I Love Your Show, Toast: Tuesday, September 16th, 2025

Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

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We'll start your day off swirly.

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Welcome back to the toast on Happy Tuesday.

And I choose you, Filet.

Today,

tomorrow, and every day.

I choose you, Jisletink.

I choose you, forever and a day.

I feel like not enough people know about forever and a day.

Do you want to tell them?

This is just like weekly lore.

I feel like once we're in the link.

It's actually weekly Jackie lore.

We've been telling

Jackie.

I have a lot of lore in my life.

I feel like...

I'm a very interesting individual.

Songs have been written about me.

Yeah, like, what was it for?

A birthday?

It was for our one-year anniversary.

When Jackie and Zach first started dating, he wrote her a country song.

And let me tell you, it's the best song.

I sing it all the time.

I find myself singing it whenever I say the phrase, oh me, oh my, which I kind of say a lot.

Oh, me.

Oh, my, a love like this.

Let me sing it for everyone so they could really, like, hear it because they know I'm the singer here.

Oh, me, oh, my, a love like this comes once in a lifetime.

That's how I know I got my girl and I'm never letting go.

Go, I don't know how it goes after that.

One hundred dopey.

It's the best thing that's happened to me.

That's how I stay loving you forever and a day.

It was so good.

He recorded it.

It was the cutest thing ever.

And let me tell you, the song ate down.

Yeah.

No, the song left no crumbs.

My husband is actually like very musical, as am I, but he like raps.

And I think growing up, he liked.

His bar mitzvah theme was hip-hop.

Yeah.

Growing up, he used to like write raps and like he liked to like play around with music.

And then when we started dating and I love country music, music, he wrote me a country song and he recorded it in a studio and gave it to me.

And it's, it's such a good song because, like, if someone's gonna write a song about you, like, it better be good.

Right, you have to sit there and listen to it.

Like, and it was so good.

Everyone would sing it.

And then at our wedding, he like sang it to me, like, drunk on the dance floor, not in a serious way.

And like, yeah, don't worry.

But, like, all of our friends and family know the song because when he wrote it for me, like, we all shared it.

So, like, the whole wedding was singing, oh, me,

oh, my love.

And it was just, it was like a late night moment not like a babe no like singing you down the aisle

and

it was extremely lit so that's something cool about me it is just like a fun fact it's so good i'm telling you i sing it i'm like oh me oh my love like this comes well i can never remember that one hundo pee because we that was when he wrote it like people used to say hundo pee a lot

and it's kind of a a time cap it is and he and i used to say it a lot it was like a a cordial in our relationship, in our relation.

It's so cute.

I love it.

And I stay loving you, bitch, forever and a day, Mofo.

Well, thank you.

I love you forever and a day as well, Mofo.

I love you.

You're so beautiful.

Why, thank you so much.

I'm really trying to look like a human being on this show because we're not going to be able to do it.

I can't believe you didn't say anything.

That you're wearing my sweatshirt.

Yeah.

Well, the sweatshirt's mine now because I stole it directly from your closet.

But

you didn't know.

Yeah.

No, let me tell you why it makes it mine because I was wearing the the sweatshirt when i found out i was pregnant with ruby so it's mine now right no and it's still

no there's like a huge stain on the wrist from me it's mine but it's so mine it's botticelli uh possession's nine-tenths of the law and like once you stain something

you own it okay just watch your back little girl oh no i'm afraid of the pregnant woman looking so parchy in her little brown outfit oh my god

Thank you so much.

Getting dressed at this stage like has been a feat.

I have a lot of challenges to overcome.

I I need to give a shout out to one of our sponsors, actually, Cakes.

I love your cakes, Cakes, because one of my many issues is like nippleitis in pregnancy.

I feel like my boobs show through everything.

So I've been wearing their grippies in my bras.

I was doing it all summer when I was wearing like athletic dresses, just things that are like sort of thin.

And I wanted to wear like a cute little t-shirt, a girl in a tee, but like we don't need the headlights on, you know?

Yeah, no, it's hard to be a girl in a tee at this stage.

Spotlights on.

So Cakes has been like saving my R's.

They're a toast sponsor.

They're a toaster-owned owned business.

They went on Shark Tank.

They have stickies and grippies, but I like the grippies.

I just like put them in my bra.

They're actually one of the sponsors today.

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Not to tease.

We also have deer toasters.

It's kind of a synergy.

It's a day.

We're all about the synergy.

I feel like that's such a good call.

I think when you're like at the late stages of pregnancy, like your nipples are getting ready to breastfeed.

So they become enormous and they show through.

everything.

Yeah.

So you want to like put something.

I feel like some people start using their like lactation right devices beforehand, but I those leave marks Yeah, no, but I've been using these grippies and like I'm smooth You're looking smooth as butter.

You're looking like a sexy little piece of dark chocolate today.

I just want to take a little nibble at it.

No, I really don't like the nickname and I'm gonna like tell you I need you to change it.

I know it's going through a flow, but so this summer she's she's Koji when she is like in ant mode and so also let's start from the beginning.

Let's start from the cover.

Koji.

Koya koya is what the koya is what the kids used to call me they didn't really call you it we tried to like dumb down your name so that they would so they could say say your name more so we start with koya and then it kind of turned into koja so like we always tell the kids koja koja koja to make it easy so that they like feel inclined to say her name um and it worked by the way you see these kids they're like koja koja i love you you're skinny koja i love you you're beautiful they always say auntie koja yeah and then this summer like we were calling her coach all summer because she was in ant mode all summer so it morphed into like Koji and then

Kojis.

Yeah.

Then Jissey.

Right, of course, for sure.

Dropped the Ko, Jisy, and now

Jissel.

And now

Jistle Tank.

And I'm going to need you to evolve once again because I'm not loving.

I will.

Just let me.

I think you know by now, just let me go on my journey.

Oh, yeah.

And to be clear, make sure your journey doesn't include just calling me tank.

Because at my, you know, that's next.

I was thinking the same thing.

At my current stage like i don't think i would be able to take it honestly okay tank-alish no

no like seriously no okay we'll walk that i've given you free reign to call me whatever you want so much so that i embrace being called turdy okay do not call me tank okay we're gonna walk it back we're gonna workshop me and my walk it back walk it back okay we're gonna we're gonna pivot

oh what did i do last night what did i watch i wanted to watch something that i could like talk about on the toes Oh, it's Dancing with the Stars Day.

That's exciting.

I've been seeing so much Dancing with the Stars stuff.

I am riding hard for team Whitney Liavit.

I really think she's going to win, though.

Jen Affleck is going to give her a run for her money.

I also think Alec, you know, the thing about Alex Earl is like, she's so perfect looking.

She's like, it's like, she's obviously going to win.

She's young.

She's able-bodied.

She's in amazing shape.

She's actually kind of like not a good dancer in the sense of like not super, super coordinated.

That's like her thing.

She's like kind of like ditzy, haha.

And so I've been watching her TikToks of like really, she's really trying hard.

Like I think she's going to be most improved.

But Whitney's coming into this like a profession.

I think Whitney has a career.

I think she might have been a dance minor or something.

Like she has background in dance.

No, she's got rhythm.

She's got riz.

Like some people just have that like dance flair.

Alex doesn't.

She'll be a great contestant, but like I would be shocked if she won.

I am rooting for her, though.

Me too.

There's a lot of people that I'm rooting for.

Just want to say once again, I'm not rooting for Gleb Samchenko.

I'm rooting, I'm praying on his downfall.

Okay.

Yeah.

I finished Love Thy Nader last night.

You were missing one episode.

I was missing one episode, and you were right that whatever we saw for next is like a preview for

the second half of the season, not

next week coming out.

Damn.

Yeah.

Glad to know that Jules like didn't father a child out of wedlock, though I never thought he did.

And then Mary Beth Holland came up on my Instagram or no, TikTok, and she had made a TikTok with him like a week ago.

So they're still together.

Phew.

I know I was really worried about her throwing her whole life away for this reality show, but thankfully she only threw her career away.

Her personal life is still intact.

Yes.

And I don't mind her prioritizing the show over her relationship at this moment.

Like she shouldn't move to LA without an engagement.

Agreed.

I think the show is a really good business for her.

Like if it was just like, I'm going to do modeling instead of moving to LA, I'd be like, girl, just go to LA.

But like the show, she's doing it with her sister.

She should be there for it, at least until he proposes.

That's what I'm saying.

I would love for the show to go across the pond when he takes her family to Wimbledon.

Like, I know Brooks isn't there, but that's something I would definitely like to see.

Maybe they do.

I think they filmed all summer.

I'm obsessed.

Yeah, very exciting.

And now they're so in the press.

Like, yeah, everywhere.

Every day that I'm looking for stories, it's like Nader sisters here, Nader sisters there.

No, I love it.

Yeah.

It's exciting.

What did I watch all day?

Why am I having such a hard time remembering?

I called you, didn't I?

Yeah, what was I watching?

What was I saying?

I put on Hulu, I recall.

Because Hulu's where it's at these days.

Sorry.

Yeah, everything goes in waves.

I just

have a shock surge.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wait, I feel like I'm going crazy.

What did I watch last night?

I don't know.

I had to be

early to bed.

It was a co-sleeping night.

It was an ETB kind of night.

Yeah.

So just had to lay there in the dark.

Love that.

I went to to bed at 8 30.

there's like right now i'm in my era of prioritizing rest i don't know when i'm not but yeah no but that's that's good

you know tomorrow's my wedding anniversary it is what is the year 2017 till now eight

three and five

three and five right that's how i did the math as well um yeah it's my eight-year wedding anniversary and

celebrate We have a fab dinner reservation.

I feel like every time we celebrate a wedding anniversary, I start saying the next year.

So it's like we celebrated our eighth.

So when people ask, I'm like, yeah, we're married nine years.

So I've been saying it's our eighth wedding anniversary for almost a year.

And now it feels like you've been married no time at all.

Correct.

Well,

eight years.

How'd you say you're celebrating?

We have a party dinner reservation at a party hot spot.

Oh, wow.

Do you think you'll be able to focus on romance with all the heat in the air?

No, and heat.

No.

From a hot spot.

Oh, yes.

At this particular restaurant, like not only can I,

I have, like, many memories of never being able to, like, look at the person that I'm with because you just, it's one of those restaurants.

You have to have your head on a swivel because everywhere you go, celebrity, celebrity, celebrity.

Yeah.

Well, that's romantic.

Yes.

I love people watching.

And that's how you choose to celebrate.

Gets me real hot.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, happy anniversary to you and Lish.

To the Lish family.

Thank you so much.

The Lish family.

How, like, do you...

Never mind.

I was just going to start a conversation that was going to be uninteresting.

Run it back.

But can you, can you just tell me what it was going to be?

I won't answer.

I won't have the conversation, but like, just curious.

No.

Okay.

It's like, trust me, I'm not holding anything back.

It's uninteresting.

I'm saving you.

I'm curiosity.

I'm saving you.

Just take the save and move on.

Okay, we can take the save.

We could also get into the stories because we have some interesting stories.

We have dear toasters.

Like, we do.

We've got a show for you.

I love your show, Toast.

Let's try all this week to do titles like I Love Your Blank Blank.

Let's do it.

I've been saying it so much.

It's so funny.

I was on the phone with Shannon yesterday.

Yeah, I spoke to Shannon.

We're friends.

I love your baby, Shannon.

Right.

And I said, I was like doing, you know, monologuing and I said, I love your blank, blank.

But I know she's behind on the toes.

So like, it just.

That was hard for me.

And for anyone who wants to know, she's doing so well.

Yeah.

I spoke to to her yesterday too.

Yeah, I spoke yesterday.

I sent her flowers.

Did you?

Maybe.

No, you didn't.

I sent her flowers and she actually texted me like, oh my God, that card was really beautiful.

I got choked up.

Wow.

Yeah, because Shannon and I, we've been doing this together.

You know, she's leaned on me.

I've leaned on her.

And it's just been like a really beautiful experience to go through with your best friend, Shannon.

So I just wanted to send her some flowers to commemorate this amazing journey we've been on together.

I feel like

technically you've been on it.

I've been on it together too.

I think I was like pregnant with her longer than you, but we're on this journey.

Taylor's pregnant too.

Did you see her gender reveal?

Donahue?

And Monica.

Oh, yeah, well, Taylor, Donahue is also pregnant.

Right.

And yes, I did see her gender reveal, but you know what?

I wanted to get your take on this because the Taylors are being so annoying about their baby name.

Like they haven't.

They will not tell anyone.

Like even Taylor's mom.

Like they won't tell anyone.

And I gave a yes to her gender.

Name.

Why would they tell you?

I don't know.

I feel like if you're not like crazy Jewish, like you tell.

I don't think so.

Well, they're just being like really secretive about it.

So much so that like maybe I wouldn't have cared, but now I'm like dying to know.

And I had a really good guess that I texted them this morning.

They said it's not the name, but now I feel like it was such a good guess.

They might, it's such a good name.

They might change it.

It's kind of how I felt when I told Nicole Combs that she should really name her next son Boone, because he's from Boone, North Carolina.

And she was like, oh, I love that name, but somebody they know has a name, so she really can't.

I think, and I just wanted to say it because in case I was right, but I don't think that I am now.

They're having a girl.

And I think that, and they're going with the last name Streker.

So you have to think of all names with the last name Streker.

And I think that they're going to name their daughter, Dorter,

Birdie.

Hear me out.

Taylor Donahue is obsessed with the Eagles.

Now, obviously, she's not going to name her daughter Eagle.

But like as a nod, and it's a pretty name.

It's also like a cool name.

Like a lot of people do it.

Birdie.

It is a pretty name.

Take the Eagles out of it.

Right, right.

But you know, like, that means a lot to Donahue.

I understand.

I think it's so crazy that you would expect them to tell you their name.

Especially like when Tars under lock and key and

for seven days.

Yeah, but like we tell each other everything.

Who?

Me and the tailors.

You didn't tell them names you were thinking.

I'm bound by the covenant between me and the Lord.

Like that's so different.

I know, but like they're just giving you a taste of your own medicine.

So I brought it up because you're not going to be able to do that.

Do you do unto others as you would do unto them?

Shut up.

I wanted to ask you if you had a good name guess because you're good at that.

I'm not good at that.

Yeah, you are.

You're good with names.

You have beautiful names.

I do.

I mean, they come so hard to me, but what, when did I ever guess well?

Oh, sorry, not guess, but like, give them a suggestion.

Well, I think they'll go with something with a T.

You do?

I do.

What if they went with Donna?

What if they went with

Taylor?

I like it.

Yeah, I think it would be something with a T.

I think you've got it at that point.

Okay, fine.

Something with a T.

And I feel like it's just going to hark back to like Philadelphia and and the Eagles.

What's like a T?

Tate.

So cute.

That is cute.

Really cute.

Tate Strek.

Tate Strek.

I said that they should do Brady Hobbs and name the kid Strecker, but that's if it was a boy.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Aligned.

Stories are what?

Good.

Some things to chew really chew on today.

Oh, you're feeling chewy?

I am feeling.

I could just see you, though, being like, who cares?

Seriously, there are so many stories I genuinely don't don't care about.

I'll let you know when I care, but it's hard because like sometimes I really don't care, but like, this is my job.

So like I have to care.

Right.

You know, but sometimes I just have to let you guys know when I really don't give a fuck.

Yes, I agree.

But sometimes you have to muster up a fuck.

Oh, do we have a story about Iris and TJ?

Yeah, we do.

Okay, okay, so I won't talk about it right now, but that's like what, let's, that's just on my FYP.

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I love your cakes, Jax.

Thank you, Jissel.

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Our first story, some music news.

Coachella 2026 announces their lineup with headliners Sabrina Carpenter, Justin Bieber, and Carol G.

The festival will take place in Indio, California during the weekends of April 10th and April 17th.

So we have Breener, Justin, Carol G.

Thoughts?

Partialish.

I feel like with every festival, but mainly Coachella, which is like the biggest one, you're guaranteed to get like one headliner who like you love and everybody loves.

For me, I'm two out of three.

I think for most Coachella goers, it's three for three.

I don't really know Carol G.

I don't listen to like a ton of Latin music, which is crazy because I am Latin.

I should probably get into that more.

Yeah.

This is huge.

I don't really understand like the order of things because I feel like for as long as I've known about these festivals, like the third night is the biggest night.

Yeah.

Even though it never really made sense to me because the third night is a Sunday.

So if there was going to be like one night where people were going to go home for work the next day, I don't know why Sunday is the biggest.

But of these three, I feel like right now, Sabrina's going to pull the most people.

And she's on Friday night.

So I don't get it.

Yeah, but I mean, if I were going and as a Breener fan, who's most excited about Breener, like Friday night would be like so exciting.

I really don't think there's a bad night, even though historically, like Sunday is the biggest night.

I do think people try and like skip traffic.

So as far as like numbers-wise, it's going to be like Friday and Saturday night being the biggest.

I think Breener's an amazing choice.

I'm so excited to see like what she brings to Coachella because she's going to bring everything in her toolkit.

Yeah, I'm thrilled for her.

This is huge.

I'm happy.

I'm not sure.

for Justin too, because I think this will be great for him.

He has such a big catalog.

He has so many fans and like, this is a great paycheck.

And it will get him like rehearsing and practicing and like, you know, busy.

Yeah.

And I think it's like, if history has taught us anything, it's that like touring is really not good for Justin Bieber's overall physical and mental health.

So I don't think if you're a big Justin fan, there's like the odds.

of you getting a show or a tour in your town anytime soon.

But him putting together this one show, I think for so many of his fans is so exciting because he really doesn't perform live.

But I think this is good for him.

He lives in California.

He doesn't have to travel.

He doesn't have to be away from his house, from his family, from his family.

Kelly and the girls always go to Coachella.

So like...

Oh, it's gonna be

party content.

Yeah, it really is.

I think that's a no-brainer.

They should do like a road house.

They should.

Like,

I'm sure they will.

Yeah.

And then, Caroline.

There's something else I wanted to say.

I'm with you.

I don't like listen to her music that often, but I've seen her perform at like award shows and stuff, and she's super talented.

And I think she's going to put on a great show.

I think this is three for three.

Yeah, not to be like that person.

Has Olivia Rodrigo ever headlined Coachella?

Definitely not.

She's definitely performed.

Yeah.

So,

so this definitely, like, you know, scoots Sabrina up in the race, not to pitt women against each other, but they've been pitted.

Oh, she made a surprise guest appearance.

Um,

that is she joined, no doubt, last year.

No, it's not the same.

I just, and I want to say this question came up in the search results on Google, like pretty quickly.

I'm not the only one searching that this morning.

And yes, I know you guys are going to say I'm toxic, pitting women against.

I'm just curious because whether or not anyone wants to to admit it, like there is a race going on between these two and it's been really leveled recently.

So much, I think Sabrina's taken the cake a little bit.

And this is huge.

Sorry, it's huge.

I agree.

Other performers for the festival, for festival goers.

I didn't even look at the other lines.

Will be the strokes.

I like the strokes.

Nine inch.

And that wasn't.

a joke actually.

Okay.

I love your strokes, stroke.

I like your song, strokes.

You know, they sing that song that they used in Sing.

It could have been me.

You know, that Halsey covers.

I guess you didn't watch Sing 2.

I must have missed it.

Nine Inch Noise, David Byrne, Iggy Pop, Young Thug, Addison Rae,

Sexy Red.

In the bags,

Sexy Red.

We know what she did.

with that song.

What did she do?

She's on that song with Bruno Mars.

Oh, look it up.

Yeah.

yeah teddy swims oh teddy swims uh moby cascade major laser fka twigs pink panthras big bang somber the double x catsey and more oh so cat's eye is from that netflix show i was like why is everybody screaming for cats eye at what was the most recent award show mtv

Yeah, and they're like super viral from this sort of like making the band type of show that Netflix put together.

Oh, I didn't know that.

I've slowly been piecing together who Katsey is.

I was first introduced to them through the Gap Jeans commercial, but I thought Kat's Eye was one person.

I was like, oh, Katsai did Gap Jeans.

I have to find out what's going on with Kat's Eye.

And then also, I think there's someone in Kat's Eye called Mannon.

And it took me a while for me to realize that's not like people talking about Shannon.

Right.

It's just a lot.

That is a lot.

But yes, their origins are Netflix.

Well, thank you for that piece of the puzzle.

You're welcome.

Taking a look at the rest of the poster.

oh what i want sorry no sorry like literally not worth an oh it's just a name i recognized who duke dumont

what he has that parchy song sing it uh i have to find it i think it's like ocean something

i know i don't think i'm the target demo for coachella but i just want to say it besides the headliners those ocean drive yeah everyone knows it of course you don't know ocean drive

uh those uh performers really sound stanky just want to say nothing else.

The elves of Coachella, Koji.

Right, because Coachella, people forget not to be like an old person.

Coachella was not this like festival for popular artists.

No, it's an indie music festival.

It's an indie music festival.

And then they realized when they put headliners on that people actually knew, their ticket sales went up.

So now it's kind of like this, who will, it's like the Super Bowl.

Who will do it?

Who will do it?

And it's not really indie anymore, but I guess like besides the headliners, it is.

They're trying to serve everyone.

Like they want the masses, so they get the headliners, but then the rest of the lineup is really, like, in the indie music category.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just want to say, I remember I texted Ben.

What we watched last night was the new season of Only Murders in the Building.

Ooh.

It's a good show.

I'm sorry.

It's really good.

And Martin Short.

I forget why, but the handle.

Martin Short is everything.

I no longer found it enjoyable, but I'm glad you're enjoying.

That's fine.

It's like it's really a beautiful,

sort of Woody Allen-esque tribute to New York.

It's like just

Love Thy Nader.

Totally.

It's different.

It's a beautiful tribute to New York.

This is Upper West Side.

They're a beautiful tribute, the neighbors, to Soho.

Yeah, they really are.

They make it look like the New York of york, like events, restaurants, walking in the street.

Yeah, it's fun.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah, why not?

A little update from the Blackstock family because Reba shared how her late stepson, Brandon Blackstock's kids, are supporting each other through his death.

So riba was at the emmys and she shared an update on the blackstock family as she uh

was his stepmother a former she ended up getting divorced from his dad but she was his stepmom for many years and they were really close and she's close with kelly so i think she's

close with the family yeah

but you know that his dad also like took money from riba the same way that brendan sort of

nefariously acted in the divorce financially His dad did the same to Reba.

Also, Reba's engaged.

Yeah, Reba's engaged to that guy.

Yeah, who is he?

He's a famous actor.

I think his like big thing is CSI Miami, but he is in Young Sheldon.

He plays the principal, and then Reba is in Young Sheldon playing Connie's man's ex-wife.

So they work together.

They're so in love.

They're so cute.

His name is Rex something, right?

Yeah, you would recognize his face if you saw him.

He's the definition of a working working actor like you've seen him in your favorite tv show he's been in a bunch of movies but he's not like movie stars riba low-key is a man-eater

ruba gets around yeah go off queen and she's doing it like and no one's really noticing like it's not like that's her reputation like oh are you calling riba a slut and do you want and do you want people like to now start calling her a slut that's all i'm getting from you you're calling attention to it at all i am calling attention to it but it's not in a slutty she's literally marrying everyone it's like more

she's Elizabeth Taylor.

And I feel like she doesn't get the credit for that.

The seven husbands of Reba McIntyre.

Title.

Anyway, she said, we miss him.

We miss him every minute.

The kids are doing well.

They're all bonding together and hanging out with each other and taking it one day at a time.

We know God's got this.

Oh, that's so Reba.

Because he had other kids.

Outside of Kelly?

Yes.

Before or after?

Probably before.

Before.

Yeah, they're older.

So they're all going through this together.

Just wishing everyone well, truly.

Yeah, me as well.

Reba's a queen.

Yeah, she is.

Even though you're trying to slut shame her over here.

I literally, I'm trying to give her props.

I'm trying to give her props because I just feel like people like she's doing all this and like no one's noticing it, but I noticed the reba.

So what you're saying is that you want Reba McIntyre to join Amber Rose's next slut walk.

No.

I'm saying

that Reba McIntyre is the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation.

She doesn't get the credit.

Who is the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation?

Jennifer Lopez?

Ariana Grande?

Yeah.

There are a lot, but like, who's a celebrity who's always getting married?

Yeah, J-Lo at this point.

J-Lo.

Because Ariana Grande has been engaged

twice, once.

And she

married once.

Married once.

Engaged once.

Once.

That's not that crazy.

Very normal.

Well, Christina Hack.

Christina Hack.

Christina Hack El Musa Hall

is the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation.

HGTV queen.

Yeah.

But also Jennifer Lopez.

Yes, yes.

Are you ready for our next story?

It's some news you're going to be excited by.

Really?

Yeah, because Dakota and Elle Fanning

are on the cover of Vanity Fair and they're talking about their sisterhood and they are talking about the Nightingale.

They're talking actually about...

They are?

Yes, they talked about two exciting projects, one that I didn't know about, one being the Nightingale.

So they talked a lot about how like the start of their careers, they both are like, you know, Dakota, she really is like

the kid from Uptown Girl.

Like very simple.

She's like very brettoned up, like very precocious, always been that way.

And Elle is just like a lot more whimsical and like free-spirited.

And that's how they've always been.

And like growing up when they were forging their own careers, they really wanted to be like seen as different, which they succeeded at.

But I imagine it was really hard because they're twins.

Yeah.

They're twins.

But I don't even think of them similarly.

Right.

But now they say like now they're at a point in their careers where they want to merge and like do stuff together, but they've been waiting for the right thing and not just a role where they're each playing the same character, but like young and old.

Like they really wanted like a strong sister story.

And so they are fully aligned on the nightingale.

She said the reason why it's like taken so long is

they were supposed to go to, where were they filming?

Bulgaria, Belgium, right before the pandemic, Budapest.

That's where they were filming.

Pandemic hit.

They had to pause.

Then when it was resurrected, the filmmaker had to step in.

Like the filmmaker couldn't do it anymore.

So, they have someone new.

So, it was just like a bunch of admin.

Also, what I didn't realize about the movie is that Rhys Witherspoon will be producing it as well.

Oh, you know, when there's a book turned film or TV show and Rhys is involved, with the exception of Little Houses Everywhere Fires,

you're in good hands.

Yeah, you are in good hands.

So, they are taking it very seriously.

They're very excited and they like cherish the book as much as we do.

But, something else that they're working on is A24 required acquired the rights to Paris Hilton's memoir on behalf of the Fanning sisters because they will be playing Paris and Nikki in but you're kidding.

Yes, but we don't know who's playing who.

Let me think.

I think

L is Paris.

Paris.

I agree.

Because she's more like whimsical.

And Nikki is kind of serious.

Not serious.

But compared to Paris, she's just the more like leveled one.

Yeah.

Agreed.

Oh, man, I love that.

So that she was talking about her relationship with Paris and how, like, she's been talking to her.

They met on the set of Cat in the Hat.

The best fucking movie ever.

The best movie ever.

Wait, who met?

Dakota and Paris because Paris did a cameo and Dakota's in the movie.

Paris did a cameo?

I know Dakota's the little girl.

The little girl.

Yeah, I guess she did a cameo.

That's the best movie ever.

Seriously, Alec Balden's best work.

No, it's so good.

I've watched it a bunch recently because the kids were into Cat in the Hat.

It's a little mature, but like,

it's not for kids.

No, and even on the soundtrack, like one of the songs, it's like, you know, they're about to rhyme with ass but then he like stop yeah i like

turn on

yeah yeah so it's a little mature but it's really good and really funny i just want to say the vibe the vision that i'm seeing for the paris book with dakota and l is something directed by sophia coppola i just i think she needs to get involved yes also both girls have worked with mr and ms coppola francis ford and sophia so they have they have yeah they've worked with everyone

dakota and l dakota and l have worked with francis ford Coppola?

Yeah, one of them.

I don't know which one.

How do you know that?

It happened to be in this article.

Like, weirdly, because they were saying all the directors, Tarantino, Spielberg, Coppola's.

Oh, that's so weird.

They need to, like, seriously, it's a Sophia Coppola.

Like, she could do what she did with Bling Ring, you know?

Yeah.

Bling Ring was.

I'm just, like, so curious how they worked with Francis Ford Coppola.

Twixt.

Twixt.

Was an American horror film written, directed, and produced by Francis Ford Coppola, starring Elle.

There you go.

That's really crazy.

So the fanning sisters are doing big things

while also like remaining the most normal people in Hollywood.

They give such normal vibes.

They're also child stars.

I always have to remind myself that they're not related

to Mary Caden Ashley.

They give me such Mary Kate and Ashley vibes because they look like

Elizabeth James.

Yeah, Elizabeth Olson.

Elizabeth Olson, the James' James's brother I get like they're to me they're so intertwined but they're literally not at all no and even in this article like they know that they're wearing the row for their interview like they are yeah they I really like them I think they're good girls I think so too and this makes me more excited for the nightingale

and you know they just like we know them as actors and I feel like we don't really get glimpses into their personalities but when they do they just seem like fun loving sisters they seem really serious but I don't think that they are yeah I agree I think they're like very sisterly yeah I cannot wait for the Nightingale.

Everything I hear, I get like more and more confident.

I'm very protective over this book.

Yeah.

So I'm like, I'm kind of designed to hate it already because I'm so protective and I'm so close to it.

But everything I hear from casting to production, like I feel good about.

But just stick to the book, you know?

There's enough in the book that you don't have to like make up a new storyline.

To the book.

I feel like sometimes they feel like in the books, like there's just not enough story, like plot lines, characters, so they add to like make a movie, but like there's enough.

It's a chunky book.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story, which is some more new project news?

Yeah.

And the one that I fear that you might not muster up a fuck about, but I actually have a fuck to give today.

Okay.

Let's give it like Claudia's fuckometer, okay?

Demi Lovato is announcing her ninth studio album called It's Not That Deep.

She shares a release date.

She just put out two singles called Here All Night and Fast.

What does Claudia how many fucking fuckometer?

Ready?

So you're a little above zero?

I would say I'm like 30%, you know?

30%.

Okay.

I care.

I care deeply about the reincarnation, the renaissance, the renewal of Demi Lobato.

Will I be searching Waiting Till Midnight streaming?

Probably not.

But if it's good, like and it makes its way to me via TikTok or the radio, I'll be really happy for her.

But I'm not going to be a part of the movement, you know?

I just want to say her one of her singles, Here All Night, made its way to me.

Like I saw it on Instagram and then it was on my release radar.

So I listened again.

And I already have it.

Like, in my, I can sing it.

Like, love that.

I'm not, I don't know the words, but I know the tune.

Oh, get it, girl.

It's, ooh,

it's, like, good.

And I'm here for this era.

Don't forget, like, she has an amazing voice.

And what's so funny is even on this song, it's been 10 years, you know, multiple lives.

She's been different people.

She's died.

She's come back yep she literally literally um

she sounds the exact same it's sunny with a chance singing i saw the artwork and i actually thought the artwork was quite well done powerful i saw a behind the scenes of it too because it looks like it's this crazy image where all these things are going around it looks clearly ai generated who would you know put that in the chat

and i saw behind the scenes it's totally like real um and i thought it was kind of profound you know so i am here for this era I will listen.

I will learn.

And I am.

I am rooting for Demi.

I have always rooted for Demi.

Yeah.

She said about the album, this music is a perfect reflection of where I'm at today.

I had such an incredible time making this album, and it was such a freeing experience to let loose and have fun with it.

With my past eras, I often wrote cathartic music about heavy topics that I needed to process.

When I got back in the studio this time around, those songs just weren't resonating anymore because I'm not in that place in life.

I'm happy.

I'm in love.

And I just want to enjoy life and have fun.

I realized it's not that deep anymore.

And that became the ethos for this album.

It's not that deep is meant for late nights and dance floors.

And I can't wait for you all to dance with me.

Is that the name of the album?

It's not that deep?

Yeah.

Oh, I love that because I do feel like, and yes, it was totally reflective of what was going on in her life.

And that's great.

And I think we got some amazing songs from it.

But like, yes, let's be happy.

Happiness is everything.

Joy, light.

Love that.

It reminds me of like a better take on Katy Perry's new album, 143, where she was like, it's just about the rhythm and the heartbeat.

Like, and it's like, that's a bad, you're making me hate it because I hate that.

I'm saying a a better take on it because she was doing like all she was doing the most and then she's like i'm stripping it down we're making hits again but they were like hips devoid of substance hits devoid of substance um and it had the dr luke scandal and i just i don't think it was like a done well but it is the same sort of concept that demi's yeah but i think she's the right person to do it in the right time I'm excited for her and I'm really happy for her and I want it to go well because like I've loved this like cooking TikTok era that she's in but she is a generational talent yeah she has one of the most amazing singing voices, like seriously, of anyone out there right now.

She's on the same level as Ariana.

And I want that for her.

Yeah.

She could have been Alphaba.

Oh my God.

She so could have been Alphaba.

Yeah.

If Disney back in the day like did like the kids' version, it would have been her and Ari.

100%.

That's funny.

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Our fifth and final story: Love Islands, Iris and TJ step out hand in hand at New York Fashion Week following news that Iris and Pepe had broken up.

And now...

Because he cheated on her.

Yeah.

Seemingly weeks later, respectfully, Iris and TJ are back together.

So I'm feeling a lot of ways, right?

Because I loved Pepe and Iris together.

And I also, when TJ got sent home, I was really sad for Iris because I was shipping them too.

And so I was holding space for both.

Now, my only issue is that a lot of TJ's post-island behavior, specifically his social media behavior, like has not been my favorite.

It's made him a lot less attractive to me.

It's just like giving thirsty, especially, because he was making content with like what Nick Fiel very, you know, beautifully called the leftovers.

Like when the island was still going on and then like the Casa Amor people, he got a lot of shit for saying that.

And I was like, no, it's perfect.

While the island was still happening, but the people who got sent home and then like the Casa Amor rejects, we were all like in a house together making content with like Vanna and that guy,

what was his name, who told Ahuda that she was dominant.

Oh, crazy.

You like to be dominant.

Like with that crazy smile.

Like

TJB.

Yeah, he was on episode for three seconds.

That guy, Zach.

TJ got like looped into that because he was just like home.

But he was just with like Austin.

Yeah, agreed.

Yeah.

You're not making it better, Jackie.

Austin was a part of that too.

And Jeremiah.

I know.

Jeremiah got looped in with the rejects, even though he was like a core, even on the rejects.

And even because he got rejected from the island, like all the islanders who didn't make it to the end, like started to hang out as the season was going on.

Like, yes, it got loser-y, but, like, not everyone there was a loser.

No, with the exception of Jeremiah, like, yeah, and so TJ, like, rejected that, like, yeah, he's on the fence.

But Jeremiah, like, didn't make that much content.

I didn't even think, I forgot about Jeremiah because he didn't make that much content with them, which was smart on his part.

TJ, like, went full force.

Like, they all like were hanging in a house together.

Like, it was just bad.

So everyone who, everyone who came back from the island, like, at the very end, or even like Ace and Shelly, the last like two, three episodes, they're the cool kids to me.

And so Iris is that

and TJ is that.

I understand.

As someone who shipped both Iris and TJ and then Iris and Pepe, mostly just because I like Iris, this is the natural order of things.

Like she had to continue her relationship with Pepe.

They like were there for each other, attracted to each other, got them through the end of days, and then see the relationship through at home.

I didn't think that it was going to go on forever.

And naturally, whenever that ends, she should pick back up with TJ, who she was in the middle of something with.

So I love this.

I, again, don't think that this is forever either, but like, no, she has to see these things through.

And I'm having such a, like a confute, like.

Post, I really don't care that much anymore, even though at one point this show was the most important thing in my life.

It's just funny how that works.

And, you know, they all go on to like be influencers and do brand deals.

And some of them have really broken through.

Like Olandria's like the doll of Fashion Week.

She's getting paparazzied everywhere she goes.

She's really broken the barrier from like influencer reality star to celebrity.

And Nick is like just there because he's her boyfriend.

Um, and I just want to say, like, my feelings have not changed about them whatsoever.

I'm so happy for Olandria.

Like, this is what she deserves.

She's literally the most sickening, beautiful, kind woman.

Like, I love that she's getting this treatment.

She needs to drop Nick ASAP.

He's such a hanger-on-era.

He's such a user.

He's a user.

And the fact that, like, her and her fans are shipping them, like, that's not what's in Olandria's best interest.

It's really not.

No, his name is Ick.

Literally.

I find it so interesting that like Shelly and Ace have really been sort of like written out of, I don't see them anywhere.

And I'm not actively seeking out Olandria's stuff.

It's making its way because she is a part of popular culture now.

She is a celebrity.

Why isn't Shelly getting the same treatment?

Like where is Shelly in all this?

I don't know.

It's just interesting like who got there and who didn't.

Yeah, and like Iris is even doing her own thing, even though she wasn't like the most popular but she's like victoria's secret and she's getting like great brands and her stepping out with tj at fashion week was like photographed by everyone um yeah shelly and they seem to be like more low-key i think they kind of like

no i don't think it's a choice i'm letting you know i don't know they seemed at the reunion like over it

Yes, and I'm really like everyone else

plays into it and they do all the podcasts and the press and like these two just I think they really like each other.

I i think their relationship is real and all the nonsense like i think they're just a little um mature over it and over it yeah that's crazy because ace is like the youngest one on the show i know but he he was always even if you didn't agree with like the things he was doing like he's always like very principled in like his feelings and like the like his thoughts i was just surprised by that uh yeah

I haven't been taking as much stock, but I agree that like I see them come across my desk sometimes, just like doing stuff campaigns, whatever.

Haven't seen Ace and Shelley as much except like going to Disney okay and that was the second the show was over anyone could go to Disney I saw them also going to Disney that was like the day the show ended what has happened since then and I just think they keep going to Disney but like you could I could do that you they went more than once I just saw a lot of Disney

I think it was this one trip where they made a lot of content

well it's paying off

um should we dive into deer toasters our weekly advice segment where we try to help out the girls in need to try

and i just want to say we have gotten so many submissions.

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Like, need to know information.

We can't be reading.

And then we get good ones, but like, I can't read them.

They're too long, you know?

We could put them through chat to summarize.

We could, but like, then you're making extra work for us and just like rewrite your submission.

Okay.

That's true.

All right, first up.

Dear toasters, I need advice on my feral mother-in-law.

I'm currently pregnant.

She calls just about every day and will say, how much weight have you gained?

No matter what I answer, she'll say, oh, wow, I only gained 13 pounds.

She's adamant about being in the delivery room with me.

And I'm thinking, absolutely not.

I have my baby shower coming up and she's been a pill with it, being with it being near her birthday and how inconvenient it is for her.

What?

She just made her coworkers have a baby shower for her.

She FaceTimed me to show me all the stuff she got for her baby.

Am I being overly sensitive from the pregnancy hormones, hormones or is it just absurd that she had a shower for herself?

That is absurd.

And I also don't understand like the intention.

Cause I imagine like some mother-in-laws when like they're having, especially like their first grandchild, like they're so excited.

They call every day because they just want to know like what's going on in there and they just want to be a part of it.

But then for her to like not want you to have your baby shower on her birthday is like, you would, I thought she was so excited about everything.

Not that she's being like resistant.

So it's in Congress.

What are her intentions here?

It seems like she just wants to be a problem.

I do want to say her only gaining 13 pounds is a sleigh.

sleigh.

And if that were me, like I'd be talking about it when I'm a grandmother, you know, until that day.

That I actually don't care so much.

Everything else, throwing a baby shower with your coworkers.

I'm surprised her coworkers would enable such crazy ass behavior.

Shame on them too.

No, you're 100% right.

It's important to ask these questions because when you are so hormonal, like you feel things so strongly.

And the idea that you could be overreacting, like it's not even a question.

Like, no, I'm not.

So I appreciate you reaching out.

No, no, this bitch is certifiable.

She's crazy.

And at

this point in your life, like you are entitled to be selfish.

And I don't even think you're being selfish.

If you don't want her in the delivery room, that's absolutely your right.

Do not get pressured into having her there because you don't want to seem X, Y, or Z.

Like, do not.

Yeah.

And you could

say, because I feel like after COVID, like you could only have one person in the delivery room during COVID.

And then I think they got up to two, at least in the hospitals that I gave birth in, but you could say, like, we can only have one person in the delivery.

Like, we can't have guests,

right?

Yeah.

Life in your teeth.

Yeah.

Watch to like find a website where it says you can.

No, no.

You are the priority here.

Other people's feelings.

If she wants to have her crazy ass coworkers throw her a crazy ass shower, whatever.

You're not there.

You also like, you become increasingly more busy when you get pregnant and then have kids.

Like, you don't need to answer all of her calls.

Yeah.

Yeah.

People, like, having direct access to you is a privilege.

And if people don't respect that privilege, then they lose that access.

And that's fine.

You send her a text.

Sorry, we're doing bath time.

Talk to you later.

We're doing bath time.

Pierre.

No, you're not.

People get access to you and then they think, like,

that they have that forever.

They take advantage.

So you don't.

Yeah.

Or you can say, I'm sorry, I'm going down for a nap.

Yeah, not a great time.

You don't have to answer everybody's calls.

I feel like once you make that realization, it's kind of liberating.

Yeah.

And you don't also have to, just because somebody called you doesn't mean you have to call them back.

Yeah, just

like catch up later.

I hate people who like refuse to communicate via like email or text.

Like they just want to talk on the phone.

That's a privilege.

Not very few have the right.

And every day to talk on the phone is like

nobody has.

Yeah, except unless you're like Jaxie.

My sister.

Right.

All right.

Next up.

Hey, you guys.

Am I a bitch?

Such an important question.

I just turned 29.

My husband asked me what I wanted for my birthday.

I said, I don't know.

Surprised me.

On the morning of my birthday, two Amazon packages arrived.

He told me not to open them until the evening when he was home from work.

He was so excited for me to open these packages.

Package one was a meat thermometer.

Package two was an umbrella.

Admittedly, I was underwhelmed by the gifts.

I gritted my teeth, smiled, and thanked him for the presents.

Am I being an ungrateful wench?

I am looking for advice on how I should handle the situation and hopefully prevent it from happening again.

You have to, you have to, the situation has to be handled because we got here not by accident, right?

Things don't just happen.

You've clearly in the the past, and I'm not blaming you whatsoever.

Men do need to be trained when it comes to gift giving.

Very few men just show up knowing exactly what to do.

I feel as though, in the past, you've either put like not a lot of pressure, not a lot of emphasis, and you've accepted less than gifts.

And that's how we ended up with an umbrella.

Yeah, I will say, you probably thought he crushed because you probably really did need a meat thermometer.

Like, he probably noticed that you like never had the meat thermometer, or maybe like

you're undercooked,

and that like you needed an umbrella.

So, I feel like he's like really proud that he's been paying attention to your needs.

But birthday gifts are not about needs.

It's wants.

And like for you to say surprise me when obviously he has no training in this field.

Yeah.

You should have given a little more direction.

Now, I'm not going to victim blame here.

No, again, we're not blaming you, but you saying surprise me to a man who's definitely not good at giving gifts.

I don't know what you expected to happen.

I'm sure you weren't thinking we'd fall as far as an umbrella and a meat thermometer, but we're here now.

The circumstances are dire.

Like we need to turn it around.

Yeah, you need to be more specific next time.

Either say, like, jewelry or handbag or send the link.

Yeah, so I'm, Ben is an amazing gift giver.

He's always been pretty good, but I've definitely gotten him to the place where I no longer need to request things.

But over the course of the year, I'll say, like, I do wish I had like a matching pair of earrings for this necklace.

You know, like you say things, you drop hints.

Men are really not smart.

And it's nice, like, we want to live in a world where he notices that I need, it's not going to happen.

Okay.

We have to put in the work.

And it doesn't really make it any less romantic if, like, you had to say, I want these.

Here is the link direct to shop.

No, because, okay, it's not romantic.

So you say nothing.

And then you get a meat thermometer.

That's really not romantic.

Right.

I do think the meat thermometer is a message and the umbrella is the gift.

Or he always sees her like taking the chicken out, opening a piece to see what it is.

Like, and he's just noticing like things about her that, like.

Actually, you know what?

He does sound thoughtful.

Like, there is a lot of potential.

Yeah, like maybe you're the type of girl who has to like cut her chicken in half before serving it because she's worried that it's undercooked.

And then it's like he sees you coming home so many times without

soaking wet because like maybe he is noticing.

So like the roots are there.

Like we can make this work.

But like he could also notice that you needed a meat thermometer and get that for you, not for your birthday.

Like that's not a birthday present.

It's just a kitchen tool.

Right.

These are gifts that would be like so thoughtful if just on a Tuesday you came home and there was a new umbrella and he's like, well, I see like you are always running in from the rain.

Like that's so cute.

Thankful.

In the context of a birthday, it's shameful.

on a tuesday it's so thoughtful maybe just play this episode for him as a way to tell him like you actually sound amazing and really cute and thoughtful um and i just wanted a little more i'm a firm believer that no matter your budget like you can make somebody feel special on their birthday it's not a money thing

it's I'm sorry, like, there's no world in which an umbrella or a meat thermometer on a special occasion is going to make someone feel special, even if it's a diamond encrusted meat thermometer.

Like, it's just,

it's not the vibe.

No, it's not.

and i don't think you're wrong for feeling the way that you do but i don't think you've got a bad man no i think you've got a good one actually just a little misguided right even good men need to be trained and guided and again i'm not blaming you but you are part of the reason why we got here because he didn't he didn't know that if because ben knows if he ever on a special occasion and i i always say and i mean this like i don't need a gift if there was like i mean i'd get him a present for our anniversary tomorrow and i'm not expecting a gift like you don't need a gift for everything like okay

But if you're going to get it, it has to be good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because then I got excited.

I opened the box and I think there's like a cardio bracelet in there, you know?

And there's like a time for everything too.

I used to like really want like bigger gifts.

They were very important to me.

And now I, they're actually not at all.

Same.

Like really gift giving has like waned right now, except hopefully when we have a big moment, like I will get a gift.

But like, I don't know.

It's funny.

I used to put so much emphasis on them.

So it's not like it's going to be this way forever, but it was important to you in this moment and you didn't get what you wanted.

And that's a

lot of sucks.

It's a little like, and that's that's happened to me before.

And like, that's like

a bug.

And you hate to complain because you don't want to be like Varouka Salt, like a brat,

but

it matters.

It does.

And it's a lot of people's gift-giving,

what is it?

Love language.

Yeah, it is, was one of mine, but I think I've grown out of it.

Well, and then I think for me, I'm like very much in like my fiscally responsible era.

So like when I don't need anything and you're dropping money on something, like it makes, that makes me annoyed.

Yeah.

It's like sweet, but return it.

Yeah.

All right, our third and final is kind of similar.

Dear Jackson Claude, I've been dating my boyfriend and constantly been bringing up engagement and getting married.

The other day, he mentioned to me that he was waiting to be able to afford the engagement ring and that was why he was taking so long.

I've been thinking recently about just giving him the money for my ring so that we can be engaged already, but more importantly, so that I can have the ring that I want.

For reference, I make nearly double what he does.

Am I crazy or would this be acceptable?

How do you think I should go about the conversation with him?

Is there a world in which I could anonymously give him the cash specifically to be used for the ring?

Anything helps.

Thanks.

So

I love, like, I see it.

I like it.

I buy it.

I get it.

I do worry that he's like using the money thing as an excuse to stall.

Cause like some men, it's like a little convenient.

It's like, well, I'm not ready to get married and I make less money.

So I'm not ready.

So I worry that if you give him a very practical solution, oh, you don't have the money here.

I have it.

I worry that will uncover

something else.

So just know that that could be a possibility.

Yeah.

Now, let's say it's not.

Let's say he just really, he really wants you, but he doesn't have the money.

And you say, listen, I want this ring.

I can afford it.

Like here.

What do you think about that?

I think

a couple times in life, you have to be more hands-off.

And I think that this is one of them.

I think the next time it came up, if it came up about the money again, like you could throw out there, like, I'd be happy to like chip in to get like the ring that I want.

But like doing it all yourself, yourself, like just marry yourself, Sue Sylvester.

Like,

like,

let him participate in this and like do things in the way that he wants.

And also, maybe he was proposing to you in two days and he just came up with an excuse.

Like, you have to kind of let them do this.

It's a very big thing.

And it's like, if he can't get down, get a ring, get down on a knee, propose to you, like, he's not going to be much of a partner.

So, like, no, and by the way, you are setting yourself up to get a meat thermometer as a gift.

Like, you're getting

everything for him.

You're setting yourself up for a one-woman wedding.

Like you need to let him be a human being.

And it's so less.

And I think even if the ring that he gets for you with his money isn't exactly what you want, like you can always upgrade down the line, but like it's very emasculating, I think.

But it's not even just like about like his ego or anything.

It's like, this is something that he's meant to do.

Just like let him do it.

Because honestly.

And then correct it, but don't like come in.

Like, don't micromanage it before it's even happened plus you also run the risk of like maybe he's not ready like you have to just let this process happen naturally yeah

you also um could i just want to say because you sound like maybe the type

you could propose to him

and i know you're focused on like your own ring but i think you're more focused on like wanting to get married and so i you know guys know how i feel about it but like some situations call for it like what are you are you the type of girl because you sound like very sort of

organized.

I feel like if there was more, what you need is actually more transparency where, like, you go ring shopping together, you see what he can afford, you see how much the ring that you want costs, and you say to him, This is my dream ring.

I'd be happy to contribute.

Like, I feel like I can imagine couples where like the girl pays for the ring, like celebrity couple, you know, like, yeah, of course.

Um, Debbie Lovato and Max Ehrlich.

I think there's like radical transparency with the finances of like, I expect this ring.

I see you can only do this one.

Let me just help you out.

Not like him saying, we can't get engaged right now because I can't afford a ring.

Cause that's never what like someone would say.

They would say, I can't get you the ring that you want.

So I'm going to get you this ring.

And that's when you can step in and say, I can, we can upgrade.

And also, I would love to know what's more important to you, getting engaged or getting the ring that you want.

Because

if it's an option today to get engaged with the ring he can afford, the thing about rings is like you really can, and everybody does.

Like Joanna Gaines just upgraded her ring.

Like

it's really, it's something you trade in.

You can keep as you evolve, as you grow, as your businesses grow.

So, what's more important to you?

Like, seriously, are you like ring-obsessed, which is okay?

It's not a shallow thing.

It's an important thing.

Or are you okay with like a less, lesser, smaller ring for now?

And it's something you guys work towards together.

I just think it's a little bit of a red flag that he said, I can't afford a ring.

Like, he could get you a ring.

Oh, did he say that?

Or he can't afford the ring that you wanted?

He said, He can't afford a ring, period.

No, he said he was waiting to be able to afford my engagement ring.

Oh, well then yeah you could step in and

my

what did she mean my like my dream yeah look i think she i think that he knows what she wants the other day he mentioned to me that he was waiting to be able to afford my engagement ring and that was why he was taking so long i've been thinking recently about giving him the money for my ring so that we can just be engaged ready but more importantly so that i can have the ring that i want i think you could float the idea

But he might have been saying that as a way to get more time.

Buy time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just Jackie's advice is sound.

Like, you do run the risk of being like crazy Sue Sylvester.

Yeah.

And you have to like

let the person be a person and like experience and go through.

And it's hard, you know, it takes a lot to like muster up the courage to like go into a ring shop.

And like, you know, and they should have that where they're like really like committing to every decision.

Because it's a lot, it's a big decision, you know, and just like taking it all out.

I just like, you just get half a man walking down the aisle.

Yeah.

And this is obviously something like

only someone like me could say because I'm now married and like being engaged.

Yeah.

It's like something far in the past for me.

But like a ring is just a ring.

Like it really, what matters is like getting married more so than the jewelry.

Like getting the man is just as big of a prize.

Like it's hard to get a guy, you know?

Yeah.

So that's just my two cents.

But yes, it's easy for me to say now that I'm in a different phase of life.

But there was a time when like the most important thing mattered.

Like the cut, the halo.

Like, you know, so exciting.

It is, it is.

I'm obviously just not there.

It's the best piece of jewelry that you will have owned until that point in your life.

It says so much about like your personal style and who you are.

And like it does, it does.

But I think part of the wisdom that comes with age is like, you know, it's not everything.

But it also doesn't mean that it has to be the most expensive.

Like you can have a beautiful ring that's like unique and unique to you.

That's, it's not just about money.

It's also just about like style and how you wear it.

Yeah.

Agreed.

And the meaning behind it.

I know you want the meaning to be like he worked and bought me this ring.

Or not.

Or it's like I want a big hunk and rock.

Which I also totally love and respect.

Judgment.

Zara.

And I say that as a girl whose jewelry doesn't fit her.

So I don't even know.

Well, that's the other thing.

In a few years, God willing.

The goal, right?

It won't even fit.

The goal is for them to not fit.

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