Showing Up For Ourselves In A Meaningful Way That We Can Be Proud Of: Wednesday, March 26th, 2025

I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday.
It is hump day. And I literally feel like a humpback whale.
So things I did that. Hey, Jack, how you doing? She's celebrating.
She's on brand. Hey, turtle.
I'm doing good. I didn't even realize it was hump day because like my week is split in two because today I'm traveling.
It's a travel day. Hence why the way I do I'm not even wearing shoes it's just a mess she's so crazy and I'm getting my hair cut tonight so I didn't do my hair so it's just like one of those like travel day episodes where Chris Appleton comes in and tells you you're ugly yeah I do want to say like upon seeing you this morning like I thought you looked totally beautiful oh my god thank you I mean I did like do all my makeup and like it's like I brushed my hair and

put it in a bun um I guess I don't know it's the lack of shoes that's throwing me off but I'm able to sit crisscross applesauce and I'm cozy as heck I don't wear shoes all the time on the show like as long as you're wearing socks you're in the clear by the way I will never know what's going on with your feet because I can't see your feet.

No, but when I, yeah, I guess.

I also have a busy day kind of preparing for your arrival. I have a lot of things I need to do in preparation.
I did give you some errands. The eagle is landing.
A lot goes into me arriving. We got to get the strollers out of storage.
I got to hit the kosher grocer to make sure there's cut up fruit and rotisserie chicken. Like there's lots do now I know obviously your day is much harder uh my day is no walk in the park no and I did feel bad even asking you for anything considering no like you're going through a lot but I do know like you do make your way to the kosher grocer so I was like I do travels and I know you always like to come with stuff and so you were probably going anyway so I was like I was can I request a chicken I'm also at the phase of pregnancy where like laying around like doesn't make me feel good and even though I like begrudgingly leave the house and go for walks and like just do random shit like I'm literally getting three manicures a week because being out of the house I do think is better for me I get better sleep at night like I need to be doing stuff so you giving me stuff to do it's okay that's funny I understand I actually did get a manicure yesterday.
Parji. Parji.
Speaking of Parji, I'm so excited about a new development at Toast headquarters. We've always had really cute Instagram stickers.
Like if you search for GIFs on your Instagram stories, if you search like The Toast or Ashera or Girl With No Job, you'll be able to find ones we've had made that say like our isms. Now they say premium content.
They say P-JOM. They say nothing of the sort.
There's a little thing of Theo. I'm going to get one of Romeo.
We haven't updated them in a while. What about Brutus? Bruno's not there.
Right. So like you have Theo.
You want to get Romeo, but not Bruno, who's given his all to the show yesterday. To be honest, the little gif we have of Theo actually looks more like Bruno.
And it also looks like Romeo. I don't think we need separate ones.
They're all twins, by the way. Whatever.

To the untrained eye.

I'm getting off track.

To the untrained eye, they all look the same. Yesterday, we published new stickers because we need a sticker.
Like sometimes you take a picture of like a beautiful landscape or a cocktail or whatever you're posting on your story. And it's just like pargy, you know? And you need a sticker that represents that.
So there are now Pargy, Pargylicious, and gargy pargy stickers that you can search on instagram and put on your instagram stories to narrate something that you find pargelish but i also think we should make more stickers like in different fonts because right now it's like um i love it the word art one but like maybe something also a little more aesthetic like like no for sure handwriting maybe we could contract her to write us one yeah lives to complain i got them up in like two hours and I had them all made. Like, please, my God, always critiquing me.
How'd you get them made? I have my ways. Word art? No.
I have my ways. I got them up literally in two hours.
Like, sorry that you're critical. I'm glad we have something.
And sometimes that's the vibe. I used them last night.
I was the first. I was an early adapter.
I was an early adapter. You were the first one to use it.
You make one like however you think is most part. You send it to me.
I'll get it uploaded. Okay.
Maybe I could even do my handwriting. Embrace my inner Megan.
Kind of like people who get tattoos. Yeah.
Of like handwriting. We're so authentic.
We can't even pay for a font. Fonts are expensive.
They are expensive. Go with the free ones.
But then the good ones are like, you have to pay for it. Well, I did go with the free ones and now I'm getting criticized on my own podcast.
I don't think it was a criticism. I think it was just like an enhancement.
And like, and also this. You know what I mean? Okay.
No, you're giving me jobs. I wasn't saying instead of.
I'm saying and also, like I'm just really excited. Sorry.
Excitement. No, I'm excited too.
I'm excited too. I can't wait to see what you come up with.
Thanks. It's just like fun, the more the merrier.
For sure. For sure.
So excited. Very, very thrilling.
You also today look like you work in finance, like in a good way. Oh my God, I do.
Let me tell you. So I'm at the stage of pregnancy where like this skims maternity top and these Lululemon size 16 leggings like are the only things that really make me feel comfortable.
So I have to put on different things on top of it to like switch it up for the podcast. I own one vest.
It's also hot in here. So I can't wear like a sweater or cardigan every day.
It's getting warmer. It's great.
A vest is great. I only have one vest.
I wore it last week. So I have to wait till next week to like wear it again.
So I was like, Ben, do you have a vest? The vest was disgusting. Yeah, I used to work at Goldman Sachs.
Here you go. No, this is like a, it's a golf vest, which is like the, yes, the finance correlation.
It's like a Patagonia. It's, I look like such a douche lord.
Like when Ben got out of the shower and I was like dressed wearing his vest, he was like, what are you wearing? She's going to sell stocks. I literally don't give a fuck.
You know what I mean? I think it's a cool look. You should also wear a hat and a backpack.
No. I think you look cool.
It's like a nice vibe. No, it's definitely like a unique choice.
I'm comfortable. And at this moment in time, like that's really all I can care about.
And it's like cold in New York. I looked at the weather.
It was a low of 37. Yeah, but that's like 53.
Yeah. I walked to work today.
It wasn't like. Did you wear a jacket over your vest? I didn't.
I was hot. Interesting.
But I'm going to be traversing all day running errands for you. So I thought I might need a coat.
But no, a vest is perfect because like you'll be hot in a coat, but you do need pockets. You said that vest was disgusting.
They revealed that day I wore a vest. Because that vest was disgusting.
Vests are so kind of amazing. My armpits feel so free.
Vests took a hit after that. A big hit.
No, vests are amazing because it's like, here, pocket say no more right here cover your love handles

yeah i might wear a vest with this because i like wearing a vest on the plane for the pockets it's a good thing to wear on a travel day id so it can fall out of your pocket for your id yes yeah and my phone chapstick trips to the cape maybe i'll find money in here no because he was making all that money. From finance.
No, him like betting people on the golf course, you know? Yeah. Or like tip money for the caddy.
There's no money in here. Should have known better.
I'm sorry. Well, we have a great show today because we have the Real Hot Tits in Beverly Hills recap at the end of today's episode.
We also have the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And how are those stories that you need to know? you really need to know them you think they came together in a meaningful way and the stories i would say like are showing up for us today strong it's so important small but mighty stories it's important that we show up for one another in meaningful ways and that you like the way that you are showing up for yourself that's a new thing people like to say i didn't like how i was showing up for myself i actually haven't heard that one oh i've been seeing that a lot like you need to and what does that mean for yourself claudia i don't know it's like the new ism it's i feel like it just means like how i am like your mood no just like i if you say i don't like how i am right now say that's what you're trying to say i wasn't showing in what essence i don't like how i physically look i don't like my mental state mental state like i'm not happy okay say i'm not Say that's what you're trying to say.
I wasn't showing up. But in what essence? I don't like how I physically look.

I don't like my mental state.

Mental state.

Like I'm not happy.

Okay.

Say I'm not happy.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Your disposition.

Disposition.

Yeah.

Like I'm just like not in a good place.

They would say,

I don't,

I wasn't showing up for myself

in a way that I was happy with

or was proud of.

Just like.

That's the new,

just look out for it.

I'm telling you,

I called you on holding

space for two things.

Yes.

Yes.

Watch out. We were a little late to that actually.
That one really took off. Watch out for showing up.
Now we're not holding, we're showing. I can promise our listeners that I'm going to show up today in a way that I am proud of.
Yeah, I hope so. I mean, as much as we can do an Asafi, we're trying to, even though we've already screwed the pooch, we're incapable of doing Nasafis anymore the thing is is it's so crazy because we do a daily show Nasafi is an opposite of Nalafi and Nalafi is a nice long one for you and we're talking about the length of our episodes yes they have been getting a lot we haven't done an episode under an hour in years and the crazy part of that is is that you would think that because we do a daily, we do five times more episodes than the average podcast.
Like you would think that it would be enough. And not only for us, like we would have enough time to say what we need to say, but also like the listeners would have enough.
Let me tell you, the longer our episodes, the better our numbers. Like people want two episodes a day now.
Like that's kind of becoming a new podcast format, multiple episodes a day, kind kind of like mimicking like I guess a cable where like there's things on all day you like release podcasts all day don't expect that from us um no no don't and theirs are like nasafis yeah they're like 15 minutes and it's like is anyone actually listening because what are they saying all's that to say you would think that like that would be enough meanwhile at the end of every week I'm like oh my god i forgot to talk about like six things on the toast this week meanwhile every episode went extra long we're pushing 90 minutes almost on a daily basis even days where we we're recording early today because jackie is a flight like just trying to cushion for time we will still you'll be late to your flight don't worry thanks thanks so much um so yeah i think like without further ado we should get into the last five stories that you I do need to know. Okay.
I did also just want to share like one personal anecdote. I'm sorry.
Before. It better be so good.
I just, oh, it's not. Okay.
It's really not. So I'll move on.
Now I'm curious. No, I just wanted to share like, you know, of course I'm not buying anything for this next chapter of my life.
Like there's nothing going on, nothing coming in, coming out, but I did purchase a new chair for my home it's a chair that reclines it's a chair that rocks back and forth well no actually i did receive a gifting thank you so much um you should know better for putting me on the spot yes i didn't purchase it um and i just you know i've been needing a new place to sit and just sort of relax and let me tell you it really makes me jealous of the people who like have their nurseries ready like three months in. Because the excitement that this one chair has brought me.
It's not normal. Well, new furniture is always exciting.
Especially a cozy chair. That's true.
I've been spending a lot of time in my own little corner in my own little chair where I can be whatever I want to be. And I'll use the chair while I'm there.
Yes, that's why I got it. I got it because Jackie's coming to town and I know she loves to sit.
And I thought that that was a good use of my gifting is to get a chair for my sister to sit in. Yeah, like this week, you never know when a nap is going to need to happen.
Right, and I don't want you to be in my home and that kind of befall. Not be able to rock my child to sleep.
Like that would right right right right or even yourself or even yeah

selves so yeah it wasn't like an amazing anecdote i just like was sharing a personal update i'll never do it again a lot of pressure i'm in a nasafi day now this nasafi is brought to you by booking.com booking. i'm not doing it because you put me down okay fine yeah i did make fun of This episode of The Toast is brought to you by Booking.com.

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Right. Like that's what that was.
You were like going in depth on sixth season and I had a reaction. Let's get into the story, we I guess our first story which I know is really near and dear to your heart and actually both of our hearts it's a kind of a it's a combo it's a combo of our favorite subjects I wouldn't say for like our queens are you talking about Gwyneth and Megan yeah but like I wouldn't say Megan is my queen you know I think it's a little more complicated than that.
Yeah, you're a little too critical of her, like in an honest and endearing way, to have her be considered your queen. Whereas like Gwyneth could seriously kill somebody and I would find a way to defend her.
So we're just like heavily interested in both of them. But like as a Queen Elizabeth Stan, like Meghan will never be my queen.
Sorry. Right, right.
She is my queen. Rip.
Meghan Markle and Gwyneth Paltrow address their rumored beef during a surprise hangout. So over the last few days, we talked about a little bit last week.
Gwyneth was asked about Megan. She gave a very non shady response that everyone took to be shady.
And then she posted a video of herself making breakfast in her kitchen, just like a party vibe, eggs, bacon, coffee, Montecito, and put on the song Everlasting Love over the video. And people really took that to be a dig at Megan and honestly I thought it was a little shady oh my god so I don't know just the way it was being positioned I was like oh is this a shade no way honestly I saw people like I saw people pitting them against each other before there was anything to even work on because they're in a similar it's the same thing that happened Kourtney Kardashian.
Like people just assume that if you're encroaching on the wellness space,

like Gwyneth is the queen and time after time, she shows you exactly who she is. She does not

care about other women entering the space. She's extremely supportive.
She's also extremely secure

in her own business. Like no one's really going to come.
Goop is a billion dollar company. Like

good luck, everybody else. Please join me up here.
I welcome you. She has never done what people

thought she's going to do when like another female celebrity enters the wellness space. So with this Meghan thing, it was like, have we, did we learn nothing from Kourtney Kardashian? There's no world in which Gwyneth would have given a shit or like felt competitive or shady towards Meghan.
I think if anything, like, so, but before even the Instagram story or the Vanity Fair, people had been commenting being like oh Gwyneth is rolling over and she's not she wasn't I never thought for one second that Gwyneth like had anything negative to say or think about Megan I believed I took her at her work because she's not like a jealous or competitive person and like we've seen that time and again but I thought when she posted that breakfast video and maybe I don't see enough of her content. Maybe she posts that all the time.
So she does.

But when it was like framed like that and she used the song, I thought maybe she was maybe just like stunned in a little like.

No.

Now this is how you do breakfast in Montecito.

She's known for her breakfast.

She does hashtag boyfriend breakfast.

When she started dating Brad Falchuk, this is like this is what I made my boyfriend for breakfast.

And now she like always calls it boyfriend breakfast.

I've seen her make like a thousand breakfast. Right.
It's so if you know Gwyneth, like I do on like a deep spiritual, emotional level, you never thought anything of it. So she did a Q&A on her Instagram.
Someone asked, are you comprehending the Meghan Markle beef that social media says you two have? And she's like, no, I don't understand this at all. And she turns the camera.
She's like, do you understand this? And it's Meghan like chuckling and taking a bite of the food that Gwyneth has made them now let me tell you while I never thought these two had beef I never expected to see them sitting at Gwyneth's dining room table no same especially because people had said they both live in Montecito and it was said that they are they've never met or if they've met they're not friends so that just points to like the opposite or I actually think that like a lot of I could see Gwyneth saying that thing in her vanity fair or whatever it was that got taken out of context. I could see Gwyneth having reached out.
Yeah. Like, by the way, I didn't say this.
I know you live nearby. If you want to like come over for coffee and chat, like I think you're great.
And I can actually see like people thinking that they were not friendly with one another, bringing them together, having been the thing. I totally agree.
That's how I saw it go down to like a clarification text message. Hey, let's get together.
Yeah. Having my people call your people.
Yeah. Now, it takes a lot to shock me.
I was genuinely shocked. I thought she was just turning it to like her assistant or something.
Well, by the way, if you watch the Q&A, she's doing it at the same kitchen table like the whole day and she was asked a question about being like a female founder and she's like, oh, I'm actually sitting here with my partner and they turn the camera to the partner who's sitting like in Megan's seat at the time and they answer this question about like being a woman in business. So when she turned the camera, I thought she was going back to her partner.
Yeah. Do you think Gwyneth will do her podcast of Confessions of a Female Founder? That's a really good question because Gwyneth has a podcast, a very successful podcast.
Nikki Glaser's actually on it this week. I was seeing clips that actually looked like I wanted to watch it.
I feel like when you have a podcast, you're more inclined to do a podcast. Or like if you're going to do it, do you want it on your podcast or on the other person's podcast?

Sometimes you do a pod swap

in a situation like that.

Yeah, I feel like celebrities at this tier,

like we're getting one,

not two pod swaps.

You know what I mean?

I don't know if they have two in them.

No, I agree.

I think that it would be great for Megan

to go on the Goop podcast

to promote her own podcast

and all of her brands.

I agree with that.

And I think for Gwyneth,

like she's the more established podcaster and business person here. I think she should host.
Yes. And then also, did you hear the trailer for Confessions of a Female Founder? It dropped two days ago yesterday.
I didn't watch it with sound because I saw the trailer and I saw that Megan is not recording in a studio. She's recording with people on Zoom and a podcast microphone giving COVID.
And I really realized kind of the level of effort being put into this project. And if she's not going to put in the effort, I'm not going to put in the effort to watching the trailer.
Like I was really disappointed. Like female founders.
I thought we were going to see them all looking parchi together in a studio. Where are the clips? No, Zoom.
What is seriously? What is it crazy and if you're doing zoom you better get the best guess ever because there's no reason why you can't there's no scheduling conflict yep i listened in the podcast app so i had the podcasting experience the audio experience i had the visual so together we had one full thing and i found it really impossible to finish even just the trailer it was just really um it was really difficult and I didn't even know who we're talking to who was she talking to anyone we know right that's the thing like what I saw did she show people it was just the back of her computer okay so I I don't even know who we're talking to and then it's all these like you know tropes of just like cliche shit and maybe that's the trailer i'll just keep giving her chances um but i couldn't finish the trailer else to say no and it's like with podcasting it's like she's almost always there but not quite like even with archwell i or what was it called archetypes she didn't do video which like in this day and age your podcast doesn't exist if you don't have a video. And she had these premium people, but a lot of it was like, literally, unless you're smartless.
She had all these premium guests who she wasn't recording with in person. There were all these like pre-taped segments to like fill airtime.
So she was almost there. She got the guests.
She didn't really quite get the content and the video wasn't there. So this time around, I really thought because what she's doing is just kind of mimicking other successful ways of making money online.
Like she has the affiliates and she's doing Instagram content, but she's doing it all at like she's operating at a bad level. It's like the Instagram stories are blurry.
Now we're getting Zoom podcasting. Like Lemonada would stand for this.
I find that shocking. Oh, Lemonada had like a pargy intro in the beginning what was it oh like this you are listening to a Lemonada podcast something like that but it was like so Lemonada can I play it I feel like they will love that you you will love it that's it that's it Like you're at a spa.
Whose voice was that?

Megan or no?

Just like.

No, I think that's like Lemonada's CEO.

Thing.

The CEO of Lemonada.

Bum, bum, bum, bum.

I liked that.

Short and sweet.

Yeah.

Like you're at a spa.

So I don't think, especially now knowing what we know about the level of production,

I don't think Gwyneth will be going on female founding podcast fathers, whatever it's called. But I do think we could see Megan on Goop.
Have you seen the Goop podcast? It's pargy, like literally the sick studio. It's so Gwyneth's aesthetic, like very neutral beige, like really high quality video, high quality audio.
It's what you come to expect from a billionaire who's doing a podcast. Yeah.
So that's the latest. We'll see what's next.
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, which is actually some crazy influencer news that dropped yesterday that has a Jewish world in a tizzy.
Oh, my God. Tizzy.
Alex Earle sued a British fitness brand, Gymshark, for $1 million after it axed her sponsorship deal over, quote, pro-Israel views. So Gymshark, which is a British fitness brand, has settled a claim for $1 million from Alex Earl after they allegedly axed her sponsorship deal over online criticism of her pro-Israel views.
She filed allegations against the company at the high court, arguing it owed her the equivalent of £770000 pounds in damages for terminating the deal prematurely. So Alex Earl on October 7th.
No, this is so crazy because what one brand like this brand perceived Alex Earl as being like radically pro-Israel and they found that so offensive, right? Whereas if you remember at the time I was very invested in like what people were posting on social media because this was like sort of the craziest thing to happen to my people in my lifetime. And I remember seeing Alex post like a story just being like right after October 7th happened.
So there was no war. There was no retaliation on October 7th.
It was that morning. I think the terrorists were still in the country.
Right. Like rape, murder.
It was so like it was so not a controversial thing at the time to even say like praying for all the people getting murdered and raped. Like it really wasn't.
And so she just posted that card. I think it was the same one that Kylie.
Kylie. It's like a blue sky and a flag.
And it said, we stand with the people of Israel. Something like that.
So honestly, you post about anything when something happens in the world that's usually the textbook like we stand with LA we stand with power anytime there's a tragedy we stand with them okay and I remember being like oh okay like like me my bar is so high I'm like oh she's phoning it in a little bit and then she ended up deleting it because I assume she got so much backlash which is fucking crazy now we now know two years later there was even more backlash. And I'm sure part of the reason why she deleted is because she had this million dollar deal and the brand is like coming at her neck for for posting something completely innocuous.
And honestly, good. Like I stand before I happen to love Alex.
I think she's like so cute and adorable. Now I know she has a backbone and like I you there's nothing you could say to make me dislike this girl yeah no she I mean she did take it down which at the time we were really hard on her for and I feel bad about that now um because I know where her heart is at and it's with the people of Israel and so then when she was like asked to clarify on comments she was like my heart continues to be with everyone who has been impacted by these horrifying acts of terrorism she said like people are getting raped and murdered like i'm against that it was so not a crazy stance like not at all but the fact that then she didn't like swing the other way and and post just to appease people like that is what we would call a backbone in this day and that she's not letting this brand get away with terminating her contract and she won the fact that she then pursued legally which she has every right to do and the fact that she won is like proof that the law was on her side and that the brand acted like in breach of contract but i think a lot of people maybe wouldn't have pursued the legal route because it creates a bigger story and i'm sure this like little you know this moment of backlash is not something she wants to become a national news story and when you do sue someone like look we're talking about it now now it's a story it's back in the news even though this is two years old so I think a lot of people would have avoided that um because she makes a lot of money and I know a million dollars is like a lot of money but when you're at that level like it's not a million dollars to you it's like one brand deal in a sea of brand deals and I didn't even know she does stuff with Gyhark.
She has so many more like prominent brands that she does. She might have been able to let this go, but no, like on principle and also give me my money.
One thousand percent. Yeah.
So like respect. Yeah.
She had said at the time she had said, I'm shattered over the inexcusable, disgusting, disrespectful torturing of women, children, babies, babies and so many others there are no words to describe a tragedy of this magnitude and the mass devastation it has caused I feel like I need to no not me placing an order at sipmargs.com like how can I support I think we need to sip on some sipmargs.com I think we do too after of course we sip on some spritz society.com Ben's gonna kill us

no it's different she does margaritas we do she does tequila we do wine it's so different

couldn't be the same like uh like subscribe comment rate review whatever I can do to support

this queen yeah and also not her like putting this brand on blast because I don't really know

this one but I actually had just seen like yesterday before this a video of this girl

she had like was taking before and after selfies at the gym because she was losing weight and she's

Thank you. one but i actually had just seen like yesterday before this a video of this girl she had like was taking before and after selfies at the gym because she was losing weight and she's wearing these gym shark leggings and they are like flesh colored and they are meant to be like pink camo but it seriously looks like she's naked and it's horrible and she's like they're horrible and she actually dyes them at home like on her kitchen oh that, like to make them black.
And it was just like the opposite of a good ad for Gymshark. So it's just a bad day for Gymshark.
But that's what happens when you're bad. Things I won't be purchasing, Gymshark.
Like seriously. Not that I go to the gym.
She's such a queenie for this. I was shocked when I heard this story.
I thought for sure it was like fake news. And then I Googled it and it was like legal.
It's in's in the UK so it hasn't really hit like American media so hard But it was in all like the Daily Mail, the Independent Yeah Because it's happening over there Yeah because when I was looking for stories this morning I didn't see it anywhere and then I remembered that I wanted to talk about it And I had to go and look for it Right But go off Queen Queen, sitmargs.com. Sitmargs.com.

They look so amazing tasting.

I'm drinking my coffee, but I wish it was a sitmarg.

And I'm going to be listening to Hot Mess on repeat.

I fucking love that podcast.

You know, actually, I really love that sister, Ashton.

I just started following her on all platforms.

Are you an Ashton or an Alex?

That's a really good question. What are their dynamics? Like if you had to apply them to us who's who i just assume that i'm ashton she seems like the one that's like alex is like fun and outgoing no they both really are but like we just know alex better they're very similar ashen seems like alex is older more sober not in an alcohol sense but just in like a you know the little sister who's growing up fast to be honest like i don't know enough about their like personalities yeah yeah but i stan i stan our next story some new music news something that's been in the works in the while for a while has been announced that miley has announced her visual album, Something Beautiful, with a release date.
So Miley has announced her upcoming visual album called Something Beautiful, which is releasing on May 30th. Though details surrounding the record are scarce, she revealed that her ninth album will feature 13 original tracks and is executive produced by her and Sean Everett.
I just feel like I need to use this as an opportunity to speak my truth. Okay, but let me just give a few more details.
She also revealed the album cover, which is an artsy shot of her in a Mooglare couture. And it's 13 songs with accompanying music videos, making it a visual album, and it will tell some story.
It's some like pop opera. Right, because that brings me back to my truth truth I know what is a visual album and like we need to stop coming up with new words so you're making music videos for your songs like that's like each music video relates back to enough like I think it's like one long music video so it's a movie but it's I guess a visual album so it's a musical kind of like Kelsey Ballerini's.
Was that a visual album? Was there a video for every single song? Yeah, but it was a short song. But it was an EP.
So it was like six. Yeah.
It was a visual EP. I know when I think of visual, I feel like the term visual album came from Beyonce's Lemonade.
And when she did it, it was like revolutionary. And now I just feel like people are trying to be different.
Now, this is not me hating on Miley because Cause I do want to say this is the first time I feel like Miley's released an album where I feel like I'm really at a place to not like sleep on it and not, you want to accept it. I want to understand it.
Like I want to really dive into it. I feel like for me, but also for her, she's at a great place of, of joy and understanding.
And I feel like she really knows who she is. And, and I'm, I'm actually exactly.
I'm ready to show up for her in a way that I can be proud of I agree and there's been like whispers about her new album for a while now and so this is like what we've gotten and I'm also just like a little worried I don't want to doubt her but like it does look very artsy avant-garde like Lady Gaga like above my pay grade a little bit like grade a little bit like and then veering a little bit like towards dead pets i'm just like that's my concern not in like wow just in like a very extreme sort of way i don't know but like what i was seeing wasn't like oh my god i need to see this now maybe it's something i will grow into and I need to like mature in my understanding of art but it looked a little bit out of my reach and does it look like so different than the previous era of like flowers yeah it's like I know I used to be crazy it's very punk hard like uh you know metal like is it closer to like glass hearts or whatever whatever that album was called flowers it's not it's not like stripped down malibu it's honestly it feels like something from lady gaga like with the sharp edges sharp chiseled cheekbones no eyebrows which by the way i love no eyebrow representation more of that interesting i mean i'm gonna reserve judgment and show up in a meaningful way same I just like that was my I thought that's what you were gonna say which is like initial like just the initial visuals like I just feel like out of my grasp it just it looked um like monochromatic like black white as a piece of uncultured swine yes of course of course who just wants everything served to me in a digestible way yeah like palatable like for idiots yeah like kids bop literally so I will of course support her and I love her dearly and I'm rooting for her and I agree she's in a great place right now so I don't think this is like a work of a madman no no sometimes like when someone's really like not in a good place but also like has no of self. And they just like put shit together being like, this is me.
And we like, it comes off very confusing for the fans contrived. And so I feel like with this last year, like Miley has been like in a really stable, happy relationship.
She's had a lot of success when I feel like she wasn't really trying so hard. I feel like she was trying really hard for a while and like people weren't noticing.
So she was just like, fuck it.

And was writing music like just that she felt like writing.

And that's how we got flowers.

That's how we got used to be young.

And that's where she got her Grammys.

And so I want more of that.

Used to be young.

Don't sleep. That song is so fucking pargy.

I know.

I love it.

It's like it's one of those.

It's it's a it's almost in the category of songs that like are. If you think about them too hard, you'll start to cry.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
I was listening to an old Sam Hunt song yesterday because he had one 2016. Do you know it? It came out like the song is called 2016.
Yeah. And it came out 2020.
And it's just like all about his regrets. And I remember I listened to it all throughout COVID.
So maybe that's why it was making me emo because it was like just i was reminded of i think was like the first song on quarensteins but like it's such a pargy song and it's like just something about it's like so sad like about everything he would do differently no sometimes like songs i drive a thousand miles to your house walking like i walked walked out. Oh, wait.
Did you say Sam Smith? Sam Smith. Oh, my God.
I was like so confused because I'm like, she is, I think, misgendering Sam Smith. And I really don't know how we're going to navigate this.
And I was like, also, I didn't know that Jackie listens to Sam's. I was so confused.
I'd drive a thousand miles to your house. I fucking love that song.
You know, I hate Sam Hunt. Love the tears back from your eyes.
Yeah, of course I fucking know 2016 bitch. Okay.
I'm glad we're on the same page and you guys should listen to it. And let me know if it's like so good because of quarantine or because it's just so good.
Phew! You're like sitting there not listening to me because you know we're cutting it out. And I was going to correct you, but I actually don't know Sam Smith's pronouns.
So I was just like... That's just Sam Smith.
Right, right. And Sam said, and Sam did.
Oh, and then and sam did oh and then sam hunt yes it is the first song on quarantine i know exactly what you're talking about um and i like that song too listen to it again like it really hits like fresh in case you don't live forever by ben platt is of course that's like that's like seriously hit

the red button like for like emotional destruction yeah and then there's an anti-grammar song i like can't listen to without crying is it called like i'm yours or something i'm not sure um and of course if i'm on a plane the list gets bigger but of course of course and it's just every song um are you ready for our fourth story yeah fuck it you know shailene woodley has a new man i know she was spotted cozy in paris with lucas bravo who is from emily in paris yeah gabrielle the chef are people like dying over this no aren't they dying over Gabrielle? So he is very much, I feel like the big,

you know how every Michael Patrick King show

has like an Aiden and a big,

a Josh and a Charles, a Gabrielle.

And what's the other guy's name?

I have stopped watching the show.

I feel like his name is Alvin.

It's not Alvin.

I'm telling you.

I don't think it's Alvin.

Or his name is Alvin in real life.

Hold on, Emily.

Now I need to know.

Alfie.

Okay.

I was close.

It's so different.

And so for me, when I saw this picture of Luca Brava, Luca Brazzi, and Shailene, my

first thought was, wow, he's much more handsome in the show.

Not to be rude. Second of all, I guessy and shailene are never getting back together but i just want to say this actually bodes well for them because he looks just like aaron when like i know like you probably don't think like oh that guy from emily in paris the chef looks like aaron rogers but in this picture maybe even i just he looks like aaron and that's like tmz's headline like she's with aaron lookalike.
The funny thing about Shailene is like she's this otherworldly type of queen.

Right.

You know, she gave up all of her material items.

She like doesn't wear shoes.

She probably doesn't wear deodorant either.

But she like won't give up like the star.

You know, like a girl like that you think would be dating, you know, kind of what Lana Del Rey did.

She married like a crocodile hunter.

And you think Shailene Woodley would date like, you know, a professional hiker or something yeah like a marine biologist right her vice is like famous hot men and she's not giving she's not giving it up even though she's given up all her other worldly items and I kind of love that about her yeah but maybe she like tells herself that she's kind of with men even though they're heartthro. I don't know anything about Lucas, but like Aaron.
There's really not a lot to know. Aaron was also of that elk of like, you know, ayahuasca living on the earth.
Yeah, but they're both still a part of like the corporate Hollywood evil greedy machine. But like, it's probably nice for her that she had someone that she could like relate to.
Now she hasn't taken it all the way of course. Yeah.
But I feel like she does sort of seek out people who are naturalists such as herself. Yeah.
But if she was a true naturalist like she'd be dating a camp counselor. You know what I mean? Of course.
But maybe she's not true. You know maybe you could just be like hack something.
Some of us are just not true. And that's fine.
Yeah, but like you could be like a little bit something or even a lot of it, but not all the way. Yeah.
Maybe she's just a little bit natural. I'm a little bit natural.
And also maybe like that's where she'll end up. Maybe she's on that journey to end up.
Right, right. Maybe that's her true love.
As long as you're ascending, not descending in your naturalism. Is a hiking tour guide.
You think Shailene Woodley takes Advil? No. I don't think Aaron Rodgers takes Advil.
I mean, he gets injured. I know.
You need to. I don't know.
I just feel like he goes and runs on a treadmill underwater instead. That's funny to me when people won will take Advil, but they'll take ayahuasca.
Like, OK, pop off. No, that I understand that sort of.
It's like of the earth. I guess.
I don't know. But I don't know.
I'm not interested in like, do they take Advil? I feel like Advil also low key doesn't work. Like, do you take Xanax? Advil definitely works.
I can tell you as somebody who's been dependent big for advil 1000 of course who comes to mind devin from love is blind a torn Achilles is too big for advil did you see that devin from love is blind did actually um comment on the ibuprofen abuse being like no no you guys by the way no i didn't see that he was like you guys misunderstood and i was like oh okay thank god and then he explained it and it was like oh no we understood what you just said is exactly what we thought okay but what did he think you abuse you abused advil i think he thought people thought he was like getting crunk on advil no we never thought that because we know you can't um we just thought that like you were using advil as like a crutch for your pain instead of, you know, like fixing it. And he's like, yeah, that's what I was doing.
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So Erica Jane and Bo's were on Watch What Happens Live last night and they shaded Garcelle for quitting Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after the explosive reunion. So by the way, like we reported Garcelle leaving yesterday and we were like, why? Turns out like everyone hates Garcelle.
Not one of them liked or commented on her announcement of her leaving except for jennifer tilly um we got the trailer for the reunion she like storms off so clearly something happened and i just want to say like we called it yesterday like that video was lacking a lot something yeah reason dead tear like okay that's all really nice why are you leaving and now we know more so we saw the trailer for the reunion where it seems like now that there's this bragus between her and sutton that she's kind of on an island to the ground yeah because the reason for the bragus with sutton is because sutton wants to be a part of the larger group more and you know starting with kyle and so then when if she's successful in that that kind of leaves like garcella on this hater island alone and it seems it does it seems like that's where she is she ends up the reunion and i also think like in her confessionals this season garcella's always shady but she was pretty shady so she has a lot to answer for at the reunion like just a lot of like comments and stuff so i imagine she had a hard time she storms off she says fuck you all sutton doesn't have her back she did not take a cast photo they said and on watch what happens live and they knew she was gonna quit after that and they are they so he asked like what are your thoughts on garcelle quitting they both like just sort of smirked and like wouldn't say anything and he's like you guys have no thoughts on it neither of you and after erica urged boz to say something boz said look i'm disappointed that she's departing after the reunion i wish she would have stuck around to work out another season then erica said that she knew garcelle would quit the show after she stormed off the reunion and refused to take the cast photo.

Well, the thing is, is actually about Garcelle, whereas there's a couple of like dynamics at play.

I actually do agree with her when it comes to Sutton.

Like Sutton is such a loser for like not wanting to give up these women who don't like her.

They don't have a good relationship and really aren't there for her in a in the way that Garcelle shows up really meaningfully. No.
As a friend for Sutton. So she's like totally justified when it comes to Sutton.
But I do wish she didn't let herself get so alienated from the other couch because she needed more support. And she didn't get it because she planted all of her flags in Sutton.
And Sutton was like a terrible friend and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not friends anymore she could have maintained decent friendships with other people by not always having Sutton's back like she could have had a friendship ish with Erica and Kyle and not let Sutton's fights become her own because then when Sutton solves those issues like Garcelle is still is left with the anger they're alone yeah and I also yeah it was so interesting the whole time they're like kyle doesn't have sutton's back like sutton has kyle's back and they're all like talking about this how kyle's not a good friend to sutton and i'm thinking like yeah kyle doesn't have sutton's back that's not what a friend does and then kyle very reasonably explains why to her finally and she's like why the fuck would i have her back like i don't agree with what she's saying in these instances she literally drilled in on me last season like why and they're like because she really cares about you Kyle's like that's not my fucking problem like it's actually really funny to hear it from Kyle's like wait she's upset about me like why get over it the only good point that Sutton made on last night's episode was that because what everyone's saying about her is true I don't think it was like this this coordinated attack it's just like they all came to the realization of the truth together. Like, I don't think it was a big deal, but she's like, it is annoying.
Like, and she did say it like this way. She said it in a dumber way, but her point was valid in that like Erica can't let go of the interrogation of the LA Times article.
And she's right. Like that's her trauma.
That's her truth, whatever. But Sutton was not the only one at the time who was like asking questions.
She was the most direct. She was kind of the face of the movement, but Kyle and a little bit to read.
We're like, you know, under the surface. And then of course the conversation with the husbands.
So I think they've worked it out, but like she holds almost no resentment to Kyle and Dorit and all of it on sudden. And that's not a hundred percent fair.
Agreed. As much as I'm an Erica apologist now, it's crazy to think that all of that could have happened with Erica and it wasn't going to be mentioned or people were going to weren't going to ask questions so I feel like the way that Kyle and Dorit like ask questions didn't push her too hard didn't get her to a place where she would have to say something that might violate legal things Sutton did that though like that's what a friend would do who also needs to do their job right the idea that no one's going to going to talk about it is crazy.
It was the biggest story in the country. It's a crazy thing that happened.
For a while, it was not clear if Erica knew about any of this. So you do have to kind of get to the bottom of it.
The way that Sutton went about it, like never letting Erica breathe was completely different. Yeah.
And not what like a friend does. No, that's what an enemy does.
Not even a passerby. That's an enemy that just like can't give you one pleasant meal without bringing it up.
And I understand. Like at the time she was asking a lot of questions at which people wanted to know.
But if you care more about your relationship with Erica than you do care about pleasing the viewers. Relationship with the fans.
Right. Then you might have backed off a little bit.
Now, did you have any idea that last night's episode was the finale? I did because they said this season on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I had no idea.
They're on the beach dancing and then it says, Durant and Piquet. What? I was shocked.
I don't remember a time in recent history where they've ended on a trip. Yeah, but I'm ready.
I'm even this trip was just a regurgitation of the fights of the season there's nothing here we need a reunion we need Coombs afresh so I'm excited for the reunion next week and I'm ready to like get up to speed on what's been going on in the ladies lives same the one month later Tom Girardi update was not necessary um I literally don't care like he's I think we were on break that week because it was like late August. So I think that was like the one summer week that we took off.
Because I was like, did we even talk about this? It's just like a non, we know he's guilty. Okay, fine.
He's legally guilty now. He's like a decrepit old man in a nursing home.
He has not one dollar to his name. Like it's sort of like, like who cares? Like I didn't think it was worth picking the cameras up again.
And I feel like it was sort of emblematic of the entire season where nothing really happened. They're making a lot of mountains out of molehills.
And that's exactly what that whole one month later thing was for me. Yeah.
Now, I love to see my two queens, Erica and Bo's, being besties on Watch Reppens Live. I couldn't love Bo's more if I tried.
I just think she's such a great addition. And I loved that she got everybody to dress up in last night's episode.
Like everybody went full balls to the wall for the carnival theme. Like old, young.
I mean these women look amazing. It's insane.
They're in their 50s and 60s. Like it's fucking crazy.
They looked so great. It was so fun.
She really planned a good trip. I think she's a great housewife.
I'm 100% sure she'd be asked back. I don't see why she wouldn't be um and so that was a great addition on Bravo's part yeah no she's been great and the trip looked fun we'll see what happens who they replaced Garcelle with but it's really it's crazy that Garcelle left because of alienation and not just oh you know in my son's high school year yeah and it does make her look a little silly that she dropped it like right before the trailer because it's like you like clearly lied you know yeah it makes her look

silly yeah but it is I think like a cautionary tale for women who go on the show because a lot

of times people do find success in being like a mouthpiece and being like a sidekick almost not a

sidekick a part of a dynamic duo and when your whole personality is your friendship it's very

Danielle from Southern Summer House like you're literally Lindsay's mouthpiece and you're known

for fighting Lindsay's battles.

And it's like, well,

Thank you. almost not a sidekick, a part of a dynamic duo.
And when your whole personality is your friendship, it's very Danielle from Summer House. Like you're literally Lindsay's mouthpiece and you're known for fighting Lindsay's battles.
And it's like, well, where did that get you? You're not on the show anymore. You need to really establish an identity outside of like that one friendship and make meaningful connections with other women.
Yeah, but I just feel like it didn't have to be this way for Garcelle whatsoever. Like, I mean, Danielle is like, not even apples to apples because Garcelle has like a huge personality she has a lot of strong opinions like she's not just like mimicking what Sutton says you know like yeah she can fend for herself so I don't know why this season she really just pigeon-toed herself into being like Sutton's backup yeah it was a bad call and didn't like pursue relationships with it wouldn't have been too late if she had done it this season no not at all she could have like struck up a friendship with bows and maybe not to read because like i think she she actually fucking hates to dislikes like yeah truly those two dis like actually more than sutton and dorit dislike each other like dorit and garcelle like oil and water um and i know i said this yesterday oh sorry like she could have worked on her friendship with 1000 through sutton and it was so crazy because sutton like the way that she was framing everything and they actually showed i mean there was too much flashback footage it's like we we just all saw this but that editor really has it out for sutton well they said like they were showing how everyone attacks sutton they were showing all all those different.
They showed nine frames of people attacking Sutton.

And then they also showed nine frames of Sutton attacking other women.

And the things that Sutton is saying is so much worse than the things that the other women are saying.

Like it's crazy that Sutton really sees herself as a victim when it's like, no, you give it right to them. Like you start so much shit.

I know.

And that's why I feel what I said yesterday and I felt it even more on last night's episode.

It's like Sutton is the lightning rod of this group, right? She's on the outs and she says the crazy things. And there's always somebody like that.
And they frustrate you and they're annoying, but they make the show good. And I just feel like she's really not a worthy, like, she's not a good lightning rod.
No. She's weak.
She cries. She doesn't, like, I feel like we're going to continue on with this Sutton storyline for the next.
Because it's like, it is the storyline. And I just, I don't find her interesting.
I'm actually really ready for her to leave. She's like the opposite of Lisa Rinna, where it's like, you could say what you want now about Lisa Rinna.
But, like, she was interesting. No, she was tough.
And she was wild. Like, and she had a backbone.
Like, Sutton is just here one day, there the next. It's boring.
And it's just not, she's not a good. Yeah.
Lisa also though, like with some, it just felt like she would say anything to. Yes.
There was a point where she was really nuts. Yeah.
So that wasn't always the greatest, but we'll see what happens at the reunion now that everyone has said, seen what everyone else has said and what's been going on all season. I liked that Erica responded on Watch What Happens Live because Garcelle, you're right, has been like particularly shady

in all of her confessionals this season.

And she said something really fucking nasty

last night out of nowhere.

Like in her confessionals,

she was talking about Erica.

She's like, well, you know, I married for love.

She married for money.

Okay, first of all,

we weren't even talking about marriage.

Like, I don't know why objection relevance.

And Andy asked if Erica wanted to respond to that.

And she was like, yeah,

we both married like ugly old white men and we both got cheated on so at least I had the money. It was a good response because I also thought it was a weird thing for Garcelle to say it would have been made more sense if she was still married to that person.
Like, look, you married for love and look what you got, a beautiful relationship. You didn't get anything, you got cheated on.
So why are you bragging about that? It was a great response. It was a great response.
That is really, really funny. And then next we get the reunion.
Like they talk obviously about the Sutton wallet comment. And then Jareed is like to Sutton, like you act like you live like the Queen of Sheba.
You live off a main road. And you know what? We brought that up and I'm glad somebody did.
Now there are a lot of rumors like joreen hasn't been able to pay her glam people for like them doing her makeup for the reunion so it is the pot calling the kettle black but somebody needed to say it i don't know she could get on cameo and pay off her glam bill and she should i'd pay for one yeah sister jacks love sourdough and bruno And I just want to say,

we are tracking for an Asafi,

so just keeping that in mind.

Oh yeah, and I'm good to go.

That's all from us.

Tomorrow, Jax and I are going to be in person

in our new Paris G studio.

And we've got a big weekend of things.

Well, not, we have big latter half things.

Jax is coming to town.

We'll be recording in person.

We are recording actually a guest interview.

You know we don't really do guest interviews,

but an opportunity came across our desk.

And it's not Nikki Blonsky.

Oh, thank you so much for reminding me.

They passed.

Nikki Blonsky passed.

They're like her team passed.

I'm like, okay, so her.

She responded, no.

She's so wrong for that.

She would have an amazing time.

She would.

And also it's really not smart to alienate two of your biggest fans. You know? Like OG fans.
No. Not at all.
Who are like getting you more cameos. Who are saying to up your price.
Yeah. Who are championing you long before everyone else started.
Yeah. And everybody is kind of laughing at her right now.
We are laughing with her. 100%.
Or we were up until her passing on our show.

Not cool, Mickey.

So we've got a photo shoot.

So we've got the next big thing.

Yeah. Yeah, right.

We could get Mickey Blonsky, so we got, you're gonna

see. You guys are really gonna be shocked.

The same but different. Very,

very, very similar.

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