

And whenever I am reading it, I mean, whenever I'm listening to it, especially Champagne Problems, I really like can't stop thinking about Evelyn Hugo.

And I can't decide if that's because I read the book when we were in Utah, Evermore had just come out, and I was listening to Evermore a lot, or because I think a lot of the songs, I think a lot of Evelyn Hugo is drawing inspiration from Taylor Swift, and I think a lot of the songs draw inspiration from the book, if that makes sense.

Okay, I think your first point's probably the most tough.

The fact that if you listen to it while you were reading a certain book, the soundtrack will always remind you of that book.

Okay.

But usually that does fade if the two aren't really congruous.

No, there's someone dropped your hand while dancing.

Champagne Problems is so about Cecilia and Evelyn.

Yeah.

Like remember, spoiler alert, they're at the concert and like holding hands and then someone sees them.

Dropped your hand while dancing.

Left you out there standing.

It's so about Evelyn and Cecilia.

Don't come for me.

It could be.

It really could be.

But also I think that

And I don't know if this is true, but Taylor Jenkins Reed must have found inspiration in Taylor Swift.

Like the seven husbands of Elle Evelyn Hugo, the million boyfriends of Taylor Swift.

There are conspiracy theories that Taylor, you know, I'm just saying.

She's never mentioned it.

Really?

Like, I don't watch all of her interviews, but like, I've never even seen a thread of that.

Really?

Oh, man.

In my mind, it was like, to me, like, the seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo, like, that's, like, Elizabeth Taylor.

It's not Elizabeth Taylor Swift.

No, I think it's Elizabeth Taylor Swift.

I don't think so.

Whatever.

Well, we have a great show for you guys today.

Fast Vibe.

Actually, some interesting things to talk about, finally.

And we have a TV recap.

Real Housewives at Beverly Hills was on last night.

Quite a divisive episode.

Yeah, and I mean the Fast Five, I feel as though they're going to be fast because it's just some news.

And I need to talk about Real Housewives at Beverly Hills until the cows come home because I need to, we need to get to the bottom of this, you and I.

And Love Island was on last night.

I know you didn't watch, and I'm so glad you didn't because I know how precious your time is.

Thank you.

And it is a definitely skip episode because the families are on Zoom.

Right.

And the whole...

There's no real couples there, so it's like, who are you meeting?

I mean, I'm new friends.

We'll talk about it.

It's so, it was silliness.

Okay.

But I'm ready to dive in.

I really don't have much else to say.

I'm ready to dive in as well.

Just check out the Redheads.

Another great episode from the girls, and it's never too late.

So, without further ado, to do to do, where are you?

Not here because we have meetings, meetings, meetings.

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It is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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First story, Heidi Montag says Lauren Conrad's career should have been more successful.

Heidi Montag thinks her former TV foe, Lauren Conrad, should have been much more successful in her career.

She quipped during a new interview on Call Her Daddy that Lauren should have gone on to become the most successful Hills alum, but quote, she is not where she should be at all these days.

She said, Heidi said, Kristen, let's be honest, is the most successful.

While Lauren's net worth is reportedly valued at 40 million, thanks to multiple fashion lines, a beauty brand, and nine books, Montag believes her former co-star should have been as successful as billionaire Kylie Jenner.

She said, I feel like Lauren didn't make it like she should have.

She should be Kylie.

She was so good at makeup.

She should have done the tutorials.

If she had a good team, she'd be a billionaire.

She'd be a hundred millionaire.

She is not where she should have been at all.

She continued saying, quote, she has a Kohl's line.

Great, whatever.

But she should be a hundred millionaire.

That's like saying she has a gold bar, whatever.

Like, Kohl's lines, literally the most rich women, Sophia Vergara, J-Lo, it's the best thing.

It's better than having a line at Chanel.

Like, it's so mass-produced.

Didn't Elizabeth and James just go exclusively to Coles from Down Cade and Ashley?

It's nothing to snuff at.

No, it's not.

She said, Are you kidding me?

She said, Are you kidding me?

Who gets that big promotion, that big fame, that big engine behind her?

The loved one, the this and that, the narrator.

No one even gets the narrator show.

Kylie didn't get a narrator show.

She should be so rich.

Okay, I have a lot of thoughts.

And first of all, I just really liked that Alex asked this question.

Like, she's like, well, what do you think?

Like, Lauren made her money and she bounced.

And like, she lives up very, and she doesn't have to do the Hills reboot.

Like, it was a good question.

And I just want to preface by saying, I really do like Spencer and Heidi.

Like, Like, I think the comeback they've made when they were, like, hated, when they didn't even do anything, it was just like a stupid TV show that was scripted.

Like, I think they're great.

But

this does just give off like bitter vibes because,

okay, could Lauren have become a billionaire?

Maybe, maybe.

But she's a 40 millionaire.

Like, that's nothing.

To scoff at.

To scoff at.

Like, I was supposed to, I said snuff before.

That's not the right word.

It's nothing to scoff at, especially because I don't think that's an entirely accurate representation.

And it's entirely possible.

And I think that that Heidi and Spencer,

they'll admit it themselves, are so fame-driven.

Whereas like Lauren was not.

Like, how many people can go from being exactly the narrator, beloved by the world, to being living a completely private life?

Like, we know nothing about Lauren.

So I think that's probably different.

While still having an outward-facing brand, like her brand still relies on her celebrity, but she doesn't even act as a celebrity.

Maybe if she was out there on all these reboots, thirsting it up, her brand would be bigger.

But maybe she's like, I'd rather have the 40 million and peace of mind than have 100 million and be thirsty and desperate like some other people.

Right.

So I think that the decision Lauren made was actually the best one.

But I just think if like if Heidi and Spencer had been in that position, they would have done it completely differently.

And I don't think that if Lauren had tried to become the next Kylie, she would have, like, if Lauren was out here doing makeup tutorials, like, I don't think at all that that's

what would have happened.

Yeah, I agree.

It wasn't the same.

They're not on the same timeline.

So you can't say like she should have been doing makeup tutorials because it was still a little

early for stuff like that.

Um, also, yes, Lauren was the narrator of this highly popular MTV show, but like Kylie is a Kardashian, like it's just so different.

Well, I know, I actually think that I think that wasn't a terrible reference, only in the sense that at the height of the Hills, they were as famous as the Kardashians are now.

Yes, but in a time where it was harder to monetize your digital following.

Yes, it didn't exist 100%.

So, I just think, and first, the thing that I just disagreed with the most about most about this interview is kind of the tossaway comment about Kohl's when it's like

brands like that that's how Jessica Simpson built a billion dollar brand.

It's is hers at Kohl's?

I was thinking that too.

Did it start at Kohl's?

I don't know, but I was gonna mention Jessica Simpson.

So if we both have the same thought then it there's something.

Well, if it's not Kohl's, it's a similar brand and like

she had runs a billion dollar business.

Her business did over a billion dollars in sales.

So just like the kind of like it's only at Kohl's it's

that's the best kind of deal you can have.

It's so mass market.

Is it the fanciest?

No, but you're getting your clothes into literally millions of people's homes and that's the best thing you can have.

So she only has a line at Coles.

That's, give me a line of Coles.

Like that's the best thing.

So many celebrities have it and it's, they make more money from it than they do like their music.

J-Lo has it, Sophia Vergara has it.

Everyone has it.

Yeah, it's just really crazy that this is Heidi's take.

But I have to believe this is how like her and Spencer sleep at night.

Like because Lauren got so much from the show and just was able to exit.

Whereas I don't even think Spencer and Heidi would ever want to exit.

They like being public figures.

But they also like being rich.

But right, so they're probably just like, well, Lauren doesn't have it that good.

It's only 40 million.

Right.

But like, they've also been really open about the fact how like they made a ton of money after the Hills and then they went almost broke because they spent like millions of dollars on crystals.

Right.

So I think that like money and fame are so equally important to them.

And they're like shook by Lauren who so happily gave up the fame and also with that fame could have been more money.

It could have been 400 million.

But like for Lauren, having a normal life, a husband, kids and 40 million dollars was enough for her you know what i also i just don't agree with the idea that she could have been a billionaire because like from the hills we have two successful household brand names and that's lauren and kristen

and i think kristen has done everything right also while also not shying away from the

hills yeah and she did very cavalier like and she's always you know out putting herself out there and her instagram is like you know she's an influencer and she ended up with 30 million okay i have a question

so when when you say Lauren, I mean Kristen's success, do you mean fame or money?

Both.

Okay, because like the elephant in the room is that

doesn't a lot, a large part of Kristen Cavallari's net worth come from her husband?

So, if we're just talking about business, okay, let's let's because she said Kristen's the richest one, which might be true because of Jay.

Got it.

Okay, but let's just take Jay out of it.

Like, I think Kristen has done so many things right when it comes to her business.

Fame.

And when it comes to fame, right.

And still, the cap would be max 30 million.

Right.

I think Heidi's overestimating the ubiquitous popularity of this show.

Yes.

Especially as we move further away from the initial show.

Right.

I'm sure for them it feels like this was like everything.

And for us it was everything.

And for a certain section of the population, like we loved The Hills.

Yeah.

But most people, like, the majority of people.

Well, also, another thing that she spoke about in the interview, which I did find really interesting, was,

I haven't re-watched The Hills.

And of course, I'm so team Elsie.

Like, it's in my blood.

But I do think if I re-watched it, like, I might have a more mature perspective.

Like, okay, you didn't like Spencer.

Like, did you have to write off?

And I do think in a lot of ways, like, Spencer and Heidi were given the short end of the stick.

And she does talk about her relationship with Elsie, how, like, at times, Elsie treated her like a dog, like, because Elsie brought her on the show.

And that means she had to, like, sing for her supper and like do whatever Lauren wanted, which is like not the way a friendship works.

So I do think that that part of the interview was really interesting.

And I do have like a lot of grace, I think, for Spencer and Heidi because I do feel like they were painted as these villains on a show that was somewhat scripted that now like in hindsight, it was such a big deal.

Like they moved into their apartment.

Like they didn't like kill anyone.

Like they just like had a toxic relationship.

But now the proof is in the pudding.

Like was it toxic?

They've been married for over 10 years.

Yeah.

So I do feel like that's a really interesting part of the conversation too.

But I think naturally she's probably

bitter.

I would be too.

Like you get painted as a villain and Lauren gets to like get this perfect life, and they're still, you know, doing reboots of the hills.

Yeah, and Lauren doesn't have to do that, right?

But it's like Heidi, I think, in truth, like, it's nice that Lauren doesn't have to do that, but Heidi's almost faulting her for not working harder.

Yes, but it's not about work, it's about fame.

Yeah, no, and it's just about like

what kind of life you want to have, you know?

No, and by the way, people can live an amazing, like the most amazing life if you are worth $40 million.

And to not have to deal with the mental health element of being famous.

It's, it's brilliant.

Most people aren't big enough to see it that way.

They're like, Jackie, okay, I could be 500 million and I just have to do more red carpets and go here and there and do interviews and put myself out there and like open myself up to all this criticism.

Most people wouldn't make the choice that Lauren made.

Most people wouldn't make the choice to leave fame behind when you have fame so good.

It's easy to not want to be famous anymore when you're Spencer and Heidi and everyone hates you.

Imagine making the choice to leave the limelight when you are universally beloved.

Yeah.

Can't relate.

Can't relate.

That's the crazy part of this whole thing.

Like,

I could have understood if we never heard from Spencer and Heidi ever again after the Hills.

They were scarred by the fame, by the scrutiny, by the criticism.

And Lauren went on to have a million other shows.

But for Lauren to have made the decision to walk away from fame when she literally had every opportunity

laying at her feet, that's the crazy part.

Yeah.

And that's like the admirable part.

Yeah.

So I love Spencer and Heidi, and I don't fault them for thinking how they think because they must be in a lot of ways traumatized like from that experience.

Yeah.

But I don't agree with this call at all.

And Justice for Coles.

Justice for Coles and Justice for $40 million.

Yeah, like it's a lot.

And also your net worth does not mean how much money you have in the bank.

So she probably is more.

I don't think I right, but also like, I don't know if anybody's Googled net worth is accurate.

No, mine says like $250,000.

Is that accurate?

It's not.

Are you ready for our next story?

They also say I weigh 140 pounds, which is

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Yes.

Olivia Rodrigo clears up tawdry driver's license love triangle rumors.

Yes, she's been making a lot of waves in like recent interviews.

She was on Variety and she was on.

Yes, this is from Variety's Power of Young Hollywood issue.

She touched upon the situation that followed after listeners heard her song Driver's License.

Many fans believe that the lyrics were about the alleged relationship between her and her high school musical, the musical of the series, co-star Joshua Bassett and Sabrina Carpenter.

The lyrics in question said,

And you're probably with that blonde girl who always made me doubt.

She's so much older than me.

She's everything I'm insecure about.

Where is my triangle?

Your triangle is on the table because I had to move it for redheads.

I wanted to protect the triangle.

It goes like this: She's everything I'm insecure about.

Yet today I drove through the suburbs.

Yeah.

Cause how

oh my gosh, thank you.

Our triangles have entered the building.

Cause how could I ever love someone else?

And I know we weren't perfect, but I've never felt

for no one.

Oh, and I just can't imagine how you could be so okay

now that I'm gone.

Okay.

Did you ask me what you want?

Okay, continue because I actually have thoughts.

This is what she said.

She explained, saying, quote, I put it out not knowing it would get that reaction.

So it was really strange when it did.

I just remember everyone being so weird and speculative about stuff they had no idea about.

I don't really subscribe to hating other women because of boys.

I think that's so stupid, and I really resent that narrative that was being tossed around.

Okay, I have a lot to say because, first of all,

of course she didn't know the song was going to blow up in the way that it did.

There was no way for her to know that.

Agreed.

And I do agree that, like, we are so beyond the narrative of women hating women for stealing their boyfriends, for sure.

But I think the Miss Olivia needs to take a smidgen of responsibility here.

Because, first of all, if it's not about this situation, which it was so, like, the picture was painted so clear for us.

So, if it wasn't, I do feel as though she did not one thing to stop this narrative, if that was really the case.

And if this wasn't about Sabrina Carpenter and literally people descended upon Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo did nothing.

That's even worse.

Yeah, and she really does like Sabrina.

So she's alluding to maybe here that, like, the

fans got the narrative wrong.

And I don't think that we did.

I don't think that we did either.

And if we did, someone could have cleared that up a while ago.

But

I do think she never expected this song to go where it did.

And even if the song became mildly popular, like at best, like her best hope for the song, I mean, it definitely exceeded every expectation that she could have had or dreamed of.

But even if the song became a little popular, no one was going to be digging into the lyrics and like finding stuff out.

Yeah, so

it's, I mean, it's possible that we got it wrong and that Sabrina Carpenter unjustly like received like the tail end of teenage angst.

But that's almost worse if that's the case, because that would mean Olivia Rodrigo did nothing to stop the unnecessary

bullying of Sabrina Carpenter.

I don't know what's worse.

I just don't think we got it wrong.

I think maybe here she's trying to say that like we missed, not we, the message.

I have no part in this.

You, you people, that you missed the message, and like, it's more so about this boy that broke her heart, not the girl.

About the girl, not the girl that he's with now.

But I think that of all the emotions that came out of the fans after this song, I would say 95% were directed at Joshua Bassett, and like 5% were like Sabrina Carpenter being the blonde girl.

Yeah, I do think that, like, okay, if we're talking about driver's license, yes.

If we're talking about deja vu, like, that song was really mean.

Like, no, that's so good.

That's really mean.

Like, so good.

But it's just like, it's a mean song to sabrina yeah it's it's a worse song to sabrina than it is to joshua yeah well she's pretty much calling him like a phony but she's also saying to like your whole relationship is fake like i did it all

i fucked him first like yeah like it's really taunting him you know yeah so i don't know i

i'm kind of like

disappointed in this but then response but then sabrina's song skin is also a little bit like and i'm fucking him now right well it was a rebuttal it was a rebuttal I love it.

I'm just saying, Devil's Exactly.

I just want to say, I love every song that has come out of this situation.

You're so spoiled with good music.

Yeah, and but I just do wonder, like, how Sabrina's doing.

I think she's probably doing well.

Are they together?

Are they together?

That's the question.

I don't know.

It's just the craziest situation.

Teenage love story.

Yeah.

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Our next story is some apt casting news.

Beanie Feldstein will star in Funny Girls Broadway Revival in 2022.

Hey, Mr.

Arnstein,

here's she

Thank you.

The musical comedy Funny Girl will play Broadway for the first time in nearly 60 years.

Producers announced on Wednesday, and the show has already found its wisecracking Fannie Bryce.

Beanie Feldstein.

Feldstein appeared in the 2017 revival of Hello Dolly, but she's best known for her film roles in Ladybird, Book Smart, and she's playing Monica Lewinsky in the upcoming impeachment

American Crime Story.

She'll be great in that.

We all saw that picture of the back.

Yeah, she'll be great.

I'm so excited to watch that.

Me too.

So she's going to be amazing, and this is just like a really exciting time for Beanie.

Everything's coming up, Beanie.

Everything's coming up, Beanie.

Of course, when this news was released, people were kind of quaking for Leah Michelle because,

first of all, I just have to say, like, I'm really glad that they chose someone who's Jewish.

Like, it's just an important part of the role, and I'm very grateful to the Broadway producers.

So everyone was kind of like, you know, if there ever was going to be a Broadway revival, it's actually a storyline on Glee.

There finally is a funny girl revival on Broadway.

And of course, Leah Michelle goes out for the part in the show.

And her whole, you know, being is inspired by Barbara Streisand.

She never gets her nose job because Barbara Streisand never did.

And so when I think like modern Barbara Streisand, I do think Leah Michelle.

Do you?

I didn't have that thought.

I was mostly just thinking of you.

Oh, that's so nice.

Because that song, Don't Right.

Don't Rain on My Parade is my favorite.

It's like Claudia's party trick.

And by the way, Don't Rain on My Parade, Lee Michelle sings in the first season of Glee, and it's like a show-stopping.

When I sing Don't Rain on My Parade, I actually sing the Glee version.

Like,

it's so good.

So, a lot of people were talking about this.

Like, why didn't she get the part?

What do you think?

Why didn't she get the part?

Well, I do think she's been enraptured in a little bit of scandal over the last couple years, and I don't think people, you know, want to be associated with that.

Because of the reading thing?

No, she had like her whole drama.

What was the drama?

She was accused of

bullying and like targeting a lot of the POC.

oh my god yes I totally forgot about and then like her sponsors dropped her and then she kind of went off and she's kind of like off the record now not off the radar off the radar she's releasing an album but she's much living a much more low-key life okay I completely forgot yes so I think that's one reason I don't I mean honestly this is like this is news I'm very interested in because I'm I do wish they did like some sort of open casting call because like my ass would have went like I wouldn't have gotten the part because I have no formal training but like I would have went just like and I would have vlogged it for Patreon

But,

but

I have a lot of hope for Beanie.

I'm excited for her.

She does have a Broadway background.

I do think that's important.

I think she's Jewish.

I think that's also important.

She has the look, you know.

But we've never heard, I've never heard her sing.

I have.

She sings on Ben Platt's Instagram all the time.

Okay.

And she's in.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's classically trained, you know?

But I just want to say one caveat: I do think that it's important when casting a Fannie Bryce

to cast someone who gives off Fannie Bryce energy, FBE.

And I do not think Beanie Feldstein, I never would have chosen her for this role.

Like, I never even would have thought of her as a Fannie Bryce energy kind of gal.

Lee Michelle obviously comes to mind with the Fannie Bryce energy.

She is radiating it throughout her body.

So that's what I'll say.

Like I just, I'm excited, blah, blah, blah, yeah.

But I don't know if she gives off FBE, but I will be going to opening night.

Alternatively, in thinking about it, I don't know everything that constitutes FBE,

but when I think back to like having watched the movie and like, you know, Barbara Streisand's character, she was like pretty quirky and like

awkward and like all of these things.

But also like extroverted and like rambunctious.

Right, but I do think the 2021 version of that is Beanie Feldstein.

I'm not interested in a 2021 version.

Like, no, Funny Girl is

like, needs to be.

No, but like that quirky, not like other girls type of thing.

I think it's Beanie.

I mean, I just feel like you,

I just feel like you're not Beanie's biggest fan.

What do you mean?

No, I love, I mean, first of all, she could have been related to Ruthie, so that's one thing.

I really am a huge Beanie Feltstein fan.

Like, I loved her in Book Smart, even though her character was so fucking annoying.

No, I am, I am.

I'm just like, I'm very protective of this particular role.

Okay.

And it's such an honor.

And I guess like part of me, yes, part of me.

Is jealous.

No.

Well, yeah, obviously.

But no, part of me is like,

thinks it should have been Lia Michelle, like wholeheartedly.

Like, it's

it's so, it's so, the fact that, like, the internet, Leah Michelle was trending all day yesterday.

The fact that this news came out and people immediately associated Leah Michelle with it is why Leah Michelle

should get the role.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

I do know what you mean.

There's such an association between Leah Michelle and Fannie Bryce slash Barbara Streisand.

She herself said personally, like, when she was in high school, she never got a no-job, you know, oh, that's shit.

Like, yeah.

I don't know.

I just think that's what I'm saying by the Fanny Bryce energy, like an association.

Like, I never, when I think Fannie Bryce, I don't think Beanie Feldstein.

I'm sure that doesn't mean she's not going to be great, but just like for the culture, I do,

I would have liked to have seen Leah Michelle.

Okay.

Is there anyone else that you would have liked to have seen?

I have to think about it because it has to be someone.

And I know, I'm sorry, I do think it should be someone Jewish.

I just do think that.

I think it's an important quirk to have for the quirky role.

And obviously, I mean, Brunette doesn't matter.

I don't know.

I have to think about it because there's so many great actresses, but you also have to have a Broadway background.

You can't just like stumble into a Broadway show.

And nothing that is the lead.

And not one like this that is so story.

Yeah, so it has to be someone.

Oh, honestly,

Jessica Vosk would have been great.

Just saying.

I don't think she's Jewish, but still.

You think she has beanie?

She has Sanny Bryce energy?

Yes, like 100%.

Okay.

Okay.

Just a thought.

Okay, thank you for your thoughts.

Are you ready for our next story, which is a bit of casting nose?

Mm-hmm.

Nose.

That's apt as well.

Titus Burgess has been cast cast as Rooster in NBC's upcoming Annie Live special.

Okay, you guys, I have been following the casting of Annie Live.

This is what we have to do.

Yes, thank you.

That's what I was going to say.

Let's take it from the top.

We announced Taraji P.

Henson as Miss Hannigan.

10 out of 10.

We have

Harry Connig Jr., Daddy Warbucks.

So good.

What I recently found out that we haven't spoken about yet is Nicole Scherzinger will be playing Grace.

Who's Grace?

The assistant to Daddy Warbucks who he falls in love with at the end.

I like her.

I like Nicole Scherzinger.

You don't like her?

No,

that's the first

kind of dent in the

dent in the casting.

I think she'll be so great just like dancing up on Daddy Warbucks.

I know.

I just find her like really thirsty.

Like on another level of thirst.

Okay.

And like, I don't know, this is like a wholesome family show.

I think it's going to have a lot of pizzazz.

By the way,

I'm open to my opinion being changed, but off the bat, that doesn't give me like the apt casting butterflies.

Okay, I feel you, but it wasn't a total miss for me, which is like what I'm trying to avoid, you know?

Okay, okay.

So now we have Titus playing Rooster, who's Miss Hannigan's brother, who's you know involved in the plan to snatch Annie.

It's actually, you know, Annie, we I look back on that

show, like, not show, the movie, very fondly, but it's actually like a story of abduction.

Like, it's actually gets really dark.

It's twisted.

That final scene where Annie's climbing up that telephone pole, like trying not to get her feet snatched by Rooster, rooster.

Like, that is the shit nightmares are made of.

No, 100%.

And I can't believe as kids, we used to be like, it's a hard knock.

And, like, Annie's in the back of a telephone pole getting abducted.

No, it's like, it's a hard knock like yeah.

We're living with an alcoholic who's so emotionally abusive towards us.

Right, no, and like, and her brother, creepy brother's, like, always trying to, like, grab us.

Yeah.

No, Annie is actually like a really dark story.

It is, but with such a happy ending.

And such a good soundtrack.

Yeah.

What's your favorite song for Manny?

There are so many.

There are so many.

Ben to your bottom dollar then.

Tomorrow is fantastic, but I also love

Easy Street.

Yay!

Easy Street.

And that's what

this is sexy little like shoulder sexy song that

sister and brother Hammigan sing.

The movie also has incest.

Do it again.

Easy Street.

Shoulder.

Easy Street.

I'm too cool.

Too cool.

Easy Street.

And then also when Annie sings Maybe, like talking about how maybe show me your baby.

Maybe he's rich.

So good.

So good.

Maybe he'll make me.

And then also,

the reboots have really good.

I mean, just the CO.

Opportunity.

And also, and You're Never Fully Dressed Without a Smile.

And Sia did a reboot of that, a cover of that song.

I actually never really sat down and thought about how many good songs of course the sum will come out tomorrow and hard rock life always come to mind but i forgot about maybe i my god so many the you're never fully dressed i think i'm gonna like it here

wow you know what what is the original annie like this the one that we watched yeah that kid is fucking cute yeah where is she now i don't know she's i don't know still traumatized from that telephone pulse scene i know i was as a kid yeah no that was crazy stuff but poon jab to the rescue Wait, okay.

Can you give me her name, that little Annie?

I'm like kind of obsessed with her.

Okay, but now like searching Annie, original cast, actually, hopefully I'll get the.

And that dress, that dress should be in the museum.

That dress is iconic, but then also their.

Have they cast Annie yet?

No, they haven't cast Annie, and that's what's going to make or break.

Okay, the original Annie, her name was Aileen Quinn, and now she's 50 years old.

Wow, I feel old.

But

there was another Annie, the one with

Kathy.

Yes.

And that Annie was mad cute too.

And then they also have Let's Go to the movies.

By the way, Let's Go Baz.

You know that you missed a major

Claudia.

What?

The craziest news has just surfed.

What, the Kathy Bates Annie is who?

I need to confirm.

I need to connect to this Sadie.

Claudia, I need to confirm with my sources because it could be the craziest crossover we've ever seen.

Can we also, just really quickly, last time we were casting Annie for the

live, we said that that redhead girl from

Stranger Things would be great if she was younger.

And I just want to say I found out afterwards that she actually did play like Annie on Broadway or off Broadway.

What is the news?

You're freaking me out.

The news is that the person who played Annie in the Kathy Bates version, her name is Alicia Morton.

But tell me.

But tell me, that's not Alicia Witt from the Hallmark channel.

But her name is Alicia Morton.

Right.

So I feel like maybe they used the wrong picture or something.

They definitely used the wrong picture.

They're tripping me up.

You're telling me that the Hallmark girl was Annie?

No way.

There's no way that.

That time doesn't make sense because that woman's like 40 and Annie wasn't 35 years ago.

The Kathy Bates version.

It might have been.

It was a long time.

It was like from the 90s.

Hold on.

But there's Alicia Witt, Alicia Morton.

They're two different people.

Okay.

You guys, this is a conspiracy.

I think Google might have mixed up their photos because I'm like really quaking.

The movie was from 1999.

Yeah.

So that's 20 plus years ago.

So she's not 27.

No, it's not.

I'm sorry.

I need to figure this out for myself.

Let's check her IMDB.

Was she in the Christmas Switch?

No.

What was it?

Mary, Mary, Mary Mix-Up.

No.

Okay, forgot it.

I wanted that to be, I wanted that for you.

Oh my gosh, that was a lot.

That was really a lot for me.

Okay, but so back to who plays Annie is that I don't think that there's any child actor out right now who it'll have to be someone new.

Wait, this previous Annie, we have to rewatch it, is so star-studded.

We know Kathy Bates plays Miss Hannigan.

Victor Garber plays Daddy Warburton.

Iconic.

Alan Cumming plays Rooster, I believe.

Kristen Chenwith plays, I think, Rooster's girlfriend.

Lily Saint something.

Oh my God.

Sarah Highland plays Molly.

Stop.

The other orphan.

Audrey McDonald plays Grace.

You guys, we have to re-watch this.

So I wonder when I reference the Annie that I watched as a kid, I wonder if it's the original or if it's Victor Garber.

We really watched both.

Can I see the Annie from 1999?

Yes.

Annie's such a great story.

That's what I'm saying.

It's so layered.

Gotta listen to the soundtrack.

This was the Annie from 1990.

Oh, God, they took me to Amazon.

Oh, my gosh.

It's so hard to find Annie, you know, Annie Facts.

I need to start a website called AnnieFacts.com.

Okay, that poster is really bad.

Oh, my God.

Wait,

Victor Garber was bald.

I forgot.

Yeah.

I feel like the one that I watched is the original.

Like, I remember her being like a curly-haired little.

We watched both.

They were really so different.

And in that one, she's like talking to FDR, the president, like singing to him.

And then in this one, is when they go to the movies and they have the tap dancing for let's go to we should really just kind of do like a back-to-back like annie marathon original annie 1999 annie quibbenjane walls annie just to get ready for the live annie right i don't know when live annie is coming and i just i'm sure whoever they cast as annie is going to be someone that we don't know i hope um yeah it should be Right.

Because there's no one out there right now.

It has to be a natural redhead.

I'm sorry.

I think that it should be a redhead still.

Yeah, no, like Annie.

I'm available.

No, what I was going to say, you weren't listening to me because you were on your Alicia Wit journey.

There's a conspiracy.

They're the same person.

Is that when we look back at photos of you as a kid, like you really, really, really could have played Annie?

Like, you had the hair, like, you had everything.

Do you feel resentful at all that you didn't?

No, not for one moment.

I enjoyed my life up until this point.

You also have a lot of things.

I wouldn't change a thing.

No offense.

Wow.

Okay, well, it's a movie, so they could have done voiceover.

That's true.

Okay, so that's your annie news for the day.

As always, we will keep you posted.

I can't believe I didn't know about Nicole Schersinger.

I know.

That casting news just slipped through the cracks.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

It's the casting news we've all been waiting for.

It's the final story.

Oh my god, the screens on YouTube flipping back and forth so quickly.

Amazing.

Amazing.

Big and final story is the casting news that we have all been waiting for.

The question of the year, who will replace Alex Trebek has been answered.

Mike Richards has been named the new permanent Jeopardy host, and Claudia's favorite person, Maeen Bialik, has been tapped to host a spin-off series.

Oh.

Jeopardy executive producer Mike Richards was announced as the permanent host of the syndicated game show on Wednesday, about nine months after the death of longtime host Alex Trebek.

Additionally, Maeem Bialik has been tapped to host Jeopardy primetime and spin-off series, including the just-announced Jeopardy National College Championship, an all-new tournament which will air in primetime on ABC in 2022.

So, Maeeme Bialik's just doing the spin-off, and then Mike Richards is the college.

Mike Richards is the new Alex Trebek.

There's no more like it's Aaron Rodgers one day,

Ken Jennings the next.

So let's talk about this because I never would have, he was not even on my radar, first of all.

But

I have to say, I do think this is actually a good selection.

Usually there's so much hype for this and people are always disappointed.

But we have been

really kind of analyzing what it takes to be the next Alex Trebek.

And I actually think weirdly, like the answer was right in front of us, you know?

I feel, I definitely had less invested in this decision than you did, but I feel really at peace with this choice.

Like, I really like that it's someone who, just like Alex Trebek, will be known for Jeopardy.

And even his career up until this point has been so Jeopardy-focused.

I just, this is my first time seeing a picture of him.

He's very handsome.

Very handsome.

I also think that, like, his very close relationship with Alex Trebek is a lovely sentiment moving forward.

I think he understands TV.

I think he knows how to read a teleprompter.

Like, I think that

no better

person could have been chosen, honestly, which is crazy.

Which is crazy.

I mean, it's the job a million girls would kill for.

And

it's really like a beautiful ending to this kind of

story, and it's a full circle moment.

Yeah, I agree.

And it's just like, it was also like the answer, the announcement was very low-key.

Like, at first, there was so much hype, but of course, as time moves on, people move on.

And now I just feel like we'll slowly just start to move into the age of Mike Richards.

Yeah,

he said it in a statement, I'm deeply honored to have the opportunity to host the syndicated version of Jeopardy.

Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined being chosen to step into a role of this magnitude.

I'm incredibly humbled to step behind the lectern and will work tirelessly to make sure our brilliant contestants shine in each and every episode.

That's true.

It's about the contestants.

Like the host is just sort of the engine.

But it's not about a razzle-dazzle host.

That's why these celebrity episodes were somewhat flawed because, of course, you're watching a celebrity.

Aaron Rodgers, like, you answer the question.

Like, what do you know about history?

Like, that's the exciting part, but it's not about the host.

And that's why the formula for who would have made the perfect Jeopardy

host is so delicate because you have to be like interesting and smart, but not too interesting.

Yeah.

And just like, and have charisma and charm and magnitude, but also be able to kind of fade into the background.

Yeah.

And that's on being a host.

Yes.

But now hosting is so much about being a celebrity.

Yeah.

But I like that Jeopardy is sticking to its laurels and it's going to remain pretty similar.

Yeah.

I think this is actually, like, like,

I don't know if they could have chosen someone better.

And I was really kind of pro-Ken Jennings.

Just because it's like a beautiful story, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like you get so far, and that's a reward for like having been the best in the game.

But I just think personability-wise, he was not a...

It didn't happen for him.

You know, I like that it's, they threw us a curveball.

Yeah, and it's, it's amazing.

And I hope that everyone is as universally pleased as I am because I really think this was just amazing.

And the answer was right in front of us the whole time.

Yeah.

Also, for Maeeme Bialik, she has a PhD in neuroscience.

Yes.

And she's from Big Bang Theory, which is like

science and like things like that.

Nerds.

Yeah, sorry.

I didn't want to be mean.

No, nerds.

I think they're like.

They're proud nerds.

Proud nerds.

Yeah, I think so.

But again, I've never watched.

It's the worst show of all time.

And so even that

side dish of a casting works for me.

Yeah, me too.

No.

And I think of all the celebrity hosts that came in, Maeem was my favorite just because she has that background.

Like, Like, it's an honor.

You know, you have to earn the academic background to, I think it's great.

I just think it's great.

Yeah, I'm great.

I agree.

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Um, okay, Real House is at Beverly Hills.

We wrapped up our trip to Palm Springs and the ladies headed back to LA, but not before seeing a tawdry expose in the LA Times, which of course is a big deal, but I think like as a lawyer in LA, it's like the biggest deal ever.

Right.

So I just want to say, I've watched all the episodes that we haven't recapped.

I watched them all yesterday, so they are all kind of like one for me.

We haven't discussed like the car accident.

Oh, you're so behind.

It was turned.

We haven't, we haven't discussed it.

Like the whole trajectory of Erica's, I want to say performance on this trip.

Yeah.

But I think regardless of whether or not she's guilty or innocent, she has to treat this as a performance.

You know what I mean?

Like, and I do think that that's where Sutton is going with what she's trying to say, which is like, I think we're being used

as, and like, this could be like

part of evidence in a court hearing.

So, yes, I was feeling really conflicted last night about the Sutton thing because part of me

like hates people who just like leave you like the second things get tough.

But I don't know, Sutton was spitting facts.

And like, I think it's really, really hard

to prove that Erica didn't know anything.

Like, I think, you know, the odds are that she definitely knew what was going on.

She had $20 million in her bank account.

Right.

And I'm glad we finally got to that part because

now I feel like we're caught up.

We're caught up because that was, for us, the big bombshell in Housewife and the Hustler.

I guess we missed this LA Times article.

But that's the part that really doesn't add up: the $20 million to EJ Global.

Now the women are asking the same question.

So we are all caught up.

I mean, I am so thankful for Sutton's presence just because it seems like she understands the most about this case, just like money,

things in general, money, spousal hides of money.

If the devil himself puts money in your bank account, you're responsible for it.

Right.

And so Sutton is just coming like Megan King Edmonds, like

ready.

to ask the question

in combination with Garcelle, who I think is asking like the questions that we all want to know.

So let's talk about the Garcelle thing.

I actually really felt so fucking bad for her.

Harriable.

Because I believe Crystal, when she says, like, you were not around when she told us not to bring it up.

I was kind of interested in why Garcell brought it up three times after.

Like, she was really,

like, trying to, I don't know what her intention was behind bringing it up so many times, but I don't think she intentionally betrayed Erica's trust.

No, I don't think she intentionally betrayed Erica's trust.

I do think the reaction was a lot, but sometimes it's the thing that sets you off and then you can't come back from it, which I, I wasn't.

Jackie, I was gonna, when I was watching, I was like, I'm gonna, I was preparing what I was gonna say today.

I'm like, you know, you never know what's gonna set you off, whatever she's going through a tough time.

But, no, but my only fault with the whole scene, I have no fault with Garcelle.

I even have no fault with Arica.

She's a mess.

She has a lot going on.

Is Lisa Rinna?

Is Lisa Rinna, who was literally so excited that Garcell slipped up.

Yeah.

That she said something that she shouldn't have.

That the way that Lisa Rinna is going about it.

Sitting there in her coat.

Like, and acting if what, like, I hate that this happened.

Like, I hate that, like, like,

I I,

it was so bothersome.

And if you watch Watch What Happens Live last night, she was on Lisa, no, what you wanted.

Lisa and Gary Giannetti.

And Andy, the first question he asked, which was, which is what everyone's saying, and what I keep thinking is, like, where is the energy that you brought to Denise that you brought to Denise?

Membership

that, you know, we need, we're on a show.

We need to ask the questions.

It's going to come up, blah, blah, blah.

And she was like, one, she was like, you know, I tried to learn from my behavior last season and then liar.

Right.

And that's not, you know, what I'm going to do again.

And two, do I have to put this show on my back, Andy?

There's eight other women.

Like, but so wait, but someone asked a question and you just literally made her feel so horrible about it.

Oh my god, I literally cannot stand.

I cannot stand.

No, but the thing is, I was going to say, it's like, you never know what's going to set you off.

I don't think it was really what Garcelle did.

I just think it was like a lot.

But then

when I think of this whole journey, her performance on the show, I think the timing is so interesting because she got off a clempt and then she left and went home.

Or else she would have been around the women when that LA Times article came out.

Or the article came out really early in the morning.

She would have been at her hotel and she wouldn't have shown up for the day.

I think either way, it would have been fine.

No, I just think like a lot of what her overreaction with Garcell had to do with was her needing to get out of there as well.

Interesting.

You have a heads up when an article that big is coming out, right?

They reach out for comments.

Of course,

I guess.

I mean, it is really convenient that she left right before.

I think she would have left anyway.

Like, I don't think she was ever discussing that article on the day it dropped with the girls.

No, but I think the fact that she was, you know,

100 miles away was intentional, yeah, yeah.

And see, like, Lisa Rina, and I, you know, I respect you being a good friend, but like, Lisa Rina, when they all get to Denise's house, no, not Denise, sorry, at Dorit's house,

justice for Denise.

When they all get to Dorit's house,

she's like, Yeah, I spoke to Erica this morning.

Like, she, that should have been filmed, you know, like she is really, really protecting Erica and, like, love, love a good friend, but, like, at what cost?

Yeah, I, I do go back and forth.

Like, if this is your best friend and you obviously

believe her, then you should have her back, but not just without asking, like, a few basic questions, considering the crimes that they're being accused of are so atrocious.

That's why I feel like the person who I believe is handling this in the most ethical way while also trying to be a good friend is Kyle.

Like, Kyle's asking, like, $20 million.

Like, that's a, it's a fair fucking question.

Like, up until this point, it's always been like,

excuse me.

The narrative is like how could tom have brought erica into this and now it's like wait was erica already there and so it's it's a very fair question that her friends are asking and i feel like sutton's the one being like the most realistic about it because like what the fuck does she owe erica she met her last year like she's a woman who obviously cares about her reputation she's like i don't want to be associated with this shit like oh and this said the meanest thing on watch what happens live she said um you know something something came up about like sudden not wanting to like associate whatever and she was like i mean i have businesses and i would still want to like like you know be around Erica like Sutton doesn't it's not like she has a business that she has to and and he was like what about the store she's like sure she has a store but like what businesses does Lisa I guess like Lisa and Dusters and beauty that's as much of a business as Sutton's retail store I just want to say yeah anyways she was just like

doing

so much so it seems like there's somewhat of a divide in the group and that's what Garcelle was saying she's like okay you told me this intimate piece of information and I'm not even a part of your inner circle and there is this inner circle of Lisa Erica Kyle Durit and it's Teddy they call themselves like the Fab Five.

Like there is this inner circle of women.

So I can understand Garcelle bringing up something private.

Like if Garcel knows, all the other women must know.

I'm not even really that close with Erica.

So I don't feel like Garcelle had any bad intentions and I felt like really bad for her.

Like it was just like a terrible moment.

But I just did kind of think it was weird how many times she brought that up.

Oh, I thought she, but she just brought it up once and then.

She brought it up twice.

How?

Before the women sat down on the couch and after.

Oh, and she brought it up twice.

So it was just like weird.

Like, why keep bringing it up?

I guess.

Yeah, that is a little funky.

But I do find this whole like inner circle thing to be really interesting and definitely true.

Like, all those women who were in the inner circle were just on that boat with Teddy, like, singing, It's Expensive To Be Me.

Like, there is this, and I kind of feel like I'm leaning more towards being on the side of like Crystal, Garcelle and Sutton.

Me too, where it's just like.

It's black and white.

Like, did you do this shit or not?

Like, yeah, but if you.

They're not friends with Erica.

They don't owe her anything.

Right, but if you were to believe for some reason that she didn't, then wouldn't you have her back?

Yeah, but

facts are facts, like $20 million.

Yeah.

I'm just like, ever since you pointed this thing out, like, I cannot watch this show without getting infuriated.

Like, where's the energy?

Where's the Denise energy?

Where's the Denise energy for kissing?

For sexual crimes that were committed.

Not something personal about your sexuality.

Like, you had so much energy to out Denise as being bisexual, which is so unethical, by the way.

And made her into such a villain.

But there's no energy just to kind of ask the difficult questions to your friend Erica about whether or not she took money from burn victims.

I will say, orphans and widows.

I will say that they haven't seen Erica since they found that out.

That's true.

We haven't, so she's coming to the point.

No, but this whole time it's been orphans and widows.

No, but this whole time, it was just like before we

knew about the $20 million.

No, no, no, not even that.

There was a time when she was getting divorced where there's legal drama with Tom.

There's always legal drama with Tom.

Is Erica complicit?

That we didn't know that these were like crimes with the most vulnerable victims.

Right.

And I think.

Do you think it's a white color?

That's what

Sad was saying.

Up until this point, they were like, okay, you're getting a divorce from a very powerful man who's also embroiled in legal drama, like a very just tough situation.

And then the article dropped where they put everything together and it's like, it's bad, bad, and very, very sad.

And they have not seen her since.

So I'm just going to give them, and it looks like next week when they have this like dinner party,

it looks like people start asking questions.

So that's what I'm waiting for.

But up until this point, it wasn't as

nefarious as we know

now that it is i guess like how we move forward will be very telling but also knowing what we know now we know that

dorit

kyle no yeah doreet kyle and lisa all like are standing with erica right so whatever has transpired they've chosen to believe her i just wonder you know let's watch them ask the questions okay and maybe the way that erica has convinced them or shown to them that she's

will convince us too yeah because I guess at this point in the show, they've all read the article, which has all the information that was in the most recent documentary.

So we know exactly what the women know right now.

And moving forward,

it will be more interesting because up until this point, it was like Tom, Tom, Tom.

Yeah, and it was just like Erica is going through a divorce.

That's very sad.

Yeah.

But what Erica's actually going through is much more serious.

Okay.

Also, Love Island was on last night, and it was just the episode where people meet their families, and it was all over Zoom, and it was so incredibly boring, and it was just like awkward and weird.

The only kind of interesting thing was literally the episode episode was so like the whole thing was like meet the family commercial and the last couple was obviously will and kira will is just like acting like he's actually like kind of sociopathic like acting like everything's fine like wasn't even embarrassed to like meet the family of a girl he cheated on like it was so sociopathic and then he got up to leave and she spoke to her family and her dad was like we honestly really did not want to come on here and like do this but you know we wanted to support you we wanted to see you her sister was crying Kira was crying.

They were like just saying they don't trust Will.

And like this whole time they're having this conversation, the editors are so shady.

They're splicing up Will recapping his conversation with his family and Kira's family with Andre in the kitchen.

He's like, Kira's so happy.

I'm so happy.

Cut to Kira crying.

Oh, so amazing.

Kira's family loves me.

I love Kira's family.

My dad told her to come to our house, Medeine.

Cut to Kira crying.

Then she finally hangs up with her family.

He's still talking about how happy they are.

She's like, she literally hides under the stairs and is hysterically crying.

Cut to Will in the kitchen.

Oh, we're so happy together.

It's going to be so good.

And she did have, she had a conversation with him.

She was like,

I want to know, like, what are your intentions?

Like, we don't have to boyfriend boyfriend, girlfriend right now, get married, have kids.

But are you ready to have a committed relationship?

Like, when we leave here, if you go to a bar, like, we don't have to put a label on it, but like, if we go to a bar and somebody asks you if you have a girlfriend, like, you're going to say no.

Like, and he was just like, slow, slow, slow, let's slow down.

So, really, a lot of red flags.

And it looks like tonight.

He sits Trina down for a conversation.

Kind of, remember how he like sat Shannon down and put all the blame?

Oh, Kira's having skeptical thoughts.

It must be because of you, Shannon.

Now he's putting it on Trina.

And I draw the fucking line at Trina.

He, and Trina's like, are you fucking kidding me?

Like, so I think although it's very difficult to pinpoint what it is about Will that's weird, it's becoming a lot more clear what that is.

Amazing.

I mean, sad, but like, I'm glad that we're getting clarity.

So now it's like, who's gonna win?

Is it Olivia and Corey?

No, or is it Andre and Trina?

If Olivia and Corey win, I will never watch the show again.

I know.

I would want Andre and Trina win.

I would have Alana and Charlie.

Charlie win.

I think if Jeremy and Bailey win, it's not good either.

yeah okay but i just have to say like i'm really in tune with the love island usa like team um on reddit i've been reading a lot and like they are who are they all voting for trina and andre because they just think trina is a queen who deserves justice i 100 agree and they think like this should be the first season where one person wins like the money because andre just got here and trina's been like right it could just be one person but wouldn't wouldn't andre have to say

he would have to say split and trina would have to say keep right in order for trina to keep it yeah but he could say keep and trina could say keep and then what happens if neither of them get it if if he said keep he would be the most hated man in America but then he and then he would have nothing to show for it

if he said yeah yeah he doesn't he can only say split if but I don't see Trina saying keep because like she should I'm sorry like she know know your worth Trina that's really true I didn't realize they could intentionally make it so that just the one most deserving queen wins and do you think that like people who are in couples like are having those conversations like if we win what are we gonna do do you think they're allowed to like I think they're they're allowed to.

I think those conversations must happen.

Yeah, because like Will and Kira probably, up until this point, thought they were winning and they were just like making plans.

Like, let's blip split.

Or Will was going to steal from Kira.

Yeah.

Like, maybe that's what he was doing.

He's in this perfect couple.

He doesn't want shit out of the house.

Right.

But he's about to win $100,000 for himself because he knows Kira would say split.

I always keep forgetting about the money.

Like, that's what they should be doing.

I know.

It's really a weird wrench that they throw into it.

And I do feel like it should be more than $100,000.

I don't know, but if you, it's like

it's an interesting amount because it's like if just one person wins that amount of money, like that's amazing.

But if you split it after taxes, it's like 30 grand.

It's pretty selfless to split it.

Like you have to really love that person.

Like I love you more than $50,000.

Oh, Josh and Shannon did an Instagram live with Cinco and Cash and then Giovanni joined and Shannon and Josh were just like all over each other.

Like they're like a legit ass couple.

We'd love to see it.

And they should be able to win.

Yeah, no, but I'm going for Trina.

Yeah, me too.

I don't know when we vote.

So if the finale's on Sunday, we probably vote on Friday.

Yeah.

It'll be very exciting.

That's so crazy.

But the episode, I'm not going to lie, like, was really boring.

Seeing people talk through a screen, it's just like, it's not going to cut it.

Like, the show has been so premium up until that point.

Like, we're better than that.

Like, if you can't fly them out, just forget it.

Yeah, especially when no one's in a couple.

Except for Will and Kira.

Like, I'm sure that was really.

She probably was so awkward.

She probably needed to speak to her family, though.

She probably feels like so stupid, confused, and just lonely.

Yeah, especially because like I think her really good friends were Shannon and Cachet and like Olivia Olivia and Trina are being there for her because they're obviously the OGs, but I don't think it's like a really true friendship.

Yeah, I agree.

And I'm just like not, the more episodes we watch, the less I'm buying what Olivia is selling.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Okay, so tonight Love Island is on, but like I'm going out, so I'll probably

have a cocktail party.

Oh my gosh, cocktails?

Yeah.

That's so cool.

What's the plan?

Where are we going?

Sure.

It's Ben's friend's Jack's birthday.

Oh, fun.

And it's a cocktail party?

Yeah, I mean, the invitation said cocktail, which I thought like cocktail entire?

No, like cocktail.

Like

it actually just said cocktail on the invitation.

Like we're having cocktails, which is such like an adult thing, but I guess he is like turning 30.

So cocktails it is.

Cocktails it is.

Cool.

Next stop, retirement home.

So that's where I'll be.

So I probably won't recap Love Island unless like I happen to like have a lame night, get home early, but I just don't see that for myself.

I don't see that for you, and you deserve a fun night.

And I think we'll probably get like a hot hangover episode tomorrow.

Okay, that's always fun for a Friday.

I think I'm going to bring Brew tomorrow.

Because every day this week I've wanted to bring him, but like I had something afterwards.

Okay, I won't bring Theo.

And I just, you guys have to see Brew.

It's been so long.

He's such an amazing boy.

He's so big.

He's such an amazing little boy.

And

his birthday is in three days.

Oh my God.

And you know what today is?

It's a four-year anniversary of me bringing Theo home.

Wow.

My time up showed me like me and Ben at the airport picking him up.

It was August 12th.

Are you sure?

Yeah.

That's crazy.

And then I remember our wedding was a month later and we sent him to like some camp for two weeks.

It was the hardest two weeks of my life.

Oh, my gosh.

So you guys, I mean, I don't want to make false promises, but I don't know why I might not bring Brew, like, unless he says, mom, I don't want to go.

No, but you definitely are going to bring him.

I won't break Theo and I'll be here with open arms for his auntie wedding waiting for him.

Oh my gosh.

You guys are going to, you haven't seen Brew like this in all the time that you've known Brew.

Like he's brand new man.

Like you've never seen him before.

He's a brand new man.

Like he's so excited.

I'm a brand new Brew.

We should get rid of the plant before he comes.

Yes.

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