Soundmakers of The Century: Thursday, September 4th, 2025

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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.

That really doesn't feel like it because we haven't even acknowledged the fact that, of course, we came back to work on a short work week.

God bless Labor Day.

Hey, Jax, how you doing?

I'm dirting good.

And I just want to say our founding fathers ate with that one too, because I think that they knew after summer, like to ease back into work, like it has to be a four-day week.

If this were a five-day week, it would be more challenging.

And this four-day week, the fact that it's Thursday is like the best, the highlight of

the day today.

It's insane.

It's like so unearned, but so needed.

Yeah, sometimes you'll get a national holiday.

And it's like, okay, you know, I didn't need it, but I'll take it.

Very much like Columbus Day slash Indigenous Peoples Day.

Like it's in the midst of holiday craziness.

Like, I don't need it, but I'll take it.

And then sometimes you get like, you're in the desert, you know?

It's a cold drink.

Exactly.

A mirage, if you will.

In the middle of a hot.

dry desert.

And that's what we needed.

And it's been a great week so far.

Toast is back.

Your girls are back.

It's just.

It's been amazing.

Things feel right, Turtleoo.

I like saw a couple of toasters in the street and also at the U.S.

Open.

Everybody's like, Are you so happy to be back?

I'm like, Yeah.

And I'm not even lying.

Like, I'm so happy to be back.

Yeah.

No, it's, it, it feels good.

It feels good.

Now, I have a list of things I need to chat with you about

before we dive into today's show.

And I have a list.

So I have four things, if you'll allow me.

Okay.

The first is we have to talk about what went down at the U.S.

Open last night.

The Spritz Brothers.

They won again.

The Spritz Brethren.

Tracy.

Brother.

Brethren.

Tracy.

Like

JJ Tracy and Bob Cash.

I almost said Bob Ross.

This doubles team, you know, relatively new that we sponsored.

Like, they just keep winning.

They beat another top 10 team yesterday.

They're just these like two young guys crushing it.

And I love that like everyone's now watching.

I'm sure, I wonder if like ESPN is curious why this like random, because I had to download ESPN Plus.

I paid $20 a month now, $29 actually, which I thought was pretty sane

to watch a match.

And I'm sure they're like, what's with this uptick in interest in this, you know, random round of men's doubles?

Well, obviously the toasters are behind it.

They're playing again today.

And I think if they make, if they win this one, it's the finals, which I will be going.

And I just want to say, a Spritz athlete has never lost a game.

Chills.

Just something to think about.

That is statistically true in this moment.

No, and like I'm getting an athlete never loses.

I'm getting so into tennis.

I'm literally Page Lorenz, like, serious, like, just obsessed.

Like,

could like, I get home and I'm like, we have to watch.

And I know everything.

You know what I mean?

So, who's going to win the men?

Who won last night?

Who's winning?

I'm not watching.

So, it's so funny that you brought that up because me and Ben were talking about like the top players.

And obviously, like, Jokovich, uh, who beat Fritz?

Alcaraz.

Djokovic won.

And then Alcaraz is just crushing.

And they're ranked like two, three, four, five.

And I'm like, wait, who's ranked number one?

And And it's this guy named Sinner, who I've literally never heard of.

I'm happy for him.

Everybody's really excited.

He is playing tomorrow.

Yeah.

So he's in.

And then this guy from Canada who's ranked like 25th, but he's kind of the underdog.

He's made it so far.

And everybody's like loving him.

Oh, what a boutat.

What a boutat.

So yeah, Yannique Sinner.

But who cares about that?

I'm on to doubles.

I've heard of him.

I just want to say I've heard of Yannick.

Okay, Paige.

Yeah, assuming Paige.

You've heard of Yannick?

I'm pretty sure I have.

I don't know in what context, but like that, the name feels familiar.

Second thing I need to talk about.

Did you get your mail yesterday?

No, I didn't, but I saw that you did, and you got with Love Megan PR.

And I just need you guys to know, like, if you thought I wasn't getting it, it is on its way to me.

So it was, they reached out dually to both of us in the same way, not to the girl who clowned on the show.

And by the way, whenever that show did come out, I don't know how you guys remember it, but nobody was more supportive than me.

A thousand percent, that's why we're on the PR list.

Yeah.

So I got, and it's a party PR.

I don't want to ruin it for you, but I do want to share with the listeners that what Megan is sending out, I didn't even post all of it.

Oh, because I saw what you posted.

So, yeah, it's two boxes.

And in one box is like, you know, Megan Inc, as ever, jam,

shortbread cookie, a bunch of napkins that say with Love Megan on it, which, like, no offense, I don't know why I need that, but I'll take it.

A spatula that says with Love Megan.

And then there was a second box of baking pans from our place,

which is that brand everybody loves.

They're pink and they're actually perfect because ben needs like bread scented

exactly um so it was really a high class affair

and i got the jam cooking with pink pans i don't know i got the jam and like not to complain because i'm obviously really grateful to be on the pr list

it was apricot

oh man and you guys know something about me like i really only fuck with strawberry and maybe raspberry if i have to blueberry would be fine no it wouldn't like apricot is just like she might as well give it me dirty.

No.

I'm very jam-specific.

I understand.

Well, I'm so looking forward to getting married.

I think we should do a Patreon of us like baking some of the stuff.

Well, oh, so they also sent like a recipe placard that I'm literally framing.

It's like from Megan

of how to make the shortbread cookies that she, she sent like her company makes like a shortbread.

Mix, yeah.

Mix, yes.

And then she has her own recipe for like, they were called like fingerprint cookies or something.

Patreon.

Totally.

Oh, yeah, the fingerprint cookies.

That's what she made when she went on that show.

And she made all the fingerprint cookies.

Synergy.

Oh, that's very exciting.

I keep checking the door like a kid on Christmas because I believe mine is coming because they asked for my address as well.

Of course, the shipping center might have been closer to New York.

It happened to be the choice.

Now, the third thing I needed to talk to you about was major, major, major, major things happening on the internet yesterday.

Alex Earl made a TikTok using our sound.

Now, I feel like that was her virtue signaling to us.

Like, she hears what we say.

She appreciates how supportive we are, and she loves us.

That's, that's how I received it.

Yeah, I received the subliminal message as well.

Very Josie and the Pussycats.

Also,

a lot of people use our sounds.

Like, we're very viral.

Our sounds are very popular.

People love the things that we say and they want to mimic the things that we say.

Like, that's just.

And they want to be us.

They love us.

We're so perfect and rich and gorgeous.

That's just been a fact for a while.

Like, people love our sounds.

Fact.

And big stars have used our sounds.

Huge, Renee Zellweger.

But when it comes to TikTok, like the biggest person who could use your sound is Alex Earl.

Like, the sound's about to live another life.

And what do we do about it?

You know, I don't, I'm trying to not let it get to my head.

Obviously, I was glued to my phone all day.

Where do we go from here?

I just think that we can add that to our resume of like viral soundmakers.

Yeah, yeah, viral audio curators.

Yeah, like soundmakers, change makers in the industry.

Soundmakers, I love that.

Yeah.

So that's what we podcast and we sound make.

And that's like, you know, you know, like the DJs who do like remixes that everybody then uses for transition reels and like that's there.

Like we're like that.

And we also have jobs.

We are like the guy.

And

2024 season has come to a close.

Sammy.

Sammy, who we did go to middle school with.

He's a fellow viral soundmaker.

Yeah, exactly.

There's a couple of us we should get together.

And have like viral sound coming.

I'm like the 500-pound sisters.

You tried, trying

to be.

You don't know how it is.

You can do stuff.

So

we're just amongst those people.

You know, we're kind of giving like thousand-pound sister energy these days.

I love that for us.

I really do.

Same.

Would thousand pound sisters be drinking lemon water?

I don't think so.

Oh, no.

Nurse, she's out with her lemon water.

Wait, you did remind me of something I wanted to say.

I'm trying to take care of my instrument.

Like, I really am trying.

Like, it's actually so important that I have a voice.

I was editing Redheads last night and like listening to myself speak, like, it was making me cough more because the girl can't speak.

I know you're not into pharmaceuticals, obviously.

However, a mucinex in a situation like this does go extremely hard.

For sure.

I'm pregnant.

Like, oh, right.

Yeah, no, if I weren't pregnant, yeah, hit me up.

I'm not taking anything like seriously.

Although, especially now, like, can't trust anything.

Although, Mucinex did give Ben a 12-hour erection.

So, one time when he took it, you know, you take a look.

Just letting you know, Mucinex D, emphasis on the D.

Oh, well, that D goes wild.

I just want to know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that gave Ben a 12-hour erection.

But, like, Allegra D, Clarita D, when you add the D,

I'm not even joking you.

Like, it's an antihistamine that, like, makes you nutty.

It's like taking a,

it makes you hard.

Well, I didn't know that it makes you hard, but do you know that when you're trying to wean from breastfeeding, it's useful to take a mucinax.

A D?

A mucinex because it

strips you of your liquids, you know, in your nose, in your breasts,

in your throat.

Just the right

inside baseball.

Now, speaking of breasts, the fourth thing I wanted to talk to you about, which is something I sent you last night and you didn't even respond, brood, was Emily Oster.

I've kind of been begging Emily Oster.

You sent it at a horrible time.

I didn't even.

No, listen, I'm going to play it for you.

Don't worry.

Where did you send it in fam chat or in?

Yeah.

Okay.

So I've been like sort of begging subliminally, Emily Oster.

For those who don't know, I was trying to explain to Betty.

Who is Emily Oster, Jackie?

Like, explain to me.

Emily Oster.

So she's like a professor of economics.

She's a statistician.

That's her like trade.

She runs numbers.

She does data.

And then she became pregnant and a mother and she started applying all of her like data analyzing skills to pregnancy and motherhood in terms of best outcomes for pregnancy, best outcomes for parenting.

Based on data.

Based on data.

And she put all of that into a series of books that have become, especially the pregnancy book, Expecting Better,

that have become really like the most popular pregnancy books at the moment.

She's like the leading.

Swirly on all things parenthood, motherhood, babyhood, pregnancy.

Yeah, and then she's also close personal friends with Dr.

Fox, which gives her even more street cred in the space.

So I've kind of been like waiting for her and like just

subliminally begging her to speak on Ozempic in breastfeeding.

I feel like it's the perfect topic for her.

And I guess she does these weekly Q ⁇ As.

I just followed her on Instagram because last night somebody sent me her Instagram story being like, she's speaking your truth.

Somebody asked, weight loss meds while breastfeeding.

I heard it's okay.

I also heard it's not okay.

What does the data say?

Now, I have read the data actually.

There's like one study done.

God forbid they invest in women's studies.

Here's what she had to say:

best and most recent data we have really doesn't suggest that these medications pass through at meaningful levels in the breast milk, so it's really not a concern for your baby.

When you are first breastfeeding, especially and you're establishing supply, you really want to make sure you're getting enough calories, and that's probably not the time for.

But if we're talking about you're six months or a year into breastfeeding and

it is time to think about some weight loss for whatever reason.

Time to think about it.

There isn't any reason

that necessarily needs to get in the way that it necessarily needs to get in the way.

Now, this was huge, obviously, for fat girls breastfeeding everywhere.

Because as you guys know, my bane, the bane of my existence, like my cross to bear in this lifetime, is that I absolutely love breastfeeding.

I have an amazing supply, like, and I'm crushing it.

And I didn't think that I would.

And unfortunately, like, I am going to have to stop because I need to get on a Zepic.

And it's sounding like Emily Oster is saying, like, I actually don't have to.

So I appreciate Emily for telling you what you want to hear.

If you, I still don't think it's a good idea.

And I appreciate your input.

I appreciate Emily's input.

I'm appreciating a lot of people's inputs until I make my decision.

I haven't decided.

You've decided?

No, I said I haven't decided.

Oh, oh, okay.

But having Emily on my team,

huge for the community.

Now, who do I have to pay to like do a study?

And I want to totally impartial.

They take years because you have to then see how this baby, it's not just a minute.

Like, oh, what happened in this minute that the baby had to do?

No, why?

Like, give me Ozempic for a month and I'll make milk and you tell me if there's Ozempic in the milk at the end.

But it's not going to be Ozempic in the milk.

Study concluded.

It could be other things that have long-term effects, not short-term.

I'm sorry.

I can't live like this anymore.

I can't live like this anymore.

Even though I was just having this conversation with somebody, like having weight fluctuations as a public figure, like is so interesting.

Right.

And I talked about this a lot.

Like when I got really skinny, I felt like I definitely had more work opportunities,

just like brands, fashion, like you're open to more things.

But people like hate you because you have an amazing personality and you're skinny.

Like you're lethal.

I feel like now that I'm fat again, like people like me again.

Do you know what I mean?

I'm feeling more beloved than ever.

And that's like kind of one thing I'm really liking about being overweight again.

But do you also think that

the belovedness comes from like new motherhood?

Like, it's not just that you just gained weight.

Like, you didn't just get it.

No, people love fat bitches.

Like, we're non-threatening, right?

Like, we're not going to take your man.

We're fat.

Like, people, especially on the internet, they love to champion someone non-threatening.

Yeah.

And little do you bitches know I'm so fucking threatening.

Like, no, but I think.

I think it's more than just like a weight gain.

I think, you know, new motherhood, I think also being a mom is great for opportunities as well.

So I think you're feeling the love, but not for just the reasons that you think.

No, Jackie, I'm telling you.

Look in turd self-lid.

No, I'm telling you.

Like they love a fat bitch.

They love Mother Turdy.

Mother Teresa, like seriously, is so threatened by me.

It's disgusting.

They love Mama Turd.

Mama Turd for sure.

Just saying.

Anyways, let us know what you decide if you're going to take Ozempic and breastfeed.

I will.

I haven't decided yet, but I just wanted to let you know those are the four things I wanted to discuss.

Robert Cash, Megan Markle, Alex Earl, Emily Oster.

Anything you want to talk about?

Well, since we're talking about like medication and pregnancy, I kind of like broke the internet yesterday when I said I wasn't taking prenatals.

Like literally, I just like threw that in there.

Well, Jackie and I found out over the summer that I was like, let me just say,

people like messaged me and asked me, and I could tell they were like, some people were not good faith, you know, because they just wanted to screenshot what I said and be like, she's crazy.

What happened?

And she is, by the way.

No, no, no.

I'm actually, this is me not even being crazy.

I took these prenatals in both my pregnancies.

She had me on them.

I've been on them for like four years.

I liked the results.

So I took them.

I was taking them again for this one and Claudia was taking them.

And then a couple months ago, the prenatals were recalled.

Yeah.

So I said, fuck all you bitches.

I'll eat more fish.

I'll have a steak.

Yeah.

That's fucking crazy.

It's crazy.

I was the one who told you about it because I got a DM asking what prenatals I took.

And I just.

You could see that I still wouldn't even know that they were recalled.

Yes.

so i just shared send me a piece of mail and it wasn't like this like niche company like i would say it's like one of the yellow bottle it's the yellow bottle they sell it first on amazon it's first at every grocery store it's everywhere and i've been taking them for years i just posted it and everyone was dming me like hey bitch you know these were recalled i said excuse me i deleted the story immediately and i told jackie yeah yucky yucky so i i i hear you so that's why i mean like that's why i'm not taking prenatals it's it would be weird if i continued to well i did continue taking those prenatals after my pregnancy because i heard it helps with hair loss and then i found out they were recalled so i switched to another one next thing i know i'm shitting orange so i just got off the pills like i'm just on a break just eat healthy well it's hard i can't i can't like i know it's not that it's hard it's simple it's not possible for some of us it's also it's just like a lot of admin you know like i have to go to the store and buy steak Then I have to cook it.

I thought you were saying it's a lot of admin to take the prenatals because that was something that surprised me in pregnancy.

Like, I took them every day.

Like, I don't think I missed one.

Yeah.

No, it's exciting to get to the bottom of the bottle.

It marks like a big

moment in your pregnancy.

You're like, I'm one bottle through because it's such a big bottle.

So if you've taken one every day, you really, it means something.

It's like a marketing time of time.

That's a milestone they don't warn you about.

It's the passage of time.

It's a significant one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now, in terms of stories, what's the elk?

CT, classic toast.

Speaking of the elk, I've got to get a Powerball ticket.

It's over a billion dollars.

Did somebody win?

Let me check.

I've been liking the stories because I feel like over the summer, we were every story was like such a massive story that required like in-depth investigation.

And this today and like this week, it's just like little stories that we can just chat about and move on.

And I'm enjoying that.

Did anyone win the Powerball?

Winning numbers for $1.4 billion.

No one has won.

No one's come forward.

I got to get a ticket.

No grand prize winner, but there were a couple of people who won two million and one million dollars.

I'm happy for them.

Can't wait to see them on the next season of My Lottery Dream Home.

Yeah.

No, that's the sort of warnings that will ruin your life.

You know?

Because you like just get big ideas.

You forget about the tax man.

Oh, wait.

Speaking of Yanique Sinner, I just heard something interestant.

Brooks Nader is rumored to be dating Yanique Sinner.

Well, I saw her

and her sisters, who are doing a great job at creating buzz for their show.

And I see that.

Promoting their show, yeah.

When the time comes, I will be watching.

100%.

Time being when I like finish Show Houses in Miami.

I saw her and her sisters like talking about her roster and making a lot of allusions to tennis.

Yeah, so

my sources are saying Yannique Nader.

Well, I love that Yanique.

Because like Gleb, I know she's talking talking now about how, like, Gleb broke her heart.

Like, how?

I don't know.

She's like, rumored to be dating Tom Brady.

I was going to say, broke your heart.

The charity she was doing dating Gleb when she literally has been connected to Tom Brady and Yannique.

No, it's crazy.

But like, truly, when I hear her speaking about Gleb, like, she was really in love with him, which is so crazy.

That is crazy.

Like, it was very real, even though the whole time we thought it was not real.

I meant to say, now that Alex Earl has used our sound, I do think I'm gonna watch Dancing with the Stars.

And I know that the listeners of this show who have been watching for years and like who are obsessed, there's a cult about Dancing with the Stars.

Like, I'm ready for the documentary, who like go to see them on tour, they're gonna be like so excited to hear me say that.

But I'm in this era, I'm in my cable era.

I feel like once you become a mom, you watch a lot more cable.

And I think I'll be watching Dibotus.

Okay, great.

I'll keep you updated.

I won't stop you.

Oh, you know what we didn't do yesterday?

Who do you think is going to win?

Dibbotus.

You have to read me the entire roster again.

No one jumped out at you.

I don't remember.

All I remember was Laura Hairegi's riptides.

One, I think Alex Earl could win if she wants to, but I could also see her.

No, but she's like the obvious winner, and they never let the obvious winner.

I could also see her a few weeks in being like, I want to go home.

You know, this was.

Get me back to Miami.

Yeah, I miss Brax.

Alex Earl, Robert Irwin.

Oh, I could see one of the Secret Lives girls.

I think I'm going to put my money on Whitney.

Me too.

Hilaria, no, Jordan Childs.

like she has the talent, but I don't think she has the fan base.

Dylan Efron, honestly, they love to like, you know, put like men.

No, the men who do like bare minimum.

Like, he's so good.

Like, do you see what the girl's doing?

Yeah.

Whitney.

Yeah, I'm looking at the rest.

I do feel like Whitney.

Yeah, they also love to give it to somebody in the synergetic network of Hulu, Disney, ABC, SPN.

And like, rising tides, rise all shades.

So Whitney being a Hulu star just helps with synergy.

Yeah.

So Jack Donaghy.

well that will be fun

beyond that i do think it's time yeah me too for the fast five stories that you do do need to know

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Are you ready for our first story?

A bit of an update on Miss Kelly Clarkson.

Oh, what is she up to?

I haven't heard this.

Her talk show return date has been revealed following Brandon Blackstock's death.

So Kelly will be making her long-awaited return to her show, the Kelly Clarkson Show.

Production on the season will begin on the week of September 8th, with celebrity guests like Julia Roberts, Dwayne Johnson, and Emily Blunt in the lineup.

Oh, okay.

So, just like back to business.

Back to working on September 8th.

Now,

I feel like

it's almost not quite yet, but it's almost time

for the show to end.

No.

For

um.

Come on.

I don't know.

For a Kelly Clarkson memoir.

Like,

I would have thought that she would be a perfect candidate for a Kelly Clarkson memo.

Like, truly, America's sweetheart, America's first idol.

Like, she's lived such a life.

But she also now has, like, a very sort of like

mysterious, sordid personal life.

And now this great tragedy.

I do feel like we're going to get a Kelly Clarkson memoir in the next couple of years.

And it's going to be like insane.

Yeah, but not like she couldn't sit down to write it today because I think

she's still living through it.

She's living through it.

Things are unsettled.

Who even knows what will be with the show?

I think once she finishes the show and she enters the next chapter of her life, that chapter, no pun intended, might include a memoir.

Memoirs of a Kelly.

Of course, we have to, you know.

Project, no, predict, excuse me, what memoirs of a Kelly are going to be titled because I'm thinking like a breakaway, Colin, the Kelly Clarkson story.

I think something like America's Idol, the kelly

love love or like maybe i should take some time off and i'll be like since i've been gone

they honestly are endless what doesn't kill you makes you stronger she has so many she really does have so many i saw like a funny meme going around that was like american idol like sent out set out to like find the best i saw this too voice in the nation they literally crushed it season one and they should have closed down shop ever since like like the mission wasn't they literally found the american idol correct They also found like Carrie Underwood and other

great talents who were from the American Idol.

Of course, so many people came from American Idol like Jennifer Hudson.

I mean David Archilletta?

No, but like Jennifer Hudson came from American Idol, but she wasn't just American Idol.

He didn't win either.

Right.

So, but I'm just saying, like, the job they set out to do was done.

Things they did, that.

Now, obviously, Kelly Clarkson is a dream guest on this show, even though we like don't do guests.

And I do think that when she writes the memoir, like, that's that's the perfect time for her to come on.

Like, we will get an advanced copy and we will do an in-depth interview.

Okay.

So we'll see you in a couple years.

So, write that book, Kelly.

Get to work.

Yeah.

I am excited that, you know, when you're dealing with something as tragic as she's going through, sometimes just getting back to work helps, you know, takes your mind off of things, gives you purpose, fills your days.

And so.

I don't think she would be returning if she wasn't ready because I think the network like respects her.

I think like they would give her as much time off as she needed.

She is holding that network together.

I agree.

And I think, I think probably the harder parts of this entire journey like happened earlier.

Before.

And like he was dying and there was time.

And I think those months were probably really hard.

Yeah.

So I hope that this is the sign of like better days to come for her.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's just really crazy that like we don't see Kelly Clarkson out and about more.

She lives in New York.

Well, she is kind of like a Hannah Montana where it's like if she puts on a ball cap, she's just a regular girl.

Yeah.

And as somebody who has actually met Kelly Clarkson.

Ordinary girl.

Oh, my God.

And my voice is amazing today.

I didn't even think about that.

Sticky shoes.

Sticky shoes.

My sticky, sticky shoes.

I did meet Kelly Clarkson, and it was at like a fancy event, and she totally blended.

And I think she was wearing like a baseball hat.

She's extremely low-key.

Yeah, exactly, which is nice for her.

Yeah.

Well, I'm looking forward to the memoir.

I'm looking forward to the show returning.

Just Queen Kelly, always like sending love from your Clarksonators.

It's true.

Are you ready for our next story?

Mm-hmm.

A little book to movie news.

Not the typical kind.

Withering Heights trailer has dropped.

Yeah.

Jacob Alorty seduces Margot Robbie in erotic footage from Saltburn director Emerald Fennell's movie.

So we knew that they were playing Heathcliff and Kathy in Wuthering Heights.

And the poster like looked legit.

Like I thought it was a weird casting.

And maybe I just like a PTSD from this book in high school like being so torturous like heathcliff is so heathcliff

kathy like

who knew her name was kathy

i just like wasn't excited about this and then i saw the poster and i was like oh you know what it looks like they're really making like a period piece it looks like they're putting you know respect on heathcliff's name it looked good and then i heard charlie xyx is doing the soundtrack and i was like okay no they're making it like a swirly salt birdie like can we just adapt literature in a meaningful and respectful way the yasification of weathering height Right.

Like, why?

That was something that I was yearning for.

Correct.

And I want to say, I saw

the promo.

I saw the Charlie XTX.

And I was like, okay, no, like this, this is a bridge too far.

Emily Bronte is like rolling over in her grave.

And then I watched the trailer.

And yes, it's definitely a porno if you were looking to go to the theater and see some porn, but it looks like.

good and well done.

So with the porn aspect, I'm actually okay with that.

You know, like, I don't think that makes it like yasified.

Like, Pride and Prejudice had like

porny in the sense it was very

suggestive.

No, like, did you watch a trailer?

No.

It was like fingers, like, you know,

sensual.

Yeah, but they weren't on body parts.

It was like sticking.

I can't explain it.

They were like some raw eggs and like, I don't know.

It was just like porny.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like a lot of tactile things.

Um,

but definitely signal.

I don't know how much porn you can put in a trailer.

So they were just

showing us what's to come.

But also, like, I don't think Margarita Robbie like chose Titty.

So

it can be that porny.

Is the book erotic?

I don't think so because we wouldn't have been reading it in high school.

Yeah.

So everything is porn these days.

So like if I can get past that.

Yeah, I'm not bothered by the porn.

Like the Charlie XCX really threw me off.

But when I saw the poster, I thought he looked great with those sideburns.

It it was really giving mr darcy no he really transformed for the role and even though we think he's like a big loser this looks like it could be an amazing role of a lifetime for him like he's not just like you know uh what's the kissing booth playing heathcliff like he i just want to say he will always be the kissing booth playing heathcliff but yeah he has transformed himself yeah it's a it's a level up yeah plus margo rabbi like gives everything like a stamp of approval yeah she's so legit she doesn't miss i guess except for babylon which i i never saw, so I couldn't say.

I probably like it since everybody didn't like it.

I think there's some promise for this movie.

Yeah.

And even the Charlie XTX song that was playing in the background was like, obviously, so Churles.

But it kind of worked with the mood of the trailer.

It worked.

It was a good trailer.

If you're a trailer maker, like in The Holiday.

The Holiday.

I would say you're a good trailer maker if you made this trailer.

I like that.

You really tied it all together for me.

Yeah.

So I'll see you Valentine's Day.

Me and you.

We've got big plans like for the month of February, me and you.

I feel like, oh, we're going to be like living together.

You know that?

What?

Like, you're going to be down here.

We have a lot going on for the month of February.

What?

Because we're going to Rascal Plus for the whole month.

Yeah.

Like, what else are we doing in February?

It's just always like a big month.

Like, you know, it's presence weekend.

There was like that, that festival that wanted us to come and grace them.

Yeah, we're not going.

So, like, maybe we we should because we'll be together.

But we're not going to be together.

Like, Withering Heights is coming out.

Like, it's Harry Springer.

Speaking of trailers, speaking of Withering Heights, we haven't even talked about the new Downtown Abbey movie that comes out next week.

I already bought tickets.

Like, I'm literally going in the middle of the day.

And it looks amazing.

It's all about Mary.

I know.

I have to tell my husband he's going to be so excited to go to the movies because it's all he ever wants to do.

So apparently the premise of the film is that Mary is divorced, which makes sense because in the last two movies, like her husband didn't even, he didn't even get cast.

He wasn't even in it.

And she's, you know, it's the 1930s.

She's a divorcee and it's like extremely radical and she's considered like super radioactive and nobody wants to be around her socially.

And I think it's all about like a Phoenix Mary rising from the ashes.

Well, I can't wait.

No, I can't wait.

The trailer, another A-plus stellar trailer, looked so good.

I bought tickets immediately.

Oh, that's really exciting.

I got to get my ticks.

Yeah, you do.

So it's big time for movies.

Big, big day for movies.

I feel like it's that time of year where everybody's got to like, like it starts the rollout, right?

Of the actual good movies.

Thanksgiving movies.

Right.

Yeah.

Movies that feel like real movies.

Yeah.

Speaking of the person who uttered those immortal words, Zoe Krabits and Harry Styles were spotted holding hands in Brooklyn.

So people are saying.

So Harry Styles is stateside.

Like huge news.

Yeah.

Harry Styles is down the road from you.

Literally.

Not me like roaming the streets of Brooklyn.

Harry!

And he is definitely, well, you would be doing that anyway as like an auntie who loves.

Yeah, so true.

I always forget that that's like my son's name.

He makes up for Prince Harry being like a big weenie.

He carries the name really well.

He gives it like a lot of parginess.

Yeah, like

Aura.

Okay, Gen Z.

Okay, Alex Errol.

Aura.

Yeah, you used it perfectly.

First time using that word.

Crushed.

Slade.

Crushed.

Felt good.

So these two are dating.

Like, I don't know what happened with Austin.

I don't give a rip.

Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles are dating.

And in the circle of these interchangeable celebrities who have been dating each other recently, this fits.

It does.

I feel like it's going to be really awkward for her and Austin Butler because it's clear that she started hooking up with Austin Butler when they were doing this movie together.

And then she got an opportunity to date Harry Styles and she said, sorry, I'm out.

And they're going to be promoting.

They're going to have like a lot of future work together.

And the way that it seems is like she just called it quits because like a better thing came along.

Love that for her.

And it's going to be weird when they have to start promoting stuff.

Or like they were asked to have a fake relationship for the movie.

And she was like, yeah, sure, whatever.

But then, oh, that gets in the way of me dating Harry Styles.

No.

Yeah, because when opportunity knocks, like you open the doors.

And so like the movie that they made might suffer because they're not going to be pretending to date, but okay.

Like she gets paid regardless.

And she now is like running around town with Harry Styles.

Harry Styles.

and i i just feel like he would be so in love with her i would love to know how carol radswell feels and olivia wild

yeah

because it's like olivia wilde is like so mia after that i feel like what happened to her i she needed to take a break things got really hot yeah they did with the divorce papers being served on the panel with the

with the divorce

oh right shaya and like her

shia her professionalism was called into question with that.

Her integrity as a woman, too, because she's one of those, you know, the future is female t-shirt wearing types of bitches.

And then she was out here, like, forcing Florence Pugh to work with a known abuser.

No, no, but not even that.

Like, what Florence was saying was that, like, she was so involved in her relationship with Harry on set that they, like, she didn't, like, show up and direct.

Direct.

Like, Flo started directing.

So, like, her.

capabilities as a director have been called into question.

That was such a crazy saga.

It was.

Another one that I'm like so happy to be on the other side of.

Yeah, yeah.

And yeah, yeah.

And yeah, like now Harry's settling with Zoe.

Love.

Yeah.

Although he was rumored to be briefly linked to Olivia Dean, who I talked about on this podcast a while ago.

Now everyone's obsessed with her, but like I started it first.

And I told you you would like her music.

I don't know if you've heard.

It's like a song all over TikTok now.

So come be the man I need.

Tell me I got something to say.

I want it.

Do you have heard it?

It sounds like I have, yeah.

Okay.

Well, I heard that they were dating, but I guess not.

I think he's always dating.

Yeah, but the thing about Harry is like, he's going to date a girl.

Like, if it's a week, you know, and he's single, like, why wouldn't he go on a date every week?

1000%.

Every night, a different town.

She follows me around.

Why not?

So, yeah, then a lot of girls have dated Marie Styles.

I believe it was the great Hillary Duff who once said, why not?

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Oh, some more new couple news.

Bethany Frankl reveals that she dated Jennifer Anniston's new boyfriend, Jim Curtis, and delivers a verdict on the new couple.

So one, Jennifer Aniston has a new boyfriend.

I didn't even see this.

Be right back.

Named Jim Curtis.

He's like a businessman in the wellness space.

He is like handsome and age-appropriate.

And like, so that's really nice for her.

But now Bethany is making news because on her podcast, she shared that she dated Jim like 10 years ago.

She said that he's Bethany Frankl and Jennifer Aniston like would date the same person.

No, same elk.

Yeah.

Which I think, and she said he's a really nice guy and she's really happy for Jen.

She said it didn't work out.

He works in the wellness space and I've just never been like about that.

She said, I don't love all areas of it and I don't always take all areas of it seriously.

We talked about it, but I, we just didn't get that into it.

So I think like, you know, not a match.

But I want to talk more about this guy.

He's extremely hot.

Yeah.

He looks like a mix of John Hamm and Eric Dane.

That's one of the best calls I've ever made.

Um,

she's obviously like Jennifer Addison, right?

Like, she's Rachel, she's everything, like Brad Pitt.

Like when you date Brad Pitt, it's like hard, right?

Right.

He's extremely hot.

Oh my god, how sad

every time they talk about Jennifer Addison, they talk about Brad Pitt.

Not me just actually doing that, but like in page six, because I'm reading this article.

You did just do that.

Seriously, I learned that.

Leave the woman alone.

Leave the woman alone.

Well, it's about her relationship history.

Right.

So it is sort of germane.

Sort of.

Sort of.

He has a son with his ex-wife.

Okay, that's great.

I am sort of like now, you know, lamenting the breakup of Jim and Bethany.

They could have also kind of got rid of the couple.

But she said, like, he's just, I think she was.

It's funny because she is like wellnessy, but not in a woo-woo sort of way.

No, in just like a skinny way.

Yeah, she's just skinny.

She just like wants to like cook healthy.

She just drinks lemon water and chicken salad.

But she said like

this is probably a better match.

Jen is like an actual true California girl.

And while he's not a California guy, he vibes with that wellness talk.

It's very Hollywood and very actor, not a diss, just a fact, she said.

Sounds a little bit like a diss.

But no, I feel like I understand what she's saying.

It's like a vibe.

Yeah, I am.

That she eats us outside of.

I'm just saying it's a little dissy.

As do I, as do you.

And then there's never

look at us and be like, well, you're not well.

Slobs.

Yeah.

Like you don't live at this high vibration that we do.

Like sad for you.

1000% they would say something about our vibrations.

Right.

So like they don't feel like sorry for us and we don't feel sorry for them.

Great.

Great.

We see each other.

I love that.

One thing about Bethany is like she's going to find like handsome wealthy men to date, you know?

Yeah, well, I had seen like some, the headline was like, this Jennifer Anderson's boyfriend dated this real housewife.

And I'm like, who?

You know, it's always someone like random totally but it was bethany and really she is another one who has like a very long history in the industry and she reminds me a lot right now like she moves a lot like kristen cavalari yeah

very eligible using your podcast to tell us about all the people you dated yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a good call thanks like the most eligible women seriously speaking of a good call it's always a good call to get on the call on the call on the horn with BetterHelp.

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Our fifth and final story is some exciting fashion news.

Sophia Richie Grange has teased a new label called SRG Artelier.

She posted the Instagram account for SRG Artelier.

That's what it's called.

There's nothing on the page, but it seems as though Ms.

Richie Grange is coming out with a like a luxury clothing line, which I found shocking.

I don't know why.

Obviously, like she's a a tastemaker, a trendsetter.

Everything she does is viral.

Everything she wears gets sold out.

So, like, naturally, you'd want to have your own company.

I just feel like even the best, the biggest, like, everybody's clothing lines flop.

Like, it's literally impossible to do.

And I feel like she was making really smart moves up until, I don't know if you saw, she became like an investor in ShopMy.

Yeah, I saw.

Which is like one of the affiliate programs that Megan Markle's actually using.

It's like a lot of influencers use it.

You can shop, you know, your favorite celebrities' closets.

It's a

Parchy company and they're really up and coming.

And so I thought Sophia Richie Grange being on board for that, like made total sense.

I don't know why.

I just feel like I cannot think of even the coolest, best gals, everybody launches their own things.

And like they all fizzle.

They all like are, it's really hard to like set a price point that people like,

be size inclusive enough for the internet to like.

to have makeup styles that people honestly you know who's doing it well hmm i'll be mentioning her twice on this podcast dairy boy actually placed an order order this morning because I thought it was Pargy.

It's so pargy.

It's so pargy, but I feel like she started really small.

Yep.

Built it up, built it up.

I can't think of a lot of examples where people crush it.

It's even, and it's not about the person because the coolest, most stylish, pargiest girls can't crack it.

Yeah, I agree with that.

However, I think one

person who is like an exception to the rule, but also is kind of proving the rule is Molly Mae.

She like, I feel like Sophia's clothing line will be like akin to Molly's in terms of like style.

It's like very like okay, let's can we keep it national though because I feel like UK is different.

But like literally everything I wear is maybe.

I love maybe.

I think it's an amazing brand.

I love the clothes.

It's like like Molly's style.

She wears it in everything.

It's not even like she's trying to promote it.

It's like what she wants to wear.

However, when I watch her docuseries, like it looks like.

Fucking torture.

I feel like she regrets ever starting it.

I think that happens a lot too.

People, even if it's like successful, you don't make enough money.

Yeah, no.

You don't make enough money.

Like like the margins thing the coats came out and they were like shitty quality and then everybody clowns on her on the internet of course and i don't even know if she had to like issue returns or she had to like cancel the rest of them it was like millions of dollars and it's like a nightmare so even though i'm having fun here in my silk pants yesterday were from maybe and literally i'm always wearing maybe

i i don't know how it's going for molly i don't know No, I think it's unenjoyable.

And yes, Sophia Richie is set up nicely where it's like she has built in wealth, fame, where it's like all the things that maybe a small business wouldn't have to deal with.

She probably doesn't have to.

She probably is like huge investors.

Like it's fine.

But I don't know.

Like think of like something maybe

had huge investors.

I'm not saying this in a negative way, but like her clothing line did not succeed.

And like she's perfect for it, right?

She's perfect for it.

People buy everything

she wears.

She's influential fashion girly on the planet.

Everything she wears.

She sells out high price, low price.

She can sell anything.

So I don't know.

I feel like if I'm Sophia Richie, I'm not wasting my time with this like fruitless endeavor because even the ones that are successful, like you don't even make so much money like with fast fashion, like and everybody just clowns on you.

Like, are you ethically sourced?

Are you size inclusive?

Like, fuck off.

I can't be everything.

Yeah.

And there's so much.

I would never.

Not to mention like the original thing that you're setting out to do is to create something that doesn't already exist.

There is so much out there.

And not to make everything about us, but like on a very small scale, like we do merch, which is just merch, by the way.

And it is so hard.

We get so, your shipping is not good enough.

Your size inclusive is not big enough.

It's not sustainable enough.

Like, okay, like, please, I don't know what you want.

I'm not woke like the rest of you.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I'm curious to see what you mentioned.

I can see myself really liking it.

I just don't know why someone would do this to themselves when they don't have to.

Although I do think

what you just said.

When they don't have to.

I do think, though, that the comparison to maybe is a good one.

Yeah, but I would love to know how Molly's feeling about maybe.

Like it seriously seems to be the bane of her existence.

But then she's also like opening new offices.

She was just posting like new, like in this huge office space.

So they're obviously like making money.

Yeah, I think it's a one in a million type of thing.

I really, I can think of way more unsuccessful ones, and I don't want to be mean and say them.

And I'm not saying it in a mean way.

It doesn't mean that you're a failure.

I think it's like an impossible industry.

I think a really good example was back in the day because she was just talking about this recently, Whitney Port.

When she was on the Hills, she was like the fashion, like the best style on the show, like just so elevated.

And she was on a podcast saying like all the money that she made from the Hills, which was a lot of money, she put it it all into her clothing line and

zero oh and I remember what she had stores she had a line like it was successful and it still isn't it can't it's not a success because it's impossible okay yeah like okay now I'm thinking I'm trying to think of other examples because one that's really successful is the bar Bridget yes but even that she shares all the time it's rife with issues like it's the hardest business to be in and I feel like she's one of the very very rare ones who did it successfully yes also Morgan Stewart stewart is having success right now readily yes that's a good one that's a good one but she said she's she's similar to uh

sophia ritchie in terms of i feel like she had like part g investors set it up really nicely like she can start from scratch yeah hopefully it's like worked out well on the back end it's also like still relatively young

but um

It's really hard.

It's not a business I would really ever, ever want to be in.

Yeah, I agree.

Unless you do it also like with a big partner, which it doesn't sound like SRG or Atelier is with a big partner, but like, you know, Lauren Conrad for Kohl's, beautiful.

Even then everybody's like, you're wasteful.

Like these corporations are evil.

Like you can't fucking win.

You know what I hear?

Cha-ching.

No, I think.

Kohles, we are available.

I think doing it with like a big partner like that, like it's, they have it all, they figured it out already.

And then you let it go.

And then you get into the Jessica Simpson debacle where you don't own your name.

Like it's literally, it's impossible.

But I think Jessica Simpson is happy with how things have shaped.

Of course, but she had to buy back her own brand from one of those big box stores.

And same with Martha Stewart.

Yes, it's like hundreds of millions of dollars.

Yeah.

So I'm just happy to be a podcaster, you know?

Yeah.

And I look forward to seeing what she drops because I feel as though I would like it and I would clothe my body in it.

You would too.

I think I would clothe my body in it because she is a modest woman.

Yeah.

And I hope, and just like with her wedding, that inspired other girls to just like be modest in class.

Dress nicely.

I i hope that this like has the same effect right like a wave of just like everybody covering themselves high necklines in a normal way not like

not like you know extremist like you know covered to the but just you know like put your titties away at work or something yeah it's it's a lovely look it is yeah let's get those let's do those the

choo cheese up the check when you're in hemline the yardstick

Oh, my God.

I love that.

She should call her label yardstick.

And everything will pass the test.

That's kind of a nice name for like a somewhat sophisticated, modest line.

Free idea.

Make it and I'll buy it.

I'm not going to do it.

Because as we just discussed, it's impossible.

It's impossible.

Things I will never be, a clothing designer.

You never know.

Talk to me.

I actually think we would be a great idea.

I'm going to be the head of Chanel.

We would crush it.

Yeah, we would crush it.

Was that the fifth?

That was the fifth and final.

And any TV you want to recap?

I watched the second to last episode of The Summer I Turn Pretty, and I just want to say I'm hating every minute of the show.

I wish all the characters on the show would just like never see each other again so I didn't have to watch them.

And in the books, I remember, like, you're supposed to dislike certain people, but at the end, it's like all about spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.

It's all just like OTP, Conrad, and Bally.

And even now, I'm like, please, you two are miserable.

I don't want you to be together.

You're both ugly and stupid.

I hate them all.

Hating everyone.

Everyone is dumb except Taylor.

Taylor.

What about Steven?

He's fine.

He's fine.

Shayla.

She hasn't been seen in two years.

I think the acting is also getting worse.

It's just, it's bad.

Yeah, that's like the big reveal in the finale.

It's Shayla.

Then I'll watch.

But I'm boycotting with Shayla.

Like, I stand with her.

Oh, so you haven't watched since she left?

No, she was my favorite character, her and Steven.

and then she just like didn't get asked back for season two.

Like, I'm not, like, I'm gonna put my money where my mouth is.

I'm not watching this crap anymore.

What are you watching?

Well, I've been watching Real House Has in Miami.

Um, oh, right.

Really making a lot of progress.

Like, we're in Seville.

The girls are fighting.

Stephanie is tough.

Like, she's tough because, like, I want to like her.

I watched the first few episodes with Stephanie, and she just came off like unlikable.

I've like on paper.

She has all the makings of a great housewife.

She is so wealthy.

She has a plane that she can actually use and like take people on.

That's everyone.

A lot of husbands, a lot of girls have like a plane that's like their husbands or the husband's companies, but like they can't be going on girls' trips with it.

Right.

But no, she really like, she flew herself and like three of the girls to Seville.

Which girls?

Okay, so she chose Larsa, of course.

And then Julia, because it was Julia's trip.

And I think she likes Julia because her husband loves Martina.

Got it.

I feel like Julia gets like a lot of extra like special treatment from just random things in her life because people love Martina.

because like they went on a double date Martina and Julia and Stephanie and Masoud and he's like not really given like that much to the show but like he's like talking to Martina the girls go off to talk and like Martina Masood he's like your arms at Wimbledon were incredible and they showed a picture and they really they really were they were like so when she won

they were so taut like and he remembers that from like 30 years ago

I'm just looking up these photos.

Oh my God, I literally don't recognize her.

Oh yeah, her arms.

Her arms.

So I think that Stephanie, I honestly, I could see a world where like Masoud and Stephanie decided to join the show because that's how big of a family

because she was fighting with Alexia in one episode and because and Alexia like dropped something like, well, your life isn't so perfect or you wouldn't be in the shit show, which meaning like, why would you come up?

Like your life is so perfect.

And it does look so perfect and successful.

It's actually so your marriage looks amazing and it really does.

So why would you go on Housewives?

Like, right.

So, but I honestly, now I think it's to meet Martina.

I wasn't loving Stephanie.

I liked that.

She had amazing style.

And when you have so much money, like you can buy everything at Chanel, like it's easy to have good style, but you can tell like she really has an eye for it.

Yes.

And yeah, the plane, like it's exactly what I want from a housewife, but I don't know.

Something's like not connecting for me.

Yeah.

No, on paper, like everything is good.

And I really like her outfits too.

And I like that she's a strong personality.

But some of the things that she says are like the hard lines that she draws, I just like don't completely agree with.

So she invited Julia on the the plane and then she had one more seat and she invited well I and I don't understand why she could only have like four passes.

It's a big

plane.

Yeah, so she invited Marisol because she's getting along really well with Marisol.

She's not been getting she keeps like fighting with Alexia they like can't see each other even though they would both like get along in there like Mark Larsa Marisol Stephanie Alexia are all in like a little friend group but they keep butting heads.

Anyways, she invites Marisol.

Marisol's like I'm not leaving Alexia to fly commercial.

This is also like a trip for her even though I don't understand how it is, but okay.

And so Stephanie was like, okay.

And so Stephanie invited Alexia to fly with them.

And Alexia was like, I'm not leaving Marisol.

I'm like, oh, right.

Why couldn't you bring the two of them?

I don't understand.

I thought you were going to say Alexia said yes.

I'm like, oh my God, that's so mean.

Marisol said no to move.

She would like never.

I thought she was asking Alexia to be like, I'm going to bring on a fifth person, but she literally could not bring a fifth person on the plane.

I don't understand.

I don't understand that either.

Then when they're in Seville, they're going to.

Oh, maybe, by the way, because did they film on the plane?

They did, maybe because of production.

Crew members.

Yeah.

Maybe.

I thought that too, but like, I'm sorry.

Someone could sit on the toilet seat for takeoff.

It's not a big deal.

Then when they're in Seville, they're going to Marbea for the day to see Julia's friend, which is a 22-minute flight.

So Stephanie is keeping her plane in Seville to fly everyone to Marbea.

Oh, she's rich.

For the day and back.

But Claudia, the way she is holding it over everyone's head is so insane.

I feel like I'm missing something because she's like, the girl, they, at every meal, they're all fighting.

Larsa and Lisa it's so bad.

Then Kiki and Adriana start fighting like everything is just getting crazy and she's like flipping out she's like I can't have you all on my plane if you're gonna act like this like I'm like what do you mean what do you think they're gonna do no in a situation like that like book me it's a 22 minute flight off like she's like can everyone behave for 20 I don't think there is commercial flights like I don't even I don't I think it's

miss the day trip to Marbella so she was like

If people can't behave for the 22 minute flight, like I'm not bringing you back.

Like,

she had like, I'm like, what, what is the plane going to do?

Like, fall out of the sky if the girls are screaming?

Like, I don't understand.

Like, distract the, like, I don't see what the real issue is.

Like, but she keeps talking about it.

She's so nervous about it.

And then the morning of Marcel and Alexia are like, we're not coming.

Marisol and Alexia.

They're like, oh, I'm with that.

Like, because she was like saying, you know, you have to take your shoes off.

She had like a memo.

And she said, she doesn't like poop.

I don't think she wanted anyone to poop on her plane.

Like, and they were like, she's just too.

bossy like we don't we're not going the day wound up like being really amazing in marbea and it all worked out on the plane and everyone got along and everyone's like dancing and having did Alexia and Marisol go?

No.

And now like Stephanie is like so offended that they didn't go.

But like don't invite people on your show that are going to act like that.

Like don't hold it.

And like it was just, it was so nasty.

No, indeed.

Like yeah.

So

I'm I'm okay with Stephanie because she's like friends with Larsa and I

think she has a plane.

She adds value, but I'm not like entirely like

riding for her.

Riding for her.

And sometimes when she fights with Alexia, I'm like, you're right or you're right.

But But now, like, I don't know what's going to happen with Marisol.

She's always been good friends with Marisol, and now Marisol has, like, not gone on the plane.

And she's so offended.

She kind of sends Miz, honestly.

Yeah.

But, like,

it's good entertainment.

She adds value to a show.

She's going to be like arguing with someone at every meal.

Love that for her.

And then also moving on.

Right.

On her plane.

Yeah, but like moving on is an important part of being a housewife.

Like every episode, there are new people fighting.

It's true.

While Larsa and Lisa remain the same.

But it's very fresh.

And that's why it's a really good season.

But then they all have this fight at this restaurant.

And something must have happened because all of a sudden they all start getting up.

They're like, this is the most embarrassing thing I've ever been a part of.

They all go back.

Stephanie goes back to the hotel like crying.

She can't believe that people would act this way.

And I feel like we missed something

because

they talk like that at every meal.

All the time.

Yeah.

And then all of a sudden it was like a switch flipped and people like Larsa.

Marisol, Alexia, and Stephanie all left the restaurant.

They were like, we will not be a part of that.

That was humiliating.

I'm like, oh, I wonder.

well, what, why?

Manish channel, Haze.

Why is this different

from all others?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Someone let me know if you know some

inside baseball

tomorrow's Friday, which just feels like it's almost too soon.

It's like Friday.

Yay.

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