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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Thursday and good morning, Jackie.

Good morning, Claudia.

Happy Thursday.

That feels like a Tuesday.

Wow, acknowledge this space.

It's so rare to not only get a short week, but a three-day one for us at that.

It's just such a beautiful time, you know, even though it's raining here in New York, whatever, on the way down from the weekend.

It's just important to acknowledge these spaces.

I just feel like we had a three-day weekend, but most people had a four-day work week this week.

And I think that what we're learning is that this is how life was meant to be lived.

And I think it's like you still get so much done in a four-day work week, arguably more.

Arguably more.

I mean, we dropped a Redheads episode this morning that was so good.

We recorded last night about the book American Duchess.

Truckers for the Redheads are coming out.

The sirens are blaring because we had such a great conversation about the book.

I think all of us liked the book even more after talking about it.

We were sharing like all of the interesting historical factoids that we learned from the book.

So even if you didn't read the book, I think you could listen to the episode.

But if you're struggling to get through the book, I saw some comments in the Redheads Facebook group.

Keep going.

Just keep going.

I know it can lull, but you want to get to the end.

And then I think once you see the big picture, you'll really like it.

Do you think you're only saying that because the book was your selection?

Like, I would say that about if I chose a book, but if someone else was like, I'm like, no, I'm not finishing this.

No, because the other girls all said like they would never have read a book like this, but they're so glad that they did.

Okay.

And if they had picked it up and been like, oh, no, like at, you know, 10% be like, this is not for me.

But they had to finish it.

And I think because when you when you do finish it, you have such an appreciation for the story, for the woman.

And then you listen to the episode and it was such a fun one.

So the redheads, it's never too late to join.

And I would argue you should join on this book.

If you love Downton Abbey, if you love Bridgerton, this is a book for you.

I think there's no better time to become a Redhead than at the tail end of a four-day work week.

I think that's like a famous proverb, correct?

And especially like as we're heading into summer, you need a bee tree.

I don't know what you like to read on the beach, but...

There's something for everyone ever at the Redheads.

There's something for everyone.

Rebecca just announced her new book choice, and it looks really good, has an amazing rating on Goodreads.

So we're just chugging along here at the Redheads.

Chugging along, chugging along.

I'm chugging along as well, even though I almost got taken out last night by a migraine.

I went to the Nick Game, which is so fun i haven't been in so long but i really forgot that like literally every time i've ever been to a nick game i get a migraine it's like a migraine minefield it's like it's probably because of the noise bright lights strobe lights so much noise and like because it was a playoff game like it was so loud i left with the worst motherfucking migraine of my life but it was worth it because first of all Me and Ben made it on TV and not even MSG local.

We made it on TNT, NBA on TNT, and we were looking, we were looking okay.

Second, I had amazing chicken fingers.

Like, chicken fingers at Madison Square Garden just hit different.

They're so good.

And three, like, Ben was so happy that I finally agreed to go to a game with him.

So, like, we all won, except for the Knicks.

They obviously lost and put themselves out of the

conference.

Yeah.

But a good time was had by all.

There were so many celebrities at the game.

Like, literally, I've never seen, they always do like celebrity row.

Yeah.

And it's like always Tracy Morgan, Marishka Hargate, and like one other person.

But Tracy Morgan was there.

Marishka Hargate and Peter Herman were there.

And also last night was the series finale of Younger.

Oh, wow.

So don't spoil it if you've seen it, but I'm going to go home and watch it.

I watched last week's episode yesterday.

I'm so behind.

It's honestly, usually when a show I like ends, I get really sad.

But after watching this season, it's certainly time to get time to go.

Yeah.

And did you tell Peter that when you saw him?

No, but like, honestly, I kept thinking, I was kind of like ish close to him.

I'm like, if I run into him, I'm definitely going to be like, I don't know if you remember me, but like you were on my podcast and we fell in love.

Yeah.

Maybe I wouldn't say that in front of Marishka, though.

Yeah.

I think he would remember.

Chris Rock was there.

Okay.

So many like Jets, former baseball players.

The people were going nuts.

I had no idea who they were.

They didn't put her on the screen, but Emily Radikowski was there.

Okay.

Michael J.

Fox, obviously.

And it's actually, well, never mind.

I'm taking back what I said.

And some other guy from the Sopranos who I didn't know, but I think his name was Michael and everyone like went wild.

It was just, I was thinking, like, do other basketball teams have this many celebrities at their games?

Like, no.

Well, it had to be in a star-filled city.

So I'm sure in L.A., yeah.

Atlanta, yeah.

Yeah.

Like even a Milwaukee Bucks game.

Like, there's no celebs.

There might be one or two, maybe some locals, maybe they're playing a team.

Maybe someone's in town.

Yeah.

It just depends.

But New York is a star-filled town.

It was like because we live here.

Because we live here, yeah.

It was like a celebrity row presented by Douglas Elleman, like every single time out.

I'm like, there's another celebrity.

Like it was crazy.

It was so fun.

That's so fun.

I'm so glad that you went.

Yeah, no, it was a good time.

A good time was had by most.

Except for obviously like the people playing for the Knicks.

Very sad for them.

Shocking that this team, I know I'm no basketball analyst, but shocking this team even made the playoffs.

Like, no offense, like, what were they doing?

And now that I know all about it, like, just as for Julius Randall, so cute, by the way, like, kind of loved him.

Um,

like, people were upset with him because he's like the star player, but like, it's a team sport.

Like, he can't do everything.

He had nine turnovers.

Okay, he also was the only one who made, like, any points.

Like, and that's literally the only thing that matters.

It's how you win a game.

So, it was just, like, frustrating.

I don't understand how this band of yellow belly losers made the playoffs because they were so bad.

Like, it was like embarrassing to like be a part of this franchise, be wearing a jersey.

Well, imagine how your husband feels.

Oh, my God.

And I was trying to, like, give him, you know, some will to live because Ben has been a Knicks fan for so long.

They haven't made the playoffs in eight years.

And of course, they weren't going to make it past this round.

Like,

Trey Young and

Bogdanovich, like, they were so good.

Like, they literally couldn't miss.

And so I'm like, Ben, we were never making it out of this round, like, a lie, but you should just be grateful that one, you got the experience, the memories.

The memories.

And Ben is the only person I know.

There were five playoffs games, three of them were in New York, and Ben went to every single one of them.

So, like, you got to experience wins, you got to experience losses.

Like, that's just a part of life.

And honestly, that's just a part of being a Knicks player.

I'm a Knicks fan.

So, like, just be grateful.

Yeah, no, it seemed like it was a fun time for the fans and like be glad with what you got.

Yeah, be happy with what you got.

And it was literally like a Jewish

high school reunion.

Like, literally, every Jewish person I'd ever met was at the Knicks game.

It's literally like it should be sponsored by Yeshiva University.

Like, it was literally like Jew Central.

Nice.

Yeah.

Well, that's really fun.

Glad that you did that.

Yeah.

I mean, it was annoying because I got home late and then I talked to Beverly Hills, but it was worth it because it was such a good episode.

It was such a good episode.

I had such a busy, hectic day yesterday because of all my reading that I had to catch up on and then doing the outline for the episode and recording with the girls, but it was, it all turned out so great.

And

I honestly like miss the book.

Like, oh.

You know,

the feeling.

Of course.

So, Redhead.

Did you dream about it?

Did I dream about it?

I did the night before when I was in the middle of the book.

But the new episode is out now.

When we're done here, head over there, check it out.

You know, poke around on the Redheads, see what books are out there.

Like, you're probably thinking, no, I don't read.

Like, it's not for me.

But, like, why don't you read?

That is a great question.

One in which I used to ask very frequently.

You could read.

Like, just try it.

Yeah, even though I'm on like a downward spiral now, I like started like four books in a row that I just hate.

Me too.

We were liars sucks.

It happens sometimes.

It's part of the journey.

So annoying.

You'll find a book that hits, we're going to read Malibu Rising Next, not for Redheads, just like you and I are gonna read it.

And so I think that's gonna be great.

Me too.

That's our girl, Taylor Jenkins Reed.

I'm thinking of like taking like a relaxing weekend.

I say that now, but I really just like don't want to be hungover.

I hear you, my friends.

I know.

So what?

I think I need it like for my soul.

No, it's so nice.

I know that you're not going to stick to it.

No.

But it's nice that that's what you want.

Well, I am hosting Shabbat dinner at my house, so I really can't do anything Friday night.

So I'm 50% of the way there.

Unless I get drunk at Shabbat, but.

Never know.

Anything can happen.

Don't count out.

You're meant to get drunk at Shabbat.

I'm just like meant to get drunk, period, you know?

Where's the weirdest place you've ever been drunk?

I don't know.

Me neither.

I didn't have an answer.

I just was like wondering if you had one.

I hadn't, I haven't thought about it long enough.

I'm sure there's a weird answer.

Yeah, I think like Ben's been drunk at a funeral, which is like so disrespectful.

Well, it depends if it's like, it depends on the culture.

That's true.

Sometimes it's immensely weird.

It wasn't a celebration of life.

It was like a full-blown funeral.

Like a tragic accident, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, cool.

That's my husband.

Okay, well, I think we should get into everything because we have a lot to discuss.

So without further ado, to do to do, where are you?

It's raining today, so he did not come into work.

Must be nice for him.

He's seeing a mental health day.

Like, the rain is just like kind of gets to him.

The rain in Spain flies mainly on Spain.

Mainly, though.

Not completely.

Mainly.

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Okay, first story: big news: David Spade will be guest hosting Bachelor in Paradise amid Chris Harrison's break from the franchise, says a source.

Spade will be one of the celebrities in a rotating roster of guest hosts for the seventh season of the ABC dating show.

A source confirms to people.

Representatives for ABC and Warner Brothers did not immediately respond to people's requests for comment.

So let's discuss David Spade in general and then also

a rotating, what is this, Jeopardy?

Right.

And just the fact that like Chris Harrison's return is being postponed even more.

Yeah, and I don't know how he comes back.

The more it gets postponed, the weirder it is when he comes back.

Yeah, and so I feel like David Spade is great.

He's super funny.

The thing is, though, with the hosting, and I feel like we talk about this a lot, like when you're a talk show host or when you host a show and why Chris Harrison was so successful at it, is because Chris Harrison is literally like a big nothing burger.

He's like boring.

He doesn't do or say anything funny.

And that's the point of the job.

You carry the show along.

It's not about you.

It's about the contestants.

And I feel like David Spade is so funny, so famous that like

you can't help but make it about you because you're just that kind of star.

And comedians always want to like, you know, crack a joke when honestly, it's not the point of the job.

So we'll see how it turns out.

But I think like having celebrities come in is actually not a great idea because.

That's just not the point of the role.

Yeah, I just feel like one, on the one hand, if you had asked me who's going going to be the next host and it's not going to be Chris Harrison, I would have said Wells.

Yes.

So that feels like a weird decision.

And then they could have bumped up another cast member.

They're like literally promoting.

So many bachelor contestants like go on to be hosts.

So like there are a lot of people who could have auditioned for this job within the community because I do think having a celebrity like takes away from like the

bubble of bachelor life, but I also think the show is floundering and they are so desperate and they're like, okay, we don't need to protect the integrity of this bachelor bubble.

We need viewers, right?

And so, I think they saw this as an opportunity, obviously, to like make people what are people talking about right now, like the Chris Harrison of it all, which is like this big scandal that does not make Chris or the franchise look very good.

So, they're just trying to like deflect big celebrity.

I get it, I agree with you.

I think this is like a not a good sign because the bachelor has always been loved by celebrities, but always protected the integrity of the community of Bachelor Nation.

And while this will be probably fun and funny, it's just different, and I feel like it's not a good sign.

Yeah, but Bachelor in Paradise is a very funny, silly show.

So

it's not like it's David Smith hosting The Bachelor.

So we shall see.

It's just weird.

Like, I'm not.

It is weird, but I do, I did plan on watching Bachelor in Paradise because it is better.

And

that's it for me.

No Bachelorette.

Oh, definitely not watching Katie's season.

Katie's season comes first.

Yeah.

Like is premiering soon.

So it's premiering next week.

Like we get a break.

We get a break, but I will be watching Bachelor in Paradise.

But if you're looking for Katie's season commentary, someone to make fun of it endlessly, The Snatchler will be returning to Toast News Network.

She's back for the new season, and it'll be dropping every week.

Nobody likes a roast quite like the Snatcher.

She literally posted on her Instagram today, like, not looking forward to The Bachelor premiering next week, but so excited to get The Snatcher back just so I can see Nicole and we can make fun of Katie.

Oh my God.

Yeah, like

it's going to be harsh season over at The Snatcheler.

Oh, we love harsh season.

We do.

And then also the second part of this whole conversation is like, let's discuss the fact that Chris Harrison is not returning.

Like,

Ever?

Question mark?

Yet again, I don't know.

I don't know how he returns after this.

I feel like he doesn't even want to.

But what is he going to?

What is he going to do for work?

I don't think he needs to work, jealous.

Yeah.

I wonder if he'll still have an executive producer credit on the show.

For sure.

I think he's still probably making money and will continue to make money off of the show.

Yeah.

I don't know, like, what his finances are, but I feel like he's totally fine.

Remember when he wrote a book, like a fictional book?

Yeah, like Nicholas Sparks.

Yeah.

I'm sure he's fine, but like for the rest of his life.

I don't know.

I mean, he went from having like the most ideal job in the country, like very little work, not year-round, universally loved and adored by literally every human being.

He went from that to literally being like the most divisive character in all of pop culture.

Like an extremely unemployed.

Unemployable.

Yeah.

100%.

Yeah.

100%.

So we've been there, Chris.

It gets better.

And if you want to start a podcast,

Toast News Network is always hiring.

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We would literally love to have you because if you're canceled, then you're for TNN.

Then you are for TNN.

Okay, you ready for our next story, little wine news?

Wine news?

Yes, Bethany Franco is launching Forever Young Wine after her skinny girl's success.

Yes, I saw this TikTok where she announced it.

and I feel like Bethany's had a lot of success, but none of it has been on TikTok.

And

whoever she hired for Big Shot, I won't spoil it, it's not helping her with the TikTok.

And she either needs to have a complete 360 because it's ruining her brand or just get rid of it completely.

Like on Big Shot, they could barely wrap their heads around Instagram.

A photo shoot.

Instagram and Twitter.

Yeah.

They didn't even introduce TikTok into the mix.

It's clear.

They need Brynn doing the TikTok.

No, no, I believe that she is.

That's literally what I'm saying because they're like all from her house in the Hamptons.

And I'm I'm sure it's just like her and Bryn in the house.

I don't think her assistant is like staying with her, and Bryn is recording the content.

Okay.

Well, her latest spirit follows the success of her skinny girl branded products.

She said, can lightning sh in a bottle strike twice?

I cracked the code in the spirits business once before.

My little cocktail baby was the fastest growing liquor brand in history at the time.

I paved the way for many other media personalities to launch their own cocktail brands and created a new category.

Now she's launching Forever Wine as superb, next level, and elevated, saying that with every sip you will understand why I entered back into this space.

She definitely created a new category.

Like I don't think you can really speak about Skinny Girl without giving kudos to that.

And it's true, like lightning did strike and I just don't see it striking twice.

Well she forever young wine is currently available in Malbec, Cabernet, Sauvignon, and Sauvignon Blanc with the Rose coming soon.

And I think if I ever see it, I'm going to try it.

Yeah, of course.

Can you tell me about what makes the company special?

Or it's just like a wine company?

It's just a wine company, and I think that it's like she's saying it's really good wine.

I don't know, I feel like now the space is very crowded, it's crowded.

I don't know, it's interesting, it's an interesting play, yeah.

And it's interesting to see, like,

of course, Skinny Girl was successful for a multitude of reasons.

It was a great idea, it was low-calorie, it had great marketing, but the show was so integral in the success, you can't deny that.

And now she's not on TV, yeah.

So, I wonder what that means for the success of this new company.

Right, but

she has the built-in platform already.

So I think

I'll be surprised.

Just like I was surprised when you said that Skinny Girl Shapewear is their biggest

vertical.

I would never have guessed that.

So I think Ethan has like business things happening that we don't see.

Yeah.

Same.

But I do think that

still to this day, like her biggest hit was the skinny girl cocktail.

Yeah, because it's sold.

Right.

So we'll see.

but very interesting.

Very interesting.

Okay, next story.

Megan, Markle, and Prince Harry's top baby girl name prediction has a hidden historical meaning.

So people are predicting what Megan and Harry's baby girl's name is going to be.

So I wanted to get your thoughts and I'll share my own about what we think the name is going to be.

Most people are saying they think the name will be Philippa as a tribute to Prince Philip.

And Philippa is like a royal name.

I don't think that's going to be it.

I don't think it's, I see why people would think that.

I don't think that's going to be it.

I would like to know what you think it's going to be.

Well, let me just say, Megan and Harry are, yes, royals, but now they're really like Hollywood celebrities.

And no offense, like Philippa's just like not going to cut it in the Hollywood school districts.

Oh, it's also Pippa Middleton's name.

Pippa's sister.

Oh.

Oh, Pippa's cute.

Pippa is cute.

But I also, I don't know if that would stop them because I don't know if it needs to stop them.

I think Megan has too much pride as like her own woman to have a name shared shared with Kate, who we know that she doesn't like sister.

Yeah, I just also think, I just don't think me either.

Yeah, it's not gonna cut it and like in

even schools.

It's in

no, the school district in Calabasas is not like you have

a school,

Moses, Saint, you have North and Philippa.

No, it's just not gonna work.

It's not rolling off the tongue.

And also, Archie and Philippa does not work.

Not at all.

Archie and Spencer?

You think it's gonna be Spencer?

Of course, after Lady Die, I I got that vibe after the Oprah interview.

I do believe I said it on the podcast first, so like, just in case I'm right, I just want to credit.

Because, one, it's super meaningful to Lady Die, of course, and we know that Harry and Megan are very,

of course, you know,

connected to her legacy.

And I also think it's like a good Hollywood name.

It's like kind of like gender-bending.

It's like Spencer could be a girl or a boy.

I think it's good.

I think it's good.

I think it's good.

I have three.

You wrote them down?

I wrote them down.

I have three that I think it could be.

The first one is Margo.

I think, like, named after Princess Margaret, but they're obviously not going to name her Margaret.

So I think Margot is a

fresh take on that royal name.

I mean, Margot is an absolutely stunning name.

I've never met a Margo who like I wasn't intimidated by.

I think it's modern.

I think it could be.

I like that.

Then I added just a classic royal name that is just classic, which would be Alexandra, and they can riff off of that.

Too basic for a Hollywood A-list couple living in Calabasa.

But Archie and Alexandra, very cute, very cute.

So cute.

And very royal.

Yeah.

And then the third, which is another royal name, not as big in like Britain, but just a pretty name that has royal ties, Sophia.

Lovely as well, but again, not going to cut it on the Marymount High School playground.

I think it will.

I think Margot and Sophia will.

And I think Alexandra, if they, with a nice nickname, I think it will cut it.

Those are my choices.

Yeah, yeah, no, no.

I think they're all really good choices.

Obviously, not as good as Spencer, because that's like so clearly the answer here, you know?

Or Philippa.

No.

Yeah, it's going to be no.

And who are these people who came up with this prediction?

Just like people on Twitter or like actual experts?

I don't know.

People magazine.

Oh, so it's just like people from Twitter.

Yeah, I guess so.

Or maybe it's like the odds in the betting world.

Yeah.

I mean, I think, I don't, a lot of people aren't even bringing it up, but I think Spencer is like so, when you were going to say like people have come to a conclusion like what the name's going to be, it's like obviously Spencer.

No, but like Prince Philip just died.

This is the first child being named, first child being born after his death, like Philippa.

Yeah, but you know, people, yeah, people in the UK need to be a little bit more creative because, like, Philip is a boy's name, and I think they're just like trying to make it a girl's name.

You know, like when you're speaking Spanish, you just change like the O to an A, like Philippa.

Like, it's just not a name.

Philippina?

No, that's like a country.

Yeah.

You can make it like Phyllis.

Phyllis.

Yeah.

Salon Johnny.

Gorgeous.

Phyllis at Marymount High School.

Phyllis Markle.

Mountbatten, Windsor.

Phyllis Windsor.

Phyllis Mountbatten.

I mean, they're not going to call her Phyllis Mountbatten Windsor present in school.

Yes, they will.

It's going to be Philly Windsor.

Yes, they will.

Stunning.

Very stunning.

Oh, I was thinking maybe also May, but she'll be born not in May.

May's ugly, too.

But May is offended.

May is a historic

name.

Yeah, Queen Mary's name was May.

Got it.

May of Tech.

Got it.

It's funny when we talk about names, because we have, you know, so many listeners.

Oh, yeah, and we're offending people.

Yeah, like we have toasters named May, so I'm like, May's ugly.

Justice for the May toasters, I take that back.

It's actually quite a lovely name.

Do you even say it was ugly?

Because I don't think that it is.

I do believe I said that, yeah.

Oh, okay.

Well, I disagree.

And also,

I'm sorry, but I don't take back what I said to the Philippa toasters.

Even though I'm almost certain you don't exist.

If you do exist,

come on the show.

Come on the show.

And tell us what it was like growing up with a name like Philippa.

But Pippa, like, so cute.

There's just so many nicknames.

Like, if you have a great nickname it doesn't even matter and that's really what it's been like for the royal family like they all are named the same thing yeah like their fathers and their grandfathers and they all have these nicknames like albert birdie right there was one queen victoria had seven kids and the last one they just called it baby love that my umbrella today had seven children and four of them were named claudia oh yeah four of them yes four

he's i got in the car and he was like claudia i'm like yeah he's like oh it's my daughter's name and he's like i have four i'm like oh my god i'm one of four also he's like no i have seven kids but four of them are named claudia i'm I'm like, stunning.

Like, I've never heard of that.

Interesting take on

a modern name.

Yeah.

Also,

what I was just about to say, what were we talking about?

Named Elizabeth.

Names.

I think the name Elizabeth is like really pretty, but I think it's like the best name for nicknames.

Like, there's literally so many.

Betty.

Betty, Lizzie.

Liz, Lizzie.

Lisa.

Lisa.

Beth.

Beth.

There's so many.

Yeah.

And it's so it's been around for so long that you don't have to worry that it's going to go out of style timeless We never go out of style We never go out of style And I guess like someone could be named Victoria or a take on Victoria because they don't have that in the family right now I thought that's what you were gonna suggest as well, but the thing is I just don't think that Megan and Carrie have enough reverence for Queen Victoria.

No, it's not not even Queen Victoria.

I just think that like it's been made clear like they have annexed themselves from the family like they don't want to be royals.

So I don't think this royal name lineage, they give a shit.

Right, I agree.

Even though Archie was born when they were still royal, so they had to abide by the the rules.

I agree, but that's why I think they're going to choose a name with a loose royal tie-in that is modern and pretty on its own that they like regardless.

Like with Spencer.

Unlike Philippa.

Oh, yeah, it's too obvious.

I'm going Margot or Sophia.

Okay, those are both stunning names.

Stunning.

Archie and Sophia.

Love to see it.

Sophia with an F, by the way.

That was a good joke.

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Wait, before we get into the next story, have you seen the commercials for the show, Why Women Kill?

No.

It's on Power Mount Plus and it's from the creator of Desperate Housewives.

Marcheri?

Oh, no, I think it's probably like a lesser-known creator.

Oh, so it was an assistant on.

For sure, but it looks like something we would like.

Oh, yes, I agree.

Just want to flag that for you.

It sounds like a show that already had come out.

It's not new, is it?

No, it's new.

It hasn't come out yet.

Well, it's now streaming on Paramount Plus.

Not an ad.

Just wanted to flag that for you.

I just think.

Because I've seen the commercial twice, and it's like Mad Men vibes.

Okay.

Okay.

Oh, you know what I started last night?

The Halston series on Netflix.

Yeah.

I started watching the wrong one.

Everyone's like, watch Halston.

I'm like, okay, so I go to...

Apple TV and the first thing that comes up is this boring ass documentary on Amazon Prime.

But then I actually did have like a good foundation of knowledge about like who Halston was and like the whole thing.

It's pretty good, actually.

It's uh

who's it who plays he's like a famous actor who plays Halston and he's like very you know uh talented actor.

He's just like

being such an actor in the you know what I mean?

Ewan McGregor?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was in Beauty and the Beast, right?

Yeah, I think he was the clock.

No, no, no, no, that was um Ewan a different McGregor, I believe.

Okay.

Um,

the show is really good, um, and it's definitely like an interesting story worth telling.

But some of the acting is community theater.

Like, it's really shocking because it's like.

You're right.

He was in Beauty and the Beast.

He was, right?

Who was He the Clock?

He was.

Hold on.

Go back to what you were saying.

I'll find out.

I was just saying, like, some of the acting in this Halston series is very community theater-esque, especially coming from Ewan, who's like a world-renowned actor.

I mean, he was.

Lumiere.

Lumiere, thank you.

He was amazing.

He was amazing.

So, yeah, exactly.

Flying through the air with the greatest of ease.

And I'm just like, this is the same guy as Lumiere.

Like, his acting is is just like not his best and i know that's might be crazy to say seeing as how i'm a brain dead moron but still like i just think he could have done better okay but it's a great the fashion is like so the sex do you think i should watch it you will love it like it's elegance it's like 60s 70s new york what happened to elegance class

like that's literally what it is like it's just fabulous like and they really I actually was happy to have saw the documentary first because they got a lot of the people who are being portrayed in this Halston series and they look exactly like like I knew who half of these people were just because I saw them in the documentary like the real person interesting yeah it's good people really liked it and recommended it to me and I'm only on like episode three but it's really good and the girl who plays Liza Minali like who knew that Liza Minali was integral to the success of Halston you know who would have known that um

she the girl who plays Liza is great it's really good okay cool Next up, a little sports news that's so crazy that we promised to update you on.

Churchill Downs bans the Kentucky Derby Derby winner Medina Spirit's trainer for two years after the horse fails two drug tests.

Wow, Bob Bafford had convinced me, but apparently this horse is on drugs.

No, when you like, when you are accused of something and you defend yourself like so hard and you're willing to do anything, take a drug test, DNA test, it's like, of course you're innocent, but like to go through all that just to be a liar.

Yep.

The Bob Bafford, the Hall of Fame trainer of Medina Spirit, the winner of this year's Kentucky Derby, has been banned by Horse Racing Venue.

Churchill Downs for the next two years after his prized horse failed two drug tests.

Results of the Derby winner's tests were confirmed to New York Times and CNBC on Wednesday.

The horse had two positive drug samples of banned steroid drug betamethasone from the day of the derby in May.

So, what happens to the title?

Does it go to someone else?

I don't know.

I don't know.

And honestly, being banned for two years

is kind of like a slap on the wrists.

Mm-hmm.

Because, like,

once you, you know,

what is the word I'm looking for?

Tamper with the integrity of the race.

You obviously have no respect for horse culture.

Yeah.

Therefore, I think you should receive a punishment slightly harsher than a two-year suspension.

Yes, I would just say I do think this man has respect for horse culture because he's like dedicated his entire life to it.

I don't know.

I don't know if I would have to.

Why is the horse on drugs?

Right.

Like, justice for the horse.

Like, there's so many things to unpack here.

But I think what's not even being said is, like, the unethicality of giving a horse drugs when the horse can't consent to wanting drugs.

You know what I mean?

No, like, it's mean.

The horse is probably, like, minding his own business.

Then all of a sudden he's like, working so hard.

And then he's feeling like speedy and having anxiety.

And it's like, he didn't ask for that.

No, he didn't.

That's like somebody unknowingly like roofying you.

It's unethical.

I actually feel really bad for the horse.

I feel bad for the horse because he felt like such a winner and now he feels like a loser.

Not even even that.

He was given drugs that he did not ask for.

Therefore,

the suspension should be more than two years.

It should be five.

Oh, interesting.

So it is yet to be determined if this, the, if Medina Spirit's win will be rescinded from the jockey who rode him, John Velasquez.

The victory marked his fourth derby win, that jockey.

The horse's owner, Zidane, would have to forfeit the $1.8 million first place check if the horse is disqualified.

You know, in another world.

So it's unclear yet if he's been disqualified from winning the derby, but the trainer has been suspended for two years.

Got it.

I mean, in another lifetime, like you and I could have and should have been horse jockeys.

Like our proportions are just so perfect for it.

We actually did grow up riding horses.

Like that could have been our path.

That could have been our path.

Our jockey is too big and our horse is too small.

What's that from?

Secretariat.

Is there a, are there a lot of female jockeys?

Which I think it's from Sea Biscuit because I don't recall Secretariat being deficient in any way.

Same thing.

Oh, for sure.

The movie Secretariat and the movie Sea Biscuit are literally the same movie about one-named horses that start with S.

With S that were champions.

Though I do think that Sea Biscuit was like

Oscar worthy.

No, no.

I think the opposite.

No, no.

Sea Biscuit.

Sea Biscuit was Toby Maguire.

I'm sorry.

Sea Biscuit the horse was a perfect specimen of horse.

Yeah.

Perfect Spichemon.

And Secretariat.

Because he was like a little bit of an underdog and like Toby McGuire was like a little tall or something.

I'm talking about the movies.

Sea Biscuit was in theaters.

It was, I think it got nominated for a bunch of Oscars.

I don't think so.

Secretariat was like a decom.

No, no.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Secretariat was a decom.

A Disney Channel original movie.

Like it was, we, we love that movie.

It's like our family's favorite movie.

We think it's like God's gift to this earth when it's literally like a Disney Channel commercial-free movie.

No, no, no.

You guys, if you've never seen Secretariat, treat yourself and it's so good.

It's not decom.

No, it's unbelievable.

And there's so much to unpack.

Diane Lane, is that her name?

And A.J.

Mashalka, who also has a singing performance.

And the grandma from Hannah Montana movie.

Yes.

Yeah.

There's a lot.

So good.

There's a lot there.

And Medina Spirit, is there going to make a movie about him?

Yeah, will it be Oscar worthy or will it be a D-com?

We'll have to wait and see.

And it's going to be a really sad one.

Yeah.

Like he was on drugs.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I would like the Medina Spirit film to be told from the perspective of Medina himself and what it was like to be just poked and prodded when literally nobody asked for it.

Yeah, and I agree.

I agree.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Sure.

It's a final story.

Okay, and this is going to lead us into our Beverly Hills recap, but Erica Jane and Tom Girardi's legal scandals are at the center of a new documentary.

That was fast.

This may not be the biopic Erica Jane was hoping for.

The star of Real Housewise of Beverly Hills and her estrange husband, Tom Girardi's legal scandals, are the subject of a new documentary called The Housewife and the Hustler.

ABC News Originals film centers around how many, around the singer and her lawyer ex and the implosion of their carefully maintained image.

The filmmakers were able to obtain voicemail messages, court records, and a never-before-aired deposition tape of Girardi, according to ABC News.

Yeah, also

Heather McDonald is in it.

I know, I saw that.

I'm really shocked that this turned around so fast because first of all, like, there's yet to be charges dropped.

Like,

yeah, it's

still being told.

So, this is a little premature, in my opinion.

Yeah.

But I'm still going to watch it.

Yeah.

When I first was watching the trailer, I was like, oh my God, is this an episode of American Greed?

And then I was like, oh no, it's The Housewife and the Hustler, which also sounds like a rom-com.

The Beauty and the Baker.

Like, it's literally

the Beauty and the Baker.

But I guess it will end with, like, you know, Tom has now been in

with a little text on screen.

Yeah, it's a little premature for sure.

And the the name is super bizarre.

But when I saw it, I thought this was like a fan edit.

I'm like, this is like the name is so tacky.

And I'm like, this is obviously like somebody, some housewife fan like made this video, but then it turns out it's like fully gonna be on Hulu.

Yeah, on June 14th.

And so it's gonna be really interesting to have this information like

about the

the facts of the case while watching it play out on Beverly Hills.

But you know, somebody did chime in, somebody who I did not expect to hear from on this matter, but Leah Black from the Real Houses of Miami, whose husband is like one of the biggest lawyers in the city.

He's like a Tom Girardi.

Yeah.

What was his famous case?

Something about JFK?

Hold on, I'll tell you.

It was a famous one.

Roy Black.

Roy Black, because I want to find, oh, here.

And this is what she said about the Erica Girardi of it all.

She said, I hope people keep an open mind about Erica.

Hashtag R-H-O-B.

The law partners slash accountants didn't know.

The California bar didn't know.

The creditors didn't know.

The city lavishing husband with awards didn't know.

So why would people assume a singer slash dancer with no background in law and finance should know?

Be nice.

Okay.

So Leah Black has spoken, and honestly, I respect her opinion.

He's known for

his gaining an acquittal in 1991 of William Kennedy Smith on charges of rape.

Ooh.

That's the case from that he met his wife at.

Is it?

Like, because he met, she served on the jury.

What?

Right, Leah Black served on the jury of a case that he, of the big one.

Gotta get on a jury.

Oh my God, that's crazy.

That's what I remember.

They are so rich.

Yeah.

And they've been married forever.

Mm-hmm.

Wow.

I bet she was happy she got served that day.

Yeah.

I mean, I can't find it now, but that's what I remember.

But correct me if I'm wrong.

That's so interesting.

The Housewife and the Hustler, June 14th, Hulu.

I'll be watching.

100%.

Yeah.

It's like research.

Love that Heather McDonald is in it.

I know.

She's a perfect person for it.

She is.

Like, she is a commentator on the subject.

And that actually makes me think like this is going to be a well-done documentary because they had the foresight to put Heather McDonald's.

She's so funny and she really knows everything.

She's like been watching.

Liz and Calabasis.

Like she knows it all.

Yep.

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And I just do want to confirm she met her husband when she was doing jury duty during the rape trial of William Kennedy Smith.

Oh.

And Roy was his lawyer.

A year later, Leah ran into him and they started to date.

Now they've been married since 1994.

So I guess they met a year later, not

if they had.

It's like when

it's like when you see someone on hinge and and then you like meet them in real life.

So, do you say you and Zach met on Hinge?

I say we met at work, just like they met at the trial.

No, you're, no, no, no, because you and Zach matched on Hinge and like never messaged, and then a year later, like you met.

Like two months later.

Whatever.

So you say that you met at work.

At work when you met in person.

Listen.

And then go with the one that sounds better.

Yeah, of course.

The jury's a better story, but they say they ran into each other a year later.

Sounds like they just so happened to have been in the same room.

But if they hadn't been on that jury, she probably would have been like, hey, I was on the jury.

And And I'm sure the jury became famous.

So they probably recognized each other from the trial.

He probably saw her in the box.

He was working, but he was like, Ooh, that beautiful lady.

And then a year later, she shows up.

Honestly, it speaks to his skills as a lawyer that he was able to fall in love with a jury.

And get the acquittal.

And also get the acquittal.

Like, that's why he's one of the highest paid lawyers in the country.

And they live in the biggest house of all time that literally has never been cleaned.

100%.

Okay.

Wheel House Wives of Beverly Hills, part two in Tahoe.

The scene opens.

This was really like the downfall of Sun's Track.

Like, that's what the episode should have been called.

She was being so chaotic and saying some of the dumbest shit ever.

So sensitive, too.

So sensitive about the stupid prank, which wasn't even funny.

And honestly, she just like kept kind of perpetuating and trying to like compare like her struggles as a white woman to the struggles of Crystal as an Asian woman and Garcelle as a black woman when like honestly like they couldn't be more different.

And Crystal, I'm I like Crystal a lot and I fully understand her frustration, like not even being able to give Sutton the time of day.

Like Sutton is so fragile and so sensitive and like literally, Crystal was.

I understand that, like, there was this joke going around, and Sutton didn't know.

So, there was like some confusion.

And, like, that made her cry for some reason.

But once she,

once she was in on the joke, and everyone explained to her, Crystal was like, I was kidding you because I didn't want Kathy.

Like, she couldn't let it go.

Yeah, she kept like digging herself into this hole and she couldn't get

out of her own way.

And she really should have left and went to her room because she needed just like to remove herself from the situation, but like sitting there and trying to get over, like to process all of her emotions in front of everyone, it was just getting worse and worse.

And so, yes, she wasn't helping herself whatsoever.

But I think it's clear for the women who have known Sutton for more than one season now that like she is an odd bird.

Yes.

And so many of the women who didn't really understand her season one, just like I think Crystal is experiencing now, now know her, really like her, and consider her a friend with all of her quirks and everything.

That's very true.

Like Garcelle was being very protective.

Understanding.

And I think even like, remember, I feel like last season, Erica and Dorit had like no time for Sutton.

Now, like, they're just more understanding of her because sometimes people take a minute to figure out.

100%.

And so I think Crystal's experienced what everybody experienced last season with Sutton.

We're just like, what's wrong with this woman?

But I think Crystal has a lower threshold for Sutton's bullshit.

Yeah, definitely.

But I just think that like when you come into this group, like Sutton is just like the obvious weak link.

Yeah.

Because everybody else is like so like sure of themselves and fabulous and this and that.

And like Sutton is just like, oh bizarre.

She's just bizarre.

Yeah.

So I can understand why they're not meshing whatsoever right now and I think Sutton did absolutely nothing to help her case but now things are gonna get weird with this next like scene into next week.

I was like literally like my heart was beating fast like when Crystal, who was still mic'd and on the phone with her friend, I guess when you're new to a show, like you always forget that you're mic'd.

She didn't even say anything so bad.

Yeah, that conversation wouldn't have been aired if Sutton didn't go downstairs.

And Sutton got drunk because why was she going down to her room to bring her her coat in the middle of the night?

Like, yeah, oh, I guess, well, maybe they say she left the room like 20 minutes before and she left her coat upstairs.

You said 45 minutes later.

Oh, okay.

Okay, that makes that tracks.

So she might have just been like trying to like be helpful and extend an olive.

And you know when like you got your drunk and you just want to help everyone?

Yeah, it was just like a weird thing to say.

It was just really weird.

And then especially considering next week we find out that like Crystal was naked and she was just complaining on the phone how like she thinks Sutton is so weird and like

creepy and creepy.

And then she walks in and she's naked.

So it's weird.

It's a weird dynamic one in which I don't think we've ever seen.

And last week we were were saying how like we really feel like we don't get to know like Kathy Hilton at all.

And I feel like this episode was like a decent amount of Kathy Hilton time.

And like, I don't know, I kind of lived for her.

Like she just literally did not go on that torturous trip that took like an hour to get to and an hour to get back.

And the women were like beat when they were done.

And she just like slept till 12.

She drank a red bill because she thought it was a soft drink.

Like she was being funny.

So I feel like I still don't know a lot about her, but she brings like a levity and like a fun, like the prank was her idea.

She brings like a good vibe.

And I actually think Kyle's like very relaxed around her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not like she was with him because I always felt like she, I feel like she felt like she had to protect him.

Yeah.

Whereas like Kathy is a grown woman and she knows how like and Kathy can hold her own and like socialize without the help of Kyle.

But I think Kyle likes having her cool older sister there.

It makes Kyle feel cool.

Yeah, definitely.

I just like really, really.

And she wasn't even in this episode, but the previews for next week when they like get into the Denise stuff again and Lisa Rena just says again, like, no, I was so wrong.

Let's move on.

No, like, you literally ruined someone's life.

Like, can we take a breath and like, let's discuss it?

Like, the way you always want want to own it, Lisa.

Like, other people.

No, no, no.

Here's the thing.

Like, she is owning it, but it's like, okay, so now what's the repercussions?

Repercussion.

What about Denise?

Justice for Denise.

Like, you, you can't, she just, like, thinks she is owning it.

You're right, but, like, there's no.

It's like, it's so weird.

It's such a weird feeling to like for, to have someone be so wrong and damaging to someone else's life and then also like take full

responsibility, but like, there's no emotion.

Yeah, it's just, it's a weird tactic.

tactic.

Yeah, no, it's brilliant because nobody can say you're not.

I know.

I need Garcel to

keep going.

No, to bring Denise into the fold because Lisa really needs to say this all to Denise.

Right, so it's so easy.

That's what it is.

It's so easy for Lisa to like completely own it, say she was wrong.

She was the leader of this whole movement with all the girls when Denise is not around.

Say it to Denise.

Yeah, and bring Denise back on the show.

Bring back Denise.

I'm not over it.

No, justice for fucking Denise.

Yeah.

But other than that, what really happened?

It It was like a good episode, but nothing major.

Yeah, I thought that like the prank was just like a little stupid.

And I can imagine, like, obviously, Sutton was just

so sensitive and handled everything so wrong.

But like, if everybody is at a table

texting in on a joke and they all decided to tell the next person, next person, but like, nobody told her, I would feel like a loser, too.

Yeah.

And then when they were sitting down afterwards in the living room, I'm like, wow, everyone was involved on the joke except for her and Kyle.

And I guess like Kyle just doesn't care.

But like, you're right.

Like, she's so insecure.

And, like, she's so not sure of herself so like everyone's texting everyone's in on something you think it's about you yeah and also they just had this like heavy conversation about being southern and race and all these things so like she probably was already like feeling like she said the wrong thing right and now everyone's texting and it's like it feels like it's about her 100 but then she just emotionally handled it like irrationally no the walk from the sprinter vans to the living room was so chaotic like everyone like hovering over each other it was just so messy um

And

it appears as things don't get better with Crystal because we have that iconic scene.

Like, what am I jealous of?

Your leather pants?

Like, things don't get better between Crystal and Sutton, which is frustrating because I do like them both.

I actually don't think some people are meant to be friends, you know?

Like, they are just so different.

I don't know.

I think I could see them being friends next season.

I think they just, I think Sutton's a really difficult person to understand.

Yes, that is.

And she has won over so, like, the

apples.

When last season, she was like,

put the mouse down.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Literally.

But I really like Crystal.

I have to say, like, I think she's

really like adapting very well, very quickly, making friends with a lot of the girls.

And I really, really like her.

Like, I think she's...

She does.

I think she brings great energy to the show.

She brings a whole new level of like rich Hollywood film industry, which I love.

And I think she's really holding her own very well.

Me, I totally agree.

Yeah.

Great, great stuff so far, ladies.

And good episode tonight is Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

So we'll recap that tomorrow for Friday's episode.

Oh, my God, you guys.

Tomorrow's Friday.

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