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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Friday.

We won't sing together on this show.

One, because we just did an episode of podcast reviews, so we're a little butthurt about the singing complaints.

And two, we're still remote, so we wouldn't be able to sync sync up.

Yeah, I guess we don't have to sing together.

It's Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday.

Hope everyone is acknowledging the space that they're currently in and really just relishing in the summer weekend we have ahead of us, whatever your plans are.

I hope you are looking forward at these next few alarm-free living days with joy, hope, and happiness.

And most importantly, inner peace.

Oh, so beautiful.

All of those things sound so lovely.

I found so many of those moments because I am on vacation and I'm just having such a wonderful time.

If you guys listen to the Patreon, like you know what's new with me.

And if you haven't, then you should go and listen because the episode we recorded yesterday is hysterical.

And then also like you could catch up with me, what's new with me, what's new with Brew.

But Claude, what's new with you?

We haven't FaceTimed since we podcasted.

So like, what's the latest?

You know what?

I'm just, I'm feeling, I'm feeling a lot because as we spoke about on the Patreon yesterday or two days ago, I feel really happy with how this week went.

Like, I feel very accomplished.

I think it was a great week for the toast, great week for everyone involved.

I am so exhausted from just like doing it by myself.

And I also have like a crazy weekend planned.

I just felt like I deserved like a bender.

So, on Monday, you're going to show up like refreshed from your weekend and your week of vacation.

And I'm going to show up actually looking like Remy, the ratatouille, the rat of all my dreams.

Oh, so you're going to show up being a five-star chef?

Can't wait.

Can't fucking wait.

What are you going to make for me, chef?

I'm going to make you Ratatouille.

Yeah, I made Ratatouille in a cooking class once, and I just did not get the hype.

And you will see

for there to be a whole movie about Ratatouille when it's just like a random fucking meal choice.

I don't get it.

Yeah, I've never had it.

I do know you made it in your cooking class, and I do believe you also made it for us like once at Shabbat, right after the cooking class.

So, you know what?

Your memory is so on point, and I'll tell you what did happen.

You've never said that to me.

We made ratatouille in the cooking class.

It had a lot of steps.

The first step was to like roast these vegetables, and then you put the vegetables in the tomato sauce and then in the soup.

But I thought the roasted vegetables themselves tasted so delicious.

So, that's what I made for the family.

Just the first step.

Just the first step of the ratatouille.

That was the first thing.

So, what is a ratatouille?

It's a soup?

It's like a tomato-based liquidy dish, dish, yeah.

That's not what you made.

You made grilled vegetables.

No, no, that's what I'm saying.

I did step one, grill the vegetables.

Oh, interesting.

Okay.

And then you like put those veggies into the chewy.

Got it.

So it's the chewy.

It's the chewy that makes it liquidy.

I just made rat.

That's so funny.

Well, I don't remember.

You'll have to make it for us again.

Oh, I would love to, Claudia.

You know I would.

So now that we're end of our friends and family week at the toast, I would love to hear your thoughts like on some of the co-hosts.

I know you don't listen to like every minute of every episode, and that's fine because you're on vacation.

But I would just love to hear some of your thoughts.

So I'm going to share my thoughts.

And just I want to let you know, I only watched still Amanda's episode because I was still home.

And I'm going to download the other episodes for my flight home.

I feel like.

The three episodes, my flight will be over in a flash because they're all like about an hour.

So that's my big plan.

My thoughts for that, of course, like I have FOMO, you know, and it's like, it's so nice to see the show thriving and there's so much buzz and Tyler C and Theo are like falling in love and Theo is pregnant.

But I just felt like, you know, I would love to have been a fly on the wall.

And also like, what's going on in the world?

I'm so unplugged.

Like, I have a question for you.

We've never spoken about this, but when you're hanging out with other people and they like ask you to explain something all the time in pop culture to them, like, doesn't it annoy?

I'm literally like, I'm off the clock.

I'm literally like, sorry, gotta go run into traffic.

It's, it's my least favorite thing only because I actually, in my free time, love to talk about this stuff with with someone like you who's equally as knowledgeable.

But if you're not on my level, like you don't know every single detail of the housewife and the hustler and the Girardi case, like I can't explain it to you from the beginning.

That's like asking me to read the encyclopedia to you.

Yeah.

No, like I'm not a teacher.

And also I find that like when I'm talking, when I'm talking about something for so long, like people do check out and it's like, bitch, you asked me.

No, and then when they ask, it's just downright disrespectful because they're basically saying, I don't listen to the morning toast.

Right.

No, it's like, it's all there laid out in front of you.

I just, not that anyone's done that to me this week, but I was just about to say to you, um, like, what's going on this week?

Well, actually,

I did really feel like you because, my God, it is hard to choose stories.

And of course, Monday was easy.

Like, I will not lie.

I actually did six stories on Monday because there was like so much to recap with not skinny, but not that.

And it was like sub stories.

Great.

And then I knew Tuesday would be harder.

And then I thought there would be a pickup in some other day.

Wednesday was a shit show.

Thursday was a shit show.

And so, like,

it was so frustrating because I know not every day is going to be like hot news, buzzworthy stories.

But oh my God, I wasn't expecting literally four out of the five days to be deserted.

Yeah, no, I've been trying to tell you.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

So I have to say, that's probably been my least favorite part of doing this.

Actually, my least favorite part of doing it by myself is that the other person doesn't really know the time crunch that I'm on to work our ads into the show.

And I also feel weird reading ads in front of Tyler C, I'm not going to lie.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I could see how that could be awkward.

No, it really, it was painful.

So

yeah, that was probably what I struggled with the most, but I do want to let everyone know, just to kind of be consistent for this entire week, I have chosen the stories for today's show.

Usually Jackie does when we're podcasting remotely and every other show, but I am going to, I chose the stories and I'm going to read them aloud just because I've kind of gotten in this groove and I just don't want to finish what I started.

Monday, it's your problem again.

But until then, it's mine.

Yes.

And also, I want to be a bit more.

I'm sorry, are you busy?

No.

You're like touching your phone.

Who's texting you?

Okay, sorry.

There's music playing in the background where I am and I'm trying to get them to turn it off.

Oh, okay.

So you're texting Zach.

Okay, no, that's fine.

I'm just like, this girl is not listening to anything I'm fucking saying.

No, I'm listening to everything that you're saying.

I'm going to be doing the ads.

I'm excited to see what stories you chose because it's going to be a totally different show than if I were the one choosing the stories.

And also,

I'm, yeah, I'm excited.

This is really a role reversal for us, like to, for me to react, you know?

Do you feel powerless?

No, I feel, I feel relaxed.

I do.

Well, and I'm excited.

But I do feel like, what, I feel like I'm on someone's podcast.

Like, what are we talking about today?

Also, this is going to be a Claudia Explains It All kind of episode because we're talking about housewise.

I know you probably haven't been keeping up with everything that's been on TV this last week.

I have because I have nothing else to do.

So I will give you some context backstory on the show, on the stories that are about TV shows that I know you haven't seen yet.

Okay, cool.

I love A Claudia Explains It All, you know, because I'm just like such a grandma and I'm really out of touch.

And as far as content goes for me, I finished Medici on Netflix and I thought it was really good.

I finished my book, People We Meet on Vacation, and I thought it was kind of bad.

Oh, it's on my list.

But the people on TikTok like it.

I feel like you're too like elevated and smart for it.

Well, I liked the other book by that author.

I don't think it was because I was being elevated and smart.

Like, I think it was just, I don't think you would like it.

Oh, really?

It just dragged on a little too much for me and it was just like a little stupid.

These two people are like obviously in love OTP.

Like fucking make it work.

Sorry.

Have you been watching Love Island at all?

No.

Oh my God.

I have to say, Love Island.

Is it a whole different show now?

No, but last night's episode started the new season of the same show.

Like two, I won't spoil it for you, but two girls decided to blow shit up.

Oh my God.

I'm so excited.

Download that for the plane.

It's so fucking good.

And you know, everyone keeps telling me, like, you have to watch UK.

You have to watch UK.

I hear you.

I'm so happy with where I'm at with Love Island U.S.

And I guess if you compared it, maybe you could say one is better than the other.

I'm having the best time.

I don't need to take on like this burden with all these new seasons.

Like, I'm so like riding or dying for Shannon and Josh.

Like, I don't think I need to be disrupted.

And I feel like Love Island UK, correct me if I'm wrong, really gives me

too hot to handle vibes.

I feel that.

Maybe that's because all those people are british though i heard a rumor that this season u.s is actually better than uk no i'm telling you i'm like how can anything be better this is so good

Yeah, so I feel good about our choice too.

You know, you can't do it all.

There is a U.S.

version that airs every night.

You don't have to download a VPN, even though you could use IP Vanish if you wanted to.

If you wanted to, you could.

But, you know, sometimes you could just also turn on CBS.

No, it's so easy.

And like with the Paramount Plus, I don't even record it because it goes on Paramount Plus the next day or even that night.

So it's so premium.

And this isn't even an ad, even though they do sponsor our show here and there.

I'm having the best time.

So thank you to everyone who's recommending UK, but I'm finding this inner peace and I don't want to disturb it because I'm just loving having something to watch, being a part of something in real time.

Yeah, no, you're definitely a part of everything.

I really feel like you're really a part of everything this week.

Like you're just like so booked and busy and like you were in, like there were articles written about, like things that you discussed.

Our Tyler C episode was making the press.

So, thank you to all the toasters who work at various publications who just thought it would be interesting to write up that Tyler C and his girlfriend didn't date, didn't kiss till their fifth date.

So, interesting.

Fascinating.

So, and that's good for Theo to know that probably he's got four more dates under his belt before he gets mooch.

I'm not even being dramatic when I say Theo has truly not been the same since Tyler left the studio.

Did you see how he was literally like yearning out the window when Tyler left?

Yes, I did.

I did see that.

I saw the pictures.

I saw people tagged me in like videos of like just Tyler just stroking Theo the whole time.

Theo sat with Tyler from start to finish.

Didn't even look at me once, slept so peacefully.

I've never seen his eyes close that shut.

Like he's, he reached a level of euphoria, like rubbing up against Tyler's thigh.

And I think that's probably a feeling a lot of us would feel if we were ever in that position.

Theo is all of us.

No, literally.

Yeah, well, speaking of Theo, I think without further ado to do to do.

One last thing.

I was really torn on whether or not to bring Theo to the studio that day because with guests, I don't want to overwhelm Theo.

I don't want to overwhelm the guests.

You don't know if they're allergic to dogs.

Like, it's just not whatever.

And something, he was like looking at me when I was leaving.

He was like,

and I'm so glad.

It made the episode.

Like, I was so glad I ended up bringing him.

That's Theo, the businessman, and the doctor.

And you know that Tyler C., like, is a dog lover.

We spoke to you.

We didn't watch the episode yet, but we spoke so much about barchitecture yes the show for dogs like he's a puppophile yes and i won't spoil it for you but i did ask the hard-hitting questions about who took out the trash in the quarantine house and did you ask who made the biggest dump no but jackie he was dying laughing when I was like, me and Jackie could not get over how much trash was being acquired in this home.

Like, did you never take out the trash?

He was like, we took it out every five minutes.

There were so many people in the house and there were so many press boxes coming like so much pr that all the cardboard all the boxes like it added up so quickly and i was like i actually really appreciated the insight yeah no that was just a crazy time when he looks back on on that time what does he think

i think he definitely had a little shame associated with his dancing in a lot of those videos but he did say like he has a big dance project coming up which he wouldn't tell me about i'm like dancing with the stars but you can't it's so it's so top secret if you're going to be on dancing with the stars.

He would never have been allowed to drop it on the podcast.

So I don't know what the hell he was referring to, but I guess

it was good practice.

Yeah, maybe he's going to be like a judge on so you think you can dance.

I don't fucking know.

Interesting.

Maybe he's hosting like doggy dancing with the stars, dancing with the dogs.

I mean, I would literally tune into that in three seconds.

Me too.

Okay, well, speaking now of dogs, without further ado, to do to do, do you feel good about that?

I do.

I do.

Sorry.

I had to just get that last one thing in.

You do, you do.

I do, do, do.

Okay, without further ado, to do to do, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know that Claudia has chosen before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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All right, Claudia.

And now to you, Claudia, in the studio.

Literally.

Okay, first up, Doreen and P.K.

Kemsley reportedly owe over a million dollars in unpaid taxes.

So So the reason why I thought this is interesting, and I'll read the article, is because, and I know you didn't see, but this week, Dorit, when trying to commiserate with Erica, talked about how last year they had all those financial problems and really spoke about them like they were in the past.

And I believed her and I was like, oh my God, I'm so glad this is behind her.

But no, not according to page six.

Erica Jane isn't the only real housewife finding out that life can be just a little too expensive.

Real housewives of Beverly Hills cast member Doreet Kemsley and her husband PK reportedly owe more than $1.3 million combined in unpaid taxes dating back to 2015.

Was she on the show in 2015?

No,

maybe 2016 because I think her first season was when we were doing the breath and that was 2017.

According to documents obtained by The Sun, PK has two active solo tax liens in the state of California.

One for about $300,000 and then that one's from 2015 and then another one for $290,000 from October of 2018.

He and Dari are then both named in a 2018 tax document that states that the couple owes the IRS $635,000.

She rounds out the debt with her own individual tax lien from March 2021 that states she owes the state of California an additional $90,000.

So that all totals to $1.3 million.

All liens remain unpaid.

They put their house on the market.

for $9.5 million in September.

So, and it's just been reduced to $8 million if that's any indicator indicator of desperate levels.

Got it.

Okay, this is really

unfortunately not surprising.

I feel like for a few years now, we've kind of been waiting for the other shoe to drop with Darien PK because, like, even though, even if he is the most successful manager of Boy George of all time, like looks, looks, looks for Durate, like those things cost money.

No, and let's say not like, let's say, like, I don't even understand how he works with Boy George, but even if he does, getting as a manager 10% of Boy George's annual earnings does not

support the lifestyle they live, even outside of all of her glam.

Their house, their trips, everything, the cars, the homes.

Agreed.

Boy George is not Justin Bieber.

So, right.

And even, by the way, even really successful music managers or any type of managers don't have one successful client.

They have like five, and that's how they sustain their business.

Yeah.

So I've always just tried to like hope that, you know, he has investments in in other businesses that I don't know about.

Family money, everything.

Everything was fine over at the Kemsleys.

It's clear everything is not fine.

It's also crazy now that like now that the level of housewife crime has reached where it is, it's like, oh, she didn't pay her taxes.

At least like, you know, it's not orphans and widows.

No, of course.

And honestly, like, you know me, I'm such a hater.

At least it's not gullible elderly.

Yeah, no, like, and this is a Teresa Judice situation.

The only people Teresa Judice committed a crime against was the government.

And it's like, yeah, fuck the government.

Like, so with Doreen, I don't think she's a bad person or like evil, but this does worry me because I already do feel like this season, she's kind of taking a back seat, which isn't bad.

Everyone has good seasons and hot seasons and whatever, but she's already kind of fading into the background.

And if they really don't have any money, like that's just.

It's not good for her future on the show.

And I think that the show sustains a good amount of their lifestyle.

Yeah.

Also, watching someone, you could say, like, this storyline now makes her interesting.

Like, hearing that someone didn't pay their taxes is just like not interesting to me.

Yeah, unless PK is going to go to jail.

Unless.

Because this is from 2015.

And as far as I know, because I have accidentally underreported taxes, like when from when I was in college, I spoke about it in my book.

You just get a notice, and they're like, girl, you underreported.

You have to pay X amount.

And here's penalties and interest.

And you pay it.

So when I got that letter, it was like two years later.

This is from 2015.

So that's six years.

And I do believe, I don't know at what point when you don't pay, does it become a crime?

Because people do they make mistakes who owe money, right?

So things happen.

Like everyone, I think that if you run a business, has miscalculated and owed back, it's called back taxes.

I don't think that's not a crime because the government's like, you owe X amount of money.

We're not going to tell you what it is, type of thing.

Right, but if you get it wrong, but if you get it wrong, you go to jail.

Right.

So I don't know at what point does it go from being a mistake to being a crime?

But I do feel like six years is a long time.

Yeah, I mean, hopefully they are as, you know, well off as they say.

And they're like, and they saw this article and they're like, oh, we didn't pay our taxes.

Like, we will go send a million point three to the government today.

See, I'll never understand, there's a lot of things I don't understand, but I'll never understand people who owe millions of dollars to the government, which I could end you up in jail, but choose to buy fancy homes and cars.

So it's like at one point they did have the money.

They had to put down a payment for this house.

Why not put that money stay in your rental and send it to the government just so you don't go to jail?

Like, I'll just never understand that logic.

Yeah,

I don't, I don't know.

There is a degree of like human error with some of this stuff, but then there's also like it's intentional, especially after so many years.

Like, unless you know, they really like don't check their mail.

But no, but then it's like, right, when does human error become evading your taxes?

Yeah, I don't know.

But I agree.

This This is a very large amount over a lot of years, and

you have to earn the money in order to owe the money.

And they just spent the money.

So the 90 grand that she owes from March 2021, like it's very possible she miscalculated.

Like that to me is not the big story.

The big story is 300 grand from 2015 and another 300 grand from 2018.

You know about that.

Yeah, and but that's just PK.

Just PK, yes.

And then they have a communal one for $635,000 also from 2018.

Oof, that's not good.

If I had to guess, this is smelling like an evasion, not a mistake.

Yeah.

Also, just like unrelated, but related, I'm in LA and I saw Lisa Vanderpump today.

Oh, my God, where?

At Malibu Country Mart, I think it is, where there's like all these little shops.

And actually, Zach was the one who spotted her.

Of course.

And then I was just like looking over my shoulder and it was her indeed.

She looked very fabulous.

You know, I didn't go and say anything just because we, you know, talk a lot of smack.

No, that was me at Jackson Britney's wedding, like running to the other side of the room.

Not that she even knows who the fuck we are, like irrelevant uglies.

No, but it's like just because I still have, I have like, you know, integrity.

Integrity.

And it's just like, I would never talk out of one side of my mouth and then go be fake on the other.

And also, like, I'm just not the type of person that goes up to celebrities anyway.

But also at the same time that I saw her, like a toaster saw me.

And it was just, and then the toaster FaceTimed her sister because her sister is the bigger fan.

And then I was like, do you watch Vanderpump Rules?

And then like, it was both me and Lisa in the frame.

It was good times.

Got to see those photos.

Yeah, no, she just DM'd them to me.

It was really funny.

So yeah, that's like what happens when you're in LA.

You know, some people aren't paying their taxes.

Other people are seeing Lisa Vanderpump.

That's so true.

And you know, there's two types of people in LA.

There used to be all these whispers about Lisa's finances and like the restaurants and stuff that happened to her back in the UK.

But as I always say, there's proof proof in the pudding.

Like, you're not in jail.

You're not in page six for owing money to the government.

Like, you're squeaky clean in my book.

Yeah, there is proof in the pudding.

And you do say that.

And by the way, there is a difference between being in a lawsuit and evading taxes because

in a lawsuit, you just have to pay back.

In evading taxes, you could go to jail.

Yeah.

No, it's crazy.

Like, PK in jail.

I can't imagine it.

Darit?

Yeah.

I mean, is Darit, how much money did the Judiches

evade or steal or fraud?

I don't know, but they also had other crimes like, you know, forgery and wire tax.

Wire fraud.

It was beyond, if their only problem was evading taxes, they might not have gone to jail.

Or definitely Teresa wouldn't have.

Yeah, but she had like some signatures.

Yeah, on

mail fraud.

They had like every single one, racketeering, every bad one they had.

Yeah, exactly.

So that's your Housewives Finance news.

Well, thank you so much for sharing that with me because I didn't know.

And

as a Dorit stan, like,

again,

not surprised that there was more to their financial story.

You know, I hate to say this because I don't always believe it.

But in this particular situation, I do believe that the phrase applies.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Yeah.

But if this is the fire, like they could get, like, Dorit could put her whole paycheck this season towards paying off that tax.

Yeah.

Well, I'm sure there's a lot of penalties and interest beyond

what they actually owe.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, we're wishing her the best.

Maybe we'll start her or go fund me.

I don't know if you can go fund me for your taxes.

You'd also have to pay taxes on the money you raise.

So true.

Trust me.

Like, if that was a thing, I'd be doing it.

It's a vicious cycle.

That's why they say big brother's always watching.

Yeah.

All right.

Next up, 13 Reasons Why Star Tommy Dorfman comes out as transgender.

Tommy Dorfman has come out as transgender.

The 13 Reasons Why star shared in a new interview with Time magazine that she has been living as a woman and uses she/slash her pronouns.

She said, We're talking today to discuss my gender.

For a year now, I have been privately identifying and living as a woman, a trans woman.

Dorfman said she's using the interview as a means to reintroduce herself as she's undergone surgery to medically become a woman.

Coming out is always viewed as this grand reveal, but I was never not out, she explained.

Today is about clarity.

I am a trans woman.

My pronouns are she/slash/her.

My name is Tommy.

She did this sickening photo shoot with Time magazine where she just looks bomb.com.

And you just love to see people out here living their truths, their best lives.

And I think my favorite fact of this is that Tommy Dorfman is cousins with Andy Dorfman.

I just found that out.

I don't watch 13 Reasons Why, so I'm unfamiliar with her work, but I'm very happy to hear this news.

Someone living their truth and feeling

respected and welcomed enough to share with the world.

I only found out, I had, I think I maybe knew that they were cousins, but on an episode of Real Housewives of New York or Beverly Hills, they were at a fashion event and they're showing all the celebrities who are at this fashion event and it says Tommy and Andy Dorfman.

And I'm like, oh my God, they're definitely cousins.

That's so crazy.

And that's crazy that that's how you found that out.

I wonder who was famous first.

I feel like Andy.

I feel like Andy also.

Because Andy was on the bachelorette so long ago.

Is Tommy from anything else other than 13 Reasons Why?

I'm sure.

Oh, yes, Love Victor, The Hulu Show.

Or no, yeah, Love Victor's on Hulu.

Yeah.

I didn't watch it either.

Very cute.

Yeah, well, happy for her.

Love to see.

people living their truths.

This is a story.

I don't know if you know this, and I think it'll blow your mind, but you probably know.

You know that Liz Gillies was on Watch What Happens Live last night.

So I saw a video that looked like she was on Watch What Happens Live, and I never got confirmation, but I went on with my day as if she was on Watch What Happens Live.

Yes, she was on, and she looked stunning.

She wore a vintage Bob Mackey dress.

Like it was, she just looked, she looked like Fallon, first of all.

Right, that's what I saw with the cape and like the all of it.

Stunning.

And I just don't know if she's ever been on Watch What Happens Live, but it was a great convergence for me of like everything.

But is she a big Bravo fan?

I didn't watch, so

I'm not sure.

But the big news from that interview was why she wasn't at Ariana Grande's wedding.

So e-news writes up why Victoria's star Elizabeth Gillies turned down an invitation to Ariana Grande's wedding.

Unfortunately for Elizabeth Gillies, she had to reply, thank you next, to Ariana Grande's wedding invitation.

Unlike most of us, she was well aware her friend was set to marry Dalton Gomez during an intimate ceremony in May, but the pandemic prevented her from attending, especially given the tight safety precautions on most TV and film sets.

She said, I could not get off work to go to her wedding because we would have to be cleared for like seven days to fly.

So not only could I not tell anybody, but I also couldn't even ask for the day off and I couldn't get the day off.

So I would have been there.

So

we had Madison Brown on the toast and Madison said like they're so tight with COVID and they haven't had an outbreak yet and like a lot of shows have quit like paused production for people on the crew or the stars getting COVID, but Dynasty has not.

And I guess it's because they're super, super strict, strict enough that Liz couldn't even go to Ariana's wedding.

Yeah, and from the vibe I get from watching all their stories of them filming Dynasty is like they literally work 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Like they film so many episodes.

And like, so it's not just like lackadaisical over there.

And that's just a bummer that she didn't get to see that sickening look in person,

you know, because that was definitely like a historic moment.

Yes, that's like a thing with the CW shows.

They all are an hour.

They're 22, maybe even more episodes per season.

And so they're literally like living in Vancouver for Riverdale or Atlanta for Dynasty for most of the year, which like, you know, HBO shows film like 30-minute episodes, 10 episodes.

So it's literally like less than half the work.

So I feel like there, if you're on one of those shows, you're just like always working.

Yeah, which is, you know, probably tiresome, but great work for a working actor.

Like

a very steady job.

Yeah.

So I guess that's really the moral of this story is, you know, Liz Gillies has a steady job.

Liz Gillies has a nine to five.

Couldn't make friends wedding.

Yeah, and I also feel like

couldn't get PTO.

I also think that so relatable.

I also think that that also stops a lot of the people on those shows from becoming like uber famous because they can't go to like events or red carpets because they're literally in Vancouver.

Like the Riverdale cast became so famous so fast.

It was actually crazy.

Do you remember that time?

Like

30 million Instagram followers.

Yes.

I was on that ride.

And now I feel like they're kind of irrelevant.

Well, everything just, you know, what goes up must come down.

I think now they're not irrelevant, but they're big stars and they're not, they're just chilling up there.

Yeah, yeah.

They're just no longer rising.

They've risen.

They have risen.

Yeah.

So,

yeah, I have to catch up with Dynasty, but I do like to batch them all together.

I need to watch her on Watch What What Happens Live.

Do you know who she was on with?

I do, but it's just like not coming to me at all.

That's okay.

Those things happen.

But no, that's a beautiful collaboration.

Oh, I think it was Sutton.

Oh.

Oh, my God.

Our friend Margo saw Sutton's track on Madison Avenue yesterday.

Oh, my God.

Walking with like shopping bags and people, and she like looked stunning.

And you just, like, I would expect.

Nothing less.

Nothing.

And she, um,

they gave us a mid-season trailer.

I don't know if you saw it.

No, I didn't.

Yeah.

I mean, it was all like on Instagram.

Like, you might have seen it.

But it looks like coming up, Sutton's kind of the only one who's questioning what Erica knew, what her intentions are.

And Erica does not take it lightly.

Like, she comes for Sutton, just for Sutton asking, I think things a lot of us are wondering as well.

Yeah, I mean, time will tell, but I do think that would probably play well for Sutton among the audience, because I think a lot of people have questions.

And if all the ladies just sort sort of brush it under the rug, you know, especially after they held Denise's feet to the fire,

I don't think the audience will be pleased.

So I think that actually will be a good Q score move for Sutton.

Ever since you implanted that in my brain, I'm having a really hard time reconciling with this season because as much as I love female friendship, that's one of my favorite things about Love Island is that it's not caddy at all.

It's the most mature group of women.

They're so supportive.

They're like always singing and dancing in their dressing rooms.

Like it's so cute.

And it's actually one of my favorite parts that gets me to tune in.

And so I love that they're all really being there for Erica.

And I don't think it's right to like turn on people when they're down.

But

the track record of this group is so like tumultuous when people are going through things that are so much less bad that once you made that comparison for me, it's really been difficult for me to like watch them all kind of coddle her.

Yeah.

I agree.

When Denise did something off camera, not illegal, not immoral, nothing wrong with it.

And they had to make it the center of the group, shame her for it, bring it up in every conversation, and ultimately got her to leave the show because of it.

It's just difficult for me to reconcile.

I don't think that's crazy.

No, I don't think that's crazy.

And I'm sure when I watch it, I'll feel the exact same way.

So, yeah, you know,

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Courtney Cox admits that the Friends Reunion nomination is not exactly the Emmy she was looking for.

In case you haven't heard, the much talked about HBO Max Friends Reunion, which much to the delight of fans debuted back in May, recently snagged an Emmy nomination.

Courtney, along with co-stars Jen, David, Matt, Matthew Perry, and Lisa have been nominated for their work as executive producers in the Outstanding Variety Special category.

Here's what she had to say.

Honestly, I am so happy that the reunion has been recognized because I think it's terrific.

Ben Winston, the director, did a great job and all of his crew.

However, although the actress expressed her joy about the special getting nominated, she also dropped a hint about missing one of her own.

That's not exactly the Emmy I was looking for, she admitted.

I'm being honest with you.

Over the course of the hit show's 10-year run, Courtney was the only cast member of the group that did not receive an Emmy nomination.

Back in June, during an appearance on Howard Stern, she shared her true feelings about that matter.

She said, yeah, it always hurt my feelings.

When every single cast member was nominated but me, it definitely hurt my feelings.

I was happy for everybody.

And then when it was finally like, oh, I'm the only one, that hurt.

So I actually didn't know that.

I think I've looked up before who was nominated for anything from that show just because I was curious, but I don't think I ever put together that she was the only one who didn't get nominated.

And as someone who literally knows everything about the show, I find that really shocking, not because I thought she was such a great actress, but because there were so many worse ones than her.

Because I love friends, but one of my critiques of it is that the acting at many times is community theater.

Who was the worst one?

You know, everyone had good seasons and bad seasons.

I can say without a doubt, the two best actors on the show who literally like lived and breathed their characters and you would have never known they were actors.

Can I guess?

Yeah.

Can I guess Ross and Joey?

Ross and Phoebe.

Okay, fine.

They're both like put so much of themselves and they even said it in the HBL Max reunion, which I thought was cool.

Like they put so much of themselves.

And it's clear that the rest of the group really like respects and regards them as really becoming one with their characters.

If I had to say like who the worsts were,

And don't come for me.

This is just my opinion.

I think definitely Joey Tribiani was atrocious at times.

And I'm sorry, Rachel Greene, like Jennifer Anniston.

And I do believe Jennifer Anniston ended up winning once.

I just thought they were both like subpar, like true sitcom acting, nothing

method or revolutionary about it.

So I do find it shocking.

She really actually, Courtney, even though Monica was not my favorite, she really was Monica.

So I do find it.

surprising that she was the only one excluded when not all of them were really even like that amazing.

In terms of acting,

it's more so surprising that

that special was nominated for something, for producing, whatever.

I didn't watch it, so like I can't be that hard on it.

And you dislike it.

You mean the reunion, not the whole show.

Right.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

No, I'm not that much of a hater.

Even though that.

But like, no, Modern Family gets nominated for Emmys all the time.

Because,

and especially one that's successful and popular, like they should be nominated.

And I agree with Modern Family being nominated.

So like Friends has to fall into that category for me too.

No, just like that the special was

nominated.

I actually agree.

Okay, cool, cool.

Because I loved the special every minute of it because I'm such a big fan.

But I don't think there was really anything revolutionary about like the cinematography or the concept.

And honestly, some of the concepts and the segments were really cringy, like the fashion show.

So I agree.

I don't know if the whole segment, the whole episode is worth an Emmy nomination, especially when this has actually been an amazing year for TV.

There were so many good TV shows.

But I wonder what category it was nominated in.

Like,

I'm gonna Google it.

Bullshit, like, um, you know, special reunion

category.

I agree.

And then it's probably like the things it's nominated with are probably even worse.

So they got four nominations actually.

Okay.

Nominated for production design and lighting design.

Sure.

Do you think that the lighting was really that good, though?

I don't know.

Wait, let me see what else.

Winston was nominated for directing.

Okay, great.

They were all nominated because they were all executive producers, so they got the nomination as well.

So yeah, it's not like best show, period.

It's like random obscure ones.

That's good.

But you know what?

An Emmy is an Emmy.

And so like, why can't we get nominated for best lighting?

Because honestly, we have really good lighting.

No, and why can't we get nominated for best doctor?

Oh, I mean, the good doctor, Dr.

Theodore Ficheman.

I don't know.

That's fucking twisted.

And by the way, let's talk about how that show just like stole his story.

100%.

And let's talk about how the organization Doctors Without Borders really stole Theo's entire mantra.

100%.

I mean, they could say they were inspired, but we all know what really happened.

No, but we,

like, if those are real categories for Emmys, like...

What about the category for like best sisterly bond, the morning toast?

Best like slang.

Yeah, yeah.

No, like there's crazy categories.

I'm in shock.

And you know what?

Like a podcaster having an Emmy is not crazy.

Kelty has two.

I always forget that.

It's like the craziest thing.

Yes, but

like for not podcast work.

No, of course, because she's on entertainment tonight.

But I'm saying it's not that far off that someone could have a podcast and an Emmy.

No, no, no, but like, could you win an Emmy for your podcast?

Yeah, podcast awards are so like obscure and weird because they have a bunch.

Like I heard radio.

there's not, I can't believe there's not one like big real podcast award.

Televised podcasts are so Spotify should put them on, but the thing is, like, when it, when a company like iHeartRadio or Spotify, let's say hypothetically, puts those things on, they own certain podcasts.

And if this is, if it's this big televised event, of course, they're going to give it to their podcast.

It's good press.

You would need like an obscure, like the Hollywood Foreign Podcast Association, the HFPS.

Yeah, no, we need the potties that are not associated with any platform, but just, you know, and the potties that aren't associated with any toilets.

No, I think that that is what's nest and I think that would be really interesting.

And of course, like, if we aren't nominated, then it's complete horseshit.

But

I think we have a chance.

Yeah, I think the only way for like a new podcast award show to legitimize themselves, in my eyes, is to nominate us.

Yeah, just because like we're kind of, you know, we're really harsh critics.

So if you want to, if you want to get good feedback, just nominate us.

We're also thought leaders in the space.

Also, we have a really fucking popular podcast.

It's so funny and sisterly.

So hilarious.

The reviews are in, and we read so many of them.

I told everyone on yesterday's show about it.

Oh, okay, cool.

You guys, you have to go listen.

It was so fucking funny.

And they were, it was, it got pretty real.

Like, there were some mean ones that were just like not helpful.

There were some that probably weren't meant for our show.

Yeah.

But there were some ones that gave us some stuff to think about.

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All right, our final story is a little tech bus news.

I'm so excited.

What's going on?

It's actually really shocking.

Snapchat is growing faster than it has in years.

The ephemeral, ephemeral, ephemeral,

ephemeral ephemeral messaging app now has 293 million daily users.

Just a couple years ago, there were concerns that Snap, the parent company of Snapchat, wouldn't survive as a standalone company.

Its stock price bottomed out at around $5 after a disastrous redesign that slowed user growth and confused advertisers.

The situation is much different now.

Snapchat is growing faster than it has since 2017, the year it went public.

On Thursday, the camera-based messaging app said it had added 13 million daily users during their second quarter, which is a 23% increase from the year ago period.

That means 293 people use Snapchat every day around the world, which is up from 173 million this time four years ago.

So just like for some reference, Twitter reported 206 million daily users in the second quarter.

Snapchat now has 293.

Snap's revenue, yeah, their revenue also soared 116% to $982 million, which is making it a faster growing business than Twitter or Facebook.

So these new numbers solidify one of the most impressive turnaround stories in tech.

They also reflect how tech companies have benefited throughout the pandemic as people increasingly spend more time online.

Snap CEO Evan Spiegel, also husband of Miranda Kerb, has said he expects the app's user base to actually grow faster as the pandemic and lockdowns end, since Snapchat is designed to be used out and about with friends.

So I just thought this was shocking because as a social media influencer, while I don't use Snapchat and I definitely,

you know, went away from it during their big drama when they redesigned and it was just like not about chatting anymore and Discover page.

Um, but I do know that, like, a lot of, and this is what I learned from being on TikTok a lot.

So many of the kids are like, add me on Snap.

Like, they're not even gonna, the way to communicate, you meet someone on the internet, it's not like follow me on Instagram.

It's at what's your snap, add me on Snap.

That's so interesting how that happened.

I do feel like there is a space for Snapchat.

I saw a girl on the plane, like when we landed, she like took the quickest picture of herself on Snapchat and then sent it to her peers.

Jackie, seeing a teenager do a streak, they literally take like

two seconds.

They just have to get their photo in.

Yeah, no, and it's like, it was just so crazy.

And there really is no other app where you do stuff like that because Instagram is so curated.

You know, everybody has the filters and it's like, you know, with the font and everything.

And it's not like for your Finsta-looking selfies.

TikTok, like, it really is just like a met, like a quick one-to-one messaging app.

Like,

I do see how this could happen.

They also have a lot of things.

So you're saying Snapchat is not like other apps?

Snapchat is not like other apps.

And I don't know if it was intentional or they just knew that the proof is in the pudding and that like peep there is a use there's utility for this app but i do think that people are sort of like fed up with the facebooks and instagrams and twitters and like they're all over you and they're like

do this do that download this oh you want to message your friend you got to do it on facebook now i'm like get the fuck out of here i'm on instagram no it's like you want to message someone on facebook download a brand new app yeah and it's they're just like they're hovering they're taking advantage of our time and our energy yeah and it they're you can just like feel them watching everything you're doing.

It's like, okay, like it's just crazy.

And I do feel like Snapchat is a little bit more private and they don't have that.

I don't know what they do with their data and if they're watching you just as you know intently as the other platforms, but it doesn't feel like they are.

No, I mean, I don't know.

I'm literally not on Snapchat.

I don't even have the app on my phone.

Do you?

So I recently deleted it because, as you know, I have a storage issue on my phone and things, you know, it's survival of the fittest.

And I had to delete Snapchat, which I was so upset about because AC uses Snapchat like all the time.

She used to snap her counselor every day.

And can I ask you a question?

Like, why not just get a bigger phone?

There is no bigger phone.

Then, like, there's something wrong with you because, like, the biggest phone is, it's not like you're, you know, you have files.

Like, you don't, you have, are you an average phone user?

You take pictures, you use social media.

Like, there's no reason the biggest phone should not be able to accommodate you to the point where you're deleting apps you actually enjoy and use.

The reason why I don't have enough space is because I don't use the cloud.

And why is that?

I just think it's so funky.

I just like...

By the way, I'm watching Never Have I Ever Season 2, which you will love.

And her mom refuses to pay for the cloud because she says she refuses to pay for something that doesn't exist.

No, and it's like, I mean, even though this movie was so terrible, like it kind of is.

apt here.

The movie Sex Tape where they upload their sex tape to the cloud and then they have to like go and try and find the cloud and it's like really stupid.

But just I think the cloud is just like a little weird and i like having the items on my phone where i can see them and i just i haven't been maybe like someone could you know send me some some pro cloud um

information and information and maybe change my mind about this but every time like even with my 50 000 photos as i'm like nearing you know 257.9 gbs on my phone um

i just can't be i can't be persuaded i'm like you know what i'll i'll erase another thousand photos.

We'll make to see another day.

You're going to like erase pictures of Bruno and Michaela before you download the cloud.

Yeah.

I didn't even know you could use your phone without a cloud.

Yeah.

You can.

You don't have to upload all your pictures to the cloud.

Yeah.

I mean, I guess the downside is like, if I want to go look at a picture from like a million years ago, it takes like a couple seconds to download, but that's really not a big deal, like at all.

I haven't worried about storage ever.

Yeah, no, that's not a big deal at all.

I don't even want pictures from a million years ago on my phone.

So it's just, it's crazy.

At some point, I'm going to have to, you know, make a decision.

Or maybe I'll just get a new phone and then not transfer my pictures over.

That's insane.

I mean, you really are a grandma.

Is that really?

Afraid of the cloud?

Is that crazy?

Am I the only one who thinks the cloud is just like so funky?

I have heard, I know a lot of celebrities don't use the cloud.

Like all their text messages go through a green just because of that big iCloud hack a couple years ago.

Back when there were all those celeb hackings and all the nude photos leaked, like those came from the cloud.

Yes, so the cloud, I agree, isn't the most secure, but that's not what it sounds like your concern is.

I just think, you know, we don't know what we don't know about the cloud.

Sometimes like you and your conspiracy theories like are crazy.

But you know what?

It's fine.

Like AC had to get off Snapchat at one time.

It was bad for her mental health.

And but I wonder how the counselor is handling it.

Cause she like obviously, you know, pesky AC.

No one wants to hear from her anymore.

But I feel like she misses AC.

She She hasn't mentioned it to me.

Well, you know, she keeps all of her emotions bottled up.

Yeah.

So those are the Fast Five stories.

Quite robust, I think.

And I really, I'm not going to lie, I do enjoy like being in control, but I do miss like just sitting around doing nothing, like.

waiting for someone to like bring me a story on a silver platter.

Like I'm sweating.

Like I've never worked so hard in my life.

That's true.

Like thank you so much for having me on your podcast.

Like it was so nice to like come here and talk to you and like get to do like see what you do.

It really is like such a pleasure.

You are unbelievably welcome.

And I'm so glad we got to podcast together.

For everyone who's listening, we're back in the studio on Monday, back to the normal schedule.

Jackie and I both will be there.

And I hope you guys enjoyed this crazy week of fun-filled adventures.

That's really what it was.

And I had a great time.

I hope you all enjoyed it.

I really hope you enjoyed it.

On behalf of me and all the toasters, we just want to say thank you for holding it down and giving us such premium content.

And I hope that you have the most amazing weekend.

You know, run to the edge of the cliff and then like get scared and turn around.

No, I'm scared.

No, because honestly, like you put up with so much when I was on tour for two years until we realized like the pandemic actually really helped us in a way kind of cultivate our remote podcasting skills.

So moving forward, like I'm in the process now of booking my shows for the next tour, it's not going to be a problem, which is such a relief.

Yeah, it is such a relief.

Oh, what a relief it is.

Yeah, so go get ready for your weekend.

Have so much fun.

Please send my love to Theo.

Is he coming with you?

No, he's staying at his grandma's and he literally cannot wait because you know he likes Ben's mom like definitely more than he likes me.

Yeah, and I heard Ben's mom invited Tyler C over for dinner.

I didn't hear that.

For Theo.

I didn't hear that.

Theo has a date.

Theo has a date.

No, I actually didn't hear that.

You broke up.

You literally went mute.

I didn't hear anything you said.

Oh, maybe because it was a secret.

I said that.

I feel like it's a sign.

I actually feel like I don't want to know.

Like, I wasn't meant to know that dumb joke.

Like, God was protecting me.

No, no, no.

I know.

Let me just get off my camera.

Okay.

Ben's mom invited Tyler C.

over for dinner.

Yeah, that's why Theo's been like already packing his bags.

He can't wait to get out there.

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I love the secret society that we've started.

And the society, the society season two is happening right here.

Were you doing it without me this week?

No.

Okay, I feel.

I'm so glad.

We gotta end it so that no one's gonna be here.

Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

Nothing happened here.

Bye.