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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Tuesday.

Hope everyone's having an amazing, bright, beautiful, stunning, and smart day so far.

So far, that's all you can ask for so far.

That's all you can ask for, especially like when all you've done is like put your makeup on.

Like hopefully the day is beautiful, stunning, and smart, and so are you.

No, I weirdly, my mornings are so busy now.

With Bruce, they were already becoming busy because we go for a walk, and it's just like we're just walking around the neighborhood.

But with my smoothie-making endeavor, it's just on another level.

And I made my smoothie today, I actually brought my smoothie today.

One, because I was in such a rush and I didn't get to have my breakfast portion, two, because it's finally a pretty color that I'm proud of.

I'm not like drinking black slop, yeah, and three, um,

I okay, so I just got a funnel to pour my

pitcher into these bottles.

And I literally have almost double the amount of smoothie to drink.

So I was missing out on so much smoothie because it was all like coming out over the side.

You learn something new every day on a juice cleanse.

Right.

So if you are doing the cleanse, definitely get a funnel if you're using like these glass bottles because I was wasting so much smoothie.

It's devastating.

Okay, the support is lackluster.

Okay, what do you want to do?

Like cheer for the funnel?

I'm so excited for you.

Your whites of your eyes look blinding.

No, they look the same still.

No, they look a little less gray, like, more poppy.

I guess.

I feel like, I'm feeling good.

I'm really feeling,

I'm really glad that I'm doing this.

I'm really excited to be done with it, obviously.

Of course.

It's not torture along the way.

It's really not.

So if you are on the fence, I'm telling you to go for it.

Do you?

I've inspired someone else to do it, too.

Okay, well, that's kind of why I'm annoyed at you and your fucking juice cleanse, because you know what?

You want to torture yourself with a juice cleanse?

Fine.

Don't bring that shit shit into my home because you know what jackie's trying to convince ben to do it and you know what's gonna happen trying he actually i did suggest that he would like it he would like it so ben is gonna spend all this money on like fruits vegetables blender this book that you made him get and you know what if ben was like actually going to follow through with it of course i would be supportive but ben is the king of starting things and not finishing them so i just know i'm gonna or he'll do it and like i'm gonna have to clean up all the like the celery off the floor and like the apple skin on the counter and it's like then it becomes my job and it's like if you guys wanna torture yourselves so be it.

But like, I don't want jobs.

And Ben going on a juice cleanse gives me multiple jobs.

First, hearing about it, which I already have to hear about it from you.

Second, the cleanup, the cleanup.

Third, Ben, like, he's just like going to talk about it non-stop.

Like, you know what?

That is why I'm not supportive of the juice cleanse anymore because you brought it into my home.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay.

I mean, I'm sorry, but I actually think that he would really like it.

Of course.

And Jackie said that Ben has said he's going to read the book.

Yeah.

And I think that reading the book, it's um

the green smoothie cleanse by JJ Smith.

Just search it on Amazon.

Reading the book is the best way to make sure that you stick to it because it tells you why you're doing what you're doing.

Not just like, oh, I saw someone do a juice cleanse, now I'm gonna do that same one.

Like, it really explains the reason behind everything.

And I think that it's you need to also prepare yourself mentally for something like this.

Well, why I brought up the book is because if you think Ben is going to read that book, I just have to say, since I've known him, one time I saw him read, we like, we're in the airport and we both bought books to read at the beach.

I read, I think it was Drew Barrymore's, and he bought Aziz Ansari's and legit read one page.

That was the only time I've ever seen him read in the entire eight years we've been together, and he hasn't even read my book.

So if he goes and reads JJ's book before mine, like I'll honestly be upset.

Well, he got the e-book, so it will be like a PDF.

He's waiting for the audiobook of my book.

Like, I'm like, Ben, just read my fucking book.

But that works.

Yeah, I mean, I don't have an advanced copy of the audiobook, so I can't, like, give it out to like friends and family.

So he's just going to have to wait till January 26th.

Okay well that's so exciting.

Maybe until then he'll read JJ's you know

he'll be all cleansed.

Whatever.

We have a great job for you guys today.

The Bachelor was on last night.

Much to discuss there as well as the world just turning and some of our stories connect to some of my TV recap because I started watching High School Musical, The Musical, the series.

And I know I'm the last person on earth to watch it.

And I'm just loving it like so much.

And

I watched it because I fell into this rabbit hole of

Olivia Olivia Rodrigo drama, which we will get into.

I just can't believe I didn't know about like all these teeny boppers who were so, you know, such big stars.

And I'd like to pride myself on being like in with the teeny boppers.

They weren't such big stars

until two days ago.

They were very insular, like in the Disney world.

And then it just, the song like blew it out into the general public.

Yeah, we'll talk about the song.

I'm very excited about it.

In the Fast Eyes story.

And then I'll talk about my feelings on High School Musical, the Musical of the Series in the story, because it's such a great little show.

It is a really good show.

I watched it at the beginning of quarantine after I watched High School Musical 1, 2, and 3.

And I recommend it for anyone.

Go on a cleanse, watch High School Musical.

You'll be set.

Yeah, if you just want to watch High School Musical 2, that works also.

Yeah, that does work.

You know what I did yesterday, speaking of content?

I downloaded the Discovery app.

Oh, Discovery Plus?

Yep.

I subscribed to it.

All of the content is there.

Well, I'm still on the seven-day trial and get your own.

Support the creators that you like.

Creators,

Okay, you know, you mean support toxic corporate America?

Sure.

Sure.

Sure.

So I got to watch Ina.

I watched all three episodes of Magnolia Table and then also like this behind the scenes.

There's only three episodes like ever.

There's only three episodes so far because it's very new.

Interesting.

They also had this behind the scenes of like how they set it up and like where they found the studio and her decorating the studio and like her mentality for doing the show.

And watching it really confirmed what I had said, which was like she's her approach is very like, I don't want to say, it's like candid and, you know, breaking the fourth wall.

And, like, you know, she'll spill here.

And she said, like, a lot of times when you film cooking shows, you film.

You film it twice.

And you make extra just in case you burn this much.

And she was like, she decided she's not going to do that.

Like, if I burn it, you're going to see it.

Right.

And like, make it very real.

Yeah.

Some could see that as real or some could see it as lazy.

No, I don't see it as lazy.

I like it.

I like that.

I mean, well, let's see, please.

If she does an episode and it's burned and I don't get to see the finish,

I'm going to be pissed.

But until then, I like the notion of like she's making what she makes, and then she's gonna eat it, and she shares it with the crew, and she brings it home to her kids.

Of course, and the kids, it's very cute.

So, I'm like, I've just fallen down this rabbit hole, and then I watched Rachel Ray's 30-minute meals because I told Jackie that I think she would really like it.

One, for recipes, and two, because Rachel Ray is just a culinary queen.

Queen!

She's a culinary queen, and I do like the concept of like meals you can make at home in 30 minutes.

Love to see it.

It's meant for like a busy mom on a weeknight, 100%.

I hadn't watched it in so long, I forgot what Rachel Ray's personality is like, and like she is just so energetic.

She's a lot, she's a lot.

Like, and I want I sent you a clip of her, like, yelling at me because you were trying to explain to me like why you weren't loving Rachel right.

I never said anything about it.

You said she's just very chaotic.

I said the energy is so chaotic.

I sent you a clip like of her screaming.

She was being pretty nuts.

And then later in the episode, she goes, I'm sorry, I keep screaming at you guys.

No, see, so that's our queen, like self-aware.

100%.

No, I really liked it.

She made these delicious chicken patties parmesan.

So it was like a chicken patty with sauce and cheese, like a pizza.

The way that she was.

Oh, that looks so good.

It sounded so good.

I really want to make it.

So I'm just loving Discovery.

And it's mine in the streaming world.

It's like, I really think that they're

going to show up.

They've been doing a lot of commercials for it.

Also, whatever.

And they use Greatest Showman in the Twitter.

Do they?

They use Million Dreams as the song.

I feel like the marketing world has now like oversaturated the Greatest Showman.

Like, I've seen it in a few like commercials for different TV shows and stuff.

And it's like they know that it's like the secret sauce to just get someone to buy something or to watch it.

But now it's becoming slightly oversaturated.

Oh, that's funny because to me, it's like so incredible that I don't like,

I'm glad it's not used more, but I think it could be used even more.

Like I think everyone should use it.

And the fact that it's only a handful, it's like, oh.

No, there's nothing that one of those songs like can't make you buy.

No, or can't make me do or feel.

100%.

Also, I caught up on RuPaul's Drag Race last night.

And I just have to say, like, it's really just the best show on television.

I don't think she's going to win, but I would love for Candy Lush to win.

Like, if anyone knows what I'm talking about, she's so funny.

Like, and to me, obviously what you do on the runway is so important.

But really, the energy you bring to the confessionals and like the drama and like untucked, like that to me is so valuable.

And Candy Lush is just hysterical.

And Ross Matthews, who I used to, like, find really annoying, but now he's really found like a home for him.

I feel like he was kind of career-wise, like floating around.

Like, not, do you remember?

Like, he was on Chelsea lately, and then he had Hello Ross, and he just like couldn't find a place for himself in entertainment.

He landed as like one of the OG judges for a while now on RuPaul's Drag Race, and I honestly think it's the perfect place for him.

So he's much more likable.

Um, and he loves Candy Lush, and he really sees Candy Lush for like who she is.

Um, and I just love her.

Also, I love Gottmick, um, who is friends with James Charles, like, um, in real life.

Um, she's pretty fabulous.

And I like everyone, actually.

I don't like that that we're now two episodes in and absolutely nobody has been sent home.

Like, the one complaint I have about RuPaul's Drag race is that they waste your time, you know?

No.

With like episodes like silliness, like you're eliminated.

No, you're not.

Like send me, send one person home every week.

Like that's all we ask, you know?

Yeah.

But they're always every season trying to reinvent.

So it's like this season, six girls went home the first night.

One came back, but we know the other five are here.

Like it's just so just.

Could we go from like 13 to one?

Like, isn't that how it works?

Yeah.

Yeah, I feel that.

The bachelor could also heed that advice.

Yeah, then I know we didn't get a roast ceremony this week and we'll talk about it in the TV recap, but I really need about 10 girls to go home because it is way too many girls.

Like, I cannot.

Sarah, who was like a star of last night's episode, never saw her in my life.

Sarah's the one who added.

Alexis Rose.

Alexis Rose.

Do you feel that call?

Of course, everyone did.

Not only in the way that she looks, but in her mannerisms.

But were other people saying that too?

Everyone.

Oh, I, okay, but I know you don't have Twitter, but it's all over Twitter.

I came to that conclusion on my own, and I felt really proud.

No, it's everywhere, and it's so accurate.

Yeah, so accurate.

And I'm sure she's loving the comparison.

Someone also said that she reminds them of Naomi from from Southern Charm, and I felt that too.

Kind of.

More on the Alexis one.

Yes, but I just, I saw that as well.

So we will do our full bachelor recap later on in the show in our TV recap segment, and you don't want to miss it.

So without further ado, do you think that it's time?

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Okay, First story: it's what everyone's talking about.

If you watch Sinitch's Instagram, you've seen some of this.

But Olivia Rodrigo's song, Driver's License, hits number one across major streaming platforms and earns praise from Taylor Swift.

Sickening.

So, Olivia Rodrigo, who is the star of High School Musical, The Musical of the Series, put out her debut single, Driver's License, and it has been out for only three days and it's already at the top of the streaming charts.

It's unbelievable.

And it is the cause for this viral sort of

it's not like honestly, the story is that different or interesting from like other scandals in celebrity worlds.

And the three people involved aren't even that mega famous.

So I don't really know why this drama like caught on.

It really started on TikTok where people just became obsessed, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the song is so good.

The song is so good.

So I had watched Marco's Instagram stories a few days ago, so I got the lowdown.

Basically, Olivia Rodrigo was dating Josh, who also stars in high school musical, the musical, the series.

Joshua Bassett, He plays Ricky.

And they, um, they were like, so the thing is, is that's confusing, is that when they met, she was 16.

Okay.

And so that's why, like, driver's license was such a big deal because they were like waiting.

He's older, not that much older, but I think he's like 19.

Snitch says that he taught her how to drive.

Yeah, and they were waiting for her to turn 18 to like officially become a couple.

So they were definitely like in love.

I don't know if they were like full-blown boyfriend and girlfriend because she was younger or they just weren't public about it because she was younger.

Okay.

And

I guess like in their relationship, there was always this like underlying like weird thing that like he might have been like into Sabrina Carpenter.

She was always very insecure about it.

I saw a video of them yesterday on an award show carpet with like four of their castmates and the woman interviewing them was like, who are you guys excited to see perform tonight?

And someone was like, Belisha Keys.

And some girl was like, Sabrina Carpenter.

And Joshua Bassett's like, whoa, she's here.

And like, it was just like a moment in time where they forgot they were on camera.

And like you look at Olivia, it's like the most cringiest thing.

So there was always like this weird element with Sabrina Carpenter.

Okay.

Then I guess nobody knew that they like broke up or whatever.

She puts out this song that just spills the tea everywhere.

And it's piping hot.

Yeah, no, this song is like word for word what went down.

I saw an article that's like decoding Olivia.

There's no

code.

It's just English.

It's just, she wrote out what happened.

He's with an older girl now.

She drives by her.

You're with the blonde girl who's so much older than me.

She drives by his house now alone, but she did get her driver's license.

Yeah.

And it's just like the memory of him teaching her how to drive.

It's very, you know, she's a very musically talented young girl.

She also wrote that song that went viral on TikTok from High School Musical to Musical Series,

All I Want.

All I Want.

She's so good.

Yes.

All I want.

She's really good on the show.

You said you didn't like love her on the show.

And so when I watched, I was ready to obviously hate her.

No, but I think she's spectacular.

Like, she's a really good singer.

I just like didn't, I didn't love her energy on the show.

and I just feel like justice once again needs to be served for the girl who plays Miss Darbis in the musical like when

did you finish a series?

No, I'm only on episode four I agree that that's like EJ's cousin the girl who plays Miss Darbis in the musical is the glue that holds the the drama club together like she's such a queen and she's so talented when her and Nini sat down at that piano and sang that song I was shook like shook shook shook and I I couldn't agree more once again miss Darbis saves the fucking drama club right so that's like the angle I came at it from.

And I was just like, okay, I mean, she's super talented.

There's no denying that.

And there are some songs that I even like listen to on Spotify.

And it's not even all I want.

It's like another one.

Yeah.

I just like had other thoughts, but the show was really good.

And I hope that this like sort of drama and virality will make more people watch High School Musical the Music of the Series because I thought it was really good.

I mean, it made me watch it, so I have to imagine other people are doing it too.

I agree.

And when it comes to High School Musical, the Musical of the Series, it's a Disney Plus show original.

So it's not on Disney Channel.

But, you know, I was really shocked at how I found this show to be much more mature than, you know, the Disney Channel Days of Past.

And I just think it's like, it's crazy how, like, not that much time has passed since like we were watching the Disney channel, but I feel like the energy at Disney is so different.

Like, even the way that like, you know, Gabriella's not like a nerd and Troy, you know what I mean?

Like, it's just like high school in those like archaic sort of stereotypes that we grew up with like are so toxic.

They were really sticking to the status quo.

And like, they were so before their time with that song, but still, they could not really, like, just because Troy did basketball and saying he broke the status quo, like, no, it's and just because you're in the drama club, like, that doesn't make you a loser.

Yeah, they're not in these boxes anymore, which I think is so healthy.

Like, I can't explain.

And I was just like shook when the big senior that everyone was like obsessed with, EJ, like, went to drama camp.

Like, I'm like, yes, like, thank you.

Like, I just think it's so wonderful for kids who get to like watch out, grow up, not in these, like, these archetypes that like our generation built of like pretty cheerleader, ugly nerd, you know, like it's so archaic and it was just so refreshing to watch.

And of course, like Disney has come, you know,

light years away from where they used to be.

Like they had a gay love interest.

I haven't, I don't see what happens.

Like, I don't know if he shows up to the prom or not, but like there's a gay couple.

Like it's just so different and so refreshing.

And like honestly.

Kids these days are just going to be better off because of it.

Yeah.

I just haven't watched kids content in so long.

Like I didn't know how much has changed.

No.

But also High School Musical The Musical series is interesting because it's like not, doesn't represent like the Disney Channel right now, but it's Disney Plus.

And so you really do feel like you're watching something more mature than like you're watching a Disney Channel show.

So yeah, the jokes are like a little bit more elevated and like kind of dirty sometimes.

And also it's like the premise even of they're they go to this They're students at the high school where High School Musical was filmed, and the drama club is now performing High School Musical The Musical as their

spring musical.

and the drama director is like she was an extra but her scene got cut like it's just like

she is so funny and the whole series but her in particular really reminded me of glee yeah the soundtrack is so glee

and she looks like a mix of miss pillsbury and kristen chenowith and kristen chenowith yes oh my god i thought the show was like and i read somewhere that they like some of the creators from glee like worked on disney plus this show but the similarities are so stark and i love glee I think that maybe is why I really like the show.

Yeah, so you're not done yet?

Are you going to finish it today?

I actually have a very busy day today, but I will do my absolute best because it's short episodes.

Yeah.

How many episodes are there?

I have no idea.

I watched it at the beginning of quarantine.

No, I'm really enjoying it.

It's like nice to have something that I like and I love the music.

Like I just could sing all day.

Yeah.

And also like if even if you're not invested in any of what we just said, the song Driver's License is objectively really great

and you should just listen to it and enjoy it.

Yeah.

And justice for Olivia Rodrigo.

I mean, oh, and now Joshua Bassett, like, is putting out a song called Lies, Lies, Lies.

Oh, right.

And, oh, I guess the shistiness came in when Joshua Bassett, like, shared on his Instagram, like, the song saying, like, Olivia Rodrigo, driver's license is out now.

Like, so proud of you.

Right.

And it's, like, I saw TikTok or something that was, like, imaginative.

Like,

John Mayer

shared, dear John, who's like a new song out, so proud of you.

And, like, I wasn't sure if that was like a genuine so proud of you, like, or like a manipulative, like, gaslighting type of moment.

I don't, I think think people are erring on the side of gaslighting.

No, of course, Sabrina Carpenter's Instagram has been flooded with comments like John Miss Lyson's bond girl, which is like so annoying for her.

Um, but I'm just love Olivia Rodrigo.

She's apparently such a big Taylor Swift fan, and she's just like dying that Taylor commented on her Instagram and that they're like, you know, top of the chart queens together, just like hanging out at the top of the charts.

And this is just like a real success story, like for the girl who I guess got left behind in the relationship, but like she came out the winner.

Yeah, so far, I feel like the story isn't over.

No, I just like like cannot explain how little I'm interested in listening to a Joshua Bassett song.

No, I'm good.

Sabrina Carpenter, though, I'll keep my ears open.

She's a great singer-songwriter.

She's a great talent.

Great talent.

And, you know, I think one of my favorite songs of hers is the song that you wrote for the Girl Meets World theme song.

It's so good.

No, she has like a really fire album.

I agree.

A number of them, really.

Okay, so that's what the kids are up to in case you're wondering and you're seeing it all around or you didn't give a shit at all.

No, I think like 30-year-olds everywhere are hella invested in this, like hardcore rabbit hole.

Yeah, I've actually been seeing a lot of really funny TikToks, like the, I'm not going to describe the one that I saw, but it was really funny.

Yeah, okay, sounds hilarious.

No, it was so funny.

It's like a girl like R.

Oh, so you are going to describe working from home.

Yeah.

The truckers for Olivia are here.

And like trying to decipher everything, and then also like getting on Zoom.

Oh, I saw that too.

It was really funny.

Yeah.

It's literally all over TikTok.

It's crazy.

I mean, and that's how things

get big.

And things spread now.

So,

okay.

Next up, Martha Stewart gets her first dose of the COVID vaccine.

She says she waited in line with others.

Others.

Just to let everyone know that she

didn't skip the line.

She's part of the approved age group.

Right.

Like, she didn't use her privilege, like, celebrities to cut the line.

Yes.

On Monday, the 79-year-old lifestyle mogul shared a video of herself getting the vaccine at the Martha Stewart Center for Living at Mount Sinai in New York City.

She has a hospital?

yeah that's so interesting and assured fans that she didn't skip the line at the building that's named after her yeah sure adding that she was in the approved age group monday was the first day in new york city that they started vaccinating people age 75 and older that is so crazy um i actually saw on the local news you know when i turn on my tv it takes me automatically to new york one and if i forget to put something on like it just rolls on for days and I actually learned that, you know, they were opening up all these facilities and you have to make an appointment and it's like so messy.

And like all these people were complaining about how like

it's like impossible to get vaccinated and it was like people who really needed it and it's like not funny to joke about but I'm happy Martha Stewart got it.

Yeah, I'm happy that she got it too and that's really good.

Which one?

She didn't, I don't think that she specified.

I don't really feel like it matters either.

No, but I think

it's Pfizer.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think Pfizer.

Well, the Moderna one's out too.

The Moderna one is out too.

I know someone who got it.

Nice.

Yes.

So that's just like some exciting celeb vaccination news.

Also, the king and queen got vaccinated.

Did they?

Love, love, love to hear it.

I'm so glad that they made it through this difficult time.

Me too.

Unharmed.

Me too.

Do you think that there are celebrities who have gotten it like using their privilege and like just aren't telling?

For sure, right?

I honestly can't fathom that.

Really?

I can't.

No,

I don't think.

I definitely think there are.

Like the same celebrities who've been like lecturing people to stay home and then like fly to St.

Bart's, you know?

For sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it makes sense.

And I'm sure 100% they are 100%.

That is just so crazy to me.

Yeah.

We're still at this stage where obviously it's going to go in order of need, but like we're at the like critical need.

Earliest, critical need stage.

Yeah, no, the people who are just like the most vulnerable

still haven't all gotten it.

So if like a 25-year-old pop singer is getting it, like it's kind of crazy.

Yeah.

But I have no doubt that there are probably many a celebrity who have gotten it already.

That's insane.

It's just, it's really fucked up if you think about it.

Yeah.

But not confirmed, but I guess we won't know whether no, they'll never tell us, but like, I just think it's very fair to assume that like some people have gotten it.

Damn.

Okay, ready for a little good casting news?

A little GCN?

A little GCN.

What are the odds?

Sure.

Nicole Kidman and Javier Bardem are in talks for a Lucille Ball biopic.

Oh, yeah.

I saw this story and like.

You didn't care?

You don't think that Nicole Kidman will make a great Lucille Ball?

Well, I do have something controversial to say.

I don't know who Lucille Ball is.

I love Lucy.

You know her.

No, like I know the show, but like, don't know her.

I mean, I'm sorry to this woman.

You're not expected to know her because she's like

not of your time, but she's an icon, and you know, I love Lucy.

It's like a sitcom.

Yeah, from back in the day.

Big hit, big stuff.

No, no, no.

I've definitely heard of I Love Lucy.

And

yeah, for sure.

I just like don't know this woman from Adam.

And

what I do know is I feel like she's a little bit of a nut.

I just feel like.

And I don't see Nicole Kidman like being that chaotic.

I just feel like we're the only people talking about Lucille Ball and Olivia Rodrigo.

That is the diverse slate of content that you get here at the Morning Toast.

And that's why we do what we do and why we're literally the number one podcast in the universe.

Why do you think Lucille Ball is a nut?

Isn't her like show like I burned the turkey?

Yes, yes.

That's like...

No, but I feel like Nicole Kidman could do that so well.

Like think of Bewitched.

That is true.

That's true.

That is some of her best work.

I'm just seeing me wiggle my nose again.

Yeah.

That is some of her best work.

Yeah.

Arguably.

And Nicole Kidman can really do it all.

And I think that aesthetically she looks like Lucille Ball.

And I think she'll crush it if these rumors are true.

She does look like Lucille Ball.

That's very true.

Yeah.

And I think she can easily be made to look like her, like that coiff.

Right, right, right.

Okay, fabulous.

I mean,

definitely won't be watching, but we'll be supporting Nicole Kidman, as I always do, as she's the queen of my heart, body, and soul.

And her and her husband are

probably, I would say, unequivocally, like the most precious couple in Hollywood.

I agree.

And I also feel like Nicole Kidman at this point is one of those people who it's like, I trust her taste and ease.

And now I want to go back and watch everything she's ever been in.

Yeah.

Like, that's what I did with Cameron Diaz at

some point in quarantine, I think.

You know,

if you think about it, the signs have always been there that Nicole Kidman was really like the talent of a generation, just in terms of some of the earlier things she chose.

Stepford Wives.

Iconic.

Iconic.

If you've never seen that movie, you guys, you aren't living.

Obviously, Bewitched, which was such an incredible movie and like such a weird, like

they play it on E sometimes, but it's such a weird like little nugget.

Like, I feel like it wasn't really popular, but I loved it.

Um, yeah, now I'm gonna go to her

IMDb just because I want to like bring up all the other ones.

She was also in Practical Magic, which people love.

I feel like we're always talking about that movie, but you never know what it is.

Also, if you're ever looking for extra Nicole Kidman content, make sure you're following Keith Urban on like all of his social media platforms because they have this like warehouse on their farm in Tennessee where like all of his guitars are and he just like makes videos of him you know practicing his music.

And Nicole Kinman is like always on the side, like, doing like a weird old lady dance.

And it's some of the best content I've ever seen in my life.

So I really suggest that you follow him on like TikTok and Instagram.

Wow, she's been in so many movies.

Like, if you really decide to go down this path, you could have like a monthly content for days.

A lot of spooky movies, too.

She does have a very spooky vibe to her.

Like, she's got a lot of spooky elements.

Yeah, she seems haunted.

Right, but she was also in Aquaman.

What?

I think she played the like Aquaman, someone's mom.

That's a safe assumption.

Yeah.

She's just in so much good stuff, practical magic.

Paddington, just go with it.

Oh, yeah.

She was the friend at the bar that was like, they were,

I just saw this scene like a week ago or a month ago where they're like, she was like that one-upping friend that Jeff Bradston always felt like she was.

So she was Luann de la Seps.

Yes, 100%.

Grace of Monaco looks fabulous.

She's just

an actual like star.

Yes, yes.

So anyways, makes sense that she would play an actual star here's the tea on the movie though nicole kidman and javier bardemar and talks to play the married couple who starred on i love lucy and were also powerful hollywood producers in an upcoming movie aaron sorkin will direct the film that's called being

the ricardos which he also wrote well that's so exciting aaron sorkin are you gonna see it i i might he's like a talented writer you love aaron sorkin i do do you want to tell everyone why you love aaron sorkin no because i don't even remember i do when we were counselors at camp we would get every other night off and there was this great bar where everyone would go outside and drink.

And it was like really annoying if you were underage because it was this bouncer there named Aaron who was really strict.

Like really, really, really strict.

I actually had an amazing fake ID.

Were you underage or was it just I?

No, I definitely was too.

And so like sometimes you would get in with Aaron and sometimes he was so unpredictable and sometimes you wouldn't.

And if you wouldn't, you had to sit inside because it was also a restaurant.

The restaurant you could sit at no matter what age you were, but outside where like the party was, you had to be 21.

And if you did go inside and like you tried to sneak inside, there was no getting past Aaron.

He was literally, Jackie used to call him her babysitter.

And for some reason, she started calling him Aaron Sorkin.

And I literally didn't even know who that was, but I was like, Aaron Sorkin.

It was so funny.

And then we just, like, just was a nickname that really stuck hard, but he was really good at his job.

He was really good at his job.

He kept us from the bar.

He kept us in line.

Successfully.

And now he's directing a film about the Ricardos.

It's amazing what, you know where hard work can take you.

100%.

And also, an interesting fact right about this movie that you might find interesting, but knowing you, like, probably not.

Yeah.

Kate Blanchett was originally attached to the project, so I think she was like supposed to play Lucille Ball.

I think she also would have made a great Lucy.

Yeah, I don't know if she has enough chaotic energy.

No, I'm being dead serious.

They should tap Rachel Ray.

Totally.

She would make a fantastic Lucy O'Ball.

They should tap Rachel Ray.

Totally.

That's so funny.

That's good.

That's really good.

Thanks, Claudia.

Claudia.

That's fucking funny.

Okay, ready for our next story, which is a little biz news, I guess.

A little

biz news.

Sorry, I'm moving my tabs around to wait for you.

To make the stories make sense.

A little biz news.

Okay, so sales of Crocs have soared during COVID.

I mean, you can thank Ben's offer.

You really can.

Crocs' bittersweet moment has arrived in the midst of a global pandemic.

The foam clog, I guess that is what they are, a foam

clog.

A flog?

A flog.

Okay.

Derided by many for being, quote, ugly,

expects 2020 to be a record sales year.

On Monday, Crocs raised its fourth quarter outlook and full year outlook for 2021, now forecasting fourth quarterly year-over-year revenue to have increased about 55% to between $407 and 410 million dollars up from its previous estimate of a 20 to 30 percent increase and it's so i mean it's really not that surprising because like i know ben loves them but like so many i've really seen like more people wearing them and embracing the ugly almost and honestly not to like bring it back but like you know who really made like ugly

Fashionables like Kanye like even his shoes really look like Crocs now like those sandals that Kim wears yeah um like this is not that shocking but I'm nonetheless really happy for Crocs no not that shocking but it is like affecting the stock market Crocs is on on the NASDAQ.

Oh, I got to buy some stocks.

C-R-O-X.

Cute.

And shares are up 12%.

I also think like whoever works there and does their celebrity partnerships is an absolute genius because the Luke Homes like collab that they did is phenomenal.

I think they also did a Justin Bieber collab, which I didn't myself purchase, but still great collab nonetheless.

Speaking of Justin Bieber, his new song is so stellar.

Stunning.

I've listened to it maybe like 20 times already, which is a lot for me.

And it's Justin Bieber's.

The music video is weird.

I haven't watched it.

And he like kisses Zoe Deutsch when he's fully married.

That's just like unacceptable.

Yeah, no, why didn't Haley, who's literally like a model/slash actress, why didn't she star in the music video?

I don't know.

Or if you want to use like a different actress, fine, but like don't kiss another woman.

Especially in the music video where it's like so unnecessary.

Like nobody asked.

Literally nobody asked.

Okay, ready for our fifth and final story that's going to lead into our bachelor recap?

Sure.

The bachelor resort employees found a used condom in a tree during production of Matt James' season.

I mean,

sounds about right.

Matt James' season 25 of The Bachelor filmed at Nima Cole and Resort in Pennsylvania.

It looks incredibly beautiful.

And the resort CEO is dishing the behind-the-scenes scoop.

Maggie Hardy Knox told Page 6 that we actually found a used condom in the tree banjo brand.

It's actually disgusting now that I think about it.

Used condom

is so sickeningly gross and very unsanitary, especially living in a pandemic.

We're just leaving our semen everywhere, Matt James.

The CEO who teased that hair will be pulled and weaves will fly during the season noted that it was hard to keep track of everything that went down on the property during production, which began in September 2020.

How do they know that that used condom wasn't there before, Matt?

Very true.

Very true.

I'm going to need an investigation on the semen.

A DNA sample.

On the semen sample.

Yeah.

I need a time stamp.

We need it.

No, we need a DNA.

There's no way that Matt James was just fucking in the woods at Nemecolin during his season.

Is there?

I guess it it could have been towards the end of the season when he like

Hannah in the windmill.

Yeah, that's true.

Oh my god, for sure.

They're using protection.

I'm sure it was his.

It's just at this stage that I'm watching of the show, it's like inconceivable that he would be having sex with any of these women yet.

But like, when they get down the road, right, of course.

When they get down the road, like, usually they would be out of Neiman Colon, but no, they're still in Nima Colon.

They're in love, and they have been in the fantasy suite, so now they're gonna have sex in the woods.

Yeah, no, it's it's a bachelor condom.

Do you think that

the

fantasy suite provides like condoms and everything?

And you think, like, they do they do and oh wait no I think they don't what yeah and they either do or they don't like I don't know I think it would be wildly irresponsible of them not to someone shared in one of their memoirs this they do the status of condoms in the fantasy suite and you think probably most girls are on birth control there

I mean it's their choice yeah it's just interesting when you think about logistically the fantasy suites yeah I think with condoms are you're good to go do you feel like there's such a stark difference in like the quality and budget of like the dates and just the overall atmosphere of Matt's season versus Tayshia's?

Yeah, versus Claire's.

To the point where it's like almost offensive.

No, it's like I would be so pissed.

Like, they literally can take planes and ATVs.

And I'm sure there's going to be horses and cars and everything.

Like, the property is so vast.

And, I mean, I guess when they did Claire's season, they didn't know.

They couldn't think outside of California.

Yeah.

Oh, that's true.

You know?

And to them, it's like doing it at La Quinta was better than doing a whole season at The Bachelor Mansion.

So,

I mean, yeah, I would be pissed now if I was Clarenceia, but they also, like, it's a pandemic.

Because the girls, like, loft's little room was, like, so cute.

And the fact that they all get to, like, be together and have house drama as opposed to like going to other people's rooms.

Right.

Or like the boys who literally could only hang out together at like the community pool.

Yeah.

All right.

So let's talk about the actual episode.

First date was Brie, who I just love.

She's so clearly like a top four.

Like, she's one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever seen in my life.

When she got chosen, she was like, oh man, no, this is my ugliest outfit.

Like, queen, we were standing a relatable queen.

But they let her change.

Oh, did they?

Yeah, because she was wearing something different on the date.

Well, because she needed a bathing suit, too.

So how could she have known?

Yeah, and she wound up getting the outfit completely dirty.

So if it, if she wound up having to wear her ugliest, plus she was wearing a dress and she wound up wearing pants.

Like, you're not going to wear a dress to get it.

On an ATV, yeah.

So it was, she changed, but she's so cute.

Their date was really really cute um she's so pretty I love that they like oh my god oh her background was so interesting that her mom gave birth to her at 13 and it's like always just been the two of them and her dad wasn't around and Matt and her were just like vibing like on similar backstories and I just think she's like such a winner like it's crazy she's such a winner I loved what she was saying about like creating her own like big family like gravitating towards friends with big families and like just want like wanting to meet that person and then like making a big family I feel like her and Matt were just completely on the same page My only like concern is usually the person who gets the first date like doesn't win.

And they fizzle out.

Yeah, they do.

Like they're really strong and they'll and she'll probably make it to top four, but then like

they sort of get overlooked.

So I almost wish she didn't have the first date for that reason because like history doesn't bode well.

But you never know.

I feel like Maddie had the first date.

of Peter.

I was trying to think about it this morning.

Well, I actually think that although I literally love her so much, and if it were, I was the bachelor, I would pick Brie like hands down from the second she came out of the the limo like she was just special I don't think that he picks her like I just don't think that that's what's gonna happen and I didn't read any spoilers that's just the vibe I think like Rachel or like Maury

like I think that's more his type oh you do yeah

interesting I have no idea who he's gonna pick you can even tell now like who he's really vibing with I feel like he has really good connections with like at least six people agreed And you can also tell when he's like, can I take you back upstairs, Victoria?

Yeah.

Okay, well, so let's talk about the group date because I actually texted this to Margo um and she was like laughing but I was really being serious when I say that when Victoria like cut the line for the photo shoot and by the way we have to talk about the photographer because it was the same one for

it was the same Vaseline Vaseline photographer the Vaseline lens um when she just kind of like really like in my opinion, like really, obviously she was being insane, but when she like kissed Matt and his body language was so obviously not into it and like she was being really aggressive.

Like, I really felt like that wasn't okay.

Like, you can't just kiss people because you want to kiss them.

Like, they have to reciprocate the kiss back.

And it was so clear that he was not reciprocating it.

Yeah.

It was insane.

That happens a lot on this show.

And it's just sort of like, okay, like, it just seems to be par for the course.

Yeah.

It's extremely uncomfortable to watch.

And I imagine extremely uncomfortable for the lead.

Yeah.

I mean, he obviously doesn't like Victoria.

I don't know how anyone can stand her.

I like actually feel bad because she's so clearly the villain.

But it's almost like she's a paid actress.

Like she's such a villain.

100%.

Like I going into last night's episode, I was like, I feel like she's just putting on this like queen front because, you know, it's an interesting, like, it'll get her airtime.

And obviously, like, she's not going to go very far, but it's a way to do to do the show.

But then last night, I was like, I think this is like who she is.

Yeah.

You know, because you can't even, like, if you're a regular person, just like putting on, like, I don't even think you can conceive of being that irrelevant.

Insane, no, and when I see people who became like the villains, like, I do see how editing plays a part and how some of the things they're saying, like, might make sense in different contexts.

But, like, she reminds me, and I don't want to compare because I actually think Corinne is like so funny and really was like a gem.

She was never going to make it like with Nick, but I think

for entertainment, like, she was so funny and cute.

And yes, she said some crazy things, but it reminds me of that because

I think that she came into the show with the intention of being that, but she's coming off so annoying and so rude.

And she made me like that girl.

Who is she fighting with?

Marianne is like that.

Marilyn.

Marilyn.

She made me like her when before that she was having this conversation with Matt.

She's like, I feel like you don't even remember me.

And it's like, obviously he doesn't.

There's 30 girls here and you didn't get a date this week.

And she's just like on TikTok, they call her like a pick-me girl.

And it's like,

how?

You know, like those girls, like, meh, me.

Do you know what I'm saying?

Like, I thought you didn't want me like do you know what I mean?

She was bothering me so much.

And then I ended up feeling bad for her because Victoria was so mean to her and was like so clearly manipulating Matt in that conversation.

Yeah, but like when Victoria said Victoria's clearly describing like a scene that happened in their room that we never saw.

Yes.

And Marilyn said such terrible things to her and the girls were like, I can't imagine Marilyn saying that.

Like tell us what you think that she said.

Also, it's worth noting that Marilyn didn't deny it.

She apologized.

She's like, maybe Victoria's telling the truth.

No, it's like, even if Victoria telling the truth, like, okay, fine.

I'm not even concerned about like the Marilyn drama.

I'm just like, the way that you're coming off.

And also, what's so crazy is, like, she said, she said that she was jealous, right?

Of the date.

Sure.

And the other girls were happy for her.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then.

And then she said, I can't fathom, like, they're all jealous, but they're also having breeze and ice girls.

Yeah, no, but.

Like, then later in the episode, when Sarah goes on her one-on-one, I think Rachel says, like, I, it's, or someone says, like, I'm jealous, but it's just the tone in which you say it versus, like, makes the biggest difference.

Of course, there's an understanding amongst everyone that everyone's jealous whoever goes on the date because it's not them.

But you could also be happy for your friend.

Yeah.

No, she's also just like a little too early to come out like this, like this, and it's I'm not into it.

She doesn't go home because she's in the previews for next week being insane again.

And all I have to say is that both when she was wearing the bride dress and when she was wearing her rose ceremony dress, her bra was sticking out the whole time and it was bothering me so much.

Like a queen literally would never.

Like that's literal, like rule one of you.

It's not even written because it's unwritten.

Queen Victoria is like rolling over in her grave.

You can't even cross your legs when you're a queen, like let alone have your bra strap.

Not once but twice.

Nah.

And yeah, no, she's just so messy in so many ways.

And she's...

I feel conflicted about her because I think girls like her are like a necessary evil on the show.

Like they definitely, like, what else would we be talking about?

Like, they keep it interesting.

But I'm really one of the people who watches for the connections.

And she's just getting in the way of that.

Yeah, but I also think when that like sort of planted villain does go, there does become drama amongst like the core group.

Just real drama.

Of real drama.

Emotions are heightened.

Like, and so I think the sooner like that

we

get rid of girls, the more then we get to like a point of interesting drama.

Like, I'm just don't find that interesting.

I agree.

Um, it's like silly gimmicks.

Yeah.

And the third date was with Sarah, who honestly I had not recognized, but I thought she was really cute.

I thought he might send her home before the dinner because like it seemed like they weren't vibing at all.

Like they didn't have much to to talk about But it was because she was like clearly holding something back.

Yeah, um and honestly it was like so sad when she was talking about her dad

I was like crying and I just like Matt is such like a gentleman like and those are like difficult conversations to both you know share with someone and also to receive that information like you want to say the right thing but Matt James is the king of just like saying and doing the right thing.

100%.

But also I feel like I'll pray for him.

Now that I'm just watching the season and more so on the group date, not on the one-on-ones because you're literally like being chosen to like share, open up.

Yeah.

But on the group dates when they just like sit down with him and like tell them, tell him.

In third grade, I was bullied.

I agree.

It's like so weird.

No, and like then Victoria like went and she was like, I'm insecure sometimes.

Sometimes I feel fat.

I'm like, yeah, me too.

Literally think she's going to get a rose for me because of that.

I know I seem confident, but sometimes I'm not.

No, it's like, so you're human.

Like, congrats.

Like, that's her big secret.

Like, everyone just sits around like waiting to open up.

Like, either if this is group therapy.

And waiting to one-up each other, like, with their story.

Yeah.

It's, it's, I agree.

I thought that way on Claire's season too.

Stories are coming earlier and earlier now.

Like, it's only episode two.

Like, I would, like, I would save my story to, like, unless my one-on-one.

Top six.

Or at least my one-on-one.

Yes.

No, I agree.

It's like this weird cycle that started and now I'm seeing it for how weird it is.

And I really saw it on Claire's season when they were doing that painting date.

And like, it was literally group therapy.

Like, it was so funny.

So you were also like trying to one-up each other in terms of like winning Claire's over like the hardest.

It was so bizarre.

I completely agree.

But all in all, a decent episode.

It ended with Sarah like fainting at the.

I know.

I don't know what that was about.

I don't know.

Victoria Boysenter.

Maybe, but she already had a rose, so like she couldn't have been like so nervous about the rose ceremony, but maybe just the evidence.

She's like, I've never been eating all day.

Yeah, or maybe like the altitude is different at Nemicolan.

I think they're in the mountains.

Yeah, but like the Pocono Mountains.

It's not like high altitude.

Okay, I'm just, you know, you never know.

Also, um, I want to talk about Kip.

Yeah, she was like totally irrelevant this episode.

Totally irrelevant, but she, so the sweater I was wearing on the show yesterday, she had just posted on her Instagram.

Someone sent me, so I took a trip down her Instagram.

I've been there.

Fabulosity.

Oozing fabulosity makes no sense.

You see her Instagram and you're like, why is this girl on the battlefield?

Right.

So that's what I want to talk about because even on the show, like she, her outfits are so on point.

And she dresses like very New York.

New York.

Not like she even wore like a mini dress for the first night, which is

not done.

Like she wore like little kitten heels on the group date dinner.

I don't know if you saw them, but they were like a very classy kitten heel.

She watched the premiere of The Bachelor with Kaya Gerber.

Like this makes no sense.

It makes no sense.

Yeah.

Okay.

And also she's 21 years old.

She's the youngest contestant this season.

So like the minute she was able to apply for The Bachelor, she did.

Right.

When like she literally lives in the lap of luxury.

So

I'm happy to have her here on the show and I look forward to the looks looks that she's going to bring because so far they've been impeccable.

But why is she here?

No, and we all know she's Cynthia Rowley's daughter.

Yes, me and Ben spoke about it last week.

And we both agreed that it was so weird, but that she also looked like Queen's Gamut.

No, she's she's so, like, I'm loving seeing her, but I'm just so confused.

I would like an explanation.

I feel like I was looking at her Instagram and it's so influencer-y.

Like, I think she really went on for the Instagram followers.

100%.

Like, as many followers as quickly as possible.

And then she'll leave Bachelor Nation behind.

She's not going to win.

She's not going to do any more shows.

I don't think she's going to go on paradise.

No, I think she'll have like a couple hundred thousand.

And like, that's really like the good base for her fabulous life in New York City.

So she's going justify her just like taking pictures all day and being like an influencer for Cynthia Rowley.

Yeah.

I mean, I do think there are other ways to get Instagram followers that are less strenuous on the body.

Like this way of going on the bachelor's, like foolproof.

Well, that's why these girls cry so hard on night one because like you think of followers, but then but then you go home on night one.

But if you can like, you know, do okay,

it's a foolproof way to get half a million followers.

There's a girl who went home night one who has made like 10 TikToks about like trying to like make jokes about going home night one on the bachelor.

And it's so thirsty and so not funny.

And I'm so glad she got sent home night one because like that's not the type of energy we need.

I mean, speaking of night one girls who go sent home, remember those girls?

I forget.

I think they were

on RA season.

Seven girls got sent home the first night and they all like started a club.

The Rose squad or something.

something like rose over roses yeah yeah and we like made fun of them on the morning breath and they like wrote me a nasty message that's like my life like

getting messages from people i've spoken shit about yeah

so anyway it is what it is it is what it is i'm so glad that the rose rose girls like really took off for sure and they're still going strong no and it's like i think they have like one of the biggest i don't even know what clubs what is it

i just remember they had like a photo shoot and they wrote they had a photo shoot and an instagram page Rose over Roses, something like that.

And I don't know where it went from there.

I think they would do like Vinny Skype calls.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Also, I just want to say Rachel's rose ceremony dress look was so stunning

like movie star red carpet.

It was a black, I think, silk halter dress, open back.

She had her hair up.

Like it was.

It was a level of look that we don't typically see on the bachelor.

It was like old Hollywood.

It was stunning.

Love to see it.

It was stunning.

I find the the girl who brought the vibrator her name is katie and like she literally faded back into irrelevancy where she belongs last night she was the vibrator all episode i thought she was the goat hoof she's so annoying like i just

she's like her energy is like just the type of girl like i run from do you know what i mean

I'm actually sure she's pretty nice, but I just mean like on the show, like no, but also it's like, I didn't even remember that she was vibrator girl.

And so to go from being vibrator girl to just being like one of the girls.

And not one, even one of the good ones.

No, you could either be a writer girl or a vibrator girl.

And that's it.

And you choose to be a writer girl because Girl with No Job, the crazy, beautiful life of an Instagram first monster comes out on January 1st.

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It's true.

Get your copy at girlwithnojob.com/slash book.

And Jerry, why don't you tell everyone a little bit about your feelings

while reading the book?

Like you were one of the first to read it.

So I read it back in June, I think, and my feelings were like, I was trying to take myself out of being your sister.

And I was like, this is the exact book that I'm looking for from like my favorite influencers you know yeah and you know I was really conscious when writing the book I've read other influencer and like reality star people like in our space I've read their books and I think what the sentiment sometimes is is like this person's like really not self-aware and like cringy and like you know is very privileged and I'm aware I recognize you know my privilege and I really didn't want to come off in the book as like not being self-aware and like not being cringy.

And that's why like when I had you read it, I was like embarrassed because I just like didn't want you to feel that way about something that I wrote.

No, I didn't feel that way.

And anytime I ever did, I definitely made a note and like just

we removed it.

But my biggest issue with like those types of books is they're just not very interesting or good or share anything that like I didn't anything know if I that's the hard thing about like being an influencer or podcaster like on Instagram.

Yes.

Everyone knows everything about you.

So when you write a book, you have to share things that you don't typically share.

Yeah.

And I, by the way, a hundred percent.

And I think one of the things I actually really pride myself on is the fact that you can be a Patreon member,

listen to the toast every day, follow me on Instagram for the last 10 years, and you won't know most of the stuff in this book.

Right.

And even as your sister, like you're just sharing like thoughts and insights that you've had that I might not know.

So it's really like you are getting more than just like your Instagram stories, which it can be hard for a lot of people to do.

When you share all the time.

When you share all the time.

But I'm just like an endless well of information, knowledge, and stories.

And you're going to see.

That really comes through.

Really comes through.

Again, you could pre-order it at girlwithnojob.com/slash book.

I think that's all we got for you guys.

I think that's all she wrote.

I'm sure there's something on tonight.

I think Real House Size of Dallas, which I'm actually really excited about.

Oh, great.

We both watched the premiere, so we'll recap like the first and second episodes together.

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