Gabbin' Gals with Ben Soffer: Wednesday, November 5th, 2025

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Speaker 0 Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

Speaker 1 It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

Speaker 2 We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

Speaker 2 I sound amazing.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the toast and a happy... What day is it? Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 2 It's right. It's hump day.
I'm all for clamped because we are recording from Florida. My co-host is my husband.
My Rose is also my husband. Hey, Ben.
Hi, Andarn.

Speaker 1 I'm doing wonderful, my sweet P. How are you?

Speaker 2 Why don't you move the microphone to your mouth? That's what that's what you're doing. They can hear me.
That's what you do on a podcast. They can hear me.

Speaker 1 You talk into the microphone. Wow, it started early.

Speaker 2 Why don't you just move the microphone close to your mouth?

Speaker 1 Early. Okay.

Speaker 2 Or like sit and then the microphone goes like. So when you're doing a podcast, you're supposed to talk into the microphone.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you know that because you're like kind of new to the podcasting game. Move the microphone back, like pull it back.

Speaker 1 We were totally fine. No, no.

Speaker 2 Why is it so far away from you?

Speaker 1 My God, could you be more annoying? Like we were literally fine.

Speaker 2 You checking into it? You good? Like look how close it is to my mouth.

Speaker 2 How's that? But then you do not want the wrath of the toasters. How's that? Just ask Mary Orton.

Speaker 2 You do not want the wrath of the toasters coming after you because you've not spoken into the mic correctly. Just ask yourself.

Speaker 2 It's good. Thank you.
You're welcome to the toasters. Hey, Ben, this is your first time co-hosting since Jackie's maternity leave.
You were here, but in character on Friday.

Speaker 1 I was, yes. And let's talk about Halloween.

Speaker 1 What a beautiful day Halloween is on the toast.

Speaker 1 Wow. It really is just a day of fun.
Oh my God. Okay.
A day of laughter. Yes.
Just a day of gals being gals.

Speaker 2 And you're one of the gals.

Speaker 1 Gabbin with the gals.

Speaker 2 If you had a podcast, would you call it Gabbin with the gals?

Speaker 1 I would call it Gabbin with the gals. Or you could call it Gabby.
Me and Joey Camaster.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, after you came on the toast and Joey Camaster came on the toast, there's a lot of fanfare for you and Joey to do some sort of like cooking show or some project.
project.

Speaker 1 I love Mr. Comasta.
Joey is not only just like,

Speaker 1 he's so amazing, but he's also so underappreciated. And I'm very thankful to you for platforming him because Joey deserves the world.

Speaker 2 Okay, you're being like really nice this morning. Am I right? Yeah.
What do you want? No, I just want to

Speaker 2 mean to me about the mic. I'm going to go to the next one.
Oh, you want to golf today? You want to golf today?

Speaker 2 Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 And all I have to say is, Dave Portna, you let a real one go.

Speaker 2 Well, he didn't let Joey go. Joey left.

Speaker 1 Dave Portna, you didn't pony up enough cash to keep a real one.

Speaker 2 Joey's, I agree, such a star. I love having him on the toast because I agree.
Platforming him is like kind of my life's mission. He's so funny.

Speaker 1 He's so funny. He's fantastic.
And me and Joey have cooked together before. So if you guys haven't seen that, just like scroll deep in my Instagram and look for a gorgeous.

Speaker 2 People aren't asking you and Joey to cook together for bread spicy. They want like a show, like a cooking podcast on it.

Speaker 2 Would it be called Gabbin with the Gals?

Speaker 1 Probably not.

Speaker 2 Grilling with the Gals?

Speaker 1 Grilling with the Gals is good.

Speaker 2 Because you are trans and so is Joey. So like you have to do something with the gals.
We are trans. Like Joey has said he has T-scars.
We are trans. He had top surgery.

Speaker 2 And like you're always dressing like a woman.

Speaker 1 I am. I am.
I'm a cross-dresser. I've been cross-dressing since I was a young man.

Speaker 1 13 years old. Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1 My mom sent us that photo that also gave us both a jump scare.

Speaker 2 Ben's mom found these like old pictures and it was Ben. It was either like Purim or Halloween from when you were what? 13.
13. Dressed as a woman.
The thing is, you have passions.

Speaker 1 The thing is, I'm gonna dress like a woman

Speaker 1 we know one it's funny two it's freeing and three oh wow freeing okay okay

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 2 i thought we were joking but you're like being weirdly serious

Speaker 1 it's funny it's freeing that said the long hair my god it's so hot and itchy and terrible anything on my face the makeup that you do horrible feels you don't really have what it takes to be a woman i only have what it takes to be a 70 year old irish woman yeah named named you vaginal

Speaker 2 like that is really who i want to be and until i can be that i'm not really going to be myself now for anyone who's new here ben is my husband he's the host of the good guys podcast founder and ceo of spritzsociety.com um

Speaker 2 chef to the stars what else are you that was pretty good yeah um and he's one of my favorite co-hosts i'm so glad you're here we tailored the stories a little bit today to things that you maybe i wouldn't normally choose but you know you have a wide array of interests and i wanted you to be intrigued.

Speaker 2 Ben and I did watch Dancing with the Stars last night.

Speaker 1 We did. I'm an avid watcher.

Speaker 2 We were obviously like a little bit distracted because just like the horrible news. Oh, and we're in Florida, by the way.
I don't know if I said that.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you guys can tell from the studio.

Speaker 2 And never been more happy to not be in New York than we were last night. Totally.

Speaker 2 So the second half of Dancing with the Stars, that kind of fell to the back burner because we were busy watching the news.

Speaker 1 Talking to your mic. You're like talking over your mic.
So I don't know if the toasters, like, I don't know if like your audio comes out of your neck,

Speaker 1 but like this is literally how you were talking.

Speaker 2 Thank you, by the way.

Speaker 1 And so just, I would highly recommend talking into your mic.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to be disgusting like you. Thank you for the tip.
I appreciate it because I care about the audio quality of this show. Very good.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 And by the way, do let me know if it happens again. I would appreciate the feedback.

Speaker 1 This was very like those cancer commercials.

Speaker 2 No, the smoking commercials.

Speaker 1 Nothing will ever be the same again.

Speaker 1 Not even this.

Speaker 2 It's actually not funny.

Speaker 1 No, those were not funny. And they scared me straight.

Speaker 2 No, they didn't. No, because I had a severe vape addiction.
Let's talk about that. Okay.
It has been almost two years.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, credit to you for going cold turkey. Thank you.
Nobody really, I think that you are the only person in the world that was addicted to a vape.

Speaker 1 One day said, I don't want to smoke that vape anymore and just didn't.

Speaker 2 Well, it wasn't that easy, I'll say that, but also.

Speaker 1 You made it look easy.

Speaker 2 Let's talk about the day I quit the vape. Do you remember? We were in Utah.

Speaker 2 It was January 1st, right? And we went out for lunch. Do you remember that at all?

Speaker 1 Oh my God, you were so mean.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was in like it really makes you irritable. I will say it only lasted a few days, but that day one where I was just really itching for it and couldn't take it.

Speaker 2 And I literally throw them all away. I was in a really foul mood.

Speaker 1 You had borderline Tourette's. It was like we were just like having a conversation.
You'd just be like, fuck you.

Speaker 1 She's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Fat, fuck, fuck you. Fuck you.
And it's like, okay, like, I get it. I get it.
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 1 That's exactly. Yeah, no, it was so weird.
It was just like, it's beautiful out. It's snowing, but it's not.
Oh my God, the snow is falling. Fuck, fuck.

Speaker 1 I'm like, no, I didn't need that.

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was bad. But I will say it only lasted like two days.
Yeah. And we, like, we went out to lunch and just like, I was just insatiable.
And I ate a lot. Like, you would just, it was horrible.

Speaker 1 It was a horrible day.

Speaker 2 It was a horrible day, but we have cleansed. We've cleansed and we've moved past it.

Speaker 2 And how does it feel to not have a wife who's a vapor anymore? I feel like we don't talk enough.

Speaker 2 And I've recently been bringing it up because now that I'm not pregnant, like I can vape, but I choose not to.

Speaker 2 And I just feel like I actually don't give myself enough credit for quitting the vape.

Speaker 1 Like, no, kudos to you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 I'm happy that you don't do it anymore for Rupee's sake.

Speaker 2 Of course, but like also for the sake of, you know, my fellow peers. Sure.
My lungs.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 2 I'm not getting in trouble at restaurants anymore.

Speaker 1 No, but like that's like restaurants need to chill. Oh my god.
No, I need to chill. I completely agree.

Speaker 1 It's so not a big deal. I completely agree.
It's not a big deal. I completely agree.

Speaker 2 It's it.

Speaker 1 I completely agree. Focus on things that matter.
I completely agree. Focus on things that matter.

Speaker 2 I completely agree.

Speaker 1 Everybody's crashing. All these airlines.
There's so many problems. You worried about my vape?

Speaker 2 I completely fucking agree.

Speaker 1 It literally smells like shit everywhere. Everywhere.
Like people on it. People need to stop farting on planes.
Like non-stop. Do you agree? Like, people are just like shitting themselves on planes.

Speaker 1 Also, people need to stop reclining on planes. Okay.

Speaker 2 Oh, I agree. And that's like a controversial take because I talk to Brian about it all the time.
I don't believe in reclining on planes. I think it's like the most evil thing you can do.

Speaker 2 You absolutely can't.

Speaker 1 Unless you and the person in front of you have a mutual agreement that you're both going to recline.

Speaker 2 No, but it's a domino effect because you can agree with the person in front of you, but what about the person in front of that?

Speaker 1 There actually needs to be a reclining row.

Speaker 2 That's what it is. No, no, there needs to be an airline for reclining.

Speaker 1 Sorry, not row. There needs to be a reclining column.

Speaker 1 Rows, columns.

Speaker 2 Column, yeah. Okay, Excel spreadsheet.
Yeah, so columns.

Speaker 1 Rows, columns. So column A is the reclining row.
Would you agree? The windows are recliners.

Speaker 2 No, the thing is, it's just a different breed of human being, and you should be on different airlines. Yeah, I agree.
I would go as far as to say like you should be in different countries. Sure.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Sure. Reclining airline.

Speaker 2 Recliningairline.com. I love it.

Speaker 1 I'll sign up. Actually, I won't because I don't like to recline.
So I love it.

Speaker 2 What's going on with the good guys? Do you guys hear like all the shit we talk about you or you just like toot us out? I tune you out.

Speaker 1 Does Josh know? Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 And Josh knows like it's a joke, right? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, for sure.
No, but it's always apparent when like somebody comes up to us in the street and is like, oh my God, I'm such a fan of the good guys. And you like give them a look.

Speaker 1 Like you just like want to throw them over.

Speaker 2 But it's like a joke with us and the listeners too. Like they come up and they're like, I'm I'm a toaster and I'm also a moron.
Sorry, turdy. Like it's like this fun thing we're all doing.

Speaker 1 But like, by the way, it's great.

Speaker 1 We're joking. And you're platforming.
We're platforming, right?

Speaker 1 Like you can joke and be mean. That said, you're still talking about us.
And let me tell, you okay?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you had heartburn or something.

Speaker 1 How dramatic are you?

Speaker 2 I was going to say something and I like punched my chest.

Speaker 1 I didn't grow up. Like, it was the most dramatic thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 I don't even remember what I was going to say now, but sorry.

Speaker 1 The good guys is a wonderful podcast.

Speaker 2 All right. I didn't come.

Speaker 2 I didn't come on platform to spew hate okay so you were asking how the good guys is yeah how you doing we're doing great you've had some pretty big guests recently david dobrik we have john stamos

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 2 this episode made some headlines well of course with the lori laugh and of it all and i'm glad somebody came on and defended our girl but i was talking more about jen affleck uh yes uh jen affleck did i talk oh yes we did during the john stamos episode yeah and she posted about it did you see she did yes she posted that like john because john called her cute yeah and you guys for why were you guys talking about dancing with the stars

Speaker 2 because it's like current and happening oh so you were doing like hot topics with john stame that's an excellent question i have no idea why we were talking about that and john stame yeah him and i are like on a nickname basis ever since he posted me on his instagram got it well he would love to come on the toast i'm just saying well when i was in la and i was gonna be doing maternity leave there which can we talk about how glad we are not to be there

Speaker 2 i was definitely gonna have john stame yeah so that's why i call him stame big time stame bts what a great guy you love him yeah what's he like in person

Speaker 1 just like nice

Speaker 1 uh cool

Speaker 2 Do you have any like more interesting words than nice and cool?

Speaker 1 No, because like sometimes these like celebrities are so narcissistic and like you meet them and you're like, oh, I can't wait to get away from them. They're awful.
Yeah. John is not that.

Speaker 1 John was actually like humble and cool, but super talented. Yeah.
He does such a wide array of things.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like he like he told this story. What's Olaf's name?

Speaker 2 Josh Gadd.

Speaker 1 Josh Gadd. Couldn't perform in Jesus Christ Superstar.
Is that the name of the show?

Speaker 2 Do you know the name of anything? No, I don't.

Speaker 1 Big show. Okay.
Huge show. Uh-huh.
And they called John an on Broadway? Uh, it wasn't on Broadway. It was somewhere else.
Okay. With from Wicked.
What's her name?

Speaker 2 Oh my God, Cynthia Arrivo.

Speaker 1 Thank you. And with, I think that's all the people that I know that are in it.
And they called him. They're like, Olaf dropped out.
We need you, John. 24 hours notice.

Speaker 1 He didn't know any of the lines to anything. He didn't know any of the words to the songs.
Learned it, performed, crush it.

Speaker 2 Crush it. Wow.

Speaker 1 On like a huge stage with Cynthia. Imagine singing with Cynthia Aretho when you don't even know the lyrics

Speaker 1 if I closed my eyes I wouldn't have even known it was you I would have thought it was Cynthony Synthony it's a symphony no wow wow wow oh can you do the defying gravity run let's hear it

Speaker 2 what's a run is that like is that is that like when I have too much French onion soup no a run in vocal I know you're not like a singer like me so a vocal run is like when you do like ho ho

Speaker 2 you know like a run So, the defiant gravity run is like,

Speaker 2 and cough again on the podcast, and you will find out what a boot up your ass feels like, okay?

Speaker 1 A boot?

Speaker 2 I'm wearing a loafer, okay.

Speaker 2 Okay, ready? Ben Loki actually has like a decent voice. You would never know because he's married.
Yes, okay, let's hear it.

Speaker 2 What was that face you made?

Speaker 2 And what was it? The shoulder. That was.

Speaker 1 You look like a fish.

Speaker 1 He looks like a fish.

Speaker 1 Stop it. Sorry.

Speaker 2 You looked like a fish, by the way. Like, you were like this benz.

Speaker 2 Ben, you were literally like...

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2 I did just get the ick. Was it good? Oh, no.
Sorry. I forgot to say that.
It was bad. It was bad.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The ick is such an interesting thing to get.

Speaker 2 What's your favorite song from Wicked? Oh, and we do have some Wicked News, which will be a good segue.

Speaker 1 Wicked Good News.

Speaker 1 My favorite song from Wicked is probably

Speaker 1 Defying Gravity.

Speaker 2 Basic. So basic.

Speaker 1 All right. I literally hate it by the way.
This is a huge pet peeve of mine. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 Here we go. Okay.

Speaker 1 Fans don't like the best song.

Speaker 2 I don't disagree.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, Taylor Swift's best song is one that nobody's ever heard of. No, actually.

Speaker 2 Well, it is. It's called Peace.

Speaker 1 Actually, it's not. Because otherwise, more people would have heard it and the streams would be higher.

Speaker 2 Why don't you talk into the microphone and you say that?

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 1 Like, why is it so far far away there okay move it closer okay if you're having like a throat issue do you maybe want to leave the room i'll do the ads like this is really inappropriate yeah i just have a small amount of post-nasal drip from the plane okay

Speaker 2 also sure blame the plane do you know we have the good guys has a new uh sponsor zyizol oh was that like huge for you do you understand like like that is so unbelievably cool yeah and you do the ad reads on good guys yeah do all of them you need me to do your reads no i don't i do a strong read i don't think the sponsors would appreciate like some rogue random cross-dresser coming in i do a strong read you do actually i have the honor like the great honor of you do your ad reads at home yeah on the bluetooth microphones and i have the great honor you like scream when you do the ads of course i get very into it this episode of the good guys

Speaker 2 i like know all your sponsors who

Speaker 2 um i don't want to say them because i'm loyal to my sponsors i'm not going to be like giving free shout outs

Speaker 2 to like rogue brands that don't sponsor my podcast

Speaker 2 definitely yeah cool so without further ado.

Speaker 1 Are you okay?

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Speaker 1 So hot in here.

Speaker 2 I'm actually not that hot.

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Is there anything more annoying? Oh, no.

Speaker 2 I completely fucking agree. We're full of pet peeves.
I completely agree.

Speaker 1 I'm hot. I'm not.
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Speaker 2 All right, Ben, are you ready for the Fast Five series?

Speaker 1 I absolutely am. I just must mention I love an ad.

Speaker 2 I hear an ad and I'm like, I want to buy a do you find really, do you like yourself really susceptible to marketing? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Ben, every day something shows up at the house.

Speaker 1 I get a new supplement. Anytime anything.

Speaker 2 Are you interested in everyday dose? I can tell.

Speaker 1 Anytime, anytime. And also wild grain.

Speaker 2 Oh, are you not familiar?

Speaker 1 I'm not familiar.

Speaker 2 So I didn't mean to put Olivia on the spot because a lot of times she makes her own stuff. But when we go to her house and she has like those dinner rolls, they're wild grain.

Speaker 1 By the way, that's amazing to be able to bake fresh baked bread.

Speaker 2 They have sourdough. Like they really have everything.
That's huge. Under 25 minutes, I'm hungry.

Speaker 1 And it's such a pain in the ass. Like, I didn't stop.
Let's talk about how you gave up. I went to my sourdough journey.

Speaker 2 You just gave up. And we haven't even talked about it personally.

Speaker 1 No, so here's what happened. We went to Los Angeles, and I just.

Speaker 2 You didn't bring your starter with you.

Speaker 1 No, I left it in the fridge to die. I don't know if it's dead because I look at it and it's still, it's still there.

Speaker 2 No, you can feed it.

Speaker 1 So then I think it's okay. So then it's fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but you just haven't made it in like a month.

Speaker 1 I haven't made it in a while, but also we were in LA for a while.

Speaker 2 We moved apartments.

Speaker 1 We moved apartments.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the sourdough journey is one that really can only be done when your life is settled okay when your life is oh do you feel unsettled i i feel like we've been uh moving around a lot we have florida la new apartment yeah moving around a lot so once we feel settled again i will return to baking my soul will return to the oven okay just like my ancestors

Speaker 2 too far yes my bad it's not funny okay okay first up we have sexiest man alive there's been a lot of hoopla about who the sexiest man alive is they're like

Speaker 2 it is even though let's talk about how last year they did sexiest podcaster and they gave it to Josh and IU.

Speaker 1 But like, we're, we're a duo.

Speaker 2 Just give it to both. It's so true.
It was like, it was intentional. Right.
It felt anti-Semitic, even though Josh is Jewish.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 2 Well, the sexiest man of the year is

Speaker 2 Jonathan Bailey. And I told Ben who that was.
He said, who is that?

Speaker 2 And now you know it's Fiero. I know Fiero.
Dancing through life.

Speaker 1 I like Fiero.

Speaker 2 Me too. He's extremely handsome.
He's also from Bridgerton. I think this is a great selection.
I often have a lot to say about who they choose. Like, I think they're ugly or random.
This is perfect.

Speaker 2 It also always has to be like chosen with someone in conjunction with them doing press. Yeah.
He's obviously getting ready for the Wicked Part 2, which comes out next week.

Speaker 2 Oh, we should see it while we're here.

Speaker 1 I would love to. Is he British?

Speaker 2 Like, does he have an accent? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has an accent.
Cool. The cover is hot.
Like, he's in water. It's a nice photo.

Speaker 1 He's a good-looking guy. Yeah.
You know? You like him? I think that, like, he's got, like, a little bit of receding going on over here. Ben.
I got to introduce him.

Speaker 2 You're one to talk.

Speaker 1 I got to introduce him to,

Speaker 1 what's his name? Dr. Diamond.

Speaker 2 Oh, did you talk? Do you have Ben had like fancy plastic surgery?

Speaker 1 I'm pretty in with the doctors.

Speaker 2 With Dr. Diamond on his podcast.

Speaker 1 Dr. Dubrow, Dr.
Diamond. The only doctor that we haven't been able to get.
Please, if anybody is listening from TLC, Dr. Nazardin.

Speaker 1 All I want

Speaker 2 is Dr.

Speaker 1 Nazardin so that I can talk about my 600-pound life, 2,000-pound sisters, and like mine, Josh's dreams,

Speaker 1 2,000 pound sisters on.

Speaker 2 That's what you should dress up for Halloween. 2,000 pound sisters.
You also need to get Dr.

Speaker 2 Steve Levine on your podcast because your episodes with Terry Dubrow are some of my favorite, mostly because Terry's like so pro-Azempic and he's always talking about plastic surgery. That's great.

Speaker 2 I love him. And he's just like funny reality star, but you do need to get Dr.
Steve Levine on your show. Do you know who that is? I don't know who that is.

Speaker 2 So he's like the doctor of the moment right now. I don't know if you saw, like, a couple of celebrities have come out with brand new faces, and they look insanely amazing.

Speaker 2 Chris Jenner.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Lindsey Lohan. Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mr. Levine.

Speaker 2 They all went to the same doctor and they've all been like really open about it. And it's Dr.
Steve Levine. Now I hear Dr.
Steve Levine has like a years long waitlist now.

Speaker 2 It's a quarter of a million dollars for a facelift. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So it would be amazing if you get him on the podcast. Maybe just because like then I could get like, you know, a facelift for free or something.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 any of the doctors that I've worked with would love to work with you, but you don't need any work.

Speaker 2 Thank you. That's the right answer.

Speaker 1 Most gorgeous woman I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 And also speaking of facelifts and sexiest men, I don't know if we haven't spoken about this on the toast, but Bradley Cooper has a new face.

Speaker 1 I've seen that and it's bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 We're always talking about like botched women. Like let's talk about debotched man.
Bradley Cooper looks nuts and he was at one point like the, I'm sure he's been people's sexiest man.

Speaker 2 He is arguably like the most good looking man in the last, you know, 20 years. He's like a Brad Pitt, George Clooney level.

Speaker 1 It's funny that I never saw that. He was terrible.
That that's what it was because I've looked at him and I'm like, huh, you don't look the same as Cooper.

Speaker 2 He had his face pulled back and it doesn't look good. He looks like an old woman.

Speaker 1 It looks horrible. It looks horrible.
Sorry, Mr. Coop.

Speaker 2 But I think this is a great choice for John. And I feel like every year, whoever they choose, it's like so divisive and everyone's always like clouding.
I feel like everybody likes this.

Speaker 2 I have no notes.

Speaker 1 No, who doesn't like wicked? Picking somebody from Wicked was a layup.

Speaker 2 And it's so true. And like, he was really popular before because he was in Bridgerton and he was like the sexy lead.
And like, there's, I'd burn for you. And, you know, it would not be fault enough.

Speaker 2 Like, he has a lot of like famous.

Speaker 1 I wish I saw that show. You didn't? No, you watched it without me.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, I'm sorry. Like, you are.

Speaker 1 You watch so many good ones without me. The only one that I'm- Why don't you try being home?

Speaker 2 You're always golfing or going to the nick game. Like, sorry, I have to do something once you get it.

Speaker 1 You're literally watching Bridgerton at noon on a Wednesday. Like, what do you want from me? It's my job.
Yeah. Also, I am watching a show that you're not watching and you're missing out.

Speaker 2 We also need to talk about Wayward

Speaker 2 The best show ever Ben and I just finished Wayward season one on Netflix. You probably haven't heard of it.

Speaker 2 It was not popular like I literally we stumbled upon it It stars Tony Collette queen and it's about it's like a cult show. It's amazing amazing show.

Speaker 2 That said I'm watching severance alone and let me tell you this show Severed my brain Ben started severance on the plane and he comes home and he's like have you heard of this like random like indie little show called severance?

Speaker 1 I did not say that. Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 And he keeps calling it his plane show, which is confusing people because people think it's like lost, lost like a show without a plane it is my plane show yeah exactly yeah i'll watch it on united and uh even though like i really shouldn't be flying united like but ben had a trigger oh

Speaker 1 sorry mic down sorry she messed with her mic ben had a triggering not a triggering but like a really weird experience on a united flight do you want to tell that story yeah we i landed uh from los angeles oh yeah we flew home separately we flew home separately um and all of a sudden it was a beautiful flight pargy i I watched my severance.

Speaker 1 I had a great time.

Speaker 1 Except the guy next to me was in a lay flat the entire time and I couldn't go to the bathroom. Oh, because he was lagged out the whole time.
Yeah. He was lagged out the whole time.

Speaker 1 But other than that, it was really a wonderful flight. And all of a sudden we land and the stewardess comes on and she says,

Speaker 1 hello, everybody. Welcome to New York.
You never would have known it, but two female pilots flew this plane. Isn't that amazing? What are you, nuts?

Speaker 2 Well, why do you think it's nuts?

Speaker 1 First of all, it completely pushes back the movement to have to tell me that two women successfully flying a plane.

Speaker 2 Autopilot, by the way, is a big deal.

Speaker 1 It's not a big deal. I agree.

Speaker 2 Making it a big deal is sexist.

Speaker 1 It is, 100%. She thought that she was like advancing.

Speaker 2 She thought it was a sly.

Speaker 1 She thought she was doing something there. Yeah.
She wasn't. And the second is, like, if I had any issues with the flight, then I would have blamed the women.

Speaker 2 It's so charming.

Speaker 1 I didn't think it was a great flight, but I'm also smart enough to know that a flight from Los Angeles to New York is literally

Speaker 1 autopilot.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry, what was that?

Speaker 1 Autopilot. And then undo autopilot and land.

Speaker 1 Land. I love that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, Ben, obviously, this was a huge loss for you not being People's Sexiest Man Alive, but there is always Next Here. Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, how do I submit?

Speaker 2 Like, can somebody submit me? You got to just put some nude photos out on the internet. I think maybe.
Do they need nudes? I think we need.

Speaker 2 What? Sex tape? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know you are.

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 1 Want to do it now? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We just fit.
We're in a studio. Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right. Calm down, Ben.
Yeah. Keep your shirt on.
Um, we are going to do Denzy with the Stars, but in case anybody like doesn't watch, or it's, I don't want to spoil it. It'll be the fifth story.

Speaker 2 So just want to say that.

Speaker 1 By the way, if you don't watch, like, you're really missing out on some clean family fun.

Speaker 2 It's so true. It's family fun.
I mean, literally, every, I think like they have like 10 million viewers a week.

Speaker 1 You're missing out on clean family fun. Clean family, clean family fun.

Speaker 1 And Carlton from Fresh Prince is the host.

Speaker 1 And it's clean family fun.

Speaker 2 So speaking of

Speaker 2 family, David Beckham has been knighted by King Charles. And Victoria Beckham has also gotten a posh new name.

Speaker 2 So Sir David Beckham, he was knighted by King Charles III during an investiture ceremony at Windsor Castle on Tuesday. His wife Victoria, who was also in attendance at the ceremony, got a new title.

Speaker 2 She's Lady Beckham. So he is Sir David Beckham.
They both posted on Instagram. He said, I've obviously been very lucky in my career to have won what I've won and done what I've done.

Speaker 2 but to receive an honor like this of a knight is beyond anything I've ever thought that I would receive.

Speaker 2 To be honest, a young boy from the East End of London, born in Leightonstone and here at Windsor Castle, being honored by His Majesty the King, the most important and most respected institution in the world.

Speaker 2 It's quite a moment. And the Victoria made the suit that he wore to accept the honor because, you know, she's a clothing designer.

Speaker 1 Are you done?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's more.
His parents were in attendance. It's really cute.

Speaker 2 I could not love these two more. And a fun fact about David Beckham is he's obsessed with the royal family.

Speaker 2 Like when Queen Elizabeth most recently died, you know, part of the ceremony in the UK is they put her coffin like in a big Pilace and people come from all over the world. They wait in line.

Speaker 2 He literally, and you know, he could have cut the line. He waited in line for seven hours just to literally stand by her coffin and pay his respects and like bow and leave.

Speaker 2 There were pictures of him people being like, is that David Beckham?

Speaker 2 So this must be the biggest fucking deal.

Speaker 1 So then it's really nice that he got it. Cause what I was going to say, first of all, David Beckham, big fan and also big time Jew.

Speaker 2 Jewish king. Yes.
Yes. So proud.
He's so proud.

Speaker 1 And we love like accomplished, great, non-controversial, proud Jews.

Speaker 2 We also don't have like a lot of athletes. So to have like a big time athlete, that's huge for us.

Speaker 1 Huge for us.

Speaker 2 We have lots of like writers and comedians.

Speaker 1 So many writers.

Speaker 2 But not a lot of athletes. Not a lot of athletes.
That's huge.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I was going to say that I just feel like sometimes they just like knight. Like, I don't know why they're knighting random people.
Like, sometimes they.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's actually funny. I don't agree.
I feel like they, it's not something, yeah, sometimes like you can get it. And then it's like everyone's,

Speaker 1 I just don't know why. Like, and I love Elton John.

Speaker 2 Oh, I know why. Why? Because like, he's, he makes Britain look good.
He's like made his people proud. Like people who go out and accomplish great things in their field, like music, like sports.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you, you deserve it. Dame Judy Dench, like people, Dame Maggie Smith.
Sure.

Speaker 2 I feel like the people that I know in Hollywood, like who have gotten it, are great representation of the British people. Got it.

Speaker 1 I didn't even know that Elton John was British. I don't know where the fuck I thought he was from, but now that makes sense.

Speaker 2 Okay. Like, seriously, you really are not okay.
You're not okay.

Speaker 1 You're not okay. But now that makes sense.
Okay, so they're proud members. They're proud of the people, and so they knight them.
That makes sense. Yeah.
And David Beckham makes sense.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's from the UK. I just wanted to make sure.
I'm like, wait.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's more than one.

Speaker 1 Wow, you really like, you didn't even know.

Speaker 2 No, I did. I saw the movie, but I was like, like, wait, just like 100%.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Did you see the movie, Rocket Man? I think so.
I think I saw it with you.

Speaker 2 I remember I think I saw it with Olivia.

Speaker 1 Were you with me? No, I don't think I saw it with you.

Speaker 2 Did you see it, though? You would love it.

Speaker 1 I feel like you saw it with you. The Rocket Man.

Speaker 2 Nobody loves Elson John more than your dad.

Speaker 1 Rocket Man.

Speaker 1 And I think it's going to be a long, long time to touch down Ben.

Speaker 2 What's your favorite Elton John song? There are so many good ones. Benny and the Jets.

Speaker 1 Benny and the Jets.

Speaker 2 I used to call Ben

Speaker 2 what's another one there's so many Rocket Man I'm still standing

Speaker 1 oh I knew that because last night we were literally watching dancing with the stars rock and roll halls sing yeah this is from sing too I don't know that as Elton John I know that as Sing um yeah he has a million songs you should watch a movie like he does he does have a million songs it's funny that I haven't seen that but I saw Dylan

Speaker 2 yeah me and Ben saw what was the movie called the Bob Dylan the Bob Dylan show.

Speaker 1 It was called like...

Speaker 2 Dylan. No, it had a weird one, like Beautiful Things.

Speaker 1 A Beautiful Mind.

Speaker 2 That's like a Holocaust movie.

Speaker 1 Let me just double-check. Dylan's...

Speaker 1 Bob Dylan. What was it called? Bob Dylan.
Oh, it was one of his songs.

Speaker 2 Oh, I remember it. Do you want to know? Yeah.
A Complete Unknown.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Terrible name. That said, Timothy Chalamay.

Speaker 2 What a guy. Can we just go back to David Beckham really quickly? I'm really happy for him.
Like, I'm obsessed with these two. I feel like, obviously, they've been famous

Speaker 2 for them for their whole lives like and globally like super famous but i do feel like they've entered into an era recently after his documentary like really leveled them up there's so a list i feel like i put them now on the same level as like people are gonna think i'm crazy but like megan markle and prince harry in terms of fame these um the obamas like they're so up there did you see the videos you guys already talked about we talked about it yesterday who was my host yesterday strecker oh strek no no it was two days ago it was zandra i feel like she wasn't really like super into royals megan markle celebrating the world series was the single worst video I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 1 I actually wanted to jump off a bridge. Like I watched it and I'm like, oh, Harry like needs a divorce today.

Speaker 2 Okay, so you know what? I'm actually going to switch our next story because it was Chris Martin and Sophie Turner dating, but we had like already spoken about it.

Speaker 2 So there's this new story in page six. Now, I can tell if page six just hates Megan Markle.

Speaker 2 So you have to take everything they say with like a grain of salt, but it says like a source says that Hollywood has really soured on Prince Harry and Megan Markle.

Speaker 2 Like they've lost a lot of their good. good faith.

Speaker 2 So Hollywood source tells page six that when it comes to Meghan, Megan and Harry, quote, there's not only no appetite left for them in LA, but they've also worn through any goodwill that they had.

Speaker 2 Another source tells them that people are sick of them. Their act has gotten stale.
Netflix recently downgraded their deal with the high-profile pair.

Speaker 2 The couple had originally signed a $100 million multi-year deal, which was just renewed as a first-look deal.

Speaker 2 The source obviously fucking hates Megan and Harry, saying they're just hopeless in professional settings.

Speaker 2 She also recently lost her publicist and it's like the third publicist in a row.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of rumors about them and I do feel like they're overblown, but I do think there's something really sinister like behind the scenes there.

Speaker 1 I don't really like that they're grouped.

Speaker 2 Oh, because who do you think is worse?

Speaker 1 100% Megan.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm 100% Harry's worse.

Speaker 1 I just don't think that Harry wants what is currently happening.

Speaker 2 Oh, I disagree.

Speaker 1 You think that he wants fame?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. But you have to keep in mind, let me tell you, you have to keep in mind that like he has lived his whole life in the shadow of his brother.
He's been called, his memoir was called Spare.

Speaker 2 You have an heir and a spare. He's been like this sort of throwaway brother.
He's been like dying for attention his whole life. He went to Vegas and dressed up as a Nazi.

Speaker 2 Like he just wanted eyes on him. And now that he's out from the shadow of his brother and came to America as this hero, being like the bad royal family, I think he has like, this is the life.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she wanted to be an actress. What are they doing?

Speaker 2 Well, that's a great question. They've signed all these deals and they don't fulfill these deals.
So they had a Netflix deal. They had a Spotify deal.
He's like.

Speaker 2 in this company with Oprah is like a mental health specialist. Like they sign on to all these projects and they do not fulfill them.
He also got a three book deal with like a big book publisher.

Speaker 2 The first one came out. It was actually super popular because it was like this crazy tell-all about the royal family.
And of course, people love to know about the royal family.

Speaker 2 Beyond that, I don't know what more he has to say, but he does have more books in the pipeline. I think he like really wants to be famous.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think she does too, but like in a more, who doesn't want to be famous, you know, like in a more swirly type of way.

Speaker 1 I guess. I don't know.
I don't know if I'm right, though.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I'm right.

Speaker 1 I can only.

Speaker 1 I can only judge based on what I've seen. And what I've seen, first of all, Megan Markle in Suits was fantastic.

Speaker 2 We love loved suits and I also feel like I'm biased because I recently watched suits and I it really changed to how I see her I thought she was like super beautiful talented amazing she was but this show with her cooking show oh well yeah let's talk about that is really um you loved her jam Her jam was delicious.

Speaker 2 Like you said, it was the best thing you ever ate.

Speaker 1 And it was like somehow not so insanely caloric. There wasn't so much sugar in it.
It was like a clean apricot jam that was delicious that her PR company sent. So kudos to her.

Speaker 2 PR company sent to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 You acting like you got PR. Calm down.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 You're right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so yeah, she can make or works with a team that makes a good product for sure.

Speaker 1 The show was just so disingenuous.

Speaker 2 That's the running theme with all of their projects.

Speaker 1 The show was so, like, I don't believe you. I'm sorry.
I don't believe you that you are making a homemade potpourry.

Speaker 1 Or that you are tie-dyeing t-shirts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was scarves.

Speaker 1 What are you even doing?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, it's so, it's so simple. Like, just you're, you're royal or royal adjacent or royal, right?

Speaker 1 Do cool shit. Like, be like the.

Speaker 2 No, and they got these huge deals with Spotify, with Netflix. Um, and it would have been great if what they put out was Pargy, right? Like a Megan Markle cookie show, like, you're royal.

Speaker 2 You live in this huge farm in Montesideto.

Speaker 1 It was Pargy. Like, it was filmed.

Speaker 2 Well done.

Speaker 1 It was well done. It's just like, I didn't believe her.
I didn't believe anything that she was doing.

Speaker 2 So she's had like a couple of podcast deals. And so I understand what this article is saying.
Like, this is what the source says. They're just hopeless in professional settings.

Speaker 2 We're told Harry even showed up late to a Netflix meeting, then asked an executive to get him a cup of hot chocolate,

Speaker 2 which is apparently his go-to beverage of choice.

Speaker 2 This story echoes a similar claim made by a Spotify employee who told Vanity Fair that Harry asked for the same drink, but there was none in the office. So employees scrambled to obtain some.

Speaker 2 All right. Well,

Speaker 1 and by the way, that has, one, it's not a big deal. Okay.

Speaker 2 Like, hot hot chocolate is delicious.

Speaker 1 Two, that's on Spotify employees for not saying they don't have hot chocolate.

Speaker 2 And not only that, like, if you have a prince coming, like, find out what he likes to drink and have it. 100%.
The report also claimed, this is really interesting, that an idea was pitched to Harry.

Speaker 2 What if he reviewed a hot chocolate every week while chatting with a different friend, which Harry and his team considered, but then rejected? By the way, great idea.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, I think that's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 Coffees and cars.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 1 but his could be hot chocolate.

Speaker 1 We could bring back, what's our favorite low-calorie hot chocolate that nobody's Swissmiss? It could be sponsored by Swissmiss.

Speaker 1 Welcome, Swissmiss.

Speaker 2 The pair had reportedly signed a three-year, $20 million deal with Spotify. It ended in 2023 after one season of her show, Archetypes.

Speaker 2 And then she had a podcast called Confessions of a Female Founder with Lemonada, which ran from April to June of 2025. Yeah, her podcast career was not good.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think it's her. I really.

Speaker 2 She's a hardworking girl, though. Like, she, she, like, you know, got herself on a TV show.
I don't think that she's not hardworking.

Speaker 1 I never said that. I just think that like the stuff that she puts out, it's just like, it's just weird.
I just don't like any of it.

Speaker 2 You know, this report says like she controls everything. She thinks she's smarter than everyone.
She's dismissive.

Speaker 2 And yes, there was like a lot of news recently about her.

Speaker 2 I'm having a stroke. Yeah, she lost another publicist.
People from her, people who work from her, like run from her. I don't know.
I don't know. I just feel like it's a lie.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm just like not buying it. It's a lie.
I hate him. Like that's, I, one of my fatal flaws is, like, I am intent on seeing the worst in Prince Harry.
Like, I just think he's fucking evil. I do.

Speaker 1 I'm sure that he's just like a very normal.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I think he's like a normal person.
I don't think so.

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All right, Benny, you ready for the fourth story that was tailored?

Speaker 1 Ready?

Speaker 2 Like just chosen just for you. Yes.
Oreo has unveiled their Thanksgiving dinner cookies. So here are the flavors.
Ready?

Speaker 2 Turkey and stuffing.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 2 And creamed corn.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait. Are you sure this isn't like an April Fool's?

Speaker 2 I'm positive. Oreo Thanksgiving dinner inspired cookies are available in dessert inspired flavors like apple caramel, not to be confused with the previously released.

Speaker 1 Apple caramel is obviously delicious.

Speaker 2 And pumpkin pie, pie, which is not the pumpkin spice, it's a pumpkin pie.

Speaker 2 But the snakes, snack,

Speaker 2 the snack brand revealed their brand new Thanksgiving dinner-inspired cookies yesterday. The cookie sandwiches are each coated in fudge, but here's where the Thanksgiving flavors come in.

Speaker 2 The fudge is infused with the flavors of six different turkey day dishes. So this is a little bit confusing.
But they're selling it in a limited edition Oreo, like tin. It's like a big tin Oreo.

Speaker 2 And then there are two of each flavor in the package. It's $20.
It's a pretty good, it's like a holiday thing that you can send to someone. Oh, nice.
Yeah, the flavors sound like really unique.

Speaker 2 Cream corn is dunked in a bright yellow fudge with a light yellow drizzle while the turkey and stuffing cookie is brown.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Like I feel conflicted because I say like Oreo, you're a perfect cookie.
Leave it be. Just make Oreo.
But then, you know, they release golden Oreo.

Speaker 2 And I think golden Oreo is better than regular Oreo.

Speaker 1 And then they release the thinnies and you're like, holy

Speaker 1 delicious, these thinnies. They're just called the thins.

Speaker 2 And the thinnies are the turkey slices that you like.

Speaker 1 If you turn the knob, it tightens it. You see that? Doing, doing, doing, waiting.

Speaker 1 It was the perfect cookie. The thin is my favorite these days.
Look, here's...

Speaker 2 The thin is like a cracker. I could eat a whole slate, especially at breastfeeding.
I could eat a whole pack of Oreo thins, golden or regular, in about 30 minutes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here's what I think about these cookies. First and foremost, this is wonderful marketing by Oreo.
You're talking about Oreo. They don't care about the Thanksgiving thing.

Speaker 1 We're just lifting the whole brand, right? Wonderful marketing.

Speaker 1 Corn is wonderful in sweet and savory settings. I can easily see a creamed corn.
Think of a cornbread. Corn muffin.

Speaker 2 You know, corn is extremely versatile. Corn is extremely versatile.

Speaker 1 Turkey is not.

Speaker 1 I will not, I have no interest in a turkey and stuffing chocolate-covered Oreo. It sounds

Speaker 1 revolting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I don't need it. I think we need to order it and do a Patreon taste test.

Speaker 1 We should have them send it to us.

Speaker 2 Oh, I could order it. It's $20.
Yeah, you can send it to me.

Speaker 1 Who's in the purse trick? Yeah, just send it to me.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, because Ben's like a very influential person.

Speaker 1 So it's my P.O. box.

Speaker 2 Okay, P.O. box.
You don't even have a P.O.

Speaker 1 box. Send to my P.O.

Speaker 2 I just want to say these look disgusting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do.

Speaker 2 And I have a very hot take.

Speaker 1 Please.

Speaker 2 It's like a regular Oreos are very commonly sold now at like, you know, different fancy food stores dipped in chocolate. And it's like this big, like,

Speaker 2 I don't like it. Like, it's not that it's bad.

Speaker 2 Oh, you don't like the chocolate covered Oreo it's fine but it's become so popular it's too much yeah look people started dipping people started frying people started taking okay

Speaker 2 fried oreos are fucking amazing I'm not disagreeing that they are amazing I'm just saying they're a lot yeah but I'm like an Oreos stan like my favorite types of ice cream is cookies and cream I love chopped up Oreos

Speaker 2 I love Oreos so I'm not I'm saying this with love in my heart I actually don't know now that I'm thinking about it I don't know if anybody loves Oreos more than you golden Oreos are like my fucking favorite it's not even that that like when you get any kind of ice cream you want chocolate crunches which are just broken up oreos and a lot of people don't realize that oreo actually has sunflower lecithin in it which is great for breastfeeding mamas it helps with supply and did you know they're parv they're parv yes which means non-dairy to their kosher too they're really just nothing yeah no they're amazing they're really just 100 chemicals like what the hell is in an oreo if it's parv

Speaker 2 okay voice crack parv

Speaker 2 you know it's it's a good question like the fact that they're parv is great but that means that they're non-dairy So what's the cream?

Speaker 1 What's in it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a little... I don't want to know.
Sunflower lecithin.

Speaker 1 Send it to me. I don't want to know.

Speaker 2 Today's fifth and final story is A Little Dancing with the Stars. Recap.
Spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 Danielle Fischl went home to Panga, Ben's girlfriend, and Paychix is reporting that her Boy Meets World co-stars think the judges have a personal vendetta against her.

Speaker 2 So Danielle Fischel's Boy Meets World co-stars think Dancing with the Stars judges have a personal vendetta against her.

Speaker 2 Ryder-Strong admitted on Saturday's episode of the Pod Meets World podcast in regards to watching the judges score her performances. I held back anger.
I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 2 At this point, it's starting to feel like a personal vendetta. Are you guys open to the potential that Danielle might be working her ass off?

Speaker 1 So I actually had nothing to do with working her ass off. Her dance was bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so I just feel like

Speaker 2 that podcast was before she went home. And I think he's probably even more enraged now that she did go home.

Speaker 2 And I feel like I'm actually extremely unbiased when it comes to Dancing with the Stars with the exception of Andy. Like, I don't have any horse in this race.

Speaker 2 And I just feel like it's like Danielle's time. Like, that's it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I have a couple of things to say here.
First of all, Topanga was just like

Speaker 1 the heartthrob of the generation. You love her.

Speaker 1 I loved her, certainly.

Speaker 2 You don't love her anymore?

Speaker 1 No. She seems wonderful.

Speaker 1 That's it. She looks like our pediatrician.

Speaker 2 I said that on the toe. She looks like Dr.

Speaker 1 Frash. And

Speaker 1 it was her time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 Her dance was bad.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 1 This is a, very clearly, a two-horse race.

Speaker 2 Who would you think the horses are?

Speaker 1 The horse is is Alex and the horse is Whitney. Oh, wow.
I agree. I know that you probably like Crocodile Dundee.

Speaker 2 Well, people love Robert Irwin.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He seems wonderful, by the way.

Speaker 2 He's a very good dancer.

Speaker 1 And he just like, he's, he's a star.

Speaker 2 I like would agree, except that Jordan Childs is like really stepping her pussy up. So like, I think you're, you're scooting past her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just, I don't know. I, I, I think that Whitney and Alex are just amazing dancers.

Speaker 2 No, Alex has really, in the last like two weeks. She's crushed it.
Oh, my God. Last night's dance was amazing.
It's clear how hard she works. What is up with Flavor Flav?

Speaker 2 Like I actually, I like that they brought in a judge who wasn't so serious. Like people take this show so fucking seriously.
Like it's actually annoying.

Speaker 2 Like whenever we give critiques, people are like, well, you're not understand the jive. Okay, yeah, I don't understand the jive.
I just, I understand that I watched something that I thought was good.

Speaker 2 Like

Speaker 2 yeah. So it's nice that he brought like a sense of levity, but like him giving like Andy a nine or an eight and then Alex a nine.
Like I hate that his

Speaker 2 voting and judging like really made no sense.

Speaker 2 Having said that, like he brought levity and it was fun and fresh and whatever, but like Alex was very close to being the first person to get a completely perfect score, a 40 out of 40, and she got a 39.

Speaker 2 He had said in an interview afterwards, he meant to give her a 10 and then they wouldn't let him change it.

Speaker 2 So yeah, but that's like annoying for Alex. But I do believe she's, when we first started, it was like very clear that Whitney was going to win.
And I feel like

Speaker 2 Alex sort of was like, hold my beer. I think Alex really could and kind of should win.

Speaker 1 She works so hard.

Speaker 2 That's the thing. Like Whitney does have professional dance background.
So I don't know if necessarily Whitney's getting that much better. Like she was already at the top.
Yeah. She's kids, right?

Speaker 2 No, it's insane.

Speaker 1 No, like, like Alex has made this. It's very, very clear.
Her full-time job, 100%

Speaker 1 personality, committed with Val in that room. He gave her a very inappropriate smooch.
On the forehead. Yes.
That was weird. Gave her a very inappropriate smooch.

Speaker 1 And it seems that the two are thickest thieves and they are in it to win it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like she's really like new to the dance world.

Speaker 2 I know she like danced a little bit, but in terms of like ballroom technique and stuff, and I feel like she's the perfect, like they should have her win because she's really what the show embodies.

Speaker 2 Whitney, who like is like a professional dancer winning is like, no, you're supposed to be a star before you're a dancer.

Speaker 1 And she's like, great guest judge.

Speaker 1 That would be really fun. I agree.

Speaker 1 I would be like very Bruno. I give him a nine.

Speaker 2 And I want to talk about Andy.

Speaker 1 That's a very Hitler of me. I didn't mean to do that.

Speaker 2 That was very Hitler-coded. I want to talk about Andy really quickly, okay?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but can I, before you you go into it, let me just say, Andy should not be on the show anymore. Andy is a really nice guy.
I see a lot of myself in him.

Speaker 1 When I saw his outfit last night, I was like, oh, that looks like me five drinks deep

Speaker 1 at a wedding where I've untucked my shirt and taken off my bow tie and I'm just like dancing and sweaty. But you've platformed him a little bit too hard.

Speaker 1 And I think that people are voting for him because you told them to. Oh, wow.
And at the end of the day, the only argument for Danielle Fischel is that she should not have gone home before Andy.

Speaker 2 So I have been like an Andy defender because every week, while he's certainly not the best dancer, I feel as though he's brought something to the dance, whether it was endearing, like I thought it was sweet, or whether it was funny, like he made me laugh.

Speaker 2 And last night was the first time he danced where I was like, okay, you've actually given me nothing. And all I see is your mistakes.
And all I see is your inability to keep up.

Speaker 2 So I thought that last night was an appropriate time for him to go home. Up until that point, I thought there were people who just did less.

Speaker 2 And I know people didn't agree with me, but he was bringing something. This is a TV show.
He was entertaining me.

Speaker 2 And last night I was like, okay, he can definitely go home danielle fischel going home before him this is what jackie and i keep saying like it doesn't matter like andy's not gonna win and danielle's not gonna win it was one of them going home first so the fact that it was in now now

Speaker 2 andy will go home there's no now if he doesn't go home i will think that it's weird the way people every week is like well it's weird that andy hasn't gotten home i haven't agreed now starting no one

Speaker 2 needs to go home besides him agreed

Speaker 2 and i appreciate you blaming me it's your fault that's really sweet of you

Speaker 2 It's not.

Speaker 2 But it's time.

Speaker 1 It's time. It's time for Andy to go home.
Yeah. To his kids.
And to his wife. Yeah.
Because him and what's her name are getting a little bit too close. Emma?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't think so.
I think it's much more of like a paternal daughter, daughterly.

Speaker 1 Nothing's paternal to him.

Speaker 2 She's dating Alan. Okay.
Do you know who that is? I do.

Speaker 1 All I know is I don't know what Andy's thinking. Just saying.

Speaker 2 What are you talking about? Just saying. Okay.

Speaker 2 That's Jitsi with the Stars recap.

Speaker 2 Now we're getting to the point where we're like thinning the herd. I think once we get to like five or six people, Jordan, Whitney, because it's top four.

Speaker 2 Right now, my top four are Alex, Jordan, Whitney, Robert Irwin. I also, sorry.
I'm not a fan of Dylan Efron. I don't think, I think he'll go home soon too.

Speaker 1 Agreed. And Andy should have gone home before Jen.

Speaker 1 Jen. was a good dancer.
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 She worked hard. I agree.

Speaker 1 And if we're doing this on hard work and improvement, she was postpartum. Yep.

Speaker 2 And she deserved to go further. I completely agree.
Although Jackie's take on it, and I don't disagree with it, is like, I do think it was kind of a kind thing to let her go.

Speaker 2 I think this was a really difficult experience for her. Being away from her kids, breastfeeding full-time.
So true. Being so freshly postpartum.
I think it's hard on her body physically.

Speaker 2 And you're right.

Speaker 1 She wasn't going to win. So it was just a bad thing.
Let her go. Let her go.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I think it was the kind thing to do.

Speaker 1 Who was the worst contestant on Dancing with the Stars this year?

Speaker 2 Who was it? Who was?

Speaker 2 Define worst. Like, in a a technical sense, it's Andy.

Speaker 1 Who annoyed you the most? No, like Laurie Goreggie. Got it.

Speaker 2 Baron Davis wasn't great. Like I forgot.
We've literally, the show's been on for three months already.

Speaker 1 Baron Davis was bad.

Speaker 1 I was not a Hilaria fan. Oh.
I'm just not a Ilaria.

Speaker 2 I'm not a Ilaria fan either because like

Speaker 2 she's so crazy. But in terms of dance, she was very good.

Speaker 1 She was a fine dancer.

Speaker 2 And she went home because people just don't like her.

Speaker 1 She was a fine dancer.

Speaker 2 And that's the thing. That's what I'm worried about.
People really don't like Whitney. Like when I go to Twitter and like see, they're like, I can't believe Whitney didn't go home last night.

Speaker 2 I'm like, what are you talking talking about? She's the best dancer on TV.

Speaker 2 And so, I do think that the fan votes actually have like a lot of sway, and people really don't like Whitney. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 If the fan votes have a lot of sway, Alex are winning one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 2 Agreed. 100%.
And I would be, I would be very happy. I think she deserves to win.
She's my winner right now. Like, that's who I voted for last night.

Speaker 2 I only voted for one person and I voted for her 10 times.

Speaker 1 Yeah. She has been amazing.
Agreed.

Speaker 2 It's been like really cool to see someone from TikTok. Crush it.
Yeah. Like, those are our peeps.
Content creator. CC.
Podcaster.

Speaker 1 CC.

Speaker 2 Guys, give it up for Ben. He'll probably be

Speaker 2 back because I'm in Florida and like it's literally going to be him. I'm going to do it tomorrow.
Him and Olivia and rotation. No, I have someone tomorrow joining me.

Speaker 1 So maybe Friday.

Speaker 2 No, I have someone Friday, but next week. So I'll be back.
You'll be back next week.

Speaker 1 Okay, cool.

Speaker 2 And guys, send me recommendations for people in Florida. Or if you live in Florida and like our podcaster and like I know you and I just can't think of you, please reach out.

Speaker 2 I do have a couple of days open next week.

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