S4 Ep111: Giving Them Lala with Lala Kent: Tuesday, June 22nd, 2021

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Tuesday.

It is rainy and nasty here in New York, but we are here to be the bright balls of sunshine that I know we can be.

I know we can be as well.

It's not raining yet.

Yes, it is.

It is.

When I walked and I was like, drip, drop, drip, drop, like, you know, about to start.

I made it just in time.

Interesting.

So that's why the elephant is not in the room today.

How?

If you,

if you, I didn't mean it like that, but like if you fucking body shame my dog

one more time that's on you by calling the police that's on you that your mind went through

you say it all the time in one way or another

elephant Yeah, not that but you are always complimenting on his body

I'm always complimenting his shizzy commenting on his body and I just want to know as Theo's representative we're done with it.

Okay, we're just done with it.

I want you to know that I don't say anything about his body.

I think he has such a beautiful physique and when I said the elephant in the room it was a figure of speech That I understand actually this time, I don't think you were body shaving, but just as a general rule of thumb, you do do it a lot.

And also, like, justice for elephants, because they're born that way.

So, like, you associating elephantness with being big?

Um, no, actually, I don't follow you.

Oh, look at the tongue.

I'm not following you there because elephants are enormous.

Um, also, like, can you actually not talk about elephants?

Like, I'm still really recovering from this documentary I watched on Saturday, Cher and the Loneliest Elephant.

And it was, like, Kavan has really etched out a special place in my heart.

So, we just need to move on.

Okay, moving on from elevants.

I was just trying to say Theo's not here today because of the rain.

That's all I was trying to fucking say.

I also have some like errands to run today, so I just figured best to be hands-free.

Best to be CO-free.

Unfortunately, I did want to point out that today, Jackie and well, I actually have decided.

This was a Claudia initiative.

Yeah, I feel like we should talk about it because I brought up the gavels today because I don't know what we're going to talk about today.

I just feel like justice is going to need to be served.

You're going to need a lighter.

Yep.

It's not the same.

I know, know, but you need to just put some padding down because that's abrasive.

So let's talk about it because I brought out the gavels.

I've been meaning to do it for a while.

I just feel like they're such a part of our history.

And it is difficult for me to look down and say, award-winning co-host, The Morning Breath.

But we could just scratch that out.

Yeah, whatever.

You can't see from that far away.

Also.

No, but I want to talk about why do you hate the gavels?

Why do I hate the gavels?

I know you do, right?

I don't hate the gavels.

I do.

I just, I didn't plan for any justice to be served up today.

I wasn't feeling that justice bug, but actually, we do have some justice to serve up because we have come full circle on something.

We started the gavels and the justice, and our two figures who we were serving up justice for were David Foster, who I feel has gotten justice, and we've put that one to bed.

When Sarah and Aaron Foster came on this show, justice was completely served.

Like, we could literally have burden these.

But the other person was Chris Humphreys.

Oh, my God.

Justice for Chris Humphreys.

And I feel that with the keeping up with the Kardashian reunion, like he got a little bit of justice.

Like, justice was served.

Do we need to close down the show?

Like we have no like

causes.

We have no causes.

We are not cause-driven anymore.

Like our, that's crazy.

I can't believe you put that together.

That is true.

That is both why we started the show.

Yeah.

But I think that if we put our heads together, there's people out there who deserve justice too.

100%.

And I'm sure we say like their names all the time.

Yeah.

So I just thought, like, I don't know if we're going to need it today, but I just think the gavels should constantly be within reach because they're an integral part of who we are.

We shouldn't be ashamed of where we came from.

I am not ashamed of where we came from whatsoever.

Speaking of that.

I'm just like, they're a little loud.

And so if, as long as you're not like banging on the table, like the gavels can stay.

No promises.

I want to get you like a little gavel bank.

Like the thing.

Okay.

Yo, I need like a matching mallard.

Yes.

Is that what it's called?

It sounds right.

Speaking of things I'm not ashamed of, that segue is like a little delayed.

Today we have an amazing guest on the show today.

We're so excited.

We were talking last week about a guest we were going to have.

Unfortunately, she did have to postpone, but she came back.

Lala Kent from Vanderprump Rules is here.

We interviewed with her via Zoom.

So if you're listening as a podcast, just keep listening.

It'll be at the end of the episode.

And we did record with her on Zoom.

So if you want to watch on YouTube, that's available on our channel now.

So check that out.

I'm very excited.

So exciting.

We were fangirling?

I was fangirling.

Plus, I just read her book.

And so I just felt like so in tune with Lala.

And also, the show hasn't been on in so long that, you know, sometimes your faves come and go.

But like, Lala is someone for me who will always just be like top five favorite people on television.

Yeah, I feel like when we always, like, if we get asked, like, who are ideal guests for your show, like in your top five of like Kelly Clarkson, Kim, Lala like sometimes make it in, makes it in there.

Yeah, like depending on the season and like what's on TV, you know?

So that's how strongly I feel about her.

It was a pleasure to talk to her and see her doing so well.

And she shared like some T about the new season.

Yeah.

So it's a really

but there's always more for her to give of Lala.

So that was really fun.

Check that out.

Also, The Bachelorette was on last night.

I did not watch.

I was busy, you know, I'm in like my Olympic trial phase, so like I had to watch that.

You're so sporty.

And you know who's not sporty?

Other girls.

And I'm not like other girls.

And honestly, I feel like I've been watching a lot of track and field, and I feel so dumb.

Do you know why it's called track and field?

No.

No.

Okay, because like the track.

They run on the track, yeah.

Yeah, is the running part.

And then in the middle of the track is the field, and that's where they do like shot, put, javelin.

So it's like track and field.

That seems pretty self-explanatory.

No, I just like, I just always thought like track and field was the running, but it's all the sports, the ones on the track

and the ones on the field.

I'm sure if you thought about it longer, you would have gotten there.

I also just want to say, like,

we have within our midst, like, an Olympic toaster, Emma Coburn.

And I was watching last night, the track and field.

She didn't run.

She ran on Sunday, and I'm pretty sure she won the whole thing.

She's like, literally, going to be like American Pride.

And she's a toaster.

Yeah.

And like, she's such a big deal in the running industry.

Cause like I was watching

The Runs last night, and like her husband's like a really big time.

Watching the runs.

I had the runs last night and her husband's like a really big time coach and he coached all these girls who are like killing it.

So it's like you love to see toaster energy just like radiating throughout the Olympic industry.

I think toaster energy and Olympic energy are actually quite similar.

They're like super patriotic, super like positive steamy vibes.

Cheering, excitement.

I think like maybe we should make all the Olympians on the flight to Tokyo like listen to episodes of The Worlding Toast.

100%.

Blasted Through the Plains.

Yeah, blasted.

Oh, that's not a good word.

No, like

Blair.

Blair, yeah, blair, blair, blair.

Blair walls.

We have a great show.

We do have a great show.

I just wanted to give a little content update on my end because I've been reading, and last night I finished this book I was reading called The Second Season by Emily Adrian.

It doesn't come up till July, thanks NetGalley.

But I didn't love it.

I think maybe if you're a big fan of basketball, you would like it more.

It's like all about basketball.

So yeah, she's a sports reporter.

Oh, that sounds good.

Yeah, so, but it was too much basketball for me.

Yeah, I have not read a book in like so long.

Well, last night I started Malibu Rising because I was just like, it's time to treat myself.

Yeah.

And Margo is reading it.

Dana read it.

So we're going to do a mini recap on the next Redheads episode.

So if you want to start it, like we could talk about it too.

I know that's just like a book I'm saving.

And I don't want to read it in my sad fucking one-bedroom apartment.

Like, I want to read it on the beach.

Let it transport you.

Like, I guess.

There's actually a few things I like need to read.

And I just am in a rut because I started the new Lauren Weisberger book, stunk.

I started We Were Liars that like everyone on TikTok was like felling over, stunk.

So now I'm just like feeling like I can't win, you know?

I know I like Malibu Rising.

After I read Malibu Rising and then the Redheads book, The Nature of Fragile Things, which I've heard is amazing by Susan Meisner, episode drops next week.

I'm making a pact to myself to like no longer read bad, stupid books.

Like

read the books that are like renowned, top of the list.

Like just read the good books.

Yeah, can I ask you a book?

Even if they take take longer and they're harder, like I want to get more out of it.

There's nothing worse than like wasting your time on a stupid book.

What do you mean by stupid?

Like

I'm not like the, I'm cringing.

The characters are not American Royals.

Yeah, like they're not, the characters are not inspiring.

Like I'm not learning anything.

And I'm just like, it's as if I'm watching like the dumbest reality TV show.

Okay.

You know?

Yeah.

So that's,

I mean, I've been reading serious books, but then what starts to happen happen is like, you don't, if you don't like one of those and you're like, wow, I just want something light that I can breathe through.

I just feel like you don't have to swear off like a whole catalog.

Like, just read what you feel like.

No, I'm not going to swear them off, but I'm going to make a concerted effort to like read better books.

Okay.

You know?

You have to check do better.

Yeah, no, that's, that's what's up for me.

So we have a great show.

I think we should get into it because I want everyone to hear our Lala Kent interview, and I really don't have much else to share.

I've just been like, you know,

in the track and field.

Oh, okay.

Well, then without further ado, did it, do, do, do, where are you?

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Okay, first story.

A-Rod is partying with Ben Affleck's ex Lindsey Schookis.

This is so lame.

This is so sad, you guys.

A-Rod was spotted hanging out with Ben Affleck's ex-Lindsay Shookus at her birthday party on Saturday.

A video obtained by Page 6 reveals.

In the clip, the two are sitting right beside each other at an intimate backyard gathering.

The timing of Shookus and A-Rod's hangout sparks interest given that their respective exes, Affleck and J-Lo, rekindled romance.

Why can't you say Ben Affleck?

I guess I did say Affleck again.

Yeah.

Just something cute about you.

You're not like other girls.

So quirky.

The timing of Shukas and A-Rod's hangout sparks interest, giving their respective exes.

Affleck and J-Lo.

Rekindled romance continues to heat up.

You threw a wrench into me.

Sorry.

I just want to say, like, I went from having, like, being obsessed with A-Rod,

mostly because of his relationship with J-Lo

and like his, you know, being on Shark Tank.

There was just like so much that I loved about him for the last few years.

And in the last six months, I have lost every ounce of respect I have for him.

First of all, like the Madison LaCroix thing, like, don't fuck around on J-Lo.

Respect gone.

Second, some of those photos that came out from his promo for his new male makeup company.

Like, sorry, they did make me laugh.

They just looked weird.

Two, three, this.

Like, this is so fucking losery.

I can't, oh, and, oh my God, I totally forgot.

I was on TikTok yesterday.

Literally, I am obsessed with kids who are on TikTok, whose parents are famous.

It's like, it's my favorite kind of content to follow.

And so I've followed a lot of people.

And so the algorithm knows what to serve me.

And I saw one of A-Rod's daughters and they did such an inappropriate dance.

Like I literally the comments were like, it's not too late to delete this.

Call your therapist.

Like it was really inappropriate.

Like, so there's just a lot of things happening.

Like, I do not fuck with A-Rod anymore.

Like, I actually have zero respect for him.

Yeah, I agree.

Usually when we like see like revenge exes getting together, like sometimes we're here for it.

You know, like when Madison LaCroix and Jay Cutler were

speaking, but just like when you're meant to be so A-less, like there's just things that you are above.

There's lines you don't cross.

And but you did it yeah i just think this is so illusory and i actually have so many thoughts about like jlo and a rod because that company him's that was like his makeup for men company also had a hers and it was j-lo's company was like a hair product and i just saw a commercial for it it's like they're still in business together damn him's and hers or something That sucks.

Yeah.

I mean, J-Lo seems to be living her absolutely.

Sucks for A-Rod.

So yeah, it's just like annoying to be like tethered to someone when you're so clearly moved on, which is so crazy.

How did these two even meet?

Like, she's not really like a traditional celebrity.

She's an SNL producer.

A rep for Page 6 said that there's nothing romantic there, but a rep for, sorry, A-Rod said there's nothing romantic there that they've been friends for 15 years.

What a fucking lie.

What a coincidence.

Yeah, what?

Let me guess.

They met on SNL 15 years ago when he, like, that's just not it.

I mean, that's, that could have happened.

No.

Maybe.

Yeah.

I'm sorry, it doesn't.

I agree.

I agree.

This is so losery.

Like, I just, we keep reporting on stories.

And this is like the segment, like, let's lose more respect for A-Rod.

Like, he's such a loser now, and I thought he was like so cool, and I loved him with J-Love.

It's just so crazy how your opinion of someone can change so drastically so quickly.

Yeah, it's really crazy.

Now, like, when I see a story about him, I'm getting close to like fully china-ing him.

Like, yeah, I think he's such like a media, like, weasel.

Like, I'm just, I'm really done with him.

No, I totally agree and understand.

Thank you so much for being understanding at this time.

You're welcome.

Are you ready for our next story, which is a little streaming news that's really going to shake up the industry?

Netflix and Steven Spielberg have struck a surprising production deal.

In a jaws-dropping turn of events, filmmaker Steven Spielberg has struck a multi-year deal to supply movies for Netflix.

Spielberg's Amblin partners and Netflix announced an agreement in which the studio will make multiple new films for the streaming giant over the course of the agreement.

The Netflix deal has no restrictions regarding budget or genre, Insiders told The Hollywood Reporter.

And this partnership does not impact his relationship with Comcast Corp's Universal Pictures.

This is a surprising deal because he sort of has publicly slammed, you know, these streaming services in a few years.

He said that a few years ago, he said that Netflix movies shouldn't be contenders at the Oscars.

Oh, I guess they still shouldn't then.

I think that's for the best.

Take your own advice, Stephen.

Also, financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Well, so let's use like a point of reference.

How many movies is it?

A couple?

It's a multi-year deal.

Because Adam Sandler, I think, was contracted Netflix to do like five movies and he got paid like 300 million.

And I think Steven Spielberg would get paid more than Adam Sandler.

Yeah, no, I'm sure the money was right.

Yeah, so it's nice to know that even Steven Spielberg can be bought.

Yeah.

You know, because I never thought I had much in common with Steven Spielberg, but here we are.

Here we are.

The thing is, is that I feel like a lot of people will be excited about this.

Like, personally, I like to watch bad movies.

Like, I don't think I've ever even seen a Steven Spielberg movie.

Like, I've never seen Jaws.

What else?

E.T.

Shinner Spielberg.

Oh, that one was good.

Oh, sorry.

I take a bath.

Hold on.

Let me go to Steven Schielberg.

Schiller's List is an incredible film.

So amazing.

Hold on, let me.

Oh, also, I saw a story today that I meant to send to you.

Are we talking about Adrian Brody?

No, but what do you want to say?

Oh, no.

What do you want to say?

Adrian Brody was spotted out, or he's dating.

I can't remember who it was, but it was really shocking.

Give me a name.

Oh, my God.

So he's not dating Georgina Chapman.

Oh, that's who it was.

Oh, he's been dating her.

Has he?

Yeah, we've spoken about that.

No, we haven't.

Because they were at Tribeca Film Festival.

They walked the carpet together, and I was shook.

They have been dating like since the old, since our last studio.

No, yeah,

I didn't know.

I think that's honestly an amazing couple.

Like, you know what?

Justice for Georgina Chapman, like, she has been through a lot.

And Adrian Brody is a stand-up guy, I think.

I did sit next to him at a dinner party once.

That's like my favorite story.

Yeah, no, they've been dating for a while.

I'm glad to see it's going well.

Are you ready for the movies that have been directed by Steven Speaker?

Ready, Player One, never saw it, but I see it everywhere.

The Post.

Oh, no, I didn't see that one.

Oh, no, I didn't see that one either.

Bridge of Spies missed that one, too.

BFG, no, must have missed it.

Lincoln saw it, fell asleep three separate times.

By the way,

by the way.

The nerve.

We are still waiting on an apology from Steven Spielberg for subjecting us to that trash movie.

It was so bad.

We all fell asleep.

Yeah.

Meanwhile, Margo conked the fuck out for the whole movie.

Tintin, never saw it.

Never heard of it.

War Horse.

Must have missed it.

War of the Worlds.

The Terminal.

Indiana Jones.

Heard of it.

Munich.

Never saw it but should see it.

Good story, I think.

Well, a bad story.

Well, yeah, like.

A story that you should know.

Thank you.

Catch me if you can.

Oh, so good.

Leo's best work.

Minority Report.

Never heard of it.

Artificial Intelligence.

Sounds good.

Saving Private Ryan.

Heard of it.

Never seen it.

Yeah, I've heard it's good.

Amistad.

Never seen it.

Basically what I'm trying to say is like, you know, this is great.

I don't know if I'll be personally impacted because I don't really flock towards Steven Spielberg's movie.

Like, I'm not that person.

It's like, gotta go see the new Spielberg film, you know?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Maybe that's something that comes with age.

100%.

Because, you know, I'm really,

who's the guy

who did Midnight in Paris?

Woody Allen.

Oh, sorry.

Ew, never mind.

Yeah, yeah, no.

You're 100% right.

No, that's not him.

Oh, I'm thinking of Martin Scorsese.

Okay.

He did The Irishman.

Yes, and he did our favorite movie, Shutter Island.

Did he?

Right?

I don't know.

By the way, Shutter Island is the movie that started it all here at the Morning Terrace.

Yes, we have Shutter Island to thank for everything.

Yes, Martin Scorsese.

So I feel like I'm more of a Scorsese kind of girl than a Spielberg kind of gal.

But I don't know, maybe I'll just start maturing and flock towards Spielberg.

But I'm happy for all the people who like, you know, the cinephiles who are excited about this Spielberg Netflix deal.

I'm just personally...

Probably not going to see any of them.

Here are some Scorsese movies.

He definitely has some that you've never seen.

Unless Steven Spielberg is directing the new season of Love is Blind, I probably am not going to see it.

Unless Steven Spielberg will be responsible for reviving this society, which, by the way, I think is Spielberg level.

Jackie, I completely agree.

And that should be part of his deal.

I wish Steven Spielberg had like a granddaughter who listened to the toast.

He was like, pops, please.

Please, please, it's such a good idea.

And honestly, like, he could make it brilliant.

He would never do TV.

100%.

Well, it's not TV.

It's like series.

I could see him doing a series.

Like, yeah, like a mini-series, like a Queen's Gambit.

Yeah,

um, okay, you want to talk about Martin Scorsese?

You want to move on?

Sure, because other movies that are Martin Scorsese, or as Lala Ken calls him, Marty, Wolf of Wall Street, seen it,

Aviator, no.

Oh, you never saw that one?

It was good.

The Departed, I never saw it, but I've heard, I've heard good things.

Casino, I think I've seen that.

Yes, of course, I've seen that one.

Robert Jeaniro.

But there's also a lot of others that we haven't seen.

So, yeah, I just think I'm more of a scorsese kind of girl.

Okay, cool, cool.

And by the way, that's Italian.

Scorsee.

Thank you for the pronunciation.

You're welcome.

Are you ready for our next story?

Sure.

Oh, no, I'm not.

You're not?

Because I'm feeling very tired.

Weak.

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T-Pain says that Usher's comments about Auto-Tune made him depressed for four years.

Oh my God, I feel like if I've learned anything in the last couple years, T-Pain is a P-JOM.

Have you ever seen that?

Have you changed his name to T-Jom?

Have you seen this story?

No.

T-Pain says he fell into a four-year-long depression after Usher told him that his use of Auto-Tune wrecked the music industry.

The rapper makes the stunning revelation on the upcoming Netflix series, This Is Pop, saying the statement from his famous friend caused him deep pain.

He said, Usher was my friend.

I really respect Usher.

And he said, I'm going to tell you something, man.

You kind of fucked up music.

And then he was like, yeah, man, you really fucked up music for real singers.

I was like, what did I do?

I came out and I used AutoTune.

I'm literally going to cry.

No, this is so upsetting.

He was like, yeah, you fucked it up.

I'm like, but I used it.

I didn't tell everybody else to start using it.

Is this what you said you wanted to get justice for when you said earlier the show?

Because justice for T.

Payne.

Yes.

This is so mean and disgraceful.

I'm like, okay, Usher, like, not cool.

Not cool.

Oh.

And also, when I think of auto-tune, I mean, of course, T.

Payne's music uses auto-tune, but I wouldn't.

I wouldn't say that he ruined the music industry.

First of all, I wouldn't say that.

Second, I wouldn't really say T.

Payne uses auto-tune.

He kind of uses like a megaphone.

It's like, it's just an effect.

Auto-tune takes a bad voice and makes it a good voice.

Whereas I think as T.

Payne put like a different spin, like it's like a, it's like,

also, like,

I think the issue with auto-tune is when people use it and they're trying to hide the fact that they're using it and they're setting this like unrealistic standard of what things sound like.

Yeah.

But that was never what T-Payne was doing.

Like it's the sound was auto-tune.

And I just want to say, like, that's the T-Pain music of like the early 2000s fucking slaps and a lot of people um like copied that method like in a lot of popular songs like you hear people masking their voice with like a robot type and i think it's cool it just usher would say that that ruined music no it created a new genre yeah like not everyone was blessed with you know the vocal glands of an angel usher some of us have to work hard for it

i think this is so rude and like Like elitist.

Like, okay, good for you and your perfect voice.

Like, some of us are trying to make it out here and we don't have like the god-giving.

Some of us have to get creative.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not mad about this at all.

But people did say I used too much auto-tune on my

song toast.

And how did that make you feel?

Where's the lie?

You know?

Yeah.

It's like FaceTune.

It's like FaceTune.

And honestly, like, what?

You want the song to sound worse just because I'm too proud to use auto-tune?

No.

And I do have a good voice.

Like, I have nothing to hide.

I totally agree.

Hunted down.

We got to have a good time.

Yeah.

That was good.

Tell him.

A thousand hands up to this guy.

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Oh, that sounds good.

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What would you like to do?

That's any day now.

It's today.

Oh,

how exciting.

That actually does sound really good.

Sounds like a VH1 type of show, like the fabulous life of, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm very excited about this.

I think that I'm constantly looking for new content and I'll probably be watching this.

Speaking of the Backstreet Boys, I watched like a podcast interview that AJ McLean did and it was really inspiring.

You know, he's sober since 2001 or something.

Yes, we do.

You knew that too.

Yes, I knew that too.

But you know how and why he got sober?

Like they were out somewhere throwing out the pitch at an MLB game and he like partied the whole night before.

He said he was going through an ounce of cocaine a night and like a half a bottle of Jack Daniels a night.

And he woke up to do the MLB thing.

He was like, I just don't want to go.

And Kevin from the Backstreet Boys, who's not Kevin Federline, right?

Nope.

Okay.

He barged in and like broke down the door and like literally screamed and like said like really like hard truths to AJ McLean and he was like you're dead to me and AJ McLean flew to Phoenix and got into rehab and has been sober ever since.

Wow.

And I think that's why the Backstreet Boys are still together.

Like they're truly a band of brothers.

And they're there for each other.

Literally, even in, you know, when it's not easy.

Wow.

And even Little Me like knew that Kevin was, you know, such a great guy.

Well, Little Me thought Kevin from Backstreet Boys legitimately was Kevin Federline up until a year ago.

Yeah, also, Little You was like on the fence about the whole debate, as you always are.

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Don't come for me.

Thank you for that.

And also, interesting story about A.J.

McLean, what podcast was it?

I don't know.

It just came up on TikTok.

So, like, it was just really, it might, actually, I think it was E.T.

Canada, not a podcast, but he was like sitting in front of a podcast mic.

It was just really inspiring.

So am I.

No, it was like a podcast mic.

Yeah, yeah.

You know a podcast mic.

You're a podcaster.

Yeah, like this one.

Yeah.

Like big and dramatic.

By the way, I have been meaning to say this on the show for weeks.

When you were somewhere and I had like friends and family week, Ben sat next to me and after the show, he's like, I don't know how you sit in front of these mics because they say right here, Heil.

And I'm like, what?

And he's right.

Can you see it on the side?

Yeah, no, I have one right here.

H-E-I-L.

I guess the name of this company is Heil, which is just like not a great name for two Jewish podcasters, but it is what it is.

And I literally never noticed it until Ben pointed it out.

That's really funny.

It was so funny.

Wow, okay, we're ready for our next story.

A little more content news.

Today's just like a day of content, but this is an interesting one.

Sure.

The downfall of Hillsong Church will be explored in a new Discovery Plus docuseries.

Oh, that sounds fabulous.

Called Breaking Hillsong.

Ooh, that's salacious.

I mean, even before the documentary, I have so many questions about what went on in Hillsong.

Like, Justin, Selena, Haley, so many celebrities, so many celebrities, so many celebrities.

Morning Breath, like what happened?

Morning Breath.

But also, I actually know a few people who belong to the church, and they love it.

Like, they're not like cult, like, they just, they go to church, and that's the church they go to, and they love it.

They say it's like really amazing.

So, I'm just curious, like, where it all went wrong.

Yeah, but I also, I mean, I haven't really followed, and I'm sure Breaking Hillsong will explain, but it always kind of seemed like this church is a mega church.

There's so many members, but there was also this celebrity arm that did like the marketing and the PR.

And I think that arm like started to fall apart.

And I think it took the whole thing down.

Really?

You don't think that the congregation is intact?

Oh, I don't know.

It's Breaking Hillsong makes it seem like it's over.

Okay, well, Hillsong's church high-profile challenges will soon play out on the small screen.

Discovery Plus on Monday announced a three-part documentary expose called Breaking Hillsong, which will stream on the service as a limited series.

The project will chronicle the headline-making world of global star-studded megachurch Hillsong and the downfall of its ultra-hip celebrity senior pastor, Carl Lentz, who was once a guest on this show.

This series will feature exclusive interviews with people like Raneen Karim, who claims she had a five-month affair with Lentz, and profiles of current and former members of the church who have come forward en masse to share harrowing stories of the trauma, abuse, financial, and labor exploitation, homophobia, and racism that created a culture of chaos at Hillsong, according to the release.

Oh, man.

I mean, this is actually like a good subject for a documentary.

I feel like recently we've been getting like the documentaries nobody asked for.

Like, you know, there's no real drama.

Like when we were just watching that We Work One, it was like they were just trying so hard to like make drama.

Like, it wasn't that crazy.

No, it really wasn't.

But I actually feel like this will uncover a lot.

And I think this is great for the streaming wars of Discovery Plus.

I haven't been.

I mean, I've been telling you guys, Discovery Plus has got their shit together.

I mean, for someone who's so passionate about it, you didn't give me your password when I asked repeatedly.

So I never got to experience it.

It doesn't sound like me.

No, it actually is you.

Maybe it was another girl.

It's you, but you're not like other girls.

It was you.

But I don't even know where it would start to know what my password is.

I don't even know what email address.

Actually, it's my email address.

Try and like give me like that.

Seems like so much effort.

You know what?

If you want a Discovery Plus, like support.

Why should we be paying for multiple

streamers?

I just did subscribe to Paramount Plus.

I'm kind of over it now.

That's what happens.

I read a study.

It was like so scientific.

You are constantly reading studies.

That the average, so with the streaming wars, it's like how many services will people subscribe for?

Average, what people are doing is seven.

Wow.

But I feel like, and I don't think I'm the only one who does this, like I pay for Paramount Plus,

and then I use like a family Netflix.

Like I, Olivia.

So you game the system, but I would say even, I'm sure.

Most people do that with their family.

I'm sure, but still, like, how many of the platforms are you even interested in going to find a way to get?

So, I think seven, including, like, the way that you steal other people's passwords, you probably use seven of them.

Yeah, the only one I really haven't downloaded or tried was Discovery Plus.

But this might be, no, this might be the thing to get me there.

Yeah, you are really missing out.

Discovery Plus has like the most soothing content.

Well, aside from this, but these days when you open your Apple TV and you like, just you don't know what you're going to watch.

You're going to look for something.

Where do you go?

I really try to avoid that.

Like, I always turn my TV on with purpose.

I'm like, oh, my God, you are so annoying.

Just answer the question.

No, no, no.

Like, I literally don't even do that anymore.

Like, I always know what I'm going to watch next because my contemplate is so full.

Okay, so, all right, let me ask a different question.

For all the streaming services that have come out in the last couple of years, what is your favorite one?

Ooh, I mean, like, as of now, it can change, but

mine's HBO Max.

Oh, I don't really.

I like.

The Big Shot was on there.

Friends is on there.

I loved Hacks.

All Sex in the City that I re-watched recently was on there.

Netflix is actually like literally my least favorite platform.

I don't know if I can give you an answer because I just like know what I'm going to watch.

I search it and I hope that where it is, I already subscribe.

Okay.

I'm so sorry for the disappointing answer.

I mean, like, literally the biggest disappointment of all time.

I'm so sorry.

I'll think about it harder.

I'll have an answer for you next time.

Well, when does this documentary come out?

Because I'm definitely going to be keeping up with the lenses.

The documentary comes out.

It doesn't say.

Cool, cool.

So maybe it just got started.

We'll keep you posted.

We'll keep you abreast.

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i've been getting a lot of complaints about that what i've gotten so much love where do we go from here

i think we have to people say 50 say 50 don't like it and 50 love it we just have to decide how we feel about it okay that's really i'm so glad you brought that up because like some days i'm really into it and some days i'm not oh i think are you into it every day yes like because once we get into it like it it gives the

taste of serotonin that we need.

I'm sorry.

You didn't make it a story, Chloe and Tristan.

Because I didn't want to offend you.

Well, no, because you didn't want me, you didn't want me to say I was right.

I didn't want you to fall asleep on the couch saying how exhausted you are.

I am.

We need to talk about it.

Okay, please talk about it.

Tell the story.

Okay, I mean, here's the...

Officially called the quits, period.

More cheating allegations.

Tana Mojo is involved.

One Tristan, three girls in a room.

Let me read you.

First one at the party.

Yeah, Tana Mojo tweeted something about her birthday party over the weekend.

I didn't choose it because I was scared of your reaction.

No, because now I feel even more

justified in me wanting to cancel them.

Okay.

Okay.

All I know to tweet about my birthday party last night is that Tristan Thompson was one of the first attendees.

Like, babe, wears true.

And someone responded to it in like a mean way, and Chloe liked it.

Some person responded, shut the fuck up.

This screams attention-seeking at its finest because you know damn well that that man is going to make headlines over anything pertaining to women you're a bird don't speak untrue either weird asshole and chloe liked that tweet then later because i just want to say like him being on time for a party like doesn't say anything about anything no no no but then the daily mail like had this story and pictures of chloe of him at i think this same party entering a room with three girls coming out looking all disheveled

maybe they were you know cleaning but I have other ideas.

Maybe they were doing TikTok dances.

Yeah, and that does make one look quite disheveled.

Yeah, it's exhausting.

But then it seems Chloe broke up with him, so maybe she knows something for sure that we yeah, so they released a statement.

And honestly, like, I feel justified in my feelings from before.

Like, of course, we have to report on it, and it is exhausting to keep up with these two, especially after we just, like, saw this keeping up with Kardashians reunion.

These two are a circus.

You're so mean to them.

Am I?

Look what they constantly put us through.

No, you know what?

Not even them.

I can't even blame Chloe, but like, girl, like, how many times are we going to take someone back before they learn?

I don't know.

I feel like we were, like, from the way that we saw it, we all understood why she took him back.

No, and I feel like this last season of Kardashians was really like a PR machine for Tristan because we were all like, oh my God, he's so cute.

He's trying so hard.

Like, we all leave the past in the past, but that is just so crazy that he would go and do that again.

I'm sure Chloe is beside herself.

And done with him.

Period.

So is this the third time?

Or fourth if you count the girl from the No Jumper podcast?

Fourth, if you count her.

I don't know if I'm posted like a cryptic message, you you know.

Of course, she did.

Yeah, I don't know if I believe that, but it's three, maybe four.

Yeah, but that we know of.

Yeah.

And so it's definitely more than that.

Got it.

I can't believe you didn't choose that.

Like, while you're looking out for me, like, no, when I heard the news yesterday, I think Zach told me, I was like, okay, cool.

Like, we're not talking about it.

No, okay, cool.

It's just like irrelevant at this point.

Like, it's one of those things you hear about so much about someone, like, you just don't care anymore.

You lose interest.

Yeah, you really do.

We're fatigued.

But I just wanted to, the real reason I brought this out today.

Justice for you.

Justice for me.

Like, I, and justice for everyone who's tired of being tired.

And I tried to give you justice, like, in the form of

exhausting.

But, like, we are the millennial, like, pop culture morning show, and that's literally the only thing that happened yesterday.

For sure.

So, the headline, they broke up, it's done.

I think it's actually done this time.

I hope so.

Yeah, I've moved on.

Yeah, and I think maybe, like, Chloe needs to start

dating different types of people.

Like, maybe someone who's not famous.

No, I totally agree.

Like that episode where MJ and Chris, like that guy from Jick Sporting Goods?

Yeah, they go like looking for cute guys for Chloe, and they found so many who would have been like, she really should try going out with someone.

Not famous, regular job.

Like that guy from Dick Sporting Good was Loki Hot and he was a trainer.

And Chloe's always looking for new trainers.

Yeah, and

like MJ said, she needs an accountant.

Yeah.

MJ knows what's up.

She needs a businessman bow.

Yeah, for sure.

Okay, now it's time for the final story.

It's the final

the final story.

You're so off here.

I'm

not sure.

No, I know.

Okay, okay.

I was still on the 8th.

Go.

Are you going to yell at me?

You can't rush art.

You can't rush art.

Now I don't feel safe.

No, go, go.

No, no, no.

It's fine.

Forget it.

It's the fucking time.

No, no, no, okay.

Okay.

No, do it.

Do it.

Do it.

Do it.

Nobody wants to hear me sing.

Yes, they do.

Oh, don't say that.

Suddenly, she's shot.

I'm not good enough.

Come on.

Stop with the beats, okay?

Stunning.

Thank you.

Okay, well, the fifth and final story is a little science news because scientists say that they found a solution for the hiccups.

Enough with these scientists.

Why don't you give us real solutions, you know?

I don't know.

I don't know.

How to be, you know, how to lose weight with doing anything.

Like, that is some valuable science.

Honestly, I consider this valuable science.

And maybe if you suffered from the hiccups, you would know what it's like to value this piece of science.

But I don't.

No, I've gotten hiccups.

Like, it's definitely annoying.

It's not like a, you know, life-urgent, like...

No, it's like the most annoying thing to have hiccups.

But like, which scientists?

Like, what else should these scientists be working on?

I feel like there's more pressing issues.

There's a number of things that they should be working on, but instead

they've invented a straw that apparently cures the hiccups.

Okay, wait, let me get this straight.

Straw?

It's a straw.

Is it metal?

Oh, unclear.

Because it looks like it might be of the same.

Adrian Brody.

No.

Adrian Grignet did not put his neck on the line just for scientists to invent a new necromancy.

No, it's definitely not.

It's not disposable.

Like, it's something that you would use

multiple multiple times.

Okay.

So, here's the thinking.

When you get hiccups, the diaphragm and the intercostal muscles suddenly contract.

The subsequent abrupt intake of air causes the opening between the vocal folds, known as the glottis, to shut, resulting in a hiccup sound, often to the embarrassment of the afflicted and the amusement of others.

Who wrote this article?

The Guardian.

But while home remedies abound, a team of scientists say they have come up with a new answer called the Forced Inspiratory Suction and Swallow Tool, the F-I-S-S-T, and patented as Hickaway.

It's $14.

It's a plastic device and it's a rigid L-shaped straw that has a mouthpiece at one end and an adjustable cap with the pressure valve in the form of a small hole at the other.

Hiccumping people place the device into a glass of water and use it to sip.

That's it?

Yeah.

I'm getting one.

No, I mean like it's good.

I'm getting one.

This is not an ad.

I just feel like

the scientists should kind of be like refocusing on more, you know, important issues.

Like there's so much wrong in the world, you know, medical, scientific, climate, like, there's all these things.

And like, these guys are like, we made a strong, you know?

No, no, I think these are small wins.

Like, you were just at dinner with the snatcher the other night and she had the hiccups.

Yeah.

And like, honestly, it was so funny.

I never laughed so hard in my life.

So, like, why would the scientists want to take that away from us?

No, I think the scientists are asking us.

The scientists are protecting those who have, like, there's, okay, for the first few, they're funny, but then they are so annoying.

They are.

They're so annoying and they hurt.

You know, I'm just being negative.

Like, great, this is awesome.

But, like, it took us until 2021 to solve the hiccups.

I mean, some people think they have the solution and this isn't you know 100 but i will be trying it yeah honestly all these like you know drink water upside down someone has to scare you hold your breath for eight seconds none of that shit works like they just go away no you just have to like go to sleep yeah no like you just have to

like

like stop no yeah no because then like they go away and you're like oh my god it worked you scared me no it's just like the time was up for the hiccups you know yeah So those are the fast side stories.

Feel as though you definitely needed to know them.

You definitely, definitely did.

And I learned a lot.

Like Adrian Brody and Georgina Chapman are dating.

Like I can't get over that.

And they've been dating.

For years.

That's crazy to me.

Mm-hmm.

So yeah.

Anything else you want to say before we wrap up our show?

No.

I mean, enjoy our interview with Lala.

It was such a fun one to record.

And we will see you tomorrow for Hump Day.

And I think Du will be here.

Yeah, he will.

I really do.

And we've got deer toasters tomorrow.

So tomorrow's going to be a very exciting day.

Thank you so much for spending your morning with us.

And I think one of the real house eyes is on tonight, right?

Oh, yeah.

I want to say New York, Beverly Hills, whatever, whatever it is, we'll be watching it.

Thank you so much for listening to the, oh, it's New York.

Okay.

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Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

We have such an exciting guest of honor today.

We are joined by Lala Kent who perhaps has had the busiest, most productive year of any of us.

Yeah.

She had a baby.

She wrote a book.

She started a baby line.

Now you're back filming Vanderpump Rules.

Hi Lala.

How are you?

Hi my loves.

I'm so good.

How are you?

We're so excited to give them Lala.

Before we dive in, can we get a definition?

What does that that entail, giving la la?

Well, so originally, give them la la when I exited the show season five and people were, you know, sending me messages being like, why did you leave?

And so I was like, give the people what they want, give them la la.

So it came from a very like egotistical

place.

As I got older, and I like to say as I matured and evolved, it became something where it was more of like, just be who you are and give them who you are and do it unapologetically.

So it took on a whole different meaning.

Definitely.

Well, we just had a chance to read your book, Give Them Lala, which wherein you do give us a lot of Lala and a lot of Lauren.

And I felt like the book was so heartwarming, first of all, so congratulations on writing a really wonderful memoir.

It's so nice to hear, like as someone, two people who are such big fans of yours, it's so nice to see every different side of you.

And we've loved you at your, you know, your man made out with my friend.

We've loved you through it all, but to see you at this place in your life, it's it must be, you must feel such peace right now.

I really do.

And the reason I decided to write the book was it wasn't because I thought that my story was just so interesting that it had to be told.

It was obviously that was a part of it because you want people to be entertained when they're reading your book.

But it was

really just me wanting to purge a lot.

And, you know, when you enter reality TV and you you only see, you know, an hour episode for however many weeks, it

doesn't always make sense why someone is the way they have turned out to be.

Like, what did they go through in their little lifetime that made them like want to clap back?

Yeah.

So.

For me, it was like getting rid of the scarlet letter on my chest when it came to how my fiancé and I came to be and really just why I kind of react the way that I do.

And I was hoping that that would be relatable for people and for people to feel less alone and less hard on themselves.

Yeah, no, that definitely comes through.

Does it feel like this weight has been lifted off your shoulders now that you've shared your story?

I think it was like on the last page where you said, you know, this book is meant to like answer your questions and that is it.

I'm like, here are your answers, and you can refer to the book.

So is it nice to have that weight off of you?

It's so nice.

And

strangely, going into this season of Vanderpump Rules, I've actually felt so different about things where

before it was like I would think about every single move that I was making and then beat myself up for things.

And once, you know, I wrote this book and kind of told my story, this year going into filming and kind of just my day-to-day life.

It's like, I don't need to explain this to you.

Like things happen.

Life isn't perfect.

I don't really need to explain why this, that, and the other happened.

It's probably going to happen again.

And I'm okay with that.

Yeah.

And don't you think that's also just kind of like a growth part of becoming a mom now?

It's like you don't sweat so much, the small stuff.

Oh, absolutely.

I, and it's, I don't want to say that I don't care about these little things that may happen in life because I definitely am a human being and I'm affected.

You know, when I'm clapping back at someone, I definitely don't go home and say, oh, I'm so glad I said that.

I'm going to sleep great tonight.

You know,

I'm still affected.

But as long when I come home, it's like I have this little healthy human being and

the rest of the stuff will work itself out.

Yeah, it puts everything in perspective, I imagine.

I don't have a child, but yeah.

How has it been filming this season?

Now everyone, all the Vanderbabies are running around.

Has that really changed what we can expect from the show this season?

You know, I want to say that it will, but kind of not.

We're still just as like

crazy.

And I, at the beginning, before we started filming, people would ask after the show got picked up, what can we expect from this season of Vanderpump?

And, you know, I really didn't know because the dynamics are different.

You know, we've lost a part of the show, which, you know, just because our friends were let go from the show, we're still very much involved.

Those, just because they're not on a show doesn't mean they're not in our, in our day-to-day lives.

So, and, and those people that were, were let go, they weren't just like little flimsy cast members.

Those people brought it every episode.

So that I was worried about.

And then obviously becoming a mom, I'm like, am I just going to sob every episode?

Which I probably do.

It's in the state of California, you can only film a baby of my baby's age and Sheena's baby's age for 20 minutes and then they've got to go bye-bye.

Oh.

And if there's not a teacher, I know, I'm like, what are they learning?

I don't understand.

She doesn't even know what's going on, but they have to have a teacher and also a nurse on location.

So if those people are not available, then the babies can't make an appearance at all.

So I don't know how much you'll really see of ocean in summer.

Oh, that's so interesting.

Is it like weird?

Because like Jackie said, we were actually just talking about this earlier.

Like people who had babies in quarantine, like really made the most of this year.

Like it wasn't a waste of a year for you.

Like you literally became a mom, you started a family and you're, you go from, you know, spending every waking moment with your child to then having to go back to work and filming.

And did you struggle with that at all?

Oh, yeah, I still struggle with it.

It's there are days where my schedule is jam-packed and excuse me, with, you know, filming or whatever little things that I need to get done during the day.

And then there are days that are, you know, a little bit more relaxed that I can spend every waking moment with her.

But the days that we have to leave for an entire day, it's definitely difficult.

But I have had the luxury of, I've had a night nurse, so I get to kind of pass her off and get a good night's sleep.

And during the day, I have someone come in to watch her, which, you know, is again, a luxury.

But

I'm very envious of Sheena, who gets to leave her baby with her, her mama.

Oh, yeah, that's nice.

Yeah,

it is nice.

So

it's definitely a struggle leaving your kid behind, but every person who has to be a working mom has to do it.

So it is what it is.

Yeah.

You also launched Give Them Lala Baby, which is so exciting and so cute.

What made you want to start that?

My best friend from back home in Utah, our moms had been friends since junior high, and then we were born a year apart.

So she had reached out and said, I really want to start a baby line.

She already has one.

And she said, I want to do another one with you.

And I was like, well, I don't have kids, so it wouldn't make much sense.

And then, when I found out I was pregnant and we knew the ocean was healthy and happy, I was like, Let's start it.

And I want to launch like not long after she arrives onto this planet.

So, that was kind of what was behind it.

And also, it's so fun to play dress-up with babies.

I was like, Why not be able to dress her up in my own stuff?

And do you share bottles with the baby?

I do not because she's not on formula.

She's on the boob.

But when she does have a bubba, I'm like, this is liquid gold.

I can't take this from her.

I feel like you were foreshadowing, you know, in those scenes, what was to come for you.

And it was really beautiful.

I love that you say that.

I think people watched that scene.

They were like, this bitch needs massive amounts of therapy to

understand why she sucks on a bottle.

But no, I actually, can I tell you, once I gave up alcohol, my anxiety dropped so much.

I can imagine.

So, yeah, like the Bubba was not even needed much anymore.

So, now just the baby has the bottle.

Yeah, I think that's actually been one of my favorite parts about watching your journey on the show because you've always been like so fun and so real.

And, you know, your man made out with my friend catchphrases.

But then I feel like we saw a really earnest side to you.

And I think the way you spoke about getting sober and how you really wanted to, you know, bring James on that journey with you is just like a totally different side of you and i'm curious if your experience filming has been easier harder because it is a show like about drinking like well not about drinking but about friends who drink and i'm curious if it's been made more difficult or easier for you because i can imagine how many you know panic attacks you have when you drink on television and then wake up the next morning what did i say what did i do oh i love that you said that because that's exactly what would happen when i was drinking it was like okay well that made for great television but now i have to deal with these feelings the next morning of why did I say that?

Did I say it in the way that I remember?

And now I can go and, and I always thought once I gave up alcohol, I was very worried.

I even talked to producers, like, I don't even know that I'll be interesting anymore for you guys.

And I guess the crazy is just in my veins because

I still was popping off just as much without the alcohol.

But now I can go home and kind of, you know, leave that part behind and know this is exactly what happened and how it

happened there's nothing i can do about it and we got to move on so that part the anxiety of oh my god what did i do and say is definitely not as heavy that's delightful yeah because i get that and i don't even film a tv show i just like yell at everyone i love that you're my type of then yeah so you can just walk around yelling at everybody and The best part about it is when I get like a call time in the morning, I know like I can arrive and, you know, know where I am in that moment before it was like, wake up, hit the bottle again, because how do you cure a hangover?

You have like a lot of hair of the dog.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I think there's like this feeling amongst the fans of the show that there's like a little bit of concern about the upcoming season because we've lost so many cast members.

Then there was COVID.

You guys weren't filming.

People are like, is the show even coming back?

Tell us, can you calm our nerves a little bit?

About what to, like, if it's going to be good?

Yeah, there's a a lot of questions floating around.

People thought the show was even going to be canceled.

No, I know.

And we were kind of in that same boat with you guys.

We also were sitting here.

I think that we found out we were being picked up, like maybe the day before it was actually released to the public that we were being picked up.

We were kind of in, we're so in the dark.

So I was also worried.

I'm like, can we even make a good television show?

And, you know, day one, it was like, oh my gosh, we can still make a great television show.

It's,

we're back to the roots of Vanderpump rules.

I think season eight, everything got a little bit muddy.

It was like, who are these random people that we're supposed to be invested in?

You know, and I'll probably be killed for saying this, but I'm going to say it.

I was very uninterested in last season.

You know, like it was hard for me to get through an episode.

I'm like, who is this?

person that's dating so-and-so don't care like what's happening with witches of wheel

what's going on with jackson tom sandoval i want to know um and this year it's very different

like i said we're back to the roots of the show and it's deep-rooted issues that people have and it's it's been it's been crazy it really has love to hear that crazy i show up to filming and i'm like i was not expecting any of this to happen yeah well you know i feel like your evolution on the show is like you've really just come such a long way and i can really really see you and i've said this a million times i could really see you like not that far down the road becoming a real housewife of Beverly Hills.

I just feel like that's kind of like the space you're in in your life now.

And like you are a housewife.

You do live in LA.

Like I feel like it's not that far off.

Is that something you would ever do?

I definitely would do, of course, who wouldn't want to become a housewife?

I mean, it's a completely different level.

But I think right now.

I'm still a little bit too young for the space.

You know, I have a brand new baby.

I think maybe down the line i would be into it but then i watch the show you guys and those bitches don't play no not at all and i'm like i'm tough in the space i'm in but would i be as tough in that space because they don't hold back and it's it's real life stuff that they're talking about not that that we don't but our show is very much like i don't want to say a watered down version but i mean no one's husband is going to prison exactly

you said it yeah

Well, speaking of housewives, we saw you on Salt Lake City because you're from Utah.

Did you watch the whole season of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City?

Do you think it was a good representation of your state?

And we loved seeing it.

It was a treat.

Oh, that makes me so happy.

I do.

I loved it.

And people have such,

they think of Utah and they're like, that's a weird place where it's like super white, which it is.

more so than, you know, not.

So I get that.

But it reminded me of the Utah that I know, people struggling in the Mormon church and wanting to be done with it.

Like these women fucking brought it.

And like, that's the Utah I know.

There's a little bit of crazy out there and it makes for great TV.

And it's not so like, it's not as cookie cutter where I'm from, where as people think it is, where it's like people wake up, they go to church, boring.

They really did a great job.

I watched every episode.

And I hear that this next season is insane, you guys.

It should be pretty twisted with, you know, the SBI and everything.

Oh, no.

And I've heard that they're like in it.

I think it's going to be one of the best seasons of the franchise.

Yeah.

I think so, too.

It's like they really, it was a great show.

And then this whole Jen Shaw thing, like, kind of brought it to the next level.

It did.

And, you know, Jen Shaw, she's so sweet.

And I, I walked into filming and it was like a high school reunion.

It was like all of my friends that I went to school with were were like her cousins or her brother and i'm like this is so crazy because i just expected right i just expected to walk in and be like i'm from utah you're from utah no i like knew these people from back in the day so when i saw those headlines about gensha i was like how could this be no it's crazy yeah crazy wow well congrats on the book everyone can pick it up it's called give them la la and she's looking sickening on the front and the back so check it out vanaprop rules will be back any minute now.

We really can't wait.

Thank you so much for being here.

Congrats on the book.

Congrats on becoming a mom.

And we're just so excited to see where life takes you next.

We really are.

Thank you so much for having me.

I always love hanging out with you guys.

So thank you so much.

Thank you guys for listening.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Bye.