LET'S ENJOY IT!!!!: Thursday, March 20th, 2025

I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday.
That just kind of, you know, crept up on us. Crept up on us, yes.
Hey, Jax, how you doing? I am doing good. I'm doing spread thin is how I'm doing.
I feel like I just like can't catch up with myself. Do you know what I mean? You ever feel just so behind on things? I feel behind feel behind on things no a really annoying personality trait of mine is like I don't leave stones unturned do you know what I mean like if something comes in I'm getting it done that day they call me the sweeper you know like it's it's not a perfect system but I don't relate to that particular feeling what are you feeling you know left behind on well I just feel like ever since this weekend like I'm just constantly trying to like catch up with work and like just cleaning putting putting my clothes away, just like a million things.
Then something else comes up and I keep like having false starts on all these sourdough loaves. Like I just, I don't even have the time to do my sourdough.
That's how you know. That's how you know.
That you're really behind. That I don't have two hours in my house where I'm not sleeping, where I can preheat the oven and bake the bread.
I have not made a loaf. I'm attempting to make one today.
But like that's the real marker. Are you trying to make a loaf because you have company? Yes.
Because I have company. Shannon's coming.
I have to have a fresh loaf for her. Like that's disgusting if I don't.
You better get to work. Where Shannon's staying? Upstairs or downstairs? Right now my loaf is.
I'm going to say it. My loaf is retarding in the fridge.
I can't believe you just said that. That's literally what it's doing.
That's a technical word. I know.
I. Are you going to be okay? If your loaf is retarding, your loaf is retarding.
Like, who are we to deny that? My loaf's experience. Right.
Your loaf's lived experience. My loaf is retarding in the fridge when i'm done okay no when i'm done here i will preheat my oven and i will have it ready for and what does that mean cooling down yeah so like basically the bread keeps proofing and you want it to proof like 10 12 hours but then you want it to stop proofing immediately, immediately.
So you want to slow down slash retard the proofing process. It's like a flame retardant, right? Yeah.
That puts out a flame. Yeah.
It immediately stops the. Yeah.
So we are stopping the proofing. And when it gets cold, then it no longer shall proof and it won't get overproofed.
And then it can be ready baking wow okay like not the baking community with the slurs you wouldn't expect it from them that's the thing about language you know yeah that is the thing about language like things mean like not everything has changed that has kept up with the times no and also like that's how like in the uk if you're talking about a cigarette some people reference it as a f slur what's wait which word cigarette okay what do they call it an f slur fuck yeah jackie i'm not gonna say fuck you know which word i'm talking about no. For the queer community.
No, I don't know. And so when people say it, it's a little bit old school, but still, like it's a perfectly, I think, acceptable way to reference a cigarette in London.
Well, you know what? I'll have to ask James. Yes, you will.
My British. Hey, mate, you gotta.
My British correspondent. Yeah.
British camper. Well, thank you for telling us about the...
Retardation in my fridge. Stop! Stop it! I get a free pass.
Sorry. No, it's not even a free pass.
You're talking about bread. I'm talking...
I'm literally stating facts. I'm sorry.
Jackie, the thing is, you've done nothing wrong. Can we please change the subject? We can good news we have a business to run all of that is happening because shannon is coming and i'm so excited to see my girl she's performing tonight at the dania beach improv i'm gonna go catch a show like sophisticated lady that i am and i'm very excited for our evening and our slumber party no that's really fun which room is Which room is she staying in? Upstairs or downstairs? She's staying upstairs.
Last time she stayed upstairs too. And that was before it was Pardy.
Just, you know, a little bit of separation. Because the guest room downstairs while Pardy, like you're very much in my family.
You're one of my children. Yeah, which is why I like it.
I'll come give you a bottle in the night. Literally.
She might accidentally come in and breastfeed you. Yeah, exactly.
So i kind of did something crazy last night oh what you did i had a piece of cake from chipriani which these days is like not that crazy because i'm doing it all the time so you had your dinner yeah i also had like a full meal before that but like i went to that specific restaurant because did you have chipriani meal yeah meal? Yeah. Okay, good.
What'd you have? A pasta. Pomodoro? A la vodka.
A la vodka. Yeah.
So I was just like really embracing the belly. You know, like I was like, this is what pregnant women do.
Baby wanted penne a la vodka. That's like my new favorite thing to say.
Baby needs a bad. Like, just to sort of not take responsibility for any of my actions.
I'm like, in a bad mood get the fuck out of like you know I'm just constantly kind of blaming baby for things I think that's great baby has been in like kind of a rough mood these last couple of days but we feel like baby's coming out of it what's he feeling like just like irritated annoyed uncomfortable oh yeah oh okay sorry baby yeah no and it's it's baby it's Also, those f Yeah. Oh, okay.
Sorry, baby.

Yeah, no.

And it's baby.

It's not me.

Also, those farts that I was making, it's baby.

It's not me.

Well, that's true.

I actually refuse to take responsibility for the farts that I've been making.

Like, they are so.

You've known, you've been you your whole life and you never made those farts.

What's the difference now?

Baby.

Correct.

What is like the sort of unknown factor here?

Baby.

The baby.

I refuse. That's why I'll like fart out loud.
It wasn't me. It wasn't me.
I understand. Like I just, I feel like I'm at an age and a level of maturity where I can take responsibility for my own actions.
My farts are not mine. My body's not my own.
I understand. You know what I was thinking about the other day? Because I was like thinking about your pregnancy and like just how pregnancy is so, so hard.
Like seriously. I think about that all the time.
Right. Could you imagine being a surrogate? Like just doing the pregnancy and not even getting like the bundle of joy? How much would someone have to pay you? Seriously.
Well, so the thing is about surrogates, like what they say is that they're very special people and they do it because they feel sort of called to help others.

And so while I could never be that selfless to a stranger, let's say in a random world, like I'm done having kids and I still have like a functional uterus and you need a surrogate. Like, yeah, I would do it.
You really would. Yeah, I would.
I would. I would do it for any of my sisters.
And that's literally it. That's really big of you.
You wouldn't do it for me. I mean, I'd like to say that I would.
Let's say circumstances like art, like you're done having children. Like you got everything you wanted.
Like in the middle of my child rearing journey. No, I'm not taking a break for you.
But let's say I happen to be like a 37 year old with a popping pussy, for lack of a better word. Yeah, I would do it for you.
That's really sweet. I guess actually, I would need a couple more details.
I just don't think that you would. Do you not have any children in this hypothetical scenario?

If you didn't have any children,

if you wanted a fourth,

sorry, you're going to have to live with your three.

But if you didn't have any

and it was your one opportunity,

yeah, I would do it.

Okay, that's really sweet of you.

And I'm not hearing any reciprocation.

Well, you know, I'm high risk,

so I don't know that I could just be

doing bonuses.

Oh, she's hiding behind the high risk.

Doing bonuses. She's hiding behind the high risk.
So I don't know that I could just be. Oh, she's hiding behind the high risk.
Doing bonuses.

She's hiding behind the high risk.

Okay, Julie noted.

Yeah, I've got, you know, I've got stuff.

No, but being a surrogate, like I've never met like a person like in my like a friend or anything who does surrogacy.

So I just imagine that they're wonderful people who are extremely different than me. Like, can't even imagine that's a good way of thinking about it now i know there's also a financial component and so i'm trying to think of like what enough money for me like would be to do it and i don't know and you know this is like the tough thing about pregnancy like you don't want to complain you're so grateful and you are but it's actually the definition of holding space for two truths like two things can be true at once like this is genuinely like such a miserable experience but i am so eternally grateful and blessed for this miracle happening and i'm so joyful about it you know and i feel like you can't say one without the other you know you don't want to glorify it it's a miracle yeah but you also you don't want to only like negative queen.
No, you're actually that's the only time it's really acceptable to hold space for two truths in a serious, not ironic way. OK, I support that.
I support that. Well, thanks.
Good to know that you would do it for me. Yeah.
Any of my sisters. That's so beautiful, Claudia.
Except now like that you and Olivia like have kids. I don't really feel like't feel like we deserve it.
Not that you deserve it, but I don't think that I would be willing to do it. You've experienced the joys of motherhood.
You're set. But let's say, God forbid, God forbid, a million times, like Margo needed a surrogate and she had never had kids yet.
Yeah, I would do it for her. Yeah, I guess we all would.
She just better start responding to my texts more you know that's all I ask in return yeah she better take me to Tortuga correct then we can talk did you watch Summer House I did watch Summer House I'm excited to talk about our actually our fifth and final story will lead into Summer House because there's a lot to talk about um great yes I also watched Watch Robbins Live and I saw a bunch of clips from the after show which is like making rounds and i'll tell you about it okay um what was what was andy's mood last night like run for cover oh no obviously somebody gave him like a slap on the wrist he was joyful beyond like pretending so hard to care about whatever sierra and amanda were saying and like not that you have to pretend but it wasn't like a crazy episode or anything he was just like and how does that feel no and they're not like the most like tea spilling like no of the especially of that cast yeah they're pretty cool and collected and he was like he opened the show he's like i'm having a drink tonight it's been a long day do you think our words reached him no but i think that um like production is like i think his producers and his team are like aware of what gets said or even just like they watched and were like, Andy, maybe you should be like a little more welcoming to the clubhouse tomorrow night. I don't think they necessarily heard us, but I can't imagine because you sent me a clip where Andy was so clearly hating Leslie Bibb and Garcelle.
Yeah, but the thing is, I sent you the clip. The clip was, they just were, it was a funny moment between Leslie Bibb and Garcelle arguing about Sutton and Doreen.
And that's what the person who posted it wanted to highlight and i was like claudia watch this clip because you will see andy being a curmudgeon curmudgeon so i don't know if it was like i don't think it was our direct words but i think that sentiment was pretty obvious like when i watched that clip he would want it to be anywhere else but that chair yeah and that's just one clip that wasn't even meaning to highlight that right so um he was in a fabulous mood i think our words reached someone he was in a great mood sure he was sure two things um now is it a story about the handwritten note megan markle sent to it is okay because i like kind of need to talk it. I was like ready to not make it a story because I'm very sensitive now that I don't want to overdo it.
However, like it's Thursday, which has historically been the worst day for stories. Not today though.
I actually like our stories and it's really so crazy and we need to talk about it. No, and I actually have a lot of follow-up questions about the whole saga.
So I'm really glad we are talking about it. Yeah, so I guess like instead of talking about what we're going to talk about, we could talk about the things that we say that we're going to talk about in the Fast Five stories that you need to know.
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Parch. Like I'm wearing Ben's double extra large sweater today.
That's sort of where I'm at. And I'm actually really excited.
I think we both had the same memo today. Just like cozy vibes.
And do you know how hard it was to not wear some of the new merch? Jackie and I, not to be like annoying. We have new merch coming out.
I think in like, we'll tell you all about it. Like a week and a half.
No, like two weeks. So it's like a little early to start promoting it.
But let me tell you, it's like the only only thing that fits me right now it's the only things that i want to wear because i like sized up when i ordered the samples and the pile of clothes just stares at me every day i always have that experience every time we get new merch and that's why i was like i'm good i had this feeling last time let me go wear my old merch that i was desperate to wear and to be honest it solved the problem no but the new stuff is like really pleading and pastel like that's just what i wanted to wear but i just want to say like it's gonna look so good in our new studio shout out to this set i love this set that set that we dropped is so amazing but let me tell you when we dropped it i've never been more thin in my whole life i have the whole set in a medium am i okay i think i was pp so this is a large yeah i didn you know, I got really confident. When you become a size medium after never having been even close your whole life, you kind of become obsessed with the fact that you're a size medium because you want to know what medium says.
It says I'm regular. I'm average.
You know, I'm not skinny. I'm not fat.
I'm just medium. Just like everyone else.
There's nothing embarrassing. There's no, like, subtext of a size medium.
Do you know what I mean? You're not too small. It it's goldilocks and when you become a size medium which is really what i was before ozempic like i would say i cheated between like a size four and a six six um five you kind of become like obsessed with it you know and so i really kind of went overboard everything in my closet is a size medium and let me tell tell you, I'm not a medium-sized girl anymore.

And I kind of like was barely a medium when I was a medium, you know.

I probably should have sized up to a large.

But I'm so obsessed with the connotations of the sizing.

And I haven't opened my closet in weeks.

Yeah.

I just have a pile of sweatshirts that I pull from every day

and my different maternity pants from Amazon, from Skims. Yeah, I mean, listen, it's hard.
Make it easier. That's all that needs to be said.
It's hard. It is.
It's really hard. Well, here's our first story.
Actually, someone who recently experienced no longer being a medium, Sia files for divorce from her husband, Dan Bernard, after two years of maverige, while also revealing that they had a child together 11 months ago and she wasn't a medium Sia has filed oh okay I was like I'm not understanding the medium connection because she had a baby so when she was pregnant she wasn't a medium there you go got it okay so you're calling a pregnant woman fat got it I'm calling a pregnant woman pregnant how does that work for you she wants to cancel me so bad today and i won't let it yeah i do i do i'm gonna catch you yeah just like i should i'll get you good sia has filed for divorce from her husband of two years dan bernard the petition obtained by page six also revealed the estranged couple welcomed a baby named Somersault Wonder. The Australian pop star who legally married Dan in December 2022 cited irreconcilable differences as the reason for the split and listed the date of separation as March 18th, 2025.
Okay, so yesterday, cool. They were last seen out, it's usually like months ago.
Yeah, right. So this is like just getting started.
They were last seen out together in February of this month. Oh, so that's like something happened.
Yeah. Meanwhile, Somersault was born on March 27th, 2024, meaning the child is about to be one.
Now, let me tell you something very interesting about this whole saga. I really like Sia.
She's like one of my favorite singers. I think she's enormously talented.
I love her connection to the Kardashians. Their friendship is like really sweet.
She's a part of so much like pop culture lore, her singing at Kathy Griffin's dining room table. Having said that, her personal life is so uninteresting to me.
Like, I don't know why. She's just like in this tier of celebrity who I really care about and like, exclusively in a professional sense.
Do you know what I mean she's also like made it so that we she doesn't have a titillating personal life she doesn't share a lot like right condition to not really care or ask questions I just I actually also have felt like at times where she could literally be a whole nother person she could like you know go to school with you and you wouldn't even know because she's Sia and then she's regular we might know because we're like sick in the head but the average american yeah like you might not even realize that you're next to sia at drop off right which is really nice for her but then yes and somersault yeah now like we're conditioned to just think she's regular and uninteresting. If you could,

when we're done with the show,

go ask your kids if they like the name Bowie or the name Somersault better. Cause it's really starting to grow on me as well.
Somersault is. Yeah.
It's beautiful. It's, it's like a crazy celebrity name.
Sure. And what would you expect from Sia? I know, but they're going to call her summer, which is not a crazy name.
Yeah, it's not the craziest, I'll say. Let me ask you a question.
Is it Summer, first name, middle name Salt? Or first name Summer Salt? First name Summer Salt, like gymnastics. It's not even spelled like summer, like the season.
Right, so I guess it is technically like naming your kid Cartwheel. Yeah.
Except that the, like the first half of Somersault is actually a pretty

name. Sheena Marie Shea.
Summer.

Summer Moon and Summer Salt.

Beautiful. You could have twins.

I like that. Moon and

Salt. If I have twins, I'll probably

name them Harry and Larry. Oh,

that's good. Are you okay?

I just like spilled coffee, which is

so weird. I drink coffee every day on the show.

There's something like really embarrassing

and I'm not saying you should be embarrassed, but I have felt this way, where like you're just trying to drink like a normal beverage and like, I don't know, something with your lip and it all comes like dribbling down your chin, neck and onto your shirt. Like, I don't know what it is about that experience.
It's like so humiliating. I don't know.
I just feel like I'm malfunctioning. Yeah.
Like I know how to drink coffee. I use the same mug every day.
Nothing about that was new. It's a very common basic human experience.
Like we teach our kids to do it when they're just, you know, two years old. Sort of.
Like they have a sippy cup. But yeah.
Right. But like it's something we learn from a very young age.
Yeah. So.
It's kind of like I think akin, not as bad to like tripping or falling in public.

You know,

I don't,

I don't feel that way.

I just feel very inconvenienced.

Yeah.

When you like stain your shirt.

I like,

maybe there's a chip in your mug.

No,

there's not.

I don't know.

Maybe it's Bruno.

Oh,

Bruno's here.

You guys,

if you're listening as a podcast,

you're missing out.

I'm sure they can hear him snoring.

Brody. The sweet sounds.
What's Bruno's middle name? Brunus. Bruno Moon? Bruno Sweets.
Bruno Sweets. Bruno Sweets Wine Rib.
I like that. I like that.
Wine Rib. Of course.
B-Sow. B-Sow, I like that.
So for Sia, this isn't a celebrity I think needs to be added to our list again her personal live like it doesn't interest me yeah I didn't even realize she was like in a marriage me neither I know that she like has children I think she's also adopted oh yeah some children yeah so I yeah I feel like you know she's not conventional in terms of like i don't now need to see her like marry someone else like i feel like no she's whole you know you can't put sienna box no you cannot her hair wouldn't fit you cannot you cannot are you ready for our next story as previously discussed megan markle is clapping back at a scared podcaster with a cheeky handwritten note. So.
OK, so was it a clap back? Cojers? I don't know what it was. So Amanda Hirsch, not skinny, but not fat, had posted on her Instagram the trailer of Withluck Meghan.
When it came out a couple of weeks ago. And she said, I'm scared for Meghan, which.
That was like that was her caption. Yeah.
And she has since like explained what she was scared about, but that's all she said. And it can be interpreted so many ways.
Really? Because I feel like, to be clear, the way Amanda has recently explained the caption is how I understood it initially. Like, yeah.
And by the way, Amanda was right. Like, look what happened after the show.
Everybody's accusing her of like stealing from pictures. She was scared for Megan for what the response would be from this show.
show right I don't know how else you could have interpreted that like I thought that was very clear I don't know like maybe like I'm like someone's like forcing her to do this I'm scared for her I don't know I think if you're like a reasonable critical thinker like you understood it the the way it was meant to be understood it wasn't I just want to say I think it's a little vague which is why it's even more surprising that Megan responded to it because like how did she know what she was responding to in no way did I think it was shady no but it wasn't like heaping praise you wouldn't be scared for someone if they were doing something amazing you want to be scared of their responses no but I think it's like I think it had nothing to do with what Meghan was doing. It's just like the Meghan of it all.
Like, and her premonition came true. Like, that's what's, I thought it was kind of on the money.
Like, I don't understand. It was a premonition, like, based on what she was seeing.
Like, it's not like everything else that Meghan has done before this. No one has been really like, like when the Oprah trailer, he wouldn't post like, I'm scared.
If you said I'm scared for Meghan, you wouldn't be about the reception and be like, oh, is for Megan you wouldn't be about the reception be like oh yeah but the culture has shifted right the culture has shifted right um so anyways she wrote a handwritten letter to Amanda that Amanda shared on her Instagram saying dear Amanda I heard you were feeling scared don't be this is the fun part let's enjoy it okay and so I'm also confused yeah I'm also confused about what megan's letter says like to me is she is she did she take amanda's caption as like shade and this is her like kind of giving the knife back a little bit she took amanda's caption as shade like this is her like i do think so this is not friendly entire i'm shocked i didn't think Amanda's thing was rude. This is not clapping back.
I do think so. This is not friendly.
I'm shocked.

I didn't think Amanda's thing was rude.

This is not entirely friendly.

And of everything that everyone says about Meghan,

in even plainer text,

that she would respond to this vague take,

not even a take, just a comment, like a nothing,

that she would sit down, get out her pen

and her monogram stationary, and what, send a letter by get amanda's address right and send her a letter is such a weird look for megan i actually agree i also could see so the way you're sort of narrating it as like this was a shady comment and then the letter was a clap back I could see that being the reality but I also could see the reality of like Amanda's comment was completely harmless like I did not think it was shady almost like kind of defensive of Megan you know like I'm scared for Megan what people are going to do to her and then Megan's response is like her way of being like fun and light-hearted like oh what everyone says about me? Like, I actually do not. I know all of this happened in English.
I understand that. This is my native tongue.
I have no idea what's going on. Claudia, this is the fun part.
Let's enjoy it. That's a threat.
Do you think so? This is a threatening letter from an enemy. Oh, my God.
It might as well have been written in blood. It might as well have been.
Like this is a threat. And it's just so crazy that like, this is the only letter we've seen of this sort of thing of her like responding to internet takes fodder.
This is the only response we've ever really seen from her. She doesn't clap back at like media or shady headlines or shady bloggers like this is the first time she's literally ever seemingly like defending herself like this is something that she could have if she like responded commented commented on what amanda wrote and like said this like that okay okay we've got a match but to write the letter do you think when amanda got the letter she had no idea what the fuck megan was referencing yeah because it was such a blip it's such a random it's not like it's her instagram bio like hi i'm amanda and i'm scared for i'm scared for megan yeah like when your content creator amanda like posts a lot does a podcast like she probably was like wait what is this in reference to and then amanda as she's like talking about it she said beyond shook beyond shook, beyond spiraling.
Did I smell the paper? Yes. Do I want my own monogram? Yes.
Am I absolutely flabbergasted and obsessed? Fuck yes. At Megan, you have a fan for life.
So I'm sure Amanda's like shitting her pants being like, oh my God, she thinks I'm a hater. I honestly do not think Amanda's initial post had any hater energy about it.
But of course now like that we've seen the, the picture of the letter, like the letter has become the story and everybody's like reading it. And I feel like when we were talking about with love, Megan, one of the things we talked about was her handwriting and how like, was it a stunt double? And it turns out that no, Megan actually has a huge background in calligraphy.
Like before her whole famous princess life, she just like took up calligraphy as a hobby, which would have been a great thing to highlight in your show about like arts and crafts, first of all. So to see the calligraphy in action was very interesting.
And then of course, everybody's zooming in on the stationery, the letterhead, the date, like everything. I just feel like if she wanted to like send a letter to Amanda to sort of like kill her with kindness, right? Because's that's that is a way of you know shutting someone up like to be the bigger like to send a letter and then they know that you've seen what you what they said and like all of a sudden your tail between your legs i feel like there's so many different things she could have said to accomplish that and this is a very threatening letter and the fact that amanda is like you know totally disarmed it's like love you forever yeah yeah forever a fan forever a life she's scared for life I need people to sound off in the comments because I'm just like I am not thoroughly convinced that Amanda's initial post was shady or that the letter was shady like I I am not sure how to receive this and maybe you're right I'm just I I haven't I don't know I'm not haven't even read what other people have said.
Me neither. Let's game it out where it's not shady.
Let's talk it through. Right.
Okay. So Amanda posts this thing, like I'm scared for Megan, you know, like people are going to tear her up.
Everything she does gets like eaten alive, yada, yada. And like, it's all, it's all like in jest, but also at, at its core, like protecting and fearful for Megan.
Yeah. That's not a bad thing to be fearful megan sees that and she kind of wants to rise above like yeah i know what everybody says about me but we're having fun like here like here's a letter i actually don't know like i can't even begin to understand because this is so crazy i just feel like if you're going to support someone like yes amongst other things you could worry how it will be received it will be received for them.
Yes. It's definitely something.
When people care about you, that's something they do. But that's not the first and only thing you say.
This looks amazing. Megan's stepping into her truth.
I worry about this. You know, there are so many other things.
So her comment was shady. You really think so? It wasn't.
Now, I'm sure if we were to ask Amanda, she would say, especially now, like that it wasn't shady. I would say she barely thought about it.
Yeah, right. Right.
It's just. And also, here's the thing.
And this is kind of my worst nightmare. Because every time I post something on social media on any platform, I'm like, what should I caption it? Nobody fucking cares.
Like these days, especially with Reels and TikTok, like nobody's reading your caption. so the fact that like a caption made news and, you know, she just like she just wanted to post the trailer and get it up quickly because like in this line of work, you got to be first.
Yeah. She just threw some shit up on the caption.
And the caption is like what made Megan write a letter. Yeah.
No, I totally agree with that. I don't even think she gave it a second thought.
I think if you asked her. Captions are meaningless.
She might not even be able to tell us. Captions are so meaningless.
They're full of fake words. I actually, the other day, put something up and wrote a caption.
I'm like, I feel like I've written this caption before. And I actually scrolled on my own Instagram.
I was like, I don't even remember. It was like for a reel.
And I had written word for word, emoji for emoji, the same exact caption. Because captions are just like bookends like they're stupid yeah so the fact that like she probably threw some shit up on the caption like really i think we're definitely overthinking it because captions creators don't think about captions it's nobody reads them right so the fact that megan read it internalized it wrote a letter this is weeks later too because she.
That was what she was. I'm telling you, it took Amanda definitely two hours to put together the map of what Megan is talking about.
Oh, yeah. I was feeling scared.
About what? Yeah, like, what's wrong, Megan? Don't be. This is the fun part.
Let's enjoy it. Because that's saying, like, if you don't enjoy it, you won't have fun.
No, no. Here's what she's saying.
Let's enjoy it. With's saying like if you don't enjoy it you won't have fun no no here's what she's saying let's enjoy it with a gun to her head yeah yeah so i guess we'll mind what we say i just feel like amanda probably has the biggest pit ever and i want to say like you did nothing wrong i feel like she's she got had the biggest pit when she got the letter because that's the worst when you say something about someone.
Not even like a negative thing. Just you say anything and it reaches them.
Like seriously. That's my.
I hate that. Of course.
No. In this line of work you're kind of used to like talking about people at a much higher level than you like celebrities.
And it's not meant for them to hear. It's for the lay people.
It's for everyone else. So then the idea of them hearing it.
When they enter our arena it's like get out of here. No.
This isn't. Like it's about's not for you it reminds me when justin bieber came from morgan stewart for something she said on like fashion police or that is something or nightly pop excuse me and he like took the clip put it on twitter he like came for her really fucking hard it's like well it's not for you nightly pop it's not for you justin like i don't like when celebrities enter like commoner spaces.
Yeah, it's really true.

So I think when she got the letter, she probably had a pit.

But I think now she's like, it's become like such a story.

And it's like, honestly, great for Amanda.

It's like PR, like in this, in this job, you know,

when people are talking about you and your podcast and your Instagram,

it's all good.

And I think it's like, it's a good look for Amanda.

And it's not a great look for Megan.

Net, net.

I completely agree. Yeah, it's not a great look for Megan net net I completely agree right yeah it's red rum let's enjoy it Claudia you better fucking enjoy it you know it's like here's Johnny let's enjoy it maybe we'll get a letter I don't think she takes time to listen to podcasts.
No, it's true. If we clipped something we said about her, then maybe she would see it because I think she's on Instagram, but she's not listening to this long.
This Nalafi. Here's Megan.
Okay. Let's enjoy it, guys.
No, it's so crazy. Sending thoughts, prayers prayers and all my love to amanda like i actually that's my worst nightmare it really is a nightmare a waking and the thing is is we say such crazy things about people like of all the things that somebody could respond to what amanda said like what we don't even know if it was shady it's always that by the way it's always like the random thing that you said.
Yeah, because like if somebody can't respond to a fire point.

You can't respond to a fire point you can't like worry about it you know like i don't even want to know if somebody heard what i said if they want to say something i actually don't want to know no i mean i just was telling you i sent you that thing like somebody we talked about oh right right and you know what i don't even care great you listen to it and you didn't like it and you unfollowed us great and you unfollowed us great we're like once we start censoring ourselves we have a job to do we have lost it all and like I'm never gonna meet these people I don't care no that's also what's such a fabulous part of not being a guest based show yeah is that we could talk about people and never worry because one of my nightmares is I think I told you this when it happened. I think I said on the podcast is when the chicks in the office had Katy Perry.
This is so funny. They had Katy Perry on their show and like the Katy fans like went back and found like shit they had said because they recap pop culture.
Yeah, they talk about her. And when Katy had that like nun murdered for like her house or whatever, remember she was in that lawsuit.
The nun died. It was this whole real estate thing.
And they were just making funny jokes about it and never thinking of course back then that Katy Perry would be on their show. Meanwhile, cut two.
That is my worst nightmare and that's why we run with people on the show so we can continue to speak freely. It's true.
It's true. Are you ready for our next story? Three? Three? Yeah, I'm ready.
Colleen Hoover put out a weird-ass Instagram video saying she's broke as shit after a merch sale amid the It Ends With Us drama. Not only was there...
Okay, I watched the whole Instagram story set. I could tell you all about it.
Great. Please do.
I'll just share the need-to-know details. Colleen Hoover is spillingilling the diet pepsi tea right right the author revealed that all of her merch on her website has been marked down to ten dollars an item amid the ongoing it ends with a strama which was going to leave her quote broke as shit she said that's that's not what she said okay like this is so misleading so she put up five instagram stories and they were so weird that it really caught people's attention and then the thing at the end end about the sale.
So the first three stories were her, first of all, moving so slowly. I don't know if she, yeah, I don't know if I've never seen her Instagram stories before.
So I don't know if this is her usual way of talking and moving on camera. If so, it's fucking insufferable.
If not, she looked drunk being dead serious, but I don't think that she was. I think that's just like how she talks on social media.
And look at me. I talk so like I just couldn't keep up with it.
She basically was showing us she made ice cubes out of Diet Pepsi. She's like a big soda gal.
And of course, you know, watery soda when your ice and your Stanley melts. So she made and she's a Pepsi, not a Coke girl.
She made cubes out of Pepsi and was going to share it with us. And then she did this whole boring thing about putting the ice in the cup and the diet Pepsi taste testing all to be like, well, it's good.
It's good. It tastes like every other Pepsi I had.
We won't know if it worked for a few hours. I'm like, oh, riveting.
Like it was just so boring. Then that was three frames.
This last two frames were sharing that her merch has been put on sale. And it was like, people are taking it out of context because it would be like if you and I had a big sale.
I'd be like, don't, like Jackie put all the merch on sale. Don't tell anyone.
It's like a marketing technique. Do you know what I mean? So she's like, my boss just called me and was like, we put all the merch on sale for $10.
Like, I'm going to go broke with how cheap it is. It's like a marketing ploy.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, she said that's like five times cheaper than what i paid for each item which means by the end of the day today i'm going to be broke as shit because i was about to be like girl merch is not your business merch is also not your problem like you have the biggest books of all time people are taking it like far too literally wow so this is really some muckraking over here yes it's kind of like when we say you know the warehouse is so sick oh yeah the warehouse has a cough because our merch is so sick you say like you say dumb shit they were like pandemic breaks out at toast merch warehouse everyone the items are so everyone in Yeah. And like it's a marketing ploy.

It's a tactic.

And she's not broke.

I just feel like the way that she's talking, it's just like not clear that she's joshing you.

No, especially because the pace and the cadence of her voice was insufferable. I don't know if I've ever watched an Instagram story of hers.

This might have been my first time.

And I'll just say like this is why you should not seek out or follow your favorite authors on Instagram. It's never going to be what you want it to be.
And it might ruin your favorite books. 1000%.
When I first got into reading, you were the one who told me like, never look up the authors like on Goodreads. And you were so right, especially because if you're writing like sexy books, then you're like thinking about the author writing it and she's like someone's mom it's just like it's too much information so much so that when i first started reading before i got a kindle i would like flip really fast past the front cover so i didn't even catch a picture because you know they have a little author picture on the front flap you're so right we need to know less about authors bring back pen names yes what's the one daniel handler who's that lemony snicket well that was his pen name lemony snicket got it yeah his real name bring back pen names yeah especially for smutty novels yeah yeah so so colleen's not going broke from the lawsuit that she's not involved in.
Okay. And if you are going to like research an author, obviously do it when you're done with the book.
But it will change how you reflect on the book. It's true.
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Thank you. You you you're welcome our next story some intergalactic news that we actually haven't uh shared an update on since the news updated um that i actually a bit that i thought you would find was funny but the astronauts are home the astronauts i all i know there's like a bunch of astronauts that were stuck up there there's two that were stuck because because the reunion video, I think that was where like part of the rescue from the other rocket.
Because like to me, the face of this whole saga was that woman. Yeah, yeah.
And it's funny when she comes down to Earth, like she looks different because her hair, like because of gravity. It's settled.
Yeah. But also I saw a picture, a video of her, like she hasn't walked for 10 months.
So she couldn't even get up. No, I know.
i saw like people were saying how in the past when people come back from space like they can't they don't know how to walk they drop everything because they're just used to like they're they forget about gravity yes and they faint a lot so it's actually going to be like like you know kind of a long journey for them to adjust back to earth but here's the jaw-dropping amount that the nasa astronauts butch wilmore and suny williams are likely to be paid after an eight-day mission that turned into right do you sue or like don't you get paid handsomely right are you getting paid per hour because at that point what was eight days is now 800 how many how many days is 10 months 300 365 300 yeah so so it's literally like 30 times what you were supposed to do yeah so nasa is now expected to compensate the astronauts for extended stay in space though an exact figure has not been released however a former nasa astronaut katie coleman uh said that astronauts only receive their basic salary without overtime benefits for incidentals a small amount amount they are legally obligated to pay you. She said, for me, it was around $4 a day.
She received approximately $636 in incidental pay for her 150-day mission between 2010 and 2011. $600? $600.
For these people, they're estimating they would get about like $90,000 all in.

It's not enough.

It's not enough.

Well, are they going to sue? Are they mad?

I don't know. I wasn't getting like mad vibes, but they should be big mad.

Well, the thing is, if I'm up there and the only people who can like get me back,

like I'm not going to start like, you know, doing televised interviews.

No, I'm going to be like, they're doing their best. Yeah.
and then I get back down on earth and it's scorched earth for these bitches so maybe now they'll get mad but you're right every time I like saw an interview they were like we're having fun look my pee floats like I think they also lost their minds oh one thousand percent and NASA needs to cover all like mental health expenses they need severe therapy yeah um and you know they fucking hate each other these two like they were supposed to be stuck in this thing for eight days and they're in this tiny little thing where they have to sleep on a mat for 10 months no this is hell but you don't think it's also maybe like an astronaut's dream like that you get stuck in space and i feel like they always they did always know that they could come back because SpaceX could always get them because SpaceX like runs trips to the space station all the time. It was just a matter of like NASA.
Politics. Yeah, politics.
Like because it's a NASA mission and you know, then they had to go and ask Elon to pick them up. Right.
I, if, I mean, I don't know if like like, this is something you just come to, like, expect it's part of, like, the lived astronaut experience, like, that this might happen. It does seem really out of the ordinary and really crazy and really, like, okay, maybe, they thought eight days, but we ended up spending two weeks.
Like, 10 months. Yeah.
I'm sorry. It's unacceptable.
And if I'm the families, maybe the astronauts themselves aren't mad. Astronauts' families are mad.
Yeah, because I think also- You stole my mom for 10 months. In order to be an astronaut, like you go through a lot of testing, like mental and physical.
You have to be a very even keel person that works well under pressure. Not someone who's just going to fly off the handle because things didn't go the way that they said that they were going to go.
So what you're saying is I couldn't be an astronaut. You cannot be an astronaut.
However, you're right in that their families don't go through that. Their families can be emotional.
So I hope both families sort of band together. They deserve a million dollars minimum each.
Yeah. Plus like the mental rehabilitation, the physical, the time lost with family.
I want them at the best psychological and physical rehabilitation centers in the country no cost yeah to them but so far the reunion and the rescue has been really positive as it when they landed in the water there was dolphins around the capsule i don't give a fuck like we it's all been joyous for sure you want revenge now of course there has been no anger and if that's me like i'm angry i know but they have the temperament of an astronaut they are the elk of astronauts whatever like the equivalent of like the tony busby lawyer is of the astronaut sphere they need the tony busby yeah but i could also see this becoming a movie where like you know it's jennifer lawrence and chris pratt and then they're stuck for 10 months and now they're fucking and then they have to go home to their families but they've fallen in love in space and so maybe they like go back to like this just like kennedy space center and they like go in a simulation where there's no gravity and they just to feel something recreate what they had i i that movie sounds amazing yeah i feel like it's not like based on a true story but it real events. Inspired by real events.
And we don't know that they didn't fall in love. We don't know what happened on that capsule.
Right. It is crazy that it was...
And I think they're both heterosexual. That it was a man and a woman, not two girls or two guys.
It's just like there is potential for love here. I have a Hallmark movie.
If I'm the wife back home, I'm pissed. Yeah pissed yeah and like are you concerned a little bit because at the end of the day you couldn't even blame them for falling in love what else do you do no what like they don't have netflix up there do they do i mean they have all the technology in the stratus you need wi-fi they're connected they're connected to they could talk back home like they have wi-fi yeah i think they have like a portable DVD player.
They definitely have Kindle. Well, no, maybe, maybe not because like Jeff Bezos.
Because of Blue Sky. Yeah.
They have like a Barnes and Noble Nook. They have like a Fire tablet.
E-reader. Yeah.
Plus they have Starlink Wi-Fi. Yeah.
But like, I'm sure the whole like zero gravity thing gets old really quickly. Like it's fun.
for 10 months yeah no they were just in that even in that video where they're like reuniting and everyone's like bouncing off the walls it's so crazy it is really crazy and i wonder like what would happen if you put your hair in a ponytail because her hair was like was loose the whole time but obviously it would be up like a right so i guess that does unless you did like a really slick back bun oh could it be defying gravity do you think i think there are buns so slick that they do defy i feel like there are products that are like anti-gravity mist yeah right right right from like a meka okay let's put it to the test spacex here we come so funny well i'm happy for them are home. Get your money.
Don't settle for anything less than a million. Don't take 90K.
Yeah, sick. Sick.
How about 90K per month? Then we're at a million. Are you ready for our next story that will lead into our TV recap of Summer House? Yes, I am.
Because our fifth and final story, like Craig and Paige are making news offline, off shows about their breakup. So first, the trailer for next week's Southern Charm, a little teaser, drop next week, or sorry, tonight's episode of Southern Charm is the finale.
So it's when we'll cut to winter. The future.
Craig goes to his buddies. She broke up with me.
I bought a ring. And he says that Paige broke up with him over the phone after a great Thanksgiving together so he tells Austin and Craig the story that pretty much we heard on watch what happens live from him that they had a great Thanksgiving at her parents house then like maybe one or two weeks later she called him like I think we need to break up he waited a few days to like see her in person in New York and then they like confirmed the breakup um and in those few days was that like Southern Char premiered and then by Christmas New Year's is when they told us so he's sharing that on Southern Charm tonight like I'm sat have to watch but then Paige shared a lot of details about their relationship on the Summer House after show with Amanda and Sierra she said that she tolerated too much in her relationship with Craig can I tell you as somebody who loved these two so much as a couple, everything I'm seeing now makes me so sad.
At the end of the day, though, the net positive is that this really wasn't the relationship that we all thought it was. And when we were breaking down, like, the day after they broke up, like, what? Oh, Charleston.
It was so much more than that. And these two people were actually, like, not right for each So that's like the only peace and solace that I have.
But to see it like get ugly really makes me sad because I liked them. I like them both individually so much.
But as a couple, like they really brought so much joy to the Bravo universe. And I think that both of their experiences like are their own.
And I feel like this week on Summer House, you could really see like they are speaking the same language but they are not understanding one another like Paige you know when when Craig is checking in on the status of their relationship and especially as it pertains to this big tour when they already don't spend so much time together because they're long distance you know he sees that as a check-in right she sees it as sort of like a like a doubting and and like making her big moment about him yeah and so while I think that they're both valid in how they receive that conversation like they really were not on the same page at all like they were never gonna they were never gonna get to like a middle ground place honestly yeah and maybe when they started dating they were like closer to the same page and then over the last three years they just moved further apart to where now they're just, even if someone's saying something with like a good fine intention, it's just totally like misconstrued based on how different they are at this point. Yeah.
So and I thought that was a great question that Andy asked Sierra and Amanda on Watch What Happens Live last night was like, oh, my God, did you guys know like Paige was so he said, like, checked out of the relationship because watching this week's episode, he said next week, it's even worse. Like, did you guys know at page was so he said like checked out of the relationship because watching this week's episode he said next week it's even worse like did you guys know at the time and they were like no watching it like we can see she clearly is but at the time we didn't know but so the fact that they broke up like between them probably wasn't shocking but it was to us do you know what i mean yeah and a few weeks ago on watch what happens live sierra had said that she wasn't shocked when when they broke up she's right yeah so maybe over the summer she didn't see like what she's? Yeah, and a few weeks ago on Watch What Happens Live, Ciara had said that she wasn't shocked when they broke up.

She's right.

Yeah, so maybe over the summer she didn't see what she's seeing now,

but by the winter she knew that Paige was having doubts and over it.

And another big thing from the after show that's making headlines

is that it's Paige, it's the girls,

and the question that gets asked to Amanda is,

do you think Kyle regrets anything he said on that episode of Watch What Happens Live about Craig and she was like he should regret some of the things that he says but he definitely doesn't and then Paige said I don't think he should regret it yeah now things for like a few weeks they both really like wanted to take the high road like relationships can end but we have like love and respect for each other and then after like the cheating allegations that like Craig refused to respond to get involved in now like things have turned nasty and now they're hearing what the other person has said about them on their show so then you just like then you want to get your side out so now she's sharing a lot in the after show of summer house she said that she was really blinded in her relationship she said I think I loved him so much that I tolerated too much and now that I'm out of it and I look back at things I'm like oh wait so she said that she was really blinded in her relationship. She said, I think I loved him so much that I tolerated too much.
And now that I'm out of it and I look back at things, I'm like, oh, wait. So she said anytime she had a personal or professional milestone, Craig would find a way to make it about him.
She said it was just embarrassing. So that's something that I look back on now and I'm like, oh, wow.
I was really very blinded. I had to do a lot of damage control.
She acknowledged that her tour for Giggly Squad also affected her relationship with Craig, who already thought that she worked too much. She said, when I started having a panic attacks this fall while I was doing Giggly Squad shows, he just thought it was because I was working too much.
So it played into his whole, well, you work too much and you shouldn't be doing all of this thing. She also said that Craig had once encouraged her to watch a documentary about Swedish pop group ABBA's journey with touring and how it, quote, ruined their marriages and their lives.
She said, I was like, I just got a beta blocker prescription, but thank you so much for the nightly TV watch. No, uh, give me some recommending somebody who's having a panic attack.
A documentary is such a crazy thing to do. I was actually laughing when I heard that.
Um, and this is what I mean. Like, this is what I was saying.
I don't think either of them were like ill intended in like, I I'm sure Craig thought he was being helpful when he said that, you know. But like when they're so, they really are so far off from one another in terms of like goals and the future.
And they've become even more further off that they're going to see the worst in what the other person does or says. Yeah, that's really what's happening.
Because I can like. Like he sees her diving into work as like a personal attack.
And she sees him like questioning her schedule as an attack on her accomplishments.

Like.

No.

And her diving into work.

Like for him it's like.

Well he's right to feel like.

But what.

Like are we going to get married?

Are we going to have kids?

Like those things can happen.

Like that's fair.

But then for her it's so fair to be like.

Of course I'm going to do these things.

This is my dream.

But also this is a huge moment for me.

Yeah.

No.

Like this is what I've been working for.

Like this is my dream.

How can you.

What do you mean?

You're my flags upside down.

Claudia.

When will you understand?

Thank you. You're not on this camera? No, because you're the one being so funny and on point.
Well, not maybe your mic flag wasn't upside down you when we interrupted but it's all good continue I don't I don't know what I'm saying one question that Andy asked Amanda on what's happened live that I thought was such a good point that I'd never thought about was about Hannah burner and he was like so have you never been to a giggly squad show she was like no that's weird i know but and i actually really appreciated her answer she's like i'm not even gonna ask like that's hannah's thing first of all it's half hannah um so my presence like would unnerve her and it's like her thing so i don't want to make her uncomfortable but also like it definitely puts page in a weird spot too because page is gonna be like hannah my friend amanda wants to come like it's but i thought it was so interesting that she hadn't been but then it's also weird that she's not like been there for page one time to support her show even though i know she supports her but like that's really weird i know and then andy asked like a bunch of follow-up questions about hannah and i find it really interesting how kyle and amanda talk about hannah now they're like it's very much they're the kim kardash and Hannah's the Taylor. They're like over it.
Like we wish her the best. Like she's crushing it.
Like she's so happy. And I'm sure if you asked Hannah, which she'd never gone watch happens live, but like if she was in the same spot, like I don't think she's looks back as rose colored glasses as they do.
Like that was really, I think a very, very hard traumatic time for her. Yeah.
But they're all like, well, we, you know, we wish her the best.

I'm just going to wish them the best.

Because it keeps coming up.

Like I really want to watch it.

Because I don't understand.

And I'm just like, why can't Hannah and Amanda make up?

Even if Hannah doesn't ever want to talk to Kyle again.

Yeah. Like they can't.

They can't.

Also, I thought that was interesting on Watchtrap and Slive.

Like a lot of the questions about Craig and any like shady answers, like, like, more so came from Sierra. Because, like, Amanda's really not in a position to be, like, critiquing relationships or, like, you know, partners and how supportive they are.
And I think that's actually very self-aware of her. She was not being, like, overtly critical of Craig.
Like, when she was like, oh, he was blinded by love. Like, her answers, I think, because if she started pointing fingers, that's,'s like not a game you want to play when your husband is Kyle.
No, and when you can see how the things that we see on TV might not be representative of the issues in your relationship for better or for worse. Like, of course, we see that conversation between Paige and Craig and we're like, oh, doomsday is coming.
But like if they hadn't broken up six months later and they were. No, they've had conversations like that over the last five years on summer house and now this time it's like oh well of course they broke up but in the past it's like they're working through their issues yeah so I think Amanda can understand how a conversation like that is on tv but we're working through our issues right right um in terms of the actual episode I thought it was a great episode I was cracking up.
Have you ever heard of putting like a birthday cake in the oven? No. To store? To store? To me, like I couldn't.
Because when they were cleaning up, they had this like birthday cake. Yeah.
It was from Magnolia Bakery. And I don't think there was space in the fridge.
And like, do you put a cake in the fridge? It's like half eaten. And Gabby was like, no, you put it in the oven.
With the oven off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But still, it doesn't need coldness because it has dairy. I don't know.
Like you wouldn't put milk in the oven. like you off yeah yeah yeah but still it doesn't store it in the oven coldness because it has dairy i don't know you wouldn't put milk in the oven like you wouldn't put milk on the counter even and if you're gonna put it in the oven why not just leave it on the counter the oven is like the counter like the elements i don't know the oven is warmer and you don't want your warm dairy i was like is that a thing people do with birthday cakes i don't think so makes no sense.
But let us know. I mean, it would be great to because like that's like a little second fridge, but that doesn't make sense because it's dairy.
Oh, one thing that bothered me on Watch What Happens Live and in reference to the episode, because there was that moment between Jesse and Sierra where he was like being flirty, your thighs turning me on, whatever. And then Andy was like, Sierra, would you ever like be interested in Jesse? And Amanda like yes yes yes and Sierra's like and it's like that's the type of behavior like you hated that Wes did you know like going through multiple girls in the house you hated when Austin did it I feel like if I'm Lexi I'm so annoyed at this whole thing and the fact that like that thing happened on the episode last night and Sierra did nothing wrong in the episode I thought she actually like he was being kind of weird and she behaved appropriately.
But like now on Watch Out and Side, like egging it on and being like, yeah, we ship. It's like, well, that's what we've been yelling at Wes for.
Like that you didn't like and now you're kind of participating in the same exact behavior. Yeah.
Yeah. And Jesse and Lexi are not together right now, right? I don't know.
I know nothing. a big mystery right but it really is jesse sierra thing like keeps continuing because next week it looks like they have a conversation about like why didn't we ever give it a shot right and he was like i let west just sort of like i don't know but i'm gonna give jesse the benefit of the doubt that like because like this week he really had his head aside from the leg and the humping like when he was in the gym he was saying all the right things i don't want my head turn like i'm my lexi i miss her i'm having fun with my boys but i miss her so maybe he can hold on to that for a few more hours at the party at the gym when he said that and then kyle was like yeah but if you don't have the exclusivity clause yet why don't you use this party while lexi's out of town to like meet and talk to some girls.
Has there ever been worse advice given to anybody? There's never been.

Especially from somebody who's married.

There's literally never been worse advice

because-

I was like,

I wanted to shake Jessie.

Like, don't do that.

That's not a way to get one more bang in.

That's a way to make sure

you and Lexi never become exclusive.

Some of the worst fucking advice,

I mean, not shocking,

the worst advice.

Also something funny

because it reminded me when Carl, so this is almost a year ago, he's talking about Softbar, which still hasn't launched. And then Andy on Watch Rapids Live was talking to Amanda about her swimsuits and was like, Amanda, I just want to congratulate you for being the first Bravo star in history to line up a product launch with the season airing.
You're talking about the swimsuits, and you can buy the swimsuits now. It's kind of brilliant.
And it was so funny. And then I actually felt like it was a direct dig at Softbar.
Yeah. Like they still don't have a bar.
Dig at Softbar. I think he's still mad at Austin Kroll for not getting Trap Hop off the ground after like seasons of promotion.
And like then at the reunion and he's like, so where can you buy it? And he's like, not yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's really funny. And then of course, Springgers she by shire of course of course yeah um okay so the episode uh they had this big pirate party that like carl's taking really seriously for some reason because he has this girl coming who seems really cute she does and and because lindsey's not there so it's like this is carl's bat mitzvah which makes it weirder.
Just be normal, you know? Like just go to a party.

And like it doesn't have to be so much pressure.

I know.

It's just Carl.

Everything Carl does.

I don't know if it's like these days post-Lindsey.

I don't necessarily always remember feeling this way about him.

But like everything he does is just like this pathetic aura to it.

But I think he also.

I think maybe like he's inherently like that.

But then he also like heaps it on.

Because I think he like wants us to forget.

Victim.

That he ended the engagement.

That Lindsay was going to marry him.

He's going to be. But then he also like heaps it on because I think he like wants us to forget that he ended the engagement that Lindsay was going to marry him.
He is the reason why they're not married and why she's not carrying his child. So, yes, I guess it's a good way to really want to be seen because otherwise he's the villain.
And I don't see him as a villain because of the way that he carries himself. Yes.
Sad sack. He wants to be seen as the victim the victim sad sex celibate haven't had sex in a year why you broke up with a girl no and he thinks it like helps him that like lindsey moved on so quickly and that she's pregnant because he's still here like i'm celibate right and literally acting like he got broken up with i don't think anybody is falling for it however it has helped in like neutralizing any strong opinions that i had like listen bro just go talk to your lemur girl okay no yeah he's so pathetic like that's the word and even when she like gave him a compliment and she was like you look like a lemur uh okay i'll go kill myself like it's like he's so lemurs i know i know and it's like even like the good things in his life like this girl compliment complimenting him, like they're sad.
No, and like is that girl going to stay at the house? That was a bad idea. Terrible.
When he said, are you staying here? I thought he meant like in the Hamptons. I should hope so.
What, you drive three hours for a party with a pirate ship? And then she's like, am I staying here? Maybe. Like it was just no.
That's no. Did you pack a bag? Do you have clean undies? No.
So, yeah, it was like a big moment for Carl for some reason, this party.

And what else happened?

I did not understand why Amanda and Sierra were dressed as birds.

Because like pirates have birds with them, like a parrot.

Right.

So when they took the picture and Sierra had, I mean, Paige had both of them on her arms.

I then understood the parrot. But Sierra was dressed as a seagull.
Maybe she was like a dove. No, I think she said I'm a seagull.
Well, I think they could also have seagulls. Maybe it's not only parrots.
No, I think it is. Like, that's the shtick.
That's like one person's shtick, maybe from like Pirates of thebean right right let me see pirate birds um oh also i feel like now because they're broken up and we know that like amanda i mean um page is like very much team lover boy it's not surprising but when you're watching the episode just like for where they are in their relationship it's like very clear that Craig, Paige is mad at Craig for like getting into this fight with Kyle. And she's like annoyed that that they're here because of him.
Like she's not on his side, which now makes sense. But at the time, it's like, well, that's your man, you know? Yeah.
And she's like, it's interesting how the primary feeling she's feeling is like annoyed at him. I know.
But it's also like the issue, I think, regardless of like our personal state. It's so hard, we have to take ourselves out of it.
But actually when I'm watching this, they blur out the words, like I actually don't feel like attached to it in the moment. So the issue is that like Kyle has completely co-opted the show with Loverboy.
And why can't, seriously, why can't anyone on the cast, let alone a castmate's boyfriend, do anything with any other alcohol or canned cocktail company.

Like, that's not right.

So even though it's very inconvenient for Paige that Craig went and did this,

and it's going to cause a bragus with Kyle and Amanda,

and that's very inconvenient,

and we don't want to fight with our friends,

they're wrong for asserting that it has to be this way

and only this way, and nobody else, whether they're cast members or not can do something with another brand like what you're not paying people no at its core and that's what's so interesting you know jesse solomon did like a big truly ad the other day i i feel like at some point kyle has to like just start to act no i feel like kyle literally i think kyle facilitated the deal to be like I didn't get Hata fired for doing something with Truly. I love Truly and White Claw.
Like I feel like he's now, because that's what's being said about Kyle and that's what bothers him so much. That's why he was texting Paige.
I didn't get Hata fired because she didn't add with another drink company. It's like this thing that people know about Kyle and it bothers him that people know it.
So I feel like he told Jessie to do it. So why would he behave the same way with Spritz? Say that again? Why would he behave the same way about Spritz? Like why would he pretend to be cool with it at the time he didn't feel that way at the time like the truly thing happened and then the spritz thing happened and then after the spritz thing happened everybody brought up the hannah truly thing again so it became this like big narrative about kyle and now he's trying to and a pattern like it's not a pattern so now i think he's trying to i wouldn't be surprised if he went to truly and said my friend friend Jesse needs a deal.
Like just to counteract the narrative about him. Got it.
Got it. Like I'm sure Jesse did that with complete approval.
Yeah. That's really interesting.
But yeah, I just think it's crazy that there's this expectation of exclusivity for literally everyone in their orbit and only they're allowed to make money on canned cocktails and no one else can work in this huge space. And Craig was funny in the car about Kendall and Kyle.
Such a random example. But so true.
Yeah. It was a random example, but it was hilarious.
He's so funny. He's so funny.
And then I thought that we were going to get like the Craig versus Kyle fight last night, but it's next week. So.
Yeah. And I think it was fair that like Craig didn't want to have the fight the first night.
No. Also, the vibe that I was getting was that if they were going to talk about it, they were going to talk about it right there at the table with everybody around, which is really not productive.
Yeah. And that's not like an in the weeds conversation.
It's just like, man, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Like, yeah, he has ish. Well, that's what Kyle thinks.
Kyle thinks it's just going to be like, bro, I didn't mean to bro.

I'm sorry.

And Craig is actually like a very emotional person.

Um,

and so I think,

you know,

us having this conversation after a long day in the middle of the table with

everybody,

there's no room for nuance.

And I think Craig has a lot more to say than I think Kyle's expecting.

Yeah.

I agree.

So Southern charm recap from Jackie.

Oh my gosh. I have to watch.
I'm so excited. And you didn't recap last week.
So Southern Charm recap from Jackie O. Oh my gosh, I have to watch.
I'm so excited. Yeah, and you didn't recap last week, so.
I didn't. And something crazy happened that I just wanted to mention.
Oh, Vanita and JT, the girls are fighting. Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I saw Vanita making a lot of news. Oh, like Venmo and the $5,000? Yes, $5,000.
Okay, because like Vanita has actually been vindicated because I told this to Ben, but I need to tell it to you because remember when jt said like i don't want to date you i have a girlfriend yeah then they went to the bahamas and he's like crying because he's fighting with everyone and she goes up to his room and she's like putting the moves on him and he's like says in his confessional how she's like throwing herself at him and it's really hard to say nobody has a girlfriend and she's like i want jt i love jt me and jt it's really crazy and then she posted in her Instagram story the conversation where he told her that he has a girlfriend happened after the Bahamas and they aired it before the Bahamas and made her look really stupid wait that's like really evil yeah really evil so I was glad that she cleared her name and I was like okay we can't like trust everything but we know that it's tv but like okay Vanita like isn't hasn't lost her damn mind wait i feel so bad for her that's so embarrassing but she really cleared her name and like people we had moved on from it and so jt like there was this like the thing with the barber oh my god it was like so crazy remember when i told you that someone's goes to the same barber as jt and then the barber um told i told you in the preview for next week someone goes to the same barber as jt a random guy named r I don't even know who he is why he's on the show but he said that JT said to the barber something and then he told it to Levin we're like waiting to see what it was and it was really crazy he said that the barber said that JT said was talking about the show in the season and that like some black girl keeps coming on to me oh yeah and JT is flipping when Levin tells of this and like Leva and Vanita hear this and they're like that's not JT like we know him he doesn't talk like that he's a good person right is the person that we know like not the barber make it up so JT calls the barber on the spot he was like did I say this and the barber was like no but I was saying to write he was like that might have been the way that i said it retold it told it but that's not how you said it but it was like it was literally five minutes where it just goes from like all the way up to like oh it's nothing all the way down jt did not say he's like not he like that totally vindicated but i i feel like he's gonna quit the show and everyone says that he's gonna quit the show and that might have been something and anyways then something happened where vanita said like oh really you weren't spending five thousand dollars on me take me out when i'm not your girlfriend she said something like that on her instagram and then he was like no you paid for my suit because i was using a cane i left my credit card in the car and i paid you back and like here's the exact amount dollars and cents like she made it seem like he was like whining and dining her and like paying her oh that's bad yeah bad look but i'm gonna hold space for the next truth because that's what keeps happening where it's like wait that looks crazy even with the jt thing i'm like what how can he come out how can this not be true what ryan's liar why would ryan lie and they say ryan's husband is black why would he just make this up right it was just like a bad game of telephone yikes yeah poor. Poor Vanita.
And she's like in her bed.

She's like waiting to hear the truth.

Like is my friend a horrible.

Like I felt so bad for her.

He felt so bad for her.

It was just like a really bad moment.

And for nothing.

Yikes.

Because it didn't happen.

Well I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying the season of Southern Charm through your

eyes.

You know.

So I'll let you know what happens at the finale party.

Molly is going to kiss Shep.

Though it doesn't look so romantic.

Craig will give us the update on the breakup.

Even though I don't think anything we're going to see tonight is something we don't

know already.

I feel like they've really teased everything yeah well that's our show you guys and I'll offy thank you so much for listening to the Toast of the Millennium Morning Show we deliver the fast stories you need to know every Monday the Friday on YouTube if you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give us a thumbs up for all the videos of the podcast and as a podcast. And we're podcasting.
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