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The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
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Good morning, girlies.
It's the toast.
It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.
It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.
We'll start your day off swirly.
It's the toast.
I sound amazing.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday.
Hope everybody's having a par delicious definition.
Make the boys go loco kind of morning already.
I've been making the boys go loco all morning long.
I think you've been making yourself go loco.
Jackie, you're not saying it with the right intonation.
It's loco.
Well, I'm not a tostada, so like that would be cultural appropriation.
You, that's the understatement of a century.
You are not a tostada.
Actually, I can't believe we never shared this.
Over the summer, I discovered the craziest thing about my sister, Jackie.
Obviously, like, we actually speak Spanish quite well.
We grew up speaking it.
Obviously, took it in school and stuff.
And I overheard over the summer Jackie speaking Spanish.
And let me tell you, like, question mark?
She does not speak Spanish.
She says Spanish words in the most American accent you can think of.
So you would say, you know, Buenas Tardes, Jackie.
No, Jackie says, Buenas Tardes.
Yeah,
I pronounce every letter.
Someone was asking me something.
I was like, yo, no, Recuerdo.
And I said, Recuerdo?
She's so, you speak more American American than you do when you speak English.
I know.
I'm just like trying to pronounce everything, even though it's
every sit of how you're supposed to speak Spanish.
And the thing is, like, I actually have a lot of words.
Like, I was pulling out, you know, palabras left and right.
Mochilas?
Mochilas.
Don't forget the mochilas.
She, yeah, she, like, she was very smart in school, so she, like, learned a lot.
But the accent, and for me, it's the opposite.
I actually don't know a lot of Spanish words, but I have the flame.
I love them.
You have the flame.
Like, I was born to speak the language, you know?
Like, you were born to speak Espanol.
Yeah, how do you say language in Spanish?
Linguista?
That sounds right.
It does sound right, but I feel like it's not.
Say language.
Say language in Spanish.
I don't know.
I just use Pilar.
Oh, no.
It's idioma.
Oh, that's classic.
Idioma.
Or as Jackie would say, idioma.
Idioma.
Yeah.
No fun fact about me, I am who I am, you know?
And she's gonna pronounce pronounce all the letters, even the ones that are intended to be silent.
Right.
And I just, I don't know.
People talk about this all the time.
Like, sometimes it's offensive when people like put on an accent.
We've all seen that sketch.
Right.
Right.
Tapas a quespacho.
It's not offensive.
It's so annoying.
It's annoying, but it's also like, who are you?
Like, stop.
Yeah, sorry.
I respect the language.
But, I don't know, it just feels like a costume.
I'm just being me speaking another language.
I hope you can understand.
Literally.
I am being me, Tambien, you know?
Well, you are a tostrada.
Correct.
Oh, sorry.
Si.
Si se puede.
Oh, si se puede.
I'm glad you brought that up because you know what I can do?
Si se puede.
Oh, I thought you were going to kick your leg or something.
No, actually, and I never feel more like in touch with my like
Hispanic accent than when I say si se puede, you know?
Yeah.
America Ferreira ate with that.
She did.
She left no crumbs.
Sero.
Sero.
How was your weekend?
We actually haven't chatted that much this weekend.
I pretty much.
I called you late last night.
We actually had such a funny experience because I called Claudia.
Oh my God.
This was seriously funny.
You ever experienced a conversation like outside of your body?
I called Claudia.
And as I was calling her, I was like sitting up Ramrod straight and it was giving like, I have an announcement.
And I was literally thinking like, and wait.
And you like called and didn't say anything.
You just like looked at me.
And I was like, oh, wait.
Am I supposed to be?
And I, it literally went like this.
Oh, you're pregnant.
Oh, wait.
Like, yeah you're literally now it's pregnant I literally thought you were calling to tell me like that's how you would call me to tell me you were pregnant Claudia when I called you and I saw myself in the camera I'm like I look like I'm about to tell her I'm pregnant and then I thought to myself it would be funny if I called her and said I'm pregnant because you guys I literally went
she literally did but it was like it was just crazy that we both had the same thought
you were being weird I guess I was it was just because I was sitting funny And you didn't say anything.
You looked at me with like this little smirk.
And I was like, oh, wait, what?
You're pregnant?
And then I was like, oh, yeah, no, you are.
You have been for nine months like yeah yeah so that was funny no but so we chatted last night but like not about our weekends at a glance no and the only thing i really have to share from my weekend is all the tv i watch like i was sad i watched
Love Thy Nator in full.
As did I.
Let's recap it at the end, shall we?
Yep.
Great.
I also watched Charlie Sheen's documentary because like Ben and I were having a hard time deciding on something on Friday night.
And this was before he became obsessed with Love Thy Nator.
So at first it was like a show I had to watch on my own.
So we watched the Charlie Sheen documentary.
It's two parts.
And I'm like not
involved.
I'm not involved.
Like I don't know really.
I just know the Denise of it all, right?
Do you even though?
No.
Right.
She was in the documentary, by the way.
It was amazing.
Like, first of all.
So I remember like him becoming like viral for like being on crack, right?
But I didn't realize how like the entire nation like was obsessed with him while he was on crack like they loved the crack version so much so that he went on tour and did like a cracked out show
hashtag and people like hashtag winning yes duh winning and let me tell you like charlie sheen the man is actually very funny so when he like went on crack and like did his show like i'm sure it was hilarious but he was in the documentary like being himself and the way he just storytales is funny and there's so much sheen first of all i think i i knew but i had forgotten that he's brothers with emilio estevez
no but also who's who's the other Sheen from Twilight?
From Twilight?
Michael Sheen.
He's not
great.
His dad.
Oh, is he Volturi?
Yeah, his dad is Michael Sheen.
Michael Sheen is the head of...
Michael Sheen's in Twilight?
Yeah, he's head of Volturi.
Mike Sheen.
No, he's not the head of Volturi.
Yeah, he is.
That's his dad.
He's 56.
No, that Martin Sheen.
Sorry, Martin Sheen.
Martin Sheen.
And Michael Sheen is just a Sheen from Twilight, and he's not related to Charlie, apparently.
He's not.
Oh, that's so weird.
I forgot about Michael Sheen.
Sorry.
Martin Sheen is from the West Wing.
He's like the biggest actor from his time.
He was in like a million movies.
He had five kids, two of which became really famous, Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen.
Why do they have different names?
Oh, my God.
So Martin, no.
Charlie Sheen's real name is Carlos Estevez.
Okay.
When Emilio got famous first, he became Emilio Estevez.
They kept saying Estevez, so I think I'm saying it wrong.
You should say it right.
I'll say Estevez.
Yeah, Charlie was saying Estevez.
He said when he became famous, I think he wanted to differentiate himself a little bit from his brother.
And he was like, I was so jealous of my brother when he got famous.
And that really catapulted him into wanting to be a movie star.
So he just changed his whole name.
He said Charlie Sheen.
He wanted Sheen
from Martin.
And it's crazy, like Martin, Sheen, and why was Emilio Estevez?
Why were they the Esteves if their dad is Sheen?
I'm not sure.
They didn't answer that.
They just had like a lot of names thrown around.
Okay.
Okay.
I think maybe Martin.
No, actually, I don't know.
So Emilio Estevez and Martin Sheen are not in the documentary, although they're like ever present in the entire story.
Cause like Martin Sheen is just, I didn't know much about Martin Sheen.
He's this amazing dad, right?
Like he's still really close with Charlie after all they've been through and was there for him like the entire time.
So I forgot about his like Nepo part of his life.
Like I only really knew.
the Denise of it all, honestly.
Oh man, what a crazy story.
Now, the only thing that like got me a little
miffed, it's like I knew he was like a druggie and like, whatever.
He didn't hurt anybody.
He was just like on drugs and never showed up to two and a half men.
And two and a half men was like the biggest show.
And when it got canceled, everyone was upset.
They replaced Ash and Kutcher.
Like nobody liked it.
Yeah, I knew all of that.
And I was like, I feel like there's something more nefarious going on.
So then at the end of the documentary, which is just like a really good documentary about his life, all the crack he did.
He had his drug dealer.
They had Sean Penn in it.
They had Heidi Fleis, the famous escort.
And she only went to prison because Charlie ratted her out.
Like there was a lot.
They got everyone.
It was really good.
And then they're like, okay, we need everyone to leave the room like on set.
And he's like, all right, Charlie, we're going to ask you some things like you've never publicly spoken about.
He was accused of two things.
One, he has HIV.
And
I guess like he got sued later on in life for like giving it or not
disclosing.
And he was like, well, it's true.
I didn't disclose it to partners, but like I wasn't running around.
I never gave it to anyone.
So like a lot of people, like he said, these girls would come to my house and and they knew I had HIV because like they saw all my meds everywhere.
And so, like, they would like
use me as bait to.
And so, I was like, okay, well, that's like kind of crazy to not tell people you have HIV.
But, you know, all in all, you didn't give it to me.
And just assume that they saw your meds and knew what that meant.
But he said, he's like, I knew at the time, like, I couldn't give it to anyone because I was asymptomatic and, you know, whatever.
Like, he knew.
He wasn't contagious at the time.
And then I was like, I feel like there's something more nefarious about Charlie Sheen.
I can't remember what it is, besides, you know, Brooke Mueller, drugs, crack, doing crack.
And And it was that the child star, Corey
Haim.
Let me just make sure.
I know there's two child stars, Corey Haim and Corey Heimman.
Corey Feldman is like going on to Answer the Stars.
Right.
Corey Haim alleged that like years, years ago on the film of, on the set of the film Lucas, Charlie Sheen raped him.
And Charlie was like, he answered it very directly.
He was like, I literally didn't.
He's like, and he was kind of convincing.
I was like.
Is Corey Haim still with us?
Yes.
And he said that, like, who's the one who passed?
I'm not sure.
Maybe it was Corey Haim.
He's like, I never did.
And he was like, so much so that Corey Hames' mother came out and said, like, it's impossible that Charlie Sheen could have done this.
Like, he was really, and I don't know.
Like, if you, he didn't need to make a documentary, right?
Like, nobody really is like needing to hear from Charlie Sheen.
So if you have these like crazy allegations, unless you're really innocent, like, why would you even?
attack it head on.
Yeah.
But up until that point, I was like kind of rooting for Charlie.
And then after that, I was like, oh, I didn't know that like that was.
He's no longer with us, Corey Heem.
He passed away in 2010.
And then the last thing they said when there was like this closed set,
which I thought was really crazy, because I'm like, well, up until this point, I don't know why he would have, you know, done that.
He's not gay.
Like he, all the women, he was married three times.
Denise was in the documentary.
But then he goes on to say, like, you know, when I was on crack, and this is something I used to be really ashamed of, but like literally, who cares?
He's like, crack and the type of crack I was doing makes you hypersexual, just makes you like very, very sexual.
And like, yeah, I was having sex with men, and like, that's something I, and I, he's like, I think that's something I used to be ashamed of.
Like, I don't care anymore.
So, like, oh, well, that's crazy to share.
Right after you're discussing that allegation.
I don't know.
The whole thing, I was inclined to believe him.
But then after that, I was just like,
I'm meeting people, you know?
Well, which people, Corey or Charlie?
No, no, sorry.
You and I are the elk of believers.
Like, I don't know.
I really get Hoodway.
I really take people at their word and when I probably shouldn't.
I know.
And the whole time he was so
genuine, right?
Like you didn't have to sit down for this documentary.
He was so open.
And if he really had like true demons, I can't imagine him sitting down and producing his own documentary.
Like, I don't know.
And you're right.
I do take people at their word.
And I'm very easily like swayed by people.
And he does have this like movie star sort of gina sequa.
I they just saved that allegation to the very end.
Up until that point, I was like, oh, what happened to Charlie Sheen?
It's so sad.
And Raheem's no longer here.
So he can say what he wants.
There's no way to really know.
That's actually true.
Just say it.
It was a really good documentary.
Bet enjoyed it as well.
Like, they really got, and when they cut to Heidi Fleis, famous Madam.
Was it like the feeling when Adriana sat down?
In the.
Correct.
Correct.
And I also saw the Downtown Abbey movie on Friday.
I know.
Don't spoil anything, but just top of top line, how was it?
I was really happy that the theater was packed with exclusively geriatrics.
Like it was such, like, it was hilarious.
It was amazing.
Like, they don't do anything bad, even though the movies, not all of them have been like the best.
It's all just like one big episode.
And I think a lot of people are like, it's called Downtown Abbey, the grand finale, but like, it's not, you know, they're always, but they did really tie it up with like a montage.
Yeah.
They could always squeeze another one out.
You know, we got them kids now.
Yeah.
The kids were barely in it.
I thought the premise of this film was that Mary goes to America.
Okay.
Or like the family goes to America.
And it wasn't.
It all took place like at downtown, which is great.
But it did make me think we need a movie where they, because they're tied to America.
Because then the movie that they would make is literally Gilded Age.
Gilded Age.
Like the good version.
Yeah, because Paul Giamatti, who plays Cora's brother, he comes over from New York.
So like the movies are really about.
New York in a sense.
Yeah.
I thought they went to America and I was like more excited about that plot.
So I think I just need like the downtown, maybe a Q Lab, like a movie where the Guild, where they stay at Carrie Kuhn's house Yeah, the timing is in a hundred because they're like 1930s now and gilded ages earlier than that, but there's definitely some crossover to be had Yeah, they could stay at like, you know something.
Yeah, it was really good.
It was fun To go to the movies.
I went to the movies this weekend, and I did not see downtown Abbey, unfortunately, but we did something really fun, something new.
We took the kids to a movie because Toy Story 30th anniversary.
It's the 30th anniversary of Toy Story.
Congrats.
I love your cake, Toy Story.
And Olivia was taking her kids because she said, like, she likes going to the movies once in a while with her kids.
She says it's so fun.
And I'm like, you know, so anti-screen time.
So I was like really nervous.
But like it was in the afternoon on Saturday.
It storms here every afternoon.
Like it's hurricane season.
So like it's a nice indoor activity.
So I was like, okay, like we'll try it.
It's Toy Story.
You know, it's one of the oldies.
And it was so fabulous.
It was so cute to take them to a movie.
The only unfortunate part was that like I had to watch Toy Story.
I know.
I'm thinking like, can you leave them there with Zach and go see Downtown Abbey?
I wouldn't even want to.
Plus the runtime was actually pretty short.
Like for compared to like what we're used to now sitting in the movies for like three hours.
Three hours.
It was like an hour 15 max.
So it was like the perfect amount of time before they got like stir crazy, but they were really into it the whole time.
I've never like watched Toy Story with such a close eye, but like Woody.
The Woody, the woe.
Jealous Wench.
Oh, jealous of Buzz.
Jealous of Buzz, like gaslighting the other toys.
Woody, I feel like I remember watching recently, like Woody had like a chip on his shoulder.
He really did.
Like he thought he was the number one guy in this group.
And it's like, bro, we're toys.
We're in a rotation.
Everybody is different.
You can be everything to everyone all at once.
Right.
And Andy's been really good to you.
Just enjoy that.
I didn't realize the character of Rex, I'm pretty sure, is voiced by
the teacher from Clueless, Mr.
Howe.
What's his name?
Oh, Cyrus.
Cyrus from Gossip Girl.
Yeah, he, yeah.
Claudia, he had me laughing up as He was so,
I know he's so yucky in person, but in the 90s, he voiced Rexton Toy Story, and he did a fantastic job.
Watching like OG
movies like that that I've voiced over, it's actually like distracting because at least for me, I spend the entire time.
I'm like, oh, that's, that's the guy.
Oh, yeah, oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Like it's, I'm like Googling the whole time.
It's like, just shut up and enjoy.
No, Woody is so Tom Hanks.
Like, great.
Woody is so Tom Hanks.
Wait, Buzz is
the tool man.
Yeah, the tool man.
Tim Allen.
The tool man.
Tim Allen.
And Buzz just got his own movie, but I heard it was bad.
And it's Chris Pratt, right?
Oh, is it?
I think.
And Chris Pratt's also Mario.
Okay, maybe I'm thinking Mario.
Who else is a voice?
And what are the other characters?
Slinky, Mr.
Potato Head.
Who plays Mr.
Potato Head?
He had a lot to say.
I just feel like the last time I saw a movie like that, like the new Lion King, which I enjoyed a lot, I was like, oh, that's Billy Eigner.
It's like so annoying.
Okay, Jim Varney plays Slinky.
I don't know who that is.
Mrs.
Potato Head Estelle Harris.
She looks cute.
I don't know her.
Don Rickles plays Mr.
Potato Head.
Oh, okay.
That feels right.
That feels right.
No.
What did you eat at the movies?
Oh my gosh.
Well, I had popcorn, like, you know, of course.
No additional butter.
Thank you so much.
My husband was.
I did no additional butter too.
My husband was in heaven because, you know, he loves to go to the movies and to take the boys to the movies.
He was like, like, this is the best day of my life.
Of my life.
He got additional butter and it smelled so buttery.
Like it's so yucky.
Yeah, I don't know why.
And I'm like fat.
So I wasn't doing it.
No, I'm not, it's not even locale, but it's like, it's got plenty of butter.
We're good.
Yeah, it just looks like, and the way they just like slosh it in, I don't know.
I wasn't feeling it.
So I said no butter and I was like, literally, felt so skinny.
I was like, yeah, no butter.
I'll have no, I'll have, I got dibs.
Oh, I got a bunch of crunch.
I got peanut MMs.
I got raisinettes, but I didn't open them because I'm thin.
And the flattest Diet Coke I'd ever had in my life with a paper straw.
It was disgusting.
Like, that's what you get when you go to the movies in New York City.
Ugh, yeah.
I didn't have a soda.
I had a water because, again, like, I'm very thin and I'm very healthy.
We did get pretzel bites,
but I need a grey poupon if I'm having a pretzel bite, not some old cheese.
No, I love pretzel bites and I love them solo.
Like, I don't need any additional accoutrement.
Like, a good pretzel bite, I feel the same way about a good French fry, doesn't require a sauce.
It doesn't require, but like, it would have been enhanced by a great pecan.
Yeah.
And I didn't have that.
So I can't say it was tense across the board.
But then something so crazy happened last night due to our jaunt at the movies.
I don't know if you realize the connection.
You know what happened, but um, I also bought sour patch watermelon for my husband because oh my god, yes.
Oh, I didn't realize this was from the movies.
Yes.
He loves a, he loves a sour, you know, like a nerd's rope.
And I'm a generous wife.
So I got him sour patch watermelon.
He probably had like a handful or whatever.
And then I brought home like the big things that we didn't really eat, like my raisinets, whatever.
and then yesterday my closet's kind of crazy to like bring home uneaten candy well my raisinuts weren't open my raisinets weren't open no I know I just feel like still I would have left them there like I left like the things that I ate like bunch of crunch pretzel bites popcorn but like my raisinnets I never opened so like they stayed in my bag and I know I just think that's crazy the watermelon I brought it's kind of like snacks from an airplane like you don't take them off the airplane well I brought the watermelon for my husband because I was like maybe in the car he'll want a few like I was just trying to be sweet you know and it's nice because like movie snacks are so expensive.
Like, I applaud you for being so economical, very turdy of you, but even turdy, like, I leave them there.
So, they were in my movie theater bag yesterday.
We were, you know, playing whatever.
My movie theater bag was like in my closet.
My closet door was shut all day.
And then in the afternoon, we were like, where's Bruno?
Where the fuck is Bruno?
Because we were like in the living room, like having snacks.
That's usually when he'll like sniff us out and try and like get the boys' cheese strings.
And Zach like went to go look at him.
And he was in my closet having eaten the whole bag of sour patch watermelons.
And when Zach found him, was he like splayed out or he was fine?
He was looking for, he was trying to get into raisinettes, which thank God he didn't get into raisinettes because that's chocolate and raisins, which is grapes.
Oh, true.
So he ate almost eight ounces.
Double homicide.
Double homicide.
He ate almost eight ounces of sour poulmel, which is like
so much, even for a human adult, large person.
So.
Oh, boy, I was like, what do I do?
I called the animal poison control ASPCA hotline.
Mm-hmm.
Shout out ASPCA, one of our sponsors.
That hotline is amazing.
Cause I was like, do I take him to the hospital?
Like, does he have a stomach pump again?
Like, he's so, he's, oh, he does this like once a year.
It's so great.
He's self-sabotaging.
He really does.
So they were able to help me identify the fact that
he didn't have anything deadly in them, but like could have caused like serious pancreatitis, blah, blah, blah.
So they were like, either induce vomiting or bring him in to the hospital and they'll induce vomiting.
I was like, well, it would be nice to stay home.
I'm a homebuck.
Right.
No, of course, lazy girls route.
I'd rather you do it in the house oh honey if you're gonna smoke crack i'd rather you do it in the house um so the way to get dad a dog to induce vomiting which by the way if you ever have to do it like call the hotline because they'll tell the right amount for the dog but it was a couple teaspoons of hydrogen peroxide and then i was like how do i get him to eat hydrogen i was gonna say she was like well you could put it with some peanut butter if he's food motivated i was like food motivated is why we're here like i kind of love that phrase food motivated i would say i too am food motivated
food motivated like yeah that's why I'm calling you because he is motivated by food.
I can't leave my purse on the ground.
That's so funny.
So I made him a lovely tincture of hydrogen peroxide and peanut butter.
My boy gulped the whole thing down.
And then we were in the backyard, like playing and watching him.
And like within two minutes, he threw up everything.
Good.
Crushed it.
Bruno is back at 100.
One thing about Bruno is he is going to eat something really bad for him and he's going to live through it.
Like the fact that Bruno, the last like Hanukkah I spent at your house, got into like a five pound bag of dark chocolate, literally a toxic,
what's really toxic for dogs is xylitol, which is fake sugar that they put in sugar-free candies.
The watermelons were not sugar-free, but those chocolate chocolate chocolates.
They were sugar-free.
They had not, they had chocolate, cacao,
cacao, xylitol, and he went to the hospital for that one, but then he came back right after that.
He was completely fine.
He's like, mom, I'm hungry.
Can I have a snack?
He's literally like a dog with nine lives.
Yeah, he's one crazy motherfucker.
I'll say that.
He's so happy that
he's fine.
And I knew he would be.
Like when you texted, like, Bruno, I was like, well, I don't know.
I'm not reading the text.
Like, I just know he's fine.
Yeah.
Like, Zach was like, came out like panicking.
I'm like, first of all, I'm not a panicker, really.
So I'm like, it's okay.
Like, let's call the hotline.
We'll find out.
We'll take him if we have to, but maybe we don't have to.
Like, maybe he'll just have a bad stomachache and like make some big shits, Bruno, big shits.
But
we were able to get her done.
So I want to shout out to the ASPNTA and
hotline.
Like they were actually way more helpful than ChatGBT, once again.
I was going to ask if you used chat.
First thing I did, I said, let me ask chat.
And they were like, does the candy have xylitol?
I was like, no.
They were like, still means it could be bad.
call your local hospital.
But like, wouldn't you, chat, know if Sour Patch has xylitol?
Like, right.
And wouldn't you know, there was something another ingredient that ASPCA, they're doing research on this ingredient and they think it might be similar to grapes.
So they were like, you should get it out of him.
Right.
But they knew more than chat on the latest research.
Well, that's because chat is stuck in 2012.
That's because Chad is an idiot.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
All of a sudden,
chat like fell on its head in the last few weeks.
Chat fell off, as the kids would say.
Flop era.
So Bruno's okay.
Even though he's not here today, I'm not like hiding anything.
I don't know where he is.
Probably in my closet.
He's lit or lay in the pantry.
Where's Bruno?
He's fine.
He always is fine.
I know.
Even when Zach was like looking for him, I'm like, oh, he probably, the kids are probably just being loud.
Thank God Zach found him.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
That's so Bruto.
So for TV recap, we'll do Love Thy Nader like in its official recap at the end of the show.
We have dillied and dallied quite a bit.
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Also, I was just curious.
Chris Evans played Lightyear in Lightyear.
That's a flop.
Yeah, my Chris is confused.
That's classic me.
But that movie was such a flop.
It's star-studded.
Never heard of it.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Our first story, a little more TV news from the weekend.
Football season is back.
Ho, ho, ho.
Taylor Swif stealthily attended the Chiefs game with an interest that's sparking wild fan theories.
Yes, it is.
I saw people saying saying she's pregnant.
She got a radical haircut.
Maybe Bleachella is back.
But I actually think it's none of those.
So Taylor was missing from the game yesterday, but then videos went around of someone walking into the stadium, like behind a big screen, you know, in the usual path that the lerd walks.
And, you know, it goes, it's safe to assume that with Taylor was walking behind the screen.
She didn't want to be seen.
And then she's her usual walk, like from the door to the elevator to get up to her suite.
And then she wasn't seen at the game, was she?
No, I saw like a GIF on Twitter, but it could have been an old one.
People like are always tricking me on Twitter.
And people are almost 100% sure that it's her because you can see peripherally a security guard who looks like her usual guy.
I think they spotted her mom.
And she's usually at every home game.
So yeah, so it's safe to say that she was like at the game.
And if someone was hiding behind a screen as they walked in, like it would have been her.
So now the question is why?
People think hair change, people, maybe plastic surgery, but I think she was just like stay home.
Not go.
Yeah.
And then the other theory that I had thought initially was like safety.
Taylor's, yeah, like Taylor's always, if you watch her documentary, like her security guards, her stalkers, like she has so much security.
And that's really like her dad's like big thing, like the armed vehicles, everything is armed.
And I feel like with the events of last week, just like being a public figure of her level,
why wouldn't you take extra precautions?
And then I saw also like the web, somebody found a website that sells what looks to be the exact same screen and and it's bulletproof.
Got it.
So
do you think this is going to be occurring more often for her now?
Or is just like something for the day, just given the events of the week and she's probably just feeling shocked.
Maybe she was just like having anxiety, you know?
Yeah.
And this is what she had to do to go.
That's so crazy.
I do think that she's going to be.
Is there not a way that she could get to her suite without going through a public hallway?
I don't know.
Can't they clear the hallway?
Right.
Yeah.
Like clear the hallway.
maybe this was like a last minute thing maybe on her way to the show
she can call for a clear last season she was a girlfriend i have to walk wherever all the girlfriends walk but fiancé clear the fucking hallway i feel like if you're a public figure like especially at her level like the charlie kirk thing definitely like makes you nervous more so than usual like safety is always a thing for taylor she talks about it all and for any for anyone of course um
And so I feel like everyone's just like particularly on edge.
Tensions are very high in the country.
Yeah.
And and it's like
yeah she's right there like with like i don't know what i we only see her p of but i'm sure her pov there's probably like a hundred people standing there yeah
so
this yeah do what you gotta do i don't think she's pregnant no i don't either you know i'm always on watch because we literally saw her a month like she's it wouldn't be something where she has to hide behind a screen yeah right but you're right they could just clear the hallway they could clear the hallway she could have like stayed home if she was feeling like particularly anxious
i don't know or it could be a hair transformation for life of a showgirl coming out
maybe orange hair right oh my god imagine and pregnant imagine redhead taylor and pregnant she's literally trying to be you she's me and shannon
shannon
shannon shannon had her baby shannon had her baby baby daisy nine pounds one ounce that's my queen right there queen of lish queen of this she'll tell her whole birth story but it's really crazy i mean every birth story is crazy.
That's what I'm saying.
Even if it's like, even if it actually is textbook, that's crazy that it was textbook.
Right.
How, how amazing.
How rare.
Um, she's doing great.
I talked to her like almost every day because she, like, five times a day, because she's breastfeeding.
And so, like, I'm trying to impart as much.
And it got me thinking.
She was asking me questions.
And it's crazy like how little you know when you start.
Like, she's not asking anything I didn't ask either.
Like, you just don't know.
And I feel like now, such an expert, right?
I'm like, I need to have another baby.
Like, like, if I had a baby right now, oh my God, I'd fucking sleigh.
No, but
it's very enjoyable, your subsequent children, because you really, like, you can enjoy, you're not stressing, like, confident.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's a nice feeling.
Yeah, that is.
There's nothing like the first of where you just get to be solely focused on them.
Everything comes with you know what I mean?
Like, you'll never
have that where it's like, you don't have to run out of, out of the house, run out of bed, get dressed.
Like, it's just you and Fu
and you're sad.
The Chiefs lost.
So the game that Taylor went to was like the Super Bowl rematch, Eagles versus Chiefs.
They lost, which was like crazy, but they did lose the Super Bowl to them.
So technically, they're a better team.
But they're 2-0.
There's been two games and they've lost both of them.
I feel like the Chiefs always have a slow start to the season.
Now, I said that last night with
like
Zach
with the people I was with, and they were like, that's not true.
But it's just like,
it's a feeling.
Well, I feel like they want this big, at least for Travis, he wants this big year, right?
I think he wants to retire but he wants to win one more super bowl so you don't just get that right you have to work hard for it i saw him catch a ball and i saw him run and move that ass like which is better than last season which is better than last season butterfingers like
butterfingers he was doing his part so that training has paid off so i just want to give like shout out because he worked really hard in the offseason offseason uh sweating down here in florida yeah and he caught the ball Which it's kind of like the whole point.
It's crazy how many times they don't catch the ball.
Not him.
Just like like players in general.
It's like, well, why'd you get picked?
I still feel like the Chiefs can have a strong season.
I do always get the impression that they like have a slow start and then they come together.
They're kind of like secretariat in that way.
Yeah, kind of coming from the back.
Yeah, like the greatest, but they start out, you know, they let everyone think.
They're so good.
I just think like they're going to have this big moment.
I think maybe Taylor's going to do the Super Bowl.
Like you don't get that without a bit of a struggle.
And I think if you really want to be the best version of yourself as a team, it can't come easy.
So I'm actually, I'm glad.
And you you need to learn from the mistakes now you can't be making mistakes in the playoffs you can make mistakes now who gives a this wasn't even like i know i know it counts towards their score but it wasn't even in their same conference it's just like it's it's kind of irrelevant um
yeah i agree like there's plenty time but you know who did win yesterday
the cowboys Who'd they play?
They played the Giants.
Olivia's family is a Giants family.
We're a Cowboys family.
So we watched together.
The kids were cheering.
It was like so cute.
They were really feeling like rivals.
Um, and the cats are like, I'm happy for you.
I'm happy for Zach because he doesn't really like get a win a lot.
Experience this sort of thing.
I just, as far as I know, and I haven't really caught up on this football season.
I'm going to get involved soon.
It's just like it just started.
Like, I have a baby.
Um, but like, the giants like suck, right?
Usually, they still suck or no.
When the game started, everyone's like, this is oh, wait, Sierra's a giant.
Russell Wilson is a quarterback for the Giants.
Yeah.
Oh, he's amazing.
Was he good?
I don't know.
Yeah,
they went into overtime.
Yeah, he's a quarterback, Russell.
They went into overtime, but I, from what I heard, I think it was an ugly game.
Like, they weren't playing beautiful ball.
It's the beginning of the season.
Everybody's just kind of like, you know, fucking around.
And they were dropping a lot of balls.
Like, I'm shocked the Cowboys won because every time I looked at the TV, they were dropping the ball.
And at what point do we stop calling the Cowboys America's team?
Well, there's a new documentary about the Cowboys on Netflix.
Oh.
I'm going to watch it.
It's about like Jerry Jones.
It's called America's Team.
And I think it's a lot about their history.
And I need to understand like what really, not just Zach
telling me they're America's team.
He's biased.
I need to understand like the history, and then I'll let you know if they're still worthy of the title.
Okay, I like that.
Okay.
I do feel like
their usage of America's team was expiring, but the DCC gave them like an extension.
Who would you call America's team if not them?
Right now, like the Chiefs.
I agree.
First of all, because they're like in their middle America.
Like that's, oh no, they're the Midwest, right?
What is
no, they're the Midwest.
My Mo.
Midwest.
My mo country.
This is my mo country.
Yeah, they're like very all-American.
Of course, like having the quarterback and the pop star is very Americana.
Yeah, I would say.
But if Travis retires this year, then they're not.
So it's kind of a little.
It depends.
If they're still really good, Patrick is like, you know, Maybe
the dynasty.
But I guess like two years ago, the Patriots were
and they're the Patriots.
And the Cowboys.
And I can hear like the our like radical Eagles fan will be the Eagles are America's team and sitting down you might be if you didn't act the way that you did when you won and lost like burning down cities.
That's not what I see for like America's team, you know?
I also want to say this might be like very rudimentary, but I do think America's team has to have like red and or blue in their colors.
Agree
100%.
Yeah, like they have green and white.
And like, yes, technically we're red, white, and blue, but it's really red and blue.
I said red and or blue yeah i agree the patriots were red and blue that's why they stayed america's team for so long and yes the i completely i agree no one's arguing that the minnesota vikings should be america's team purple sound purple yeah simple yeah 100 that's like seriously eagles like you're not even in this conversation it's not it's it's not sorry You're a great team.
You're actually the best team.
It's not bad.
Agreed.
You might win again.
That's amazing talent-wise.
In terms of branding, like you need to...
Actually, but they're the Eagles, like the ball.
Yeah, I know.
And it doesn't even like register because they're green.
Yeah, you've got to change your colors if you want the title.
But Eagle is the strong symbol of America.
It is.
And I love your song, Spritz.
Fly, Eagles Fly, on the road to victory.
Fly, Eagles fly
on the road to victory.
Is that how it ends?
E-A-G-L-E.
Like you guys are fucking crazy.
I love it.
Like, you have the potential to be America's team, not with the green sign.
They need to refine.
Oh, and I'm sorry.
They play at Lincoln Field.
Like, what's more American than Abe?
Lincoln.
Yeah.
They need to refine, though, the brand book.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Agreed.
But they have a shot.
Sure.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
Some seriously surprising breakup news.
Kelsey Ballarini and Chase Stokes.
Oh, my God.
I'm shocked.
Break up after nearly three years of dating.
So Kelsey Ballarini and Chase Stokes, who have seemed like the happiest couple in Hollywood for three years, have reportedly split split after three years of dating.
And just two days after, he wrote her a loving birthday post.
And that she posted a carousel of her own birthday that he commented on.
So I was like, what happened in two days?
I followed them both.
I saw both their birthday content.
And I actually remember thinking, I'm like, wow, they're so solid.
Like, it's so crazy.
To me, they seem like...
How this was like a rebound in some ways, but it really was like such a real relationship.
They seem like the sort of couple that's never had a fight.
Like, I don't know.
Which is not a good sign.
No, but like other couples, I feel like they have like long-standing issues that eventually break them.
Yep.
You know and like when they break up it's because like this was just too insurmountable.
You're this I'm that but
these two just seem like they've been genuinely happy for three years.
I don't think something happened where like someone cheated on someone and that's why two days later they're broken up.
It just seems like their issues got the best of them, right?
Where you just like throw in the towel.
But like what issues?
Not that I would even know, but I just feel like they're so happy.
I don't know because the timeline of it all makes me think that something did happen.
Something like drastic.
Right.
How do you go from carousels and emojis to literally two days confirming her rep confirmed to People magazine?
I genuinely, I'm baffled.
I don't know.
I don't have a theory here.
I don't have any theory.
I don't even know what they could really fight about.
No, that's what I'm saying.
It was all so good, so healthy.
Like she loved Madeline Klein.
Like it was all perfect.
No, and they were always supporting each other.
They're two people who work in like different industries on like different sides of the country.
Making it word.
But like it's scheduling what?
Like he's got he's learning all the words to her song.
She's putting out three albums a year and he knows every word.
Like, yeah, they've got this on lock.
I'm shocked.
I, me too.
I can't even theorize.
I don't have any like tea.
I know nothing.
Me too.
The good news is, I said, she'll spill.
Roll down that welcome mat, bitch.
Roll it down.
She'll spill through her.
We'll be get like signs through her music if it was like cheating or just like fell out of love or whatever.
Or maybe she'll just like do an interview and tell us again.
Right, right.
But I'm sad.
But I am sad.
If this is sort of just like a breakup, nothing crazy, I do think we'll find out like through the music subliminally, like it won't be this tell-all.
Because I only think you really do that when somebody like really fucks you up.
But he, but Morgan not Wallen didn't, like, it wasn't Morgan not Wallen.
It wasn't nasty.
Morgan Evans.
No, I think it was.
Why?
Like financially.
I think that's like when she was going through the divorce and like he had such a chip on his shoulder about her success, but was more than happy to like take half of it in the divorce.
I think that really sent her over the edge.
I think he took, didn't it come out?
He took half of the profits of the house.
Of the house.
Well,
and half
of her fortune.
I'm not sure about that.
Yeah.
It sounded like that in the podcast.
But she also talked about it on the podcast.
It's about how they had had a prenup.
The impression I was left with was that he got half of the profits of the house that she paid for.
I think he did.
Yeah.
Amongst other halves.
Like, I think that song is about the house.
Well, they really were just like two people who were like growing on different tracks.
Like, he was ready to settle down and she was just getting started.
It wasn't totally terrible.
No one
wasn't like backstabbing, cheating, right?
Abuse.
Agreed.
It's kind of just like a heartbreaking classic tale where it's like falling out of love and growing apart.
And that's like so painful.
Especially in fame when like you're in the same industry and like one person's career is taking off at just a different pace than the others.
And I think it creates like a lot of resentment.
So I'm just saying, like, she was able to share with us when even it wasn't like, I'm going to get you.
Right, right, right.
It was just sad.
And that album was sad.
It was.
Yeah.
I'm shocked.
Although I do think like.
Her rise, like I've, I've known and listened to Kelsey Mallorini long before all these other bitches did, right?
Cause she's like a real country queen.
But I do think, like, her divorce and then the album after that, and then her subsequent relationship after that, like, really helped rise her star.
So much so, where she's like a pop star now, right?
Like, she does bigger venues, and her music is played on pop radio.
And so, I would love to see who she dates next.
I think it's like a great tool for her star.
Oh, for sure.
And for him, he's so eligible.
Like, we'll put him in that roster, you know, Kai Gerber.
Right, right.
Oh, he'll throw him in that room.
Yeah, he'll go there.
She won't go there.
I don't think she'll go there.
She will or won't.
Me neither.
Um,
so I'm sad.
I'm sad, but I'm more so shocked.
They were so solid.
So solid.
And like
a real testament, because I think a lot of people thought this was like a rebound relationship, right?
It was like right after her divorce, but they were so serious.
Yeah.
And so supportive.
It was really like
whenever we talk about celebrities, like they couldn't make their schedules workable.
It's like, if you wanted to, you would make it work because she's a touring artist.
He films this huge show in the middle of South Carolina.
Like he has to be there.
So the fact that they were able to make it work, anyone can.
I agree.
And I'll stay tuned for more.
Yeah.
Our next story is
actually could be nominated for Toasty Lions.
It's some big news for Mormon wives star Jen Affleck.
She is in a new Dunkin' Donuts commercial with Ben Affleck.
Ben Affleck.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
Ben Affleck may be a dunk king, but a family member is about to dethrone him.
Dunkin's latest commercial features a new affleck, secret lives of mormon wives star jen affleck the minute-long spot i have to watch it i haven't even seen it give me one second yep go ahead that's genius by the way you know you could put it your phone we could all listen i'm going to
free commercial for duncan
they need the the advertising no this is really smart i love when people do things that aren't dumb you know I have, yeah.
In addition to the fact that this is such a sleigh for her, everyone who makes fun of her for saying that they're related.
It was weird, but it wasn't her fault.
Her weird ass husband lied to her and made it up and then claimed he didn't.
Or the family did.
But first of all, I do think they're related.
And second of all, Slay.
Okay, here we go.
Play.
Play, Enus.
Excuse me.
They're not going to make you watch an ad.
Oh, they did.
I watched it on mute for you guys.
Okay, ready?
For
Affleck?
Affleck.
Expecting my cousin Ben?
Nah.
When Dungan has something packed with amazing value, they bring me in.
Gen Athlete, the value athlete.
That's really the value athlete?
Yep.
Twice the personality, half the price.
I'm a still.
Just like Duncan's $6 meal deal.
A coffee, bacon, egg, and cheese, and hash browns for $6?
That's value.
You know what's not value?
Ben.
Why overpay for something that nobody wants?
He's so dated.
I'm younger, hotter.
Can you believe Ben's only 53?
And it's not like a young 53.
It's like a weathered 53.
Rude.
Ugh, that was bad, but not as bad as those grays.
A totally average 53.
Right down the 53 fairway.
Okay, the commercial itself, like, could use some work.
The copy and the whole vibe is not my favorite.
Conceptually hysterical.
Conceptually toasty lions?
Like, only no, because like that was a bad commercial.
Like,
like, it's not funny.
Yeah.
They went, like, they were almost there.
They thought they crushed shit with the idea, but they didn't get the right.
It wasn't enough to get you across the finish line.
But this is so awesome for her because she's really been the butt of the joke for, I guess it's only been like a year since that show came out, which is so crazy.
No, but still, like, it was really embarrassing.
Yeah.
And now she's on Dancing with the Stars.
And now she's in a Dunkin' Donuts commercial with Ben Affleck himself.
Parchy.
Dancing with the Stars starts tomorrow.
I couldn't be more excited.
And I'm literally committing my platform to making sure Gleb Semchetko goes home first.
And you know who his partner is?
Who?
Perfect.
I want her to go home first too.
Ilaria.
Like perfect for
two con men.
Great.
I actually meant to pull up this story since we're talking about Dancing with the Stars.
I'll share it now.
That they have an official podcast now for the new season.
Hosted by Joey.
Hosted by Joey, who was the bachelor and season.
33 winner.
So now he'll be hosting a podcast.
I'm sure like people who come off the show will go on the podcast and talk about behind-the-scenes stuff.
And so, for those of you who watch Dancing with the Stars who just want like more duitas,
now you have a podcast that you can listen to.
You can see a lot of people who want more duetess that you can listen to when you're done listening to the toast.
Yeah, we'll give you the real.
I'm so excited.
Like, my journey starts tomorrow.
Literally, me and Ben were planning.
Like, we wanted to have dinner with his parents one night this week.
He's like, How's Tuesday?
And I was like, Is that the 16th?
He was like, Yeah, I'm like, No, can do.
I gotta, I got an appointment with my cable box.
Okay, dancing with the stars, baby.
Especially
with the Gleb of it all, who I fucking hate.
Fucking hate.
And up until this point, all I really knew about Gleb was like he was the partner Lisa Vanderpump had when she fake-fainted because she wanted to be off the show.
And I thought that was funny.
Now what I know about him, like an, he should be fired.
I just want to say all these Dwiddish guys who like end up in relationships with their stars like kind of suck.
Like Ardham.
Ardham.
Kind of suck.
I agree.
But we'll get into why I hate Gleb Sevichenko Chenko in the Love Thy Nader recaps.
If you don't know why I just randomly hate this guy, it's because he's the devil.
And what he did to my Brooksy.
I fucking love Brooks.
What he did to my Brooksy, and I don't even know what he did, but I know it's downright disgusting.
I have a pretty good idea.
We'll talk about it.
Are you ready for our fourth story?
Oh, wait, just quickly back to Jen Affleck.
Oh, we're only on the fourth story.
Quickly back to Jen Affleck.
Love this, so happy for her.
And it really got me thinking when I was watching Love Thy Nader.
She went to that event where all the Hulu shows were at.
Like, who's really crushing the reality game i feel like everybody has their moment for netflix they were crushing those dating shows for a while but now like all their reality show content is so premium and they really launch huge stars like these mormon girls i love and when i was watching love thy nator i was like i love these girls it's so cool to see like young hot fabulous skinny people but like i really can't relate to them and i really do relate more to the mormon wives because they're doing it all right like balancing motherhood and pumping while being celebrities and i just love them i love them i think hulu's crushing it yeah And I feel like just like we need to hold people accountable when they do a bad job at their job, like the person who's rebranded, HBO Max to Max, then back to HBO Max.
And then back again.
Like whoever got hired as like head of unscripted TV,
it's time for a bonus for them.
Promotion.
Well, no, keep them in the job because they're doing a great job.
Oh, yeah.
Stay where you are.
Give them more money and tell them they're doing a good job.
Right, perhaps a pat on the back.
Yeah, if they don't already know, like, you're doing amazing, sweetie.
Thank you.
You're doing amazing.
We love what you're putting out.
Put out more.
I love your shows, Hulu.
Title.
No, it's true.
But I saw Chloe at the Hulu event.
I'm like, oh, yeah, they really have it all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Crushing.
Are you ready for our fourth story?
It's actually a story for you and I and you and I alone that a lot of people sent me this weekend.
But Will Arnett's ex Alessandra Braun is dating Emily Radikowski's ex-husband, Sebastian Bear McClard.
So we finally have
a name to the face and a name to the kind eyes that we spotted at Round Swamp Farm in the Hamptons.
And of course, she has an interesting background.
Will Arnett's ex-girlfriend, Alessandra Braun, is the one who was dating Sebastian Bear McClard.
Now, is that the woman he had a baby with that they were talking about on the
documentary?
They have a baby together.
Got it.
Well, I don't know if it's a baby anymore, but they have a child together.
At one point, the child was a baby.
Yes, they welcomed a baby.
And then she's previously married.
Her wedding was in vogue when she got married.
I think it was like 10 years ago.
They have since split.
And she's just like a woman about town.
And she is who I saw.
And she does have kind eyes.
Can I ask you a question?
Sure.
I think.
Do you think Will Arnett is hot?
Yes.
And his personality makes him handsome too.
But a lot of those guys have like good personalities, but it doesn't affect their looks.
And I feel like he's someone who's like
really just enhanced by being funny because you wouldn't expect him to be funny, maybe because he's like tall.
Yeah, I like.
I think Will Arnett is extremely good looking.
And I agree that.
I don't think that's controversial.
I think he's like meant to be good looking.
You know, I think when he was cast as Job, he's like the handsome older brother, you know?
Right, right.
But you're right.
Like, he's so funny that it really makes him hotter than he probably is.
Yeah, we've got funny goggles on.
But he doesn't like go like in movies and play like heartthrobs.
So it's like, are you hot?
But you are.
Because he's like silly and goofy.
And also like, what is Will Arnett in?
Arrested Development.
But obviously Job.
Oh, Blades of Glory, which is I don't really watch, but obviously it's immensely popular.
But it's also.
And he does a lot of, he does a lot of voice acting.
He's a very major designer actor.
He's in.
Yes.
obviously smartlist made i think smartless made him more money than his acting career ever did yeah yeah but like he's very employed but he does like mostly exclusively voice work he's bojack horseman which is really popular he's in chippendale tiny tina's wonderland is this like a lot all voice work i'm just saying what are those things
oh you don't know them lego movie
No, we haven't.
He plays Batman in a Lego short movie, Lego Movie 2.
He makes a lot of voice money.
Yeah, he he has a very iconic voice.
Oh, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, too.
Who is he?
Oh, he does the voice of Kitty.
Again, just voice work.
No, he has a great voice.
He does.
Maybe that's why his podcast is so successful.
Oh, of course.
He's 30 Rock, too.
Bates.
Yeah.
But still, he's not 30 Rock.
No, like, what is he?
The office?
He has like a couple of episodes.
He's just like a random actor.
Jackie, his IMTB never ends.
Good.
He's a hustler.
He's in the iconic Kristen Bell rom-com.
Oh, Jackie.
Parks and Wreck.
What are you saying this about stuff?
No, because I'm looking for like this.
That's going to be the thing.
Parks and Wreck.
Oh, but he only did one episode.
I have no fucking idea.
Like, what is it?
People are probably screaming at the episode.
What's Bojack Horseman?
It's a Netflix
animated series that's really popular.
I feel like he's in some like movies.
Will Arnett.
I don't know.
I'm telling you.
He's just like a working actor.
Willing Grace, one episode.
He's just been in everything once.
He's in Sex in the City.
Blades of Glory, I think, is probably like up there.
Yeah, he's in just like silly stuff.
And I guess it all amounts to.
Semi-pro.
You know, what's that?
Peanuts make a bag.
Yeah, and then that bag gets you a podcast that you don't need the peanuts for anymore.
Peanuts make a bag full.
Happy Happy for McClured.
And he was married to Amy Poehler.
Well, of course.
I think that was big for him.
I think it was good for her too.
They ended up having two children.
Yeah.
And now, and then he was with Alessandra, who's now with Sebastian.
So this is like another circle.
Yeah, yeah.
Like different than the young Hollywood one, but like similar.
Yeah.
Anyways, glad to put a name to it and happy to see they're still going strong.
And I'm also glad to be done with the stories because I have to talk about Love Thy Nader.
Let's do it.
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Over the weekend, Jackie and I both watched, binged, and loved the new Hulu reality show, Love Thy Nator.
This is not a sponsored segment, even though it sounds sponsored.
Did they sponsor the show at one point?
They did.
And that's how I saw the first episode.
I was like, oh, it's going to be good.
Right.
And then the whole season came out last week.
And oh my God, it was so good.
It's so good.
And each episode is better than the next, I would say, and like meteor and tackling like different subjects.
I can't remember what the last episode was that we watched, but the Ozempic episode, which I had seen written up, and I feel like it was actually much more serious than the headlines had.
It said that like Brooks is not Ozempic and her sisters are worried she's like abusing the drug.
So I was like, oh, they're just jealous.
No, she's seriously was unwell in that episode because she's shooting the cover of Maxim.
She's literally not eating.
She's passing out in Zumba.
She's passing out in the bathtub.
And they're showing us everything.
Like, I think that's what's most surprising about the show is that they're really not hiding.
She literally shoots herself the day of her Maxim shoot with Ozemp.
Like everyone else would either pretend they're not on it, they would hide from the cameras if they're like sick in the tub and like we would have no idea what's going on.
But the trend.
Even the scenes, like you can tell in a reality show, like they all got dressed up to go sit and talk, right?
I don't feel like that way on the show.
I feel like their cameraman should like live in that apartment and they just pick up whenever the girls are together.
Like it feels, there are obviously scenes that feel really staged.
Like a lot of the modeling stuff, like with the Ford modeling agency, feels so fake.
But for the most part, the show does not feel staged or fake, which I really appreciate.
And yes, they go there.
They really do go there.
And I, Brooks is like, talks about how she feels this pressure to be thin.
I didn't realize that she had lost 30 pounds over the last few years and that when she came up as a model, she was 30 pounds
heavier and she was doing Sports Illustrated, which is like a very like sexy and like, you know, she had that look, but now she wants to do high fashion and she was told like lose 30 pounds, get a nose job, do all this stuff.
And she's like, and I do it all.
And she says like the industry has such toxic beauty standards.
And I feel like whenever someone says that, the next thing they say is like, and I'm going to change it.
And
then they don't.
And it affects their career.
That's the sad truth.
Yeah.
Or it's just like an uphill battle.
And she's just like, the industry has toxic beauty standards and I'm going to fit into those beauty standards because these are my years where I can kill it and I can have a cheeseburger in 10 years.
And these are my goals.
And so she has these like benchmark goals that she wants to achieve and she's really doing it.
And even though it's obviously like not healthy, it's honest and it's true.
And she says like when every agent has a vial of Ozembic to give to a girl, like the all so crazy.
Like the fact that she's saying that everyone is on these drugs and I believe her and any celebrity who's like always like, you know, not even someone who was seriously overweight who then lost weight and they always you know get questions and they share but a lot of celebrities in the last few years have lost five to ten pounds are skinnier
are skinnier than ever before Katy Perry's a good example she's always been thin she's never really been like a celebrity who's been overweight and you wouldn't think she's never been 10 or 15 pounds to lose but she's not exactly she's never been this skinny I completely agree and I'm the Ozempic queen and I I love her approach to it and again it's not the healthiest thing but I feel like the fact that she's not lying to us being like no you're right i won't take it again no i will take it again and that's just what i have to do and you know what i didn't even think about it was like and the thing is is i i don't even feel like telling her stop taking like take a little less eat a little more yeah you're you're so thin and have a piece of grilled chicken you're not okay but like there's balance you could find balance yeah and then i was really it made me think about her career because i i haven't really sat back and thought recently like who's the it model of the moment when it when it comes to like these big things like the kate upon of the of our time?
And she's well on her way, if not already there, to being that.
And I'm sorry, like, she's sick looking, but it made me, but it made me feel so much better in a good way.
Sorry, yeah, it's confusing this conversation.
It made me feel really better to hear all the girls being like, you know, we all like take it at some points because you know what?
They're all so skinny.
And I'm like, oh, it must be genetics or it might just be like they must work out endlessly.
But Brooke's saying she never works out.
How is that possible?
Yeah.
And she's like clowning on Gray Sam because she's like, Gray Sam works out.
So she sometimes looks stiff in these shoots.
Like, does she really not work out?
That's so crazy.
I mean, it's really about most of it is what you eat if you want to lose weight.
No, the show was just so honest.
And like, I'm sure people can depict, like, she's being a bad animal.
I don't give a fuck.
People are going to say, like, it's a, she's a bad role model.
It's very toxic.
She literally says, I don't think I have an eating disorder because I don't eat.
No, she's so honest.
Yeah.
And even if it's not saying the right thing, that's what makes the show really good.
And she's not like hiding from people.
She's not making you think like, oh, she lost these 30 pounds.
And, you know, just by sheer will and that you can't do it.
So you're like, I just, I really appreciate the honesty and I'm genuinely shocked by it.
And really, she's putting a spotlight on the rest of the industry because I think everyone is micro-dosing these drugs, taking them for a big shoot, whatever it is.
And we don't know that.
And then you see people on the cover of a magazine looking insane and just know like they had a little help.
That makes you feel better.
A thousand.
I felt so much better when Sarah Jane was like, I took it too.
I'm like, oh, good.
Yeah.
Sarah Jade is so skinny.
Yeah.
No, it's amazing.
I feel like, and the show also does a really good job.
It's really very sisterly.
It is.
Like when, when Grace and
Jane was like, you know, I'm never talking to Brooks again.
Like, I'm done with her.
And then like they had a conversation and she was fine.
Like that's so sisterly.
And so the, and I feel like my takeaway after the first two episodes was like, the show is really good.
Brooks is clearly the star.
Like I don't really need the other sisters.
And I do, after now watching it in completion, like there's potential for the other sisters.
Like, I do think that they add a lot to the show.
But my big takeaway, and I feel like the show was so good for Brooks because when she was talking about how like so many people thought Gleb was her fake boyfriend, like she's literally talking about me.
Yeah, we didn't even pick those stories because it was like this number.
Yeah.
And I feel like she was.
well on her way and doing really well in the modeling industry, but her public perception wasn't amazing.
And I feel like the show was so good for her because she is this amazing personality.
And I actually think I understand her so much now.
And I understand a lot of her media shenanigans with Gleb and her relationship stuff.
I understand it now because she's kind of this like 28-year-old newbie, right?
She was married for so long and she met her man when she was 19.
And like, I don't know, I feel like whatever goal she set out to accomplish with the show, she did.
Yeah.
And for better or for worse, they're very unrefined.
Like they don't have media training, which sometimes like it is nice because we're getting to hear them authentically speak and not just like word salad us.
Yes.
But on the other hand, like it's a little messy when they're going on podcasts and like talking about things and just not really knowing like where that line is.
And eventually they'll find it and then they won't share as much with us and we'll miss these days but it does feel like early days of a reality show which we don't get anymore because everyone is so like buttoned up and like nervous about everything that they're gonna say and so they don't share that much and it's really refreshing to see a show in 2025 like feel like the old days where it's like we're letting it rip the test shoot you were right that outfit was insane like and so i kind of i i kept going on these journeys with the girls because at first i'm like sarah jane is my favorite sister like she was so right by the way she was so right That outfit was terrible.
And I do think she was really trying to help because it was bad.
But she kept up that energy throughout the show, like telling everyone like what they're doing wrong.
And it just, it does come off condescending.
And so much so that by the end of the series, I'm like, I actually don't think she's coming from a good place.
I think she likes to stunt on everyone.
I think that like she...
is the most successful with modeling because she works hard, but she has the look, right?
She has that high fashion look.
She has the eyebrows.
Like she's kind of the easiest to sell as a model because she's perfect looking.
And so, and she has that one particular look.
I'm not surprised she booked the max shoot.
You know, she's got the eyebrows for it and the eyelashes and the skin.
Yeah, she looks like someone like in a makeup ad and the cheekbones and everything.
Yeah.
So she's just really condescending.
And I don't doubt that she works hard and knows a lot, but like, she's just annoying me towards the end.
I feel like she also,
I mean, that.
Eliana thing was so crazy.
The way that she's like girling in her love life is also annoying me.
And it's funny because like if you just hear from her, you like would think like, oh, well, like, you know, you would just like think she's like fat.
but then when you hear the other side of like things that she's doing, like bringing Eliana home to her hometown as just a friend, but kind of like using her to like stoke conversations with her family and like see how even though you don't even know if this girl is your girlfriend or just your friend.
So why would you even bring her home?
Right.
And like subject her to like the disc, you wouldn't bring any boyfriend home who's like not your boyfriend.
Like you wouldn't bring just a guy home and then like, Of course, people are going to make comments like, are you guys together?
I just felt like she was doing it to like sort of antagonize her family into having a conversation that she's obviously wanted to have but like don't use this poor girl and make her come to someone's huge family thing and then and eleana was like such a trooper and she's obviously like a very cool relaxed girl and like isn't really reading too much into all of this but then to go to the bar and start like macking on your high school love And that didn't make air.
So like Sarah Jane was like, oh, Eliana's ghost see me, almost making Eliana look bad.
And shout out to Grace Ann for that's what I mean.
Like if we just heard Eliana's ghost meeting like, oh, Eliana, she couldn't handle the big family dynamic.
And then we see the other side of the coin.
We were just like, no, you literally left her alone in a bar in your hometown while you were like flirting with someone else.
Macking on some guy.
Yeah.
So I felt like I kept having these like moments where it's towards the end, I love Mary Beth.
And I want to shake Mary Beth.
Mary Holland, yeah.
Mary Holland, get off this show.
Like quitting your job was a bad idea.
Your startup sounds terrible.
The people you're going to for advice, honestly, I didn't even even know what they were talking about.
Fia,
who
these girls keep popping up.
I know she's Bill Gates's daughter, and so that obviously gives her like a lot of credit.
So, she has a podcast now on Unwell, and Chris Jenner went on it, and she's like this business leader.
What is her business?
Like, who is what kind of business is you in?
Who is Fia in this world?
I was just so confused.
And that really was a painful scene where like they're giving her advice.
And you need six months of runway.
Okay, well, our dad isn't Bill Gates, so like help, you know?
It was just, it was so stupid.
I feel like of, I feel like they all gave up something for this show and it was the right choice for them, except for Mary Beth.
Like, you have this lord and your sister's going on and talking about his lordship and his Viscountership on the podcast.
Like, no,
I want you to move to L.A.
This man loves you.
He's taking your parents to Wimbledon.
Like, he's a good guy.
I really, I feel that.
Agreed.
And she's an amazing, she's such a classic.
She'll be a bar.
She'll be a fantastic lady.
Viscountess.
I need you to give your all to this relationship.
Like, I don't think that the show is going to yield as much for you as this relationship might.
And I think of all the girls, like, she might have the least to gain from this show.
So, like, seriously, go back to your job and work at a bank in LA.
But it's like so funny how she literally goes into these meetings.
Everyone's like shitting on her ideas, or she's like talking to Grace Anne in the shower and she's like, What are you saying?
And she's like, so humming.
So positive.
And like, yeah, positive and like doesn't get offended about any of it.
And even when she did the toilet paper reel, which by the way, I went to her Instagram because I wanted to watch it because like the fact that she wrote a whole script with Chat GPT and it was like she's such a queen she's like give her all the brand deals but how what was the brand i don't know i couldn't find the reel on her instagram it wasn't there i went back to like last sumptuy
this was like a storyline no maybe she like removed it after like the 30 days like right or maybe maybe it she never posted maybe she didn't take the deal i don't know but i did look for it so if i missed it someone sent it to me because i wanted to support it and i'd like nobody really like she was she's working harder on that reel than like most people do when they just like put up a piece of content And like, if I'm a brand looking for influencers,
I would hire her to do content.
No, and then Sarah Jane was being so condescending about the, like, that's when I really fell off Sarah Jane.
Like, I was like, you know what?
Maybe this is a pattern.
Maybe you don't just know best about everything because I thought she was giving bad advice to Mary Beth.
And like, there's really no shame in working with the toilet paper.
And she was like, you're going to take it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
It's just like everything comes so easy to Sarah Jane.
And I think she benefits the most from being Brooks Nader's sister.
Like she saw the opportunity and took it.
and she's also the youngest which makes modeling even easier and I don't know I just think she's like condescending to her other sisters.
Yeah and then also like when she made Brooks cry at dinner like her dating her friends but I thought that scene was weird because Meredith I felt like we were missing something.
No, Sarah Jane was being weird because she said you guys look great.
Let me take a photo and then was like
Brooks you take it because of the better lighting and then Brooks sees something on her phone and it just felt like very stage for Brooks to see that.
I wasn't following.
Like I felt like I I missed a piece.
No, so Brooks just saw something on Sarah Jane's phone to the effect that Sarah Jane's like sexting one of Brooks' friends again, in addition to like Ellie Goulding and the friend at F1.
Ellie Goulding.
And she just like hooks up with all of Brooks' friends, which isn't just like a great way to move.
No, it's not.
I was shocked to see Ellie Golding on the show.
Like love that.
I love her.
Oh, and Brooks dropping that she has new music coming out.
Can't wait.
Like literally nobody cared except for you.
Nobody.
It's not like a drop.
She's not Taylor Swift.
Nobody cared as much as me.
No, I'm sorry.
We need the world needs more elegant living music.
Like she makes hits for everybody.
I want to talk about two things.
I want to talk about Gleb.
You're not getting up from the show.
You're not leaving the studio.
No, I'm not going to.
I have to readjust.
My ass is killing me.
Okay.
Okay.
That's good.
She's here to stay.
I want to talk about Gleb and I want to talk about Jimmy Kimmel.
Like, I don't know why when I saw Jimmy Kimmel was a little bit more.
I'm sorry.
I can't forget to say this one more time.
Please keep note of that.
We have to talk about our sister.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, wait.
Okay, three things.
First, quickly, I want to talk about Jimmy Kimmel.
Okay, okay.
But don't forget.
Don't let us forget to talk about our sister.
I understand.
It's like ABC.
It's like this, you know, circle jerk of
corporate.
It's like he helped probably get the show moodlog.
And then he sees the girls and gives them a hug at the upright.
I don't know why, like, him being a producer is the creepiest thing to me on the planet.
Like, this thousand years.
This show about little girls.
You're like this old man.
Like, ew.
I don't know.
It just grosses me out.
What are you doing here?
Scram.
Like, what is the connection?
And the connection, like, just has to be nefarious.
Like, it's creepy.
It's giving casting couch.
I don't know.
I just don't like it.
From the moment I saw a show produced by Jimmy Kimmel, I'm like, yucky.
Yucky.
Not even because of him, like any personal feelings I have towards him, because I don't even know which Jimmy he is.
Like, just what are you doing producing this show?
Like, there's girls going to be in their bathing suits.
Yeah.
No, and also, what do you know about this?
You know, nothing.
No, there was going to be girls in their bathing suits.
A thousand percent.
A thousand percent.
Two, our sister Margo.
And I, I, we've known that she's going to be on it for so long that like everyone's like, did you see Are you freaking?
I'm like, no, no, we knew.
And I actually was shocked at how much she was in it and how she was like positioned as like this scary executive.
Yeah, like she was like the head of the shoot, like, which she is, but it's so crazy to see your little sister in that position.
Like, that's Satchy.
Also, people were saying Margo's and Love Thy Nature.
I don't know why I thought it was in an earlier episode.
So when I didn't see her, I thought maybe I missed it.
I thought it was just like so quick.
I thought it was maybe from Brooks's LaRouge shoot or something.
And I just missed it.
So then when they were like, they're doing Juicy Couture Swim and like, that's a brand that Margo works on.
I was like, oh, okay, like, this is it.
And literally every three seconds, my sister's in the background of the show that I'm just like trying to watch on my own.
That's a crazy feeling.
Satchi said she did not, she knew that the shoot was going to be filmed.
She didn't know she was going to be mic'd.
She said she would have done her hair, which I appreciate.
It's giving Chris Appleton.
Um, but she was texting us the day after, she's like, guys, they put a mic on me.
I was like, girl, be careful.
Even though, like, nobody cares about you.
You're not like the sole focus, but like, who knows?
And they literally did pick up like a lot of what she said.
And she's like walking around and be like, we're going to do the orange one next.
And at this point, Ben had been watching with me and he was dying.
He was like, quoting Margo, we're going to do the orange one next.
No, it was so out of body to just be like, I'm not watching the show because Margo's on it.
And like, just to see my sister walking in the background and then like directing this shoot, like, just, and she's also the little sister, but she's in like a big position of power.
It's crazy.
I also wanted to ask Satchi, like, how did that photo shoot do?
Cause like, I don't feel like those pictures really move the needle.
I didn't even know that Juicy made swim.
I also wanted to ask Satchi, like, why did, not that she was wrong for it at all.
I actually think she was great for it, but like, what made them cast Grace Ann, like of all the models?
Was it the nader connection?
I imagine like they got this.
And I, by the way, I just want to say I know nothing.
I haven't asked Satchi this.
I imagine like they had to have a model, right, for this photo shoot.
And they got the opportunity being like, hey, use this inexperienced model who you probably wouldn't book, but the fact that you're launching swim is going to be on this big Hulu show.
It's kind of a no-brainer.
Yeah, sure.
We could use any model.
Let's use the one with the reality show.
But she does have like a great look for swimming.
She's definitely like sexier than, she has a sexier look.
Like Sarah Jane's like very like high fashion, like, you know,
uh, cheekbone, skin, makeup, et cetera.
Grace Ann like has that like va-va-vum-ness to her.
So she is right for a swimming campaign.
Yeah.
I really couldn't deal with her storyline about modeling.
Um
when it's clear and this was sort of like the underlying thing and I think that's why everyone was getting so frustrated with her What she wasn't saying is like she doesn't have like long-term Goals when it comes to modeling this sort of just like a means to an end so that she can like wait around for her man to propose and then she can go live in Palm Beach.
Yeah.
And if that, which is fine.
Yeah, that is fine.
But she also, it's like, she's allowed to want to make a living in between now and then.
So like, of course.
Yeah.
But she does have the ship on her shoulder.
Just like, I think she sort of doesn't want her success to be predicated on being Brooks Nader's sister, but like it is.
Yeah.
Embrace it.
But so she's like taking these like secret meetings in Ford, in Florida.
Well, they're taking them because you're Brooks Nader's sister.
Like you can't escape it.
So you might as well embrace it.
They should embrace it.
Like Sarah Jane really embraces it and i think she takes all the deals that brooks doesn't want yep and that it's like hey i'm frooks yeah and i think mary beth said that like a little shadily but just being like you know they're this dynamic duo they follow each other around but it was really like yeah sarah jane sucks brooks ass and that's why she's the most successful one yes but also i think that in their personalities they're really similar in terms of like their ambition We have to talk about the internet.
Which is like a good thing.
The ambition.
Like Gray Sand doesn't have that, but like Sarah Jane and Brooks do.
And they're both very like motivated so i think sarah jane encourages brooks to work that hard to take these jobs to take the ozempic and that they're just like more compatible in that sense we need to talk about grace and the intervention and the fact that probably season two storyline is grace and going to rehab like she's obviously an alcoholic you don't your friends and family don't have an intervention with you with like an intervention specialist like if you're not and so she's over here having like a kegs and legs party But you, you obviously are an alcoholic.
How did that party make you feel?
Horrible.
And honestly, like, why was it at four o'clock?
Did you see the sign that said like private party four to 8 p.m.
Maybe because they were filming?
No, or it was like a Darty.
That's fun.
Jackie, it was horrifying.
Like, honestly, Brooks should not have been at the idea that Brooks broke her reputation to be seen there.
The idea, the model doesn't get to say when the shoot is.
So the idea that Brooks would then have to turn down a big shoot.
And by the way, La Rude, which I thought it was La Rude this whole time, is a huge shoot.
It's like it was a big, it wasn't like she just booked something so she didn't have to go to that party, which I would have understood too.
Yeah.
No, they show later during the show how her pictures for La Rude are like on
billboards.
Scaffoldings and whatever.
Yeah.
Um,
the idea that Brooks wouldn't have done that to go to this party, like grow up.
Grow up.
She was such a baby about it.
And you don't even like Brooks in this moment.
Why do you want her there?
Then the whole party is going to like be about your big supermodel sister.
Like you're, she's damned if she does.
She's damned if she doesn't.
No, the party was really sad.
I really couldn't tell because a lot of times with these reality shows, they have to like throw parties to have scenes and there's no music playing and it's in the daylight and it's like, you know, it's just weird because they're filming it.
So I wasn't sure if it was weird because they were filming it or it was just like a weird party.
Um
I think it was just like weird.
I think what we saw was weird because they were filming and like, and also just the energy was off because like everyone was like bitter about Brooks and it's like, enjoy your party.
I love your cake, Spritz.
Like, enjoy your cake.
The show was just like such
for me, like I obviously knew who Brooks Nader was, like, beautiful bombshell, but and maybe this is just you know how we think of models just a pretty face but like brooks is so not like she really is this huge personality she's so funny like i was cackling at so many different things oh my god i was cackling when she's getting the massage and the witchy doctor was like i think she's pregnant and the girls come in they're like no she just has kinkles she's always had them they're genetic hilarious laughing so hard gleb we have to talk about gleb
Unfortunately, we do.
Gleb cheated on her and like the next day goes thirsting out, like, you know, really probably getting ahead of the narrative because he was planning all these threesomes behind her back while they were together.
And
something happens where she receives a text from him and they won't say on the show what it is, but it's big enough of a thing that she has to tell her parents about it.
Um, she's hysterically crying.
She's so ashamed and she's like afraid.
I mean, they keep alluding to like, kind of like him threatening her over something.
And the vibe that I got was like that he either has like videos of them having sex, they made like a sex tape together, or like just nude photos that you would send your boyfriend.
Um, Um, and he's sort of threatening, like, stop talking about me and you know, telling everyone that I cheated on you because I have this on you.
Um, and so she had to go tell her parents, who are like super religious, I love her parents, her mom is gorgeous.
Such good parents, her parents are such good parents, and even in the way, I was stalking all the sisters last night, they all make like reels together in promotion of the show, and the parents are with them for everything right now.
Like, I saw that she was on Jimmy Kimmel live, they're really keeping a close eye,
they're keeping a close eye on their girls, and and it's like the dad that just when you think like they are gonna push him over the edge they're like dude he's so religious and this is all so not
scandalous just when you think like he can't take it anymore he's just like he loves his girls he's an amazing dad yeah they're very supportive but they're also not like you know they have their their prince enablers yeah and like they try and like guide they're just good parents it's like it's nice to see It is really crazy, though, that not one, I feel like a lot of times when you grow up in a religious household, like so many of the teachings that you teach your kids like backfire, they end up being, you know, the total opposite.
It is just really shocking, though, that not one of them has remained like, you know, religious.
I guess one would be Mary Beth.
What is Mary Holland?
But the mom's name is Holland.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And by the way, Brooks is Brooks Clare.
I don't know if you picked up on that.
I did pick up that her dad called her Brooks Claire because I'm like, oh, they all have two names except for Brooks.
But no, she obviously dropped it.
Yeah.
Brooks Clare.
Brooks Leitch.
Mary Holland.
It's interesting that not one of them really stayed, except I guess if we were to say it would be Mary Holland, because she hasn't like fully dove in off the deep end.
She was saying she's been struggling with her faith, but her man is super religion, too.
Like, they need to get married.
If they're not together, still, I'll be so upset.
Oh my gosh.
I, I, I mean, this show, what I also really like about it is like
these most recent episodes were filmed in June or July.
Like, like it was a quick turnaround they filmed that whole and they teased the second season because they're talking about bezos's wedding so when does that come out when did they talk about that at the very end it was like you know next season or whatever it was like a hype and she's talking about it she's seeing someone they're like is it tom brady
oh did you see that trailer no i only saw the trailer
then she's like no um i'm seeing she doesn't answer then she's like the guy i'm seeing now like i have a lot of hope for like i think it's really has a lot of potential and they cut to her and some guy walking so it's filming from the back We don't see the guy walking onto like a helicopter Wait, how did I miss that?
I saw the preview of like Mary Holland and Jules like talking about moving to LA
Did you see that they were in Central Park?
Yeah, that was on the episode.
That was an episode?
Yeah.
Oh, I guess there's one episode I didn't watch then.
Oh, it was at the valley.
At the end of that episode, yeah.
Okay.
At the end of that episode, they tease like coming up on Snater Live.
What's the name of the show?
Love that Nader.
Yeah.
Yeah, it seems like a teaser for an upcoming season.
Oh, you're one episode episode behind.
I guess I am.
And I've kept up this whole time.
I've kept pace.
Oh, so you didn't see the DM.
What DM?
Can I just tell you?
What DM?
So they're at her pride dinner, Sarah Jane.
Yes.
And Grace Ann gets a DM being like,
one of your sister's boyfriends has a baby with my friend.
Right.
Who is it?
And like, and so it's pretty much assumed that it's...
Julie.
The Viscount.
Right after she's talking about like maybe moving to LA.
Like he asked her.
She's telling her parents.
She hasn't told her sisters yet, but she's like really thinking about it.
And then she gets this DM.
And the second she sees the screen, she doesn't even read it.
She starts crying because she hasn't been cheated on before.
And both times she found out via DM.
And so
next day, Mary Howe.
Mary Beth.
She's like crying, crying.
It's just assumed that it's Jules.
I don't think it is.
So the next day, they're like, Grace, you have to DM the girl back.
I'm be like, who are you talking about?
And they're actually filming their confessionals for Hulu when Grace gets the text and they say it's blank.
They bleep out his name, not Jules.
It's not anyone on the show.
I don't know who you made me sick for no reason.
I said, I just.
And Mary Beth was sick.
She had to ask him, do you have a baby with someone?
And he was like, no, I swear.
And like,
now he's like in the swamp, you know?
No, I know.
And that's why I went on the swamp office podcast, which I was so happy for Fran and Ria.
Like, like, this viscount is being accused of having a baby.
Like, he's swamped.
No, I know.
And like, when they were like talking shit about like his title and stuff, like, I wanted to fucking kill Grace Ann.
Like,
oh, no, actually, that was Brooks.
Sorry.
No, but Grace Ann like opened the door.
And also, yes.
And let's just keep leaving
and trailer sex, which was like really uncool.
Yeah, no, I was actually really mad at them because.
Mary Holland has the opportunity at like a really amazing life with this guy.
Like he's British royalty and he loves her and he's such a good guy.
And I felt like they were sabotaging it.
And that really pissed me off.
So who else is?
It's probably someone's old boyfriend or whatever that they, it's probably Gleb.
They bleeped out.
Yeah.
Like like 100% Gleb and they think that like fucking Gleb I can't stand he should be fired honestly like because they're both employees of ABC like not to be like a narc Karen HR they're both employees of
of Hulu he's clearly threatening her with like revenge porn I think that's because they were saying it's illegal um like you should be fired go tell Jimmy
yeah Jimmy why do you make yourself useful make yourself useful
and fire that freak I feel like there are also so many
he's just one of you know a rotating cast of
a dancer now he's a part of this loser duo i cannot wait to tune into dancing with a star tomorrow and i'm gonna be like i'm literally gonna be like sabotaging hilaria's partner
wow well i'm excited i have another episode to watch and i'm glad it's not jewels and i'm you know what i'm glad i know that now because i can't handle stress i know i was so upset i can't handle stress at this moment so it was really sad it's for the best that apartment is gorgeous i do think they all have their own rooms it seems like brooks's room there's the room with the hats on the wall yes that's grace and okay
and if it's just and then across they're going to share i feel like it'd be mary and mary holland would be sharing with someone i really feel like it's just the two youngest no but like grace and needs her space
no they also like she said she feels like a black sheep like she is a bit of an outsider yeah and she like The other girls, like, I don't know, I feel like they go along to get along more.
Just like, you know, keep it moving.
And like, she just like gets like, is more sensitive.
I have one more thing to say.
Mary Beth like calls herself the peacemaker.
And they all said like, yeah, yeah, she doesn't really get involved in the drama.
She's like the peacemaker.
And everybody goes to her when they're fighting with another sister to like talk shit about that sister.
And she's really not a peacemaker.
She gasses that person up.
She's like, yeah, she's kind of annoying.
She's like always like, she involves herself.
She talks shit.
She gasses up the person and makes them think that they're right.
A peacemaker like offers a rebuttal, says, Maybe, you know, let's take it slow.
I guess, but I've yet to hear really something come out of Mary Holland's mouth that I disagree with.
So I think she's just like a true.
I think she's just like a voice of reason.
And it's like, if she's agreeing with you, like, you're probably right.
And we'll go and talk to the other sister who's probably right.
And Sarah Ann being like going to Mary Beth and being like,
you know, everybody calls me a hoe.
It's like not my thing.
And it's like,
it's like not a real conversation.
And like, you, you've, you embrace that in the first couple of episodes.
You were like, yeah, like, I got roster, roster, roster.
And so now you don't like it.
You're saying she's a hoe for show.
I want to say that lesbian bar scene where they're singing Pink Pony Club was the cutest thing ever.
Like, oh, I didn't see that yet.
What?
Oh, oh, so I guess if Pride Dinner is the last episode, yes, yes.
I, I, Pride Dinner, I saw a preview for.
Yeah, okay, so do you want me to tell you about Pink Pony Club or no?
No, no, let me have my own experience with it.
It was really cute.
Let me see if I, if I feel the same.
I just love Brooks.
Like, I'm obsessed.
I followed her on, like, all platforms last night, like, being such a freak.
I was talking to her.
She's just really funny.
You don't, this is going to be like mean.
You don't expect somebody so pretty to be so funny.
Yeah.
And I love that they're so sisterly and like they're, they're so close.
Like, they're so close-knit.
They're close in age.
Like, Sarah Jane's 23 and Brooks is 28.
That's four girls in five grades.
And it's crazy that Sarah Jane is the youngest.
Yeah.
They're just like really cute, really like steeny and sisterly.
And like that's so real.
And it's nice to watch.
And they're so gorgeous.
They're sickeningly gorgeous.
I really am curious what Brooks look would look like with, and she like talks openly about the fact that anytime she's been told to like get a note shop, whatever, she does what she is told to do.
And that's why she, that's what she says, why she's so successful.
But I'm really curious because the rest are super natural right they don't look like they've had a ton of filler i'm sure they've had you know like yeah the usual the usual but they look really like the og versions of themselves and i was looking at pictures of brooks last night and she's so different looking i would love to know what she really would look like i actually don't like see the resemblance between all of them do you i think they all look alike besides brooks oh you think so oh i mean maddie holland is twins with her mother sarah jane who she reminds me of in addition to kylie when she's speaking victoria fuller
i heard people saying also racial Rachel Kirkana.
Victoria Fuller.
No, no, no, like maybe for you guys, Rachel.
For me, it's Victoria Fuller on my screen.
It's crazy.
And did you see my text?
Ben made the most amazing call about Mary Holland.
What?
She looks, but more so, like, her mannerisms and her talking.
She is twins with your friend Sam from college.
Sam Franklin?
Yeah, watch.
I texted you.
I said, Ben said that Mary Bat.
Oh, I didn't even see that.
When you watch tonight, just like think of Sam, you're going to be shook.
Oh, that's so crazy.
What?
Like, that's such a compliment.
Yeah.
So who's your favorite?
Brooks?
Of course.
Yeah.
Who's your favorite?
Well, yeah, probably Brooks, like, you know, at a glance, but like, I really love Mary Holland.
I'm really rooting for her.
Yeah, I mean, you are a Mary Holland, too.
She has such great style.
Even like, her business idea is actually not a bad one, but it's like, girl, just be a lady.
Like, don't.
Or go back to Deutsch.
Don't work that hard.
Agreed.
But yeah, no, there is a need for that for the independently employed to have financial.
It's called like QuickBooks.
But it's not, you know, they don't speak the language of Gen Z.
Okay, it's such a bad idea.
Like, I wanted to shake her.
And honestly, I would like to grace Anne in that moment being like, okay.
Sure.
It's an amazing show.
I cannot wait for season two.
Sign me up.
Yeah, same.
I can't believe it's over.
I thought like it was just, I thought it just.
No, it's not over for you.
It did.
I know, but like, I didn't realize that like this was last episode.
I thought it was coming out week, week, week, you know?
Oh,
yeah.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
Oh, so the preview.
I thought, I thought the whole series came out at once.
No.
Oh, who doesn't do that?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
So the video, the trailer that I saw is just the next week's episode.
Pretty sure.
Oh, she's talking about the Bezos wedding.
Oh, I'm sat.
Oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
I'm sat.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Everything's okay.
Okay,
great.
All right, you guys, we have to get this episode up.
It's such a long episode.
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