S4 Ep19: You Are NOT The Father with Maury Povich: Friday, January 29th, 2021

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Friday, Friday.

Gotta get down on Friday.

Why are you singing like that?

Because I'm so overjoyed, excited, and feeling blessed that today is Friday, and I can't feel my ears.

Why?

Because they're being pulled back so tight in this bun.

That's like not a descriptor of a bun.

I thought maybe you're cold, you can't feel your ears, but we need to talk about the bun.

No, I cannot feel like my scalp.

Like it's just like, uh, and my bun is like lopsided, but it has a lot of character and personality.

I think it looks so fabulous.

I think this is like one, I think this is the beginning of something really beautiful for you in the updo category.

I mean, it's not my best.

No, I mean, it takes time and practice.

Like I'm looking at myself in the monitor and it's like kind of lopsided and I kind of look like Cindy Luhu.

But it just takes time and it's not, it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect.

Yeah, I mean, don't worry, it's not.

Yeah.

Absolutely perfect.

But I really wanted to thank you for the encouragement and the wise words.

That's what I do.

I encourage.

Because if I can just find a way to live my life without like blowing out my hair every day, not only will it be better for my hair health, but my mental health as well.

Yeah.

And it's always fun to switch it up.

I think it looks great.

Thank you.

I think it's like a fun new silhouette.

I think everyone who's watching is definitely like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Right.

And if in a week's time, I'm like so embarrassed, like, we'll just delete the episode.

And I just, I feel like we always need to find new ways to spice things up around here.

And an update is one of those.

Maybe on Monday I'll wear a hat again.

You never know.

That's so true because it could become, you know, quite monotonous if we don't constantly change things up.

If we don't constantly change things up.

I'm changing things up today by wearing a full-on sweatsuit.

Like I don't even...

I mean, it's toast merch, so I'm within the confines of your rights.

Of acceptability.

I'm within my rights.

But like, I'm just in pain today, and I just had to call it, you know?

Well, I was in pain until I just remembered that we secured for this episode the interview of a lifetime.

At the end of this episode, so after the Fast Five and our Southern Charm recap, we are so humbled to be joined by someone we have been a fan of for a very long time.

The one and only Maury Povich.

You are not the father.

You are not.

And he really, I mean, he's obviously a fantastic orator because he's the longest running TV show host in history.

But it also translates into him being like a great guest and just like answering questions, providing context.

He really was a fabulous guest.

He was like very wise and super funny, and he's going into his 23rd season.

And there's just so much that goes on like behind the scenes at Maury.

So much that goes on and so you're going to hear about some of that.

I mean I know people are going to be disappointed because Claudia teased on her Instagram last night that we had a very special important guest whose name starts with an M and obviously all the Mavdia stands came out thinking it was going to be Maverick.

Yeah, I'm sorry, but you can't even be disappointed because it's so iconic that we have Maury on the show.

So iconic.

And like Maverick can come on another time.

Anytime he wants to.

He's always welcome.

He has an open door policy at the Morning Toast.

A lot of people also thought it was Matt James, but that wouldn't be unexpected because we cover The Bachelor.

Yeah, but we might have like hyped it up in that way.

That's a good guess.

Yeah, but no, it's Maury Povich.

And like, if you know me, like, you know how exciting this was.

When I got the email, I was like, Jackie, we have to do this.

Yeah.

Iconic.

And he was so nice.

So nice.

So that's at the end of the episode.

A nice little catch-up with our good friend Maury.

Just to get you into the weekend.

And before we get into everything, I just, I would be RDH if I didn't do a little Redheads promo because not only do I love to tell you about the Redheads, but this episode is more pertinent than ever because Claudia is on the Redheads.

The Redheads episode is available now.

We are talking all about her book.

We are going deep.

We are asking specific questions.

We're getting clarifications.

We're getting inspirations.

And if you read the book and you want to follow up, The Redheads Book Club has the episode for you.

T-R-B-C.

T-R-B-C.

It's everything you need.

And then we also, our regular scheduled Redheads uploads next week.

So it's just a great time to be a Redhead, much like anytime is a great time to become a Redhead.

I couldn't agree more.

And now that you are a redhead, an honorary redhead, do you feel what I'm saying when I say, like, it's always a good time?

Always.

Especially because we're coming up on our one-year anniversary of

redheads.

Yeah, we have some exciting anniversary things.

That's so cute.

I love that.

And it's like, it's been a year.

Still a great time to become a redhead.

It's been a year.

And it's still a great time.

Oh, that you meant like, it's been a year.

No, no, no.

I meant it's been a year of redheads.

We've done 15 episodes, and it's still a great time to become a redhead.

Could Could not agree more.

It's never too late.

Ever.

Ever.

You could give a little more oomph.

Ever.

Ever.

Ever, ever.

In your enthusiasm for TRBC.

I'm sorry, I'm just so distracted by the Friday-ness of it all.

Like, I never thought we would get here.

I know.

It was the end of my.

Oh, sorry, it was a doozy of a week.

Not for me.

No, like a doozy, not in a negative way.

Just like it was a lot of week.

It was so much weak.

I've never been so tired in my life, but it's all paid off because

my memoir, Girl Within a Job, is out and the reviews are in and they're, oh my god, wow, kind of stellar.

It was a Freudian drop.

Stop.

No, no, no, because I was so, my, my mouth hit the floor, but my jaw dropped, and that's why I dropped the book.

When reading the reviews of my book, people are just finding it, some people are saying, inspirational.

So I just wanted to put that out there in case you're still kind of nervous, like on the fence.

I'm here telling you, get off the fence.

You can do it.

Girlwithnojob.com/slash book.

And I just feel like sometimes when you read a book, like you just want to talk about it.

And that's why the Redheads episode is so great.

Because you just get to hear your best friend.

I'm trying to help you promote you.

I'm agreeing with you.

You are very defensive about the Redheads.

I'm very defensive about my passion projects that I just don't feel like had enough enthusiasm from you.

Are you kidding me?

I've been sitting here for the last 10 minutes.

Yeah, yeah, forever, ever.

That's not, that's not genuine.

I'm sorry that you, maybe that's something you should work out in therapy that you don't accept compliments.

Because like I'm really here cheering you on and you don't think it's genuine.

Maybe it's something you should work out in therapy that you think, yeah, yeah, is a compliment.

It is.

Yeah, yeah.

Eva, ever.

Yes.

That's complimentary, and you cannot change my mind.

Okay, well, head over to the Redheads for more of this.

Pretty much.

So, yes, we'll be recapping Southern Charm.

We'll be back on our regularly scheduled Bravo recap programmings next week.

Like I said, this week was just a doozy because of my book.

Yeah.

So congratulations on a great pub week.

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You get one more episode this month, and it's going to be Jackie O in Ben.

Talking about our cleanse, taking all of your cleanse questions.

I'm really excited to go, like, find out what he thought about it.

I actually, like, miss my cleanse days.

I miss like having a purpose and like knowing what I was going to be eating or drinking for the whole day instead of just like flying by the seat in my pants and just eating chips all day.

You have a purpose.

What's my purpose?

Toast the morning toast.

That's true, but then like the day's over.

I just meant purpose in terms of like my health and line.

Well, right now I just am like free falling.

Free falling.

I'm free.

Free falling.

That's pretty.

Thank you, Claudia.

Let's get into it.

Thanks, Claudia.

I put my heart into it.

Thank you, Hannah.

That's beautiful.

No, but

when you said I know.

Thanks, Amanda.

It came from my heart.

That's what it is.

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I haven't watched my comedy special in so long.

I'm starting to like malfunction.

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I'm like, it came from beautiful.

So just quit so we can properly quote it.

Maybe we'll watch it this weekend.

Oh, for sure.

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Okay, first story.

I'm going to sing a song.

I want you to guess the story.

Okay.

Just stop your crying, it's a sun.

Kardashian trailer, season 20.

Trailer drops for final season of Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

And they use an iconic Harry style song.

And they use an iconic Harry style song and it is a tearjerker.

So, I mean, it's also like a little dramatic considering like there will be a season one of a new season and and we're still gonna see them.

But it's sad because they're saying goodbye to the cast and crew that they've worked with.

Who they're very connected to.

They're very connected to.

So it's like they're saying goodbye to the people who made the show what it is and they're not saying goodbye to the audience.

No, they're saying goodbye to their casting crew and good morning to the millennials.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Literally.

So the trailer dropped.

Honestly, it looks so good.

Very emotional.

But again, just dramatic considering they're coming back via Hulu.

But like Kim's crying.

Yeah, I mean, them like playing with us, like Scott and Courtney are taking a nap together.

Like those two, it's like, I've, we've let the dream die.

Like, yeah.

The Courtney and Scott fans, like, we don't exist anymore.

No, and at this point, if they got back together, I would be upset.

After all they went through.

I want so much different for both of them.

Like Courtney and Travis, Barker.

Yeah, I like it.

I would love to see it.

Scott, right now, he's in the doghouse with the Amelia Hamlin.

I'm not even going to talk about the new relationship.

It's so inappropriate.

It's so inappropriate.

So I would like to see something else for him something healthier but i ship them separately i have two ships for yeah one for each of them and i ship them on a strictly platonic co-parenting boat yeah yeah i agree so the

season premieres um 2020 in march 18th sorry of 2021.

oh that's sooner than i expected yeah it's on the it's in the near future but it's still kind of far away yeah but they'd love to do that to us i'm surprised it wasn't for june yeah yeah no i agree like Like when they drop the trailer, I'm like, okay, it'll be by the end of the year.

I can't wait to see the show.

But it's not that far away.

I'm like excited to see it, obviously, but I don't really even want it to come because knowing that we still have one more season like brings me solace.

Even though, again, they are doing another show with Hulu.

Who knows what that format's going to be?

I have no idea.

Yeah.

So it's the unknown.

And this show has been so good to us.

And it's really just...

Been a huge part of our lives.

So it will be bittersweet to watch.

Yeah, it's been a huge, I mean, everyone remembers where they were when they first started watching.

Like we, I think we both really pride ourselves on like having watched Keeping Up with the Kardashians organically from season one.

And by season three, like they were so famous.

And like they were like ours.

Cause like we just love them like they were sisters.

And then like everyone started to love them.

But like we love them first.

Yeah.

I think everyone feels that way.

Yeah, but I also feel like I've loved them forever, except there was like one time when I was just like really not feeling them and it was after the Chris Humphries and I just

I could not reconcile my feelings and and I just felt really bad for him.

I think everyone went through a phase during that time where they were like of confusion, like not knowing what's real, what like

it turned out that like a lot of the footage that they filmed of keeping up with the Kardashians of Kim like expressing some of her doubts was filmed afterwards.

Like it felt like we got duped and I think a lot of people felt offensive of Chris Humphreys because even though on the show they made him look terrible, like what they ended up doing to that man was like disgraceful.

Yeah.

So that was just like a hard time, but we we came out of it and we came through it.

And I feel okay about it.

I still feel like Kim and Chris like maybe could have made it work.

Me too.

But I just if they weren't living in an apartment with Courtney and Scott.

I do think though that like that period where a lot of the world kind of was done with them benefited them greatly.

Like I think that they

needed that sort of reset and they needed to get back to like their roots of being real.

Like they got so caught up in this like fabulous TV show that everyone loves and they wanted to make it so good that they literally started scripting it.

And it was so disappointing.

And I think that a lot of people expressing their disappointment reset them completely.

And they went back to like their roots of really organic filming and not taking, you know, all of this for granted.

So, of course, you know, that's honestly one of the moral of the stories in my book.

It's like everything really happens for a reason.

Yeah.

But justice for Chris Humphreys.

Yes, of course.

Okay, next story.

I don't know if you read this article, but Catherine Heigl is coming out of the woodwork.

She's got a new show on Netflix and she sat down with the Washington Post for an in-depth interview.

She's needed one of those.

Mentioning it all.

Oh, wow.

She has needed one of those for a while.

Yes.

As we know, Catherine Hagel was our rom-com queen for so many years.

Then it, like, came out that she was, quote, difficult to work with.

She had said some things that upset some people.

And then the whole Emmys thing.

The Emmys thing where, okay, so she won an Emmy for her character on Grey's Anatomy.

And then the following year, she didn't go to the award show.

She said, quote, I did not feel that I was given the material this season to warrant an Emmy nomination.

And in an effort to maintain the integrity of the Academy organization, I withdrew my name from contention.

That's an insane fucking narcissist, like that's just the craziest thing to say and such a slap in the face to like Shonda Rhimes and the writers of Gray's Anatomy.

Yeah, so after that, like no one

she was done, I think like people didn't want to work with her and I guess audiences sort of turned on her because some of her movies didn't really perform well.

But it's really crazy now if you read this Washington Post article, it's like the things that she said then, like it was just a few things that made her quote difficult.

Like if that happened today, she would be probably celebrated for standing up for herself.

She also said that the movie Knocked Up was like a little,

I don't know the exact word, a little sexist, something like that, which is like.

That's a fair assessment.

You could be critical of art.

Yeah.

So I think a lot of people took it as she was ungrateful for her celebrity.

I didn't think that, but to me, the

Emmys thing was like the one thing that she did that was like so nuts and like so rude to like all the people who work so hard and like so celebrity.

Like I withdrew my name from contention.

like that's just so obnoxious put me in coach kind of hysterical i don't even remember that part happening i just remember like she just got this reputation for being a diva hard to work with and i'm grateful for the opportunity for like the roles that she had had no i know about all this now but when i experienced it she was on my she was in the movie theaters every weekend like with a new movie new movie new movie and then poof she was gone like yeah that's how i recall it and then she resurfaced when I just started to do a little research.

I'm like, whatever happened to Catherine Heigl and she like lived this fabulous life.

she got married to the lead singer from lady antebellum's brother yes who came on the morning breath and was so lovely and he's a musician himself his name is josh kelly and he's also quoted in the article talking about his katie Oh, that's cute.

Oh my god, and then they moved to Utah, like the best life ever.

End of the article is hysterical because it was like, I guess everyone calls her Katie.

We call her Catherine.

And the interviewer was like, now that, you know, you're moving forward, do you want people to call you Katie or Catherine?

Like Anne Hathaway, you know, wants to be called Annie.

And she was like, you can call me anything.

Just don't call me difficult.

That's funny.

Yeah.

Actually, I would read this article.

That's very interesting.

It's really, really good.

So she talks about like sort of also the mental health journey that she went on, like in a lot of the anxiety that she lived with after all of this had happened and the things that she, like going to therapy and things that she did to sort of overcome it.

But now she is in a new show on Netflix called, it's based on a book by Kristen Hanna,

Firefly Lane, and it's about like a friendship between two women.

She plays a TV show host.

She is like over the course of 20 years.

And Kristen Harana is a great author.

And she wrote Nightingale, which is a great book.

And so

I feel like this has a like

all the makings of a great show.

I am here for the comeback of Catherine Heigl.

I've always been interested by her.

I love her marriage.

I love the fact that she lives in Utah.

And I will be her champion.

I will watch her show.

I'm here for it.

Also, our king, James Marsden, is also quoted in the article where he talks about, because they're good friends.

No, no, no.

They're good friends.

And he just is always like, she's always been so opinionated and so

and like ambitious and driven.

And like to him, hearing her say those things, it wasn't, it wasn't crazy to him.

No, and it also, like, but not in a negative way, just like the way it came off to everybody who didn't know her sounded so much worse.

Of course.

And by the way, it's worth mentioning that if Catherine Heigl was a man, nobody would have thought she was difficult.

They would be like, good for him for having artistic integrity.

Right, right.

So the whole thing, the whole arc of her career is really interesting.

And I'm glad to see her coming back to the screen.

How did you, what movie was James Marsden in with?

27 Dresses.

Oh, right, right.

Yes.

That's actually like probably one of my least favorite Catherine Heigl movies.

Yeah.

Oh my god, it's wife as we know it.

So good.

It's one of my favorite Catherine Heigl movies.

It's so good.

And who's the girl in Win a Date with Chad Hamilton?

Is that Catherine Heigl?

No.

It's like a random girl, right?

She never like became

such a good movie.

And now I'm looking at her.

Yeah, let's go through.

She did that terrible one with Gerard Butler.

That was the beginning of the end.

The ugly truth.

The beginning of the thing.

And I think that one did okay.

I think that's a good one.

And that wasn't my favorite one.

No, I think One for the Money was the beginning of the end.

That's what they said.

What else?

She was just like a cash cow.

Oh, she was in New Year's Eve.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Like, we just put so much disrespect on her name.

Her number one movie of all time, Wish Upon a Star.

Oh, from Disney Channel?

Yes.

Yeah, was it Jessica Beale in that too?

No.

Oh.

But that is the best movie ever.

I concur.

You woke up today and you could speak any language and you decided to speak facts.

And I commend you for that because it's a really brave thing to do.

To just own your truth.

And you're right.

You're right.

Yeah.

What other movies?

This movie Unforgettable, which I think was sort of a not great one.

Life as We Know It, obviously.

Killers, Knocked Up, Big Wedding, Home Sweet Hell.

She's been in a lot of movies.

She's been acting since she was a teen.

Was she in a thriller?

I think that's Unforgettable.

Okay, I have to tell you a story about that movie.

So back before I was a disgraced queen, I did a partnership with the movie studio for that movie.

And it was actually really cool because I got to go to an advanced screening.

And you would never know, but like these huge movie studios that have offices in New York, they have these like sick theaters in these high-rise buildings that are like so glamorous.

They look like,

what was the show we were just watching?

Oh my God,

I keep thinking I watched the movie Evelyn Hugo because it's just like in my brain.

You know those old movies where like the movie execs in the 50s are like smoking cigars in these like sexy theaters.

Yes, yes.

That's like where I was, and it was so cool.

And this, oh, you know what that reminds me of?

The show Hollywood.

Yes, that too.

So I went to one of those fabulous places to get an early screening of this movie, Unforgettable, which was like meant to be like a thriller.

And I was in this theater with all these critics, like legit critics who were like reviewing the movie for their publications.

And people were like hysterical laughing.

And it wasn't a comedy.

It was like so cringily bad.

And I think that was her first attempt at a comeback because that was like maybe four years ago.

And now I think this Netflix film and this Washington Post article are better.

I wonder why she chose the Washington Post.

Like, she could have gone anywhere.

Yeah.

And like, print is not like, I always feel like when people are on a redemption tour, like, they should go on long format, like Howard Stern, you know, somewhere they can explain themselves.

Well, I think this was good.

This worked out.

I don't know what her reasoning for it was, but it's good.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Army Hammer's estranged wife, Elizabeth Chambers, breaks silence, which is really an overstatement on the online.

She left an Instagram comment.

She left an Instagram comment on an ongoing controversy.

But the story is really interesting because it was on a post that,

sorry, on a post talking about how Timothy Chalamay and the director of Call Me By Your Name are working together on a project about cannibalism.

Which is just so weird.

And like, was it, were they working on it, you know, a month ago?

I don't know.

I'm sure that they were.

You know, it's like when it rains, it pours, but I just feel like given everything that's happened, maybe they should stop the work on the project.

No, I think that's definitely something worth pursuing, you know, the stopping of the project.

Right.

So it's a the story follows a woman who's on a cross-country trip as she searches for the father she's never met in an attempt to understand why she has the urge to kill and eat the people that love her.

Like, I'm not a movie critic or a film buff by any means, but I just don't think that this is a movie that needs to be made.

It's not a movie.

It's not a story worth telling.

No.

And so Elizabeth Chambers commented on Just Jared's post about that saying no words.

And that's her quote, breaking her silence on the situation.

The Washington Post needs to do an article interview with Elizabeth Chambers.

Like, I need to know what she knows.

Yeah.

There's so much mystery in this Army Hammer story, and there's so much weirdness.

And I just want to know, like, Elizabeth Chambers was...

married to him four years.

Like, I need to know what she knows.

Yeah, I'm sure she knows a lot.

She is a mouthful.

Yeah.

If you want to come on the the toast, Elizabeth Chambers, we would gladly have you.

Yeah.

So I just think we should rethink that movie if we're just.

Yeah, I think that's probably like the wise business decision.

Yeah.

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Okay, new happy couple news, ex-bachelor Nick Vial and Natalie Joy are Instagram official.

I feel like Nick Vial is like the world's most was the world's like most eligible bachelor

and now it seems as though he's off the market.

Nick Vial appeared to confirm his relationship status on Wednesday by posting a video with rumored girlfriend Natalie Joy.

The former bachelor star reposted a clip from her to his Instagram story, which showed him playing a virtual reality game and looking cozy with his gal pal.

Yeah, I mean, if you're like an internet sleuth, like we knew this a while ago.

Yeah, but the story is that like they are good, they've gone public, they're confirming that they are in a relationship, and I think that's really sweet.

I want love and

happiness forever for Nick Vile,

and so I support his relationship.

I agree with you that over the last like couple years, Nick Vile has has become like one of the most eligible bachelors.

Not only is he like art, like just

you can't argue, like he's very handsome.

He's very, his podcast is super successful.

He

has a woke mind and he respects women.

He's very intellectual.

Yeah, that's the word.

Thank you.

Very intellectual.

And I was actually thinking about this the other day.

I think the arc of Nick Vile is not spoken about enough.

Like, a wonderful thing to behold.

A lot of people forget

how hated he was.

People said he was misogynist for calling out Andy Dorfman on mental law saying, why did you have sex with me?

Oh, sorry, why did you make love to me?

And he was like

a villain.

Yeah, and then when he went on Caitlin's season, he was the villain again because like he was threatening her love with Sean.

And he really like came so far from that to then being the bachelor to now being like such a respected former reality TV star.

And we absolutely love to see it.

Yeah, I want to know the PR strategy behind it because I could use some of that good, like, PR.

It's pretty genius.

Like, and I don't think it was like a strategy.

I think it happens.

It's like truly organic.

I think

the evolution of his brand

closely followed just the evolution of himself.

Yeah, which is all you can hope for.

Right.

Because it's so genuine.

So genuine.

Love that for him.

So for him to be at like this love stop on the tour, I'd love to see it.

Beautiful.

He just bought a house, like living the life.

Happy for him.

Living the life.

So happy for them.

Our fifth and final story is a little

biz news is it the stocks it's the stocks it's actually some big fucking biz news you guys like the biz world is a calamity and ever since yesterday I have educated myself I have educated myself and I feel as though I angry I can do a decent job of explaining the situation for people who like need it in layman's terms yes okay so and I think we got what we said yesterday we were we were correct but we we hadn't gotten to the second half of the story which is the corruption the corruption of it all.

The corruption.

The citadel of it all.

The Robin Hood.

Citadel owns Robin Hood.

That was the big exposure.

The craziness.

Okay.

Robin Hood claims to be for the average trader.

To democratize the stock market.

Yeah, like you don't have to work on Wall Street.

Like, this is the platform for everyone.

And here they are yesterday.

I literally opened the app in the morning.

Couldn't trade, couldn't do anything.

I've been on there for a while.

I have like not that much money, but still.

They decided to protect big Wall Street guys, help them cut their losses because they got exposed on Reddit.

And now the everyday trader who they claim to be for

isn't screwed.

Screwed.

Thank you.

So it's just not fair.

They just changed the rules.

The rules have been changed when it's in the middle, like in the middle of a monumental moment for the little guy.

For the little guy.

And like the stock market, I don't know.

I'll never claim to understand the stock market.

I took econ and it was literally like the least sense ever was made in the entire class.

But what I do know is that there are rules and the rules cannot be broken.

And the rules can be broken.

Well, they can be.

Well, right, usually.

As of yesterday, no rules can officially be broken.

It can greatly benefit you or be your downfall.

But the rules have always stayed the same until yesterday.

Right.

Okay.

So some days, like we just decided that we don't want to trade today.

So here's what happened with the Redditors and everything.

So GameStop, which is a very very sort of archaic.

It's not a good stock.

Yeah, it wasn't a good stock.

And a hedge fund realized that they were probably not going to do well.

So they bet against GameStop.

It's called shorting it.

It's called shorting it.

But if you're betting, it's like betting that someone's going to lose, you know?

Right.

And these hedge funds have so much data.

And yesterday it was actually...

It was found out that not only does Robinhood is owned by like major or whatever They also sell your data to hedge funds So they're really like supporting the big guys on Wall Street.

It's really sick.

But up until yesterday, like Robin Hood, we used to do ads for them on the show.

So it's like

right.

So like if you are just a person and you want to buy and sell some stocks, Robinhood is the app for you.

If you're making trades without going through a broker, if you're not part of a hedge fund, like you just use an app like

you just use an app like hedge, like Robin Hood.

Yeah.

And Robin Hood is named after Robin Hood, who would steal from the rich and give to the poor.

And yesterday, they did the exact opposite.

The irony is just.

So a bunch of people on a subreddit channel, Wall Street Bets.

And it's like a popular Reddit.

Before all this, they had like 2 million subscribers.

Now they have literally like 8 million because they accurately predicted a short.

Right.

So they saw that this hedge fund took this position, betting against GameStop.

For like billions of dollars.

Billions of dollars.

So they said, let's all get together, buy up GameStop stock to go up.

to go up to sort of expose the hedge fund and not expose them like in the way that we talk about celebrities, but like expose their weakness, like their money.

Like they would right, no.

So like basically the hedge fund put so much money into GameStop betting that it will lose.

So all these people on Reddit were like, if we all buy it, the stock will go up and the Wall Street guys will literally have made an incorrect analysis and will lose billions of dollars.

Right.

And that's what started to happen yesterday.

The GameStop stock went up over 400%.

They did it with Nokia and AMC Theaters.

Yes.

And the hedge fund that had waged this short bet was losing billions of dollars more than they even have in their fund.

Just love to see it.

So another fund, Citadel, wound up covering their

giving them the money so that they didn't go belly up.

And that's where Citadel's involvement comes.

Oh, that's interesting.

Did I make up the Citadel owns?

Ben told me that it was a lot of money.

I hadn't heard that.

But I also haven't been online this morning.

No, Ben told me that yesterday.

So

game stops up 400%.

The hedge funds are losing billions of dollars.

The little people on Reddit who came together to buy the stock are making a lot of money, like doubling, tripling, quadrupling their initial investment.

And then Robin Hood yesterday decided that they stopped any trading of these stocks.

So if you could not buy more GameStop, if you owned the stock, you could only sell it in an effort to sort of

balance that, like tip the scales back and it cover these big hedge funds that were losing millions of dollars.

The real moral of the story here is a bunch of people on Reddit outsmarted Wall Street, and you just love to see it.

And Wall Street beat them at their own game, fair and square, but they didn't incur the losses that they should have, and that's not fair.

No, that's not fair.

The fact that Robin Hood changed the rules is protecting, like, there's going to be major class action lawsuits.

Like, people should be going to jail for this.

I could, by the way, I could be, I bought AMC stock, and yesterday they would not let me sell or buy more.

Like, I'm involved in the lawsuit on Robin Hood, and I would like my money.

It is so crazy what they did in terms of not letting people buy more GameStop in order to protect these billion-dollar companies

from people who are like the little people.

If we don't have a free market, we don't have anything.

You guys, it's so corrupt.

The corruption runs so deep.

And like, I'm living for like everyone on all spec, like people who are on both sides of the political aisle, people who

have different opinions on everything, like, everyone is agreeing how fucked up this is.

It's like a great moment of unity for us.

No, but it's also like a scary moment of

freedoms being clamped down.

No, I mean, I couldn't agree with you more.

My freedoms definitely feel like they're being clamped.

You look like they're being clamped.

That's why my hair is up.

So, as of today, Robin Hood is like allowing some trading of GameStop.

But people are going to go to jail.

Damage is done, like, so corrupt, so illegal, so unfair.

And I just, it was cra it was really crazy

to watch unfold.

I bought Doge.

What's Doge?

I don't know.

Everyone's talking about it, so I bought it.

Ben told me to do it.

Said, oh, you know what?

Let me check right now.

Because it's a crypto and it was like super low.

I don't fuck with the stock market.

I'm like starting to regret it.

Now I have a good reason not to.

And now I'm starting to regret it.

But so, okay.

Doge is a crypto, so it's like really, really small.

Crypto is interesting.

Okay.

I made $25 and I bought it this morning.

Like, that's pretty good.

So it's 0.05 cents.

And people are saying it's going to go to like $20 or something, which would be crazy.

Ooh.

What if we, oh my God, you guys, what if we get the toasters together to go against a short that hedge fund has hedged their bet?

Hedge it up.

The power of the toasters.

And then everyone will be like, the toasters beat Wall Street.

Hedge it up.

So yeah, Doja Cat is where it's at.

Oh my god, if we could save one stock,

what would it be?

Like, which stock would we choose?

Yeah, like one come, like, because also, what's so upset, like, so morally corrupt about this is that they are betting that GameStop would fail, which is a brick-and-mortar store that's obviously not doing well because of the pandemic.

And, like, Wall Street is going to have made billions of dollars off of the fail, like, the very sad failure

of a store that's been around for a long time.

I forgot about that.

Ben has like a really sentimental story.

I've never set foot in a GameStop in my entire life, but a lot of young

people people have memories of like going into GameStop and Ben like cries every time he talks about GameStop because it was like his childhood.

Well, he should be happy today.

Yeah, GameStop's Fortune 500.

Oh, that was the best part.

That meme of like GameStop, which was like a shitty stock forever, is like now at a valuation that like Apple is at because so many people are buying it.

So like they're sitting at a table with like a bunch of like legitimate serious ass companies that they never would have been at.

It was obviously

a heroic ending until it wasn't.

Yeah, and I look forward to the movie that's made about this so that we could really understand it, but it also can't get made until

proper actions and punishments are taken.

Yeah.

What can it be called, the movie?

Okay, wait, let me think.

Maybe it will be called like Wall Street Bets, which is like the name of the subreddit.

That could be good.

Oh, yeah, that is cool.

Or, um,

I gotta get on that subreddit.

Robin Hood.

I don't know.

Let's think on it.

Yeah.

Um, so let's dive into our TV recap.

It could be called The Big Short.

That's such a good movie.

What about The Little Short?

Yeah, or like.

I didn't like that movie.

Oh, it's so good.

I didn't like it.

It's because that's a really hard thing to understand.

I mean, it's similar to stocks, but it's also about like the housing market and the bubble.

And even though the movie is so good and it explains so much, I don't like it, I still don't fully understand it, but I understand more than I ever would have if I didn't make a movie about it.

TV recap.

TV, right?

I forgot about that.

First part of the Southern Trump reunion.

I just want to say my theory was correct.

The reunion is so amazing.

And I really think that the worse a season is, the better a reunion is because there's more things to unpack.

I mean, everyone just came out fucking like on fire.

Like, Craig, oh my God, chill the fuck out.

No, but like.

Craig is my king.

And watching the reunion last night, it's hard because I really like Madison and like watching people that I like argue, it hurts.

Right.

You know what I mean?

It really hurts.

It is painful to watch because there's so clearly a double standard in this group.

Like the way they talk about Madison, like calling her like whore, like it's disgusting when all of them are vile.

Like they all fuck a million girls all the time, celebrities, non-celebrities.

So when Madison is strategic with her XMLB player, like she's a slut.

But when everyone else does it, it's totally fine.

Like there's such a clear double standard that it's actually really frustrating to watch.

It is, but it does start feel like it's starting to be called out a little.

A little bit.

But what I was going to say was, Craig, like, even though I really like Madison Craig has been on the show now it's just him and Chep who have been on since season one and like really if you re-watch oh and Catherine sorry if you rewatch everything

Craig is right about everything he really is always like taking the right side so and I hate to like use that as a template to be like so I'm always gonna agree with Craig right but I just sometimes when I'm like unclear I'm like well Craig usually has an eye for these things yeah I think a lot of interesting things came out of this for you so many of course the ex-MLB player which a lot of people online are saying is a rod but you're not married No, but okay, so there's a bunch of things.

There's a bunch of things.

I think that they sort, they were talking about like married men, and I think that they allowed the audio to sound like they're talking about a married MLB player because it lessens like their exposure

to A-Rod.

And like, I do think that they are worried because, like, now that the Southern Charmer is being so close, like, all of these Bravo Instagram accounts, it's like they keep saying it's A-Rod, it's A-Rod, it's A-Rod.

And, like, this is going to get to J-Lo.

And I don't think Andy wants to deal with that.

No.

But it's really so crazy.

But also, like,

I was watching all of these stories from

some of these Bravo Instagram accounts of like, so people are saying that it's A-Rod.

He had like some of her photos.

It looks like they were in New York City at the same time.

And then so many other people are coming out with like stories about, you know, their friend hooking up with A-Rod or A-Rod hitting on their friend.

And it's like,

even if one of these things is true, like the nerve he has.

The nerve and the gall.

Like, how dare you?

How dare you?

And it's like, what's so crazy, I was thinking about it as I went to sleep last last night is like, Jennifer Lopez is like the most perfect human on the face of the earth.

Like, so stunning, so beautiful, so talented, like, everything of the sort.

And it's like,

even she.

She, like, excuse me, Beyonce.

Right, right.

That, I mean, if, if there's ever a template for like how literally like no one is above getting cheated on, like, Beyonce.

No, but it's, like, it's not even like he's, I mean, he is cheating on her, but it's like the disrespect that, like, no, yeah, nobody, like, yeah, that's the thing.

No one, like, if Beyonce and J-Lo get cheated cheated on, like, women will never get respect.

That's what I'm saying.

Yes, no, it's so valid.

I think about that thing with Beyonce all the time because, like, she's the most beautiful woman on the planet.

And I think many people would argue, the most talented person all around in multiple categories.

Stunning, beautiful, smart, like, everything of a sort.

And she got cheated on.

There's no hope for the rest of us.

No, it's like, and she can't even get respect in her house.

In her marriage, yeah.

No, it's disgusting.

It made me like really mad reading all that stuff.

It's like, what is J-Lo doing?

Yeah.

No, it's shocking.

I mean, what is he doing?

Yeah, no, what is he doing?

What is he doing?

But it's like,

I just, I, I don't understand.

So that was one interesting that came out, that interesting thing that came out.

Yes.

Another very, very interesting thing was that Craig's girlfriend not only hooked up with Austin, but was on love connection and is being kind of portrayed as this TV star fucker thirst monster.

Thirst monster, yes.

I mean, it's a hard spot to be in because like, even watching her on the show, she seems so cute and sweet and like sort of like these things are coincidences, maybe.

And the thing about Austin, like, I could have lived with, but to find out she was on Love Connection is

really

strange.

And I feel like Shep, like, not like really liking this girl, but not knowing how to reconcile that.

Yeah, 100%.

We don't even know her well enough to like really get a sense of like if it's a coincidence, if it's strategic.

But I agree, like, it's a lot to take in.

It's a lot to take in.

And it's like extra weird that it was this show Love Connection, which no one ever watched and is.

And was hosted by Andy.

And was hosted by Andy.

No, but like if she had been someone who had been on The Bachelor, like it would have be different.

100%.

You know what I mean?

100%.

Okay.

Another thing that I noticed.

She was like, she couldn't get on The Bachelor, so she went on Love Connection.

She went on The Next Best Thing.

Yeah.

Another thing I noticed about the reunion that I really have been coming to this conclusion over the last few weeks is that like Southern Charm and the editors like really did Leva, sorry, Leva, so dirty.

Like, because I was just enjoying her so much last night.

and I'm like, oh, that's because she's not talking about Catherine.

And it's like, they just pieced together this entire season, every moment where she was talking about Catherine, and exclusively used that footage.

So, even though she's right in what she's saying about Catherine, it's like, Leva, like, get a life, even though she has a life, like, she has a kid and multiple restaurants.

And we saw none of that.

Yeah.

So, just when I saw her on Watch What Happens Live and now at the reunion, like, talking about other things other than Catherine, it's like, this girl is fabulous.

And I'm just like, I'm wishing we saw more of that.

I know that it really is not cool what they did.

But also, I was loving the conversation because I I had mentioned it on the show that her son, they call him Little.

And I just think that's such a cute name.

And so getting the explanation that he's actually like Lamar III, but usually that's called Trip, which I didn't know that either.

Didn't know that either.

And now it's like, oh, and I think maybe I had heard it once, but I never thought enough about it because now it's like triple, triple, trip.

Yeah.

Makes total sense.

It's so cute.

It's so cute, but then like the fact that he was like, I'm big, Lamar, and you're little, Lamar, and now he's called little, like,

like, as just someone who loves

nicknames, like, that just means, meant, that just touched my heart.

It was a beautiful origin story.

It really, really was.

No, I completely agreed with you.

I think it's the cutest nickname ever.

I think it's the cutest nicknames.

And I never would have guessed that her kid's name was Alfred.

No, no, me neither.

And that, like, Trip is the third.

Yeah.

I loved it.

I wonder if there are some people who don't know that, like, that's what that is.

So they name their kid Trip.

Yeah, no, 100%.

They're like, but what is Trip short for in their minds, you know?

I don't know.

Triple sack?

Like,

you know, no, but when she said that, I was like, oh my God.

That's like when I learned that people from Mars are called Martians, like something that I should have known my whole life, but didn't.

Yeah.

Or that rascal wasn't a name.

Right, right.

But it could be.

It could be.

Another big conversation that was had was kind of the evolution of Shep.

Yes.

And I thought it was incredibly genuine.

Like, I'm always a champion of people like bettering themselves, growing, learning every day.

And I just loved that conversation.

I think he had like a true self-awareness that he's never had before.

Yeah, and you can really see the growth, you know.

So, I think that's like where we land on, like, when people mess up, it's like, yes, you need to apologize, and but you also need time and space to grow and

change.

And I feel like that's what Shep has done.

Yeah, you know, because like the way that he reacts to things, like the way that he lives his life now, like he's different than he was a year ago.

Yeah, and that's like that's growth.

When I heard that he had, you know, had an indiscretion with a woman, I was like really mad at him.

I was upset too, but I just thought it was going to be worse.

Yeah, because it was a kiss, but still, like, and that's just so like the Southern Charm double standard.

And I'm so glad Leva pointed it out.

Like the romanticizing of cheating and the glorification of it.

Like if Madison did that, like, oh my God, it's just so hypocritical.

Yeah.

And even though like sometimes Madison says and does things that are so indefensible, like at the end of the day, you cannot deny the inc like the just hypocrisy in this cast.

Like it's so crazy and it's so fucked up.

Yeah.

um another thing i wanted to talk about two things one like forgot danny baird was there pretty much the entire time she spoke and i'm like who is that i'm like why is she crying

yeah and then the other thing which i found to be probably the most interesting conversation was the cameron eubanks of it all yes and there's one other interesting conversation um about Miss Patricia that I want to talk about.

But yes, let's talk about Cameron.

So I had no, I knew that it was always a mystery to us, like why she left, but I didn't know it was a mystery to everyone else, like that nobody knows the reason and this is like the first time on a show where they're actively talking about like someone who chose not to be on and like also like is she coming back next season i feel like cameron if she watched the season is so glad not to be a part of it there's nothing on this season for her but so for the people who are friends with her to say like she's upset she didn't do it like i never would have gotten that vibe and i mean i get really heated and i i fully take catherine's side when it comes to like those rumors because first of all it's worth mentioning i heard those rumors like on instagram on blogs like

years ago yeah they've always been circulating and everything in Catherine's life has been put on blast like not by herself but like her stuff with Thomas her stuff with the kids custody drugs like everyone has put every facet of Catherine's life on blast and she more than anyone has bled out so hard for the success of this show and Cameron has kind of been the one like leading the charge even when they flash back to those old clips when cat um

No, it was about the pillows when Cam was laughing about like someone saying Craig is going to retire on pillows.

Like it's just so mean.

She was really kind of mean.

Yes, I agree.

And for a while, like she was made to feel like the moral compass of the show.

And now like now knowing all we know, it's actually like so fucked up everything Cameron did to like.

her fellow female castmate who's like also a mom like she should have related to her more on that level and i do know in her last seasons like she did try and make amends but like it was honestly so little so late and it was not nearly enough and i'm with catherine like i'm mad like you have shit too like let's fucking talk about it yeah and my shit's been spoken about in the same way that the people sit on the stage and call Madison a homewrecker because they say she slept with married men in Charleston, which is like a rumor, even if they know it to, they think to be true.

Like, they're just spewing some shit out that we haven't seen on the show.

So that's what we're doing today.

That's what Catherine was doing.

Also, I felt when I was watching those former Cameron scenes with Catherine, it's like Cameron owed Catherine this big apology.

Like, I'm sorry for everything.

And she gave that to her.

I feel like we saw it at the reunion.

She was like really moved and understood that like she was really on the wrong side of history.

And so like, this is what I'm saying about Chef.

That's one thing.

Like she apologized and she meant it.

But then I would have loved to see seasons of Cameron supporting

Cameron supporting Catherine.

You know, she just bounced.

Yeah.

And I like, honestly, like,

I don't respect that at all.

No.

And it's just unfair.

And it's like, in hindsight, watching the season, it's like she...

It makes sense that she's not on the season.

There's nothing for her on the season.

But when they set out to film this season, like, it could have been another Cameron-centric season.

No, and honestly, now more than ever, I feel like she would fit in on the show.

Leva, Catherine, Madison, and now Cameron are all moms.

Like, there's really no reason for her not to be on the show.

Right, and Leva was a really close friend of hers, which is really weird that they don't speak anymore.

I thought that Cameron, like when I would think about it, I would think that Cameron brought Leva onto the show, like, wanted Leva to be on the show, wanted to like a great friend for her and like ally to have.

And Leva contributes a lot to the show.

So now knowing that like Leva being on the show, not for, not directly, but now they're not friends because of it.

Yeah.

Or not directly because of it, but they're just, she's on the show now and they're not friends.

Like, you're talking about two things have to do with one another

is really weird.

Completely, completely agree.

It's very spooky stuff.

Spooky stuff.

And then the last thing was Patricia.

And I loved what Catherine said.

Catherine didn't say much on this particular episode.

I'm sure her time will come.

But the few things that she did said, I just agreed with her.

She was like, why is this older woman just sitting around like bashing this young entrepreneur's business?

100%.

I was so glad that, and what's so crazy, and I'm so mad at the girls for defending Patricia because it's.

Well, Madison always defends Patricia.

Yeah, but she could have kept her mouth shut.

She really could have.

Because what Craig said was not a lie.

Like, Craig has always been nice and respectful towards Patricia.

Patricia watched him on HSN and was being rude, talking shit, and turns out saying some lies, saying her pillows are luxury and his are affordable.

When hers are $20 and his are $58.

said was the prices of theirs and that she is no longer on hsn he just he chose to speak one language and he chose facts and and i appreciate it and so for the girls that be like that's not fair and it's like no no the facts are fair patricia was speaking like with judgment in her voice patricia started it craig was sharing facts so like i was really disappointed in madison obviously for defending her and leva too i feel like patricia has contributed to so much of this like injustice boys club culture on the show like keeping the status quo as it is for years putting down catherine and then only turning around when like like she realized

that no one was on her side.

And so to see the women defend her when like finally people are realizing what she's all about was really irksome.

I completely agree.

There's so much injustice in this franchise.

Like and it's definitely better, but it's not even close to like where it needs to be.

Yeah, I agree.

I got very heated there for a minute.

I apologize.

I always get heated when it comes to Patricia.

Yeah, I mean, me too.

Literally like dying on this hill from season one.

That it's weird that she hangs out with these people.

And that she's so mean and

just picks and chooses.

Unjust.

So that's our southern charm.

I'm like, sure, she's fabulous, but at what cost?

I agree.

I mean, Austin said it best.

Like, it's very sad.

Like, hasn't, has Patricia never been in love?

It's always been about money.

Oh my God, Austin.

That was a shady fucking.

Yeah.

So anyways, I thought the reunion was so good.

And there were also like moments where I was genuinely smiling.

Me too.

And they all looked, all the women looked stunning.

Leva looked so beautiful.

Oh my God.

Yes.

Catherine's new look is fabulous.

I mean, Madison and her revenge bod were just like doing the most

when Craig was like, I mean, Leva's kids and Austin kids like could be models.

Catherine's like, what about my kids?

So funny, but also like that, that's what I love about the show.

Like they're actually friends.

They have really good senses of humor.

And that's what makes the show go round.

Also, the fact that like the men are all growing out their hair was just like an interesting choice.

I I did not enjoy it.

When they flashbacked to like Shep being a dick to Madison like two seasons ago, he looked so much more handsome.

I'm like, you've got to cut your hair.

I know.

It was like really jarring.

Yeah, they're like getting old and like getting comfortable.

I think Craig's hair, I think he flat ironed it.

Like it was so,

it was very like, you know, emotional.

Like curtain bangs.

Yeah, yeah.

Like stream.

Side bangs.

Yeah.

But that's the thing about, like, I'm sure.

He's just going to cut it for next season.

So it's not really a big deal.

I think that would be best.

Yeah.

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Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

We are thrilled, excited, and humbled to be joined by a very iconic fellow host, Mr.

Maury Povich.

Hello, Maury.

Welcome to the Morning Toast.

Claudia, Jackie, nice to be with you.

Nice to see you.

Thank you, Maury.

Heard a lot about you.

Oh, wow.

Wow.

We've been admirers for a very long time.

This is a very exciting interview for us as fellow hosts.

We have so much admiration for you and you being the longest running TV host is no small feat.

No, you're going into your 23rd season, isn't that right?

23rd season on this show.

Yeah, the Maury Show.

There were seven before that on a show called the Maury Povitch Show, but it was well before you were born.

Well, you know, my first memory of Maury was

whenever I was homesick from school.

It was always Maury because you were on when we were at school.

And I just have so many fond memories of watching the show as a kid.

And now growing up, I've actually been to your studio.

I wanted to go to a taping, but you weren't taping.

And I went to Jerry Springer, but I got myself a Maury hat that says, You you are not the father.

Very good.

By the way,

I'm glad that you did that when you were home sick.

I know a lot of people over the years who used to tell me that they kind of played sick in order to stay home.

Oh, hundred pros.

Those are the best days.

So you have become, you know, iconic for your show, especially for your taglines and the way you deliver DNA test results.

And I'm curious, I'm a big fan of catchphrases.

I'm curious, how does one deliver the perfect paternity result?

Well,

it's interesting.

I think there has to be

a huge amount of reality when it comes to something like that.

And quite frankly, it happened right in the beginning when we did our first paternity test show.

And my producer would brief me.

I had read all the story and everything.

And as the producer is briefing me before we go on, she says, and so therefore the result.

And I said, you know,

I don't want to know the result because if I knew the result, then I would knew more, I would know more than my guests would know.

I would know more than our live audience would know and my viewers at home.

And because of that, you know, I might skew the questions.

So I didn't want to know anything more

than what anyone else knew.

So then when I opened the envelope, whether it be lie detector or DNA, I would be as surprised as anybody would be.

So that's why you are the father.

You are not the father.

I mean, those phrases came about because of my own actual surprise.

Yeah.

That's a fascinating piece of Maury history.

And I just think every time you deliver it, it really just hits home.

There's been so many wild things to have happened on the show.

And like we said, we're going into your 23rd season.

Is there a moment, an episode that stands out to you as like the craziest?

Well, yeah, when it comes to DNA, there definitely was.

And I can also talk about a lie detector episode.

But

as far as the DNA, there was a woman who came on and she was accusing a guy of a guy, accusing a guy of being the father of her twins.

And I opened up the result, and it turns out that he was the father of one.

What?

That's crazy.

I turned to my staff and I said,

what is all this and they said with fraternal twins

if a woman is somewhat active over a certain period of time she could be with two fathers because they're two separate eggs and two sperms different sperm and uh you that's what you get and uh some doctors told me that it was a million-to-one shot and it came when it came on our

came to be on our show twice.

So we've had two of those occasions.

That is a great medical marvel.

I have a question for you.

As the king of DNA results, how do you feel about 23andMe and the people having access to all of these different programs that give them so much genetic information?

Well, it's fine.

You know,

I can't go back as far as 23andMe and all the ancestry apps that are out there now.

But when it comes to whether you're the father, of a child or not,

I can tell you this.

I've had a lot of people people on who've taken those home dna tests and they didn't believe them and they won't believe them until they come on my show until maury tells you if you're the father maury what do you think is the maury show's annual budget on paternity and lie detector tests it must be huge

it's significant because uh with lie detector tests of course we have to have a professional

We had Ralph for years.

He's been our lie detector guy, and he used to come on the show.

But the paternity test, one of the reasons why they come on the show is they're very expensive.

They're into four figures.

I mean, it's not, I mean, they're at least $1,000 to

get a real DNA test.

So that's one of the reasons why a lot of our guests can't afford it and come on the show to find out.

Yeah, that is so interesting.

And what is the actual process for guests to come on your show?

Like, how do you find these situations?

Do they come to you?

Well,

we don't advertise, but we say on the show, if you are in need of a test, you can call this number.

And then our production teams get back to you and they go over their entire story.

And if it's a legitimate story, then we bring them to Stanford, Connecticut, where

we take the show.

This year, of course, it's completely different because of COVID.

So

we don't have many live guests.

We have some, but not many.

And we do it virtually, and it's worked out pretty well.

In fact, the stories become so much more intimate because you don't have the reaction of my live audience.

So it's just me and the guests.

And

it's more of an intimate feeling, but it's turned out pretty well this year.

And so this year you're also doing a segment where you're bringing back guests who have been on the show maybe 20 years ago.

What has that been like?

Well, you know,

in in a strange way, Claudia,

it's one of these things where it almost makes me tell all the critics over the years who felt that I was exploiting this particular theme of DNA that

on many, many occasions, maybe as many as a majority of occasions, if I prove that he's the father of a child, that that fellow will get involved in that child's life.

So that child with two parents, co-parenting has a better chance at a future than if there was only one parent.

And because we can bring them back 15 years and 20 years later, how about this?

We find out how the child grew up.

Did the father get into their lives?

Did they go to school?

Did they graduate school?

Did they go to college?

Do they have a job?

How did their life turn out?

Life turn out.

So,

to me, I'm very gratified by by that.

And it also says to me, we're doing the right thing when it comes to the DNA testing.

Right.

And it's like a full circle moment for you to see it all.

It's great.

I mean, the only thing I don't like about it is the fact that

I look so much younger back.

Now I feel that.

Well, like you said, it's been 23 seasons.

You've had enormous success.

Why do you keep doing it?

You know, you could call it a day.

You are now officially the longest running daytime host on television in history.

So you did that.

You could just go home.

Well, you know, it's interesting.

NBC, which owns my show,

they keep asking me to come back and do these long-term deals.

And,

you know, I feel good.

I think the show still works.

We still have a large audience.

In fact, I think of the daytime audiences, we probably have the youngest average audience of any daytime talk show.

We've had that for many, many years, ever since, for instance, that Oprah left the scene.

You know, it's very interesting.

When I started,

I didn't know how long I would be doing talk shows.

But the researchers told me recently that

since I started talk shows in 1991, that's almost 30 years,

that there are 75 talk shows in the graveyard.

And so,

you know, I kind of feel honored that I'm still on.

Yeah, well, that's something that we talk a lot about on our show.

There are a lot of different daytime talk shows, some that are super successful, and there's very many that we talk about one season and then we never talk about again.

What do you think is the secret sauce to being a successful daytime talk show host?

Well, you know, I learned a long time ago, and maybe you can understand this with what you're doing.

It's like an election.

You have to campaign for viewers.

You have to get out there and you have to show yourself.

First of all, you have to show your vulnerabilities.

You have to show yourself that you can make a connection with an audience.

And it's like knocking on a door, asking them to open the door, invite you in, be part of their family, and make a connection.

And I think because just through instinct, Lord knows I have not led the lives that a lot of our guests guests have led.

I don't have those experiences.

But at the same time,

there's a human quality about the connection between my guests and myself and my audience.

And I think

that's really how it's worked for me over the years.

I've always believed

it's a never-ending campaign.

to be invited into people's homes.

That's very, very well said.

Yeah.

Well, you are an icon.

You're doing the most and you're just, you know, killing it.

As always, when you are back in a studio with guests, Jackie, and I would love to come to a table.

Oh, my gosh.

Absolutely.

Because I did, I have been to Jerry Springer, and it was fabulous, but I need to come to a Mori show.

When we go back to live audiences,

it is a treat.

Front row, me and Jackie cheering you on.

Thanks so much.

Congratulations

on everything.

Thank you so much for being here.

Hope you guys enjoyed this episode, and we will be back tomorrow.