S4 Ep140: Back At It Again With The White Loafers: Monday, August, 9th, 2021

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Monday that does not feel like a Monday because we have things to do.

We have to rise.

We have to grind.

We have to chit-chat with one another because Jackie's finally back in New York, back in studio, back at it again.

I'm so happy.

With the white man.

With the white man.

With the white loafers that trigger everybody.

And that's how you know I'm back because the white loafers are back.

And you know what?

Damn, Jackie.

Back at it again with the white loafers.

Yep, that's me.

I can't believe you said it doesn't feel like a Monday because to me, of all the Mondays that have ever, that have ever come across my desk, today is the Mondayest Monday of all Mondays.

You know what?

This is going to be like an opposite day kind of episode.

I'm feeling so positive.

Like maybe it's because you went to that wedding.

So like I had literally

off from Thursday.

Yeah.

So I'm so well rested.

I actually didn't do anything that crazy this weekend.

I was very civilized.

I got tons of sleep.

I did like, took really good care of my skin and my hair.

And like, I got a new hairstyle.

You didn't even comment on it.

I was waiting for a gap in the, I was waiting for a space in which I could speak.

This is a safe space, always, to give compliments.

I was going to, and I was saving it because you have this

cute new little look going on.

And I don't want to, um, I don't want to say anything offensive, but the time that I last most recently saw it was yesterday on my TV watching Love Island.

Okay, so a lot of people have been commenting on my new hairstyle, being like, are you inspired by Lydia?

Okay, and so while she might be wearing this haircut, I did I didn't notice it I saw this tick tock thing okay where one of my favorite makeup artists artists nate well she does hair too her name is Erin she did this thing where she did this and then she took them and twisted and I started to do it and I couldn't do the twisty thing but this was the first step and I'm like this is cute it's really cute you're looking so cute today I just want to say like I did not take it from Olivia okay I'm I just I really need that to go on the record.

I knew that you didn't.

I just wanted to let you know that I did see it on her.

No, you're not the only person.

Like I got millions of messages, people being like, oh my god, inspired by Olivia.

Like, no, if you watched my stories last night, you know that I do not stand with Olivia.

Yeah, I understand, and I agree.

And I'm pretty much caught up on Love Island.

I'm one episode behind.

You know watch last night?

No, but I was catching up.

I know.

Skip it.

Skip it.

It was two hours long.

I'll tell you who went home.

It was not even exciting.

The whole episode, it was really like one of those Paramount Plus specials.

Like they were playing, they played a game the whole time.

Each of the girls got like an undercover operation to do, whatever.

We have a really big TV recap.

We have so much to talk about.

Like, where do I even begin?

I don't even know.

I don't know either.

Like,

it's been so long since we podcasted, first of all.

Well, we podcasted on Wednesday.

So I guess that's like.

And it's been so long since we've been in studio.

Right.

And I just, I feel like I have to catch you guys all up.

How much weekend?

Where did you go?

What did you do?

Okay, so

my weekend was so wonderful.

I was at Blackberry Farm for a wedding, my friend Jess, and it was such an amazing, beautiful weekend, beautiful couple.

Like everything was just so beautiful.

And I was with Dana because we met Jess on birthright and Dana and I went on birthright together.

Oh, I didn't realize it was your birthright friend.

Right.

Isn't that so fun?

Wow, got to go on birthright so somebody and you can get married at Blackberry Farm so we can spend the weekend there.

Literally.

Look at the trip.

Literally.

Also, like, this is your sign to go on birthright because it's literally.

Lifelong friends.

And Dana and I were just like reminiscing on birthright the whole time.

And it just...

It was so much fun.

It really was.

Birthright is like a rite of path.

It's a birthright

for like, you know, Jews who grew up on Long Island.

But actually, that's not true.

Everyone from all around the world.

It's all Jews.

And even, I think, I don't know what the minimum amount of Jewishness you have to have.

I think you could meet a quarter Jewish.

Yeah, though.

But the thing is, is like just the kind of makeup of the trip is

torture.

It's really like the antithesis of who I am as a person.

It's lots of hikes and bus rides and early mornings.

And museums.

Museums and like, you know, boxed food.

And personally, I just, I think it's so important to know your body and more importantly, to know your limits.

And I drew a line in the sand.

I'm not even eligible, but like at a point in my life, I was eligible, but I just knew it's something I would deeply regret.

Not the experience or the knowledge, but the journey.

Yes, everything about birthright, like the schedule, you are jam-packed.

And we, Dana, and I actually went on a trip with the oldest group possible.

We went when we were 24, which is actually old for birthright.

Most people go in high school.

And it is weird to have so much structure when you're an adult.

And it's like you're on a field trip and it's like, but I'm 24, you know, and like you get these pockets of free time.

And it's just like, why aren't I just in Israel doing my thing?

But like, you know what?

It's so worthwhile and you do things that you would not bring yourself to go and do, but you learn so much and it's just such a great experience.

And they really have it like down pat, you know.

And you made friends to last a lifetime.

And we made friends to last a lifetime.

And you got invited to Blackberry Farm.

So I think it's a win-win-win.

And so it was so nice to celebrate.

How was the facility, the ground?

The facilities were so sickening.

They were so amazing.

It was camp.

Did you say it was bucolic?

Bucolic, farm chemon.

It was sickening the barns down.

The barn.

It was so campy.

Like AC was peaking.

It was camp as in nature, not camp as in high fashion.

Right.

But actually, some of us, that would have been a good caption.

Some of us brought the camp to camp.

Some of us did.

Ben literally, we in the car, and I was like, do you see Jackie?

She looks amazing.

He's like, yeah, how did she pack that dress?

I'm like, actually, I'm so glad you asked.

We have a Patreon vlog.

She did her entire packing journey on our Patreon.

Like, you should check it out if you're really curious.

You should check it out.

And it took up like my whole luggage, which is why I didn't have any clothes for the rest of the trip, which is why I barely posted on Instagram because I was wearing the same thing over and over again.

But I will say, I didn't check luggage because our flights, we had a connecting flight and there was just a lot going on.

We flew an airline I never flew before and I was just like, I don't want to leave anything to chance.

What airline have you never flown?

Allegiant.

from Florida to Knoxville.

It's like a regional airline.

Right.

You probably never even heard of it.

So I was just like, I don't know how Allegiant does.

How their bad carrying carrying skills are.

Right.

So I was like, I don't want to leave anything to chance.

I don't want to lose this dress and like ruin my weekend.

So we're not going to check luggage.

And when I tell you about my travel day yesterday, I don't know how we would have gotten home if we had checked a bag because we would have been stuck.

And I'll tell you about it in one second, but I just want to say Blackberry Farm was so amazing.

And it was all, it was so camp, but it was also so wellness focused.

Like Friday, we did like massages.

Did you find yourself going back to your pretikin best self?

I really did.

It was like a mini retreat, which I always can use.

Always.

And I was so relaxed.

Dana and I, we just like love to like sit in pretty places and read.

Read.

So we were in actual heaven.

It was such a wonderful weekend.

I was, you know, so excited to come home just because of Brew.

Only for Brew.

Of course.

Honestly, being away from Brew really threatened to ruin my entire trip.

I was like low-key depressed the whole time.

Welcome to the mom life.

It was so, so hard.

I couldn't think about him too much because I would get emotional, but I couldn't stop thinking about him.

Of course.

It was so difficult.

Like, oh my God.

It's a true Deandra's choice to think or not to think.

To vacate or to be with Brew.

So true.

Be with Brew.

Anyways, yesterday, so we, Blackberry Farm is in Knoxville.

So yesterday we had a connecting flight, Knoxville to Atlanta, Atlanta to Newark.

We took the 8.50 a.m.

flight because we're like,

that gets us home by 12.

So we left the premises at 6.45 to make our flight.

We get on the plane.

Everything seems to be going smoothly.

There's there's something broken.

Always.

We're sitting on the plane.

I fall asleep on the plane.

I wake up on the plane.

We're still on the ground.

That's the fucking worst.

And like you can see in the front, like everyone pretending to do stuff, like talking about it and sky.

They keep saying, you know, we're going to try to reset the system.

Like you're going to unplug it and plug it back in.

No, also, it's like in those situations, you really want to get off the ground, but then it's like

you're working with like a rebooted plane.

Like, is this, it's like, you don't know what you want to get in the air and like probably go down or to sit on the tarmac.

Like, I truly don't know what's worse.

No, and I said, like, they should let us know what's wrong with the plane.

And we can decide.

We should vote.

Is it something?

And if you're not comfortable, is it something we can live with?

Right.

Is it an air conditioning issue?

Right.

Or is it, you know, one of the wheels won't go down?

Right.

Or like an engine's not on.

Right.

How I agree.

Like, how

dramatic is it?

Because I've been on flights before where you get delayed because the bathrooms, the toilet's not working.

Someone's seatbelt doesn't work.

It's like, just get off the plane.

Like, take one for the team.

No, I agree.

Sometimes it's like minutiae that delays a plane.

And it's like, this is what we've been sitting around for?

Yeah.

So unclear what the issue was.

they kept saying it's a control issue they were giving us nothing and I'm pretty sure they were just going through the motions and they knew this plane was never taking off so after about two hours on the plane where we already like would have been in Atlanta whatever they de-plane us

and we're worse than the shame of reverse planing like oh my god you're like you're so lost and you're so hopeless yeah we realize we're not getting anywhere on this plane because they can't figure this out like it's just not happening our best chance is getting a new plane but we're in Knoxville Like, nobody's respecting this little flight from Knoxville to Atlanta.

And there's not just like a million flights.

You go, oh, let me just hop on this United.

No, it's not a major hub.

The plane that we need, like, is coming from Atlanta.

Yeah.

So we were, I was with Zach, Dana, and her fiancé, Josh, and we were just like, we need a plan.

We had booked backup flights because we were already missed our connecting, but

there was no plan in place for this flight.

Hate a planless flight.

And it's a really small airport with not a lot of options.

Did they have good food?

No, but it was still really early.

Actually they had like no food because then we decided to rent a car to drive to Nashville and take a flight from Nashville to JFK.

Who drove?

Josh drove.

Thank God for Josh.

And I was that's when I got hungry.

We stopped at Dunkin' and you know Dunkin' sometimes is I love Dunkin' in general but sometimes it's hit or miss.

They do have a quality control issue.

They do it's like each franchisee like just decides whether they want to take a shit in the food or they don't.

Totally.

Like do they want to use yesterday's donuts or make fresh ones today?

Like there's such quality control issues.

I couldn't agree more.

Like you can get the same thing at four different Dunkins and they'll be different colors.

No, I got my Dunkin' order.

Like, I love Dunkin' when I need a breakfast fast food item because I get those egg and cheese wraps, maybe a few assorted munchkins, a coffee.

Oh, assorted munchkins.

And when we were coming back from the Hamptons a few weeks ago, we stopped at a Dunkin' that was poison.

Literally poison.

And you know what?

I was feeling

kind of like PTSD when we pulled up to this Dunkin'.

I was like, what am I going to get?

I ordered so much stuff because I was like, it's so hit or miss.

Rolling up to a Dunkin' is like a box of chocolates.

You never know what you're going to get.

It's like a box of munchkins.

But you do know what you're going to get because they all look different.

Yeah, I guess.

Unless you just put your hand in.

Oh, yes, unless you're blind, for sure.

Anyways, we roll up to Duncan.

We order the feast and it was delicious.

It was just what we needed.

Fueled us up.

Even the coffee was good, which is

good.

That was so surprising.

So we fueled up.

Egg and cheese wraps were so good.

I did ask for a sword and munchkins, and they definitely gave me the least popular flavors.

They didn't even give me a glazed.

Okay, here's the question.

I asked for 10 years.

That's a great question.

I asked for 10.

They they gave me because i was like do your thing the guy said so you like keeping an excel spreadsheet of the donuts i i had to recount it to the group and you know i have a good memory there was four blueberry oh what nerves four chocolate so good the most and then two powdered nobody even touched a powdered in your opinion of the tradition i'm not talking about like the new blueberry the traditional munchkins what is the best flavor glazed and then Chocolate, I guess.

Yeah, me too.

But like, that wasn't an assortment when you just give me three and one of them is like your special flavor.

But also do not write off the jelly filled I don't even know if it was jelly filled We didn't even get to it no not powdered jellyfilled glazed jellyfilled.

Oh interesting interesting so Duncan fueled us up We drove to Nashville We realized on the way that we're driving through a time difference and we were like oh my god Do we gain or lose an hour?

That means wait because Nashville is central time and Knoxville was Eastern time you're kidding

when we go to Nashville it goes one hour back.

Yeah, of course I know that but you're saying in the same state in the same state so in Knoxville it was Eastern time and we drove west towards Nashville and we entered a new time zone.

Wait, I'm sorry.

I'm just really struggling.

I really want you to get to the end of your story, but like I'm really struggling with this new piece of information I'm just learning.

There's two different time zones in one state.

I think in a lot of states they have different twisted twisted.

What?

Who thought that would be helpful?

No, and it's like we had to do quick math and it turned out that we gained an hour.

of travel time, which was good.

But if it had been like the other way,

we would have missed the flight and we wouldn't have realized we'd be driving towards nothing.

Oh my god, stop!

I would have been so confused!

Like, yeah, it was really confusing.

And the car clock didn't change, I had to like manually change it because we were getting like so mixed up.

That's turnt.

So, we get to Nashville.

Honestly, the drive was like pretty pleasant.

Like, Tennessee is just like so stunning.

And luckily, like, no one had to pee or anything.

We were just like all enjoying our dunkin'.

And we made it and we got to Nashville and we got to the gate.

We had like about an hour before we boarded, and we boarded, and the plane took off.

And did you shed a tear?

It was so beautiful.

No.

Can you believe?

Yes, I mean, I actually, I don't think I'm going to be able to do that.

And that is why I did not want to check a bag because if we were waiting for our Knoxville flight, how do you get your bags off?

You can check bags.

You can't.

This is the thing.

We would have had no agency in the situation.

And we kept checking that Knoxville flight.

And I don't know if it ever took off.

When we landed, it still hadn't taken off.

The thing is, is that I personally would never have found myself in that particular situation because I'm always the one to opt to fly into the major airport and take a longer car ride.

Like I went to Morocco and we were going to Marrakesh.

But you fly into Casablanca and then you drive three hours to Marrakesh.

Now some people took the connecting flight.

We were all going to the same wedding.

Everyone on the flight was like going to the same wedding.

So some people took the one-hour flight and some people took the three-hour drive.

And we all got there at the same time and I just had to sit in a car for three hours.

So I just have to say, this is your sign.

Always go to the bigger airport and then take a car.

Like flying into Nashville and driving was not an option for anyone because there was like a perfectly good airport 30 minutes from Blackberry Farm.

And I will say when we booked our flights a few months ago for this trip, New York to Knoxville was a one-way trip.

And then Delta, you know, and all their shortages and all these airlines, by the way, the airlines are out of control what's going on there.

I know.

But Delta said, this is no longer a route.

You're now flying through Detroit.

Next day, you're flying through Atlanta.

Every day they kept changing the flights.

So we got what we got.

I had been dreading this two-stop flight ever since they moved the flights to the two-stops.

And it was worse than I could have imagined.

No, I'm actually nervous because I have like a similar adventure coming up.

I'm going to telly ride, which in the winter is very easy to get to.

In the summer, it's a one-stop.

There's less flights?

Yeah, because it's a ski destination.

Are there any days of the week?

No.

No.

Are you sure?

It's a winter, and trust me.

There's not one day of the week where there's one, where there's non-stop.

There might be.

There might be, but I can't go.

Like, what?

I'm going to go on Monday.

The wedding's not till Sunday.

I have work to do.

Bring your microphone.

But like, bring your microphone.

I worked so hard to find, like, I embraced my inner points girl, and I found a flight with lay flat beds on the way there.

And then there's, like, the 30-minute flight, like, to Montrose.

So you don't want to drive from the major airport?

It's six hours.

That's where I draw the line.

That's why I'm saying I'm like in a similar predicament.

It's like an hour flight.

Not 30 minutes.

Okay.

It's just really long.

Like, trust me, I looked into all

possible journeys.

And I'm just, now that...

I mean, obviously things aren't back to normal, but like people are traveling again.

And it's like, I kind of didn't miss this part, you know?

No, no, no.

I'm cured for life.

I will be sitting in this chair for the next 10 years, never going anywhere again.

Every time I travel, and like mostly have a negative experience, like pretty much all the time, like I swear to myself, I'm like, I'm never traveling again.

But then it's like the thirst for adventure, the wanderlust.

Oh, the wonder lust gets to me.

That's so you.

So me.

I'm a points girl at heart.

You can't, I had a dream I killed the points guy.

Murdered, like hardcore.

It wasn't an accident, like murder and buried his body.

And then like this degree.

Yeah, the investigation was like getting really close to me.

And like I knew my time was up.

And I just like felt so sad that like I killed my friend.

I was like so sad for his parents, like so sad like for my social life.

Like there was just so many elements to it.

It was really a terrible dream.

So you must have been glad to wake up.

No wonder you're in a good mood today.

Oh, and part of the reason I wanted to say I was in a good mood today is I changed my alarm and moved back 30 more minutes just to give myself a little bit more grace.

Snooze time?

No, not even to snooze, just to like move slower.

Moved it back.

Okay, okay.

Just to like move slower and like take my time.

Like I fucked up my makeup on my foundation.

I just started over because like like i had time and i think i'm gonna keep that i was really inspired by margo like she wakes up at 6 30 to work out i'm not that extreme i just needed to wake up like a little bit earlier just to like enjoy my morning instead of like literally looking in the mirror and like hating myself you know yeah i did have a long morning too i woke up like way before my alarm because i went to sleep like an hour earlier due to the long day she fell asleep early yeah but i actually feel more rested the other way when i sleep as long as i possibly can but you know what no i don't like you gotta switch it up you would think like more time equals more energy.

But no, I think like just being rushed and like hating the way you look, like that ruins my day.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like I had time to do my TikTok inspired, not Olivia, inspired hairs.

And like I'm just feeling myself, you know?

Yeah.

And I want to radiate that energy for everyone.

Feel yourselves on these, but it's Monday.

Feel it.

Even though like it literally looks like it's midnight here in our studio because the sun just like is gone and the scaffolding is just

enclosing us in darkness.

We're still here to be bright and shiny.

It is technically morning.

We didn't just record at night.

It's not the midnight toast.

And then pass it off.

Yeah, no, no, it's fully August 10th.

I have no idea.

Yeah, I think it is.

That's crazy.

That doesn't sound right.

No, it is.

August 9th.

Okay.

Oh my God, single digits.

There's a difference.

For sure.

There's a difference.

Though, I was, I just like got randomly so excited for fall this morning.

Oh my god, that's so weird that you said that.

Because

you know how like your phone does like on this day, and like I clicked it and one of the pictures was just me in like a sickening fall look and I was just like August they don't it's not on this day by the way just so you know my on this day is just like oh on your photos app yeah yes it's not on this day it's not on this day it's random pics you might want to see totally I thought you meant time hop which is very accurate very to the minute No, on this minute.

Literally to the minute.

So the picture that came up today was just like, you know, one of my sickening fall Fendi looks.

And I'm just really excited to getting back to being her because August, Jackie O is nothing of the sort.

That's so funny.

I was having a similar conversation with Ben yesterday because like, I'm so looking forward to the holidays.

And I remember last Christmas being like, it was snowing and I'm like, last Christmas.

I remember saying to Ben, or like, no, I actually said it to myself.

I said, next Christmas, like, I want to be in a different apartment because like I live in a bunker with no windows and I can't see the snow.

And I'm like, and now I'm like, it's August and I'm like still in the apartment.

Like I making a, like, I will not be in this apartment by Christmas.

I want to see the snow.

Like,

I just like, I need, I need a shift in energy, you know?

Like, even the best apartments after a while just become somehow like toxic places i completely agree and i've reached my toxicity limit like i'm so ready to move you know what we should do we should apartment swap for like a week what do you think sure except i mean like except i have a cool to bring all my shit up no but like i feel like i you

you know you just need to like get outside new perspective.

Like I love your apartment.

I think you like mine.

Yeah, of course.

No, I just think like when you're in a space that that no longer serves you, it can be very mentally taxing.

I'm being dead fucking serious.

I completely it can really contribute to like anxiety and season.

Like I really believe that it has a true impact on your mental state.

And I feel like I'm now at a place where my apartment no longer serves me mentally or physically.

And if I don't see the snow this Christmas, like I, I know it's like sounds weird.

It sounds like a Hallmark movie thing, but like if I don't see the snow this Christmas, like I'm done.

It does sound like a good plot for a Hallmark movie.

Like will she move before Christmas?

No, no, I know.

And then she, like, moves in and the snow's falling down.

And it's not for lack of trying.

Mom, this is beautiful.

Exactly.

Like, that's what I want.

Like, I'm going to get my ass a Christmas tree.

Like, for sure.

Like, that's how, that's how convinced I am.

But I just want to say, it's not for lack of trying.

Like, I'm...

The fact that I didn't move during the pandemic literally haunts me at night because everyone thought like this was an apocalyptic state and like rent was literally down by 50%.

It was so cheap.

And there was one in my building and it was just like a little too much money.

And now I'm like, you dumb fucking bitch.

Like just spend the money, you fat, ugly whore.

Like I'm so mad at myself.

Like like not a day goes by that I don't think about like not taking that apartment in my own building like and everyone moved who like stayed in the city and like got such great deals and now it's literally like highest rent since the dawn of time and it's not for lack there's no inventory like I check every day and it's just like what I want I can't afford and it's like until then I just need to work harder Is the apartment in your building still available?

No, I literally email the realtor every day.

I'm like, hey, I'm still here if you're looking for a tenant.

Damn.

Yeah.

It's so upsetting.

Sometimes you have to learn the hard way and it's so hard.

I know, but sometimes I still think about the apartment and like it was too much money.

Like I stand by that.

Really?

It was more than like you would put into your search criteria now?

No.

But like the thing is, and I was talking about with Ben, like I am so

fiscally responsible when it comes to my rent and nothing else.

Like

also, you need to, like, you should loosen up a little bit because your apartment is where you spend all of your time.

It's where you work.

It's where Ben works.

It's where Theo works.

And like, it's not just like you're one one of those New York City people.

It's like, it's just a place to sleep.

No, it's not.

It's a place to literally exist.

Yeah.

No.

No, I know.

So I'm like, why am I so?

And I actually have like a really good apartment right now for like so little.

It's like, I can't believe how little I pay.

It's like so fabulous.

But like, I think I need to like,

like, I'm constantly like spending money.

Like, it's nobody's business, but like not on the thing that matters most, my home.

That matters most where you spend, I would say, 95% of your time.

97%.

Yeah.

So that's what I'm currently working with.

And just like, keep me on track.

I need you guys to keep me accountable.

Like, I will see the snow at Christmas.

Like, I will.

Okay.

I will.

That's exciting.

I mean, I think moving is just so much fun and so exciting.

And I think change.

I still just want like outdoor space.

Like, I just, I need to elevate.

And I'm crazy.

Really?

I don't know.

I mean, you don't get it all.

I know.

And like, I just don't want a balcony.

Like, I want a full-blown like terrace.

Yeah.

No, out of control.

Like a wrap-up.

Like, no, I'm fully out of control.

Okay, cool.

Well, I'll look for you.

That's like a fun time.

Like, I know Zach is always on Street Easy.

Like, he's been sending me links.

None of them are working currently, but like, keep it coming.

Okay, cool, cool.

That's exciting.

Yeah, so that's the journey like I'm currently on.

Nice.

Well, now that I've been talking about...

In addition to watching literally every single piece of television that ever existed that I can't wait to talk about in the TV recap.

I don't know how you do it.

Oh my God.

No, like that's why I was excited to like, that's why I'm not dreading this Monday.

I have so much to talk about.

Love is Blind.

after the altar.

Love Island, OBX.

I won't spoil it, but like White Lotus.

Like I just watched everything on Planet Earth.

What did you think about White Lotus?

I'm like two episodes behind, so don't spoil anything.

Hate.

Right?

Okay, no, I'm only on like episode two.

I'm not even gonna finish it.

Me and Ben cannot get through it.

We're just like looking at each other.

We're like, why isn't this show good?

It's so slow, but like Connie Britton's amazing.

The cast is amazing.

Aesthetically pleasing.

Interesting premise.

It's like murder on the Orient.

Like, what happens?

It's atrocious.

Yeah.

I said the same thing.

I agree.

And we're so in the minority.

I couldn't put my finger on it, but I will say, so I think I watched three episodes and I haven't watched last night or the week before.

And I'm kind of like looking forward to just to watching it more just because it's, it's not unenjoyable.

And maybe it just goes to like show the state, the low state of content these days.

But that's what, but there's not.

There's so much good TV on.

So I'm like, this is what everyone's raving about.

When I first started, I'm like, oh my God, stunning.

This Connie Britton.

The cast is really great.

The cast.

I was like, this is great.

And then it just gets about.

Jennifer Coolidge, you saw his testicles.

I know.

I can't believe that didn't go viral on TikTok.

No, totally.

And I was just like,

Jennifer Coolidge, but like, what is she doing?

I don't know.

Like, she's being such a freak.

I just, I couldn't believe that.

And that's maybe an unpopular opinion, but I just couldn't believe that this was the show everyone was like felling over.

Yeah, no, I agree with you.

That was my takeaway also.

Okay.

But I am going to keep watching it.

Just.

I might.

It was good enough.

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Now, our first story is actually our final Olympics recap.

The Tokyo Olympic Games of 2020, held in 2021, are officially a wrap.

They had the closing ceremonies.

They passed the baton to Paris for the 2024 games.

I love how, like, no one watches the closing ceremonies.

Yeah.

And they said that's that on that.

But the NBC Olympics did have a Jonas Brothers performance of Remember This, which is the official song of the Olympics, and it was unbelievably stunning.

It wasn't live or anything, but it was still gorgeous.

I'm going to have to check that out.

That's like a song.

Yeah.

It's definitely a song.

I'm really looking forward to checking that out.

It was really good.

Also, the final medal count is in, and the U.S.

has eeked out their win.

39.

Slim, slim, slim by the hair on our chinny chin chin.

39 gold medals for the U.S.

to China's 38, Japan, 27, Great Britain, 22, ROC, 20.

And in the overall medal count, the U.S.

had 113, China had 88, Japan had 58, Great Britain had 65, and the ROC had 71.

I mean, it was touch and go there for a minute because, like, China was really ahead of us in the gold medals.

We were never going to lose the overall.

Like, we were ahead the whole time.

But the gold medals is equally as important.

And we were like really behind.

And a couple people pulled it out, and I just think they deserve a shout-out.

The indoor women's volleyball team,

for the first time, I think, ever, won.

Of course, men's basketball won, and of course,

women's basketball won.

And I just found out that, like, the queen of the women's basketball team, Sue Bird, who I thought Ben might be in love with, she is married or dating to Meg Rapino from the soccer team.

No way.

So there's no way Ben can get in there.

Thank God.

And then also the women's beach volleyball duo team, the A team

filled with toasters, won.

Thank God.

So like that's when we really started to like ramp up on China, like the basketball, the indoor sports.

Like we really just like cinched it.

And it was, I'm so grateful like to every single gold medal winner for taking us there.

Yes, really exciting.

And also I'm just curious.

So clearly like the U.S.

won the Olympics because we won in both categories.

But say China won gold medal count and we won overall.

Who won the Olympics?

The person who wins overall, I think.

I mean, there's no winner.

Like there's no...

I mean, the whole thing is about gold, silver, and bronze.

And then you're going to say there's no winner.

Yeah, I do feel like it's weird that there's not an official winner by country in terms of medal count, just because it is such a competitive competition.

But there's not.

So, like, there really is no considered, there's no winner considered.

I think that that is a mistake.

Like, there should be, of all the Olympics, like, you know, 2014, the winner was.

Actually, that wasn't in.

No, kind of how, like, there's all these international competitions, like, Eurovision, there's a winner.

World Cup.

World Cup.

Yeah, no, for sure.

It's kind of weird.

It's like they brought it all the way to the end zone, but it's not across the line.

No, that's a really good point.

But like, in my mind, I've always

tallied up the winner in my head, but it's not an official winner.

Yeah,

interesting, really interesting.

But I'm glad to know that, again, there's no, you know, confusion and we don't have to duke it out.

Oh my god, Elona Maher

followed me on TikTok.

She's like this woman's rugby player who went, like, she has like millions of TikTok followers because she was like TikToking through the Olympic village.

And one of her videos came up on my finger page and it said, follows you.

And I was like, what, Elona Maher follows me?

So yeah, I'm just like kind of like an Olympic influencer.

That's really cool.

But we already knew that.

Yeah, no, like not me FaceTiming drunk with Olympians in my bathroom.

I actually spoke to Emma Cobra and I forgot to mention about our FaceTime because the last time we podcasted, I don't know if you guys listened, I was really kind of anxious about like getting Blackout Drunk and FaceTiming an Olympian.

And I wasn't even sure if she like knew I was drunk or she thought this was like, I was just like a weird person sober.

And she said she definitely knew and that she loved it.

So like, thank God.

Oh my God, I told you.

Yeah, no, I had nothing to worry about.

That's so exciting.

It really is.

So that's that on that on the Olympics.

This has been really fun.

The good news is, is that the next Olympics are in less than six months.

So we have that to look forward to.

And you know what?

I can't remember.

I don't think I've ever watched the Winter Olympics since being a very proficient skier.

And so now I'm really excited to watch because I think I'll have more skin in the game.

You know what?

Once I said, like, once the Olympics are over, I will be like depressed.

And I thought I was going to be.

But I have, I can't lie, I'm curious if other people felt this way.

I felt very overwhelmed.

Yeah.

Between just like all the TV that's already on, like Love Island being on every night, all the real housewives, like there was so much TV to watch and then the Olympics, which were on 24-7.

Yeah, I felt very overwhelmed and not in a fun way.

Like in the beginning, I was like, this is fun.

I'm overwhelmed.

But then I'm like, this is not fun.

I'm not overwhelmed.

So now that the Olympics are over, I just want to say I'm not as devastated as I thought I would be.

Like I don't have FOMO.

Like I'm actually relieved.

Yeah.

I think you got your Olympics fix.

Yeah.

And the fact that there's another one six months away, like I'm already feeling like choked.

Overwhelmed.

Yeah.

But it's so exciting.

You'll be in your new apartment.

I better be.

The snow falling, watching the ice skating.

I better be.

So when is the, what is it, January?

What's six months?

It's August.

February.

8 plus 6, 14, February.

Cool.

See you in February.

Yeah, I'll definitely be in my new digs.

Yeah, that's exciting.

Yeah, new spot come through.

I'll be there.

Okay, so

we're officially putting it to bed.

Closing the book.

Closing the chapter.

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Thank you for that, Claudia.

Speaking of books.

Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

That's like dropping the Bible.

No, I'm kidding.

That was a joke.

Speaking of books, New Redheads episode is coming out on Thursday.

I've been reading the book.

I'm almost done with it.

It is so good and so cute.

And like, it really has a Camper Counselor vibe if you really look into it.

Read between the lines.

Clara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro.

And it's really a quick read, and I'm just really looking forward to seeing what happens.

I have no idea where it's taking me, but I'm enjoying the ride.

It kind of has like a Black Mirror vibe.

Oh, spooky.

Stay away.

But nothing spooky.

Nothing spooky.

Stay away.

I don't want to.

Nothing spooky.

It reminds me of the episode, the Ashley O episode most.

I will never,

ever watch that show again.

I mean, it's a good idea.

You guys know why.

You guys know why.

Stop.

Go away.

We're not in the

story two.

You're not going to ruin the show.

Go to story two.

Are you ready for story two?

Is it about the prime minister?

I was really about to make a joke, but I was like, I can't even speak it.

I can't speak it into.

Next story.

Jesse J apologizes to Nicki Minaj over Bang Bang Mix Up seven years after the song's release.

This is something.

It is.

Seven years after the Jesse J, Ariana Grande, Nicki Minaj collab, Bang Bang popped on the charts.

The trio trio song is making sense.

And changed the world.

And changed the world and just gave us so much that we didn't even deserve at the time.

And I feel like now, seven years later, it's just like, I can't believe we even had that.

No, and now it's like finding out that literally everyone involved in the song like hates it.

I don't know.

It's just like, it's crushing.

It is.

It turns out that Jesse J and Nicki Minaj remember the beginnings of the single a little differently.

And Minaj called out Jesse J's version of the story, which the singer had discussed in a recent interview with Glamour on Friday.

As Jesse J recalled, she said, quote, Nikki was played it in the studio and was like, I've got to jump on this.

We didn't go to her and ask, she wanted to do it.

But according to Nikki, who responded to Jesse J.

And by the way, Jesse J was like, and that was like the honor of a lifetime.

Like, I remember being in my apartment hearing her verse and thinking, like, how is this my life?

Like, it was a very complimentary conversation in the interview.

But according to Nikki, who responded to Jesse's quotes on Thursday with a correction, I didn't hear the song and asked to get on it.

The label asked me to get on it and paid me, she tweeted.

How would I have heard the song?

Sorry, this billboard is just all over.

So she said that they

paid her for the song and she didn't hear the song before.

And she kind of took it as an insult that Nikki would hear a song and want to jump on it.

She was very defensive.

Yeah.

But for what it's worth, she did want to get on Jesse J's song Do It Like a Dude after catching it on the radio.

She said, but the worst part about this, no one ever asked me, she tweeted with Laughing Face emojis.

I have been obsessed with that song since the minute I heard it.

Because then in Jesse J's

follow-up, she's talking about do it like a dude.

And I was like, where does that come into play?

Okay, well, I'm just focused on the bang bang of it all.

Because I just feel like, oh, wait, and then Jesse J responded.

And like,

on Friday, she apologized to Nikki over the confusion about bang bang.

She came to be with a meme-filled, lengthy post on Instagram, writing, I respect you publicly being yourself at Nikki.

So here I am being myself.

This is a video of me back in 2015 on stage taking the piss out of myself, which is basically an hour of my set.

It was made into a meme about two weeks ago.

Is that what this is really about?

And where this weird energy began between us began?

I don't understand Jesse's.

No.

Okay, so I guess.

There's this video of Jesse J, like, while the song is playing, it's Nikki's part.

And

it seems she's like mouthing it, but not really.

She's just kind of like, I guess, quote, taking the piss out of herself.

I don't know.

Jesse's response made no fucking sense of it.

Maybe Nikki saw that video and got offended by it.

And then she said, or maybe it was when he used me as a stair rail at the AMA's.

So there's like a meme of Nikki walking down the stairs and holding on to Jesse's arm.

Yeah, I really did not understand Jesse J's response, but all I know was that she was hella overcompensating for like something that she thought she did wrong.

Right.

And I don't know if I'm unique in this, but like this is just like a prime example of like why I don't stand Nikki Minaj.

Like I feel like she's always taking an opportunity to like start a fight with someone.

And this was just like so unnecessary.

Like, okay, if you really felt that strongly that you needed to correct the narrative, which it's like not a big deal.

Like if people thought, but I understand you want your story out there.

I just felt like she came like so hard at Jesse J like for literally no reason.

Yeah.

And it just makes it hard to be like a Nicki Minaj fan when she's just like, she's really not a woman who supports other women.

Yeah.

I agree with you though, knowing that she's Timonique, like I definitely want it changes things.

I just want to, you know, keep that in mind.

No, it's true because it really proves that you have like a very strong, logical, reasonable head on your shoulders.

Right, but I don't understand like, okay, so say Jesse got the timeline wrong or someone told her something to make her feel better about the song that she wrote.

She wrote, I am sure that both of the way that these two women experience it are both true.

Like there's a label involved that keep artists happy.

Nothing that Jesse said was in any way disrespectful to Nicki Minaj.

So she could have like cleared up.

She could have cleared the air and been like, oh my God, that's not how it even happened.

Like the label said this and that.

Just so funny how, you know, this all came to be.

Right.

It didn't, unless they just, unless Nicki Minaj just didn't like it.

Doesn't like Jesse.

And that's a possibility.

Also, it is kind of crazy that like this song was so big.

Nikki Minaj and Ariana Ghana are so big and they've collabed so many times.

And it is, it was like a little bit random that Jesse J was on the song.

100 and i thought oh for sure jesse j wrote the song arianna wrote the song and ariana's done an interview basically being like i can never sing that song again she has like sang it so many times because it was so popular so just knowing that like this iconic literally one of the best songs of the last 10 years is so deeply despised by everyone who's been a part of it and now it's like riddled with controversy that makes me sad and i just really felt like this was so unnecessary of nikki minaj and it's just like i feel like if she doesn't really make music a lot anymore so every time i'm hearing about her she's just like starting a fight with someone And it's like, like, leave Jesse J alone.

Like, you are the queen of rap.

And like, Jesse J's, like barely hanging on to her relevancy by a thread.

Like, leave her alone.

Like, I don't know.

It just felt like so unnecessarily like a mean girl.

I agree.

I totally agree.

Even though, like, I think Jesse Jay is probably the highlight of Jesse J's career.

Whereas, like, Nikki and Ariana have have many highlights, and this is just one of them.

But so to take...

To take away from like the one big one for her.

Agreed.

It's so sad.

Totally.

And Jesse, I don't know why it never really happened for Jesse J.

That's what I was about to say.

I think that she is so talented.

I love a lot of her music.

She doesn't really put a, actually, she just put out a song called I Want Love, and it's so fucking good.

She obviously

has management.

Like, she, there's something about Jesse J that like the world refuses to like accept.

Yeah.

But like she didn't really help herself when she like performed at like an award show with an

she like sat the whole time because she had a broken foot and like she bedazzled her cast.

And like for me, that's really all I remember about Jesse J.

Actually, if you're ever wondering like, why do Jackie and Claudia think that Jesse J is so underrated?

You must go watch the videos of her on YouTube in that really big Chinese talent show.

Yeah.

It's like this show in China that like people who are already famous go on, but it's like great to go on to like expand your Chinese audience.

And she won, first of all, and she has like four or five performances.

She did a bunch of Whitney Houston.

I'm trying to remember which song she did.

Whatever.

Literally, you've never heard vocals like that in your life.

It's so spectacular.

She's so talented and she writes amazing songs, but there's something like about her that just won't take off.

It doesn't hit and it doesn't stick.

I know.

Even like she's super relevant like with her relationship with Chatting Tatum.

Like she really has all the makings of like what should be a huge pop star, but there's something about it that just doesn't work.

Yeah.

And that makes me sad because I'm a big fan of hers.

Same.

And I just like with this whole drama, I do stand with Jesse J.

Like you're right.

This is the highlight of her career.

I'm like Ariana and Nikki like couldn't care less about it, which I get because they're accomplished in their own way.

way, but like it just really felt like really unnecessary of Nikki to come at her like this.

Yeah, I agree.

Like, it's been how many years, and she's still doing interviews about it.

Like, oh my god, stop, I'm gonna cry.

You know what I mean?

It's like, Nikki's not, like, no,

so it was just kind of sad.

Yeah, the whole thing was really sad.

And then, like, the saddest part was Jesse's J's response to Nikki's, like, unnecessary children.

Should we get dinner?

LOL, no.

No, and like, all these picnic, like, a whole essay on Instagram with like memes.

Like, she was just overcompensating so hard because, like, she obviously doesn't want to mess up this one great thing, like, in her career.

Yeah, yeah.

And it makes me really sad.

Yeah, I felt sad after just the whole synopsis.

It was honestly like a really emotional journey, this whole thing.

Yeah, and it was like what is a really great iconic song.

She might have let you hold her hand at school, but I'ma show you how to graduate.

Now, what I mean to me, talk, the talk, just show me what your mama gave you.

D, do

Looks so good.

So fucking good.

You know that's good.

It's six pieces.

Oh, oh.

So nigga got a wee.

Oh, jump.

Johnny,

rider.

And that could.

Oh, Batman, rhyme.

It's me, Jesse, and Ari.

If they test me, they sorry.

Ride us up like a holly and roll us in this Ferrari.

If he hangin', we bangin'.

Phone rangin', we slay him.

If that karaoke might check in, remember remember no sang.

Oh, B, to the A, to the N, to the G, to the N.

Hey, hey, hey!

Like, and then Jesse J hits, oh, no, Ariana hits that note.

Wait, who would that say?

I mean, they're all hitting notes.

They're hitting everything.

No, I think it's Jesse J.

It's so good.

Yeah.

I will actually will not let this story overtake the legacy of that song.

I will not.

I will not.

Will I?

No.

No.

No, she will not.

I'm not will I am.

I'm will I not.

So I think we should move on before it does.

Yes.

No, I'm getting like sweaty.

Sorry.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

rihanna reacts to becoming a billionaire with the best three-word response so last week forbes revealed that rihanna's estimated net worth is about 1.7 billion dollars most she's almost a two-time billionaire like yeah right like you're a little late then you're about seven

point seven

i understand not 700 million late i understand not wanting to make the announcement at like 1.0 because like no it's still touch and go maybe the stock market has a bad day but like 1.1 1.2 like why they wait till 1.7 yeah she is now the richest female musician in the world and the second richest female entertainer, only behind Oprah Winfrey.

That's crazy because like I don't even think of her as a musician anymore.

I know.

When Paparazzi approached her and asked her what it meant to her to be a self-made billionaire, she only had three words to capture how blessed she is.

She said, quote, God is good.

Oh, I mean, this is obviously not shocking at all because Fenty Beauty is so popular.

So is Savage X Fenty.

Like, she has a million endeavors that are just so sickening.

And I just feel like this is happy and sad news because it's happy.

We're so happy for Rihanna.

I just feel like this sets us back even more.

You know,

in the music department.

And I actually think it's inherently possible.

Like we will never get new music.

And I think we as a society have to come to grips with that.

And if we get one, great.

But I just think our expectations should be really low just when it comes to music.

Yeah, our expectations should be zero, really.

Yeah.

So we'll only be pleasantly surprised if it happens, but not disappointed if it doesn't.

Yeah.

I agree.

So when I heard this news, I'm like, that's amazing.

But we're one step further from new music.

Exactly.

I feel like.

But it's so important.

But she's also always like doing collabs still, you know?

Yeah.

Always lending her talents.

Seconds from Wallin.

That is also, I think, one of the most underrated songs ever.

So fucking good.

And it's like, what does Paul McCartney do?

Unclear because you don't really hear him, but happy that he got to hang out with Rihanna and Kanye.

Yeah.

Speaking of Kanye, Donda's still not out.

Yeah.

But Kim went back to Mercedes-Benz Stadium, so all is right in the right.

Right.

right.

And the kids were there, and she was all dressed up.

Yeah, her outfit wasn't as sickening this time.

But it was Kanye-ified.

And

I liked it just as much as I liked the other one in the sense that, like, it was, she was doing something.

She was wearing a ski mask.

Yeah, no, but she was doing something.

It wasn't for me.

Okay.

Until you're like, you'll be wearing it in two years.

For sure.

That's how the world works.

For sure.

So I was just glad to see them all together.

Like, even if Donda, you know, whenever it comes, I'm just, they're giving us like

co-parenting

modern family vibes, you know,

and they're giving us hope.

You know what I recently

could get back together.

I feel like they might be.

I feel like they might realize that really there's no one on their level and that it's not, the grass isn't greener.

I actually think that's entirely possible as well.

You know what I recently re-watched, as in recently I met yesterday?

Airplane karaoke with Kanye and James Corden.

It's so good.

So good.

It's so impressive.

Like I always forget about Sunday service because they haven't done it in a while, or maybe they have, but like, Kim's not storying it.

It's literally the most impressive thing.

Yeah.

So good.

If you're ever feeling down, like, I should really make a YouTube playlist of like things I watch when I'm down.

That includes Jesse J and all of her Chinese talent show performances.

It includes that video of Beyonce singing in the back of the car.

It includes a couple Fifth Harmony covers before they were famous and before they started releasing music.

Lego House, so good.

Red Taylor Swift, so good.

The making of Getaway Car, the Bridge.

Like, there's just so many YouTube videos I could list off.

Caitlin and Sean's engagement.

I don't watch that anymore just out of respect, but I used to watch it all the time.

One of my favorites.

But, you know, she's in a better place.

And maybe if we get a televised version of their engagement, I'll have something to replace it with on my plate.

I don't know if you have one.

Televised?

Not tell, like, we have a video of Jason and Caitlin's engagement.

Because remember, they were like recording for the podcast.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is.

Okay.

Are you ready for our next story, which is about relationships?

So it's a great segue.

It's a great segue into my best relationship, the one with my dog, Theo.

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Are you ready for our next story?

A bit of relationship news?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tyler Cameron and girlfriend, Camilla Kendra, split after eight months.

Tyler is crazy.

C and his girlfriend have split after eight months of dating, and only one week after he called her, his soulmate pitched his learn.

That's what I was thinking.

He literally just said she's his soulmate.

I'm watching what happens live.

Do you think that the timing is like at all suspicious?

Like, what is this?

10 days after he sat down with me for an hour?

And he sat down with Theo.

I think he saw like what his life could be.

And he was like, I don't know if I could have this with Camilla.

Yeah, because Theo belongs to Claudia.

I just think, I think the timing, it's worth pointing out.

Yeah.

A source told page six that things took a turn, which is a weird thing.

I really want to know what happened, which is a weird thing to say.

Which that's a weird thing.

Because literally, they were on Watch Trap and Live together one week ago.

Soulmate.

The word soulmate was used.

Though he also said that.

And if we're finding out now, it couldn't have been yesterday.

It must have been a few days ago.

Yeah, but he also, it couldn't have been that much different if he, like, they were together a week ago.

But he also said, it must have been really abrupt, though.

You know, like there's a lot of people.

No, but I'm saying if this article's out today, there's no way they broke up this morning.

Like this must be a few days old.

Yeah.

And he was on Watch Top 5 a week ago.

So this literally must have broken up three days after Watch Travel Exodus.

He also spotted in Jacksonville, Dumois posted a blog with a blonde girl all over him.

So it looks like he had a single weekend.

So they probably broke up late last week.

But I will say just like maybe he used the word soulmate.

He also called Matt James his soulmate.

So like maybe he could still say like Camilla is a soulmate.

Maybe he thinks you can have a lot of soulmates.

Yeah, maybe he's one of those people who thinks like your friends are your soulmates.

Yeah, maybe they're friends.

But things took a turn just quickly.

That usually we don't get that.

We get scheduling, we get this, we get that.

Yeah, no, and it's like over the course of time, like, we're questioning, like, did they break up?

They unlike this photo.

Yes, photo.

They unfollowed each other.

But, like, they

are broken up.

Like, 100%.

It's hard.

It's over.

I wonder why.

Like, when you're both so stunning, what is there to fight about?

I don't know.

I'll ask Ben.

Oh, also.

I think he might need some emotional support.

So if you wanted to send Theo down to his place.

Dr.

Jacksonville.

That would be so sweet.

I just kind of want to put some of the rumors to rest.

Okay.

I'm not wearing my ring today because I forgot.

So just I know everyone's like constantly thinking like me and Ben.

Thinking stuff.

I'm the queen of forgetting to share my ring.

You always are.

And it's just so crazy how like when I don't wear my ring, which is probably 50% of the time people are like, Jackie's not wearing her ring.

It's like, do you watch a show?

No, but like, what about the other 50% when I am?

Right, right.

I'm usually pretty good, but like, I genuinely forgot today.

Also, my nails are so disgusting.

I just don't think it's right to put diamonds on these fingers.

My nails are disgusting.

Briddle.

Crack.

I have had not one opportunity.

I haven't gotten a manicure in so long.

My nails are, I might have to go today because I just,

it will, it will improve my mental health if I stop looking at these hands.

No, I mean, I literally left the house yesterday and walked around the block, went to two different places to try and get my nails done, closed.

That's really upsetting.

You know, I just was saying to Ben, this used to be the city that never slept.

Recently, everyone's sleeping quite a lot.

Like, it's no longer this like hustle-bustle.

The other night, I was like, wasted.

Tried to get McDonald's at like 2 a.m.

Like, they were closed.

McDonald's?

That's it.

No, they're sleeping.

Yeah, no, everyone's asleep.

I'm just saying, wake the fuck up, bitch.

Frank Sinatra would be, did he say city that never sleep?

Yeah.

I wanna wake up in a city that doesn't sleep.

Yeah, he would be very disappointed.

He is like shaming you.

Wake up.

Are you ready for a fifth and final story?

Is it the final story?

Beautiful.

Stunning.

Yeah, what is it?

Renee Zellweger supports and

stead during Supercar Gala for her first public event as a couple.

You and I haven't spoken about this because...

We haven't.

I think I did it with Olivia, who I knew would be like so interested in the drams.

There is a lot to unpack here.

So first, Renee Zellweger is showing support for her boyfriend, who is Aunt Anstead.

Who used to be married to Christina Antstead?

Who used to be married to Tariq Elmusa.

Who is currently engaged to Heathery Young?

Okay, so that's what you need to know.

That's the backstory.

And Renee Zellweger, A-lister, Oscar Winter.

Judy Garland.

Judy Garland.

Who used to be married to Kenny Chesney for 11 seconds.

Yep, the couple stepped out on Saturday night to attend the Radford Motors Gala at the Lionair Museum in Santa Ana, California.

Lionaire?

Lion with a Y.

I just, whenever I think of Lionaire, I think of the orphans and children and widows.

Of course.

They unveiled their new coach built, sports card, whatever.

Who cares?

Okay.

Other important factoid.

In photos shared by Real Housewives of Orange County alum Lydia McLaughlin and her husband Doug, the pair smiled along Zellweger and Anstead in formal attire for the big night.

So unclear.

I mean, clearly Lydia and her husband were at this event.

Unclear if this is, you know, a dynamic for some, or

Lydia is a fan and has to take a picture and

we're hanging out.

Ant is going to be on the cover of the next seasonal issue of Noblemen.

Yeah.

That the hottest magazine in all of Orange County.

That really could happen.

I'm just really in shock over the whole thing.

Like, first of all, Renee Zellweger dating a reality star, it's shocking and it never becomes less shocking.

He's not a reality star.

He's a British TV host.

Okay, that's...

What does he host?

Reality shows?

No, like these car shows.

Like, I don't know.

He's not a reality star.

Okay, reality star adjacent?

Yes, because he was married to Christina for 11 seconds.

Yeah.

So just Renee Zellweger dating him, like when you get such an A-lister, and it's kind of reminding me of like Zoe Dishanel and the Property Brothers.

Yes!

Oh my God, that's gorgeous.

Which at its time was shocking and now it's just a fact of life.

No, not for me.

I'll still never be surprised by it.

They're so

like they've been together for so long.

I don't think there's any, you know, issues there.

So it's just like a fact of life.

Like Zoe DeCanel dates the Property Brothers.

And married?

No.

Okay.

The other one got married.

Like, this to me is, you know, like Nick Vile dating John Marie Jones.

Like, it's shocking stuff.

Did D dating Tyler Cameron?

It's shocking stuff.

So I haven't had a chance to just come here and say that.

Well, I have more layered information for you if you're ready for it.

So obviously this whole thing is so weird because how you go, like this is creep, this is connecting Heather Ray Young to Renee Zelleger.

We know that.

It's just a crazy turn of events.

But what's even crazier, and I saw it on TikTok, this girl did a huge deep dive because she too was like obsessed with the layeredness of it all.

Did you know that Aunt Anstead has a sister?

Correct me, I might be getting this wrong, but it's somewhat of the same gene.

Elk.

or it's either his sister or his sister-in-law started a podcast a little while ago with Heather Ray Young.

Yeah.

And then

one of them dropped off, and no, they obviously don't do the podcast together anymore.

I think it's Heather dropped off.

That can't be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, it's twisted.

That can't be right.

Hold on, let me find the TikTok because the girl did, she did like a huge in-viewing your TikTok theories.

Like, no offense, I read the video.

There's a theory book about the Titanic because of your TikTok theories.

And they literally squashed that rumor that

you said of like with the

in one fucking second.

What'd they say?

Which rumor were you?

There's a lot of like.

The one that I was saying was that it was like a conspiracy because the Federal Reserve or something.

Okay, they didn't even mention that.

That's how, that's how low level that theory is.

But the one where they swapped out the Olympic for the Titanic to get the insurance money for the Olympic.

I didn't say that.

And the guy was just like, why wouldn't you just start a fire if you want to sink the ship as opposed to killing a thousand people?

Okay, I can't find the TikTok, but I will.

I just like really, really full of pertinent information.

You really need to start questioning these TikToks.

Oh, I disagree wholeheartedly.

I think they're incredibly.

And I feel like what also comes to mind is that guy who started that rumor about Kanye.

Yeah, but he was...

That guy's just like a shit-starting YouTuber who does that for fame.

I just, we really need to start questioning these TikToks.

So I'm questioning it.

Is this it?

I'll find it, but okay.

And I'll post it on our reels.

Okay, cool.

It's worth, it's worth going down.

Sneeches and stead.

Okay, let's dive into TV.

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Okay, Real House is the Potomac.

Literally, that house is so sickening.

I actually looked it up because I'm like, we should spend the weekend at the estate.

Okay, it's literally, the website's broken.

Like I could not find a rate if my life depended on it.

Like it's the website's been down.

Maybe so many people were looking it up because of last night.

Oh, maybe that it crashed.

I have so many grievances with this episode, but the one that I literally cannot get over is Robin Dixon shoving Mia out of her room.

Not asking, but just telling.

If anyone did that, it's so disrespectful.

But Robin Dixon, like, you don't carry that much weight in this show.

Like, you're barely hanging on to this cast by a thread.

Don't be disrespectful.

She was so, and the fact that Mia just took it, because she finally got on a good place with Rob, with Robin and Giselle, and I think she saw what it could be like to be on the bad side, and she wanted nothing to do with it.

So she just said, okay.

No, but it's like Robin and Giselle literally can't help themselves.

When they were having cocktails with me and they were all really having a nice time and like they came to an understanding and they have an appreciation for Mia, I was like, wow, how bad could Robin and Giselle really be?

Like, if you're friends with them, it's probably fun and they're probably funny and that, you know, it's a good time.

But like, not even in the next scene, they're just like, they can't help but be so mean.

About even like this, like, she walked in in the gown, she's like, and Giselle in her commentary is like, is that the gown you wore to the strip club?

Because she said it.

They literally

can't get over.

There's a strip propolle, and they're like, wow, you've never, you've obviously done that before.

Like, she's been so honest about everything.

Her clit, her meeting her husband at a strip club.

She's literally not been live about one single thing.

And they're just so nasty.

Like, I literally, this episode, I didn't think it was possible to hate Giselle and Robin even more, but I hate them so much.

And I cannot wait for Wendy, Zen Wen, to rip the fuck into Giselle.

Somebody has to do it.

I can't believe that it's going to be Wendy who is the one who all of our hopes and dreams are relying on, you know?

Because, I mean, after this episode, and Wendy really is just like all over the place this season.

I have no idea.

Like, who is she?

Who is she?

And it's like, if this were her first season, I'd be like, oh, she's great for women.

But just in the context of last season, I'm just like, who are you?

And I, like, even though I hate Giselle, she is justified in her confusion about Wendy because, like, literally, Wendy showed up on that bus looking snatched.

Like, that bodysuit that, like, showed her hips, amazing.

Who is this woman?

Like, she really is acting so different that it is confusing for everyone.

I wonder if it's the fame of the show.

I don't think it's because there's a rumor about Eddie, so she had her whole body redone.

I think.

I don't know.

The timing is weird.

I think it's the show.

Like, I think she'd had one season.

I think she thought she got good reviews.

And now she's like, I'm going to be the next Martha Martha Stewart.

Like, really, I don't think that people used those that those things used to happen more often, like in the earlier days of Real Housewives, where, like, you know, you do one season, and then all of a sudden, you're true faith, you know, and like you have a big brand that you're gonna launch.

I don't think her first season was, you know, acclaimed enough for her to have that sort of takeaway.

And I also think it's the fame is like getting to her a little bit.

I actually think that, like, this season, I'm liking her more just because she's less up Robin and Giselle's ass.

ass.

But this candle thing, like, I'm sorry, I cannot get on board.

Like, I'm with your mom, like, throwing away your doctorate and your political commentating career to start a candleline that your husband finances, like, that's just so cliche.

And I'm, I just, I'm sorry, like, I, I can't get on board.

No, not at all.

I don't even think it's cliche.

I think it's outrageous.

It's outrageous.

I've never heard of it before.

And she doesn't even have a passion for like owning her own business.

She doesn't even know you like needed a trademark.

Like, it's not like this is a huge dream of hers.

It's like every decision she's making in her personal life recently makes no fucking sense.

Yeah.

And it's so contrary to who I thought she was.

So was she lying last season?

Is she lying this season?

Like, who is the real Wendy?

So Giselle is asking a valid question there.

Also, the moment that really bothered me the most was when Candace was telling everyone what rooms they would be in on the bus, like into the microphone.

Like, I can't stand her.

Can't diss.

Like, I,

she's so,

oh my God.

I fast forwarded through her personal scenes because I do.

I do have to protect my mental health.

She just had so much, like, she was so excited to tell Karen.

You plan the trip.

What do you mean?

Like, the producers put your name on it.

So, totally.

She was so excited to tell Karen and Wendy and

the other girl.

Wait, who?

The other new girl.

Oh,

Scala.

She actually

bothering me less than that.

They're going to form an alliance, and the main house girls are going to turn on each other.

But the thing is that Ascala is a friend of Robin.

Not for long.

Which is a huge red flag.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Next episode seems to be good because they are finally having like a dinner, all of them, where they're going to talk about some stuff.

So when Ashley finally shows up, Ashley has the fiery baton.

No, but it's like,

she just had a baton and she set it on fire because...

Giselle is the one who's supposed to bring up the Eddie rumors.

And so Ashley gave her one minute to do so before she's going to tell Wendy.

And that's why I fucking love Ashley.

I love Ashley so much.

She is literally, and even when, and like, it's fucking Candace who's like, you gave birth two minutes ago and you're going to come on the trip.

It's like, your coochie, she's just so disrespectful.

like so your coochie's ripped open like are you kidding me like that's how we're talking about children it's like that's how much Ashley takes her job seriously like and you can see how attached she is to her baby she's wearing glam literally her newborn baby's three days old Giselle's coming over to look at her baby she hates Giselle and it's like she's literally like putting her child near Giselle Even though she probably doesn't want to, in full glam, literally her coochie ripped open.

And

she's such a good housewife.

She's such a good housewife.

She never stops.

And she's such a good mom.

And she'll probably bring the new baby with her.

And like, like, she will do it fucking all.

And she will throw that fiery baton into the house.

And she showed up for one fucking day.

No, I agree.

Like, I just, and maybe it wouldn't be if, like, I didn't dislike Candace so much, but like, everything she does bothers me.

Like, oh, I forgot to invite Ashley to the girls night.

Oh, I forgot to invite Ashley on the girls trip.

Like, just, if you don't like, like, just be honest.

Like, no, that I hate when people are like nasty and then they're like, who?

Who me?

It's like, no, at least be nasty and fucking own it.

Own it, Lisa.

Oh, 100%.

So it was just like a really frustrating episode because I'm like, I feel like I'm on this island alone with Karen and you, like, and Ashley.

Yeah.

And they're just, they don't have enough people on their side.

No, but Wendy is coming to the island and she's going to Karen's hometown.

And if Giselle makes fun of it, that was really smart of me.

If Giselle makes fun of Karen in her hometown one more time, like, I can't.

It's so disrespectful.

Like, you blink and you might miss it.

Like, so rude.

Everything that comes out of Giselle's mouth is so judgmental.

And then she's like, genuinely confused why people don't like her.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

That was so rude.

Everything is just a dig, a dig, a dig.

Yeah.

So I-I want Ray to live.

I want Ray to pay his bills.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Like, she's literally holding on to this one thing that Karen did at the reunion, which was talking about things everybody already knew.

When Giselle has literally built her housewife's career off the bones of other people's personal business, she brings up all the rumors.

She brings up all the cheating.

She brings up everyone's personal life, everyone's husbands, everyone's children.

That is literally who she is.

And Karen did it once.

Rightfully so.

Rightfully so.

Karen did it one fucking time.

And Giselle thinks that, like, literally, she's owed an apology for the rest of her life.

With a fact.

With her seats.

And Giselle lives in a glass house.

She throws stones every fucking episode.

She gets one stone in her window.

And it's World War III.

It's so hypocritical.

Like how do you do that?

How could she not like see herself?

It's reminding me of Dorinda.

Where it's like, I'm having a hard time even watching this person be so, for Dorinda, it was like so misbehaved.

And for Giselle, it's so hypocritical.

It's the true definition of hypocrisy.

It's infuriating.

And last night was no exception.

Like, just the way they were sitting there.

Does anybody want to apologize?

Shut up.

Yeah, I want you to apologize.

Karen is just so mature and she's a queen.

Her answers are perfect.

Are you talking to me?

So good.

She's so composed.

Like, she doesn't let Giselle get to her.

She's really

hard.

It affects her, you know, because they are so fucking mean to her.

So mean.

But I'm not sure.

And like, when Karen, you know, when she's a role model.

When Karen walked onto the bus in her stunning coat.

Pink coat.

Stunning.

Like, she looked amazing.

And Giselle and Robin were like, now that's like, what are you talking about, poncho?

Poncho.

One word.

Poncho.

Her coat was so pretty.

Like, okay, first of all, even if it wasn't, like, to make someone fun of someone in front of their face, but like, again, look in the mirror, poncho.

For Giselle to even make the slightest remark, grimace.

about someone else's style, whether that be interior design, whether that be personal style, fashion choices, is literally the definition of hypocrisy.

No, it's the pot calling the kettle black.

It's just madness.

And you know what I also find like crazy, but I don't mind it.

It's like Giselle has gotten ripped apart for her style like every single season after season.

Like I think even when she thinks it's getting better, it's actually just getting better.

And I just can't believe that she hasn't just like brought someone in to fix the problem.

Maybe like she just can't hide bad taste.

Like you just can't.

Yeah, or maybe she brings in someone who she thinks is good taste.

Or maybe like, you know, she just writes that off as like, you know, haters, but like the haters actually have a really valid point.

Like you need a stylist.

Yeah, no, but like she would hire the wrong one still.

Totally.

Yeah.

So that's it.

It's actually turning out to be a very good season.

And I feel like this Wendy stuff is really going to blow shit up.

Like I can't wait.

Yeah.

I'm like sad for that Wendy's family has to be drugged through the mud, but like if that's what it took for her to see like who Giselle really is,

then it had to happen.

Yeah.

And I'm sorry.

I'm sorry too.

Okay, let's talk about Love Island.

Let's.

I have some.

Literally nothing happened last night.

There was a recoupling, but basically, one couple went home, and it was just the

America voted who their three favorite couples were.

Andre and Trina, who like are actually both open to delving more into whatever this might be, even though there's only like a week left.

Olivia and Corey, obviously.

And who was...

Oh, Will and Kira.

Boring.

Will and Kira.

That's a lie.

Will and Kira went to the bottom.

By the way, because they were in the bottom and they haven't done anything to come out of the bottom.

I think they got less votes.

I think it's rigged.

100%.

They got less votes because do you see their faces?

I'm, I guess, two episodes behind me me because they were shocked.

Because Cash still hasn't gone home and I don't know who

Andre is, I don't think.

Is he new?

Oh, he's a new Brazilian guy who came in for Olivia.

Oh, okay.

I met him.

Yeah.

And also

one other thing.

Oh, I thought that Corey was going to choose Bailey.

Let me guess.

Jeremy got her.

Yeah, and Jeremy was in the bottom.

With literally no fucking effort whatsoever.

Jeremy was in the bottom with this other, these two other couples.

And literally, like, we're like, we're saving Jeremy again.

But this other couple full of new people who you like literally don't even need to meet because they left.

She basically was, she like very outright said, like, I'm not feeling a connection with this guy.

So Arielle was like, who do you think has the least potential here as a couple?

And they had to say this couple because she literally said she didn't like him.

Like, okay.

So of course Jeremy got saved and so did Charlie and Alana, who I love Alana.

Oh my gosh,

and they're a couple now.

Yeah.

Okay.

Cause I saw them on their way to couple them.

So people just think that like Charlie's really toxic and like he used cash to get from Casa Moore into the house, but I don't really see it that way.

Like I actually think he's a genuine guy.

I don't, like, I've been reading a lot of like Reddit and like tweets, and people just like are not here for Charlie.

They think he's like, you know, a user.

I don't really get that vibe.

Like, he's allowed to explore.

Like, he was really into Cash.

When they got back to the house, Cash was so clearly caught up with Cinco.

Like, of course, it would turn him off.

And I think he was justified in exploring other things.

And he was into Alana and he chose Alana.

And by the way.

Cash wasn't even mad.

The second she got sent home.

She's packing her thing.

She's like, I can't wait to see Sinko.

Like it was always Cinco.

So why are we mad at Charlie for sending her home when Cash is literally here saying it was always Cinco?

Yeah, I agree.

I watched the breakup or the attempted breakup go down.

I did and I felt like he was pretty honest.

Like, and I don't, you know, I don't really know what he...

I don't know what more people want from him.

Yeah.

So, but what's so funny is like the girls are so hypocritical.

I'm like, nobody fucking calls him out.

Like, first of all, Olivia with Corey, like, I watching her try and talk about like how she wants to salvage their, you know, their love when there's nothing there, whatever, fine, she can say what she wants.

But wait, so He's into Bailey and he's talking to Bailey and having a lot of conversations with Bailey.

And they're like, how do I know if I if he's disrespecting me?

And Cash was like, If he kisses her or if he like lies about something.

And then literally,

Olivia and he, she's like, Is Corey's head turning?

Is Corey's head turning?

Then those two new guys come in, and Olivia goes into the confessional.

She's like, My head is turned.

And it's like, imagine if Corey acted like that when Bailey showed up.

And she, like, she kisses him like so quickly.

And like, just everything she's saying is like, if Corey did those things,

it would be like over.

A lot of these girls are literally literally the definition, you either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain because towards the end of Cash's time there, like she was starting to be like a little hypocritical, just in like the way she did with Charlie.

And like she literally did things with Charlie that she was mad at Cinco for doing.

Like it was just becoming like a little obvious.

Literally, so Charlie tries to communicate.

And Charlie said this.

He's like, you're all about communication, but I tried to communicate with you.

And you got up and walked away.

And you got up and walked away.

And like, so Charlie says, like, I don't want to continue further.

And Cash.

Can't handle it.

Can't handle it.

And then literally the next day is like, Charlie says, I mean, Cash says to Charlie, you can tell me anything.

anything yeah no she was but she was unraveling in the Charlie thing most I think probably because she was like still just like upset about Cinco but I actually think that's why I think it's perfect timing that she left because she's beloved she they booked her flight home she had a layover in DC Cinco met her in DC they met up she missed her connecting flight she went home with him and had family dinner with his family like that ended the way it was supposed to end she got a storybook ending and I think like people were really sad that she left but I think literally a perfect time could not have come faster yeah because it was starting to sour it was starting to just be like you're saying things and doing things that are

misaligned.

Yeah.

It was a perfect time.

And like, you're saying that so-and-so can go talk to so-and-so, but then, like, you're so upset.

And then, like, you were just like saying and doing like the exact opposite things.

And I think a lot of the girls are guilty of that.

So now it's like Olivia's kind of

the last OG who's like still relevant.

Like, Trina's OG, but she's so quiet and she's like so stunning and perfect.

Like, I can't, I don't have a bad word to say about her.

Like, she should win, even though she has no connection with this guy, just because, like, they deserve it.

Like, she's been through a lot on this show, and she should have gone home like a thousand times, but she's sticking down.

She she has such a positive attitude and she's such a good friend like i just love her no i love her but olivia is like see

what's happening to olivia is what would have happened to cash if cash hadn't gone home i'm just starting to really like resent her and i think everything she says is fake and now that all the fan favorites literally 11 people had to leave for olivia to become the main character and she's just like talking and she's just like so annoying like like she just like is feeling the main character energy but it's like shannon had to go home josh had to go home singo had to go home cash had to go home literally a million people had to go home in order for you to like get this position next to you.

For you to shine.

She's like, not me in a love triangle.

Like, shut up.

Like, she's talking like Cash.

Like,

someone DM'd this to me, and I really started to notice it.

Like, and I guess it's like it used to happen to me at camp.

Like when I would be with my friends and like, there was this one girl who was Latin and she would like always say these Latin things.

And I started to pick up on it.

And you definitely, when you are with people a lot, start to talk like that, but she's literally cloning Cash's persona.

Not me being in a love triangle.

Ew.

Like, that's what Cash is feeling.

She says, ew, ew, not me catching feelings.

Oh, that's it.

She says it 500 times a day.

Oh, my God.

So she's like, literally skinning cash and wearing her.

Like, it's crazy.

And so I'm just starting to think

that she still won't win.

Like, I'm really concerned now about who's going to win.

And I cannot, it cannot be Will and Kira.

There was no way to know that Josh and Shannon would have to leave.

And for a million, like, of course, for personal reasons, like, it's so devastating.

It's the most sad story I've ever, like, imagine being away.

Like, it's just horrible.

Horrible.

But also, for the continuity of the show, it kind of really fucked things up because I think their biggest mistake, there was like this, the episode that I was like, that I played out for you, where Florida went home, Amy and Wes went home, and

someone else.

Oh, Isaiah.

Yeah.

So randomly, they sent four people home when Amy and Wes are still together.

And she like did a story that she's moving to Denver.

Like they're legit.

Florida had hard connections with two guys in the villa.

And Isaiah was like, a man about town.

I don't understand why they did that because ever since then, I just feel like

the composition of the group was never the same.

Yeah.

And then they just kept sending people home.

And they keep sending people home who are at the dawn of connection.

And it's like, okay, we can't say we're connected because we met yesterday.

Yeah.

But like, maybe I should have told you that.

How about the people who have been here for like 30 days who are still single?

Trina, Jeremy, Olivia, up until yesterday.

Yeah, no, I agree.

That's like a kind of fault in the show that it's like, it's built and it's designed to keep the OGs.

And most of the OGs

this season haven't been able to.

They had their time.

and they've had a million connections.

Jeremy had Trina, he had

Amy, he had Flo.

Yeah.

He had Bailey.

He had everyone.

He had the other girl from Jenny.

Genevieve.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Like, he had, oh my god, Genevieve DM'd me, like, starting a fight.

Like,

it was twisted.

I didn't respond because I'm like, why am I fighting with this like 22-year-old?

But she, like, I'm always just recapping Love Island on my story.

And she put up this like picture with her in cash.

I mean, with her in Cinco.

And I was just like, it was just like a confusing photo.

Like, I just posted a question.

I just posted it with a question mark because I'm like, what does this mean?

Like, are they guys?

Why are they, where are they together?

Or are they together?

Like,

asking questions, like, she put up a misleading photo.

And she, I'm going to read it.

Like, it was so, like, she was like attacking me.

And I'm like, no, it was out of control.

I didn't even tag her.

Like, I don't even know how she found it.

It was out of control because you didn't say anything.

You just asked a question.

Oh, here, she said.

We got voted off together.

We're like brother and sister.

Don't try to make it seem like something it's not bestie.

I want cash to get her man's too.

I'm like, you're making it seem like something it's not like you're the one who posted the photo that's misleading first of all second of all like don't call me bestie like i've never met you no i totally agree and also i cannot like why you beef with me like another pet peeve of mine which love island had brought to light and i just want to say oh no not even that but i want to say shannon and josh when they went on their one-on-one shannon called him a man i just want to thank oh my god i noticed that too i want to thank shannon for that because

i noticed that too it meant so much to me but another pet peeve of mine and just life in general is when people are like we're like brother and sister, especially when you met two fucking weeks ago.

Like, brother and sister have spent their whole life.

No, so anyone who says we're like brother and sister, no, like a girl, when it's like, What's going on between you and Jared?

Oh, he's like, He's like my brother.

Well, is he your brother, or can you fuck him?

There, it's clear as day.

So, especially since they met two weeks ago, like that, my pet peeve radar is off the charts, off the charts, off the charts.

Yeah, we're like, brother.

We met two weeks ago.

Oh my god, I can't.

So, so who went home last night was

I can't, oh, Casey and Ellie.

Like there's, and you could really skip last night's episode.

It was like, and it was two hours.

I was shocked.

So I think that Valley's coming up.

I don't know who's going to win.

I feel like they're going to have this.

They're going to try and make it Olivia and Corey because for some reason people don't like Will and Kira.

Oh, Will and Kira had a date last night.

And everyone was like, are you going to ask her to be your girlfriend?

Are you going to ask her to be your girlfriend?

He was like, no.

And he didn't.

He's like, I'm not into labels.

Like, I want to see what happens on the outside before I ask her to be my girlfriend.

Which is so easy.

Cause I'm like, I'm falling for you.

It's just like,

like, being someone's girlfriend is not that big of a deal.

It's not like an engagement.

Yeah.

She was like really weird.

Kira was literally trying so hard to pretend like she wasn't upset about it, but all the girls were like, before the date, they were like, do you think?

Do you think?

Do you think?

And she was like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

And then when she left, Olivia was like, I actually just spoke to Will, and he said he's not going to ask her.

So they were like, eek.

Then when she came back, they were like tiptoeing around it.

And

she was like, no, it's fine.

Like, she's obviously upset, but like, she's just, she's just like a pick-me girl.

Like, she's like, they're the weirdest couple.

When Shannon and Josh, people don't like them.

When Shannon and Josh got back from their one-on-one and they panned to Will and Kira's faces, it was such sour grapes from them.

Like, they they can't win.

No, and now that Shannon and Josh are gone, like they think that it's the Will and Kira show.

Like they're trying so hard to be extra cute.

Like they don't know how to be cute.

I don't know who can win because here's the thing.

Olivia and Corey,

I don't think people like them.

I think people see through like the charade, excuse me.

And Will and Kira, for some reason, like, they've done nothing wrong.

Like, people just don't like them.

Extremely unlikable.

So honestly, when Arielle said America's couples have voted and the first person that came out of her mouth was Andre and Trina, this like random couple, he just chose her because he was going to choose Olivia and Olivia chose Corey and Corey chose Olivia and there was like two girls left and he just chose Trina, I guess, like he thought she was nice, like for no other reason.

But like I just want Trina's actually now that if you look at it like from a glance, like she's been through the most on this show and she's really held her head up high with dignity and she's a good friend and she was, I think she deserves to win, like not even with Andre.

I agree.

We should be able to vote for a solo player.

We should be able to vote for Shannon and Josh.

Because up until this point, they put the entire show on their back.

I agree.

I was thinking that too, but I don't think they'll do it.

I just think they should.

I think so too.

I think so too.

And the show has a visible difference without them.

Yeah.

Now, the other things I watched over the weekend was Love is Blind after the altar reunion.

Okay.

And it was so atrocious.

Like, you really don't need to watch it.

But it was funny just to like see everyone back in the saddle.

It's so scripted.

Like,

update is like Amber and Barnett are still engaged.

Amber literally.

I'm sorry, they're still married.

He sold his house to pay off, they made it seem like her student debts.

And now they're living in amber's apartment with their roommate but um lauren hamilton's husband cameron hamilton said on an instagram q a like the editing made it seem like it was for her her student loans but it was actually for his so i was like okay because i'm like what is this man doing they keep doing that to her they did that to her during the show and she spoke out about it like they did it again really wrong they did it again because Cameron was like, it was for his student loans.

But they just kind of have this miserable life where like she had a seizure.

She was diagnosed with epilepsy.

So she's really concerned about her health and she wants to have babies.

Barnett has like a checklist of things He wants to be out of this apartment He wants to make enough money He wants to have their own house before they start having kids So they're having dinner at their in-laws and she pulls

her mother-in-law Barnett's mom's mom aside and they're talking about this timeline How it's like really bothering her like she's ready and like he's not and like it's never gonna be perfect like we should just like start having kids and basically the mom was like you know he's the breadwinner and in the Bible, you know, he's in charge and being a woman sucks.

Like that's literally what she said to Amber.

And Amber didn't even like flinch.

It was the weirdest conversation.

So I do feel like at first I'm like, you know what?

This is such a weird couple that ended up being cute.

The more I got to know them, they're super toxic.

And she is so scary.

Like

she is, he, Amber's not, Barnett is not allowed to talk to Jessica.

I like her so much.

No, you won't like her after the special.

She's really toxic.

Like, but can I ask you something?

Don't these people, don't, aren't they famous?

Don't they get Instagram ads?

It makes no sense.

Amber has 1.5 million followers.

I looked at Barnett's Instagram.

He was doing a million ads.

Like, that shit pays.

There's no reason you should be living as a married couple in an apartment with a roommate.

Yeah.

And that, like you have to feel like your husband is the breadwinner like she can work no but like for the anniversary he like made this video like because um Cameron Hamilton made a speech for Lauren and it was a the whole premise of the show is that they're throwing a two-year anniversary party for the two couples that got married so Cameron made a speech for Lauren obviously they're literally the best couple on planet Earth and every all's good Perfect.

You could cry.

Like his speech, he was crying.

It was just stunning.

And everyone was like, we want what they have.

And then Barnett put together this little video of like how he goes to work every day.

He kisses Amber because she's still asleep.

And it was like supposed to be.

supposed to be a cute video, but I'm like, oh, she doesn't work.

Like, that's literally what I took away from the video.

I need to go see if she's

just their whole money thing.

Like, it just feels really toxic.

Like,

and Jessica, like, the show ruined her life.

Like, it did.

And she's like, literally, I was the most hated person on reality TV.

She moved to LA.

She has a boyfriend who's a surgeon.

He obviously did not come because she was not going to subject him to this toxic environment.

Why did she come?

She must have gotten paid, or she must have really wanted to clear the air because, like, she must not be this crazy person.

Maybe the show got her at a bad time.

She is still 34, and Mark is still 24.

I just wanted to update everyone on that.

Even though two years have passed, they're still 34 and 24.

Is that Ben?

Oh, my God, that's Ben.

What are you doing here?

Come in.

You can come in and sit.

We have to finish podcasting.

What a stalker.

Oh, my God.

Showing up to the studio.

Hi, we're in the middle of podcasting.

So, what was I saying before I was interrupted by my husband?

Oh, it's 12 o'clock.

That's the first thing.

Yeah, we've been the longest.

It's been the longest episode.

You were saying he's 24, she's 34.

Oh, yeah, so she came back on to clear her name.

And she brought Tiffany gifts for both of the couples and she was like avoiding Amber and Barnett the whole time because she was like afraid.

And then she goes up to Barnett to give to him.

She's like, I just want to say like, sorry for everything.

Like, I'm really happy for you guys.

He like literally could not speak.

He was like, oh, I'm sorry.

Like, I'm not allowed to talk to you.

Like, and ran away.

So Amber is definitely like very controlling.

Do you remember that girl, L C?

Yeah.

She like had an initial connection with Barnett, but he said he didn't want to choose her, just like he didn't want to choose Jessica.

Turns out she dated Mark.

I think I knew that.

And like, I'm like,

for six weeks, and then he got a girl pregnant, and he was dating like 11 other girls at the time.

So Amber's best friends with Mark.

And Amber's just like taking up for Mark, being mean to Elsie.

And it's just like showing like everyone who had a connection with Barnett, Amber is going to find a reason to hate.

Now, yes, what Jessica did was inappropriate, but like they were on a TV show.

It was two years ago.

Like, can we move past it?

She apologized at the reunion.

Amber got her say.

Amber had her moment.

Like, you're so disingenuous,

like, she had her moment.

She won't let it go.

And it's just like, I actually, she started crying like after Barnett like walked away from her and like really embarrassed her.

She just started crying there with her Tiffany bag of gifts and like didn't have, I just, I did feel bad for her.

Then the whole drama with Giannina, she's like, what's going on?

Damien's her person.

Like Giannina's so cringy, like when she talks, like she's crying like in lunch.

Like, he's my person.

Her mom refers to him as her son.

I'm like, oh my God, they're so going strong.

They've been together for two years.

They got through him leaving her at the altar.

So apparently, when he was in LA, he went to dinner with like a bunch of influencers, left a restaurant holding hands with Francesca Farago.

They said they're just friends, but like, why are we holding hands?

Like, it was.

We saw those pictures.

Yes.

We reported on them because we thought it was weird.

Then

she's in Atlanta for a photo shoot the same weekend of this party, and he invited her because he was telling us and like that he wanted to invite her because she's a friend.

Like, why wouldn't his friend come?

And, you know, he wanted to clear the air between her and Giannina.

He kind of made it seem like to Francesca like they had a future.

And he didn't tell her what to wear to the party because she showed up in a crop shop.

Francesca want a future with him.

He's so beta.

Like I couldn't figure out.

I'm like, he's handsome, whatever.

What's wrong?

He drives the porch.

He's the definition of a beta fucking loser.

Like, I could not stand him.

Francesca's, like, on top of the world.

No, no.

She was obviously paid to do the show.

Like, it was so scripted.

I don't think she's like sitting home waiting for Damien to call.

No.

Literally, it was so stupid.

And then, like, Giannina was totally blindsided.

She's like, why is this girl who like caused a huge problem in our relationship being invited?

And he was like.

Walking around the party with her, like, didn't even, like, if Gianina ever gets back with him, she has literally no self-respect.

It was so disrespectful, but it was also staged.

Like, I don't know what to believe.

Like, right.

It was good.

That's what I'm saying.

It was like not a real reunion.

It was like a waste of your time, but it was funny to like to see everyone back together, especially like the people, like that girl.

Um, honestly, I can't remember any of their names, like the besides, oh, but Diamond.

She was the star of the entire show.

She was just giving the best commentary.

She's friends with a lot of the people.

Um, Carlton did not show up, the guy who left her after she just expressed a little frustration that he didn't tell her he was by after getting engaged to her.

So, like, it was just misleading.

She wasn't mad that he was bi.

She was mad that he lied.

And

he was going to go to the reunion and had a conversation with Lauren Hamilton and blew up at her and then just decided not to participate in the special anymore.

It was really weird.

And I felt bad for Lauren because Lauren was like there as a friend.

Lauren could understand what he was going through.

He was talking about like a lot of biphobia in their community.

And then he just like attacked Lauren and Lauren was like, don't degrade me like, because you're upset.

Like, and then he just disappeared.

So he never got to say his piece.

And honestly, he might have made himself look worse than before.

Right.

And maybe if he came, he'd make himself look even worse yeah he should yeah he should have never just agreed to participate because i had forgotten about him you know right right um

and so that's all i also watched obx but i want you to watch it so we can talk about it in depth is it pertinent that i watch it it's really good like oh wow because the last episode is the longest episode and it just like is so stupid like i can't that's exciting um it's really good though like i think you'll enjoy it so i just watched so much tv this weekend and i really enjoyed it now i feel like i'm really fully caught up on everything i'm so happy for you and like you're back to being whelmed yeah you know because you were overwhelmed with the Olympics and now you're just back on track.

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