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morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast, podcast only extravaganza.

I am very honored, humbled, and a little afraid of my co-host today.

I am joined by someone who's just been so in demand demand here at the Morning Toast.

So crazy.

It's shocking.

Shocking.

The one and only snitch is here.

Hi, guys.

I can't believe we're podcasting right now.

Guys, it has been a journey, and I just think we should take you along to let you know why I'm not in studio with Ben right now, which is what I promised, which is what will be tomorrow and Wednesday.

But things happened.

Things change, you know?

We're just spontaneous like that.

Hashtag life happened.

Hashtag life changes by Thomas Ratt at the Mail Artist of the Year at the ACM Awards.

Which we will get into, of course.

Of course.

But Margo and I and Ben spent the weekend up in Pennsylvania at Brian, Brian Kelly, TPG, my lover, at his house, and it was amazing.

Everything of the sort.

It was just a really great, well-rounded weekend.

Good people, good vibes, good alcohol, good food.

And when the time came on Sunday...

It wasn't time.

It was not our time.

We went to drag brunch, which was amazing.

Is that your first time seeing drag?

You know what's so weird is that I went to drag last weekend.

You did?

I did two in a row, but last weekend was my first one.

And then here I am again.

Wait, where?

Uh, at Tito Murphy's in the city.

What?

Yeah.

I didn't know that.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Yeah.

No, it was really fun, but I will say this one was better.

But this was my first time seeing drag since I started watching drag race in the pandemic.

So I have like such a respect for the art.

And we went to this little drag show up here.

It was amazing.

It was so funny.

We were so hungover.

And by the time we got back from drag, we were just like, why are we running back to the city?

Yeah, no, there's nothing to run home to.

So we literally figured out a way for us both to make it work while being in Pennsylvania.

We're gonna go home today.

We just needed more time here.

Yeah, and also it's like there's nothing worse than like leaving a party when it's like still going on.

And also like we had been drinking at that point.

It's like we were supposed to go stay in the car for an hour and a half.

That was the real thing.

No, honestly, the real thing was having to pack doing it.

And shower.

Like I just didn't have it.

I have no regrets.

No, me neither.

We woke up here, we'll relax, we'll have breakfast, we'll podcast, and then we'll go home on our own accord.

On our own accord.

It's so important to do things on your own accord.

I love doing things on my own accord.

No, me too.

And you know what I hate?

Not doing things on my own accord.

Yes.

How did you know?

So Snitch is here to break down the greatest and latest with me.

There's a lot going on.

We watched the ACM awards last night.

Yes, we did.

We watched it with Taylor Strecker, Taylor Donahue, and Brian, who like all could not give less of a shit.

Actually, Taylor Donahue knows a little bit about country, but like just it was like exciting for me to like show them.

I'm like, that we're an encyclopedia of knowledge when it comes to country meeting.

Not only that, I'm like, but country's cool.

Yeah, and it's good.

And this is a fabulous award show like look at the gowns you know right and i think they enjoyed it oh did you i was gonna say like some most of the performances were pretty underwhelming yes and also we missed all the best ones in the first 30 minutes i know but i watched him on my phone when i got in bed afterwards

did you no i literally went to sleep right away you did i'm right i was up for an hour oh and i pulled out my neck oh yes i was like running around this bed like trying to catch my charger and i'm like leaning over the side of the bed i flip up my neck is broken cannot move right cannot move left i don't know how i'm gonna shower i feel like that's just like such a you thing no no i can't just like go on a weekend and not like come back broken.

Yeah, yeah, I can't even move my neck.

I'm like looking so straight at me.

So you're looking so straight at me.

It's making me uncomfortable.

I'm in so much pain.

I gotta get home to my muscle relaxers.

Now I'm like, okay, I gotta get home.

Yeah, I get that.

I'm

gonna need to get home so I can like just de like compress.

Like I have, me and Jackie have that thing where we eat a lot or drink a lot that you just are tender to the touch.

And right now I'm so tender to the touch that it's just, it's not right.

Can I touch?

Yeah.

I mean, you're not going to feel it.

I feel tender, like it hurts me.

You look beautiful, though.

I look disgusting, but why do you know?

I haven't washed my hair since Thursday.

I haven't washed mine since

Friday.

Thursday.

Friday.

For me.

Oh, I thought you were correcting me.

How would I know you?

How the fuck do you know?

No.

So we're going to talk about a lot of stuff.

There's a lot of Kardashian news, of course, the ACM awards.

And I have a story about Taylor, but I just want to like talk about Fearless Re-recording.

Oh, have we not spoken about it?

Not on the podcast.

Oh, oh, that's true because I haven't been on it.

And people are just dying, like, what is snitches?

I mean, I am shocked, but not surprised by, like, how much I loved it, just because it's, like, I've heard the album before, like, I know the album, but just for some reason.

Well, I wanted to save this conversation for, like, the fifth story, which is the Taylor story.

Okay, so why did you even bring it up?

Oh, I was just giving the people like a rundown of what's going to happen here today.

I'm just saying, okay.

Sorry.

Like, I don't want to cut you off, but I have to save it.

We have a, like, a schedule.

Yeah, sorry, I forgot.

Um, I just wanted to give everyone a rundown, you know.

Also, um, we were like drunk last night and Margo doesn't even watch, so I did not watch The Real House Sides of Atlanta, so there is is no recap today.

And Ben doesn't watch either.

Oh my neck.

Oh my God.

Did you just see?

I just like, oh, fuck.

Why'd you do it again?

Okay, so there won't be any Housewise recaps this week because Ben doesn't watch either.

And I'll just wait for Jackie to get back.

Also, for those wondering on an update on Jackie, we've spoken to her briefly.

She's landed at the facility.

She's gotten, she had dinner there and she did a tour and she was sending us pictures and it's beautiful and she feels safe and her room is very nice.

So the possibility of her like ending up in like a dungeon is very low now that we've seen the facilities, the grounds are beautiful, and she thanks you all for the constant support.

Yes.

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Okay, so first story is something we already kind of dove into, but here are the ACM Awards 2021.

Who won?

Let's start at the top with the biggest award of the night, which is Entertainer of the Year.

The nominees were Luke Bryan, Eric Church, Luke Combs, Thomas Rhett, and Chris Stapleton.

And the winner shockingly went to the talentless hack that is Luke Bryan.

And I'm just like shocked because I thought the ACMs had integrity.

Me too.

And it's, but here's the thing.

It's like, how are you choosing an entertainer of the year in a year when there was no entertainment?

No, and like if I were to be choosing an entertainer of the year in a year where there was no entertainment, I might choose the person who wrote literally the most beautiful song about what we were all going through called Six Feet Apart by Luke Combs.

I mean, I thought Luke Combs had won.

We both screamed.

We just heard him say Luke.

I didn't even realize Luke Bryan is so fucking irrelevant.

Yeah, literally.

I'm like, really?

This guy, he sings a song, play it again, play it again, play it again, play it again, play it again.

Margarita shout.

They're not deep at all.

And I'm like, really?

This is who you really want to be?

The face.

I mean, he is.

Let me play Devil's Advocate for a second.

A second.

I know you're a bit more.

I've always thought this and I agree with you.

But when we were at Stagecoach and Luke Bryan was the headliner and we were like, oh, Luke Bryan, like, really?

I have to say, he thoroughly entertained us.

We had an amazing time.

He's a very good performer.

That's not at all what I thought you were going to say.

What I thought you were going to say.

American Idol.

Yeah, a feeling I have about him and Blake Shelton, even though I feel like both of them are really like sub-par musicians.

I love Blake Telton.

At this point, I love his personality, and I love Luke Bryan's personality on American Idol.

So I think they both do a good job for representing country music in mainstream media.

And for that, he might be deserving of a nomination.

But like, at the end of the day, Entertainer of the Year should be about the music, the lyrics.

And I actually would have chosen any person on this list.

I agree.

Like, Chris Stapleton.

I wouldn't have been mad at Eric Church because he obviously deserves it.

I would not have been mad at Chris Stapleton because he definitely deserves it.

I wanted Luke Combs.

And like Thomas Redd, I don't like die for, but I would have put him before Luke Bryan.

And Thomas Redd has been growing on me with his new music.

Me too.

He tried really hard to be like a pop star and I was hating him.

And now I'm like having a hard time unhating him.

No, I think his new music will do it for you on its own.

Just give it time.

I will be listening to it.

Okay.

All right.

Next up was female artists of the year, which again, you're right.

Like in retrospect, it's like none of them and all of them because nothing happened this year.

No, exactly.

Kelsey Ballarini, Miranda Lambert, Ashley McBride, Marin Morris, and Carly Parse were all nominated.

And Marin Morris won.

Makes sense.

Makes sense.

I would have loved to have seen an Ashley McBride moment because I've been trying to get you to respect her and you just don't.

No, I respect her.

Like, I'm just not obsessed with her.

You should be.

Okay.

Dude, what did you think of the performance you saw last night of Martha Devine?

Martha Devine.

Yeah, that was good.

Martha Divine.

See, I know her music.

You, no, no.

And also, One Night Standards.

One Not Standards.

Okay, you only know like the little clips they played.

Like, you need to listen to it, Margaret.

I'm telling you, it's so good.

You die.

I'll listen to it.

I'll listen to it.

Also, not bad for a girl going nowhere.

Do you know that song?

No.

Stunning.

Like, just trust me.

Okay.

Then for male artists of the year, Darks Bentley, Luke Hombs, Eric Church, Thomas Rhett, Chris Stapleton.

So explain to me.

I know what you're going to say.

No, explain to me this, ready?

Mm-hmm.

Luke Bryan won Entertainer of the Year, but he wasn't even nominated in the male artist of the year category.

It doesn't really work.

How does that work?

How can you be the Entertainer of the Year, but not even be in a contender for male artists of the year?

Yeah, I mean, I don't really understand.

I never really understood that.

Because it's like, if you're the male artist of the year, then you're the entertainer of the year.

So when Thomas Red.

There's only men nominated.

Right.

Yeah.

So when Thomas Rhett won, I was like, oh, he's obviously entertainer of the year because you can't be the male artist of the year, but not the entertainer of the year.

No fucking sense.

I would have literally preferred anyone else on this list to win.

Eric Church, Luke Holmes, Chris Stapleton, maybe not Dirk Spentley.

I don't know why Thomas Rhett won here.

I don't know why he won, but I like don't really care.

Like, it didn't, it didn't upset me like Luke Bryan has upset me.

This didn't upset me either, but Luke Holmes was so disrespected last night that that upset me.

That upset me.

That upset me.

Yeah, I agree.

That upset me.

Duo of the year went to Dan and Shea.

I know, but you know what?

The only other person on here who I think should have win would, wow, it's actually crazy.

Like, there's like no women anywhere.

Like, it's actually.

Dan and Che was one.

They're one.

Like, I love them.

I love them too, but they're not huge.

Like, when you compare them to Florida, Georgia line, Dan, and Che, Brothers Osborne should have won.

Absolutely.

That's all I came here to say.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I love TJ Osborne so much.

Like, every time he came on screen, I just wanted to, like, literally cry and give him a hug.

No, I know.

Group of the year went to Old Dominion, which I'm thrilled about.

Yeah.

And by the way,

I think they always win.

I think Little Big Town always wins.

Oh my god, I know, and their performance was like so lackluster.

It was so chaotic,

chaotic, like in the street with the strobe lights and the band, it was too much.

And the walking, I can't.

That's weird that they, I didn't ever realize this.

The ACM has new artists of the year, two categories, female and male.

Okay.

Female was Gabby Barrett, which I think is really deserving.

As she said, who else was nominated?

Really good people.

So Ingrid Andres, who was like nominated for Grammys.

Yeah.

She might have maybe should have won.

Maybe.

Also, Mickey Guyton, who like I die for

and the fact that she performed a song that wasn't black like me was such a missed opportunity and it was still really good, but it wasn't what it could have been powerfully, you know?

I agree, but I did actually, she made me a bigger fan because it's a song I didn't know and I liked it.

And she did a really good job hosting when hosting is literally the worst gig ever.

Like you're so awkward.

Everyone hates you and you're just like awkward and weird.

And no matter what, how good you do, people will say you did bad.

Yes.

Also, Tenil Arts was nominated in that category.

Just she was up against too many better people.

Yeah.

New male artist of the year was Jimmy Allen.

I feel like he's not new.

And none of the other nominees really.

Do you know them?

Like, I do, like Hardy, but he's like.

Is he new?

The new categories are so weird.

So weird.

Album of the year went to Starting Over by Chris Stapleton, which is so fair.

So good, by the way.

I can't believe I didn't watch prior to this because I forgot, but I saw that

Chris Stapleton sing Maggie's song with Miranda Lambert.

Tell everyone, Margo.

Okay, so Maggie's song is about Chris Stapleton's dog named Maggie

who died.

And it's about like him

dying.

And if you don't know, I have a dog named Maggie.

So that song traumatized me.

Yo, Margo literally has to go to therapy every time she listens to that song.

But so I guess they sing it, which, by the way, why are you singing that?

So sad.

And

I wanted to hear.

But he was supposed to sing with his wife as he normally does, but she, her sister was having a a baby.

So she's gonna be muscleto.

So then Miranda Lambert stepped in at the last minute.

I live for him and his wife.

Like, they just don't fucking waver.

Like, they just are so solid.

So solid.

And also, like, just so private and so quiet.

But then, like, just rock stars.

Rock stars.

I couldn't agree more.

Yeah.

Um, single of the year was I Hope You're Happy Now by Carly Parse and Lee Bryce.

And I thought this was interesting that this was an all-female category and the one that won was the one with the man featured.

Yeah, that's an interesting point.

When like the bones, Bluebird.

I love that song.

I hope you're happy now, but I feel like I'm the only one.

No, you're not.

Okay.

Also, important to note that Luke Holmes wrote it.

There was a tiny win for him last night.

Song of the Year was The Bones.

That didn't surprise anyone.

And then all the other categories were lame and boring.

But overall, I thought it was like a decent show.

Country does remote award shows better than any other award show.

So it's never boring.

I thought Keith Urban and Mickey Guyton did a good job.

And they had a lot of tech issues.

Big time.

Like when Carly Parse and Lee Bryce won I Hope for, I Hope You're Happy Now, they put up on the screen, I hope, by Gabby Babbitt.

So we were thinking, like, did somebody press the wrong I hope, or was I Hope really supposed to win and they read the wrong thing on the card?

By the way, but I think that with country music, they wouldn't fix it.

Yeah, right.

Okay.

No, what we learned last night at the ACMs after Luke Bryan won is that there's no integrity.

No, there's no integrity.

Also, like the ACMs, like, what's the point of having them when we have a CMAs?

Well, you could say the same thing about like, you know,

literally American Music Awards, Billboard Music Awards, plus the Grammys.

There's like 75.

That's true.

And I don't mind because I'd like to have more, but I think that ACMs are.

The CMAs hold more weight.

Oh, I was going to say the opposite.

No way.

You think?

No way.

Yeah.

CMAs are like the Grammys of country music.

Oh man, I always thought it was like the CMAs.

No.

Yeah, it is the CMAs.

Thanks.

Sorry.

The ACMs.

Can someone weigh in?

Like, what is a more prestigious award?

It's definitely the CMAs.

You think?

Yes.

Oh, man, I'm shocked.

Okay, well, keeping up with the music news.

From Billboard, Taylor Swift re-recorded Fearless album debuts at number one on the Billboard 200 chart with the year's biggest week.

She's the first woman with three new number one albums in less than a year.

More than 12 years after Taylor Swift notched her first number one album on the Billboard 200 chart with her second studio set, Fearless.

She's back on top of the list with a re-recorded version of the album.

The new set is her ninth number one, and it scores the biggest week of 2021 for any album.

It launches with 291,000 equivalent album units earned in the U.S.

Okay, whatever.

Fearless.

I remember once.

Of course it did.

Let's talk about it.

Do you think all of her re-recordings are going to go number one?

The thing is, is like, I won't, but I feel like people might start to get Taylor Swift fatigued.

Yeah.

Because it's just like a lot from one person.

And like people, especially like celebrities, get like so overexposed and people get like tired of them.

So I just hope she doesn't become like, people don't get annoyed by her.

Yeah.

Because it's just like a lot.

It's like evermore, folklore, fearless, everything, everything.

It's like a lot in one year.

I'm living for it.

Yeah, of course.

But everyone might not be.

No, yeah.

That makes sense.

But I mean, like, it only makes sense for all of them to go number one.

Well, yes.

As they should.

So what I was going to say is, sorry, my leg is asleep.

I'm literally dying.

What I was going to say is that I feel like Fearless even, you know, literally sleeping on the mic.

Can you move him?

That's not going to work for us.

Sorry.

We're like recording here.

What I was going to say is that I feel like Fearless isn't even her most popular album.

So I feel like if that one went,

I don't know if you guys can hear.

This is like such a fuck fucking recording.

Magnolia is wailing in the other room.

Margot put her in her crate while we recorded.

Oh my god, and she's normally not like this, but she's been super rampunctious this morning.

I also think she hears our voices, so she's like, oh, these fuckers didn't leave.

They just locked me in a cage.

This is what she does when we record The Snatchler.

Oh, yeah.

Snatcher listeners, they'll know.

I feel like people can't hear it actually.

No.

But I just wanted to use this article as like a launching pad to just hear your thoughts on the re-recording i mean honestly like i wasn't expecting to really like not like care but like love it as much as i did in the sense of like it's the only thing i can listen to yeah and i just wasn't seeing that for myself that's so great and I just really am rediscovering how good some of her songs are.

And like, like the way I loved you, like, I always knew it was good, but like, no, it's fantastic.

Change, like, just re-appreciate these songs.

And then even I love, like, Mr.

Perfectly Fine.

is so good.

Is so good.

It's just like when you have so much music,

like I forget that there are so many of of these songs like i loved them 10 years ago but now that i'm giving i've been given this like opportunity on a silver platter from taylor swift to like spend time in my 20s reliving the music of my teens it's it's so nostalgic it's so nostalgic it's so wonderful and i'm just curious because jackie and i spoke a little bit about like what are your thoughts on the fact that like mostly everything remains unchanged are you happy about it i think it makes complete sense because the reason we can't forget that the reason why she re-recorded is so that she would like own these songs.

So it's like when anyone wants goes into love story by Taylor Taylor Swift, they go to the Taylor's version because that's a love story that they know.

Yeah.

Not like a different, do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

You have to recreate.

If you want to like capture the hearts of everyone again, you have to recreate what made everyone love it.

I'm completely in agreement.

So as much as I wanted her to like, you know, do some tour versions.

Yeah.

What I think she should do and will do, like, Fearless didn't really have too many tour versions.

It didn't make sense.

But like for a red or a 1989, I think that she'll release both.

Like how she did the Forever and Always piano version too.

Yeah.

I think she's going to do tour version plus regular.

If If there's not an out of the woods tour version, I just want to let you know, like, I will be driving up to Miss Swift's house and camping outside with a...

big ass poster board that says, let me in, I need to talk to you.

Or let me.

Let me in.

That's what I was thinking too.

The TikTok sounds.

Let me in, please.

Me and Margo this whole weekend are just like TikTok sounds and everyone around us is like, what are you doing?

No, you'll sit outside with a poster that says, Sydney.

Literally, like, that's all she needs to know.

I'm so, what do you think is next and which album are you most excited for?

I don't know why she wouldn't go in order.

Well, she already didn't go in order because the debut album was missed.

So do we know that she's doing that?

I don't know.

It's like, to be honest, I don't really need it.

No, I don't need it.

I think she just is skipping it.

Okay.

And that, because maybe, like, that wasn't part of the big machine.

Like, that might have been.

No, it was.

Like, all the albums are.

Oh.

No, I think that she, I would like to believe she's going in order mainly just because I need Speak Now.

I don't want 1989 right now.

I want Speak Now.

I would literally give my left titty, which is bigger than my right one, for $19.89, but I'm also be really really happy with speak now and i do think it's going to be speak now me too i think it just makes most sense well we're happy for her for you know you know that these milestones mean a lot to her like hitting number one getting the grammy so some artists don't care about those accolades but taylor's made it abundantly clear like through her documentary and all her different platforms that this stuff is really important to her yeah so all these like whatever billboards saying she's you know the first person to have three number one albums in under that's fucking nuts in under a year with folklore evermore and fearless so and like not to compare but i'm gonna compare it like ariana grande remember she released both thank you next and and Sweetener, and they both went number one.

It's like, oh my god, nobody, who could ever beat that?

Are you always pitting women against each other?

No, no, no.

I just think it's

I just think it's an important distinction.

Distinction.

No, but I'm constantly pitting women against each other here on the show.

And

I'm not doing it on purpose.

Does that go over well for you?

No, I just think it's important.

Like for reference.

No, just reference.

Sorry there's so many women just killing.

Also, by the way, because I do think I keep up with like any male artists in their records besides Luke Holmes.

Right.

No, so this is just like a big deal for Taylor.

We're really happy for her.

We love you.

If you ever want to come on the toast, just like, you know, imagine.

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Okay, next story.

Want to issue a slight trigger warning because we are going to be talking about eating disorders, bulimia.

I don't know if you've seen this story, but it is so weird, and I'm dying to hear your opinion on it.

Demi Lovato calls out an LA frozen yogurt shop for selling sugar-free options.

Big chill?

Yes.

How do you know?

I just said, I, wait, what?

You don't know the story, but you knew the frozen yogurt place?

Yeah, because everyone's obsessed with the big chill because it's like literally like zero sugar, like zero calories, and tastes like fucking frozen yogurt.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, I had no idea.

Okay.

So

this is not my words.

This is page six's words.

Demi Lovato needed to take a big chill pill.

The Dancing with the Devil singer blasted a Los Angeles-based frozen yogurt shop, The Big Chill, for carrying sugar-free varieties, saying it was triggering for her as a woman recovering from an eating disorder.

She posted an Instagram story like all black with just text, finding it extremely hard to order Froyo from at the Big Chill official when you have to walk past tons of sugar-free cookies slash other diet foods before you get to the counter, she wrote on her Instagram story.

Do better, please.

She also added the hashtag, hashtag diet culture vultures.

The Big Chill wasn't sweet on the critique and later defended itself on the shop's Instagram story.

And they tagged the star writing, we carry items for diabetics, celiac disease, vegan, and of course we have many indulgent items as well.

The sorry, not sorry singer, who has been candid about her battle with bulimia, also shared her direct messages with the big chill on her story.

So they were like going back and forth.

Oh my god.

And Demi screenshotted them and posted them.

They responded to her, we are not diet culture vultures.

Diet vultures, sorry.

We cater to all of our customers' needs for the past 36 years.

We are sorry you found this offensive.

Unwilling to relent in her criticism, Lovato said her experience there was triggering and awful.

She wrote this whole thing.

She said, your service was terrible, so rude.

The whole experience was triggering and awful.

You carry things for other people while also caring about.

Oh, you can carry things for other people while also caring for another percentage of your customers who struggle daily just to even step foot in your store.

So, didn't they say they have indulgent things as well?

You can find a way to provide an inviting environment for all people with different needs.

Going back and forth.

They stopped answering her because I mean, it's

then she wrote again.

She came up with some marketing suggestions and sent them the way of the frozen yogurt chop.

I was thinking, maybe it would help, sorry, maybe it would help if you made it more clear that the sugar-free options and vegan options are for that.

Labeling the snacks for celiacs or vegans or diabetes, when it's not super clear, the messaging gets confusing and being in LA is really hard to distinguish from diet culture versus health needs.

I think clearer messaging would be more beneficial for everyone.

You aren't wrong for catering to many different needs, but it's about not excluding one demographic to cater to the others.

They stopped answering her.

She was just going on and on.

They left her on red.

And I, um, I was really shocked by this story.

I get what she's saying in the end, the marketing part.

It's like, if that's what it's for, like, you could say that.

But I just, I feel like there's not a difference between like big chill and like tasty delight.

No, no, no.

I have so many things to say.

First of all, I just want to say like, I don't in any way want to discredit the fact that like Demi Lovato walked into a frozen yogurt shop and was triggered by, you know, the trauma of her past because that's very real.

But I also think she needs to read the room a little bit.

Like,

you're a megastar in the middle of a pandemic, publicly shaming a local business that's probably like barely staying afloat.

And I just think like there are a million and one ways you could have handled this situation.

And Demi Lovato woke up and chose the worst one.

Yeah, I agree.

And then also, it's like, I don't, it's like, it's different if they were like marketing is like, eat our, eat our ice cream to lose weight.

Right.

You know, no, it's just not.

They have this basket of cookies.

I saw the picture and it was like, you know, guilt-free cookies.

And I'm not a proponent of diet culture at all.

I'm actually very against it.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Like,

to be honest, and that might be an unpopular opinion, but I think that like this was a really weird hill that Demi chose to die on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I don't endorse it in any way.

And I think it's actually really out of touch of her.

Me too.

To like disparage.

Not even

down.

Yeah.

She didn't stop like berating them non-stop.

It's one thing to post one story, which I wouldn't even agree with, but non-stop.

Like, yeah, come on, like,

take a big chill pill, like, for real.

No, it ain't right.

I just thought this was so weird.

And I follow her.

So I was like seeing these stories go down.

I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

I'm like, this is an alternate universe type of shit.

Yeah, no, that is so random.

I'm like, if you would have told me that Demi Loboto and the big chill would be in a fight.

Beefing.

Hilarious.

So again, not discrediting the fact that like she definitely like was triggered by that.

I just think it's like the girl.

Like read the response was so extra.

Yeah.

Read the room.

Okay, next up, Chris Evans responds to Lizzo's drunk DM, and her reaction is perfect.

Oh my God, I love this story.

Do you follow Lizzo on TikTok?

I don't follow her.

Actually, I might.

I don't know, but she just always comes up.

Me too.

I follow her, and she has such good content.

So Lizzo was proving she's the real superhero after Chris Evans responded to her flirty DM.

A day after posting a TikTok video revealing that she sent the 39-year-old Knives Outstar a DM,

she's now celebrating the fact that Chris has indeed responded.

So she she said, no shame in drunk DMing, God knows who.

I've done worse things on this app, LOL.

He sent Lizzo, according to the video she posted, which is below.

So she's been chronicling this whole thing on

TikTok.

It's been so funny.

And he, I wonder if he responded because like

her TikTok like made so much news.

By the way, yes.

Because by the way, her DM to, 100%, because her DM to him was like random emojis.

Yeah.

It wasn't about DMing someone, but her, her TikTok was about being drunk and DMing celebrities.

So then his response is being about that.

Yeah, because he said no shame in a drunk DM kissy face emoji.

God knows I've done worse on this app, LOL.

Face palm emoji.

Yeah.

Okay, like what if they started dating?

And like an all-star.

Is he single?

Yeah.

He is?

Who does he date?

I don't know.

I always get him confused.

Oh my God, Margot.

Don't even start.

That woman, Jamie.

Wait,

Jamie Dornan?

No, no, no, no.

It's a woman.

Wait, you get Chris Evans confused with a girl?

No.

Slate.

Jamie Slate.

Shit, what is it?

Jenny Slate.

Oh, they used to date.

Yes, that's him.

Yeah, yeah, that's him.

That's him.

But me and Jackie, I can't even, the toasters are going to kill me if I bring this up again.

Okay.

Me and Jackie can never figure out who's Chris Evans, who's Chris Pine.

And there's also another one in there.

Chris Hemsworth.

No, we know him.

Yeah.

We know Miley's ex-boyfriend's brother for sure.

Of course.

But no, I believe, according to a very quick Google search, he is currently single.

Oh.

And he's also like, now that I'm on TikTok, like Gen Z is obsessed with him.

I didn't realize that.

Oh, yeah, I've gotten to that.

It's because of Marvel.

Can I say something like kind of crazy?

Did you say he's not hot?

He's handsome for sure, but I don't think he's like, you know, cream your pants.

Like, everyone dies for him.

No, I think he's so beautiful.

He kind of like,

no, he's handsome for sure.

Why?

No, he, like, I'm just looking at this picture of him and like, maybe I'm hungover, but like.

What?

I'm just not getting like what everyone's getting.

What you see?

No.

Is that a bad picture of him?

I mean, it's not the greatest, but it's still a good photo.

You know who he looks like?

Who?

TJ Osborne.

But you've lost TJ Osborne.

Yeah, TJ Osbourne's hot as hell.

Like, they just kind of look like.

No, I'm not saying he's ugly.

Like, what?

I just, I'm like, this is the guy that everyone's dying over.

I just don't necessarily see it.

I understand.

Especially, like, if I'm going to think of Chris Evan versus Chris Pine, Chris Pine is way hotter.

I can't even, I can't picture who Chris Pine is.

Yeah.

No, welcome to the morning toast.

Like, we literally cannot figure it out.

But I'm really happy for Lizzo.

I hope that you got a response.

It's always awkward when you don't.

I know.

And, you know, Lizzo has just been like so funny recently.

And I feel like her TikToks are really making a lot of waves and news.

Also, I didn't want to talk about this, but really quickly, did you see that Chrissy Tegan returned to Twitter?

Yes.

It's been three weeks.

If that.

And she made like a whole stink about leaving Twitter and now she came back.

And honestly, she's starting to annoy me.

Starting.

No, me and Jackie have figured out.

I'm getting the vibe that you don't listen to the podcast like ever.

I don't.

Okay, you don't.

Just confirming that.

Only when you talk, call me a bitch.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

Fucking snitches in your dms okay

so me and jackie came to the conclusion like a year ago that like chrissy teigen actually is not annoying the media makes her have to be so annoying it's like she'll just go about her day posting on social media and breastfeed writes 1 000 articles about how it's like a most life-changing recipe i understand she'll be like you know what we need to back off because it's really not her it's the machine

I take that back.

Like, that is wild behavior.

Like, making a whole, she literally had a funeral like for her Twitter.

Like, all these tweets.

And then, you know, how emotional it is and three weeks later she's back like you just tortured us like yeah no also like i think anybody could have guessed that she was gonna come back so i wouldn't have she made such a big ordeal yeah she literally like it's crazy like i don't have twitter i've never had twitter like i don't feel that for twitter yeah at all no i there's a special like deep pocket of hatred in my heart for twitter and everyone who's ever had success on twitter i wonder why no i don't know

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Fifth and final story is something that shook us to our fucking core yesterday.

Courtney Kardashian, Courtney Kardashian's boyfriend, Travis Barker, shares naughty birthday tribute.

Travis Barker wished his girlfriend of several months, Courtney Kardashian, a happy 42nd birthday with a PDA-filled wardrobe.

Wardrobe?

PDA-filled tribute.

Well, I know why I said the word wardrobe.

I'm so sorry.

Like I said, my neck hurts and I'm hungover.

All right.

Courtney Kardashian and Travis Barker.

On Sunday, April 18th, the Blink182 musician posted a very naughty tribute to his girlfriend for her 42nd birthday.

He posted on his Instagram page several photos of him and the Keeping Up with the Kardashian star, making out and showing other types of PDA, as well as a video of her sucking his thumb

suggestively before falling back and laughing.

Courtney liked his post and he captioned it, I fucking love you.

Black heart emoji.

You're a blessing to this world.

Happy birthday, Courtney Kardashian.

So let me start off by saying, since you've made it abundantly clear that you do not listen to this podcast.

Have you listened to The Snatcher?

All the time.

Really?

Yeah.

I swear.

No, you don't.

I swear.

You're literally the biggest counts liar.

I swear I listen to chunks of every episode.

It's my job.

Like TNN, I literally listen.

And also, I like the Bachelor.

So like I obviously listen to the recap.

So don't fucking start with me.

Me and Jack are always talking about it on the toast.

If you ever fucking listen to it.

Okay.

Are you okay?

no i'm literally my neck is broken like i'm just on the struggle bus 2010 okay okay

i just wanted to say like before we dove in that i

up until this point have been like obsessed with with this couple like no i haven't i think that they're perfect i just have been like loving how like corny's acting so like you know free and whatever this a little too free for me yeah no no no that video Also, if you didn't see it, it's just important to note.

It's not like they're like walking and she's sucking his finger.

Like they're laying on a bed, his finger is like where his pee-pee is.

It's like from the POV of someone getting a blowjob.

Literally.

And when I first saw it, and I think when we passed it around the room, like when everyone first saw it, you literally thought for one second it was Courtney Kardashian.

Sex saves.

Second dick.

Yeah.

So it was like an optical illusion.

And I'm glad that she's like feeling free and fun.

It just did gross me out a little bit.

It's just a lot of weirdness for someone who's, you know, maybe.

Normally so reserved.

Not only that, for like the last few years has really pushed on

keeping up with the Kardashians, like wanting to live a much more like private life.

And I don't know, just like putting a thumb-sucking video is not like the private life I had envisioned for Courtney Kardashian.

No.

And like, he definitely like asked her if he could post it, right?

Of course, she likes the post, therefore approving the concept.

Yeah.

The direction.

The creative direction.

The creative direction.

So I'm shook.

I think the world was shook.

And I said to Jackie, I'm like, I'm so obsessed with them.

I don't ever want to be like not obsessed with them because I actually think they're a really good couple.

And I think I've gotten to the point where I'm not obsessed with them.

I'm sorry.

And I never wanted that for myself, like ever.

Yeah.

I mean, but the thing is, like, that always happens.

I know.

It's inevitable.

Like, I used to remember how much I used to love Dan and Shay?

Yeah, I do.

Like, obsessed.

Now, what are your thoughts?

Now, I can't stand them.

Yeah.

Their music is just not what it was.

It's like, it's one too many, like, lame pop songs for me.

I should probably go to bed.

Yeah.

It's, it's the pop songs for me.

It's the pop songs for me.

I agree.

So back to Courtney.

I'm happy that she's happy, but I'm like getting less obsessed.

And that upsets me because the other pictures in the slideshow were really cute.

They're so cute.

And they were like a little PDA, but they're cute.

Like they're graceful.

They're obviously like a freaky couple.

Yeah.

And they've made that very clear.

And I'm happy for them.

This one video took it way too far.

And it really, like, I thought about it all day.

Like, it grows me up.

I thought about it all day after I saw it.

Okay, well, we'll keep you abreast on the Kravis of it all.

Kravis, is that their name?

That's what I saw, like, people saying on Instagram.

Is that not it?

I know, I haven't seen anything.

Kravis, I think it's cute.

Okay, it sounds like Kravitz.

Yes, it does.

Yeah, um, we'll keep you abreast on the whole Courtney and Travis situation.

Um,

happy for them, happy for them.

Know that I am.

Know that I am.

Um, so that's our episode.

Is there anything you wanted to share with the um toasters like before we bounced?

Like, more life updates?

Like, I wish I had a life update.

Everyone always thinks I'm like being so sneaky.

It's like you're secretly married.

I wish.

No, no, you know, I'm just being the snatchy.

Being snitchy.

Being stitchy.

And how has it been being stitchy?

It's been like pretty great.

I feel like the most myself I ever have.

That's great.

I think it's my haircut.

You also like went through it in the pandemic, like from an emotional, mental standpoint.

Yes.

And we saw some of that unraveling on your social media.

And that's why I had to stop it.

And are you doing better?

Like, yeah, I'm way better.

I'm also just way more aware of like my feelings in the sense of like, if I'm feeling anxious or depressed, like I, I can recognize it and then like act swiftly as opposed to letting myself spiral.

And you're now like almost a year into therapy.

Yes.

And it's helped.

It's helped.

It's just like, I don't know what it, like, people, like, some people like die for therapy, but like when I know that I have therapy, like it gives me anxiety because it's like it gives me a pick.

So I'm like, oh, I have to go unpack everything that's happened in the past two weeks.

We don't have to talk about it.

We don't have to talk about it.

But then once it's done, I just feel like a weight's been lifted.

Is there like, you feel like a visible difference in how you feel before and after therapy?

Oh my God.

Yeah.

Did you not have that?

No.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm really on the struggle bus with therapy.

I understand.

I think it's about finding the right person, which is what everybody says, but like how many times do you want to have to unload on?

Yeah, so I've done it twice already.

And it's like, I have to go start again.

No, I agree.

It's exhausting to like give the download.

Like also the first one is the worst one.

Yep.

Trying to tell someone like all the major things that like just make you.

And there's so many.

Yeah, of course.

So much trauma.

So much trauma to unpack.

So I, yeah, doing it like multiple times.

It's, it's exhausting.

Okay.

Well, thank you for being brave and talking about your story.

Oh, yeah.

Anything else you want to promote, share?

Like, listen to the snapser, follow me on Instagram.

I like haven't gotten more followers in like a year.

Oh, no, you guys.

We must ameliorate that situation immediately.

Ameliorate it.

No, that's it.

Love you guys.

Love you.

Thank you.

Thank you, counts.

I know you're like a busy queen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But we appreciate you coming here and giving us your royal expertise because I'm just so royal.

We're so not worthy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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