Another Unprecedented Friday: Friday, November 14th, 2025

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Speaker 1 Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

Speaker 1 It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show.
The fast-by things you need to know.

Speaker 1 We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

Speaker 1 I sound amazing.

Speaker 1 Welcome back to the toast. Happy Friday.
Now let me tell you something about today's co-host. The only person I would let record at 2 p.m.
Eastern Time.

Speaker 1 And that's only because she's been split right down the middle. It's Jackie Oh.

Speaker 1 Hi, everyone. Oh, hi to you.
So excited to be here on my podcast. On your it doesn't feel like mine today.
It feels like I'm doing your podcast today. Yeah, we're also using new equipment.

Speaker 1 So like it just feels so different. Everything is different.
We're podcasting like in chairs in my room. Usually when we do audio only, it's like from the bed because it has to be.

Speaker 1 But because we got this new equipment, we can sit in chairs in my room. Yeah, we took a trip to guitar center.

Speaker 1 I did not take a trip to the guitar center. So I've been home.
And even though I'm podcasting, it's a very like cozy, chilled environment. Just nurse.
No, no video.

Speaker 1 I have, you know, a couple hours ahead of me to just chit-chat with my girl. That's me.
And Claude's co-host for today fell through like a really

Speaker 1 flaky girl. So fucking flaky, that trout.

Speaker 1 It was trout.

Speaker 1 By the way, me and Trout are cursed because last Friday was supposed to be trout, and then it was her and Ben, which we have to talk about, like the first ever episode where neither of us showed up.

Speaker 1 Unprecedented. Unprecedented times.
And then this Friday was supposed to be trout. Two days ago, she was like, listen, I really can't make work.
And I'm like, oh, it's totally fine.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll pick up Ben, Margo, everyone's here. And then Jackie was like yesterday, you know, Claudia, I could maybe do a Patreon tomorrow.
I said, well, you know what? My...

Speaker 1 My 10 o'clock actually fell through. So to Guitar Center, we go.
Can you do the main show? So Jax is here. We're going to catch up, of course.

Speaker 1 We're going to do Fast Five, but I also want to talk about what's been going on in the toast realm, what's been going on in the world. I know you've tuned into a lot of the maternity episodes.

Speaker 1 If you guys haven't seen Jackie's Instagram yet, she gave birth.

Speaker 1 I gave birth, and I wanted to, before I came on the toast, like have all of my past week, actually month, like sort of backlog so I posted everything to Patreon today I've been working on like a vlog for the last month of like my last weeks of pregnancy which like wound up just the vlog wound up being like not what I thought it was gonna be

Speaker 1 yeah um because the end of my pregnancy like turned out to be like much longer than I thought it was gonna be not to spoil anything

Speaker 1 it's all in the vlog and then Claudia and I this week also recorded my birth story so like what happened once I got to the hospital

Speaker 1 you podcasted the week you gave birth and then twice the week after you gave birth yes but it's like I love this job and I want to like. I mean, you're just like sitting in bed talking.

Speaker 1 We're sitting in bed talking. It's like, let's just record.
And

Speaker 1 if I didn't feel up to it, I wouldn't put myself up to it. But this is like, in this moment, fun.
I don't have to like go upstairs.

Speaker 1 By the way, I can't walk up the stairs. Right, which is why we had to go to Guitar Center.

Speaker 1 And I certainly can't walk down the stairs. I think walking down would be harder.

Speaker 1 I've been telling you for years to just get like a handy capable ramp on that set of stairs, but this might be the time if like if not get better soon. Right.

Speaker 1 So everything about like the birth and when and how and how it all happened is in Patreon. Two episodes dropped today, also unprecedented.
Right. This has been the month of unprecedented.

Speaker 1 Unprecedentedation. Yeah, Olivia and Ben being on the toast on Friday and people loving it more than any episode we've ever dropped.
Like, okay, hurtful. Every comment.

Speaker 1 Olivia and Ben need to start a podcast. BSC and Trout, when is the pod coming? I saw a comment that was like, I wish this was the toast every day.
And it's like,

Speaker 1 that's not the toast then. No, that's also extremely hurtful.
Yeah, like

Speaker 1 then they should have their own, which they could have their own podcast, but that's not the toast. Yeah, it's not the toast.
But you know what? I had a pit because I was like sick and you were out.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, is this going to be a bad episode? Well, the sponsors, you know, pitchforks. Oh my God, I think it was our most downloaded episode to date.
Every sponsor was a part of that episode.

Speaker 1 It was extremely blessed. I'm cracking up.
And that wound up being the day that I gave birth. So I feel like we're really like off the hook because like one host was giving birth.

Speaker 1 So can we talk about like the the news we're making? I don't know if I mean, you do know this because even though you're not on TikTok, it's actually made its way to you.

Speaker 1 People are obsessed with our episode with Bethany. Can I just say before we talk about what people are saying, I've watched it twice now.
I was obsessed with it.

Speaker 1 I was so excited that you were having her on. Like, I think she's the perfect co-host because she, like you said on the show, has strong opinions.
Everything she says and does makes news.

Speaker 1 Like she can't help

Speaker 1 like literally. Everything she touches turns to gold.
So I was like, she's going to be a great co-host. And I loved her episode.
I was cackling. I love strong hot takes, even if I don't

Speaker 1 agree with them, though I feel aligned with her on most things. So that wasn't like an issue.
I thought it was an amazing episode. Such a sleigh.
Everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 1 And I have to say, and I said this on the episode with Jared Freed, and I actually really did mean it. I had the best time doing the episode.
Like, she's so

Speaker 1 sure of herself. You know what I mean? Like, she knows who she is and she leans into it.
And you know what? You do have to give her credit because everyone's making fun of her.

Speaker 1 We were just talking about this before we started recording. Everyone's making fun of her for saying, like, you know, I invented this and I invented that, but you know what?

Speaker 1 Like, she did invent the skinny margarita. And then she said, I coined the term food noise.
And I'm like, oh my God, LOL, she's like crazy.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, I actually took it upon myself to do a little bit of research. And let me tell you, one of the first recorded uses of that term is 2009 in her book.

Speaker 1 I'm actually going to make a TikTok about it because I feel bad. She's like getting dragged.
And she actually might have invented it. I'm being dead serious.

Speaker 1 I have done, guys, ask ChatGBT because they'll say, I'll explain this on my TikTok. The first academic use of it was 2023.
I'm like, okay, well, what about before that?

Speaker 1 They say she used it in her book in 2013 and 2009. And then the only other recorded use of the term was in a very obscure medical, like, peer review in 2005.

Speaker 1 She actually is one of the first people to use that phrase, just saying. And in 2010, she used it in an interview with Extra TV.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so 2009, 2010, and 2013 are like, it's all on record of her using the phrase as an anxiety and like lots of thoughts around food. Right.
And then after that, we didn't hear it until Oprah.

Speaker 1 Was Oprah

Speaker 1 Shame, Blame, and the Weight Loss Game. Jackie's favorite episode of TV ever.
And I didn't think Oprah coined it, but I thought like that was where it sort of got popularized. But no, she's dead on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. When she said it, I was like, how? But I do forget, like, that was, now we know her as like TikTok beauty girl.
That's her beat. But skinny is like her thing.
Skinny tings.

Speaker 1 Diet, food, culture, weight loss. Like that's really her thing.
She was a natural food chef. Yeah, but it's like, it makes sense.
Everything she says and does like just goes crazy on the internet.

Speaker 1 Yes. And I guess people are having a field day.
But I saw like so many toasters love it. It was so toasty.
It was so much fun.

Speaker 1 We watched it twice when I got home. We watched it twice.
I was like, Jackie, go back. Like two.
Like Claudia kept walking in and out of my room, so we wound up watching it again the next day.

Speaker 1 Like everyone wanted to see

Speaker 1 Jared Frank. I love him.
He was one of my favorite co-hosts. First of all, hysterical.
Yeah. Second of all, Ben.
Yeah. Ben.

Speaker 1 And when he said he got dressed up because he saw Bethany was so dressed up and I like made a comment about it. Like I love that he like listened to the episode so he knew to do his homework.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, I love him. When I come back, which I probably will before the end of the year, I'm going to have him come again.
No, he's such a great co-host. Yeah.
Like, kind of a dream. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, goaded. Goaded.
So, kind of, Jackie's maternity leave is going extremely well. We miss you.
So glad to have you here. Also, lots of news.
So, the stories are

Speaker 1 good and they cover a couple of things like that are a little bit old, but I wanted to talk to you about like Megan Markle at Chris Shannon's birthday party. Actually, I chose them a while ago.

Speaker 1 I forget what I even chose. You know what?

Speaker 1 There's been a lot going on in pop culture, like in the weeks that I've been off, and like so much of it, I'm like, so glad that I don't have to muster up a fuck to to get it. Right, right.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you. There's a lot of good stories, yes.
I'm obsessed with the Megan

Speaker 1 Harry pictures from the 70th birthday party. Claudia, like the way that you actually, yeah, no, I did choose it.

Speaker 1 The way that like on your dying deathbed, you just want to know what happened in the elevator with black Beyoncé and Jen Solanja.

Speaker 1 I want to know the real reason, not conjecture. You know, I thought Bethany had a pretty good

Speaker 1 take, even though, I mean, maybe I'm just so biased because I love them. Like everyone, the creme de de la creme was at that party Oprah was at that party like it it wasn't low brow so

Speaker 1 the idea that they would go to the party that it was good enough for them to go to but not be seen at doesn't totally make sense to me agreed there's a theory that like it was a certain it was like a remembrance Veterans Day vibe in Britain and that's why Harry was wearing that red pin and she wasn't wearing one so they didn't want there are a couple of different theories floating around and I have a story because like their teams are fighting now the Markle team and the Kardashian team and the thing is the pictures were already out there, so deleting them just makes it so much worse.

Speaker 1 Could they seriously be that stupid? Yes. To think that taking the pictures down changes

Speaker 1 means that they weren't at the party and that we don't know. I do think that they could be that stupid.
No, I don't believe it. I'm just letting you know that's what I think.

Speaker 1 I don't believe it, and I need to know. And if anybody knows, like, and I'm a steel trap, I will never say, but like for my own peace of mind, help us.

Speaker 1 I just want to know so badly because it makes no sense. It is so poorly handled.
It's such a bigger deal now.

Speaker 1 We wouldn't have even just let the pictures go. Like they're so nuts.
They're one in a carousel of 100. And didn't they go to another event that night? Baby, baby.

Speaker 1 So it's like, okay, you did your philanthropy. You did a big night out for the night.
It's actually funny. Bethany said you can't ride two horses at the same time, but there they were.

Speaker 1 They did their philanthropy and they partied with the Kardashians. 100%.
And nobody was mad that they were there. Are you watching anything TV right now?

Speaker 1 Not really. I watched Chad Powers before I gave birth.
And did you like? I did like it. It and your husband loved it too, right? Yeah, we both really liked it.
It was cute.

Speaker 1 Just finished, and I do not recommend you watch it. It is not a postpartum friendly show.
I mean, I still feel post-partem, and I was having like a lot of anxiety.

Speaker 1 It's called All Her Fault on Peacock. Everyone's talking about it.
Siobhan. Yeah, I've seen a lot of...

Speaker 1 Don't watch it. It's not for you.
I've seen a lot of commentary on it about how like it really highlights, you know, the silent burden of women. It is

Speaker 1 male incompetence. Oh, my God.
It's weaponized incompetence to the nth degree.

Speaker 1 And how like when the dad is watching the kids, like it's called babysitting, but like when you would never say that when a mother is with her children.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I, that was my favorite part of the show, like really the burden of womanhood. And I feel like actually it penetrated to Ben.
Like he was like, oh my God, that husband's such a dick.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 The show was amazing. Like we just finished it last night.
We stayed up. I haven't stayed up till midnight like in probably three months.

Speaker 1 We stayed up till midnight two nights ago, almost finishing all the episodes. It was excellent.
It was giving the vibe that it was based off of a book, but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 It was just like giving one of those books because it's like a thriller. Understood.
Well, now Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is out. So like I'll probably watch that next whenever I watch TV.

Speaker 1 I guess when you guys leave, I'll be watching more TV, but right now I'm just like hanging with my fam.

Speaker 1 I started Secret Lives of Mormon Wives last night and actually that's a great segue into what could be our first story. Okay.
If you want. Yeah, let's get into the stories.
Okay. I'm not afraid.

Speaker 1 So let me ask you a question, Jax. Are you ready for the fast five stories that you need to know? I am.
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Okay, first story, ready? Mormon wives, our girl Jessie. Do you know how to pronounce her last name?

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 Gatakara? No.

Speaker 1 Okay, if you say it right, like I will. Just Jessie.
I know her from her Instagram. She told me when she came on the show.
Okay. So do you know what's going on at all?

Speaker 1 There's rumors that she's getting getting divorced her house is for sale uh

Speaker 1 that's about it and so in the first episode i don't believe i believe this was news already it wasn't news like from the episode i believe it came out already but the whole marciano thing so there was so many questions last season like did he hook up with to me

Speaker 1 he actually had a brief emotional affair and a little bit physical with jesse that's what he says and jesse has admitted in the first episode huh yeah so what she says and so i only got through the first episode and half last night,

Speaker 1 which was really all about that, is that, yeah, Layla heard it and she actually has a really good friend, did not tell any of the other women, didn't film it, went into a car and brought Jesse and was like, listen, this is what he's saying.

Speaker 1 And she starts crying. She's like, no, it's true.
Like, me and what's her husband's name? Justin? No. Jordan.
Jordan. Jordan.

Speaker 1 Me and Jordan have been going through a really, really rough time for like two years. We actually took a break.
And yeah, I had an emotional fare when I went to LA. We actually made out twice.

Speaker 1 And Jordan's known about it for like six months. We're working through it.
And it's like been one of the worst things we've ever dealt with.

Speaker 1 And like now he's, but the only thing is that Marciano's telling everybody that they had sex. She's like, I swear to God, we did not have sex.
He's like, I woke up with cum stains in my pants.

Speaker 1 Like, what are you talking about? She's like, you got so drunk, you fell asleep. Like, there, what, what exactly happened is very much up for debate, but Jesse's not shying away from this.

Speaker 1 And she's proving herself to be honest. So, like, no, so like, if you're going to come truthful about the whole thing, like, she keeps calling it an affair.

Speaker 1 And she, like, like kissed someone twice when she was separated like that's not really an affair she's like making it worse so i don't know i do believe her yeah i'm inclined to believe her so now though there's like and this i i'm having a hard time figuring out like the timelines because it's before dancing with the stars

Speaker 1 So it's like a while ago and Macy and Michaela are still, they're 20 weeks pregnant. It's like a very long time ago.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Because it also happened like right after the first half of the season dropped in May.

Speaker 1 And this was the next day. Got it.
Okay. And that was filmed.
They had the Halloween party that season. So it was like late last year into, oh, they had the Christmas party.
So it's like early 2025.

Speaker 1 Okay. So now this story is that not only is her secret out, but there's rumors that they actually like are headed for divorce.
Their house is up for sale.

Speaker 1 And according to the mom talker, she and Jordan, who share two kids together, both have made mistakes for sure. So it's giving like he also fucked up.

Speaker 1 She said, mine being the affair and his being the emotional abuse, but it takes two to tango. So again, I'm only one episode in.
I don't know what she's talking about, but I find this really shocking.

Speaker 1 It is shocking. I thought they had one of the better marriages.
Yep.

Speaker 1 I'm just. And also, they have a lot of money.
That was interesting when they all talk about money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That they talk about Jesse like she's the richest, because I think Jay-Z Styles is very successful. Yeah.
I'm, I'm with her. Like, I'm with her.
Me too. Uh,

Speaker 1 I, whatever's best for her, but like, that's really tough to go through. And they also have like young.

Speaker 1 Five and two. Yeah.
It's underrated that she's a two-year-old. She was saying this when she she was on the toast that they filmed the first season, she was like a couple months postpartum.

Speaker 1 Oh, damn, yeah, or like maybe she'd had a one-year-old, but like, I don't, she doesn't give new mama vibes, she gives like I got it together.

Speaker 1 She really does. Did you also see that she gave her daughter bangs? No, I didn't.
Yeah, like she,

Speaker 1 her daughter has just like a lot of hair and she's like platinum blonde and she like gave her daughter bangs. She looks like a cute thing.
I did see that. It was a while ago.
I think it went viral.

Speaker 1 No, like a month, maybe a month. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was a while ago on the internet for me.

Speaker 1 Well, I just want to say, I hope she doesn't get divorced.

Speaker 1 I hope so too. I feel like they are a sh when they're good, they're a good couple.
And hopefully, the things that wrong that have happened can be repaired.

Speaker 1 And I'm sorry, but if Whitney and Connor can keep it together, 1,000%. What a testament.

Speaker 1 What a testament to commitment. 1,000%.
Oh, the best part of the first episode of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives is pretty much the entire episode takes place at an influencer event.

Speaker 1 And do you know what the brand is? The toast. Minky Couture, basically.
Minky Couture, one of our sponsors. Oh, my God.
Minky Couture has just been the goat this week.

Speaker 1 Should we tell everyone? I have fresh Minkies for everyone in my house.

Speaker 1 Everyone's like lipving the lap of luxury. And they also sent us a gift.
They sent us a really party gift. And actually, in the episode, it'll make sense.

Speaker 1 People, if you watch the episode, they're at their influencer event. The DJ's like playing music, and every time he rings a bell, you have to run and touch a number.

Speaker 1 And if you're on the number that he calls out, they're giving away designer bags, which is like a hilarious fun thing for a party.

Speaker 1 And lo and behold, what shows up at our doorstep for being such amazing partners of Minky Kator you guys they sent us two of probably the most beautiful chanel bags I've ever seen yeah and and we were stunned we were sent and also we didn't know like whose was for who yeah we got to choose but you got to choose first because you were the i believe i believe they said they sent the bags because they were grateful that i said they were the chanel bags of blankets to joey camasta to which jackie you know beautifully replied that i should have said they were the birkins of blankets so we could have gotten some birkins i'm totally kidding i'm so grateful i'm so grateful I'm so grateful.

Speaker 1 And so that's why Claudia got to choose hers first, but they were both so parchy. Claudia, actually, it was a burden to choose.
I was glad I didn't have to make a choice.

Speaker 1 I was actually thinking maybe leaving it down in Florida. Like, it could be my Florida bag and we could share both.
Oh, cute. I always need a bag here.
You do. Right.
You've been borrowing mine.

Speaker 1 I have. I've been borrowing a couple of Jackie's purses.
Let me say. Very nice.
Very nice things. So a good segue into the next story is a little bit still

Speaker 1 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but it's more so a Brooks and Aider subset. But I'm sure.
Brooks in in Dakota. I'm sure you saw her making news.

Speaker 1 There was like a Hulu event for the Secret Lives girls, and they invited other Hulu talent who happened to be in New York, which is Brooks Nader and her sisters.

Speaker 1 The women who are saving reality TV event, rescue our television. Somebody filmed from the little sneaky video.
Grace Ann Nader, and she posted it. It was Ganymede? It was Ganimal.
Of course, it was.

Speaker 1 That's what I saw. Okay.

Speaker 1 Her.

Speaker 1 So Brooks was talking.

Speaker 1 Having a conversation with Dakota, who is Taylor's ex-NBD, extravagant and everyone like the video went so viral because it looks like they're flirting it's like oh is this Brooks is like new man are you kidding me like yucky she would never you're telling me like how people think that like she's clearly just a girl who like flirts with a wall right and like the way she talks she's just like exudes sexiness so she could be talking to me i'm like oh she wants to have sex with me like she's just that sexy in no fucking world this is a girl who dated tom brady please you think she would ever give this guy a second look and it's not even like like he's like the greatest guy because I could understand going for a regular

Speaker 1 because he's going to be the guy who steps up. But that's not Dakota.
No, he's like the worst like cheater, loser ever. Oh my God, you guys, please stop.

Speaker 1 And everyone was tagging me and I'd be like, oh my God, they're dating. Are you guys serious? No, they're not dating.
But who she might be dating, which I ship wholeheartedly, is Sean White.

Speaker 1 So they were spotted chatting it up at an Alice and Olivia event. And And it was also the same day that Nina Dobrev like posted this like

Speaker 1 very salty TikTok. And so people think that they might be connected.
She's making like a lot of content seemingly about him.

Speaker 1 I just want to say I ship Brooks Neager and Sean White.

Speaker 1 I don't ship, but like that's better. We're getting warmer here.
From Dakota, you mean?

Speaker 1 They're getting warmer. I saw that she was in the car talking to him outside the car.
I don't feel like they're dating. I feel like, once again, she talked to someone.
She exudes flirtation.

Speaker 1 She's just that girl, right? Like, she can't talk to you without a rumor starting. So, she's talking to a single man, like, they are flirting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, whether she's going to like make a go of it, I don't think so, but I think she's just enjoying all that the city has to offer. I love that.
And didn't she buy a townhouse? She did. It's Pargy.

Speaker 1 It is extremely Pargy. I told this, I think, when Margo was on, and I'm sure you didn't watch it, but I don't think I told you this even offline.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you know, I'm on Brooks Nader's Close Friends list. Oh, and I can tell tell you, like, it's,

Speaker 1 it's been, it's been really amazing. Just like, let me know if there's anything I need to know.
Of course, find out. Of course, of course, but I'm sure it's just like more Brooks.
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 It's, it's a lot of Brooks and it's a lot of sisters. That's so fun.
Um, so you don't think that they're dating? Not at the moment. I think they just met.

Speaker 1 Let's follow along. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, next up, let's just talk about what we've been dying to talk about, Megan Markle and Prince Harry. So they're going back and forth with the Kardashians now because the photos were taken down.

Speaker 1 And when Bethany was on, we were like, well, did she ask him to get taken down or did the the Kardashians not want to be seen? There were a lot of rumors.

Speaker 1 And then Megan Markle and Prince Harry said, no, no, no, we didn't sign the consent forms that were being sent around.

Speaker 1 They said that? Yes, so we don't approve of these photos. Now the Kardashians say, what's forms? What are you even talking about? So Megan Markle, Prince Harry were never asked to.

Speaker 1 I don't think they could be so stupid as to just tell

Speaker 1 a straight-up lie. So Megan Markle, Prince Harry, according to People magazine, were never asked to sign photo consent forms at Chris Jenner's birthday party, an exclusive source has revealed.

Speaker 1 So here's what I think happened. I believe the show is filmed.
I'm sorry, the party was filmed for the show and everybody was signing forms like

Speaker 1 to be on the show, which they did not sign, which I totally respect. And I think they got like confused.
No, reality TV is too good for not good enough for them.

Speaker 1 I think they got confused, but the forms. That's what I think that.
That's a good theory because I was like, you can't be that stupid as to tell a bold-faced lie.

Speaker 1 And also, and I forget who I was saying this with, people don't realize Beyonce was at the party because she and she managed to get in without paparazzi, which means it could have been done.

Speaker 1 There was like a way for people who didn't want to be spotted outside. Megan and Harry chose to not only go to the party, but take the route that dropped them off by the gate, by the paparazzi.

Speaker 1 So they wanted to be seen there. Everybody knew they were there.
It wasn't a secret. I have no idea, really.
I have no idea. No idea, especially because the pictures are out.
They're screenshotted.

Speaker 1 So whether it was because of his baldness that like they didn't like how they looked, like they were already out there. So now we're zooming in.
Like now we're like, well, what are they hiding?

Speaker 1 Everybody's looking at the photos 10 times more. We were just scrolling past before.
Yeah. And like them being there was not even headline news.
That's where they should be.

Speaker 1 They were in a sea of other like A-listers and billionaires. So People Magazine were the ones that said the photos were deleted because the duo checked no on a consent form.

Speaker 1 However, a source close to the event now tells People Magazine that is not the case. There were no consent forms.
Okay, but I'm going with the TV show thing. Is that a good theory?

Speaker 1 I think it's a great theory. Because the other one doesn't make sense.
I also leave when Bethany said that Nicole Sanchez is Megan Markle without rules. I was on the floor.
And it's such a good call.

Speaker 1 Like, you get to this level of wealth and fame, and you could do two ways with it. Like, Megan takes herself so seriously.
She's so like particular about where she goes, what she wears, who she sees.

Speaker 1 Whereas like Nicole Sanchez got, what's her name? Lauren. Yeah, right.
Lauren Sanchez got access to this whole other world and is having the time of her fucking life.

Speaker 1 And the thing is, like, Megan actually doesn't have any rules. They left the royal family.
She's not constrained by rules. Like, she's constrained by her own, like, mental idea of what she should be.

Speaker 1 But if you were going to play by some like fake set of rules, you should have stayed in the royal family. 1,000%.

Speaker 1 They're just really not.

Speaker 1 They're like sucking.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the word I'm looking for is. They're just really screwing.
I feel like everything they're doing is bad.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 The word

Speaker 1 is bad. I remember when she started making content on Instagram and you were like, no, I think it's her.
I'm like, there's no way. She's definitely paying this big agency.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of what's wrong with their image from the projects they choose to the content they put out to just everything is I think that they're at the helm of everything that they do.

Speaker 1 Because they think they're smarter. Yes.
And they know better than everyone. And true smart people like know when to outsource when it comes to content.

Speaker 1 And I think that they're doing everything themselves. And you're right.
They know nothing about the world. Harry's never lived in the real world, first of all.

Speaker 1 He probably doesn't even know how to use a credit card. And she just has like very high

Speaker 1 hopes and ideals of what they should look like. And it's just, it's not working.
Yeah. And I want to say, like, I think the content's getting worse.

Speaker 1 definitely that's why i every time i see a picture of her i'm like i can't believe i thought she paid an agency you are 100 right when you said that it is all diy and it's giving diy like diy i'm surprised she doesn't post a throwback thursday at this point like she's living in another time did you see that on veterans day

Speaker 1 she posted that video what video so there is like a very famous old viral like back when viral was a thing video of harry when he was in the army he's doing like an interview. And then he runs off.

Speaker 1 And he runs off. And it's like, it's been made into a meme, actually.
It's like when you smell mom's cooking or something and like you get stuff in the middle, whatever you're doing, and you run.

Speaker 1 But what it really was, was he was called to service. And it was like a, I guess it's, you know, it's representative of whatever.

Speaker 1 And so on Veterans Day, she posted, like, as my husband always says, you know, once serving, always serving. Thank you to everybody who served like a lovely Veterans Day tribute.

Speaker 1 And then it was a carousel to that video, which is just so crazy. Because first of all, isn't Veterans Day like American? Well, they have Remembrance, but she posted it for Veterans Day.

Speaker 1 But it seems like they were the same day this year or something. It was giving same week.
It was giving the same week, but it did feel very close.

Speaker 1 So, like, I'm going to, I don't know for sure they weren't the same day. Let me check what day she posted on.
Hold on. Okay.

Speaker 1 Is she at Megan on Instagram?

Speaker 1 Or Duchess. No, she's Megan.
Okay. Okay, Madonna.

Speaker 1 So she posted the video.

Speaker 1 Oh, it wasn't. It was just the first.
But first of all, it was the first one. It wasn't the swipe to Carousel.

Speaker 1 How many followers would you think she has? Two million. Four.
I feel like she should have more, no? Oh, I guess. Like, but I guess she didn't take her, like, Duchess of Sussex handle with her.
Right.

Speaker 1 Okay, yes. We were just saying that three days ago.
That was Veterans Day. We were just saying that 4 million is a good number to have.
We weren't. No, we said 6 million.
No, but also 4.

Speaker 1 Like 4 is better than 10. Yeah, we were saying in a dream world, we would rather have 6 million followers than 10 million.
But also, because 10 million is getting bought.

Speaker 1 six is a little high i feel like four is the highest you can go without being like a soccer player

Speaker 1 right

Speaker 1 okay so here's what she wrote three days ago which was veterans day mind you as my husband says once served always served thank you to all who served sacrificed and continue to serve honoring you on veterans day and every day so the first picture in the carousel is the video and then the second is a picture of harry and a fellow um veteran like an older guy who is definitely british now let me ask a question does veterans day include Britain?

Speaker 1 Like is it a global day?

Speaker 1 No, UK does not have Veterans Day. They have Remembrance Day.

Speaker 1 And I believe Remembrance Day was like Friday of last week, like the difference of a couple of days, but she posted Veterans Day using British pictures, which is just weird. I guess.

Speaker 1 I wasn't looking too much into that. And you know, I'm hypercritical, but I'm going to let you.
You're busy. I'm going to let that part go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 They're just.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just, it's a calamity over there. How am I doing with the stories, by the way? Like, they're so random.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 some of them I'm surprised that, like, that that's what you want to talk to me about. Like, what? I don't know.
But I feel like you also switched it up to make Salt Lake the first story. I did.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't like first story energy. In another world, Megan would have been first story.

Speaker 1 And then Secret. And then Brooks.
And now this. But you know what else we're doing?

Speaker 1 We're doing one more Patreon while we're here where we catch up on pop culture from the last few weeks because there are a couple stories that I'm like chomping at the bit to talk about.

Speaker 1 And so that's where we'll do like a total catch up and I can give you like my thoughts on the show. I'm gonna tell you going on new heights.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm gonna go through all the stories that you did and let you know which ones I'm so glad I missed. Right.
And which ones like you need to discuss. And which ones I'm like bursting with takes.

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah.
Well, our fourth spoken story. So I'm just co-hosting today.
Like this isn't even a, this isn't like a major catch up. It's fast five.
Oh, yeah, no, this is regular, Dagular.

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Okay, fourth story. There is drama at the Wicked Premiere.

Speaker 1 Did you see the video? Yeah. So the man who grabbed Ariana Grande and Singapore Red Carpet has been charged in court.

Speaker 1 The video took the internet by storm because, I mean, there were so many things about it. This guy's like a known prankster who goes up and touches celebrities.
He's done it to Katy Perry.

Speaker 1 He's done it to...

Speaker 1 The weekend. The weekend, he gets on stage at concerts a lot.
And this time he penetrated this big global premiere. He ran towards Ariana.
Cynthia came. You have to watch a video.

Speaker 1 I've seen it from 100 angles. I can't see enough angles of it because it's just so crazy.
And of all the people for, you know, him to do this to, Ari is, like, like not one to be messed with.

Speaker 1 She obviously like has a lot of trauma.

Speaker 1 She's like so clearly shaken up. And I think Cynthia feels like very protective of her.
And it was just like a really crazy video.

Speaker 1 And he's like, he's going to get charged or whatever, but he'll continue to do this. I think it's like for a fine.
I just

Speaker 1 hate people like this. Yeah.
People whose job it is, like

Speaker 1 not just celebrities, but like in general, like prankster.

Speaker 1 Hate. Yeah, I feel like we had

Speaker 1 a time where there was a lot of it and it felt like we've had a bit of a reprieve. That's true.
Um, now that it's coming back, I just don't know what we can do to deter people from doing this.

Speaker 1 Like, how can we punish them? And I feel like now that it happened, all the videos of him doing it to other people have like come to the surface, and I've seen them all now.

Speaker 1 And it gives me quite literally no hope in people who are security guards. Like, they always get like so easily bested by this freak.
He has nothing going for him. No, nobody can catch him.

Speaker 1 He's like, not even

Speaker 1 like he's like a ninja. Like, he gets in everywhere.
I wonder if Ari can press charges. So he is, if he's found guilty, he faces a fine of up to

Speaker 1 what will be $1,500 American dollars. Local media has reported that he intends to plead guilty.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's Australian. He's 26 years old.
His name is Pajama Man. Oh,

Speaker 1 he goes by Pajama Man on Instagram.

Speaker 1 P-Y-J. I thought it was like a name.
I was trying to pronounce it right. No, his Instagram is Pajama Man on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Literally.

Speaker 1 He often posts on social media, getting close to celebrities, at events and premieres. He has previously found his way on stage of Katy Perry concert, weekend concert, the chain smoke and smokers

Speaker 1 and others. On his Instagram Thursday, he posted that he was free after being arrested.
I think she should press charges if she can.

Speaker 1 There are a couple of videos that I've seen that, like, give me the willies. Remember that guy who, like, picked up Gigi Hadid in Milan? He was, like, the old one.

Speaker 1 It's not the same guy, I don't think, but he was the guy who was like, for years, the prankster. And then remember that girl who barged the Chanel Fashion Show.
They're a couple, you're right.

Speaker 1 It did feel like

Speaker 1 there was like an era where it was happening a lot, and it was like trendy to do. And it hasn't happened in a while, but his was just like particularly scary.

Speaker 1 I think because Ari was like so shaken by it, and then like Cynthia's reaction was just hilarious. Yeah.
She's a queen, honestly. Yeah.
Oh, is it out or Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 I don't think it's out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like

Speaker 1 no one's seen it yet. Yeah.
Bethany's never seen Wake Nothing. I loved that.
Shocking. Yeah.
Because she's so like

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like you don't have to be on everything and like know of everything. Just be knowledgeable of the things that you do know.

Speaker 1 I'm like embarrassed to just do the fifth and final story because like you said, my stories were weird and like this one's really weird. It's not really weird.
It's just like red.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I don't want to switch it. Just tell me what it is and then I'll tell you if I, if I can,

Speaker 1 if I can possibly care. Vine's coming back.

Speaker 1 That's something I would pick Fifth and Vinyl on a Friday. That feels right.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
So thanks to Jack Dorsey. And you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to judge, I'm not judging story selection because I know how it feels.

Speaker 1 I know how it feels and it hurts. So a monumental comeback is underway as Jack Dorsey, who was the co-founder of Twitter.

Speaker 1 He has personally provided funding for Divine, an ambitious project dedicated to resurrecting the beloved short form video platform, Vine.

Speaker 1 The new venture, which is led by former members of the original Vine team, is not just rebuilding the app, but it has secured the entire original Vine archive, which is like what people are excited about.

Speaker 1 In 2022, Elon Musk said that he was going to

Speaker 1 reboot Vine from Twitter, but it's totally separate now.

Speaker 1 And I think

Speaker 1 why they're doing it is it's going to be a video platform where you're not allowed to use any AI-generated content. So it's going to be free from AI.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And I respect like people taking a stand against AI, but I just have to say like nothing has changed my life for the better more than AI. I love AI.
Everything I see.

Speaker 1 Are you on like, have you seen the videos of like newborn baby AI? Running out of the hospital.

Speaker 1 Sorry, joyful. Like just joyful.
I know it's bad and I know we could like talk about the existential threat.

Speaker 1 Love. But we're having fun.
Not only having fun, I'm moving and working more effective than I ever have. Like every,

Speaker 1 I just love it. Yeah.
I just love it.

Speaker 1 I don't need buying back. It's also like so weird to me that they shut it down.
Like it wasn't that much of a flop. Like they kind of like closed it.
Gave up. yeah

Speaker 1 when instagram started doing video yeah i don't i don't i don't understand um so now that like video is really spoken for in terms of tick tock and instagram reels yeah it's the perfect time to bring back that now that we've all sort of settled into our apps no but also um

Speaker 1 Instagram did reels and while I do find myself actually using reels quite a bit now it still didn't really penetrate TikTok's like no it did it didn't take away from like TikTok's rev share it's just meant like like more videos, more creators, more different ways of using the platform.

Speaker 1 And I think it's been good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 My other fifth and final story, which I just wanted to pull up really briefly, is that Andy Richter says that he's on GLP Once, which is just like a turdy-coated story. That is really funny.

Speaker 1 I heard that, spoiler alert, he went home from Dancing with the Stars. I have been, I've been slipping on watching Dancing with the Stars

Speaker 1 since I've been on leave. Well, you should just pick back up now because we had to like kind of drop the dead weight, Danielle Fischel and Andy.
Now it's Ting LF? Oh, yeah, last week.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll watch. Now it's

Speaker 1 like, she's so sweet. No, she's really cute.
Oh, yeah, she left before Andy. Yes.
That's what was really crazy last week. Okay, that's really funny.
And now it's like anyone could go.

Speaker 1 There's nobody who's like visibly bad. Like Elaine Hendrix is up there with the best of them.
Yeah. So it's honestly like Elaine and all the young things, the influencers right now.

Speaker 1 So it's Elaine and the five. Dylan, Robert Irwin, Alex Earl, Whitney, and Jordan Chiles, who, yeah, is crushing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe I'll jump back in.

Speaker 1 Sad to see Andy go. How was his final dance? I didn't see it.
It was pretty cute, actually. He wore like muscles.
Well, that was like for the second dance he did with Caroline.

Speaker 1 Now they're getting stupid. Yeah.
Now everybody dances twice. That's really crazy.
Yeah, and last week it was like dancing with other partners, but this week it's like official.

Speaker 1 You and your partner, two choreographed dances.

Speaker 1 And the theme is the prince this week. Prince the Man.
Prince the Man. Okay, that's a that's not a theme.
What's that from?

Speaker 1 Never been kissed. Famous couples.
That's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Famous couples throughout history. Of course.
That's not a theme. I need to watch that movie again.
It's really been a long time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you need to brush up, even though Prince is like a pretty good theme.

Speaker 1 I'm just like looking through the rest of the stories to make sure I didn't miss anything. You know, Amy and TJ are engaged.

Speaker 1 They found a piece of Hitler's

Speaker 1 DNA, not penis, DNA, and they found a genetic disorder. So assuming he probably had a micropenis.
And one ball. Cracking.
Also, do you know that Bethany was talking about Tiki Barber?

Speaker 1 Yes, I figured, well, I didn't figure it out. The commenters did after when she couldn't remember who she was.
It was so frustrating because that's a like. Housewives.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then she wound up being on housewives. I wonder if she even knows that they wound up on housewives.
I know.

Speaker 1 And you got to get her back. I totally forgot.
Like, I honestly, I barely remembered that that's like his story. One more thing I just want to share.
I don't know if you saw it.

Speaker 1 I saw this on TikTok and I almost chose it as a story today. Remember Jimmy from Love is Blind? Yeah, he's going on Perfect Match.
Do you know he's had the most insane glow-up?

Speaker 1 No, and it's rumored he's going on perfect match. That wasn't confirmed.
So I saw, I don't follow him, but he came up on my TikTok. I guess he's been documenting his journey with hair plants.

Speaker 1 What are they called? Hair plugs. Hair plugs, excuse me.
He looks so hot. Okay, so let me show you the before.
I just want him and Jess to be ready.

Speaker 1 Okay, the before.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. If he is going on perfect match, Jess needs to go back on perfect match and they need to know.
Now he's eligible. I'm sorry, like that's just like

Speaker 1 something that's like a a loose end that's not been tied up for me. He's been very open, actually, about the whole procedure.
Guess how much it cost? I don't know. $11,000.

Speaker 1 Okay. Worth every penny.
You guys look so different.

Speaker 1 I need to talk to him and dress. Yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 I'm still at the restaurant. Every time I watch Love is Bine, it bothers me.
Oh, I didn't get to talk about Love is Bine reunion.

Speaker 1 I was off.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think I was on it with Liz Woods. Yeah, go.
Sparkle Megan.

Speaker 1 She followed me, by the way. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'm so team Sparkle, Allie, and Casey. Of course.
The

Speaker 1 losers. Losers.
Oh, my God. I wanted to kill those girls.
They were being so lame, like having trying to have a moment. And to me, like Sparkle, Sparkle and Jordan are both really good people.

Speaker 1 People, it seems like normal people. And they get along.
They went on biophiles together. So I don't have to take a side.

Speaker 1 So when I'm thinking about like who are the girls that are like the best of the season, like it's really like Sparkle and whoever she's like friends with, that's like a very strong endorsement.

Speaker 1 So the fact that Casey, I didn't like how she acted on the show agreed i thought her reunion uh was very humble yeah i think she patrick was just living for being a victim yeah i thought she like came in with like the right attitude a good very conciliatory and apologetic and um

Speaker 1 honest really and i'm ready to move on from it you know and people just like wanted to drag her

Speaker 1 but her like sparkle stamp of approval means everything meant everything plus allie too i'm also team allie who's all

Speaker 1 of course the nurse the nurse who was with um what was his name Anton. Wow.
It's crazy how, like, literally these people leave your brain the second the show ends. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you going to be okay about Jordan? I know you're going to miss him. I loved him.
Like, seriously. And I was so team him and sparkle.

Speaker 1 And hearing her talk, and I just actually was talking her Instagram. She loves being a mom.
Like, I'm so happy for her, but it should be Jordan's baby. Like, it should.

Speaker 1 Because if you listen to her say, like, this guy's not the great love of her life. Like, they actually.
He's married Lindsey Hubbard. Yes.

Speaker 1 And it didn't really work out, but they're trying to make it work to be a family. And that's great.
But this isn't the great love of her life. So, you know what?

Speaker 1 She's got to get back together with Jordan. Sorry.
She may not want to hear it.

Speaker 1 In time. Right now, it's good for the family.

Speaker 1 You're Jess and Jimmy. I'm Sparkle and Jordan.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. We'll keep an eye.
We'll keep you updated on both. We need to keep them on our list of

Speaker 1 people we're waiting for. Quarterly check-in.
Yes. Yeah.
I don't have my notebook down here. Well, Jax, I know you're due for something, whether it's a feeding or whatever.
So I'll let you go.

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Jackie has her vlog up of her last couple of weeks of pregnancy and then her full birth story.

Speaker 1 And at some point this weekend, one more episode will be uploaded.

Speaker 1 If you're dying to hear Jackie's thoughts on all the pop culture she's missed in the last two weeks, she's going to be giving us like a deep dive on all of that TV news, etc. So thank you, Jackie.

Speaker 1 Be sure to follow my co-host today on Instagram at Jackie Ashre. And we will see you on Monday.
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