I Love Your Family, Brooks: Thursday, September 18th, 2025

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It's the toast.

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Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.

Not to be an ungrateful wench.

It should should be Friday.

Hello to my co-host slash outfit stealer slash like single white female Jacqueline Folet.

Oh my God, twin, we keep doing this.

I like to think of it because like we're like-minded swirlies and we are just so simpatico.

But sure, make it nasty.

Make it nasty.

That way.

If you're twinning, like such cuties.

If you're tuning in as an audio-only podcast, first of all, thank you for joining.

Joining us.

We're so happy to have you here.

You might not notice, Jackie and I are wearing the same exact outfit, like different brands, but it's just like a gray sweatsuit it's yours like cashmere

so let's talk about the fact that my outfit's more expensive than yours i feel like you want to hide that from people i know because also i really am so relatable and i'm gonna be completely honest like i did not pay for my outfit it was gifted which is why it's more expensive but like actually both of our outfits are from toe sponsors.

Jackie's suit is from Loft.

Yes.

Mine is from Roller Rabbit.

Yeah, a little French brand, Roller Rabbit.

It's French.

No.

When I say it like that, it is Rola Rabbit.

It's just Roller Rabbit.

Anything can be French.

Just ask Belly.

Oh, I did not watch a Summer I Turn Pretty finale.

It aired last night.

Please don't tell me what happened.

We have Summer I Turn Pretty story, so we could talk about you.

We do.

They made major news last night.

Well, I didn't watch the episode, so.

It's not about the episode.

No, no, I just, can you, can you just save it for tomorrow?

It's about the format.

No, no.

Can you please just save it for tomorrow?

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

Anyways, yes, mine is the less expensive version, which is just like

slay.

Yeah, you just wouldn't expect that one of us would be wearing like a French brand and the other would be wearing something.

It's like French.

Role rabbit?

Like my outfit's expensive, bitch.

Like,

well, I think we both look cute.

I think we both look gorgeous.

And it just like goes to show like this was the vibe for like confirmed.

When I was putting this on, I was like, oh, is it like cashmere set time?

And confirmed, it is.

Oh, my God.

We're so gray.

We are.

and it's thursday you know this was all we wanted yesterday like we have to be happy with what we have i know i know i know it's fine news

it's it's fine news it's the latter half of the week it's not the latter half of the latter half but i'll take what i can get yeah but then friday you know it's just a whole other bag thursday is a great day Thursday's a great day.

You know, it's good.

We're together virtually, but still together, you know, in spirit.

That's always good.

You know, we have to find the positive in life.

I'm fine.

I found it.

Like I woke up, I'm like, Thursberry's, let's get this bread.

I started a loaf.

How's Ben's loaves going?

Is he making a loaf like every day?

So he's made two loaves.

Oh.

And we've eaten them like in to completion, you know?

And he's just like not understanding that like now that I've had loaf, like I need to have loaf every day.

So when he gets up, like I get up and I feed Ruby and he should be getting up and feeding his starter.

And like he's not in that cycle yet.

It was like a fun thing for him.

him i feel like i could see him getting off of it you know no i thought he was making bread every day which is what he should be doing because practice makes perfect like you're only gonna get better you have to troubleshoot keep feeding the starter like you'll learn more and more every day and the good news is you are eating all that bread so it's not like it's wasteful no he should be making a loaf a day I know.

I feel like, you know, a 1950s husband, get back in the kitchen.

Yeah, make me a sandwich.

Literally make me a sandwich.

Yeah.

That's surprising.

Only two loaves.

I know.

I'll reach out to him and I'll let him know.

He's got his star.

I know.

And he said this morning he fed the starter, but I just like,

they're not happening in an organized fashion.

It's not a milestone.

Yeah.

Like, I think he was saying, like, it's on its way.

You'll get it later tonight.

Great.

I did have a fabulous night, though.

I went to Polo Bar.

Yeah, the hot spot I mentioned.

And you know what?

Like, I was having such a nice time.

That was your anniversary dinner.

Oh, it didn't click for me.

You kept saying, like, you were going out.

And I'm like, where are you going?

And you said polo bar, but I didn't realize your anniversary dinner.

Yes.

Yeah.

And like, I was just, you know, it's such a hot spot.

It's like a fabulous restaurant because it's like delicious food.

But it's also a really good restaurant.

I actually wouldn't, it is a hot spot, but like that's when you said hot spot, I thought you would mean like, you know, tran vicente or the French corner or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Corner base chair, corner, corner table, whatever.

Part of the fun is like people watching, right?

Like your head is on a swivel because I've seen the craziest people there.

But, you know, they gave us a really nice little corner booth.

Me and Ben.

It was so intimate because they knew we were celebrating our anniversary.

And like Ben gave me me a gift.

And we met with us.

And I hadn't caught up.

I hadn't seen Ben all day.

Something I'm returning.

I hadn't seen Ben all day.

And so, like, I didn't really get a chance to swivel my head.

And I didn't see any celebrities, which is like so rare.

And it's fashion week, month.

Yeah.

I

year.

I was like mad at myself when I left.

I'm like, wait, I didn't see anyone, but that doesn't mean nobody was there, you know?

I think you would have seen them.

Maybe

I was there.

We were tucked away.

Oh, maybe you were the celebrity everyone was looking at.

I just want to say there was like probably eight toasters at Polo Bar.

Like,

maybe it was an off-night, but I was definitely the most famous person there, which is not a good look.

Also, good Polo Bar.

But that's good.

Big fish, small pond, you know?

Yeah, well, that's very sweet.

Happy anniversary to you too.

Thank you so much.

I love your love, Lishes.

I love your parents, Ruby.

Somebody commented that on my TikTok.

It was so sweet.

so sweet.

Like, seriously, too cute.

Too cute.

I actually went into my Dropbox and watched a bunch of my wedding footage.

And first of all, you were so cute at my wedding.

Like, we talk a lot about how I looked at my wedding,

but we don't talk about how you looked because you were in your Bob era.

And you know, I live for your Bob era.

Even though, like, the most churning thing ever, when you came and told the family, you're like, I'm thinking of getting a Bob.

I was like, well, I wish you well.

Goodbye.

And I loved it so much.

Like, you need to get back into your Bob era.

I will.

When I'm at a point in my life where my weight isn't changing by the minute, I will get a Bob, but I don't have that sort of stability right now and I need hair.

You were just like cuter, like cute as a button at my wedding with your little Bob.

Oh, my God.

Thank you so much.

My little David's Bridal bridesmaid dress.

I also want to say.

I slayed the house down with those.

It was actually Vera Wang for David's Bridal and it was sponsored.

No, it was sponsored.

No, no, no.

Like, I loved our dresses.

My bridesmaids looked amazing.

It was Vera Wang for David's Bridal.

I didn't realize the Vera Wang connection.

I just saw it was David's bridal.

I remember being like so happy with how we all looked.

I thought you all looked great.

Yeah.

No, no.

Yeah.

That was, that was earnest.

A fun fact about me, something I feel really good about is...

At so far, two of my sisters' weddings, I actually really liked the way that I looked.

Like, because my weight, like, my looks have fluctuated so much over the years.

There are time periods where I'll look at a picture.

I'm like, truly fucking hate it.

But I look back on pictures from your wedding, pictures from Olivia's wedding really fondly.

I think I loved my dresses.

I looked so cute.

I'm like a normal weight.

I'm not like super skinny.

I'm not super fat.

Like I'm just normal girl.

And it's giving normie and I love it.

And we got married two months apart.

So like you were the same person for both.

Okay, don't be rude.

Like it wasn't like two different journeys.

No, I had two, I had two beautiful eras.

Yeah.

Yeah, you did.

I agree.

No, we kind of crush it.

We're just like, where the Nader sisters were so gorgeous.

Oh, Brooks Nader was on Whatstrap inside.

And again, first of all, it was perfect.

Myozen Pic King and Myozempic Queen, Andy and Brooks.

And then Mark Ronson was there.

Like, okay, it should have been a one-on-one.

It was all everything I've seen so far was Brooks this, Brooks, that's the best is Brooks.

I have a story about it.

If you want to table

your opinions, but I did watch last night what I said I was going to watch and something that really brought my husband and I together, which is the Cowboys documentary, America's Team.

The game

on Netflix, and I almost watched it.

How was it?

You finish it?

No, I think we're in the middle of the third episode.

I don't know how many there are, but like we're in the 90s.

so i think we have some time oh my um it's very dense though i feel like dedicated to it one because i want to have an understanding of the cowboys why they're america's team like i really want to do you feel like you get it yet um yes and what i what i'll say is they were coined america's team in the 70s they were like larger than life you know

so americana so winning blah blah blah it's not like the term america's team is like up for grabs in every few they made it up right so like that's their thing if someone else wants to like go and call themselves america's team it's like get your own tagline yeah okay that's fair that's how i feel about it now where it's not like in the 70s we voted that they're gonna be america's team and now we have to we should really reassess it's like no that they claimed that let them have it whether or not they're the best team at all times

also

Not to make everything about me, but you talking about your Netflix documentary.

There was one thing I totally forgot to tell you about the Charlie Sheen documentary that to me, I don't know if anybody else picked up on this, but it was the most interesting part.

At one point, Charlie like overdoses or something happens where he goes to the hospital.

And they have the 911 call of the person who called it in.

And it's Dr.

Paul Nassif.

He said, hey, my buddy Charlie Sheen just called me.

He didn't sound well.

Like, can you send an ambulance to his house?

Yeah.

Not Paul Nassif saving Charlie Sheen's life.

Literally all roads lead back to Bravo.

That's crazy.

Good for him.

That's a good doctor.

I know.

I feel like he's not getting enough credit for his life-saving work.

Speaking of doctor, I went to the doctor yesterday.

No one commented on my weight loss.

I heard you got a fist full of fists.

I got a fist full of doctor.

I had a pelvic exam, like literally up to his elbow.

You got fisted.

Oh my God.

Oh, and so sorry.

There's really nothing to say except I'm sorry that that happened.

It was wild.

It was wild.

That's what I did yesterday.

It's literally insane what we have to deal with.

You know?

It's insane.

I just want to say.

While you were getting a fist full of doctor, I had the most amazing rap for lunch yesterday.

Like, it was just a good rap.

Oh, yum.

Oh, my God.

I wanted to tell you something, and I need to get your take on it because I stopped in for a coffee shop for a light bite.

Of course, I got a salad.

Can't help myself.

From a coffee shop?

They have like food.

They have a menu.

Okay.

And the guy at the coffee shop, he said, you look like one of those new dolls, like a laboo boo.

I think that's a compliment.

Laboo's are like so little cutesy.

You look like a labooboo, but pregnant.

And I was like, thanks, I think.

So obviously this person is Autistic.

So let's just

acknowledge that.

Cause like no one with like normal social like

boundaries would say something like that.

Now let's dissect the compliment.

I do think it's a compliment.

Like when I hear like anything associated like doll, I'm like, oh thanks team.

Unless it's like the Chucky doll.

Right, but there are some laboobus.

Like some are really cute and some are like demonic looking.

I think that's their thing.

So oh, really?

Yeah, I've seen one that's that like look like regularly scary.

Can I ask you a question?

What were you wearing?

What I wore on the toast yesterday.

My, um, I was wearing pants like this, actually, gray cashmere, not the same ones.

I did change my pants.

A t-shirt and the green sweater and like my hair in a bun.

I'm just looking up a picture of a laboo boo.

I'm not like 100% seeing the resemblance, but it's not an insult.

I did take it as one, but it was just funny to me.

It's a crazy thing to say.

Like, normalize keeping things to yourself.

But he chose the right girl because, like, I'm not easily offended.

Water off a duck's back.

I'm like, where's my salad?

Yeah, would a libibo eat a salad?

I did also get

a piece of toast, but it wasn't so good.

Oh, wow.

She's crazy.

I thought you were going to say, like, I also did get a chocolate croissant.

It was like a crazy piece of toast.

It was like honey and nuts and cheese on it.

Honey and nuts and cheese.

Oh my.

Yeah, but it was just too much for me.

I had to stick with my salad.

Much too good for children.

Oh yeah.

Where's that from?

Matilda.

Yeah, I know.

I'm just going off of our thing from yesterday.

I like accountability for our references.

We are acknowledging and sourcing our references.

Yeah.

I like that.

And it also is much too good for children.

It's good for me in the way, like, you know, in the files of my brain.

Where do I file it away?

I'm sure you saw everybody screaming at you in the comments yesterday that you actually can vote 10 times per couple on Dancing with the Stars.

I just wanted to spread that information.

Message received.

I saw it, but, and I know people are like, no, like you could vote for every couple 10 times.

Then what's the point of voting?

If you can vote.

So not only that, if you can

get everyone

and you can vote for each couple 10 times, fine, but you shouldn't be allowed to, like.

They just want thousands of votes.

I think they just get money every time you send a text.

Because what's the dip?

Why would you be able to vote for the same couple 10 times?

Wouldn't that have the same value if everybody's just voting once?

It's preposterous.

And the fact that then you could vote for each couple 10 times and so you could vote for every single couple.

They just want volumes of text messages.

That's not a good voting system.

It's definitely like a scam, 100%.

And I think they can say, well, we've got 30 million votes.

Well, you actually got 3 million votes, but everybody did it 10 times.

So like, that's, it's silly.

I agree.

But I do think my one vote for Whitney and my one vote for Alex really move the needle.

I do think, I kind of liked your, like, you have 10 votes to give away.

It's kind kind of like the last round of quiplash.

You have 10 votes to give away.

Give them as you please.

And I also thought that was so much to even have 10 votes.

And there's not even a lot.

There's not even a lot of time to vote.

It's too much.

Like, honestly, make it less.

You should get three to five votes.

Also, when we were discussing Dancing with the Stars yesterday, talking about how, yeah, we underratedly went to Dancing with the Stars to see our friend, Lauren Elena.

Do you know who Lauren Elena's partner was?

Gleb.

Gleb's have Chenko.

And I'm sorry, Lauren, that you had to deal with that.

Oh, wow.

Wow.

Wow.

You really are disgusting.

What's that from?

I'm not sure either, but it's like kind of like an old family one.

Wow.

You really are disgusting.

Yeah, it's like.

Someone like says.

It's not borad.

It's not a

lips are sealed.

Oh, wait.

Wow.

You really are disgusting.

Is it our lips are sealed?

The Yaragli guy?

Oh.

Is it White Chicks?

Oh.

Yeah, maybe.

Classic moment in white chicks.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

When the two FBI

agents like bust into their room and find the underwear, and one of them catches the other one sniffing, and he's like, wow, you really are disgusting.

He's right for that.

Oh, my God.

Funny.

Yeah.

How are the stories today?

Good.

Well, now I have to swap out one of them.

But there's a lot of people who are going to do that.

Are we talking about

The Shake Up and Late Night?

Of course we are.

That's the lead story.

Everyone's talking about it.

I have huge thoughts.

I cannot wait to share them with you.

Oh, my God.

I'm excited to hear.

I have thoughts too.

I feel like everybody's talking about it.

No, everyone is talking about it, like for better or for worse.

It's really.

It's kind of like Jimmy Campbell's big moment.

It's really captured the attention.

Should we dive in?

I don't really have anything else to say.

Yeah, let's get right into it.

We've got lots to do.

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Okay, so our first story, Jimmy Kimmel live has been pulled from ABC in the wake of comments that he made about Charlie Kirk's death on air.

So first yesterday, the syndicate network for Jimmy Kimmel's show on ABC announced that they would no longer be airing his show to their network due to what he said.

And the syndicate network is like basically responsible for getting stuff.

that ABC makes like onto the TBs of like all stations.

Like local stations, yes.

Right.

It's called Nexstar.

They said that it's owned and partnered television stations affiliated with the ABC television network will preempt Jimmy Kimmel live for this foreseeable future beginning with tonight's show.

They keep using this word preempt.

I think it just means like not air, post something else.

The statement added that the company strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr.

Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in its ABC affiliated markets.

They said Mr.

Kimmel's statements, comments about the death of Mr.

Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse and we do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located.

Continuing to give him a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time and we've made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful constructive dialogue then after this was announced so like his show's not going to be airing to like i don't know how many foreseeable future like how many of the networks and stations and people that he typically airs then disney made the decision to pull the show entirely now right because if it wasn't going to get played then yeah like that's terrible for advertisers like at a certain point this is a business correct so business that math ain't math in when he's not able to be played on a lot of televisions and there are a lot of big conversations being had around this like what does it mean for the future of broadcasting what does it mean for the future of free speech and personally like conversations I've been having is like what does this mean for the future of love thy neighbor um because strangely enough Jimmy Kimmel is a producer on the greatest show ever made um and I don't want my girls getting dragged into this mess like this is a political it's a hotbed of moral turpentine as Edna Turnblad would say and they're on the rise and i don't want jimmy bringing them down because like this is so divisive like i can't even open my phone everybody's just like giving their takes conspiracy theories on what they think is going on and like i'm worried about the nader girls yeah i hope that by now like their show is flourishing i'm glad that like you know we've all had the opportunity to watch the show i like whether or not he gets fired as executive producer or if he doesn't have the poll that he once had like i think the show will be the show so i'm just gonna like stay hopeful that you know

They've got this.

Yeah.

I don't really see how he like, aside from getting them the show, like, I don't see how he's doing it.

Like, i don't understand his involvement to begin with anymore he had her on so at least she got her appearance in yeah yeah she's right before this um but people are you know up in arms saying like free speech violations this is cancel culture to me the way that i see it it's like you did a bad job at your job last week.

And so you got like the way that he spoke about what happened.

And I think he would have been better off not saying anything at all.

I don't think anyone would have then like nip picked what he said if there was nothing to say.

But what happened to Charlie Kirk has really shaken so many people.

Like people are so heartbroken, whether they loved him or just knew him at a distance.

Or even if you didn't like him, I think it shook a lot of people at like the state of our current affairs.

It's a very shocking thing.

A man was shot dead in cold blood in front of his wife and children and thousands of people.

For practicing free speech is a horrible thing.

And that's how most people feel.

Yes, of course there are people celebrating.

I'm not talking about the crazies.

And I'm not even saying that everybody who's heartbroken over this or shooken up by it was like the biggest fan of his, but it's extremely disturbing.

So if you go on your show and you want to talk about it, and the first thing that you do is make jokes.

And also the issue is that what he said was factually inaccurate.

It was a lie.

Yeah.

He said that the shooter was MAGA.

And so like he's also, you're technically like a news comedy broadcast source.

And so you're also spreading misinformation.

But I think also the tone of how he talked about it was so incentive.

So dismissive.

To so many people.

And it's like, you did, and your job is to court viewers.

Like, I feel like we have gotten to a place where everyone's so like siloed that they don't, they're fine pissing off half the country.

Like, and

when at a certain point, like, this is a business, like you're trying to court viewers, you're trying to get advertisers, you're trying to, and if nobody wants to watch your show, that you did a bad job at your job and you get fired for doing a bad job.

Yeah, so before this became a big story, the clip was like making the rounds of what he had said.

And I saw it yesterday morning and like I was really shocked.

Like it was just so dismissive and so cold for something that was really, I think everyone can agree, like a really tragic event.

So just on like a human level.

Heartless.

For the man who cried overseas.

I was thinking the same thing.

Couldn't muster up a feeling about a young man who's shot dead in the prime of his life just trying to have political discourse with people who disagreed with him.

And I think like the bigger thing that's not being said was like he straight up lied.

And I read in the Hollywood Reporters like sources close to the situation said like before he knew his show was getting pulled off of air and there was like backlash to what he said, he was planning on going on air and not apologizing and doubling down.

I don't know if that's true, but that's just what I read.

And I do feel like it's really like that's the type of

Like that's just not what we need right now as a country.

First of all, like spreading like lies that's like factually not what happened.

But also like we really need much more of like a kumbaya moment, not more of this like divisive language.

And Jimmy Kimmel is guilty of that.

I know nobody's having a better day than Aaron Rodgers right now.

And so like the thing is, you're not going to catch me being upset.

Like I think Jimmy Kimmel's like outside of this issue.

Like his show should be canceled.

He's not funny.

No one's like the same thing.

His show should be canceled.

Nobody watches it.

The ratings are bad.

The late night format isn't what it was.

But I don't know how long you can like keep doing a show that's like tanking.

And I don't know why advertisers don't care.

but that's like kind of what goes on.

At a certain point, the chickens come home to roost.

But like now,

the syndicate network, like not going to air your show, like dollars and cents-wise, you have no show.

Yeah.

And they represent like their viewers who don't want to hear from a man that would speak like that when something so terrible has just happened.

Now, it's also worth mentioning there are lots of like theories going around that the show was canceled having something to do with like Trump and the FCC.

I see other people saying like like this show was going to get canceled anyway because it's not like financially successful.

So this is his way of like being, you know, fired as a hero as opposed to like, you know, the show.

Like people are saying all different things.

I don't know if it's like that deep.

I just think it was like a like a fucked up thing to say.

Honestly, I don't,

I've seen like those.

both of those things and I don't agree think that that either of them is what happened here.

I mean, he clowns on Trump like every single day on his show for the last eight years, like still had a show.

So I don't think it's sad.

And I also don't think that he was going to be canceled anyway.

I just think this Charlie Kirk thing has really

shaken so many people who usually just like remain quiet and like go about their lives.

And like people have drawn the line here that like we're not going to be a country that speaks to

and we're certainly not going to like platform people who can't muster up a feeling of compassion for someone who just went through this.

Like,

I think, I think that

they've just had enough.

Now, of course, it pains me not to make everything about myself but i do see that there is a slot open for a nude late night personality maybe two um so i just want to introduce myself i am turdy lou freebush ashre soffer um i have a strong background in stand-up comedy i sing so i can always like kind of like the jimmy fallon james cordon thing

did you ever know that you're my hero i do impressions not a lot but i have been known to like slay the house down boots on a shakira impression uh do you want to hear hear it?

And no, I've heard that.

Is there another one?

Oh, yeah.

I'm Jackie O.

I've heard that.

Is there another one?

Bitch.

Yeah, I do other impressions.

No, I do.

Just like, give me a celebrity.

Give me a celebrity.

I'll impersonate them.

Sorry.

Licking a donut.

And

give me another one.

Slay.

Tailored.

Oh, Taylore.

Actually, I was just having this conversation with somebody.

Taylor's like my favorite singer ever.

Her music is my favorite.

I actually cannot sing her music.

Like, her and I just have like different registers and just like vibes.

Like, I don't think I could like sing a song of her as well.

Having said that, if I did get the Jimmy Kimmel slot, I would figure it out.

Like, we would work something out.

You could put it in a different key.

It's just more like the tenor.

It's not even so much the key.

It's just like we don't

have two.

She does low-key have like a very high and also a very low voice.

Yeah.

I don't know what what's next.

I mean, I also feel like he's going to come back.

Am I the only one who thinks, like, I just feel like this is a suspension?

It could be like a slap on the wrist.

Because also the

ABC station, some of them had said, like, if he apologizes and donates to Turning Point, that they would re-air his show.

Well, I don't think we're ever going to get him to donate to Turning Point.

Right.

I'm always open to an apology if like, but just like you said, and they had reported, I don't know why the Hollywood reporter would say this if it wasn't true, because I feel like they're friendly towards him.

In the know, but that he planned on coming on the show and like explaining further his comments, but not apologizing.

So I don't think that he like really feels bad about what he said.

But if he does now and like wants to apologize, like I'm all ears.

Yeah, except for the fact that I feel like we've been having this conversation a lot.

Like, you know, what is late night's place in new media with streaming services, cable on the decline, and like Gen Z really not giving a fuck about the Jimmies Jimmys and the late night guys.

It's just sort of this like really old, outdated format that I feel like has been slowly, you know, ending.

I feel like after Jay Leno and it's like,

what's Colbert is not on the air anymore and James Corden stepped back and it's like, it's slowly coming.

It's not all going to happen at once, but it's slowly just going to become a kind of like a dead format.

And I feel like maybe this is just one step in that, no?

Yeah, I do, but then it's like, that is prime time.

What are people doing if not watching that?

I guess just like scrolling on their phones?

And are they not?

Are they not watching because like logistically people don't want to watch television at that time?

I don't think

they don't have cable.

But it's not like all of cable.

I mean, all of cable is suffering in some way, but like late night specifically.

No, it's really like in partnership with like the decline of cable.

But what like how do you explain Kelly Clarkson?

Well, she's just she's daytime for

anomaly.

But that's cable.

Yeah, well, she, by the way, that's why they're so obsessed with her.

She is an anomaly.

Like, that's why the network.

Did you see she has a new show on NBC, Songs and Stories?

It's basically like they saw the success of Kelly Okee and how, like, she's taken the internet by storm by, like, stealing people's songs when she covers them.

So now she's sitting down with artists talking about a specific song and then singing it together.

So I just saw, she did the Jonas Brothers when you look me in the eyes.

Oh, my God.

I have to see.

It's the most genius.

Like they

like

NBC, like one of the biggest cable networks, have found a modicum of success with one person and they are putting the entire network on her back.

She hosts the Christmas special, the tree lighting.

She literally does everything.

She's so busy, but everyone loves her.

Yeah.

No, she's a safe bet.

If only she would do late night, but she wouldn't.

And late night, like, should be comedy because it is late night.

So the kids are asleep.

You know, it's a little.

So, but late night is two things, right?

It's two things that the internet has completely usurped.

It's comedy, which really is more podcasting, streaming services, specials, and it's celebrity interviews.

And that's also like not really happening anywhere but the internet now with like podcasts.

So it's kind of, and they really have not, Jimmy Shit Fallon actually does a good job like embracing digital with his little series.

Carpool karaoke was good.

But like

the thing that it used to provide is just being done more effectively, faster and better on the internet.

Yeah.

And I also think they're not speaking to the whole country.

They've really just like shut out and that's like bad business they've shut out half and then half of the half because it's only older people who are watching right and you have to be like really into this format so yeah maybe that's what I was saying yesterday like Jimmy Fallon he's not going down with this ship like he's having whoever on it I'm telling you he will be the last man standing yeah and it's not like it is you know the hardcore news where like you go for your bias and everyone goes to where they're the opinions where they feel seen and heard like it is meant to be for everyone so when you're not for everyone it's bad business.

And it would be interesting to see if they would like tap a podcaster, comedian, someone who does like comedy, podcast interviews in a spot like this.

And I get it because it's prestigious, but like I don't know why somebody with a really successful podcast would do it.

That's why when you're pitching yourself, when you're pitching yourself, I'm like, Koji, we haven't heard it.

It's a thankless job.

And like, it's just, it's not the vibe.

And it's the old way.

It's not the future.

Yeah.

Those are my thoughts.

Yeah, agreed.

We'll see what happens next.

If there is an apology, if he comes back, or what.

And of course, most importantly, how it affects the future of Love Night Nader.

Well, so far, the future of Love Night Nader is bright because Brooks Nader was on Watch What Happens Live last night, addressing rumors that she dated tennis pros Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner at the same time.

And shout out to the girl in the audience who asked the question who was not.

Letting Brooks go.

Like, she was really direct.

So a curious audience member asked, during the the u.s open did carlos and yannick know about each other and brooks said i would just say a lady never kisses and tells especially twice that's just not nice and then grace and chimed in from the audience saying especially not to her of course

Of course she did.

Then Andy asked if there were any truth to the rumors and Brooks responded, dating is such a loose term these days.

It's just, I don't know.

By the way, my only thing is guys do it all the time.

So why can't I?

Which prompted a standing ovation from Andy and fellow guest Mark Ronson.

Okay.

Andy was so dazzled by Brooks.

Andy's so jaded, right?

And I get it.

Like he's literally met every famous person ever and every famous person ever loves him.

It's like, it's hard to be.

And I could just tell he was living for Brooks.

Like he wanted to, they definitely went out for drinks afterwards.

Like he was so dazzled by her.

I think he was taken by like her beauty, her energy, her personality.

Yeah.

Like, First of all, the standing ovation, I didn't know Andy could get up.

Like he doesn't get up for anyone.

You know what I mean?

He doesn't move for anyone.

Like it's just his show, his house, and you kiss the ring.

And I just love to see him being obsessed with her.

Cause that's, I feel like

that's how I experienced the show.

I was like, oh, I'm obsessed with Brooks.

And I think when people meet her, they just become like obsessed with her.

She's very charismatic.

And like energetic.

And it's not what you typically get from a supermodel.

No, and it's like fun and it's like funny and it's nice.

It's not like mean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was just shocked.

So bubbly again.

She's very bubbly.

I haven't watched a full episode of Watch What Happens Live since Andy lost the weight on Ozempic.

But based on what I've seen, like he's had a personality transplant.

Yeah, and he is happy.

But let's see what happens.

I get it.

I've been there.

Like being overweight.

Not that he was overweight, but like when you have weight to lose, it can affect you.

But also, I feel like right now, Bravo's not in high season.

I think like Salt Lake City just came back.

So he hasn't been doing like a lot of episodes with all the reality stars every week, sort of the same.

And I think he gets a little also burnt out by it.

Whereas this is so fresh.

You know, I think like September, there's a lot of energy, especially in New York.

And I feel like he's on a high right now, regardless of his otherwise bad moods and weight loss.

Yeah, that's true.

And that's fair.

And I can understand that.

I agree, especially because I do think like all day, every day communicating with like bravo lebritis who think they're just like such hot shit.

Like it's definitely annoying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So he has my, he has my sympathies.

We're giving Grace.

I understand him deeply.

We're giving Grace Ann.

We're giving Grace Ann.

But I just want to say, like, these sisters, they're so funny.

They're so messy.

It's just everything I see of them.

Grace Ann shouting from the audience.

Like,

they're so crazy.

They are so crazy.

And you know what?

They want it so bad.

It's going to happen.

It's happening.

Yeah.

No, and it's a good thing because they're like really being authentic.

No one is in this day and age because

everyone's so scared.

Yeah.

No, they don't give a fuck.

They're not scared.

No, I love their parents.

I just love everything about them.

Yeah.

No, it was, it's a great, I mean, it was a great night for the neighbors.

It's been a great week, month, hopefully year.

Yeah.

Hopefully, Jimmy doesn't bring him down.

Oh, yeah.

No, no, no.

They need to leave him on the side of the road.

Oh, yeah.

Like, I like, Jimmy, you got us here.

Thank you.

Good day, sir.

They shouldn't post about it.

They should keep walking.

No, no, keep walking.

There's no good way to like have a take on this.

It's so divisive.

He is like road kill, like moving along.

Agreed.

Radioactive.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Like, he's had how many years in the spot?

Like, 30 years.

She just got her minute.

Like, no, I'm not, I'm not.

Now is not the time for loyalty, Brooks.

No, no.

Scram.

Are you ready for our next story, which is some major finance news?

Major finance news?

Let me just try and possibly think what the hell you're talking about.

That we would be talking about on the show.

I know that you know what it is.

Finance news.

But when I call it that, that, the Dow?

No.

The NASDAQ?

No.

Oh, oh, I know.

It's the SP.

The Haley Bieber is giving the Chase Sapphire Reserve on Glow.

Okay, this is seriously.

What's the opposite of a Toasty Lion?

Like, this makes no sense to me.

Why would Chase, I get it?

Cause like whatever you put Haley Bieber in front of right now, like she is the moment, but like that ad of her carrying a big credit card, like I'm confused.

No, Haley bieber posted yesterday a picture of her with like a photoshop credit card like where as like a clutch and was just like chase sapphire is our hashtag ad

to haley i say get your bag queen to chase i say what is the direction here and to me i want to say i've been holding on to my chase sapphire i actually this summer we went out to dinner a lot yeah i paid sometimes and i would put out my card

i would put out my card and everyone would make fun of me because i had the chase sapphire well a fun fact about Jackie is that, you know, Jackie and I are close personal friends with Brian Kelly, the points guy.

So we kind of have like a direct line access to him.

And we were asking him when we were new to like the credit card game, like which cards to get.

Here's what we spent on the card.

And I had never had a credit card before.

So it was when we came on the breath, and that was 2018, he told us about this Chase Sapphire card, which was like the card.

Yeah, he was actually part of, you know, he worked with Chase to create, it's like the best points system.

So we both got it.

Jackie got the wrong one.

You've been carrying around this, what, Chase Sapphire preferred?

I believe it is preferred.

And it's like kind of like, I don't know, the broke down version of this card.

She got the wrong one.

And like, when you open a credit card, you don't want to close it.

So she just like lived with this random credit card.

It's like a lot of paperwork.

It's also bad for your credit to close credit cards.

You shouldn't.

No, no.

And I just like, listen, it works, whatever.

Then this summer, every time I would take out my card, like everyone was clowning on me for my credit card.

So I just want you to know, like, I finally got a new credit card.

I've made.

Oh, you did?

Yeah, I got an American Express.

You didn't have an American Express

Not for personal usage.

No, which one did you get gold?

Platinum.

Oh my God, you're always getting the wrong card.

You're lying.

Platinum, by the way, Brian always says platinum is more expensive and it's worse.

You're lying.

You have to get the gold.

Did you actually?

Why didn't you ask?

I just, platinum sounds better than gold.

Like it is because it's more expensive, but actually like the hack everybody knows is like, actually, I never use my platinum.

I have two golds now the gold is the best i'm sorry you're fucking kidding me i'm all set up i put on my apple pay especially for like what we spend money on and a lot of people get the platinum because it has like a lot of delta rewards but you don't leave the house i'm not right for this game this credit card game it's it's too expensive too it's like 600 a year oh my gosh well i guess i already paid it and did you get a sign up bonus i don't know Oh my god, you're seriously like, why are you moving in silence?

Just ask.

No, I just thought everyone was putting down platinums this summer.

I just got who nobody I just saw that was like the best one

it is a good one did you open a personal or a business one personal personal wrong wrong wrong

well you know what maybe I'll get the gold by the way for anyone listening the gold especially if you spend money on normal things like food and gas yeah it's four times on food not gas and it's so much cheaper annually I think it's maybe like $150 a year whereas the platinum is like five six hundred dollars

don't listen to Jackie I didn't say listen to me but maybe I'll listen to Haley B.

Maybe.

Not you coming over here like bragging

the platinum.

And like, yes, it's technically more prestigious.

It golds like the green one and then the gold one and the platinum and the black card.

But like points-wise and like what you would use it for, you don't need it.

Well, I'm not getting a new one, okay?

Just stop, okay?

Don't.

I'm not doing anything different.

It's better than what I had.

Can we agree on that?

Yes.

So what you had was the Chase Sapphire.

Preferred.

Right.

And that's what Haley did an ad for.

Haley did an ad for Chase Sapphire Reserve, which is the same as the Preferred.

They really.

No.

Okay.

So.

So the Reserve is a popular premium credit card, and the stakes are particularly high this year for it to attract and retain customers as its annual fee is about to increase from $550 to $795.

Oh, my God.

And by the way, this is the card Brian told us to get.

Yes.

And you did it.

They, no, and I got messed up.

I thought like...

preferred fabric.

She went better than reserve.

You thought preferred was preferred.

Just like I thought platinum was better than gold.

Right, right.

And God forbid you just ask, you know?

Ugh, it's hard.

Like, it's just too many steps.

Anyways, the brand chose Bieber because, quote, she reflects the aspirations of the Sapphire Reserve card holder, worldly and travel savvy, they said.

I agree with that.

I feel like the people they're trying to court with this card are the sort of road customers.

Yeah, I just thought the ad was weird.

Like, the gold thing is weird.

Chase hiring Haley Bieber.

Yeah, of course.

Like, she's the moment.

Chase is like a big bank.

That's great.

The creative was confusing to me.

Like, her clutching a big oversized credit card like it's a purse under her armpit.

Like, it was just weird.

Yeah.

But get that bag.

Get that credit card.

They should have like bonus points if you shop Rode with it.

That would be cool.

I'm sure there's like some back-end deal that she got.

Yeah, in addition to a big pile of money.

Right, right.

I mean, people do like Capital One all the time.

This was just like, it came out of nowhere.

Jennifer Garner, Taylor Swift was capital one.

There's nothing weird about partnering with a credit card.

Just like there was no announcement of the partnership.

There wasn't a commercial.

There was just like this picture on her Instagram.

Like it was weird.

It was weird, but it did make me feel like, oh, maybe my card, my old card, isn't so bad at all.

Okay, but the picture she, the card she's holding is not the card that you have, sweetie.

It's pretty much the same.

No, no, it's the whole point.

Like, you got the wrong one.

It's pretty much the same.

Plus, it's the number I have memorized.

So, like, I am still using it when I shop online and stuff.

What the number you have memorized, like, is the one.

Yeah.

Like I know I should get up and go get my one.

No.

I'm not getting up at this stage.

No, no.

You're like Andy.

I can't believe I still don't have the one that I need.

Yeah.

But I'm not going through this.

It's fine, right?

Like it's fine.

It's fine.

It's fine.

It's fine.

Plus, I'm not a big points player.

No, you're not.

Like one day, maybe I'll go on like a

round, a trip around the world and I'll use all my points that I've been collecting for 10 years because I don't use my points.

Yeah, you know, I use your points.

What do you mean?

Like we have a shared credit card, you and I, like for the biz.

Yes.

And like we collect points from them and like I take them sometimes.

For what?

Like flights and stuff.

Where are you going?

To visit you, mostly.

Then that's fine by me.

Yeah.

That's fine by me.

It's fine by me.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Oh, no.

Like not even close.

I've been segueing really beautifully through the stories.

You have.

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Do they say what it is?

Yes.

Do you want to take a guess?

I don't think you'll guess it.

I was going to say Fallon because that's her boy, but no?

No.

And is it like a classic late night show or it's just a talk show, like a podcast?

It is kind of a classic late night show, but like let's go across the pond, if you will.

Oh, Graham Norton.

Graham Norton.

That's shocking because he's like very crass and like, I just feel like she loves to stunt in the UK.

I know, like having royals come to her show.

But also like for Joe and all the like

you're going to see me everywhere.

Yeah.

And he's like kind of crass and like, you know,

I feel like when she goes to an interview, there's like a list of things she wants to talk about.

She's at a level where she gets to be protected, right?

She doesn't have to be in the slums with everyone.

And also, Graham Norton is a type of show where he has multiple guests on at the same time.

So you're always like throwing in a hodgepodge.

That's how we've gotten like amazing moments.

My favorite, I don't watch Graham Norton, but one of my favorite Joan Rivers' best moments like happened on his show.

And she's like with these other two like random, like famous TV writers.

So it's like this hodgepodge.

I wonder who else is going to be on with her.

It's kind of crazy.

Here's who's going to be on with her.

Oh.

Killian Murphy.

Classic.

Greta Lee.

Who?

Jodi Turner Smith.

Oh, I know Jodi Turner Smith, but who was the other person?

Greta Lee

and Dom Nal Gleeson.

Dom Nol Gleeson.

Are you okay?

Why?

Do you like know how to speak?

Domal Gleason.

You know him?

He's from Harry Potter.

Oh, cool.

But why do I know his name?

He's like always being

talked to.

Domino Gleason.

Yeah, like, what is he from?

Oh, about time.

Yeah.

I started that movie.

I didn't finish it.

Oh, and my favorite movie, Ex Machina.

You know that's my favorite movie.

Peter Rabbit.

He's so Peter Rabbit.

He kind of like looks like you.

Like me?

Yeah.

I'm going to see.

He has red hair.

He has red hair.

He gives me like Ron Weasley energy.

I think I get him confused with Ron.

Well, did he play a Weasley in Harry Potter?

He must have.

Yeah.

But he's 42.

Oh.

Yeah.

Well, that's like a bunch of nobodies.

I kind of don't like this for Taylor.

I know.

Well, I don't really like her cast of

this crew.

Like, this crew doesn't do a lot for me.

And there's no connections.

It's not like I can think of somebody in that group who's like a big Swifty or somebody who she dated.

there's no interesting connection.

I wonder

why Graham.

This is so weird.

There's so many choices.

She's been relatively quiet.

Like this album rollout is pretty soon.

It's October 3rd and we've gotten no singles.

I saw they released an orange cardigan.

Her merch team is just like always doing the most.

It's like, well, what about like the other teams?

That's all we've gotten.

There's no been no.

Because the vital singles is working hard.

Of course.

It was like all the different covers, you know, cover A, cover B, cover C, all of which work in my opinion better better than the original collection.

I'm not even going there.

I just want you to know TSB.

Same.

T.S.

The same.

No.

Woodvale.

Super Bowl.

No.

I'm like kind of waiting for something.

And like, this is what we're getting.

I don't know.

I don't even know how I'm going to be able to watch it.

Yeah, we'll see clips.

I just...

I wonder why, Graham.

There are so many options, you know, in this face-it morning show, late-night show, podcast, Zane Lowe.

And why something not American?

I don't don't know.

She always has a strategy.

There's a reason for everything.

I would love to know, but I can't guess right now.

Yeah, it'll all make sense one day.

I'm sure, yeah.

But right now, that's all we have.

So

she will be there on what day?

October 3rd, hours before the album drops.

Okay.

And then our fifth and final story, a little summer house spin-off news,

because Bravo posted Teaser and announced that they were in production on the new Summerhouse spin-off show, following the lives of its Manhattan Night stars when they're not weekending out East.

So it's filming under the working title, In the City.

News of the show was launched in a cryptic Instagram post.

It was like a trailer of stuff from the Hamptons, people's voices, city stills, and it said, City Life Activated.

A new series is coming soon.

Then the network expanded more about the series in a release, saying, quote, in the city that never sleeps, a group of New Yorkers navigates the biggest transitions of their lives, marriage, parenthood, reinvention, and the reality of growing up without growing apart.

Can they have it all or will they need to choose between the lives they built and the futures they never saw coming?

So I feel like this has been spoken about, like rumored to be

happening for a while.

I think there was some confusion.

It was basically really, I think, centered around Lindsay Hubbard, who can't really do Summerhouse for much longer.

But is reality TV gold?

And what does this mean for her?

And so I think having a show in the city is great.

I also think this this is sort of an exit strategy for some of the older summer house castmates being 42 and dancing on a table with 21 year olds at three in the morning is not obviously a sustainable lifestyle for kyle cook um so i think that's good

you know like

i i need lindsay hubbard on tv and i don't think summer house is right for her anymore so i like that the network is clearly working with her to do something I don't really need Kyle and Amanda in the city.

And we're also, they're also going to be in the summer house.

I don't know.

Like,

I don't know.

I feel like they're doing this because

they are intent on keeping the Real Houses of New York

new show.

They're intent on trying to keep it alive with some of the same people.

And I don't know why they don't want to throw Lindsay in there.

Like, it just, that would have been so much easier than starting a whole new show.

Yeah.

Andrea and Lexi are also taking part in the series.

Oh, right.

Andrea.

He was on Summer House, and then he left and got married.

And he wasn't even even like my favorite.

Like he was fine on Summer House.

He was just like a handsome guy.

And it was fun to watch him and Paige, but like him on his own with his wife.

Like, I'm good, you know?

Yeah.

And then it's unclear whether Carl will be on the show.

But if they are building the show around Lindsey, like, it's actually not right to bring him on.

Also, did you see Soft Bar open?

Today.

Today?

Today.

I was going to say Softbar open today.

I'm really happy for him.

I genuinely, I want nothing but this to be like the busiest, most

And the thing is, there's going to be a lot of hoopla, it's open, but like, as in terms of a sustainable business, like this is not going to end well.

And like, I'm, I hope to be wrong, but I just know that I'm not.

Yeah, no, I'm definitely scared, but it is a burgeoning space.

Like, do you not see there's so many like drinks out, functional mushrooms, tinctures?

Like, I don't know how much

space there is for like the IRL experience,

but

let's see.

Okay.

Let's see.

Okay.

Softbar.

Okay.

All is that to say, first of all, the title is not good because let's be not forget about the original show called The City.

I mean, this is just in the city, and it's like not a good name.

This announcement is very womp, womp, womp.

It's like they took some shit like from the cutting room floor of Summerhouse.

They made a little video.

They said in the city, and then they put this out with like kind of like with not even the official cast like no one I saw People who are rumored to be joining that would be new faces.

I didn't know who they were doesn't mean that's not gonna be good, but it's just like give me a trailer that gets me excited.

I do think this bodes well for the future of Summerhouse because there has been this like sort of weird divide just generationally between the new castmates and the old ones.

And I think there's a lot of potential with like these young guys, Jesse and Wes.

And like not, I know Lexi's not there, but like that, that type of people.

That's who should be going to the Hamptons every weekend getting blackout.

They're 21.

They're all hooking up with each other.

That's what the show should be.

And people like Kyle and Amanda and Lindsay just like have sort of aged out of it.

And so this show is good for that.

I don't know.

I don't have like a ton of high hopes.

And I wanted Lindsay in a different capacity.

And I want Lindsay on TV.

And it really wasn't like this.

Yeah.

And if they were going to like make an announcement, they should have.

had more to announce, more to say, more to show us to get us excited because this just looks like

scrap

by movie trailer yeah yeah and the thing is like Lindsay isn't really friends with Amanda like

this is just kind of forced yeah

not great

not great announcement agreed I'm not like pumped up when we've been waiting for this for months and we've been like hinging a lot on it yeah I do think that they all will return to the house this summer maybe for like a final summer but as a way of transition kind of like maybe when sheena walked in from the real houses in beverly hills onto the first episode of antiprop roles love that Which was a chilling moment in pop culture hurt story.

Yeah, that would be a great transition.

But do you have a show?

Right.

Like, is there a show then to watch that's good that I want to see?

Right.

I think they just unclear.

These announcements just sort of packed more punch, also say.

Yeah, and it just, it goes, it reminds me like how Bravo really has such a hard time making shows in New York.

Next gen NYC.

They're chugging along.

I think it's over.

Really?

I see them around.

I mean, they did make waves to that Ariana Bierman thing.

They chug.

Yeah, I don't know.

And the Roni.

I saw a bunch of the Ronies were together last night, like, filming?

Like, give them a camera.

Just stop.

What do you, like, what's.

No, sorry.

I'm talking about the new ones.

Oh.

Don't give them a camera.

Stop.

Don't stop.

Yeah.

It was Jenna Lyons, Aaron Lynchy, Sy, and Jissel.

Well, as long as Jissel's there,

Jisle tank.

That's my girl.

Luanne is on the Skinny Confidential this week.

I feel like everybody interviews her in a kitschy sort of way because she's like this dramatic.

But they really do.

I saw the trailer.

It seems like they cover like...

her countess life, her life, like all, and in a serious way, because she really is so interesting.

And then I saw Dorinda and her were doing a radio show together on Radio Andy, and it's like, seriously enough, bring these women back.

Like, it's really

good.

I don't know.

Like,

what are you trying to prove?

It feels like they want to punish the women, I don't know, for being like who they are.

Alcoholics.

Yeah, like who they are, you know.

And I guess Bravo probably has a hard time because they really try to be like,

you know, not, they really try to be like

super like sensitive to everyone these women are like not sensitive people.

They're cataloging.

They're ushering themselves into the 21st century and they've left the Roanie Legacy women behind like for the sake of like, you know,

kind of like wokeism.

Yeah, for lack of a better, like, wokeishness, yeah.

Yeah, and these women are not woke, and I feel like no, they're like,

they are needed.

I know, can't you just give like one non-woke show?

Like, just let it rip.

Let us have it.

Let it rip.

If it goes bad, okay, it goes bad, but like, there is, it's gold.

This is my dream cast.

And it's seriously just Luann.

Like, honestly, give Luann her own show.

Sonia Morgan, like, must return.

Ramona, lover her, hate her.

She is gold on television.

I would love to see Jill Zaron back in action.

You guys know how I feel about her ever since I re-watched Roni.

Yeah.

Like, the show was built on her back.

I don't need Bethany.

I don't.

I feel like she's doing her own thing.

And she, like, I don't need her.

I, I agree.

I don't think she wants to be there.

I think it disrupts the balance.

And I don't,

I don't want Dorinda.

I know.

And that's a hot take because when people talk about bringing Ronnie Legacy back, they say the same thing as us, but they include dorinda in that we were not dorinda gals like we were not interested

even like five years on i have dorinda fatigue like and it's i'm still fatigued all of them will fatigue you at some point but like i have no interest in going back there

and i do also include in my runny legacy cast cindy barshop of course and you know kelly bensimone is always around and so i'm fine with that I'm fine with that too.

Were you okay when Jill Bensimone was photographer?

We didn't even talk about that on Love Thy Nator when Jill Ben Simone, which is so crazy that he was married to Kelly.

He's 1,000 years old, was the photographer on her Maxim shoe.

Yeah, this is such a throwback to like America's Next Time Model.

It's crazy that he's still the premier photographer in the fashion industry.

And he has been since America's Next Time Model.

Since what?

I was watching that show and I was like 12.

Yeah.

That's insane.

Good for him.

Good for him.

He took six photos of Brooks.

See, he did amazing for Brooks, eh?

Who were obsessed?

I love your photos, Gilles.

Are we going to do another title like that today?

Of course.

People are loving it, which I love.

I know, because you know, when we beat a joke down into the ground, we make people hate it.

But no, I really don't know.

But no, so far I've seen no hate for it.

And if you have it, like, keep it to yourself.

Yeah.

I'm having fun.

Everything will cycle through, okay?

That's all you need to know.

Nothing is forever.

Except

swirlitude.

Our love.

We've got that swirlitude.

Gotta have that swirlitude.

That is from the Bratz movie.

Which, if you haven't seen, seriously educate yourself.

So many like random stars in that actual made-for-TV $3 budget piece of shit movie.

The mom from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, she plays the mom in that film.

I believe John Voight is the principal.

What?

Right?

I see.

Or the actor who looks like John Voight.

Bratz movie IMDb.

There is somebody really big in it.

Chet Hanks.

Wait.

Oh, yes.

Chet Hanks.

There's also, who plays the deaf guy?

Yeah, there's a deaf character.

It's the best movie, you guys.

No, it has everything.

But wait.

Oh, Janelle Parrish, of course.

Of course, it's not a teenager.

John Voigt plays the principal, okay?

Danny Bucco is in it.

Annelise Vanderpol, who plays Chelsea and That's O'Raven, is also in it.

Claudia, Danny Bucco from the Valley

is in it.

I believe you.

He plays a jock.

John Voigt, you're right.

And by the way, the mom from My Big Factory Wedding, I will never know her name, but in case anyone's wondering, it's Lainey Kazan and I love her.

Yeah.

Chet Hanks.

And it is directed by Sean McNamara.

Why were we just talking about Sean McNamara the other day?

Is he not from...

He did Soul Surfer.

We were talking about that.

The Bethany Hamilton story.

Yes, I was looking looking something up on ChatGBT and it said something about Sean McNamara.

Well, ask ChatGPT.

Oh, he did raise your voice.

He did raise your voice.

Okay, the thing is, that's our guy, Claudia.

The Turdy Lou Life story must be drawn to the story.

I was about to say, the documentary.

Uh-huh.

He also did bring it on Fight to the Finish, the lesser-known sequel.

And he definitely, you know, gets through the year with

some Hallmark Christmas movies.

He did the Sweet Life movie he did legally blonde this is our guest of course the two twins from sweet life he also uh did a hundred episodes of that's so raven i guess he put annalise in

interesting rats movie the right girl for the job also raise your voice fill of the future the even stevens movie even stevens the show he recently directed reagen with Dennis Swade.

So he's obviously getting into more serious fare, but I haven't heard anything about Reagan.

Oh, and he did Casper Meets Wendy, which will mean something to somebody.

Jackie?

What?

I'm going to blow your mind.

I know why I just remembered his name.

Not from Raise Your Voice.

The Holocaust movie that has been sponsoring our show, Bow Artists at War, directed, sorry, produced by Sean McNamara.

And it's this one?

Bow Artists at War.

They've been sponsoring our show.

And the story of Joseph Bow.

You're sure it's this Sean McNamara?

Yep.

Wow.

That is his most recent.

That's our guy.

Our work here is done.

Like, get you a guy who could direct a Holocaust film and 100 episodes of That's Our Raven.

And the Bratz movie.

And the future Toast documentary.

Like what Smartless had.

Yeah.

Oh.

Whenever we do our

version, it will be Sean McNamara and Kenny Ortega.

And like, literally, it will be Sean McNamara presents the Toast documentary.

Like, his name is going to be in the title.

Of course.

So, it could have real street cred.

I'm going to pee in my pants.

Unfortunately, I have to cut this conversation short, even though I'm having so much fun.

No, we've reached the end.

This is the end.

Hold your breath and count

to 10.

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