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Good

morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Thursday.

Hope everyone's having an amazing day.

I am so excited to be joined by a highly requested co-host.

She's very busy as Michaela's mom, but she made the time to come down down and sit with me.

And for that, I'm grateful.

So please welcome to the show Michaela's mom, also known sometimes as Olivia, my sister.

Hi, Olivia, everybody.

Oh, you can move your microphone closer to you.

Adjust, feel comfortable.

I mean, honestly, you and Jackie look so great every day.

I literally could barely sleep last night thinking about like what I was going to wear, what I was going to do, what was going to look flattering on camera.

And then ultimately, I just decided like I was just going to embrace me, do me a lace blouse with leggings and some sandals.

Like, who am I fucking kidding?

Nobody.

Just

talk into the mic.

Like, you can bring it towards you.

Bring it towards you.

I know, but I'm such a monster.

I feel like it's going to, oh, that's true.

That whole thing's going to fall over.

That's true.

Well, thank you so much for being here.

I know that being Michaela's mom is perhaps the most time-consuming job on the planet.

Surely.

And for you to just come and sit with me for 60 minutes while Michaela is not too far away, just like yearning for you, not to make you sad, but I really appreciate it.

No, it's actually really good because now it's around her morning nap time.

So it's like perfect timing, 10.30 a.m.

Eastern, obviously, as per usual.

But I would say that nothing gives me greater joy than to just sit here and have a conversation with you because we actually do it four million times a day via FaceTime.

And when I was thinking about the fact that I know absolutely nothing going on in the world, don't really know like your hot takes on things that are happening.

But then again, I don't really need to because then I just pick up the phone and call you and I always ask you what you think about things.

So it sounds like you're saying you don't listen to the morning toast.

I listen to like pockets and people and things here and there.

Which of the episodes this week have you listened to?

The guests.

I tuned in for the episode with Not Skinny But Not Fat in the beginning because I, of course, live under a rock and had no idea there was a rumor you were pregnant.

So that was really exciting for me to find out.

It was a TikTok rumor, but don't worry, they've been debunked.

Now people think I have a choking fetish because on my Instagram stories this morning, my neck, I have like so much buildup in my like neck wrinkles of like spray tan and I'm actually spray tanning tomorrow so I have to exfoliate today.

So if you you could see it's just like I have like a little you see these lines yeah but like who cares?

People are like are those choking bruises I'm like girl no

what is wrong no and it's like

and if you think that these are choking bruises like you're exposing yourself because like what the hell is that even like I didn't know 100% yeah that would absolutely never come to mind for me no never it's obviously spray tan or like dirt yeah it's a combination of things I didn't shower yesterday anyway so I did that and then I saw a lot of videos of Tyler Cameron petting Theo and I just felt like I didn't need to watch it because like the videos were so conclusive.

But I would say that being a guest after tyler cameron is like is a it's a big burden to bear but i do have to say yes was the response to tyler cameron overwhelming and so appreciated yes you are such a highly requested guest co-host the toasters love you and if you're a mom and you want to hear live talk a little bit more about her journey i think last year we did a big patreon podcast episode with you about your birth story which was kind of traumatizing we won't get into it and then most recently we did an update like michael is one years old how's life as a mom getting back to work in a pandemic will you stay in the city things like that so So, there's two podcasts on our Patreon channel if you're looking.

And me and Jackie uploaded a podcast yesterday that was so funny.

We read our podcast reviews.

By the way, I'm actually dying to listen to that because I cannot wait.

You are brave as hell.

So, honestly, Jackie was more brave because it's a really good idea for a segment, but you know, like I take everything so personally.

So, she was the one who went and found the reviews that we were going to read out loud.

Like, she was, I couldn't, I can't go down that.

You can, like, yeah, I 100% understand that.

I mean, Jackie is extremely brave, so she's so strong.

strong.

But, you know, at the end of the day, it builds character.

It builds

skin, you know?

I have enough character for like 11 people.

According to the podcast review, some people say I'm annoying, rude.

So that podcast is up.

That's our third episode of the month.

And it was really funny.

I kill it on Patreon.

I did my home tour.

No, we love Patreon.

It's creating our family and their personal lives for the Patreon because that's what they're paying for and they deserve it.

So thank you for letting us into your home and into your

happily.

I love it because it's such a wonderful community.

It is.

And it's just like fosters such like great funny vibes, you know?

And I just feel like I bring out my best self on the Patreon.

And like the last episode we did me and you

was so funny.

I was like kind of a little drunk.

Like I only had one glass of wine, but you know, it just like affects me differently.

And when they record podcasts at my house, they make me turn off the air conditioning for the sound in the background and like I cannot function.

So I was like sweating and semi-drunk, could barely get two words out, but like really excited to be there.

It was kind of a fucking cluster.

No, but it was really good and the people loved it.

So head over to patreon.com slash morning toast to check it out, keep up with live, and also check out the podcast reviews.

So today we have a great show.

I know you, you know, it's so crazy to me because we actually do have a lot of housewives stories.

And I know that you're familiar with the housewives, but you don't really watch anymore, which is so crazy just because like my personal life experience was I only knew what the housewives were because when you lived in 777 6th Avenue, you were always watching it in your corner bedroom.

And I was like, what is this?

And I literally got into house size because of you.

I actually used to watch it at the apartment before that, 66 Madison.

Oh.

And I, it was so crazy because it must have been like 2011, 2012.

And I was like upset.

This was like really before social media took off and like you were able to really kind of understand in the moment how things were.

But I was like craving.

You used to read their blogs.

I was the biggest Bravo blog reader.

All their traffic came from me.

Bravo TV.

I was obsessed.

i read every single person's blog i was really deep in it but i just found it to be very overwhelming at a point where one basically the daily mail does a recap of every episode with like images and what happened and you don't necessarily have to waste an hour of your fucking week for one episode so if there's like three seasons on at a time that's three hours when you can read a five-minute article i feel like i'm abreast of what's going on in the housewives world without ever watching the only season i watched was salt lake because one you told me to you're like i think you would really like it and it's easy to start fresh on a new season exactly and i also wanted to like give it a fair chance there hasn't been a new housewife season in such a long time i mean like i'm talking like i watched real housewise of miami i watched the live reunion in the clubhouse like i don't even think people even remember that they did that it was the biggest shit show of all time they do remember it because we talk about it once a week here on the morning shows it was unbelievable yeah and so yeah i probably will keep up with salt lake i'm actually finding that you know i need shapiro and i watch so much TV together.

And like, if there is a night that he goes out to dinner or has plans, I'm like, what the hell do I watch?

Because I can't watch the things that we watch together without him without re-watching it, which I find really annoying.

Can I recommend something to you?

Absolutely.

I actually think you'd really love The Real House Size of Potomac, and it's very easy to get into because I think they're only on their fifth, maybe sixth season.

Okay, I am into it.

Whereas like, you know, you have 14 seasons of OC and it's so premium.

And like, I actually think Zach would really like it because there's so many outrageous moments.

That's not even really about the drama.

They're just like, they're really like a a bunch of like silly, goofy girls.

Okay.

Thank you for the recommendation.

It's really, and then you'll be caught up now because the season's on.

And it's like, it is consistently one of the best franchises in Housewives.

Amazing.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm super here for that.

Also, I think most people know, like, I actually, I like like scripted dramas of sorts.

I kind of just moved away from reality TV.

Yes.

I don't really like it that much anymore because I think that I

kind of just like see through it, like the production of it all.

I think the only people that ever really did it super, super well were obviously the Kardashians.

And I think over time, they opened up more and more and more of their lives.

But also, then, you know, Chris Jenner is the producer, and things are quasi as they appear to be.

So, at the end of the day, thank you for the recommendation.

And I'm excited to hear what the housewives' stories are because I really don't know how I can contribute, but I'm excited to bring my non-housewife perspective to the table.

You are familiar with all the housewives I'm referring to, and I'm here to give you all the information that you need to know.

Can't wait.

I love a lesson.

So, I think I'm ready to dive in.

How are you feeling?

Strong?

I'm feeling stronger than ever.

Okay, good.

Stronger.

Then yes.

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Okay, so I'm going to start with obviously the biggest news in my world yesterday, which was the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was on.

And every week, you know what's going on, right?

Like with Erica.

Of course.

I did watch Housewive and the Hustler.

Oh, okay.

So literally every week on Real Housewives, of course, this is like the center storyline.

And we're learning more and more from Erica because what we know now, we only know from the tabloids and we don't know what's true, we don't know what's not true.

And we're hearing it straight from Erica's mouth.

And honestly, she's she's being really open i don't know if everyone believes her but she's not not filming she's showing up at every she went to palm springs she was in the court in the morning palm springs at night with the girls like she's really stepping it up like okay opening up which i have respect for because that's hard when housewives go through things like that they usually stop filming yeah but she also needs the money if i was going through something like that i would hide in my house and never come out but she also is completely financially independent now and she does need the money from the show so Right.

So she dropped a couple bombshells in the episode last night.

I'm not going to lie.

It was like a little difficult to to follow.

She was being like a little confusing with her story about like him in the car.

But one of the bombshells was that Erica Jane claims sloppy Tom Girardi didn't deny cheating on her.

Erica Jane accused her now estranged husband of cheating on her and not denying it on Wednesday's episode of Beverly Hills.

Erica Jane told her castmates over dinner at Kyle Richards' home that she never went through Tom Girardi's phone or his belongings during their marriage until her friend Yolanda Hadid split from David Foster in 2015.

Erica said, after Yolanda divorced David, I just opened that phone and I was like, wow, okay.

She alleged that she found evidence of a years-long affair

that the now-disgraced lawyer was having in the form of text messages and pictures.

Erica said, I knew a lot because it was so hard to hide and you know, he was sloppy.

She went on to claim that Tom did not deny being unfaithful to her during the two-decade marriage.

And so that was really interesting, but then she also went on this weird storytelling journey about, because, you know, they're claiming, and I know you know this from Housewife and the Hustler, that he's not mentally fit to, physically or mentally fit to stand trial.

And Erica is kind of corroborating that.

She's basically saying, and she said this for a few weeks on the show now, that he's like deteriorating in front of her, his mental health, his physical health.

And a couple seasons ago, Tom got into a car accident and broke his ankle.

And Erica now is telling us that it was so much more than that.

Like he didn't just break his ankle.

He like drove off a cliff.

And she's trying to explain there's this ravine behind her house.

And the car went down the cliff and he was out of the car, but he got thrown from the car.

And all the ladies are like confused because she was not being clear about what actually happened.

But but him cheating on her is it's it's kind of crazy and her saying that she had known about it for years because after their divorce came out all these stories were like he had a girlfriend the judge even though he's 97 years old as judge yeah okay but now erica's corroborating i have a million things to say about this just based on what you're reading so let's like pair it back one is erica jane shading david foster i don't know is she implying that david foster cheated on her which got her to then think like i need to look into my own because i i will never, like, put out rumors about anybody, period.

But, like, we've always been justice for David Foster.

So, like, no, but I'm irked by that.

That's actually a really good point because, as far as we know, it was the Lyme's disease and that whole journey that really tore them apart.

100%.

She was being like, you know, paranoid and he wasn't being supportive.

So

that's actually a very good point.

Right.

So that makes me think one.

And then, two, the thing about the sloppiness that I don't think I agree with is.

Do you mean agree with or believe?

No, no, no.

The thing about the sloppiness that I don't believe.

Yeah.

Here you have a lawyer who has been shysting people for 40 years plus that nobody knew about.

Meanwhile, he doesn't know how to hide his dick in his pants.

Like, I'm sorry, what?

Yeah, but you know what?

You also have to remember he is like in his late, late 80s or whatever, and he's trying to like keep secret text messages.

I'm sure the man can barely figure out how to pick up the phone.

I know, but he was also keeping like secret bank accounts and money from people, but he figured out how to do that on his phone, but not the messages from the judge.

Actually, you know what?

What I took away from the housewife and the hustler was like, people have known about this shistiness for years, and he actually wasn't that organized with his fair philandering.

Like, all these families were confused.

No one knew about it, but they did.

So, it's like, I actually don't think he was that much of a criminal mastermind because, one, he got caught.

And two, people, some of the stories they were talking about, people were on Tim since like 2011, 2013.

People were just indebted to him for so long that they let him get away with it.

Yes, but then at the same time, all those voicemails is like he was leaving physical proof, like sounding like such a nice guy it's literally so confusing and i'm sure you talked about the housewife and the hustler the only thing i will say is like the thing that makes this storyline so confusing other than the fact that it's so hard to follow and also so mind-blowing is like when you have danielle staub and dana wilkie as your commentators like we said that's where you just lose me like what we said the same and it's abc produced like you really couldn't find anybody else no like sonny haustin who's like a legal analyst

should not be in the same documentary as dana wilkie 100%.

And I thought Sonny's perspective was fabulous.

No, and she really broke down like the legal jargon for us in layman's terms.

Me and Jackie, when we recapped the documentary, we had a lot of positives to say about it.

But we also said the second I saw Danielle Staub sit down in that chair, I was like, this is a joke.

You know, Danielle Staub almost is okay if they worked at that same club.

Right.

Maybe Danielle had a perspective on her from 20 plus years ago.

Dana Wilkie and her $25,000 glasses.

You're kidding me.

But Olivia, her and Danielle Staub didn't even work at the same

club at the same time.

Like they just, two ships passing in the night.

Right.

But they might have overlapped with people that worked together and she might have heard.

Right, right, right, right, right.

You know, like, whatever.

But I don't know.

I'm really, like, struggling because

there's so much uncertainty with the situation.

And honestly, last week, she had a breakdown on the air.

I mean, not on the air.

On the episode, she went hiking with Kyle and she just absolutely broke down.

Her

entire face was covered in black mascara, black eyeliner.

It was a crazy.

Yeah.

yeah right you know what i mean like it's sad but i'm so confused no but then actually this is just another really quick story camille grammer shaded erica jane's crying on real housewives at beverly hills because a lot of people were like they were real tears 100 but like her mascara was running everywhere it seems like kind of like deliberate you know yeah so like she didn't wear waterproof you know right and there's actually proof of her doing like youtube tutorials where she says she always wears waterproof mascara first of all and second of all Camille Grammer, who's like so irrelevant, I hate to even like give her credibility.

She did tweet something really interesting about Erica like crying with all of the black mascara running down her face.

Um, she basically said, hold on, let me find the tweet verbatim.

Um, where's the tweet?

Can I say something about Camille while you find the tweet?

Oh, I found it.

She, because they went to the Bahamas in season nine, she wrote with a picture of Erica with the black mascara.

We filmed in the Bahamas season nine, and we were all swimming in the water.

I don't remember, remember seeing Erica's mascara run after swimming underwater, just saying.

So, a lot of people thought the mascara was a ploy.

Oh, interesting.

I mean,

it very very well could be i've worn like the same mascara for like ever and sometimes when i work out it runs and sometimes when i cry it does and doesn't like it's not consistent so i don't know her situation but the thing i will say about camille grammar is that if all else fails for camille like she should really become an sat tutor because she taught us so many big words pernicious pernicious totally she's actually a very eloquent well-spoken woman like she just has a vocabulary that's so expansive it just blows my mind no literally.

I always think about that.

Pernicious.

Pernicious.

No, it's what does that even mean?

And she was like responsible for calling her the morally corrupt Faye Resnick.

No,

yes, yes, that was.

That was.

And she had Allison Dubois at her home.

So you watched Housewives back then, right?

Yes, I did.

I actually recently went on a spiral.

Like, where is Allison Dubois now?

Oh, it's a thing.

Yeah, her Instagram's popping.

She's very much like still smoking electric cigarettes and beating up people.

She's like,

yeah, giving people their fortunes.

Oh, my God.

Good times.

Okay, well, we're wishing the best for Erica.

I don't know.

We're just confused and we want more information.

We want facts.

And honestly, like mistakes were made here.

The intent was definitely shady and just come the F clean because like this isn't going away.

Here's the question.

Me and Jackie haven't landed yet, but do you think Erica knew?

I don't know either, but I.

She's really smart.

I can literally make the case for both sides.

Yes, of course he's not sharing his financial information with her.

Like there is a power dynamic when you are an older, wealthier man with, like, marrying a cocktail waitress, for sure.

But Erica's a smart fucking bitch.

Oh, I know.

So, how do you not know that all these things?

Like, I don't know.

I really, I'm so torn.

I know.

It's very, very confusing.

And honestly, I don't think we'll ever know.

I think at the end of the season, people are expecting like closure.

No, there won't be.

I don't think this was ever.

It was filmed a while ago.

Like, all of this stuff was filmed probably in tandem with or even before

it's Christmas.

Yeah.

In Beverly Hills right now.

Got it.

Got it.

Got it.

All right, next up.

In some relatable news, Megan Fox stopped drinking after belligerent comments at the 2009 Golden Globes.

Megan Fox claims she put down the bubbly after having a bit too much at the 2009 Golden Globes, leading to her to make, quote, belligerent comments throughout the carpet.

The actress, 35, said she went through multiple glasses of Moe at the notoriously boozy event, where she says she was seated with Blake Lively and all three Jonas brothers.

That sounds like a great table.

This is what she said.

Now I don't drink, and this is why.

I was belligerent, and I said a bunch of shit I shouldn't have said on the red carpet after that.

I think I got in a lot of trouble for whatever I said on the carpet at this event.

I don't remember why, but I know I did.

You can look that up.

So, of course, page six looked it up.

So, on the red carpet, Megan spoke to Juliana Rancic about feeling insecure and pointed to Salma Hayek and was like, I really want her boobs.

And then Rancic called Megan Fox one of the hottest women in the business right now.

Megan Fox made a joke that she's, quote, a doppelganger for Alan Alda before adding, I'm a man.

Oh, my God.

So, she went on to declare how painfully insecure she was, adding, I'm on the verge of vomiting right now.

I'm so horrified that I'm here.

I need to watch this interview with

Juliana.

Juliana.

Then Juliana asked if her then-boyfriend Brian Austin Green was there.

And Megan Fox told Juliana, quote, he doesn't want to be my date.

He's a man.

He has an ego.

I think he's probably working on music.

I don't think he cares about watching the show.

Oh, dear God.

Did Brian Austin Green ever even come out with music?

That's

older.

Well, honestly, like, can you imagine the pitch she had?

I sometimes wake up with the biggest anxiety, and I'm definitely overthinking about like something weird I did the night before.

Yeah.

But on a red carpet, like, thank God I'm not famous.

Like 100%.

100%.

Wait, I have so many things to say about this.

Do we know how old

Megan Fox is?

35.

So oh my god, she's so young.

She's young, but also this was 2009.

If I put my math brain on, 11 years ago.

At least.

So she's 24.

Like, I just think in general.

She's probably nervous too.

Yeah, we put these young girls.

She was even like more of a child actor, just, you know, with her iconic role.

Confessions of a teenage drama queen.

And what was the the one with the old?

I get what I want.

Thanks.

And this winter break, I want Jordan, Holiday in the Sun filmed at the Atlantis.

Holiday in Bahamas.

Yes.

If you, as a child, didn't go to Atlantis Bahamas and like die that they filmed that Holiday in the Sun, does everyone know what I'm talking about?

Like that, we went to Atlantis and we thought we were married, Kate and Ashley.

Yeah, but it's just like she's thrown into this situation so young.

By the time she's 24, of course she's drinking to cope with the years of residual anxiety and pressure.

And

I mean, I just feel like kudos to her for like sustaining in the business for another 11 years and like, you know, being in a place where she's comfortable now sharing.

I'm sure that sustainability has a lot to do with her not drinking.

A million percent.

No, I actually really like that.

Drinking is really an easier, can be like, I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but like that's the way that some people cope, right?

Of course.

So I think then removing that, you really have to like bring your full self all times.

Right, no, but then you're also celebrating.

So it's like she's on the Golden Globes.

She's 24.

Like she wants to celebrate.

100%.

So it's really like a very toxic, 100% environment for like a young person who might be like insecure or new to the business a million percent But she looks fabulous at this event She doesn't look drunk.

I mean she looks like she's living her best life if I may say so myself Do you stand her and Machine Gun Kelly?

Because I do.

I mean I do because I don't like know enough about either of them and their lives.

I know obviously she was married to like Brian Austin Green and it seems like they were like on and off and it was Rocky for a while.

I know nothing about Machine Gun Kelly's like personal life, but they really

seem so happy together.

Like they are thriving in kind of the, you know, Courtney Kardashian, Travis Parker of it all.

Like these people seem really happy to be together.

So like thus I'm super happy for them.

Yeah, no.

And it's also really great when like two people

get together.

And I think Machine Gunn Kelly has one daughter and she obviously has kids with Brian Austin Green.

And I think she was in like such a bad place with Brian Austin.

Like they were so tumultuous like constantly like with their Instagram drama.

Like it was really messy.

Yeah, I'm not into the mess.

I'm not into that either.

But now she seems to be like in such a better place.

And honestly, Brian Austin green is too we just reported he's dating sharna burgess yes i saw from dancing with the stars yes i saw so you just like some people are just not meant to be together forever no totally and i think some people like hang on to like every waking thread because they think they're supposed to or it's going to be like too difficult if they leave and like what it's going to be like but like once you free yourself of the shackles of your unhappiness that's like that movie do you ever see marriage story

Remind me who's in it and Scarlett Johansen and Adam Driver Netflix movie about divorce.

I don't think I watch it because I think somebody told me it was like depressing and unnecessary.

to like.

So depressing.

I'm not into that.

I'm into happy vibes.

But it's all about how you go from like just being in a happy place with someone to when you're in the process of getting divorced, like literally despising this person.

Like you would actually kill them when you once like used to love this person.

And it's like Scarlett Johansen, he was so mean to her.

And then she finds herself in a great place.

At the end of the movie, she's got like a great thing with her career and she found a man.

And so it's like literally, it's that.

Like the juxtaposition of being so unhappy and then being happy is just so wonderful.

Yeah, it is.

It's very wonderful, but it's a fucking journey, man.

Divorce or life?

Life of being like going from a place of happiness to unhappiness.

Happiness.

That's not.

I can't be happy, happy.

Yeah, no, I'm just saying.

Happy and sad at the same time.

One of the main themes from our episode yesterday where people were, we were reading podcast reviews was people asked us to stop singing, and I'm just going to say, no,

no,

like you sing literally

60

minutes of a song.

Please, it's a 60-minute episode.

Like, just skip it if you don't like it.

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Kelly Kapowski reference, I feel like, is very interesting for you.

Like, where did that come from?

I don't know.

I'm just like, I'm not like other girls, Olivia.

And it's about time you learned that.

Use me.

It's about time you learned that.

All right, next up.

And a couple news I didn't see coming, but I actually really think could work.

Oh, what happened to my page six?

Hello, sir.

Okay.

Irina Shake and Jason Sudakis share laughs and hugs after dinner in New York City.

Funny man Jason Sudeikis and model Irena Shake were spotted at a celebratory dinner at the Hunt and Fish Club, your favorite restaurant, Olivia, in Midtown on Tuesday, and they even shared a friendly hug as they exited the posh eatery.

The Ted Lasso star joined the model and about a dozen others for a steakhouse fete thrown by British Vogue editor-in-chief Edward Enful.

Sources told page six.

Sudeikis was seen in a cheery mood and we've learned he is single and no longer

casually dating Keely Hazel.

He says he was never really serious with that British model, but she also appeared in his show Ted Lasso.

And now it's just got me thinking like, hmm.

I do believe this was a friendly encounter.

They're just like saying bye to each other outside a restaurant, but I don't know the way she's smiling at him.

I feel like these two have been in the news a lot recently.

Obviously, they say she's dating Kanye.

No clue if that's like still

happening.

He seems very busy.

Yeah.

And she, I mean, he has obviously lost the war between

Olivia Wilde because she's like out on boats making out with Harry Styles.

So I just think he needs a win.

And I think Irina Shade could be it.

I mean, she's stunning.

Can I just say something?

The only thing that I care about with respect to the story is that they were at the Hunt and Fish Club.

Such a good restaurant.

Why don't you tell everybody what happened to you there?

What happened?

I fell.

We fell down the stairs when you were meeting with somebody else.

okay i honestly

i honestly could have you had a bruise i could have sued the hunting fish club for what they did i can't believe they're still open i'm like actually happy to hear that you should go with zach for like a date night definitely it's a gorgeous restaurant i met someone there i walked to the restaurant and i realized i was like 10 minutes early or something so i'm like i'll just wait outside And so, you know, in New York, when it's cold outside, they have like doors outside the doors that you're like, they're supposed to capture the wind or something.

So, I go outside, I'm inside the restaurant, I open the main door, and I'm in this little vestibule.

Then I open the fake door,

and you would assume like when you take a step out of the fake door, you step onto the concrete.

But I didn't realize that this fake door was elevated like two feet in the air, and it has like three steps down, but they're like so steep.

Like, yeah, I literally just took one step out this vestibule thinking I was gonna walk on flat land, not realizing I was in the air, and I went flying.

I was so embarrassed, embarrassed and I had so much like physical pain.

And it's in Times Square, like near Times Square.

So there was a thousand people.

Like everyone's like, oh my God, are you okay?

I'm like, get the fuck away from me.

I'm fine.

But I was not fine.

And honestly, I had to then go sit through like a meeting for an hour with like this bruised hip.

And I did say something.

I'm like, you guys should have a sign or something because this is a

hazard.

And now I'm thinking, I don't know, this is a fancy restaurant.

They're throwing vogue parties there.

Like, I could have had a case.

I mean, I had totally forgotten about that.

Oh, my God.

It's actually when I think Hunt and Fish Club, like the first thing I think, other than the fact that

they, we also, oh, Hunt and Fish Club, we saw, okay, we had one of my birthday dinners there,

and they had just finished filming Real Housewives of New York.

Reunion.

Reunion.

And they all came there together after.

It was like the highlight of my life.

Yeah, that was crazy.

It's a fact, you know, I just haven't heard about that restaurant in so long.

Totally.

It was a great dinner.

100%.

I'm super down.

But back at the story at hand, Irena Shake, Jason Sadekis, could be dating, could have just run into each other.

This could be the start of something new it feels so right to be here with you and now looking in your eyes

i just think this is something um i'd be happy for them if it is something then i would just be really curious as to what's going on with kanye yeah um but you know if people are they're both like in similar places having like left long-term relationships marriages kids kids the whole nine so it seems like a likely pairing um and if they're happy again you know you know my mantra if you're happy i'm happy yeah no, I actually just think this could be a good pairing.

I agree.

They give me similar vibes.

I don't know.

Like when I read this headline, I was like, oh, yeah, they're dating, but they're not.

They've never even been linked.

So I just think it's cute.

Cute.

Happy.

Into it.

All right, a little bit more housewives news because Jill Zarin is having some legal woes.

She is in a hideously unglamorous court battle over a Midwestern right aid.

Stop.

Yeah, bear with me.

Being one of New York City's ladies who lunch isn't all champagne at the plaza, tea sandwiches, and calling Lee Radzwell a bitch.

Sometimes, apparently, it involves going 15 long and bloody rounds over a rite-aid in something called Canton, Ohio.

Page six has learned that racehorse-owning, Hampton-summering, upholstery doyen Jill Zarin is locked in a knockdown drag out battle over a fabulously appointed yet tastefully restrained strip ball pharmacy with sweeping views that take in Wendy's, Arby's, okay, this person like is making too many jokes.

Literally, just

this isn't like, you know, funny or die.

It's fucking page six.

Just give me that.

Okay, here's what happens.

It seems that as well as leaving her.

Oh my God, this person doesn't stop making jokes.

It seems that as well as leaving her, one imagines swaths of diamonds and strings of pearls.

Oh my God, stop.

Jill's late husband, Bobby, bought her more than one right aid store.

We're told Bobby forked over $650,000 for the location in question, but he bought her a few, which is like such a generous like...

Thing like you do want to take care of your wife like you buy her business not just like diamonds But according to court papers a 1.7 million dollar loan on the Canton drugstore came due right at the beginning of the pandemic.

Court papers claim that due to a bungling property manager, nobody mentioned this to Jill.

And so the leader, Central State Credit Union, took over the right aid and has since been collecting the rent.

Now she says she's not being given the opportunity to pay off the debt and take back her beloved right aid.

So the former real housewife, a New York star is now entrenched in a deliriously unglamorous fight to get Benadryl and Ritzcracker's boutique back in her name.

Oh my God, this article is really bothering me.

She complained in an affidavit that page six got, I have been caused to expend thousands of dollars on counsel to resolve what should have been a routine matter.

Jill declined to comment and lawyers for the credit union and court-appointed receiver did not get back to them.

This just sucks because this was supposed to be like a nice gift from her husband and now it's like a troublesome journey.

I mean, two things are, I have two thoughts on this.

One,

kind of confused that she wasn't given some grace, like it seems like everybody else on the planet was with respect to the pandemic and like loans.

Yeah.

And like most people aren't even back in court and people are doing zoom court and all these things so like that just seems fishy as hell no it just seems honestly really uncomfortable but i have a solution okay right aid needs to partner with shop jill and allie carry all their masks and all their stuff and it'll be a beautiful happy relationship you know it's so funny i actually thought when i first read this headline it had something to do with like them carrying shop jill and allie masks or phone charms or something um But she doesn't own the right aid.

She owns the property.

Ooh, interesting.

And Rite Aid rents it from her, and she's not able to collect the rent anymore because the credit union took over because she was late on her loan.

Why didn't you write the story of her patients?

You know, this guy made it so fucking confusing.

Oh, my God.

She basically is just like, Give me my business back.

They took it from her because she did not pay her loan.

And she said that the property manager, who has now been fired, never told her that the payment was due.

Right.

So they just took it and now she's like, Let me just pay it.

Right.

And get back to business.

Oh, my God.

Insanity.

Some people just really make more work.

It's unbelievable.

I feel like Canton, Ohio is actually like a place known for something.

Like something's there, a hall Hall of Fame or something.

Okay, does Dave Chappelle live there?

Ooh,

he lives in Ohio, but I think it's called like Yellow Springs or something.

Yes, Spring something.

You're right that Canton, Ohio is not a random whatever this article called it.

No, I've heard of it.

There's a big something there.

Rock and roll Hall of Fame.

Professor.

Pro football.

Yes, I would know that because from you're married to a football player.

Yeah, and like with all the Super Bowl and games, it's like Canton, Ohio.

Hall of Fame.

The final story is about a couple who I just am enamored with.

And I know that you are too, so I'm really glad because like whenever I talk about it with Jackie, she does not care.

Okay.

But I'm talking about the El Musas.

And their web.

It's like six degrees of Christina Almusa.

They're so quick.

But she has a new last name now.

Hack.

Yeah.

Whose name is that?

Because she was married to Aunt Anstead, who we previously reported on Monday, that is dating Renee Zellweger, which is the weirdest thing about all of them.

That's her maiden maiden name from pre-Tariq.

Because she went from Christina Almusa to Christina Anstead.

When I was reading the article on Monday about Aunt Anstead, they referred to her as Christina Anstead.

Yeah, it's so now she's Christina Hack.

She has a new boyfriend, but she's not married.

So is that her maiden name?

It might be, but I would

I would also say she's the type of person that if she wants to get a job somewhere and they do a background check, it would not be a majority.

You not know who it is.

She's got a million names.

One million names, yeah.

She's literally the seven husbands of Tarek Elmusa of Christina Almusa.

So, and then you know, Tarek, there was that weird, okay, and I always talk about it.

That's like one of my things, like Dennis Dennis's funeral.

I always talk about Tarek Almusa because he's like living his best life now he's dating heather rae young they're engaged from selling sunset they're in every magazine they're always blowing up on tick tock he's like so great but people forget that he had that incident you know what i'm talking about with the gun i don't know about the gun but i when i actually think about him like for some reason like just like anger and yes craziness comes to mind they had like a lot of big blowouts that like feels like domestic disturbance level they had another one yesterday on set of their show okay so that's what i'm saying why and how why who what when where why is Heather Ray Young putting up with this?

I don't know.

Like, just, can he control himself around her?

But there's something about Christina that really sets him off?

It's actually very possible because he's always like bursting out poor Christina for having to deal with this lunatic.

Okay.

So here's the story.

Something is up there.

Tarek El Musa flipped out at Christina Hack on the set of Flip or Flop last Wednesday, people can confirm.

El Musa reportedly lashed out at his ex-wife and co-host after he didn't like the way she signaled to him that she and the crew were ready to film the next segment.

El Musa went on a verbal tirade against against Hack, whom he shares a daughter Taylor and son Brayden 5 with.

He was comparing her to his fiancé selling sunset star Heather Ray Young and saying that he enjoys watching her fail.

The hell?

Enjoys watching Heather Ray Young fail or Tariq or Christina Amusa.

It must be Christina because she just got married and then she got a divorce so that's probably deemed a failure in his no, I know but he this article says comparing Christina to his fiancé selling sunset star Heather Ray Young and saying that he enjoys watching her fail.

Okay, whatever.

That's weird.

This is what he said.

This is page six again with the board of race.

Yahoo.

Don't even get me started.

This is what he said.

Look at me.

Look at me.

Look at me.

It's called winning.

El Musa reportedly yelled at Hack, exclaiming that he, quote, made her.

and referred to her as a washed up loser.

The pair were married from 2009 to 2018, and they both found fame with the launch of their series, Flipper Flop, on HGTV in 2013.

They also both now have the solo shows on the network.

Hacks is called Christina on the Coast, and Tariq's is called Flipping 101.

They filmed nine seasons of Flip or Flop together and are currently working on season 10.

And the show follows the divorce duo as they navigate life as co-parents and real estate experts, flipping rundown homes in California for a profit.

A rep for Hack did not immediately respond to a request for comment and HGTV had no comment.

Okay, so I just want to say, this is horrible.

He sounds so crazy.

Like, and I don't think it's like, you're not able to like be a nutjob to one person and civil to another.

Like, I do really feel bad for Heather.

I think she probably gets the brunt of his anger as well, but Christina's like the punching bag for sure.

And if you know about that incident with the gun when he ran in the mountains and the police had to come, like this is not a surprise.

It's not a surprise.

But if you see him on Selling Sunset and he's like, oh, Heather's fiancé is so cute, bing ring, they love to make cupcakes.

Then you're like, what?

I've never watched Selling Sunset, to be honest with you, but let me tell you.

Olivia, that's what you should watch.

It's good.

It's so good.

So here's my honest take.

I am giving myself homework after this.

I'm going home.

I would like to know whose show is performing better on HGTV.

Right.

I'm just interested in the the intricacies of their business dealings, that they each have individual shows and that they have a show together.

Very bizarre.

Well, that was actually really smart of HGTV because when that whole blow-up incident happened with the gun, I was like, oh my God, their show is so successful.

They're like a much less successful version of Chip and Joe, but they're a cornerstone of the network for sure.

For sure.

And, you know, I'm obsessed with HGTV.

So I was like, I wonder where this is going.

Yeah.

And

then they just carried on with the show, married and which is also like alarming.

But then they gave them their own shows, which I actually think was really smart because if the show ends up flopping, which I think they can't go on like this forever,

then the network still has them separately.

Do we think like the whole notion of flipper flop flipping out when he's a psycho is kind of hilarious?

There's an undertone.

I don't know, but that would be funny.

It would be funny.

I just honestly, like, I just hope, I feel like Christina has gotten herself into a good place to remove herself from this crazy, despite the fact that she has to deal with it every now and again.

I know.

But I hope that Heather is okay, to be honest with you, because it just seems like there's just no way in how he can control himself on the regular if they're saying that he's too

busy cast and crew because she didn't like the way he signaled ready to film.

Like, that's not a thing.

No, that's like a real sign of someone who is abusive.

Like, he's triggered

by nonsense.

Absolutely.

So, honestly, I'm wishing the best for Christina Hack and Heather Ray Young.

Well, so then Christina

married Anne

Anstead, who's now dating Renee Zellweger.

They got divorced, and now he has a show in Discovery Plus, like about some shit.

I don't know, he's like a host.

And Renee Zellweger went on it, and now they're dating.

Okay, I'm waiting for my HGTV show.

It seems like you guys are just giving them out left and right.

Where's the hours of programming?

Because every time I turn it on, it's reruns from the 80s.

Well, Magnolia Network did just launch, like literally this week.

Yeah, I saw that.

Are you a Chip and Joe girlie?

I'm into them.

Like, I follow Joanna on Instagram.

Like, I am, I totally get the shiplap of it all.

Yeah.

Am I ride or die?

No, I'm more ride or die for Pioneer woman redrum and she's my fucking idol um but that's food network bbe and that's where i live but they're all a part of that discovery network you know do you have discovery plus i don't actually okay i have a couple more questions for you before we wrap up the episode and i can't wait to hear them your nails look fabulous oh thank you they're our sponsor one one off of today's sponsor but i'll send you i'll give you something oh my god please because i just ordered some press-ons from amazon that i was gonna put on this morning and

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So Olivia, before we let you go, how's Michaela?

She's doing so great.

We were gonna bring her today.

Like, obviously, not show her on the show because you've spoken on the Patreon about how you're just not there yet.

Yeah.

Or probably won't ever be.

But we were like going to like have her chill in the stroller.

But I feel like she would have been destructive.

She would have just really wanted to be part of the action so badly that like it would just have been super distracting for us because she would have been like yelling in the background, kicking and screaming and trying to bust out of her stroller.

And it is her nap time.

I'm like pretty, like, I would say, I don't want to use the word strict because like I don't think that that's the right word.

You're incredibly strict.

I am, um, I adhere to my routine.

You're strict.

I adhere to my routine.

Just with the timing.

Yeah, like, honestly.

She's a spoiled rock.

She's 14 months today and she still takes two naps.

I don't want to move to one nap because then it just is a big nap in the middle of the day.

And like, if you want to do anything, go anywhere.

Like, it's impossible.

So I have a great structure in place right now and I'm not fucking with it.

And so what is Michaela doing?

Like, what are some milestones she's recently reached?

She's taking some first steps, which is extremely excited she's not like fully walking yet but if we kind of like let her go in between like zach and i for probably like five feet like she'll walk to the other one so like really exciting there she's also taking swim lessons which is it's so funny because she actually like loves being in the water she loves bath time and like anytime we've taken her in a pool like she adores it but as it relates to swimming she literally just whines the whole time and her this past tuesday she was being crankmeister in the pool.

And then when we took her out, she started laughing and waved to her swimming instructor.

I swear to God, I was like, you little baker.

Like, you're just looking for so much attention.

Are you kidding me?

And like, what?

What is Michaela playing with?

Like, what are her new kind of stuff?

Oh, my God.

Number one toy right now are these stackable cups.

So like nesting cups.

And she is, I can't even believe like how smart she is.

I know that like every parent says that about their child.

No, this child, she will sit on the floor for over an hour and stack and unstack them perfectly.

When she puts one in and it's wrong, she immediately knows it's wrong, takes it out and keeps going.

I actually just bought another set of like stacking nesting cups that are like pleny colors just because I like wanted like more variety, but there's just nothing like this toy that she just sits there, legs spread, cups in the middle, stack, stack, stack away for like literally an hour.

It's unbelievable.

You know, I have a question because like

when I look at Michaela, I literally like, and this is just me being completely objective because I would feel this way anyway, but I think that there's literally never been a child more stunning.

Thank you.

And like people send me pictures of their nieces.

I'm like, yeah, cute.

Not as cute as Michaela, but cute.

And I'm curious, like, am I under a spell or like we just need like a toe?

Like, I'm like, it's possible that Michaela, like, it would never be, but like, that she's like heinous, but like, she's gorgeous.

You know what I mean?

No, I do know what you mean, but I'll never be able to see her as anything other than the most gorgeous thing that ever was created.

But I actually think I'm being impartial in saying that.

No, no, I know.

I feel the same way.

It's like when everyone's like, oh my God, she's so beautiful.

I'm like, I know, I think so too.

But like, of course, I have to say that, but like, I really do feel that way.

But I think for me, it was kind of like solidified when our pediatrician was like, she could be a Gerber baby.

And I was like, okay, you see so many kids.

Like, you're saying that to me.

Like, I now feel like I'm not completely delusional.

But regardless, of course, like, all children are beautiful.

No, all children are beautiful.

and everybody that like you love and you're related to like you see beauty in them and like that's true like you see them in a way that you know other people don't see them right it's like the same way it's like what you find attractive right like I find Zach attractive you find Ben attractive and also because like we love them and we love their personality and everything about them but somebody some like troll could be like her husband's so ugly like how does she find him attractive right but like I do right

that's yeah no but like sometimes I think I'm like is Michaela really that bitch?

I think she is.

I think she might be.

No, I think.

She's also just so good.

Like, she has such a good, sweet soul.

Like, she never really cries.

She's such a happy baby.

Like, when we pick her up in the morning, she's always just like biggest smile on her face.

Like, even when she wakes up in the morning, like, she just lays there silently until we come get her.

And like, sometimes it's five minutes and like, sometimes it's 30 minutes because, like, I want to try to get her to like sleep later.

And thinking that, like, she lays there and we'll fall back to sleep.

Like, doesn't always happen.

But, yeah.

What do you think Michaela's going to be when she grows up?

Ooh, I don't know.

I, you know.

I think she'll be a gymnast.

She can be whatever she wants to be.

I think

the stacking and the building, like she likes the whole notion of building.

Do you think she'll work in like contracting?

I don't know.

I think she might.

I could see her like just doing something kind of like really creative.

People say the craziest things about their kids.

You fucking prompted me.

I was joking.

I'm crying.

We're like, yeah, no, she's like, I want to be a cheerleader and a mom.

Who said that?

Margo used to say when she was a kid, she would be like, I want to be a cheerleader and a mom, which is so sweet.

And what did you used to say?

You definitely want to be a gymnast.

Yeah, or like a celebrity.

Nailed it.

You naturally didn't.

Well, I feel like you always had this like aura about you where you were like, I'm going to be famous someday.

But like, you never said, when I grew up, I want to be a celebrity.

No, I never did.

But people, when I was like a kid, I was just like so nuts.

I had so much energy.

If you read about it in my New York Times best-selling book.

Absolutely.

People were always like, you're going to be famous.

And I'm like, yeah.

And thank God I did, because if I didn't, I would have been like really depressed.

And like in college, Jackie was very much like, I want to be a host of some sort.

And like, she used to like interview the football team.

Jackie says that she's like, in this job, is fully living out her dreams.

Absolutely.

And I can attest to that.

I am too.

But like, her career dreams are being fulfilled in terms of hosting.

Well, it's so funny because of the part that I listened to with the Not Skinny Ben Fad episode, you guys were talking about the fact that like really so many kids grow up and they're like, I want to be Juliana Romantic.

And there's not enough jobs for everyone.

Blah, blah, blah.

But it's like, that was Jackie.

And I remember, like, she used to say those words, like, that's exactly what she wanted to do.

And she ran like the network for Colgate.

Like, they had this like losery little

news station.

She interviewed the football team and like go to the games with like a microphone that had a really long wire and like, how are you feeling about the game today?

Yeah, you know, literally.

Yeah, no, 100%.

She just loved to see people living their dreams.

Absolutely.

Olivia, I have lived my dream here with you today.

Thank you so much for spending the time.

I know you're busy.

I know the toasters really appreciate you taking time off of work and off of being Michaela's mom to come grace us with your presence so thank you for being here I am thrilled to have been here this is my first time in the new studio setup so loving everything that is happening here love the toasters love the vibe I feel like it was such a great episode even with such shitty stories

some days it's like what is going on in this world I want to go to another planet and like never come back here again and then other days it's just like another day like yep we made it through and I feel like that is what today was about and tomorrow is going to be a podcast only with Jackie Jackie.

We're finally going to be able to catch up, talk about all the things that went down here today, this week.

I'm so glad to be back with my girl.

I'm not going to lie.

I'm exhausted.

Yeah, you worked hard.

Doing the toast, like, not by myself, but like all the work by myself, like I really learned, and this happens every time Jackie leaves to appreciate like how much we really share like the workload.

Yeah.

Because I have just been dead.

Like I have like every single day felt like I ran a marathon, which everyone knows I did not.

So

thank you all for bearing with me, for being so excited about the the guest co-host.

I hope you've enjoyed this week.

I've actually had a really, really good time, and I'm so glad we got to get some people in studio who haven't been in yet, like Tyler and Amanda.

So no, it was such a good range of interesting people with such good perspectives on like a balance of regulars and new people.

Like Taylor's regular, you're a regular.

Taylor Strucker is a queen.

Angel from heaven.

I love you guys so much.

So tomorrow's episode is not video.

It's just podcasts with Jackie and it'll be up in the morning.

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Gotta get down on Friday.

Bye.

Bye, everyone.