Burying Hatchets With Taylor Strecker: Tuesday, November 4th, 2025

Speaker 0 Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

Speaker 1 It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

Speaker 2 We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

Speaker 2 I sound amazing.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. It is Tuesday and I'm sitting down with a girl that I would choose in this lifetime and every lifetime after.

Speaker 2 It's my girl, Taylor Strecker, who is my go-to maternity leave co-host, but she has left me for the West Coast. So we are working extra hard today to get this video up.
Taylor's in LA.

Speaker 2 I'm in New York. Hey, Taylor, how you dern?

Speaker 1 Hey, girl. Hey.
Oh my God, Claudette, I miss you so much. First of all, it's these cinnabons that we did not get to see each other when you were in LA.

Speaker 2 So I did want to use my platform to highlight uh something that happened between taylor strucker and i that i already have like have loved you so much and you will like be my best friend till i die okay but what happened in la like only cemented that further okay thank you for saying that listen i i is who i is and i truly like when i tell you i don't care i don't care not because i don't love you i don't want to see you but just because like i get you to my core we are the same i ate you and you at i

Speaker 2 so we me and taylor had plans to hang out in la

Speaker 2 and I just like really miscalculated the day. I didn't realize LA traffic, like where we were going.
It was an hour in the car. Ruby's screaming.
I'm sweating, pumping in the back.

Speaker 2 Like, and I said to Ben, and I was getting the worst headache. Oh, and I was leaving the next day.
So I had to pack. Right.

Speaker 2 And I said to Ben, I'm like, I just really feel like before we get in any deeper, we had been driving for like 10 minutes. I'm like, I feel like we should just call it.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you, the Taylors won't care. The Taylors won't care.
And the way I called you and you were like, oh, thank God, I didn't want to go either. And like, you were also stuck in insane traffic.

Speaker 1 Insane traffic. It's going to be like an hour, 45 minutes.
Like this place is bananas.

Speaker 2 Bananas. The way

Speaker 2 it's so important. Like, and I mean this, how this is going to sound like a joke, but it's not.
It is so important to have friends in your life that you can cancel on.

Speaker 1 It's, if you can't cancel on your friends, who can you cancel on?

Speaker 2 A thousand percent. So we didn't get to hang out in LA.
You've kind of picked up and moved to the West Coast, like in a really annoying way when I've needed you most. I know.
Your wife is pregnant.

Speaker 2 You haven't been on the toast with me in like a year. We have so much to catch up on.
Hey, girl, hurry. Taylor Strigger, how are you?

Speaker 1 I am so good. Listen, I miss New York at my core.
Like she's a New Yorker, but I feel like, how about this?

Speaker 1 I'll say, I'm not a West Coaster, but I am enjoying my time the most I ever have when I'm visiting L.A. said like a true New Yorker.

Speaker 2 I don't want to make you jealous, but you are missing like the best time in New York. Central Park is like yellow and orange and green.
It's insanely beautiful. Like the weather is so crisp.

Speaker 2 Everybody's just wearing like their wool coats. Not to make you jealous.
I'm glad you're having a good time. I have a sneaky feeling I know what you're up to in LA.
So it's like time well spent.

Speaker 2 And I know you're limited on what you can say. She is.
But I just have a sneaky feeling. I know what you're doing and it's good.

Speaker 1 Thank you for saying that. It really is.

Speaker 1 I am fine. I'm living my dreams.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's been in this business for 20 years. Like.

Speaker 1 It's about fucking time. So yeah.

Speaker 2 No, you're crushing it. Like, and it's been fun to watch.
And I cannot believe that you moved your wife across the country when she's what now? Like seven months pregnant?

Speaker 1 No, six. Listen, we are fulfilling her dreams of having a baby.
Uh-huh. And bitch has dreams too.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I just have to take a backseat.

Speaker 1 Now, listen, I didn't plan for our dreams to slam into each other at the same time. The timing could not be worse, but like.
When it happens, it happens.

Speaker 1 And you just have to be ready, willing, and able.

Speaker 2 Men plans, God laughs. Jackie and I always say, like, everything in our life happens at once.
Like, weeks go by. No, what is that phrase?

Speaker 2 It's like days happen in a year and years happen in a day or whatever. Yep.

Speaker 2 Something like that.

Speaker 2 How is Taylor Donahue doing?

Speaker 1 She's so good. Honestly, she is the chillest pregnant person ever.
I could never, I am, I act more like a hormonal pregnant woman than she does pregnantly. Facts.
Like,

Speaker 1 so I really appreciate that she's still let me be the Diva Bitch baby throughout the pregnancy. It's like she is, she hasn't complained.
She's farting a lot.

Speaker 2 And do they smell different?

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't know if they smell different, but I don't mind them. Now, I want to be clear.

Speaker 1 They're not like my farts because my farts are the most amazing things you've ever smelled in your entire life.

Speaker 2 Of course, perfume.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Like, bottle it and let me just fucking inhale it like I have a huffing problem.

Speaker 2 You know? Check her number five.

Speaker 1 You know it.

Speaker 1 But hers are becoming less potent and more

Speaker 1 similar to mine. Like, like they hit like mind you, but it's not as enjoyable, but like it's not repugnant.

Speaker 2 Do you want to hear something crazy that you're going to experience?

Speaker 2 Like when the baby is born and you're like changing diapers and the baby's farting and you want the baby to fart, it means they're like clearing out gas and it like provides them a lot of relief.

Speaker 2 You will notice that the baby's farts like smell like Taylor's. Sadhguru.
Especially if she's breastfeeding. Is that on Taylor's journey?

Speaker 1 I haven't spoken to her about that. Oh my God.
We just went to a breastfeeding class the other day. Yeah, it's on her, it's on her journey for sure.

Speaker 2 Wait, what kind of class? And why don't you just call me if you have questions? I could teach that class.

Speaker 1 It's just like, it was just like a lactation thing. Like we're like, we're trying to like do, do the tings.
We're trying to jump off the to-do list. It's like lactation.

Speaker 1 We also are trying to like figure out like, do we have to go to a La Maz class?

Speaker 2 Do we? So Lamaz is like a thing of the past.

Speaker 2 Although Although a lot of the techniques, like the breathing techniques, are still implemented. Some people, it's like kind of a choice.
You'd have to ask Taylor.

Speaker 2 Some people do all the classes, right? Like you can do La Maz, you can do labor prep, you can do newborn prep.

Speaker 2 Cause some people feel like they're best when they are most prepared. I personally opted not to do any of those things because I just felt like it would scare me.
Yes. Yes.
Like I don't want to know.

Speaker 2 Like I'm all set.

Speaker 1 And like you still did it with flying colors, right?

Speaker 2 Not really, but I did it.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 1 I just kind of feel like we're do-it-kind of girlies, too. Like, Tay's, like, she's very low-maintenance.
She's very easy-breezy, beautiful cover girl.

Speaker 1 I just feel like maybe we just like go in and see how it goes.

Speaker 2 That's my preferred method. I have no regrets about going in without, you know, a spreadsheet and a binder full of information.
I actually think it was better.

Speaker 2 But I am curious, you know, I feel like everybody's like, How's Teddy? How's Teddy? How's Teddy? But you know what?

Speaker 1 How's Taylor? Thank you so much for asking. No one ever asks about me anymore.
It's already happening. This baby is taking my role in my relationships.

Speaker 1 You should see the two of them, Claudia, hanging out without me. And literally every single time.
First of all, they did a couples costume this year. I was not included.
Yep.

Speaker 1 The bump was the main character of that costume. And then I'm over here being Blake Lively.
Everybody thought I was fucking Britney Mahomes.

Speaker 2 Okay, I have two things I want to say to you. The first is that when you go on your tirades against Taylor and the baby, I'm never going to to be on your side.

Speaker 2 I just want you to know because usually it's like you and I versus Teddy and Ben. Yeah.
But in this scenario, I am Teddy and like I ride for Teddy. Whatever Teddy wants, Teddy gets.

Speaker 2 Like you just better act right, bitch, okay?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 I'm so glad you brought up your costume. I need to talk to you about your Halloween costume, please.
I fucking loved it.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 2 I understood it. immediately.
Like anybody who didn't, oh, please, slobs.

Speaker 2 Like, guys, she dressed up as Blake Lively at the Super Bowl when she wore like that really curly blonde hair, the red tracksuit.

Speaker 2 Ben literally said to me last night, randomly, he was like, why was Taylor Strecker Sue Sylvester for Halloween?

Speaker 1 So many people thought that, Claudia, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 She does own the red tracksuit. So like, I hear that, but the hair, I thought, the mole, you executed it perfectly.
I loved it. I was so, so impressed.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. I just wanted to be something not hideous this year.
Like the last time I dressed up, I was an internet troll and I was disgusting. That was funny, though.
It was funny.

Speaker 1 That was really funny. As long as it's funny.

Speaker 2 Your costume was funny, but that video you had posted pretending to be an internet troll was even funnier when you were like, oh, sorry. I didn't think you were going to open this.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's like, I hate this fugly bitch so much.
And it's like, oh, wait, you saw this? I love you. That's, that's the relationship.
That was a video.

Speaker 2 Oh, that was funny.

Speaker 1 Brilliant costume and well executed, but I felt like a like, I just.

Speaker 2 I'm not, you didn't feel pretty.

Speaker 1 I felt beyond fugly and I was so hot. I was like standing next to like, like reality TV stars in their underpants.

Speaker 1 And I just look like a schlubba dub. So anyway, I said this year she will, because I'm usually something funny.

Speaker 1 And I said, this year I give myself permission to show my stomach while my wife is pregnant.

Speaker 2 You looked amazing. And you are, and I, I know you know this, but I can't stress enough to you how blessed you are that you are going to have a baby and you will never have had to go off of Ozempic.

Speaker 2 I don't think you are grateful. I think you're taking that for granted.

Speaker 1 I think you're right.

Speaker 2 I don't think you're grateful enough for it. Like, I think there are obviously, I wouldn't know, but like a lot of challenges coming with, that come with being a lesbian, right? You know,

Speaker 2 coming out journey, the social norms, that time that, you know, person called you the D-word in the pizza place, remember? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I understand there are a lot of challenges. And so you've sort of earned this,

Speaker 2 but it's not fair.

Speaker 1 It's not fair. You know what? Thank you for reminding me why I'm so allowed to just bask in the glory of the Zempi

Speaker 1 forever, Forever and ever. I know.
It's so, oh, I really, I took my shot today. I'm like,

Speaker 1 sorry. You're disgusting.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 Some of us are over here getting bigger by the minute.

Speaker 1 Honestly, you look fucking phenomenal and don't you forget it. Please don't patronize me.
I'm not that patronized.

Speaker 2 Don't fucking patronize me, bitch, okay?

Speaker 1 I'm not. It's the truth.

Speaker 2 I miss you so much. We haven't had a Kiki.
I've only been out like since I had the babes, like

Speaker 2 five or six times. We had an amazing time when we went to Lady Gaga together.
That was so much fun.

Speaker 1 I like the fact that you're not here. Although we had an interesting moment.

Speaker 1 How about this? You witnessed an interesting moment for me. We cannot go into the details, but there I had an interesting moment at Gaga.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, I will refrain from going into too much detail because the toasters have accused you of talking too much about your former life.

Speaker 2 But just in case anybody is new here, I just want to say one thing. You might not know that at one point, Taylor was married to a straight man.
And Taylor has lived two lives.

Speaker 2 I have only personally known you. We met like 10 years ago, which was in your, you know, post-divorce life.
I never knew you in your like straight girl era. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you were just very much just like Tribeca brat. Like it's insane.
I just like

Speaker 2 like you had like you carried a shell bag. You had a huge ring on your hand.
Like it's, I just,

Speaker 2 it's just so crazy. I can't even picture it.

Speaker 1 I miss her. I love her.
I hope she's doing well.

Speaker 2 Having said that, every now and then we'll be out together and you will run into somebody from your former life. Correct.

Speaker 2 And it's insane to see like the way you switch.

Speaker 1 Really? Explain.

Speaker 2 So when we were at Gaga, we ran into somebody who obviously like, I didn't even know who they were, but like it was like just somebody you knew from your former life, like sort of like a couple friend from your former life.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if it's necessarily you switching, but I think it's also you just like kind of freaking because like you're in this new life. Freaking.

Speaker 2 And you just want everybody from your past to like die. Like you're like, I don't want to see you ever again.
You don't exist.

Speaker 2 And then when they kind of penetrate your bubble, it's very very jarring right even if you like said people it's still like it's still like oh my god like you know so it's like what are you doing here this is my planet and you're on the other planet you can't be here

Speaker 1 planet

Speaker 1 yeah literally so and this is the thing is i know i also get accused by my audience

Speaker 1 of being repetitive rita of literally never letting anything go and just they're like get over it it's been over 10 years you're with teddy for a decade and I'm like, no, no, no, I know it.

Speaker 1 And I know I'm so annoying. And I know I'm god-awful.
But like, people have to understand that, like, if I,

Speaker 1 I will never be able to fully escape it. It will, it will always be.
So when, when I am reminded of it, I fucking ricochet right back to like 1992 or whatever the fuck it was.

Speaker 2 If we're drinking, which we usually are, you become like low-key toxic.

Speaker 1 Do you think?

Speaker 1 No, I'm really trying to work like, especially like now here where I am. am like I'm like Taylor you've like look where you are You really have gotten the things that you wanted So like

Speaker 1 let's move on like let's enter this new phase of our life like let's not wallow in the past and like obsess Wow after 10 years She's not wallowing.

Speaker 1 Yes, clean I'm trying but like you know, I did I recently got interviewed for Cosmopolitan UK. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I was, I'm, oh, this is the thing too. I'm always asked about my stories very like you were married to a man.

Speaker 2 Because it's very interesting. It is.
You don't know a lot, meet a lot of like late-in-life lesbians who are as open as you are. So to that, we commend you.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 So I was asked about like the husband of it all. And I, when I read the quote, I thought, chef's kiss.
It was so nice about him. And it deserves to be.
Like, we are in a, so we're growing.

Speaker 1 She's growing.

Speaker 2 I love that, Taylor. Now, I had one more thing I wanted to ask you.

Speaker 2 How is Titty doing? And I've spoken spoken to her briefly about it, but like, you know, we, and I struggled with it too. Like, we are swirlies who love a cocktail.

Speaker 2 We like to swirl it up with a cocktail. Yes.
I know that you have not been like a sympathetic partner. You've not stopped drinking.
No. How is Teddy doing without the drinking?

Speaker 1 So I've been cocktailing more than ever.

Speaker 1 Which is the problem.

Speaker 1 But like, that's like, she's so cool. She never gives me shit.
There was a time in the beginning when I was drinking and I'd be like, are you mad at me? Is this annoying? Are you mad at me?

Speaker 2 Oh, God, you would become like a self-conscious drunk person. How annoying.

Speaker 1 She's like, if you keep asking me, it's going to be annoying. Just drink and chat up about it.
She really doesn't care.

Speaker 1 But she's been amazing. And I've even been like, Tay, like you're in your third trimester.
Like you truly could, because we were out to dinner one night.

Speaker 1 She's like, oh, what I would do for a glass of red. And I said, you, you could.
I won't judge. And she is just like, I don't want to.
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was like a nice part of pregnancy that I realized because I was worried. Like so much of my social life is, you know, revolves around.
I love a cocktail, I love going out to dinner.

Speaker 2 And like, you worry that it's going to be boring or that you're going to yearn for it and you can't have it. And your body really helps you out.
Like, it's the last thing you want.

Speaker 2 You have no cravings for it. Like, it's just yucky.

Speaker 1 It's like in your mind, you want it, but then when you get it, you're like, this is not worth anything. That's boring me.
It's kind of like when I first started going on Ozempics or whatever. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's like, I poured it because I'm

Speaker 1 an addiction.

Speaker 1 But then as I'm drinking it, I'm like, this tastes like swill.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Let me ask you another question.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did you hear what I said on the toast about the baby's name? I did.

Speaker 1 Also, thank you, Dan. Thank you for the shout-out.
The way I love a shout-out, it really means everything to me. Please never stop.

Speaker 2 So you're never, I mean, you're not never. You're not telling anyone the baby's name.
Listen. You and Teddy know it.
Who came up with it?

Speaker 1 We came up with it together.

Speaker 2 Who came up with it?

Speaker 1 We came up with it together.

Speaker 2 Hurry you.

Speaker 1 Fine, I guess it's fine. I guess it's me.
If you have to pick up. Oh, sure, sure.
Okay. No, like when you find out, you will understand, the truth will be revealed.

Speaker 2 And so did you like my suggestion, though?

Speaker 1 Your suggestion was so fucking good. So yours was Birdie, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Here's the T.

Speaker 1 Birdie was on our list very hardcore. We didn't even think about the Eagles-Birds connection.
Brilliant beyond brilliant.

Speaker 2 Oh, you just liked the name.

Speaker 1 It was so good. We almost put it back on the list because that's how good your logic was.
Like, I was like, but should we?

Speaker 1 It was a very strong contender. But then my sister-in-law, Tay's little sister, Allie, she has been fostering dogs and she fostered a dog that we were kind of interested in maybe adopting.

Speaker 1 And she accidentally, without realizing what she was doing, named it Birdie. And

Speaker 1 Birdie and her, she's a beautiful girl, okay? But Birdie and her snaggle-tooths, I can never get that. I can never

Speaker 1 get out of my head.

Speaker 2 No, you've made me hate the name now.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Bertie is officially off the list, but a very valiant effort and such a good guess. And very much.

Speaker 2 Have you told anyone?

Speaker 1 We have told no one.

Speaker 2 Tay's mother does not know.

Speaker 1 Her sister Ashley is literally, Ashley just recently, she's really A for effort. She's really trying to try.
She was like, Tay's birthday is coming up.

Speaker 1 I want to get her something, but I feel like it'd be like really great to save her something for the baby.

Speaker 1 But I want to get it monogrammed.

Speaker 1 So if you could give me, and I was like, listen, you know, I would tell you, like, right, right this second. I am scared of Tay.

Speaker 1 She is a pregnant woman. She doesn't ask for anything.
This is the one thing she has. No, we have to honor it.

Speaker 2 We have to honor it. I just want to say, like, it's insane that you're not telling me, and I'm so upset.
I know.

Speaker 1 Don't worry. Join the fucking club.
And so, but I almost gave her the initials, but then I was like, you know what? Things could really change in the 11th hour. True.

Speaker 1 So I just said, it's worth me not giving you the initials, but just like, no, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 I can't fucking wait for you to come home. I can't fucking wait for you guys to have a baby.
Like it's going to be so much fun. Like us and Brian, like we all have babies.
Like it's going to be sick.

Speaker 1 I know. Tay's actually coming home a little bit before me.

Speaker 2 Good. If she needs anything, you know she can come stay with me.

Speaker 1 Literally, can she come live with you? By the way,

Speaker 1 how's the new pad?

Speaker 2 It's so great. I'm so fucking happy to be home from LA, by the way.
I'm glad you're having like a nice time, but

Speaker 2 not for me.

Speaker 1 Not for me. I do get it.
I do get it. And don't worry, nobody's at risk of us moving out here.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I don't know. You're kind of crushing it with what I think you're doing.

Speaker 1 I just

Speaker 1 come out here, extended periods of time, loved it for work.

Speaker 1 I cannot be an LA person.

Speaker 2 In the car all day.

Speaker 1 I can't. It's not for me.

Speaker 2 Well, in terms of things you can do,

Speaker 2 Taylor, are you ready for the past five stories that you need to know?

Speaker 1 So ready.

Speaker 2 Let's go. All right.
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Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, okay, fine.

Speaker 2 Jennifer Addistan has a new man. They're going Instagram official.
His name is Jim Curtis. She's called him my love.

Speaker 2 So the friend star hard-launched her romance on social media as she wished her boyfriend a happy birthday alongside a very sweet black and white photo of her hugging him from the back.

Speaker 2 She wrote, happy birthday to my love, cherished. And then she added a red heart emoji.
I saw, you know, she tagged him. So of course I did like a very, you know, brief stalk.
He had 700,000 followers.

Speaker 2 So he's like,

Speaker 2 like a content creator. Yeah, he's like a content creator.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he does like wellness and things and, you know, whatever.

Speaker 1 I thought he was a magician, but then I just reminded myself he's actually a hypnotist.

Speaker 2 Oh, is he?

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's like a, like, I think he does a lot of woo-woo stuff, but like, one of his main things is hypnotizing people.
Like, to quit.

Speaker 2 So do you think she maybe doesn't love him? He just hypnotized her?

Speaker 1 That's the fear. Is she okay?

Speaker 2 That's like fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 Isn't that crazy? I mean, listen, he's very hot, but like he is, he's not a no-one,

Speaker 1 but I mean, he has seven times more Instagram followers than me. Not that I'm counting.

Speaker 2 But that's really crazy that he's a hypnotist. I never thought about that.
Like, because you know, you just find yourself in conversations all the time. Like, oh, what do you do?

Speaker 2 What does your husband do? Oh, my husband's a hypnotist. So, really,

Speaker 1 I don't want to judge, but it's an interesting profession. We'll say that.

Speaker 2 I like that. It's an interesting job for sure.

Speaker 2 It would. Have you ever been hypnotized?

Speaker 1 I actually have not. Have you?

Speaker 2 I have. I have.

Speaker 1 For what?

Speaker 2 So, um

Speaker 2 i know you didn't grow up going to summer camp so you might not understand but like a core memory and a core part of like literally any new england summer campus experience is like an evening activity being like they bring in like a hypnotist who like hypnotizes the kids and that sounds like a legal issue So everyone's like in the gym and like the the hypnotist like chooses chooses like 10 people.

Speaker 2 They brought it at school too, actually.

Speaker 2 Chooses like 10 people to hypnotize and you go and you sit on the chair. And I remember, I had, I have experienced like five or six over different summers and stuff, five or six hypnotists.

Speaker 2 And I remember wanting to be chosen so fucking badly because it's like the whole camp is packed into the gym and like only 10 or 15 kids get chosen. And I remember getting chosen

Speaker 2 and I remember like faking the entire time

Speaker 2 because he's like,

Speaker 2 when I snap my fingers, this girl will think she's driving a bus. And so we snapped.

Speaker 2 And I was like, hello. I was just like

Speaker 1 pretending to drive.

Speaker 2 Like it was so fake and so stupid.

Speaker 2 So I kind of understand what Jennifer Addiston's dealing with. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Totally.
Same, same.

Speaker 2 I imagine it's just like so frustrating to date a hypnotist. Like you get into an argument and like instead of gaslighting you, he just like takes a pendant and starts like seeing it out of your eyes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a little worried about her. Like, is she okay? No.

Speaker 2 So I mean, she's definitely going to dick the fuck down. He's enormous and so hot.
Yeah. And she's like in perfect shape.
You know, she could put her legs behind her back.

Speaker 2 So I think they're having a good time. I love an age-appropriate relationship.

Speaker 2 She threw him a birthday party and it looked like Courtney Cox was there, Sandra Bullock, Adam Sandler, tons of A-listers. So I think he's just fine, you know?

Speaker 1 So Rhys Witherspoon was just on Armchair Expert and she was kind of talking, somehow Jennifer Anison came up.

Speaker 2 About Brad Pitt, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. And she basically was saying how like she doesn't like overthink things.
She doesn't hold on to things. She's like actually like the most lovely person ever.

Speaker 1 She's friendly with all of her ex, Brad Pitt included. And like, who was the guy she was married to for literally one hour?

Speaker 2 Justin Thoreau.

Speaker 1 Yes. And like, and like, oh, and also Gwyneth Paltrow was at her, at Jennifer Aniston's 50th, and she was Brad Pitt's fiancé.

Speaker 2 Girlfriend, yeah. Well, you know what? It actually is so sad and crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 That even, even today, like when I went to choose stories on the front page of pig chicks, they were talking about Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt. Like literally nobody's ever moved on from that.

Speaker 2 And it must, she's like a deeply accomplished person. She's like a, obviously, a huge actress.
She's invested in a ton of businesses. She's the face of a lot of companies.

Speaker 2 Like, she's killer businesswoman. She's so accomplished.
And all we're ever fucking talking about is Brad Pitt.

Speaker 1 It's insane. It's insane.
So I'd like to introduce a new line of communication or conversation when it comes to her.

Speaker 1 Can we talk about how toxic it is to be friends with all of your exes and like all the people that are their exes too? That said, that speaks volumes. That doesn't, that's not a good look to me.

Speaker 1 That's a bad look. That's a fake look.
That's a fraudulent look.

Speaker 2 So I feel like I really can't contribute to this conversation because, like, one of my greatest slays in life is that I married my first boyfriend. Like, I don't have any exes.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't have to worry about

Speaker 2 running into someone at a restaurant like you kind of do.

Speaker 2 So, I don't know if it's crazy to be friends with an ex. It sounds nice.

Speaker 2 It's also crazy to like, you had sex with that person. I don't know.
It's just crazy, but I can't relate.

Speaker 1 I think it's crazy, but I'm also negative and can't let shit go. So, maybe I need to look into the mirror for a second.
Maybe I definitely

Speaker 2 have negative toxic tendencies. That's for sure.
What do you think is the most toxic thing about you?

Speaker 1 The way I can hold a grudge.

Speaker 2 I like that, but I actually don't think, like, I think holding a grudge gets a bad rap. Like, did you do something bad? Why should I forget?

Speaker 1 Right. And also, like, Queen Taylor Swift, she also loves a grudge.
And look at the gorgeous art we get from the grudge holding. So it's actually an amazing thing.

Speaker 2 And I actually have a Taylor Swift lyric for you that I think you will love. Go.

Speaker 2 And I bury hatchets, but I keep maps of where I put them. I bury hatchets, but I keep maps of, like, we'll bury the hatchet, but I keep maps of where I put them in case I want to unbury it.

Speaker 2 That's such a good line.

Speaker 1 I like that. What's that from? This new album?

Speaker 2 Reputation. No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm fraudulent.
I'm a fraudulent Swifty.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 1 I'm a low-tier Swifty.

Speaker 2 Well, I was saying this on the episode with Xandra yesterday.

Speaker 2 Like, I actually appreciate people who say, like, I like some of her music, because I think in this day and age, like, you have to be a swifty if you want to be like a content creator and if you say otherwise like i think a lot of people fake how much they like taylor swift me and margo i was just thinking about this the other day when the aerith tour was in new york we went to um one of the shows with a brand like in a suite and low-key me and margo had the worst time everyone there was fake fans like me me and margo are like diehards we know every song ever for like 10 15 years these people were like dancing and jumping filming themselves for like 22 shake it off and then sat through the rest of the concert and then we went home and saw their content.

Speaker 2 And I was like, literally, best night of my fucking life.

Speaker 2 Stop. You're so fake.
That is, I feel like it's such an annoying thing now where, like, people overplay and like exaggerate the type of swiftie there.

Speaker 2 So I really appreciate you saying, like, I like her music. I think she's a nice girl.
But, like, you don't have to be the biggest fan of everyone.

Speaker 1 It's okay. I really, really like her.
You know what? Actually, I have like, you know, those memories that you have that you're like, this, ugh, like, whenever you think about it, you want to die?

Speaker 2 Do, boy, do I.

Speaker 1 Would you say one of them was when we went and did karaoke together?

Speaker 2 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 No, I have so many like butt-clenching memories, especially when I'm drawn.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, so mine is actually from the same day that you did, we did the karaoke and we were Shannon Ford.

Speaker 1 We were at Chipriani. Yes.

Speaker 2 The three of us.

Speaker 1 We sat down and Taylor Swift came up and you and Shannon, you weren't trying to trick me, but I felt like you were trying to trick me, but you weren't.

Speaker 1 And you guys were both like, oh, what's your favorite Taylor Swift song? And I started to panic. And I felt like I was.

Speaker 2 It's so funny. I have no memory of this.
The fact that like it's something you have relived 10,000 times in your brain. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 I know we all went to Chipriani for lunch.

Speaker 1 The way I feel like you and Shannon after we're like, that was so embarrassing.

Speaker 1 Shannon hasn't spoken about it.

Speaker 2 What did you say?

Speaker 1 You didn't go home and write about it in your diary? No. What did you say when we asked? I panicked.
Like, I was giving a pop quiz and I like forgot names of songs. Like, everything went blank.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. And I was like.
I'm not embarrassed for you.

Speaker 2 What did you say?

Speaker 1 The one that's about Connor Kennedy, which there isn't one. I just.

Speaker 2 Which song were you talking about?

Speaker 1 You're on your own kid. You always have been.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's so not about Conor Kennedy. You know, like 15 years later.
There are some songs I've read about Conor Kennedy, but that's funny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So anyway,

Speaker 1 look at that.

Speaker 2 So that's it. Let this be a lesson to the listeners.

Speaker 2 Like the moment in your mind that keeps you up at night that like you're deeply ashamed of, that you like have gone over and gone over and gone over that keeps you up at night.

Speaker 2 No one else is thinking about it. Taylor, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. that is the most, you know what? This is life lessons with Taylor and Claude.

Speaker 2 Killing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Truly.

Speaker 2 Okay, next up, an American institution has died.

Speaker 1 McDonald's.

Speaker 2 God forbid.

Speaker 1 Toyota Toi. I know why not.

Speaker 2 No, Six Flags has officially closed after 50 years of operation. And I don't know why I chose this story because I feel like you used to fuck around at Six Flags.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's so funny. Now, listen, I didn't get fingered on a roller coaster like Reese Witherspoon in fear.

Speaker 2 Although, I've never seen that movie.

Speaker 1 Couldn't we all dream? Oh my God, everyone did for you. I'm so sorry.
It's the best part of the movie.

Speaker 2 I wasn't going to see it.

Speaker 1 I will say this. First of all, watch it.
It's amazing. Second of all,

Speaker 1 like my germaphobia overcometh me when I think about that scene because I'm like, they didn't have Purell back then. He didn't have wet wipes.

Speaker 2 And those places are fucking filthy.

Speaker 1 Filthy.

Speaker 1 So I, unlike Reese, I don't want to get fingered at an amusement park.

Speaker 2 Well, they posted on their Instagram, like, thank you for 50 years of family fun, yada, yada. But I had heard that they were doing like some sort of partnership with Travis Kelsey.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 In October, it was announced that he would be joining a group of high-profile business people to invest in the brand and enhance shareholder value,

Speaker 2 improving the guest experience.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 2 So, so is... Are they failing after Travis Kelsey or like they failed and now Travis is coming to help?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Let's let's say the latter because I like that.

Speaker 2 That actually makes me sad like for kids these days. I feel like this is like a real indicator of like kids don't play outside anymore.

Speaker 2 Like when I know I've definitely been to Six Flags, but I'm not like a big roller coaster person. Margo used to go all the fucking time.
I liked more like a water park, but those are like...

Speaker 2 That was like the most fun you could have as a kid, right? Like if you said your dream day, you would say like, I want to go to Six Flags with my friends.

Speaker 2 And I feel like everybody made so many core memories. And now like, what? They're just like inside like playing Twitch.
It's just sad. I know.

Speaker 1 I mean, I could never get fingered out of six flags. That's horrible.

Speaker 2 It's horrible.

Speaker 1 What a loss.

Speaker 2 You're, I know, like, you are a lesbian, but you're obsessed with getting fingered.

Speaker 1 No, I actually hate fingering. I think it's disgusting.
And everybody just cut it out, like, grow up.

Speaker 1 Oh, my.

Speaker 2 Oh, so you're self-hating Les.

Speaker 1 No, it's not about Les. It's about everyone.
Heteros are included too. Straighties are also a part of this.
Actually, straighties are the biggest culprits of the fingering crime. Oh, of course.

Speaker 2 It's our fault. It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 You're so negative.

Speaker 1 I'm such a straight hater.

Speaker 2 You are such a straight hater.

Speaker 1 Stratophobic.

Speaker 2 I just, I feel this cis flags thing is like a really bad sign. Maybe I'm looking too much into it.

Speaker 1 I know. Don't worry.
Don't worry. Like, listen, this is just.

Speaker 2 By the way, I am worried.

Speaker 1 But like, Blockbuster doesn't exist anymore. And then we got Netflix.

Speaker 2 So maybe we'll. You know what? Do you ever yearn for the days where you could just like get in the car? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No. What? Get in the car? Like have to go stand in the aisles.
For some reason, Blockbuster always made me have to poop. It's like the library or Walgreens.

Speaker 2 It just made it more of like an activity. Like nowadays, like you rot, get in bed and you just like scroll on your phone while a movie plays in the background.

Speaker 2 Whereas before, like you would have to go and pay and it made it a whole thing. It made it like movies exciting.

Speaker 1 I mean, yes, but like also, I don't know. I think that we just, we're, we're so spoiled.
Like we, we long for things that are actually so annoying.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah well that's true because like they're inconvenient but you know this would be a great time to bring up our 11 year age gap which is one of my favorite things to talk about um how did you interact with blockbuster like hey how old were you were you like going to blockbuster in college yeah i was uh i was 33 at blockbusters because i'm 103 right now

Speaker 1 I took my kids there. Fuck you.
No, it was like 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 I was like 12.

Speaker 2 No, I was like 12, Taylor.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 2 no you weren't bitch you were like working in a corporate job wait just

Speaker 1 wait a second so i top it with the elderly abuse

Speaker 1 also

Speaker 2 i yeah when i was in college i wasn't a loser going to blockbuster i was doing keg stands and taking like bong hits oh yeah one of the like craziest fun facts about taylor streaker that like doesn't add up with the profile i've built of you in my head is that you went to ithaca college okay wait it's seriously the weirdest fucking thing about you

Speaker 1 explain yourself. I have so many questions.
Like, do you feel like it's too good of a school or less good of a school?

Speaker 2 I don't even know if it's good or bad. It's like an unknown random school.
Who's ever heard of Ithaca College? Oh, like, when I think of Ithaca College, I'm like, oh, Cornell.

Speaker 1 Welcome to my biggest trigger.

Speaker 2 It's just like a random school. I don't know anything about it.
I guess it's how people feel about like Jackie going to Colgate now that I know about Colgate. I like Colgate's mother.
I get it.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Is it bigger?

Speaker 2 How many kids? I do.

Speaker 2 Is it a community college? Is it literally?

Speaker 1 It's a good job.

Speaker 1 I was raised by such educational elitists.

Speaker 2 There are your dad is a doctor.

Speaker 1 He went to Harvard. Oh, right.
And my mom went to Boston College, at least in Boston. That's like the Harvard of Boston, but

Speaker 1 it's like the Harvard of Boston.

Speaker 2 Harvard's in Boston.

Speaker 1 But like, you know, like BC is a really good school, at least. Yes, it is.
Where I, whatever. My brother went to Harvard.
My sister went to BC.

Speaker 1 And they were like, oh, good luck at your idiot school.

Speaker 2 You know what? I've never asked you this because I only know you as an adult. But like, what sort of role did you play as Taylor in your family? Your siblings are younger than you, yeah?

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot. Paige is six and a half, seven years younger than me.
And Zach is 11 and a half years, like younger. And same parents.
There's like.

Speaker 2 So you were the older sister. You were meant to, like, sort of like Olivia.
And in our family, like, Olivia really set the example. She She was a very good student.
She was definitely the smartest.

Speaker 2 She knew that she was like supposed to be a leader and she was. She used to yell at us all the fucking time.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And like was that the role you took on?

Speaker 1 I took more of a role of the cautionary tale. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Like, also an important role.

Speaker 1 Very. It was like, see what Taylor does.
Do the literal opposite.

Speaker 2 Did any of your other siblings get sent to San Francisco for the summer?

Speaker 1 To live with their Uncle Bo? No, no, they did not. They did not get that honor and privilege.

Speaker 2 Taylor, one of Taylor's, like, it's actually your favorite Taylor.

Speaker 2 Taylor has the same 10 stories, much like I do. Keenan Zuber Driver.
I have the same 10 stories.

Speaker 2 You have the same 10 stories too. And I'll never forget when you told me the story.
And I'm like, I've listened to your same 10 stories a hundred times and you never thought to bring up this one.

Speaker 2 Taylor was like a troubled youth. How old were you?

Speaker 1 I was going to my senior year of high school. So what that makes me 16 or 17.

Speaker 2 And you were like behaving poorly, so your parents set you up. I was doing

Speaker 1 a boy who loved pot

Speaker 1 and my parents did not and my dad was like they wanted to drug test him and i said no and then my dad said i want to be in the room where it happened the room where it happened

Speaker 1 He literally was like, I want to see the peek come out of his penis. I don't trust this kid.
He's going to bring his friend's clean urine. And I was like, you can't look at my boyfriend's penis.

Speaker 1 And my dad was like, I'm gay. My dad was like, I'm a doctor.
To which I said, that's also true.

Speaker 2 That's true.

Speaker 1 I surgeon.

Speaker 2 It's okay. Doctors and docts.

Speaker 1 I guess doctors and doctors. Anyway, so I just said, he'll fail it.
Forget it. Anyway, so they shipped me away to get away from him where I lived in San Francisco and smoked even more marijuana.

Speaker 2 And you're, you spent, what was it, at like the state fair?

Speaker 1 So I worked for my uncle in his casting agency and he said I was the worst employee he ever had and he fired me. But he said I had to work to teach me like life lessons, et cetera.

Speaker 1 So he bought me a job working at a carnival with a former employee of his who drove a 1980s teal Corvette, not in a cool way.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 God, her and her, I feel like her and her husband were pot dealers. Like the like the irony of what I was moved away from to go to.
So I left pot and I basically ended up by mistake doing meth.

Speaker 1 Can you tell everyone the story?

Speaker 2 I actually haven't heard it in a while. And it's seriously the craziest story.
You're literally Lee Ann Locken being a carney kid.

Speaker 1 I'm Leigh Anlock and Carney kid. I'm selling paintball games at discount.
What a saleswoman I was. I sold that shit out of those games.

Speaker 1 And there were always these like toothless wonders that were like our Carney neighbors.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And so they loved me. Ugh, of course.
They worded on me. Anyway, so

Speaker 1 we were, it was the end of the Carney season.

Speaker 1 I love this. Like,

Speaker 2 I forgot it.

Speaker 1 And so they were like, let's go into the

Speaker 1 graduation.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the Toothless Wonders, the Toothless Twins, Winnebago, where they live

Speaker 1 and have like farewell parties.

Speaker 2 Like a kiki, yeah.

Speaker 1 So we're all sitting around, gorgeous upholstery,

Speaker 1 shagrun.

Speaker 1 And I go to the fridge to get a beer.

Speaker 1 And all I know is they all go like this. No, no, no, stop.
There's a cooler.

Speaker 1 There was a cooler full of beers. I just thought,

Speaker 1 I go to open the fridge, they all scream. No, the next thing I know, I am outside of the Winnow Vago

Speaker 1 on the ground, being brought back to life. And they are like,

Speaker 1 we can't live there anymore. Our home is ruined.

Speaker 1 So it is my understanding that I opened their meth lab kitchen.

Speaker 1 And the noxious fumes

Speaker 1 like literally knocked me out. And I ruined their house.

Speaker 2 like seriously like that's what i mean when i say taylor strecker has lived a hundred lives like when you told me that story i couldn't believe i'd known you for 10 years and you never told me that story it was just so

Speaker 2 funny thank you thank you okay moving on

Speaker 2 Bitter Pimp Rules has a new show. Like they're starting from scratch.
It's season 12. They released a trailer.
There's a ton of hookers in it.

Speaker 1 I don't know

Speaker 2 uh their names are venus binkley jason cohen shane davis chris hahn angel angelica jensen marcus johnson audrey lingle natalie maguire demi salem and kim suarez um yeah they're trying

Speaker 2 something new they're not having like oh g cast members no one to like grandfather in the

Speaker 1 the way i don't give a fuck you know same first off check on sheena is she okay that she's not like castleise van der Pump did you see that Sheena was talking about her decision to not join the Valley?

Speaker 1 Please.

Speaker 2 No, but she said, like, she actually had Alex Baskin, the producer, on, to like sort of corroborate that she said no because nobody would believe it.

Speaker 1 I'm still not. I extra don't believe it.

Speaker 2 Do you have beef with Sheena?

Speaker 1 You know, I talked my fair share of smack back in the day when I was at Sirius, and she definitely heard because there's like an OG reunion, like second or third season, where she's screaming at Stasse and she's saying how Stasse talked mad shit on the the cast and Stasi's like, no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 And she's like, you and I on that girl show

Speaker 1 and pumping the Vanderpump old

Speaker 1 girl.

Speaker 1 First of all, we didn't. Second of all, like Sheena, stop stalking me.

Speaker 1 So I will say this.

Speaker 1 Sheena definitely, when we are at the same places, which is not often, but when we have been in the past, she avoids me enough that it tells me that she does know me and knows the things that I've said.

Speaker 1 Fair enough. I mean, there's been like, back in in the day, I would go to, like, I remember we had a dinner, like, it was Stasi and Kristen and

Speaker 1 Katie and Sheena, and we were at the Soho house. Tay was there.
And Sheena was like, she's just so pick-me. And I was like, girl, we're all here.
Like, everyone's sharing stories. Like, stop.

Speaker 1 Like, she, like, when it wasn't about her, she was like pushing her food around on her plate, pouting. It's just not for me.

Speaker 2 I just feel like this show is also not for me. Like, I'm just a little mature.
I've moved on. Like, I like the graduated shows, like, The Valley, I actually really enjoy.

Speaker 2 They said they were giving us a Stasi Schroeder reality show. I don't know if Hulu

Speaker 2 has gotten their act together. I did see Stasi posted, it looked like there was a camera crew with her in Vegas.
And also my friend Taylor, who's sitting right here, seemed to have been there too.

Speaker 1 There was, I did, I saw a TMZ story that said that Stasi was filming somewhere.

Speaker 2 And you were there. So you would know if they were filming.

Speaker 1 I don't. I didn't see myself on TMZ.

Speaker 2 I did. Oh, really? What was I doing? Did you look cute? You were dancing at the pool.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 I.

Speaker 2 So all that to say, I will not be watching this. I wish everyone the best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, listen, I do, I like Lisa Vanderpump very much.

Speaker 2 So. Oh, I saw Katie and Stassie were.
Sorry to cut you off. They were just hanging out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I saw on TMZ. Very.
Oh, oh. It looks very exciting.

Speaker 2 Yes, it does. Wishes of Weeho have returned.

Speaker 1 I know, right? I love a reunion.

Speaker 2 Yeah. In terms of this, I'm all set.
Yeah, I think I'm good.

Speaker 1 I love Lisa. So it's like, Lisa, I want your show to do well because you're, you know, you're Lisa Vannerpump, obviously, Vanner Pump Rules, but it's just not for me.
I know the trailer came out.

Speaker 1 I just feel like it's, I don't know. It's...

Speaker 2 I feel as though we beat this horse dead. They tried to regenerate the show many times, and I don't think it's worth saving.

Speaker 2 It was a moment in time. It will never be what it was.
Like just let it be.

Speaker 1 Right. It's like, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, there's been so many sequels that have happened and people were like,

Speaker 1 I wish Legally Blonde 2 didn't exist because it like ruined my memes.

Speaker 1 So maybe this is going to be the same thing or maybe it will be amazing. I will get, I will watch the first episode.
That I will do.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's big of you. I won't.
If it's amazing, I feel like I'll feel the pressure to watch it and then I'll start.

Speaker 1 I'll let you know. I'll be your litmus test.

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Huge news in the music space.

Speaker 2 The music industry will never be the same because Hilary Duff reveals a countdown on her website ahead of a music comeback.

Speaker 2 So she teased a comeback and and then she posted on her Instagram that she is releasing a song November 6th. It's called Mature.
I know.

Speaker 1 I'm worried about the title, but I don't care.

Speaker 2 I know. Then she also posted, well, not she, Jake Shane posted that he's having his season finale and it appears as though Hillary Duff is the guest that he was hinting at.

Speaker 2 And he's really like the go-to podcast, especially for music. I think a lot of musicians like understand his influence.
So that's a great place for her to go and talk about her new career. Love.

Speaker 2 Her husband, Matthew Coma, is like a digitally, not digitally, a critically acclaimed producer. So I actually do think the production value will be there.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, she is, I am so obsessed with Hillary Duff. And I'm like a late-in-life lesbian and a late-in-life Hillary Duff fan.
So I'm, because I'm old,

Speaker 1 I, she, I remember my little sister watching Lizzie Maguire. Lizzie McGuire.
And so it was like kids stuff. And

Speaker 1 you watch a girl. I watched Day by the Belle.

Speaker 1 Okay. I watched it on Twitter.
Did they have TV when you were growing up? No, it was just pictures. I just, I just moved the picture.
The radio. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 we got the picture book right after the advent of the radio. That's very advanced.

Speaker 1 But I just like, so when I got to work for Younger and I did their after show, Getting Younger.

Speaker 2 Oh, I forgot you hosted that show.

Speaker 1 I like didn't understand the Hillary hysteria that existed. And I got to know her through doing the show.
And she is just truly the most amazing celebrity I've ever met in my entire life.

Speaker 1 She's the fucking best. She salted the earth.
I'm completely obsessed with her. So, and like she can like do no wrong.

Speaker 2 Like I just she did do wrong to me, but I don't want to get it.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, I forgot.

Speaker 2 You know what? I've moved on. She went on the good guys and Ben said the same as you that she was amazing.

Speaker 2 Like if Hillary Duff is your hero, I think like meeting her would be above and beyond your expectations.

Speaker 1 She like even I'd come on set. She'd be like, so how's Taylor doing? She like she's like a real person.

Speaker 2 I love that. That's really nice.

Speaker 1 You must have just had, you met her, you must have met her, like, she maybe was gamming down with the flu.

Speaker 2 So no, it was when she had brown hair.

Speaker 1 That's it. Do you remember? As a blue nut, I can

Speaker 2 she was post Disney in her pop star era. She was definitely just like a bratty.

Speaker 2 She wasn't a teenager. I think she was in her young 20s, but like, you know, she was like a, like a starlet.

Speaker 1 Those are hard times for children stars.

Speaker 2 Yes, definitely. And I also think what you're talking about, like her humanity, is a real testament to how she has maintained a good career from child to adult.
Very hard to do.

Speaker 2 It takes a mentally tough person.

Speaker 1 Truly. I think I interviewed Justin Bieber when he was like, I'm not a widow boy.
I'm a big boy. And it was a disaster.
And I talk about things that keep you up at my, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 Oh, that.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 1 But, you know, Justin, I mean, I don't know if he's thriving, but he's been through it. But, you know, he's doing

Speaker 1 better than me.

Speaker 2 I also think like we don't know how Justin Bieber's doing. Like I think everything is very much like a facade.

Speaker 1 Fair, fair, fair.

Speaker 2 Now, Taylor, you're one of my favorite people to have on, especially on a Tuesday when we do Dear Toaster's our weekly advice segment.

Speaker 2 So will you join me in helping the Swirlies out there in desperate need of our help?

Speaker 1 I'd love to help. I mean, listen, do what I say, not what I do.
Oh, of course, of course.

Speaker 2 Now, every Tuesday here at the Turst, we like to give a little bit of advice to our listeners. So if you ever want to write in, please do so.
Head to the toastpodcast.com.

Speaker 2 There's a little submission box, totally anonymous, or you you can just shoot us an email, dear toasters at gmail.com. Both methods are totally anonymous.
We'll help you out.

Speaker 2 Anything from office, workplace drama, relationship drama, wedding shit, family shit. We don't give a fuck.
All right. Hey, ladies.
I'm a bridesmaid in an upcoming wedding for my best.

Speaker 1 What? I just love wedding drama. Go.

Speaker 2 Do you? Okay. So I'm in.
I feel like you and I are going to have different takes on this. I am a bridesmaid in an upcoming wedding for my best friend.
I have a baby who will be two months old.

Speaker 2 She is exclusively breastfed and will not take a bottle.

Speaker 2 After some thinking, my friend and her soon-to-be husband have decided that they don't want children under 10 at the wedding, including breastfed babies.

Speaker 2 My feelings are hurt as an exception cannot be made for my baby to be there, and therefore I'm unable to be there.

Speaker 2 Logistically, I don't think it's possible for me to be a breastfeeding mama and a bridesmaid at the same time. Am I the problem here? Is it fair for me to back out as a bridesmaid?

Speaker 2 Thanks for the help. I, I just feel like everyone's giving up like so quickly.
There's not a solution.

Speaker 2 He doesn't have to be in attendance.

Speaker 1 They are giving up so quickly. It's like, what if, well, listen, I don't know the ins and outs of breastfeeding, even though I I took one whole class.
I know that's crazy.

Speaker 1 I'm not an expert yet, but like, I, here's the thing. I already love this person.
I love this woman, this girl, this mother, this breastfeeding mom, because she is like, you know what?

Speaker 1 These are the rules and it's just not going to work for me. So I'm just going to remove myself because there's a lot of people who make everybody else's wedding about them.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 I suffered at the fate of that once upon a time.

Speaker 1 But we've moved on now and we're grown. But like,

Speaker 1 I'm literally being triggered so hard. I'm like, don't say it.

Speaker 1 But I just feel like, you know what? Like, yeah, if you can't do something for a wedding and like, I respect so hard that she's already following the rules. So I think we're off to a grand start.

Speaker 1 I think she should go to the bride and be like, listen, I love you. Your rules are your rules.
Your wedding is your wedding. I respect that shit out of you.
That being said,

Speaker 1 I'm a breastfeeding mom. I have a baby who will not take a bottle.
It's like an issue. So I...

Speaker 2 Well, what does this bride expect you to do? I feel like the bride, like low-key, doesn't want you to be a bridesmaid anymore because she's literally put you you in an impossible situation.

Speaker 2 Of course, your baby's not going to starve. So if the baby's literally not let on the premises, then you can't be there.
But I don't know. This kind of sounds weird.

Speaker 2 Like you would try to make this work. You're also, you have a two-month-old.
That's, that is so postpartum.

Speaker 2 The fact that you're like going to her wedding and spending a day away from your two, eight weeks, like that's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 I don't know why. I just feel like this girl doesn't want you at her wedding because she's not being even remotely flexible.
It's something, I feel like I'm missing a piece of information here.

Speaker 1 I do too. I feel like, how about this? She'll get her answer.
I think she just go back and be like, respect your boundaries because every bride like loves to hear that.

Speaker 1 And then say, but because of that, I don't think I can not only be a bridesmaid, but attend the wedding, but definitely not a bridesmaid because it's all day long. So just say, so like, I'm not mad.

Speaker 1 It's all good. I'm just going to back out if that's okay with you.
And then you'll see the bride will either be like, wait, wait, wait. I don't want that.
Let's

Speaker 1 try.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 2 She's saying backing out of the bridesmaid duty, not of the wedding.

Speaker 1 Right, because that's like a whole day long. And then you'll see your friend.
It's like, so you'll get your answer. Either she'll be like, okay, get the fuck out, bitch.

Speaker 1 Or she'll be like, oh, wait, let me figure out what I can do. Or fine, you're the exception to the rule, but you're a bridesmaid.
So we can like make it work.

Speaker 1 Her answer will tell you all you need to know about your friends.

Speaker 2 Yes. Because not to be a conspiracy theorist, but just based on the information given, it's like, oh, your friend hates you.

Speaker 1 LOL. Not you.
Right? To the dark side. I'm, as a.

Speaker 2 That's just what it feels like.

Speaker 1 Like, obviously it's her wedding and it's all about her and whatever she wants, she gets, but like you can be a little bit flexible with the girl who's in your bride bridal party who had a baby eight weeks ago like no no no you know what you're right this is my non-mom side talking it's like no like her friend if she's not a total self-absorbed bitch should be like would just make a few accommodations would be like but that doesn't apply to you i know you just had your baby so obviously we'll work something out her just sending this like blanket statement rule yeah you're right exactly there is like a there's a subtext to the context it's hard not to be a conspiracy theorist your friend hates you she's the worst friend friend ever.

Speaker 1 I fucking hate her. I'll never talk to the bitch again.

Speaker 2 Your husband is gay. You're gay boyfriend.

Speaker 1 I know. I saw him at the gay bar the other day.
He was at the gym.

Speaker 2 Your friend hates you.

Speaker 1 Are you what? Next week, you know what I heard? Your baby hates you too. Oh, Taylor.
I've never. I thought we were joking.
We are.

Speaker 2 This next one is a total 180, okay?

Speaker 2 One of my friends has decided to introduce herself to a guy at a party in an Irish accent. She told him that she grew up in Ireland.
I'm dead. She, in fact, did not.

Speaker 2 She studied abroad there for two months. We were just out to dinner with a group of our friends.

Speaker 2 She mentioned that she's still going on dates with with this guy and they're actually getting quite serious.

Speaker 2 I didn't say anything about it because I thought maybe it was just a bit, but as we were leaving dinner, she called him and as she walked to her car, I heard her doing the accent.

Speaker 2 She's always been kind of like a pathological liar and I've really kept my distance from her in that aspect. But this is really out of hand.
Do I confront her? Is this crazy?

Speaker 2 It is so crazy. I just want to say this girl sounds funny.
I know it's like probably annoying to have a friend who's a pathological liar, but I respect her like committing to the bit.

Speaker 2 You definitely shouldn't confront her because it's like literally none of your business.

Speaker 1 Like who cares?

Speaker 2 Who cares if she's like lying to this random guy? But it's a funny story. Like, I'm cracking.

Speaker 1 She's fun. I like her.
I want to hang out with her. Let's bring her out with the Swirlies.

Speaker 2 Do you know anyone? Do you have like a friend in your life who you know is just like a fucking liar? Like everything that comes out of their mouth is a true lie.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes, yes. And this person I knew and loved.
And then we kind of had a falling out. And then anybody that would listen to me, I was like, she's a liar.
She's a liar.

Speaker 1 She told a lie about me that was so crazy, like truly like made me question her mental health. Like, it was, she made it up out of thin air.
It was based in absolute no-truth money. No fact.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it's very freeing when you realize that about someone, that, like, everything they say is a lie, but it's hard to get, like, other people to believe you.

Speaker 1 But, but we reconnected, and she's fucking awesome. And, like, I don't even care because she's just,

Speaker 2 wait, no. So, she totally did the thing that you totally did the thing.

Speaker 1 I did not.

Speaker 1 No, I did not. Yes, you did.
No, and no, and how could you forgive someone like that? Because she's so fun. And we never.

Speaker 2 Do I know this person, by the way?

Speaker 1 You do not know this person. Yeah.
But she, and we've actually never talked about that part of it.

Speaker 1 But I'm willing to let it go because I think that she was in a momentary, like, I think that she became an

Speaker 1 insane. And so I actually don't take it personally.
So you know what? I walk that back. I don't think she's a liar.
She did lie on me, but I think it was just extenuating circumstances.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 You say you hold grudges, but you really don't because that's a very healed thing for you to say. Not you blaming her boyfriend.
boyfriend.

Speaker 1 I blame him for everything to the day I die.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry, just this girl walking to her car and putting on a fake Irish accent for her man. Like, you know what? It's hard to get a guy.
And sometimes you have to spruce up your personality.

Speaker 2 You know, we all, we all act differently on a date. You know, we talk a little bit more proper and we sit a little bit straighter.
So she's pretending to be Irish. You know what?

Speaker 2 I commend her because you know what? To get married these days, you have to be really committed and you have to put your best foot forward. Yeah.
And you know what?

Speaker 1 I respect it. It's giving Hilaria Baldwin.

Speaker 2 It is giving Ilaria.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you have to be interesting for your mans if you want to, you know, if you want to catch him, if you want to make him marry Zoo.

Speaker 2 And you know what? While she did have a momentary cancellation, she's doing better than ever, Hilaria. So I feel like we're going to see this Irish girl on Dancing with a Stars.

Speaker 1 The fraudulent Irish girl.

Speaker 2 The fraudulent Irishman.

Speaker 2 Our third and final is a little bit of like weight related, which I think we're both really experts on. Yes.
Hey, Claude and Jax, I'm a longtime listener in desperate need of advice.

Speaker 2 My mother-in-law loves to buy me clothes just because. Normally I would consider this a sweet gesture.

Speaker 2 However, each item of clothing is hideous and it's always a size extra small or small, despite my mother-in-law knowing I'm a medium slash large my whole life. I've told her this many times.

Speaker 2 Each time she gives me these clothes, it's in a group setting.

Speaker 2 And each time I hold up the item and check the tag, she always announces, now, sweetie, I couldn't remember what size you were, so I got two of them.

Speaker 2 Just let me know if you need the bigger size and I can return this one. It's such a bitch move.
It makes me want to crawl out of my skin. I just graduated law school and passed the bar exam.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to lose that extra weight I gained during that stressful time. And my mother-in-law's comments really make me want to die.

Speaker 2 My husband says I'm thinking too much into this and that my mother-in-law is just trying to be nice, but I've always been a bigger girl.

Speaker 2 And I have to admit, I can't fit into a size extra small, small to a whole table of people is embarrassing. I feel like it's intentional.
Am I crazy?

Speaker 2 Or is my mother-in-law totally trying to fat-shame me? What do I do? Please help.

Speaker 1 Your mother-in-law's crazy. She's the devil.
That's what we said.

Speaker 2 Incarnate. And your husband's an asshole.

Speaker 1 Totally. Oh, of course.
She's not doing that. Shut up.
Right.

Speaker 2 Shut up. And here's the thing.
We have to, this woman is hurting you, right? She's embarrassing you. She's making you.
And I just want to be clear.

Speaker 2 Yes, she maybe doesn't know your weight, but if you said like, you're an oversized, not oversized, sorry, you said a heavier sized girl and her buying an extra small.

Speaker 2 Everybody knows when you buy a gift for somebody, like if you want it to fit, you, you just go bigger and you don't even talk about the size. You just like give it to them.

Speaker 2 Your mother-in-law's a bitch. Your husband's an asshole.
This is 100% intentional. And we have to, we have to get her back.
Like, sorry, if Jackie were here, she would be like, well, maybe.

Speaker 2 Now, now we have to get this woman back. And here's what you do.
Okay. Because she like buys two sizes.
Yeah. And this woman's like clearly spending a lot of money.
Let her. Let her.

Speaker 2 Here's what, here's what you do. You're going to donate the clothes.
You're going to throw them away. Don't give her the other size.
Like, let her keep spending money. Be like, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 More, more, more. Let her run up a big fat ass bill.
Meanwhile, you're sell it. Poshmark.
Start a Poshmark.

Speaker 1 Literally start. That's what I did.
I had somebody who I used to know. Okay.
I'm going to leave it there.

Speaker 1 And they got me an extra small bikini. Everyone knows you size up.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't know that because I don't wear bikinis, but good to know.

Speaker 1 And, well, I never wore it because it didn't fucking fit my goddamn. It didn't even fit my finger.

Speaker 1 And she also made a comment of like, I heard that when you wear bikinis that are smaller, it makes you look thinner. She said.

Speaker 2 Who is this bitch?

Speaker 1 Girl. And I was like, you are setting me up.
And then every time I saw her that summer, why aren't you wearing the bikini? Why aren't you wearing the bikini? Why didn't you wear the bikini?

Speaker 1 Psychotic hose beast. So no, I literally this happened to me and the girl was being mean.
She also said to me and I quote one time, I wore a short dress. I'm very insecure about my legs.

Speaker 1 I do not like my knees. I never show my legs.
And I literally was hashtag brave one day and wore a dress that just skimmed my knees. And she said, oh my God, look at you.

Speaker 1 I never see you in short things.

Speaker 1 And that was it.

Speaker 1 No, like, and you look great. So I'm telling you, these people exist.
They walk the earth. Yes.

Speaker 2 And they have to be stabbed back the way they're stabbing you. And here's another idea.
She's always buying you gifts. Why don't you buy her something? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Buy her something triggering.

Speaker 2 In an offensive size. Correct.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 Be like, oh, I thought this fit you great. And it's either like, and like it's big.

Speaker 1 Give her a taste of her own. She's a bitch.

Speaker 2 And honestly, like your husband's really pissing me off. Like, I know it's not his fault, but like the fact that he's not hashtag believing women.

Speaker 1 No, he has to. You have to believe the victim.

Speaker 2 You must. Yeah.
You have to play this episode for him because like he doesn't get it. And I understand he's not a woman.

Speaker 2 He doesn't understand like the trauma and the generational trauma that comes with sizing and like when you see a tag like you're automatically transported to like sweating in a dressing room like it's very triggering he maybe doesn't get it but the fact that like he's now gaslighting you and you're like wait am i crazy no you're 100 valid well i think that the way you get back at her is you force him into therapy thank you so much mother-in-law for the excuse and then you make him hate her ha

Speaker 2 Oh, love that, but that's like, that's kind of, that's playing the long term. That doesn't happen overnight, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm good at that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you do need to start planting seeds, though, because you need to start making. Actually, you know what? I'm a boy mom now.

Speaker 2 And I see things differently. And I would never encourage somebody to.

Speaker 1 But you would never do that.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Like,

Speaker 2 I remember when Jackie became a mom and she started doing deer toasters, you know, she started changing her tune a little bit. And she stopped siding so much with the daughter-in-laws writing.

Speaker 2 And, you know, she'd be like, but maybe.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait. Did you see the girlfriend? Did you see the girlfriend?

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 1 Whose side were you on?

Speaker 2 Depends. Like, you know, who are you asking? Mama turd? I'm asking.
Or wife turd.

Speaker 1 Turdy Lou Freebush.

Speaker 2 Turdy Lou Freebush is a mama.

Speaker 2 And I'll leave you with that.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's hard to pick Cherry's side, but

Speaker 1 Cherry. Yeah.
Cherry.

Speaker 2 Guys. Give it up for Taylor Strecker.
Absolutely always crushing. Thank you so much for doing this.
I'm sure you'll be back during the maternity leave. I love to do it.

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